RE: NDR

[Drewski]

Is this the sort of error that might occur if the SENDER's limit has been
reached, but "Restrict Sending" hasn't been selected?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pillai, Raj
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NDR


Honest, it is the whole NDR.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NDR


Doesn't look like the whole NDR there either.  Had you posted the whole
thing, we could probably tell you exactly who has a full mailbox.  But it's
not unclear at all - someone has a full mb.

-Original Message-
From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NDR


One of our users is getting the following message when she sends our updated
intranet web page  to the everyone group in our firm.
However, everyone is getting the page she is sending, no one has complained
that they are not ( this is something which is done at certain time daily).
I checked the eventviewer , there are no error messages. Mail box limits is
set to default for all users (set by my predecessor- no policy defined yet).


Exchange 5.5 sp4. Windows NT Server.


//-Original Message-
From: postmaster [mailto:postmaster]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:28 AM
To: Robinson, Wendy
Subject: Mail delivery failure


Sent >>> .
Received <<< 552 Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation

Could not deliver mail to this user.
* End of message ***/


Any help would be appreciated.

Raj



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RE: Burning PST files.

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When you copied it to the CD, it became read-only.  When you copied it back, it
stayed read only.  Outlook needs to be able to write to the file.  Remove the
read-only attribute, and you'll be fine.

So the answer is "Yes, it's possible to burn PST files to CD and still use them,
after you copy them back off the CD and change them to not be read-only".

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of McCready, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Burning PST files.


Is it possible to burn PST files to a CD and still use them?  We have some
users with very large PST files that
are gobbling up server space.  We tried burning a PST file to a CD, but we
were then unable to access it.
Even after copying the file back to their home drive and trying to take
ownership of it.  Has anybody had any
success with this?

Exchange 5.5 SP4, NT 4.0 SP6.

Thanks.

Robert

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RE: IMS Will start and then stop with event ID 4116

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At some point, the amount of money this outage is costing will be more than the
$225 to call.  After all, you're not free...

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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:20 PM
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Tried, my management said try other things first.
> 
> Why not just call PSS?
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> Hehehe  Microsoft site sucks...  Is there anyway that you can post to
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RE: OWA Hanging

[Drewski]

Spread it on the monitor, let it cool, and you're secure, baby!  And, if you're
in the office late, you have something to snack on as well!

Don't worry about it going bad -- there's nothing organic in there anyway...

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Hanging


I use Kraft Macaroni and Cheese with little bits of ham in it.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Hanging


I use the  "Logon Screen Saver" w/o any issues.


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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Hanging


Martin,

You are preaching to the choir. A state auditor came through one day and
told my boss that ALL systems have to be secured with a screen saver and
password. Never mind that the system is in a locked secure building that
requires ID and a security card to access. Our head admin at the time
thought that it was a good idea as well.

At least I was able to talk them out of using the 3D pipes eventually. :)

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) Vancouver,
Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:08 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: OWA Hanging

OK, first things first. You do not use screen savers on servers. They hog
CPU time and are inherently buggy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Hanging


I just finished fighting this very same thing. I wish that I had some words
of wisdom to impart. I had the same thing running here with the exception
that my Exchange was at sp4.

We had it on a server that also hosted our web page as well. As you said
everyday or so it would just hang. I would go to the server and the screen
saver was just frozen. I even tried to login and wait for it to take effect
thinking that it may just be slow. No dice. I would have to hit the power
and bring it back up. It would run again for from 5 minutes to 13 days.
Again, no rhyme or reason as far as I could tell. The box sat outside the
firewall and communicated via Cisco's VPN client.

I have since removed it from that server and brought it up on a new server
and had no problems. I have no idea what caused the old one to lock up or
why this one is working and the other one did not. The Internet is still
being served from the old one and has not locked up as far as I know since I
took OWA off of it. I see no change in the event logs from then to now.

Ken Powell
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Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) Vancouver,
Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:03 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: OWA Hanging

I'm currently running OWA (Ex.5.5 - SP3) on an NT4.0 SP6a system.  PIII, 866
with 1 gb memory...  On multiple occasions (mostly weekends) the system will
hang and our clients are unable to connect to to the system to get their
mail.

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RE: OWA Hanging

[Drewski]

even the login screen saver?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Hanging


OK, first things first. You do not use screen savers on servers. They hog
CPU time and are inherently buggy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:45 AM
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I just finished fighting this very same thing. I wish that I had some words
of wisdom to impart. I had the same thing running here with the exception
that my Exchange was at sp4.

We had it on a server that also hosted our web page as well. As you said
everyday or so it would just hang. I would go to the server and the screen
saver was just frozen. I even tried to login and wait for it to take effect
thinking that it may just be slow. No dice. I would have to hit the power
and bring it back up. It would run again for from 5 minutes to 13 days.
Again, no rhyme or reason as far as I could tell. The box sat outside the
firewall and communicated via Cisco's VPN client.

I have since removed it from that server and brought it up on a new server
and had no problems. I have no idea what caused the old one to lock up or
why this one is working and the other one did not. The Internet is still
being served from the old one and has not locked up as far as I know since I
took OWA off of it. I see no change in the event logs from then to now.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) Vancouver,
Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:03 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: OWA Hanging

I'm currently running OWA (Ex.5.5 - SP3) on an NT4.0 SP6a system.  PIII, 866
with 1 gb memory...  On multiple occasions (mostly weekends) the system will
hang and our clients are unable to connect to to the system to get their
mail.

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RE: Win 95 Outlook 2000 Clients unable to connect to Exchange 5.5

[Drewski]

what's different about those three servers?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Williams
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Win 95 Outlook 2000 Clients unable to connect to Exchange 5.5


We have a very weird problem at the moment.

We have 4 servers of which 3 have been migrated to new hardware and the
data is held within a SAN. The servers are performing well and servicing
clients.

However, it seems to be only on a Saturday night, we get occurences of
Win95 clients running Outlook 2000 not being able to connect to Exchange.
If the server is rebooted they then can access their mail, if Outlook is
reinstalled on the client they can also access their mail.

There is nothing at all appearing in the event logs on the Exchange
servers so we are a little stumped on this one.

Our other users using Win2K and NT don't seem to be affected and the 4th
server which hasn't been migrated yet is also not affected.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks

Darren

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RE: Exchange and Mac client

[Drewski]

no, but if you changed the IP address of your Exchange server, you'll have to
change that record on the HOST file on the Mac, I bet...

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Risnoveanu
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Exchange and Mac client


I use pacbell,s DNS and I don't have any problem with any other pc clients.
Do they have to ad an MX record for this client alone.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:55 PM
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Could be A DNS problem. Maybe you need to add an MX record to your DNS

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange and Mac client


I have exchange 5.5 and recently I had to reinstall the server. I have one
Mac client and I can send e-mail inside my lan or receive mail from
outside my lan but I can not send e-mail outside the lan.
Can anybody help.
Thank you.

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RE: French restrictions

[Drewski]

This from a country that represses freedom of speech?

Martin's right, talk to an international law lawyer.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam Romain
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: French restrictions


We have a customer based in the UK, who has a branch office in France.
We supply them with content and web access control for the whole
company.

In France though, we have been told that we cannot filter web-access,
i.e. use products like Web-sense etc. because of their human rights.
Same applies to emails.

We are getting mixed answers from people in France and the people in the
UK.

Is this bull, or is there some sort of freedom of access there ?



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RE: Retiring Employess

[Drewski]

burn it to CD.  I doubt he's under 10MB, and if he's on dialup, that's gonna
suck.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 4:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Retiring Employess


Most of his e-mail are list servers news groups (MRTG, Exchange, MQSeries &
etc.) I was thinking of just creating a single PST file and dump all of his
e-mail into and then zip them.  His home e-mail account is a POP 3 with a
10Meg Byte limit.  Would this work?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Retiring Employess


I agree with the others - I wouldn't forward selected e-mail.  If he wants
his entire mailbox on a .PST I'd do that for him (assuming there's nothing
in it that is company property and that we don't want him taking off-site)
but I'm not going to waste my time picking through his Inbox looking for
messages from his niece to forward to him.

If it's that important to him he can forward it to his personal mail account
himself.  Otherwise I'd hand him a CD with the .PST on it and wish him well.

We have, on occasion, created a custom recipient with the SMTP address of
the departing employee and, for a limited time (maybe a few weeks) had it
auto-forward all inbound mail for that person to their home address so that
they could be sure they notified all of their friends/family/mailing lists
that they have a new address.

After a set period of time (3-5 weeks, usually) we kill that CR, though, so
anybody they haven't notified by then is SOL.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject: Retiring Employess
>
>
> How would you go about forwarding selected e-mail to a users
> home.  All the e-mail is now currently residing on the
> Exchange Serve (5.5).  The user does NOT want to go thru each
> message and forward it to his home e-mail account.
>
> 2nd question how do you unload his Outlook Contact folder and
> send it to his home via e-mail?
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RE: Backups Checklist

[Drewski]

Alas, I have no hottub.  But I do have broadband internet access.  How you doin'
with that, hoss?  :P

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-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backups Checklist


Thank you for that update.

But do you work remotely from the hottub, like Mr Miller?

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backups Checklist


Proof!  Vindication!  :)  Anyway, I haven't been in a position to build a
real server for nearly a year (working remotely), so I haven't had to think
about it lately...

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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Backups Checklist


I've had that happen.  The first ProLiant I got had the infamous Western
Digital 2GB drives.  Four of the five failed, although each at a different
time so I never lost the RAID array!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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Well, I have heard of drives that were all from one "batch" all failing at
once or close to each-other.  On the extremely off chance of that happening,
I always loaded my servers with drives that had non-sequential serial
numbers, if I had them...

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to
interpret law."- George W. Bush, Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000

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RE: Backups Checklist

[Drewski]

Proof!  Vindication!  :)  Anyway, I haven't been in a position to build a real
server for nearly a year (working remotely), so I haven't had to think about it
lately...

-- Drew

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Backups Checklist


I've had that happen.  The first ProLiant I got had the infamous Western
Digital 2GB drives.  Four of the five failed, although each at a
different time so I never lost the RAID array!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:13 PM
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Well, I have heard of drives that were all from one "batch" all failing
at once or close to each-other.  On the extremely off chance of that
happening, I always loaded my servers with drives that had
non-sequential serial numbers, if I had them...

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job
to interpret law."- George W. Bush, Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000

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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:49 PM
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It matters when you buy the drives?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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No, the answer is: "Put your log files on a seperate set of spindles
that you bought at a different time than the spindles the IS is on and
you should be ok."

-- Drew

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RE: Backups Checklist

[Drewski]

Well, I have heard of drives that were all from one "batch" all failing at once
or close to each-other.  On the extremely off chance of that happening, I always
loaded my servers with drives that had non-sequential serial numbers, if I had
them...

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to
interpret law."- George W. Bush, Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000

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It matters when you buy the drives?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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No, the answer is: "Put your log files on a seperate set of spindles
that you bought at a different time than the spindles the IS is on and
you should be ok."

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of
corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the
country will endeavor to prolong its reign... until all wealth is
aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this
moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even
in the midst of war. -- Abraham Lincoln

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Haaker
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Backups Checklist


you mean the one log file that is being written to at the time of the
backup? Magic, of course! Hmmm Good question . . . Open File Agent? But
then I need ArcServe or BE right? Do *you* know the answer? Besides an
OFFLINE backup?

