[Emc-users] Spindle

2007-02-05 Thread Javier Ros Ganuza

Hello :)

For our project of a parallel manipulator, we want to attach an spindle
to the head.

Googling for spindles I'm not being too successful

I've found these

http://www.kress-elektrik.de/es/products/browse_products.php?categorie=765


and some others but quite far from what we need.

But I would like to put some thing more professional but with a geometry
an concept similar to the one of the above link, a system not very big,
because weight and space requirements in the parallel head.

We intend to machine aluminum as our heavier goal. 

It would be nice to hear some experts from the list in this subject.

I think European and American standards are different in this respect.
We prefer European ones. Nevertheless any information is welcome.

Thanks to all in advance


Javier




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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle

2007-02-05 Thread Manfredi Leto
Hi, my compliments for the project and the webpage, very nice.

The Kress spindle can machine aluminium without any problem. Of course you 
should use the right mills. If you want something more advanced, you could 
try High Frequency spindles...but you will need a HF driver and the whole 
system of course will cost to you  a lot more than a normal 240V AC Kress.

You can see some HF spindles here:

http://www.cnc-modellbau.de/shop/

or try the direct link if it works...:

http://s84728158.einsundeinsshop.de/sess/utn;jsessionid=1545c71543301d8/shopdata/0005_HF-Spindeln+=26amp=3B+Umrichter/product_overview.shopscript

Or here:

http://www.ronchinimassimo.com/elettromandrini_hf.htm

Or search on google and you will find others...

Regards,

Manfredi


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Subject: [Emc-users] Spindle
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:22:52 +0100


Hello :)

For our project of a parallel manipulator, we want to attach an spindle
to the head.

Googling for spindles I'm not being too successful

I've found these

http://www.kress-elektrik.de/es/products/browse_products.php?categorie=765


and some others but quite far from what we need.

But I would like to put some thing more professional but with a geometry
an concept similar to the one of the above link, a system not very big,
because weight and space requirements in the parallel head.

We intend to machine aluminum as our heavier goal.

It would be nice to hear some experts from the list in this subject.

I think European and American standards are different in this respect.
We prefer European ones. Nevertheless any information is welcome.

Thanks to all in advance


Javier




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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle

2007-02-05 Thread Lester Caine
Javier Ros Ganuza wrote:
 Hello :)
 
 For our project of a parallel manipulator, we want to attach an spindle
 to the head.
 
 Googling for spindles I'm not being too successful
 
 I've found these
 
 http://www.kress-elektrik.de/es/products/browse_products.php?categorie=765

It would be nice to find a source for the 6901E which is variable speed 
covering 8000 to 24000  There is another electronic variable spindle 
from Kress but I've not even got the part number of that one :(

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Re: [Emc-users] HOME Sensors

2007-02-05 Thread Jim Register
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:11 +0100, Javier Ros Ganuza wrote:
 Returning to my previous thread about HOMING. I did read the information
 pointed out here (section 5.4 of the manual), and there is some thing I
 can understand:
 
 What is index pulse?.
 
 I have brushless servos with quadrature encoders. Is the index pulse
 signal the one from the quadrature encoder, or is it a different signal
 (the one coming for hal sensors, something entirely different, or
 something that can be arbitrarily assigned within EMC, or..)???.

Javier,

The index pulse would come from the simulated encoder on the 631 servo
drive, on the X40 pins labeled Z and /Z.  

Jim



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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle

2007-02-05 Thread Javier Ros Ganuza
Thank very much, those are precisely the kind of spindles I was looking
for.

Javier

On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:54 +, Manfredi Leto wrote:
 Hi, my compliments for the project and the webpage, very nice.
 
 The Kress spindle can machine aluminium without any problem. Of course you 
 should use the right mills. If you want something more advanced, you could 
 try High Frequency spindles...but you will need a HF driver and the whole 
 system of course will cost to you  a lot more than a normal 240V AC Kress.
 
 You can see some HF spindles here:
 
 http://www.cnc-modellbau.de/shop/
 
 or try the direct link if it works...:
 
 http://s84728158.einsundeinsshop.de/sess/utn;jsessionid=1545c71543301d8/shopdata/0005_HF-Spindeln+=26amp=3B+Umrichter/product_overview.shopscript
 
 Or here:
 
 http://www.ronchinimassimo.com/elettromandrini_hf.htm
 
 Or search on google and you will find others...
 
 Regards,
 
 Manfredi
 
 
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 Subject: [Emc-users] Spindle
 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:22:52 +0100
 
 
 Hello :)
 
 For our project of a parallel manipulator, we want to attach an spindle
 
 to the head.
 
 Googling for spindles I'm not being too successful
 
 I've found these
 
 http://www.kress-elektrik.de/es/products/browse_products.php?categorie=765
 
 
 and some others but quite far from what we need.
 
 But I would like to put some thing more professional but with a geometry
 an concept similar to the one of the above link, a system not very big,
 because weight and space requirements in the parallel head.
 
 We intend to machine aluminum as our heavier goal.
 
 It would be nice to hear some experts from the list in this subject.
 
 I think European and American standards are different in this respect.
 We prefer European ones. Nevertheless any information is welcome.
 
 Thanks to all in advance
 
 
 Javier
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle

2007-02-05 Thread Manfredi Leto
Well, here is the ELTE (an italian factory) home page:

http://www.eltesrl.com/

Of course I think on google you can find a lot more HF spindles...so you can 
choose the one that is best suitable for your application.

