RE: OWA 5.5 Access

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

Microsoft's version of ambiguity is as follows:

If an alias is a substring of another alias, then it is ambiguous.

For example, you have users with aliases bill and billg.  User bill is
ambiguous.  User bill should log into OWA using his SMTP address.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:43 PM
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Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 Access


Ambiguous aliases.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bare, Ronald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:17 PM
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> Subject: OWA 5.5 Access
>
>
> Can someone explain why the following happens sometimes with
> OWA on 5.5?
>
> For a new account OWA access fails when we use the Exchange
> Alias. However, the account is accessible if we use the
> user's full name, that is "Firstname Lastname" in place of the ALIAS?

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RE: MS Outlook Q.

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

Please don't cross-post.

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Subject: MS Outlook Q.




Hi all,

How do I set a mail rule within MS O to send/reply mail in a specific format
to individual contacts in the GAL from the users machine?
I used to know how to do it but now have completely forgotten..

Thanks in advance
E.


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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! <>

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

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Tom,

Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

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Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper English.  Viri
is proper Latin.

> -Original Message-
> From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! <>

> In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
> In English, the multiple is Viruses.
>
> So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
>
> -Original Message-
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>
>
> Actually I think it is Virii
>
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>
>
> 
>
> Get the virus's what?
>
> Oh, you mean viruses.
>
> 
>
> :-)


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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Peter Johnson

Ouch Ed. I've always taken Mr Ellison's pronouncements with a salt shaker!!!

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 14 November 2001 09:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

Sounds like PROFS to me.

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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


"Why have hundreds of Exchange servers when you can have one or two
Oracle databases?" 

Could you imagine the size of pipes you would need to support this
configuration? There are reasons to have servers all over. If presented
in a bit better way, with much less mud. This might be a product I would
look at. But as is I don't plan on bothering. Additionally from the
looks of it, it is a core Email server that is it, exchange is and will
become so much more then that.

Unbreakable, Virus proof.. Can you say miracle cure? I got some nice
land in Florida if anybody wants it, Dirt cheap.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


And it costs 50K for 10 users and has to run on a 4 way Sun box.

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Yeah with an Oracle backend. I would like to see someone who struggles
with exchange even begin to administer this. 

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/2003/tc/ellison_aims_for_microsoft_s
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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

Sounds like PROFS to me.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


"Why have hundreds of Exchange servers when you can have one or two
Oracle databases?" 

Could you imagine the size of pipes you would need to support this
configuration? There are reasons to have servers all over. If presented
in a bit better way, with much less mud. This might be a product I would
look at. But as is I don't plan on bothering. Additionally from the
looks of it, it is a core Email server that is it, exchange is and will
become so much more then that.

Unbreakable, Virus proof.. Can you say miracle cure? I got some nice
land in Florida if anybody wants it, Dirt cheap.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


And it costs 50K for 10 users and has to run on a 4 way Sun box.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:28 AM
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Yeah with an Oracle backend. I would like to see someone who struggles
with exchange even begin to administer this. 

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/2003/tc/ellison_aims_for_microsoft_s
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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

Shall I go home now, boss?

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:29 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


But Roger, for your $80,000 you get: a system that has never, ever crashed
and never will; the most secure server in the world, it's never been hacked
or infected by a virus; and a machine autographed picture of Larry shaking
hands with Elvis Smitticamp.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


>From http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6276284.html

"But after Thursday's price changes, the enterprise edition of the 9i
database will cost a uniform $40,000 per processor, while the standard
edition will cost $15,000 per processor. In the next few days, Oracle will
release to existing customers a plan to convert to the new pricing scheme,
Ellison said."

WOW... For my dual processor Exchange box, thats $80,000... Just for the
friggin database that hosts it!

Exchange 5.5 Enterprise cost me what, about $3000?

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Atlanta, GA
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> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:47 AM
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> Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
> 
> 
> I've requested pricing for my 30 users I'm really
> interested to see how
> much money I save over my current implementation. I wanna 
> ride the Oracle
> wave baby! Screw Microsoft.
> 
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
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> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:17 AM
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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

That would be Schmiedekamp.  And, unlike Weird Larry, he's a real person.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:29 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


But Roger, for your $80,000 you get: a system that has never, ever crashed
and never will; the most secure server in the world, it's never been hacked
or infected by a virus; and a machine autographed picture of Larry shaking
hands with Elvis Smitticamp.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


>From http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6276284.html

"But after Thursday's price changes, the enterprise edition of the 9i
database will cost a uniform $40,000 per processor, while the standard
edition will cost $15,000 per processor. In the next few days, Oracle will
release to existing customers a plan to convert to the new pricing scheme,
Ellison said."

WOW... For my dual processor Exchange box, thats $80,000... Just for the
friggin database that hosts it!

Exchange 5.5 Enterprise cost me what, about $3000?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
> 
> 
> I've requested pricing for my 30 users I'm really
> interested to see how
> much money I save over my current implementation. I wanna 
> ride the Oracle
> wave baby! Screw Microsoft.
> 
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:17 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/2003/tc/ellison_aims_for_m
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> > ail_crown_1.html
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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

Written in Java.  Want a disclaimer?  Get a bean!

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


Whatever it costs, it's going to be more cost effective than products from
the Great Satan[tm]. Larry wouldn't lead me wrong, you guys quit dissin on
my hero. Damn Microsoft apologists, open your eyes and SEE THE FUTURE that
is Oracle9i mail.


> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:10 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
> 
> 
> Make sure you ask how much more the clustering support costs...
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> http://www.peregrine.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
> > 
> > 
> > I've requested pricing for my 30 users I'm really
> > interested to see how
> > much money I save over my current implementation. I wanna 
> > ride the Oracle
> > wave baby! Screw Microsoft.
> > 
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:17 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/2003/tc/ellison_aims_for_m
> > > icrosoft_s_e-m
> > > ail_crown_1.html
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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

The Latin plural would be viri.  The English plural would be viruses.
Either can be considered correct; it is considered correct to use the
English plural for a Latin term that's been brought into English usage.
Virii, however, would be incorrect in either language.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:57 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


Actually I think it is Virii

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Neil Hobson
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:57 AM
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Get the virus's what?

Oh, you mean viruses.



:-)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: 13 November 2001 15:45
Posted To: Exchange Mailing List
Conversation: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


Exchange is pretty much virus proof right now. It is the clients that
get the virus's

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


"Why have hundreds of Exchange servers when you can have one or two
Oracle databases?"

Could you imagine the size of pipes you would need to support this
configuration? There are reasons to have servers all over. If presented
in a bit better way, with much less mud. This might be a product I would
look at. But as is I don't plan on bothering. Additionally from the
looks of it, it is a core Email server that is it, exchange is and will
become so much more then that.

Unbreakable, Virus proof.. Can you say miracle cure? I got some nice
land in Florida if anybody wants it, Dirt cheap.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


And it costs 50K for 10 users and has to run on a 4 way Sun box.

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Yeah with an Oracle backend. I would like to see someone who struggles
with exchange even begin to administer this.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

Ask for Larry to fly you around in his private jet as an inducement to buy.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
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I've requested pricing for my 30 users I'm really interested to see how
much money I save over my current implementation. I wanna ride the Oracle
wave baby! Screw Microsoft.

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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Crowley

This bring to mind the presentation I saw at an EMA conference maybe five
years ago.  Marc Andreesen (remember him?) touting the superiority of his
employer's "open standard" e-mail system over Microsoft's "legacy" e-mail
system.

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RE: Issue with IMS and multiple messages

2001-11-13 Thread Webb, Andy

Yes, Exchange does try to prevent a user receiving multiple copies of the
same message.  Take for example a user who is on two separate distribution
lists which are included in the address fields of a message.  Depending on
where those DLs are expanded, there may be two messages routed to the user.
This is picked up by tracking the sender message Id and filtered.

Why is your script generating a messageID?  Why not just leave that header
out and let the receiving system supply a unique ID.

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Subject: Issue with IMS and multiple messages


We have a script sending an SMTP message to our IMS ten times.  Each of the
ten messages is given its own Exchange message ID (as noted in the tracking
logs) and shown to be delivered to the one mailbox that all ten are for.
However only one message actually shows up.  The unique thing here is that
the originator's message ID is the same for all ten messages
(intentionally).  The tracking logs show ten messages being accepted and
even routed to other servers successfully, and even delivered.  But I think
that since the originator's message ID is the same for all ten messages only
the first of the ten is actually delivered.  Does store (or the mta) have
some sort of SMTP message ID cache to keep track of messages received?  Keep
in mind that the Exchange message IDs are unique, which means that Exchange
is actually looking inside the message to compare host message IDs.  And it
is not the IMS doing the comparing because the logs show the messages being
routed to other servers on its way to the destination server mailbox.  We
changed the script to modify the original message's host ID and the new one
appeared in the Inbox.  Hmm.  So by deduction I have concluded that
Exchange has some sort of built in message looping/duplication feature to
keep what it thinks as the same message from being delivered multiple times
because of failed TCP/SMTP connections or something where the receiver
things all is well, but the sender doesn't think the message was delivered
successfully so it will try again.  What do you all think?

Scott.

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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Mihai Iugan

Pretty scaring , isn't it? I just tried to download the installation kit and
see what is it about, went through the well known registration procedure and
finally reached  the download page .
There are few notes at the end of the page , last one saying "Note: This
iSetup update fixes bug # 1847051..."

I had to give up, guess why...

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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
> I was reading about the Email package Oracle offers and it really doesnt
> look like much more than a standard POP3/IMAP server that has a "new
> feature" called web calendaring.

   I suppose this Oracle thing might appeal to someone like Earthlink, with
8 kabillion mailboxes that simply get POP'ed out constantly.  That is a
mighty niche market though, and not one Exchange is targeted at anyway.

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RE: Conference Room Auto Accept

2001-11-13 Thread Andrew Chan

What ever you do.  Do NOT install Outlook on the Exchange server.  There
has been known problems with that configuration.  Because Exchange
Server uses a different MAPI dll than Outlook.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:57 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: Conference Room Auto Accept
Subject: RE: Conference Room Auto Accept


If you're using OL2000 (or later) all you need to do is create a profile
that uses the Conference Room Mailbox, log in as the account that is the
owner of that mailbox (I assume Exchange 5.5?), start Outlook with that
Conference Room profile, go to Tools | Options | Calendar Options and
you should find a "Resource Scheduling" button (if I recall correctly).
Click it and you'll get a dialog box with options to automatically
accept meetings, decline conflicting meetings, etc.

You'll also need to go to the Calendar folder and give the users you
want to be able to schedule the conference room permissions to the
folder - they need to be able to add, edit and delete at least their own
items (they don't need to be able to view the folder).

When you're done, close Outlook and you should never need to log in or
set any delegates for conference room scheduling again.  You don't need
to keep any workstations running or logged in just to accept meeting
requests - the server will handle all of it.

I'm typing this from memory, so I may have missed a step or something
there, but that's basically what you need to do and it should be fairly
easy for you.

Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:54 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Conference Room Auto Accept
> 
> 
> Hmmm... that's not working for me. Maybe because I'm using a
> delegate? Well, I'll turn off delegation and play some more. 
> If I can get this working, i.e. not having to login with OL2k 
> - I can just move the profile to a server. Anyone run 
> Outlook2k on the exchange server? Good idea? Bad idea? Thx
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:02 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Conference Room Auto Accept
> 
> 
> That's not correct.  You don't have to be logged in with
> outlook open if it's >= Outlook 2000, IIRCC.
> 
> Andrew,
> MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:53 PM
> Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
> Conversation: Conference Room Auto Accept
> Subject: Conference Room Auto Accept
> 
> 
> Since there seem to be so many knowledgeable of this topic,
> thought I'd toss out my questions as well:
> 
> In our conference room mail box profile is set a delegate. The 
> delegates Outlook is always open (as I understand is required). The 
> theory being this one delegate can Auto Accept for multiple conference

> rooms.
> 
> This Outlook is running on a workstation, which must be
> restarted weekly (due to other software running). But I must 
> login on this workstation for Outlook to open, and the 
> delegate to start auto-accepting.
> 
> I'd like to get to a point where Outlook starts with the
> delegates profile, even if I haven't logged in yet. Anyone 
> know if Outlook can be setup to run as a service (using the 
> srvany tool)? This would then add another level of security, 
> as the delegates W2k workstation is in an uncontrolled area.
> 
> Basically, if the system reboots, either from a scheduled
> shutdown or power outage - I'd like the AutoAccept to start 
> working as soon as power came back on - without human intervention.
> 
> Suggestions welcome.
> 
> K
> 
> 
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RE: Conference Room Auto Accept

2001-11-13 Thread Ben Schorr

If you're using OL2000 (or later) all you need to do is create a profile
that uses the Conference Room Mailbox, log in as the account that is the
owner of that mailbox (I assume Exchange 5.5?), start Outlook with that
Conference Room profile, go to Tools | Options | Calendar Options and you
should find a "Resource Scheduling" button (if I recall correctly).  Click
it and you'll get a dialog box with options to automatically accept
meetings, decline conflicting meetings, etc.

You'll also need to go to the Calendar folder and give the users you want to
be able to schedule the conference room permissions to the folder - they
need to be able to add, edit and delete at least their own items (they don't
need to be able to view the folder).

When you're done, close Outlook and you should never need to log in or set
any delegates for conference room scheduling again.  You don't need to keep
any workstations running or logged in just to accept meeting requests - the
server will handle all of it.

I'm typing this from memory, so I may have missed a step or something there,
but that's basically what you need to do and it should be fairly easy for
you.

Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:54 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Conference Room Auto Accept
> 
> 
> Hmmm... that's not working for me. Maybe because I'm using a 
> delegate? Well, I'll turn off delegation and play some more. 
> If I can get this working, i.e. not having to login with OL2k 
> - I can just move the profile to a server. Anyone run 
> Outlook2k on the exchange server? Good idea? Bad idea? Thx
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:02 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Conference Room Auto Accept
> 
> 
> That's not correct.  You don't have to be logged in with 
> outlook open if it's >= Outlook 2000, IIRCC.
> 
> Andrew,
> MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:53 PM
> Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
> Conversation: Conference Room Auto Accept
> Subject: Conference Room Auto Accept
> 
> 
> Since there seem to be so many knowledgeable of this topic, 
> thought I'd toss out my questions as well:
> 
> In our conference room mail box profile is set a delegate.
> The delegates Outlook is always open (as I understand is 
> required). The theory being this one delegate can Auto Accept 
> for multiple conference rooms.
> 
> This Outlook is running on a workstation, which must be 
> restarted weekly (due to other software running). But I must 
> login on this workstation for Outlook to open, and the 
> delegate to start auto-accepting.
> 
> I'd like to get to a point where Outlook starts with the 
> delegates profile, even if I haven't logged in yet. Anyone 
> know if Outlook can be setup to run as a service (using the 
> srvany tool)? This would then add another level of security, 
> as the delegates W2k workstation is in an uncontrolled area.
> 
> Basically, if the system reboots, either from a scheduled 
> shutdown or power outage - I'd like the AutoAccept to start 
> working as soon as power came back on - without human intervention.
> 
> Suggestions welcome.
> 
> K
> 
> 
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RE: Conference Room Auto Accept

2001-11-13 Thread Kim Kruse

Hmmm... that's not working for me. Maybe because I'm using a delegate?
Well, I'll turn off delegation and play some more.
If I can get this working, i.e. not having to login with OL2k - I can just
move the profile to a server.
Anyone run Outlook2k on the exchange server?
Good idea? Bad idea?
Thx

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conference Room Auto Accept


That's not correct.  You don't have to be logged in with outlook open if
it's >= Outlook 2000, IIRCC.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Kim Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:53 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: Conference Room Auto Accept
Subject: Conference Room Auto Accept


Since there seem to be so many knowledgeable of this topic, thought I'd
toss out my questions as well:

In our conference room mail box profile is set a delegate.
The delegates Outlook is always open (as I understand is required). The
theory being this one delegate can Auto Accept for multiple conference
rooms.

This Outlook is running on a workstation, which must be restarted weekly
(due to other software running). But I must login on this workstation
for Outlook to open, and the delegate to start auto-accepting.

I'd like to get to a point where Outlook starts with the delegates
profile, even if I haven't logged in yet. Anyone know if Outlook can be
setup to run as a service (using the srvany tool)? This would then add
another level of security, as the delegates W2k workstation is in an
uncontrolled area.