LOL

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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: Backups Checklist


> Again -- how are you going to back up the log files while they're in
> use?
>
> -- Drew
> 
> Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
> "Ook." - The Librarian.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mood, Steve
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backups Checklist
>
>
> The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming
> hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the

> system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous

> night and
replay
> the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended
> configuration) to get it back to its most current state.  As I
> understand it.
>
> If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you
would
> not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the
> corruption.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Backups Checklist
>
>
> THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my
> questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups

> every night do I need to worry
about
> turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each
night
> after they are backed up? Correct?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mood, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM
> Subject: RE: Backups Checklist
>
>
> > And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log
> > file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in
> > event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to
> > do).
> >
> > I always work better with big pretty pictures.
> >
> > http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Backups Checklist
> >
> >
> > If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files?
> >
> >
> > -Orig

RE: Backups Checklist

[Drewski]

No, the answer is: "Put your log files on a seperate set of spindles that you
bought at a different time than the spindles the IS is on and you should be ok."

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of
corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will
endeavor to prolong its reign... until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands,
and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety
of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. -- Abraham Lincoln

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Haaker
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Backups Checklist


you mean the one log file that is being written to at the time of the
backup? Magic, of course! Hmmm
Good question . . . Open File Agent? But then I need ArcServe or BE right?
Do *you* know the answer? Besides an OFFLINE backup?

LOL

- Original Message -----
From: "Drewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: Backups Checklist


> Again -- how are you going to back up the log files while they're in use?
>
> -- Drew
> 
> Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
> "Ook." - The Librarian.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mood, Steve
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backups Checklist
>
>
> The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware
> failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was
> running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and
replay
> the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended
> configuration) to get it back to its most current state.  As I understand
> it.
>
> If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you
would
> not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the
> corruption.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Backups Checklist
>
>
> THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my
> questions. Only other thing is:
> if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry
about
> turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each
night
> after they are backed up? Correct?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mood, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM
> Subject: RE: Backups Checklist
>
>
> > And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file
> > thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of
> > longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do).
> >
> > I always work better with big pretty pictures.
> >
> > http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Backups Checklist
> >
> >
> > If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files?
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Backups Checklist
> >
> >
> > NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So
if
> I
> > backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and
> then
> > the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no?
> The
> > Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:,
> > logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never
> had
> > to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR "practice"
pursposes.
> > Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing
> anything
> > all of you tried and true backup gurus know of?
> >
> > Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!!
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "Destiny...is not a matter of chance,

RE: Backups Checklist

[Drewski]

Again -- how are you going to back up the log files while they're in use?

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"Ook." - The Librarian.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mood, Steve
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Backups Checklist


The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware
failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was
running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay
the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended
configuration) to get it back to its most current state.  As I understand
it.

If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would
not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the
corruption.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Backups Checklist


THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my
questions. Only other thing is:
if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about
turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night
after they are backed up? Correct?

- Original Message -
From: "Mood, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: Backups Checklist


> And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file
> thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of
> longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do).
>
> I always work better with big pretty pictures.
>
> http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backups Checklist
>
>
> If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Backups Checklist
>
>
> NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if
I
> backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and
then
> the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no?
The
> Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:,
> logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never
had
> to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR "practice" pursposes.
> Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing
anything
> all of you tried and true backup gurus know of?
>
> Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!!
>
> TIA
>
> Chris
>
> "Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice;
>it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved."
>William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician.
>
>
>
>
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RE: Backups Checklist

[Drewski]

How are you going to back up those files while they're in use?

-- Drew

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stand by the President right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but
is mortally treasonable to the American Public."  Theodore Roosevelt

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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: Backups Checklist


I always thought that if you backed up priv.edb at midnight and then
priv.edb goes down at say noon the next day, that rolling back the log files
from midnight to noon when the failure occured would allow you to reclaim
the mail that is not in that restored version of priv.edb?

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: Backups Checklist


> If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Backups Checklist
>
>
> NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if
I
> backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and
then
> the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no?
The
> Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:,
> logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never
had
> to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR "practice" pursposes.
> Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing
anything
> all of you tried and true backup gurus know of?
>
> Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!!
>
> TIA
>
> Chris
>
> "Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice;
>it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved."
>William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician.
>
>
>
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RE: "Unable to Render Folder" in OWA

[Drewski]

you forgot to tell us what version of the OS, Exchange, IIS, and OWA you're
running, for a start...

-- Drew

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country and to mankind is to bring up a family." - George Bernard Shaw

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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: "Unable to Render Folder" in OWA


When use Public Access in OWA to view public folders (Read rights for
Everyone on those), I get an error:  "Unable to render folder.  There are no
published folders."

What did I forget to do?

TIA


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RE: Backing up the Information Store

[Drewski]

You need to be running an Online, Exchange Aware backup.  NTBackup on the
exchange box will be able to do this for you.  Read the Disaster Recovery White
papers, and the FAQ.  Read it.  Love it.  Live it.

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

-- Drew

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you." - Louis "Satchmo" Armstrong

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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backing up the Information Store


Hi, I hope someone can help me with this.
I am using the MS Backup Utility with SBS2000/Windows Server 2000. Despite
ticking the storage group and the exchsvr folder in the program files
folder, the report informs me that the priv1 and pub1.edb and .stm files
(and a number of other .log files) are skipped as they are unable to be
opened. Consequently there are no entries to be found in the Information
store.
I am using Administrator priviledges. I am probably doing something
stupidly wrong, what is it?

Many thanks,

Richard S Kahan

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RE: Sending replies to Exchange List

[Drewski]

um... ok.  Having replies to the list instead of to the writer helps all those
people who have the same question see the answer.

HTML mail is a technology.  People who abuse it are "bad".  People who use it
wisely are fine.

-- Drew

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Luther King, Jr.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Black, Nathan
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Sending replies to Exchange List


MSHTML for email IS bad.

but then, having replies to the list instead of to the writer is bad too,
but nobody follows those old Netiquette rules anyway.  (see the discussions
on FTP vs. SMTP)

When the admin interface got GUI, intelligence went out the 'Windows' (TM).

Nathan

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:30 PM
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>
>
> Because the people in charge of the list seem to thing that
> HTML mail is bad.
>
> -- Drew
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> Honesty is not only the best policy, it is rare enough today
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Skip Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:15 PM
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> OK, I expect to get beat up on this one.
>
> Why do I get the following message when I try to post or reply to this
> list from Outlook instead of using the web based interface?
> I've tried
> plain text and it still does not work.
>
> Sorry, your stylized text, or HTML mail can not be distributed through
> the Internet.Com.
>
> The only acceptable format for posting to the Internet.Com is
> ASCII Text.
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> Please, re-send your post to continue your discussion on the
> Internet.Com.
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RE: Sending replies to Exchange List

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Because the people in charge of the list seem to thing that HTML mail is bad.

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OK, I expect to get beat up on this one.

Why do I get the following message when I try to post or reply to this
list from Outlook instead of using the web based interface?  I've tried
plain text and it still does not work.

Sorry, your stylized text, or HTML mail can not be distributed through
the Internet.Com.

The only acceptable format for posting to the Internet.Com is ASCII Text.

Please, re-send your post to continue your discussion on the
Internet.Com.

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RE: HELP!!!

[Drewski]

Yeah.  POPConnectors suck.

I'd attempt to get things on an always on connection.

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:46 PM
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Subject: HELP!!!


Hey, I'm new to the exchange game and have a little problem. I have a small
business server running exchange. The company has an ISP that it connects to
for POP3 server. They periodically have problems forwarding and receiving
e-mail. They basically have problems receiving mail from other
companies.Does anyone have any ideas

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Integrate SP2 with installation of Exchange


No.

Hunter

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Is this possible like it is with service pack and windows?

tnx



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RE: Backup

[Drewski]

Literally.

Ouch!

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It also means he can't do a full recovery of his mail server unless he is
also doing a backup of the DS/IS as well.
Besides, Incrementals bite.


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you are obviously doing a brick level backup, i think this also means you
are unable to do an incremental.

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RE: how could this be?

[Drewski]

Not if there's NO name in the TO address.

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:08 PM
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But wouldn't it have the correct name in the "To" address even if it was
BCC?

Bill Lambert
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how could this be?


BCC

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> Environment:  E5.5 Sp4, NT4 Sp6a, OL 2002
>
> A user received an email addressed to someone else in our
> company.  It went
> directly to her and not the intended reciever.   It actually had the
> intended reciever in the "To" address but was delivered to
> someone else entirely.  However, there was a typo in the
> domain portion of the addresee. Instead of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] it read [EMAIL PROTECTED]  No
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> Stumped,
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RE: High Physical Memory Utilization

[Drewski]

Shhh!  You'll drown out the other voices as well!

-- Drew

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heritage of all men, in all lands, everywhere. Destroy this spirit and you have
planted the seeds of despotism around your own doors. --Abraham Lincoln

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:42 PM
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Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


Explorer talks to you?


-Original Message-
From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


4079 recipients in the, opps just got 2 more, 4081 recipients. Taskmgr
says I have 523,700 Total Physical memory, Explorer says my priv is
85,754,376kb

Looks like I do?

Milton R Dogg
Of The Dogg Foundation..


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No you don't.

-Original Message-
From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


I have 4000 users running off of less then a Gig or ram. And almost a
gig Page file. How many users you planning maintaining?

Milton R Dogg
Of The Dogg Foundation..



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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:48 PM
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400 Mailboxes and 1 gig of Ram does not sound right.  Your primary
problem is hardware.

This is my minimum recommendation for your hardware requirements.

Dual Pentium III 550 +
Separate Raid Controller running in Raid 5 config.  (2 partitions
logical) 2 Gig physical memory. 3 Gig Page File on second partition Run
optimizer and move the databases and log files to 2nd partition.


-Original Message-
From: Frazer J Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: High Physical Memory Utilization


One of my colleagues recently reinstalled a 5.5 SP4 Exchange Server on
NT4 SP5 (only Exchange was reinstalled) and have noticed that the
Physical Memory Utilization sits at around 99% (prior to the rebuild it
was around 60%).  The server has about 400 mailboxes on it and has 1Gb
of physical memory and 1Gb page file.  It is the same spec as 4 other
servers in the site which all sit at around 60% utilization.  As it is a
24x7 service we offer on our server, down time is very limited.  Is
there any way I can check the performance optimizer settings without
stopping the store? Or are there any other pointers that anyone can
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RE: High Physical Memory Utilization

[Drewski]

What are you saving that 99% processor and 20% RAM for, exactly?

-- Drew

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this new war on terrorism. We will lose that war without firing a shot if we
sacrifice the liberties of the American people." -Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI),
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-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:40 PM
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Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


Excuse me for doubting but I can only base my assumptions on real world
experience.  I know for a fact that a typical Exchange Box with Mailboxes
providing Mapi based services with a 4 gig priv will run around 800 meg ram
utilization.  With two processors and a raid controller  on this box your
would drastically reduce the disk i/o activity on this box which equates to
cooler drives and a longer lasting exchange box.  Maybe it's overkill but
I'd much rather have an Exchange Box running at 1% processor utilization and
have 20% of my physical ram free.

Thanks.
Brian Murphy, MCSE, CCNA, CCA
Director of Network Services
Privacy Officer
Carter Bloodcare (www.carterbloodcare.org)
817.412.5406


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


Do you doubt the Word of the Dogg???

