Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
At 07:55 AM 9/5/2006, F5vjc wrote: On the subject of Anderson powerpoles, the only ones I see on Ebay are 45A are these compatible with the lower power ones too? YES... the CONTACTs on all three sizes (15A, 30A, 45A) are all the SAME SIZE... only the size of the wire insertion area is different. The 15A contacts accept up to #14 wire, 30A, up to #10 (I think, possibly only up to #12), and 45A > #12 73, Tom N0SS 73 F5VJC On 9/4/06, Vin Cortina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone. To all who responded to my original query, thank you for the good advice. I purchased 20 pair (red and black) of the 30 amp version (1330) Anderson Power Pole, and have already begun converting all of my DC connections to the A.P.P. system. I am soldering them, and it works beautifully. They are truly worth the cost, and (c'mon now, say it with me) I can't imagine how I ever did without them. Thanks again. Vin KR2F K1-4 s/n:1977 KX1 s/n:1476 - Original Message ----- Subject: RE: [Elecraft] what DC connectors? Vin, KR2F asked: Can I get a sampling of exactly how you connect your portable rigs, ... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
Not sure if the 45 A version is mechanically compatible with the 30A. Check here and look at the spec pages. http://www.andersonpower.com/products/pp/pp.html Good luck, Vin KR2F K1-4 s/n:1977 KX1 s/n:1476 - Original Message - From: "F5vjc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vin Cortina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors? On the subject of Anderson powerpoles, the only ones I see on Ebay are 45A are these compatible with the lower power ones too? 73 F5VJC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
On the subject of Anderson powerpoles, the only ones I see on Ebay are 45A are these compatible with the lower power ones too? 73 F5VJC On 9/4/06, Vin Cortina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone. To all who responded to my original query, thank you for the good advice. I purchased 20 pair (red and black) of the 30 amp version (1330) Anderson Power Pole, and have already begun converting all of my DC connections to the A.P.P. system. I am soldering them, and it works beautifully. They are truly worth the cost, and (c'mon now, say it with me) I can't imagine how I ever did without them. Thanks again. Vin KR2F K1-4 s/n:1977 KX1 s/n:1476 - Original Message ----- Subject: RE: [Elecraft] what DC connectors? Vin, KR2F asked: Can I get a sampling of exactly how you connect your portable rigs, ... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
Hi everyone. To all who responded to my original query, thank you for the good advice. I purchased 20 pair (red and black) of the 30 amp version (1330) Anderson Power Pole, and have already begun converting all of my DC connections to the A.P.P. system. I am soldering them, and it works beautifully. They are truly worth the cost, and (c'mon now, say it with me) I can't imagine how I ever did without them. Thanks again. Vin KR2F K1-4 s/n:1977 KX1 s/n:1476 - Original Message - Subject: RE: [Elecraft] what DC connectors? Vin, KR2F asked: Can I get a sampling of exactly how you connect your portable rigs, ... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
Randy NV0U wrote: You just need a pair of crimpers that have a little dimple in them. See: http://home.comcast.net/~buck0/app.htm and look at suggestion #2. I am sorry but the crimper you are showing will NOT work at all well! It is exactly like the $10.00 Crimper on the web page and neither work worth a flip. If your not going to solder the wire to the connector, buy the $50.00 crimper. As it turns out you MUST solder if you use a cheap crimper. 73 Karl K5DI Those will work perfectly. Order a bunch of these things - they are great connectors and I am sure you will end up using them all. I thought that having 20 pairs would be good enough when I started... ha! Randy NV0U On 8/26/06, Vin Cortina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone. Can I get a sampling of exactly how you connect your portable rigs, etc to your batteries? I know about Anderson Power Poles, but I am wondering if I need a special crimping tool for them. Plus, I am getting weary of ordering a small quantity of something, and paying upwards of 50% more of the original purchase price on shipping. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
