RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Waa Laa?  Would that be the Anglicization of voila?

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL


We typically copy the certification path to the web server, create a link on
the page to the path and let the clients install the path from there. Waa
Laa. No more annoying pop-up box.


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL


While I agree that 3rd-party certs are easier to install/manage, I would
strongly disagree with your assertion that "homegrown" certs can not be made
trusted. That is really not true at all. If you have your CA setup correctly
(no easy task, mind you), homebrews or imports taste the same to your
clients.

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
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Yesterday?  -anon


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Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

Both will work.  What you get with a third party cert is the assertion that
the server to which your clients are connecting is truly part of your domain
(i.e. traffic isn't being hijacked to a rogue server in order to steal
passwords, etc.)

With a cert from a homegrown server, your users will always get a message
when they connect to your OWA server that the cert cannot be verified.  The
server is effectively saying "give me your password, please.  You can trust
me because I say I can be trusted.  Here's proof that I generated that says
I can be trusted."  Users can be trained to ignore the cert error.

In my opinion it's not as clean of an implementation and the $700 for a
third party cert is justified.


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> I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL.  I have
> a stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
> domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the
> 2000 server or
> can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?
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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
We typically copy the certification path to the web server, create a link on
the page to the path and let the clients install the path from there. Waa
Laa. No more annoying pop-up box.


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL


While I agree that 3rd-party certs are easier to install/manage, I would
strongly disagree with your assertion that "homegrown" certs can not be made
trusted. That is really not true at all. If you have your CA setup correctly
(no easy task, mind you), homebrews or imports taste the same to your
clients.

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
www.akomolafe.com
www.iyaburo.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:40 AM
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Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

Both will work.  What you get with a third party cert is the assertion that
the server to which your clients are connecting is truly part of your domain
(i.e. traffic isn't being hijacked to a rogue server in order to steal
passwords, etc.)

With a cert from a homegrown server, your users will always get a message
when they connect to your OWA server that the cert cannot be verified.  The
server is effectively saying "give me your password, please.  You can trust
me because I say I can be trusted.  Here's proof that I generated that says
I can be trusted."  Users can be trained to ignore the cert error.

In my opinion it's not as clean of an implementation and the $700 for a
third party cert is justified.


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> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:32 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL.  I have 
> a stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
> domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the
> 2000 server or
> can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?
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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread deji
While I agree that 3rd-party certs are easier to install/manage, I would
strongly disagree with your assertion that "homegrown" certs can not be made
trusted. That is really not true at all. If you have your CA setup correctly
(no easy task, mind you), homebrews or imports taste the same to your
clients.

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
www.akomolafe.com
www.iyaburo.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

Both will work.  What you get with a third party cert is the assertion that
the server to which your clients are connecting is truly part of your domain
(i.e. traffic isn't being hijacked to a rogue server in order to steal
passwords, etc.)

With a cert from a homegrown server, your users will always get a message
when they connect to your OWA server that the cert cannot be verified.  The
server is effectively saying "give me your password, please.  You can trust
me because I say I can be trusted.  Here's proof that I generated that says
I
can be trusted."  Users can be trained to ignore the cert error.

In my opinion it's not as clean of an implementation and the $700 for a
third
party cert is justified.


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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:32 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL.
>  I have a
> stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
> domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the
> 2000 server or
> can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?
>
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RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread deji
No you don't.

You ForestPrep and Domain when you are introducing W2K3 DC INTO a W2K
Forest/Domain. With what you are intending to do, all you need is just
dcpromo the "downlevel" Win2K. Win2K = "downlevel", can't resist that!!!

Side note: IF you are already W2K3, why are you bringing a W2K DC into the
MIX? Just curious.

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Subject: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

All I have a question about the installation of a windows 2000 server that
will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 forest. Before I do a
dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest and domain do I need to
run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all is updated to the new 2003
schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its course. I
know I have to do forestprep when I install exchange but am not sure if I
need to prepare the 2000 server before I bring it into AD. Any help is
appreciated.
Thanks In Advance
Ronk

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RE: Duplicate Entries listed in Address Book...

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Do they have Fax entries for those duplicate contacts? 
If so, that's by design.



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I imported an excel document to my "contacts" folder in outlook and when i
click on the "contacts" folder, everything is listed only once.  However,
when i click on the address book and select my "contacts" folder,
everything's liste twice (Duplicate Entries).  Can somebody help me?

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Re: Moving Exchange Server 5.5

2003-06-13 Thread Martin Tuip [MVP]
Check http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm

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> I am not an Exchange Admin, but we are moving exchange to another server.
> Do i treat it like a restore or could someone point me in the right
> direction? I have online backsups of both DS/IS stores. Is it just
> installing exchange on the new server and restore everything from backup?
>
> Thank You
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RE: Duplicate Entries listed in Address Book...

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Does each contact have two e-mail addresses?  Delete one from each if they
do.

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I imported an excel document to my "contacts" folder in outlook and when i
click on the "contacts" folder, everything is listed only once.  However,
when i click on the address book and select my "contacts" folder,
everything's liste twice (Duplicate Entries).  Can somebody help me?

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Duplicate Entries listed in Address Book...

2003-06-13 Thread Marvin . Sampilo
I imported an excel document to my "contacts" folder in outlook and when i
click on the "contacts" folder, everything is listed only once.  However,
when i click on the address book and select my "contacts" folder,
everything's liste twice (Duplicate Entries).  Can somebody help me?

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RE: remote mail options

2003-06-13 Thread Guy Swartwood
As my company does use SBS Exchange, I can verify that POP and IMAP is
supported.

Guy Swartwood
Kopatich Enterprises

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Subject: RE: remote mail options


I am not sure about SBS but standard Exchange supports POP and IMAP
(which I
would recommend above POP) clients, but do realize that neither supports
full Outlook function.  Just set them up.  Refer to the FAQ referenced
below
for information on how to set up authentication.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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We have Exchange 2000 and use OWA (SBS2000). Is there any way to setup
Outlook to access exchage info remotely. Such as a POP type connection?
If a
computer is connected to an NT Domain (the remote office) and then
connects
to the SBS2000 server via VPN, can I then just plug in the exchange
server
info in Outlook? I know you cannot connect another Domain to SBS2000 but
was
wounder if there is a better way to access email from a "small" remote
office.

Thanks!

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RE: Moving Exchange Server 5.5

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
You should become an Exchange administrator before you attempt such a thing.
Here are two places to start on that endeavor (links may wrap):

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=69QHZZAUC
K&isbn=182133&itm=32
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=69QHZZAUC
K&isbn=0782125050&itm=37

Plus, here's a link to what I consider to be the easiest way to migrate a
server, even though I wouldn't suggest that a novice attempt it:

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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I am not an Exchange Admin, but we are moving exchange to another server. Do
i treat it like a restore or could someone point me in the right direction?
I have online backsups of both DS/IS stores. Is it just installing exchange
on the new server and restore everything from backup?

Thank You

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Moving Exchange Server 5.5

2003-06-13 Thread jazzy144
I am not an Exchange Admin, but we are moving exchange to another server.
Do i treat it like a restore or could someone point me in the right
direction? I have online backsups of both DS/IS stores. Is it just
installing exchange on the new server and restore everything from backup?

Thank You

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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Robert Moir
As Ken suggests, when MS say it is "by design", I don't think that means they are 
pleased with it and are trying to claim its a good thing and that if only you'd just 
shut up and drink the kool-aid you would think so too. 
 
Instead, I think they are trying to re-assure you that if you have this problem that 
its a limitation of the product that they are aware of, not something you are doing 
wrong in your implementation or use of it.
 
On my old 5.5 OWA deployment, users went to a "splash screen" homepage to our OWA 
system where they could read our email AUP, click a basic link on help with OWA, 
system requirements, etc. It strikes me that you could maybe do the same thing, and 
when you have the system down for maintenance you can replace the "normal" login page 
with a "sorry, we done broke the network, try again later" page.
 
Rob

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Cc: 
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.



Robert, thanks for the input, we are in the 1st phase of our 2k migration
project. Its just seems somehow bizarre that Microsoft designed it this way.
I guess I didn't make myself understood when I asked this question. So, thru
a notification email or some other means of notifying your users they know
that if one of you exchange servers went down that all of the remote users
were in effect blocked from using email till the server came back up.

john

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
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Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Well I work at an educational institution myself which may be bigger or
smaller than yours, I don't know and I don't think it matters. We dealt with
the problem by upgrading to Exchange 2000. Exchange 5.5 is what, six years
old now, and hasn't seen a lot of new development work since Exchange 2000
(itself 3 years old) was released. 

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Cc:
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
   
   

I agree with Ed myself, and it happens that way here as we are a
educational
institution and students come first. But its the idea that this has
affected
all of the campus's not just one group and I know I'm going to hear
about it
Monday( its the summer and allot of Professor's are on break).
So I just
tell them to suck it up and live with it, that this is the way it
was
designed. And they are going to ask me well how do other
institution's
bigger than our self handle this and I say they just suck it up...ya
right...
   
john
   
   
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Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
   
   
I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that
normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access
them.
If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut
down,
you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance
period
during which the users understand that services won't be available.
   
   
   
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they
> can upgrade
> the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me
> that is at PacBell
> (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers
> go offline for
> what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to
> wait till it
> comes backup.
>
> joh

RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
did your Eval version of MS Office 11 expire?

-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all items
in all folders older than a given date.

Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.

JC

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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Ken Cornetet
I don't think you understand what "by design" means in this context. What Microsoft is 
really telling you is: 

"Yes, we realize this is a problem, and although this is still "supported" software, 
we are not going to invest the effort to fix it."

-Original Message-
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Robert, thanks for the input, we are in the 1st phase of our 2k migration project. Its 
just seems somehow bizarre that Microsoft designed it this way. I guess I didn't make 
myself understood when I asked this question. So, thru a notification email or some 
other means of notifying your users they know that if one of you exchange servers went 
down that all of the remote users were in effect blocked from using email till the 
server came back up.

john

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Well I work at an educational institution myself which may be bigger or smaller than 
yours, I don't know and I don't think it matters. We dealt with the problem by 
upgrading to Exchange 2000. Exchange 5.5 is what, six years old now, and hasn't seen a 
lot of new development work since Exchange 2000 (itself 3 years old) was released.  

