Re: [Elecraft] List

[Ken Kopp]

John,

Now there's an item I haven't heard in decades!

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP

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[Rick Prather]

Well said Al,

It seems to me that the list gets especially weird when the bands are bad!

At any rate, a lot of the problems would be solved if people would follow
your advice to wait overnight and also, as part of that process, re-read
the OP and be sure you understand the question.

Rick
K6LE


On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Al Lorona  wrote:

> There's a lot of tension on the list right now. Can we all just step back
> for a second?
>
>
> This list, at times, can be downright infuriating to those of us who ask a
> question in good faith, only to have the thread go off the rails in a
> matter of minutes. I've been victimized countless times. When it happens I
> say to myself, "Well, there goes any hope of getting an answer to my
> question."
>
> This list is no different than any list -- you have your Curmudgeons, your
> Know-it-Alls, the Complainers, the Alligators, etc., etc.-- and this tends
> to make people gun-shy or at least very tentative about posting. I can't
> blame them.
>
> Maybe we need to view each post primarily as a *request for help with a
> specific problem*, and not really  as an invitation to expound, discuss,
> and bloviate. Simply this: Let's make sure the Original Poster always gets
> our best in the most direct and expedient manner.
>
> There are a handful of guys who regularly stick to this rule and my hat's
> off to them for the dozens of times they've patiently come through for me.
> I stick around here mainly to pay back by helping others when I can.
>
> Replying off-list is fine. Certainly we're not losing any learning
> opportunities if we choose to do this for the common questions ("What's the
> best pair of gym shoes to wear while using my K3?") and I've had some of my
> best technical exchanges off-list, which I'm sure is true of a lot of us.
>
> If you don't get a satisfactory answer here probably the best thing is to
> then go contact Elecraft support privately. Ultimately, this list doesn't
> replace Support.
>
>
> One more thing, and this is directed to the Original Posters out there:
> There is nothing in the Elecraft list guidelines that says you *must* post
> the resolution of a problem to the list, but common courtesy probably
> dictates that you do so. A single wrap-up message by the original poster
> would seem sufficient: "My problem was caused by two mourning doves that
> nested in my balun enclosure."
>
> I was left hanging in the past month by two baffling but fascinating
> problems that I fear we'll never understand... Whatever happened to that K3
> that was hearing broadcast stations by E.S.P.? Was that Wayne's new psychic
> firmware??
>
> Self-moderation is definitely part of the solution. Here are two
> guidelines that if followed diligently could benefit us all:
>
>
> 1. If your response contains the sentiments, "Me too," or, "Why do you
> want to do that?" it probably isn't worth sending. Or maybe should be sent
> off-list.
>
> 2. Delay all responses overnight. If the next morning your response still
> seems needed, go ahead and send it.
>
> Finally I would like to add that, if there's a thread not to your liking,
> kindly spend the few seconds deleting it rather than adding yet another
> post to an already long thread complaining that the thread is getting too
> long or too off-topic. It's kinda like yelling, "Quiet!" in a noisy
> theater-- it doesn't accomplish anything, and it just makes the problem
> worse.
>
> This is all personal opinion and I welcome Elecraft telling me I'm full of
> beans as they see fit. I'll even post a resolution message reporting how
> many people told me, off-list, to go take a flying leap of a galloping
> goose.
>
>
> Al  W6LX
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Re: [Elecraft] list

[stan levandowski]

Those of us with KX3s are having so much fun operating that we don't 
have time for emails.

73, Stan WB2LQF

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 05:53 PM, bs usb wrote:


I see a lot of traffic about the K3 and very little regarding the KX3.

I am wondering why that is.

Is the KX3 just that much more problem free or is the K3 that much 
more popular?


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Re: [Elecraft] list

[Bob]

Elecraft is always providing some improvement to their radios.  For a long
time much of the "action" was with the KX3.  A few months back you would
have made the opposite conclusion.  Recently lots of changes have been
going on with the K3, so much of the traffic is related to that.

The KX3 is WILDLY popular and is a fantastic radio.  So is the K3.

73, Bob, WB4SON


On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 5:07 PM, stan levandowski 
wrote:

> Those of us with KX3s are having so much fun operating that we don't have
> time for emails.
> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 05:53 PM, bs usb wrote:
>
>  I see a lot of traffic about the K3 and very little regarding the KX3.
>>
>> I am wondering why that is.
>>
>> Is the KX3 just that much more problem free or is the K3 that much more
>> popular?
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] list

[Walter Underwood]

The K3 is more complicated and has more options. The KX3 has four internal 
options — charger/clock, ATU, roofing filters, and 2m module. The K3 has far 
more than that. Also, the K3 is commonly used in complex base stations, with 
multiple antennas, external power amplifiers, and so on.

So, more discussion about the K3 is normal.

At this point, I think Elecraft has sold about the same number of K3’s and 
KX3’s.

Finally, it is common practice on this list to sign e-mails with your call sign.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
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On Mar 15, 2015, at 2:53 PM, bs usb  wrote:

> I am a new comer to the list.
> 
> I have been mostly reading the mail for about four weeks.
> 
> I see a lot of traffic about the K3 and very little regarding the KX3.
> 
> I am wondering why that is.
> 
> Is the KX3 just that much more problem free or is the K3 that much more 
> popular?

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Re: [Elecraft] list

[Fred Jensen]

On 3/15/2015 2:53 PM, bs usb wrote:


I see a lot of traffic about the K3 and very little regarding the
KX3.


Patience, just wait.


I am wondering why that is.

Is the KX3 just that much more problem free or is the K3 that much
more popular?


Neither.  Elecraft has an impressive portfolio of products.  New 
firmware for the KX3 will increase the mass of KX3 postings.  New 
firmware for the K3 will likewise increase the mass of K3 postings.  In 
the last month, they have announced a new super-low noise synthesizer 
for the K3, that's probably what you're seeing, it has been "all K3, all 
the time" recently.  The K2 is a mature transceiver.  Occasionally, 
someone will have a problem or a question and for a short period, the K2 
may dominate the list.  Likewise with the K1 ... we recently had a 
flurry of activity over the current and future unavailability of 4-band 
modules for it.


Sometimes the list will be tilted to some particular ham usage or 
technique, such as diversity reception or EME or various digital modes, 
and not so much toward a specific product.


It is very helpful if, when posting about a specific product, you put 
that product's ID in the subject line.  Many people on the list filter 
their email into separate folders since they may not care about some 
products.  It is also customary to end your post with name or nickname 
and call sign, if you have one.  Mine end with a shameless plug for the 
Cal QSO Party.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org


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Re: [Elecraft] list

[Bill Gerth]

There is also a KX3-specific Yahoo group that you might want to check out.
73,

BILL GERTH, W4RK
Jefferson City, MO
First Licensed 1954
CWOPS #459
4 States QRP Group
KX3 (S/N 112)

On Mar 15, 2015, at 4:53 PM, bs usb  wrote:

> I am a new comer to the list.
> 
> I have been mostly reading the mail for about four weeks.
> 
> I see a lot of traffic about the K3 and very little regarding the KX3.
> 
> I am wondering why that is.
> 
> Is the KX3 just that much more problem free or is the K3 that much more 
> popular?
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Re: [Elecraft] list

[Bill Blomgren (kk4qdz) via Elecraft]

Walter: you forgot the really fun option for the KX3  -- the tuner.. which 
makes my downspouts into excellent dummy loads.
 KK4QDZ - Now with Extra Class Priv's, and a tiny KX3 to enjoy them!
  From: Walter Underwood 
 To: elecraft  
 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 5:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] list
   
The K3 is more complicated and has more options. The KX3 has four internal 
options — charger/clock, ATU, roofing filters, and 2m module. The K3 has far 
more than that. Also, the K3 is commonly used in complex base stations, with 
multiple antennas, external power amplifiers, and so on.

So, more discussion about the K3 is normal.

At this point, I think Elecraft has sold about the same number of K3’s and 
KX3’s.

Finally, it is common practice on this list to sign e-mails with your call sign.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)



On Mar 15, 2015, at 2:53 PM, bs usb  wrote:

> I am a new comer to the list.
> 
> I have been mostly reading the mail for about four weeks.
> 
> I see a lot of traffic about the K3 and very little regarding the KX3.
> 
> I am wondering why that is.
> 
> Is the KX3 just that much more problem free or is the K3 that much more 
> popular?

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Re: [Elecraft] list

[Tony Martin W4FOA]

Thanks to K3WWP's webpage, here are at least some of the most popular QRP 
frequencies:

http://home.alltel.net/johnshan/qrp_ss_freqs.html
72
Tony, W4FOA
K2# 2213


- Original Message - 
From: "earl baillley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] list


Is there a published list of qrp CW freeks for the various bands. If a 
window would appeciate that too.Not into contests, just love o chat.


73

Earl W7TK
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Re: [Elecraft] List working?

[Mike]

Hm...

That came thru.

On 5/22/2011 4:53 PM, Mike wrote:
> I have gotten no posts from the list today. Is it me or the list that's 
> broken?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] List working?

[Fred Jensen]

Trust me Mike, "the list IS working :-)"  71 when I came in this afternoon.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
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On 5/22/2011 1:53 PM, Mike wrote:
> I have gotten no posts from the list today. Is it me or the list
> that's broken?
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
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Re: [Elecraft] List Overload

[Don Wilhelm]

Ted and all,

I am in agreement with you.  There is benefit in many OT conversations, 
and thankfully Eric allows it.  We learn many things about ham radio in 
general as well as how it applies to Elecraft radios (even if it is only 
about operating/conditions at the time).  There are many OT discussions 
about things related to the hamshack in general including "I have 
RF-in-the-shack" that relate to our use of Elecraft gear.

Discussions of that nature are for the edification of all Elecraft users.

The problem is that there are many "me too" responses, or the 
conversation becomes opinionated or personal.


We can all learn a bit from those OT discussions, but be cautious not to 
overdo it else Eric will shut it down.


If the discussion turns to specifics of one or two persons, take it 
off-list.  Or if the subject is not of interest to the general ham 
community, take it off-list.


The list rules allows individuals to offer "for sale" equipment, but 
those offering commercial services are limited to once a month.  I think 
that is adequate to "get the word out" without disrupting the list.


If you have read this far, I would encourage you to add "OT" to the 
subject line if you make a post that is really off-topic - even if you 
are replying to another post.


73,
Don W3FPR

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/28/2017 3:36 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:


 --
  I believe both kinds of views are valid, this coming from a confessed but 
unabashed occasional OT-committer.  For some the reflector is a source of 
technical information and exchange about Elecraft products.  Period.  Nothing 
wrong with that.  For others – like me – it’s a conversation place for people 
with a core common interest who eventually come to know each other, some of 
whom they’ve met personally, some of whom they’ve corresponded with off-list, 
some of whom are only in the willing or unwilling audience.  I like to think of 
it as the e-mail equivalent of an OTA net among people who get together now and 
then.  If that view is also valid, which I believe it is, then there ought to 
be some license for OT conversation among friends – within reason and not too 
far from the core common ground.  In addition, if we were absolutely strict 
about the Elecraft-only technical limit, there would be no room for talk of 
antennas, baluns (or chokes as the case may be), lightning protection, 
propagation, power supplies, batteries other than those in Elecraft gear, or a 
google of other useful and instructional topics.  As a participant I try to 
keep my OT departures brief, infrequent, and close to the core, with follow-up 
off list if anyone wants to do that.  I would miss a great deal of the 
camaraderie intrinsic to amateur radio if we couldn’t occasionally draw outside 
the lines.  Something like telling off-color jokes during the monthly poker 
game.


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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Yes, or rather Wayne is maintaining a operating Tip page on Ecraft site and
zerobeat has LOTS of info, including error message tips and FAQ etc at
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page


On 18/1/08 07:22, "David Cutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be invaluable
> for us all.
> 
> David
> G3UNA
> 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
> 
> 
>>  What ever you do, don't press the SPLT button to go into split  mode when
>> you have the condition you described because if you do, you will screw up
>> the band sequence when you step through the bands.  At one point I had 3
>> 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the bands.  Until Wayne
>> gets it fixed, be careful to not have different bands in VFO A and B.
>> 
>> John[K7SVV]
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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

I'll ask for a 'DontDoThis' page on the wiki and start if with that
If anyone has and good (bad?) don't do this's, let me have them please.


