Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-27 Thread Hiroaki Yoshida
Hi David,
 
I think I can help you by either doing a proofreading, or 
even sharing the translation task.  I'm a Japanese native and
have been using e for more than 5 years.  Please let me know
if you need any help.

Thanks,

Hiroaki


On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, David Stevenson wrote:

> Hi Valtteri,
> 
> Unless there are any Japanese natives interested, I'm pretty
> interested in driving more Japanese interest at E17, so I'll try to
> get a Japanese version together as well. I won't rest until E17 is
> featured in Nikkei Linux magazine (^_^)
> 
> While I'm not a Japanese native speaker, I am fluent (I passed Level 1
> in the Japanese Language Proficiency Test 4 years back). The
> translation may not be perfect, but will surely be better than nothing
> ;-))
> 
> David @ Tokyo

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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-24 Thread gimpel
ps!
well, erss is still there but it's misc/erss, and has ever been i
think... fixed :)
thx for the hint!



On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:31:11 -0800
"C. David Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey All,
> 
> I just noticed that erss is no longer in the e17/apps directory.  In 
> chapter 2 section a of the guide you should remove the line 
> e17/apps/erss (RSS feed application).  I'm not sure when erss 
> dissappeared or when/if it's coming back.   Also the FAQ section d 
> contains information on eRSS (is this the same as erss or is this the 
> one in misc?)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave W.
> 
> Valtteri Vainikka wrote:
> 
> >Hey all,
> >
> >I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users guide me
> >and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete now :) Please
> >see http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version, including the
> >layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have the "Unofficial" tag
> >of course. We've gone through the text with help from alot of people
> >quite many times already so it should be (fairly) error and typo free
> >now. If you have some spare time, please give it a scan if you see
> >anything that should be changed. As alread said in the previous mail,
> >the point of the guide is to provide user-level documentation for
> >E17, which would help the the early adopters, testers and perhaps
> >developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work in progress
> >guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in sync" with
> >everything in CVS.
> >
> >In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also need
> >to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified) and
> >perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
> >system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
> >nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >Valtteri
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-24 Thread C. David Wilde
Hey All,
I just noticed that erss is no longer in the e17/apps directory.  In 
chapter 2 section a of the guide you should remove the line 
e17/apps/erss (RSS feed application).  I'm not sure when erss 
dissappeared or when/if it's coming back.   Also the FAQ section d 
contains information on eRSS (is this the same as erss or is this the 
one in misc?)

Thanks,
Dave W.
Valtteri Vainikka wrote:
Hey all,
I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users guide me
and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete now :) Please see
http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version, including the
layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have the "Unofficial" tag
of course. We've gone through the text with help from alot of people
quite many times already so it should be (fairly) error and typo free
now. If you have some spare time, please give it a scan if you see
anything that should be changed. As alread said in the previous mail,
the point of the guide is to provide user-level documentation for E17,
which would help the the early adopters, testers and perhaps
developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work in progress
guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in sync" with
everything in CVS.
In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also need
to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified) and
perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.
regards,
Valtteri
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-24 Thread David Stevenson
Hiroaki, 
(B
(BThanks for the support! I will make a start on this in the weekend,
(Band then let you know how it's going :-) I'm sure I will require some
(Bhelp.
(B
$B59$7$/$*4j$$$7$^$9!#(B
(B
(BDavid
(B
(BOn Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:31:55 +0900, Hiroaki Yoshida
(B<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(B> Hi David,
(B> 
(B> I think I can help you by either doing a proofreading, or
(B> even sharing the translation task.  I'm a Japanese native and
(B> have been using e for more than 5 years.  Please let me know
(B> if you need any help.
(B> 
(B> Thanks,
(B> 
(B> Hiroaki
(B> 
(B> 
(B> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, David Stevenson wrote:
(B> 
(B> > Hi Valtteri,
(B> >
(B> > Unless there are any Japanese natives interested, I'm pretty
(B> > interested in driving more Japanese interest at E17, so I'll try to
(B> > get a Japanese version together as well. I won't rest until E17 is
(B> > featured in Nikkei Linux magazine (^_^)
(B> >
(B> > While I'm not a Japanese native speaker, I am fluent (I passed Level 1
(B> > in the Japanese Language Proficiency Test 4 years back). The
(B> > translation may not be perfect, but will surely be better than nothing
(B> > ;-))
(B> >
(B> > David @ Tokyo
(B> 
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-24 Thread Valtteri Vainikka
Hey David,