Basically, if the system reboots, either from a scheduled shutdown or
power outage - I'd like the AutoAccept to start working as soon as power
came back on - without human intervention.

Suggestions welcome.

K



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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Michael L. Callahan

Sure he wouldif you've ever used Oracle ERP you'd be right at home.
And think of the nap time you could get in waiting for the web interface
to come up and actually become usable.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


Liar! Larry is God and you shall bow down before him... and show him
your national ID card. 

Course the actual feature set of this product has a bit worried..
http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/ias/docs/esfo.html I mean certainly
Larry's solution must be a more robust collaborative solution than
Exchange right? He wouldn't limit me to POP3/IMAP and a crappy web
interface would he?

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> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
> 
> 
> You need a 6 way sun box to run the backend on, 200,000$ for
> the box and about 50,000$ for the software, then of course 
> you need ArcservIT with the  oracle email agent. 
> 
> Ok I will stop laughing now and go back to work.. Thank I
> will be here all week..
> 
> Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
> 
> 
> I've requested pricing for my 30 users I'm really
> interested to see how much money I save over my current 
> implementation. I wanna ride the Oracle wave baby! Screw Microsoft.
> 
> Chris
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> Senior Sales Engineer
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> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Michael L. Callahan

This is reminiscent of Oracle's foray into the Supply Chain Management
sphere - a torrent of press releases slamming my company especially.
Funnywe don't see much of them anymore.  I predict a similar fizzle
here.

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From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!



http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/2003/tc/ellison_aims_for_microsoft_s
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Issue with IMS and multiple messages

2001-11-13 Thread Bueffel, Scott M - CNF

We have a script sending an SMTP message to our IMS ten times.  Each of the
ten messages is given its own Exchange message ID (as noted in the tracking
logs) and shown to be delivered to the one mailbox that all ten are for.
However only one message actually shows up.  The unique thing here is that
the originator's message ID is the same for all ten messages
(intentionally).  The tracking logs show ten messages being accepted and
even routed to other servers successfully, and even delivered.  But I think
that since the originator's message ID is the same for all ten messages only
the first of the ten is actually delivered.  Does store (or the mta) have
some sort of SMTP message ID cache to keep track of messages received?  Keep
in mind that the Exchange message IDs are unique, which means that Exchange
is actually looking inside the message to compare host message IDs.  And it
is not the IMS doing the comparing because the logs show the messages being
routed to other servers on its way to the destination server mailbox.  We
changed the script to modify the original message's host ID and the new one
appeared in the Inbox.  Hmm.  So by deduction I have concluded that
Exchange has some sort of built in message looping/duplication feature to
keep what it thinks as the same message from being delivered multiple times
because of failed TCP/SMTP connections or something where the receiver
things all is well, but the sender doesn't think the message was delivered
successfully so it will try again.  What do you all think?

Scott.

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RE: Conference Room Auto Accept

2001-11-13 Thread Andrew Chan

That's not correct.  You don't have to be logged in with outlook open if
it's >= Outlook 2000, IIRCC.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Kim Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:53 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: Conference Room Auto Accept
Subject: Conference Room Auto Accept


Since there seem to be so many knowledgeable of this topic, thought I'd
toss out my questions as well:

In our conference room mail box profile is set a delegate.
The delegates Outlook is always open (as I understand is required). The
theory being this one delegate can Auto Accept for multiple conference
rooms.

This Outlook is running on a workstation, which must be restarted weekly
(due to other software running). But I must login on this workstation
for Outlook to open, and the delegate to start auto-accepting.

I'd like to get to a point where Outlook starts with the delegates
profile, even if I haven't logged in yet. Anyone know if Outlook can be
setup to run as a service (using the srvany tool)? This would then add
another level of security, as the delegates W2k workstation is in an
uncontrolled area.

Basically, if the system reboots, either from a scheduled shutdown or
power outage - I'd like the AutoAccept to start working as soon as power
came back on - without human intervention.

Suggestions welcome.

K



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Conference Room Auto Accept

2001-11-13 Thread Kim Kruse

Since there seem to be so many knowledgeable of this topic, thought I'd toss
out my questions as well:

In our conference room mail box profile is set a delegate.
The delegates Outlook is always open (as I understand is required).
The theory being this one delegate can Auto Accept for multiple conference
rooms.

This Outlook is running on a workstation, which must be restarted weekly
(due to other software running).
But I must login on this workstation for Outlook to open, and the delegate
to start auto-accepting.

I'd like to get to a point where Outlook starts with the delegates profile,
even if I haven't logged in yet.
Anyone know if Outlook can be setup to run as a service (using the srvany
tool)?
This would then add another level of security, as the delegates W2k
workstation is in an uncontrolled area.

Basically, if the system reboots, either from a scheduled shutdown or power
outage - I'd like the AutoAccept to start working as soon as power came back
on - without human intervention.

Suggestions welcome.

K



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RE: OWA 5.5 Access

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Scharff

Ambiguous aliases.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bare, Ronald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA 5.5 Access
> 
> 
> Can someone explain why the following happens sometimes with 
> OWA on 5.5?
> 
> For a new account OWA access fails when we use the Exchange 
> Alias. However, the account is accessible if we use the 
> user's full name, that is "Firstname Lastname" in place of the ALIAS?

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Re: OWA 5.5 Access

2001-11-13 Thread Tony Hlabse

Double check the account

- Original Message -
From: "Bare, Ronald A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:17 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 Access


> Can someone explain why the following happens sometimes with OWA on 5.5?
>
> For a new account OWA access fails when we use the Exchange Alias.
However,
> the account is accessible if we use the user's full name, that is
"Firstname
> Lastname" in place of the ALIAS?
>
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RE: Search function in OWA?

2001-11-13 Thread Siegfried Weber

Since the Webcast already showed up I can imagine it will be released in
the near future.

But, as usual, there will not be an announcement when it will happen.
There might popup a late showstopper which will prevent it from shipping
etc...



> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Search function in OWA?
> 
> SP2 looks great. Does anybody know of an ETA for it?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Siegfried Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:31 PM
> Subject: RE: Search function in OWA?
> 
> 
> A bit more information about the version of Exchange Server you use
> would be nice.
> 
> Anyways, Exchange 2000 OWA will have this feature with SP2. See:
>
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/webcasts/wc110101/wcblurb11010
> 1.asp
> 
> (watch the line break)
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roberto Glavich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:18 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Search function in OWA?
> >
> > Is there an search function in OWA?
> > An search function for searching in all stored emails.
> >
> > /Roberto
> >
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Re: Search function in OWA?

2001-11-13 Thread Tony Hlabse

SP2 looks great. Does anybody know of an ETA for it?

- Original Message - 
From: "Siegfried Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: Search function in OWA?


A bit more information about the version of Exchange Server you use
would be nice.

Anyways, Exchange 2000 OWA will have this feature with SP2. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/webcasts/wc110101/wcblurb11010
1.asp

(watch the line break)



> -Original Message-
> From: Roberto Glavich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Search function in OWA?
> 
> Is there an search function in OWA?
> An search function for searching in all stored emails.
> 
> /Roberto
> 
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RE: Search function in OWA?

2001-11-13 Thread Siegfried Weber

A bit more information about the version of Exchange Server you use
would be nice.

Anyways, Exchange 2000 OWA will have this feature with SP2. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/webcasts/wc110101/wcblurb11010
1.asp

(watch the line break)



> -Original Message-
> From: Roberto Glavich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Search function in OWA?
> 
> Is there an search function in OWA?
> An search function for searching in all stored emails.
> 
> /Roberto
> 
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Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread mmnfc

Barry -

Thanks for the help!  I appreciate it.

Sincerely,
Mike Conner

Barry Patterson wrote:

> Here we go - from the Win98SE disk\tools\oldwin95\wms-fax.txt
>
> "WHAT IS WINDOWS MESSAGING?
> ===
> Windows Messaging is an update to Exchange that was originally shipped with
> Windows 95. Like Exchange, Windows Messaging enables the user to send and
> receive e-mail, faxes, and documents in message format by accessing a
> Microsoft Mail Postoffice Mailbox Account. Information Services that can be
> used with Windows Messaging include Microsoft Mail, Internet Mail, Microsoft
> Fax, and the Microsoft Network. Windows Messaging is a Full MAPI Client.
>
> WHAT IS MICROSOFT MAIL POSTOFFICE?
> ===
> Microsoft Mail Postoffice was included in Windows for Workgroups, Windows
> 95, OSR2 and OSR2.5. Microsoft Mail Postoffice provides a centralized
> location for Network Administrators or Small Office Administrators to create
> and maintain a Workgroup Postoffice.  The Administrator would create an
> account for each user within the Workgroup Postoffice.  This account would
> then provide users the ability to send or receive e-mail to or from other
> users within the company network. "
>
> Barry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> compatibility)
>
> Martin -
>
> Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we probably are using
> Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am ignorant enough to not know the
> difference.  I was under the impression that this was some sort of version
> of Exchange 5.0, but I may be wrong.
>
> Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If not, what do you
> recommend that I look at for upgrading the system?  We could all go to
> external e-mail accounts, but I would prefer to keep our inter-office mail
> internal if there is a simple way to do it.
>
> Again, thanks for your help.
>
> Martin Blackstone wrote:
>
> > Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > compatibility)
> >
> > I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply using
> > the version of Exchange that was buried on the Win98se disk.  We are
> > really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server and we
> > all send messages to each other and transfer files via attachment.  It
> > is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have here, it works great.
> >
> > The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server and are going
> > to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My question is
> > this:
> >
> > Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the Win98se disks
> > onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as we have in
> > the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different version of
> > Exchange Server?
> >
> > Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
> >
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Search function in OWA?

2001-11-13 Thread Roberto Glavich

Is there an search function in OWA?
An search function for searching in all stored emails.
 
/Roberto

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RE: Outlook File As

2001-11-13 Thread Tener, Richard

Lol


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook File As

Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.

1. Smile.
2. Contact bank.
3. Wire $10,000 to my numbered Swiss bank account.


Chris
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If you can't measure, you can't manage!


> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
>
> Chris can you make it for me and send it to me.  Would appreciate it.
>
> Thanks
> Rich
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
> Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.
>
> 1. Write a script in CDO
> 2. Assign it to a button
> 3. Click button.
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage!
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How To:
> >   Have Outlook 2000 File everything as last name, first
> > name, company without going to every single contact and
> changing it in
> > the file as box.  Is there a way to change this with one click of a
> > button for a public contact folder that contains contacts.
>
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RE: Outlook File As

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Scharff

Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.

1. Smile.
2. Contact bank.
3. Wire $10,000 to my numbered Swiss bank account.


Chris
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If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> 
> 
> Chris can you make it for me and send it to me.  Would appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks 
> Rich
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> 
> Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.
> 
> 1. Write a script in CDO
> 2. Assign it to a button
> 3. Click button.
> 
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How To:
> >   Have Outlook 2000 File everything as last name, first 
> > name, company without going to every single contact and 
> changing it in 
> > the file as box.  Is there a way to change this with one click of a 
> > button for a public contact folder that contains contacts.
> 
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Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread mmnfc

Martin -

My thoughts exactly.  Thanks for the help!

Sincerely,
Mike Conner

Martin Blackstone wrote:

> If what you have works, and the users like it, why change?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:00 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> compatibility)
>
> Martin -
>
> Thanks for the note.  I was playing around with installing it on a
> separate system and see how it would respond, but thought I would ask a
> few questions first.
>
> One last question if I may.  If this does not work, what do you
> recommend for a workgroup of our size?
>
> I greatly appreciate your help!
>
> Martin Blackstone wrote:
>
> > I don't know if it will run on W2K.
> > That is a really old product. MS doesn't support it anymore either.
> > I'm sure it is fine for 12 people. I have run it with 60 on a PC (with
>
> > a SCSI drive). My advise would be to either not mess with it at all,
> > or put it on a separate box.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > compatibility)
> >
> > Martin -
> >
> > Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we probably are
> > using Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am ignorant enough to not
> > know the difference.  I was under the impression that this was some
> > sort of version of Exchange 5.0, but I may be wrong.
> >
> > Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If not, what do
> > you recommend that I look at for upgrading the system?  We could all
> > go to external e-mail accounts, but I would prefer to keep our
> > inter-office mail internal if there is a simple way to do it.
> >
> > Again, thanks for your help.
> >
> > Martin Blackstone wrote:
> >
> > > Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > > compatibility)
> > >
> > > I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply
> > > using the version of Exchange that was buried on the Win98se disk.
> > > We
> >
> > > are really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server
> > > and we all send messages to each other and transfer files via
> > > attachment.  It is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have
> > > here, it works great.
> > >
> > > The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server and are
> > > going
> >
> > > to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My question
> > > is
> > > this:
> > >
> > > Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the Win98se
> > > disks
> >
> > > onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as we have
> > > in
> >
> > > the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different version of
>
> > > Exchange Server?
> > >
> > > Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
> > > Thanks!
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RE: Outlook File As

2001-11-13 Thread Tener, Richard

Chris can you make it for me and send it to me.  Would appreciate it.

Thanks 
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook File As

Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.

1. Write a script in CDO
2. Assign it to a button
3. Click button.

Chris
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> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Outlook File As
>
>
>
>
> How To:
>   Have Outlook 2000 File everything as last name,
> first name, company without going to every single contact and
> changing it in the file as box.  Is there a way to change
> this with one click of a button for a public contact folder
> that contains contacts.

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Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread mmnfc

Chris -

Thanks for your help!  I greatly appreciate it.

Onwards to a new bold frontier.  Good luck working around your dog's schedule!

Sincerely,
Mike Conner

Chris Scharff wrote:

> Um well, that really depends on what you need mail to do.
>
> On the light end... iMail from IPSwitch is an appropriate solution for some.
> Mercury mail has its fans and I'd be using mailsite for one of my personal
> domains if they'd give me a free copy.
>
> On the collaborative end... We used Exchange 5.5 with some success at my
> last gig for fewer than 20 users. I don't really know that much about it,
> but they seemed to like it. It's also running on my home server at the
> moment for my wife, son and dog. Damn dog has a lot of calendar data though.
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:07 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000
> > Pro compatibility)
> >
> >
> > Chris -
> >
> > Thanks for the input.  The search was most informative and it
> > is nice to know that I am not the only schmuck out there
> > wanting to try this.
> >
> > One more question if I may.  My workgroup is probably never
> > going to exceed 20 computers.  If this doesn't work, what do
> > you suggest that I move to?
> >
> > Thanks again for the help!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Mike Conner
> >
> > Chris Scharff wrote:
> >
> > > Um... Well, erm... Will it transfer? Yes. Is it supported? No.[1]
> > >
> > > Do a search at www.deja.com for WGPO and Windows 2000 and you might
> > > find some comments on the subject from the Outlook MVPs.
> > I've not kept
> > > up on their research in this area as WGPO and Outlook isn't really
> > > something I use.
> > >
> > > [1] Not supported on W2K and no longer supported in general.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > --
> > > Chris Scharff
> > > Senior Sales Engineer
> > > MessageOne
> > > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:38 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > > > compatibility)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Martin -
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we
> > probably are
> > > > using Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am ignorant
> > enough to not
> > > > know the difference.  I was under the impression that
> > this was some
> > > > sort of version of Exchange 5.0, but I may be wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If
> > not, what do
> > > > you recommend that I look at for upgrading the system?
> > We could all
> > > > go to external e-mail accounts, but I would prefer to keep our
> > > > inter-office mail internal if there is a simple way to do it.
> > > >
> > > > Again, thanks for your help.
> > > >
> > > > Martin Blackstone wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > > > > compatibility)
> > > > >
> > > > > I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my
> > business is simply
> > > > > using the version of Exchange that was buried on the
> > > > Win98se disk.  We
> > > > > are really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the
> > > > > server and we all send messages to each other and
> > transfer files
> > > > > via attachment.  It is simple, but for the 12 or so
> > folks that we
> > > > > have here, it works great.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server
> > > > and are going
> > > > > to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My
> > > > question is
> > > > > this:
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the
> > > > Win98se disks
> > > > > onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as
> > > > we have in
> > > > > the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different
> > > > version of
> > > > > Exchange Server?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly
> > > > appreciated. Thanks!
> > > > >
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RE: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread Martin Blackstone

If what you have works, and the users like it, why change?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
compatibility)


Martin -

Thanks for the note.  I was playing around with installing it on a
separate system and see how it would respond, but thought I would ask a
few questions first.

