Re: WEEE Directive
richhug...@aol.com wrote (in 9b.5cd86319.2f843...@aol.com) about 'WEEE Directive', on Tue, 5 Apr 2005: As interesting one this: - it is the Commission that propose (and in reality largely draft) EC Directives in the first place. Yes, but the two groups of politicians both arranged for their posteriors to be protected. The Commission drafts Directives but the Council of Ministers approves them, so shares the responsibility for any that prove unworkable. And the third group, the Parliament, amends drafts, so it, too, shares any blame. - it is the Commission that take Member States to task when they fail to impliment Directives by the due date. When one Member State fails to implement a Directive then that MS looks to be acting in a tardy way. But when multiple MSs fail to implement the same Directive then that draws into question as to whether the Directive was really thought through before it was published in the OJEC. So who drafted the legislation in the first place and who decides whether to prosecute Is it surprising that some people think the whole thing is a nonsense? -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. There are two sides to every question, except 'What is a Moebius strip?' http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: WEEE Directive
In a message dated 04/04/2005 18:59:44 GMT Standard Time, j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk writes: In theory, the Commission can take an errant government to the European Court, and it does happen in practice. But often, the Commission accepts that the deviation is justified or inevitable. -- John, As interesting one this: - it is the Commission that propose (and in reality largely draft) EC Directives in the first place. - it is the Commission that take Member States to task when they fail to impliment Directives by the due date. When one Member State fails to implement a Directive then that MS looks to be acting in a tardy way. But when multiple MSs fail to implement the same Directive then that draws into question as to whether the Directive was really thought through before it was published in the OJEC. So who drafted the legislation in the first place and who decides whether to prosecute? Just a thought Richard Hughes This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: WEEE Directive
POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com wrote (in 970a8fe5db2be64eb6eab84087dcc1c8496...@bssexc01.aei.com) about 'WEEE Directive', on Mon, 4 Apr 2005: How can a single nationality delay beyond the mandated dates published for the community? In theory, the Commission can take an errant government to the European Court, and it does happen in practice. But often, the Commission accepts that the deviation is justified or inevitable. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. There are two sides to every question, except 'What is a Moebius strip?' http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: WEEE Directive
hello Doug, that is on my mind as well, I have recieved very good replies,but still unsure of the EU stance in general ( As One Voice) governing all of the EU. I realize some countries are trying harder and consious of waste as I am. But when a directive is released by the EU, it should be carried out by everyone and not have targets and dates from each EU member, when there are 25 memebrs and growing. The confusion of this directive has hit EU countries, thus they are pushing the dates out to 2006 as noted recently on emails within this forum, the impact to those countries is felt, so hopefully they'll know the impact to us as producers exporting to some EU member states. And knowing all the details is very critical at this time. regards Richard, From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of POWELL, DOUG Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:19 PM To: richhug...@aol.com; charles.gra...@echostar.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: WEEE Directive Richard, You are correct that, at least in this case, much of this is written in fudge. On this side of the pond, to many producers it appears that the UK has the timeliest information and many are taking this as the norm for the entire community. In addition, I don’t have the resources to track every member of the EU and their implementation dates. So my policy has been to use the EU deadlines, as they are published. Last Friday, there is an interesting article from the BBC. In this article both the UK and Germany are apparently delaying. My question is this, “How can a single nationality delay beyond the mandated dates published for the community? “ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4393347.stm Regards, -Doug Fort Collins, Colorado USA _ From: richhug...@aol.com [mailto:richhug...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:58 PM To: POWELL, DOUG; charles.gra...@echostar.