Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-15 Thread Hector Padron
Jack W5TMZ send me any picture you want to post and I will do it within my own 
webpage in the same folder all the ones are now together with the movies,I will 
put a note that they are yours.
 
AD4C
 


For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3

--- On Mon, 2/15/10, David Dunn vk3...@gmail.com wrote:


From: David Dunn vk3...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 7:19 AM


I've been reading all thess requests about Panadaptors,    not really
knowing what they are.. but guessed of course. Now All is revealed;
But personally I cant see much use for one,  I tune the radio across the
band and listen for signals as I always have done!!
Seriously it probably would be a nice toy to have, but all I want is my K3
to work properly -  Oh dear I seem to get all the problems being one of
their most distant customers.

73  David     -  in   Antipodean backwaters.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Jack Colson jcols...@tampabay.rr.comwrote:

 I have a good photo of the P3 taken early this morning but have no site
 to post.  I will be glad to forward it to someone who can post it to a
 link for all to see.  Eric was quite familiar with the buttons and
 knobs.
 73
 Jack, W3TMZ

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-15 Thread juergen
Hi Hector


Is the maximum displayed bandwidth on the P3 100khz as discussed in the video?


John

--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 4:05 AM
 Jack W5TMZ send me any picture you
 want to post and I will do it within my own webpage in the
 same folder all the ones are now together with the movies,I
 will put a note that they are yours.
  
 AD4C
  
 
 
 For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3
 
 --- On Mon, 2/15/10, David Dunn vk3...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 From: David Dunn vk3...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 7:19 AM
 
 
 I've been reading all thess requests about Panadaptors, 
   not really
 knowing what they are.. but guessed of course. Now All
 is revealed;
 But personally I cant see much use for one,  I tune the
 radio across the
 band and listen for signals as I always have
 done!!
 Seriously it probably would be a nice toy to have, but all
 I want is my K3
 to work properly -  Oh dear I seem to get all the problems
 being one of
 their most distant customers.
 
 73  David     -  in   Antipodean backwaters.
 
 On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Jack Colson jcols...@tampabay.rr.comwrote:
 
  I have a good photo of the P3 taken early this morning
 but have no site
  to post.  I will be glad to forward it to someone who
 can post it to a
  link for all to see.  Eric was quite familiar with
 the buttons and
  knobs.
  73
  Jack, W3TMZ
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-15 Thread Lyle Johnson

 Is the maximum displayed bandwidth on the P3 100khz as discussed in the video?
   

+/- 100 kHz, thus 200 kHz of spectrum at maximum width.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-15 Thread gdaught6
David wrote...

 snip 

 But personally I cant see much use for one,  I tune the radio across the
 band and listen for signals as I always have done!!

That's what I thought when I got my Icom 756 ProII.  But pretty soon, I found I 
was 
actually using it to some advantage.  The radio wasn't up to K3 standards, but 
the 
panadapter (also not up to what the P3 looks capable of) became a desirable 
part of 
the transceiver package.

73,

George T Daughters, K6GT
CU in the California QSO Party (CQP)
October 2-3, 2010


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-15 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Currently +/- 100 kHz (200 kHz total Span width.)

2 kHz minimum span.

We plan to also add even wider spans by concatenating multiple 200 kHz 
scans onto 1 screen. Mostly useful for watching wider bands like 10M for 
activity.

I find I personally use +/- 25 kHz or less on CW and +/- 50 to 75 kHz on 
SSB.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ



On 2/15/2010 4:11 AM, juergen wrote:
 Is the maximum displayed bandwidth on the P3 100khz as discussed in the video?

 John
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-14 Thread pd0psb

Its the release date 62nd juli 2014.

kidding, on top I see an official handwritten: mid/end april!

73'
Paul
PD0PSB

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-14 Thread Alan Bloom
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 19:25 -0500, Edward Dickinson, III wrote:
 14.62.8..?

That bug has already been fixed.  (Eric didn't have the latest firmware
in his box.)

:=)

Alan N1AL

 
 73,
 Dick - KA5KKT


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-14 Thread David Dunn
I've been reading all thess requests about Panadaptors,not really
knowing what they are.. but guessed of course. Now All is revealed;
But personally I cant see much use for one,  I tune the radio across the
band and listen for signals as I always have done!!
Seriously it probably would be a nice toy to have, but all I want is my K3
to work properly -  Oh dear I seem to get all the problems being one of
their most distant customers.

