Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/10/2014 2:41 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/10/2014 1:12 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I still can't see the BBB on the network. On a power up or reset, the 3 lights next to the reset button sequence on one by one and the lights on the RJ45 jack flash briefly. I'm going to reflash the uSD card and try it again. If that doesn't work, you might try pressing the reset button a couple seconds after you apply power and holding it for a few seconds. I have occasionally had boards that didn't always properly see the Ethernet phy, and this seemed to help. Otherwise, you need at least an HDMI cable, and preferably a USB serial cable. There's no substitute for being able to see what's going on. I got a HDMI cable and found out that when it boots, the lights near the mini USB come on in sequence but nothing ever shows up on the HDMI screen. I made using the procedure on this page: http://blog.machinekit.io/p/machinekit_16.html Starting at :Write the SD Card I'm using Linux 12.04 to create the uSD card. I'm using a Sandisk Class 4 uSD - 8 gigabytes in size. The HDMI cable is good since I can boot the BBB without the uSD and it boots properly. But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. Dave If you have a PC with Windows can use this image http://webshop.juve.ro/download/bb-lcnc-machinekit-2013_12_10_aj05.img Connect the BeagleBone with PC by a USB cable and run the start.bat after the boot. -- From:Prof. Ernesto Lo Valvo CNC Lab Unipa - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjobmz18Hn_B-s89ctCoQmg Dipartimento di Ingegneria Chimica, Gestionale, Informatica e Meccanica Universita' di Palermo Viale delle Scienze 90128 Palermo (Italy) -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Hi, I just downloaded the March 5 version of MachineKit. MDA5 checks OK. Everything fresh. I then went to the terminal and ran LinuxCNC and chose the BeBoPr-Bridge option. It is failing in the hal when attempting to: loadrt [PRUCONF](DRIVER) Has something changed? Do I need to recompile something first? I do not have any capes connected. Thanks, Jeff Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:42:25 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Jeff I was fiddling round with that image yesterday. And when i copied my special pru_generic_fall.bin into the directory for my gecko's i could not find the original. I mentioned it to charles and he said it should be there but i could not see it. I got that image working on my machine and it boots up really quick. On 14/03/14 20:55, Jeff wrote: Hi, I just downloaded the March 5 version of MachineKit. MDA5 checks OK. Everything fresh. I then went to the terminal and ran LinuxCNC and chose the BeBoPr-Bridge option. It is failing in the hal when attempting to: loadrt [PRUCONF](DRIVER) Has something changed? Do I need to recompile something first? I do not have any capes connected. Thanks, Jeff Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:42:25 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Just to be clear, that image is *NOT* currently supported, I haven't even booted it on a BeagleBone. I was experimenting and Mark wanted to play with the image, so I threw it online. The build is a complete departure from previous builds, attempting to track the new official Debian release for the 'Bone created by Robert Nelson. I would be shocked if everything works out of the box, but if anyone wants to see where things are heading, this is the image to play with (LXDE desktop, chromium browser, etc). But it will probably be a couple weeks until I have time to iron the kinks out of the build process and get back to stable working images. A list of known issues would be *VERY* helpful, so make sure to doucment anything you run into on the wiki or at least email me. On 03/14/14 16:44, Mark Tucker wrote: Jeff I was fiddling round with that image yesterday. And when i copied my special pru_generic_fall.bin into the directory for my gecko's i could not find the original. I mentioned it to charles and he said it should be there but i could not see it. I got that image working on my machine and it boots up really quick. On 14/03/14 20:55, Jeff wrote: Hi, I just downloaded the March 5 version of MachineKit. MDA5 checks OK. Everything fresh. I then went to the terminal and ran LinuxCNC and chose the BeBoPr-Bridge option. It is failing in the hal when attempting to: loadrt [PRUCONF](DRIVER) Has something changed? Do I need to recompile something first? I do not have any capes connected. Thanks, Jeff Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:42:25 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Hi, OK. I wanted to try it because the December version didn't seem to boot to full speed (without upgrading the kernel). I'll just revert back for now. With the March version: I found the pru_generic.bin in the posix directory rather than the xenomai directory. I modified the ini file to reflect that, and I was able to get Axis running... But then the whole system froze. After rebooting I could not run the LinuxCNC selector. Some file apparently got trashed. I re-wrote the disk and started over. So now it seems to be working just fine. It does seem to boot MUCH faster. The new web browser is much better. The desktop seems fine (I downloaded new desktop wallpaper instead of the black screen). If I find anything else, I'll let you know. Thanks, Jeff Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:19:13 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup Just to be clear, that image is *NOT* currently supported, I haven't even booted it on a BeagleBone. I was experimenting and Mark wanted to play with the image, so I threw it online. The build is a complete departure from previous builds, attempting to track the new official Debian release for the 'Bone created by Robert Nelson. I would be shocked if everything works out of the box, but if anyone wants to see where things are heading, this is the image to play with (LXDE desktop, chromium browser, etc). But it will probably be a couple weeks until I have time to iron the kinks out of the build process and get back to stable working images. A list of known issues would be *VERY* helpful, so make sure to doucment anything you run into on the wiki or at least email me. On 03/14/14 16:44, Mark Tucker wrote: Jeff I was fiddling round with that image yesterday. And when i copied my special pru_generic_fall.bin into the directory for my gecko's i could not find the original. I mentioned it to charles and he said it should be there but i could not see it. I got that image working on my machine and it boots up really quick. On 14/03/14 20:55, Jeff wrote: Hi, I just downloaded the March 5 version of MachineKit. MDA5 checks OK. Everything fresh. I then went to the terminal and ran LinuxCNC and chose the BeBoPr-Bridge option. It is failing in the hal when attempting to: loadrt [PRUCONF](DRIVER) Has something changed? Do I need to recompile something first? I do not have any capes connected. Thanks, Jeff Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:42:25 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running the script to see if you're possibly missing something (the partition manager comes to mind). Alternately, you can just use the raw image file which you just dd straight onto the uSD card...no dependencies required. I'll load partition manager and see if that helps. If not I'll try and capture the output and look at it. It flies by on the screen so fast that I can't catch it just by interrupting the script and scrolling up.I can fall back to the DD solution, but it might be helpful if I can catch these errors. Thanks, Dave -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running the script to see if you're possibly missing something (the partition manager comes to mind). Alternately, you can just use the raw image file which you just dd straight onto the uSD card...no dependencies required. I'll load partition manager and see if that helps. If not I'll try and capture the output and look at it. It flies by on the screen so fast that I can't catch it just by interrupting the script and scrolling up.I can fall back to the DD solution, but it might be helpful if I can catch these errors. Thanks, Dave -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
I have a few BBB boards here. I tried it on two different boards. Same identical results. The BBB uSD card slot is not very robust. It would not be difficult to damage it. I''ll try a third BBB and see if there is a difference. I've also tried it on two different uSD cards. Dave On 3/13/2014 11:33 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running the script to see if you're possibly missing something (the partition manager comes to mind). Alternately, you can just use the raw image file which you just dd straight onto the uSD card...no dependencies required. I'll load partition manager and see if that helps. If not I'll try and capture the output and look at it. It flies by on the screen so fast that I can't catch it just by interrupting the script and scrolling up.I can fall back to the DD solution, but it might be helpful if I can catch these errors. Thanks, Dave -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running the script to see if you're possibly missing something (the partition manager comes to mind). Alternately, you can just use the raw image file which you just dd straight onto the uSD card...no dependencies required. I'll load partition manager and see if that helps. If not I'll try and capture the output and look at it. It flies by on the screen so fast that I can't catch it just by interrupting the script and scrolling up.I can fall back to the DD solution, but it might be helpful if I can catch these errors. Thanks, Dave -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running the script to see if you're possibly missing something (the partition manager comes to mind). Alternately, you can just use the raw image file which you just dd straight onto the uSD card...no dependencies required. I'll load partition manager and see if that helps. If not I'll try and capture the output and look at it. It flies by on the screen so fast that I can't catch it just by interrupting the script and scrolling up.I can fall back to the DD solution, but it might be helpful if I can catch these errors. Thanks, Dave -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running the script to see if you're possibly missing something (the partition manager comes to mind). Alternately, you can just use the raw image file which you just dd straight onto the uSD card...no dependencies required. I'll load partition manager and see if that helps. If not I'll try and capture the output and look at it. It flies by on the screen so fast that I can't catch it just by interrupting the script and scrolling up.I can fall back to the DD solution, but it might be helpful if I can catch these errors. Thanks, Dave
