Re: Copies of CNS standards
As Ted Mentioned, GB standards are for mainland China. They may be viewed through www.sac.gov.cn (the rectangular icon on the bottom left side). For CNS standards, I tried cnsonline.com. I stopped when I was asked for an account. Several members did go through it and purchased CNS standards. I will forward the difficulty of purchasing CNS standards to BSMI. In the meantime, if you urgently need any CNS standard(s), please let me know by Thursday, August 14, 2008. A top rank of BSMI official is coming to Detroit for the 2008 IEEE EMC Symposium next week. He is more than happy to assist you. Best regards, Grace On 8/12/08, Brian O'Connell oconne...@tamuracorp.com wrote: For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Copies of CNS standards
Thank you Grace. You may want to impress upon the BSMI official the need that we have to purchase the BSMI standards in English. While we can have them translated, it is an expense delay in using the standards and we cannot be absolutely certain that the standard has been translated correctly. A translation by BSMI would be convenient and comforting. Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 Grace Lin gracelinnj@gmail .com To Sent by: emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org cc Subject 08/13/2008 06:49 Re: Copies of CNS standards AM As Ted Mentioned, GB standards are for mainland China. They may be viewed through www.sac.gov.cn (the rectangular icon on the bottom left side). For CNS standards, I tried cnsonline.com. I stopped when I was asked for an account. Several members did go through it and purchased CNS standards. I will forward the difficulty of purchasing CNS standards to BSMI. In the meantime, if you urgently need any CNS standard(s), please let me know by Thursday, August 14, 2008. A top rank of BSMI official is coming to Detroit for the 2008 IEEE EMC Symposium next week. He is more than happy to assist you. Best regards, Grace On 8/12/08, Brian O'Connell oconne...@tamuracorp.com wrote: For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org
Re: Copies of CNS standards
In message of3345706a.87e8c8e4-on862574a4.004215c6-862574a4.0042a...@mmm.com, dated Wed, 13 Aug 2008, rehel...@mmm.com writes: A translation by BSMI would be convenient and comforting. Word of caution; the best translation is done into the translator's mother tongue. A translation 'by BSMI' might not meet this criterion. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Either we are causing global warming, in which case we may be able to stop it, or natural variation is causing it, and we probably can't stop it. You choose! John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Copies of CNS standards
John, I have to agree with you. An engineer from CESI, the publisher for GB standards, told me that China does not issue an official English version of GB standards to avoid any issue that may arise due to translation. Best regards, Grace On 8/13/08, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: In message OF3345706A.87E8C8E4-ON8625 4a4.004215c6-862574a4.0042a...@mmm.com, dated Wed, 13 Aug 2008, rehel...@mmm.com writes: A translation by BSMI would be convenient and comforting. Word of caution; the best translation is done into the translator's mother tongue. A translation 'by BSMI' might not meet this criterion. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/ and www.isce.org.uk http://www.isce.org.uk/ Either we are causing global warming, in which case we may be able to stop it, or natural variation is causing it, and we probably can't stop it. You choose! John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
Thank you all for your help! From: emc-p...@ieee.org on behalf of Grace Lin Sent: Wed 8/13/2008 7:09 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Copies of CNS standards John, I have to agree with you. An engineer from CESI, the publisher for GB standards, told me that China does not issue an official English version of GB standards to avoid any issue that may arise due to translation. Best regards, Grace On 8 /13/08, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: In message OF3345706A.87E8C8E4-ON8625 4a4.004215c6-862574a4.0042a...@mmm.com, dated Wed, 13 Aug 2008, rehel...@mmm.com writes: A translation by BSMI would be convenient and comforting. Word of caution; the best translation is done into the translator's mother tongue. A translation 'by BSMI' might not meet this criterion. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/ and www.isce.org.uk http://www.isce.org.uk/ Either we are causing global warming, in which case we may be able to stop it, or natural variation is causing it, and we probably can't stop it. You choose! John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Copies of CNS standards
Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications (w) 303-706-5467 (c) 303-204-2974 (t) 3033022...@vtext.com (e) charles.gra...@echostar.com (e2) chasgra...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
I did a quick search on the ANSI web site for Chinese GB, as suggested. I got 1500 hits, but could not find CNS 13438 and all documents I browsed through (not all 1500) were in Chinese language, which is of no help to me. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:11 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