-Original Message- 
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 13/06/2003 17:58 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.



I agree with Ed myself, and it happens that way here as we are a educational
institution and students come first. But its the idea that this has affected
all of the campus's not just one group and I know I'm going to hear about it
Monday( its the summer and allot of Professor's are on break). So I just
tell them to suck it up and live with it, that this is the way it was
designed. And they are going to ask me well how do other institution's
bigger than our self handle this and I say they just suck it up...ya
right...

john


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access them.
If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut down,
you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance period
during which the users understand that services won't be available. 



>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they
> can upgrade
> the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me
> that is at PacBell
> (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers
> go offline for
> what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to
> wait till it
> comes backup.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
>
>
> I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking
> Exchange servers
> offline routinely.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
>
>
> Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the
> situation. There has
> to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody
> know why this
> is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
>
> john
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Dis

RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
Robert, thanks for the input, we are in the 1st phase of our 2k migration
project. Its just seems somehow bizarre that Microsoft designed it this way.
I guess I didn't make myself understood when I asked this question. So, thru
a notification email or some other means of notifying your users they know
that if one of you exchange servers went down that all of the remote users
were in effect blocked from using email till the server came back up.

john

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Well I work at an educational institution myself which may be bigger or
smaller than yours, I don't know and I don't think it matters. We dealt with
the problem by upgrading to Exchange 2000. Exchange 5.5 is what, six years
old now, and hasn't seen a lot of new development work since Exchange 2000
(itself 3 years old) was released.  

-Original Message- 
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 13/06/2003 17:58 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.



I agree with Ed myself, and it happens that way here as we are a
educational
institution and students come first. But its the idea that this has
affected
all of the campus's not just one group and I know I'm going to hear
about it
Monday( its the summer and allot of Professor's are on break).
So I just
tell them to suck it up and live with it, that this is the way it
was
designed. And they are going to ask me well how do other
institution's
bigger than our self handle this and I say they just suck it up...ya
right...

john


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that
normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access
them.
If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut
down,
you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance
period
during which the users understand that services won't be available. 



>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they
> can upgrade
> the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me
> that is at PacBell
> (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers
> go offline for
> what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to
> wait till it
> comes backup.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
>
>
> I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking
> Exchange servers
> offline routinely.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
>
>
> Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the
> situation. There has
> to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody
> know why this
> is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
>
> john
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
>
>
> You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to
> Exchange 2000
> or 2003.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Robert Moir
Well I work at an educational institution myself which may be bigger or smaller than 
yours, I don't know and I don't think it matters. We dealt with the problem by 
upgrading to Exchange 2000. Exchange 5.5 is what, six years old now, and hasn't seen a 
lot of new development work since Exchange 2000 (itself 3 years old) was released.  

-Original Message- 
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 13/06/2003 17:58 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.



I agree with Ed myself, and it happens that way here as we are a educational
institution and students come first. But its the idea that this has affected
all of the campus's not just one group and I know I'm going to hear about it
Monday( its the summer and allot of Professor's are on break). So I just
tell them to suck it up and live with it, that this is the way it was
designed. And they are going to ask me well how do other institution's
bigger than our self handle this and I say they just suck it up...ya
right...

john


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access them.
If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut down,
you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance period
during which the users understand that services won't be available. 



>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they
> can upgrade
> the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me
> that is at PacBell
> (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers
> go offline for
> what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to
> wait till it
> comes backup.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
>
>
> I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking
> Exchange servers
> offline routinely.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
>
>
> Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the
> situation. There has
> to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody
> know why this
> is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
>
> john
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
>
>
> You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to
> Exchange 2000
> or 2003.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
>
>
> We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange
> server 5.5 sp4 nt
> 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server
> offline owa hangs
> for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet
> article that I
> found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
>
> john
> San Diego Community

RE: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Open Relay?

2003-06-13 Thread John Parker
Ditto on that.
The same thing happened to my domain.

John Parker, MCSE
---End of Line---



-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an
Open Relay?


I checked, and didn't see that you are running as an open relay.

Perhaps the problem you are having is Reverse DNS?  I know that AOL
requires a Reverse DNS record if you want to talk to it.  I had to add
it into my records before they would talk to me :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Romeo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Open
Relay?


When ever a recipient from my site trying to send an email to a
recipient @aol.com. He/she will receive a message saying "Delivery to
the following recipients has been delayed." Then a few days later he/she
will receive another message saying "The following recipient(s) could
not be reached:" I finally talked to technical support at AOL and they
are telling me that I have been put on the block domain list because AOL
automatically check any IP that sends email to their domain and my IP is
acting as  An open relay, or also known as third-party relay.  How do I
stop this? What is the fix? Any comments or suggestion is truly
appreciated. Thank you

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RE: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Open Relay?

2003-06-13 Thread Bob Sadler
I checked, and didn't see that you are running as an open relay.

Perhaps the problem you are having is Reverse DNS?  I know that AOL
requires a Reverse DNS record if you want to talk to it.  I had to add
it into my records before they would talk to me :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Romeo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Open
Relay?


When ever a recipient from my site trying to send an email to a
recipient @aol.com. He/she will receive a message saying "Delivery to
the following recipients has been delayed." Then a few days later he/she
will receive another message saying "The following recipient(s) could
not be reached:" I finally talked to technical support at AOL and they
are telling me that I have been put on the block domain list because AOL
automatically check any IP that sends email to their domain and my IP is
acting as  An open relay, or also known as third-party relay.  How do I
stop this? What is the fix? Any comments or suggestion is truly
appreciated. Thank you

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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
Thanks Mark. 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Rotman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Just to throw in a few cents that might not help:

Could you schedule a stop services on the owa server when you take the
server offline? This doesn't solve much, but at least gives you control over
the restart and limits the down period. Especially if your routine
maintenance is changed to say weekly and occurs at a off-peak period for a
limited time. Then at least everything is automated and comes back up on its
own.

-Original Message-
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I agree with Ed myself, and it happens that way here as we are a educational
institution and students come first. But its the idea that this has affected
all of the campus's not just one group and I know I'm going to hear about it
Monday( its the summer and allot of Professor's are on break). So I just
tell them to suck it up and live with it, that this is the way it was
designed. And they are going to ask me well how do other institution's
bigger than our self handle this and I say they just suck it up...ya
right...

john


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access them.
If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut down,
you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance period
during which the users understand that services won't be available.  



> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they 
> can upgrade
> the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me 
> that is at PacBell
> (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers 
> go offline for
> what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to 
> wait till it
> comes backup.
> 
> john
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking 
> Exchange servers
> offline routinely.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
> situation. There has
> to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
> know why this
> is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
> 
> john
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
> Exchange 2000
> or 2003.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
> server 5.5 sp4 nt
> 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
> offline owa hangs
> for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
> article that I
> found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
> 
> john
> San Diego Community College Email Administrator
> 
> PSS ID Number: 263890
> Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
> 
> The information in this article applies to:
> 
> * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
> * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
> 
> This article was previously published under Q263890 
> SYMPTOMS
> If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
> Access (OWA) and
> one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
> responding (or "hangs")
> for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
> server and also
> the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
> until the attempt
> to log on to the inaccessible server time

RE: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Ope n Relay?

2003-06-13 Thread Ben Schorr
You could start here: http://www.abuse.net/relay.html

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Romeo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:37
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting 
> as an Open Relay?
> 
> When ever a recipient from my site trying to send an email to 
> a recipient @aol.com. He/she will receive a message saying 
> "Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed." Then 
> a few days later he/she will receive another message saying 
> "The following recipient(s) could not be reached:" I finally 
> talked to technical support at AOL and they are telling me 
> that I have been put on the block domain list because AOL 
> automatically check any IP that sends email to their domain 
> and my IP is acting as  An open relay, or also known as 
> third-party relay.  How do I stop this? What is the fix? Any 
> comments or suggestion is truly appreciated. Thank you
> 
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Re: SMTP Addresses

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Or send an email with a delivery receipt to that SMTP address.

- Original Message - 
From: "Presley, Steven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: SMTP Addresses


There are a couple ways to do this (depending on what makes you happy).  The
easiest way would be to put the SMTP address in question into the TO: line
in Outlook and tap CTRL+K, which will try to resolve the address against the
GAL (which is provided by AD).  If that doesn't do it for you, you could
always run an LDAP query against AD using your favorite LDAP tool
(ldp,ldifde, ADSIEdit, etc..).  Something to the effect of:

(&(objectclass=*)(proxyaddresses=smtp:address in question))

Steve

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Subject: SMTP Addresses


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RE: SMTP Addresses

2003-06-13 Thread Presley, Steven
There are a couple ways to do this (depending on what makes you happy).  The easiest 
way would be to put the SMTP address in question into the TO: line in Outlook and tap 
CTRL+K, which will try to resolve the address against the GAL (which is provided by 
AD).  If that doesn't do it for you, you could always run an LDAP query against AD 
using your favorite LDAP tool (ldp,ldifde, ADSIEdit, etc..).  Something to the effect 
of:

(&(objectclass=*)(proxyaddresses=smtp:address in question))

Steve

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Subject: SMTP Addresses


Windows 2000 SP3
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How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Open Relay?