One last question if I may.  If this does not work, what do you
recommend for a workgroup of our size?

I greatly appreciate your help!

Martin Blackstone wrote:

> I don't know if it will run on W2K.
> That is a really old product. MS doesn't support it anymore either. 
> I'm sure it is fine for 12 people. I have run it with 60 on a PC (with

> a SCSI drive). My advise would be to either not mess with it at all, 
> or put it on a separate box.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> compatibility)
>
> Martin -
>
> Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we probably are 
> using Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am ignorant enough to not 
> know the difference.  I was under the impression that this was some 
> sort of version of Exchange 5.0, but I may be wrong.
>
> Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If not, what do 
> you recommend that I look at for upgrading the system?  We could all 
> go to external e-mail accounts, but I would prefer to keep our 
> inter-office mail internal if there is a simple way to do it.
>
> Again, thanks for your help.
>
> Martin Blackstone wrote:
>
> > Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > compatibility)
> >
> > I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply 
> > using the version of Exchange that was buried on the Win98se disk.  
> > We
>
> > are really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server 
> > and we all send messages to each other and transfer files via 
> > attachment.  It is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have 
> > here, it works great.
> >
> > The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server and are 
> > going
>
> > to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My question 
> > is
> > this:
> >
> > Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the Win98se 
> > disks
>
> > onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as we have 
> > in
>
> > the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different version of

> > Exchange Server?
> >
> > Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. 
> > Thanks!
> >
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RE: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibil ity)

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Scharff

Um well, that really depends on what you need mail to do. 

On the light end... iMail from IPSwitch is an appropriate solution for some.
Mercury mail has its fans and I'd be using mailsite for one of my personal
domains if they'd give me a free copy.

On the collaborative end... We used Exchange 5.5 with some success at my
last gig for fewer than 20 users. I don't really know that much about it,
but they seemed to like it. It's also running on my home server at the
moment for my wife, son and dog. Damn dog has a lot of calendar data though.

Chris
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If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 
> Pro compatibility)
> 
> 
> Chris -
> 
> Thanks for the input.  The search was most informative and it 
> is nice to know that I am not the only schmuck out there 
> wanting to try this.
> 
> One more question if I may.  My workgroup is probably never 
> going to exceed 20 computers.  If this doesn't work, what do 
> you suggest that I move to?
> 
> Thanks again for the help!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Mike Conner
> 
> Chris Scharff wrote:
> 
> > Um... Well, erm... Will it transfer? Yes. Is it supported? No.[1]
> >
> > Do a search at www.deja.com for WGPO and Windows 2000 and you might 
> > find some comments on the subject from the Outlook MVPs. 
> I've not kept 
> > up on their research in this area as WGPO and Outlook isn't really 
> > something I use.
> >
> > [1] Not supported on W2K and no longer supported in general.
> >
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:38 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro 
> > > compatibility)
> > >
> > >
> > > Martin -
> > >
> > > Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we 
> probably are 
> > > using Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am ignorant 
> enough to not 
> > > know the difference.  I was under the impression that 
> this was some 
> > > sort of version of Exchange 5.0, but I may be wrong.
> > >
> > > Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If 
> not, what do 
> > > you recommend that I look at for upgrading the system?  
> We could all 
> > > go to external e-mail accounts, but I would prefer to keep our 
> > > inter-office mail internal if there is a simple way to do it.
> > >
> > > Again, thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > Martin Blackstone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > > > compatibility)
> > > >
> > > > I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my 
> business is simply 
> > > > using the version of Exchange that was buried on the
> > > Win98se disk.  We
> > > > are really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the 
> > > > server and we all send messages to each other and 
> transfer files 
> > > > via attachment.  It is simple, but for the 12 or so 
> folks that we 
> > > > have here, it works great.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server
> > > and are going
> > > > to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My
> > > question is
> > > > this:
> > > >
> > > > Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the
> > > Win98se disks
> > > > onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as
> > > we have in
> > > > the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different
> > > version of
> > > > Exchange Server?
> > > >
> > > > Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly
> > > appreciated. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > 
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RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Andrew Chan

Sounds like a plan...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:15 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


I think I will just create a tutorial from the main site that explains
how to install the certificate.  Users connect to the root site and then
choose the appropriate domain.  This directs them to the appropriate
site that has clear text passwords enabled (over ssl of coarse) with a
default domain set. I can place a tutorial on the root site for them to
look at first.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


It is installed from the web server.  How many users do you have on your
LAN, it might just be as easy as sending out an email telling them what
to do when it pops up, since it's one time deal, you don't have to spend
much time on pushing it down.  I can't remember whether the config.pol
on win9x (since win9x will not read the GPO from win2K servers) will
have the options or not for the Cert trust list.  You may have to dig
around for that info.  I gave up on win9x for a long time.  Otherwise,
you might want to take a look at IEAK stuff.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA  

-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:42 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Also.  If you choose to install the certificate manually.  Where is it
installed from?  The OWA webserver or the original CA server that issued
the certificate?  

Pardon my ignorance.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


You can use a policy to pass on your CA in to the Trust List of your
browser (if you use IE), then all of your users will not be prompted by
their browser any more.  Otherwise, you will have to write up a
procedure, so when all the users receive the prompt, go to the tab, and
click on "install" or "import" this cert...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:23 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Yeah.  443 is open internally.  The OWA site is internal.  Did I do the
certificate process correctly?  Here's what I did.

1.  Setup Root CA in 2000 system outside of Firewall (Internet) 2.  From
IIS Directory Security tab clicked on Server Certificate 3.  Created new
certificate info and saved to txt file. 4.  When to CA server and chose
advanced options. 5.  Copy & paste info from text file. 6.  Authorized
certificate 7.  Went back and downloaded certificate 8.  Imported this
information into IIS site.

I believe everything is working now.  However, IS there a way to not get
prompted to install or "trust" the certificate.  Can I automate this
process somehow for "Internal" users.  Internal users do not have access
to the Internet.  The owa site is for "Internal" use and is on the LAN
not the Internet.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
- Original Message -
From: "Murphy, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I

> created two sites on the same server because I have two master 
> domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry 
> and changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to

> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS 
> properties for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not 
> required ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses

> up.  Most users do not have access to the internet (past the 
> firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require 
> access to the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can

> I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
>
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RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Murphy, Brian

I think I will just create a tutorial from the main site that explains how
to install the certificate.  Users connect to the root site and then choose
the appropriate domain.  This directs them to the appropriate site that has
clear text passwords enabled (over ssl of coarse) with a default domain set.
I can place a tutorial on the root site for them to look at first.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


It is installed from the web server.  How many users do you have on your
LAN, it might just be as easy as sending out an email telling them what
to do when it pops up, since it's one time deal, you don't have to spend
much time on pushing it down.  I can't remember whether the config.pol
on win9x (since win9x will not read the GPO from win2K servers) will
have the options or not for the Cert trust list.  You may have to dig
around for that info.  I gave up on win9x for a long time.  Otherwise,
you might want to take a look at IEAK stuff.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA  

-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:42 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Also.  If you choose to install the certificate manually.  Where is it
installed from?  The OWA webserver or the original CA server that issued
the certificate?  

Pardon my ignorance.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


You can use a policy to pass on your CA in to the Trust List of your
browser (if you use IE), then all of your users will not be prompted by
their browser any more.  Otherwise, you will have to write up a
procedure, so when all the users receive the prompt, go to the tab, and
click on "install" or "import" this cert...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:23 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Yeah.  443 is open internally.  The OWA site is internal.  Did I do the
certificate process correctly?  Here's what I did.

1.  Setup Root CA in 2000 system outside of Firewall (Internet) 2.  From
IIS Directory Security tab clicked on Server Certificate 3.  Created new
certificate info and saved to txt file. 4.  When to CA server and chose
advanced options. 5.  Copy & paste info from text file. 6.  Authorized
certificate 7.  Went back and downloaded certificate 8.  Imported this
information into IIS site.

I believe everything is working now.  However, IS there a way to not get
prompted to install or "trust" the certificate.  Can I automate this
process somehow for "Internal" users.  Internal users do not have access
to the Internet.  The owa site is for "Internal" use and is on the LAN
not the Internet.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
- Original Message -
From: "Murphy, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I

> created two sites on the same server because I have two master
> domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry
> and changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to

> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS
> properties for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not
> required ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses

> up.  Most users do not have access to the internet (past the
> firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require
> access to the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can

> I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
>
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RE: Distribution List - what if 700+

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Scharff

No, I mean a number between 100 and 199 which I can't remember off the top
of my head and isn't exactly a fixed number to begin with in my experience.
Anyway, for the purposes of this discussion 1XX means a number significantly
lower than 700+. There's an amazingly insightful article about it at
exchange.devx.com written by some Exchange Pro fellers.

Chris
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> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Sanborn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:02 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> What do you mean limited to 1XX entries?  Do you mean 199?
> 
> -Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> Exchange is an excellent tool for large mailings. The 
> Exchange 2000/IIS 5 SMTP engine is among the fastest spam 
> engines on the planet. The Exchange 5.5 SMTP engine was no 
> slouch either.
> 
> Outlook contacts are limited to 1XX entries, which is an 
> Exchange/Outlook issue, but good freaking luck in getting 
> either group to claim ownership of the issue and resolve it. 
> Anyway.. Since this is now an Outlook question I'll defer to 
> the FAQ and point to www.slipstick.com as the appropriate 
> point for research.
> 
> However, without a compelling need for them to be contacts, a 
> copy and paste from Visual-Inter-Notepad works with a minimum 
> of muss and fuss.
> 
> Chris
> -- 
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:32 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> > 
> > 
> > umm thx chris.
> > It was a restriction/issue that popped up when I tried to
> > make a DL with
> > 700+ recp in it from contacts. That's when Exch cried... saw
> > some Q's on
> > technet about it, but no good answers why it would
> > cry...Other then what Ive seen in the list here about Exch 
> > being a poor source for such large type mailing ...etc... I 
> > was really trying to do the DL so my user(s) could do mass 
> > e-mail and fax sending via OL2K without much other hoops for 
> > them to jump thru...this place is it's own 3 ring.
> > 
> > thx
> > bill
> > 
> > GroupWise would have never cried ;-)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:13 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> > 
> > 
> > Well, if I were creating the e-mail, I'd know exactly what
> > I'd configured in the registry the maximum number of 
> > recipients to be in a single message. So, I'd send it out 
> > with at least 1 fewer bcc recipient than that, and then I'd 
> > send out n more messages until I was done.
> > 
> > But by default, Exchange has no limit on the number of
> > recipients in a mail message and 95% of the "administrators" 
> > on this list are too lazy to have even considered 
> > implementing the registry change.
> > 
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:39 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Interesting But what if the user say had like 700+ 
> contacts to "send 
> > > too" and the exchnage system returned an error about over 
> > > limit...too many
> > > 
> > > bill
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:35 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Distribution List
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Lazy man's way. Export SMTP addresses to a txt file. Cut 
> and paste 
> > > to the BCC in Outlook. Done.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: MS Exchange Mailing List 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > 
> > > Sent: Tuesday,
> > > November 13, 2001 10:12 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Distribution List
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Greetings all...
> > > I need to send an html newsletter to about 200 associates
> > > external to the company. What is the easiest way to send such 
> > > a message without too much effort. Creating a distribution 
> > > list for this many contacts seems impractical. Is there a way 
> > > to import smtp addresses to a distribution list from an 
> > > external source such as a database? Would like to accomplish 
> > > this without buying extra software, if possible. Thanks for 
> > your help.
> > > 
> > > _

Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread mmnfc

Chris -

Thanks for the input.  The search was most informative and it is nice to
know that I am not the only schmuck out there wanting to try this.

One more question if I may.  My workgroup is probably never going to exceed
20 computers.  If this doesn't work, what do you suggest that I move to?

Thanks again for the help!

Sincerely,
Mike Conner

Chris Scharff wrote:

> Um... Well, erm... Will it transfer? Yes. Is it supported? No.[1]
>
> Do a search at www.deja.com for WGPO and Windows 2000 and you might find
> some comments on the subject from the Outlook MVPs. I've not kept up on
> their research in this area as WGPO and Outlook isn't really something I
> use.
>
> [1] Not supported on W2K and no longer supported in general.
>
> Chris
> --
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> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000
> > Pro compatibility)
> >
> >
> > Martin -
> >
> > Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we
> > probably are using Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am
> > ignorant enough to not know the difference.  I was under the
> > impression that this was some sort of version of Exchange
> > 5.0, but I may be wrong.
> >
> > Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If not,
> > what do you recommend that I look at for upgrading the
> > system?  We could all go to external e-mail accounts, but I
> > would prefer to keep our inter-office mail internal if there
> > is a simple way to do it.
> >
> > Again, thanks for your help.
> >
> > Martin Blackstone wrote:
> >
> > > Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > > compatibility)
> > >
> > > I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply
> > > using the version of Exchange that was buried on the
> > Win98se disk.  We
> > > are really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server
> > > and we all send messages to each other and transfer files via
> > > attachment.  It is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have
> > > here, it works great.
> > >
> > > The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server
> > and are going
> > > to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My
> > question is
> > > this:
> > >
> > > Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the
> > Win98se disks
> > > onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as
> > we have in
> > > the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different
> > version of
> > > Exchange Server?
> > >
> > > Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly
> > appreciated. Thanks!
> > >
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RE: Distribution List - what if 700+

2001-11-13 Thread Ed Sanborn

What do you mean limited to 1XX entries?  Do you mean 199?

-Ed

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+


Exchange is an excellent tool for large mailings. The Exchange 2000/IIS 5
SMTP engine is among the fastest spam engines on the planet. The Exchange
5.5 SMTP engine was no slouch either.

Outlook contacts are limited to 1XX entries, which is an Exchange/Outlook
issue, but good freaking luck in getting either group to claim ownership of
the issue and resolve it. Anyway.. Since this is now an Outlook question
I'll defer to the FAQ and point to www.slipstick.com as the appropriate
point for research.

However, without a compelling need for them to be contacts, a copy and paste
from Visual-Inter-Notepad works with a minimum of muss and fuss.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> umm thx chris.
> It was a restriction/issue that popped up when I tried to 
> make a DL with
> 700+ recp in it from contacts. That's when Exch cried... saw 
> some Q's on
> technet about it, but no good answers why it would 
> cry...Other then what Ive seen in the list here about Exch 
> being a poor source for such large type mailing ...etc... I 
> was really trying to do the DL so my user(s) could do mass 
> e-mail and fax sending via OL2K without much other hoops for 
> them to jump thru...this place is it's own 3 ring.
> 
> thx
> bill
> 
> GroupWise would have never cried ;-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> Well, if I were creating the e-mail, I'd know exactly what 
> I'd configured in the registry the maximum number of 
> recipients to be in a single message. So, I'd send it out 
> with at least 1 fewer bcc recipient than that, and then I'd 
> send out n more messages until I was done.
> 
> But by default, Exchange has no limit on the number of 
> recipients in a mail message and 95% of the "administrators" 
> on this list are too lazy to have even considered 
> implementing the registry change.
> 
> Chris
> -- 
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:39 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> > 
> > 
> > Interesting But what if the user say had like 700+ contacts
> > to "send too" and the exchnage system returned an error about 
> > over limit...too many
> > 
> > bill
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:35 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List
> > 
> > 
> > Lazy man's way. Export SMTP addresses to a txt file. Cut and
> > paste to the BCC in Outlook. Done.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: MS Exchange Mailing List
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday,
> > November 13, 2001 10:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Distribution List
> > 
> > 
> > Greetings all...
> > I need to send an html newsletter to about 200 associates 
> > external to the company. What is the easiest way to send such 
> > a message without too much effort. Creating a distribution 
> > list for this many contacts seems impractical. Is there a way 
> > to import smtp addresses to a distribution list from an 
> > external source such as a database? Would like to accomplish 
> > this without buying extra software, if possible. Thanks for 
> your help.
> > 
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RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Andrew Chan

It is installed from the web server.  How many users do you have on your
LAN, it might just be as easy as sending out an email telling them what
to do when it pops up, since it's one time deal, you don't have to spend
much time on pushing it down.  I can't remember whether the config.pol
on win9x (since win9x will not read the GPO from win2K servers) will
have the options or not for the Cert trust list.  You may have to dig
around for that info.  I gave up on win9x for a long time.  Otherwise,
you might want to take a look at IEAK stuff.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA  

-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:42 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Also.  If you choose to install the certificate manually.  Where is it
installed from?  The OWA webserver or the original CA server that issued
the certificate?  