The GB standards are for mainland China. The CNS standards are for Taiwan. ANSI does not have many Taiwanese standards. BSMI is the best place to get it, but their web site isn't working properly right now. (At least the English section is not.) CE Magazine does have an old comparison between the Taiwan standard and CISPR 22 that may help. http://www.ce-mag.com/archive/1999/novdec/Lin.html Ted Eckert The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Knighten, Jim L jim.knigh...@teradata.com wrote: From: Knighten, Jim L jim.knigh...@teradata.com Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards To: emc-p...@ieee.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 4:28 PM I did a quick search on the ANSI web site for Chinese GB, as suggested. I got 1500 hits, but could not find CNS 13438 and all documents I browsed through (not all 1500) were in Chinese language, which is of no help to me. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:11 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety
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Hello All, Just one clarification regarding update of South Korea's APEC TEL MRA Annex I - this recent update does now allow for Canadian labs to be accredited with full scope of the Korean requirements. This bilateral agreement has been in place between Canada and Korea for several years, by virtue of the Korean/Canadian MRA signed in the early 90's. However, the initial agreement allowed for only one lab in either country to enter into a confidence building period. The newly updated Annex and procedures now allows for any accredited Canadian lab to add the Korean requirements to their scope, including immunity (which had been caught in the rollover from confidence building to full rollout in accordance with APEC TEL). In keeping with the APEC TEL MRA procedures, Korea has updated Annex I and their full list of technical regulations (relating to Telecom, EMC and Wireless approvals). However, this does not automatically translate into open acceptance of reports from any country. These agreements (such as the one that exists between Canada and Korea) must be in place, before Phase I can be fully implemented. Best Regards, Chun Kim www.approvalspecialists.com - Original Message - From: Benoit Nadeau To: Fred Borda ; Barbara Judge Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: RE: CNS Standards Bonjour de Montreal, Just a few comment about BSMI, MRAs and testing. The APEC TEL MRA was sign by the DGT in Taiwan, thus allowing foreign testing lab to the EMC on telecom equipment only. The extension, in USA, of this MRA to Information Technology Equipment was negotiated separately by the FCC (actually by the means of an exchange of letters between trade office in Washington and Taipei for political reasons). The terms used in those letters states that Designated US based lab data would be recognized by BSMI for tests performed on US products. In fact, Us tests labs can only test US products. This situation made me test in Taiwan for the last two years, waiting for the Taiwan Foreign affairs to sign the same type of agreement with Canada. On the other hand, South-Korea was just (see attachment) update their Annex 1 of the APEC Tel MRA, including all EMI and EMS test. So, accredited tests labs, even American ones, if they have their scope modified to include the South-Korean requirements, could be designated. I just received mine a few days ago. Best regards, == Benoît Nadeau, ing., M.ing. (P.Eng., M.Eng) Gérant du Groupe Conformité (Conformity Group Manager) Matrox == 1055, boul St-Régis Dorval (Québec) Canada H9P 2T4 Tel : (514) 822-6000 (2475) Fax : (514) 822-6275 mailto:bnad...@matrox.com http://www.matrox.com == -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Fred Borda Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 17:01 To: Barbara Judge Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CNS Standards Hi Barbara, Yes, I believe what we have is an official translation of CNS13438. I'm sure it has the usual disclaimers on it warning that in the event of a conflict between the original and the translation, the original Chinese prevails, though. Thanks for your post detailing the MRAs. I think it helps make some sense out of it for those who aren't following it regularly. About the in-country testing required note on our web site, that's actually intended to refer to telecom testing. BSMI has recognized EMC test reports from designated labs even before the APEC TEL MRA, and DGT adopted this practice when they began evaluating EMC compliance on telecom equipment two years ago. On the telecom front, Taiwan has been ready for some time to move forward with the US on Phase I and more recently Phase II of the MRA. It's just a matter of designating labs outside of Taiwan. As far as I know, the only lab designated for any standard besides EMC is CCS. For wire line telecom, until there are labs designated outside of Taiwan to test to the standard that applies to a product, the practical advice is that it's got to be tested (for telecom) in-country. Sorry to cause confusion. -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 12:50 04/22/02 -0700, Barbara Judge wrote: Hi Fred, Is that an official translation of CNS 13438? By the way in visiting your website I notice that you stipulate that In-country testing is required for most equipment Under the APEC Mutual Recognition Arrangement, both Taiwan and the US being signatories, it is not required that testing be conducted in Taiwan. Testing may be conducted by a Conformity Assessment Body (CAB), in the U.S., that has been
