Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

[Peter VanDerWal via EV]

If it's an "Energy Star" fridge then its not likely to be a simple timer. More 
likely it is some kind of algorythm that makes calculations based on how often 
and how long the door is open, possibly even taking into account humidity, etc.

Might also be some kind of frost sensor.
​​​
I know on my fridge, I will sometimes see it go into defrost twice in a week, 
at other times maybe once a month, or less. Definitely not a timer.

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March 23, 2021 2:35 PM, "Robert Bruninga" mailto:bruni...@usna.edu?to=%22Robert%20Bruninga%22%20)> 
wrote:
 When the refer defrost strip-heater kicks in and my house is on the 1.5 kW 
inverter, it drops the load and we go dark. But then simply cycling power 
restores is because the drop of power resets the "energy-star" design will NOT 
let the defrost come on when power is restored, so you probably get another 
LONG delay before it tries again. I have never understood the strip heater 
timing whether it comes on once a day or 8 hours or a week. And/or what the 
restart cycle is after a power outage.
Butr so far with our power outages lasting no more than a few minutes to maybe 
an hour over the last ten years, I have not had the honor of watching the 
defrost timing. 
bob  
 On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:55 PM Peter VanDerWal via EV mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org)> wrote: Well, apparently the Tesla's onboard level-2 
charger is (theoretically) capable of bidirectional capability. So V2G/V2H 
might just require a software upgrade.

Musk has stated that the Cybertrucks will have onboard AC outlets, possibly 
even 240V outlets capable of powering a small house, or perhaps an average 
size, energy efficient house.

Not counting the oven, dryer, or EV charging, my house does not use more than 
~3kw. If I actively manage my loads I can keep it down below 1.5kw. A large 
part of the reason I'm making my house "smarter" is to allow the computer to 
shift loads in order to keep draw below 1.5kw. I.E. don't allow the HP water 
heater and Mini-Splt to run at the same time, etc.
Actually, as long as it's not below freezing out, and the Fridge doesn't go 
into defrost mode; I can run the Fridge, Freezer, HP Water Heater, Mini-Split 
and my home network without going over 1.5 kw.

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March 23, 2021 9:14 AM, "Willie via EV" mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org)> wrote:

> On 3/23/21 11:02 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote:
>
>> On 3/23/21 9:04 AM, Willie via EV wrote:
>>> People have claimed that it would not be possible to get DC power
>>> out of the charge connector on a Tesla. I'm skeptical. Will you
>>> offer an opinion?
>>
>> Since Tesla's support DC fast charging, it means they have the
>> capability to connect the battery directly to the fast charging ports on
>> the charge connector (via contractors I assume). So the capability
>> definitely exists, but you would have to have software support from
>> Tesla or trick them into thinking they are connected to a supercharger
>> (and if the car is programmed to shut off any "SuperChargers" that
>> "steal" power instead of providing it even that wouldn't work.)
>
> Yes, I agree it would likely be non-productive for a Tesla owner to try
> to work at odds with Tesla. If Tesla doesn't want it to happen, it will
> not likely happen. OTOH, I think (and hope) that Tesla will soon be
> offering V2H/V2G in response to the VW challenge.
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Bob Bath via EV]

So bizarre. I lost my first bar after 11 MPs and not another since. LeafSpy app 
saying I’m at 79%. 
   I don’t mind charging every trip during winter, but why should I when my 
wife’s Bolt is throwing down 225 mi/charge? 

Sincerely, 
Bob Bath

Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 55 y.o. 
vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not 
cluelessness. 


> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Jay Summet via EV  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/25/21 9:56 AM, Willie via EV wrote:
>> Congratulations on your very good Leaf battery luck! 
> 
> My understanding is that the performance is typical for 2015 Leafs (the 
> 2011/2012 and some of the 2013 models definitely had the "learning 
> batteries", much like the original Tesla Roadster).
> 
>> Though I'm not sure how useful 80% of a small Leaf battery is.
> 
> 
> It had 100 miles range originally, and is now closer to 80 miles. 
> (Considering I upgraded from an S-10 conversion that had 30-50 miles of 
> range, plus no real indication of the range remaining, it's doing quite well 
> for me ;> )
> 
> Jay
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y fluids etc access

[Mark Hanson via EV]

Wow thanks a bunch Phil!  Now I know enough to be dangerous.  Good pointers on 
maintenance intervals.  
Best regards 
Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2021, at 1:37 PM, (-Phil-)  wrote:


Open the frunk, you'll clearly see a big plastic panel between the windshield 
and frunk "tub".  This will just unsnap, so grab a side and yank upwards.