On 18/1/08 10:36, "David Cutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> Both good sources, but a list of  "don't do this..."  as advised by John
> [K7SVV] might save a lot of headaches.  It would be an impossible task to
> make such a list from scratch, but if operators find things out the hard
> way, it might also lead to software changes.
> 
> David
> G3UNA
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "David Cutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Crafters"
> 
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List of tips
> 
> 
>> Yes, or rather Wayne is maintaining a operating Tip page on Ecraft site
>> and
>> zerobeat has LOTS of info, including error message tips and FAQ etc at
>> http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
>> 
>> 
>> On 18/1/08 07:22, "David Cutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>> 
>>> I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be
>>> invaluable
>>> for us all.
>>> 
>>> David
>>> G3UNA
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  What ever you do, don't press the SPLT button to go into split  mode
>>>> when
>>>> you have the condition you described because if you do, you will screw
>>>> up
>>>> the band sequence when you step through the bands.  At one point I had 3
>>>> 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the bands.  Until
>>>> Wayne
>>>> gets it fixed, be careful to not have different bands in VFO A and B.
>>>> 
>>>> John[K7SVV]
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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[David Cutter]

Both good sources, but a list of  "don't do this..."  as advised by John 
[K7SVV] might save a lot of headaches.  It would be an impossible task to 
make such a list from scratch, but if operators find things out the hard 
way, it might also lead to software changes.


David
G3UNA

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To: "David Cutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Crafters" 


Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List of tips


Yes, or rather Wayne is maintaining a operating Tip page on Ecraft site 
and

zerobeat has LOTS of info, including error message tips and FAQ etc at
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page


On 18/1/08 07:22, "David Cutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be 
invaluable

for us all.

David
G3UNA

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior


 What ever you do, don't press the SPLT button to go into split  mode 
when
you have the condition you described because if you do, you will screw 
up

the band sequence when you step through the bands.  At one point I had 3
80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the bands.  Until 
Wayne

gets it fixed, be careful to not have different bands in VFO A and B.

John[K7SVV] 


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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[G4ILO]

David Cutter wrote:
> 
> I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be invaluable 
> for us all.
> 
Preferably in a form that can be printed out and stuck on the wall. I've
already hit several "issues" that were known faults. Trouble is, I'm getting
to the stage where I can't remember something I was told five minutes ago,
never mind what I may have read a week or more back. :(

-
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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Hows this?
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/DontDoThis

On 18/1/08 09:56, "G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
> David Cutter wrote:
>> 
>> I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be invaluable
>> for us all.
>> 
> Preferably in a form that can be printed out and stuck on the wall. I've
> already hit several "issues" that were known faults. Trouble is, I'm getting
> to the stage where I can't remember something I was told five minutes ago,
> never mind what I may have read a week or more back. :(

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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Since I've started it, I'll undertake to identify old entries that are no
longer valid as soon as I'm made aware of that.


On 18/1/08 13:47, "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> As long as that list is purged when every firmware upgrade comes out, I
> would agree.  Usually such lists are never updated and it becomes a
> 'worry list' left there to confuse new owners long after the problem has
> been fixed.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> David Cutter wrote:
>> Both good sources, but a list of  "don't do this..."  as advised by
>> John [K7SVV] might save a lot of headaches.  It would be an impossible
>> task to make such a list from scratch, but if operators find things
>> out the hard way, it might also lead to software changes.
>> 
>> David
>> G3UNA
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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[Don Wilhelm]

As long as that list is purged when every firmware upgrade comes out, I 
would agree.  Usually such lists are never updated and it becomes a 
'worry list' left there to confuse new owners long after the problem has 
been fixed.


73,
Don W3FPR

David Cutter wrote:
Both good sources, but a list of  "don't do this..."  as advised by 
John [K7SVV] might save a lot of headaches.  It would be an impossible 
task to make such a list from scratch, but if operators find things 
out the hard way, it might also lead to software changes.


David
G3UNA


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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[Thom LaCosta]

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Don Wilhelm wrote:

As long as that list is purged when every firmware upgrade comes out, I would 
agree.  Usually such lists are never updated and it becomes a 'worry list' 
left there to confuse new owners long after the problem has been fixed.


And that's exactly why the folks involved ask for the input, cooperation and 
participation of folks who have current information.


With out that, there will always be critical comments, and sometimes by the very 
folks who could have been part of the solution.


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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[Don Wilhelm]

Thom,

It is unrealistic to expect those who are busy paying attention to the 
progress of fixes to monitor every list of 'problems' that might be put 
into public places on the internet.  IMHO, those who want to create and 
publish such lists have a responsibility to take on the task of 
monitoring for fixes and keeping the list current - they must not depend 
on others to tell them when the list content is out of date.   There are 
many similar out-of-date lists in cyberspace for many products, and I am 
certain I have only encountered a few of them - when I find 
mis-information in a list like that, I tend to ignore the entire list 
because I know it contains errors and is therefore invalid.


73,
Don W3FPR

Thom LaCosta wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Don Wilhelm wrote:

As long as that list is purged when every firmware upgrade comes out, 
I would agree.  Usually such lists are never updated and it becomes a 
'worry list' left there to confuse new owners long after the problem 
has been fixed.


And that's exactly why the folks involved ask for the input, 
cooperation and participation of folks who have current information.


With out that, there will always be critical comments, and sometimes 
by the very folks who could have been part of the solution.


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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips

[Thom LaCosta]

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Don Wilhelm wrote:


Thom,
encountered a few of them - when I find mis-information in a list like that, 
I tend to ignore the entire list because I know it contains errors and is 
therefore invalid.


Yep...as I said, some folks are part of the solution, others are not.

It's very easy to be critical of an effort by folks who are simply trying to 
offer a service that the "official" folks don't.


Using your logic, one could also ignore many of the mailing lists on the 
internet, since they too contain inaccurate information.


And of course there are the statements by official sources that are also 
inaccurate.


So, there's tons of stuff that we can simply ignore.

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Re: [Elecraft] List complaints - solution

[Bill W5WVO]

This is a solution (and discipline) that I've seen officially instituted on 
other high-volume mailing lists. If everybody adopts the discipline, it works 
exceedingly well. Even if just MOST everybody does it, it works... pretty 
good! Let's try to do it for the sake of those others on the list, like Dave, 
who would appreciate it.


Bill / W5WVO


David Wilburn wrote:

For those frustrated with the list, I just did a filter that put every
email that had K3 in the subject in another folder called K3.  If
those posting K3 questions, make sure and put K3 in the subject, then
all is well.

Best of luck. 



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Re: [Elecraft] List complaints - solution

[Thom LaCosta]

On Wed, 16 May 2007, Bill W5WVO wrote:

This is a solution (and discipline) that I've seen officially instituted on 
other high-volume mailing lists. If everybody adopts the discipline, it works 
exceedingly well. Even if just MOST everybody does it, it works... pretty 
good! Let's try to do it for the sake of those others on the list, like Dave, 
who would appreciate it.


Taking it to the next level, subject Preamble words could be:


K1
KX1
K2
OT
T1
XV

Based on ones interest, the filtering could be set for accept or reject.

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Re: [Elecraft] List complaints - solution

[David Wilburn]

I like it, great stuff Thom!

David Wilburn
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Thom LaCosta wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2007, Bill W5WVO wrote:

This is a solution (and discipline) that I've seen officially 
instituted on other high-volume mailing lists. If everybody adopts the 
discipline, it works exceedingly well. Even if just MOST everybody 
does it, it works... pretty good! Let's try to do it for the sake of 
those others on the list, like Dave, who would appreciate it.


Taking it to the next level, subject Preamble words could be:


K1
KX1
K2
OT
T1
XV

Based on ones interest, the filtering could be set for accept or reject.

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Re: [Elecraft] List complaints - solution

[Chuck]

._
>This is a solution (and discipline) that I've seen officially
instituted on  
>other high-volume mailing lists. If everybody adopts the
discipline, it works  
>exceedingly well...

For the users as long as server can deal with all the traffic

73 Chuck AA8VS

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Re: [Elecraft] List SPAM & SCAM

[Philippe Trottet]

Received also and junked it. 
73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> David Guernsey  25-09-2010 14:49 >>>
I also received an email with subject "Sad News" 

73s de Dave Guernsey KJ6CBS



  
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Re: [Elecraft] List SPAM again

[Nigel ( Nidge ) Smith]

Knowing Bob I can confirm he is signifiantly more literate than
the scammer who originated the email, which interestingly did
originate from Kuala Lumpar (IP Trace).

I've sent Bob an email off line alerting him that he has been
spoofed on the reflector.

Regards

Nidge (G0NIG)

IO93dv


- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Gregory" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:46 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] List SPAM again


>I guess everyone got the email or am I just special?
>
> Seems to have come from (g3pjt  @  btinternet.  com)
>
> But not being computer literate (it's still a black art for me) I could be
> wrong...yet again.
>
> No Biggie, delete key is still working.
>
> 73's
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Re: [Elecraft] List complaints - solution

[Thom LaCosta]

On Fri, 18 May 2007, Fred (FL) wrote:


b.  In the past, when I posted a dumb or worse,
posting - I emailed you, requesting that the post
be deleted.  Never got an answer?  Isn't there
some way - OWNERS OF LIST POSTS, could thereafter
delete their posts - like other known group
lists?  (ex - yahoo groups)?


I believe this list is run on Mailman...and as such there is no way to "take 
back" a postsince as soon as you send it to the list, it goes back 
out...unless the list owner has set the list up to require his or her approval 
of every message, or only moderate certain list members.


 > > Lets say a person 
posted a totally inappropriate > posting - and wanted it deleted.  How do they

do this, on this list?


As far as I know, it can't be done.


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Re: [Elecraft] List complaints - solution

[Bill W5WVO]

Fred, this mail reflector doesn't work the same way as a Yahoo group. A Yahoo 
or Google group is web-based, and all the message content resides on a web 
server. The content can also be emailed out to members if they choose. But 
because it's based on a server, a message can be deleted -- though the people 
who already received it via email have it, and it can't be "recalled."


A mail reflector like this one is run strictly using POP3 email protocol. This 
is a dynamic protocol in that the server doesn't keep a copy of the messages 
it gets; it receives them and promptly sends them back out to the subscribers, 
just like a repeater. There is no permanent server record of the messages.


Bill / W5WVO


Thom LaCosta wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2007, Fred (FL) wrote:


b.  In the past, when I posted a dumb or worse,
posting - I emailed you, requesting that the post
be deleted.  Never got an answer?  Isn't there
some way - OWNERS OF LIST POSTS, could thereafter
delete their posts - like other known group
lists?  (ex - yahoo groups)?


I believe this list is run on Mailman...and as such there is no way
to "take back" a postsince as soon as you send it to the list, it
goes back out...unless the list owner has set the list up to require
his or her approval of every message, or only moderate certain list
members.
 > > Lets say a person
posted a totally inappropriate > posting - and wanted it deleted. How do 
they

do this, on this list?


As far as I know, it can't be done.


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Re: [Elecraft] List complaints - solution

[Thom LaCosta]

On Fri, 18 May 2007, Bill Tippett wrote:



...and yes, inappropriate messages can be deleted
from Mailman archives although it takes special effort
by the sysop(i.e. not simply the list admin)


But if one puts one foot in ones mouth, or makes an inaccurate statement, it 
does go to everyone on the list (g).



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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Rose]

Actually Harry, how else would an owner of Elecraft equipment easily become
aware of what's available?

No different than a vehicle vendor offering floor mats manufactured by
another vendor.

Two after-market vendors come to mind that are Elecraft-specific, and are
occasionally "plugged" by list members.
I purchased their products after becoming aware of them on the list. Much
more efficient than a Google search.

FWIW ...