Thanks to Leigh, Ron, Randy and Craig for their speedy, and much appreciated input. I have ordered 20 of the 30 amp variety. I will figure out how to connect the wires to the connectors when they get here :) Vin KR2F K1-4 s/n:1977 KX1 s/n:1476 - Original Message - From: "Leigh L Klotz, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vin Cortina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors? Vin, I would recommend a bag of 50 PowerPoles to start. The West Mountain crimper makes a big difference. You might be able to get a bag of them at a hamfest or club meeting and avoid shipping charges. Or, buy a bag and set up yourself at the next club meeting. To convert gradually, you can take your existing radio's power cable and cut it, put PowerPoles on both ends, and have a ready adapter. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:32 am, Vin Cortina wrote: Hi everyone. Can I get a sampling of exactly how you connect your portable rigs, etc to your batteries? I know about Anderson Power Poles, but I am wondering if I need a special crimping tool for them. Plus, I am getting weary of ordering a small quantity of something, and paying upwards of 50% more of the original purchase price on shipping. Ideas? Vin KR2F K1-4 s/n:1977 KX1 s/n:1476 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
Vin, I would recommend a bag of 50 PowerPoles to start. The West Mountain crimper makes a big difference. You might be able to get a bag of them at a hamfest or club meeting and avoid shipping charges. Or, buy a bag and set up yourself at the next club meeting. To convert gradually, you can take your existing radio's power cable and cut it, put PowerPoles on both ends, and have a ready adapter. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:32 am, Vin Cortina wrote: Hi everyone. Can I get a sampling of exactly how you connect your portable rigs, etc to your batteries? I know about Anderson Power Poles, but I am wondering if I need a special crimping tool for them. Plus, I am getting weary of ordering a small quantity of something, and paying upwards of 50% more of the original purchase price on shipping. Ideas? Vin KR2F K1-4 s/n:1977 KX1 s/n:1476 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
Vin, KR2F asked: Can I get a sampling of exactly how you connect your portable rigs, etc to your batteries? I know about Anderson Power Poles, but I am wondering if I need a special crimping tool for them. Plus, I am getting weary of ordering a small quantity of something, and paying upwards of 50% more of the original purchase price on shipping. Ideas? - The crimp tool issue is going to be, in part, personal preference. However, I do not like to use crimp connections anywhere I can avoid it. A "crimp" is, in theory, as good as solder if it's done exactly right. Done right, the two surfaces are brought together under such pressure that there is excellent metal-to-metal contact over the entire area with so much force that the atoms actually collide over a large area, excluding all air or opportunity for corrosion. In short, it's *almost* a solder connection without the solder. The problem is that unless you achieve the perfect "crimp", there will be voids that reduce the surface contact, leading to increased resistance. Also air can enter and the oxygen will start oxidation that further increases the resistance, especially in the presence of heat caused by the current flow across the crimp. Soldering is so simple and so easy to do that I solder instead of crimp for any connection that I want to remain a good connection over time. I note that Elecraft also recommends soldering Anderson connectors instead of crimping them. And, yes, I've never grown any fondness for twist-on or crimp-type coaxial connectors either . At the other extreme, I'll happily use alligator clips for temporary connections: RF or DC. After all, it's obvious if they aren't making good contact. For DC supplies, voltages droop under load. Of course, you want to use the right size clip. For high-current DC use the large size intended for high currents. But for most portable operation at QRP levels, I find the standard size alligator clips FB. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
You just need a pair of crimpers that have a little dimple in them. See: http://home.comcast.net/~buck0/app.htm and look at suggestion #2. Those will work perfectly. Order a bunch of these things - they are great connectors and I am sure you will end up using them all. I thought that having 20 pairs would be good enough when I started... ha! Randy NV0U On 8/26/06, Vin Cortina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone. Can I get a sampling of exactly how you connect your portable rigs, etc to your batteries? I know about Anderson Power Poles, but I am wondering if I need a special crimping tool for them. Plus, I am getting weary of ordering a small quantity of something, and paying upwards of 50% more of the original purchase price on shipping. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] what DC connectors?
Vin ... Yes, PowerPoles are by far the most common way to go. I've been very pleased with them and put them on most all my DC (and even some antenna) wires. The crimping tool is expensive ($45 to $50). I bought one 6 months ago and it is one of my best purchases ever. Swallow hard and pony up the $50. Yes, it is possible to do without by using less expensive crimpers or solder, but if you expect to install more than 5 PowerPole connectors per year I'd strongly recommend the proper tool from West Mountain Radio. 73 ... Craig AC0DS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com