73  David -  in   Antipodean backwaters.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Jack Colson jcols...@tampabay.rr.comwrote:

 I have a good photo of the P3 taken early this morning but have no site
 to post.  I will be glad to forward it to someone who can post it to a
 link for all to see.  Eric was quite familiar with the buttons and
 knobs.
 73
 Jack, W3TMZ

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-13 Thread WW2PT
See Jack's photo at:

http://www.ww2pt.com/2010/02/elecraft-p3-panadapter-at-orlando.html

73 de WW2PT


On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Jack Colson wrote:

 I have a good photo of the P3 taken early this morning but have no  
 site
 to post.  I will be glad to forward it to someone who can post it to a
 link for all to see.  Eric was quite familiar with the buttons and
 knobs.
 73
 Jack, W3TMZ

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-13 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
14.62.8..?


73,
Dick - KA5KKT


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo taken at Orlando

2010-02-13 Thread Bruce Beford
Dick KA5KKT wrote:

 14.62.8..?


Clearly- early beta firmware needs some tweaks. My guess is that this should
probably have read 14.062.8 Nothing like good lively, pre-release product
debate, huh?


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-17 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Steve Ellington wrote:

 photo it appears that the display is not averaging the signals as Flex 
 SDR. The QRN appears as little signals. With the Flex SDR- LP Pan, QRN 
 moves the entire base line up and down slowly but doesn't seem to appear 
 as a mess of little peaks, masking the actual CW signal. That's the 
 amazing thing about the I/Q system. I wonder if the P3 has the same 

Averaging across multiple FFTs isn't related to whether or not I and Q 
feeds are used.  Using I/Q feeds is just a way of running the A/D 
convertors at half the speed for the same overall bandwidth (although at 
the cost of having two A/D convertors, two mixers and more complex local 
oscillator circuitry).  I think it also reduces the DSP power required 
by about a factor of two, as one solves for both positive and negative 
frequencies, whereas the negative frequencies from a single mixer are 
the same as the positive ones and are just thrown away at the end of the 
processing.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-17 Thread JIM DAVIS
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:20:55 -0700
  Rick Tavan N6XI rta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hmm. We may have a religious issue here. I was delighted to see the P3
 positioned on the left BECAUSE I am right-handed. I send CW with my right
 hand and adjust the primary radio with my left hand. Stuff located on the
 right side of the panel (or to the right of the panel) must be adjusted
 while obscuring most of the panel.
 
 I suspect, however, that the P3 will come with sufficiently long cables to
 be placed on either side.
 
 /Rick N6XI
 
 On 8/15/09, W6NEK w6...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 My first reaction to seeing the P3 was that its front panel layout is
 presently designed for it to be located on the LEFT side of the K3.  I know
 all the left handed people out there will say that's fine but as a rightie
 I
 disagree.  Placing it on the left of the K3 it sits next to the front panel
 Mic and Phone connectors (with associated cables).

 __
Rick,

Even in HAM radio there's party-divisions, can't we have more 
consensus-builders?

There's the Left-faction  there's the Right-faction we Middle-roaders 
deserve to be 
considered
as well by Elecraft as far as the up  coming P3 is concerned!

They should mount ALL rear connectors  jacks EQUAL DISTANCE from both sides 
of the unit!

That way EVERYBODY'S HAPPY?  :-)))

Quote from Mr. Rodney King: Can't we all get along together!

Jim/nn6ee
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

 stuff available) switching supply that..
 
 2) is completely noiseless at RF frequencies.

Not physically possible for a switching supply; you need to specify 
acceptable, non-zero levels of RF noise.

 3) has a sense lead to the 13V bus *inside* the K3 and maintains a perfect
 voltage to the K3, regardless of some additional loads (like my 10W K3)

Why?  Surely the K3 is designed to be tolerant of battery voltage 
variations.

 4) has a separate connection(s) to a battery(s), which it uses as INPUT to
 the switching supply and draws from automatically and seamlessly if the AC
 drops.

This and the following seem to be more like the requirements for a 
commercial use UPS (as against domestic use ones).

 8) completely RF proof and can't be queered by RF in the shack.

