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2020-02-17 Thread evln via EV


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Feb 17 2020 
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% imo, BIG $ pulls strings> in all the time Tesla has been
planing a .de factory (see below), there weren't serious
enviro protests or concerns. Suddenly, Tesla's efforts are 
stymied. This anti-Tesla in .de effort smells of both rival
automakers', & short-sellers' shenanigans/maneuvering ... %


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Tesla forced to pause Berlin Gigafactory after
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20 hours ago - A German court has forced Tesla to temporarily halt
preparation work ... However lawmakers from two Germany political parties,
the Christian ...

Tesla charges into Germany – POLITICO
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Nov 13, 2019 - Decision promises to create thousands of jobs around the
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Musk announced the move in the German capital Tuesday night. He added that
“we've decided to put the Tesla Gigafactory Europe in the Berlin area.” The
company will also set up an engineering and design center in Berlin, Musk
said.
Nov 14, 2019
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Opinion | Does Germany's Vaunted Car Industry Have Long to ...
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17 hours ago - Tesla has been ordered by a German court to temporarily halt
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Inside Tesla's assault on Germany's auto establishment - Los ...
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CNBC
Tesla ordered to halt work on German factory amid anger
over chopping down trees
Tesla has been ordered by a German court to temporarily halt preparations
for its new European factory. Environmental activists had raised ...
17 hours ago

MarketWatch
Germany orders Tesla to stop tree-clearing at factory site
A German court has temporarily halted the site preparation for Tesla Inc.'s
first electric car factory in Europe.
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German court halts site preparation for Tesla factory
A German court has temporarily halted the site preparation for Tesla Inc.'s
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legal trouble. A court has said clearing a forest near Berlin must stop ...
22 hours ago

Reuters UK
Tesla ordered by German court to stop cutting down trees
for Gigafactory
A German court on Sunday ordered Tesla Inc to stop clearing forest land near
the capital Berlin to build its first European car and battery factory ...
1 day ago

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German court orders Tesla to stop felling trees for
Gigafactory
A German court has ordered Tesla to stop clearing forest land near Berlin to
build its first European car and battery factory, in what is being ...
1 day ago

U.S. News & World Report
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1 day ago


[EVDL] Germany stops Tesla's Gigafactory

2020-02-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/16/german-court-tesla-
gigafactory-forest

German court orders Tesla to stop felling trees for Gigafactory

Ruling comes after state environmental office greenlit clearance of 92 
hectares of forest

Reuters in Berlin

Sun 16 Feb 2020 12.47 EST 
Last modified on Sun 16 Feb 2020 15.20 EST

A German court has ordered Tesla to stop clearing forest land near Berlin to 
build its first European car and battery factory, in what is being hailed as 
a victory for environmental activists.

The US electric carmaker announced plans last November to build a 
"Gigafactory" in Grünheide in the eastern state of Brandenburg.

The ruling on Sunday, by the higher administrative court of the states of 
Berlin and Brandenburg, comes after the state environmental office gave a 
green light to clear 92 hectares (227 acres) of forest for the plant.

Planning permission has not yet been granted to build the Gigafactory, 
however, meaning Elon Musk´s company is preparing the ground at its own 
risk.

In a statement, the court said it had issued the order to stop the tree-
felling because it would have only taken three more days to complete the 
work. Otherwise the clearance would have been completed before judges made a 
final decision on the complaint brought by a local environmentalist group 
called the Grüne Liga Brandenburg (Green League of Brandenburg).

The court statement said: "It should not be assumed that the motion seeking 
legal protection brought by the Green League lacks any chance of 
succeeding."

Lawmakers from the pro-business Christian Democrat and Free Democrat parties 
have said the legal action against the Gigafactory would inflict serious and 
long-lasting damage on Germany´s image as a place to do business.

Local and national lawmakers have been caught out by the strength of 
opposition to the Gigafactory, with hundreds of demonstrators protesting 
over the threat they say it poses to local wildlife and water supplies.

Tesla currently has two Gigafactories in the US and one in Shanghai, China.

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Re: [EVDL] Back to the future Volt

2020-02-17 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:

I was going to use a simple 12v inverter to 120 VAC and then 2 diode, 2
capacitor voltage doulbler to 330 VDC at 600 mA or so max, straight to the
Volt battery.  No activation of Volt's BMS.  Safety is provided by a
pushbuton activation latch that can only be turned on when I know there is
room in the battery for 4 miles or more and sun is shining.  When the sun
goes down, the latch falls out and any subsequent days, will not activate
unless I push the  button when there is the 4 miles range available at the
top.  So all I need to find is the tap point directly to the battery before
the contactors.  Fuses and diodes will also be used.