Sounds great :) I'm sure it's fine - I'm not a native english speaker either.

cheers,

Valtteri

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:00:32 +0900, David Stevenson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Valtteri,
> 
> Unless there are any Japanese natives interested, I'm pretty
> interested in driving more Japanese interest at E17, so I'll try to
> get a Japanese version together as well. I won't rest until E17 is
> featured in Nikkei Linux magazine (^_^)
> 
> While I'm not a Japanese native speaker, I am fluent (I passed Level 1
> in the Japanese Language Proficiency Test 4 years back). The
> translation may not be perfect, but will surely be better than nothing
> ;-))
> 
> David @ Tokyo
> 
> 
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:14:59 +, Valtteri Vainikka
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for all the feedback :) Btw for those who are talking about
> > translating it, could you update your snapshot of the edocs site
> > before you start? It's been updated (again - after it was already
> > updated once today) - all the things raster mentioned should be fixed
> > now and it's future proof (tm) as we switched all .eet references and
> > so on to .edj even if the application hasn't actually changed to it
> > yet. All translations would obviously need to be maintained by the
> > same person too, at least if the current development speed continues
> > it means a few changes almost every day. And last but definately not
> > least - it's awesome that so many people are interested in translating
> > it, thanks to everyone involved. If you (the translators) use irc,
> > feel free to join #edocumentation on freenode IRC. It would help
> > coordinate this stuff alot.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Valtteri
> >
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:00:32 +0900 David Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Bbabbled:
(B
(B> Hi Valtteri,
(B> 
(B> Unless there are any Japanese natives interested, I'm pretty
(B> interested in driving more Japanese interest at E17, so I'll try to
(B> get a Japanese version together as well. I won't rest until E17 is
(B> featured in Nikkei Linux magazine (^_^)
(B> 
(B> While I'm not a Japanese native speaker, I am fluent (I passed Level 1
(B> in the Japanese Language Proficiency Test 4 years back). The
(B> translation may not be perfect, but will surely be better than nothing
(B> ;-))
(B
$B$9$4!*(B
$B$,$s$P$C$F$M!*(B
(B
(BBTW - japanese should display fine in titlebars, etc. now when you read japanese
(Bweb pages or use japanese apps. i need to put into place a good translation
(Bwrapper layer too (likely gettext) at some stage - but now the font display code
(Bis in place with fontset support.
(B
(B> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:14:59 +, Valtteri Vainikka
(B> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(B> > Thanks for all the feedback :) Btw for those who are talking about
(B> > translating it, could you update your snapshot of the edocs site
(B> > before you start? It's been updated (again - after it was already
(B> > updated once today) - all the things raster mentioned should be fixed
(B> > now and it's future proof (tm) as we switched all .eet references and
(B> > so on to .edj even if the application hasn't actually changed to it
(B> > yet. All translations would obviously need to be maintained by the
(B> > same person too, at least if the current development speed continues
(B> > it means a few changes almost every day. And last but definately not
(B> > least - it's awesome that so many people are interested in translating
(B> > it, thanks to everyone involved. If you (the translators) use irc,
(B> > feel free to join #edocumentation on freenode IRC. It would help
(B> > coordinate this stuff alot.
(B> > 
(B> > cheers,
(B> > 
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread David Stevenson
Hi Valtteri,

Unless there are any Japanese natives interested, I'm pretty
interested in driving more Japanese interest at E17, so I'll try to
get a Japanese version together as well. I won't rest until E17 is
featured in Nikkei Linux magazine (^_^)

While I'm not a Japanese native speaker, I am fluent (I passed Level 1
in the Japanese Language Proficiency Test 4 years back). The
translation may not be perfect, but will surely be better than nothing
;-))

