Re: [Emc-users] encoders
Hi Dave, The motors are Minertia brand by Yaskawa Electric of Japan and are model mos FA5S-CA11 and FA5X-CA31. I can't find any info about these on the web. The encoders are 1000 line with no index pulse. I have put some pictures up on my website - *http://tinyurl.com/6nf3sz **http://tinyurl.com/5w9942 **http://tinyurl.com/6c3btx *and * **http://tinyurl.com/5z82df *As you can see, the board has a 2903 dual comparator chip which appears to take in A+ and B+ to one comparator and A- and B- to the other and send the resulting two outputs to the existing wiring. At the bottom of the board there are also the A+, A-, B+ and B- connections - presently unused and these are connected directly to the four connections to the lower part of the optics. This is an entirely separate piece to the LED and is apparently glued directly to the board. On the existing wiring, all the blacks appear to be grounds and all the reds are +5v. I am assuming that the motors are probably 12 volts but I'm not sure as I didn't remove them from the plotter.* * -- Best wishes, Ian Ian W. Wright Sheffield UK The difference between theory and practice is much smaller in theory than in practice... - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Engrave-11 Z test at 50 percent
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 07:46 -0500, John Domville wrote: Heinz Reimer, Thanks for the input. I will check into the information you provided. Seems a shame thought to have to use a counter weight on Z axis as the system should have been designed to move it own weight. If you have any pictures on the counter weight you used please send them to me. John Domville -Original Message- From: Heinz Reimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:57 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Engrave-11 Z test at 50 percent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and on each one of axis pages there is the following settings Motor Steps per rev 200 Driver Micro Stepping 4.0 Max Velocity 1.0 in/sec Max Acceleration 30.0 in/sec. John I used a much lower accel. You might try 5 rather than 30. Rayh - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Graphical Interface
-Original Message- From: Chris Radek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 November 2008 11:57 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Graphical Interface On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 11:17:57PM +0200, Dave Houghton wrote: Hello everyone I see there are several interfaces available, I've decided upon AXIS. However Editing or Tool Table/Editing is only available if I configured an editor in my ini file. Editing is available in tkemc and mini so I was wondering why was the editing; Tool table/editing was left out of AXIS? This was not an accident; it was a design decision that the user should be able to use any editor he likes. In the upcoming EMC2.3, AXIS will have a powerful tool table touch off that will free you from the tedium of manually editing the tool table for most operations. Hi Chris Sorry for the delay in responding, we had a thunder storm, so I switch the computer off until it's past. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't some really obscure reason in not having a text editor. I will probably be back soon asking how do I load an editor, but first let me read the manuals/instructions. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Graphical Interface
-Original Message- From: John Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 November 2008 03:16 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller EEMC Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Graphical Interface On 2 Nov 2008 at 13:27, Dave Houghton wrote: Just wanted to make sure there wasn't some really obscure reason in not having a text editor. I will probably be back soon asking how do I load an editor, but first let me read the manuals/instructions. Here is a good place to start http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//gui_axis.html#r1_11_5 then here http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//config_ini_config.html#r1_2_3 John Hello John Thank you, I have downloaded quite a few manuals, - even The Integrators Manual. (A more advanced document ...) gee whiz I don't really need a more advanced document I need a more basic simple document written for idiots like me. When it comes to computers I'm an idiot. So I need simple step by step, and one step at a time instructions, preferably in English using little words. (come on laugh it's meant to be funny). Can someone see if I'm on the right track. The following is where I'm at: Opened 'gedit' Opened emc2 Opened configs Opened smill.ini (I named my mill smill -Sherline mill) (so far so good) Now I have found [DISPLAY] Under [DISPLAY] there is no 'EDIT = ' in there so I assume I have to type in 'EDIT = gedit' (without the quotes) Question 1) Is the above correct? Question 2) where do I type it in? - at the top of the list - bottom of the list, or doesn't it matter. Thanks to everyone for you're patience. Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Engrave-11 Z test at 50 percent
Heinz Reimer, Thanks for the input. I will check into the information you provided. Seems a shame thought to have to use a counter weight on Z axis as the system should have been designed to move it own weight. If you have any pictures on the counter weight you used please send them to me. John Domville -Original Message- From: Heinz Reimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:57 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Engrave-11 Z test at 50 percent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok... Test one , with the delay/pause ran flauless. ( at 50 % feed over ride) Part two ( with out the delay/pause) had problems. It made a couple of cycles then started the binding noise again, on both the up and down movement of the Z axis. The tool did not stay .500 from the table but moved closer and closer until I terminated the program manually . Both tests were run with the AXIS slide bar for FEED OVERIDE at 50%. So where in the config do I cjhange what? On the main Driver page I have the following settings: Step Time 5000 Step Space 5000 Direction Hold 2 Direction Step 2 and on each one of axis pages there is the following settings Motor Steps per rev 200 Driver Micro Stepping 4.0 Max Velocity 1.0 in/sec Max Acceleration 30.0 in/sec. John - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] two questions