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: WEEE Diective Doug, I'm not sure why you would expect a statement regarding the UK situation on the Europa web site. I agree that it is always a good idea to look at the source rather than relying on info 3rd hand, and since the details of the DTI's web site have already been posted there is no reason why you and others should not do this. Perhaps you and/or others are thinking that the announcement refers to what is happening in Europe generally - it doesn't, it relates only to the way the UK Government is approximating the WEEE (and RoHS) Directives into UK law. Some other Member States have already enacted the WEE Directive while others are in the process of doing so. As far as companies are concerned, EC Directives should be taken as pointers to what national legislation SHOULD look like. Directives direct Member States (e.g. national governments) to pass national laws, they do not direct private companies to do anything. Directives contain a date by which Member States must pass national legislation to place into force the requirements of the Directive. Sometimes Member States don't comply with this date and sometimes the Commission them prosecute as a result. If you read the DTI announcement then you will see that far from being written in stone, it is written in fudge. Enjoy! Richard Hughes This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: WEEE Directive
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Richard, You are correct that, at least in this case, much of this is written in fudge. On this side of the pond, to many producers it appears that the UK has the timeliest information and many are taking this as the norm for the entire community. In addition, I don’t have the resources to track every member of the EU and their implementation dates. So my policy has been to use the EU deadlines, as they are published. Last Friday, there is an interesting article from the BBC. In this article both the UK and Germany are apparently delaying. My question is this, “How can a single nationality delay beyond the mandated dates published for the community? “ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4393347.stm Regards, -Doug Fort Collins, Colorado USA _ From: richhug...@aol.com [mailto:richhug...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:58 PM To: POWELL, DOUG; charles.gra...@echostar.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: WEEE Diective Doug, I'm not sure why you would expect a statement regarding the UK situation on the Europa web site. I agree that it is always a good idea to look at the source rather than relying on info 3rd hand, and since the details of the DTI's web site have already been posted there is no reason why you and others should not do this. Perhaps you and/or others are thinking that the announcement refers to what is happening in Europe generally - it doesn't, it relates only to the way the UK Government is approximating the WEEE (and RoHS) Directives into UK law. Some other Member States have already enacted the WEE Directive while others are in the process of doing so. As far as companies are concerned, EC Directives should be taken as pointers to what national legislation SHOULD look like. Directives direct Member States (e.g. national governments) to pass national laws, they do not direct private companies to do anything. Directives contain a date by which Member States must pass national legislation to place into force the requirements of the Directive. Sometimes Member States don't comply with this date and sometimes the Commission them prosecute as a result. If you read the DTI announcement then you will see that far from being written in stone, it is written in fudge. Enjoy! Richard Hughes Richard, You are correct that, at least in this case, much of this is written in fudge. On this side of the pond, to many producers it appears that the UK has the timeliest information and many are taking this as the norm for the entire community. In addition, I dont have the resources to track every member of the EU and their implementation dates. So my policy has been to use the EU deadlines, as they are published. Last Friday, there is an interesting article >from the BBC. In this article both the UK and Germany are apparently delaying. My question is this, How can a single nationality delay beyond the mandated dates published for the community? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4393347.stm Regards, -Doug Fort Collins, Colorado USA From: richhug...@aol.com [mailto:richhug...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:58 PM To: POWELL, DOUG; charles.gra...@echostar.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: WEEE Diective Doug, I'm not sure why you would expect a statement regarding the UK situation on the Europa web site. I agree that it is always a good idea to look at the source rather than relying on info 3rd hand, and since the details of the DTI's web site have already been posted there is no reason why you and others should not do this. Perhaps you and/or others are thinking that the announcement refers to what is happening in Europe generally - it doesn't, it relates only to the way the UK Government is approximating the WEEE (and RoHS) Directives into UK law. Some other Member States have already enacted the WEE Directive while others are in the process of doing so. As far as companies are concerned, EC Directives should be taken as pointers to what national legislation SHOULD look like. Directives direct Member States (e.g. national governments) to pass national laws, they do not direct private companies to do anything. Directives contain a date by which Member States must pass national legislation to place into force the requirements of the Directive. Sometimes Member States don't comply with this date and sometimes the Commission them prosecute as a result. If you read the DTI announcement then you will see that far from being written in stone, it is written in fudge. Enjoy! Richard Hughes ATT392815.txt Description: Binary data