David @ Tokyo


On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:14:59 +, Valtteri Vainikka
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for all the feedback :) Btw for those who are talking about
> translating it, could you update your snapshot of the edocs site
> before you start? It's been updated (again - after it was already
> updated once today) - all the things raster mentioned should be fixed
> now and it's future proof (tm) as we switched all .eet references and
> so on to .edj even if the application hasn't actually changed to it
> yet. All translations would obviously need to be maintained by the
> same person too, at least if the current development speed continues
> it means a few changes almost every day. And last but definately not
> least - it's awesome that so many people are interested in translating
> it, thanks to everyone involved. If you (the translators) use irc,
> feel free to join #edocumentation on freenode IRC. It would help
> coordinate this stuff alot.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Valtteri
> 
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread Valtteri Vainikka
Thanks for all the feedback :) Btw for those who are talking about
translating it, could you update your snapshot of the edocs site
before you start? It's been updated (again - after it was already
updated once today) - all the things raster mentioned should be fixed
now and it's future proof (tm) as we switched all .eet references and
so on to .edj even if the application hasn't actually changed to it
yet. All translations would obviously need to be maintained by the
same person too, at least if the current development speed continues
it means a few changes almost every day. And last but definately not
least - it's awesome that so many people are interested in translating
it, thanks to everyone involved. If you (the translators) use irc,
feel free to join #edocumentation on freenode IRC. It would help
coordinate this stuff alot.

cheers,

Valtteri


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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread Piotr Skamruk
* Piotr Skamruk, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) napisał:
> if there is no other willing i'll do polish translation of this
> document... of cours, if i'll find some bugs (like sended in upper
> posts) i'll notify author.
> 
>   greatings
>   jell
of course when i writed polish i had in mind natural language in Poland
and ! a polished version of this documentation :)


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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread gimpel
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:41:14 +0100
Julien Derveeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thijs Thiessens wrote:
> 
> > About translations.. Shall I do one in Dutch?
> >
> >
> > Thijs Thiessens
> > (The Netherlands)
> >
> > gimpel wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:40:35 +0900
> >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:28:56 + Valtteri Vainikka
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> >>>
> >>>
>  Hey all,
> 
>  I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users
>  guide me and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete
>  now :) Please see http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version,
>  including the layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have
>  the "Unofficial" tag of course. We've gone through the text with
>  help from alot of people quite many times already so it should
>  be (fairly) error and typo free now. If you have some spare
>  time, please give it a scan if you see anything that should be
>  changed. As alread said in the previous mail, the point of the
>  guide is to provide user-level documentation for E17, which
>  would help the the early adopters, testers and perhaps
>  developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work in
>  progress guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in
>  sync" with everything in CVS.
> 
>  In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also
>  need to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified)
>  and perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the
>  CMS system is up and running that is. You can also find us on
>  IRC, our nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ok (i have finally gotten to reading this - damn all this e-mail.
> >>> i spend more than 50% of the time i could be coding doing
> >>> email)!!!
> >>>
> >>> anwyay. comments:
> >>>
> >>> "By default only one window is used - you can add more virtual
> >>> desktops from the menu. Keybindings aren't"
> >>>
> >>> by default its now 4x1 virtual desktops (not window :) ) :)
> >>>
> >>> you should note that middle mouse button may change too for the
> >>> desktop - this is a temporary hack :)
> >>> also now they are .EDJ not .EET files :) (to be less ambiguous) :)
> >>>
> >>> btw: themes can also be put in ~/.e/e/themes/ and if you put a
> >>> personal default.eet there it will be used instead of the system
> >>> one... but u'd have to overwrite this file to change themes. this
> >>> is also a minefield for problems - if we add features and that
> >>> means adding things to the theme and edje - things may not work
> >>> if you have a personal theme and are not FASTIDIOUS in keeping it
> >>> in sync with changes to the default theme :)
> >>>
> >>> under "what are these different binary formats" you might want to
> >>> point out that ALL of them are actually eet archive files
> >>> underneath - each just containing specialised data for each
> >>> purpose. .eapp files are just edje files with extra data appended
> >>> to the eet archive for app info :)
> >>>
> >>> under "I've seen some nice flame and snow effects in various E17
> >>> videos/screenshots. I can't seem to find them?" it's snow and
> >>> flame modules, not snow and temperature :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all!
> >> first post on devel list from my side. so first many thanks for
> >> enlightening my days with these awesome stuff. couldn't imagine to
> >> use any other wm.
> >>
> >> raster, thanks for scanning the guide! we were just about changing 
> >> all to new .edj thing before your mail was
> >> out. sorry for wrong info about theme file placement and eet info,
> >> fixed :)
> >>
> >> the guide on lude.net is btw in some form of "raw" format, no
> >> tricky javascript menu stuff or something, just to keep it simple
> >> for later usage if you like it. i already tried to install
> >> toendaCMS here so that we can work on the guide in "real
> >> conditions" :) but i have to admit that it's unusable without the
> >> help of it's creator...
> >>
> >> also a german translation of the guide is in work, hope it can be
> >> useful too.
> >>
> >> regards
> >> tom
> >>
> >>
> shall I do a translation in french ?
> many people here are interested in DR17 ;-)
> 
> -- 

Yes! Would be really nice! French has most requests so far, so that
would be awesome!