Take a look here http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TroubleShooting John On 2 Nov 2008 at 17:04, ygdan1001 wrote: hello! i did the latency test, the max jitter(base thread 25us) is 113511ns, it is over 100us, what should i do to improve them? then, i configurated the stepconf wizard , when i open my mill, there is a error: unexpected realtime delay: check dmesg for details. and when i open other files, there is also the error. could anybody give me some suggestions? thanks! yang -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] two questions
hello! i did the latency test, the max jitter(base thread 25us) is 113511ns, it is over 100us, what should i do to improve them? then, i configurated the stepconf wizard , when i open my mill, there is a error: unexpected realtime delay: check dmesg for details. and when i open other files, there is also the error. could anybody give me some suggestions? thanks! yang - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Graphical Interface
Dave Houghton wrote: [snip] Thank you, I have downloaded quite a few manuals, - even The Integrators Manual. (A more advanced document ...) gee whiz I don't really need a more advanced document I need a more basic simple document written for idiots like me. When it comes to computers I'm an idiot. So I need simple step by step, and one step at a time instructions, preferably in English using little words. (come on laugh it's meant to be funny). Heh, it is funny :) Can someone see if I'm on the right track. The following is where I'm at: Opened 'gedit' Opened emc2 Opened configs Opened smill.ini (I named my mill smill -Sherline mill) And here is where you see why simple, step by step instructions fail. You named your configuration smill, someone else names theirs my-mill, someone else has a lathe, someone else names the config Bridgeport1. Things get confusing when the instructions have to like this: [...] Open the configuration named the same as you used in step 3 Open the file with the extension .ini, with the same name as the configuration you're modifying. [...] At some point, the user must think about what they're doing, and step-by-step instructions with placeholders like those above will make less sense than open the ini file in the editor of your choice, and make the following changes. (so far so good) Now I have found [DISPLAY] Under [DISPLAY] there is no 'EDIT = ' in there so I assume I have to type in 'EDIT = gedit' (without the quotes) Question 1) Is the above correct? I believe the option is EDITOR, not EDIT Question 2) where do I type it in? - at the top of the list - bottom of the list, or doesn't it matter. Doesn't matter. - Steve - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Graphical Interface
On 2 Nov 2008 at 13:27, Dave Houghton wrote: Just wanted to make sure there wasn't some really obscure reason in not having a text editor. I will probably be back soon asking how do I load an editor, but first let me read the manuals/instructions. Here is a good place to start http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//gui_axis.html#r1_11_5 then here http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//config_ini_config.html#r1_2_3 John - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Graphical Interface
Heh, it is funny :) Can someone see if I'm on the right track. The following is where I'm at: Opened 'gedit' Opened emc2 Opened configs Opened smill.ini (I named my mill smill -Sherline mill) And here is where you see why simple, step by step instructions fail. You named your configuration smill, someone else names theirs my-mill, someone else has a lathe, someone else names the config Bridgeport1. Things get confusing when the instructions have to like this: [...] Open the configuration named the same as you used in step 3 Open the file with the extension .ini, with the same name as the configuration you're modifying. [...] At some point, the user must think about what they're doing, and step-by-step instructions with placeholders like those above will make less sense than open the ini file in the editor of your choice, and make the following changes. (so far so good) Now I have found [DISPLAY] Under [DISPLAY] there is no 'EDIT = ' in there so I assume I have to type in 'EDIT = gedit' (without the quotes) Question 1) Is the above correct? I believe the option is EDITOR, not EDIT Question 2) where do I type it in? - at the top of the list - bottom of the list, or doesn't it matter. Doesn't matter. - Steve Hi Steve Thanks a million for you're quick response. Got it EDITOR not EDIT. Can't even get that right! Yes course it's EDITOR . Done it, and it works. Thank you Steve,and all Best regards Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Graphical Interface
On 2 Nov 2008 at 15:37, Dave Houghton wrote: Hello John Thank you, I have downloaded quite a few manuals, - even The Integrators Manual. (A more advanced document ...) gee whiz I don't really need a more advanced document I need a more basic simple document written for idiots like me. When it comes to computers I'm an idiot. So I need simple step by step, and one step at a time instructions, preferably in English using little words. (come on laugh it's meant to be funny). Can someone see if I'm on the right track. This is the driving force behind the Getting Started Guide. Also the latest version of the Stepper Config Wizard automagically adds the editor... Now I have found [DISPLAY] Under [DISPLAY] there is no 'EDIT = ' in there so I assume I have to type in 'EDIT = gedit' (without the quotes) What Steve said... Question 1) Is the above correct? No Question 2) where do I type it in? - at the top of the list - bottom of the list, or doesn't it matter. I like to add to the bottom of the list but it don't matter where you put it as long as your after the [DISPLAY] and before the next section. Thanks to everyone for you're patience. Dave -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] encoders
