Re: [Emc-users] Isel Davinci G-code
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:12:54 +, you wrote: On 19 December 2013 04:40, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: 2. In the GCode summary of the above pdf document, I see no reference to G17-G18-G19, which select the plane of the arc(s) it will move in. The manual states: The arc is defined by the movement of the two axes around a designated center point, from the current position to a specified end point. The two axes used will determine the plane in which the axes will move along the arc. But it is not inconceivable that they forgot to code that properly, or that full-3D was a paid-for option. I had one of these Isel machines. It worked after I fixed the power supply. It had blown the rectifier on the board. From what I recall it had a hard life in some Dental place making molds for pallets, teeth etc and the dust had acted like grinding paste in the slides. I replaced the balls in the slides with oversized ones and sold it on. It definitely would do arcs in any plane and didn't need G17, G18 or G19 From my old email sale info it used Techno CNC Interface (Servo GCODE) (Build #377) It may be he has a buggy build of software, or simply just incompatible gcode. Steve Blackmore -- -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Isel Davinci G-code
On 19 December 2013 04:40, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: 2. In the GCode summary of the above pdf document, I see no reference to G17-G18-G19, which select the plane of the arc(s) it will move in. The manual states: The arc is defined by the movement of the two axes around a designated center point, from the current position to a specified end point. The two axes used will determine the plane in which the axes will move along the arc. But it is not inconceivable that they forgot to code that properly, or that full-3D was a paid-for option. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Isel Davinci G-code
On Thursday 19 December 2013 08:33:48 andy pugh did opine: On 19 December 2013 04:40, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: 2. In the GCode summary of the above pdf document, I see no reference to G17-G18-G19, which select the plane of the arc(s) it will move in. The manual states: The arc is defined by the movement of the two axes around a designated center point, from the current position to a specified end point. The two axes used will determine the plane in which the axes will move along the arc. But it is not inconceivable that they forgot to code that properly, or that full-3D was a paid-for option. In that event, the OP should be downloading our install cd right now. Anything else is just escorting him down the garden path to an expensive captivity. Lurking here, and seeing the excitement over Roberts new TP, I see LinuxCNC as about to take a giant step forward in the industrial arena where spindle power and rpms, plus coolant are far more likely to exist than in my backyard shop, already exists and can be taken advantage of to increase production. Sure, I can jack up the voltages and make my mill move faster, but at a max revs of 2500, and a 200 watt motor that realistically makes it to about 1 amp on the meter, aka 100 watts and is in danger of hanging at that single amp, I simply can't cut fast enough to take advantage of this when a hang is an instant broken $15 tool. But that is my problem, and NOT LinuxCNC's. I am looking rather hungrily at the spate of 400 watt spindle motors that have shown up on fleabay for askings in the 70-90 range, as potential replacements for that whole outsized empty contraption called a 2 speed head on my toy mill. Having drilled tapped that casting for other very handy accessory tools. the ideal situation would be to expand the quill bore from 49mm, its present size, to 52mm which will fit the new motor as the ideal conversion path. But realistically I can't do that boring job, so the alternative is to just saw that quill bore off, and pretend there is enough iron behind it to be able to use the mounting kits available for the new motor. Most of which seem to be equipt with an 1/8 max tool diameter R8 or so collet. But 12k+ rpms sure whets my appetite to do just that. I have a 2nd casting on hand already, and can easily make another pair of the ball bearing base gib length enhancers that have finally fixed the stiction in the z axis motions, so that is certainly an option. But changing the casting also involves duplicating the mods that anchor the Z axis drive screw into that casting. That was all done free hand, and would be an easier job to do the swap if I just bought another post and built up another complete Z drive using a 16mm ball screw this time. Same rotating nut idea however. With my lathe now capable of doing that turning and boring for the ball bearing nut holder, I can come up with a working drive in half the time it took 6 years ago to make that one. It was 3 or so hours a day for several months once I had the plan in my head. I also have a MIG welder I didn't have then. Changing out the whole post would mean that there are no parts of the original $400 HF mill left sitting on that steel kitchen base cabinet. The base and table have already been replaced with the bigger ones from LMS. Mmm, I wonder how much the post and sled castings for the X3 cost, says he, to no one in particular. Thats its next flex point where additional iron would be useful. Need another coffee transfusion yet, Christmas gift exchange at the tv station at noonish. Gotta get moving. And damn this knee. A good nights sleep is always just out of reach. Put off getting old as long as you can guys, its not always just a long vacation. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene Style may not be the answer, but at least it's a workable alternative. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Isel Davinci G-code
I have been using Linux since 1997, so you preach to the converted. Unfortunately EMC does not work wioth Isel G-code at all. The machine communicates through a serail port not parallel. Unless some advances occurred with EMC the last past years that will drive the Isel it would be worth trying it again, but it never worked previous years. If all else fails I just have to write an interface myself. Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 18 December 2013 23:18:21 ad...@mmri.us did opine: I have a small Davinci CNC that I bought years ago for prototyping, but never used as my larger CNC gets all the work. On Page 47 and 48 of the manual in the link below, it describes the Gcode for Arcs. My machine cuts arcs in the X-Y plane but will not move e.g. in an arc whenever the Z-axis is involved. I need an arc in the Z-axis as I want to cut a concave cavity along the length of a block. I tried everything according to the manual, but it refuses to move in an arc in the X-Z or Y-Z axis. Any clue why it does not work with this machine? If the link below on Pages 47 and 48 are examples which are trivial to follow. All these examples work but they are in the XY axis only. If the following link wraps or is unclickable just google Stepper *DaVinci G*-*Code* Interface Manual http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/0049_ GCODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgved=0CB 8QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw 1. This is windows based code, so this is the wrong list. We may have heard of the name, but its safe to say we know relatively little about it. 2. In the GCode summary of the above pdf document, I see no reference to G17-G18-G19, which select the plane of the arc(s) it will move in. 3. Based on that, its a safe assumption that this code is hopelessly broken for what you want to do. 4. You can download, from linuxcnc.org, a cd image that will not only install linux, but linuxcnc at the same time. It may take a few days to fine tune the install for your uses, and it may take a day or 3 to get linuxcnc configured to drive your machine, likely much better than the Davinci code ever could. A network connection is assumed for all the updating that will be required since that cd image is now nearly 3 years old. I have a cat5 to all of my machines. 5. All this assumes the DaVinci interface is through a standard parallel port interface. It or even specialized wide data path cards are the standard for driving machines in real time. Serial ports are way too slow, ethernet has latencies that can destroy precision, and usb is even worse. So give it a try, I think you will be pleased. And if you do have problems, this IS the list to bring them to. So in effect you came to the right list after all. :) http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/0049_G CODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgved=0CB8 QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw Cheers, Gene -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Isel Davinci G-code
I think you are right that they must have forgotten it as cutting a concave cavity or a convex dome is a basic necessity for a CNC. andy pugh wrote: On 19 December 2013 04:40, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: But it is not inconceivable that they forgot to code that properly, or that full-3D was a paid-for option. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Isel Davinci G-code
Or modifiy your machine hardware to drive the maching via parallel port or mesa card ;) If it is stepper-based that should not be so complicated. Le 19/12/2013 18:40, ad...@mmri.us a écrit : I have been using Linux since 1997, so you preach to the converted. Unfortunately EMC does not work wioth Isel G-code at all. The machine communicates through a serail port not parallel. Unless some advances occurred with EMC the last past years that will drive the Isel it would be worth trying it again, but it never worked previous years. If all else fails I just have to write an interface myself. Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 18 December 2013 23:18:21 ad...