Please keep in mind that is has to be kept up2date too :-) 
(o_O ..that was good english..)

regards!
tom


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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:28:56 + Valtteri Vainikka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Bbabbled:
(B
(B> Hey all,
(B> 
(B> I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users guide me
(B> and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete now :) Please see
(B> http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version, including the
(B> layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have the "Unofficial" tag
(B> of course. We've gone through the text with help from alot of people
(B> quite many times already so it should be (fairly) error and typo free
(B> now. If you have some spare time, please give it a scan if you see
(B> anything that should be changed. As alread said in the previous mail,
(B> the point of the guide is to provide user-level documentation for E17,
(B> which would help the the early adopters, testers and perhaps
(B> developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work in progress
(B> guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in sync" with
(B> everything in CVS.
(B> 
(B> In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also need
(B> to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified) and
(B> perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
(B> system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
(B> nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.
(B
(Bok (i have finally gotten to reading this - damn all this e-mail. i spend more
(Bthan 50% of the time i could be coding doing email)!!!
(B
(Banwyay. comments:
(B
(B"By default only one window is used - you can add more virtual desktops from the
(Bmenu. Keybindings aren't"
(B
(Bby default its now 4x1 virtual desktops (not window :) ) :)
(B
(Byou should note that middle mouse button may change too for the desktop - this
(Bis a temporary hack :) 
(B
(Balso now they are .EDJ not .EET files :) (to be less ambiguous) :)
(B
(Bbtw: themes can also be put in ~/.e/e/themes/ and if you put a personal
(Bdefault.eet there it will be used instead of the system one... but u'd have to
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(Bwe add features and that means adding things to the theme and edje - things may
(Bnot work if you have a personal theme and are not FASTIDIOUS in keeping it in
(Bsync with changes to the default theme :)
(B
(Bunder "what are these different binary formats" you might want to point out that
(BALL of them are actually eet archive files underneath - each just containing
(Bspecialised data for each purpose. .eapp files are just edje files with extra
(Bdata appended to the eet archive for app info :)
(B
(Bunder "I've seen some nice flame and snow effects in various E17
(Bvideos/screenshots. I can't seem to find them?" it's snow and flame modules, not
(Bsnow and temperature :)
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread Piotr Skamruk
* gimpel, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) napisał:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:15 +0100
> Thijs Thiessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > About translations.. Shall I do one in Dutch?
> > 
> > 
> > Thijs Thiessens
> > (The Netherlands)
> > 
> 
> Yeah! Would be great if it helps dutch people, of course.
> As long there is no guide on enlightenment.org we could put it on
> lude's server.
> redneck is about to translate it into Italian, and a guy
> from #e perhaps does french one. 
> 
> But one thing: you'd have to maintain it, which means as soon as there
> are bigger (needed or wanted) changes to the site, we would also have to
> update Dutch, German and other versions.
> 
> If you want to use current version, i could send you a "snapshot", or
> just wget it. 
if there is no other willing i'll do polish translation of this
document... of cours, if i'll find some bugs (like sended in upper
posts) i'll notify author.

  greatings
  jell


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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread Thijs Thiessens
Ok.. I'll wgetit than..
Thijs Thiessens
Piotr Skamruk wrote:
* gimpel, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) napisa³:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:15 +0100
Thijs Thiessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

About translations.. Shall I do one in Dutch?
Thijs Thiessens
(The Netherlands)
Yeah! Would be great if it helps dutch people, of course.
As long there is no guide on enlightenment.org we could put it on
lude's server.
redneck is about to translate it into Italian, and a guy
from #e perhaps does french one. 