Here's what it looks like with all the plastic removed, including the frunk tub:

Upper right you can see the brake master cylinder (DOT4).  Middle right, the 
12v AGM battery, Middle left, is the "superbottle" that holds all the glycol 
(G48 coolant ONLY).  Lower left is the "super manifold" for the heat pump that 
has the Liquid-cooled condenser, the receiver/dryer, the chiller, and all the 
expansion valves and "octavalve" and pumps for the glycol.  To the lower right 
is the HVAC compressor.  (newer ones like yours will have a black foam covering 
for NVH.  Far upper left you can see the 2 glycol lines for cooling the ICE 
(Car/Autopilot computer) that's on the other side of the firewall, and upper 
middle are the 5 R1234yf refrigerant lines that run into the cabin for HVAC.  
In between this and the 2 glycol lines for the ICE is the air intake plenum.  
Normally there is a big duct here that sucks air from the windshield base 
plenum.

The only thing you should ever need to do under here is replace the 12v battery 
or the DOT4 brake fluid.  I recommend every 2 years in a humid/coastal climate, 
or every 5 years otherwise.   Brake fluid is highly hygroscopic.   Expect 2-7 
years for the 12v battery depending on climate and usage.

The G48 glycol coolant (blue stuff) never needs replacement.

I'd replace the drive unit lubricant every 5 years if I was planning on keeping 
it forever.  (You should probably let Tesla do this, mainly as it's unobtanium.)

> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 7:17 AM Mark Hanson via EV  wrote:
> Hi folks 
> When I open the frunk on the Tesla Y I just see A window washer Cap.  How do 
> you access the brake fluid cap, coolant reservoirs and other maintenance 
> items?
> Does anyone know where to get a shop manual or service manual on the Y?   The 
> dealer said they could get one, then vaporized after the sale   Best regards 
> Mark 
> 
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Jay Summet via EV]

On 3/25/21 9:56 AM, Willie via EV wrote:
Congratulations on your very good Leaf battery luck! 


My understanding is that the performance is typical for 2015 Leafs (the 
2011/2012 and some of the 2013 models definitely had the "learning 
batteries", much like the original Tesla Roadster).


Though I'm not 
sure how useful 80% of a small Leaf battery is.



It had 100 miles range originally, and is now closer to 80 miles. 
(Considering I upgraded from an S-10 conversion that had 30-50 miles of 
range, plus no real indication of the range remaining, it's doing quite 
well for me ;> )


Jay
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

[Peri Hartman via EV]

Yes, I looked at that and really tried hard to see if it would work. But 
it's just too big for me. It's too long for city parking and too high to 
fit in parking garages. The turning radius is amazing, though. And the 
range might be ok, but I would need to know what to expect at 70 mph 
with heat and defrost (but since the other parameters don't work for me, 
I don't need to know the range right now).


Peri

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-- Original Message --
From: "(-Phil-)" 
To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion 
List" 

Sent: 25-Mar-21 10:57:39 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

FYI: The 136" wheelbase low-roof is the smallest Van we can convert.  
If it's not loaded it gets way better mileage.   Probably not 250, but 
close!





On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:23 AM Peri Hartman via EV 
 wrote:
For me, replacing the Leaf battery isn't worth the cost. I'd rather 
put

that money into a new vehicle where I can get substantially longer
range. In other words, if I were to get 150 mile range with a new
battery (and I don't think that is possible for the 2011 Leaf), that 
is

still to short for out-of-town trips so would I gain little additional
value.

My best option, if my wife agrees, is to get a small van capable of at
least 250 miles with heat and defrost on. Then we could be a one car
household. A small NEV for local errands might be worthwhile, too. 
There
are no such vans available at the moment (or even large SUVs aside 
from
Tesla X, which is too expensive). The closest would be Phil's 
Promaster
conversions, but they are too large for my needs and (I think) not 
quite

enough range.

Peri


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Re: [EVDL] Ps, wattage draw? EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[(-Phil-) via EV]

Tesla is shutting down it's forum.  Best resource is TMC:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:30 AM paul dove via EV  wrote:

>  https://forums.tesla.com/
>
> I suggest you join the Tesla Forum
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021, 8:33:54 AM CDT, Mark Hanson via EV <
> ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>
>  Ps. Do you know how many watts the humming ghost load is and how many
> watts it’s using in sentry mode?
> Best regards
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Mark Hanson  wrote:
>
> Thanks a bunch Phil
> That’s good to know.  Probably don’t need sentry mode out in the boonies.
> Is it easy to disable? I assume menu then security , something like that.
> Best regards
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 2:17 AM, (-Phil-)  wrote:
>
> 
> The only way to stop a Tesla from using some small amount per day is to
> disconnect the 12v.  Welcome to a connected car!
>
> If you disable sentry mode completely you can get the phantom drain pretty
> low.
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 6:45 PM mark hanson via EV 
> wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >
> >
> > My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage
> for
> > hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way
> to
> > turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
> > silent when parked.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also Dave put my trailer wiring for the Bolt EV on www.EVDL.org/lib/mh
> .  I
> > dug into the Tesla-Y wire harness tonight behind tail lights - so I'll
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> > trailer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Have a renewable energy day,
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

[(-Phil-) via EV]

FYI: The 136" wheelbase low-roof is the smallest Van we can convert.  If
it's not loaded it gets way better mileage.   Probably not 250, but close!