Again, not physically possible, for any piece of electronics; you need 
to specify acceptable levels.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Paul Christensen
Although the P3 product is still in development,  it looks like a very 
attractive and functional matching accessory for the K3.  A few questions:

-  What is the typical MDS seen on the display?
-  Is a low-noise, unity-gain buffer w/ BPF utilized at the I.F. input?
-  Assuming it's powered from the K3 or alternate +12VDC source, what is the 
measured amount of current (thinking ahead for portable operation)?
- Any photos of the tentative back panel available?

Although I probably would have opted for a stand-alone black box device 
(and hoping that may be an alternate version one day), I can see the 
marketing logic where a large number of potential purchasers are looking for 
a transceiver with a built-in panadapter.  Even though the P3 is a 
stand-alone unit, it appears to be well-integrated with the K3 to give it a 
built-in look and feel.  This should put the K3 in the running for buyers 
who would otherwise purchase the K3 but for the fact that it lacks a 
built-in panadapter.

Paul, W9AC 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello,

where is a link to see the P3? 

I am in www.elecraft.com but not find photos of the P3.

73,
Jorge
CX6VM

-Mensaje original-
De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Paul Christensen
Enviado el: Domingo, 16 de Agosto de 2009 08:37 a.m.
Para: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

Although the P3 product is still in development,  it looks like a very
attractive and functional matching accessory for the K3.  A few questions:

-  What is the typical MDS seen on the display?
-  Is a low-noise, unity-gain buffer w/ BPF utilized at the I.F. input?
-  Assuming it's powered from the K3 or alternate +12VDC source, what is the
measured amount of current (thinking ahead for portable operation)?
- Any photos of the tentative back panel available?

Although I probably would have opted for a stand-alone black box device
(and hoping that may be an alternate version one day), I can see the
marketing logic where a large number of potential purchasers are looking for
a transceiver with a built-in panadapter.  Even though the P3 is a
stand-alone unit, it appears to be well-integrated with the K3 to give it a
built-in look and feel.  This should put the K3 in the running for buyers
who would otherwise purchase the K3 but for the fact that it lacks a
built-in panadapter.

Paul, W9AC 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Paul Christensen
I don't think the question has been asked, so...

Does the P3 digitally-sample the 8 MHz I.F. immediately at its input (i.e. 
akin to the SDR-IQ), or is a mixer architecture used to convert the I.F. to 
baseband sampling for the spectrum and waterfall displays?

Paul, W9AC



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread dave . wilburn
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/pics/P3%20w%20K3%20a.JPG

David Wilburn
NM4M 
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-Original Message-
From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM cx6vm.jo...@adinet.com.uy

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:04:34 
To: 'Paul Christensen'w...@arrl.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo


Hello,

where is a link to see the P3? 

I am in www.elecraft.com but not find photos of the P3.

73,
Jorge
CX6VM

-Mensaje original-
De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Paul Christensen
Enviado el: Domingo, 16 de Agosto de 2009 08:37 a.m.
Para: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

Although the P3 product is still in development,  it looks like a very
attractive and functional matching accessory for the K3.  A few questions:

-  What is the typical MDS seen on the display?
-  Is a low-noise, unity-gain buffer w/ BPF utilized at the I.F. input?
-  Assuming it's powered from the K3 or alternate +12VDC source, what is the
measured amount of current (thinking ahead for portable operation)?
- Any photos of the tentative back panel available?

Although I probably would have opted for a stand-alone black box device
(and hoping that may be an alternate version one day), I can see the
marketing logic where a large number of potential purchasers are looking for
a transceiver with a built-in panadapter.  Even though the P3 is a
stand-alone unit, it appears to be well-integrated with the K3 to give it a
built-in look and feel.  This should put the K3 in the running for buyers
who would otherwise purchase the K3 but for the fact that it lacks a
built-in panadapter.

Paul, W9AC 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Steve Ellington
From the photo it appears that the display is not averaging the signals as 
Flex SDR. The QRN appears as little signals. With the Flex SDR- LP Pan, QRN 
moves the entire base line up and down slowly but doesn't seem to appear as 
a mess of little peaks, masking the actual CW signal. That's the amazing 
thing about the I/Q system. I wonder if the P3 has the same capability or 
does it resemble a more refined version of ICOM's scope?
Steve
N4LQ
n...@carolina.rr.com
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From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo


I don't think the question has been asked, so...