@mmri.us did opine: I have a small Davinci CNC that I bought years ago for prototyping, but never used as my larger CNC gets all the work. On Page 47 and 48 of the manual in the link below, it describes the Gcode for Arcs. My machine cuts arcs in the X-Y plane but will not move e.g. in an arc whenever the Z-axis is involved. I need an arc in the Z-axis as I want to cut a concave cavity along the length of a block. I tried everything according to the manual, but it refuses to move in an arc in the X-Z or Y-Z axis. Any clue why it does not work with this machine? If the link below on Pages 47 and 48 are examples which are trivial to follow. All these examples work but they are in the XY axis only. If the following link wraps or is unclickable just google Stepper *DaVinci G*-*Code* Interface Manual http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/0049_ GCODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgved=0CB 8QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw 1. This is windows based code, so this is the wrong list. We may have heard of the name, but its safe to say we know relatively little about it. 2. In the GCode summary of the above pdf document, I see no reference to G17-G18-G19, which select the plane of the arc(s) it will move in. 3. Based on that, its a safe assumption that this code is hopelessly broken for what you want to do. 4. You can download, from linuxcnc.org, a cd image that will not only install linux, but linuxcnc at the same time. It may take a few days to fine tune the install for your uses, and it may take a day or 3 to get linuxcnc configured to drive your machine, likely much better than the Davinci code ever could. A network connection is assumed for all the updating that will be required since that cd image is now nearly 3 years old. I have a cat5 to all of my machines. 5. All this assumes the DaVinci interface is through a standard parallel port interface. It or even specialized wide data path cards are the standard for driving machines in real time. Serial ports are way too slow, ethernet has latencies that can destroy precision, and usb is even worse. So give it a try, I think you will be pleased. And if you do have problems, this IS the list to bring them to. So in effect you came to the right list after all. :) http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/0049_G CODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgved=0CB8 QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw Cheers, Gene -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Isel Davinci G-code
On Thursday 19 December 2013 16:51:28 yann jautard did opine: Or modifiy your machine hardware to drive the maching via parallel port or mesa card ;) If it is stepper-based that should not be so complicated. Parport card, Startech full EPP capable, $15 USD. Replace your serial interface board with something along the lines of a CNC4PC C1G, and wire it direct to your stepper drivers. The C1G isn't all that pricey. And I find its LED tallies are extremely valuable debugging tools. Very smallish price to multiply the capabilities of the machine by a relatively large figure. Le 19/12/2013 18:40, ad...@mmri.us a écrit : I have been using Linux since 1997, so you preach to the converted. Unfortunately EMC does not work wioth Isel G-code at all. The machine communicates through a serail port not parallel. Unless some advances occurred with EMC the last past years that will drive the Isel it would be worth trying it again, but it never worked previous years. If all else fails I just have to write an interface myself. Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 18 December 2013 23:18:21 ad...@mmri.us did opine: I have a small Davinci CNC that I bought years ago for prototyping, but never used as my larger CNC gets all the work. On Page 47 and 48 of the manual in the link below, it describes the Gcode for Arcs. My machine cuts arcs in the X-Y plane but will not move e.g. in an arc whenever the Z-axis is involved. I need an arc in the Z-axis as I want to cut a concave cavity along the length of a block. I tried everything according to the manual, but it refuses to move in an arc in the X-Z or Y-Z axis. Any clue why it does not work with this machine? If the link below on Pages 47 and 48 are examples which are trivial to follow. All these examples work but they are in the XY axis only. If the following link wraps or is unclickable just google Stepper *DaVinci G*-*Code* Interface Manual http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/00 49_ GCODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgve d=0CB 8QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw 1. This is windows based code, so this is the wrong list. We may have heard of the name, but its safe to say we know relatively little about it. 2. In the GCode summary of the above pdf document, I see no reference to G17-G18-G19, which select the plane of the arc(s) it will move in. 3. Based on that, its a safe assumption that this code is hopelessly broken for what you want to do. 4. You can download, from linuxcnc.org, a cd image that will not only install linux, but linuxcnc at the same time. It may take a few days to fine tune the install for your uses, and it may take a day or 3 to get linuxcnc configured to drive your machine, likely much better than the Davinci code ever could. A network connection is assumed for all the updating that will be required since that cd image is now nearly 3 years old. I have a cat5 to all of my machines. 