On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:23 AM Peri Hartman via EV 
wrote:

> For me, replacing the Leaf battery isn't worth the cost. I'd rather put
> that money into a new vehicle where I can get substantially longer
> range. In other words, if I were to get 150 mile range with a new
> battery (and I don't think that is possible for the 2011 Leaf), that is
> still to short for out-of-town trips so would I gain little additional
> value.
>
> My best option, if my wife agrees, is to get a small van capable of at
> least 250 miles with heat and defrost on. Then we could be a one car
> household. A small NEV for local errands might be worthwhile, too. There
> are no such vans available at the moment (or even large SUVs aside from
> Tesla X, which is too expensive). The closest would be Phil's Promaster
> conversions, but they are too large for my needs and (I think) not quite
> enough range.
>
> Peri
>
> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Lee Hart via EV" 
> To: "Peri Hartman via EV" 
> Cc: "Lee Hart" 
> Sent: 25-Mar-21 10:13:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)
>
> >Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> >>Our 2011 Leaf has about 35-50 mile range, depending on weather. That's
> pretty minimal, I know, but completely adequate for everything in the city
> and even a bit further. Depends where you live. (Still, I want to replace
> it, but - you've seen my other posts - it's not so easy to find something
> that will replace both our cars with one.)
> >
> >We have a 2013 Leaf with about 35K miles on it. So far, no noticeable
> degradation in range. There must be some, but it can still do 80 miles on a
> charge in warm weather.
> >
> >There may be extenuating circumstances. I'm an old hand at driving EVs,
> and drive like an old man (I *am* an old man)! We live in a small town, so
> trips are short and we've never stressed its range. We don't get hot
> weather, so heat degradation should be minimal. And we normally charge to
> 80% (the 2013 gives us that option).
> >
> >Peri, have you looked into what it would cost to replace your Leaf's
> battery with a newer one?
> >
> >Lee
> >
> >-- All children are born engineers. Watch them at play. They're not
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

[Lee Hart via EV]

Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
My best option, if my wife agrees, is to get a small van capable of at 
least 250 miles with heat and defrost on. Then we could be a one car 
household. A small NEV for local errands might be worthwhile, too. There 
are no such vans available at the moment (or even large SUVs aside from 
Tesla X, which is too expensive). The closest would be Phil's Promaster 
conversions, but they are too large for my needs and (I think) not quite 
enough range.


The technology certainly exists to do this. My 1992 Dodge minivan with 
manual transmission easily got 30 mpg, so its basic efficiency was good. 
It was rated to carry 1540 lbs, which is a lot of batteries. If 
converted into an EV with a Tesla pack, it should have been able to 
provide a 250-300 mile range.


But, no one wants to build such a thing. Today's "minivans" are a foot 
wider, 2 feet longer, weigh half a ton more, and can carry less weight. 
It seems that Americans can only get big expensive heavy vehicles.


Lee Hart

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Re: [EVDL] Tesla releases service manuals, diagnostic tools, more for free - Electrek

[(-Phil-) via EV]

You can still sign up for a subscription at https://service.teslamotors.com/
to get access to the service manual, but it's expensive, and they
intentionally worked really hard to try to stop you from downloading it.

24 HR SUBSCRIPTION $100.00
MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION $350.00
ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION $3000.00

If you are curious about the inner workings the service manual is not that
interesting.  Watch some of my Youtube videos on the Model 3 (almost the
same as the Y):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwPiVR1Wtwc1cxO0vlvx5rDnHShUuHvXS



On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 9:39 AM Collin Kidder via EV 
wrote:

> The story is in error. Tesla didn't actually do that on purpose and
> nearly immediately pulled the plug once green told everyone about it.
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:27 AM Mark Hanson via EV 
> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like Tesla is being forced into releasing service info from a law
> passed in Massachusetts in December.
> >
> https://electrek.co/2020/12/04/tesla-releases-service-manuals-diagnostic-tools-more-free/
> > Stay charged
> > Mark
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y fluids etc access

[(-Phil-) via EV]

Open the frunk, you'll clearly see a big plastic panel between the
windshield and frunk "tub".  This will just unsnap, so grab a side and yank
upwards.