Pardon my ignorance.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


You can use a policy to pass on your CA in to the Trust List of your
browser (if you use IE), then all of your users will not be prompted by
their browser any more.  Otherwise, you will have to write up a
procedure, so when all the users receive the prompt, go to the tab, and
click on "install" or "import" this cert...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:23 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Yeah.  443 is open internally.  The OWA site is internal.  Did I do the
certificate process correctly?  Here's what I did.

1.  Setup Root CA in 2000 system outside of Firewall (Internet) 2.  From
IIS Directory Security tab clicked on Server Certificate 3.  Created new
certificate info and saved to txt file. 4.  When to CA server and chose
advanced options. 5.  Copy & paste info from text file. 6.  Authorized
certificate 7.  Went back and downloaded certificate 8.  Imported this
information into IIS site.

I believe everything is working now.  However, IS there a way to not get
prompted to install or "trust" the certificate.  Can I automate this
process somehow for "Internal" users.  Internal users do not have access
to the Internet.  The owa site is for "Internal" use and is on the LAN
not the Internet.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
- Original Message -
From: "Murphy, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I

> created two sites on the same server because I have two master
> domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry
> and changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to

> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS
> properties for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not
> required ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses

> up.  Most users do not have access to the internet (past the
> firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require
> access to the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can

> I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
>
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Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread mmnfc

Martin -

Thanks for the note.  I was playing around with installing it on a separate
system and see how it would respond, but thought I would ask a few questions
first.

One last question if I may.  If this does not work, what do you recommend
for a workgroup of our size?

I greatly appreciate your help!

Martin Blackstone wrote:

> I don't know if it will run on W2K.
> That is a really old product. MS doesn't support it anymore either. I'm
> sure it is fine for 12 people. I have run it with 60 on a PC (with a
> SCSI drive).
> My advise would be to either not mess with it at all, or put it on a
> separate box.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> compatibility)
>
> Martin -
>
> Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we probably are
> using Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am ignorant enough to not know
> the difference.  I was under the impression that this was some sort of
> version of Exchange 5.0, but I may be wrong.
>
> Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If not, what do you
> recommend that I look at for upgrading the system?  We could all go to
> external e-mail accounts, but I would prefer to keep our inter-office
> mail internal if there is a simple way to do it.
>
> Again, thanks for your help.
>
> Martin Blackstone wrote:
>
> > Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > compatibility)
> >
> > I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply
> > using the version of Exchange that was buried on the Win98se disk.  We
>
> > are really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server
> > and we all send messages to each other and transfer files via
> > attachment.  It is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have
> > here, it works great.
> >
> > The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server and are going
>
> > to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My question is
> > this:
> >
> > Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the Win98se disks
>
> > onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as we have in
>
> > the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different version of
> > Exchange Server?
> >
> > Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
> >
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RE: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread Martin Blackstone

I don't know if it will run on W2K.
That is a really old product. MS doesn't support it anymore either. I'm
sure it is fine for 12 people. I have run it with 60 on a PC (with a
SCSI drive).
My advise would be to either not mess with it at all, or put it on a
separate box.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
compatibility)


Martin -

Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we probably are
using Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am ignorant enough to not know
the difference.  I was under the impression that this was some sort of
version of Exchange 5.0, but I may be wrong.

Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If not, what do you
recommend that I look at for upgrading the system?  We could all go to
external e-mail accounts, but I would prefer to keep our inter-office
mail internal if there is a simple way to do it.

Again, thanks for your help.

Martin Blackstone wrote:

> Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> compatibility)
>
> I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply 
> using the version of Exchange that was buried on the Win98se disk.  We

> are really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server 
> and we all send messages to each other and transfer files via 
> attachment.  It is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have 
> here, it works great.
>
> The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server and are going

> to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My question is
> this:
>
> Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the Win98se disks

> onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as we have in

> the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different version of 
> Exchange Server?
>
> Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
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RE: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread Barry Patterson

Here we go - from the Win98SE disk\tools\oldwin95\wms-fax.txt

"WHAT IS WINDOWS MESSAGING?
===
Windows Messaging is an update to Exchange that was originally shipped with
Windows 95. Like Exchange, Windows Messaging enables the user to send and
receive e-mail, faxes, and documents in message format by accessing a
Microsoft Mail Postoffice Mailbox Account. Information Services that can be
used with Windows Messaging include Microsoft Mail, Internet Mail, Microsoft
Fax, and the Microsoft Network. Windows Messaging is a Full MAPI Client.

WHAT IS MICROSOFT MAIL POSTOFFICE?
===
Microsoft Mail Postoffice was included in Windows for Workgroups, Windows
95, OSR2 and OSR2.5. Microsoft Mail Postoffice provides a centralized
location for Network Administrators or Small Office Administrators to create
and maintain a Workgroup Postoffice.  The Administrator would create an
account for each user within the Workgroup Postoffice.  This account would
then provide users the ability to send or receive e-mail to or from other
users within the company network. "


Barry

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
compatibility)


Martin -

Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we probably are using
Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am ignorant enough to not know the
difference.  I was under the impression that this was some sort of version
of Exchange 5.0, but I may be wrong.

Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If not, what do you
recommend that I look at for upgrading the system?  We could all go to
external e-mail accounts, but I would prefer to keep our inter-office mail
internal if there is a simple way to do it.

Again, thanks for your help.

Martin Blackstone wrote:

> Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> compatibility)
>
> I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply using
> the version of Exchange that was buried on the Win98se disk.  We are
> really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server and we
> all send messages to each other and transfer files via attachment.  It
> is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have here, it works great.
>
> The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server and are going
> to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My question is
> this:
>
> Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the Win98se disks
> onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as we have in
> the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different version of
> Exchange Server?
>
> Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
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RE: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibil ity)

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Scharff

Um... Well, erm... Will it transfer? Yes. Is it supported? No.[1]

Do a search at www.deja.com for WGPO and Windows 2000 and you might find
some comments on the subject from the Outlook MVPs. I've not kept up on
their research in this area as WGPO and Outlook isn't really something I
use.

[1] Not supported on W2K and no longer supported in general.

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 
> Pro compatibility)
> 
> 
> Martin -
> 
> Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we 
> probably are using Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am 
> ignorant enough to not know the difference.  I was under the 
> impression that this was some sort of version of Exchange 
> 5.0, but I may be wrong.
> 
> Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If not, 
> what do you recommend that I look at for upgrading the 
> system?  We could all go to external e-mail accounts, but I 
> would prefer to keep our inter-office mail internal if there 
> is a simple way to do it.
> 
> Again, thanks for your help.
> 
> Martin Blackstone wrote:
> 
> > Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> > compatibility)
> >
> > I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply 
> > using the version of Exchange that was buried on the 
> Win98se disk.  We 
> > are really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server 
> > and we all send messages to each other and transfer files via 
> > attachment.  It is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have 
> > here, it works great.
> >
> > The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server 
> and are going 
> > to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My 
> question is
> > this:
> >
> > Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the 
> Win98se disks 
> > onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as 
> we have in 
> > the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different 
> version of 
> > Exchange Server?
> >
> > Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly 
> appreciated. Thanks!
> >
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Re: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread mmnfc

Martin -

Thanks for the response.  You are probably right and we probably are using
Microsoft Mail.  I'm afraid that I am ignorant enough to not know the
difference.  I was under the impression that this was some sort of version
of Exchange 5.0, but I may be wrong.

Any idea if this will transfer to Windows 2000 pro?  If not, what do you
recommend that I look at for upgrading the system?  We could all go to
external e-mail accounts, but I would prefer to keep our inter-office mail
internal if there is a simple way to do it.

Again, thanks for your help.

Martin Blackstone wrote:

> Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
> compatibility)
>
> I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply using
> the version of Exchange that was buried on the Win98se disk.  We are
> really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server and we
> all send messages to each other and transfer files via attachment.  It
> is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have here, it works great.
>
> The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server and are going
> to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My question is
> this:
>
> Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the Win98se disks
> onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as we have in
> the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different version of
> Exchange Server?
>
> Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
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RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Murphy, Brian

Also.  If you choose to install the certificate manually.  Where is it
installed from?  The OWA webserver or the original CA server that issued the
certificate?  

Pardon my ignorance.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


You can use a policy to pass on your CA in to the Trust List of your
browser (if you use IE), then all of your users will not be prompted by
their browser any more.  Otherwise, you will have to write up a
procedure, so when all the users receive the prompt, go to the tab, and
click on "install" or "import" this cert...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:23 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Yeah.  443 is open internally.  The OWA site is internal.  Did I do the
certificate process correctly?  Here's what I did.

1.  Setup Root CA in 2000 system outside of Firewall (Internet) 2.  From
IIS Directory Security tab clicked on Server Certificate 3.  Created new
certificate info and saved to txt file. 4.  When to CA server and chose
advanced options. 5.  Copy & paste info from text file. 6.  Authorized
certificate 7.  Went back and downloaded certificate 8.  Imported this
information into IIS site.

I believe everything is working now.  However, IS there a way to not get
prompted to install or "trust" the certificate.  Can I automate this
process somehow for "Internal" users.  Internal users do not have access
to the Internet.  The owa site is for "Internal" use and is on the LAN
not the Internet.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
- Original Message -
From: "Murphy, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I

> created two sites on the same server because I have two master 
> domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry 
> and changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to

> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS 
> properties for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not 
> required ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses

> up.  Most users do not have access to the internet (past the 
> firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require 
> access to the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can

> I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
>
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RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Murphy, Brian

Client OS is Win98.  Server side is W2k SP2, Exc 5.5 SP4, OWA

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


What's your environment?  W2k? NT4? Client OS?

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:30 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


All users will have IE 5.0 or higher installed.  What is a good starting
point for learning how to create the policy?

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


You can use a policy to pass on your CA in to the Trust List of your
browser (if you use IE), then all of your users will not be prompted by
their browser any more.  Otherwise, you will have to write up a
procedure, so when all the users receive the prompt, go to the tab, and
click on "install" or "import" this cert...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:23 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Yeah.  443 is open internally.  The OWA site is internal.  Did I do the
certificate process correctly?  Here's what I did.

1.  Setup Root CA in 2000 system outside of Firewall (Internet) 2.  From
IIS Directory Security tab clicked on Server Certificate 3.  Created new
certificate info and saved to txt file. 4.  When to CA server and chose
advanced options. 5.  Copy & paste info from text file. 6.  Authorized
certificate 7.  Went back and downloaded certificate 8.  Imported this
information into IIS site.

I believe everything is working now.  However, IS there a way to not get
prompted to install or "trust" the certificate.  Can I automate this
process somehow for "Internal" users.  Internal users do not have access
to the Internet.  The owa site is for "Internal" use and is on the LAN
not the Internet.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
- Original Message -
From: "Murphy, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I

> created two sites on the same server because I have two master
> domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry
> and changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to

> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS
> properties for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not
> required ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses

> up.  Most users do not have access to the internet (past the
> firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require
> access to the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can

> I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
>
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5.5 Move to E2k - Big Problem

2001-11-13 Thread Hooks, Tim

Hi List,

I am hoping some of you have some insight on a problem I am having. The
scenario is as follows:

The network is win2k native mode, sp2, with two domain controllers.

I currently have Exchange 5.5, SP4 on a Win2k domain controller (was also a
GC until last weekend) with 150 users. 

I have set up a Exchange 2000 on another server (non-DC) after running
forest prep and domain prep. I installed the Exchange 2000 ADC. I installed
win2k sp1, I joined the existed org during installation.

The problem is I cannot mount the information store on the win2k Exchange
server, and therefore I cannot move any mailboxes. I get an 9175 error every
minute on the exchange 2k server, an 8213 every 25 minutes, mixed in with
some 101's after a reboot. On the existing 5.5 server I get some 565
security errors - Directory service access errors.

Both the 5.5 and 2000 admin consoles know of the other server's existence.

I have poured over Technet and found some interesting stuff - most of the
changes were of no help. However, Q275127 mentions no upgrade path for 5.5
on win2k to exchange 2000 (that's why I demoted the 5.5 GC status, waited a
day, and rebooted). At this point I am considering opening a ticket with MS
and/or running dcpromo to demote the 5.5 server. Any suggestions or comments
are welcome.

Timothy J. Hooks, MCSE
Kegler, Brown, Hill & Ritter
65 E. State Street, Suite 1800
Columbus, Ohio 43215


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RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Andrew Chan

What's your environment?  W2k? NT4? Client OS?

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:30 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


All users will have IE 5.0 or higher installed.  What is a good starting
point for learning how to create the policy?

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


You can use a policy to pass on your CA in to the Trust List of your
browser (if you use IE), then all of your users will not be prompted by
their browser any more.  Otherwise, you will have to write up a
procedure, so when all the users receive the prompt, go to the tab, and
click on "install" or "import" this cert...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:23 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Yeah.  443 is open internally.  The OWA site is internal.  Did I do the
certificate process correctly?  Here's what I did.

1.  Setup Root CA in 2000 system outside of Firewall (Internet) 2.  From
IIS Directory Security tab clicked on Server Certificate 3.  Created new
certificate info and saved to txt file. 4.  When to CA server and chose
advanced options. 5.  Copy & paste info from text file. 6.  Authorized
certificate 7.  Went back and downloaded certificate 8.  Imported this
information into IIS site.

I believe everything is working now.  However, IS there a way to not get
prompted to install or "trust" the certificate.  Can I automate this
process somehow for "Internal" users.  Internal users do not have access
to the Internet.  The owa site is for "Internal" use and is on the LAN
not the Internet.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
- Original Message -
From: "Murphy, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I

> created two sites on the same server because I have two master
> domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry
> and changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to

> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS
> properties for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not
> required ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses

> up.  Most users do not have access to the internet (past the
> firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require
> access to the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can

> I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
>
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RE: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread Martin Blackstone

Are you sure you are not using Microsoft Mail?

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro
compatibility)


I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply using
the version of Exchange that was buried on the Win98se disk.  We are
really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server and we
all send messages to each other and transfer files via attachment.  It
is simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have here, it works great.

The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server and are going
to go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My question is
this:

Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the Win98se disks
onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as we have in
the past, or are we going to have to purchase a different version of
Exchange Server?

Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Murphy, Brian

All users will have IE 5.0 or higher installed.  What is a good starting
point for learning how to create the policy?

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


You can use a policy to pass on your CA in to the Trust List of your
browser (if you use IE), then all of your users will not be prompted by
their browser any more.  Otherwise, you will have to write up a
procedure, so when all the users receive the prompt, go to the tab, and
click on "install" or "import" this cert...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:23 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Yeah.  443 is open internally.  The OWA site is internal.  Did I do the
certificate process correctly?  Here's what I did.

1.  Setup Root CA in 2000 system outside of Firewall (Internet) 2.  From
IIS Directory Security tab clicked on Server Certificate 3.  Created new
certificate info and saved to txt file. 4.  When to CA server and chose
advanced options. 5.  Copy & paste info from text file. 6.  Authorized
certificate 7.  Went back and downloaded certificate 8.  Imported this
information into IIS site.

I believe everything is working now.  However, IS there a way to not get
prompted to install or "trust" the certificate.  Can I automate this
process somehow for "Internal" users.  Internal users do not have access
to the Internet.  The owa site is for "Internal" use and is on the LAN
not the Internet.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
- Original Message -
From: "Murphy, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I

> created two sites on the same server because I have two master 
> domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry 
> and changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to

> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS 
> properties for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not 
> required ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses

> up.  Most users do not have access to the internet (past the 
> firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require 
> access to the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can

> I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
>
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RE: E2K OWA with Exchange 5.5

2001-11-13 Thread John Matteson

And that short is, VERY short, one name, right? 