 Does the P3 digitally-sample the 8 MHz I.F. immediately at its input (i.e.
 akin to the SDR-IQ), or is a mixer architecture used to convert the I.F. 
 to
 baseband sampling for the spectrum and waterfall displays?

 Paul, W9AC



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Eric Swartz -WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Just wasn't turned on. We can average multiple samples (# settable by 
user)  for s/n improvement etc.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ


Steve Ellington wrote:
 From the photo it appears that the display is not averaging the signals as 
 Flex SDR. The QRN appears as little signals. With the Flex SDR- LP Pan, QRN 
 moves the entire base line up and down slowly but doesn't seem to appear as 
 a mess of little peaks, masking the actual CW signal. That's the amazing 
 thing about the I/Q system. I wonder if the P3 has the same capability or 
 does it resemble a more refined version of ICOM's scope?
 Steve
 N4LQ
 n...@carolina.rr.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo


   
 I don't think the question has been asked, so...

 Does the P3 digitally-sample the 8 MHz I.F. immediately at its input (i.e.
 akin to the SDR-IQ), or is a mixer architecture used to convert the I.F. 
 to
 baseband sampling for the spectrum and waterfall displays?

 Paul, W9AC



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Paul Christensen
 a mess of little peaks, masking the actual CW signal. That's the amazing 
 thing about the I/Q system. I wonder if the P3 has the same capability or 
 does it resemble a more refined version of ICOM's scope?

Here's what's interesting:

If the P3 does in fact use a quadrature mixer post I.F. buffer amp (and not 
directly digital-sampled like the SDR-IQ), that means all the hooks are in 
place to feed its I/Q outputs to a premium sound card and of 
course...PowerSDR as an alternate display and decoder.  All it takes is a 
couple I/Q audio jacks on the P3's rear panel if they're not there already 
(wink wink).

Paul, W9AC
 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Sanger, Joseph
I would greatly prefer the capability to use PowerSDR and P3 simultaneously.

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Christensen
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:48 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

 a mess of little peaks, masking the actual CW signal. That's the amazing 
 thing about the I/Q system. I wonder if the P3 has the same capability or 
 does it resemble a more refined version of ICOM's scope?

Here's what's interesting:

If the P3 does in fact use a quadrature mixer post I.F. buffer amp (and not 
directly digital-sampled like the SDR-IQ), that means all the hooks are in 
place to feed its I/Q outputs to a premium sound card and of 
course...PowerSDR as an alternate display and decoder.  All it takes is a 
couple I/Q audio jacks on the P3's rear panel if they're not there already 
(wink wink).

Paul, W9AC
 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Are there any provisions made for displaying the signal from the 2nd
RX?  Is there interest in this capability?

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Sanger, Joseph
Absolutely interest on my part!

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Are there any provisions made for displaying the signal from the 2nd
RX?  Is there interest in this capability?

73, doug

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread Merv Schweigert
David Woolley (E.L) wrote:
 Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

   
 stuff available) switching supply that..

 2) is completely noiseless at RF frequencies.
 

 Not physically possible for a switching supply; you need to specify 
 acceptable, non-zero levels of RF noise.

   
Absolutely correct Guy,  I followed the long thread a while back about
power supplies to try and learn what others had done to help with
switchers.  I find it true as you say its impossible,  one can only 
bring the
switcher noise down to some acceptable level,  with many beads and
by pass caps etc I finally have the noise down almost to the point it
is covered by antenna noise on each band. 
Some supplies it was not possible to do that even.  The P3 will open a
lot of eyes as to what is really power supply broad band noise and
what is real atmospheric noise.  It will show that up quite well. 
Maybe some hams will find their s5 and higher noise levels are self
generated and be able to lower that by several DB.  A whole new
world of DX will await.
Or just go back to a old heavy transformer type supply and be almost
noise free. 
73 Merv KH7C
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread David Gilbert

That's what I've been lobbying for.   The P3 with I/Q outputs, 400 KHz 
bandwidth, and computer control (via the K3 or direct) would have 
powerful SDR capabilities with all kinds of potential third party 
applications.  Without the I/Q outputs, it's a very expensive dedicated 
display.

Possibly Elecraft yet has some version of that in mind, but with all the 
fuss I've raised on the topic I would have expected some indication if 
they did.

Oh well ...