RE: CNS Standards
Bonjour de Montreal, Just a few comment about BSMI, MRAs and testing. The APEC TEL MRA was sign by the DGT in Taiwan, thus allowing foreign testing lab to the EMC on telecom equipment only. The extension, in USA, of this MRA to Information Technology Equipment was negotiated separately by the FCC (actually by the means of an exchange of letters between trade office in Washington and Taipei for political reasons). The terms used in those letters states that Designated US based lab data would be recognized by BSMI for tests performed on US products. In fact, Us tests labs can only test US products. This situation made me test in Taiwan for the last two years, waiting for the Taiwan Foreign affairs to sign the same type of agreement with Canada. On the other hand, South-Korea was just (see attachment) update their Annex 1 of the APEC Tel MRA, including all EMI and EMS test. So, accredited tests labs, even American ones, if they have their scope modified to include the South-Korean requirements, could be designated. I just received mine a few days ago. Best regards, == Benoît Nadeau, ing., M.ing. (P.Eng., M.Eng) Gérant du Groupe Conformité (Conformity Group Manager) Matrox == 1055, boul St-Régis Dorval (Québec) Canada H9P 2T4 Tel : (514) 822-6000 (2475) Fax : (514) 822-6275 mailto:bnad...@matrox.com http://www.matrox.com == -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Fred Borda Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 17:01 To: Barbara Judge Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CNS Standards Hi Barbara, Yes, I believe what we have is an official translation of CNS13438. I'm sure it has the usual disclaimers on it warning that in the event of a conflict between the original and the translation, the original Chinese prevails, though. Thanks for your post detailing the MRAs. I think it helps make some sense out of it for those who aren't following it regularly. About the in-country testing required note on our web site, that's actually intended to refer to telecom testing. BSMI has recognized EMC test reports from designated labs even before the APEC TEL MRA, and DGT adopted this practice when they began evaluating EMC compliance on telecom equipment two years ago. On the telecom front, Taiwan has been ready for some time to move forward with the US on Phase I and more recently Phase II of the MRA. It's just a matter of designating labs outside of Taiwan. As far as I know, the only lab designated for any standard besides EMC is CCS. For wire line telecom, until there are labs designated outside of Taiwan to test to the standard that applies to a product, the practical advice is that it's got to be tested (for telecom) in-country. Sorry to cause confusion. -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 12:50 04/22/02 -0700, Barbara Judge wrote: Hi Fred, Is that an official translation of CNS 13438? By the way in visiting your website I notice that you stipulate that In-country testing is required for most equipment Under the APEC Mutual Recognition Arrangement, both Taiwan and the US being signatories, it is not required that testing be conducted in Taiwan. Testing may be conducted by a Conformity Assessment Body (CAB), in the U.S., that has been Nominated by NIST and confirmed by DGT. We are still in Phase 1 of the Arrangement so submission to DGT is still required. Once we move to Phase 2 the confirmed CABs under Phase 2 should be capable of certifying products for DGT. I'd be happy to discuss our capability with you off-line. Best Regards, Barbara ___ Barbara L. Judge Vice President Compliance Certification Services Designated TCB and CAB 561F Monterey Road Morgan Hill, CA 95037 408-463-0885 ext.104 Fax: 408-463-0888 e-mail: bju...@ccsemc.com http://www.ccsemc.com -Original Message- From: Fred Borda [mailto:fbo...@typeapproval.com] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:22 AM To: rehel...@mmm.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CNS Standards Hello Bob, Compliance International can provide the CNS 13438 standard for you. Please contact me off-list for details. Best regards, -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 12:05 04/22/02 -0500, rehel...@mmm.com wrote: Can anyone provide a source to purchase Taiwan EMC standards (CNS) in English? Thank you, Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org