5. All this assumes the DaVinci interface is through a standard parallel port interface. It or even specialized wide data path cards are the standard for driving machines in real time. Serial ports are way too slow, ethernet has latencies that can destroy precision, and usb is even worse. So give it a try, I think you will be pleased. And if you do have problems, this IS the list to bring them to. So in effect you came to the right list after all. :) http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/00 49_G CODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgved =0CB8 QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw Cheers, Gene -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg. clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.cl ktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list
[Emc-users] Isel Davinci G-code
I have a small Davinci CNC that I bought years ago for prototyping, but never used as my larger CNC gets all the work. On Page 47 and 48 of the manual in the link below, it describes the Gcode for Arcs. My machine cuts arcs in the X-Y plane but will not move e.g. in an arc whenever the Z-axis is involved. I need an arc in the Z-axis as I want to cut a concave cavity along the length of a block. I tried everything according to the manual, but it refuses to move in an arc in the X-Z or Y-Z axis. Any clue why it does not work with this machine? If the link below on Pages 47 and 48 are examples which are trivial to follow. All these examples work but they are in the XY axis only. If the following link wraps or is unclickable just google Stepper *DaVinci G*-*Code* Interface Manual http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/0049_GCODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgved=0CB8QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/0049_GCODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgved=0CB8QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw; -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Isel Davinci G-code
On Wednesday 18 December 2013 23:18:21 ad...@mmri.us did opine: I have a small Davinci CNC that I bought years ago for prototyping, but never used as my larger CNC gets all the work. On Page 47 and 48 of the manual in the link below, it describes the Gcode for Arcs. My machine cuts arcs in the X-Y plane but will not move e.g. in an arc whenever the Z-axis is involved. I need an arc in the Z-axis as I want to cut a concave cavity along the length of a block. I tried everything according to the manual, but it refuses to move in an arc in the X-Z or Y-Z axis. Any clue why it does not work with this machine? If the link below on Pages 47 and 48 are examples which are trivial to follow. All these examples work but they are in the XY axis only. If the following link wraps or is unclickable just google Stepper *DaVinci G*-*Code* Interface Manual http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/0049_ GCODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgved=0CB 8QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw 1. This is windows based code, so this is the wrong list. We may have heard of the name, but its safe to say we know relatively little about it. 2. In the GCode summary of the above pdf document, I see no reference to G17-G18-G19, which select the plane of the arc(s) it will move in. 3. Based on that, its a safe assumption that this code is hopelessly broken for what you want to do. 4. You can download, from linuxcnc.org, a cd image that will not only install linux, but linuxcnc at the same time. It may take a few days to fine tune the install for your uses, and it may take a day or 3 to get linuxcnc configured to drive your machine, likely much better than the Davinci code ever could. A network connection is assumed for all the updating that will be required since that cd image is now nearly 3 years old. I have a cat5 to all of my machines. 5. All this assumes the DaVinci interface is through a standard parallel port interface. It or even specialized wide data path cards are the standard for driving machines in real time. Serial ports are way too slow, ethernet has latencies that can destroy precision, and usb is even worse. So give it a try, I think you will be pleased. And if you do have problems, this IS the list to bring them to. So in effect you came to the right list after all. :) http://www.google.com/url?q=http://support.technocnc.com/support/0049_G CODE%2520STEPPER%2520DAVINCI.pdfsa=Uei=yGyyUo6bEZD7kQfL8oG4Dgved=0CB8 QFjAAusg=AFQjCNG9KI0a2ruQooY0rq5yVxaqd-XoSw Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene Now that I have my APPLE, I comprehend COST ACCOUNTING!! A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