A spanking!  A spanking!!!

-- Drew

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His enemies are not demons, but human beings like himself.  He doesn't wish
them
personal harm.  Nor does he rejoice in victory.  How could he rejoice in
victory
and delight in the slaughter of men? (Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching)

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No you don't.

-Original Message-
From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


I have 4000 users running off of less then a Gig or ram. And almost a
gig Page file. How many users you planning maintaining?

Milton R Dogg
Of The Dogg Foundation..



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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400 Mailboxes and 1 gig of Ram does not sound right.  Your primary
problem is hardware.

This is my minimum recommendation for your hardware requirements.

Dual Pentium III 550 +
Separate Raid Controller running in Raid 5 config.  (2 partitions
logical) 2 Gig physical memory. 3 Gig Page File on second partition Run
optimizer and move the databases and log files to 2nd partition.


-Original Message-
From: Frazer J Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: High Physical Memory Utilization


One of my colleagues recently reinstalled a 5.5 SP4 Exchange Server on
NT4 SP5 (only Exchange was reinstalled) and have noticed that the
Physical Memory Utilization sits at around 99% (prior to the rebuild it
was around 60%).  The server has about 400 mailboxes on it and has 1Gb
of physical memory and 1Gb page file.  It is the same spec as 4 other
servers in the site which all sit at around 60% utilization.  As it is a
24x7 service we offer on our server, down time is very limited.  Is
there any way I can check the performance optimizer settings without
stopping the store? Or are there any other pointers that anyone can
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RE: High Physical Memory Utilization

[Drewski]

Do you doubt the Word of the Dogg???

A spanking!  A spanking!!!

-- Drew

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and delight in the slaughter of men? (Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching)

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No you don't.

-Original Message-
From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


I have 4000 users running off of less then a Gig or ram. And almost a
gig Page file. How many users you planning maintaining?

Milton R Dogg
Of The Dogg Foundation..



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:48 PM
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Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


400 Mailboxes and 1 gig of Ram does not sound right.  Your primary
problem is hardware.

This is my minimum recommendation for your hardware requirements.

Dual Pentium III 550 +
Separate Raid Controller running in Raid 5 config.  (2 partitions
logical) 2 Gig physical memory. 3 Gig Page File on second partition Run
optimizer and move the databases and log files to 2nd partition.


-Original Message-
From: Frazer J Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: High Physical Memory Utilization


One of my colleagues recently reinstalled a 5.5 SP4 Exchange Server on
NT4 SP5 (only Exchange was reinstalled) and have noticed that the
Physical Memory Utilization sits at around 99% (prior to the rebuild it
was around 60%).  The server has about 400 mailboxes on it and has 1Gb
of physical memory and 1Gb page file.  It is the same spec as 4 other
servers in the site which all sit at around 60% utilization.  As it is a
24x7 service we offer on our server, down time is very limited.  Is
there any way I can check the performance optimizer settings without
stopping the store? Or are there any other pointers that anyone can
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RE: Slightly OT: PST policies

[Drewski]

Find a way to upgrade the system somehow, and tell them that PSTs are unable to
work properly with the new system.

It's the truth, sort of...

-- Drew

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rule." -- Albert Einstein

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cook, David A.
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:34 PM
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Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies


I have read all those things about PST=BAD and I have used all of those.
I gave my suggestion of do not allow any PSTs and I was told that we
have to allow PSTs. The reasons is the best part of the whole thing,
"they have always been able to use PSTs so we can't take that away from
them". Politics is the problem.

The more I'm thinking about this the madder it makes me. I've given this
recommendation before and then this time I was asked to give the
recommendation again so it could be taking to the powers that be. I give
my recommendation and I'm told it is not acceptable. I'm pretty much
being given the recommandation and being told that it is my
recommendation now justify it. I can't justify the wrong decision.

So that was my rant that you all could care less about but thank you
everyone for the input.


Dave Cook
Exchange Administrator
Kutak Rock, LLP
402-231-8352
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies


Have you gone through the FAQ on why PST=BAD?  If you have an Exchange
Server and you don't restrict people's mailboxes to a ridiculous size,
there
is absolutely no reason for you to use PSTs.  Offline users can work off
of
their OSTs.  Why is not possible to get rid of them?  What is their
argument?  They want to have a safe virus-scanner-free place to store
their
games and exes?  They prefer to utilize more disk space?  They want to
provide job security to low level admins who try to recover corrupt
PSTs?
They are comfortable NOT backing up PSTs for users that don't logoff
from
Outlook?  What is their rationale?

S

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From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slightly OT: PST policies


After much complaining about PST usage on our network I have finally
been
asked to give my recommendation on PST files. My recommendation of not
allowing them at all was shot down as not possible. I now turn to you
guys
to find out what you do about PST usage.

I would like to limit the size of the PST files that we use but the only
way
I know of that I can do this is based on quotas on the drives where they
are
stored. The only other way to enforce this would be to monitor it and
yell
at the people that get large PSTs.

I think I'm running into what I have read many times on this list and I
will
probably get it wrong. "There is no technological solution to a
behavioral
problem"

Dave Cook
Exchange Administrator
Kutak Rock, LLP
402-231-8352
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RE: Backup

[Drewski]

What kind of backup are you running?

-- Drew

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steck, Steffen
M.
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup


Hi there,
I am having probs with the backup of my XCNG 5.5 Sp4 on NT4Sp6. I have a
priv.edb of approximately 23 GB size. Besides is only the OS and little more
(antivirus etc) on the machine. The machine itself is a P3 Xeon with 500 Mhz
and 512 MB RAM. It has an DLT 80 and uses backup software Veritas Backup
Exec Multiserver 7.3.
The problem: The backup of the Exchange Mailboxes lasts 12 hours, the whole
filesystem (27 GB) is being taped in half an hour. Why does take so long to
read out the mailboxes of the information store?
Anybody seen this or any idea?
Thx in advance
Steffen


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RE: Users Mailbox

[Drewski]

Need more info.

Did his account change recently?  Version of client?   Version of server?
Events?  Color of socks?

-- Drew

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Libi Maniace
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Users Mailbox


I have a user who gets an error message when he tries to open
His outlook today and the public folders. It says that he does not
Have permissions. Also is seems as though so of his mail is not
In the personal folder. Can anyone help me with this..

Thanks
Libi



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RE: OWA Login?

[Drewski]

Maybe on that machine she told it to do the auto-fill thingy?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shields, Anthony
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:42 AM
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Subject: OWA Login?


Morning,

I have an interesting dilemma.  Running E2k.  One of my employees recently redid
her home computer.  Now when she goes to check her email from home using OWA,
she is not prompted for username / password - it takes her straight to her
inbox.  She has DSL/Cable.

I thought perhaps she had 'saved' her username and password, but on my home
computer, the login box still appears - just filled out.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.  If you checks her email at a different
machine - she is prompted.


Tony

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RE: Cannot Recover Deleted Items with W2k Workstation

[Drewski]

Search the knowledge base for Dumpsteralwaysone.

FAQ.  Read it.  Love it.  Live it.

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Ash
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot Recover Deleted Items with W2k Workstation


I cant find the key ... Remind me where it should be ???

> -Original Message-
> From: Olds, Dominic [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:59 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Cannot Recover Deleted Items with W2k Workstation
>
> Do you have the "DumpsterAlwaysOn" registry entry set?
>
> I have seen this work with the versions you mention.
>
> Regards
>
> Dom.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Darren Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 10 January 2002 07:55
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Cannot Recover Deleted Items with W2k Workstation
>
>
>
>   All
>
>   I have a problem where as I cannot recover deleted items using
> Outlook 97 on a W2K workstation (the option just isn't there !). I get the
> option from any other machine (NT4/98) and therefore can log into one of
> those to recover the items, however does anyone know why this should
> happen
> ??? (Server is NT4 SP6a, Ex 5.5 SP4).
>
>   Regards
>   Darren
>
>
>
> Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd
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>
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>
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Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831411

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RE: Strange ...

[Drewski]

No, it's not, and people who do it are told by many others that it's bad, and
how it can be stopped.

There are some times to allow OOO to the internet.  When you're directly
subscribed to a list like this one, it's not the time.

-- Drew

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:59 AM
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Subject: Strange ...



All

It seems strange to me that with the amount of knowledge about
exchange that is avaliable from people in this list, that so many of them
have Out-Of-Office assistants replying to the internet !  Surely this is not
good practice ???




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London Road  Henley Road
Teynham  Paddock Wood
Kent Kent
ME9 9PR  TN12 6DN

Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400
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RE: Exchange X400 connector

[Drewski]

How do you define "site"?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Wright
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:40 PM
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Subject: Exchange X400 connector


I apologise in advance if this question has been asked before. I am trying
to change my X400 configuration and have noticed that a number of the
settings do not seem to work. As an example:On the Restrictions tab of an
X400 connector's address space the restriction "This site only" is meant
to send only messages through the connector that originate in the local
site however I have noticed that messages from other sites are still
routed through this connector. Either this is a bug or my knowledge is
insufficient. Does anyone know of a source of comprehensive information
dealing with the X400 connector? I would really like an in-depth
explanation of each of the fields and how they interact.

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RE: fix monitor

[Drewski]

yikes.  Hey, you don't have green skin, big eyes, floopy fingers and sometime
stalk hobbits, do you?

-- Drew

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carine Lim,
Sr.SystEng, SCSM/NSB
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


yesss yess... yesss..  show me his pic... hehehe

Carine

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


Anyone ever wondered what Ed Crowley looks like?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions


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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Drewski]

Not that often.  Currently on about Day 2.5 years, no swift end in sight.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


I hear that ya'll take the day off in Chicago when Drew starts counting from
day zero. So 'bout every 2 years?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


At 12:40 PM 1/9/2002 -0600, WILLIAMS,JESSICA D wrote:
>Neaux.
>
>Also, the rest of the country doesn't take off work for Mardi Gras!

No, but here in Chicago we take off work for baseball games and good
weather.

Most of the natives I know spend Mardi Gras hiding from the tourists.


-
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-- Real Genius





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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Drewski]

If that's 18 year old nubile she-cajun, that's a good slew!

-- Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:10 PM
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Whenever I go there folks look at my name and I get a slew of cajun thrown
in my face.

- Original Message -
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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


> At 10:39 AM 1/9/2002 -0600, WILLIAMS,JESSICA D wrote:
> >Having just moved to Louisiana three years ago I quickly discovered that
> >nothing here is pronounced as it is spelled.  They also like to think the
> >word go is spell geaux.
> >
> >Geaux figure.
>
> I'm Louisianan by marriage (Midwesterner by birth)... Guidrys and Landrys
> are about as common down there as cypress trees. You can tell people who
> really live there because they can correctly pronounce things like
> Natchitoches. It's taken years but I'm finally to the point where I don't
> sound like a tourist when I visit. Fortunately I took years of French in
> school or phrases like "mais yeah" would throw me. Also, verb conjugation
> is weird... "y'all" is singular, "all y'all" is plural, and they have a
> host of special words and phrases all their own (like "lagniappe").
>
>
> -
> K. Triona Guidry
> Guidry Consulting, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> A girl's gotta have her standards.
> -- Real Genius
>
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>
>
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Drewski]

You wanne spell "it" "g e a u x"?

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You mean it isn't?