Here's what it looks like with all the plastic removed, including the frunk
tub:

Upper right you can see the brake master cylinder (DOT4).  Middle right,
the 12v AGM battery, Middle left, is the "superbottle" that holds all the
glycol (G48 coolant ONLY).  Lower left is the "super manifold" for the heat
pump that has the Liquid-cooled condenser, the receiver/dryer, the chiller,
and all the expansion valves and "octavalve" and pumps for the glycol.  To
the lower right is the HVAC compressor.  (newer ones like yours will have a
black foam covering for NVH.  Far upper left you can see the 2 glycol lines
for cooling the ICE (Car/Autopilot computer) that's on the other side of
the firewall, and upper middle are the 5 R1234yf refrigerant lines that run
into the cabin for HVAC.  In between this and the 2 glycol lines for the
ICE is the air intake plenum.  Normally there is a big duct here that sucks
air from the windshield base plenum.

The only thing you should ever need to do under here is replace the 12v
battery or the DOT4 brake fluid.  I recommend every 2 years in a
humid/coastal climate, or every 5 years otherwise.   Brake fluid is highly
hygroscopic.   Expect 2-7 years for the 12v battery depending on climate
and usage.

The G48 glycol coolant (blue stuff) never needs replacement.

I'd replace the drive unit lubricant every 5 years if I was planning on
keeping it forever.  (You should probably let Tesla do this, mainly as it's
unobtanium.)

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 7:17 AM Mark Hanson via EV 
wrote:

> Hi folks
> When I open the frunk on the Tesla Y I just see A window washer Cap.  How
> do you access the brake fluid cap, coolant reservoirs and other maintenance
> items?
> Does anyone know where to get a shop manual or service manual on the Y?
>  The dealer said they could get one, then vaporized after the sale   Best
> regards
> Mark
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Re: [EVDL] Ps, wattage draw? EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[paul dove via EV]

 https://forums.tesla.com/

I suggest you join the Tesla Forum




On Thursday, March 25, 2021, 8:33:54 AM CDT, Mark Hanson via EV 
 wrote:  
 
 Ps. Do you know how many watts the humming ghost load is and how many watts 
it’s using in sentry mode?
Best regards
Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Mark Hanson  wrote:

Thanks a bunch Phil
That’s good to know.  Probably don’t need sentry mode out in the boonies.  Is 
it easy to disable? I assume menu then security , something like that. 
Best regards
Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2021, at 2:17 AM, (-Phil-)  wrote:


The only way to stop a Tesla from using some small amount per day is to 
disconnect the 12v.  Welcome to a connected car!

If you disable sentry mode completely you can get the phantom drain pretty low.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 6:45 PM mark hanson via EV  wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> 
> 
> My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage for
> hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way to
> turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
> silent when parked.
> 
> 
> 
> Also Dave put my trailer wiring for the Bolt EV on www.EVDL.org/lib/mh .  I
> dug into the Tesla-Y wire harness tonight behind tail lights - so I'll have
> one for the Tesla-Y soon using similar diodes.  Must have LEDs on your
> trailer.
> 
> 
> 
> Have a renewable energy day,
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

[Peri Hartman via EV]

For me, replacing the Leaf battery isn't worth the cost. I'd rather put 
that money into a new vehicle where I can get substantially longer 
range. In other words, if I were to get 150 mile range with a new 
battery (and I don't think that is possible for the 2011 Leaf), that is 
still to short for out-of-town trips so would I gain little additional 
value.


My best option, if my wife agrees, is to get a small van capable of at 
least 250 miles with heat and defrost on. Then we could be a one car 
household. A small NEV for local errands might be worthwhile, too. There 
are no such vans available at the moment (or even large SUVs aside from 
Tesla X, which is too expensive). The closest would be Phil's Promaster 
conversions, but they are too large for my needs and (I think) not quite 
enough range.


Peri

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-- Original Message --
From: "Lee Hart via EV" 
To: "Peri Hartman via EV" 
Cc: "Lee Hart" 
Sent: 25-Mar-21 10:13:50 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)


Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

Our 2011 Leaf has about 35-50 mile range, depending on weather. That's pretty 
minimal, I know, but completely adequate for everything in the city and even a 
bit further. Depends where you live. (Still, I want to replace it, but - you've 
seen my other posts - it's not so easy to find something that will replace both 
our cars with one.)


We have a 2013 Leaf with about 35K miles on it. So far, no noticeable 
degradation in range. There must be some, but it can still do 80 miles on a 
charge in warm weather.

