Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
2012/1/5 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 4 January 2012 23:48, Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu wrote: do you have any pictures of it set up? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CQTCSBXP42w4qc8viPm_ztMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink (In that picture is the D510MO motherboard, PicoPSU, DOM SATA drive, 12V CPU, Arduino, resolver board, Mesa 5i23, Mesa 7i64 and Mesa 7i44, mainly mounted on the back of the touchscreen. Wow, beautiful How is 5i23 mounted? I do not see that it is fixed anywhere. I think that there is a HAL module that links in to lmsensors to allow you to view such things inside EMC2. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ContributedComponents#Motherboard_Sensors Is there a place with more information, how to install components, written in python? This line is not sufficient for me: chmod 755 component.py sudo cp component.py /usr/local/bin/component 2012/1/5 Frank Tkalcevic fr...@franksworkshop.com.au: I've used this on my lathe and just updated my mill from mach to emc2+5i20... http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard http://www.mini-box.com/M350-universal-mini-itx-enclosure http://www.mini-box.com/I-O-shield-and-riser-card-for-D945GSEJT along with the DIN rail mounts to put the box in my enclosure. It is a bit of a squeeze, but worked well. These look nice, thanks for sharing, because I was thinking about building a mini-itx PC and these might become useful. Viesturs -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 6 January 2012 10:27, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: How is 5i23 mounted? I do not see that it is fixed anywhere. In that picture it is just sat there in the PCI connectors. Since then I have added a bracket from the mounting holes onto the aluminium mounting plate. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 5 January 2012 01:59, Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com wrote: Did the flexible riser work for you before it started losing wires? How is it that it started losing wires? Do you mean conductors were breaking internally in the cable? breaking at the connector? . It was fine, though meant that the board needed a moderately complicated bracket. The problem started when I was reconfiguring between 5i25 and 5i23 a few times a week when doing driver work. The wires are mulitistrand soldered to small PCBs with no strain relief. Once one went, others kept following (I resoldered 15 or so, but more broke than got fixed every time) -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
I've used this on my lathe and just updated my mill from mach to emc2+5i20... http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard http://www.mini-box.com/M350-universal-mini-itx-enclosure http://www.mini-box.com/I-O-shield-and-riser-card-for-D945GSEJT along with the DIN rail mounts to put the box in my enclosure. It is a bit of a squeeze, but worked well. The board is more expensive than the D510/525 but it has its own on board voltage regulators - you just supply 12 volts. -Original Message- From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2012 9:19 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX I finally found a PCI riser that works with the mini-ITX Intel boards (D510 and D525) It puts the Mesa card over the motherboard, with the connectors facing up. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCIx1-2U-32Bit-Riser-PCITX4-2-Rev-B- /110793930515 The previous 2 I tried stopped the machine booting, and the flexi-one started losing wires. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 01/04/2012 07:09 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 4 January 2012 23:48, Eric Kellereekel...@psu.edu wrote: do you have any pictures of it set up? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CQTCSBXP42w4qc8viPm_ztMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink (In that picture is the D510MO motherboard, PicoPSU, DOM SATA drive, 12V CPU, Arduino, resolver board, Mesa 5i23, Mesa 7i64 and Mesa 7i44, mainly mounted on the back of the touchscreen. Andy, How do you deal with the enclosure, getting the peripheral card ports so that they poke through to the exterior? Mark -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 5 January 2012 10:39, Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: How do you deal with the enclosure, getting the peripheral card ports so that they poke through to the exterior? Mainly by putting everything in one big box. I think it makes sense to treat the PC board as just another component, rather than as a computer, to put in a computer case. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 01/05/2012 06:01 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 10:39, Mark Wendtmark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: How do you deal with the enclosure, getting the peripheral card ports so that they poke through to the exterior? Mainly by putting everything in one big box. I think it makes sense to treat the PC board as just another component, rather than as a computer, to put in a computer case. Gotcha. Thanks for the info! Mark -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com To: mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX On 5 January 2012 10:39, Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: How do you deal with the enclosure, getting the peripheral card ports so that they poke through to the exterior? Mainly by putting everything in one big box. I think it makes sense to treat the PC board as just another component, rather than as a computer, to put in a computer case. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 1/5/2012 8:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. If the surrounding environment is not too hostile, the easiest way is to blow air through the box - like a PC. The MW525 does not require a fan so if you create a breeze across the heat sink it should be cooled sufficiently in even a hot environment. If everything is in a sealed box the only alternative is to blow air across the components inside the box and make sure the box is large enough to become warm yet dissipate the heat into the cooler surrounding air. A MW525 system throws off about 20 watts of heat. I recently bought some of these to help keep dust and dirt out of a PC enclosure in dirty environment. Along with a good 120 mm fan, something like this would be useful in some industrial environments to ventilate a cabinet with filtered air. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5554585SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDERcm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. Dave -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 5 January 2012 16:07, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. I think that there is a HAL module that links in to lmsensors to allow you to view such things inside EMC2. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ContributedComponents#Motherboard_Sensors -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 1/5/2012 11:07 AM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 8:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. If the surrounding environment is not too hostile, the easiest way is to blow air through the box - like a PC. The MW525 does not require a fan so if you create a breeze across the heat sink it should be cooled sufficiently in even a hot environment. If everything is in a sealed box the only alternative is to blow air across the components inside the box and make sure the box is large enough to become warm yet dissipate the heat into the cooler surrounding air. A MW525 system throws off about 20 watts of heat. I recently bought some of these to help keep dust and dirt out of a PC enclosure in dirty environment. Along with a good 120 mm fan, something like this would be useful in some industrial environments to ventilate a cabinet with filtered air. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5554585SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDERcm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. Dave Gentle persons: Watercooling is the cats meow in high-end gaming systems. My local Microcenter has a whole aisle devoted to aftermarket add-ons like pumps, heat exchangers, tubing in disco colors, etc., (with or without the attendant lowrider lighting!). Apart from our natural conservatism, is there any reason y'all with big systems aren't watercooling within a sealed box, piping the heat to an external radiator? Regards, Kent -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 1/5/2012 11:29 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/5/2012 11:07 AM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 8:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.comwrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. If the surrounding environment is not too hostile, the easiest way is to blow air through the box - like a PC. The MW525 does not require a fan so if you create a breeze across the heat sink it should be cooled sufficiently in even a hot environment. If everything is in a sealed box the only alternative is to blow air across the components inside the box and make sure the box is large enough to become warm yet dissipate the heat into the cooler surrounding air. A MW525 system throws off about 20 watts of heat. I recently bought some of these to help keep dust and dirt out of a PC enclosure in dirty environment. Along with a good 120 mm fan, something like this would be useful in some industrial environments to ventilate a cabinet with filtered air. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5554585SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDERcm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. Dave Gentle persons: Watercooling is the cats meow in high-end gaming systems. My local Microcenter has a whole aisle devoted to aftermarket add-ons like pumps, heat exchangers, tubing in disco colors, etc., (with or without the attendant lowrider lighting!). Apart from our natural conservatism, is there any reason y'all with big systems aren't watercooling within a sealed box, piping the heat to an external radiator? Regards, Kent It really isn't just a CPU cooling issue. Usually the entire enclosure needs to be cooled. The cheap industrial way to cool a cabinet is to use a Exair type vortex compressed air powered cooler. They are relatively cheap, and bulletproof, but they eat a lot of compressed air. But if you have a lot of compressed air available, then that can be a good solution. In general, I like to keep water away from electronics and high voltages... :-) Although... the low rider lighting is attractive.. ;-) I have worked on a few high power induction heating units that use water to cool just about everything, including the power conductors. I find them a bit scary. 480 volts, SCRs the size of hockey pucks, mixed with hoses and water all in the same cabinet! I close the cabinet and stand around the corner when I throw the disconnect switch on after a repair. Dave -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 1/5/2012 11:16 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 16:07, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. I think that there is a HAL module that links in to lmsensors to allow you to view such things inside EMC2. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ContributedComponents#Motherboard_Sensors I did not know that.. Thanks for pointing that out! I think I need to include that on my next build. :-) Dave -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