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


> Having just moved to Louisiana three years ago I quickly discovered that
> nothing here is pronounced as it is spelled.  They also like to think the
> word go is spell geaux.
>
> Geaux figure.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
> Only if the owner's name is Suessereaux...
>
> NB: for the uninformed - Louisianna is home to a particular group of folks
> called Cajuns. The vast majority of them have names ending in -eaux.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:54 PM
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
>
>
> > WOW, this list is not only informative but funny! Keep up the good work!
> > BTW does the Hog Bog Dog jump on a Log?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> >
> >
> > Well then
> >
> > LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!   ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PROFITLAB
> > Network Engineer
> > PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> >
> >
> > In that case, there will almost never be enough...  There'd be a lot of
> > engineers going "postal" if they weren't allowed to crack a few jokes
and
> > smile once in a while.  :o)
> >
> > D
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:09 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> >
> >
> > Its not the thickness of my Skin I'm worried about
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PROFITLAB
> > Network Engineer
> > PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> >
> >
> > That would depend on the thickness of your skin...  :o)
> >
> > D
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:08 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> >
> >
> > Question:
> > I'm probably one of the newest people on this list, and I think its
great
> > that you guys are throwing in a little fun to the thing, but how do I
know
> > when  enough is enough?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PROFITLAB
> > Network Engineer
> > PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:07 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> >
> >
> > Cool.  A hog bog dog.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Walt Brannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> >
> >
> > We have bog dogs here in Louisiana. They run after hogs in the swamp.
> Their
> > classy name is Catahoula Cur, they are the official Louisiana dog. Their
> > origin goes back to DeSoto's war dogs cross bread with the red wolf.
> > Whoo ...  some kind of fierce dog.
> >
> > Walt Brannon
> > University of New Orleans
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:01 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> >
> > Yea, WTF is a Bog Dog?  :)
> >
> > ___
> > John Bowles
> > Exchange Administrator
> > Enterprise Support & Engineering
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> >
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RE: test

[Drewski]

Singing polly waddle doodle onna day!

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Perzactly. Then he ran back to Lousyanna.

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> What? The bog dog?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Computer Support Analyst
> Network Administrator
> BT Ignite eSolutions
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 08 January 2002 17:24
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: test
> 
> 
> Oh no! A test! And I didn't study!!
> 
> The dog ate my textbook!
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> 
> 
> > just testing please ignore
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RE: ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and acti on taken.

[Drewski]

You said the "s" word.

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acti on taken.


This is a new one for me. Anyone else get this one?

Denis

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Trend SMEX Content Filter has detected sensitive content.

Place = Exchange Discussions; ; ; Exchange Discussions
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Drewski]

Everything in excess. Moderation is for monks.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Morgan, Joshua
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Its not the thickness of my Skin I'm worried about





PROFITLAB
Network Engineer
PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
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-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


That would depend on the thickness of your skin...  :o)

D

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Question:
I'm probably one of the newest people on this list, and I think its great
that you guys are throwing in a little fun to the thing, but how do I know
when  enough is enough?





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-Original Message-
From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Cool.  A hog bog dog.


-Original Message-
From: Walt Brannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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We have bog dogs here in Louisiana. They run after hogs in the swamp. Their
classy name is Catahoula Cur, they are the official Louisiana dog. Their
origin goes back to DeSoto's war dogs cross bread with the red wolf.
Whoo ...  some kind of fierce dog.

Walt Brannon
University of New Orleans

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:01 AM
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Yea, WTF is a Bog Dog?  :)

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RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions

[Drewski]

He's an Andy.

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And I'll bet that it is not because you are a Scot.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:06 AM
To: Powell, Ken
Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions


I'm not wearing pants.


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions


You are absolutely right.  From now on, no more jokes.  For the rest of my
career, I promise to become a serious and prudish Exchange citizen.  I also
vow not to go postal from the lack of humor while working in the wee hours
of the morning. Thank you for setting me straight.  Let's hope others
follow.  Together we can make this list the most solemn Exchange List in the
world.

Continued success.

Jennifer Baker

-Original Message-
From: Mike Lagase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions


Man, try to help people out and you get slammed. I thought this was supposed
to be an Exchange question and answer group and not a group that has to
knock
down or create a joke about everything that is being thrown out here. These
are real world scenarios and you obviously have way too much time on your
hands to reply to this.

Mike

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From: "Jennifer Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:35 AM
Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions


> What does this have to do with the Honeymooners?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Lagase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
>
>
> What you need to do is add the Total Ops column to your Exchange admin
> program. This will show you what mailbox is doing the most amount of
> operations on your exchange server. It is most likely a rule that is
> forwarding to the internet so you will need to login to that mailbox and
> see what is going on.
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:04 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
>
>
> Bang!  Zoom!
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
>
>
> One of these days, Alice.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:15 PM
> To: Baker, Jennifer
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
>
>
> Is that an auotresponse?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
>
>
> 
> I was being sarcastic.
> 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
>
>
> I know but it is a potential cause of this problem
>
>
>
>
>
> PROFITLAB
> Network Engineer
> PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
>
>
> Nobody on this list does that.  If they do, I hope they don't admit it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: PRIV IS rapidly growing out of proportions
>
>
> Also Mailbox Level Backups
>
>
>
>
>
> PROFITLAB
> Network Engineer
> PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jenn

RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Drewski]

But you can't pick your friend's nose!

-- Drew

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The world acquires value only through its extremes and endures only through 
moderation; extremists make the world great, the moderates give it stability. --Paul 
Valery

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Opinions: everyone has one...

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:18 AM
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>
>
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
> (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in
> my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did
> you run home with your ball when the other kids noticed you had
> highwaters?
> ---
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Blocking spam

[Drewski]

"The domain should be www.mycompany.xxx (with the XXX to be decided later, by
you!)"

-- Drew

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Hate can only flourish where love is absent. --William C. Menninger

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Something like:

Congratulations!!! You've been selected by our steering committee to handle
our AD design and implementation. Our selection was not based just on the
$$$'s you will save us, but due to your experience and understanding. We
look forward to working with you.

(Still can't figure out how to work XXX in there)

> -Original Message-
> From: Dillon, Jeff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Blocking spam
>
> Our 98%-effective content filter is simple enough!!!
>
> 1) First line of msg ends in !, !!, or especially !!!
> 2) "Just $"
> 3) "You've been selected"
> 4) "XXX" gets the rest
>
> This lets through the subscribed JOD about the two soaking-wet coeds who
> rescued a 9-inch rooster from a pond--thereby keeping everyone happy.
>
> << If this message reached you in error because YOUR content filter
> differs
> from the above, reply to www.spamusforever.ru  Include your MasterCard
> number and mother's maiden name for verification >>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
>
>
> Not a solution in my environment, unfortunately. :)  They're still going
> to
> be getting a ton of spam (from their previous indiscretions) and they'll
> still insist upon me fixing (or at least reducing) that somehow.  In our
> case the answer is content filtering and the attendant problems that go
> with
> it.
>
> Luckily we've tuned (and continue to tune) our filters fairly well and
> catch
> very little legitimate mail in it.  I'd guess we spend maybe 15 minutes a
> day skimming through the quarantine and releasing stuff that's legit
> (deleting the rest of it).
>
> We also don't catch all spam, of course, but we catch a lot of it.  And we
> do block more or less all of the dangerous attachment extensions.
>
> Aloha,
>
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> >
> >
> > No, you say "that sucks, you shouldn't have done that", then
> > shake your head slowly and walk away. :)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:19 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> >
> >
> > Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?
> > Make them get all new e-mail addresses?
> >
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> > Director of Information Services
> > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> > > When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to
> > do the same
> > > thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and now the
> > only thing
> > > it does is extension blocking. I explained to management
> > and my users
> > > why this was happening to them and how they had done it to
> > themselves
> > > and how they should fooble their email addys if they don't
> > want to get
> > > on a list and everything is happy now.
> > >
> > > Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > >
> > >
> > > You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have
> > > archived it for the day when my boss demands content
> > filtering on our
> > > exchange server, heh.
> > >
> > > > You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would
> > > > have seen that this very issue was discussed in at least
> > > two threads.
> > > >
> > > > There's nothing you can do until you show your users how
> > > they actually
> > > > get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid
> > > > behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and
> > only then
> > > > your spam input will decrease.
> > > >
> > > > Sure, you can install something like eManager

RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?

[Drewski]

I dunno, but you certainly won't hear Elves bowling...

-- Drew

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Couch, Nate
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?


Do I hear an AMEN!


> --
> From: Martin Blackstone
> Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2002 13:29
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
>
> Better yet, block all .EXE files.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
>
>
> What about the "shake.exe" file indicated in the message?
>
> Aloha,
>
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:19 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
> >
> >
> > I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert.
> >  Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I
> > would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this
> > one to see if there is an attachment I can block.
> >
> >
> > From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld
> >
> >
> > Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02:
> >
> > Virus Alert:
> >
> > There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its
> > way around the Internet.  We are have not found information
> > on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have
> > learned thus far from our internal security folks which you
> > will want to watch out for on your networks:
> >
> > o Random 8 char. file in the System directory
> > o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer)
> > o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers
> > o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are
> > seeing variants in the name of the key sysinfo
> >
> > People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh
> > email.  This virus can install a key in the registry of the
> > infected systems.
> >
> > This is the information we have received at this time.
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> >  Jodi
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete Pfefferkorn
> > Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
> > University of Cincinnati
> > 51 Goodman Street
> > Cincinnati, OH  45221
> > Phone - (513) 556-9076
> > Fax - (513) 556-2042
> >
> >
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RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?

[Drewski]

D@am that Dick Cheney!

-- Drew

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?


Amen. The other consideration you should look at is will you filter e-mails
that are really business related, but for whatever reason appear to be spam.
This blocks legitimate mail and could possibly lose you business. Example:

Dear Sirs,

My name is Dick Cheney and I am the President of a 18 year old company based
in Sussex. Our company is a manufacturer of clothing and toys for young
women and girls. We have two manufacturing facilities, one located in Essex
and the other next to our offices Sussex. We also have 20 remote sales
locations located around the world including Japan, Korea, Russia and the
Philippines. Our Asian market is particularly important to us as they
produce millions of dollars in revenue yearly!! We are looking to contact
you about the possibilities of saving money on our manufacturing costs and
enlarging our facilities. This would be a large investment on our part with
the provider we choose and are looking to partner with someone for the long
term. Could you please have one of your salespersons call us as soon as
possible on this? I can be reached at 555-1212 anytime during the day.

Thank you,
Dick

(I'll let you know how many filters I set off.)