K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Walter Underwood]

Some high volume lists have two lists, xxx-announce and xxx-discuss. The 
xxx-announce is sometimes a read-only list that can only be posted to be the 
list owners. No replies allowed. The xxx-discuss list is for discussion, of 
course.

I don’t fee the list is too busy, but I’ve been getting thousands of e-mails 
for decades.

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> On May 27, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Rose  wrote:
> 
> Actually Harry, how else would an owner of Elecraft equipment easily become
> aware of what's available?
> 
> No different than a vehicle vendor offering floor mats manufactured by
> another vendor.
> 
> Two after-market vendors come to mind that are Elecraft-specific, and are
> occasionally "plugged" by list members.
> I purchased their products after becoming aware of them on the list. Much
> more efficient than a Google search.
> 
> FWIW ...
> 
> K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Ron Wilcox]

Harry I would respectfully disagree with some of your post. Because of
questions from others I have learned a lot about using antennas with my KX2
while camping, I have been able to investigate side products that work with
my K3s and have purchased a few of them and they have enhanced my operating
with my rigs. I would not have known about them otherwise.  I have seen
posts about some RFI and followed some suggestions that has helped reduce
my RFI. These may not have been directly elecraft products but they have
really helped me. Some forums are too strict for me and not very friendly,
this one has just the right balance for me. Not having an electronics
background I have learned  a lot. It reminds me of another forum I really
like, DXlab where no question is to be slighted, and it is a very open
learning format. I feel the same about this one. Nurturing a learning
environment for all in the hobby who buy elecraft, to me, is
important.There have been a few threads that should have been stopped and
were. Being offended easily, being grumpy, or unwilling to entertain
other's views is not needed. I find it very easy to delete posts I do not
need. I hope you stay on because it sounds like you have experience and can
help others who might be new or not have a technology background. Have a
great day.

Today is a good day to have a Great Day!
73   Ron Wilcox KF7ZN
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On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Rose  wrote:

> Actually Harry, how else would an owner of Elecraft equipment easily become
> aware of what's available?
>
> No different than a vehicle vendor offering floor mats manufactured by
> another vendor.
>
> Two after-market vendors come to mind that are Elecraft-specific, and are
> occasionally "plugged" by list members.
> I purchased their products after becoming aware of them on the list. Much
> more efficient than a Google search.
>
> FWIW ...
>
> K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Jim Sr Sturges]

The way to encourage more posts like this is to reply to them, he said with
an embarrassed look.

On Sat, 27 May 2017 at 13:55 Ron Wilcox  wrote:

> Harry I would respectfully disagree with some of your post. Because of
> questions from others I have learned a lot about using antennas with my KX2
> while camping, I have been able to investigate side products that work with
> my K3s and have purchased a few of them and they have enhanced my operating
> with my rigs. I would not have known about them otherwise.  I have seen
> posts about some RFI and followed some suggestions that has helped reduce
> my RFI. These may not have been directly elecraft products but they have
> really helped me. Some forums are too strict for me and not very friendly,
> this one has just the right balance for me. Not having an electronics
> background I have learned  a lot. It reminds me of another forum I really
> like, DXlab where no question is to be slighted, and it is a very open
> learning format. I feel the same about this one. Nurturing a learning
> environment for all in the hobby who buy elecraft, to me, is
> important.There have been a few threads that should have been stopped and
> were. Being offended easily, being grumpy, or unwilling to entertain
> other's views is not needed. I find it very easy to delete posts I do not
> need. I hope you stay on because it sounds like you have experience and can
> help others who might be new or not have a technology background. Have a
> great day.
>
> Today is a good day to have a Great Day!
> 73   Ron Wilcox KF7ZN
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>
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Rose  wrote:
>
> > Actually Harry, how else would an owner of Elecraft equipment easily
> become
> > aware of what's available?
> >
> > No different than a vehicle vendor offering floor mats manufactured by
> > another vendor.
> >
> > Two after-market vendors come to mind that are Elecraft-specific, and are
> > occasionally "plugged" by list members.
> > I purchased their products after becoming aware of them on the list. Much
> > more efficient than a Google search.
> >
> > FWIW ...
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Kevin Stover, AC0H]

On 5/27/2017 12:53 PM, Ron Wilcox wrote:

Nurturing a learning environment for all in the hobby who buy elecraft, to me, 
is
important.There have been a few threads that should have been stopped and
were. 


Define learning environment. The Internet is a terrible place to "learn" 
anything. It's 90% advertisement, 5% porn, and 5% information, three 
fourths of which is just plain wrong.



Being offended easily, being grumpy, or unwilling to entertain
other's views is not needed.


Thanks Mom.
I am not offended easily. I am Grumpy, I've earned it. I do not suffer 
fools well, especially those who haven't taken the time to at least skim 
the manual and those people stick out like a putrefied thumb.


I do entertain others views. Many of them are so tragically wrong they 
can't be classified as anything other than entertainment.


There is no guarantee in the US Constitution of never being offended, 
even if some are trying to weasel one in there by hook or by crook. It's 
knife that cuts both ways.




I find it very easy to delete posts I do not
need. 


Ditto.






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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Bill Johnson]

I think it best to respond to Harry directly, OFF LIST, as he has now created 
the situation he was complaining about.  I have directly responded to him, yet 
my response here has also extended the comments myself.  Besides, this is a job 
best done by Erick.

73,
Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

[Bill Johnson]

That would be better read as Eric.  :0-)

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill 
Johnson
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 5:04 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List overload - Additional

I think it best to respond to Harry directly, OFF LIST, as he has now created 
the situation he was complaining about.  I have directly responded to him, yet 
my response here has also extended the comments myself.  Besides, this is a job 
best done by Erick.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Re: [Elecraft] List or Forum

[Alan Bee via Elecraft]

I have no emails, browser mode only, look daily, works well.
Only downside is I scan list for items of interest, maybe reply so might reply 
to a thread closed in the last 24 hours having not yet seen the closure 
notice.If more of us move to browser I guess there could be a couple more 
excess posts but only 1 days's worth.My 'vote' is keep the list.73  Alan  G0HIQ
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Re: [Elecraft] List or Forum

[Bill]

Works fine the way it is - no extra complications are needed.

Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] List or Forum

[Nr4c]

God. Will it ever end?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 19, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Bill  wrote:
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> Works fine the way it is - no extra complications are needed.
> 
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] List or Forum

[Wes Stewart]

No.

On 8/19/2017 2:21 PM, Nr4c wrote:

God. Will it ever end?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



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Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

[Geert Jan de Groot]

I believe this used to go out automatically every month, but anyway;
https://elecraft.com/pages/email-discussion-list-guidelines
Please review,,, and NOTE; we now have over 7000 members!
(there were only 3000 when Eric wrote this) > Specifically re recent discussion 
see sections;
3, 4a, 5, 5a, 5a1, 5b, 8.


Just an opinion, not trying to start another mail thread:
I would like the list owner to consider restricting forsale messages.

With the K4 being available and the availability of some K3 options, I 
now see a flurry of messages from people offloading their kit, or 
looking for something.


A discussion about a K3 that has a defect or a modification will benefit 
future readers for years to come (yes, I do use the archives which I 
think is a valuable part of the reflector).


The flurry of messages "K3 for sale ... K3 has been sold" lost their 
value the moment the message is on the list. The person offloading 
doesn't care when he switches to flex or whatever but damage to the 
archives is forever.


If the reflector degrades to a forsale list then attendance will be 6999 
and probably (much) lower.


Geert Jan
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Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

[Rich WC3T]

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Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

[Jim Brown]

Blank email.

This reflector is plain text only, and is known to reject posts with 
HTML-formatting.


73, Jim K9YC

On 10/27/2023 2:52 PM, Rich WC3T wrote:


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Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

[David Gilbert]

Why do you think that for sale posts have little value to the list at 
large??  I very much appreciate knowing what is available since Elecraft 
no longer supports such a high percentage of their products, and I 
appreciate knowing what the going prices for those items are.  Why 
should I have to go to multiple places elsewhere with much lower 
membership to search for that information?


There a LOTS of posts made to the Elecraft reflector that don't interest 
me in the least.  A keypress to delete them takes but an instant and I 
can sort though an entire day's posts in a matter of seconds ... literally.


Dave  AB7E



On 10/27/2023 1:32 PM, Geert Jan de Groot wrote:



I believe this used to go out automatically every month, but anyway;
https://elecraft.com/pages/email-discussion-list-guidelines
Please review,,, and NOTE; we now have over 7000 members!
(there were only 3000 when Eric wrote this) > Specifically re recent 
discussion see sections;

3, 4a, 5, 5a, 5a1, 5b, 8.


Just an opinion, not trying to start another mail thread:
I would like the list owner to consider restricting forsale messages.

With the K4 being available and the availability of some K3 options, I 
now see a flurry of messages from people offloading their kit, or 
looking for something.


A discussion about a K3 that has a defect or a modification will 
benefit future readers for years to come (yes, I do use the archives 
which I think is a valuable part of the reflector).


The flurry of messages "K3 for sale ... K3 has been sold" lost their 
value the moment the message is on the list. The person offloading 
doesn't care when he switches to flex or whatever but damage to the 
archives is forever.


If the reflector degrades to a forsale list then attendance will be 
6999 and probably (much) lower.


Geert Jan
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Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

[Wes]

I'm with Dave on this one.  I see guys setting up complicated email filters to 
sort messages into different folders, etc,   I just look at the subject and, 
more often that not, hit the delete key.


Since I have a K3 in a box under the desk that I should be selling I'm 
interested in what the market is too. Leave well enough alone.


Wes  N7WS

On 10/27/2023 3:34 PM, David Gilbert wrote:



Why do you think that for sale posts have little value to the list at large??  
I very much appreciate knowing what is available since Elecraft no longer 
supports such a high percentage of their products, and I appreciate knowing 
what the going prices for those items are.  Why should I have to go to 
multiple places elsewhere with much lower membership to search for that 
information?


There a LOTS of posts made to the Elecraft reflector that don't interest me in 
the least.  A keypress to delete them takes but an instant and I can sort 
though an entire day's posts in a matter of seconds ... literally.


Dave  AB7E



On 10/27/2023 1:32 PM, Geert Jan de Groot wrote:



I believe this used to go out automatically every month, but anyway;
https://elecraft.com/pages/email-discussion-list-guidelines
Please review,,, and NOTE; we now have over 7000 members!
(there were only 3000 when Eric wrote this) > Specifically re recent 
discussion see sections;

3, 4a, 5, 5a, 5a1, 5b, 8.


Just an opinion, not trying to start another mail thread:
I would like the list owner to consider restricting forsale messages.

With the K4 being available and the availability of some K3 options, I now 
see a flurry of messages from people offloading their kit, or looking for 
something.


A discussion about a K3 that has a defect or a modification will benefit 
future readers for years to come (yes, I do use the archives which I think is 
a valuable part of the reflector).


The flurry of messages "K3 for sale ... K3 has been sold" lost their value 
the moment the message is on the list. The person offloading doesn't care 
when he switches to flex or whatever but damage to the archives is forever.


If the reflector degrades to a forsale list then attendance will be 6999 and 
probably (much) lower.


Geert Jan

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Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

[AB2E Darrell]

I also agree with Dave and Wes.
Keeping up with current resale values is useful to me.
73
Darrell AB2E

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Wes 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 5:22 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

I'm with Dave on this one.  I see guys setting up complicated email filters to
sort messages into different folders, etc,   I just look at the subject and,
more often that not, hit the delete key.

Since I have a K3 in a box under the desk that I should be selling I'm
interested in what the market is too. Leave well enough alone.