You are likely to see two kinds of encoders: TTL and differential (rs422). TTL means there's a single wire for the each signal (e.g. A), and it roughly follows TTL voltage level for high and low signals. differential means there are two wires for each signal (e.g., A+ and A-). The logic-level value is determined by looking at the difference in voltage between A+ and A-, and this gives increased immunity to certain kinds of noise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_signaling Differential signals are intended to be decoded into a logic-level signal with a chip called a differential receiver such as the ones in this family: http://www.national.com/mpf/DS/DS26LS33M.html If you scope one phase and it looks like a clean, logic-level signal then it is sure possible to use it and ignore the complimentary signal. Jeff - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Plasma noise resistant box
Hal Eckhart wrote: Thanks for responding, Jon. I don't really know what a commercial-grade noise filter is, but I do have a fancy surge supressor. It never helped with the old system much. Hal, Sola is a company that manufactures higher end isolation transformers, surge suppressors and constant voltage transformers. I have acquired some of these from older equipment that was getting scrapped. A constant voltage transformer takes in a wide voltage range like 95-150VAC and outputs a constant 118VAC output. This is good for power line fluctuation where there are brownouts and overages from motors that brake and dump the kinetic energy back into the power lines. Just do a search on ebay. Sola's surge suppressors are going to be in the $100 range on ebay as opposed to a $20 fancy plastic one. Protecting from a one-time event ($20 unit) is different than a constant environment of transient abuse. It has been a while but I used to frequent the 3M surplus store in Minneapolis and they had all kinds of industrial surplus. I'm sure they had some Sola products. I am using a rotary phase converter on my Bridgeport VMC. I had a problem when the spindle quickly ramped down to zero during a stop spindle or a tool change. The kinetic energy in the spindle dumped back through the spindle driver and back into the power lines. Since the rotary phase converter was not as rigid as the power lines my voltage at the rotary phase converter would jump more than 15% or so. When the Bridgeport saw the voltage kick up too high it would fault and require a reset. It was a hard fault and the Z axis would fall about 0.050. A constant voltage transformer would have been a band-aid and probably would have worked in my case. Instead I decided to put a 1.5 second RC filter in the analog spindle command (0-10Vdc) line. This accomplished a couple of things for me. Spindle ramp up and down became smoother providing less wear on the spindle and drive and power fluctuations went away. Once upon a time, I fired the plasma is the air 5 feet away from a short piece of zip cord with a digital VOM on it. It registered 1000 volts, which is the limit. Like you said, the energy from a plasma spark alone can radiate as electromagnetic noise and be picked up in a loop of wire some distance away. If this were my setup I would put the PC in a Faraday cage (a metal box with adequate cooling but shielded much the same way a microwave oven is). I think the Dell GX270s are mostly plastic so they are inviting EMI directly into the motherboard and I/O cards. The problem with replacing a PC whenever it dies is that the PC may issue a rapid servo command before it gives out. You can monitor EMI noise and transients by connecting a neon bulb and an LED in series. If the voltage is high enough to get the neon to ionize the neon will blip but the LED will have a brighter flash. I would connect 2 LEDs back to back and in opposite directions to detect any positive and negative transients. You can take an old PC and connect the neon bulb LED setup from any input or output you want to monitor and ground of the PC. If enough voltage is induced in an encoder line, etc. the neon bulb and one of the LEDs should blip. The transients may also be too fast or too low in energy to see anything but just enough to cause damage. If transients are getting into the PC through I/O lines, the Faraday cage won't help much. In a super noisy environment I would personally run fiber optic transceivers between the PC in a Faraday cage and the machine. Now that optical S/PDIF cables are a couple of bucks on ebay you can run 15' of plastic fiber between your PC and the rest of the world. The trick is to find a S/PDIF transceiver board with enough I/O to completely pass all the I/O back and forth to the PC. You might have to make a pair of custom isolation PC boards. Dennis J. Deyen Product Design Mgr. Pedersen Power Products 3900 Dahlman Ave. Omaha NE 68107 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Tool File
Hello To All You knew this was coming. I have opened the Tool file and in the Diameter column it lists the following: 0.0625 0.125 1.25 etc Obviously put in as inch diameters (numbers), I'm set up as mm, am I correct in thinking that the tool diameter 1.25 will be read automatically by my set up as 1.25 mm diameter. Once my tool table is done I just put T(with it's unsigned integer) in the Gcode , and hey presto I'm off and running. Am I correct? It will be a first if I am. And one more thing is an unsigned integer the same as an unassigned integer - personally I think number sounds good. Getting close to milling! Regards Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Engrave-11 Z test at 50 percent