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Mark, Am 13.03.2014 um 19:30 schrieb Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. very good point would you mind looking into the issue - getting rid of all non-essential packages and see if you can get the image below 2GB? that would be really helpful! what can go for sure is docs and the doc toolchain (texlive, asciidoc, dblatex etc) but that didnt get me below 3GB I think the key question to answer to is 'can you get below 2GB and still be able to rebuild on the BB' (i.e. development environment, headers etc all present) - Michael -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Michael Why would we need the developer enviroment on a running beaglebone/machinekit? Once it is running it can be left alone on the eMMc and boot off a big memory card for development. Or is it a case of when you have compiled linuxcnc,it will not run without the developer enviroment. I think as charles mentioned to me,What we need is a pre-built package from linuxcnc so it can just be installed through apt etc.without all the docs and manuals and other redundant stuff. I will be quite happy when i have it running right to lock it down,and only make a new image when substantial updates come along. The whole reason i switched from mach3 was to get away from computers breaking down in harsh workshop/garage enviroments every winter. The memory card image is the only weak link in what is a fantastic bit of kit. I now use it every day in a production enviroment and i am sure it will only get better. Regards Mark On 13/03/14 18:48, Michael Haberler wrote: Mark, Am 13.03.2014 um 19:30 schrieb Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. very good point would you mind looking into the issue - getting rid of all non-essential packages and see if you can get the image below 2GB? that would be really helpful! what can go for sure is docs and the doc toolchain (texlive, asciidoc, dblatex etc) but that didnt get me below 3GB I think the key question to answer to is 'can you get below 2GB and still be able to rebuild on the BB' (i.e. development environment, headers etc all present) - Michael -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
I have a total of 4 BBB's. All 4 boards respond in the same way to the uSD card created with the script. These boards were purchased as one lot, last year. The script is pulling files in off the web, so perhaps some of those source files have changed? At the moment I'm writing the 12/28/13 image to a uSD card using DD. I think that using the uSD card slot is a better idea even if it is a little fragile. Why constrain ourselves to 2 GB? The last 8 Gig card I bought was $8.00 or $1.00 per GB. Dave On 3/13/2014 1:42 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running the script to see if
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Am 13.03.2014 um 21:10 schrieb Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com: Michael Why would we need the developer enviroment on a running beaglebone/machinekit? good question. I might just have a different perspective on that question because I for me right now it is a development environment, which means lots of pull, build, test, repeat cycles for instance, we're preparing a demo for Charles's reprap show this weekend, and if everything goes right we will have the right half of this video running on an Android tablet in time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6xRGh_z7fc (note key fact: the UI on the right side does _not_ run on the beaglebone; it does however talk to the beaglebone HAL - its a normal gladevcp panel) happy to hear for you machinekit is almost an appliance! really a compliment to Charles for his excellent packaging job In fact I was already wondering because we see lots of downloads of the BB image ( 1000 by now) but very few complaints - wonder where these guys are ;) Once it is running it can be left alone on the eMMc and boot off a big memory card for development. Or is it a case of when you have compiled linuxcnc,it will not run without the developer enviroment. I think as charles mentioned to me,What we need is a pre-built package from linuxcnc so it can just be installed through apt etc.without all the docs and manuals and other redundant stuff. I will be quite happy when i have it running right to lock it down,and only make a new image when substantial updates come along. The whole reason i switched from mach3 was to get away from computers breaking down in harsh workshop/garage enviroments every winter. very interesting angle. I never thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense. The memory card image is the only weak link in what is a fantastic bit of kit. I now use it every day in a production enviroment and i am sure it will only get better. packaging a tree into a run-only image which is copied to flash makes perfect sense do you see a way how you can help with the effort? pretty sure Charles would not mind a hand with that job - all his scripts are public, so it's 'mere work' ;) fork on github, have a go at it - Michael Regards Mark On 13/03/14 18:48, Michael Haberler wrote: Mark, Am 13.03.2014 um 19:30 schrieb Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. very good point would you mind looking into the issue - getting rid of all non-essential packages and see if you can get the image below 2GB? that would be really helpful! what can go for sure is docs and the doc toolchain (texlive, asciidoc, dblatex etc) but that didnt get me below 3GB I think the key question to answer to is 'can you get below 2GB and still be able to rebuild on the BB' (i.e. development environment, headers etc all present) - Michael -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Am 13.03.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I have a total of 4 BBB's. All 4 boards respond in the same way to the uSD card created with the script. These boards were purchased as one lot, last year. The script is pulling files in off the web, so perhaps some of those source files have changed? yeah, that is my suspicion too, in particular the uboot boot loader ; I have a hard time imagining we get this far with an electrical issue in the SD slot anybody want to try replacing uboot or maybe the whole DOS partition from a know-to-work SD? I wouldnt suggest this as a hack for production work, but it might help isolate the issue -m At the moment I'm writing the 12/28/13 image to a uSD card using DD. I think that using the uSD card slot is a better idea even if it is a little fragile. Why constrain ourselves to 2 GB? The last 8 Gig card I bought was $8.00 or $1.00 per GB. Dave On 3/13/2014 1:42 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
I wrote the 4 GB image of the same date; 12/28/13 to a 8 GB uSD card with DD and I am getting exactly the same error. So both the uSD card created with the script and DD respond in exactly the same way. This looks like this may be isolated to the BBBs that I have? Perhaps I can update the firmware on the BBBs to get rid of this issue? Dave On 3/13/2014 3:35 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I have a total of 4 BBB's. All 4 boards respond in the same way to the uSD card created with the script. These boards were purchased as one lot, last year. The script is pulling files in off the web, so perhaps some of those source files have changed? yeah, that is my suspicion too, in particular the uboot boot loader ; I have a hard time imagining we get this far with an electrical issue in the SD slot anybody want to try replacing uboot or maybe the whole DOS partition from a know-to-work SD? I wouldnt suggest this as a hack for production work, but it might help isolate the issue -m At the moment I'm writing the 12/28/13 image to a uSD card using DD. I think that using the uSD card slot is a better idea even if it is a little fragile. Why constrain ourselves to 2 GB? The last 8 Gig card I bought was $8.00 or $1.00 per GB. Dave On 3/13/2014 1:42 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
I found the procedure to update the BBB onboard eeprom. I'll do that and report back. Dave On 3/13/2014 3:35 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I have a total of 4 BBB's. All 4 boards respond in the same way to the uSD card created with the script. These boards were purchased as one lot, last year. The script is pulling files in off the web, so perhaps some of those source files have changed? yeah, that is my suspicion too, in particular the uboot boot loader ; I have a hard time imagining we get this far with an electrical issue in the SD slot anybody want to try replacing uboot or maybe the whole DOS partition from a know-to-work SD? I wouldnt suggest this as a hack for production work, but it might help isolate the issue -m At the moment I'm writing the 12/28/13 image to a uSD card using DD. I think that using the uSD card slot is a better idea even if it is a little fragile. Why constrain ourselves to 2 GB? The last 8 Gig card I bought was $8.00 or $1.00 per GB. Dave On 3/13/2014 1:42 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 ** File not found /boot/uImage ** U-Boot# __ On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