Wes  N7WS

On 10/27/2023 3:34 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
>
>
> Why do you think that for sale posts have little value to the list at large??
> I very much appreciate knowing what is available since Elecraft no longer
> supports such a high percentage of their products, and I appreciate knowing
> what the going prices for those items are.  Why should I have to go to
> multiple places elsewhere with much lower membership to search for that
> information?
>
> There a LOTS of posts made to the Elecraft reflector that don't interest me in
> the least.  A keypress to delete them takes but an instant and I can sort
> though an entire day's posts in a matter of seconds ... literally.
>
> Dave  AB7E
>
>
>
> On 10/27/2023 1:32 PM, Geert Jan de Groot wrote:
>>
>>> I believe this used to go out automatically every month, but anyway;
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felecraft.com%2Fpages%2Femail-discussion-list-guidelines&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ceb71de1f57cd4ff801e508dbda21cc9b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638343610941693319%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=fIi6zl9R79Wbn39ngAAZZWa6JIQ7ZFd5na1z1ifLsJs%3D&reserved=0<https://elecraft.com/pages/email-discussion-list-guidelines>
>>> Please review,,, and NOTE; we now have over 7000 members!
>>> (there were only 3000 when Eric wrote this) > Specifically re recent
>>> discussion see sections;
>>> 3, 4a, 5, 5a, 5a1, 5b, 8.
>>
>> Just an opinion, not trying to start another mail thread:
>> I would like the list owner to consider restricting forsale messages.
>>
>> With the K4 being available and the availability of some K3 options, I now
>> see a flurry of messages from people offloading their kit, or looking for
>> something.
>>
>> A discussion about a K3 that has a defect or a modification will benefit
>> future readers for years to come (yes, I do use the archives which I think is
>> a valuable part of the reflector).
>>
>> The flurry of messages "K3 for sale ... K3 has been sold" lost their value
>> the moment the message is on the list. The person offloading doesn't care
>> when he switches to flex or whatever but damage to the archives is forever.
>>
>> If the reflector degrades to a forsale list then attendance will be 6999 and
>> probably (much) lower.
>>
>> Geert Jan
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Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Agreed
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)

> On 31 Oct 2023, at 15:05, AB2E Darrell  wrote:
> 
> I also agree with Dave and Wes.
> Keeping up with current resale values is useful to me.
> 73
> Darrell AB2E
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
> behalf of Wes 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 5:22 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.
> 
> I'm with Dave on this one.  I see guys setting up complicated email filters to
> sort messages into different folders, etc,   I just look at the subject and,
> more often that not, hit the delete key.
> 
> Since I have a K3 in a box under the desk that I should be selling I'm
> interested in what the market is too. Leave well enough alone.
> 
> Wes  N7WS
> 
> On 10/27/2023 3:34 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Why do you think that for sale posts have little value to the list at large??
>> I very much appreciate knowing what is available since Elecraft no longer
>> supports such a high percentage of their products, and I appreciate knowing
>> what the going prices for those items are.  Why should I have to go to
>> multiple places elsewhere with much lower membership to search for that
>> information?
>> 
>> There a LOTS of posts made to the Elecraft reflector that don't interest me 
>> in
>> the least.  A keypress to delete them takes but an instant and I can sort
>> though an entire day's posts in a matter of seconds ... literally.
>> 
>> Dave  AB7E
>> 

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Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

[Jerry Moore]

Right, I was just trying to find out how much my setup is worth to help decide 
if I wanted to part with it. 
*shrug*. 
If there's a better place suggest off list I guess. 
Tnx. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:28 AM
To: AB2E Darrell 
Cc: ElecraftList 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

Agreed
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)

> On 31 Oct 2023, at 15:05, AB2E Darrell  wrote:
> 
> I also agree with Dave and Wes.
> Keeping up with current resale values is useful to me.
> 73
> Darrell AB2E
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>  on behalf of Wes 
> 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 5:22 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.
> 
> I'm with Dave on this one.  I see guys setting up complicated email filters to
> sort messages into different folders, etc,   I just look at the subject and,
> more often that not, hit the delete key.
> 
> Since I have a K3 in a box under the desk that I should be selling I'm 
> interested in what the market is too. Leave well enough alone.
> 
> Wes  N7WS
> 
> On 10/27/2023 3:34 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Why do you think that for sale posts have little value to the list at large??
>> I very much appreciate knowing what is available since Elecraft no 
>> longer supports such a high percentage of their products, and I 
>> appreciate knowing what the going prices for those items are.  Why 
>> should I have to go to multiple places elsewhere with much lower 
>> membership to search for that information?
>> 
>> There a LOTS of posts made to the Elecraft reflector that don't 
>> interest me in the least.  A keypress to delete them takes but an 
>> instant and I can sort though an entire day's posts in a matter of seconds 
>> ... literally.
>> 
>> Dave  AB7E
>> 

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Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.

[Dean L/ K2WW]

Im with Dave,Wes and Darrell.
Having for sale items is nice and a delete key away.
73
Dean K2WW


On Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 11:06 AM AB2E Darrell  wrote:

> I also agree with Dave and Wes.
> Keeping up with current resale values is useful to me.
> 73
> Darrell AB2E
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> on behalf of Wes 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 5:22 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List guidelines, please review.
>
> I'm with Dave on this one.  I see guys setting up complicated email
> filters to
> sort messages into different folders, etc,   I just look at the subject
> and,
> more often that not, hit the delete key.
>
> Since I have a K3 in a box under the desk that I should be selling I'm
> interested in what the market is too. Leave well enough alone.
>
> Wes  N7WS
>
> On 10/27/2023 3:34 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
> >
> >
> > Why do you think that for sale posts have little value to the list at
> large??
> > I very much appreciate knowing what is available since Elecraft no longer
> > supports such a high percentage of their products, and I appreciate
> knowing
> > what the going prices for those items are.  Why should I have to go to
> > multiple places elsewhere with much lower membership to search for that
> > information?
> >
> > There a LOTS of posts made to the Elecraft reflector that don't interest
> me in
> > the least.  A keypress to delete them takes but an instant and I can sort
> > though an entire day's posts in a matter of seconds ... literally.
> >
> > Dave  AB7E
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/27/2023 1:32 PM, Geert Jan de Groot wrote:
> >>
> >>> I believe this used to go out automatically every month, but anyway;
> >>>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felecraft.com%2Fpages%2Femail-discussion-list-guidelines&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ceb71de1f57cd4ff801e508dbda21cc9b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638343610941693319%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=fIi6zl9R79Wbn39ngAAZZWa6JIQ7ZFd5na1z1ifLsJs%3D&reserved=0
> <https://elecraft.com/pages/email-discussion-list-guidelines>
> >>> Please review,,, and NOTE; we now have over 7000 members!
> >>> (there were only 3000 when Eric wrote this) > Specifically re recent
> >>> discussion see sections;
> >>> 3, 4a, 5, 5a, 5a1, 5b, 8.
> >>
> >> Just an opinion, not trying to start another mail thread:
> >> I would like the list owner to consider restricting forsale messages.
> >>
> >> With the K4 being available and the availability of some K3 options, I
> now
> >> see a flurry of messages from people offloading their kit, or looking
> for
> >> something.
> >>
> >> A discussion about a K3 that has a defect or a modification will benefit
> >> future readers for years to come (yes, I do use the archives which I
> think is
> >> a valuable part of the reflector).
> >>
> >> The flurry of messages "K3 for sale ... K3 has been sold" lost their
> value
> >> the moment the message is on the list. The person offloading doesn't
> care
> >> when he switches to flex or whatever but damage to the archives is
> forever.
> >>
> >> If the reflector degrades to a forsale list then attendance will be
> 6999 and
> >> probably (much) lower.
> >>
> >> Geert Jan
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Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE!

[Don Wilhelm]

John,

I don't know what to say.  I usually keep the first few exchanges 
'on-list' just because there may be others interested.  But if the 
problem resolution gets into deep details and requires a number of "try 
this" or "try that", I take it off-list.
I figure it is up to the person with the problem to post the results 
when we are finished.  Sadly, you are correct, many do not.

73,
Don W3FPR

NQ3RP wrote:
> Eric, Wayne and Don -
>
> I have read approximately 1500 of the post on this list.  I have found some
> of them very informative, while others are almost useless.  Why?
>
> Because there needs to be a basic rule change.  I appreciate the fact that
> you guys get back SO quickly when someone post a problem (ME).  But 99 times
> out of 100 all the resolution and responses are done OFF LIST.  So those of
> us who are doing research find NO resolution to the problem posted unless
> the poster comes back and says what they found.
>
>   
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Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE!

[John Ragle]

On 7/15/2010 8:06 AM, NQ3RP wrote:
> Eric, Wayne and Don -
>
> ...Could we PLEASE post all responses on list?
>
=

A lot of the traffic on this server is just rag-chewing, having little 
or nothing to do specifically with Elecraft problems. IMHO that kind of 
traffic that should be OFF the list.

I am, myself, ambivalent about being subscribed to the server. It 
generates a totally immodest amount of stuff. Since everyone likes to 
sound off on their favorite issues (me too), perhaps there should be a 
chat version of the list, and a second, more important, one devoted to 
problems and their solutions.

A rule that requires only problem-related, Elecraft, postings seems a 
bit draconian, though it was probably the intent of the originators.  A 
truly anal list moderator would make it so. I'm glad I don't have to 
make those decisions.

John Ragle -- W1ZI
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Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE!

[Jim Miller KG0KP]

IMHO, I think the private answering originates from flaming the people 
answering questions, not on this reflector (there aren't any other 
reflectors like this one) like others, but it is a learned response that 
makes one wary and carrys across.  It makes one not want to answer with a 
general fix or how to get started and improve later for fear the hard line 
purist will send a page of criticism that ONLY applies to purists with 
unlimited funding and the poor fellow asking just got his first radio and 
wants to know the minumum height of an 80 meter dipole or the number of 
radials for a vertical because the manual says "it doesn't need any".  His 
reaction to a battle on the reflector, is this what ham radio is like?

> If we make it a rule that all postings MUST be through the list

Some reflectors only place the reflector email address in the response bar 
but one can still glean the actual email address from the message.  Ask for 
it as you did, you can't force it.

Flame suit on.

73, de Jim KG0KP


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Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE!

[daleputnam]

Yet with that might there be a handy way to get included in the off list 
resolution? I've missed some of the most interesting resolutions because it has 
gone off list. (Some of us dig deeper.or are gluttons...)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:40:12 
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Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE!

John,

I don't know what to say.  I usually keep the first few exchanges 
'on-list' just because there may be others interested.  But if the 
problem resolution gets into deep details and requires a number of "try 
this" or "try that", I take it off-list.
I figure it is up to the person with the problem to post the results 
when we are finished.  Sadly, you are correct, many do not.

73,
Don W3FPR

NQ3RP wrote:
> Eric, Wayne and Don -
>
> I have read approximately 1500 of the post on this list.  I have found some
> of them very informative, while others are almost useless.  Why?
>
> Because there needs to be a basic rule change.  I appreciate the fact that
> you guys get back SO quickly when someone post a problem (ME).  But 99 times
> out of 100 all the resolution and responses are done OFF LIST.  So those of
> us who are doing research find NO resolution to the problem posted unless
> the poster comes back and says what they found.
>
>   
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Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE!

[Jim Brown]

I always go under the assumption that if one guy wants to know 
something, several other list members do too. The only times I 
respond off list are when I am reasonably sure that no one but the 
person asking the question cares about the answer, or when the 
exchange needs to get very detailed to solve a unique problam (as 
W3FPR often does). 

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE!

[Kok Chen]

On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

> I always go under the assumption that if one guy wants to know 
> something, several other list members do too.

I usually go off list, which I very often do, when the question gets specific.  
Stuff like "K3 sees no transmit audio from cocoaModem."   There are not enough 
cocoaModem users to waste bandwidth on.  

73
Chen, W7AY

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Re: [Elecraft] List of K1 modifications

[Hjalmar Duklæt]

Hi Jim.
Have a look at this page http://homepage.ntlworld.com/lapthorn/k1.htm. At the 
bottom you will find two links to sites decribing som mods made by others than 
Elecraft. Mods made by Elecraft (if there are any), you will probably find on 
the official Elecraft site.

73 de Hal
la4xx

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/lapthorn/k1.htm

On 15-01-19 01:24, James Rodenkirch   wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have a list of all K1 mods (those approved by Elecraft and those 
> that others have installedOR the URL of a site that does and can vector 
> me to? 
>  
> Thank you, in advance, for your assistance. 72, Jim Rodenkirch
>  
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Re: [Elecraft] List Membership Second Time Around

[David F. Reed]

Ed,

without seeing the full header,most of us would only be able to "guess"; 
with the full header of the bounce messages, some of us could tell you 
what happened.