RE: WEEE Directive
here in this letter http://www.dti.gov.uk/sustainability/weee/Planning_for_Implementation.pdf also see http://www.dti.gov.uk/sustainability/weee the Mecca for UK RoHS and WEEE info -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org on behalf of don_macart...@selinc.com Sent: Fri 01/04/2005 15:50 To: Alan E Hutley Nutwood UK Cc: Emc-Pstc Discussion Group; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: WEEE Directive Dear Alan, Thank you for the information. Can you please tell us where this information is published? Best Regards, Don MacArthur Compliance Engineer, NCE, NCT, CIT Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories, Inc. 2350 NE Hopkins Court Pullman, WA 99163 PH: (509)334-4934 FAX: (509)336-4430 Alan E Hutley Nutwood UK alan@nutwooduk.c To o.uk Emc-Pstc Discussion Group Sent by: emc-p...@ieee.org owner-emc-pstc@LI cc STSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject WEEE Diective 04/01/05 12:10 AM Please respond to Alan E Hutley Nutwood UK alan@nutwooduk.c o.uk Hi All Under pressure from Industry the UK Government has phased back implementation of the WEEE Directive from August until January 2006. Cheers Alan E Hutley Editor The EMC Journal www.compliance-club.com This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: WEEE Directive
Dear Alan, Thank you for the information. Can you please tell us where this information is published? Best Regards, Don MacArthur Compliance Engineer, NCE, NCT, CIT Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories, Inc. 2350 NE Hopkins Court Pullman, WA 99163 PH: (509)334-4934 FAX: (509)336-4430 Alan E Hutley Nutwood UK alan@nutwooduk.c To o.uk Emc-Pstc Discussion Group Sent by: emc-p...@ieee.org owner-emc-pstc@LI cc STSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject WEEE Diective 04/01/05 12:10 AM Please respond to Alan E Hutley Nutwood UK alan@nutwooduk.c o.uk Hi All Under pressure from Industry the UK Government has phased back implementation of the WEEE Directive from August until January 2006. Cheers Alan E Hutley Editor The EMC Journal www.compliance-club.com This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: WEEE Directive
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Ian,
The WEEE Directive is (as with all EU directives) an instruction to Member
States to pass national laws that implement the essential provisions of the
directive. This is a long-winded way of saying that the measures relating to
recycling will differ between, say, the UK and Germany. Therefore, the chances
are that there will be no single answer to your question that applies across
all Member States.
National legislation implimenting the WEEE Directive does not yet exist in all
Member States. For instance, in the UK the consultation process for
implementing the WEEE and RoHS directives has only recently started: see the
DTI web site at
http://www.dti.gov.uk/sustainability/weee/
According to the DTI's consultation proposals, the UK will be applying a light
touch approach to implementing the eco-design requirements of the WEEED.
Other countries may be producing (or may already have produced) national
legislation that does not adopt such a 'light touch' to eco-design.
{In case you don't keep up with the standards scene, IEC have just set up a new
Technical Committee scoped to look at environmental issues. Our lives are set
to become even more ‘interesting’}.
So, to answer your question is this actually happening on the ground the
answer is no, except in the case of those companies who recycle products
voluntarily. Perhaps we’ll hear from a few such companies to see how they are
getting on and what approaches they’re taking?
While protection of the environment is important to Europeans (more so than it
is to George W it seems) it is also recognised that measures need to be
affordable. It seems to me that scrap from products collected under the
WEEED’s provision will have an economic value. To turn this scrap back into
raw material useful for making new product will require recycling. If the
scrap is relatively pure it will require less recycling and so will command a
higher price. Throwing a mixture of products into a great big grinding machine
is therefore not yield the highest value scrap. Equally, employing hordes of
people to manually separate every part of an equipment into its components is
likely to cost so much that nobody will purchase the resulting scrap.