There may be extenuating circumstances. I'm an old hand at driving EVs, and 
drive like an old man (I *am* an old man)! We live in a small town, so trips 
are short and we've never stressed its range. We don't get hot weather, so heat 
degradation should be minimal. And we normally charge to 80% (the 2013 gives us 
that option).

Peri, have you looked into what it would cost to replace your Leaf's battery 
with a newer one?

Lee

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Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

[jamie via EV]

Bob, who and where is the tech who can upgrade an older leaf to a 62kWh 
pack?


Thanks,
 -Jamie


On 3/25/21 8:53 AM, Bob Bath via EV wrote:

My 2013 has identical stats at 44k miles, 80% capacity bars.

I’m excited to transport it to a tech 250 miles away who will put a 62 kWh pack 
from a totaled LEAF into mine.

Sincerely,
Bob Bath

Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 55 y.o. 
vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not 
cluelessness.



On Mar 25, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Peri Hartman via EV  wrote:

Our 2011 Leaf has about 35-50 mile range, depending on weather. That's pretty 
minimal, I know, but completely adequate for everything in the city and even a 
bit further. Depends where you live. (Still, I want to replace it, but - you've 
seen my other posts - it's not so easy to find something that will replace both 
our cars with one.)

Peri

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-- Original Message --
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To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: "Willie" 
Sent: 25-Mar-21 6:56:51 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh





On 3/25/21 8:37 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote:


On 3/25/21 8:16 AM, Willie via EV wrote:

  Your car has a battery that may last 200k miles. Compare that to a Leaf with 
battery life as low as 20k miles.


You are comparing maximum possible life to minimum possible life. Doesn't seem 
very fair to the Leaf.

My Leaf has 6 years and 50k miles on it with 80% of the new range/capacity 
remaining.


My 2011 Leaf became useless to me before 25k miles when it's range was reduced to 
~60 miles.  My 2013 Tesla, at ~150k miles, has about 225 miles left of it's 
original 265.  It is very near as useful as it was new.  It can still go 
essentially anywhere in the country following a chain of SuperChargers spaced at 
<150 miles.  I believe 3/Ys have longer lived batteries than early Ss.  We 
won't know for sure for a few years, but I think 200k miles is a very reasonable 
expectation.

Congratulations on your very good Leaf battery luck!  Though I'm not sure how 
useful 80% of a small Leaf battery is.




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Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

[Lee Hart via EV]

Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Our 2011 Leaf has about 35-50 mile range, depending on weather. That's 
pretty minimal, I know, but completely adequate for everything in the 
city and even a bit further. Depends where you live. (Still, I want to 
replace it, but - you've seen my other posts - it's not so easy to find 
something that will replace both our cars with one.)


We have a 2013 Leaf with about 35K miles on it. So far, no noticeable 
degradation in range. There must be some, but it can still do 80 miles 
on a charge in warm weather.


There may be extenuating circumstances. I'm an old hand at driving EVs, 
and drive like an old man (I *am* an old man)! We live in a small town, 
so trips are short and we've never stressed its range. We don't get hot 
weather, so heat degradation should be minimal. And we normally charge 
to 80% (the 2013 gives us that option).


Peri, have you looked into what it would cost to replace your Leaf's 
battery with a newer one?


Lee

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Re: [EVDL] Ps, wattage draw? EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Mark Hanson via EV]

Thanks Phil for the info. 
Good to know.  I’ll just set the guessometer to kWh and see what it does over 
time.  
Best regards 
Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2021, at 12:45 PM, (-Phil-)  wrote:


It's too variable to give a fixed number.  It depends on a lot of factors, such 
as ambient temperature.

I just set my charge limit to 80% and leave it plugged in.  It will top off 
itself automatically, and in the scheme of things (compared to all the 
electronics in my house sucking phantom amps) it's not a big deal to me.  I 
have excess PV, so the sun is taking care of it.

The humming you are hearing is the glycol pumps.  Anytime the contactors close, 
the cooling system circulates a tiny amount of coolant to keep the pack 
temperatures even and provide cooling for the PCS (Power Conversion System) 
which also incorporates the DC-DC that keeps the 12v system going.

Yeah the other EVs don't do this, but they also don't have packs that last as 
long, or all the cool features.



> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 6:33 AM Mark Hanson  wrote:
> Ps. Do you know how many watts the humming ghost load is and how many watts 
> it’s using in sentry mode?
> Best regards
> Mark
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Mark Hanson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks a bunch Phil
> That’s good to know.  Probably don’t need sentry mode out in the boonies.  Is 
> it easy to disable? I assume menu then security , something like that. 
> Best regards
> Mark
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 2:17 AM, (-Phil-)  wrote:
> 
> 
> The only way to stop a Tesla from using some small amount per day is to 
> disconnect the 12v.  Welcome to a connected car!
> 
> If you disable sentry mode completely you can get the phantom drain pretty 
> low.
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 6:45 PM mark hanson via EV  wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage for
>> hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way to
>> turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
>> silent when parked.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Also Dave put my trailer wiring for the Bolt EV on www.EVDL.org/lib/mh .  I
>> dug into the Tesla-Y wire harness tonight behind tail lights - so I'll have
>> one for the Tesla-Y soon using similar diodes.  Must have LEDs on your
>> trailer.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Have a renewable energy day,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark E. Hanson
>> 
>> 184 Vista Lane
>> 
>> Fincastle, VA 24090
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery)
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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Re: [EVDL] Ps, wattage draw? EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[(-Phil-) via EV]

It's too variable to give a fixed number.  It depends on a lot of factors,
such as ambient temperature.

I just set my charge limit to 80% and leave it plugged in.  It will top off
itself automatically, and in the scheme of things (compared to all the
electronics in my house sucking phantom amps) it's not a big deal to me.  I
have excess PV, so the sun is taking care of it.

The humming you are hearing is the glycol pumps.  Anytime the contactors
close, the cooling system circulates a tiny amount of coolant to keep the
pack temperatures even and provide cooling for the PCS (Power Conversion
System) which also incorporates the DC-DC that keeps the 12v system going.

Yeah the other EVs don't do this, but they also don't have packs that last
as long, or all the cool features.



On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 6:33 AM Mark Hanson  wrote:

> Ps. Do you know how many watts the humming ghost load is and how many
> watts it’s using in sentry mode?
> Best regards
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Mark Hanson  wrote:
>
> Thanks a bunch Phil
> That’s good to know.  Probably don’t need sentry mode out in the boonies.
> Is it easy to disable? I assume menu then security , something like that.
> Best regards
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 2:17 AM, (-Phil-)  wrote:
>
> 
> The only way to stop a Tesla from using some small amount per day is to
> disconnect the 12v.  Welcome to a connected car!
>
> If you disable sentry mode completely you can get the phantom drain pretty
> low.
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 6:45 PM mark hanson via EV 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage
>> for
>> hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way
>> to
>> turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
>> silent when parked.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also Dave put my trailer wiring for the Bolt EV on www.EVDL.org/lib/mh
>> .  I
>> dug into the Tesla-Y wire harness tonight behind tail lights - so I'll
>> have
>> one for the Tesla-Y soon using similar diodes.  Must have LEDs on your
>> trailer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a renewable energy day,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark E. Hanson
>>
>> 184 Vista Lane
>>
>> Fincastle, VA 24090
>>
>> 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh
>>
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>>
>>
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>> 75b8d/signature
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla releases service manuals, diagnostic tools, more for free - Electrek

[Collin Kidder via EV]

The story is in error. Tesla didn't actually do that on purpose and
nearly immediately pulled the plug once green told everyone about it.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:27 AM Mark Hanson via EV  wrote:
>
> Looks like Tesla is being forced into releasing service info from a law 
> passed in Massachusetts in December.
> https://electrek.co/2020/12/04/tesla-releases-service-manuals-diagnostic-tools-more-free/
> Stay charged
> Mark
>
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Peter Eckhoff via EV]

Hello Mark,

My Model 3 does the same thing.  I am told that it is being done to
condition the batteries.  I notice on days when the temperature is
above 90 degrees and after a bit of time, the pump(s) will turn on to
cool the pack.  The same thing happens when temps go below freezing(?)
as the batteries should be kept warmer.  Also, when approaching a
Supercharger, the pack will go into a preconditioning mode so
recharging goes faster.

>From what I have read, it's all part of a positive battery management
program to prolong the life of the pack and to keep the pack healthy.
Is it wasteful? Yes/no, it depends.

Peter


On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:21 PM mark hanson via EV  wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage for
> hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way to
> turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
> silent when parked.
>
>
>
> Also Dave put my trailer wiring for the Bolt EV on www.EVDL.org/lib/mh .  I
> dug into the Tesla-Y wire harness tonight behind tail lights - so I'll have
> one for the Tesla-Y soon using similar diodes.  Must have LEDs on your
> trailer.
>
>
>
> Have a renewable energy day,
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[EVDL] Tesla Sentry Mode Energy Consumption Test By Bjørn Nyland: Video

[Mark Hanson via EV]

Looks like sentry mode is only a 52W difference, the main ghost loads are the 
whirring fans/pumps 263W!
https://insideevs.com/news/345816/tesla-sentry-mode-energy-consumption-test-by-bjoern-nyland-video/
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

[Bob Bath via EV]

My 2013 has identical stats at 44k miles, 80% capacity bars. 