So, by way of guessing, here goes:

   when a list sends you a message, it gets bounced for one of several
   reasons; that your ISP is ignoring them (not accepting messages),
   that someone in the loop (say, for example you use "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
   as an email address, and it merely forwards email to whatever
   address you give it to do that) could be down, or having trouble
   relaying to you, or there could be a DNS (Domain Name Service that
   converts the name to an I. P.  address) failure for a variety of
   reasons.

   When that happens, some lists will unsubscribe you (a good practice
   to reduce dead traffic).

   So the headers contain the information of where and what went wrong,
   which could help.

   Sometimes an ISP tries to "help" you by counting all kinds of stuff
   as SPAM, some correctly and some not so correctly. 


   The problem was not likely at Elecraft, but more likely something
   with your ISP, whom you should be able to contact for help, though
   typically they are not much help in my experience, which is why some
   of us end up learning this stuff in the school of hard knocks.

73 de Dave, W5SV


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello everyone. Sorry to take up bandwidth but maybe someone can help my
mentally limited brain understand the excessive bounce notices and what
they imply.

A few months back I kept getting excessive bounce notices and had to keep
re-enabling my membership. Eventually the membership was cancelled. So
when I see these notices what should I be doing or not doing. I sent an
e-mail to Elecraft a few months back but didn't get a response as everyone
there is pretty darn busy.

Thanks in advance.

73 de Ed N0EHQ; patiently waiting for my K3.


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Re: [Elecraft] List of menu commands, queries

[Tom Mc]

Steve:

Try this, their is also one for sale, I believe.

http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2_QRC_8x8.pdf

Tom
WB2QDG
K2 1103
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
-Original Message-
From: Barry, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Date: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:05 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] List of menu commands, queries


Is there a complete, in one file, list of all K2 commands and queries
including
the PA, SSB, DSP, etc modules?

Thanks for any info.

Steve, AE2G
K2 s/n #377


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Re: [Elecraft] List of menu commands, queries

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Yes. Its on our manual download page at the bottom.

See: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KIO2%20Pgmrs%20Ref%20rev%20E.pdf

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Barry, Steve wrote:


Is there a complete, in one file, list of all K2 commands and queries
including the PA, SSB, DSP, etc. modules?

 



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RE: [Elecraft] List of Popular K2 User Modifications?

[Don Wilhelm]

Mark,

Sverre Holm LA3ZA maintains the 'Unofficial' list of K2 mods - take a look
at http://www.qslnet.de/member/la3za/K2/mod.html for the info.  The list
contains older mods that have been incorporated into the newer K2 design as
well as a lot of other user mods.  Select from those user mods carefully,
and be certain that the benefit to be derived is consistent with your
desires.  As an example, my CW PTT mod is listed there, and while a benefit
to some, it kills the QSK capability of the K2 while it is active and would
not be desirable under normal situations.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -Original Message-
>
> Having just completed my K2 and only recently been following the
> Reflector for K2 topics, I wondered if there was a popular list of user
> modifications which can be added to a K2 apart from Elecraft's standard
> boards.  I hear about a screen for the crystal filters, for example.
> Any advice is appreciated and thank you all in anticipation.  (On-list
> or Off-list)
>
> 72, Mark Raybould
> G3XYS
> KX1, K1, K2
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RE: [Elecraft] List of Popular K2 User Modifications?

[Petr Ouředník]

Don,

thank You very much for very usefull link with the K2-mods list.

I would like to ask if its possible to find somewhere the simillar list for K1 
also?

Thank You for help to all folks,

Petr OK1RP


>   Původní zpráva 
>  Od: Don Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Předmět: RE: [Elecraft] List of Popular K2 User Modifications?
>  Datum: 12.5.2006 00:20:40
>  
>  Mark,
>  
>  Sverre Holm LA3ZA maintains the 'Unofficial' list of K2 mods - take a look
>  at http://www.qslnet.de/member/la3za/K2/mod.html for the info.  The list
>  contains older mods that have been incorporated into the newer K2 design as
>  well as a lot of other user mods.  Select from those user mods carefully,
>  and be certain that the benefit to be derived is consistent with your
>  desires.  As an example, my CW PTT mod is listed there, and while a benefit
>  to some, it kills the QSK capability of the K2 while it is active and would
>  not be desirable under normal situations.
>  
>  73,
>  Don W3FPR
>  
>  > -Original Message-
>  >
>  > Having just completed my K2 and only recently been following the
>  > Reflector for K2 topics, I wondered if there was a popular list of user
>  > modifications which can be added to a K2 apart from Elecraft's standard
>  > boards.  I hear about a screen for the crystal filters, for example.
>  > Any advice is appreciated and thank you all in anticipation.  (On-list
>  > or Off-list)
>  >
>  > 72, Mark Raybould
>  > G3XYS
>  > KX1, K1, K2
>  >
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RE: [Elecraft] List of Popular K2 User Modifications?

[Don Wilhelm]

Petr,

As far as I know, there is no comparable list of mods for the K1, but then
as far as I know, there are fewer mods to the K1.  I and a few others have
put a K1 on 160 meters and there is at least 1 K1 that tunes on 10 meters,
and as I recall someone actually added sideband to a K1 (my memory is
'fuzzy' on that one).  You will have to comb the archives for mentions of
these mods and follow the links that are provided.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -Original Message-
>
> thank You very much for very usefull link with the K2-mods list.
>
> I would like to ask if its possible to find somewhere the
> simillar list for K1 also?
>
> Thank You for help to all folks,
>
> Petr OK1RP
>
>

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RE: [Elecraft] List of Popular K2 User Modifications?

[K. Rice]

Here are some URLS for the K1 sideband mod.

Thread (tnx ve3mcf):
http://www.qsl.net/ve3mcf/elecraft_reflect/K1_Mod_SSB_Reception.txt

Giuliano's K1 web page:
http://it.geocities.com/giulianoi0cg/k1_page.html

K1 SSB mod PDF:
http://it.geocities.com/giulianoi0cg/k1ssbmod_ed2.pdf

I haven't done this mod.

73
Ken
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Re: [Elecraft] List of Popular K2 User Modifications?

[Sam Morgan]

K. Rice wrote:

Here are some URLS for the K1 sideband mod.

snip

Giuliano's K1 web page:
http://it.geocities.com/giulianoi0cg/k1_page.html

K1 SSB mod PDF:
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who says the K1 part of this Elecraft group is small?
we managed to cause this:

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Re: [Elecraft] List of Popular K2 User Modifications?

[Sam Morgan]

Sam Morgan wrote:

K. Rice wrote:

Here are some URLS for the K1 sideband mod.

snip

Giuliano's K1 web page:

snip

Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable!

Here is a working url for the K1 mods that I found in the 
K1_Mod_SSB_Reception.txt, seems they are in .doc form

I wonder if these have the same content as the k1ssbmod_ed2.pdf does?

http://krom.meiring.org.uk/K1/
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Re: [Elecraft] list postings, K3's and K4's

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

OK Robert - let me be truly heretical.  I have K3 #4275, and do 99 
percent of my operating in assisted CW contests and CWTs.  I use N1MM 
Logger's Spectrum Display Window, and for my kind of operating I find it 
superior to either the P3 or the K4's spectrum display.  Why? Because of 
the integration with logging and particularly display of spots right on 
top of the spectrum.  In addition to the straightforward display of 
signals across the band, the Spectrum Display shows me the callsigns of 
spotted stations superimposed on the spectrum, as well as the callsigns 
of stations that would be dupes.  It makes it VERY easy to find a run 
frequency, and to see when someone moves in on top of you whether you 
can move aside just a speck and continue running.


Until someone shows me another good reason, I'm staying with my K3.

73, Pete N4ZR
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For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 2/24/2022 1:33 PM, Robert Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
I've been periodically wondering why there seems to be so few posting 
to the list. I then remind myself that I have a message filter 
directing all K4 messages to a separate bin. Looking there I note that 
there is a great deal of activity/postings. I conclude that the most 
active list members are interested in the K4 or have either bought one 
or are getting ready to do so. That said, I have to believe that the 
installed base of K3's and K3s's is quite large and will remain so. As 
one of these [K3s #11832] I hope that we won't be left in the dust as 
the K4 charges by. While fully recognizing the superiority of the K4, 
my circumstances don't include a new radio; also, I'm still learning 
how to maximize utilization of the K3s in front of me. Perhaps it's 
analogous to the relationship between brand new Porsche 911's and 
911's from previous years: the older ones still pack a punch that most 
drivers can hardly access. All such matters aside, I'm happy for 
Elecraft's success and hope and trust that it continues into the future.


... robert   KE2WY

Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY
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Re: [Elecraft] list postings, K3's and K4's

[VE6WZ_Steve]

Pete…

Flex radio has done this for years.

I agree with you. Having the spots ON the spectra display and waterfall is the 
only way to go.
See who is where, what their trace looks like, point and shoot to QSY etc.
I could never go back.

Is this not available on the K4 display?

73, de steve ve6wz


>  Why? Because of the integration with logging and particularly display of 
> spots right on top of the spectrum.  In addition to the straightforward 
> display of signals across the band, the Spectrum Display shows me the 
> callsigns of spotted stations superimposed on the spectrum, as well as the 
> callsigns of stations that would be dupes.  It makes it VERY easy to find a 
> run frequency, and to see when someone moves in on top of you whether you can 
> move aside just a speck and continue running.
> 
> Until someone shows me another good reason, I'm staying with my K3.
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR

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Re: [Elecraft] list postings, K3's and K4's

[Nate Bargmann]

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be any interest in supporting the K3 any
longer by Elecraft.  Sure, they take them for repair but that is about
it.  There have been no fixes for some nagging issues with the noise
blanker and the noise reduction is still inferior to that from other
manufacturers.  Still, the K3 is the best radio I have owned and remains
on my desk because because of that fact.

When I bought my K3 in autumn of 2010 part of the reason for doing so
was that Elecraft was still offering the K2 after many years and I
thought the company would continue to refine and support the K3 for
years to come and they did for about nine more years which is
respectable.

I am still waiting to read more reports of K4 owners after a couple of
years of ownership and they will come in time as the first owners are
now just emerging from the honeymoon phase.  I have not opted to trade
out my K3 for anything else yet and if I had to, I'm not even sure what
I might choose.

>From what I see on this list, I get a feeling that Elecraft is
struggling to some degree (a lot of companies are/have been struggling
the past couple of years so this is not a unique observation).  I don't
recall a formal response from Elecraft on the issues with the K3 finals
and the overshoot issue.  I think both issues should be addressed not
only toward those of us who bought new from Elecraft directly but also
for the second and beyond owners of the equipment.  I tend to buy new
stuff from companies that support their products well after the first
owner has moved said equipment down the road (probably why when I look
out the window on this wintry day most of our farm equipment says John
Deere).

Those second hand and beyond owners should not be ignored as a good
impression received by them will result in first owner sales that
directly benefit Elecraft.  There was a time when my shack was almost
all Yaesu.  Now I flip the pages right past their ads.

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Re: [Elecraft] list postings, K3's and K4's

[Linda M]

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Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE! [END of thread]

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Let's end this thread.

In general, if a topic is taken off list to discuss, which is always 
OKk, please also post the final resolution to the list so others can 
benefit from the results. This will save on future questions on the same 
topic posted to the list.

in general, it is outside of the guidelines to argue what should, and 
should not be posted to the list on the list itself. That just clogs up 
everything for others reading the list. Please send those requests to 
me, the list moderator for consideration.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] List postings and K3's and K4's

[David Gilbert]

I have yet to hear a compelling argument on why the K4 is superior to 
the K3s ... at least in terms of raw performance.  Lots of creature 
features, maybe, but of the two the bang for the dollar still clearly 
goes to the K3s in my opinion.


But yes, in many respects Elecraft has left K3/K3s owners in the dust by 
putting all their production focus on the K4.  I'm afraid your hope is 
not well founded.