Regards,
Richard Hughes
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RE: WEEE Directive - Electrolytic caps
Sylvia, The WEEE directive states (Annex II, Point 1, last bullet): electrolyte capacitors containing substances of concern (height 25mm, Diameter 25mm or proportionately similar volume) A rod 25mm high and 25 mm in diameter has a volume of 12.3 um^3. Since converting to cubic mm is always an exercise that takes me 10 minutes to get right, I'll leave that part up to you. 8-) Here's a working link to the WEEE directive: http://europa.eu.int/smartapi/cgi/sga_d c?smartapi!celexapi!prod!CELEXnumdoclg=ENnumdoc=32002L0096model=guichett Cheers, Marko Volume of a rod = height x Pi x Radius^2 From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of ext Sylvia Toma Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 3:58 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: WEEE Directive Hello, I saved an old email below regarding electrolytic capacitors. Could someone elaborate on what is the specified volume of substances to be of concern within the electrolytic capacitors? I tried using the link provided below and couldn't found what I need. Looking forward to your prompt response. Best Regards, Sylvia From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:09 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: WEEE Directive After some additional research, I found my answer. Electrolyte capacitors contain substances of concern if the volume of the device exceeds a specified minumum. In that case, the metals are to be recovered and the rest is to be treated by high temperatures. Additional information on the WEEE recovery process can be found in http://www1.oecd.org/ehs/Waste/AUTLoSt.doc Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: WOODS, RICHARD Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:38 AM To: 'emc-pstc' Subject: WEEE Directive Annex II of the draft WEEE Directive lists materials and components that must be removed for selective treatment including Electrolyte capacitors containing substances of concern . . . Other than the four heavy metals and PCBs, what substances of concern, if any, may be found in electrolytic capacitors? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: WEEE Directive
Hello, I saved an old email below regarding electrolytic capacitors. Could someone elaborate on what is the specified volume of substances to be of concern within the electrolytic capacitors? I tried using the link provided below and couldn't found what I need. Looking forward to your prompt response. Best Regards, Sylvia From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:09 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: WEEE Directive After some additional research, I found my answer. Electrolyte capacitors contain substances of concern if the volume of the device exceeds a specified minumum. In that case, the metals are to be recovered and the rest is to be treated by high temperatures. Additional information on the WEEE recovery process can be found in http://www1.oecd.org/ehs/Waste/AUTLoSt.doc Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: WOODS, RICHARD Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:38 AM To: 'emc-pstc' Subject: WEEE Directive Annex II of the draft WEEE Directive lists materials and components that must be removed for selective treatment including Electrolyte capacitors containing substances of concern . . . Other than the four heavy metals and PCBs, what substances of concern, if any, may be found in electrolytic capacitors? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: WEEE Directive
After some additional research, I found my answer. Electrolyte capacitors contain substances of concern if the volume of the device exceeds a specified minumum. In that case, the metals are to be recovered and the rest is to be treated by high temperatures. Additional information on the WEEE recovery process can be found in http://www1.oecd.org/ehs/Waste/AUTLoSt.doc Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: WOODS, RICHARD Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:38 AM To: 'emc-pstc' Subject: WEEE Directive Annex II of the draft WEEE Directive lists materials and components that must be removed for selective treatment including Electrolyte capacitors containing substances of concern . . . Other than the four heavy metals and PCBs, what substances of concern, if any, may be found in electrolytic capacitors? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: WEEE Directive
I think that you are looking at an old draft of the directive (2000). Go to dti.gov.uk/support/summary.htm for a draft issued 8 Nov 02 and page down to update on chnages to the WEEE. It does not have any annex, nor can I find a reference to capacitors. Regards, Neil Helsby ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: WEEE Directive