> -Original Message-
> From: Soysal, Serdar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:45 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
>
>
> I have evaluated Trend's E-Manager at one point in time.  It works ok, but
> not as comprehensive or flexible as MailSweeper.  Take a look at Praetor
> as
> well.
>
> Content filtering is a losing battle in my opinion.  You will be chasing
> an
> ever so mobile optimum point where you block the most amount of spam while
> blocking the least amount of non-spam mail.
>
> The whole thing boils down to user education.  The ONLY way you can reduce
> spam is to tell your users NOT to use their email accounts anywhere
> outside
> the organization.  This means no comments to stories on CNN.com, no
> forwarding of chainmails, not using their corporate email id to bid on
> auctions on eBay etc. etc.  Content filtering will buy you only so much.
> Without user education it'll just make spam a bigger headache for you.
> Your
> users will become triple frustrated when they receive spam when they know
> you have a content filtering package in place, and let me reassure you
> that
> no content filter is 100% accurate.  Your users WILL receive uce even if
> you
> have the most aggressive filter in place.
>
> S.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> We are looking at getting Trend's E-Manager content filter as an add on to
> our Scanmail a/v product to start screening out spam. If you have or are
> using E-Manager for Scanmail could you let me know if you would recommend
> for or against it and if there are any caveats I need to be aware of? I
> have
> searched my archives of this list for E-Manager and not found much other
> than some people who use it and one person who noted an issue but never
> mentioned what it turned out to be due to. I also searched just on content
> filtering and spam filtering among others but still didn't see all the
> info
> I am after.
>
> We are running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and ScanMail 3.5 on WinNT4 in a single
> domain. Although this quarter I plan to get the domain up to Win2k so if
> there are issues with Win2k I'd like to know that too. The price for
> E-Manager is in our range whereas Mailsweeper etc appear not to be and I
> am
> very happy with our Scanmail product but want to get a feel for any issues
> with E-Manager.
>
> I also am curious as to the time it takes to baby sit this. If those of
> you
> using content scanning software (particularly E-Manager but it's probably
> similar for all of them) could estimate how much time is required to sort
> out the non-spam mail that gets caught in the filters and see that it is
> forwarded on to the user it was intended for that would be a big help. I'm
> guessing that it takes a bit of tuning of the filters to minimize that but
> I've no idea if I'm talking about adding a 5 minutes a week task to my job
> or a 5 hours a week (or more) task.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> Ronni
>
> *
> "The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are
> permitted to remain children all our lives." -Albert Einstein
> 

RE: Weird Error

[Drewski]

Well, that means the same thing as

" The recipient name is not recognized" to me, anyway...

-- Drew

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Callan, Chris
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


Ok, so basically I can just ignore the beginning part, because that is the
original Message ID, and just pay attention to the
3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown
-Original Message-----
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


Because of the zillions of MSN addresses, they automated it.  Also, getting
an
automated NDR is RFC compliant.

-- Drew

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you. --Madeline S. Bridges

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Callan, Chris
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin
send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown.
MSN thought you'd like to know.

-Original Message-
From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Weird Error


My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account.  but this is the error message
he received back.  Why would this becoming from my System Administrator?

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:
  Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine
Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960
MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1
3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown

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RE: Weird Error

[Drewski]

Because of the zillions of MSN addresses, they automated it.  Also, getting an
automated NDR is RFC compliant.

-- Drew

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Callan, Chris
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin
send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown.
MSN thought you'd like to know.

-Original Message-
From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Weird Error


My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account.  but this is the error message
he received back.  Why would this becoming from my System Administrator?

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:
  Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine
Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960
MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1
3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown

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RE: Weird Error

[Drewski]

It doesn't like the email address.

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there is a word for such behavior: terrorism." Tom Ridge

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Callan, Chris
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Weird Error


My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account.  but this is the error message
he received back.  Why would this becoming from my System Administrator?

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:
  Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine
Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960
MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1
3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown

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RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda

[Drewski]

I believe I'm drifting in your direction as well, Ben...  jeez...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Winzenz
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda


We just need to all stop answering his troll questions, and he will go away.
I'm about 99% convinced that Richard is another Hanji.  Feed a troll, he
will keep asking questions.  Ignore a troll, he will go away.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda

um... is it really not obvious?

1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line)

2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big)

-- Drew

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or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope,
and
crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring,
those
ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of
oppression
and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda


Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of
them today.

1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.

553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100
The message that caused this notification was:


2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.

12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512

The message that caused this notification was:




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RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda

[Drewski]

For pete's sake read the damn error message, will you?

1) I can't tell, because you didn't send the entire NDR, but the max amount (as
STATED in the error message) is:

<<553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100>>

Gee, think that's less than 100?

2) The limit in size that someone can send out (as STATED in the error message)
is:

<<12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512>>

512 BYTES.  You do the math.

-- Drew

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda







um... is it really not obvious?

1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line)
 Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers
server
2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big)
 and what is the limit in size that someone can send out.
-- Drew

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others,
or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope,
and
crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring,
those
ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of
oppression
and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda


Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of
them today.

1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.

553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100
The message that caused this notification was:


2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.

12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512

The message that caused this notification was:




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RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda

[Drewski]

um... is it really not obvious?

1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line)

2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big)

-- Drew

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or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and
crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those
ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression
and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda


Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of
them today.

1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.

553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100
The message that caused this notification was:


2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.

12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512

The message that caused this notification was:




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RE: Keep mail in server

[Drewski]

Yes, I know that, Mr. Spellchuk.  I'm suggesting to Ben that if James IS using
PSTs, you CAN "keep a copy" of the mailbox on the server.

-- Drew

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wasn't a Communist.  Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because
I wasn't a Jew.  Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a trade unionist.  Then they came for the Catholics, and I
didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.  Then they came for me, and by that
time there was no one left to speak for me."  Martin Niemoller

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Keep mail in server


If by 'useing (sic) Exchange in PST mode' you mean using POP3 to access
email, then there still might be a setting on the POP client allowing for a
copy of said email to remain on the server.

William


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Keep mail in server


Maybe he's useing Exchange in PST mode...

-- Drew



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Winzenz
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Keep mail in server


Can you rephrase what you are wanting to do?  You don't keep a "copy" of a
mailbox on the server.  It's either there, or it isn't.  However, you can
set up clients to use "offline" folders, which will download a "copy" of the
contents of their mailbox, or whatever you specify, to a local folder.  But
as others will probably say, we need more information.  Speak up, man!  Say
exactly what you are trying to accomplish. Specifics.  The more the merrier.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: James Liao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Keep mail in server

I have a question. How can I keep a copy of each user's mailbox,and not
allowed user to download mail but look it on the web(keep in server)?

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RE: Keep mail in server

[Drewski]

Maybe he's useing Exchange in PST mode...

-- Drew

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His enemies are not demons, but human beings like himself.  He doesn't wish them
personal harm.  Nor does he rejoice in victory.  How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men? (Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Winzenz
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Keep mail in server


Can you rephrase what you are wanting to do?  You don't keep a "copy" of a
mailbox on the server.  It's either there, or it isn't.  However, you can
set up clients to use "offline" folders, which will download a "copy" of the
contents of their mailbox, or whatever you specify, to a local folder.  But
as others will probably say, we need more information.  Speak up, man!  Say
exactly what you are trying to accomplish. Specifics.  The more the merrier.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: James Liao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Keep mail in server

I have a question. How can I keep a copy of each user's mailbox,and not
allowed user to download mail but look it on the web(keep in server)?

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RE: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001

[Drewski]

"Fix your Broke @ss Sh!t"



-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001


Dear DL Members,

What were the top ten posts, statements, or phrases of Year 2001?


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
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RE: Client Access

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Well, for OWA to work with the current patches, ya gotta have IE 5.5 sp2, eh?

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Client Access


Either way... Double check the Registry settings for the RPC ports and let
us know.  Upgrading Internet Explorer is always an interesting experience.
By the way...Why did you upgrade the browser on the Exchange Server.  Are
you accessing the internet from the Exchange Server for some reason.  You
should be downloading all of your updates, patches, etc... from another
system then applying them to the exchange server.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Client Access


I guess I'm confused.  After re-reading the original post I'm not sure what
was actually upgraded.  I see Exch 5.5 then IE 4.01. Did you upgrade
Internet Explorer Browser?

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Client Access


Since those static mappings are done in the registry, what upgrade could
have changed that?

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Client Access


The reason you can no longer do this is because you have not set your static
RPC ports for the exchange server.  This must have been done on the older
version and now that you have upgraded you will have to "re-do" it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Client Access


I recently upgraded our Exchange 5.5 standard server from IE 4.01 to 5.5 sp2
and got up to date on patches. I am not sure this is the cause, but now
internally clients connect fine (including the VPN), owa works fine.
However, when connecting over the internet, I get an error "Unable to open
your default email folders. The Microsoft Exchange Server computer is not
available. Either there are network problems or the Microsoft Exchange
Server is down for maintenance" I can ping it. The Firewall is now wide
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RE: Connectivity Issue

[Drewski]

gotta loop?

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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Connectivity Issue


I recently upgraded our Exchange 5.5 standard server from IE 4.01 to 5.5 sp2and
got up to date on patches.
I am not sure this is the cause, but now internally clients connect fine
(including the VPN), owa works fine. However, when connecting over the internet,
I get an error "Unable to open your default email folders. The Microsoft
Exchange Server computer is not
available. Either there are network problems or the Microsoft Exchange
Server is down for maintenance"
I can ping it.
The Firewall is now wide open, allowing any.
I'm at my wits end

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RE: Restoration Solutions?

[Drewski]

1) Use NT Backup -- it's exchange aware after you install exchange.
2) Create a recovery server that's identical to your production box, just not on
the network
3) Restore.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert V
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Restoration Solutions?


Alright, so what is the good backup solution for the Exchange databases?

We have not performed test restores to date.  We like to make sure
everything goes to hell if the server crashes - okay, well not really.  Do
you have any recommendations for restore procedures (testing purposes?).

Thanks,

Robert


> You backup your server using an AV solution???  That seems strange...  Not
> to mention, impossible.
>
> Now, if you're using ArcCrapIt, you're still in deep doodoo.  It's a widely
> known fact that while ArcCrapIt may back up your server, it is very unlikely
> that it will restore in the event of a disaster such as yours.
>
> Additionally, do you not perform test restores?  Might I ask why if your
> answer is no?
>
> D
>
> "If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has not
> achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be
> "meetings." -- Dave Barry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Restoration Solutions?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Running Exchange 5.5 SP3 on NT server.  We backup the server nightly using
> client agent from InnoculateIT.
>
> Unfortunately one of our users has misplaced or lost a large amount of mail
> and it is nowhere to be found.  We are curious what restoration options are
> available with Exchange as we have not done this previously.
>
> Short of setting up another Exchange server and restoring the databases, is
> there any way quickly to access the backed up mail?
>
> Otherwise, what suggestions does the group have for making this restoration
> easier in the future?
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Robert VadeBonCoeur
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Drewski]

There is no Secret Cabal handshake.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block!
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase)
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think).
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best.
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: Client Access

[Drewski]

Can you ping it by NAME or by IP Address?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Edward Premus
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Client Access


I recently upgraded our Exchange 5.5 standard server from IE 4.01 to 5.5 sp2 and
got up to date on patches. I am not sure this is the cause, but now
internally clients connect fine (including the VPN), owa works fine.
However, when connecting over the internet, I get an error "Unable to open your
default email folders. The Microsoft Exchange Server computer is not
available. Either there are network problems or the Microsoft Exchange
Server is down for maintenance"
I can ping it.
The Firewall is now wide open, allowing any.
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RE: anyone know

[Drewski]

Depends on your config.  Do you know your config?

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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: anyone know


I have 4 18.2 gig scsi drives and one of the lights on the 4th drive is not
lit up  and the server is a compaq prol ml370.  Does this mean the hard
drive failed.
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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

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what?  You mean without an Exchange Aware backup, right?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Seigler
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Actually, it's not recommended to backup any \exchsrvr folder while any
Exchange services are running.

-aseigler

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT
Server SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange
directories located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent
installed and I tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these
directories up allready right.  So if I go under selections can I
uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and still backup this IS.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: AV! a full time job?