73,
Dave   AB7E



On 2/24/2022 1:18 PM, Robert Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
I've been periodically wondering why there seems to be so few posting 
to the list. I then remind myself that I have a message filter 
directing all K4 messages to a separate bin. Looking there I note that 
there is a great deal of activity/postings. I conclude that the most 
active list members are interested in the K4 or have either bought one 
or are getting ready to do so. That said, I have to believe that the 
installed base of K3's and K3s's is quite large and will remain so. As 
one of these [K3s #11832] I hope that we won't be left in the dust as 
the K4 charges by. While fully recognizing the superiority of the K4, 
my circumstances don't include a new radio; also, I'm still learning 
how to maximize utilization of the K3s in front of me. Perhaps it's 
analogous to the relationship between brand new Porsche 911's and 
911's from previous years: the older ones still pack a punch that most 
drivers can hardly access. All such matters aside, I'm happy for 
Elecraft's success and hope and trust that it continues into the future.


... robert   KE2WY


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Re: [Elecraft] List postings and K3's and K4's

[Robert Strickland via Elecraft]

i sent this again because I couldn't find it. Then, I looked down in the 
K4 bin, and there it was. Victimized by my own message filters. HI. 
Sorry for the noise.

... robert

On 2/24/2022 20:18, Robert Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
I've been periodically wondering why there seems to be so few posting to 
the list. I then remind myself that I have a message filter directing 
all K4 messages to a separate bin. Looking there I note that there is a 
great deal of activity/postings. I conclude that the most active list 
members are interested in the K4 or have either bought one or are 
getting ready to do so. That said, I have to believe that the installed 
base of K3's and K3s's is quite large and will remain so. As one of 
these [K3s #11832] I hope that we won't be left in the dust as the K4 
charges by. While fully recognizing the superiority of the K4, my 
circumstances don't include a new radio; also, I'm still learning how to 
maximize utilization of the K3s in front of me. Perhaps it's analogous 
to the relationship between brand new Porsche 911's and 911's from 
previous years: the older ones still pack a punch that most drivers can 
hardly access. All such matters aside, I'm happy for Elecraft's success 
and hope and trust that it continues into the future.


.. robert   KE2WY


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Re: [Elecraft] List postings and K3’s and K4’s

[Dave]

The K4 is a big improvement over the K3 in terms of sounding significantly
cleaner on receive, it sounds especially sweet at very narrow CW
bandwidths. Controlled envelope SSB is likely to be included in the next
firmware release, which according to Wayne gives a huge increase in talk
power.

There is an interesting review of the K4 on eHam, in which the author
compares it against the top of the range Icom IC-7851 and the 7610… take a
look.

I have no regrets after selling my 2007 vintage early K3 last year and
placing an order for a K4D.

The K3 came out in 2007, still having support, even if additional modules
are in short supply, after all this time isn’t bad going.

Most of the K4 support is on K4 groups.io

73 Dave G4AON
K4D #286

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“ I have yet to hear a compelling argument on why the K4 is superior to the
K3s ... at least in terms of raw performance.  Lots of creature features,
maybe, but of the two the bang for the dollar still clearly goes to the K3s
in my opinion.

But yes, in many respects Elecraft has left K3/K3s owners in the dust
by putting
all their production focus on the K4.  I'm afraid your hope is not well
founded.

73,
Dave   AB7E”

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[Elecraft] [Fwd: Re: Elecraft list users in UK being blocked]

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

I just received the following from Tim, the list administrator at 
qth.net, who provides the free list server for the Elecraft list.


In general , it looks like once you are subscribed to the list for 24 
hours with a new address, you should automatically be white-listed, 
eliminating any global spam blocking of your elecraft list postings. 
This type of blocking may occur though in the first 24 hours after a new 
address is subscribed.


Also, it is always a requirement that you post to the list from the 
-exact- same email address that you subscribed with. Any other will be 
blocked as a spam source. (We get hundreds of those attempting to post 
every day.) If you wish to use multiple addresses to post, just 
subscribe each one and then set your email preferences page to 'no mail 
delivery' for those that you will only be sending from.


73,
Eric   WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator

 Original Message 
Subject:    Re: Elecraft list users in UK being blocked
Date:   Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:20:09 -0400
From:   Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Eric,

Anyone that is subscribed is white listed within 24 hours of their 
subscription.  If they try to post with an email address that isn't 
subscribed to your list, it won't get posted anyway until you do 
something about it. 

There is no other way that I know of to deal with this other than to 
just let the spam in.


Tim



At 01:02 PM 10/10/2008, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

 Original Message 
Subject: Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:20:00 +0100
From: Graham Kimbell (G3TCT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

CC: Gary Surrency <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Once again, my emails to elecraft reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> are
being bounced as shown below because I am located in UK. This happened back
in July and is completely unacceptable. Please can you get your spam
rejection system sorted out so this does not happen again?
Thanks
Graham
- Original Message -
From: "Mail Delivery System" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:05 PM
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender


> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
>   elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT
TO: <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>:
> host mailman.qth.net [63.238.179.60]: 554 Service unavailable; Client
host [84.234.17.142] blocked using uk.countries.nerd.dk; Your IP is in uk,
rejected based on geographical location
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Re: [Elecraft] [Fwd: Re: Elecraft list users in UK being blocked]

[Graham Kimbell (G3TCT)]

Eric
Thanks for following up and for the clarification.
Thanks to others who made suggestions eg on changing ISP or re-registering. 
Seems like it's working ok today - if the reflector gets this!
73
Graham
  In general , it looks like once you are subscribed to the list for 24 hours 
with a new address, you should automatically be white-listed, eliminating any 
global spam blocking of your elecraft list postings. This type of blocking may 
occur though in the first 24 hours after a new address is subscribed.

  Also, it is always a requirement that you post to the list from the -exact- 
same email address that you subscribed with. Any other will be blocked as a 
spam source. (We get hundreds of those attempting to post every day.) If you 
wish to use multiple addresses to post, just subscribe each one and then set 
your email preferences page to 'no mail delivery' for those that you will only 
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[Ken G Kopp]

Harry,

I completely disagree.

73

K0PP

On May 27, 2017 9:43 AM, "Harry Yingst via Elecraft" <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> The list is pretty much turning into a captive audience for some tohawk
> their wares and for others it has become a bit of a soap boxdroning on
> about off topic subjects for far longer than they need to be.
> It's one thing to post a short for sale and respond off list for a
> personal sale.
> But some selling commercially are using this list as a captive audience.
> (I tend to view them pretty much the same as I do any other spammer.)
> What has happened with me before (and about to do the same) is I just
> unsubscribefrom the list completely and only very occasionally visit the
> Elecraft web page.
> Sadly that inadvertently turns into me just taking my business elsewhere.
> When I'm looking for a project or a new toy Elecraft falls into being
> just one more face in the crowd instead of being at the top of the list.
> So I wind up spending my money elsewhere and then when I finallydo look at
> Elecrafts page and see a new toy I don't buy it becauseI've already gotten
> a new toy from another vendor.
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[Dean L]

'Face in the crowd"? Are you serious? Take a look around... Elecraft is a
humble operation that strives to make a quality product at affordable price.

Never had a sip of the kool-aid, just a content customer.

Good luck with your search.

Signed (proudly)

Dean M LaClair

On May 27, 2017 11:43 AM, "Harry Yingst via Elecraft" <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> The list is pretty much turning into a captive audience for some tohawk
> their wares and for others it has become a bit of a soap boxdroning on
> about off topic subjects for far longer than they need to be.
> It's one thing to post a short for sale and respond off list for a
> personal sale.
> But some selling commercially are using this list as a captive audience.
> (I tend to view them pretty much the same as I do any other spammer.)
> What has happened with me before (and about to do the same) is I just
> unsubscribefrom the list completely and only very occasionally visit the
> Elecraft web page.
> Sadly that inadvertently turns into me just taking my business elsewhere.
> When I'm looking for a project or a new toy Elecraft falls into being
> just one more face in the crowd instead of being at the top of the list.
> So I wind up spending my money elsewhere and then when I finallydo look at
> Elecrafts page and see a new toy I don't buy it becauseI've already gotten
> a new toy from another vendor.
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

There is an absolutely wonderful tool called PopFile that sits between 
your mail client and your mail server, reads all your incoming mail and 
classifies it.


You set up folders, call them K3S or KX3 or Antennas or QRM, and you 
start clicking on messages and telling PopFile "this is Antennas" or 
"This is QRM" and after the first half-dozen are classified, you only 
click on "errors."


You don't even have to know why QRM is QRM.

I respectfully submit that those who think this (relatively quiet and 
fairly tame) list is a problem spend a little time with PopFile.


73 -- Lynn

On 5/27/2017 9:01 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

Harry,

I completely disagree.

73

K0PP

On May 27, 2017 9:43 AM, "Harry Yingst via Elecraft" <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:


The list is pretty much turning into a captive audience for some tohawk
their wares and for others it has become a bit of a soap boxdroning on
about off topic subjects for far longer than they need to be.
It's one thing to post a short for sale and respond off list for a
personal sale.
But some selling commercially are using this list as a captive audience.
(I tend to view them pretty much the same as I do any other spammer.)
What has happened with me before (and about to do the same) is I just
unsubscribefrom the list completely and only very occasionally visit the
Elecraft web page.
Sadly that inadvertently turns into me just taking my business elsewhere.
When I'm looking for a project or a new toy Elecraft falls into being
just one more face in the crowd instead of being at the top of the list.
So I wind up spending my money elsewhere and then when I finallydo look at
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[GRANT YOUNGMAN]

Currently, the only “list overload” is now the multiple threads on list 
overload …. something like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[Dave Cole]

I have to agree with Harry here...  All interesting subjects for the 
most part, but this is an Elecraft list.  Talking about antenna because 
they plug into an Elecraft product is stretching it a bit to call it 
Elecraft related...


Some of the subjects have gotten even further off topic...  It would 
help us folks that are here for Elecraft information to add "OT", (Off 
Topic), to stuff that is not directly related to Elecraft...


73s and thanks,
Dave
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On 05/27/2017 08:23 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

The list is pretty much turning into a captive audience for some tohawk their 
wares and for others it has become a bit of a soap boxdroning on about off 
topic subjects for far longer than they need to be.
It's one thing to post a short for sale and respond off list for a personal 
sale.
But some selling commercially are using this list as a captive audience.
(I tend to view them pretty much the same as I do any other spammer.)
What has happened with me before (and about to do the same) is I just 
unsubscribefrom the list completely and only very occasionally visit the 
Elecraft web page.
Sadly that inadvertently turns into me just taking my business elsewhere.
When I'm looking for a project or a new toy Elecraft falls into being
just one more face in the crowd instead of being at the top of the list.
So I wind up spending my money elsewhere and then when I finallydo look at 
Elecrafts page and see a new toy I don't buy it becauseI've already gotten a 
new toy from another vendor.

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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[Michael Walker]

I'm not saying anything.

de va3mw

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:

> I have to agree with Harry here...  All interesting subjects for the most
> part, but this is an Elecraft list.  Talking about antenna because they
> plug into an Elecraft product is stretching it a bit to call it Elecraft
> related...
>
> Some of the subjects have gotten even further off topic...  It would help
> us folks that are here for Elecraft information to add "OT", (Off Topic),
> to stuff that is not directly related to Elecraft...
>
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave
> NK7Z
> http://www.nk7z.net
>
> On 05/27/2017 08:23 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>
>> The list is pretty much turning into a captive audience for some tohawk
>> their wares and for others it has become a bit of a soap boxdroning on
>> about off topic subjects for far longer than they need to be.
>> It's one thing to post a short for sale and respond off list for a
>> personal sale.
>> But some selling commercially are using this list as a captive audience.
>> (I tend to view them pretty much the same as I do any other spammer.)
>> What has happened with me before (and about to do the same) is I just
>> unsubscribefrom the list completely and only very occasionally visit the
>> Elecraft web page.
>> Sadly that inadvertently turns into me just taking my business elsewhere.
>> When I'm looking for a project or a new toy Elecraft falls into being
>> just one more face in the crowd instead of being at the top of the list.
>> So I wind up spending my money elsewhere and then when I finallydo look
>> at Elecrafts page and see a new toy I don't buy it becauseI've already
>> gotten a new toy from another vendor.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[Dave Cole]

Let me clarify my post...  I agree with Harry in that there are a lot of 
off topic discussions.  The Elecraft related stuff, like covers, 
accessories, which were designed for Elecraft products, etc., are not 
the issue for me.