73,
Dave   AB7E



Paul Christensen wrote:
 Here's what's interesting:

 If the P3 does in fact use a quadrature mixer post I.F. buffer amp (and not 
 directly digital-sampled like the SDR-IQ), that means all the hooks are in 
 place to feed its I/Q outputs to a premium sound card and of 
 course...PowerSDR as an alternate display and decoder.  All it takes is a 
 couple I/Q audio jacks on the P3's rear panel if they're not there already 
 (wink wink).

 Paul, W9AC
  

   
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread K6TFZ
Wayne said that it began working last Wednesday night.
It is presently set at a refresh rate of ~6/sec and he said 
it could easily go to 20. Current draw is presently about
250ma but with a few more accessories he has planned
could go to 300ma. He also said that the font presently in
there is quite small and that a larger one is planned.
They roughed it together for the show. (Nice roughing!)
Geoff, K6TFZ

Anyone have a phone that can take video?  I'd like to see
how fast it updates.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-16 Thread K3PIN

Nice photo. I may have to sell my LP-Pan set up and try the P3.

Is there a MSRP yet $   ???

Steve-K3PIN


On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 17:16 -0400, Don Nesbitt wrote:
 Received a direct reply to my earlier post regarding a photo.  Thanks to
 John N6AX for forwarding the photo.  Someone will likely have a better
 photo
 to share but this gives us an idea of what the prototype looks like. 
 
 See the photo at:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/n4hh/
 
 The link should work by just clicking on it - no need to register, etc.
 Just click and enjoy!  Once there, click on the photo of the P3 and select
 a
 large size.
 
 Many thanks John!  73 -- Don N4HH
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:25 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 Panadapter Sneak Peek this Saturday
 
 OK - times up! It's after Noon out there! Surely there is someone at the
 hamfest with an iPhone, Blackberry or something else that can snap a photo
 and post it somewhere!  Or - did all the feedback cancel the showing?
 Please, do it now and put us out of our collective misery - please!  73 --
 Don N4HH K3/100 #83
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread Brett Howard
Thanks much Don...

Anyone have a phone that can take video?  I'd like to see how fast it
updates.

~Brett

On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 17:16 -0400, Don Nesbitt wrote:
 Received a direct reply to my earlier post regarding a photo.  Thanks to
 John N6AX for forwarding the photo.  Someone will likely have a better photo
 to share but this gives us an idea of what the prototype looks like. 
 
 See the photo at:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/n4hh/
 
 The link should work by just clicking on it - no need to register, etc.
 Just click and enjoy!  Once there, click on the photo of the P3 and select a
 large size.
 
 Many thanks John!  73 -- Don N4HH
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:25 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 Panadapter Sneak Peek this Saturday
 
 OK - times up! It's after Noon out there! Surely there is someone at the
 hamfest with an iPhone, Blackberry or something else that can snap a photo
 and post it somewhere!  Or - did all the feedback cancel the showing?
 Please, do it now and put us out of our collective misery - please!  73 --
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread W6NEK
My first reaction to seeing the P3 was that its front panel layout is 
presently designed for it to be located on the LEFT side of the K3.  I know 
all the left handed people out there will say that's fine but as a rightie I 
disagree.  Placing it on the left of the K3 it sits next to the front panel 
Mic and Phone connectors (with associated cables).  It also sits next to the 
left mounted carrying handle (scratches from existing handle mounting 
screws).  For me, this left side location forces me to shift the radio 7 
inches to the right of my seating position.  Guess I'm an old fart who 
expects various rig accessories (speakers, DMU's, scopes, etc) to be located 
on the right.  I'm sure someone will say that all I would have to do is move 
the unit to the right side.  However, the existing proto-type layout is not 
optimized for that location.  Perhaps Elecraft will entertain reversing 
(flip) the existing front panel layout to allow optimized right side 
location.  The only reason I can think of that may have prompted the P3's 
present location is the closer proximity to the IF Out/Accessory connectors, 
or all the designers at Elecraft are left handed ;-)

Nice hi-res display, 400 KHz max display span, matching K3 esthetics.  Going 
to be a very popular accessory for the K3.

73,
Frank - W6NEK

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread Mel Farrer
I'm a lefty, but like the display on the right.  Is there an adjustable sweep 
speed?? It is the only thing I don't like about the IC radios, fixed sweep 
rate.  When can I order one??