On Sunday 02 November 2008, John Domville wrote: Heinz Reimer, Thanks for the input. I will check into the information you provided. Seems a shame thought to have to use a counter weight on Z axis as the system should have been designed to move it own weight. If you have any pictures on the counter weight you used please send them to me. John Domville -Original Message- From: Heinz Reimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:57 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Engrave-11 Z test at 50 percent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok... Test one , with the delay/pause ran flauless. ( at 50 % feed over ride) Part two ( with out the delay/pause) had problems. It made a couple of cycles then started the binding noise again, on both the up and down movement of the Z axis. The tool did not stay .500 from the table but moved closer and closer until I terminated the program manually . Both tests were run with the AXIS slide bar for FEED OVERIDE at 50%. So where in the config do I cjhange what? On the main Driver page I have the following settings: Step Time 5000 Step Space 5000 Direction Hold 2 Direction Step 2 and on each one of axis pages there is the following settings Motor Steps per rev 200 Driver Micro Stepping 4.0 Max Velocity 1.0 in/sec Max Acceleration 30.0 in/sec. Both MAXVEL and MAXACCELERATION are likely too fast, that vel corresponds to 60 ipm, and my machine, with 20 tpi screws, direct coupled, is about tapped out at 20 ipm. Reduce that to say 0.25 for starters, it can always be raised later. MAXACCEL here is in the 3 range So you are trying to adjust a motors speed 10 times quicker than I can without problems. Try 2.5, it can always be raised. My machine (Harbor Freight Micromill) may have slightly bigger motors. And you can see my (West Virginia engineered) solution for a head counter springing method at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc, also the rest of the mess and mods to it, including a whole new z drive method. The micromill has what I'd call a design flaw in that the z drive screw is behind the post, like the Sherline, which puts all the binding forces directly into the gibs. My setup originally would bind up a 425 oz motor at 5 pounds of downforce. What you see now can put 155 pounds on a drill bit. John - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The trouble with heart disease is that the first symptom is often hard to deal with: death. -- Michael Phelps - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tool File
-Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 November 2008 06:19 PM Select a tool with T#. Load it with M6. Turn on tool length compensation with G43, or off with G49. Turn on tool radius compensation with G41 or G42, and off with G40. When in tool radius compensation mode, there are various (sometimes onerous) restrictions on movement. Relevant sections of the documentaiton include: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode_main.html#sub:T:-Select-Tool http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode_main.html#M6%20Tool%20Change http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode_main.html#sub:G43,-G49:-Tool http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode_main.html#G40,%20G41,%20G41.1,%20G42,%20 G42.1%20Cutter%20Radius%20Compensation http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode_main.html#sec:Cutter-Radius-Compensation And one more thing is an unsigned integer the same as an unassigned integer - personally I think number sounds good. That is a bit of programmer talk, just as nonnegative integer would be mathematician talk. An unsigned integer is a number without a decimal point or a minus sign: 0, 1, 2, and so on. Jeff Hi Jeff Thanks - seems I'm on a roll - uh should not have said that. Thanks Jeff Regards Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Plasma noise
One thought on the plasma noise. Controlled Power in MI makes some very good products for eliminating noise and harmonics. Full disclosure-I work for the company that represents CP in Las Vegas. We have used their products to resolves noise and harmonic issues in a variety of industrial environments. On the other hand they may be more than is needed in this case. They are not cheap, but it sounds like you have already tried some of the low cost options. Here is the link-look at the power purifiers. http://www.controlledpwr.com/Power_Quality_Applications.html I hope this helps. Javid - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Engrave-11 Z test at 50 percent
Ray Henry wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and on each one of axis pages there is the following settings Motor Steps per rev 200 Driver Micro Stepping 4.0 Max Velocity 1.0 in/sec Max Acceleration 30.0 in/sec. John I used a much lower accel. You might try 5 rather than 30. Holy COW! No wonder he is having problems, that is VERY fast acceleration for a small machine. (Just to clarify John's post, that 30 is actually 30 in/sec^2.) Jon - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Plasma noise resistant box
A metal box only provides a Farday cage to prevent inducing noise into signals. What is much more important is to understand and design your ground current paths so they are not going to induce any common mode or differential mode currents where they will cause problems. You will also want to understand the concept of a ground pavilion. An inductive filter of incoming power can be important, as is proper shielding isolation of drive and sensor signals. Beyond that, most people get lost buying expensive gadgets that won't correct the underlying design flaws. The ever repeated flaw is failing to use home-run grounding and thinking that connecting every thing to ground at every point is a good idea. Isolating grounds can often solve puzzling problems. Failing to consider both common and differential mode noise sources produces strange explanation from even electrical engineers. Failing to realize that a wire connected to ground at one end is not at ground on the other end, if it is carrying current is endemic. See - http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Lightning_Failures_in_Transducers Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned. -- Mark Twain - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Engrave-11 Z test at 50 percent