Hi John WEEE comes into effect 1st January 2007 Alan E Hutley EMC Compliance Journal - Original Message - From: John Juhasz jjuh...@fiberoptions.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:38 PM Subject: WEEE Directive I am trying to find a link to the draft of the actual WEEE (Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment) Directive. What I found thus far at the following link is the proposal FOR developing the Directive, not the actual draft itself. http://europa.eu.int/comm/environment/docum/00347_en.htm Does anyone have a link to the actual draft Directive? What is the proposed implementation date? Thanks. John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
Re: WEEE Directive
John, Try this: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/com/dat/2000/en_500PC0347_01.html John Radomski John Juhasz jjuhasz@Fiberoptions.c To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' emc-p...@ieee.org om cc: Sent by: Subject: WEEE Directive owner-emc-pstc@majordom o.ieee.org 12/06/01 04:38 PM Please respond to John Juhasz I am trying to find a link to the draft of the actual WEEE (Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment) Directive. What I found thus far at the following link is the proposal FOR developing the Directive, not the actual draft itself. http://europa.eu.int/comm/environment/docum/00347_en.htm Does anyone have a link to the actual draft Directive? What is the proposed implementation date? Thanks. John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: WEEE Directive
John Friends For the draft directives, see http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/com/dat/2000/en_500PC0347_01.html Can't help with the date. Regards John Allen -Original Message- From: John Juhasz [mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com] Sent: 06 December 2001 21:39 To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: WEEE Directive I am trying to find a link to the draft of the actual WEEE (Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment) Directive. What I found thus far at the following link is the proposal FOR developing the Directive, not the actual draft itself. http://europa.eu.int/comm/environment/docum/00347_en.htm Does anyone have a link to the actual draft Directive? What is the proposed implementation date? Thanks. John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
Re: WEEE directive (4th Draft)
Hello Richard, The official EU version (in .pdf format) was mounted on the net only this morning. Visit the Safety Link www.safetylink.com, drop down to the Safety Articles, FAQs, MRAs, Etc. subsection; look for WEEE towards the end of the section. Or, once you enter the Safety Link, use your browser's Find or Search function to locate the term WEEE. Regards, Art Michael Int'l Product Safety News A.E. Michael, Editor 166 Congdon St. East P.O. Box 1561 Middletown CT 06457 U.S.A. Phone : (860) 344-1651 Fax: (860) 346-9066 Email : i...@connix.com Website: http://www.safetylink.com ISSN : 1040-7529 - On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 wo...@sensormatic.com wrote: It has been reported that the 4th draft directive on Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment (WEEE) was set to be approved the first week in June although it must go through the European Parliament before final adoption. Does anyone know if this draft is available on the web? I was unsuccessful in finding it. Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: WEEE Directive
Actually, Gentlemen, PVC compounds are doped with many different types of flame retardants. In fact, every plastic material must be doped with flame retardants to be flame retardant, because plastics are made from petroleum. However, there are PVC materials that that use flame retardants that when exposed to flame, produce water (steam) and CO2 as by-products, thus robbing the plastic of heat and oxygen. These hydroxy-doped PVC's are commercially available by all the big PVC manufacturers, and the cable manufacturers worth their salt all have product lines based on these PVC materials for insulation and jacket materials. All this aside, also remember that while these Hydroxy-retardant PVCs reduce greatly the halogenated by-products from combustion, PVC is still Poly-vinyl Chloride... Also look into Flame retardant Polyolefins (FRPE, FRPO) as basis for wires and cables, this is a good option for non-halogen applications, just more expensive with less applications than PVC. Good Luck. If you need any more info, you can contact me directly. Regards, Robert Tims Compliance Engineer Ericsson Messaging Systems Inc. -Original Message- From: Rich Nute [SMTP:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 11:04 AM To: wo...@sensormatic.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: WEEE Directive Hi Richard: Are there currently any alternative wire and cable constructions that comply with UL and NEC flame requirements without the use of halogenated flame retardants? I believe PVCs are naturally flame-retardant materials i.e., have no flame retardants added to them. Many commonly-used wire and cable insulations are PVC. Best regards, Rich - Richard Nute Product Safety Engineer Hewlett-Packard Company Product Regulations Group AiO Division Tel : +1 858 655 3329 16399 West Bernardo Drive FAX : +1 858 655 4979 San Diego, California 92127 e-mail: ri...@sdd.hp.com - - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: WEEE Directive