But one thing: you'd have to maintain it, which means as soon as there
are bigger (needed or wanted) changes to the site, we would also have to
update Dutch, German and other versions.
If you want to use current version, i could send you a "snapshot", or
just wget it. 
if there is no other willing i'll do polish translation of this
document... of cours, if i'll find some bugs (like sended in upper
posts) i'll notify author.
  greatings
  jell
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread Julien Derveeuw
Thijs Thiessens wrote:
About translations.. Shall I do one in Dutch?
Thijs Thiessens
(The Netherlands)
gimpel wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:40:35 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:28:56 + Valtteri Vainikka
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

Hey all,
I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users guide me
and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete now :) Please
see http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version, including the
layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have the "Unofficial" tag
of course. We've gone through the text with help from alot of people
quite many times already so it should be (fairly) error and typo
free now. If you have some spare time, please give it a scan if you
see anything that should be changed. As alread said in the previous
mail, the point of the guide is to provide user-level documentation
for E17, which would help the the early adopters, testers and
perhaps developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work
in progress guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in
sync" with everything in CVS.
In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also
need to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified)
and perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.

ok (i have finally gotten to reading this - damn all this e-mail. i
spend more than 50% of the time i could be coding doing email)!!!
anwyay. comments:
"By default only one window is used - you can add more virtual
desktops from the menu. Keybindings aren't"
by default its now 4x1 virtual desktops (not window :) ) :)
you should note that middle mouse button may change too for the
desktop - this is a temporary hack :)
also now they are .EDJ not .EET files :) (to be less ambiguous) :)
btw: themes can also be put in ~/.e/e/themes/ and if you put a
personal default.eet there it will be used instead of the system
one... but u'd have to overwrite this file to change themes. this is
also a minefield for problems - if we add features and that means
adding things to the theme and edje - things may not work if you have
a personal theme and are not FASTIDIOUS in keeping it in sync with
changes to the default theme :)
under "what are these different binary formats" you might want to
point out that ALL of them are actually eet archive files underneath
- each just containing specialised data for each purpose. .eapp files
are just edje files with extra data appended to the eet archive for
app info :)
under "I've seen some nice flame and snow effects in various E17
videos/screenshots. I can't seem to find them?" it's snow and flame
modules, not snow and temperature :)

--

Hi all!
first post on devel list from my side. so first many thanks for
enlightening my days with these awesome stuff. couldn't imagine to use
any other wm.
raster, thanks for scanning the guide! we were just about changing 
all to new .edj thing before your mail was
out. sorry for wrong info about theme file placement and eet info,
fixed :)

the guide on lude.net is btw in some form of "raw" format, no tricky
javascript menu stuff or something, just to keep it simple for later
usage if you like it. i already tried to install toendaCMS here so that
we can work on the guide in "real conditions" :) but i have to admit 
that it's unusable without the help of it's
creator...

also a german translation of the guide is in work, hope it can be
useful too.
regards
tom