Regards,

Manfredi


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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:10:01 +0100

Thank very much, those are precisely the kind of spindles I was looking
for.

Javier


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Re: [Emc-users] HOME Sensors

2007-02-05 Thread Javier Ros Ganuza
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 07:53 -0500, Jim Register wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:11 +0100, Javier Ros Ganuza wrote:
  Returning to my previous thread about HOMING. I did read the information
  pointed out here (section 5.4 of the manual), and there is some thing I
  can understand:
  
  What is index pulse?.
  
  I have brushless servos with quadrature encoders. Is the index pulse
  signal the one from the quadrature encoder, or is it a different signal
  (the one coming for hal sensors, something entirely different, or
  something that can be arbitrarily assigned within EMC, or..)???.
 
 Javier,
 
 The index pulse would come from the simulated encoder on the 631 servo
 drive, on the X40 pins labeled Z and /Z.  
 

In our case, the Z or /Z are not simulated (I think :) ), the brushless
have a quadrature encoder, and we are driving all to the motenc-100
terminal board.


http://imac/parallel/images/argazkiak/DSCN1697.JPG shows the conection
of the RJ45 standard ethernet cable to the board (left-up)

And in http://imac/parallel/images/argazkiak/DSCN1691.JPG you can see
the Oposite end of the same RJ45 cable, conected to the X40 input.

We have configured the 631 servo to output quadrature signals from X40.



So if I got the idea: 

We can use index pulse, and the index pulse is taken from the Z
and/or /Z signals that is being fed to the card. So activating index
pulse in the HOMING configuration will work (in fact it works but we
didn't  known if index pulse was actually being used) using index
pulse.???

So in general (just for curiosity), index pulse is always taken from Z
and/or /Z signal from quadrature encoder???


Many thanks

Javier Ros



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[Emc-users] Hal comands....

2007-02-05 Thread osman fikri kocabas
Hello 
  Beginer Kocabas write...  
  Thanks for help Mr. Manfredi Leto. 
  I download Ubuntu 6.06 with emc2 and upgarade from internet. 
  - do I need load the cvs sources and RTOS and RTAPI for use  Hal commands? 
  - In the cvs sources are there RTOS and RTAPI?
  I did copy of sample configurations..   With somes programs my cnc milling 
works.
  For hals commands  But I couldn't run in emc2$ halrun.It shows taht 
'there isn't file like this'
  - In some grafic I can edit (arange) the Hal configurati#305;on another one 
I can't .
  - How I can regle Hal configuration?
   
  Best regards..  
   
   

 
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Re: [Emc-users] Hal comands....

2007-02-05 Thread Jeff Epler

On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:07:59AM -0800, osman fikri kocabas wrote:
   - do I need load the cvs sources and RTOS and RTAPI for use  Hal commands? 

No.  To use HAL, you only need to install the binary packages.

   I did copy of sample configurations..   With somes programs my cnc milling 
 works.
   For hals commands  But I couldn't run in emc2$ halrun.It shows taht 
 'there isn't file like this'

halrun is a new script in emc 2.1.  If you are using emc 2.0.5, then
you do not have it.  To upgrade to emc 2.1.0, follow these instructions:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UpdatingTo2.1
and make the necessary changes to your configuration files, if you have
customized them:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UPDATING

   - In some grafic I can edit (arange) the Hal configurati#305;on another 
 one I can't .
   - How I can regle Hal configuration?

At present, editing the .hal file in a text editor is the primary way of
creating or modifying the HAL configuration.

Jeff

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Re: [Emc-users] HOME Sensors

2007-02-05 Thread Stan Blosser
The home switches I'm using are from Automation Direct 
(www.automationdirect.com) and they're cheap too, at $13.75 ea.  Just go 
to their site and search for P/N AAP2T14Z11.  They offer them with 
different actuators (plunger, roller, lever, etc.), and claim a repeat 
accuracy of 0.01mm at 1 million operations.


RogerN wrote:
 McMaster Carr has some ultra precision limit switches with 1 micron 
 actuation.
 http://www.mcmaster.com/
 Go to their online catalog page 861 at the bottom of the page.  Or search 
 for ultra precision limit switch.
 They're expensive but it's nice to know they exist if you can justify the 
 price.

   
   

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[Emc-users] Loadrt a new module error

2007-02-05 Thread dushaohua
I'm using the Ubuntu 6.06 which has the emc2 in it.I made a new module named 
Mlink,and changed the module_helper.c by adding Mlink in it .When I run the 
emc2,it said 
HAL:5:ERROR:insmod failed,returned 1
But when I use the lsmod ,it has been inserted.I don't know where the error 
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Re: [Emc-users] Loadrt a new module error

2007-02-05 Thread Jeff Epler
Have you looked in dmesg for the actual insmod error?  What other
troubleshooting have you done?

Jeff

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC2.1 Live CD

2007-02-05 Thread Jack Ensor
Thanks for all the help that has been provided.  Yes the drive was too 
small and after switching ot a larger drive it installed fine. Now I 
need to work out details of getting dialup to work and the laser jet 
printer to work with it. I'm currently plowing thru that.
Jack Ensor

Alex Joni wrote:

Unfortunately, your message is too large to reach the list.
However, I looked at the error and it seems that the HDD is too small.
You need at least 2GB of hard drive space to install Ubuntu.

Best regards,
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