One problem is with retractile type jacketed cables (used for coiled cables). PVC just doesn't work. These are usually polyurethane, which have traditionally used halogen-based flame retardants. There are some non-halogenated compounds available. BF Goodrich for instance, produces a product called ESTANE that has a non-halogen flame retardant. You should specify the jacket material on the cable drawing or you will likely get a halogen flame retardant for polyurethane cables. Darrell Locke Advanced Input Devices -- From: Rich Nute To: wo...@sensormatic.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: WEEE Directive List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:03AM Hi Richard: Are there currently any alternative wire and cable constructions that comply with UL and NEC flame requirements without the use of halogenated flame retardants? I believe PVCs are naturally flame-retardant materials i.e., have no flame retardants added to them. Many commonly-used wire and cable insulations are PVC. Best regards, Rich - Richard Nute Product Safety Engineer Hewlett-Packard Company Product Regulations Group AiO Division Tel : +1 858 655 3329 16399 West Bernardo Drive FAX : +1 858 655 4979 San Diego, California 92127 e-mail: ri...@sdd.hp.com - - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: WEEE Directive
Hi Richard: Are there currently any alternative wire and cable constructions that comply with UL and NEC flame requirements without the use of halogenated flame retardants? I believe PVCs are naturally flame-retardant materials i.e., have no flame retardants added to them. Many commonly-used wire and cable insulations are PVC. Best regards, Rich - Richard Nute Product Safety Engineer Hewlett-Packard Company Product Regulations Group AiO Division Tel : +1 858 655 3329 16399 West Bernardo Drive FAX : +1 858 655 4979 San Diego, California 92127 e-mail: ri...@sdd.hp.com - - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: WEEE Directive
I guess some members of this group will interested to know that there are quite some lobbing activities underway. Here is a position paper from AEA (American Electronic Association) http://www.svtc.org/svtc/cleancc/weeeaea.htm and EUROBIT http://www.eurobit.org/pages/EUROBIT/POSITION/Pos032.html based on the second draft. As far as I know in the meantime the Commission (DG-XI) have issued a third draft (dated 5 July 1999) of the WEEE Directive in seven parts, which I heard is fairly similar to the second draft but did not take any of the industry's lobbying comments (see above links) into account. Regards, Paris Dieker Compaq Computer EMEA B.V. Einsteinring 30, 85609 Dornach, Germany T: +49 (0)89 9392-2332 F: +49 (0)89 9392-2336 eMail: paris.die...@compaq.com -Original Message- From: POWELL, DOUG [mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 20:26 To: 'Crabb, John'; 'EMC-PSTC (E-mail)' Subject: RE: WEEE Directive John, Eventually I did find that symbol on the EUR-LEX Legislation in Force web pages. When I saw the symbol it surprised me that they did not use the circle-bar logo over the trash bin. This directive does concern us as it deals with more than just heavy metals and the 2nd draft of the proposal indicates that the manufacturer may need to provide free recycling services. My understanding is that the content of this draft is based partly on the German Blue Angel mark, Scandinavian Nordic Swan and the EU's Eco-Label. -doug -Original Message- From: Crabb, John [mailto:jo...@exchange.scotland.ncr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 3:34 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC (E-mail)' Subject: RE: WEEE Directive Doug, I would have thought you would already have come across the symbol for the crossed-out wheeled bin in the directive 93/86/EEC which adapts to technical progress Council Directive 91/157/EEC on batteries and accumulators containing certain dangerous substances, the dangerous substances being lead, cadmium, and mercury. The WEEE directive is a real bag of worms - it bans the use of lead based solder for a start ! I'm afraid I haven't been following the progress of this particular directive very diligently, since it is really environmental rather than safety, but there is certainly a lot of criticism from industry flying around. John Crabb, Development Excellence (Product Safety) , NCR Financial Solutions Group Ltd., Kingsway West, Dundee, Scotland. DD2 3XX E-Mail :john.cr...@scotland.ncr.com Tel: +44 (0)1382-592289 (direct ). Fax +44 (0)1382-622243. VoicePlus 6-341-2289. -Original Message- From: POWELL, DOUG [SMTP:doug.pow...