73s and thanks,
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On 05/27/2017 01:51 PM, Michael Walker wrote:

I'm not saying anything.

de va3mw

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Dave Cole mailto:d...@nk7z.net>> wrote:

I have to agree with Harry here...  All interesting subjects for the
most part, but this is an Elecraft list.  Talking about antenna
because they plug into an Elecraft product is stretching it a bit to
call it Elecraft related...

Some of the subjects have gotten even further off topic...  It would
help us folks that are here for Elecraft information to add "OT",
(Off Topic), to stuff that is not directly related to Elecraft...

73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
http://www.nk7z.net

On 05/27/2017 08:23 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

The list is pretty much turning into a captive audience for some
tohawk their wares and for others it has become a bit of a soap
boxdroning on about off topic subjects for far longer than they
need to be.
It's one thing to post a short for sale and respond off list for
a personal sale.
But some selling commercially are using this list as a captive
audience.
(I tend to view them pretty much the same as I do any other
spammer.)
What has happened with me before (and about to do the same) is I
just unsubscribefrom the list completely and only very
occasionally visit the Elecraft web page.
Sadly that inadvertently turns into me just taking my business
elsewhere.
When I'm looking for a project or a new toy Elecraft falls into
being
just one more face in the crowd instead of being at the top of
the list.
So I wind up spending my money elsewhere and then when I
finallydo look at Elecrafts page and see a new toy I don't buy
it becauseI've already gotten a new toy from another vendor.

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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[David Gilbert]

note : personal reply

Wow ... somebody writing an off topic post (it had nothing to do with 
Elecraft products) to complain about off topic posts.  Talk about 
dripping with irony.


Besides, it is a trivial exercise to speed read through the topic 
headers and delete the messages you don't want to see.  I mean really 
trivial.  I can scan through well over 100 messages messages per day 
from various lists in about thirty seconds.  You spent enough time 
writing your post and reading the responses to it to cover about a 
month's equivalent.


Your post merely sounds petulant.  Grow up.



On 5/27/2017 8:23 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

The list is pretty much turning into a captive audience for some tohawk their 
wares and for others it has become a bit of a soap boxdroning on about off 
topic subjects for far longer than they need to be.
It's one thing to post a short for sale and respond off list for a personal 
sale.
But some selling commercially are using this list as a captive audience.
(I tend to view them pretty much the same as I do any other spammer.)
What has happened with me before (and about to do the same) is I just 
unsubscribefrom the list completely and only very occasionally visit the 
Elecraft web page.
Sadly that inadvertently turns into me just taking my business elsewhere.
When I'm looking for a project or a new toy Elecraft falls into being
just one more face in the crowd instead of being at the top of the list.
So I wind up spending my money elsewhere and then when I finallydo look at 
Elecrafts page and see a new toy I don't buy it becauseI've already gotten a 
new toy from another vendor.

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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[Bert Craig]

I agree 100%! It's really a form of bullying censorship. Learn how to set up 
rules in your e-mail client. Failing that, use the 'Del' key. Geez! 

Imagine coming across a QSO ota that we don't want to participate in. Rather 
than QSY, we ask the active participants to cease their QSO. Ick!

73 de Bert
WA2SI

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: David Gilbert 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, 28 May 2017 12:48
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's 
business.


note : personal reply

Wow ... somebody writing an off topic post (it had nothing to do with 
Elecraft products) to complain about off topic posts.  Talk about 
dripping with irony.

Besides, it is a trivial exercise to speed read through the topic 
headers and delete the messages you don't want to see.  I mean really 
trivial.  I can scan through well over 100 messages messages per day 
from various lists in about thirty seconds.  You spent enough time 
writing your post and reading the responses to it to cover about a 
month's equivalent.

Your post merely sounds petulant.  Grow up.



On 5/27/2017 8:23 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> The list is pretty much turning into a captive audience for some tohawk their 
> wares and for others it has become a bit of a soap boxdroning on about off 
> topic subjects for far longer than they need to be.
> It's one thing to post a short for sale and respond off list for a personal 
> sale.
> But some selling commercially are using this list as a captive audience.
> (I tend to view them pretty much the same as I do any other spammer.)
> What has happened with me before (and about to do the same) is I just 
> unsubscribefrom the list completely and only very occasionally visit the 
> Elecraft web page.
> Sadly that inadvertently turns into me just taking my business elsewhere.
> When I'm looking for a project or a new toy Elecraft falls into being
> just one more face in the crowd instead of being at the top of the list.
> So I wind up spending my money elsewhere and then when I finallydo look at 
> Elecrafts page and see a new toy I don't buy it becauseI've already gotten a 
> new toy from another vendor.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for Elecraft's business.

[David Gow]

As a relatively new owner of an Elecraft KX3  and all related accessories
this list has been of immense help to me.  It is far more interesting and
well behaved than some other ham lists I read.  When I did sell an Elecraft
manufactured accessory it sold in one hour.at my stated fair price  and I
felt good about not selling it on a n auction site.

73,  Dave W7VM

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Bert Craig  wrote:

> I agree 100%! It's really a form of bullying censorship. Learn how to set
> up rules in your e-mail client. Failing that, use the 'Del' key. Geez!
>
> Imagine coming across a QSO ota that we don't want to participate in.
> Rather than QSY, we ask the active participants to cease their QSO. Ick!
>
> 73 de Bert
> WA2SI
>
> Sent from my android device.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Gilbert 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sun, 28 May 2017 12:48
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List overload - It's actually not good for
> Elecraft's business.
>
>
> note : personal reply
>
> Wow ... somebody writing an off topic post (it had nothing to do with
> Elecraft products) to complain about off topic posts.  Talk about
> dripping with irony.
>
> Besides, it is a trivial exercise to speed read through the topic
> headers and delete the messages you don't want to see.  I mean really
> trivial.  I can scan through well over 100 messages messages per day
> from various lists in about thirty seconds.  You spent enough time
> writing your post and reading the responses to it to cover about a
> month's equivalent.
>
> Your post merely sounds petulant.  Grow up.
>
>
>
> On 5/27/2017 8:23 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> > The list is pretty much turning into a captive audience for some tohawk
> their wares and for others it has become a bit of a soap boxdroning on
> about off topic subjects for far longer than they need to be.
> > It's one thing to post a short for sale and respond off list for a
> personal sale.
> > But some selling commercially are using this list as a captive audience.
> > (I tend to view them pretty much the same as I do any other spammer.)
> > What has happened with me before (and about to do the same) is I just
> unsubscribefrom the list completely and only very occasionally visit the
> Elecraft web page.
> > Sadly that inadvertently turns into me just taking my business elsewhere.
> > When I'm looking for a project or a new toy Elecraft falls into being
> > just one more face in the crowd instead of being at the top of the list.
> > So I wind up spending my money elsewhere and then when I finallydo look
> at Elecrafts page and see a new toy I don't buy it becauseI've already
> gotten a new toy from another vendor.
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[Matt Zilmer]

Try LP Bridge?  That's works well here.

73,

matt W6NIA


On 3/1/2017 9:31 AM, buddy s wrote:

i have a laptop, win 10, usb cabled to my k3, and the com port is
identified as com3.  i would like to use ham radio deluxe and logic
simultaneously.

if someone has a similar situation and solved the problem i would
appreciate the details.  i have tried VSPE, unsuccessfully.

thanks, es

73 de
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

Maybe try OmniRig by VE3NEA ?  It allows all
supported programs to share the serial port of the K3 at the same time.

Both Ham Radio Deluxe Bridge and Logic 9 are listed as compatible.  But,
perhaps it doesn't work with the latest version of HRD?

http://dxatlas.com/OmniRig/CompatibleSoft.txt

http://wd5eae.org/Software.html  - "OmniRig / Ham Radio Deluxe Bridge (for
HRD 3.x/4.x)"

There are other solutions such as the microHAM controllers that provide two
virtual serial ports per radio.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM, buddy s  wrote:

> i have a laptop, win 10, usb cabled to my k3, and the com port is
> identified as com3.  i would like to use ham radio deluxe and logic
> simultaneously.
>
> if someone has a similar situation and solved the problem i would
> appreciate the details.  i have tried VSPE, unsuccessfully.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[Dave Fugleberg]

I've been playing with Win4K3 Suite lately... Among (many) other things, it
allows up to four different programs to think they are all connected
directly to the same K3 st the same time. I've been testing it with DXLab
Commander and N1MM+.
Both programs lead and follow the radio - in other words, I can change
frequency, mode, etc on the radio, in Win4K3, N1MM, or commander, and all
of the others change with it.
73 de W0ZF

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:49 AM Matt Zilmer  wrote:

Try LP Bridge?  That's works well here.

73,

matt W6NIA


On 3/1/2017 9:31 AM, buddy s wrote:
> i have a laptop, win 10, usb cabled to my k3, and the com port is
> identified as com3.  i would like to use ham radio deluxe and logic
> simultaneously.
>
> if someone has a similar situation and solved the problem i would
> appreciate the details.  i have tried VSPE, unsuccessfully.
>
> thanks, es
>
> 73 de
> W3BS, Buddy Spiegel
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Another vote to LP  Bridge


  From: Matt Zilmer 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with 
k3 and a laptop with only com3
   
Try LP Bridge?  That's works well here.

73,

matt W6NIA


On 3/1/2017 9:31 AM, buddy s wrote:
> i have a laptop, win 10, usb cabled to my k3, and the com port is
> identified as com3.  i would like to use ham radio deluxe and logic
> simultaneously.
>
> if someone has a similar situation and solved the problem i would
> appreciate the details.  i have tried VSPE, unsuccessfully.
>
> thanks, es
>
> 73 de
> W3BS, Buddy Spiegel
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[Tim Tucker]

I have used LP Bridge in the past but found that it crashed too often to
suit my tastes.  I am currently using VSPE 64 bit on two machines (for the
past 2 years) without any problems.

Tim

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM, buddy s  wrote:

> i have a laptop, win 10, usb cabled to my k3, and the com port is
> identified as com3.  i would like to use ham radio deluxe and logic
> simultaneously.
>
> if someone has a similar situation and solved the problem i would
> appreciate the details.  i have tried VSPE, unsuccessfully.
>
> thanks, es
>
> 73 de
> W3BS, Buddy Spiegel
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[M. George]

I used LP-Bridge for many years and never was satisfied with the
reliability... plus the time it takes to create the virtual ports was
always irritating to me. It is pretty good and the price sure is right
however!

I have switched to Win4K3Suite with com0com for the CAT sharing of the
K3(s) and it has been rock solid.  As others have mentioned, you can share
the K3 CAT interface with up to 4 other applications and the lastest
version of Win4K3Suite also adds 3 or 4 (off the top of my head) read only
interfaces that you can use... i.e. like an SDA100 SteppIR controller or an
Amplifier that will track the transceiver frequency.  VSPE looks pretty
good, but the license feed for the signed 64 bit version is ~$25 and that
gets you half way to the cost of Win4K3Suite... Win4K3WSuite in and of
itself is really nice.  The more I use it, the more I like it... for
example, pre defined RX EQ settings are so nice where you can just push a
button and change the EQ settings on the K3 in a few seconds and if you are
tweaking the EQ settings, you get to hear things live without having to
leave the Config menu.  Anyway, I'm really like the spectrum display to in
combination with an LP-PAN2.  It's become the replacement to NaP3.  It's
all together just a much more reliable solution than LP-Bridge and NaP3
IMHO.  I can't live without my LP-PAN2 by the way... but now I no longer
need to deal with LP-Bridge and Win4K3Suite starts right up with no delay
where the com0com ports are created when Windows 10 starts up.