That should work as well. If you use a halfwave doubler circuit (the one 
with a series capacitor in one AC leg), it has an intrinsic current 
limit, defined by the value of that capacitor.


I like your idea of an automatic shutoff. When I've done "bad boy" 
chargers like this, I've included a spring-wound timer that shuts it off 
after X hours. That way if I forget, it still turns itself off.


Just be careful! Make it as fool-proof as you can (because fools can be 
so darn clever). As Marco says, there are lots of opportunity for 
mistakes in this setup!


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Re: [EVDL] Porsche Taycan 93kWh EV review on motorweek.org

2020-02-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Feb 2020 at 12:51, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:

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I presume that the manufacturer has thought about this and designed the 
battery such that it can split in the middle and charge from a standard 50kW 
DCFC that is used to charge 400V EVs, charging the two halves in parallel.

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Re: [EVDL] Back to the future Volt

2020-02-17 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I was going to use a simple 12v inverter to 120 VAC and then 2 diode, 2
capacitor voltage doulbler to 330 VDC at 600 mA or so max, straight to the
Volt battery.  No activation of Volt's BMS.  Safety is provided by a
pushbuton activation latch that can only be turned on when I know there is
room in the battery for 4 miles or more and sun is shining.  When the sun
goes down, the latch falls out and any subsequent days, will not activate
unless I push the  button when there is the 4 miles range available at the
top.  So all I need to find is the tap point directly to the battery before
the contactors.  Fuses and diodes will also be used.

Bob

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 3:37 AM Ing. Marco Gaxiola 
wrote:

> Hey Rob..
>
> Hopefully you recover quickly and ready for that EV project.
>
> With regards using the 240W solar to charge the HV battery; that may not
> be that easy if you want to do that Straight DC to DC:
>
> - First you will need to have an efficient DC-DC step-up converter from
> 20-40Vdc into something around 300-400Vdc with MPPT feature. (Not easy to
> get).
>
> - Then the most complicated part you’ll have to wake certain modules up
> from the Volt (BCM, HV charger, BMS and maybe a few other) so it can
> properly track the energy being generated by your solar panel.
>
>But that won’t be easy. In fact, it will be quite complex since all
> these modules requires to see the AC power from the EVSE, sense the pilot
> and proximity signals in order to close HV contactors. And those conditions
> may not exist or if they do, may set Trouble codes since no AC will be
> present.
>
>
> An idea just came to my mind,  very very basic but efective suggestion
> would be: to build a box with a considerable size 12.8V LiFePO4 battery, an
> ‘Off the shelf’ solar charger controller and a 1.5Kw 12v-120v AC inverter
> to generate Level1 enough to use the Volt onboard charger.
>
> An internal automatic inter connection in between the inlet charge
> port can be made, so nothing can be seen from outside while charging from
> solar.
>
> The solar panel will continuously charge the 12.8V lithium pack all
> the times. When enough charge and vehicle is turned off, it can start L1
> charging the car. When the charge on that lithium battery goes low, the
> charge controller will automatically cut off the output but the solar will
> continue to charge the battery to a minimum set point, after some
> minutes/half hr. output will re-enable and L1 charge re-start for a few
> minutes again.
>
> This process can go over and over as long there is sun and car
> requires the charge. It’s not the best and most efficient way but will work
> with no problem.
>
>
> Marco
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 16, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV 
> wrote:
> >
> > When I recover in a few months, you can see my ideas for flattening the
> roof
> > and  adding 240W of solar panels to my Volt in a Back-to-the-future
> design
> > on this web page.  Also adding a bed for a Volt-Inn.
> >
> > I know it makes no practical economic sense, but makes it a real
> eye-catcher
> > and conversation starter.
> >
> > Now all I have to figure out is where I can feed in the 300 VDC for
> charging
> > the HV battery...
> >
> > http://aprs.org/my-EVs.html
> >
> > Bob
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Re: [EVDL] Porsche Taycan 93kWh EV review on motorweek.org

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Re: [EVDL] Back to the future Volt