@aei.com] Sent: 03 August 1999 01:01 To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: WEEE Directive Hello group, This may be off-topic, then again it maybe not. It is regulatory for electronic equipment. I currently have a copy of the second draft of the Proposal for a directive on waste from electrical and electronic equipment. Now I have done a fair amount of searching about this and located a number of pages to review on the Eur-Lex website. But I still am not sure what the impact is for my company. It appears that manufacturers will eventually be required to provide a free service for recycling their obsolete products. Does anyone know if and when this goes into force. And if this comes about what are the implications to manufacturers who import their products into the European Community. What is the appearance of this symbol described as a crossed-out wheeled bin? What notifications are required in user documentation? Is there a requirement to either provide or contract recycling centers? Thanks for any help, -doug === Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 USA --- 970-407-6410 (phone) 970-407-5410 (e-fax) mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com http://www.advanced-energy.com http://www.advanced-energy.com/ === - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Weee Directive
Summary info about the WEEE Directive, relevant also to the California warning notice required for lead content. Producer takes responsibility for pollution Compulsory targets by Jan 2006 target of 70% recycling or re-use by 2004 5% reuse of plastics in new products by 2004 Ban on lead, cadmium, etc by 1 Jan 2004. This includes a ban on lead solder! You can get the draft directive, and read the American Electronics Association (AEA)'s position on it, at: http://www.svtc.org/cleancc/weeeaea.htm Roger Viles WWG Brian Harlowe bharl...@vgscientific.com on 05/08/99 17:18:40 Please respond to Brian Harlowe bharl...@vgscientific.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org cc:(bcc: Roger Viles/PLY/Global) Subject: Weee Directive Like John Crabb I am not too well informed regarding this directive. I believe though that the bare bones of it is that by the year 200* ALL electronic equipment must be able to be recycled. I believe I saw something where this will be phased in where a certain percentage of the unit will have to comply but the ultimate aim is to achieve total recycling. This has started in a limited fashion in the UK there are now companies being set up to dismantle old PCs and other units and recycle the plastic housings and the CRTs and other components. As I say my knowledge is thin but I do have some info in an ERA Safety and EMC newsletter that I will fax to any one if they want it. Regards Brian Harlowe * opinions expressed here are personal and in no way reflect the position of VG Scientific * opinions expressed here are personal and in no way reflect the position of VG Scientific - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: WEEE Directive
John, Eventually I did find that symbol on the EUR-LEX Legislation in Force web pages. When I saw the symbol it surprised me that they did not use the circle-bar logo over the trash bin. This directive does concern us as it deals with more than just heavy metals and the 2nd draft of the proposal indicates that the manufacturer may need to provide free recycling services. My understanding is that the content of this draft is based partly on the German Blue Angel mark, Scandinavian Nordic Swan and the EU's Eco-Label. -doug -Original Message- From: Crabb, John [mailto:jo...@exchange.scotland.ncr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 3:34 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC (E-mail)' Subject: RE: WEEE Directive Doug, I would have thought you would already have come across the symbol for the crossed-out wheeled bin in the directive 93/86/EEC which adapts to technical progress Council Directive 91/157/EEC on batteries and accumulators containing certain dangerous substances, the dangerous substances being lead, cadmium, and mercury. The WEEE directive is a real bag of worms - it bans the use of lead based solder for a start ! I'm afraid I haven't been following the progress of this particular directive very diligently, since it is really environmental rather than safety, but there is certainly a lot of criticism from industry flying around. John Crabb, Development Excellence (Product Safety) , NCR Financial Solutions Group Ltd., Kingsway West, Dundee, Scotland. DD2 3XX E-Mail :john.cr...@scotland.ncr.com Tel: +44 (0)1382-592289 (direct ). Fax +44 (0)1382-622243. VoicePlus 6-341-2289. -Original Message- From: POWELL, DOUG [SMTP:doug.pow...