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral;
begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil,
it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do
not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning
violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night
already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do
that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K OWA with Exchange 5.5


Someone at a high level in IT needs to hire some consultants so you can get
E2K implemented post haste I can suggest a short list of qualified
candidates if you like. Just ask that IT person to open their wallet and
smile.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Yeutter, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:30 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: E2K OWA with Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> I Apologize if this has been asked before in some form.
> 
> We are currently in the process of migrating users from an NT 
> 4.0 Domain to a new Active Directory Domain. We have an 
> Exchange 5.5 sp3 site containing 4 servers in a resource 
> domain. Someone at a high level in IT has promised 
> administration that we will have the E2K version of OWA 
> available. We are not yet in a position to upgrade Exchange to E2K. 
> My question is: Is there any way to use E2K OWA with a 5.5 
> site, like adding an E2K server to the site?
> 
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RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Andrew Chan

You can use a policy to pass on your CA in to the Trust List of your
browser (if you use IE), then all of your users will not be prompted by
their browser any more.  Otherwise, you will have to write up a
procedure, so when all the users receive the prompt, go to the tab, and
click on "install" or "import" this cert...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:23 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: OWA 5.5 and SSL
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Yeah.  443 is open internally.  The OWA site is internal.  Did I do the
certificate process correctly?  Here's what I did.

1.  Setup Root CA in 2000 system outside of Firewall (Internet) 2.  From
IIS Directory Security tab clicked on Server Certificate 3.  Created new
certificate info and saved to txt file. 4.  When to CA server and chose
advanced options. 5.  Copy & paste info from text file. 6.  Authorized
certificate 7.  Went back and downloaded certificate 8.  Imported this
information into IIS site.

I believe everything is working now.  However, IS there a way to not get
prompted to install or "trust" the certificate.  Can I automate this
process somehow for "Internal" users.  Internal users do not have access
to the Internet.  The owa site is for "Internal" use and is on the LAN
not the Internet.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
- Original Message -
From: "Murphy, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I

> created two sites on the same server because I have two master 
> domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry 
> and changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to

> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS 
> properties for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not 
> required ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses

> up.  Most users do not have access to the internet (past the 
> firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require 
> access to the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can

> I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
>
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Microsoft Exchange 5.0 Questions (Windows 2000 Pro compatibility)

2001-11-13 Thread mmnfc

I am fairly new to the world of Exchange and my business is simply using
the version of Exchange that was buried on the Win98se disk.  We are
really complicated here:  We set up a Post Office on the server and we all
send messages to each other and transfer files via attachment.  It is
simple, but for the 12 or so folks that we have here, it works great.

The problem is that we are looking to upgrade our server and are going to
go with Windows 2000 Pro for the operating system.  My question is this:

Can you simply install the Exchange 5.0 that came on the Win98se disks
onto a Windows 2000 Pro platform and use our post office as we have in the
past, or are we going to have to purchase a different version of Exchange
Server?

Any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

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OWA 5.5 Access

2001-11-13 Thread Bare, Ronald A.

Can someone explain why the following happens sometimes with OWA on 5.5?

For a new account OWA access fails when we use the Exchange Alias. However,
the account is accessible if we use the user's full name, that is "Firstname
Lastname" in place of the ALIAS?

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RE: Hi

2001-11-13 Thread Dupler, Craig


Thanks John.  Actually, I've spoken on several EMA panels.  But about six
years ago I started spending my conference time in VoIP areas.  I try to do
at least one pitch per year, and have been doing that for more than a
decade.  Here is a partial list of the places where I've spoken:


1994:  Integration Considerations: Exchange Deployment Conference - Seattle
1995:  Telephony Integration: Exchange Conference - Atlanta (I think this
was a session devoted to Exchange at the EMA - there used to be dueling
sessions between Exchange and Notes at the EMA)
1996:  The Future of Enterprise Voice Mail: Voice Messaging Association Fall
Meeting - Amsterdam
1997:  Voice over IP: IBC Conference on VoIP - London
1998:  Enterprise VoIP and Voice Mail: IBC Conference on VoIP - Orlando
1999:  Enterprise VoIP and Voice Mail: ICM Conference on VoIP - Las Vegas
1999:  Update on the Future of Enterprise VoIP and Voice Mail: Voice
Messaging Association Spring Meeting - Helsinki
2000:  Unified Messaging and Desktop Conferencing: ICM Conference on Unified
Messaging - Orlando [Webcast]
2001:  Directions for Video Conferencing in Enterprise: IMTC Fall Forum -
Seattle

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


Craig:

Maybe you need to "move up" the ladder to one of the messaging
industry conferences, EMA (or whatever their replacement is), rather than
sticking with MEC.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral;
begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil,
it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do
not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning
violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night
already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do
that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

- Original Message -
From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Hi


Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC.  I'm more of an
Exchange fan than they are . . .

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RE: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Murphy, Brian

Yeah.  443 is open internally.  The OWA site is internal.  Did I do the
certificate process correctly?  Here's what I did.

1.  Setup Root CA in 2000 system outside of Firewall (Internet)
2.  From IIS Directory Security tab clicked on Server Certificate
3.  Created new certificate info and saved to txt file.
4.  When to CA server and chose advanced options.
5.  Copy & paste info from text file.
6.  Authorized certificate
7.  Went back and downloaded certificate
8.  Imported this information into IIS site.

I believe everything is working now.  However, IS there a way to not get
prompted to install or "trust" the certificate.  Can I automate this process
somehow for "Internal" users.  Internal users do not have access to the
Internet.  The owa site is for "Internal" use and is on the LAN not the
Internet.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL


Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
- Original Message -
From: "Murphy, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I
> created two sites on the same server because I have two master domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry and
> changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to
> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS properties
> for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not required
> ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses up.  Most
> users do not have access to the internet (past the firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require access to
> the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
>
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RE: Hi

2001-11-13 Thread Drewski

Indeed.  That was cool.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
If we in our turn plan on militarism, vengeance, and retaliation, if we steel
our spirits against the suffering which such pursuits always cause to the
innocent, in short, if we turn to the tools of death, then whatever hollow
triumph we may trumpet, it will have been Death alone which has won. --G. Simon
Harak, Jesuit Priest interviewed 9/21 in NY

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darcy Adams
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


Actually, Craig's been talking telephony and handhelds for about six years - and
has an amazing memory for all the little details that really tell the story.

Craig: for the record, I think you really should work on a history of Exchange
and Microsoft's messaging strategy(ies) and activity(ies) in general.

Darcy

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Hi


We do wish you would.  Someone who sees the future, and is willing to
speculate (you've been talking about telephony & handhelds for at least
three years now) on what the future of messaging holds, would be great!

M
- Original Message -
From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Hi


Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC.  I'm more of an
Exchange fan than they are . . .



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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

2001-11-13 Thread Mike Pelley

Hmmm...  I had 1700 users on one HP NetServer LH3.  The max uptime was =
302 days without a reboot (had to shutdown because I had to physically =
move the server into a cabinet).  I don't know why people say =
NT/Exchange needs a reboot every week (or less!).

Mike (Former Exchange 5.5 administrator)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/ias/index.html?um_ms_questions.html

This gets even better. There is a huge need for 1 million users in a =
single corp. on a single server.

"According to a survey done by The Radicati Group, the average number of =
users per Microsoft Exchange server was 321. Boeing has 400 Microsoft =
Exchange servers to support 162,000 end users, an average of 405 users =
per server.=20

Oracle's email server can support up to a million users per node"


Where does he get such wonderful toys.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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RE: Read-only mailbox

2001-11-13 Thread Drewski

No, no, you're right... 

-- Drew

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"You do not need an AR-15, or M-60 to hunt Bambi." -- Tom McCarty

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Read-only mailbox


Doesn't meet the requirements. To access the PF they have to have Outlook
and a mailbox. If they have a mailbox, then they can send. Unless they test
my solution first. But that would be redundant/an extra step. Not that I'm
poking holes in your suggestion, I'm just playing Andy's Advocate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Read-only mailbox


set up a public folder, give the user read-only rights to the public folder.

-- Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Read-only mailbox


Is it possible to give a person a "read-only" mailbox?  We have a business
unit who'd like to be able to send notifications to people, but not allow
them to send anything out.  We don't have OWA, so I don't believe Anonymous
access to a public folder can apply.  I suggested using a web page for
announcements, but I was asked to follow up on this first.

I tried setting the Outgoing Message size limit to 0 kb on the "Limits" tab
in Exch Admin, but that didn't seem to work.  I was still able to send a
message.

Exchange 5.5, SP4
Outlook 2000

Thanks,

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Re: OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Tony Hlabse

Sounds like you need to open port 443 to allow SSL to your IIS server
hosting your OWA pages.
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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: OWA 5.5 and SSL


> I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I
> created two sites on the same server because I have two master domains.
All
> mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry and
> changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.
>
> I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to
> create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS properties
> for the root site.
>
> Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not required
> ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses up.  Most
> users do not have access to the internet (past the firewall).
>
> I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require access to
> the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can I somehow
allow
> them to get this from the webserver?
>
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OWA 5.5 and SSL

2001-11-13 Thread Murphy, Brian

I have setup a test OWA server on Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2000 OS.  I
created two sites on the same server because I have two master domains.  All
mailboxes are located on this one box.  After modifying the registry and
changing a few files in each directory...everything works great.

I installed a CA server on the outside of my firewall.  I used this to
create a certificate which I subsequently imported into the IIS properties
for the root site.

Internal users can connect to the site normally http: (I have not required
ssl yet) but when they connect using https: the browser hoses up.  Most
users do not have access to the internet (past the firewall).  

I am just learning certificates.  Does the internal user require access to
the Certificate Server on the outside of the firewall or can I somehow allow
them to get this from the webserver?


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RE: Distribution List - what if 700+

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Scharff

Yes, you're correct[0], the limit is 5,000 by default in E2K. They've also
completely fscked the way DL expansion is counted against those limits in
E2K. 

Q233376
But you'll be happy to know that according to MS the maximum number of
recipients for SMTP mail is 2,000,000,000. You might be unhappy to know that
Exchange 2000 developers chose to enable the minimum maximum for SMTP
recipients as called for in the RFC by default, which at the very least is
not in keeping with the spirit of RFC821.[1]

Anyway... The default limit in E2K could be adjusted by administrators who
care to, just as they could be set in the first place by administrators who
care to in 5.5, but the same 95% of admins are still clueless.


[0] Andy being the Exchange guru that he is.
[1] Obsolete this! 

Chris
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> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> I may be wrong, but doesnt E2k have a default limit of 5,000?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> Well, if I were creating the e-mail, I'd know exactly what 
> I'd configured in the registry the maximum number of 
> recipients to be in a single message. So, I'd send it out 
> with at least 1 fewer bcc recipient than that, and then I'd 
> send out n more messages until I was done.
> 
> But by default, Exchange has no limit on the number of 
> recipients in a mail message and 95% of the "administrators" 
> on this list are too lazy to have even considered 
> implementing the registry change.
> 
> Chris
> -- 
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:39 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> > 
> > 
> > Interesting But what if the user say had like 700+ contacts
> > to "send too" and the exchnage system returned an error about 
> > over limit...too many
> > 
> > bill
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:35 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List
> > 
> > 
> > Lazy man's way. Export SMTP addresses to a txt file. Cut and
> > paste to the BCC in Outlook. Done.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: MS Exchange Mailing List
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday,
> > November 13, 2001 10:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Distribution List
> > 
> > 
> > Greetings all...
> > I need to send an html newsletter to about 200 associates 
> > external to the company. What is the easiest way to send such 
> > a message without too much effort. Creating a distribution 
> > list for this many contacts seems impractical. Is there a way 
> > to import smtp addresses to a distribution list from an 
> > external source such as a database? Would like to accomplish 
> > this without buying extra software, if possible. Thanks for 
> your help.
> > 
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RE: Distribution List - what if 700+

2001-11-13 Thread Mellott, Bill

thx, yes my 5.5 was quite the spammer/open relay 
OL ...interesting since the error it cried at me was; it was an exchange
server issue.
I thought it was a OL thing.

thx
bill

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+


Exchange is an excellent tool for large mailings. The Exchange 2000/IIS 5
SMTP engine is among the fastest spam engines on the planet. The Exchange
5.5 SMTP engine was no slouch either.

Outlook contacts are limited to 1XX entries, which is an Exchange/Outlook
issue, but good freaking luck in getting either group to claim ownership of
the issue and resolve it. Anyway.. Since this is now an Outlook question
I'll defer to the FAQ and point to www.slipstick.com as the appropriate
point for research.

However, without a compelling need for them to be contacts, a copy and paste
from Visual-Inter-Notepad works with a minimum of muss and fuss.

Chris
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> umm thx chris.
> It was a restriction/issue that popped up when I tried to 
> make a DL with
> 700+ recp in it from contacts. That's when Exch cried... saw 
> some Q's on
> technet about it, but no good answers why it would 
> cry...Other then what Ive seen in the list here about Exch 
> being a poor source for such large type mailing ...etc... I 
> was really trying to do the DL so my user(s) could do mass 
> e-mail and fax sending via OL2K without much other hoops for 
> them to jump thru...this place is it's own 3 ring.
> 
> thx
> bill
> 
> GroupWise would have never cried ;-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> Well, if I were creating the e-mail, I'd know exactly what 
> I'd configured in the registry the maximum number of 
> recipients to be in a single message. So, I'd send it out 
> with at least 1 fewer bcc recipient than that, and then I'd 
> send out n more messages until I was done.
> 
> But by default, Exchange has no limit on the number of 
> recipients in a mail message and 95% of the "administrators" 
> on this list are too lazy to have even considered 
> implementing the registry change.
> 
> Chris
> -- 
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:39 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> > 
> > 
> > Interesting But what if the user say had like 700+ contacts
> > to "send too" and the exchnage system returned an error about 
> > over limit...too many
> > 
> > bill
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:35 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List
> > 
> > 
> > Lazy man's way. Export SMTP addresses to a txt file. Cut and
> > paste to the BCC in Outlook. Done.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: MS Exchange Mailing List
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday,
> > November 13, 2001 10:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Distribution List
> > 
> > 
> > Greetings all...
> > I need to send an html newsletter to about 200 associates 
> > external to the company. What is the easiest way to send such 
> > a message without too much effort. Creating a distribution 
> > list for this many contacts seems impractical. Is there a way 
> > to import smtp addresses to a distribution list from an 
> > external source such as a database? Would like to accomplish 
> > this without buying extra software, if possible. Thanks for 
> your help.
> > 
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RE: Typical Settings

2001-11-13 Thread Kim Cameron

the Everyone group is listed there, but what is checked in the Allow column below?  
unless you've got things really knackered, it should not have full access or anything 
close.

perhaps you could start by reading the permissions whitepaper at 
http://www.exinternals.com/Whitepapers/PermissionsV3.1.doc.

Kim Cameron

Messaging and Directory Resources
SAS Institute Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Crumbaker, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Typical Settings



That is what I am trying to find out.

I had someone point this out to me and now I see that Everyone is in
there.  However, when I try to remove it, it says it is inherited from
the parent.  I can't seem to remove it...if I remove it, will the users
still have access to their mailboxes, or do I need to add them each to
their own mailbox?

Thank you,

Thank you,

Ron Crumbaker, MCP
Network Specialist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MPD, Inc. -An Employee Owned Company
Office 270-685-6381
Fax 270-685-6212





-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Typical Settings


Everyone does not typically have allowed rights to mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Crumbaker, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Typical Settings


What are the typical settings on MailBox rights for users and admins on
E2k
SP1.
 
How can you remove Everyone from the list? 

Where can you change these setting?
 
Thank you,

Ron Crumbaker, MCP
Network Specialist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Office 270-685-6381
Fax 270-685-6212



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RE: Distribution List - what if 700+

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Scharff

Exchange is an excellent tool for large mailings. The Exchange 2000/IIS 5
SMTP engine is among the fastest spam engines on the planet. The Exchange
5.5 SMTP engine was no slouch either.

Outlook contacts are limited to 1XX entries, which is an Exchange/Outlook
issue, but good freaking luck in getting either group to claim ownership of
the issue and resolve it. Anyway.. Since this is now an Outlook question
I'll defer to the FAQ and point to www.slipstick.com as the appropriate
point for research.

However, without a compelling need for them to be contacts, a copy and paste
from Visual-Inter-Notepad works with a minimum of muss and fuss.