I got it working. I updated the onboard Angstrom distribution on the eMMC and it fixed the problem of loading the uSD card with LinuxCNC. Windows OS instructions are here - look for Update board with latest software on this page: http://beagleboard.org/Getting+Started Unpacking the image file in Ubuntu 12.04 and then writing the card with DD worked fine as well. I used the Angstrom distribution for the BeagleBone Black on this page dated 2013-09-04. http://beagleboard.org/latest-images It took about 45 minutes for it to rewrite the onboard eMMC using the created update card. I used a 4GB uSD Sandisk Class 4 I had on hand. Thanks for the help. :-) Dave On 3/13/2014 3:35 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I have a total of 4 BBB's. All 4 boards respond in the same way to the uSD card created with the script. These boards were purchased as one lot, last year. The script is pulling files in off the web, so perhaps some of those source files have changed? yeah, that is my suspicion too, in particular the uboot boot loader ; I have a hard time imagining we get this far with an electrical issue in the SD slot anybody want to try replacing uboot or maybe the whole DOS partition from a know-to-work SD? I wouldnt suggest this as a hack for production work, but it might help isolate the issue -m At the moment I'm writing the 12/28/13 image to a uSD card using DD. I think that using the uSD card slot is a better idea even if it is a little fragile. Why constrain ourselves to 2 GB? The last 8 Gig card I bought was $8.00 or $1.00 per GB. Dave On 3/13/2014 1:42 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc ... Running uenvcmd ... reading zImage 3492416 bytes read in 399 ms (8.3 MiB/s) reading uInitrd ** Unable to read file uInitrd ** reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 24884 bytes read in 10 ms (2.4 MiB/s) Wrong Ramdisk Image Format
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
good job jeremy youngs On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: I got it working. I updated the onboard Angstrom distribution on the eMMC and it fixed the problem of loading the uSD card with LinuxCNC. Windows OS instructions are here - look for Update board with latest software on this page: http://beagleboard.org/Getting+Started Unpacking the image file in Ubuntu 12.04 and then writing the card with DD worked fine as well. I used the Angstrom distribution for the BeagleBone Black on this page dated 2013-09-04. http://beagleboard.org/latest-images It took about 45 minutes for it to rewrite the onboard eMMC using the created update card. I used a 4GB uSD Sandisk Class 4 I had on hand. Thanks for the help. :-) Dave On 3/13/2014 3:35 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I have a total of 4 BBB's. All 4 boards respond in the same way to the uSD card created with the script. These boards were purchased as one lot, last year. The script is pulling files in off the web, so perhaps some of those source files have changed? yeah, that is my suspicion too, in particular the uboot boot loader ; I have a hard time imagining we get this far with an electrical issue in the SD slot anybody want to try replacing uboot or maybe the whole DOS partition from a know-to-work SD? I wouldnt suggest this as a hack for production work, but it might help isolate the issue -m At the moment I'm writing the 12/28/13 image to a uSD card using DD. I think that using the uSD card slot is a better idea even if it is a little fragile. Why constrain ourselves to 2 GB? The last 8 Gig card I bought was $8.00 or $1.00 per GB. Dave On 3/13/2014 1:42 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same symptom, almost identical uboot outpput I eventually swapped the BB against a new one, and that booted the same SD card just fine! the SD card slot seems to be a bit fragile -m On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and write it to a card. Thanks, Dave U-Boot SPL 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 OMAP SD/MMC: 0 mmc_send_cmd : timeout: No status update reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB WARNING: Caches not enabled NAND: No NAND device found!!! 0 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn) musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0 Net: ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC cpsw, usb_ether Hit any key to stop autoboot: 1 0 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 mmc0 is current device micro SD card found mmc0 is current device gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 SD/MMC found on device 0 reading uEnv.txt 1701 bytes read in 3 ms (553.7 KiB/s) Loaded environment from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 03/11/2014 10:54 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: CPU frequency scaling was disabled in the kernel configuration as recommended by the Xenomai folks. The problem is, that leaves the CPU frequency set by the boot loader with no way to change it. Different versions of the boot loader run the CPU at different frequencies. Ahhh, this explains a LOT! Thanks! So, just loading the latest machinekit will have it running at full speed? Enjoy the reprap expo! (A little too far for me to travel.) Jon -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/12/2014 11:53 AM, Jon Elson wrote: So, just loading the latest machinekit will have it running at full speed? Yes, the latest kernels (-bone39 and later) have the dynamic frequency code compiled in, but the only thing enabled is the performance mode. So the processor will always run as fast as possible regardless of the boot loader setup, but won't dynamically change voltage/frequency operating points. Except for early in the boot sequence when the kernel switches itself to fast mode from whatever the boot-loader had configured. But that won't affect LinuxCNC operating latency. :) -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/10/2014 2:41 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/10/2014 1:12 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I still can't see the BBB on the network. On a power up or reset, the 3 lights next to the reset button sequence on one by one and the lights on the RJ45 jack flash briefly. I'm going to reflash the uSD card and try it again. If that doesn't work, you might try pressing the reset button a couple seconds after you apply power and holding it for a few seconds. I have occasionally had boards that didn't always properly see the Ethernet phy, and this seemed to help. Otherwise, you need at least an HDMI cable, and preferably a USB serial cable. There's no substitute for being able to see what's going on. I got a HDMI cable and found out that when it boots, the lights near the mini USB come on in sequence but nothing ever shows up on the HDMI screen. I made using the procedure on this page: http://blog.machinekit.io/p/machinekit_16.html Starting at :Write the SD Card I'm using Linux 12.04 to create the uSD card. I'm using a Sandisk Class 4 uSD - 8 gigabytes in size. The HDMI cable is good since I can boot the BBB without the uSD and it boots properly. But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. Dave -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running the script to see if you're possibly missing something (the partition manager comes to mind). Alternately, you can just use the raw image file which you just dd straight onto the uSD card...no dependencies required. -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Dave Have you tried using the 4gb image and just copy it over using DD ?. I had problems with the script installing the wrong kernal. But on saying that the networking worked on both. I just use the 4gb image and then expand the card to 8gb using gparted. On 12/03/14 19:49, Dave Cole wrote: On 3/10/2014 2:41 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/10/2014 1:12 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I still can't see the BBB on the network. On a power up or reset, the 3 lights next to the reset button sequence on one by one and the lights on the RJ45 jack flash briefly. I'm going to reflash the uSD card and try it again. If that doesn't work, you might try pressing the reset button a couple seconds after you apply power and holding it for a few seconds. I have occasionally had boards that didn't always properly see the Ethernet phy, and this seemed to help. Otherwise, you need at least an HDMI cable, and preferably a USB serial cable. There's no substitute for being able to see what's going on. I got a HDMI cable and found out that when it boots, the lights near the mini USB come on in sequence but nothing ever shows up on the HDMI screen. I made using the procedure on this page: http://blog.machinekit.io/p/machinekit_16.html Starting at :Write the SD Card I'm using Linux 12.04 to create the uSD card. I'm using a Sandisk Class 4 uSD - 8 gigabytes in size. The HDMI cable is good since I can boot the BBB without the uSD and it boots properly. But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. Dave -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. Although the completed card appears to have a root with files in it, etc. Nothing obvious is out of place. Perhaps I am missing some dependencies on the Linux 12.04 box? The uSD card creation script runs to completion. Anything obvious come to mind? If not, I'll attach a TTL to USB cable and see what a terminal window says when it boots. I have a Linux 10.04 box also that I can try and use to create the uSD card. The script should work on most recent Debian or Ubuntu systems, but there are some packages required that are not present by default. If you can, review the errors when running the script to see if you're possibly missing something (the partition manager comes to mind). Alternately, you can just use the raw image file which you just dd straight onto the uSD card...no dependencies required. I'll load partition manager and see if that helps. If not I'll try and capture the output and look at it. It flies by on the screen so fast that I can't catch it just by interrupting the script and scrolling up. I can fall back to the DD solution, but it might be helpful if I can catch these errors. Thanks, Dave -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Hi, Is there a set of instructions on how to upgrade? The MachineKit I have does show 363.67 MIPS with a cat /proc/cpuinfo I tried the instructions here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?XenomaiKernelPackages and got stuck. Apparently I'm not setting CODENAME properly (or something). I've never upgraded a kernel before so am pretty lost. Thanks, Jeff Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:35:42 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup On 3/10/2014 10:30 AM, Dave Cole wrote: I'm trying to start up a BBB with Charles' uSD image. I don't have a micro HDMI cable yet, but one is on the way. I believe that DHCP is enabled by default? If that is the case I should be able to SSH to it immediately after it boots, is that correct? Yes, DHCP is enabled by default, as is SSH. The first boot takes a while since it's generating new ssh keys, but you should be able to login remotely once it comes up. I can't see its address as it logs into my router, but the router I am using doesn't always accurate report the connections. nmap -sP local network IP range :) Once you get into the system, you might want to verify the kernel version. You might need to upgrade, there was a problem for a while with the kernel not running at full speed (cat /proc/cpuinfo to check the CPU speed). If you're not running close to 1 GHz, grab the -bone39 or -bone41 kernel from: http://www.machinekit.