2003-06-13 Thread Romeo
When ever a recipient from my site trying to send an email to a
recipient @aol.com. He/she will receive a message saying "Delivery to
the following recipients has been delayed." Then a few days later he/she
will receive another message saying "The following recipient(s) could
not be reached:" I finally talked to technical support at AOL and they
are telling me that I have been put on the block domain list because AOL
automatically check any IP that sends email to their domain and my IP is
acting as  An open relay, or also known as third-party relay.  How do I
stop this? What is the fix? Any comments or suggestion is truly
appreciated. Thank you

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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Ben Schorr
Jason, I'm going to bet that you installed the Business Contact Manager for
Outlook.  One of the side effects is that it tends to remove Archive from
the menu bar.  Reset the menu bar in View | Toolbars | Customize and it
should be back.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:38
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?
> 
> Here, see for yourselves:
> 
> http://www.tyvin.com/files/clip.jpg
> 
> JC 
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > No, no import/export command either (that's another thing 
> that's been 
> > bugging me)
> > 
> > I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder 
> > (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options 
> each time.
> > And no Archive command.
> > 
> > JC
> > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > 
> > > Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?  
> > > Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File 
> menu that 
> > > you get when a message is open?
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > 
> > > > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> > > > 
> > > > New ->
> > > > Open ->
> > > > Close All Items
> > > > -
> > > > Save As
> > > > Save Attachments ->
> > > > -
> > > > Folder ->
> > > > -
> > > > Data File Management
> > > > -
> > > > Page Setup ->
> > > > Print Preview
> > > > Print
> > > > -
> > > > Exit
> > > > 
> > > > JC
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
> > > > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> > > bottom of
> > > > > the menu?
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > > > File menu
> > > > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > > > you could
> > > > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> > > archive all
> > > > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > > > command, no
> > > > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > > > help seems to
> > > > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > > > the File
> > > > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > JC
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics
Well, that's way above average.  Good for you. ;o)

I like the reference to years in the product name.  I think.

Perhaps in 2005 I will still have Windows2000 running MOM2004, monitoring
Sharepoint2001 and Exchange2003, which I access using Outlook2002.


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


Mine only goes to 11.

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> There are so many 2003's out there now, it makes your head spin!
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
>
>
> > Thank you Andy.
> >
> > Sometimes with the numbers, I have to read it twice to make
> sure of what
> an
> > email says 2000 on 2003 in 2003?  2003 on 2000 in 2000?
>  etc,  but the
> > supported installation matrix in that document says it all.
> >
> > That reference should be the answer to all these questions
> about which
> > Exchange server version goes on which platform in which AD version.
> >
> > You rock.
> >
> > William
> >
> >


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RE: SMTP Addresses

2003-06-13 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
CSVDE.exe or LDIFDE.exe will help you. Dump AD to a text file and then
search it.

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Subject: SMTP Addresses


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RE: 2000 Admin

2003-06-13 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Maybe you shouldn't

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:49 PM
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Subject: RE: 2000 Admin


Does anyone know the solution to this?  If Im a domain admin how can I get
Full Exchange 2000 admin privs? 

Thanks
Jim


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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2000 Admin


Yup I'm a Domain Admin.  Can I change it to grant Exchange administrative
access to all
domain admins?  If so do you recall the name/location of the setting?  

Thanks
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: 2000 Admin


Jim,

if this is an AD DC and you are the administrator of the local machine, then
you are possibly a domain admin (since the local machine doesnt actually
have a local security database, its the DC).  Same for local groups, it wont
have any.

Domain Admins are denied access to mailboxes, and a deny overrides any other
setting, so that could be the problem.

Glenn


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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:55 AM
Subject: 2000 Admin


> I have Exchange 2000 running on a Win2k Server that is also the Active 
> Directory Domain controller.  I was the admin of the server but I can 
> no longer administer Exchange for some reason.  I checked the Exchange 
> Administration Delegation Wizard but it says I'm an Exchange Full 
> Administrator.  I deleted and re-added my self but I still cannot 
> open/administrate other mailboxes.  The Delegation wizard does say to
verify
> I am also an administrator of the local machine but this is a domain 
> controller and I cannot access local groups on it and I do not recall 
> do that previously.  Anyone have a hint as to what I'm missing?
>
>
> Jim
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Rotman
Just to throw in a few cents that might not help:

Could you schedule a stop services on the owa server when you take the server offline? 
This doesn't solve much, but at least gives you control over the restart and limits 
the down period. Especially if your routine maintenance is changed to say weekly and 
occurs at a off-peak period for a limited time. Then at least everything is automated 
and comes back up on its own.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I agree with Ed myself, and it happens that way here as we are a educational
institution and students come first. But its the idea that this has affected
all of the campus's not just one group and I know I'm going to hear about it
Monday( its the summer and allot of Professor's are on break). So I just
tell them to suck it up and live with it, that this is the way it was
designed. And they are going to ask me well how do other institution's
bigger than our self handle this and I say they just suck it up...ya
right...

john


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access them.
If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut down,
you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance period
during which the users understand that services won't be available.  



> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they 
> can upgrade
> the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me 
> that is at PacBell
> (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers 
> go offline for
> what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to 
> wait till it
> comes backup.
> 
> john
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking 
> Exchange servers
> offline routinely.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
> situation. There has
> to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
> know why this
> is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
> 
> john
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
> Exchange 2000
> or 2003.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
> server 5.5 sp4 nt
> 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
> offline owa hangs
> for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
> article that I
> found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
> 
> john
> San Diego Community College Email Administrator
> 
> PSS ID Number: 263890
> Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
> 
> The information in this article applies to:
> 
> * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
> * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
> 
> This article was previously published under Q263890 
> SYMPTOMS
> If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
> Access (OWA) and
> one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
> responding (or "hangs")
> for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
> server and also
> the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
> until the attempt
> to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
> 
> RESOLUTION
> This behavior is by design. 
> 
> MORE INFORMATION
> OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
> synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users 

Re: 2000 Admin

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
You mean access to all the mailboxes?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B262054


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: 2000 Admin


> Does anyone know the solution to this?  If Im a domain admin how can I get
> Full Exchange 2000 admin privs?
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
>


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RE: 2000 Admin

2003-06-13 Thread JimM
Does anyone know the solution to this?  If Im a domain admin how can I get
Full Exchange 2000 admin privs? 

Thanks
Jim


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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2000 Admin


Yup I'm a Domain Admin.  Can I change it to grant Exchange administrative
access to all
domain admins?  If so do you recall the name/location of the setting?  

Thanks
Jim

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From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: 2000 Admin


Jim,

if this is an AD DC and you are the administrator of the local machine, then
you are possibly a domain admin (since the local machine doesnt actually
have a local security database, its the DC).  Same for local groups, it wont
have any.

Domain Admins are denied access to mailboxes, and a deny overrides any other
setting, so that could be the problem.

Glenn


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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:55 AM
Subject: 2000 Admin


> I have Exchange 2000 running on a Win2k Server that is also the Active 
> Directory Domain controller.  I was the admin of the server but I can 
> no longer administer Exchange for some reason.  I checked the Exchange 
> Administration Delegation Wizard but it says I'm an Exchange Full 
> Administrator.  I deleted and re-added my self but I still cannot 
> open/administrate other mailboxes.  The Delegation wizard does say to
verify
> I am also an administrator of the local machine but this is a domain 
> controller and I cannot access local groups on it and I do not recall 
> do that previously.  Anyone have a hint as to what I'm missing?
>
>
> Jim
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Reply to: issues

2003-06-13 Thread John Parker
Hello Group.

I have an inconsistent issue.

Sometimes, when one replies to an Email sent from my Domain, it will reply to the 
display name. i.e.
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RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

2003-06-13 Thread Slinger, Gary
Yeah, that was me... 


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I didn't get to attend because of the Kansas Budget Crisis, but I can still
bet that the #1 thing overheard was:'

"Where's the Beer?"



Bob Sadler
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913-339-6700 x194


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Subject: RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd


Now #2 really made me laugh!!! 
That was so TRUE!

Nice job Andy

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd


#2: Where the hell is the Arena?

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#3 My bag ripped again.

Walt

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> Subject: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd
>
> 10 "Is an 8-node Active Exchange 2003 cluster supported under VMWare
on
> Windows XP ?" - one attendee joking
>
>
>
> **  Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with

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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Interesting.
I'll try that.

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


I saw this with an ATI video chip. Latest driver fixed it. Not all O11
menu items just certain ones.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:59
To: Exchange Discussions

I havent see that.
I can however make Outlook crash on cue by simply trying to access the
Import and Export menu.

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Good call. I was able to add the Archive command to a toolbar from Tools
| Customize | Commands. Still would like to know WTF it isn't in my File
menu.

JC

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and
> rebuild/reset the toolbars?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
> Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?
>
>
> No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
> bugging me)
>
> I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
> (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
> And no Archive command.
>
> JC
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
> > Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
> > menu that you get when a message is open?
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> > >
> > > New ->
> > > Open ->
> > > Close All Items
> > > -
> > > Save As
> > > Save Attachments ->
> > > -
> > > Folder ->
> > > -
> > > Data File Management
> > > -
> > > Page Setup ->
> > > Print Preview
> > > Print
> > > -
> > > Exit
> > >
> > > JC
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> > > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> > bottom of
> > > > the menu?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > >
> > > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > > File menu
> > > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > > you could
> > > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> > archive all
> > > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > > command, no
> > > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > > help seems to
> > > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > > the File
> > > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > > >
> > > > > JC
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Ahh. Yea, I didnt mean the actual "rebuild" button or whatever its called. I
was using it in the generic sense! :)

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Sure, but I was addressing what he said too. He was trying to find it in
the menu. He needed to add it to the toolbar, if available, as a work
around to it missing from the menu, not reset the toolbar. :-)

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:43
To: Exchange Discussions

Isnt that what I just said? Rebuild/ Reset the Toolbar.


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


I think that only affects toolbars, not menus. However it brings up an
interesting question. If you go to Tools, Customize, Commands. Do you
see Archive and Import/Export as selections in the File category? If so,
drag them to a toolbar.