shall I do a translation in french ?
many people here are interested in DR17 ;-)
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:18:41 +0100 gimpel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
(B
(B> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:40:35 +0900
(B> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(B> 
(B> > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:28:56 + Valtteri Vainikka
(B> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
(B> > 
(B> > > Hey all,
(B> > > 
(B> > > I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users guide me
(B> > > and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete now :) Please
(B> > > see http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version, including the
(B> > > layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have the "Unofficial" tag
(B> > > of course. We've gone through the text with help from alot of people
(B> > > quite many times already so it should be (fairly) error and typo
(B> > > free now. If you have some spare time, please give it a scan if you
(B> > > see anything that should be changed. As alread said in the previous
(B> > > mail, the point of the guide is to provide user-level documentation
(B> > > for E17, which would help the the early adopters, testers and
(B> > > perhaps developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work
(B> > > in progress guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in
(B> > > sync" with everything in CVS.
(B> > > 
(B> > > In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also
(B> > > need to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified)
(B> > > and perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
(B> > > system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
(B> > > nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.
(B> > 
(B> > ok (i have finally gotten to reading this - damn all this e-mail. i
(B> > spend more than 50% of the time i could be coding doing email)!!!
(B> > 
(B> > anwyay. comments:
(B> > 
(B> > "By default only one window is used - you can add more virtual
(B> > desktops from the menu. Keybindings aren't"
(B> > 
(B> > by default its now 4x1 virtual desktops (not window :) ) :)
(B> > 
(B> > you should note that middle mouse button may change too for the
(B> > desktop - this is a temporary hack :) 
(B> > 
(B> > also now they are .EDJ not .EET files :) (to be less ambiguous) :)
(B> > 
(B> > btw: themes can also be put in ~/.e/e/themes/ and if you put a
(B> > personal default.eet there it will be used instead of the system
(B> > one... but u'd have to overwrite this file to change themes. this is
(B> > also a minefield for problems - if we add features and that means
(B> > adding things to the theme and edje - things may not work if you have
(B> > a personal theme and are not FASTIDIOUS in keeping it in sync with
(B> > changes to the default theme :)
(B> > 
(B> > under "what are these different binary formats" you might want to
(B> > point out that ALL of them are actually eet archive files underneath
(B> > - each just containing specialised data for each purpose. .eapp files
(B> > are just edje files with extra data appended to the eet archive for
(B> > app info :)
(B> > 
(B> > under "I've seen some nice flame and snow effects in various E17
(B> > videos/screenshots. I can't seem to find them?" it's snow and flame
(B> > modules, not snow and temperature :)
(B> > 
(B> > 
(B> > 
(B> > -- 
(B> 
(B> Hi all!
(B> first post on devel list from my side. so first many thanks for
(B> enlightening my days with these awesome stuff. couldn't imagine to use
(B> any other wm.
(B> 
(B> raster, thanks for scanning the guide! 
(B> we were just about changing all to new .edj thing before your mail was
(B> out. sorry for wrong info about theme file placement and eet info,
(B> fixed :)
(B> 
(B> the guide on lude.net is btw in some form of "raw" format, no tricky
(B> javascript menu stuff or something, just to keep it simple for later
(B> usage if you like it. i already tried to install toendaCMS here so that
(B> we can work on the guide in "real conditions" :) 
(B> but i have to admit that it's unusable without the help of it's
(B> creator...
(B> 
(B> also a german translation of the guide is in work, hope it can be
(B> useful too.
(B
(Bthats excellent - other than what i mentioned - it's great. lots of stuff there.
(Blots of work. keep it up :)
(B
(B-- 
(B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --
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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread gimpel
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:46:58 +0100
Piotr Skamruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * gimpel, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) napisa__:
> > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:15 +0100
> > Thijs Thiessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > About translations.. Shall I do one in Dutch?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thijs Thiessens
> > > (The Netherlands)
> > > 
> > 
> > Yeah! Would be great if it helps dutch people, of course.
> > As long there is no guide on enlightenment.org we could put it on
> > lude's server.
> > redneck is about to translate it into Italian, and a guy
> > from #e perhaps does french one. 
> > 
> > But one thing: you'd have to maintain it, which means as soon as
> > there are bigger (needed or wanted) changes to the site, we would
> > also have to update Dutch, German and other versions.
> > 
> > If you want to use current version, i could send you a "snapshot",
> > or just wget it. 
> if there is no other willing i'll do polish translation of this
> document... of cours, if i'll find some bugs (like sended in upper
> posts) i'll notify author.
> 
>   greatings
>   jell
> 

You're very welcome. Polish would be useful too!
Of course let us know about errors, typos etc.

mail addresses are @ credits, don't forget to add yourself :-)

regards!
tom


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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Valtteri Vainikka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-21 20:28]:
> In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also need
> to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified) and
> perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
> system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
> nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.

Okay for me. It doesn't really matter whether there's some glitches left
in the text, since we don't have anything better at the moment anyway ;)

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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread gimpel
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:15 +0100
Thijs Thiessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> About translations.. Shall I do one in Dutch?
> 
> 
> Thijs Thiessens
> (The Netherlands)
> 

Yeah! Would be great if it helps dutch people, of course.
As long there is no guide on enlightenment.org we could put it on
lude's server.
redneck is about to translate it into Italian, and a guy
from #e perhaps does french one. 

But one thing: you'd have to maintain it, which means as soon as there
are bigger (needed or wanted) changes to the site, we would also have to
update Dutch, German and other versions.