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/ -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/11/2014 1:08 PM, Jeff wrote: Hi, Is there a set of instructions on how to upgrade? The MachineKit I have does show 363.67 MIPS with a cat /proc/cpuinfo I tried the instructions here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?XenomaiKernelPackages and got stuck. Apparently I'm not setting CODENAME properly (or something). I've never upgraded a kernel before so am pretty lost. Those instructions are for an x86 PC, not a BeagleBone. I always just upgrade the kernel by hand. Use wget and download the appropriate kernel files: http://www.machinekit.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/v3.8.13xenomai-bone41/ Grab all four files that start with 3.8.13xenomai* Copy the *.zImage file to /boot/uboot/zImage cd to / (the root directory) and extract the *modules.tar.gz file cd to /lib/firmware and extract the *.firmware.tar.gz file cd to /boot/uboot/dtbs and extract the *dtbs.tar.gz file Reboot, and verify you're running the new kernel (uname -a) and the CPU speed is 1 GHz (cat /proc/cpuinfo). -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
Hi, Got it! Thanks. It is now at 990.68 MIPS with the newer kernel. If anyone else gives this a try, for some reason I had to un tar the dtbs file with a suffix tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz --no-same-owner without the --no-same-owner I was getting 'ownership' errors. Jeff Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:32:43 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup On 3/11/2014 1:08 PM, Jeff wrote: Hi, Is there a set of instructions on how to upgrade? The MachineKit I have does show 363.67 MIPS with a cat /proc/cpuinfo I tried the instructions here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?XenomaiKernelPackages and got stuck. Apparently I'm not setting CODENAME properly (or something). I've never upgraded a kernel before so am pretty lost. Those instructions are for an x86 PC, not a BeagleBone. I always just upgrade the kernel by hand. Use wget and download the appropriate kernel files: http://www.machinekit.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/v3.8.13xenomai-bone41/ Grab all four files that start with 3.8.13xenomai* Copy the *.zImage file to /boot/uboot/zImage cd to / (the root directory) and extract the *modules.tar.gz file cd to /lib/firmware and extract the *.firmware.tar.gz file cd to /boot/uboot/dtbs and extract the *dtbs.tar.gz file Reboot, and verify you're running the new kernel (uname -a) and the CPU speed is 1 GHz (cat /proc/cpuinfo). -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/11/2014 7:23 PM, Jeff wrote: Hi, Got it! Thanks. It is now at 990.68 MIPS with the newer kernel. If anyone else gives this a try, for some reason I had to un tar the dtbs file with a suffix tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz --no-same-owner without the --no-same-owner I was getting 'ownership' errors. Those are safe to ignore. Basically it's complaining about not being able to set unix file permissions on a FAT filesystem, which is a known issue. :) -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 03/11/2014 07:57 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/11/2014 7:23 PM, Jeff wrote: Hi, Got it! Thanks. It is now at 990.68 MIPS with the newer kernel. So, what is going on with the older machinekit installs? Do they actually not run the CPU at rated speed? I did notice that some things, like generating an initial SSH key took a VERY long time, and when I did more /proc/cpuinfo it showed a very low clock speed, like 200 MHz, but I wasn't sure I could trust that number. Thanks, Jon -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/11/2014 10:45 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 03/11/2014 07:57 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/11/2014 7:23 PM, Jeff wrote: Hi, Got it! Thanks. It is now at 990.68 MIPS with the newer kernel. So, what is going on with the older machinekit installs? Do they actually not run the CPU at rated speed? I did notice that some things, like generating an initial SSH key took a VERY long time, and when I did more /proc/cpuinfo it showed a very low clock speed, like 200 MHz, but I wasn't sure I could trust that number. CPU frequency scaling was disabled in the kernel configuration as recommended by the Xenomai folks. The problem is, that leaves the CPU frequency set by the boot loader with no way to change it. Different versions of the boot loader run the CPU at different frequencies. My boards would typically run at 500 or 750 MHz, but some run as slow as 350 MHz or so. I have since added back the frequency scaling support, but only compiled in the performance profile, so the CPU runs as fast as possible and stays there. The extra latency is caused by the CPU switching operating frequencies (which shuts *EVERYTHING* down for a few hundred uS or more while internal PLLs stabilize to their new frequencies), so this isn't an issue if you don't actually change operating frequencies on the fly. -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/10/2014 10:30 AM, Dave Cole wrote: I'm trying to start up a BBB with Charles' uSD image. I don't have a micro HDMI cable yet, but one is on the way. I believe that DHCP is enabled by default? If that is the case I should be able to SSH to it immediately after it boots, is that correct? Yes, DHCP is enabled by default, as is SSH. The first boot takes a while since it's generating new ssh keys, but you should be able to login remotely once it comes up. I can't see its address as it logs into my router, but the router I am using doesn't always accurate report the connections. nmap -sP local network IP range :) Once you get into the system, you might want to verify the kernel version. You might need to upgrade, there was a problem for a while with the kernel not running at full speed (cat /proc/cpuinfo to check the CPU speed). If you're not running close to 1 GHz, grab the -bone39 or -bone41 kernel from: http://www.machinekit.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/ -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/10/2014 10:35 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 3/10/2014 10:30 AM, Dave Cole wrote: I'm trying to start up a BBB with Charles' uSD image. I don't have a micro HDMI cable yet, but one is on the way. I believe that DHCP is enabled by default? If that is the case I should be able to SSH to it immediately after it boots, is that correct? Yes, DHCP is enabled by default, as is SSH. The first boot takes a while since it's generating new ssh keys, but you should be able to login remotely once it comes up. I can't see its address as it logs into my router, but the router I am using doesn't always accurate report the connections. nmap -sP local network IP range :) Once you get into the system, you might want to verify the kernel version. You might need to upgrade, there was a problem for a while with the kernel not running at full speed (cat /proc/cpuinfo to check the CPU speed). If you're not running close to 1 GHz, grab the -bone39 or -bone41 kernel from: http://www.machinekit.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/ Nice software tool. Thanks. I still can't see the BBB on the network. On a power up or reset, the 3 lights next to the reset button sequence on one by one and the lights on the RJ45 jack flash briefly. I'm going to reflash the uSD card and try it again. Dave -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup
On 3/10/2014 1:12 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I still can't see the BBB on the network. On a power up or reset, the 3 lights next to the reset button sequence on one by one and the lights on the RJ45 jack flash briefly. I'm going to reflash the uSD card and try it again. If that doesn't work, you might try pressing the reset button a couple seconds after you apply power and holding it for a few seconds. I have occasionally had boards that didn't always properly see the Ethernet phy, and this seemed to help. Otherwise, you need at least an HDMI cable, and preferably a USB serial cable. There's no substitute for being able to see what's going on. -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
Not to beat a dead horse too much, but at that price and power level, there's no reason to use an ARM board instead of an Atom board. The D510MO is fine (certain parallel port strangeness notwithstanding), as is the D945GCLF2, and a host of other brands. These boards are $90 or so with CPU, and about the same price as the Panda ($174) with a small SSD and 512M or more of memory. The total cost is a little higher than the Panda/Beagle though, since you also need a power supply. There are several vendors that make motherboards with a single DC input as well, though the total cost is often higher than a standard motherboard plus a PicoPSU. - Steve Gary P. Fiber wrote: New board coming out look at http://www.pandaboard.org/ New processor, 802.11 and bluetooth wireless, faster processor than the current Beagle Board. Pandaboard is not associated with beagleboard however -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:48 -0500, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Not to beat a dead horse too much, but at that price and power level, there's no reason to use an ARM board instead of an Atom board. The D510MO is fine (certain parallel port strangeness notwithstanding), as is the D945GCLF2, and a host of other brands. These boards are $90 or so with CPU, and about the same price as the Panda ($174) with a small SSD and 512M or more of memory. The total cost is a little higher than the Panda/Beagle though, since you also need a power supply. There are several vendors that make motherboards with a single DC input as well, though the total cost is often higher than a standard motherboard plus a PicoPSU. - Steve I read somewhere that X-Box has an ARM processor? I wonder if EMC2 or RTAI could be made to run on X-Box? Since they are made in the millions, they should be cheap. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:48 -0500, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: [snip] I read somewhere that X-Box has an ARM processor? I wonder if EMC2 or RTAI could be made to run on X-Box? Since they are made in the millions, they should be cheap. Given that Microsoft sues people who try to use their X-Boxes for anything other than playing games, and that they have no I/O whatsoever (except possibly USB, which isn't useful for us), This doesn't seem like such a great idea to me :) - Steve -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