Bottom line though is this is beta 2. Things happen. There is a refresh
coming out any day for those who have beta 2.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:34
To: Exchange Discussions

Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
> Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
> menu that you get when a message is open?
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> >
> > New ->
> > Open ->
> > Close All Items
> > -
> > Save As
> > Save Attachments ->
> > -
> > Folder ->
> > -
> > Data File Management
> > -
> > Page Setup ->
> > Print Preview
> > Print
> > -
> > Exit
> >
> > JC
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> bottom of
> > > the menu?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > File menu
> > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > you could
> > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> archive all
> > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > >
> > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > command, no
> > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > help seems to
> > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > the File
> > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > >
> > > > JC
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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
Mine only goes to 11. 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> There are so many 2003's out there now, it makes your head spin!
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
> 
> 
> > Thank you Andy.
> >
> > Sometimes with the numbers, I have to read it twice to make 
> sure of what
> an
> > email says 2000 on 2003 in 2003?  2003 on 2000 in 2000? 
>  etc,  but the
> > supported installation matrix in that document says it all.
> >
> > That reference should be the answer to all these questions 
> about which
> > Exchange server version goes on which platform in which AD version.
> >
> > You rock.
> >
> > William
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
> >
> >
> > > Yes.
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/ti/TiWin2003.doc
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message - 
> > > From: "Elmerick, Ralph H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:08 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
> > >
> > >
> > > > Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running 
> Windows 2003 in a
> > > > Windows 2000 forest.
> > > >
> > > > Ralph H. Elmerick
> > > > NT/Exchange Administrator
> > > > 330-471-3409
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:00 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
I agree with Ed myself, and it happens that way here as we are a educational
institution and students come first. But its the idea that this has affected
all of the campus's not just one group and I know I'm going to hear about it
Monday( its the summer and allot of Professor's are on break). So I just
tell them to suck it up and live with it, that this is the way it was
designed. And they are going to ask me well how do other institution's
bigger than our self handle this and I say they just suck it up...ya
right...

john


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access them.
If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut down,
you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance period
during which the users understand that services won't be available.  



> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they 
> can upgrade
> the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me 
> that is at PacBell
> (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers 
> go offline for
> what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to 
> wait till it
> comes backup.
> 
> john
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking 
> Exchange servers
> offline routinely.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
> situation. There has
> to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
> know why this
> is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
> 
> john
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
> Exchange 2000
> or 2003.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
> server 5.5 sp4 nt
> 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
> offline owa hangs
> for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
> article that I
> found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
> 
> john
> San Diego Community College Email Administrator
> 
> PSS ID Number: 263890
> Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
> 
> The information in this article applies to:
> 
> * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
> * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
> 
> This article was previously published under Q263890 
> SYMPTOMS
> If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
> Access (OWA) and
> one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
> responding (or "hangs")
> for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
> server and also
> the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
> until the attempt
> to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
> 
> RESOLUTION
> This behavior is by design. 
> 
> MORE INFORMATION
> OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
> synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
> authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
> Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
> Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
> kbZNotKeyword2 
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Dan Bartley
I saw this with an ATI video chip. Latest driver fixed it. Not all O11
menu items just certain ones.

Best Regards, 

Dan Bartley


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:59
To: Exchange Discussions

I havent see that.
I can however make Outlook crash on cue by simply trying to access the
Import and Export menu.

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From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Good call. I was able to add the Archive command to a toolbar from Tools
| Customize | Commands. Still would like to know WTF it isn't in my File
menu.

JC

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and
> rebuild/reset the toolbars?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
> Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?
>
>
> No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
> bugging me)
>
> I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
> (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
> And no Archive command.
>
> JC
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
> > Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
> > menu that you get when a message is open?
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> > >
> > > New ->
> > > Open ->
> > > Close All Items
> > > -
> > > Save As
> > > Save Attachments ->
> > > -
> > > Folder ->
> > > -
> > > Data File Management
> > > -
> > > Page Setup ->
> > > Print Preview
> > > Print
> > > -
> > > Exit
> > >
> > > JC
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> > > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> > bottom of
> > > > the menu?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > >
> > > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > > File menu
> > > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > > you could
> > > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> > archive all
> > > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > > command, no
> > > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > > help seems to
> > > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > > the File
> > > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > > >
> > > > > JC
> > > > >
> > > > >
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SMTP Addresses

2003-06-13 Thread Joshua R. Morgan
Windows 2000 SP3
Exchange 2000 SP3


How do I query my Exchange server to see what or who has a specific SMTP
Address







Joshua Morgan
Method IQ
Senior Network Engineer
Main: (864) 272-1145
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Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
There are so many 2003's out there now, it makes your head spin!

- Original Message - 
From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


> Thank you Andy.
>
> Sometimes with the numbers, I have to read it twice to make sure of what
an
> email says 2000 on 2003 in 2003?  2003 on 2000 in 2000?  etc,  but the
> supported installation matrix in that document says it all.
>
> That reference should be the answer to all these questions about which
> Exchange server version goes on which platform in which AD version.
>
> You rock.
>
> William
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
>
>
> > Yes.
> > http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/ti/TiWin2003.doc
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Elmerick, Ralph H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
> >
> >
> > > Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
> > > Windows 2000 forest.
> > >
> > > Ralph H. Elmerick
> > > NT/Exchange Administrator
> > > 330-471-3409
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:00 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well.
> > >
> > >
>
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Dan Bartley
Sure, but I was addressing what he said too. He was trying to find it in
the menu. He needed to add it to the toolbar, if available, as a work
around to it missing from the menu, not reset the toolbar. :-)

Best Regards, 

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:43
To: Exchange Discussions

Isnt that what I just said? Rebuild/ Reset the Toolbar.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Bartley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


I think that only affects toolbars, not menus. However it brings up an
interesting question. If you go to Tools, Customize, Commands. Do you
see Archive and Import/Export as selections in the File category? If so,
drag them to a toolbar.

Bottom line though is this is beta 2. Things happen. There is a refresh
coming out any day for those who have beta 2.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:34
To: Exchange Discussions

Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

- Original Message - 
From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
> Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
> menu that you get when a message is open?
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> >
> > New ->
> > Open ->
> > Close All Items
> > -
> > Save As
> > Save Attachments ->
> > -
> > Folder ->
> > -
> > Data File Management
> > -
> > Page Setup ->
> > Print Preview
> > Print
> > -
> > Exit
> >
> > JC
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> bottom of
> > > the menu?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > File menu
> > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > you could
> > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> archive all
> > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > >
> > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > command, no
> > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > help seems to
> > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > the File
> > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > >
> > > > JC
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
I havent see that.
I can however make Outlook crash on cue by simply trying to access the
Import and Export menu.

- Original Message - 
From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Good call. I was able to add the Archive command to a toolbar from Tools
| Customize | Commands. Still would like to know WTF it isn't in my File
menu.

JC

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and
> rebuild/reset the toolbars?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
> Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?
>
>
> No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
> bugging me)
>
> I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
> (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
> And no Archive command.
>
> JC
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
> > Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
> > menu that you get when a message is open?
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> > >
> > > New ->
> > > Open ->
> > > Close All Items
> > > -
> > > Save As
> > > Save Attachments ->
> > > -
> > > Folder ->
> > > -
> > > Data File Management
> > > -
> > > Page Setup ->
> > > Print Preview
> > > Print
> > > -
> > > Exit
> > >
> > > JC
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> > > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> > bottom of
> > > > the menu?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > >
> > > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > > File menu
> > > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > > you could
> > > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> > archive all
> > > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > > command, no
> > > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > > help seems to
> > > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > > the File
> > > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > > >
> > > > > JC
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics
Thank you Andy.

Sometimes with the numbers, I have to read it twice to make sure of what an
email says 2000 on 2003 in 2003?  2003 on 2000 in 2000?  etc,  but the
supported installation matrix in that document says it all.

That reference should be the answer to all these questions about which
Exchange server version goes on which platform in which AD version.

You rock.

William


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


> Yes.
> http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/ti/TiWin2003.doc
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Elmerick, Ralph H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:08 PM
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
>
>
> > Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
> > Windows 2000 forest.
> >
> > Ralph H. Elmerick
> > NT/Exchange Administrator
> > 330-471-3409
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:00 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
> >
> >
> > Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well.
> >
> >


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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Isnt that what I just said? Rebuild/ Reset the Toolbar.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Bartley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


I think that only affects toolbars, not menus. However it brings up an
interesting question. If you go to Tools, Customize, Commands. Do you
see Archive and Import/Export as selections in the File category? If so,
drag them to a toolbar.

Bottom line though is this is beta 2. Things happen. There is a refresh
coming out any day for those who have beta 2.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:34
To: Exchange Discussions

Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

- Original Message - 
From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
> Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
> menu that you get when a message is open?
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> >
> > New ->
> > Open ->
> > Close All Items
> > -
> > Save As
> > Save Attachments ->
> > -
> > Folder ->
> > -
> > Data File Management
> > -
> > Page Setup ->
> > Print Preview
> > Print
> > -
> > Exit
> >
> > JC
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> bottom of
> > > the menu?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > File menu
> > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > you could
> > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> archive all
> > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > >
> > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > command, no
> > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > help seems to
> > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > the File
> > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > >
> > > > JC
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Good call. I was able to add the Archive command to a toolbar from Tools
| Customize | Commands. Still would like to know WTF it isn't in my File
menu.

JC 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and 
> rebuild/reset the toolbars?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
> Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?
> 
> 
> No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
> bugging me)
> 
> I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
> (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
> And no Archive command.
> 
> JC
> 
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
> > Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
> > menu that you get when a message is open?
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> > >
> > > New ->
> > > Open ->
> > > Close All Items
> > > -
> > > Save As
> > > Save Attachments ->
> > > -
> > > Folder ->
> > > -
> > > Data File Management
> > > -
> > > Page Setup ->
> > > Print Preview
> > > Print
> > > -
> > > Exit
> > >
> > > JC
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> > > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> > bottom of
> > > > the menu?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > >
> > > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > > File menu
> > > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > > you could
> > > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> > archive all
> > > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > > command, no
> > > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > > help seems to
> > > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > > the File
> > > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > > >
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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Although the M: shows up in IIS, it isn't really used.  It's just there to
fill the field.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I'm talking about OWA2k.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Exchange 5.5 OWA is really MAPI, as I recall, the M: showing in IIS isn't
important.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue to
bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It does
not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M: drive,
especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

 Telenor Business Solutions, a division of international telecoms
organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service Provider.
For further information, visit http://www.telenorbusinesssolutions.co.uk. 

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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Same.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I'm talking about OWA2k.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Exchange 5.5 OWA is really MAPI, as I recall, the M: showing in IIS isn't
important.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue to
bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It does
not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M: drive,
especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

 Telenor Business Solutions, a division of international telecoms
organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service Provider.
For further information, visit http://www.telenorbusinesssolutions.co.uk. 

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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Dan Bartley
I think that only affects toolbars, not menus. However it brings up an
interesting question. If you go to Tools, Customize, Commands. Do you
see Archive and Import/Export as selections in the File category? If so,
drag them to a toolbar.

Bottom line though is this is beta 2. Things happen. There is a refresh
coming out any day for those who have beta 2.