If you want to use current version, i could send you a "snapshot", or
just wget it. 

greets!
tom


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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread Thijs Thiessens
About translations.. Shall I do one in Dutch?
Thijs Thiessens
(The Netherlands)
gimpel wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:40:35 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:28:56 + Valtteri Vainikka
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

Hey all,
I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users guide me
and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete now :) Please
see http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version, including the
layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have the "Unofficial" tag
of course. We've gone through the text with help from alot of people
quite many times already so it should be (fairly) error and typo
free now. If you have some spare time, please give it a scan if you
see anything that should be changed. As alread said in the previous
mail, the point of the guide is to provide user-level documentation
for E17, which would help the the early adopters, testers and
perhaps developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work
in progress guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in
sync" with everything in CVS.
In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also
need to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified)
and perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.
ok (i have finally gotten to reading this - damn all this e-mail. i
spend more than 50% of the time i could be coding doing email)!!!
anwyay. comments:
"By default only one window is used - you can add more virtual
desktops from the menu. Keybindings aren't"
by default its now 4x1 virtual desktops (not window :) ) :)
you should note that middle mouse button may change too for the
desktop - this is a temporary hack :) 

also now they are .EDJ not .EET files :) (to be less ambiguous) :)
btw: themes can also be put in ~/.e/e/themes/ and if you put a
personal default.eet there it will be used instead of the system
one... but u'd have to overwrite this file to change themes. this is
also a minefield for problems - if we add features and that means
adding things to the theme and edje - things may not work if you have
a personal theme and are not FASTIDIOUS in keeping it in sync with
changes to the default theme :)
under "what are these different binary formats" you might want to
point out that ALL of them are actually eet archive files underneath
- each just containing specialised data for each purpose. .eapp files
are just edje files with extra data appended to the eet archive for
app info :)
under "I've seen some nice flame and snow effects in various E17
videos/screenshots. I can't seem to find them?" it's snow and flame
modules, not snow and temperature :)

--

Hi all!
first post on devel list from my side. so first many thanks for
enlightening my days with these awesome stuff. couldn't imagine to use
any other wm.
raster, thanks for scanning the guide! 
we were just about changing all to new .edj thing before your mail was
out. sorry for wrong info about theme file placement and eet info,
fixed :)

the guide on lude.net is btw in some form of "raw" format, no tricky
javascript menu stuff or something, just to keep it simple for later
usage if you like it. i already tried to install toendaCMS here so that
we can work on the guide in "real conditions" :) 
but i have to admit that it's unusable without the help of it's
creator...

also a german translation of the guide is in work, hope it can be
useful too.
regards
tom



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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread Thijs Thiessens
gimpel wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:40:35 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:28:56 + Valtteri Vainikka
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

Hey all,
I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users guide me
and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete now :) Please
see http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version, including the
layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have the "Unofficial" tag
of course. We've gone through the text with help from alot of people
quite many times already so it should be (fairly) error and typo
free now. If you have some spare time, please give it a scan if you
see anything that should be changed. As alread said in the previous
mail, the point of the guide is to provide user-level documentation
for E17, which would help the the early adopters, testers and
perhaps developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work
in progress guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in
sync" with everything in CVS.
In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also
need to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified)
and perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.
ok (i have finally gotten to reading this - damn all this e-mail. i
spend more than 50% of the time i could be coding doing email)!!!
anwyay. comments:
"By default only one window is used - you can add more virtual
desktops from the menu. Keybindings aren't"
by default its now 4x1 virtual desktops (not window :) ) :)
you should note that middle mouse button may change too for the
desktop - this is a temporary hack :) 

also now they are .EDJ not .EET files :) (to be less ambiguous) :)
btw: themes can also be put in ~/.e/e/themes/ and if you put a
personal default.eet there it will be used instead of the system
one... but u'd have to overwrite this file to change themes. this is
also a minefield for problems - if we add features and that means
adding things to the theme and edje - things may not work if you have
a personal theme and are not FASTIDIOUS in keeping it in sync with
changes to the default theme :)
under "what are these different binary formats" you might want to
point out that ALL of them are actually eet archive files underneath
- each just containing specialised data for each purpose. .eapp files
are just edje files with extra data appended to the eet archive for
app info :)
under "I've seen some nice flame and snow effects in various E17
videos/screenshots. I can't seem to find them?" it's snow and flame
modules, not snow and temperature :)