@aei.com] Sent: 03 August 1999 01:01 To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: WEEE Directive Hello group, This may be off-topic, then again it maybe not. It is regulatory for electronic equipment. I currently have a copy of the second draft of the Proposal for a directive on waste from electrical and electronic equipment. Now I have done a fair amount of searching about this and located a number of pages to review on the Eur-Lex website. But I still am not sure what the impact is for my company. It appears that manufacturers will eventually be required to provide a free service for recycling their obsolete products. Does anyone know if and when this goes into force. And if this comes about what are the implications to manufacturers who import their products into the European Community. What is the appearance of this symbol described as a crossed-out wheeled bin? What notifications are required in user documentation? Is there a requirement to either provide or contract recycling centers? Thanks for any help, -doug === Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 USA --- 970-407-6410 (phone) 970-407-5410 (e-fax) mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com http://www.advanced-energy.com http://www.advanced-energy.com/ === - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: WEEE Directive
Doug, I would have thought you would already have come across the symbol for the crossed-out wheeled bin in the directive 93/86/EEC which adapts to technical progress Council Directive 91/157/EEC on batteries and accumulators containing certain dangerous substances, the dangerous substances being lead, cadmium, and mercury. The WEEE directive is a real bag of worms - it bans the use of lead based solder for a start ! I'm afraid I haven't been following the progress of this particular directive very diligently, since it is really environmental rather than safety, but there is certainly a lot of criticism from industry flying around. John Crabb, Development Excellence (Product Safety) , NCR Financial Solutions Group Ltd., Kingsway West, Dundee, Scotland. DD2 3XX E-Mail :john.cr...@scotland.ncr.com Tel: +44 (0)1382-592289 (direct ). Fax +44 (0)1382-622243. VoicePlus 6-341-2289. -Original Message- From: POWELL, DOUG [SMTP:doug.pow...@aei.com] Sent: 03 August 1999 01:01 To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: WEEE Directive Hello group, This may be off-topic, then again it maybe not. It is regulatory for electronic equipment. I currently have a copy of the second draft of the Proposal for a directive on waste from electrical and electronic equipment. Now I have done a fair amount of searching about this and located a number of pages to review on the Eur-Lex website. But I still am not sure what the impact is for my company. It appears that manufacturers will eventually be required to provide a free service for recycling their obsolete products. Does anyone know if and when this goes into force. And if this comes about what are the implications to manufacturers who import their products into the European Community. What is the appearance of this symbol described as a crossed-out wheeled bin? What notifications are required in user documentation? Is there a requirement to either provide or contract recycling centers? Thanks for any help, -doug === Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 USA --- 970-407-6410 (phone) 970-407-5410 (e-fax) mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com http://www.advanced-energy.com http://www.advanced-energy.com/ === - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: WEEE Directive
Doug, Try contacting Chris Robertson of ERA chris.robert...@era.co.uk 44 0 1372 367134 or Graham Adams of Motorola 44 0 1462 731580 Both of these individuals have written articles on the subject. I believe the proposed date is January 1, 2004. Best Regards, Jody Leber jle...@ustech-lab.com http://www.ustech-lab.com U. S. Technologies 3505 Francis Circle Alpharetta, GA 30004 770.740.0717 Fax: 770.740.1508 -Original Message- From: POWELL, DOUG [SMTP:doug.pow...@aei.com] Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 8:01 PM To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject:WEEE Directive Hello group, This may be off-topic, then again it maybe not. It is regulatory for electronic equipment. I currently have a copy of the second draft of the Proposal for a directive on waste from electrical and electronic equipment. Now I have done a fair amount of searching about this and located a number of pages to review on the Eur-Lex website. But I still am not sure what the impact is for my company. It appears that manufacturers will eventually be required to provide a free service for recycling their obsolete products. Does anyone know if and when this goes into force. And if this comes about what are the implications to manufacturers who import their products into the European Community. What is the appearance of this symbol described as a crossed-out wheeled bin? What notifications are required in user documentation? Is there a requirement to either provide or contract recycling centers? Thanks for any help, -doug === Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 USA --- 970-407-6410 (phone) 970-407-5410 (e-fax) mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com http://www.advanced-energy.com http://www.advanced-energy.com/ === - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