[Drewski]

I agree.  The idea that you could have 15 computers on your network (in your
domain?) without knowing about it is a clear indication that management ISN'T
doing its job...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


So it really isn't a matter of too much work, but rather a matter of poor
management.
In any company, but in particular one your size, allowing departments to
manage computers is a recipe for disaster. It probably seemed like a good
idea at the time, but not any longer.
There should be a central point of contact for all machines. Orders are
placed through that group and delivered to them for configuration and
delivery to the end users or departments. That way all hardware is fully
tracked and managed.
You should be using logon scripts as one method of pushing out AV installs
and DAT updates. That way for someone to login, AV software has to be
installed.

I would suggest rather than spend 50-60K a year for an AV tech, that you put
that time / money into better management. Ill bet you if you went to upper
management and said "OK, we need a new hardware procedure, OR we need to
spend 60K a year for an AV guy, they would let you have your way"

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you (& other support staffs) when there's new virus via
pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship with
A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like Technical Account Manager,
TAM.  Once you have those communcation method established, you have to have
software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

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RE: AV! a full time job?

[Drewski]

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

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brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you (& other support staffs) when there's new virus
via pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer
relationship with A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like
Technical Account Manager, TAM.  Once you have those communcation method
established, you have to have software that can distribute updates
automatically and fast.

My two cents...

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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
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Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

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RE: AV! a full time job?

[Drewski]

What about the eyepatch and the pegleg?  Do THOSE mean you're a pirate?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Check the shoulder boards. That bird on my shoulder doesn't mean I'm a
pirate.

> -Original Message-
> From: Schwartz, Jim
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:27 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: AV!  a full time job?
>
> Motivated, Dedicated and True to the Anti-Virus Role. BooYaa Sir!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Andy David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:25 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject:RE: AV!  a full time job?
> >
> > m
> > someone dedicated
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> >
> >
> > That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what
> > types
> > of attachments that you need to allow into your company and how
> sensitive
> > your company is to downtime due to a virus outbreak. Many of the anti
> > virus
> > vendors now have Consoles that can manage your deployments across
> multiple
> > platforms and can provide those wonderful Dilbert reports. I wouldn't
> > think
> > your environment at 1300 users would require a full time position, but
> it
> > would require someone that dedicated some number of hours per day/week
> > towards antivirus.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:24 PM
> > > To:   Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject:  AV!  a full time job?
> > >
> > >
> > > Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you
> consider
> > > Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and
> network/desktop.
> > >
> > >
> > > Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
> > getting
> > > neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
> > >
> > > e-
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RE: AV! a full time job?

[Drewski]

Are you a circus clown then?  :P

-- Drew

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Check the shoulder boards. That bird on my shoulder doesn't mean I'm a
pirate.

> -Original Message-
> From: Schwartz, Jim
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:27 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: AV!  a full time job?
>
> Motivated, Dedicated and True to the Anti-Virus Role. BooYaa Sir!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Andy David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:25 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject:RE: AV!  a full time job?
> >
> > m
> > someone dedicated
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
> >
> >
> > That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what
> > types
> > of attachments that you need to allow into your company and how
> sensitive
> > your company is to downtime due to a virus outbreak. Many of the anti
> > virus
> > vendors now have Consoles that can manage your deployments across
> multiple
> > platforms and can provide those wonderful Dilbert reports. I wouldn't
> > think
> > your environment at 1300 users would require a full time position, but
> it
> > would require someone that dedicated some number of hours per day/week
> > towards antivirus.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:24 PM
> > > To:   Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject:  AV!  a full time job?
> > >
> > >
> > > Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you
> consider
> > > Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and
> network/desktop.
> > >
> > >
> > > Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
> > getting
> > > neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
> > >
> > > e-
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RE: Dangers/Virtues of IMAP vs OWA and HTTP

[Drewski]

I love the part where he explains how to run OWA on Apache.

-- Drew

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Dangers/Virtues of IMAP vs OWA and HTTP


OWA on IIS <> ewww.  Unless of course you are lazy.

>>I could go on.

Yes, please go on.

William


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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:26 PM
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Hmmm...neither are good.  IMAP w/SSL w/b much better.

OWA on IIS, ewww. Nimda, Code Red, RDS exploits, I could go on.  Even
SSL won't save you much.

My .02

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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject: Dangers/Virtues of IMAP vs OWA and HTTP


Any express opinions, on security or otherwise, on using Outlook Express
and IMAP (port 143)  vs Outlook Web Access and HTTP (port 80) to access
Exchange 2000 through the firewall?

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RE: AV! a full time job?

[Drewski]

I think it depends on the size of your organization, among other things.  AV
does tend to be something that, once set up, requires only CONSTANT VIGILANCE! and not a ton of maintenance.

-- Drew

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combine them."  Nathaniel Hawthorne

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

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RE: Legal Caption

[Drewski]

FAQ.  Read it.  Love it.  Live it.

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm!!

-- Drew

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:09 PM
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Subject: Legal Caption


What is the fastest (easiest) way to add a legal caption at the end of every
message leaving our site?
Can this be done for Internet bound messages only?

NT 4.0 SP6 Ex 5.5 SP4

Thanks..and Happy Holidays!

Mathew Chase

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RE: OOF to this list

[Drewski]

that's ok...

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Would you like me to forward to you the blast I got this morning?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST


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hey!  I only got six oof messages!  I feel gypped...

-- Drew

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I'm scared of Kevin holding me!

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Hold me Kevin. I'm scared.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:01 AM
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Pf = Public Folder
OOF = Out of Office message
FAQ = Frequently asked Questions.

Do you need me to hold your hand Mr. Blackstone?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST


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What is a PF? What is an OOF? What is a FAQ?

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Especially with the holidays upon us, I really enjoy all those OOF
messages from people too lazy to subscribe to the list in a manner that
shows they know how to work and play well with others.

For those offenders that don't seem to understand, here is a brief
explanation.
1. Set up a Public Folder and subscribe THAT address to the list
to receive eMail. See the FAQ if you need more info on accomplishing
this step.
2. Set up your own personal address and set it to NOT receive
any eMail from the list. This still allows you to post to the list.

My 2 favorite OOF's that I received today were from Dan Aalberg whose
OOF was completely blank, and from James Clayton whose message states
that not only is he out, but their entire IT organization is out.
Hello...Mc Fly...that's like saying "please come hack me 'cuz no one is
watching the store".

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RE: OOF to this list

[Drewski]

hey!  I only got six oof messages!  I feel gypped...

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I'm scared of Kevin holding me!

-- Drew

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Hold me Kevin. I'm scared.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOF to this list


Pf = Public Folder
OOF = Out of Office message
FAQ = Frequently asked Questions.

Do you need me to hold your hand Mr. Blackstone?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST


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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:56 AM
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What is a PF? What is an OOF? What is a FAQ?

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOF to this list


Especially with the holidays upon us, I really enjoy all those OOF messages
from people too lazy to subscribe to the list in a manner that shows they
know how to work and play well with others.

For those offenders that don't seem to understand, here is a brief
explanation.
1. Set up a Public Folder and subscribe THAT address to the list to
receive eMail. See the FAQ if you need more info on accomplishing this step.
2. Set up your own personal address and set it to NOT receive any
eMail from the list. This still allows you to post to the list.

My 2 favorite OOF's that I received today were from Dan Aalberg whose OOF
was completely blank, and from James Clayton whose message states that not
only is he out, but their entire IT organization is out. Hello...Mc
Fly...that's like saying "please come hack me 'cuz no one is watching the
store".

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RE: OOF to this list

[Drewski]

I'm scared of Kevin holding me!

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Hold me Kevin. I'm scared.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOF to this list


Pf = Public Folder
OOF = Out of Office message
FAQ = Frequently asked Questions.

Do you need me to hold your hand Mr. Blackstone?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST


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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOF to this list


What is a PF? What is an OOF? What is a FAQ?

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOF to this list


Especially with the holidays upon us, I really enjoy all those OOF messages
from people too lazy to subscribe to the list in a manner that shows they
know how to work and play well with others.

For those offenders that don't seem to understand, here is a brief
explanation.
1. Set up a Public Folder and subscribe THAT address to the list to
receive eMail. See the FAQ if you need more info on accomplishing this step.
2. Set up your own personal address and set it to NOT receive any
eMail from the list. This still allows you to post to the list.

My 2 favorite OOF's that I received today were from Dan Aalberg whose OOF
was completely blank, and from James Clayton whose message states that not
only is he out, but their entire IT organization is out. Hello...Mc
Fly...that's like saying "please come hack me 'cuz no one is watching the
store".

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RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard

[Drewski]

um... actually, I've been doing a lot of work with the BORK and the tools, and
many of them aren't supported fully.

-- Drew

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were washed ashore.  There are thousands upon thousands lying in the sun.  He
tosses them back one at a time and someone walks up to him and asks, "Why
bother?  You can't get them all.  It won't make any difference."  And the first
guy picks up another and tosses it back into the ocean and replies, "Made a
difference to that one."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of McGilligan, Sean
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard


Next thing you will be telling me its under warranty product
Most people on this list have been around exmerge and its various
revisons and even the pst exporters pre exmerge!.
As you know it was a BORK product and now has been placed on a
mainstream product and in this case I think this has been a techie
request and not a marketing ploy.
Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint so I leave it at that.

smcgilligan


-Original Message-
From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 21 2001 4:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard


The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported.

-aseigler

-Original Message-
From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard


Gentlemen,

This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only be one
method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And Exmerge does ship
with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though)

My pennies worth
Merry Xmas

smcgilligan

-Original Message-
From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard


I prefer the move server process.  As long as you're using the latest
store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in acceptable shape,
move server will get you where you're going much faster, plus you keep
single instance storage.  On top of that, move server is fully
supported, which is more than I can say for exmerge.

-aseigler

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard


Well since you kind of apologized.

We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at
the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process.

[1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module

-Original Message-
From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard


Ok, so I give.  M$ was meant to convey Microsoft.  Is this better - MS
Exchange Move Server Wizard?

I've been reading this column for the last year now.  I knew to expect
the
sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom.

Thanks and Merry Christmas to all.

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RE: Restore Help Needed!

[Drewski]

Why do you need Active directory for the restore?

Heck, just install NT and Exchange 5.5, restore the Public Store, export all the
public folders to PST (Exmerge) and move 'em over...

-- Drew

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hooks, Tim
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Restore Help Needed!


Wow did I mess up...

I cut all of our users over to a new Exchange 2000 server from 5.5 last week.
That went fine. I followed all the instructions for shutting down the 5.5 server
once and for all and did so today. I should have tested a bit more - once I
deleted the 5.5 server from the organization I realized that only some of the
5.5 public folders had replicated. Problem #1  is I need to get some of that
Public Folder data back. I welcome your suggestions on how to do so.

Here is the plan I am working on (and problem #2) - build a 2000 server off the
network,  as its own domain (to keep computer name, domain name the same, etc
for the restore), install Exchange 5.5 SP4, and then restore the 5.5 files from
tape to this server - does this make sense to all of you? Or do you have a
better idea?