I’m excited to transport it to a tech 250 miles away who will put a 62 kWh pack 
from a totaled LEAF into mine. 

Sincerely, 
Bob Bath

Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 55 y.o. 
vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not 
cluelessness. 


> On Mar 25, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Peri Hartman via EV  wrote:
> 
> Our 2011 Leaf has about 35-50 mile range, depending on weather. That's 
> pretty minimal, I know, but completely adequate for everything in the city 
> and even a bit further. Depends where you live. (Still, I want to replace it, 
> but - you've seen my other posts - it's not so easy to find something that 
> will replace both our cars with one.)
> 
> Peri
> 
> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Willie via EV" 
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Cc: "Willie" 
> Sent: 25-Mar-21 6:56:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting 
> kwh
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/25/21 8:37 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/25/21 8:16 AM, Willie via EV wrote:
  Your car has a battery that may last 200k miles. Compare that to a Leaf 
 with battery life as low as 20k miles.
>>> 
>>> You are comparing maximum possible life to minimum possible life. Doesn't 
>>> seem very fair to the Leaf.
>>> 
>>> My Leaf has 6 years and 50k miles on it with 80% of the new range/capacity 
>>> remaining.
>> 
>> My 2011 Leaf became useless to me before 25k miles when it's range was 
>> reduced to ~60 miles.  My 2013 Tesla, at ~150k miles, has about 225 miles 
>> left of it's original 265.  It is very near as useful as it was new.  It can 
>> still go essentially anywhere in the country following a chain of 
>> SuperChargers spaced at <150 miles.  I believe 3/Ys have longer lived 
>> batteries than early Ss.  We won't know for sure for a few years, but I 
>> think 200k miles is a very reasonable expectation.
>> 
>> Congratulations on your very good Leaf battery luck!  Though I'm not sure 
>> how useful 80% of a small Leaf battery is.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf range (Tesla-Y constant humming)

[Peri Hartman via EV]

Our 2011 Leaf has about 35-50 mile range, depending on weather. That's 
pretty minimal, I know, but completely adequate for everything in the 
city and even a bit further. Depends where you live. (Still, I want to 
replace it, but - you've seen my other posts - it's not so easy to find 
something that will replace both our cars with one.)


Peri

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Sent: 25-Mar-21 6:56:51 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, 
wasting kwh





On 3/25/21 8:37 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote:



On 3/25/21 8:16 AM, Willie via EV wrote:

  Your car has a battery that may last 200k miles. Compare that to a Leaf with 
battery life as low as 20k miles.


You are comparing maximum possible life to minimum possible life. Doesn't seem 
very fair to the Leaf.

My Leaf has 6 years and 50k miles on it with 80% of the new range/capacity 
remaining.


My 2011 Leaf became useless to me before 25k miles when it's range was reduced to 
~60 miles.  My 2013 Tesla, at ~150k miles, has about 225 miles left of it's 
original 265.  It is very near as useful as it was new.  It can still go 
essentially anywhere in the country following a chain of SuperChargers spaced at 
<150 miles.  I believe 3/Ys have longer lived batteries than early Ss.  We 
won't know for sure for a few years, but I think 200k miles is a very reasonable 
expectation.

Congratulations on your very good Leaf battery luck!  Though I'm not sure how 
useful 80% of a small Leaf battery is.




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[EVDL] Tesla releases service manuals, diagnostic tools, more for free - Electrek

[Mark Hanson via EV]

Looks like Tesla is being forced into releasing service info from a law passed 
in Massachusetts in December.  
https://electrek.co/2020/12/04/tesla-releases-service-manuals-diagnostic-tools-more-free/
Stay charged 
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[EVDL] Tesla Y fluids etc access

[Mark Hanson via EV]

Hi folks 
When I open the frunk on the Tesla Y I just see A window washer Cap.  How do 
you access the brake fluid cap, coolant reservoirs and other maintenance items?
Does anyone know where to get a shop manual or service manual on the Y?   The 
dealer said they could get one, then vaporized after the sale   Best regards 
Mark 

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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Willie via EV]

On 3/25/21 8:37 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote:



On 3/25/21 8:16 AM, Willie via EV wrote:
  Your car has a battery that may last 200k miles. Compare that to a 
Leaf with battery life as low as 20k miles.


You are comparing maximum possible life to minimum possible life. 
Doesn't seem very fair to the Leaf.


My Leaf has 6 years and 50k miles on it with 80% of the new 
range/capacity remaining.


My 2011 Leaf became useless to me before 25k miles when it's range was 
reduced to ~60 miles.  My 2013 Tesla, at ~150k miles, has about 225 
miles left of it's original 265.  It is very near as useful as it was 
new.  It can still go essentially anywhere in the country following a 
chain of SuperChargers spaced at <150 miles.  I believe 3/Ys have longer 
lived batteries than early Ss.  We won't know for sure for a few years, 
but I think 200k miles is a very reasonable expectation.