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Hi Barbara, Yes, I believe what we have is an official translation of CNS13438. I'm sure it has the usual disclaimers on it warning that in the event of a conflict between the original and the translation, the original Chinese prevails, though. Thanks for your post detailing the MRAs. I think it helps make some sense out of it for those who aren't following it regularly. About the in-country testing required note on our web site, that's actually intended to refer to telecom testing. BSMI has recognized EMC test reports from designated labs even before the APEC TEL MRA, and DGT adopted this practice when they began evaluating EMC compliance on telecom equipment two years ago. On the telecom front, Taiwan has been ready for some time to move forward with the US on Phase I and more recently Phase II of the MRA. It's just a matter of designating labs outside of Taiwan. As far as I know, the only lab designated for any standard besides EMC is CCS. For wire line telecom, until there are labs designated outside of Taiwan to test to the standard that applies to a product, the practical advice is that it's got to be tested (for telecom) in-country. Sorry to cause confusion. -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 12:50 04/22/02 -0700, Barbara Judge wrote: Hi Fred, Is that an official translation of CNS 13438? By the way in visiting your website I notice that you stipulate that In-country testing is required for most equipment Under the APEC Mutual Recognition Arrangement, both Taiwan and the US being signatories, it is not required that testing be conducted in Taiwan. Testing may be conducted by a Conformity Assessment Body (CAB), in the U.S., that has been Nominated by NIST and confirmed by DGT. We are still in Phase 1 of the Arrangement so submission to DGT is still required. Once we move to Phase 2 the confirmed CABs under Phase 2 should be capable of certifying products for DGT. I'd be happy to discuss our capability with you off-line. Best Regards, Barbara ___ Barbara L. Judge Vice President Compliance Certification Services Designated TCB and CAB 561F Monterey Road Morgan Hill, CA 95037 408-463-0885 ext.104 Fax: 408-463-0888 e-mail: bju...@ccsemc.com http://www.ccsemc.com -Original Message- From: Fred Borda [mailto:fbo...@typeapproval.com] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:22 AM To: rehel...@mmm.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CNS Standards Hello Bob, Compliance International can provide the CNS 13438 standard for you. Please contact me off-list for details. Best regards, -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 12:05 04/22/02 -0500, rehel...@mmm.com wrote: Can anyone provide a source to purchase Taiwan EMC standards (CNS) in English? Thank you, Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list Fred Borda Director Marketing Business Development Compliance International www.typeapproval.com -- The experts in telecommunications equipment type approval across the Asia-Pacific region -- 4713 First Street, Suite 280 Pleasanton, California 94566-7362 USA Tel +1.925.417.5571 (direct) Fax +1.925.417.5574 Mobile +1.650.740.5762 fbo...@typeapproval.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
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For those interested, there was an article in Compliance Engineering in November 1999 comparing CNS 13438:1997 to CISPR 22:1993. It also had some brief comments on lab accreditation. The article can be found on the web at http://www.ce-mag.com/archive/1999/novdec/Lin.html On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:15:41 -0700, gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com wrote: Aha, the thread just hit the topic I was just waiting for, and I know this isn't going to be an easy question. Some countries won't take the data taken at a NIST accredited lab without further agreements being signed. Taiwan is an example. You can still do it in country but your lab has to have some sort of arrangement with Taiwan. A few, I don't have a clue to the percentage, labs have this and for the extra translation fee etc, you can pretty much get the data you need while doing a normal US/European set of tests, radiated emissions and immunity. Some countries, like Russia will take the NIST (A2LA or NVLAP accredited) EMC and CB data, but require a review and filing fee. A third set like Korea still want in-country testing. There is only a single public lab in Canada that has an agreement with Korea to take the data (now both emissions and immunity). At least as far as I currently know. Are their any more of the third set of countries that I should be concerned about. Sorry I know this is a wide open question. As a small company my current MO is to obtain the core countries that we would immediate try to open as markets. Basically, North America, and Western Europe, and Japan. I then just try to be prepared with CB data and NIST lab data for those countries that essentially want to review that data on their own for acceptance. Folks like Korea, just have to wait until our financials show us that it is worth spending the money for what is basically a retest of the equipment for a specific country. Sales, Marketing and I are on the same page to this point, but they certainly would like to know those countries where I need to re-test as soon as possible, both from a cost and a time perspective. While I have asked that they help provide this information from the in-country sales or distributors, that has met with limited success. Anybody aware of other, possible more obscure markets, that are still looking for in-country testing. Gary -Original Message- From: Barbara Judge [mailto:bju...