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> umm thx chris.
> It was a restriction/issue that popped up when I tried to 
> make a DL with
> 700+ recp in it from contacts. That's when Exch cried... saw 
> some Q's on
> technet about it, but no good answers why it would 
> cry...Other then what Ive seen in the list here about Exch 
> being a poor source for such large type mailing ...etc... I 
> was really trying to do the DL so my user(s) could do mass 
> e-mail and fax sending via OL2K without much other hoops for 
> them to jump thru...this place is it's own 3 ring.
> 
> thx
> bill
> 
> GroupWise would have never cried ;-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> Well, if I were creating the e-mail, I'd know exactly what 
> I'd configured in the registry the maximum number of 
> recipients to be in a single message. So, I'd send it out 
> with at least 1 fewer bcc recipient than that, and then I'd 
> send out n more messages until I was done.
> 
> But by default, Exchange has no limit on the number of 
> recipients in a mail message and 95% of the "administrators" 
> on this list are too lazy to have even considered 
> implementing the registry change.
> 
> Chris
> -- 
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:39 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> > 
> > 
> > Interesting But what if the user say had like 700+ contacts
> > to "send too" and the exchnage system returned an error about 
> > over limit...too many
> > 
> > bill
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:35 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Distribution List
> > 
> > 
> > Lazy man's way. Export SMTP addresses to a txt file. Cut and
> > paste to the BCC in Outlook. Done.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: MS Exchange Mailing List
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday,
> > November 13, 2001 10:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Distribution List
> > 
> > 
> > Greetings all...
> > I need to send an html newsletter to about 200 associates 
> > external to the company. What is the easiest way to send such 
> > a message without too much effort. Creating a distribution 
> > list for this many contacts seems impractical. Is there a way 
> > to import smtp addresses to a distribution list from an 
> > external source such as a database? Would like to accomplish 
> > this without buying extra software, if possible. Thanks for 
> your help.
> > 
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RE: Hi

2001-11-13 Thread John Matteson

Craig:

Maybe you need to "move up" the ladder to one of the messaging
industry conferences, EMA (or whatever their replacement is), rather than
sticking with MEC.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral;
begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil,
it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do
not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning
violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night
already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do
that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

- Original Message -
From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Hi


Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC.  I'm more of an
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RE: Distribution List - what if 700+

2001-11-13 Thread Mellott, Bill

umm thx chris.
It was a restriction/issue that popped up when I tried to make a DL with
700+ recp in it from contacts. That's when Exch cried... saw some Q's on
technet about it, but no good answers why it would cry...Other then what Ive
seen in the list here about Exch being a poor source for such large type
mailing ...etc...
I was really trying to do the DL so my user(s) could do mass e-mail and fax
sending via OL2K without much other hoops for them to jump thru...this place
is it's own 3 ring.

thx
bill

GroupWise would have never cried ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+


Well, if I were creating the e-mail, I'd know exactly what I'd configured in
the registry the maximum number of recipients to be in a single message. So,
I'd send it out with at least 1 fewer bcc recipient than that, and then I'd
send out n more messages until I was done.

But by default, Exchange has no limit on the number of recipients in a mail
message and 95% of the "administrators" on this list are too lazy to have
even considered implementing the registry change.

Chris
-- 
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MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> Interesting But what if the user say had like 700+ contacts 
> to "send too" and the exchnage system returned an error about 
> over limit...too many
> 
> bill
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List
> 
> 
> Lazy man's way. Export SMTP addresses to a txt file. Cut and 
> paste to the BCC in Outlook. Done.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: MS Exchange Mailing List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 
> November 13, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Distribution List
> 
> 
> Greetings all... 
> I need to send an html newsletter to about 200 associates 
> external to the company. What is the easiest way to send such 
> a message without too much effort. Creating a distribution 
> list for this many contacts seems impractical. Is there a way 
> to import smtp addresses to a distribution list from an 
> external source such as a database? Would like to accomplish 
> this without buying extra software, if possible. Thanks for your help.
> 
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RE: Distribution List - what if 700+

2001-11-13 Thread Andy David

I may be wrong, but doesnt E2k have a default limit of 5,000?


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+


Well, if I were creating the e-mail, I'd know exactly what I'd configured in
the registry the maximum number of recipients to be in a single message. So,
I'd send it out with at least 1 fewer bcc recipient than that, and then I'd
send out n more messages until I was done.

But by default, Exchange has no limit on the number of recipients in a mail
message and 95% of the "administrators" on this list are too lazy to have
even considered implementing the registry change.

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> Interesting But what if the user say had like 700+ contacts 
> to "send too" and the exchnage system returned an error about 
> over limit...too many
> 
> bill
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List
> 
> 
> Lazy man's way. Export SMTP addresses to a txt file. Cut and 
> paste to the BCC in Outlook. Done.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: MS Exchange Mailing List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 
> November 13, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Distribution List
> 
> 
> Greetings all... 
> I need to send an html newsletter to about 200 associates 
> external to the company. What is the easiest way to send such 
> a message without too much effort. Creating a distribution 
> list for this many contacts seems impractical. Is there a way 
> to import smtp addresses to a distribution list from an 
> external source such as a database? Would like to accomplish 
> this without buying extra software, if possible. Thanks for your help.
> 
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RE: Disclaimers in Exchange 2000

2001-11-13 Thread John Matteson

Please read the FAQ. It's in there.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral;
begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil,
it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do
not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning
violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night
already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do
that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disclaimers in Exchange 2000


I need to create outbound disclaimers for all messages leaving the
Exchange 2000 server.  I believe this need to be programmed in C++ for
this to work correctly.  Anyone have any suggestions on where I might find
something for free???

Also Delivery Restrictions in the SMTP connector do not appear to work at
all, anyone

TA

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RE: Hi

2001-11-13 Thread Darcy Adams

Actually, Craig's been talking telephony and handhelds for about six years - and has 
an amazing memory for all the little details that really tell the story.

Craig: for the record, I think you really should work on a history of Exchange and 
Microsoft's messaging strategy(ies) and activity(ies) in general.

Darcy

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Hi


We do wish you would.  Someone who sees the future, and is willing to
speculate (you've been talking about telephony & handhelds for at least
three years now) on what the future of messaging holds, would be great!

M
- Original Message -
From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Hi


Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC.  I'm more of an
Exchange fan than they are . . .



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RE: E2K OWA with Exchange 5.5

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Scharff

Someone at a high level in IT needs to hire some consultants so you can get
E2K implemented post haste I can suggest a short list of qualified
candidates if you like. Just ask that IT person to open their wallet and
smile.

Chris
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If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Yeutter, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:30 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: E2K OWA with Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> I Apologize if this has been asked before in some form.
> 
> We are currently in the process of migrating users from an NT 
> 4.0 Domain to a new Active Directory Domain. We have an 
> Exchange 5.5 sp3 site containing 4 servers in a resource 
> domain. Someone at a high level in IT has promised 
> administration that we will have the E2K version of OWA 
> available. We are not yet in a position to upgrade Exchange to E2K. 
> My question is: Is there any way to use E2K OWA with a 5.5 
> site, like adding an E2K server to the site?
> 
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RE: Distribution List - what if 700+

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Scharff

Well, if I were creating the e-mail, I'd know exactly what I'd configured in
the registry the maximum number of recipients to be in a single message. So,
I'd send it out with at least 1 fewer bcc recipient than that, and then I'd
send out n more messages until I was done.

But by default, Exchange has no limit on the number of recipients in a mail
message and 95% of the "administrators" on this list are too lazy to have
even considered implementing the registry change.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -Original Message-
> From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List - what if 700+
> 
> 
> Interesting But what if the user say had like 700+ contacts 
> to "send too" and the exchnage system returned an error about 
> over limit...too many
> 
> bill
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Distribution List
> 
> 
> Lazy man's way. Export SMTP addresses to a txt file. Cut and 
> paste to the BCC in Outlook. Done.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: MS Exchange Mailing List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 
> November 13, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Distribution List
> 
> 
> Greetings all... 
> I need to send an html newsletter to about 200 associates 
> external to the company. What is the easiest way to send such 
> a message without too much effort. Creating a distribution 
> list for this many contacts seems impractical. Is there a way 
> to import smtp addresses to a distribution list from an 
> external source such as a database? Would like to accomplish 
> this without buying extra software, if possible. Thanks for your help.
> 
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RE: Typical Settings

2001-11-13 Thread Crumbaker, Ron


That is what I am trying to find out.

I had someone point this out to me and now I see that Everyone is in
there.  However, when I try to remove it, it says it is inherited from
the parent.  I can't seem to remove it...if I remove it, will the users
still have access to their mailboxes, or do I need to add them each to
their own mailbox?

Thank you,

Thank you,

Ron Crumbaker, MCP
Network Specialist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MPD, Inc. -An Employee Owned Company
Office 270-685-6381
Fax 270-685-6212





-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Typical Settings


Everyone does not typically have allowed rights to mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Crumbaker, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Typical Settings


What are the typical settings on MailBox rights for users and admins on
E2k
SP1.
 
How can you remove Everyone from the list? 

Where can you change these setting?
 
Thank you,

Ron Crumbaker, MCP
Network Specialist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MPD, Inc. -An Employee Owned Company
Office 270-685-6381
Fax 270-685-6212



 

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Re: Hi

2001-11-13 Thread Missy Koslosky

We do wish you would.  Someone who sees the future, and is willing to
speculate (you've been talking about telephony & handhelds for at least
three years now) on what the future of messaging holds, would be great!

M
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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Hi


Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC.  I'm more of an
Exchange fan than they are . . .



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RE: Typical Settings

2001-11-13 Thread Webb, Andy

Everyone does not typically have allowed rights to mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Crumbaker, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Typical Settings


What are the typical settings on MailBox rights for users and admins on E2k
SP1.
 
How can you remove Everyone from the list? 

Where can you change these setting?
 
Thank you,

Ron Crumbaker, MCP
Network Specialist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MPD, Inc. -An Employee Owned Company
Office 270-685-6381
Fax 270-685-6212



 

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RE: Outlook File As

2001-11-13 Thread Webb, Andy

I believe Mr. Weber has been at MEC Europe.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook File As


Yes I meant Weber. Oops. Time for a break. Nicotine and Caffeine
- Original Message -
From: "Missy Koslosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook File As


> Weber, not Webb.
>
> It's Kim's job to track Mr. Webb.
>
> Unless you're talking about Dean.  Different Webb.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tony Hlabse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Outlook File As
>
>
> Where has Mr. Webb been lately? Comdex?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Missy Koslosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Outlook File As
>
>
> > Check out Wrox's book "Professional CDO Programming".  Our own Mr. 
> > Weber
> is
> > one of the authors.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:41 AM
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know a good book on CDO.  Something easy but has good 
> > info
in
> it
> > too.  I went to cdolive.com and they had like 25 books on CDO.  Not 
> > sure which one to use.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rich
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Collaboration Data Objects.
> >
> > Hey, if you haven't heard of it, this Internet thingy is soo cool -
there
> > are even search sites that you can use.
> >
> > Sheesh.  Google hit it almost immediately.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Sorry but you might laugh at me but what does CDO stand for.  OOO I 
> > m
> going
> > to hear from this one.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:42 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> > www.cdolive.com
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mr Louis Joyce
> > Computer Support Analyst
> > Network Administrator
> > BT Ignite eSolutions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 13 November 2001 15:34
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > CDO is a scripting interface, not a place.
> >
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:41 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually I didn't go to CDO I went to slipstick woops
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:38 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> > >
> > > You sure that works with outlook 2000.  I went to CDO and used the 
> > > script and it gave me a runtime error. -Original
> > > Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:26 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> > >
> > > Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.
> > >
> > > 1. Write a script in CDO
> > > 2. Assign it to a button
> > > 3. Click button.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > --
> > > Chris Scharff
> > > Senior Sales Engineer
> > > MessageOne
> > > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Outlook File As
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How To:
> > > >   Have Outlook 2000 File everything as last name, 
> > > > first name, company without going to every single contact and
> > > changing it in
> > > > the file as box.  Is there a way to change this with one click 
> > > > of a button for a public contact folder that contains contacts.
> > >
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Re: Outlook File As

2001-11-13 Thread Tony Hlabse

Yes I meant Weber. Oops. Time for a break. Nicotine and Caffeine
- Original Message -
From: "Missy Koslosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook File As


> Weber, not Webb.
>
> It's Kim's job to track Mr. Webb.
>
> Unless you're talking about Dean.  Different Webb.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tony Hlabse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Outlook File As
>
>
> Where has Mr. Webb been lately? Comdex?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Missy Koslosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Outlook File As
>
>
> > Check out Wrox's book "Professional CDO Programming".  Our own Mr. Weber
> is
> > one of the authors.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:41 AM
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know a good book on CDO.  Something easy but has good info
in
> it
> > too.  I went to cdolive.com and they had like 25 books on CDO.  Not sure
> > which one to use.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rich
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Collaboration Data Objects.
> >
> > Hey, if you haven't heard of it, this Internet thingy is soo cool -
there
> > are even search sites that you can use.
> >
> > Sheesh.  Google hit it almost immediately.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Sorry but you might laugh at me but what does CDO stand for.  OOO I m
> going
> > to hear from this one.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:42 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> > www.cdolive.com
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mr Louis Joyce
> > Computer Support Analyst
> > Network Administrator
> > BT Ignite eSolutions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 13 November 2001 15:34
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > CDO is a scripting interface, not a place.
> >
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:41 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually I didn't go to CDO I went to slipstick woops
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:38 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> > >
> > > You sure that works with outlook 2000.  I went to CDO and
> > > used the script and it gave me a runtime error. -Original
> > > Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:26 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> > >
> > > Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.
> > >
> > > 1. Write a script in CDO
> > > 2. Assign it to a button
> > > 3. Click button.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > --
> > > Chris Scharff
> > > Senior Sales Engineer
> > > MessageOne
> > > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Outlook File As
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How To:
> > > >   Have Outlook 2000 File everything as last name, first
> > > > name, company without going to every single contact and
> > > changing it in
> > > > the file as box.  Is there a way to change this with one click of a
> > > > button for a public contact folder that contains contacts.
> > >
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Typical Settings

2001-11-13 Thread Crumbaker, Ron

What are the typical settings on MailBox rights for users and admins on
E2k SP1.
 
How can you remove Everyone from the list? 

Where can you change these setting?
 
Thank you,

Ron Crumbaker, MCP
Network Specialist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MPD, Inc. -An Employee Owned Company
Office 270-685-6381
Fax 270-685-6212



 

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RE: Read-only mailbox

2001-11-13 Thread Stephen Mynhier

1. Set everyone up with their own mailbox
2. Set up a Prohibit Send and Receive of 0 kb
3. Hide mailbox from address book
4. Remove the SMTP address
5. Set up Public Folder 
6. Allow users to log into Outlook with their crippled mailboxes and access
the Public Folders.  They should still be able to use the Calendaring
features, if needed.

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 11/13/01 12:57 PM
Subject: RE: Read-only mailbox

Doesn't meet the requirements. To access the PF they have to have
Outlook
and a mailbox. If they have a mailbox, then they can send. Unless they
test
my solution first. But that would be redundant/an extra step. Not that
I'm
poking holes in your suggestion, I'm just playing Andy's Advocate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Read-only mailbox


set up a public folder, give the user read-only rights to the public
folder.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"Drug tests have no place in American society. The tests invade the
privacy
of the innocent and are easily evaded by the malcontent. They are a
waste of
time and money and are an insult to liberty." -- Dean Webb

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of WAISEL, HAROLD B
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Read-only mailbox


Is it possible to give a person a "read-only" mailbox?  We have a
business
unit who'd like to be able to send notifications to people, but not
allow
them to send anything out.  We don't have OWA, so I don't believe
Anonymous
access to a public folder can apply.  I suggested using a web page for
announcements, but I was asked to follow up on this first.

I tried setting the Outgoing Message size limit to 0 kb on the "Limits"
tab
in Exch Admin, but that didn't seem to work.  I was still able to send a
message.

Exchange 5.5, SP4
Outlook 2000

Thanks,

Harold B Waisel
Messaging and Collaborative Computing
FleetBoston Financial
617.434.4201 (w)
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RE: Hi

2001-11-13 Thread Black, Nathan

A book by you on this would sell.

I want it to keep going.  You should do weekly installments on the history
of Microsoft Messaging platforms.  