2020-02-17 Thread Marco Gaxiola via EV
Hey Lee, Rob,

 Ahh if the hack is something you can do safely, then let's do it. But
want to mention some other things to consider:

- Lee, yes, using that half portion of a 12-120Vac inverter is a great
idea, I've done that before and is especially efficient (high frequency V
step-up electronics). But in the case of a 12-120V inverter, those will
only get to a max of 300V (in fact, it is a little bit less. Usually the
Caps are 300V Max. rated) and in the case of the Volt (almost any actual EV
in the market) are made of 96 cells in series, which have a voltage span
from 310V to 403V..ish from 0 to 100% SOC. (Volt x cell goes from 3.25V to
4.2V approx.) so that inverter wouldn't be able to provide enough high
voltage to 'transfer' the energy from the solar panel. a 12-240Vac inverter
would be needed instead.

- Then, how would you control the current on the HV side? those inverters
usually dump as much power as possible and it is up to the HV H-Bridge (the
one in charge of creating the AC since wave), the one that measures current
to prevent the damage of their electronics. In this case, if you
successfully make the voltage go higher how that would be controlled?
Also, since the 12-120V inverter does not have MPPT like all solar charge
controllers, if the sun is not powerful enough (at dusk and at down or in
partial shadow) the inverter will try to get more power out the solar, but
the solar panel won't be able to meet that request and then the inverter
will halt and that may damage it or create weird behavior.

- Third; if you dump that power directly into the HV battery, the on-board
BMS won't be able to sense/track that (since it will be on sleep mode) and
after some hrs of energy transfer accumulated, you will 'Off-set' the BMS
parameters and pretty sure the gauges on your dashboard will become
inaccurate and maybe set some trouble codes as well.  The other concern is,
what if you are almost fully charged and you start 'overcharging' cells
with no BMS supervision/management? I don't think it would be a good idea.

- Finally, adding that HV circuitry, may also impact the internal HV
isolation for the complete wiring system. Again, with the possibility to
set trouble codes on the BMS and worst case scenario; prevent it from
closing HV contactors when about to drive.

...my 2 cents


Marco Gaxiola

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:38 AM Gail Lucas via EV 
wrote:

> Bob,
>
> So nice to have you back. It will be interesting to see your new project
> when you are putting it together. I hope you recover quickly so you can
> resume your activities.
>
> Gail
>
>
> On 2/16/2020 1:10 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> > When I recover in a few months, you can see my ideas for flattening the
> roof
> > and  adding 240W of solar panels to my Volt in a Back-to-the-future
> design
> > on this web page.  Also adding a bed for a Volt-Inn.
> >
> > I know it makes no practical economic sense, but makes it a real
> eye-catcher
> > and conversation starter.
> >
> > Now all I have to figure out is where I can feed in the 300 VDC for
> charging
> > the HV battery...
> >
> > http://aprs.org/my-EVs.html
> >
> > Bob
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Re: [EVDL] Back to the future Volt

2020-02-17 Thread Gail Lucas via EV

Bob,

So nice to have you back. It will be interesting to see your new project 
when you are putting it together. I hope you recover quickly so you can 
resume your activities.


Gail


On 2/16/2020 1:10 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:

When I recover in a few months, you can see my ideas for flattening the roof
and  adding 240W of solar panels to my Volt in a Back-to-the-future design
on this web page.  Also adding a bed for a Volt-Inn.

I know it makes no practical economic sense, but makes it a real eye-catcher
and conversation starter.

Now all I have to figure out is where I can feed in the 300 VDC for charging
the HV battery...

http://aprs.org/my-EVs.html

Bob
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Re: [EVDL] Back to the future Volt

2020-02-17 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Ing. Marco Gaxiola via EV wrote:

An idea... build a box with a considerable size 12.8V
LiFePO4 battery, an ‘Off the shelf’ solar charger controller and a
1.5Kw 12v-120v AC inverter to generate Level-1 enough to use the Volt
onboard charger.


That's a good "off the shelf" solution that shouldn't require any 
internal hacking on the commercial "black boxes".


But, I think Bob is a pretty good hacker. So another option would be to 
open up a 12vdc-to-120vac inverter. Most of them have a boost converter 
to step up 12vdc to about 300vdc. This normally powers an internal 
DC-to-AC inverter for the output; but you could bring it out as HVDC, 
and use it directly to charge the pack.