On 11/08/2010 11:00 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I read somewhere that X-Box has an ARM processor? I wonder if EMC2 or RTAI could be made to run on X-Box? Since they are made in the millions, they should be cheap. Yes, but we STILL don't have RTAI running on the latest ARM cpu's. Also, how would you connect the motion drives to it? Jon -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
On 09/11/10 15:01, Jon Elson wrote: On 11/08/2010 11:00 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I read somewhere that X-Box has an ARM processor? I wonder if EMC2 or RTAI could be made to run on X-Box? Since they are made in the millions, they should be cheap. Yes, but we STILL don't have RTAI running on the latest ARM cpu's. Also, how would you connect the motion drives to it? Jon -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users the origionals are P3 733s the 360 is an odd IBM powerPC (think old mac) chip -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 22:01 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: On 11/08/2010 11:00 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I read somewhere that X-Box has an ARM processor? I wonder if EMC2 or RTAI could be made to run on X-Box? Since they are made in the millions, they should be cheap. Yes, but we STILL don't have RTAI running on the latest ARM cpu's. Also, how would you connect the motion drives to it? Jon I didn't think that far ahead. I don't have an X-Box but there is a possibility that there would be some unused I/O pins on the processor, but on the other hand, the processor is probably a BGA and the pins aren't brought out where one could get at them. Also, Steve reminded me of the Microsoft connection, which really kills the party. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
Hi Jon I wonder if the emc realtime compartibility layer can be adapted to native linux realtime using rt_preemt. Maybe this is a solution for future support of non x86 emc? Is there a document describing emc's minimal environment (besides sources)? Ulf -- Achieve Improved Network Security with IP and DNS Reputation. Defend against bad network traffic, including botnets, malware, phishing sites, and compromised hosts - saving your company time, money, and embarrassment. Learn More! http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpdev2dev-nov ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 11/3/2010 2:36 AM, dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: Hi Jon I wonder if the emc realtime compartibility layer can be adapted to native linux realtime using rt_preemt. Maybe this is a solution for future support of non x86 emc? Is there a document describing emc's minimal environment (besides sources)? Ulf Hi, Ulf. I had the same thought yesterday when I was searching on real time linux. A quick search of the emc-developers mail list shows the RT_Preempt patch has been discussed there. Recent traffic suggests progress is being made but the solution is not yet in hand. Regards, Kent -- Achieve Improved Network Security with IP and DNS Reputation. Defend against bad network traffic, including botnets, malware, phishing sites, and compromised hosts - saving your company time, money, and embarrassment. Learn More! http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpdev2dev-nov ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: Hi Jon I wonder if the emc realtime compartibility layer can be adapted to native linux realtime using rt_preemt. Maybe this is a solution for future support of non x86 emc RT-preempt is conceivably good enough for some servo systems, it is guaranteed never to be good enough for software step generation. I have seen numbers indicating that modern (2 GHz or so) CPUs could reliably get jitter down to tens of us on some motherboards, with a fair bit of effort. Just look on the rt-preempt HOWTO site and they show the demo with 86 us worst-case jitter on the highest priority task. (This assumes I am reading the chart correctly.) Most systems that work at all with RTAI have jitter in the range of 10 us. Jon -- Achieve Improved Network Security with IP and DNS Reputation. Defend against bad network traffic, including botnets, malware, phishing sites, and compromised hosts - saving your company time, money, and embarrassment. Learn More! http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpdev2dev-nov ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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New board coming out look at http://www.pandaboard.org/ New processor, 802.11 and bluetooth wireless, faster processor than the current Beagle Board. Pandaboard is not associated with beagleboard however -- Gary P. Fiber K8IZ General Radio Telephone Operators License PG-19-6691, with Shipboard Radar Endorsement. Washington State Resident. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient (s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- Achieve Improved Network Security with IP and DNS Reputation. Defend against bad network traffic, including botnets, malware, phishing sites, and compromised hosts - saving your company time, money, and embarrassment. Learn More! http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpdev2dev-nov ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Wednesday, November 03, 2010 01:36:56 pm Gary P. Fiber did opine: New board coming out look at http://www.pandaboard.org/ New processor, 802.11 and bluetooth wireless, faster processor than the current Beagle Board. Pandaboard is not associated with beagleboard however I see the last line of the announcement, which says it is not a low power board. Sounds as if it would need active cooling for good service life if one can burn his fingers handling the powered board. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Communicate! It can't make things any worse. -- Achieve Improved Network Security with IP and DNS Reputation. Defend against bad network traffic, including botnets, malware, phishing sites, and compromised hosts - saving your company time, money, and embarrassment. Learn More! http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpdev2dev-nov ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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I see the power supply is a 5 volt 4 amp device or 20 watts, not to bad but not likely easily operational on batteries. I just thought it was interesting verses the beagleboard as it has so much more available. A friend told new devices will be forth coming using the OMAP 4430 processor next year. Some use the current Beagleboard for Android simulation and development in the smart phone business. Always seems like something newer more powerful is on the horizon. Just like software defined radios in the Amateur Radio market place.-- Gary P. Fiber K8IZ General Radio Telephone Operators License PG-19-6691, with Shipboard Radar Endorsement. Washington State Resident. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient (s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- Achieve Improved Network Security with IP and DNS Reputation. Defend against bad network traffic, including botnets, malware, phishing sites, and compromised hosts - saving your company time, money, and embarrassment. Learn More! http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpdev2dev-nov ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Torsten Koschorrek, the ARM maintainer for RTAI has informed me he has an RTAI patch ready for the Beagle Board. Jon, is this Beagle Board + Touchscreen prototyping kit of any interest? http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/LiquidWare-DIY-Android-Modular-Gadget-Platform/?kc=LNXDEVNL102710 It looks like it could useful with Touchy? (Perhaps it's too small?) Erik -- I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it. - Groucho Marx -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Erik Christiansen wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Torsten Koschorrek, the ARM maintainer for RTAI has informed me he has an RTAI patch ready for the Beagle Board. Jon, is this Beagle Board + Touchscreen prototyping kit of any interest? http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/LiquidWare-DIY-Android-Modular-Gadget-Platform/?kc=LNXDEVNL102710 It looks like it could useful with Touchy? (Perhaps it's too small?) The screen is 480 x 272, which is pretty small, but i guess touchy could probably work on that. But, of course, the main problem is there is STILL no RTAI port for the Beagle or other OMAP CPUs. There is an rt-Linux port that was done by some French guys, but there was some question about whether EMC2 still supports the rt_Linux version of the RT interface, it apparently hasn't been tested in a number of years. If somebody wanted to test that on the X86 platform, it shouldn't be more than a weekend project to see if it compiles and runs in that environment. If it does, then it ought to port to the Beagle, up to the point of not having a parallel port. I have the fix for that, but would need to write a little driver to replace hal's parport.c for the Beagle pinout. Jon -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 11/2/2010 1:31 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Erik Christiansen wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Torsten Koschorrek, the ARM maintainer for RTAI has informed me he