--

Hi all!
first post on devel list from my side. so first many thanks for
enlightening my days with these awesome stuff. couldn't imagine to use
any other wm.
raster, thanks for scanning the guide! 
we were just about changing all to new .edj thing before your mail was
out. sorry for wrong info about theme file placement and eet info,
fixed :)

the guide on lude.net is btw in some form of "raw" format, no tricky
javascript menu stuff or something, just to keep it simple for later
usage if you like it. i already tried to install toendaCMS here so that
we can work on the guide in "real conditions" :) 
but i have to admit that it's unusable without the help of it's
creator...

also a german translation of the guide is in work, hope it can be
useful too.
regards
tom


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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-23 Thread gimpel
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:40:35 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:28:56 + Valtteri Vainikka
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> 
> > Hey all,
> > 
> > I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users guide me
> > and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete now :) Please
> > see http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version, including the
> > layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have the "Unofficial" tag
> > of course. We've gone through the text with help from alot of people
> > quite many times already so it should be (fairly) error and typo
> > free now. If you have some spare time, please give it a scan if you
> > see anything that should be changed. As alread said in the previous
> > mail, the point of the guide is to provide user-level documentation
> > for E17, which would help the the early adopters, testers and
> > perhaps developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work
> > in progress guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in
> > sync" with everything in CVS.
> > 
> > In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also
> > need to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified)
> > and perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
> > system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
> > nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.
> 
> ok (i have finally gotten to reading this - damn all this e-mail. i
> spend more than 50% of the time i could be coding doing email)!!!
> 
> anwyay. comments:
> 
> "By default only one window is used - you can add more virtual
> desktops from the menu. Keybindings aren't"
> 
> by default its now 4x1 virtual desktops (not window :) ) :)
> 
> you should note that middle mouse button may change too for the
> desktop - this is a temporary hack :) 
> 
> also now they are .EDJ not .EET files :) (to be less ambiguous) :)
> 
> btw: themes can also be put in ~/.e/e/themes/ and if you put a
> personal default.eet there it will be used instead of the system
> one... but u'd have to overwrite this file to change themes. this is
> also a minefield for problems - if we add features and that means
> adding things to the theme and edje - things may not work if you have
> a personal theme and are not FASTIDIOUS in keeping it in sync with
> changes to the default theme :)
> 
> under "what are these different binary formats" you might want to
> point out that ALL of them are actually eet archive files underneath
> - each just containing specialised data for each purpose. .eapp files
> are just edje files with extra data appended to the eet archive for
> app info :)
> 
> under "I've seen some nice flame and snow effects in various E17
> videos/screenshots. I can't seem to find them?" it's snow and flame
> modules, not snow and temperature :)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 

Hi all!
first post on devel list from my side. so first many thanks for
enlightening my days with these awesome stuff. couldn't imagine to use
any other wm.

raster, thanks for scanning the guide! 
we were just about changing all to new .edj thing before your mail was
out. sorry for wrong info about theme file placement and eet info,
fixed :)

the guide on lude.net is btw in some form of "raw" format, no tricky
javascript menu stuff or something, just to keep it simple for later
usage if you like it. i already tried to install toendaCMS here so that
we can work on the guide in "real conditions" :) 
but i have to admit that it's unusable without the help of it's
creator...

also a german translation of the guide is in work, hope it can be
useful too.

regards
tom




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Re: [E-devel] E17 users guide complete

2005-03-22 Thread Andrew Elcock
Looks good :) - hope this can be made "official" sometime ...
Valtteri Vainikka wrote:
Hey all,
I posted some time ago about the work-in-progress E17 users guide me
and Tom (gimpel) have been working on. It's complete now :) Please see
http://lude.net/edocs - it's the final version, including the
layout/screenshots etc. Currently we still have the "Unofficial" tag
of course. We've gone through the text with help from alot of people
quite many times already so it should be (fairly) error and typo free
now. If you have some spare time, please give it a scan if you see
anything that should be changed. As alread said in the previous mail,
the point of the guide is to provide user-level documentation for E17,
which would help the the early adopters, testers and perhaps
developers completely new to E17. It's meant to be a work in progress
guide that's constantly updated/maintained to be "in sync" with
everything in CVS.
In other words we're waiting for an official "ok" (and we'd also need
to know what, if anything, needs to be changed or clarified) and
perhaps it could be moved to enlightenment.org (?), once the CMS
system is up and running that is. You can also find us on IRC, our
nicks are vrln (me) and gimpel.
regards,
Valtteri
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