Best Regards, 

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:34
To: Exchange Discussions

Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

- Original Message - 
From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
> Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
> menu that you get when a message is open?
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> >
> > New ->
> > Open ->
> > Close All Items
> > -
> > Save As
> > Save Attachments ->
> > -
> > Folder ->
> > -
> > Data File Management
> > -
> > Page Setup ->
> > Print Preview
> > Print
> > -
> > Exit
> >
> > JC
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> bottom of
> > > the menu?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > File menu
> > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > you could
> > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> archive all
> > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > >
> > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > command, no
> > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > help seems to
> > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > the File
> > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > >
> > > > JC
> > > >
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Here, see for yourselves:

http://www.tyvin.com/files/clip.jpg

JC 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clishe, Jason 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> No, no import/export command either (that's another thing 
> that's been bugging me)
> 
> I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every 
> folder (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same 
> options each time.
> And no Archive command.
> 
> JC 
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?  
> > Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File menu that 
> > you get when a message is open?
> > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > 
> > > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> > > 
> > > New ->
> > > Open ->
> > > Close All Items
> > > -
> > > Save As
> > > Save Attachments ->
> > > -
> > > Folder ->
> > > -
> > > Data File Management
> > > -
> > > Page Setup ->
> > > Print Preview
> > > Print
> > > -
> > > Exit
> > > 
> > > JC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > 
> > > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
> > > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> > bottom of
> > > > the menu?
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > 
> > > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > > File menu
> > > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > > you could
> > > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> > archive all
> > > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > > command, no
> > > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > > help seems to
> > > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > > the File
> > > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > JC
> > > > > 
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
You assume incorrectly; PacBell, what the local phone company used to be
called, is my ISP.  As to your assertion about what I'm telling you, it's
not me telling you that, it's the KB article you cited telling you that.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they can upgrade
the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me that is at PacBell
(where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers go offline for
what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to wait till it
comes backup.

john

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking Exchange servers
offline routinely.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the situation. There has
to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody know why this
is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.

john


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or "hangs")
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

- Original Message - 
From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
> Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
> menu that you get when a message is open?
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> >
> > New ->
> > Open ->
> > Close All Items
> > -
> > Save As
> > Save Attachments ->
> > -
> > Folder ->
> > -
> > Data File Management
> > -
> > Page Setup ->
> > Print Preview
> > Print
> > -
> > Exit
> >
> > JC
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> bottom of
> > > the menu?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > File menu
> > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > you could
> > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> archive all
> > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > >
> > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > command, no
> > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > help seems to
> > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > the File
> > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > >
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Woodruff, Michael
I don't remember during the custom install, but maybe the options have
changed?  I doubt it though.  I have a friend who is running the beta
also and every time he clicks on his deleted items folder it just says
"items cannot be displayed". 


-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?  
> Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File menu that 
> you get when a message is open?
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> > 
> > New ->
> > Open ->
> > Close All Items
> > -
> > Save As
> > Save Attachments ->
> > -
> > Folder ->
> > -
> > Data File Management
> > -
> > Page Setup ->
> > Print Preview
> > Print
> > -
> > Exit
> > 
> > JC
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > 
> > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
> > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> bottom of
> > > the menu?
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > 
> > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > File menu
> > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > you could
> > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead
> archive all
> > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > > 
> > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > command, no
> > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > help seems to
> > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > the File
> > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > > 
> > > > JC
> > > > 
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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Nold
Thanks for the input...something for me to investigate

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

FWIW we use Geotrust certs from rackshack.net - no idea how they can do
it
but they're $39 and work just fine and do up to 128bit.  

As I see it certs do two things, encrypt, and prove you are who you
claim to
be, and to me the extra that Verisign and the likes cost isn't worth it
for
what you gain.

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 June 2003 15:32
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL
> 
> 
> I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL. 
>  I have a
> stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
> domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the 
> 2000 server or
> can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?  
> Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File 
> menu that you get when a message is open? 
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> > 
> > New ->
> > Open ->
> > Close All Items
> > -
> > Save As
> > Save Attachments ->
> > -
> > Folder ->
> > -
> > Data File Management
> > -
> > Page Setup ->
> > Print Preview
> > Print
> > -
> > Exit
> > 
> > JC
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > 
> > > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
> > >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the 
> bottom of 
> > > the menu?
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > 
> > > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > > File menu
> > > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > > you could
> > > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead 
> archive all 
> > > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > > 
> > > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
> > command, no
> > > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> > help seems to
> > > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > > the File
> > > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > > 
> > > > JC
> > > > 
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
I get hazy around this time every Friday.
I guess its my turn to buy a vowel.


- Original Message - 
From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Dude, I'm not *that* big of a moron. Lol

JC

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Close the open message you are looking at.
> You're looking at the wrong toolbar.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
> Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?
>
>
> Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
>
> New ->
> Open ->
> Close All Items
> -
> Save As
> Save Attachments ->
> -
> Folder ->
> -
> Data File Management
> -
> Page Setup ->
> Print Preview
> Print
> -
> Exit
>
> JC
>
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> > bottom of the menu?
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > File menu
> > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > you could
> > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
> > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > >
> > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
> > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
> help seems to
> > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > the File
> > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > >
> > > JC
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Dude, I'm not *that* big of a moron. Lol

JC 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Close the open message you are looking at.
> You're looking at the wrong toolbar.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
> Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?
> 
> 
> Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> 
> New ->
> Open ->
> Close All Items
> -
> Save As
> Save Attachments ->
> -
> Folder ->
> -
> Data File Management
> -
> Page Setup ->
> Print Preview
> Print
> -
> Exit
> 
> JC
> 
> 
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
> >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> > bottom of the menu?
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> > File menu
> > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> > you could
> > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
> > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > >
> > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
> > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 
> help seems to
> > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> > the File
> > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > >
> > > JC
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Doh. lol.
I just did the reverse.

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From: "Woodruff, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


The open message toolbar doesn't have data file management.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Close the open message you are looking at.
You're looking at the wrong toolbar.



- Original Message -
From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:

New ->
Open ->
Close All Items
-
Save As
Save Attachments ->
-
Folder ->
-
Data File Management
-
Page Setup ->
Print Preview
Print
-
Exit

JC


>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
>  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> bottom of the menu?
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> File menu
> > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> you could
> > override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
> > items in all folders older than a given date.
> >
> > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
> > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
> > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> the File
> > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> >
> > JC
> >
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Woodruff, Michael
The open message toolbar doesn't have data file management. 


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Close the open message you are looking at.
You're looking at the wrong toolbar.



- Original Message -
From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:

New ->
Open ->
Close All Items
-
Save As
Save Attachments ->
-
Folder ->
-
Data File Management
-
Page Setup ->
Print Preview
Print
-
Exit

JC


>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
>  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> bottom of the menu?
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> File menu
> > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> you could
> > override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
> > items in all folders older than a given date.
> >
> > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
> > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
> > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> the File
> > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> >
> > JC
> >
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Close the open message you are looking at.
You're looking at the wrong toolbar.



- Original Message - 
From: "Clishe, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:

New ->
Open ->
Close All Items
-
Save As
Save Attachments ->
-
Folder ->
-
Data File Management
-
Page Setup ->
Print Preview
Print
-
Exit

JC


>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
>  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
> bottom of the menu?
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
> File menu
> > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
> you could
> > override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
> > items in all folders older than a given date.
> >
> > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
> > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
> > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
> the File
> > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> >
> > JC
> >
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Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Yes.
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/ti/TiWin2003.doc


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From: "Elmerick, Ralph H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


> Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
> Windows 2000 forest.
>
> Ralph H. Elmerick
> NT/Exchange Administrator
> 330-471-3409
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:00 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
>
>
> Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elmerick, Ralph H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
> 2000 SP3 forest.
>
> Ralph H. Elmerick
> NT/Exchange Administrator
> 330-471-3409
>
>
>
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?  Are you in the
main OL window and not looking at the File menu that you get when a message
is open? 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
> 
> New ->
> Open ->
> Close All Items
> -
> Save As
> Save Attachments ->
> -
> Folder ->
> -
> Data File Management
> -
> Page Setup ->
> Print Preview
> Print
> -
> Exit
> 
> JC
> 
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
> >  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the 
> > bottom of the menu? 
> > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > 
> > > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the 
> > File menu 
> > > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and 
> > you could 
> > > override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all 
> > > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > > 
> > > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive 
> command, no 
> > > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 
> help seems to 
> > > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on 
> > the File 
> > > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > > 
> > > JC
> > > 
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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Yes. 


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
Windows 2000 forest.

Ralph H. Elmerick
NT/Exchange Administrator
330-471-3409


-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well. 


-Original Message-
From: Elmerick, Ralph H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
2000 SP3 forest.

Ralph H. Elmerick
NT/Exchange Administrator
330-471-3409




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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:

New ->
Open ->
Close All Items
-
Save As
Save Attachments ->
-
Folder ->
-
Data File Management
-
Page Setup ->
Print Preview
Print
-
Exit

JC


> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
>  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the 
> bottom of the menu? 
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the 
> File menu 
> > that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and 
> you could 
> > override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all 
> > items in all folders older than a given date.
> > 
> > Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no 
> > matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to 
> > indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on 
> the File 
> > menu, but I sure can't find it.
> > 
> > JC
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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Elmerick, Ralph H.
Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
Windows 2000 forest.

Ralph H. Elmerick
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Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well. 


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:59 PM
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Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
2000 SP3 forest.

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RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Ronk, I think you're confused.

You MUST have AD in place and operational before you can install
Exchange.

The Exchange server does NOT need to be, nor should it be, installed on
a domain controller.