Nathan

> -Original Message-
> From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Hi
> 
> 
> Ok (and for Darcy too).
> 
> So let's talk about the Outlook Disaster first, since that 
> has a lot of old
> time stuff and it is a perfect segue into the problems we face keeping
> Exchange moving forward.
> 
> So everyone knows the Exchange architecture at the 80,000 
> foot level, right?
> There is a store, rules engine, and an MTA on the server, 
> with a bunch of
> services connectors.  The GAL is now a redirector to the AD.  
> On the client
> side you have a MAPI services layer that is a part of WOSA 
> and can support
> any U/I or client for things like messaging, calendar and 
> directory - yes?
> Ok, back in the beginning, the Exchange team built all of 
> these pieces.
> Every last one of them, and was trying to keep them architecturally
> consistent.  They did some things better than others.  One of 
> the teams weak
> points was in extending the core services with tools for 
> doing workgroup
> stuff.  They/we understood that we didn't want to copy Notes with its
> relatively closed view of the world (think Notes documents).  Somehow
> Exchange needed to make it possible for Office and really any 
> application to
> work well in a collaborative way.  
> 
> Ok, knowing that and doing it are two different things. The 
> Exchange team
> had its hands full and was not doing all that great with its workgroup
> tools.  There was an EDK (Exchange development kit), but it 
> was not very
> well developed.  Ok, David Goodhand (did I spell that right?) 
> anyway, David
> was really sharp about what needed to happen, but he got his 
> funding from
> the Office crew.  So, totally independently from the Exchange 
> team, David
> got the funding to develop a whole new client system - Outlook.  As a
> messaging tool it was a piece of crap, and quite poor relative to the
> Exchange client (Capone), but as a workgroup tool it was night and day
> better.  But the real problem was Microsoft was not working 
> as a team.  They
> were quite viciously competing with themselves.  It got so 
> bad that only two
> weeks after Exchange 4.0 went RTM, the Office group released 
> a press story
> titled "Microsoft Gets a Whole New Outlook" and started with 
> words to the
> effect that 'Microsoft was dumping Exchange and replacing it 
> with Outlook .
> . .'  It was a PR disaster of course, because nobody outside 
> of the Exchange
> developers and beta testers understood that Exchange the 
> server and Exchange
> the client were two different things and that the client was 
> two things and
> that MAPI and Exchange server were not going any place.  
> Plus, you had the
> Capone team that felt like they had been stabbed in the back 
> by their own
> company, which they had.  Well, over the months that 
> followed, we gradually
> picked up the pieces and went on.
> 
> The story is worth telling because the underlying 
> organizational and vision
> management problems that led to the Outlook Disaster still 
> persist.  Who can
> concisely describe Microsoft's strategy for the following"
>   - messaging
>   - telephony
>   - high mobility platforms
>   - embedded appliance servers
> 
> There are others, but these four serve to make the point.  In 
> quite a few
> key areas Microsoft has multiple and inherently conflicted 
> strategies, and
> some of the ones that they like the best are in deep denial 
> with long term
> technical trends.  Bill and Steve have built a culture that depends on
> vigorous internal competition.  Some of it is healthy and 
> some of it isn't.
> Certainly their famous sense of paranoia has kept them ahead 
> of most of
> their competitors.  But, it also has created a situation in which key
> decisions sometimes get made based on who has the most 
> political clout or
> who shouts the loudest.  This makes them just as susceptible 
> the Christensen
> problem (read "The Innovator's Dilemma" by Clayton 
> Christensen) as anyone
> else.
> 
> Microsoft has several serious problems relative to Exchange, 
> and most of
> them have been there since the beginning.  They portable 
> calendar solution
> is terrible.  Pegasus (the HPC 1.0 version of the CE 
> platform) shipped in
> 1996 eight months after Exchange.  It's their mobile personal 
> calendar for
> enterprise customers - right?  Ok, so why is it that it can't 
> synch directly
> to the store, even today, five years later?
> 
> NetMeeting 1.0 shipped way back then as well.  So why can't their CE
> platforms talk to it?  The directory team left the Exchange 
> team and joined
> the NT group to build the AD in 1996.  So why is the 
> NetMeeting ILS still
> not integrated?  DEN/CIM was proposed with Cisco in 1997

RE: Conference Rooms and such...

2001-11-13 Thread Hunter, Lori

Mr. Strong's script has no such limitation on how you address the resources.
Optional, required, resource, whatever - it all works a treat.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Devin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conference Rooms and such...


Yep...  that the Q article that I had seen this past weekend.

Thanks a bunch for everyone's help, I really appreciate it.

I still have a couple of questions, so I hope I'm not drumming on a subject
that's been talked to death here.

I've gone ahead and set the default permissions to None, as suggested.  Of
course with that set as such, when selecting "Attendees and Resources" while
creating a meeting request, they cannot drop a conference room in to the
resource.  When they try a dialog box appears stating they do not have the
proper permissions to do so and that they must use the "Required" or
"Optional" boxes.

The problem here though is that using anything other then the "Resource" box
for the conference room will not fire the auto-accept response.  It will
just sit there in the conference room's inbox.

My question is...  is it a safe assumption that to get this to work with
only "Required" or "Optional" that I would need Robert Strong's AutoAccept
script form ExchangeCode?  i.e. -- I cannot use the resource booking script
from Outlook2000.

Thanks again for your time.

-KHD

-- 
Kevin H. Devin
IT Systems Administrator
Alerton Technologies, Inc.
Redmond, WA



-Original Message-
From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conference Rooms and such...


See also Q246866

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conference Rooms and such...


Yes, Lori Hunter must have the day off or she would be right in here :)

{Playing the part of Lori Hunter in tonight's performance will be Ken
Powell}

In short, DON'T ALLOW DIRECT BOOKING IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE THE AUTOACCEPT
SCRIPT Allow ONLY Reviewer access if they need to get into the calendar.
If they complain, tell them that they can not have it both ways and to stop
whining.

{How did I do Lori?}

I just got finished fighting this last week. This has been discussed at
quite some length in the last couple of weeks. A search on "auto accept"
should lead you to it.

The following TechNet articles will show you what I needed to do to correct
it. Q281935 and Q289606.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Devin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:38 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Conference Rooms and such...

This past weekend I stumbled across a piece of information that stated that
users should not be allowed to view a resources calendar by doing a "File /
Open / Other User's Folder" as it could break the auto-acceptance and cause
corruption.  This bit of info also included steps to prevent this from
happening while leaving the remaining functionality intact.

The problem is...  I can't remember where I seen this info.  I have gone
through the FAQ, the archives, and TechNet, but am unable to re-locate this
info.  Would anyone have a clue as to what I'm referring to and point me in
the right direction?  I would greatly appreciate it.

-KHD

-- 
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IT Systems Administrator
Alerton Technologies, Inc.

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RE: Conference Rooms and such...

2001-11-13 Thread Kevin Devin

Yep...  that the Q article that I had seen this past weekend.

Thanks a bunch for everyone's help, I really appreciate it.

I still have a couple of questions, so I hope I'm not drumming on a subject
that's been talked to death here.

I've gone ahead and set the default permissions to None, as suggested.  Of
course with that set as such, when selecting "Attendees and Resources" while
creating a meeting request, they cannot drop a conference room in to the
resource.  When they try a dialog box appears stating they do not have the
proper permissions to do so and that they must use the "Required" or
"Optional" boxes.

The problem here though is that using anything other then the "Resource" box
for the conference room will not fire the auto-accept response.  It will
just sit there in the conference room's inbox.

My question is...  is it a safe assumption that to get this to work with
only "Required" or "Optional" that I would need Robert Strong's AutoAccept
script form ExchangeCode?  i.e. -- I cannot use the resource booking script
from Outlook2000.

Thanks again for your time.

-KHD

-- 
Kevin H. Devin
IT Systems Administrator
Alerton Technologies, Inc.
Redmond, WA



-Original Message-
From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conference Rooms and such...


See also Q246866

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conference Rooms and such...


Yes, Lori Hunter must have the day off or she would be right in here :)

{Playing the part of Lori Hunter in tonight's performance will be Ken
Powell}

In short, DON'T ALLOW DIRECT BOOKING IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE THE AUTOACCEPT
SCRIPT Allow ONLY Reviewer access if they need to get into the calendar.
If they complain, tell them that they can not have it both ways and to stop
whining.

{How did I do Lori?}

I just got finished fighting this last week. This has been discussed at
quite some length in the last couple of weeks. A search on "auto accept"
should lead you to it.

The following TechNet articles will show you what I needed to do to correct
it. Q281935 and Q289606.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Devin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:38 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Conference Rooms and such...

This past weekend I stumbled across a piece of information that stated that
users should not be allowed to view a resources calendar by doing a "File /
Open / Other User's Folder" as it could break the auto-acceptance and cause
corruption.  This bit of info also included steps to prevent this from
happening while leaving the remaining functionality intact.

The problem is...  I can't remember where I seen this info.  I have gone
through the FAQ, the archives, and TechNet, but am unable to re-locate this
info.  Would anyone have a clue as to what I'm referring to and point me in
the right direction?  I would greatly appreciate it.

-KHD

-- 
Kevin H. Devin
IT Systems Administrator
Alerton Technologies, Inc.

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RE: Hi

2001-11-13 Thread Andy David

Wow. I had forgotten how much you could pack into one post!
Thanks Craig, very interesting...



-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


Ok (and for Darcy too).

So let's talk about the Outlook Disaster first, since that has a lot of old
time stuff and it is a perfect segue into the problems we face keeping
Exchange moving forward.

So everyone knows the Exchange architecture at the 80,000 foot level, right?
There is a store, rules engine, and an MTA on the server, with a bunch of
services connectors.  The GAL is now a redirector to the AD.  On the client
side you have a MAPI services layer that is a part of WOSA and can support
any U/I or client for things like messaging, calendar and directory - yes?
Ok, back in the beginning, the Exchange team built all of these pieces.
Every last one of them, and was trying to keep them architecturally
consistent.  They did some things better than others.  One of the teams weak
points was in extending the core services with tools for doing workgroup
stuff.  They/we understood that we didn't want to copy Notes with its
relatively closed view of the world (think Notes documents).  Somehow
Exchange needed to make it possible for Office and really any application to
work well in a collaborative way.  

Ok, knowing that and doing it are two different things. The Exchange team
had its hands full and was not doing all that great with its workgroup
tools.  There was an EDK (Exchange development kit), but it was not very
well developed.  Ok, David Goodhand (did I spell that right?) anyway, David
was really sharp about what needed to happen, but he got his funding from
the Office crew.  So, totally independently from the Exchange team, David
got the funding to develop a whole new client system - Outlook.  As a
messaging tool it was a piece of crap, and quite poor relative to the
Exchange client (Capone), but as a workgroup tool it was night and day
better.  But the real problem was Microsoft was not working as a team.  They
were quite viciously competing with themselves.  It got so bad that only two
weeks after Exchange 4.0 went RTM, the Office group released a press story
titled "Microsoft Gets a Whole New Outlook" and started with words to the
effect that 'Microsoft was dumping Exchange and replacing it with Outlook .
. .'  It was a PR disaster of course, because nobody outside of the Exchange
developers and beta testers understood that Exchange the server and Exchange
the client were two different things and that the client was two things and
that MAPI and Exchange server were not going any place.  Plus, you had the
Capone team that felt like they had been stabbed in the back by their own
company, which they had.  Well, over the months that followed, we gradually
picked up the pieces and went on.

The story is worth telling because the underlying organizational and vision
management problems that led to the Outlook Disaster still persist.  Who can
concisely describe Microsoft's strategy for the following"
- messaging
- telephony
- high mobility platforms
- embedded appliance servers

There are others, but these four serve to make the point.  In quite a few
key areas Microsoft has multiple and inherently conflicted strategies, and
some of the ones that they like the best are in deep denial with long term
technical trends.  Bill and Steve have built a culture that depends on
vigorous internal competition.  Some of it is healthy and some of it isn't.
Certainly their famous sense of paranoia has kept them ahead of most of
their competitors.  But, it also has created a situation in which key
decisions sometimes get made based on who has the most political clout or
who shouts the loudest.  This makes them just as susceptible the Christensen
problem (read "The Innovator's Dilemma" by Clayton Christensen) as anyone
else.

Microsoft has several serious problems relative to Exchange, and most of
them have been there since the beginning.  They portable calendar solution
is terrible.  Pegasus (the HPC 1.0 version of the CE platform) shipped in
1996 eight months after Exchange.  It's their mobile personal calendar for
enterprise customers - right?  Ok, so why is it that it can't synch directly
to the store, even today, five years later?

NetMeeting 1.0 shipped way back then as well.  So why can't their CE
platforms talk to it?  The directory team left the Exchange team and joined
the NT group to build the AD in 1996.  So why is the NetMeeting ILS still
not integrated?  DEN/CIM was proposed with Cisco in 1997, so why can't a
MAPI client do a directory lookup on the MAC address of the last device
someone used for a NetMeeting session, or an Exchange session?  Why isn't
the data storable in a meaningful way in one of the "tools" menus in Outlook
and OWA (stored in the store of course)  (think of them as an attribute page
of "devices in my life

RE: Hi

2001-11-13 Thread Dupler, Craig

Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC.  I'm more of an
Exchange fan than they are . . .



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RE: Hi

2001-11-13 Thread Dupler, Craig

Ok (and for Darcy too).

So let's talk about the Outlook Disaster first, since that has a lot of old
time stuff and it is a perfect segue into the problems we face keeping
Exchange moving forward.

So everyone knows the Exchange architecture at the 80,000 foot level, right?
There is a store, rules engine, and an MTA on the server, with a bunch of
services connectors.  The GAL is now a redirector to the AD.  On the client
side you have a MAPI services layer that is a part of WOSA and can support
any U/I or client for things like messaging, calendar and directory - yes?
Ok, back in the beginning, the Exchange team built all of these pieces.
Every last one of them, and was trying to keep them architecturally
consistent.  They did some things better than others.  One of the teams weak
points was in extending the core services with tools for doing workgroup
stuff.  They/we understood that we didn't want to copy Notes with its
relatively closed view of the world (think Notes documents).  Somehow
Exchange needed to make it possible for Office and really any application to
work well in a collaborative way.  

Ok, knowing that and doing it are two different things. The Exchange team
had its hands full and was not doing all that great with its workgroup
tools.  There was an EDK (Exchange development kit), but it was not very
well developed.  Ok, David Goodhand (did I spell that right?) anyway, David
was really sharp about what needed to happen, but he got his funding from
the Office crew.  So, totally independently from the Exchange team, David
got the funding to develop a whole new client system - Outlook.  As a
messaging tool it was a piece of crap, and quite poor relative to the
Exchange client (Capone), but as a workgroup tool it was night and day
better.  But the real problem was Microsoft was not working as a team.  They
were quite viciously competing with themselves.  It got so bad that only two
weeks after Exchange 4.0 went RTM, the Office group released a press story
titled "Microsoft Gets a Whole New Outlook" and started with words to the
effect that 'Microsoft was dumping Exchange and replacing it with Outlook .
. .'  It was a PR disaster of course, because nobody outside of the Exchange
developers and beta testers understood that Exchange the server and Exchange
the client were two different things and that the client was two things and
that MAPI and Exchange server were not going any place.  Plus, you had the
Capone team that felt like they had been stabbed in the back by their own
company, which they had.  Well, over the months that followed, we gradually
picked up the pieces and went on.

The story is worth telling because the underlying organizational and vision
management problems that led to the Outlook Disaster still persist.  Who can
concisely describe Microsoft's strategy for the following"
- messaging
- telephony
- high mobility platforms
- embedded appliance servers

There are others, but these four serve to make the point.  In quite a few
key areas Microsoft has multiple and inherently conflicted strategies, and
some of the ones that they like the best are in deep denial with long term
technical trends.  Bill and Steve have built a culture that depends on
vigorous internal competition.  Some of it is healthy and some of it isn't.
Certainly their famous sense of paranoia has kept them ahead of most of
their competitors.  But, it also has created a situation in which key
decisions sometimes get made based on who has the most political clout or
who shouts the loudest.  This makes them just as susceptible the Christensen
problem (read "The Innovator's Dilemma" by Clayton Christensen) as anyone
else.