Problem #2 is I can't get active directory to install as it is not connected to
the internet and reports a DNS error trying to resolve the FQDN. I have
installed DNS and made this server the SOA and NS and a host record, as well as
the default gateway and primary DNS server. Any ideas on how to get this
working? Am I just missing an SOA record that has only single period in it or
something like that? Thanks for your help - I really want to be home for
Christmas ;-)

Timothy Hooks


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RE: Urgent Help Needed smtp causing srv to slow right down

[Drewski]

Well, urgent issues really need to be taken up with PSS, but is it possible that
the NIC card on your server has gone bad and is brewin' up a broadcast storm?

I'd call PSS, and while you're on hold, switch out the NIC card.

-- Drew

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men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe it
only because you yourself know it to be true." -- Buddha

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of roger
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Urgent Help Needed smtp causing srv to slow right down


Hi, I have a small domain consisting of One Server as Follows:
Windows 2000 with SP2
Exchange 2000 with SP2
Domain Controller
Norton Anti virus for 2k
Norton Anti virus for Exchange 2k

Connected to 256k Lease line to internet and around 30 clients on the LAN.

The server has been fully working for the last 6 months with no problems
at all.

Today all of a sudden the server stopped sending and receiving mail, and
users complained they could not access the internet or their mail via the
exchange server, after deep diags i found that :

1, If i disconnect the Nic cable from the server all clients can
re-browse the web and the lan speed is ok.

2, I have also found that if i stop the SMTP service on the server
everything becomes ok again, but no mail.

Can anyone put any light on this, if so please call or mail me ASAP.

Thanks

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
07956 200 254 London.

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RE: LOTR Haiku

[Drewski]

hum...

Boromir - The eldest son of the Steward of Gondor, and a warrior of some renown.

Proud, strong and skilled in combat, Boromir travels to Rivendell in response to
a dream he shared with his brother Faramir, and is included in the company of
the Ring. Boromir was valiant in battle, as he proved in Moria.

However, Boromir had been tempted by the power of the Ring since he first
learned of its whereabouts, and the temptation finally proved too much for him
at Amon Hen, where he attempted to take the ring from Frodo by force.

He instantly repented, but his rant forced Frodo's immediate decision to leave
the Fellowship, and strike out for Mordor on his own. Boromir was killed shortly
thereafter, defending Pippin and Merry from a raiding orc-band.

-- Drew

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tear itself apart over differences of opinion and still believe that it is often
those very differences that help to make us stronger. Freedom is hard. (Wren
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: LOTR Haiku


Hey, I'm Aragorn!!

Aragorn is the uncrowned king of the north-western part of Middle-earth.

Although Aragorn was a direct descendant of the Kings of Numenor and the
rightful claimant to the Kingdom of Gondor, he first came to the knowledge
of the Hobbits in his guise as a Ranger, a collection of rather grim looking
men who travelled throughout Middle-earth, protecting its inhabitants from
evil.

This usually thankless task was probably the main reason that there had been
peace and prosperity in the Shire for so long. Aragorn was also the keeper
of Anduril, "the sword that was broken" and when it was eventually re-forged
it signalled his intent to re-take his throne and to rule over the new age
of men. However, while Sauron still held power in Mordor, Middle-earth would
eventually fall to the Dark Lord. Aragorn was a key figure in the
Fellowship, and without his courage, wisdom and strength, the quest would
never have succeeded.

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-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: LOTR Haiku


hmmm, I'm not sure I like this game.  Although I'm down with the
manipulation of the minds of men.  That fits.


Saruman is a wizard who became corrupted by the ring.

A Wizard, leader of the White Council, and the highest of the Istari. He is
very wise in ring lore, and has made study of the One Ring his life's work.

The Free Peoples (including the Elves) have long considered Saruman the
wisest of the wise, unaware of the darkness in his heart created by his lust
for the One Ring and its power. His ambition overcame him and he created his
armies to capture the fellowship and bring him the ring.

He is a master of manipulating the minds of men, which he bred with orcs
creating a horrible half-breed. Once a great and powerful wizard, the
secretive Saruman may have been corrupted by the Dark Lord, Sauron.


-Original Message-
From: Veitch, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: LOTR Haiku


Well find out what sort of LOTR character you are before seeing the film

http://www.lifesupportal.com/LOTR

Mike

> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 07 December 2001 15:10
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> Subject:  RE: LOTR Haiku
>
> I had a dream
> that I was watching
> the lord of the rings.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: LOTR Haiku
>
>
> Lord of The Rings near
> Only 12 more days to wait
> I'm wetting my pants
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RE: Attachment Nazi

[Drewski]

back hurt?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachment Nazi


I think someone should submit it for me. I don't want to blow my own horn
too much (more than usual)

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachment Nazi


FAQ 5.1.

tsk, tsk...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:33 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Attachment Nazi
Subject: RE: Attachment Nazi


I think the "Martin Blackstone Attachment Nazi List" needs to be added to
the FAQ.  Who here can make that happen?

-Michèle
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RE: Attachment Nazi

[Drewski]

Tyrant?

-- Drew

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachment Nazi


Hmmm.  Good question.  What's the latest PC term equivalent to "Nazi"?

-Michèle
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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachment Nazi


Martin can, by typing up said list and forwarding it to the proper
authorities. With that title, will people be able to read it in the GDR?

Chris
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Attachment Nazi
>
>
> I think the "Martin Blackstone Attachment Nazi List" needs to
> be added to the FAQ.  Who here can make that happen?
>
> -Michèle
> Immigration site:  
> The Miata:  
> Tiggercam:  
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> and reason into a Usenet discussion, men in sunglasses and
> black suits will be forced to land their silenced helicopter
> on your lawn and explain to you the error of your ways." -
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Attachment Nazi
>
>
> Nice list!! Where did you get that??
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 2:26 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Attachment Nazi
>
>
> I suggest as a start:
>
> Basics
> vbs;shs;js;com;bat;cmd;pif;scr;chm;VB;exe
>
> Full List VB;ASX;ADE;ADP;BAS;BAT;BIN;CHM;CMD;COM;CPL;CRT;DLL;EXE;HIV;
> HLP;HTA;INF;INS;ISP;JS;JSE;JTD;MSC;MSI;MSP;MST;OCX;OFT;OVL;PCD;
> PIF;PL;PLX;SCR;SCT;SH;SHB;SHS;SYS;VBE;VBS;VSS;VST;VXD;WSC;WSF;WSH;
>
> --
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> From: "Jennifer Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:28 PM
> Subject: Attachment Nazi
>
>
> > I will only be allowing these attachment types through our gateway
> starting
> > the end of January.
> >
> > No attachment for you!
> >
> > BMP;DOC;GIF;GZ;JPEG;JPG:HTM;HTML;MSG;PDF;PPT;RTF;TAR;TXT;XLS;Z;ZIP;
> >
> > Any comments from "The List"?  (Except for Mr. Seielstad...)
> >
> > Jennifer Baker
> > http://www.fluke.com
> > http://www.flukenetworks.com
> > "Keeping your world up and running."
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RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig

[Drewski]

hup, hup, there it is!

-- Drew

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cabinet at all hours, a paranoid android that likes to have conversations with
auto-responders, an ex-Paul in a badly stained Barney costume peaking a head
through a window, a cross-dressing sex fiend loading up his hard drive with
porn, an AWOL leader, a commie punk who thinks he's George Carlin, and the only
semi-sane one in the asylum is off ringing someone else's bells..." - Jim
Majorowicz

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing
hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for
members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps
someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile.

Until then... *plonk*


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RE: Don Rickles and this list

[Drewski]

You are quite welcome, Dr. Dogg.

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change a world that yields most painfully to change." - Robert Kennedy

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:21 PM
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Dr. Dogg is beyond Certifications. He does not need letters after his
name to be smarter. But thank you very much for the offer Mr. Nicholson.

--
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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:07 AM
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a MOUK, if you will...

-- Drew

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Dr. Dogg is a master of useless knowledge.

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Gee another trivia question answered.
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> Rickles?? His last name is Ely son.
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RE: Don Rickles and this list

[Drewski]

a MOUK, if you will...

-- Drew

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Dr. Dogg is a master of useless knowledge.

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Gee another trivia question answered.
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> Rickles?? His last name is Ely son.
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RE: Survey/Voting

[Drewski]

In this economy?  Heck no.

-- Drew

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Survey/Voting


Don't quit your day job!!!

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From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:44 PM
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Not valid in certain Western Democracies.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Survey/Voting


Typically voting works like this:
There can be a number of choices. At least 2. Then people choose which one
they like best. That is the "vote". Then the votes are counted, and the one
with the most votes wins.

-Original Message-
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:29 AM
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Subject: Survey/Voting


Is it possible to conduct an anonymous survey via Exchange/Outlook?
On a related note how does voting work?

Thanks

Alex Alborzfard
MCSE

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RE: Survey/Voting

[Drewski]

Not valid in certain Western Democracies.

-- Drew

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Survey/Voting


Typically voting works like this:
There can be a number of choices. At least 2. Then people choose which one
they like best. That is the "vote". Then the votes are counted, and the one
with the most votes wins.

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From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Survey/Voting


Is it possible to conduct an anonymous survey via Exchange/Outlook? 
On a related note how does voting work?

Thanks

Alex Alborzfard
MCSE

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RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig

[Drewski]

You didn't read my post about backing off and taking a deep breath, did you...

Ah, well... 

-- Drew

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leaks may not be what they appear to be.  You may discover that a memory leak is
really not a memory leak but a performance enhancement" - MS KB article 268343

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


I can see that this discussion list needs new members.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM
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Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get
rollin'.
;)


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RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig

[Drewski]

One of many... :)

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changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubteth not; he knoweth all
things but his own ignorance. -- Akhenaton

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hunter, Lori
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Watch out there Drew or I will bestow the title upon you.  :p

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


What, again?

-- Drew

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:21 AM
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Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


If the dickhead position is still open, I'd be glad to take it, otherwise,
please let me be the moron.



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RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig

[Drewski]

Son... take a step back, ok?  It's a big list, and you'll probably do better if
you keep yourself in a position to get your questions answers.

End of year, people are stressed... just take a deep breath.  No, I mean, let it
out, not hold it till you turn blue...

-- Drew

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this.  It looks as if you have
been called everything already.  I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings?

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Mike, friendly advice.  Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few
weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a
troll, a goddess, etc.  Some of the people you may define as smartass, the
rest of us might define as guru with an edge.  I'll take the edge as long as
I get the guru knowledge along with it.



-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Not long.  I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give
some.  I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers.

Michael Woodruff
System Administrator
inChord Communications Inc.
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility
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RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig

[Drewski]

What, again?

-- Drew

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Honesty is not only the best policy, it is rare enough today to make you
pleasantly conspicuous. --Anonymous

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


If the dickhead position is still open, I'd be glad to take it, otherwise,
please let me be the moron.



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Mike, friendly advice.  Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few
weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a
troll, a goddess, etc.  Some of the people you may define as smartass, the
rest of us might define as guru with an edge.  I'll take the edge as long as
I get the guru knowledge along with it.



-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Not long.  I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give
some.  I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers.

Michael Woodruff
System Administrator
inChord Communications Inc.
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility
614.543.6405
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list?

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig

This guy sure is a smart ass.



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;)

Chris
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> You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen.
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> Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I
> don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas'
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
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> > Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS.  Sophos is by
> > far the greatest Anti Virus Software.
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> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig

[Drewski]

by whom, exactly?

-- Drew

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when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil."  William
Gibson

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


For some odd reason SOPHOS was just voted number 1 AV product?  Why is that?