Mel, K6KBE

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, W6NEK w6...@socal.rr.com wrote:

From: W6NEK w6...@socal.rr.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 3:21 PM

My first reaction to seeing the P3 was that its front panel layout is 
presently designed for it to be located on the LEFT side of the K3.  I know 
all the left handed people out there will say that's fine but as a rightie I 
disagree.  Placing it on the left of the K3 it sits next to the front panel 
Mic and Phone connectors (with associated cables).  It also sits next to the 
left mounted carrying handle (scratches from existing handle mounting 
screws).  For me, this left side location forces me to shift the radio 7 
inches to the right of my seating position.  Guess I'm an old fart who 
expects various rig accessories (speakers, DMU's, scopes, etc) to be located 
on the right.  I'm sure someone will say that all I would have to do is move 
the unit to the right side.  However, the existing proto-type layout is not 
optimized for that location.  Perhaps Elecraft will entertain reversing 
(flip) the existing front panel layout to allow optimized right side 
location.  The only reason I can think of that may have prompted the P3's 
present location is the closer proximity to the IF Out/Accessory connectors, 
or all the designers at Elecraft are left handed ;-)

Nice hi-res display, 400 KHz max display span, matching K3 esthetics.  Going 
to be a very popular accessory for the K3.

73,
Frank - W6NEK

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Whoever it was that said it had the WOW factor, I AGREE, really nice, and 
great bandwidth.  Just WOW.  Only thing is that it looks like it wowed 
itself out of my price capability.  Any word on estimated price?  Hope not 
but I ws afraid of that anyway.

73, de Jim KG0KP

- Original Message - 
From: Don Nesbitt drnesb...@bellsouth.net
To: drnesb...@bellsouth.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:16 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Photo


 Received a direct reply to my earlier post regarding a photo.  Thanks to
 John N6AX for forwarding the photo.  Someone will likely have a better 
 photo
 to share but this gives us an idea of what the prototype looks like.

 See the photo at:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/n4hh/

 The link should work by just clicking on it - no need to register, etc.
 Just click and enjoy!  Once there, click on the photo of the P3 and select 
 a
 large size.

 Many thanks John!  73 -- Don N4HH

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:25 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 Panadapter Sneak Peek this Saturday

 OK - times up! It's after Noon out there! Surely there is someone at the
 hamfest with an iPhone, Blackberry or something else that can snap a photo
 and post it somewhere!  Or - did all the feedback cancel the showing?
 Please, do it now and put us out of our collective misery - please!  73 --
 Don N4HH K3/100 #83

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread Brett Howard
I don't see what you're talking about here at all..  Honestly looking at
that picture I see this thing as optimized for placement on the right
side of the K3.  That gives you easier access to the select knob and the
buttons along the right side.  Hell if all else fails you can set the
thing on top of the K3.  Just because something is set on the left side
doesn't mean its ergonomically designed to set there.  It would do
equally well on top of and to the right of the K3.  Bout the only thing
its not designed for is to sit below the K3.

~Brett (KC7OTG)

On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 15:21 -0700, W6NEK wrote:
 My first reaction to seeing the P3 was that its front panel layout is 
 presently designed for it to be located on the LEFT side of the K3.  I know 
 all the left handed people out there will say that's fine but as a rightie I 
 disagree.  Placing it on the left of the K3 it sits next to the front panel 
 Mic and Phone connectors (with associated cables).  It also sits next to the 
 left mounted carrying handle (scratches from existing handle mounting 
 screws).  For me, this left side location forces me to shift the radio 7 
 inches to the right of my seating position.  Guess I'm an old fart who 
 expects various rig accessories (speakers, DMU's, scopes, etc) to be located 
 on the right.  I'm sure someone will say that all I would have to do is move 
 the unit to the right side.  However, the existing proto-type layout is not 
 optimized for that location.  Perhaps Elecraft will entertain reversing 
 (flip) the existing front panel layout to allow optimized right side 
 location.  The only reason I can think of that may have prompted the P3's 
 present location is the closer proximity to the IF Out/Accessory connectors, 
 or all the designers at Elecraft are left handed ;-)
 
 Nice hi-res display, 400 KHz max display span, matching K3 esthetics.  Going 
 to be a very popular accessory for the K3.
 
 73,
 Frank - W6NEK
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread Brett Howard
I've been told to look in the 600 to 800 price range...