Microsoft has several serious problems relative to Exchange, and most of
them have been there since the beginning.  They portable calendar solution
is terrible.  Pegasus (the HPC 1.0 version of the CE platform) shipped in
1996 eight months after Exchange.  It's their mobile personal calendar for
enterprise customers - right?  Ok, so why is it that it can't synch directly
to the store, even today, five years later?

NetMeeting 1.0 shipped way back then as well.  So why can't their CE
platforms talk to it?  The directory team left the Exchange team and joined
the NT group to build the AD in 1996.  So why is the NetMeeting ILS still
not integrated?  DEN/CIM was proposed with Cisco in 1997, so why can't a
MAPI client do a directory lookup on the MAC address of the last device
someone used for a NetMeeting session, or an Exchange session?  Why isn't
the data storable in a meaningful way in one of the "tools" menus in Outlook
and OWA (stored in the store of course)  (think of them as an attribute page
of "devices in my life")?  Why can't the rules engine write messaging
handling, call forwarding and event notifications based on these objects?
[Cisco's Unity can do some of these things.]

These guys are drifting and nearly visionless, and well that comes close to
being cluel

RE: Distribution Lists

2001-11-13 Thread Doug Hampshire

BLAT - Access writes a report to a txt file. BLAT supports as part of its
command line specifing a txt file for the SMTP addresses. There are other
3rd party mailers as well. 

Access also supports export to CSV and XLS. Those can be imported into
Outlook.

You have several good suggestions. Take them, do some research [1] and which
one best suits your needs.

[1] Main Entry: re*search  
Pronunciation: ri-'s&rch, 'rE-"
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French recerche, from recerchier to investigate
thoroughly, from Old French, from re- + cerchier to search -- more at SEARCH
Date: 1577
1 : careful or diligent search
2 : studious inquiry or examination; especially : investigation or
experimentation aimed at the discovery and interpretation of facts, revision
of accepted theories or laws in the light of new facts, or practical
application of such new or revised theories or laws
3 : the collecting of information about a particular subject 

-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Distribution Lists


Greetings again all...

Some comments from your suggestions on my Distribution Lists question:

-Mail merge with Word does not send HTML mail.  It converts it to plain
text.  I don't know if it will convert if sent as an attachment, but I don't
want to send an attachment. -I need to import addresses from an external
database (Access).  I don't see how to import names to a distribution list
in the GAL or elsewhere from sources like these.  Only see things like
importing from Outlook Express. -Copy and paste into the BCC is a good idea,
but I anticipate my list growing.  What if I can't paste all those.  I also
looked at Blat and it doesn't seem to have external database file access.

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RE: Outlook File As

2001-11-13 Thread Andy David

>>>Different Webb

That's an understatement!



-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook File As


Weber, not Webb.

It's Kim's job to track Mr. Webb.

Unless you're talking about Dean.  Different Webb.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tony Hlabse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook File As


Where has Mr. Webb been lately? Comdex?

- Original Message -
From: "Missy Koslosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook File As


> Check out Wrox's book "Professional CDO Programming".  Our own Mr. Weber
is
> one of the authors.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
>
> Does anyone know a good book on CDO.  Something easy but has good info in
it
> too.  I went to cdolive.com and they had like 25 books on CDO.  Not sure
> which one to use.
>
> Thanks
> Rich
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Outlook File As
>
>
> Collaboration Data Objects.
>
> Hey, if you haven't heard of it, this Internet thingy is soo cool - there
> are even search sites that you can use.
>
> Sheesh.  Google hit it almost immediately.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:52 AM
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
>
> Sorry but you might laugh at me but what does CDO stand for.  OOO I m
going
> to hear from this one.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
> www.cdolive.com
>
> Regards
>
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Computer Support Analyst
> Network Administrator
> BT Ignite eSolutions
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 13 November 2001 15:34
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
>
> CDO is a scripting interface, not a place.
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage!
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:41 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Actually I didn't go to CDO I went to slipstick woops
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:38 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> > You sure that works with outlook 2000.  I went to CDO and
> > used the script and it gave me a runtime error. -Original
> > Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:26 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> > Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.
> >
> > 1. Write a script in CDO
> > 2. Assign it to a button
> > 3. Click button.
> >
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Outlook File As
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How To:
> > >   Have Outlook 2000 File everything as last name, first
> > > name, company without going to every single contact and
> > changing it in
> > > the file as box.  Is there a way to change this with one click of a
> > > button for a public contact folder that contains contacts.
> >
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RE: Outlook File As

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier

Mr. Webb and Mr. Weber can be confused if you index on the first three
letters of the last name.  Other than that, they're pretty difficult to
confuse.  (I know; I've tried to confuse both of them)

> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:46 PM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Outlook File As
> Subject: Re: Outlook File As
> 
> 
> Where has Mr. Webb been lately? Comdex?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Missy Koslosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Outlook File As
> 
> 
> > Check out Wrox's book "Professional CDO Programming".  Our 
> own Mr. Weber
> is
> > one of the authors.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:41 AM
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know a good book on CDO.  Something easy but 
> has good info in
> it
> > too.  I went to cdolive.com and they had like 25 books on 
> CDO.  Not sure
> > which one to use.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rich
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Collaboration Data Objects.
> >
> > Hey, if you haven't heard of it, this Internet thingy is 
> soo cool - there
> > are even search sites that you can use.
> >
> > Sheesh.  Google hit it almost immediately.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Sorry but you might laugh at me but what does CDO stand 
> for.  OOO I m
> going
> > to hear from this one.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:42 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> > www.cdolive.com
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mr Louis Joyce
> > Computer Support Analyst
> > Network Administrator
> > BT Ignite eSolutions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 13 November 2001 15:34
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > CDO is a scripting interface, not a place.
> >
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:41 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually I didn't go to CDO I went to slipstick woops
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:38 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> > >
> > > You sure that works with outlook 2000.  I went to CDO and
> > > used the script and it gave me a runtime error. -Original
> > > Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:26 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> > >
> > > Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.
> > >
> > > 1. Write a script in CDO
> > > 2. Assign it to a button
> > > 3. Click button.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > --
> > > Chris Scharff
> > > Senior Sales Engineer
> > > MessageOne
> > > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Outlook File As
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How To:
> > > >   Have Outlook 2000 File everything as last 
> name, first
> > > > name, company without going to every single contact and
> > > changing it in
> > > > the file as box.  Is there a way to change this with 
> one click of a
> > > > button for a public contact folder that contains contacts.
> > >
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Re: Outlook File As

2001-11-13 Thread Missy Koslosky

Weber, not Webb.

It's Kim's job to track Mr. Webb.

Unless you're talking about Dean.  Different Webb.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tony Hlabse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook File As


Where has Mr. Webb been lately? Comdex?

- Original Message -
From: "Missy Koslosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook File As


> Check out Wrox's book "Professional CDO Programming".  Our own Mr. Weber
is
> one of the authors.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
>
> Does anyone know a good book on CDO.  Something easy but has good info in
it
> too.  I went to cdolive.com and they had like 25 books on CDO.  Not sure
> which one to use.
>
> Thanks
> Rich
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Outlook File As
>
>
> Collaboration Data Objects.
>
> Hey, if you haven't heard of it, this Internet thingy is soo cool - there
> are even search sites that you can use.
>
> Sheesh.  Google hit it almost immediately.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:52 AM
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
>
> Sorry but you might laugh at me but what does CDO stand for.  OOO I m
going
> to hear from this one.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
> www.cdolive.com
>
> Regards
>
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Computer Support Analyst
> Network Administrator
> BT Ignite eSolutions
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 13 November 2001 15:34
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook File As
>
>
> CDO is a scripting interface, not a place.
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage!
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:41 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> >
> > Actually I didn't go to CDO I went to slipstick woops
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:38 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> > You sure that works with outlook 2000.  I went to CDO and
> > used the script and it gave me a runtime error. -Original
> > Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:26 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook File As
> >
> > Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.
> >
> > 1. Write a script in CDO
> > 2. Assign it to a button
> > 3. Click button.
> >
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Outlook File As
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How To:
> > >   Have Outlook 2000 File everything as last name, first
> > > name, company without going to every single contact and
> > changing it in
> > > the file as box.  Is there a way to change this with one click of a
> > > button for a public contact folder that contains contacts.
> >
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Distribution Lists

2001-11-13 Thread MS Exchange Mailing List

Greetings again all...

Some comments from your suggestions on my Distribution Lists question:

-Mail merge with Word does not send HTML mail.  It converts it to plain
text.  I don't know if it will convert if sent as an attachment, but I
don't want to send an attachment.
-I need to import addresses from an external database (Access).  I don't
see how to import names to a distribution list in the GAL or elsewhere
from sources like these.  Only see things like importing from Outlook
Express.
-Copy and paste into the BCC is a good idea, but I anticipate my list
growing.  What if I can't paste all those.  I also looked at Blat and it
doesn't seem to have external database file access.

Thanks for you attention.


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RE: Domain Issue

2001-11-13 Thread Andy David

If clients on Domain B cant access anything on Domain A, then you do not
have only have one box "experiencing this". 
Assuming the network connection is ok, have you checked to make sure you do
not have any screwy WINS entries and that the PDCs are healthy? What are the
exact error messages in the Event Logs?



-Original Message-
From: Roger Queen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Domain Issue


Thanks but this happens on the PDC in Domain A and we are only running
TCP/IP.  Not sure why this box is the only one experiencing this. 

Roger




-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Domain Issue

Sounds like a network issue. Does this happens when you first launch the
client. If so it may be a stack issue of which protocol is first being used.
TCPIP should be first.


- Original Message -
From: "Roger Queen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:00 PM
Subject: Domain Issue


> I have a situation that may or may not be an exchange issue.  I have
> Domain A and Domain B with a two way trust.  All of a sudden the users on
> Domain B can not access the exchange box on domain A. You can browse the
> network and see the exchange server but when you attempt to see the shares
> you get a message stting that no login server was available to validate
> the logon.  Any help.
>
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ADC question

2001-11-13 Thread Jeremy Pinquist

I've started the great evil upgrade, and I already ran into a problem.
During a mostly successful AD/5.5 ADC replication, a number of users came
back with the 8285 error:

e.g.
"ADC will not replicate from
cn=blah.blah,cn=Recipients,ou=domain,o=Juilliard to
CN=0279733,OU=Students,DC=lab,DC=juilliard,DC=edu because both objects are
not mailbox enabled. The source object is a mailbox. The target object is
either a Contact or a mail enabled user. If this is a problem, consider
making the Connection Agreement an Inter-Organizational Connection
Agreement.  (Connection Agreement 'lab' #1632) 

Well, of course it's a problem - but i can't make it an Inter-organizational
CA, since i already have other intra-org ca's working.

A search on the KB brought up a number of attributes MS claims should be
"removed."  I assume they are talking about any data for the affected users
that falls under these attributes, not the attributes themselves.  What sort
of program would I use to do this? LDIFDE? Is there any better way? Why are
these users mail-enabled and not mailbox-enabled in the first place?  I
can't see any pattern between them vs. the users that worked ok...

Jeremy

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RE: Please help with SMTP routing issue

2001-11-13 Thread Soysal, Serdar

That's because your exchange thinks that it is the owner of mail.com domain.
Anything with a mail.com domain extension is assumed to be an internal user.
Exchange then tries to resolve the email address to a recipient and it fails
since there is no such user on the exchange side.  

Since you're moving away from sendmail, you may want to add a subdomain to
your clients defined only on the unix box such as unix.mail.com and then put
a routing statement in the Connections tab of IMS.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Craigster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Please help with SMTP routing issue


I need some help with an SMTP routing issue.  I have two separate mail
systems on the same LAN, migrating from UNIX sendmail to MS Exchange 5.5. 
Both systems are using the same "mail.com" domain for addressing.  For
example, both servers use addresses in the format "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Essentially, any incoming email is parsed through the UNIX Sendmail
bridgehead server aliases and distributed from there.  The UNIX server is
my domain MX.  My problem is this...every time I use SMTP from Exchange to
send an email to someone on the UNIX mail system ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", for
example) the exchange server returns the message as undeliverable (this
account only exists on the UNIX system, not on the Exchange server).  It
looks at itself for "mail.com" accounts, I am guessing, and for some
reason doesn't then go out and use the MX for the domain to send the
message to my UNIX bridgehead server.  Using Exchange RPC or OWA works
without a problem, but SMTP messages don't reach the UNIX machine.  Any
ideas???  Thanks people...

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Track why a bounce happens?

2001-11-13 Thread Fred W. Macondray Jr.

Hi All,

I have some of my users using our Exchange server as an smtp server for
POP mail while I migrate them to Exchange.  Occasionally someone gets a
bounce message for a known good address, and the MTA reports a failure.

How can I track down a detailed record of the bounce on the Exchange
server?  Is there a way to set up this type of logging on Exchange?

I'd like to be able to put in the email address in question and find a
log.

Thanks in advance,
Fred


Fred Macondray
Systems Administrator
Virtual Purchase Card, Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.virtualpurchasecard.com

-   "Guaranteed B2B Purchases"


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RE: E2K OWA with Exchange 5.5

2001-11-13 Thread Soysal, Serdar

No.

-Original Message-
From: Yeutter, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K OWA with Exchange 5.5


I Apologize if this has been asked before in some form.

We are currently in the process of migrating users from an NT 4.0 Domain to
a new Active Directory Domain.
We have an Exchange 5.5 sp3 site containing 4 servers in a resource domain.
Someone at a high level in IT has promised administration that we will have
the E2K version of OWA available. We are not yet in a position to upgrade
Exchange to E2K. 
My question is: Is there any way to use E2K OWA with a 5.5 site, like adding
an E2K server to the site?


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RE: Conference Rooms and such...

2001-11-13 Thread Sargent, Rob

See also Q246866

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conference Rooms and such...


Yes, Lori Hunter must have the day off or she would be right in here :)

{Playing the part of Lori Hunter in tonight's performance will be Ken
Powell}

In short, DON'T ALLOW DIRECT BOOKING IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE THE AUTOACCEPT
SCRIPT Allow ONLY Reviewer access if they need to get into the calendar.
If they complain, tell them that they can not have it both ways and to stop
whining.

{How did I do Lori?}

I just got finished fighting this last week. This has been discussed at
quite some length in the last couple of weeks. A search on "auto accept"
should lead you to it.

The following TechNet articles will show you what I needed to do to correct
it. Q281935 and Q289606.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Devin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:38 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Conference Rooms and such...

This past weekend I stumbled across a piece of information that stated that
users should not be allowed to view a resources calendar by doing a "File /
Open / Other User's Folder" as it could break the auto-acceptance and cause
corruption.  This bit of info also included steps to prevent this from
happening while leaving the remaining functionality intact.

The problem is...  I can't remember where I seen this info.  I have gone
through the FAQ, the archives, and TechNet, but am unable to re-locate this
info.  Would anyone have a clue as to what I'm referring to and point me in
the right direction?  I would greatly appreciate it.

-KHD

-- 
Kevin H. Devin
IT Systems Administrator
Alerton Technologies, Inc.

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Please help with SMTP routing issue

2001-11-13 Thread Craigster

I need some help with an SMTP routing issue.  I have two separate mail
systems on the same LAN, migrating from UNIX sendmail to MS Exchange 5.5. 
Both systems are using the same "mail.com" domain for addressing.  For
example, both servers use addresses in the format "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Essentially, any incoming email is parsed through the UNIX Sendmail
bridgehead server aliases and distributed from there.  The UNIX server is
my domain MX.  My problem is this...every time I use SMTP from Exchange to
send an email to someone on the UNIX mail system ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", for
example) the exchange server returns the message as undeliverable (this
account only exists on the UNIX system, not on the Exchange server).  It
looks at itself for "mail.com" accounts, I am guessing, and for some
reason doesn't then go out and use the MX for the domain to send the
message to my UNIX bridgehead server.  Using Exchange RPC or OWA works
without a problem, but SMTP messages don't reach the UNIX machine.  Any
ideas???  Thanks people...

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Disclaimers in Exchange 2000

2001-11-13 Thread scottmcw

I need to create outbound disclaimers for all messages leaving the
Exchange 2000 server.  I believe this need to be programmed in C++ for
this to work correctly.  Anyone have any suggestions on where I might find
something for free???

Also Delivery Restrictions in the SMTP connector do not appear to work at
all, anyone

TA

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