@ccsemc.com] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:51 PM To: 'Fred Borda'; rehel...@mmm.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CNS Standards Hi Fred, Is that an official translation of CNS 13438? By the way in visiting your website I notice that you stipulate that In-country testing is required for most equipment Under the APEC Mutual Recognition Arrangement, both Taiwan and the US being signatories, it is not required that testing be conducted in Taiwan. Testing may be conducted by a Conformity Assessment Body (CAB), in the U.S., that has been Nominated by NIST and confirmed by DGT. We are still in Phase 1 of the Arrangement so submission to DGT is still required. Once we move to Phase 2 the confirmed CABs under Phase 2 should be capable of certifying products for DGT. I'd be happy to discuss our capability with you off-line. Best Regards, Barbara ___ Barbara L. Judge Vice President Compliance Certification Services Designated TCB and CAB 561F Monterey Road Morgan Hill, CA 95037 408-463-0885 ext.104 Fax: 408-463-0888 e-mail: bju...@ccsemc.com http://www.ccsemc.com -Original Message- From: Fred Borda [mailto:fbo...@typeapproval.com] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:22 AM To: rehel...@mmm.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CNS Standards Hello Bob, Compliance International can provide the CNS 13438 standard for you. Please contact me off-list for details. Best regards, -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 12:05 04/22/02 -0500, rehel...@mmm.com wrote: Can anyone provide a source to purchase Taiwan EMC standards (CNS) in English? Thank you, Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 Fred Borda Director Marketing Business Development Compliance International www.typeapproval.com -- The experts in telecommunications equipment type approval across the Asia-Pacific region -- 4713 First Street, Suite 280 Pleasanton, California 94566-7362 USA Tel +1.925.417.5571 (direct) Fax +1.925.417.5574 Mobile +1.650.740.5762 fbo...@typeapproval.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail
RE: CNS Standards
Hi Fred, Is that an official translation of CNS 13438? By the way in visiting your website I notice that you stipulate that In-country testing is required for most equipment Under the APEC Mutual Recognition Arrangement, both Taiwan and the US being signatories, it is not required that testing be conducted in Taiwan. Testing may be conducted by a Conformity Assessment Body (CAB), in the U.S., that has been Nominated by NIST and confirmed by DGT. We are still in Phase 1 of the Arrangement so submission to DGT is still required. Once we move to Phase 2 the confirmed CABs under Phase 2 should be capable of certifying products for DGT. I'd be happy to discuss our capability with you off-line. Best Regards, Barbara ___ Barbara L. Judge Vice President Compliance Certification Services Designated TCB and CAB 561F Monterey Road Morgan Hill, CA 95037 408-463-0885 ext.104 Fax: 408-463-0888 e-mail: bju...@ccsemc.com http://www.ccsemc.com -Original Message- From: Fred Borda [mailto:fbo...@typeapproval.com] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:22 AM To: rehel...@mmm.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CNS Standards Hello Bob, Compliance International can provide the CNS 13438 standard for you. Please contact me off-list for details. Best regards, -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 12:05 04/22/02 -0500, rehel...@mmm.com wrote: Can anyone provide a source to purchase Taiwan EMC standards (CNS) in English? Thank you, Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list Fred Borda Director Marketing Business Development Compliance International www.typeapproval.com -- The experts in telecommunications equipment type approval across the Asia-Pacific region -- 4713 First Street, Suite 280 Pleasanton, California 94566-7362 USA Tel +1.925.417.5571 (direct) Fax +1.925.417.5574 Mobile +1.650.740.5762 fbo...@typeapproval.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: CNS Standards
Hello Bob, Compliance International can provide the CNS 13438 standard for you. Please contact me off-list for details. Best regards, -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 12:05 04/22/02 -0500, rehel...@mmm.com wrote: Can anyone provide a source to purchase Taiwan EMC standards (CNS) in English? Thank you, Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list Fred Borda Director Marketing Business Development Compliance International www.typeapproval.com -- The experts in telecommunications equipment type approval across the Asia-Pacific region -- 4713 First Street, Suite 280 Pleasanton, California 94566-7362 USA Tel +1.925.417.5571 (direct) Fax +1.925.417.5574 Mobile +1.650.740.5762 fbo...@typeapproval.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
CNS Standards
Can anyone provide a source to purchase Taiwan EMC standards (CNS) in English? Thank you, Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