On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 17:44 -0500, Jim Miller KG0KP wrote:
 Whoever it was that said it had the WOW factor, I AGREE, really nice, and 
 great bandwidth.  Just WOW.  Only thing is that it looks like it wowed 
 itself out of my price capability.  Any word on estimated price?  Hope not 
 but I ws afraid of that anyway.
 
 73, de Jim KG0KP
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Don Nesbitt drnesb...@bellsouth.net
 To: drnesb...@bellsouth.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:16 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Photo
 
 
  Received a direct reply to my earlier post regarding a photo.  Thanks to
  John N6AX for forwarding the photo.  Someone will likely have a better 
  photo
  to share but this gives us an idea of what the prototype looks like.
 
  See the photo at:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/n4hh/
 
  The link should work by just clicking on it - no need to register, etc.
  Just click and enjoy!  Once there, click on the photo of the P3 and select 
  a
  large size.
 
  Many thanks John!  73 -- Don N4HH
 
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  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt
  Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:25 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 Panadapter Sneak Peek this Saturday
 
  OK - times up! It's after Noon out there! Surely there is someone at the
  hamfest with an iPhone, Blackberry or something else that can snap a photo
  and post it somewhere!  Or - did all the feedback cancel the showing?
  Please, do it now and put us out of our collective misery - please!  73 --
  Don N4HH K3/100 #83
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread Merv Schweigert
Have heard the same,  looks to me like it fits like a glove on
the left side,  since my K3 sits where a larger radio did, the
open space left is a perfect fit.  Left side for me it is. 
Merv KH7C
 I've been told to look in the 600 to 800 price range...


 On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 17:44 -0500, Jim Miller KG0KP wrote:
   
 Whoever it was that said it had the WOW factor, I AGREE, really nice, and 
 great bandwidth.  Just WOW.  Only thing is that it looks like it wowed 
 itself out of my price capability.  Any word on estimated price?  Hope not 
 but I ws afraid of that anyway.

 73, de Jim KG0KP

 - Original Message - 
 From: Don Nesbitt drnesb...@bellsouth.net
 To: drnesb...@bellsouth.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:16 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Photo


 
 Received a direct reply to my earlier post regarding a photo.  Thanks to
 John N6AX for forwarding the photo.  Someone will likely have a better 
 photo
 to share but this gives us an idea of what the prototype looks like.

 See the photo at:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/n4hh/

 The link should work by just clicking on it - no need to register, etc.
 Just click and enjoy!  Once there, click on the photo of the P3 and select 
 a
 large size.

 Many thanks John!  73 -- Don N4HH

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt
 Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:25 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 Panadapter Sneak Peek this Saturday

 OK - times up! It's after Noon out there! Surely there is someone at the
 hamfest with an iPhone, Blackberry or something else that can snap a photo
 and post it somewhere!  Or - did all the feedback cancel the showing?
 Please, do it now and put us out of our collective misery - please!  73 --
 Don N4HH K3/100 #83

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread K8TB
My only advice before it goes to production:

   Make the cabinet 1 wider, and stack some band buttons there. 
Maybe 2 wider with a bunch of programmable buttons that we can forget what 
they are programmed for.
Loop the rs-232 signal through this box to send the band change commands.

   And then it will be the P3AAA !

   tom bosscher K8TB



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I'm a leftie and I had thought it would be on the right - from the  
photo, I can't see what would prevent that?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers; pray for powers equal to  
your
tasks. -Phillips Brooks, bishop and orator (1835-1893)

On 15 Aug 2009, at 23:21, W6NEK wrote:

 left handed people out there will say that's fine but as a rightie I
 disagree.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Photo

2009-08-15 Thread Rick Tavan N6XI
Hmm. We may have a religious issue here. I was delighted to see the P3
positioned on the left BECAUSE I am right-handed. I send CW with my right
hand and adjust the primary radio with my left hand. Stuff located on the
right side of the panel (or to the right of the panel) must be adjusted
while obscuring most of the panel.

I suspect, however, that the P3 will come with sufficiently long cables to
be placed on either side.

/Rick N6XI

On 8/15/09, W6NEK w6...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 My first reaction to seeing the P3 was that its front panel layout is
 presently designed for it to be located on the LEFT side of the K3.  I know
 all the left handed people out there will say that's fine but as a rightie
 I
 disagree.  Placing it on the left of the K3 it sits next to the front panel
 Mic and Phone connectors (with associated cables).

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