Max NG7M

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Tim Tucker  wrote:

> I have used LP Bridge in the past but found that it crashed too often to
> suit my tastes.  I am currently using VSPE 64 bit on two machines (for the
> past 2 years) without any problems.
>
> Tim
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM, buddy s  wrote:
>
> > i have a laptop, win 10, usb cabled to my k3, and the com port is
> > identified as com3.  i would like to use ham radio deluxe and logic
> > simultaneously.
> >
> > if someone has a similar situation and solved the problem i would
> > appreciate the details.  i have tried VSPE, unsuccessfully.
> >
> > thanks, es
> >
> > 73 de
> > W3BS, Buddy Spiegel
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[N2TK, Tony]

I have been using LP-Bridge since its inception without major issues.
I had tried Win4K3Suite one day. I did not spend much time with it, but two
things didn't seem right. Maybe I just didn't know what I was doing though.
It seemed each time I started the program I lost the equalizer settings and
had to reenter them.
Also there was an issue about the resolution had to be set to 3 decimal
places. I would rather have the resolution to two decimal places for CW and
for SSB depending if I am running or just going up and down the band I want
to have 1 or two decimal places. 
And again, maybe I just didn't know what I was doing. And since LP-Bridge
handles all of my devices fine I didn't get too serious with Win4K3Suite. I
have the P3 with external monitor so not too interested in another band
scope.  
The one thing I can't seem to do with LP-Bridge is have the Acom 2000A track
my K3's receive frequency in order to pretune. I have N4PY's program doing
that in the background.

Tell me I didn't do things correctly and that if I set up Win4K3Suite
properly I  can just start the program and it will start my other interface
programs such as N1MM+, DXBase, AXETTY,  like LP-Bride and be seamless.

73,
N2TK, Tony

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of M.
George
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 8:36 PM
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic
with k3 and a laptop with only com3

I used LP-Bridge for many years and never was satisfied with the
reliability... plus the time it takes to create the virtual ports was always
irritating to me. It is pretty good and the price sure is right however!

I have switched to Win4K3Suite with com0com for the CAT sharing of the
K3(s) and it has been rock solid.  As others have mentioned, you can share
the K3 CAT interface with up to 4 other applications and the lastest version
of Win4K3Suite also adds 3 or 4 (off the top of my head) read only
interfaces that you can use... i.e. like an SDA100 SteppIR controller or an
Amplifier that will track the transceiver frequency.  VSPE looks pretty
good, but the license feed for the signed 64 bit version is ~$25 and that
gets you half way to the cost of Win4K3Suite... Win4K3WSuite in and of
itself is really nice.  The more I use it, the more I like it... for
example, pre defined RX EQ settings are so nice where you can just push a
button and change the EQ settings on the K3 in a few seconds and if you are
tweaking the EQ settings, you get to hear things live without having to
leave the Config menu.  Anyway, I'm really like the spectrum display to in
combination with an LP-PAN2.  It's become the replacement to NaP3.  It's all
together just a much more reliable solution than LP-Bridge and NaP3 IMHO.  I
can't live without my LP-PAN2 by the way... but now I no longer need to deal
with LP-Bridge and Win4K3Suite starts right up with no delay where the
com0com ports are created when Windows 10 starts up.

Max NG7M

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Tim Tucker  wrote:

> I have used LP Bridge in the past but found that it crashed too often 
> to suit my tastes.  I am currently using VSPE 64 bit on two machines 
> (for the past 2 years) without any problems.
>
> Tim
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM, buddy s  wrote:
>
> > i have a laptop, win 10, usb cabled to my k3, and the com port is 
> > identified as com3.  i would like to use ham radio deluxe and logic 
> > simultaneously.
> >
> > if someone has a similar situation and solved the problem i would 
> > appreciate the details.  i have tried VSPE, unsuccessfully.
> >
> > thanks, es
> >
> > 73 de
> > W3BS, Buddy Spiegel
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[M. George]

Hi Tony, first off I can help you with LP-Bridge sending data to your ACOM
2000a.  In LP-Bridge, the read only outputs are hard coded to the kenwood
protocol at 4800 baud.  So you can use LP-Bridge to get your ACOM 2000a to
track your K3 if you set the ACOM 2000A to Kenwood on the radio interface.
I had this configured and working on Jim's W7CT's setup a few months back.
I exchanged a few emails with Larry N8LP and he pointed out the hard coded
Kenwood / 4800 baud protocol on the output option in LP-Bridge.

Like you I didn't get excited about Win4K3Suite at first and I too saw the
RX eq settings reset.  But after thinking through it, I love the RX eq
settings being controlled by Win4K3Suite now.  There is no way to do that
from a K3 macro as far as I know... on the RX side.  So with Win4K3Suite,
you can store RX eq presents and switch between them on the fly AND you can
change the RX eq settings in real-time and hear the change, you can't do
this via the Config menu.

It does take a few seconds for Win4K3Suite to manipulate the RX eq settings
because it's doing some tricks to change the settings on the fly.

The reason Win4K3Suite resets the eq settings is because there is no way to
read the settings from the K3 to store them in the first place... so it
resets the settings for TX and RX eq at start up and then once you change
them in W4K3S and exit Win4K3Suite it stores them in the Win4K3Suite config
on disk... so then the next time you start up, it restores the settings to
your K3.  I was annoyed by this until I read Tom's FAQ here:
http://va2fsq.com/faq/  Then the light turned on.  There is no way to read
settings from the K3 eq, so to externalize this, Tom is working around that
limitation.  Once you set them up in W4K3S you are golden.  And it's a
major bonus to changes those on the fly as I have described.  BTW, I'm just
a happy user of W4K3S if you are wondering... I have no reason to try and
tout it other than I have been happy with the updates and support.

Even if you don't use the spectrum display in W4K3S, based on my many year
experience with LP-Bridge and NaP3, I still think it's well worth it on how
it shares the K3 CAT data.  It has been totally reliable too...

Anyway, give it another try and play around with the multiple and
dynamic UI settings for the eq in your K3.

Max NG7M



On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:06 PM, N2TK, Tony  wrote:

> I have been using LP-Bridge since its inception without major issues.
> I had tried Win4K3Suite one day. I did not spend much time with it, but two
> things didn't seem right. Maybe I just didn't know what I was doing though.
> It seemed each time I started the program I lost the equalizer settings and
> had to reenter them.
> Also there was an issue about the resolution had to be set to 3 decimal
> places. I would rather have the resolution to two decimal places for CW and
> for SSB depending if I am running or just going up and down the band I want
> to have 1 or two decimal places.
> And again, maybe I just didn't know what I was doing. And since LP-Bridge
> handles all of my devices fine I didn't get too serious with Win4K3Suite. I
> have the P3 with external monitor so not too interested in another band
> scope.
> The one thing I can't seem to do with LP-Bridge is have the Acom 2000A
> track
> my K3's receive frequency in order to pretune. I have N4PY's program doing
> that in the background.
>
> Tell me I didn't do things correctly and that if I set up Win4K3Suite
> properly I  can just start the program and it will start my other interface
> programs such as N1MM+, DXBase, AXETTY,  like LP-Bride and be seamless.
>
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of M.
> George
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 8:36 PM
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic
> with k3 and a laptop with only com3
>
> I used LP-Bridge for many years and never was satisfied with the
> reliability... plus the time it takes to create the virtual ports was
> always
> irritating to me. It is pretty good and the price sure is right however!
>
> I have switched to Win4K3Suite with com0com for the CAT sharing of the
> K3(s) and it has been rock solid.  As others have mentioned, you can share
> the K3 CAT interface with up to 4 other applications and the lastest
> version
> of Win4K3Suite also adds 3 or 4 (off the top of my head) read only
> interfaces that you can use... i.e. like an SDA100 SteppIR controller or an
> Amplifier that will track the transceiver frequency.  VSPE looks pretty
> good, but the license feed for the signed 64 bit version is ~$25 and that
> gets you half way to the cost of Win4K3Suite... Win4K3WS

Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[N2TK, Tony]

Max,

Tnx for the info. When I get home will check out the Acom/LP-Bridge interface.

 

I have both K3’s set up similarly – one set of settings for CW and one set for 
SSB, which the K3 remembers. I have not changed them in a long time and see no 
reason to change them frequently. Both rigs are set up for contesting and DXing.

LP-Bridge gas been very reliable. Looks like I may stay with it for now once I 
get the Acom setup with it. Yes, once I send a dit the Acom will setup, but I 
like the idea that it is tracking my receiver.

 

73,

N2TK/NP2 (KP2M), Tony

 

From: M. George [mailto:m.matthew.geo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 8:38 PM
To: N2TK, Tony 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with 
k3 and a laptop with only com3

 

Hi Tony, first off I can help you with LP-Bridge sending data to your ACOM 
2000a.  In LP-Bridge, the read only outputs are hard coded to the kenwood 
protocol at 4800 baud.  So you can use LP-Bridge to get your ACOM 2000a to 
track your K3 if you set the ACOM 2000A to Kenwood on the radio interface.  I 
had this configured and working on Jim's W7CT's setup a few months back.  I 
exchanged a few emails with Larry N8LP and he pointed out the hard coded 
Kenwood / 4800 baud protocol on the output option in LP-Bridge.

 

Like you I didn't get excited about Win4K3Suite at first and I too saw the RX 
eq settings reset.  But after thinking through it, I love the RX eq settings 
being controlled by Win4K3Suite now.  There is no way to do that from a K3 
macro as far as I know... on the RX side.  So with Win4K3Suite, you can store 
RX eq presents and switch between them on the fly AND you can change the RX eq 
settings in real-time and hear the change, you can't do this via the Config 
menu.

 

It does take a few seconds for Win4K3Suite to manipulate the RX eq settings 
because it's doing some tricks to change the settings on the fly.

 

The reason Win4K3Suite resets the eq settings is because there is no way to 
read the settings from the K3 to store them in the first place... so it resets 
the settings for TX and RX eq at start up and then once you change them in 
W4K3S and exit Win4K3Suite it stores them in the Win4K3Suite config on disk... 
so then the next time you start up, it restores the settings to your K3.  I was 
annoyed by this until I read Tom's FAQ here: http://va2fsq.com/faq/  Then the 
light turned on.  There is no way to read settings from the K3 eq, so to 
externalize this, Tom is working around that limitation.  Once you set them up 
in W4K3S you are golden.  And it's a major bonus to changes those on the fly as 
I have described.  BTW, I'm just a happy user of W4K3S if you are wondering... 
I have no reason to try and tout it other than I have been happy with the 
updates and support.

 

Even if you don't use the spectrum display in W4K3S, based on my many year 
experience with LP-Bridge and NaP3, I still think it's well worth it on how it 
shares the K3 CAT data.  It has been totally reliable too...

 

Anyway, give it another try and play around with the multiple and dynamic 
UI settings for the eq in your K3.  

 

Max NG7M

 

 

 

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:06 PM, N2TK, Tony mailto:tony@verizon.net> > wrote:

I have been using LP-Bridge since its inception without major issues.
I had tried Win4K3Suite one day. I did not spend much time with it, but two
things didn't seem right. Maybe I just didn't know what I was doing though.
It seemed each time I started the program I lost the equalizer settings and
had to reenter them.
Also there was an issue about the resolution had to be set to 3 decimal
places. I would rather have the resolution to two decimal places for CW and
for SSB depending if I am running or just going up and down the band I want
to have 1 or two decimal places.
And again, maybe I just didn't know what I was doing. And since LP-Bridge
handles all of my devices fine I didn't get too serious with Win4K3Suite. I
have the P3 with external monitor so not too interested in another band
scope.
The one thing I can't seem to do with LP-Bridge is have the Acom 2000A track
my K3's receive frequency in order to pretune. I have N4PY's program doing
that in the background.

Tell me I didn't do things correctly and that if I set up Win4K3Suite
properly I  can just start the program and it will start my other interface
programs such as N1MM+, DXBase, AXETTY,  like LP-Bride and be seamless.

73,
N2TK, Tony

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Cc: Elecraft Reflector mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic
with k3 and a laptop with only com3

I used L