Congratulations on your very good Leaf battery luck!  Though I'm not 
sure how useful 80% of a small Leaf battery is.



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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Jay Summet via EV]

On 3/25/21 8:16 AM, Willie via EV wrote:
  Your car has a battery that may last 200k miles. 
Compare that to a Leaf with battery life as low as 20k miles.


You are comparing maximum possible life to minimum possible life. 
Doesn't seem very fair to the Leaf.


My Leaf has 6 years and 50k miles on it with 80% of the new 
range/capacity remaining.


Jay
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[EVDL] Ps, wattage draw? EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Mark Hanson via EV]

Ps. Do you know how many watts the humming ghost load is and how many watts 
it’s using in sentry mode?
Best regards
Mark

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On Mar 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Mark Hanson  wrote:

Thanks a bunch Phil
That’s good to know.  Probably don’t need sentry mode out in the boonies.  Is 
it easy to disable? I assume menu then security , something like that. 
Best regards
Mark

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On Mar 25, 2021, at 2:17 AM, (-Phil-)  wrote:


The only way to stop a Tesla from using some small amount per day is to 
disconnect the 12v.  Welcome to a connected car!

If you disable sentry mode completely you can get the phantom drain pretty low.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 6:45 PM mark hanson via EV  wrote:
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> 
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> My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage for
> hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way to
> turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Steves via EV]

Could be it was trying to communicate with the coil!

-Steve

> On Mar 25, 2021, at 9:17 AM, Mark Hanson via EV  wrote:
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> Thanks Paul/Phil 
> When I let it out of the garage this morning it was quiet but all last night 
> when I was working in the garage (about 4 hours building a Tesla Coil) the 
> Tesla was humming.  I’ll turn off sentry mode (I assume it’s in security 
> directory). 
> Best regards
> Mark
> 
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> On Mar 25, 2021, at 7:29 AM, paul dove  wrote:
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> 
> Be sure to turn off sentry mode
> 
> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 8:45:18 PM CDT, mark hanson via EV 
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> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> 
> 
> My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage for
> hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way to
> turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
> silent when parked.
> 
> 
> 
> Also Dave put my trailer wiring for the Bolt EV on www.EVDL.org/lib/mh .  I
> dug into the Tesla-Y wire harness tonight behind tail lights - so I'll have
> one for the Tesla-Y soon using similar diodes.  Must have LEDs on your
> trailer.
> 
> 
> 
> Have a renewable energy day,
> 
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> 
> Mark
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Mark Hanson via EV]

Thanks Paul/Phil 
When I let it out of the garage this morning it was quiet but all last night 
when I was working in the garage (about 4 hours building a Tesla Coil) the 
Tesla was humming.  I’ll turn off sentry mode (I assume it’s in security 
directory). 
Best regards
Mark

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On Mar 25, 2021, at 7:29 AM, paul dove  wrote:


Be sure to turn off sentry mode

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 8:45:18 PM CDT, mark hanson via EV 
 wrote:


Hi Folks,



My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage for
hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way to
turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
silent when parked.



Also Dave put my trailer wiring for the Bolt EV on www.EVDL.org/lib/mh .  I
dug into the Tesla-Y wire harness tonight behind tail lights - so I'll have
one for the Tesla-Y soon using similar diodes.  Must have LEDs on your
trailer.



Have a renewable energy day,



Mark



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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[Willie via EV]

On 3/24/21 8:45 PM, mark hanson via EV wrote:

Hi Folks,

  


My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage for
hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way to
turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
silent when parked.


I imagine that the car is trying to take care of itself.  I advise not 
worrying about it.  Your car has a battery that may last 200k miles. 
Compare that to a Leaf with battery life as low as 20k miles.


You can monitor "vampire" range reduction which should be well under 10 
miles/day.

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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-Y constant humming when parked in garage, wasting kwh

[paul dove via EV]

 Be sure to turn off sentry mode

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 8:45:18 PM CDT, mark hanson via EV 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Folks,

 

My Tesla-Y is constantly humming (fans/pumps?) when parked in the garage for
hours.  I heard it loses 1% daily, seems wasteful to me.  Is there a way to
turn power off to things when parked?  My Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are
silent when parked.

 

Also Dave put my trailer wiring for the Bolt EV on www.EVDL.org/lib/mh .  I
dug into the Tesla-Y wire harness tonight behind tail lights - so I'll have
one for the Tesla-Y soon using similar diodes.  Must have LEDs on your
trailer.

 

Have a renewable energy day,

 

Mark

 

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