JC 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:11 PM
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> 
> Thanks Ed you have confirmed my thoughts about this. I have 
> had another admin from another site tell me that you don't 
> want to install AD on the exchange server, but my anwser to 
> him was why do we have AD if you aren't going to use it.
> Thanks Much
> Ronk
> 
> > You don't need to do anything until you want to install 
> Exchange 2000, 
> > = at which point you must run the usual setup /forestprep 
> and setup = 
> > /domainprep.
> > Actually, I've seen it recommended that you run update 
> /forestprep and 
> > update /domainprep from the Exchange 2000 SP3 CD.  I don't 
> believe you 
> > = need to run adprep unless you're installing Exchange 2003 in a 
> > Windows 2000 forest.
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronk
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest
> > 
> > 
> > All I have a question about the installation of a windows 
> 2000 server 
> > = that will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 
> forest. Before 
> > I do a dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest 
> and domain do 
> > I need = to run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all 
> is updated 
> > to the new =
> > 2003
> > schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its 
> > course. = I know I have to do forestprep when I install 
> exchange but 
> > am not sure if = I need to prepare the 2000 server before I 
> bring it 
> > into AD. Any help is appreciated. Thanks In Advance Ronk
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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well. 


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Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
2000 SP3 forest.

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Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
yes.

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> Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
> 2000 SP3 forest.
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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Elmerick, Ralph H.
Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
2000 SP3 forest.

Ralph H. Elmerick
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Ah yes.
There as well.

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?  What happens
when you click on the double-chevron at the bottom of the menu?

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the File menu
> that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and you could
> override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive
> all items
> in all folders older than a given date.
>
> Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
> matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
> indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on the File
> menu, but I sure can't find it.
>
> JC
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Tools/Mailbox Cleanup

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:49 PM
Subject: OT: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all items
in all folders older than a given date.

Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.

JC

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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?  What happens
when you click on the double-chevron at the bottom of the menu? 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the File menu
> that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and you could
> override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive 
> all items
> in all folders older than a given date.
> 
> Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
> matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
> indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on the File
> menu, but I sure can't find it.
> 
> JC
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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Nold
We use our own certs for OWA.  Since its just our employees hitting that
site (well lets say its our employees that should be hitting that site),
Im not so concerned that we are not "endorsed" by a 3rd party.  We
prefer to pay the $700 (to Verisign) for the cert and use it on our
truly "public" sites.

Hope that helps.

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From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL.  I have a
stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the 2000 server or
can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?

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OT: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all items
in all folders older than a given date.

Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.

JC

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RE: Ghost of 5.5 KMS

2003-06-13 Thread Richard Dann
Rick,

Thanks for that. I did indeed find a reference to the old server in that
object. There is also a CA object in the same container which also had a
reference to the same server. As I recall the 5.5 clean up instructions said
to delete the raw CA object. Any idea whether I should de the same in 2K?

regards,
Richard Dann

> -Original Message-
> From: Clemens, Rick [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:35 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Ghost of 5.5 KMS
> 
> I had the same problem and here is what we did to resolve it:
> 
> Open ADSI Edit (Be Careful Here)
> 
> Connect to Configuration Container
> 
>   cn = configuration
>   cn = services
>   cn = Microsoft Exchange
>   cn = ORGNAME
>   cn = Administrative Groups
>   cn = SITENAME
>   cn = Advanced
> Security
> 
> With in the Advanced Security container is the Encryption Object.  Open
> the
> properties of this object and look at the KMServer attribute.  You will
> probably see a reference to your old Exchange 5.5 KMS server.  Clear this
> attribute in each Administrative Group. 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Rick Clemens
>  
>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:41 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I've got two servers in an organisation/site, the first is 5.5 SP4 and the
> second is Exchange 2K SP3. The 5.5 server once had KMS installed. If I try
> reinstalling it I get an install failure so I've suspicions of something
> lurking. The KB articles for cleaning up failed installs have been applied
> so theoretically the server should be clean.
> 
> I'm now trying to install KMS on the 2K system (which is intended to
> replace
> the 5.5 one) and its saying there is already a KMS in the site. This may
> be
> a replication problem or there may be something still referencing the dead
> KMS. Has anyone seen this before or does anyone know what the install
> program may be detecting?
> 
> regards,
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
I'm running Ex2K which doesn't have this issue, and I try to avoid downtime
and maintenance during times when the users will use the system (Our messages
are crossing, but check the other message I just sent) 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Eric, thanks...so how do handle your users or do they just 
> know that it will
> be this way.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:33 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> OWA doesn't know that another Exchange server is unavailable 
> until it tries
> to connect to it (i.e. whan a user tries to logon).  Like any 
> other client
> process, it will attempt to find and communicate with the 
> server, and wait a
> certain amount of time until either the connection is made or 
> times out.
> Maybe OWA could produce better error messages or have a 
> "please wait while I
> try to log you on..." screen, but they don't.   
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:25 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
> > situation. There has
> > to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
> > know why this
> > is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
> > 
> > john
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> > 
> > 
> > You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
> > Exchange 2000
> > or 2003.
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> > Strongosky
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> > 
> > 
> > We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
> > server 5.5 sp4 nt
> > 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
> > offline owa hangs
> > for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
> > article that I
> > found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
> > 
> > john
> > San Diego Community College Email Administrator
> > 
> > PSS ID Number: 263890
> > Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
> > 
> > The information in this article applies to:
> > 
> > *   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
> > *   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
> > 
> > This article was previously published under Q263890 
> > SYMPTOMS
> > If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
> > Access (OWA) and
> > one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
> > responding (or "hangs")
> > for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
> > server and also
> > the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
> > until the attempt
> > to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
> > 
> > RESOLUTION
> > This behavior is by design. 
> > 
> > MORE INFORMATION
> > OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
> > synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
> > authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
> > Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
> > Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
> > kbZNotKeyword2 
> > 
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access them.  If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut down, you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance period
during which the users understand that services won't be available.  



> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they 
> can upgrade
> the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me 
> that is at PacBell
> (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers 
> go offline for
> what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to 
> wait till it
> comes backup.
> 
> john
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking 
> Exchange servers
> offline routinely.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
> situation. There has
> to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
> know why this
> is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
> 
> john
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
> Exchange 2000
> or 2003.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
> server 5.5 sp4 nt
> 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
> offline owa hangs
> for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
> article that I
> found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
> 
> john
> San Diego Community College Email Administrator
> 
> PSS ID Number: 263890
> Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
> 
> The information in this article applies to:
> 
> * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
> * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
> 
> This article was previously published under Q263890 
> SYMPTOMS
> If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
> Access (OWA) and
> one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
> responding (or "hangs")
> for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
> server and also
> the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
> until the attempt
> to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
> 
> RESOLUTION
> This behavior is by design. 
> 
> MORE INFORMATION
> OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
> synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
> authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
> Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
> Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
> kbZNotKeyword2 
> 
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
Eric, thanks...so how do handle your users or do they just know that it will
be this way.

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


OWA doesn't know that another Exchange server is unavailable until it tries
to connect to it (i.e. whan a user tries to logon).  Like any other client
process, it will attempt to find and communicate with the server, and wait a
certain amount of time until either the connection is made or times out.
Maybe OWA could produce better error messages or have a "please wait while I
try to log you on..." screen, but they don't.   

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
> situation. There has
> to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
> know why this
> is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
> 
> john
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
> Exchange 2000
> or 2003.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
> server 5.5 sp4 nt
> 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
> offline owa hangs
> for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
> article that I
> found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
> 
> john
> San Diego Community College Email Administrator
> 
> PSS ID Number: 263890
> Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
> 
> The information in this article applies to:
> 
> * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
> * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
> 
> This article was previously published under Q263890 
> SYMPTOMS
> If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
> Access (OWA) and
> one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
> responding (or "hangs")
> for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
> server and also
> the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
> until the attempt
> to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
> 
> RESOLUTION
> This behavior is by design. 
> 
> MORE INFORMATION
> OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
> synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
> authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
> Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
> Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
> kbZNotKeyword2 
> 
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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
I don't know how a cert needs to cost more than $39, or even that much for
that matter.

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL


FWIW we use Geotrust certs from rackshack.net - no idea how they can do it
but they're $39 and work just fine and do up to 128bit.  

As I see it certs do two things, encrypt, and prove you are who you claim to
be, and to me the extra that Verisign and the likes cost isn't worth it for
what you gain.

regards,
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> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 June 2003 15:32
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL
> 
> 
> I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL.
>  I have a
> stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
> domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the 
> 2000 server or
> can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they can upgrade
the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me that is at PacBell
(where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers go offline for
what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to wait till it
comes backup.

john

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking Exchange servers
offline routinely.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the situation. There has
to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody know why this
is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.

john


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or "hangs")
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
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RE: Cannot find Pub.edb but only oldPub.edb

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Could it be related to the fact that the clock on the machine on which you
sent this message is over two years slow?

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lukunku,
Jean-Claude
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cannot find Pub.edb but only oldPub.edb


I have a strange situation.  The Public Store has disappeared from my
server.  The only reference to the database is oldpub.edb.  I notice this
when I try to run Performance Optimizer to move my databases to the new
drives that I have just installed on the server.  I do not have any data in
the Public Folder.  Also, when I click on my server name in MS Exchange
administrator, I can only see Private Information Store, the Public
Information Store is not listed.  My server is working fine.  But I cannot
run Performance Optimizer.  Any ideas.

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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
FWIW we use Geotrust certs from rackshack.net - no idea how they can do it
but they're $39 and work just fine and do up to 128bit.  

As I see it certs do two things, encrypt, and prove you are who you claim to
be, and to me the extra that Verisign and the likes cost isn't worth it for
what you gain.

regards,
Paul
--
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Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 June 2003 15:32
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL
> 
> 
> I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL. 
>  I have a
> stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
> domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the 
> 2000 server or
> can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?
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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ken Cornetet
I'm talking about OWA2k.

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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Exchange 5.5 OWA is really MAPI, as I recall, the M: showing in IIS
isn't important.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

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Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue
to bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent
as it appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to
avoid the interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the
exclusion on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent
shouldn't need configuration to exclude drives, that is something done
when specifying a backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an
issue (the basic backup agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what
they found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a
cause not related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It
does not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M:
drive, especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K
SP3 machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non
Exchange files I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if
the AV was allowed to scan the M drive all sorts of things started
locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I
set it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
OWA doesn't know that another Exchange server is unavailable until it tries
to connect to it (i.e. whan a user tries to logon).  Like any other client
process, it will attempt to find and communicate with the server, and wait a
certain amount of time until either the connection is made or times out.
Maybe OWA could produce better error messages or have a "please wait while I
try to log you on..." screen, but they don't.   