Kent A. Reed wrote: Apart from our natural conservatism, is there any reason y'all with big systems aren't watercooling within a sealed box, piping the heat to an external radiator? Well, it is expensive, and for most systems it is now somewhat old-school and unnecessary! The Atom systems as VASTLY lower power than earlier brute-force CPUs, and can run fine in a small sealed box with no active cooling at all. Their performance is quite good, too! Jon -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:27:01 PM Dave did opine: On 1/5/2012 8:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. If the surrounding environment is not too hostile, the easiest way is to blow air through the box - like a PC. The MW525 does not require a fan so if you create a breeze across the heat sink it should be cooled sufficiently in even a hot environment. If everything is in a sealed box the only alternative is to blow air across the components inside the box and make sure the box is large enough to become warm yet dissipate the heat into the cooler surrounding air. A MW525 system throws off about 20 watts of heat. I recently bought some of these to help keep dust and dirt out of a PC enclosure in dirty environment. Along with a good 120 mm fan, something like this would be useful in some industrial environments to ventilate a cabinet with filtered air. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?Edp No=5554585SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDERcm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORD ER-_-Deals The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. Dave So can a teeny little screen corner utility called gkrellm, in real time while emc is running. Rebooting to get into the bios to see hot hot things are isn't of much utility IMO. With everything I have in this box, I have it set to display in a strip about 3.4 wide and 9 high, parked against the right edge of this wide screen monitor. The heat sink needs cleaned so my phenom is currently running at 60C. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene Shall we make a new rule of life from tonight: always to try to be a little kinder than is necessary? -- J.M. Barrie -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
Just an FYI, I have an Intel MD525MW motherboard, 4gig ram, and disk. The smallest case my supplier could get had a small fan on the power supply, and a fan for case cooling so I guess I could say that my motherboard is fan-cooled, but that's just life. Had to turn off hyper threading on the motherboard; otherwise, I think that's it. My G540 and 48v power supply is in a different case; this one came from an old-school 6gig disk drive; the fan was replaced with a 48v fan. This box sits on my mill stand, and is painted to match. Makes for a nice, clean installation. JohnS Canada. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On Thursday, January 05, 2012 01:45:41 PM gene heskett did opine: On Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:27:01 PM Dave did opine: On 1/5/2012 8:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. If the surrounding environment is not too hostile, the easiest way is to blow air through the box - like a PC. The MW525 does not require a fan so if you create a breeze across the heat sink it should be cooled sufficiently in even a hot environment. If everything is in a sealed box the only alternative is to blow air across the components inside the box and make sure the box is large enough to become warm yet dissipate the heat into the cooler surrounding air. A MW525 system throws off about 20 watts of heat. I recently bought some of these to help keep dust and dirt out of a PC enclosure in dirty environment. Along with a good 120 mm fan, something like this would be useful in some industrial environments to ventilate a cabinet with filtered air. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?E dp No=5554585SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDERcm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03 ORD ER-_-Deals The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. Dave So can a teeny little screen corner utility called gkrellm, in real time while emc is running. Rebooting to get into the bios to see hot hot things are isn't of much utility IMO. With everything I have in this box, I have it set to display in a strip about 3.4 wide and 9 high, Gah, dammit, s/b 3/4 not 3.4. Ancient fingers do always type what I tell them to. parked against the right edge of this wide screen monitor. The heat sink needs cleaned so my phenom is currently running at 60C. Cheers, Gene Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene For fast-acting relief, try slowing down. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 1/5/2012 12:14 PM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 11:29 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/5/2012 11:07 AM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 8:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. If the surrounding environment is not too hostile, the easiest way is to blow air through the box - like a PC. The MW525 does not require a fan so if you create a breeze across the heat sink it should be cooled sufficiently in even a hot environment. If everything is in a sealed box the only alternative is to blow air across the components inside the box and make sure the box is large enough to become warm yet dissipate the heat into the cooler surrounding air. A MW525 system throws off about 20 watts of heat. I recently bought some of these to help keep dust and dirt out of a PC enclosure in dirty environment. Along with a good 120 mm fan, something like this would be useful in some industrial environments to ventilate a cabinet with filtered air. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5554585SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDERcm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. Dave Gentle persons: Watercooling is the cats meow in high-end gaming systems. My local Microcenter has a whole aisle devoted to aftermarket add-ons like pumps, heat exchangers, tubing in disco colors, etc., (with or without the attendant lowrider lighting!). Apart from our natural conservatism, is there any reason y'all with big systems aren't watercooling within a sealed box, piping the heat to an external radiator? Regards, Kent It really isn't just a CPU cooling issue. Usually the entire enclosure needs to be cooled. The cheap industrial way to cool a cabinet is to use a Exair type vortex compressed air powered cooler. They are relatively cheap, and bulletproof, but they eat a lot of compressed air. But if you have a lot of compressed air available, then that can be a good solution. I wasn't thinking just in terms of CPU cooling, Dave. With the parts available, one can rig up almost anything, which has always been a theme of this forum. Sure the shrink-wrapped retail components are expensive, but that's because it's being sold to folks with more money than sense (I've seen guys drop $5K on a custom gaming system). It can be done more cheaply. The point for me was, you folks were talking about problems cooling a box in a dirty environment. To me that says use heat exchangers. If you don't like liquid-to-air heat exchange, use air-to-air heat exchange. From the days I started building experimental lab equipment, my personal choice always has been to try not to generate more heat than I can conduct away to ambient. These days the drive toward ubiquitous mobile devices is solving the problem on the computer side but it's still an issue on the motor-drive side. Regards, Kent -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On Thursday, January 05, 2012 04:08:54 PM Kent A. Reed did opine: On 1/5/2012 12:14 PM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 11:29 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/5/2012 11:07 AM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 8:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. If the surrounding environment is not too hostile, the easiest way is to blow air through the box - like a PC. The MW525 does not require a fan so if you create a breeze across the heat sink it should be cooled sufficiently in even a hot environment. If everything is in a sealed box the only alternative is to blow air across the components inside the box and make sure the box is large enough to become warm yet dissipate the heat into the cooler surrounding air. A MW525 system throws off about 20 watts of heat. I recently bought some of these to help keep dust and dirt out of a PC enclosure in dirty environment. Along with a good 120 mm fan, something like this would be useful in some industrial environments to ventilate a cabinet with filtered air. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp ?EdpNo=5554585SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDERcm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEB LET03ORDER-_-Deals The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. Dave Gentle persons: Watercooling is the cats meow in high-end gaming systems. My local Microcenter has a whole aisle devoted to aftermarket add-ons like pumps, heat exchangers, tubing in disco colors, etc., (with or without the attendant lowrider lighting!). Apart from our natural conservatism, is there any reason y'all with big systems aren't watercooling within a sealed box, piping the heat to an external radiator? Regards, Kent It really isn't just a CPU cooling issue. Usually the entire enclosure needs to be cooled. The cheap industrial way to cool a cabinet is to use a Exair type vortex compressed air powered cooler. They are relatively cheap, and bulletproof, but they eat a lot of compressed air. But if you have a lot of compressed air available, then that can be a good solution. I wasn't thinking just in terms of CPU cooling, Dave. With the parts available, one can rig up almost anything, which has always been a theme of this forum. Sure the shrink-wrapped retail components are expensive, but that's because it's being sold to folks with more money than sense (I've seen guys drop $5K on a custom gaming system). It can be done more cheaply. The point for me was, you folks were talking about problems cooling a box in a dirty environment. To me that says use heat exchangers. If you don't like liquid-to-air heat exchange, use air-to-air heat exchange. From the days I started building experimental lab equipment, my personal choice always has been to try not to generate more heat than I can conduct away to ambient. These days the drive toward ubiquitous mobile devices is solving the problem on the computer side but it's still an issue on the motor-drive side. Regards, Kent And likely to remain so unless somebody comes up with a whole new technology whose switching losses are 10% of what we have today. In my case, 28 volt supply, times 2.37 amps=66 watts circulating between the driver and motor. I'd estimate the motor is converting 40 watts of that to heat from i2r losses while the driver is using 20 in switching time losses with the other 6 watts being wasted in the semiconductors on resistances, commonly down in the milliohm range these days. There probably is not a heck of a lot we can do about the motors eddy current and i2r losses and that is today, the almost veto proof majority. Even better iron could help, but could we then afford the motor? Good question IMO. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene New York now leads the world's great cities in the number of people around whom you shouldn't make a sudden move. -- David Letterman -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 1/5/2012 2:18 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/5/2012 12:14 PM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 11:29 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/5/2012 11:07 AM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 8:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. If the surrounding environment is not too hostile, the easiest way is to blow air through the box - like a PC. The MW525 does not require a fan so if you create a breeze across the heat sink it should be cooled sufficiently in even a hot environment. If everything is in a sealed box the only alternative is to blow air across the components inside the box and make sure the box is large enough to become warm yet dissipate the heat into the cooler surrounding air. A MW525 system throws off about 20 watts of heat. I recently bought some of these to help keep dust and dirt out of a PC enclosure in dirty environment. Along with a good 120 mm fan, something like this would be useful in some industrial environments to ventilate a cabinet with filtered air. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5554585SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDERcm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. Dave Gentle persons: Watercooling is the cats meow in high-end gaming systems. My local Microcenter has a whole aisle devoted to aftermarket add-ons like pumps, heat exchangers, tubing in disco colors, etc., (with or without the attendant lowrider lighting!). Apart from our natural conservatism, is there any reason y'all with big systems aren't watercooling within a sealed box, piping the heat to an external radiator? Regards, Kent It really isn't just a CPU cooling issue. Usually the entire enclosure needs to be cooled. The cheap industrial way to cool a cabinet is to use a Exair type vortex compressed air powered cooler. They are relatively cheap, and bulletproof, but they eat a lot of compressed air. But if you have a lot of compressed air available, then that can be a good solution. I wasn't thinking just in terms of CPU cooling, Dave. With the parts available, one can rig up almost anything, which has always been a theme of this forum. Sure the shrink-wrapped retail components are expensive, but that's because it's being sold to folks with more money than sense (I've seen guys drop $5K on a custom gaming system). It can be done more cheaply. The point for me was, you folks were talking about problems cooling a box in a dirty environment. To me that says use heat exchangers. If you don't like liquid-to-air heat exchange, use air-to-air heat exchange. From the days I started building experimental lab equipment, my personal choice always has been to try not to generate more heat than I can conduct away to ambient. These days the drive toward ubiquitous mobile devices is solving the problem on the computer side but it's still an issue on the motor-drive side. Regards, Kent True enough. Apparently you have been to the watercooling aisle in Microcenter. ;-) It is pretty amazing what you can buy and for how much. Air to air heat exchanger work ok if things are not too hot on the outside of the panel. Air conditioners, like Hoffman units, are good for tough environments but they are expensive. Like you said these low power computers really have helped a lot. If someone comes up with a simple temperature control solution for a control panel, both heating and cooling, let me know. I sure haven't found it yet. Dave -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
andy had the damndest thing with a flexy dual riser http://www.logicsupply.com/products/pci122_dflex my d150m0 ran a dual pci parport fine for months and it same card recognized in the new flexi riser along with a pci 8255 ( sudo lshw ) but emc swore the parport was 'already in use' i strippedit back down and no problems with dual parport in mobo pci slot weird, no time to debug right now, gotta cut wasted too much time making mounts for the riser and 2 cards sideways off mini box regards TomP -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On Thursday, January 05, 2012 07:07:03 PM Dave did opine: On 1/5/2012 2:18 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/5/2012 12:14 PM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 11:29 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 1/5/2012 11:07 AM, Dave wrote: On 1/5/2012 8:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 January 2012 13:41, Edward Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you deal with cooling issues having all that gear in one enclosure? I don't know yet. The actual servo drives will be external (and near the motors) though, so the only heat in there should be from the low-power motherboard. If the surrounding environment is not too hostile, the easiest way is to blow air through the box - like a PC. The MW525 does not require a fan so if you create a breeze across the heat sink it should be cooled sufficiently in even a hot environment. If everything is in a sealed box the only alternative is to blow air across the components inside the box and make sure the box is large enough to become warm yet dissipate the heat into the cooler surrounding air. A MW525 system throws off about 20 watts of heat. I recently bought some of these to help keep dust and dirt out of a PC enclosure in dirty environment. Along with a good 120 mm fan, something like this would be useful in some industrial environments to ventilate a cabinet with filtered air. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.as p?EdpNo=5554585SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDERcm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-W EBLET03ORDER-_-Deals The Intel bios has a display that will show you the CPU core temperature so you can get an idea of how efficiently your enclosure is keeping your PC boards cool. Dave Gentle persons: Watercooling is the cats meow in high-end gaming systems. My local Microcenter has a whole aisle devoted to aftermarket add-ons like pumps, heat exchangers, tubing in disco colors, etc., (with or without the attendant lowrider lighting!). Apart from our natural conservatism, is there any reason y'all with big systems aren't watercooling within a sealed box, piping the heat to an external radiator? Regards, Kent It really isn't just a CPU cooling issue. Usually the entire enclosure needs to be cooled. The cheap industrial way to cool a cabinet is to use a Exair type vortex compressed air powered cooler. They are relatively cheap, and bulletproof, but they eat a lot of compressed air. But if you have a lot of compressed air available, then that can be a good solution. I wasn't thinking just in terms of CPU cooling, Dave. With the parts available, one can rig up almost anything, which has always been a theme of this forum. Sure the shrink-wrapped retail components are expensive, but that's because it's being sold to folks with more money than sense (I've seen guys drop $5K on a custom gaming system). It can be done more cheaply. The point for me was, you folks were talking about problems cooling a box in a dirty environment. To me that says use heat exchangers. If you don't like liquid-to-air heat exchange, use air-to-air heat exchange. From the days I started building experimental lab equipment, my personal choice always has been to try not to generate more heat than I can conduct away to ambient. These days the drive toward ubiquitous mobile devices is solving the problem on the computer side but it's still an issue on the motor-drive side. Regards, Kent True enough. Apparently you have been to the watercooling aisle in Microcenter. ;-) It is pretty amazing what you can buy and for how much. Air to air heat exchanger work ok if things are not too hot on the outside of the panel. Air conditioners, like Hoffman units, are good for tough environments but they are expensive. Like you said these low power computers really have helped a lot. If someone comes up with a simple temperature control solution for a control panel, both heating and cooling, let me know. I sure haven't found it yet. Dave Dave, if it needs heating, its time for a long coffee break, say to about the middle of April? Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene 0 7 * * * echo ...Linux is just a fad | mail bi...@microsoft.com - s= And remember... -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
do you have any pictures of it set up? On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: I finally found a PCI riser that works with the mini-ITX Intel boards (D510 and D525) It puts the Mesa card over the motherboard, with the connectors facing up. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCIx1-2U-32Bit-Riser-PCITX4-2-Rev-B-/110793930515 The previous 2 I tried stopped the machine booting, and the flexi-one started losing wires. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 4 January 2012 23:48, Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu wrote: do you have any pictures of it set up? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CQTCSBXP42w4qc8viPm_ztMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink (In that picture is the D510MO motherboard, PicoPSU, DOM SATA drive, 12V CPU, Arduino, resolver board, Mesa 5i23, Mesa 7i64 and Mesa 7i44, mainly mounted on the back of the touchscreen. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On Wednesday, January 04, 2012 08:41:42 PM andy pugh did opine: On 4 January 2012 23:48, Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu wrote: do you have any pictures of it set up? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CQTCSBXP42w4qc8viPm_ztMTjNZETYmyPJ y0liipFm0?feat=directlink (In that picture is the D510MO motherboard, PicoPSU, DOM SATA drive, 12V CPU, Arduino, resolver board, Mesa 5i23, Mesa 7i64 and Mesa 7i44, mainly mounted on the back of the touchscreen. Kewl Andy. Looks like that gets rid of a rats nest of cabling too! Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene If you hype something and it succeeds, you're a genius -- it wasn't a hype. If you hype it and it fails, then it was just a hype. -- Neil Bogart -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On 1/4/2012 5:19 PM, andy pugh wrote: I finally found a PCI riser that works with the mini-ITX Intel boards (D510 and D525) It puts the Mesa card over the motherboard, with the connectors facing up. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCIx1-2U-32Bit-Riser-PCITX4-2-Rev-B-/110793930515 The previous 2 I tried stopped the machine booting, and the flexi-one started losing wires. Andy: Did the flexible riser work for you before it started losing wires? How is it that it started losing wires? Do you mean conductors were breaking internally in the cable? breaking at the connector? ... I presume the breakage was due to repeated flexing. Were you assembling and disassembling frequently? Inquiring minds want to know, since the flexible riser seems to be commonly available here in the USA, and since it would allow more flexibility (no pun intended) configuring the boards. Regards, Kent -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 10:19:25PM +, andy pugh wrote: I finally found a PCI riser that works with the mini-ITX Intel boards (D510 and D525) It puts the Mesa card over the motherboard, with the connectors facing up. With the Mesa board handling the low-level code is it possible to run the servo thread with onboard video? -- Ben Jackson AD7GD b...@ben.com http://www.ben.com/ -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Ben Jackson wrote: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:11:58 -0800 From: Ben Jackson b...@ben.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 10:19:25PM +, andy pugh wrote: I finally found a PCI riser that works with the mini-ITX Intel boards (D510 and D525) It puts the Mesa card over the motherboard, with the connectors facing up. With the Mesa board handling the low-level code is it possible to run the servo thread with onboard video? -- Ben Jackson AD7GD b...@ben.com http://www.ben.com/ The D945, D510, and D525 motherboard video is OK even with software step generation -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