I ended up setting the acceleration to 10 and the velocity to .5 and engrave-11 is Working like a charm. I also selected 50% feed rate over ride in AXIS. Now I need to do some research on engraving (routing) PCB foil paths. John - Elmira N -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Engrave-11 Z test at 50 percent Ray Henry wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and on each one of axis pages there is the following settings Motor Steps per rev 200 Driver Micro Stepping 4.0 Max Velocity 1.0 in/sec Max Acceleration 30.0 in/sec. John I used a much lower accel. You might try 5 rather than 30. Holy COW! No wonder he is having problems, that is VERY fast acceleration for a small machine. (Just to clarify John's post, that 30 is actually 30 in/sec^2.) Jon https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Thank you
Hi all Just a quick thank you to all of you that have helped me over the last couple of weeks. I haven't connected my Sherline mill up yet, but I will in the next few days. Going to play with EMC2, Gcodes, tool tables and tool changes first. You have not got rid of me I will be back. Best wishes to all Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] LINUX OS question
Being new to LINUX I have only begun to understand my way around this operating system. Most of what I know about LINUX was forced on me when I bought a SHERLINE mill and installed Ubuntu for the first time. Anyway, The question I have is how can I print out the contents of a sub-directory to a printer. In the pre-windows, DOS days it was possible to type: DIR/W LPT1 Which would send a directory listing to the printer on LPT1 Or DIR/W filename.txt Which would send a directory listing to a file which could then be opened In a text editor and then printed. Even under today's Windows you can do basically the same thing at the command prompt (cmd) So is there any way to do this under LINUX? John (NGDQ) (New GUY Dumb Question) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LINUX OS question
John Domville wrote: Being new to LINUX I have only begun to understand my way around this operating system. Most of what I know about LINUX was forced on me when I bought a SHERLINE mill and installed Ubuntu for the first time. Anyway, The question I have is how can I print out the contents of a sub-directory to a printer. In the pre-windows, DOS days it was possible to type: DIR/W LPT1 Which would send a directory listing to the printer on LPT1 Or DIR/W filename.txt Which would send a directory listing to a file which could then be opened In a text editor and then printed. Even under today's Windows you can do basically the same thing at the command prompt (cmd) So is there any way to do this under LINUX? John (NGDQ) (New GUY Dumb Question) The equivalent of DIR is ls. The /W in DIR/W is an option that tells DIR how to format it's output. ls has similar options. I don't recall what /W does - it's been a long time since I used DOS. But maybe ls -l is something like what you want? You can read the documentation for ls by typing man ls. man means show me the manual page, so man followed by a command name means show the manual for that command. You can experiment with various ls options without printing till you see what you like. Try ls by itself first, then maybe ls -l, etc. Once you have output you like, you can save it to a file with by redirecting it. ls -l somefile will store the output of the ls -l command in a file in the current directory called somefile. From there you can edit it, print it, etc. Regards, John Kasunich - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LINUX OS question
John Domville wrote: Being new to LINUX I have only begun to understand my way around this operating system. Most of what I know about LINUX was forced on me when I bought a SHERLINE mill and installed Ubuntu for the first time. Anyway, The question I have is how can I print out the contents of a sub-directory to a printer. In the pre-windows, DOS days it was possible to type: DIR/W LPT1 Which would send a directory listing to the printer on LPT1 Or DIR/W filename.txt Which would send a directory listing to a file which could then be opened In a text editor and then printed. ls filename.txt This is probably not the appropriate mailing list for general Linux questions - there are many other lists and books that cover this. If you just want enough info to cover most command line operations - there is 'Unix for Dummies' that will get you a fast start on these topics. The 'shell' (usually bash) will do everything that DOS copied from Unix, plus much much more. If you want to learn more than is covered in the 'Dummies books' I would recommend looking at the O'Riely 'Learning the bash Shell' book. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Ask any politician in private, It's a blast spending other peoples money. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LINUX OS question
Karl Schmidt wrote: This is probably not the appropriate mailing list for general Linux questions - there are many other lists and books that cover this. If you just want enough info to cover most command line operations - there is 'Unix for Dummies' that will get you a fast start on these topics. Agreed. Don't necessarily need a dead-tree book either, Google can find lots of stuff. Try this one: http://freeengineer.org/learnUNIXin10minutes.html Regards, John Kasunich - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Ground currents (was [OT] Plasma noise resistant box)