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
> situation. There has
> to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
> know why this
> is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.
> 
> john
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
> Exchange 2000
> or 2003.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> Strongosky
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
> 
> 
> We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
> server 5.5 sp4 nt
> 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
> offline owa hangs
> for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
> article that I
> found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
> 
> john
> San Diego Community College Email Administrator
> 
> PSS ID Number: 263890
> Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
> 
> The information in this article applies to:
> 
> * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
> * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
> 
> This article was previously published under Q263890 
> SYMPTOMS
> If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
> Access (OWA) and
> one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
> responding (or "hangs")
> for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
> server and also
> the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
> until the attempt
> to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
> 
> RESOLUTION
> This behavior is by design. 
> 
> MORE INFORMATION
> OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
> synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
> authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
> Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
> Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
> kbZNotKeyword2 
> 
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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Exchange 5.5 OWA is really MAPI, as I recall, the M: showing in IIS isn't
important.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue to
bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It does
not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M: drive,
especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

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organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service Provider.
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Cannot find Pub.edb but only oldPub.edb

2003-06-13 Thread Lukunku, Jean-Claude
I have a strange situation.  The Public Store has disappeared from my
server.  The only reference to the database is oldpub.edb.  I notice this
when I try to run Performance Optimizer to move my databases to the new
drives that I have just installed on the server.  I do not have any data in
the Public Folder.  Also, when I click on my server name in MS Exchange
administrator, I can only see Private Information Store, the Public
Information Store is not listed.  My server is working fine.  But I cannot
run Performance Optimizer.  Any ideas.

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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking Exchange servers
offline routinely.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the situation. There has
to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody know why this
is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.

john


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or "hangs")
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
kbZNotKeyword2 


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RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

2003-06-13 Thread Nick Field
Hi Matt,
If I am reading this right, the OpenBSD servers selectively (dependant upon
account) forward some of the mail to your Exchange system and retain the
rest for POP collection?
The users with POP email programs then bypass any perimeter security you
have implemented by collecting direct from the OpenBSD server that has not
stripped attachments.
All users that can communicate with the Exchange system do so, and by doing
so only collect mail that has had sensitive attachments stripped.
If this is the case, why not do the following:-

Create accounts for all your users on your Exchange system and arrange for
all mail to be forwarded by SMTP. Close POP at the firewall to prevent
abuse.
To allow those users that 'must' continue to use POP to collect their mail,
enable POP collection from your Exchange server.

The result is - You are fully protected, as all mail has attachments
stripped, and the users are happy as they have not had to change their
methods of mail retrieval.

Nick


-Original Message-
From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 June 2003 04:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

Ok Im getting tired and its late and I've been here at work since 8:00am.
I'm going to try one more time to clear this up. 
Campus email servers are OpenBSD something or other.  They forward mail to
my exchange server via SMTP. (not the problem)
Users inside my firewall that don't use my exchange server get their mail
from the main campus OpenBSD email server via POP. (the problem) Therefore
bypassing my ability to strip there harmful attachments.  

Matt




-Original Message-
From: deji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Then in this case I would say it does not matter whether they POP, PIP, or
personally imbibe it, IF your exchange server's AV signature doesn't catch
the Virus, the client will get it.

All the mails go through your Exchange server. Concentrate your efforts on
making your AV work better on the server, and stop worrying about a
non-issue.

HTH

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
www.akomolafe.com
www.iyaburo.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

The reason I asked the original question is because I work at a .EDU All
mail goes to a [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on a central campus server. From
there people either have their mail forwarded to their department mail
server like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my exchange server) address or use
POP to down load their mail from the campus server.  I have been trying to
get management to force everyone to go through my exchange server so my
firewall can strip all those bad attachment types.  As it is a virus can
sneak into my network with an attachment through POP.  All my anti-virus
software is set to update daily but if a new virus is able to make it in via
POP before my anti-virus software updates.  BAM  lots and lots of work
:(

Matt




-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


I think the original question must have related to POPing out for personal
mail, because otherwise the normal attachment stripping would occur. Clearly
if you're just popping into your regular Exchange mailbox, you're just as
protected from viruses as you are accessing it any other way.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 14:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Allowing employees to POP personal mail?  Hmmm I didn't see that in the
question but it's als a bad idea...

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:46 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> I believe the question here was specifically whether to allow internal 
> POP clients to pull their mail (personal, presumably) from
> outside sources.  To
> that, I would agree it is a very poor idea to allow that.
>
> As to whether to allow POP usage from outside, I would also agree that

> allowing it is a poor idea, but there are ways to make it not so poor.

> Even though it is primative, POP is still a protocol that is necessary

> for clients running on non-Windows platforms.  You can configure 
> Exchange 2000 to support only POP with SSL, somewhat reducing the 
> vulnerability, or, better yet, allow it only through a VPN.  Still, I 
> would be encouraging such
> users to try to use IMAP instead, but it is not without its
> risks as well.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the wor

RE: EDB Size ?

2003-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics
2 weeks is a long time.  I prefer to release my vowels daily. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Make sure Mr. Sojka sends a cashier's check, not a personal check. The
personal check would require being held for 2 weeks prior to releasing the
vowel into his posession.

Roger
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: EDB Size ?
> 
> 
> Yes.  Send me a check for $250.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: EDB Size ?
> 
> 
> Can I buy a vowel? 
> 
> > 


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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ken Cornetet
Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue
to bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent
as it appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to
avoid the interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the
exclusion on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent
shouldn't need configuration to exclude drives, that is something done
when specifying a backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an
issue (the basic backup agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what
they found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a
cause not related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It
does not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M:
drive, especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K
SP3 machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non
Exchange files I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if
the AV was allowed to scan the M drive all sorts of things started
locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I
set it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

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organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service
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http://www.telenorbusinesssolutions.co.uk. 

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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the situation. There has
to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody know why this
is by "design"? It does not make sense to me.

john


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or "hangs")
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
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RE: SpamBelt

2003-06-13 Thread Christopher Hummert
Agreed

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William
Lefkovics
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SpamBelt


Spam-by-proxy is still spam. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Importance: High

Forwarded to the list at Stu's request: 


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From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Erik Sojka; Exchange Discussions
Cc: 
Importance: High

Eric,

You are ABSOLUTELY right, and I'm asking David to send an apology to the
same list with an explanation. Up to now they have not answered my
insistent requests. I'm getting very unhappy with their
non-communication, and if this goes on, we will have to resort to other
means.

Thanks for the feedback,

Stu



-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
Subject: RE: SpamBelt



Thanks for the response, Stu.  

I'd like to add something.  There are some other staff at my company who
got the same message I refer to below (mentioning the IHS product, and
requesting them to stop by at the MecEd conference).  These people did
*not* attend MecEd and should *not* have been on a list of people who
were registered to do so.  Yet they got this spam.  Why is that?

As to the response from David Cragg:  If it smells like a duck then it
is a duck.  

How would any right minded email administrator be expected to react to a
message with a "throwaway" address as a reply-to?  This tactic of using
several domains in the headers, from/reply-to addresses, etc. is the
exact same tactic that a chickenboner spammer uses.  Why use them?  

Stu, your company's credibility as a whitehat supplier of anti-spam
products is seriously on the line.  From a spam recipient's or victim's
perspective, what is the difference between your product and the way in
which the ad was delivered vs. any of the chickenboners who are also
spamming for an antispam solution?





> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> We admit that this looked like spam a lot. I actually
> called the people who sent it for us and complained.
> The company who own this database and emailed it for
> us are MSD2D, they have worked for years for Microsoft building their 
> trade show list and catalogs. That's why you are on their list.
> 
> Here is included the answer from their Pres, who explained why it
> looks like this.
> 
> -
> "In response to your email today I admit that it has the appearance of

> Spam. We apologize for that. We usually send these type of 
> announcements with our reply address but it was a last minute mailer 
> and we had already use our regular mail box for our weekly Security 
> newsletter. It was important that we get that notice out to people who

> we thought might be attending Tech-Ed as Sunbelt was accidentally left

> out of a proper position in the Microsoft Exchange Directory. "
> David Cragg
> President
> -
> 
> Understandably you assumed it was spam, with a juno address as the
> sender. Turns out this -is- what they use for their returns. An 
> unfortunate choice to say the least. Hope this clarifies the 
> situation.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Stu


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RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Well, if you're planning to install Exchange 2000 in a Windows 2003 domain
you cannot install it on a domain controller.  There are two good reasons,
in my opinion, to avoid installing Exchange on a domain controller.  First,
it complicates disaster recovery because there will be extra steps in
getting AD back running on the machine.  Second, performance will suffer
when the machine is heavily loaded, a disadvantage that doesn't really apply
if your server is overpowered.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronk
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest


Thanks Ed you have confirmed my thoughts about this. I have had another
admin from another site tell me that you don't want to install AD on the
exchange server, but my anwser to him was why do we have AD if you aren't
going to use it. Thanks Much Ronk

> You don't need to do anything until you want to install Exchange 2000, 
> = at which point you must run the usual setup /forestprep and setup =
> /domainprep.
> Actually, I've seen it recommended that you run update /forestprep and
> update /domainprep from the Exchange 2000 SP3 CD.  I don't believe you =
> need
> to run adprep unless you're installing Exchange 2003 in a Windows 2000
> forest.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronk
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest
> 
> 
> All I have a question about the installation of a windows 2000 server 
> = that will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 forest. Before 
> I do a dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest and domain do 
> I need = to
> run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all is updated to the new =
> 2003
> schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its course. =
> I
> know I have to do forestprep when I install exchange but am not sure if =
> I
> need to prepare the 2000 server before I bring it into AD. Any help is
> appreciated. Thanks In Advance Ronk
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RE: SpamBelt

2003-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics
Spam-by-proxy is still spam. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Importance: High

Forwarded to the list at Stu's request: 


-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Erik Sojka; Exchange Discussions
Cc: 
Importance: High

Eric,

You are ABSOLUTELY right, and I'm asking David to send an apology to the
same list with an explanation. Up to now they have not answered my insistent
requests. I'm getting very unhappy with their non-communication, and if this
goes on, we will have to resort to other means.

Thanks for the feedback,

Stu



-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
Subject: RE: SpamBelt



Thanks for the response, Stu.  