You'd have to find the resistor divider that sets the 300vdc output 
voltage, and trim it to produce a safe maximum for charging the HV pack. 
Be Safe! Be sure to use HV rated connectors and fuses, and a fail-safe 
method to prevent overcharging.


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Re: [EVDL] Porsche Taycan 93kWh EV review on motorweek.org

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Re: [EVDL] Porsche Taycan 93kWh EV review on motorweek.org

2020-02-17 Thread paul dove via EV
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>> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a30531280/porsche-taycan-turbo-s-range-epa/
>> Porsche Taycan EV's EPA Range Goes from Bad to Worse
>> Jan 15, 2020  The more powerful Turbo S model is rated to provide even less
>> range than the Turbo ... The EPA's range estimate for the Porsche Taycan
>> Turbo S electric car is a low 192 miles ...
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Re: [EVDL] Porsche Taycan 93kWh EV review on motorweek.org

2020-02-17 Thread paul dove via EV
edes presented a concept of an 
> electric ... kW – Mercedes seems to be switching to 800 volt 
> technology with the next ...
> https://www.electrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/mercedes-benz-vis
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> https://www.motorweek.org/about/upcoming_and_past_shows/episode-episod
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> Episode 3924 Debut 2.14.2020
> Description
> Track Test: 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S ... (the rest about ice)
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> https://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=2346
> Episode #3924H Duration: 26:46 SRND51 TVG
> R/T: '20 PORSCHE TAYCAN TURBO S R/T ...
> Upcoming Broadcasts:
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> 2021 Polestar 1 EV Episode 3919
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> https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/P50https://www.motorweek.
> org/reviews/road_tests/P50
> 2019 Nissan Leaf Plus Episode 3837
> 2019 Kia Niro EV Episode 3835 ...
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> + (dated)
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a30531280/porsche-taycan-turbo-s-ran
> ge-epa/ Porsche Taycan EV's EPA Range Goes from Bad to Worse Jan 15, 
> 2020  The more powerful Turbo S model is rated to provide even less 
> range than the Turbo ... The EPA's range estimate for the Porsche 
> Taycan Turbo S electric car is a low 192 miles ...
> https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/2020-pors
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Re: [EVDL] Back to the future Volt

2020-02-17 Thread Ing. Marco Gaxiola via EV
Hey Rob.. 

Hopefully you recover quickly and ready for that EV project. 

With regards using the 240W solar to charge the HV battery; that may not be 
that easy if you want to do that Straight DC to DC:

- First you will need to have an efficient DC-DC step-up converter from 
20-40Vdc into something around 300-400Vdc with MPPT feature. (Not easy to get). 

- Then the most complicated part you’ll have to wake certain modules up from 
the Volt (BCM, HV charger, BMS and maybe a few other) so it can properly track 
the energy being generated by your solar panel. 

   But that won’t be easy. In fact, it will be quite complex since all these 
modules requires to see the AC power from the EVSE, sense the pilot and 
proximity signals in order to close HV contactors. And those conditions may not 
exist or if they do, may set Trouble codes since no AC will be present. 


An idea just came to my mind,  very very basic but efective suggestion 
would be: to build a box with a considerable size 12.8V LiFePO4 battery, an 
‘Off the shelf’ solar charger controller and a 1.5Kw 12v-120v AC inverter to 
generate Level1 enough to use the Volt onboard charger. 

An internal automatic inter connection in between the inlet charge port can 
be made, so nothing can be seen from outside while charging from solar.

The solar panel will continuously charge the 12.8V lithium pack all the 
times. When enough charge and vehicle is turned off, it can start L1 charging 
the car. When the charge on that lithium battery goes low, the charge 
controller will automatically cut off the output but the solar will continue to 
charge the battery to a minimum set point, after some minutes/half hr. output 
will re-enable and L1 charge re-start for a few minutes again. 

This process can go over and over as long there is sun and car requires the 
charge. It’s not the best and most efficient way but will work with no problem. 


Marco


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> On Feb 16, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV  
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> 
> When I recover in a few months, you can see my ideas for flattening the roof
> and  adding 240W of solar panels to my Volt in a Back-to-the-future design
> on this web page.  Also adding a bed for a Volt-Inn.
> 
> I know it makes no practical economic sense, but makes it a real eye-catcher
> and conversation starter.
> 
> Now all I have to figure out is where I can feed in the 300 VDC for charging
> the HV battery...
> 
> http://aprs.org/my-EVs.html
> 
> Bob
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