has an RTAI patch ready for the Beagle Board. Jon, is this Beagle Board + Touchscreen prototyping kit of any interest? http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/LiquidWare-DIY-Android-Modular-Gadget-Platform/?kc=LNXDEVNL102710 It looks like it could useful with Touchy? (Perhaps it's too small?) The screen is 480 x 272, which is pretty small, but i guess touchy could probably work on that. But, of course, the main problem is there is STILL no RTAI port for the Beagle or other OMAP CPUs. There is an rt-Linux port that was done by some French guys, but there was some question about whether EMC2 still supports the rt_Linux version of the RT interface, it apparently hasn't been tested in a number of years. If somebody wanted to test that on the X86 platform, it shouldn't be more than a weekend project to see if it compiles and runs in that environment. If it does, then it ought to port to the Beagle, up to the point of not having a parallel port. I have the fix for that, but would need to write a little driver to replace hal's parport.c for the Beagle pinout. Jon Well, maybe, Jon, but I just downloaded RTLinuxFree from Wind River Systems (who bought FSMLabs, who took RTLinux commercial a long time ago). The downloaded file is named rtlinux-3.2-wr.tar.bz2. The most recent Linux kernels for which it has patches are versions 2.4.29 and 2.6.9, which date back to 2004/2005. I can try my hand at compiling patched 2.4.29 and 2.6.9 kernels but first I want to be sure I can boot kernels this old on my development system. I'm 5 years dumber than I was in 2005 and I don't want to confuse hardware-support issues with rtlinux-emc2 issues. Regards, Kent -- Achieve Improved Network Security with IP and DNS Reputation. Defend against bad network traffic, including botnets, malware, phishing sites, and compromised hosts - saving your company time, money, and embarrassment. Learn More! http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpdev2dev-nov ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Kent A. Reed wrote: Well, maybe, Jon, but I just downloaded RTLinuxFree from Wind River Systems (who bought FSMLabs, who took RTLinux commercial a long time ago). The downloaded file is named rtlinux-3.2-wr.tar.bz2. The most recent Linux kernels for which it has patches are versions 2.4.29 and 2.6.9, which date back to 2004/2005. I can try my hand at compiling patched 2.4.29 and 2.6.9 kernels but first I want to be sure I can boot kernels this old on my development system. I'm 5 years dumber than I was in 2005 and I don't want to confuse hardware-support issues with rtlinux-emc2 issues. Hmmm, well, I wonder if patches for a kernel that old is going to tell us whether a rt_linux patch for the ARM CPU would be compatible with EMC2. I'd hate for you to go to a lot of work and not get much meaningful info from it. Jon -- Achieve Improved Network Security with IP and DNS Reputation. Defend against bad network traffic, including botnets, malware, phishing sites, and compromised hosts - saving your company time, money, and embarrassment. Learn More! http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpdev2dev-nov ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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At 12:17 PM 3/13/2010, you wrote: Elemental Hg isn't really very toxic at least compared to the organo-mercurials. If any of this stuff was as dangerous as some people would have us think we'd all be long gone. Benzene, toluene, methylene chloride, chloroform, trichloroethylene, asbestos, perchloric acid and a host of others were all part of my daily life. If you can smell benzene or toluene you are over the 8 hr limit. The easy way to clean up mercury is to sprinkle elemental sulfur over the spill just like you would absorbent on an oil spill. Maybe rub it a bit to mix and wait a decent amount of time. Then sweep up and maybe finish with vacuum. Dave Then call the hazmat team to dispose of the vacuum bag... =8^Þ Mark -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 06:29 -0500, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: At 01:37 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of those can't do at home kinda thingies... If you stick your hand past all the guards and manage to not tease the door sensors, it could mash your hand, that's about the worst it could do. An X-ray machine could be really dangerous to others, even at a good distance, if not properly shielded. I think that makes quite a difference, especially to federal regulatory agencies. Of course, I have a modified toaster oven for relowing the solder on boards, a whole darkroom with laser photoplotter to make master artwork which I now use to photo-etch solder stencils. And that's another thing, SOLDER! Yikes, having (Gasp) lead-bearing solder in your home, to hear some people talk you'd think it would turn your house into a superfund cleanup site. Jon Reminds me of how we used to play with mercury in science class in school. Now, if you happen to accidentally break one of those CFL bulbs in your home, you're supposed to call the hazmat crew... Mark Elemental Hg isn't really very toxic at least compared to the organo-mercurials. If any of this stuff was as dangerous as some people would have us think we'd all be long gone. Benzene, toluene, methylene chloride, chloroform, trichloroethylene, asbestos, perchloric acid and a host of others were all part of my daily life. If you can smell benzene or toluene you are over the 8 hr limit. The easy way to clean up mercury is to sprinkle elemental sulfur over the spill just like you would absorbent on an oil spill. Maybe rub it a bit to mix and wait a decent amount of time. Then sweep up and maybe finish with vacuum. Dave -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Saturday 13 March 2010, dave wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 06:29 -0500, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: At 01:37 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of those can't do at home kinda thingies... If you stick your hand past all the guards and manage to not tease the door sensors, it could mash your hand, that's about the worst it could do. An X-ray machine could be really dangerous to others, even at a good distance, if not properly shielded. I think that makes quite a difference, especially to federal regulatory agencies. Of course, I have a modified toaster oven for relowing the solder on boards, a whole darkroom with laser photoplotter to make master artwork which I now use to photo-etch solder stencils. And that's another thing, SOLDER! Yikes, having (Gasp) lead-bearing solder in your home, to hear some people talk you'd think it would turn your house into a superfund cleanup site. Jon Reminds me of how we used to play with mercury in science class in school. Now, if you happen to accidentally break one of those CFL bulbs in your home, you're supposed to call the hazmat crew... Mark Elemental Hg isn't really very toxic at least compared to the organo-mercurials. If any of this stuff was as dangerous as some people would have us think we'd all be long gone. Benzene, toluene, methylene chloride, chloroform, trichloroethylene, asbestos, perchloric acid and a host of others were all part of my daily life. If you can smell benzene or toluene you are over the 8 hr limit. Then I have been over my lifetime limit for some of that by orders of magnitude. And not because I thought it smelled nice either. If it was as bad as they claim, why am I still here at 75 YO? I shoulda been reduced to a raving lunatic needing a liver transplant 60 years ago. The easy way to clean up mercury is to sprinkle elemental sulfur over the spill just like you would absorbent on an oil spill. Maybe rub it a bit to mix and wait a decent amount of time. Then sweep up and maybe finish with vacuum. Good to know, but where can one find this elemental sulfur? Dave - - Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- --- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Referring to a book: I read part of it all the way through. -Samuel Goldwyn -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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If you go search the EPA site, they have how to handle metallic mercury spills, like breaking a mercury thermometer, or florescent light. The elemental sulfur is a good top, I had not heard of that method. http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/ - what to do if you break a florescent bulb, CFL, or mercury thermometer, etc. Bulk mercury (think mercury barometer that would have several pounds of mercury in it) might need something different. http://www.epa.gov/mercury/ - their general site on mercury, both good and overkill information, IMHO. I know their tree-hugger hearts are in the right place, but it might be a bit much for much of the real world. If you really want to make your own x-ray machine, it was published in the Scientific American in the Amateur Scientist column, years ago. Go to the library and find (I had to get it via inter-library loan), a book, The Scientific American Book of Projects for the Amateur Scientist, edited by C.L.Stong. The one I had years ago was before ISBN numbers were assigned. I had it in the late 1960's. They have several experiments that I am sure are currently labeled 'Don't do this at home'. I did the cloud chamber (with a small radium paint alpha source I got from the Atomic Energy Commission for asking), a NMR that would detect Flourine (not sensitive enough for much else, but it really worked), and a low velocity wind tunnel and instrumentation. I have thought of making my own seismic event recorder (my wife is a geophysicist by training). In all those things, I did go and purchase a 5 lb flask (about an ounce or two) for my younger brother (who was about 10 at the time). We played with it and made things. Given we were no evaporating it or ingesting it, we were pretty careful with it. I think we took it to the local high school for them to add to their chem lab after a few years of playing with it. When I was in high-school, I remember 'cleaning' the metallic mercury chemically in the high school chem lab (under the watchful eye of the chemistry teacher - who had a masters as was working on his PhD at the time). It came out with much less oxidation. I think I remember when working out the formulas for the reactions we actually returned the oxidized mercury back to metallic rather than just separating it for disposal. ... ahh memories. Sorry for the wandering thoughts. ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:17 AM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 06:29 -0500, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: At 01:37 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of those can't do at home kinda thingies... If you stick your hand past all the guards and manage to not tease the door sensors, it could mash your hand, that's about the worst it could do. An X-ray machine could be really dangerous to others, even at a good distance, if not properly shielded. I think that makes quite a difference, especially to federal regulatory agencies. Of course, I have a modified toaster oven for relowing the solder on boards, a whole darkroom with laser photoplotter to make master artwork which I now use to photo-etch solder stencils. And that's another thing, SOLDER! Yikes, having (Gasp) lead-bearing solder in your home, to hear some people talk you'd think it would turn your house into a superfund cleanup site. Jon Reminds me of how we used to play with mercury in science class in school. Now, if you happen to accidentally break one of those CFL bulbs in your home, you're supposed to call the hazmat crew... Mark Elemental Hg isn't really very toxic at least compared to the organo-mercurials. If any of this stuff was as dangerous as some people would have us think we'd all be long gone. Benzene, toluene, methylene chloride, chloroform, trichloroethylene, asbestos, perchloric acid and a host of others were all part of my daily life. If you can smell benzene or toluene you are over the 8 hr limit. The easy way to clean up mercury is to sprinkle elemental sulfur over the spill just like you would absorbent on an oil spill. Maybe rub it a bit to mix and wait a decent amount of time. Then sweep up and maybe finish with vacuum. Dave -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try
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On 13 March 2010 16:17, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: Elemental Hg isn't really very toxic at least compared to the organo-mercurials. More to the point, it's pretty, and fun! Dimethylmercury though? You don't want to be anywhere near it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Wetterhahn (Struggling to get back on topic) What would be the optimum cutting speed and temperature for machining mercury? -- atp -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 3/13/2010 6:29 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: At 01:37 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of those can't do at home kinda thingies... If you stick your hand past all the guards and manage to not tease the door sensors, it could mash your hand, that's about the worst it could do. An X-ray machine could be really dangerous to others, even at a good distance, if not properly shielded. I think that makes quite a difference, especially to federal regulatory agencies. Of course, I have a modified toaster oven for relowing the solder on boards, a whole darkroom with laser photoplotter to make master artwork which I now use to photo-etch solder stencils. And that's another thing, SOLDER! Yikes, having (Gasp) lead-bearing solder in your home, to hear some people talk you'd think it would turn your house into a superfund cleanup site. Jon Reminds me of how we used to play with mercury in science class in school. Now, if you happen to accidentally break one of those CFL bulbs in your home, you're supposed to call the hazmat crew... Mark In my Jr. High biology class back in the early 70's a student broke a large mercury thermometer and mercury balls were all over the lab floor. In order to clean up the mess, we all got on our knees and scooted the little mercury balls back together and the teacher picked up the resultant mercury puddle up with a pipette.As I recall he told us not to touch the liquid metal as it might not be a good thing. So we used paper etc to scoot the little balls around the floor. Amazingly I survived that eco disaster. ;-) If that happened today, I imagine the school would be evacuated and they would probably have to fill the classroom with concrete in order to contain the eco disaster. ;-) I think that was about the time I was working at the hardware store repairing small engines. My favorite parts cleaner was Carbon Tetrachloride . That stuff worked like magic, it cut grease really well. H, don't think you can buy that stuff anymore.. Jon if you want to get an Xray machine and keep it in a trailer. I might be hook you up with a lead lined trailer. I happen to know where you can get one. And the price is right! That way you could keep your superfund site on wheels and move it when necessary! If the feds come a knocking, you can claim that you have no idea where that semi trailer came from that is parked in front of your house ;-) Dave -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Ok, time to 'fess up back in the 60's when I was in grammar school (high school) we had chemistry lessons last thing on a friday afternoon. Now in those days in the UK we were still on the 'old money' and our copper pennies were about an inch in diameter. We also had a coin made of nickel called a half crown - worth 2 shillings and 6 pence - which was the same diameter as a penny. Now guess what some of us lads sometimes did on a friday afternoon before we caught the service bus home - yup, you got it, we mercury plated some pennies and when the harrassed bus conductor came down the bus for our fares, pushing his way through and being jostled by a horde of kids, he would be handed one of the plated pennies. More often than not, he would just glance at it, put it in his bag and issue the ticket along with the change for half a crown. I know now that it was a rotten thing to do, but in those days when many of our families were poor, it helped us buy the latest Elvis record which would be played in the common room at school Funny thing is, even though we dunked the pennies in Mercuric Chloride and then rubbed the mercury plating with our fingers to dull it down a bit, I still see some of the other lads who did it far more often than me and I haven't heard of any of them suffering any long-term effects. Ian -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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At 09:17 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote: Alex Joni wrote: snippage Also, inspecting the BGAs is done with an X-ray inspection system. Another cant do that at home process. Jon C'mon Jon, sure you could do it at home. Ronco has just come out with a new Home X-Ray Machine for $99.95. And if you order before midnight tonight, they'll even throw in a set of Ginsu knives... Mark -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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At 12:56 AM 3/12/2010, you wrote: Yanjun Luo wrote: It seems that you guys are very professional about it! I never try to manual solder it, I always let factory to solder it for me. I'll try to use BGA rework station later. Well, there are those of us who are basket-case tool nuts. For instance, I have a pick and place machine in my basement. Not one of those toy tabletop machines, either, but a 1600 Lb. 5 x 7 foot machine that does a very conservative 3600 components/hour and holds 60+ feeders. Jon Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of those can't do at home kinda thingies... Mark -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 12 March 2010 02:17, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Also, inspecting the BGAs is done with an X-ray inspection system. Another cant do that at home process. Unfortunately, that is true of me too now, but I used to work for a BGA inspection X-ray machine manufacturer as a mechanical designer. http://www.dage-group.com/xd7800nt950 If anyone is in the Colchester area and wants a couple of parts inspecting I might be able to arrange it. -- atp -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Jon, what's the problem? Don't you have the entire upstairs still available for an xray machine? Dave (admitted tool addict) On 3/12/2010 12:56 AM, Jon Elson wrote: Yanjun Luo wrote: It seems that you guys are very professional about it! I never try to manual solder it, I always let factory to solder it for me. I'll try to use BGA rework station later. Well, there are those of us who are basket-case tool nuts. For instance, I have a pick and place machine in my basement. Not one of those toy tabletop machines, either, but a 1600 Lb. 5 x 7 foot machine that does a very conservative 3600 components/hour and holds 60+ feeders. Jon -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: C'mon Jon, sure you could do it at home. Ronco has just come out with a new Home X-Ray Machine for $99.95. And if you order before midnight tonight, they'll even throw in a set of Ginsu knives... I'm in so deep, if the feds ever come for an inspection, I'll be doing my retirement at that nice retirement village they have in Leavenworth, KS! All I need is to add the NRC to the mix. I suspect they are even more obnoxious that the EPA. I really don't have much stuff that is all that dangerous, but you can get chemicals at the hardware store that could cause a real problem if you misused them. I can just IMAGINE what kind of case the division of family services could trump up to make a judge think I'm a greater menace than the local meth cook! So, Ron Popeil is still cooking up insane items to pitch on lathe night TV? The Popeil pocket X-ray? Never know when you might need to X-ray something? (I get my X-ray dose at work, we have a source that generates 2 million X-rays a second, OUTSIDE the safe it is kept in!) Jon -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of those can't do at home kinda thingies... If you stick your hand past all the guards and manage to not tease the door sensors, it could mash your hand, that's about the worst it could do. An X-ray machine could be really dangerous to others, even at a good distance, if not properly shielded. I think that makes quite a difference, especially to federal regulatory agencies. Of course, I have a modified toaster oven for relowing the solder on boards, a whole darkroom with laser photoplotter to make master artwork which I now use to photo-etch solder stencils. And that's another thing, SOLDER! Yikes, having (Gasp) lead-bearing solder in your home, to hear some people talk you'd think it would turn your house into a superfund cleanup site. Jon -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Yanjun Luo wrote: Here is my project web site, http://code.google.com/p/openomap/ WOW! Very impressive! How do you deal with the BGA parts? I don't know how to solder them. Jon -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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BGA's sure are tricky, but you can solder them manually using a hot air system (seen a friend of mine doing it a couple times). the only problem is aligning them, that takes a bit of skill... Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Yanjun Luo wrote: Here is my project web site, http://code.google.com/p/openomap/ WOW! Very impressive! How do you deal with the BGA parts? I don't know how to solder them. Jon -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Alex Joni wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:47:48 +0200 From: Alex Joni alex.j...@robcon.ro Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board BGA's sure are tricky, but you can solder them manually using a hot air system (seen a friend of mine doing it a couple times). the only problem is aligning them, that takes a bit of skill... Regards, Alex Yeah, just build up a little corral for the chip with maybe 5 mils or so slop on each side. (surface tension will bring chip into alignment when the solder balls melt) liberally flux and apply hot air gun to back of card, no solder paste needed. I wouldn't _ship_ anything done this way, but its OK for protos. Also do the BGA(s) first so you can sight underneath the chip to check for shorts... - Original Message - From: Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Yanjun Luo wrote: Here is my project web site, http://code.google.com/p/openomap/ WOW! Very impressive! How do you deal with the BGA parts? I don't know how to solder them. Jon -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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在 2010-03-11四的 11:49 -0600，Jon Elson写道： Yanjun Luo wrote: Here is my project web site, http://code.google.com/p/openomap/ WOW! Very impressive! How do you deal with the BGA parts? I don't know how to solder them. I sent the PCB board and chips to factory to solder them. Maybe I'll buy a BGA rework station later, so I can do it by myself. Yanjun Luo. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Alex Joni wrote: BGA's sure are tricky, but you can solder them manually using a hot air system (seen a friend of mine doing it a couple times). the only problem is aligning them, that takes a bit of skill... Aligning them could be done with a fixture with a square hole in it. But, if the solder balls bridge together or fail to connect, you have to take the part off and send it out for a $50 reballing procedure. I checked at Digi-Key, the OMAP3530 processor chip, alone goes for $84. Put the two memory chips on top of it, add all the other stuff, and no way could I make a Beagle for under $200. Obviously, other people can get the OMAP for a lot less than I can. Also, inspecting the BGAs is done with an X-ray inspection system. Another cant do that at home process. Jon -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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BGA's sure are tricky, but you can solder them manually using a hot air system (seen a friend of mine doing it a couple times). the only problem is aligning them, that takes a bit of skill... Regards, Alex Yeah, just build up a little corral for the chip with maybe 5 mils or so slop on each side. (surface tension will bring chip into alignment when the solder balls melt) liberally flux and apply hot air gun to back of card, no solder paste needed. I wouldn't _ship_ anything done this way, but its OK for protos. Also do the BGA(s) first so you can sight underneath the chip to check for shorts... It seems that you guys are very professional about it! I never try to manual solder it, I always let factory to solder it for me. I'll try to use BGA rework station later. Regards, Yanjun luo -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
在 2010-03-11四的 20:17 -0600，Jon Elson写道： Alex Joni wrote: BGA's sure are tricky, but you can solder them manually using a hot air system (seen a friend of mine doing it a couple times). the only problem is aligning them, that takes a bit of skill... Aligning them could be done with a fixture with a square hole in it. But, if the solder balls bridge together or fail to connect, you have to take the part off and send it out for a $50 reballing procedure. I checked at Digi-Key, the OMAP3530 processor chip, alone goes for $84. Put the two memory chips on top of it, add all the other stuff, and no way could I make a Beagle for under $200. Obviously, other people can get the OMAP for a lot less than I can. Also, inspecting the BGAs is done with an X-ray inspection system. Another cant do that at home process. There are two footprints for OMAP3530, one is Beagleboard used small one include mobile ddr and nand flash, it's really difficult to solder it. I choose another one, just the OMAP3530, 0.65mm pitch, this kind of footprint is ok for most of factory. Even for solder factory, the Beagleboard is not an easy job. I don't think we can manual solder it, the POP footprint need very strict temperature control. X-ray machine is very expensive, I use it years ago in the factory which solder BGA for me. OMAP3530 running 600M version with big footprint cost about USD 50 for some samples, TI China donate several of them for free. For most people, buy a Beagleboard is a better choice I think. I bought REV B7 last spring. Regards, Yanjun Luo. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Peter C. Wallace wrote: [snip] Yeah, just build up a little corral for the chip with maybe 5 mils or so slop on each side. (surface tension will bring chip into alignment when the solder balls melt) liberally flux and apply hot air gun to back of card, no solder paste needed. I wouldn't _ship_ anything done this way, but its OK for protos. Also do the BGA(s) first so you can sight underneath the chip to check for shorts... Do you do anything special in the layout so that heat transfers well from the other side of the board? Something like adding a small via on each pin or that kind of thing. I think I may have to make a board with a BGA part on it in the next couple of weeks, so I'm wondering if I should do anything special (so I can avoid the $150/board assembly costs for prototypes). Thanks - Steve -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:37:32 -0500 From: Stephen Wille Padnos spad...@sover.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Peter C. Wallace wrote: [snip] Yeah, just build up a little corral for the chip with maybe 5 mils or so slop on each side. (surface tension will bring chip into alignment when the solder balls melt) liberally flux and apply hot air gun to back of card, no solder paste needed. I wouldn't _ship_ anything done this way, but its OK for protos. Also do the BGA(s) first so you can sight underneath the chip to check for shorts... Do you do anything special in the layout so that heat transfers well from the other side of the board? Something like adding a small via on each pin or that kind of thing. I think I may have to make a board with a BGA part on it in the next couple of weeks, so I'm wondering if I should do anything special (so I can avoid the $150/board assembly costs for prototypes). Thanks - Steve No, but it does take some practice with a hot air gun so you dont burn the card, A hot plate (alu plate with heater and thermostat) works as well When doing this I preheat the whole card to ~150C then focus the heat on the reverse side of the BGA. Ive done down to .8 mm BGAs and up to 484 pins but not smaller pitch or more pins. I would not do this for anything other than a proto with low cost BGAs (You may need to practice a few times before getting it right) I make my corral with scrap PCB material tack soldered to the main PCB a a distance from the FPGA -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
Yanjun Luo wrote: It seems that you guys are very professional about it! I never try to manual solder it, I always let factory to solder it for me. I'll try to use BGA rework station later. Well, there are those of us who are basket-case tool nuts. For instance, I have a pick and place machine in my basement. Not one of those toy tabletop machines, either, but a 1600 Lb. 5 x 7 foot machine that does a very conservative 3600 components/hour and holds 60+ feeders. Jon -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board
在 2010-03-10三的 23:53 -0600，Jon Elson写道： Torsten Koschorrek, the ARM maintainer for RTAI has informed me he has an RTAI patch ready for the Beagle Board. He is working on a 2.6.29 kernel, but hasn't uploaded the latest docs for it yet. That should happen in a couple days, he says. So, if anyone wants to try out this patch kit, there is a SourceForge project at http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtai-cortex/ I have an adaptor board that plugs onto the Beagle that does a software emulation of an EPP parallel port. For just bidirectional PP use, there are two extra bits that enable the external bidir driver/level translators and set the direction of the data port. I have to draw up some documentation on how to control all this from a C program. I have figured out how to set up the GPIO pins on the OMAP from C, and should document that, too. One interesting thing that I discovered about the OMAP is that the GPIO logic is apparently multiplexed, and the pins are updated every 250 ns (on the older 500 MHz Beagle, I suspect the newer ones may be faster.) This is not much of a concern for software step pulse generation, but is a limit for talking to an FPGA over the parallel port. Jon Hi Jon, It's really a good news! I'll try it. I create an open source OMAP3530 board project too, and the core board is working now. I'll design a carrier board running this patch and EMC and use it for my carving machine. Here is my project web site, http://code.google.com/p/openomap/ Regards, Yanjun Luo. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