Karl Schmidt wrote Failing to realize that a wire connected to ground at one end is not at ground on the other end, if it is carrying current is endemic. Some years ago, while I was still at NIST, we held an international conference to address the building design/construction requirements necessary to create world class research facilities (which is a warm and fuzzy phrase, but never mind!). Every participant told stories about the problems they had experienced with ground-current induced noise. To the shock (so to speak) of the NIST staff who were present, an engineer from our own plant division confessed that until recently we had an extreme case in a laboratory building where the emf measured between neutral (the white wire in U.S. 120vac circuits, what we are accustomed to think of as ground) and earth was as much as 30 volts depending on the time of day and the particular pieces of electrical equipment in operation. Yikes! I had often heard stories of problems in industrial settings; I never suspected a clean lab environment could be just as bad. So can a shop. Regards, Kent - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LINUX OS question
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 06:34:01PM -0500, John Domville wrote: In the pre-windows, DOS days it was possible to type: DIR/W LPT1 By default, installing emc takes away all parallel-port devices from regular linux programs. This reduces the kinds of problems where a program tries to probe an attached printer and unintentionally causes the steppers or other attached hardware to do something. Unfortunately, it makes it difficult to use a true parallel-port printer once you've installed linux. If you have a USB printer (either native USB or using a USB adapter), then it will work normally on ubunutu even after you install emc2. Use the program System Administration Printing to set up these printers. The normal way to send something to the printer is using the lpr program, and a | (pipe) to send to a program instead of a device. The rough linux equivalent would then be ls -C | lpr Jeff - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD
In following a link from another post, I came across a reference to LignumCAD. It is a cad system for furniture design. I have just started reading the site but it looks like it could be promising. http://lignumcad.sourceforge.net/doc/en/HTML/index.html Brian On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, I figured it out. Your first link was to caelinux.org, which brings you to the wiki page. caelinux.com brings up the page that talks about SALOME. Mark At 07:18 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: Strange you didn't see a link. It's right there on first page at http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/ You have two options. Get full set of CAE software on a LiveDVD or download Salome only as separate package which would run on any Linux distro from this page - http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=44Itemid=40 CAELinux LiveDVD contains bunch of other software for CAE. I think it's worth exploring. On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:49 -0400, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: With a little more digging, I found this on the caelinux site: http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=44Itemid=40 There weren't any direct links to it, but I ended up finding it using the search box. Mark Mark At 05:46 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: is it this ? http://www.salome-platform.org/home/presentation/overview/ Dave Caroline - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] RTAI version (was: Realtime system did not load)
Alex recently wrote, in response to discussion about a system with more than 1G of ram not loading RTAI This was a known bug on the older system, like last year. I thought they got that fixed! Not so, or is Mario using an old version of Ubuntu? We fixed that on 6.06 dapper by not allowing the system to see more than 1G of ram. By the time haryd came up, the rtai people were aware of a solution, yet it wasn't part of rtai-3.6 which I used initially for the LiveCD. They fixed the issue for 3.6.1 which is now part of the linuxcnc repository. So if you have your updates installed, then it's definately fixed. I can't remember if I rebuilt the LiveCD to include rtai-3.6.1, but probably I didn't. Regards, Alex I ran into this issue with the 8.04 LiveCD back in May and had a brief email exchange about it with Jeff Epler (because I wanted to speak of other things with him). Armed with Jeff's response about the memory constraint that was imposed in the 6.06 LiveCD and the rtai fix y'all had been anticipating would be released in time for the 8.04-LiveCD build, I went looking for an easy way to determine what version of RTAI was actually running on my machine. To save others the time it took me to do this (of course I may just be the slow kid in the class and the rest of you already know the answer), there is a utility called rtai-config that can provide the answer when invoked with the --version option. Unfortunately, the location of this utility seems to be dependent on the kernel version because of the way the rtai extensions are built. On my machine, it's in the /usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/bin directory and currently it returns the answer 3.6.1, confirming Alex's comment that ...if you have your updates installed, then it's definitely fixed. I'll see if I can find an appropriate place to add this tidbit to the wiki. Regards, Kent PS - mentioning the wiki reminds me to take a moment to rant that we all should be explicitly date/time stamping our contributions and specifying their effectivity (e.g., the software versions to which they apply) so subsequent readers have a clue whether the information they are looking at is relevant to their problem. As EMC/EMC2 and the wiki both evolve over time it gets harder and harder to know what's hot and what's merely historically interesting. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD
Hmmm, Looks like an interesting concept but its development appears stagnant. Last copyright appears to be 2002. Still worth a browse at a minimum. Brian On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:57 PM, BRIAN GLACKIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: In following a link from another post, I came across a reference to LignumCAD. It is a cad system for furniture design. I have just started reading the site but it looks like it could be promising. http://lignumcad.sourceforge.net/doc/en/HTML/index.html Brian On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, I figured it out. Your first link was to caelinux.org, which brings you to the wiki page. caelinux.com brings up the page that talks about SALOME. Mark At 07:18 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: Strange you didn't see a link. It's right there on first page at http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/ You have two options. Get full set of CAE software on a LiveDVD or download Salome only as separate package which would run on any Linux distro from this page - http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=44Itemid=40 CAELinux LiveDVD contains bunch of other software for CAE. I think it's worth exploring. On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:49 -0400, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: With a little more digging, I found this on the caelinux site: http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=44Itemid=40 There weren't any direct links to it, but I ended up finding it using the search box. Mark Mark At 05:46 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: is it this ? http://www.salome-platform.org/home/presentation/overview/ Dave Caroline - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] RTAI version
Kent A. Reed wrote: [snip] Armed with Jeff's response about the memory constraint that was imposed in the 6.06 LiveCD and the rtai fix y'all had been anticipating would be released in time for the 8.04-LiveCD build, I went looking for an easy way to determine what version of RTAI was actually running on my machine. To save others the time it took me to do this (of course I may just be the slow kid in the class and the rest of you already know the answer), there is a utility called rtai-config that can provide the answer when invoked with the --version option. Unfortunately, the location of this utility seems to be dependent on the kernel version because of the way the rtai extensions are built. On my machine, it's in the /usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/bin directory and currently it returns the answer 3.6.1, confirming Alex's comment that ...if you have your updates installed, then it's definitely fixed. It's possible that running the following command will work regardless of what version you have: /usr/realtime-`uname -r`/bin/rtai-config the backquotes (`) tell bash to execute the command inside he quotes, then stick the result in the command line before executing the command. uname -r gives the revision of the kernel (the 2.6.24-15-rtai part), so this command would change depending on the kernel version running when you issue the command. The other interesting thing you can do is /usr/realtime*/bin/rtai-config (without the quotes). I'm not sure if that will run all matching commands or just the first one, but that will go to a directory that begins with realtime, and execute the bin/rtai-config found within it. I'll see if I can find an appropriate place to add this tidbit to the wiki. Regards, Kent PS - mentioning the wiki reminds me to take a moment to rant that we all should be explicitly date/time stamping our contributions and specifying their effectivity (e.g., the software versions to which they apply) so subsequent readers have a clue whether the information they are looking at is relevant to their problem. As EMC/EMC2 and the wiki both evolve over time it gets harder and harder to know what's hot and what's merely historically interesting. The very bottom of every wiki page has a last modified by line, which includes the time it was modified as well as who did it. There's also a link for View Other Revisions, where you can see every change that has been made to that page, along with the notes (if any) the editor put in when making the change. It's not quite CVS, but it's reasonably easy to go back to some date for a particular page (not the whole site though) - Steve - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD
On Sunday 02 November 2008, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: In following a link from another post, I came across a reference to LignumCAD. It is a cad system for furniture design. I have just started reading the site but it looks like it could be promising. http://lignumcad.sourceforge.net/doc/en/HTML/index.html I see by the site that it is still at version .2. I checked it 2, maybe 3 years ago and it wasn't really ready then at that same version. I don't have it anymore, it was a casualty of upgrading from FC2 to FC6 IIRC. Brian On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, I figured it out. Your first link was to caelinux.org, which brings you to the wiki page. caelinux.com brings up the page that talks about SALOME. Mark At 07:18 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: Strange you didn't see a link. It's right there on first page at http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/ You have two options. Get full set of CAE software on a LiveDVD or download Salome only as separate package which would run on any Linux distro from this page - http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=44I temid=40 CAELinux LiveDVD contains bunch of other software for CAE. I think it's worth exploring. On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:49 -0400, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: With a little more digging, I found this on the caelinux site: http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=44I temid=40 There weren't any direct links to it, but I ended up finding it using the search box. Mark Mark At 05:46 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: is it this ? http://www.salome-platform.org/home/presentation/overview/ Dave Caroline - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yeah, there are more important things in life than money, but they won't go out with you if you don't have any. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD
Gentle persons: I quite understand the desire to find CAD software that (1) is free as in beer and (2) runs directly in Linux. I yield to no one in my ardor for open source in general and GNU/Linux in particular. As I grow older, however, I find that pragmatism is overtaking idealism. With respect to CAD, two other characteristics are becoming paramount: (1) how easy is it for me to use a particular program without fuss and bother to design precise mechanical parts and (2) how easy is it for me to extract the design in a usable format. With respect to these characteristics, and especially the latter, I have blown hot and cold over various open-source CAD applications. Let me discuss a alternative that is not open source but can be free to the user. In the MS Windows domain, there is a very competent commercial 3D solid modeller called Alibre Design, for which there is a free lite version called Alibre Design Express (see http://www.alibre.com for details). In the years before I retired, I was an early adopter of Alibre Design to create some mechanical parts and assemblies in an underfunded project because the package was much less expensive than its competitors like SolidWorks, SolidEdge, ProEngineer, or Autodesk Inventor for similar features. The free Alibre Design Express has some restrictions, of course, but it retains the good user interface and the ability to export 3D models in well-known formats like IGES, SAT, and STEP that can be post-processed easily. (For that matter, if you've got the $$, Alibre has recently released a companion CAM package and also a woodworking package. They also have various offers for at home use of their non-free packages that I haven't explored.) I run Alibre Design Express on a Windows XP box to design parts. I haven't tried to run it over WINE on a Linux box, but then the el-cheapo boxes I have running Linux have neither the horsepower or the graphics capability needed anyway. Although my Windows XP box is reasonably well equipped and set up to dual boot into several different Linux distributions, it seems pointless to try running Alibre Design Express within a virtual Windows XP environment in Linux for the obvious reason that it's already running fine in Windows XP. Naturally, your situation may be entirely different but if you haven't tried this product I think you should. Regards, Kent PS - Leaving aside its user interface, SALOME GEOM has very good data import/export capability because it was intended to support interoperability between CAD modeling and computation software, its internal geometry functions are excellent, and, wonder of wonders, it exposes all its functions via a Python API, so I'm thinking seriously about how I could use it for script-driven as opposed to gui-driven design. Alibre Design and its commercial competitors expose a good deal of their functionality using MS Windows technologies such as COM and .NET, so one could drive them via Python as well, but somehow that's not as alluring to me. PPS - FreeCAD (no, not that one, the other one; see http://juergen-riegel.net/FreeCAD/Docu/index.php?title=Main_Page) might become the open-source 3D modeling application of choice, but it's still very early in its development and many claimed features appear to be planned rather than actual. The home page is peppered with phrases like will have... and will be PPPS - I have no connection with Alibre or any other CAD-application provider. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Successful computers: HobbyCNC and EMC2
Hi there everyone, I thought it would be useful to compile a list of computers that work well with a HobbyCNC Pro Kit and EMC2. I have had a lot of trouble with this but I know some people out there have done it. I have gone through. 4 computers in 3 weeks, each with lost steps but in quite different ways. Clearly, this is a result of the computer hardware. Can you provide specs such as: Computer manufacturer model (if applicable) Processor speed type Memory Version of Ubuntu Video Card Motherboard (If possible) Thanks! ~Peter - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Free 3D CADs on Linux WAS: BRL-CAD
snip features. The free Alibre Design Express has some restrictions, of course, but it retains the good user interface and the ability to export 3D models in well-known formats like IGES, SAT, and STEP that can be post-processed easily. (For that matter, if you've got the $$, Alibre has recently released a companion CAM package and also a woodworking package. They also have various offers for at home use of their non-free packages that I haven't explored.) There is recently a package called Alibre CAM Xpress, which is also free like Alibre Design Xpress. It only does 2.5D though, but it should be enough for most users. I think atm it's invite only, but if someone would like it, I can see if I can send out an invite. snip PPPS - I have no connection with Alibre or any other CAD-application provider. Ditto.. Regards, Alex - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Successful computers: HobbyCNC and EMC2
There is already a list started at: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Peter Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:22 AM Subject: [Emc-users] Successful computers: HobbyCNC and EMC2 Hi there everyone, I thought it would be useful to compile a list of computers that work well with a HobbyCNC Pro Kit and EMC2. I have had a lot of trouble with this but I know some people out there have done it. I have gone through. 4 computers in 3 weeks, each with lost steps but in quite different ways. Clearly, this is a result of the computer hardware. Can you provide specs such as: Computer manufacturer model (if applicable) Processor speed type Memory Version of Ubuntu Video Card Motherboard (If possible) Thanks! ~Peter - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users