I'd like to add something.  There are some other staff at my company who
got the same message I refer to below (mentioning the IHS product, and
requesting them to stop by at the MecEd conference).  These people did
*not* attend MecEd and should *not* have been on a list of people who
were registered to do so.  Yet they got this spam.  Why is that?

As to the response from David Cragg:  If it smells like a duck then it
is a duck.  

How would any right minded email administrator be expected to react to a
message with a "throwaway" address as a reply-to?  This tactic of using
several domains in the headers, from/reply-to addresses, etc. is the
exact same tactic that a chickenboner spammer uses.  Why use them?  

Stu, your company's credibility as a whitehat supplier of anti-spam
products is seriously on the line.  From a spam recipient's or victim's
perspective, what is the difference between your product and the way in
which the ad was delivered vs. any of the chickenboners who are also
spamming for an antispam solution?





> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> We admit that this looked like spam a lot. I actually
> called the people who sent it for us and complained.
> The company who own this database and emailed it for
> us are MSD2D, they have worked for years for Microsoft
> building their trade show list and catalogs. That's why
> you are on their list.
> 
> Here is included the answer from their Pres, who explained why it 
> looks like this.
> 
> -
> "In response to your email today I admit that it has the
> appearance of Spam. We apologize for that. We usually send 
> these type of announcements with our reply address but it 
> was a last minute mailer and we had already use our regular 
> mail box for our weekly Security newsletter. It was important 
> that we get that notice out to people who we thought might be 
> attending Tech-Ed as Sunbelt was accidentally left out of a 
> proper position in the Microsoft Exchange Directory. "
> David Cragg
> President
> -
> 
> Understandably you assumed it was spam, with a juno address as the 
> sender. Turns out this -is- what they use for their returns. An 
> unfortunate choice to say the least. Hope this clarifies the 
> situation.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Stu


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FW: SpamBelt

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
Forwarded to the list at Stu's request: 


-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Erik Sojka; Exchange Discussions
Cc: 
Importance: High

Eric,

You are ABSOLUTELY right, and I'm asking David to send
an apology to the same list with an explanation. Up to
now they have not answered my insistent requests. I'm
getting very unhappy with their non-communication, and
if this goes on, we will have to resort to other means.

Thanks for the feedback,

Stu



-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
Subject: RE: SpamBelt



Thanks for the response, Stu.  

I'd like to add something.  There are some other staff at my company who
got the same message I refer to below (mentioning the IHS product, and
requesting them to stop by at the MecEd conference).  These people did
*not* attend MecEd and should *not* have been on a list of people who
were registered to do so.  Yet they got this spam.  Why is that?

As to the response from David Cragg:  If it smells like a duck then it
is a duck.  

How would any right minded email administrator be expected to react to a
message with a "throwaway" address as a reply-to?  This tactic of using
several domains in the headers, from/reply-to addresses, etc. is the
exact same tactic that a chickenboner spammer uses.  Why use them?  

Stu, your company's credibility as a whitehat supplier of anti-spam
products is seriously on the line.  From a spam recipient's or victim's
perspective, what is the difference between your product and the way in
which the ad was delivered vs. any of the chickenboners who are also
spamming for an antispam solution?





> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> We admit that this looked like spam a lot. I actually
> called the people who sent it for us and complained.
> The company who own this database and emailed it for
> us are MSD2D, they have worked for years for Microsoft
> building their trade show list and catalogs. That's why
> you are on their list.
> 
> Here is included the answer from their Pres, who explained why it 
> looks like this.
> 
> -
> "In response to your email today I admit that it has the
> appearance of Spam. We apologize for that. We usually send 
> these type of announcements with our reply address but it 
> was a last minute mailer and we had already use our regular 
> mail box for our weekly Security newsletter. It was important 
> that we get that notice out to people who we thought might be 
> attending Tech-Ed as Sunbelt was accidentally left out of a 
> proper position in the Microsoft Exchange Directory. "
> David Cragg
> President
> -
> 
> Understandably you assumed it was spam, with a juno address as the 
> sender. Turns out this -is- what they use for their returns. An 
> unfortunate choice to say the least. Hope this clarifies the 
> situation.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Stu
> 
> ***
> Stu Sjouwerman - Founder, Chief Operating Off.
> Sunbelt Software, # 409 in the Inc. 500 List ~
> Editor W2Knews: 500,000 readers every week.
> Publisher WinXPnews, 2Million subscribers
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Voice: 1-727-562-0101 x218 or (888) NT UTILS
> Fax:   1-727-562-5199 or (877) 736-3444
> Web: http://www.sunbelt-software.com
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> 
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RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Ronk
Thanks Ed you have confirmed my thoughts about this. I have had another
admin from another site tell me that you don't want to install AD on the
exchange server, but my anwser to him was why do we have AD if you aren't
going to use it.
Thanks Much
Ronk

> You don't need to do anything until you want to install Exchange 2000, =
> at
> which point you must run the usual setup /forestprep and setup =
> /domainprep.
> Actually, I've seen it recommended that you run update /forestprep and
> update /domainprep from the Exchange 2000 SP3 CD.  I don't believe you =
> need
> to run adprep unless you're installing Exchange 2003 in a Windows 2000
> forest.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronk
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest
> 
> 
> All I have a question about the installation of a windows 2000 server =
> that
> will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 forest. Before I do a
> dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest and domain do I need =
> to
> run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all is updated to the new =
> 2003
> schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its course. =
> I
> know I have to do forestprep when I install exchange but am not sure if =
> I
> need to prepare the 2000 server before I bring it into AD. Any help is
> appreciated. Thanks In Advance Ronk
> 
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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Neil Hobson
More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue
to bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent
as it appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to
avoid the interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the
exclusion on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent
shouldn't need configuration to exclude drives, that is something done
when specifying a backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an
issue (the basic backup agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what
they found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a
cause not related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It
does not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M:
drive, especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K
SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange
files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was
allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I
set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

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RE: remote mail options

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
I am not sure about SBS but standard Exchange supports POP and IMAP (which I
would recommend above POP) clients, but do realize that neither supports
full Outlook function.  Just set them up.  Refer to the FAQ referenced below
for information on how to set up authentication.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: remote mail options


We have Exchange 2000 and use OWA (SBS2000). Is there any way to setup
Outlook to access exchage info remotely. Such as a POP type connection? If a
computer is connected to an NT Domain (the remote office) and then connects
to the SBS2000 server via VPN, can I then just plug in the exchange server
info in Outlook? I know you cannot connect another Domain to SBS2000 but was
wounder if there is a better way to access email from a "small" remote
office.

Thanks!

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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue to
bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It does
not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M: drive,
especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

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RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Okay, so now I understand.  But I don't see how you have any choice here
since the mail to which you are referring doesn't ever pass through your
Exchange Server.  If you're asking whether it should, and your users should
be allowed to pull it using POP from outside locations, then, given the
limitations in your environment, I'd say it's probably the lesser of two
evils to allow it.  That is, if they can already get into the central Unix
mail server and pull using POP from the outside, what's the added risk of
exposing your server to the same thing?  You could force the use of SSL so
that an intruder will attack the easier central mail server target
(presuming they allow non-SSL access to POP).

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!™


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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Ok Im getting tired and its late and I've been here at work since 8:00am.
I'm going to try one more time to clear this up. 
Campus email servers are OpenBSD something or other.  They forward mail to
my exchange server via SMTP. (not the problem) Users inside my firewall that
don't use my exchange server get their mail from the main campus OpenBSD
email server via POP. (the problem) Therefore bypassing my ability to strip
there harmful attachments.  

Matt




-Original Message-
From: deji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Then in this case I would say it does not matter whether they POP, PIP, or
personally imbibe it, IF your exchange server's AV signature doesn't catch
the Virus, the client will get it.

All the mails go through your Exchange server. Concentrate your efforts on
making your AV work better on the server, and stop worrying about a
non-issue.

HTH

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
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Yesterday?  -anon


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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

The reason I asked the original question is because I work at a .EDU All
mail goes to a [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on a central campus server. From
there people either have their mail forwarded to their department mail
server like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my exchange server) address or use
POP to down load their mail from the campus server.  I have been trying to
get management to force everyone to go through my exchange server so my
firewall can strip all those bad attachment types.  As it is a virus can
sneak into my network with an attachment through POP.  All my anti-virus
software is set to update daily but if a new virus is able to make it in via
POP before my anti-virus software updates.  BAM  lots and lots of work
:(

Matt




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From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


I think the original question must have related to POPing out for personal
mail, because otherwise the normal attachment stripping would occur. Clearly
if you're just popping into your regular Exchange mailbox, you're just as
protected from viruses as you are accessing it any other way.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 14:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Allowing employees to POP personal mail?  Hmmm I didn't see that in the
question but it's als a bad idea...

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:46 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> I believe the question here was specifically whether to allow internal
> POP clients to pull their mail (personal, presumably) from
> outside sources.  To
> that, I would agree it is a very poor idea to allow that.
>
> As to whether to allow POP usage from outside, I would also agree that

> allowing it is a poor idea, but there are ways to make it not so poor.

> Even though it is primative, POP is still a protocol that is necessary

> for clients running on non-Windows platforms.  You can configure
> Exchange 2000 to support only POP with SSL, somewhat reducing the 
> vulnerability, or, better yet, allow it only through a VPN.  Still, I 
> would be encouraging such
> users to try to use IMAP instead, but it is not without its
> risks as well.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eri

RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
You don't need to do anything until you want to install Exchange 2000, at
which point you must run the usual setup /forestprep and setup /domainprep.
Actually, I've seen it recommended that you run update /forestprep and
update /domainprep from the Exchange 2000 SP3 CD.  I don't believe you need
to run adprep unless you're installing Exchange 2003 in a Windows 2000
forest.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest


All I have a question about the installation of a windows 2000 server that
will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 forest. Before I do a
dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest and domain do I need to
run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all is updated to the new 2003
schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its course. I
know I have to do forestprep when I install exchange but am not sure if I
need to prepare the 2000 server before I bring it into AD. Any help is
appreciated. Thanks In Advance Ronk

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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or "hangs")
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
kbZNotKeyword2 


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