Michael Woodruff
System Administrator
inChord Communications Inc.
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility
614.543.6405
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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea.

> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
>
>
> The solution would be not to use any AV products on a
> production exchange server.  Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV.
>
> Michael Woodruff
> System Administrator
> inChord Communications Inc.
> A group of communications companies providing clients
> unlimited visibility
> 614.543.6405
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
>
>
> Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV
> product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be
> for poor Thomas' Exchange server.
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage!
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS.  Sophos is by
> > far the greatest Anti Virus Software.
> >
> > Michael Woodruff
> > System Administrator
> > inChord Communications Inc.
> > A group of communications companies providing clients
> > unlimited visibility
> > 614.543.6405
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the
> > background scanning option is enabled.  The only drawback is that
> > every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the
> whole IS in
> > the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store).  In version 2.14
> > the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new
> > definitions are installed.  How did you get version 2.17?  We paid
> > extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the
> > corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > If you check the archives, I had and still have the same
> problem here
> > with NAV and users not being able to move attachments.  I
> had MS look
> > at it and Symantec and both blamed each other.  I ran optimiser and
> > that didn't cure it.
> > The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is
> > checking the IS for corruption.  What I have found is that
> > when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall)
> > it starts of working fine and then gradually performance
> > becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined
> > (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail
> > sitting in the outbox for a while.  I am running NAV 2.17
> > Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI.  Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a.
> >
> > Stephanie.
> > University of Glamorgan.
> > UK
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > Exactly.  Well almost, I'm at the background part.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> > So your problem is the same one I ran into:
> >
> > -Had old 

RE: Haiku Friday

[Drewski]

That's not a limerick!  A limerick goes something like...

There once was an Admin name William
Who hated CA-IT so much he could kill 'em...
He posted his rants
(and he invented pants)
So they sent him an upgrade and billed him.

-- Drew

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or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and
crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those
ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression
and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


I prefer the limerick myself...


Tonight I connected my DSL with a fond goodbye to AO Hell
The odor I'm smellin' is the cables a burnin'
as I turn my self into a beat up shell.


As I download with glee and plenty of speed
my phone bill with Verizon heads for the Horizon
and I head off to a second job that gives me the money I need.

Best I could do off the top of my headapologies to any purists)


Tim Tullis
Director, MIS
Greater Lexington Chamber of Commerce
www.lexchamber.com
859-226-1625


-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


Dear DL Members,


D S L at home
I connected it last night
Thank you Verizon

Anxious to leave work
So that I can get high speed
Five P M come soon

Bye Bye Fifty Six
Welcome V P N et al
Christmas came early


I will tell you this, it is not easy to keep the 5 7 5 thing.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
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From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 09:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday


Exchange keeps humming
Everything is damn groovy
Livejournal awaits

Denis

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RE: sdkjk

[Drewski]

We read you, Ball Boy.  The mission is go, repeat, the mission is go.

sdoliuwe

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help.

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:09 PM
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Subject: sdkjk


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RE: Exchange 5.5 sp4 Locks up

[Drewski]

Uninstall any CA products at all.  What does it give you that you can't get by
loading the Exchange Admin app on your workstation?

-- Drew

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 sp4 Locks up


I recently moved my mailsite to an NT4 sp6a Server with plenty of system
resources for a company of 65 users.  I loaded Norton AV for Exchange 2.1
and Computer Associate's "Control IT 5.0" for remote admin purposes.

The machine runs fine for a few hours and then gradually winds down to a
slow death.  Control IT, which runs as a service, is the first to go then
the WWW service stops (no more OWA).  When I log on locally, everything is
slow and unresponsive.  I have stripped Norton down to the bare essentials
and the box still dies!

There are no clues in event veiwer.  If I log off of the console I get a
request to "end task" for explorer.exe twice before it will log off.

Can anyone help?  I'm dying out here.

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RE: Home Server of a Replicated Public Folder

[Drewski]

You do know about PFAdmin from the BORK, right?

-- Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Home Server of a Replicated Public Folder


I'm trying to find the home server of a replicated public folder.
I've read and found that I'm searching for the PR_REPLICA_SERVER
property of the folder, which should tell me the home server.  My
problem is in trying to get this property.

The Situation: I have two servers with a folder replicated from
SERVER2 to SERVER1.  The folder is appropriately called "Folder on
SERVER2".  The URL's for the folder and its parent are as follows:

FolderURL =
"http://SERVER1/ExAdmin/my.domain.com/Public%20Folders/Folder%203%20on%20SERVER2
"

ParentFolderURL = "http://SERVER1/ExAdmin/my.domain.com/Public%20Folders";

Here's my function:

' Begin Code ---

Const HOME_SERVER_PROPERTY_URL =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/mapi/id/{3f0a69e0-7f56-11d2-b536-00aa00bbb6e6}/PR_
REPLICA_SERVER"


Function HomeServer(FolderURL As String, ParentFolderURL As String) As
String
Dim Conn As New ADODB.Connection
Dim Rec As New ADODB.Record
Dim Flds As ADODB.Fields

Conn.Provider = "ExOLEDb.DataSource"
Conn.Open ParentFolderURL

Rec.Open FolderURL, Conn, adModeRead

Set Flds = Rec.Fields

HomeServer = Flds(HOME_SERVER_PROPERTY_URL).Value

Rec.Close
Conn.Close

Set Fls = Nothing
Set Rec = Nothing
Set Conn = Nothing
End Function

' End Code -


Does that make sense?  Am I on the right track?  Thanks in advance for
your help!

Joel Cade, MCSD

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RE: Exchange Backup

[Drewski]

I'm not sure I understand why you're using a date variable.  What happens if you
remove that part?

Did the script used to run and has suddenly stopped, or is it not running at
all?

-- Drew

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kindness from the unkind; yet, strange, I am ungrateful to these
teachers. --Khalil Gibran

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Hyche
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


BTW all 3 scheduled event are subject to the error. The Weekly I recreated
yesterday so it hasn't had a chance to run yet.


Audio International
Chris Hyche
MIS Technician
Phone: (501) 801-0457
Fax: (501) 801-0421
www.audiointl.com


-Original Message-
From: Chris Hyche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


This is it. It is a modified script for the Disaster Recovery White Paper.
Names have been changed to protect the innocent.

-

C:\Progra~1\Networ~1\Netshi~1\SHStat.Exe -Disable
rem ** 8/15/98  Backup Written by 
Rem Set Date Varible
for /F "tokens=2" %%t in ('Date /T') do set Date=%%t
rem ** This will backup the IS and DS on Audio.

C:\WinNT40\System32\ntbackup backup DS \\Server IS \\Server c: e: /d "Server
IS-DS C-D Drives %Date%" /b /hc:on /t Normal /l E:\Backup\backup.log /e

C:\Progra~1\Networ~1\Netshi~1\SHStat.Exe -Enable
exit



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Fax: (501) 801-0421
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-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


ok, what's the contents of the batch file?

-- Drew

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"Only problem with sucking up to an underworld deity is figuring out where
the
ass is." -- Daniel Chenault

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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


Status ID   Day Time  Command Line

---
Error  17   Each M T W Th   8:00 PM   "D:\Backup\Daily.Bat 1>
Daily.Log 2>&1"
   18   Each S  8:00 PM   "D:\Backup\Weekly.Bat 1>
Weekly.Log 2>&1"
Error  19   Each M T W Th F 8:00 AM
"D:\Backup\StartResolve.Bat 1>
StartResolve.Log 2>&1"

There are no errors in the Event log just this. The "1> Daily.Log 2>&1"
lines I added yesterday to try to log the batch files.

Audio International
Chris Hyche
MIS Technician
Phone: (501) 801-0457
Fax: (501) 801-0421
www.audiointl.com


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


we need to see the error, first.

-- Drew

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others,
or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope,
and
crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring,
those
ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of
oppression
and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Hyche
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Backup


I am now using NT Backup and the AT command to backup my Exchange server. I
have been getting "Error" status messages on the AT command about every
other time and the only way to get the backup to follow the schedule it
delete the entry and recreate it. From what I can tell the batch fill is
never run when the error occurs. Any idea what could be causing this?

WinNT4S SP6a
Exchange 5.5 SP3

Thanks for any help.

Chris Hyche

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RE: Exchange Backup

[Drewski]

ok, what's the contents of the batch file?

-- Drew

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Hyche
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


Status ID   Day Time  Command Line

---
Error  17   Each M T W Th   8:00 PM   "D:\Backup\Daily.Bat 1>
Daily.Log 2>&1"
   18   Each S  8:00 PM   "D:\Backup\Weekly.Bat 1>
Weekly.Log 2>&1"
Error  19   Each M T W Th F 8:00 AM
"D:\Backup\StartResolve.Bat 1>
StartResolve.Log 2>&1"

There are no errors in the Event log just this. The "1> Daily.Log 2>&1"
lines I added yesterday to try to log the batch files.

Audio International
Chris Hyche
MIS Technician
Phone: (501) 801-0457
Fax: (501) 801-0421
www.audiointl.com


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


we need to see the error, first.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of
others,
or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope,
and
crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring,
those
ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of
oppression
and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Hyche
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Backup


I am now using NT Backup and the AT command to backup my Exchange server. I
have been getting "Error" status messages on the AT command about every
other time and the only way to get the backup to follow the schedule it
delete the entry and recreate it. From what I can tell the batch fill is
never run when the error occurs. Any idea what could be causing this?

WinNT4S SP6a
Exchange 5.5 SP3

Thanks for any help.

Chris Hyche

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RE: Exchange Backup

[Drewski]

we need to see the error, first.

-- Drew

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or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and
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and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Hyche
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Backup


I am now using NT Backup and the AT command to backup my Exchange server. I
have been getting "Error" status messages on the AT command about every
other time and the only way to get the backup to follow the schedule it
delete the entry and recreate it. From what I can tell the batch fill is
never run when the error occurs. Any idea what could be causing this?

WinNT4S SP6a
Exchange 5.5 SP3

Thanks for any help.

Chris Hyche

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RE: Queueing incoming mail

[Drewski]

The first thing I'd suggest is talking to your ISP to see if they do mail
caching.  This is a good thing to have on all the time anyway, incase you lose
your internet connection, or the exchange server crashes unexpectedly for some
reason...


-- Drew

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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:12 PM
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Subject: Queueing incoming mail


Kind ladies and gentlemen of the list, looking for a little advice today...

A couple weeks from now, over the long Christmas weekend, we need to take
our Exchange server off-line for a few days to perform some maintenance...
In the time period it's down, nobody will be in the office so we don't need
to worry about disrupring the day-to-day operations of the users...

The only problem we can foresee is that incoming email can't be received
because the Exchange server will be off and people outside the company will
get NDR's because their mail can't be delivered to us (for possibly up to
three days)...  What can I use as a temporary queue to hold all the incoming
email and then will allow me to dump the queued SMTP messages to the
Exchange server once it's back up and running?  Something simple (and free)
is preferred, all I need is a queue to hold the messages while we perform
our maintenance and deliver the items when we're through...

TIA for any suggestions!

Joe Pochedley
"I like deadlines,"
cartoonist Scott Adams once said.
"I especially like the whooshing
sound they make as they fly by."

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RE: extensions to block

[Drewski]

http://www.outlookexchange.com/articles/drewnicholson/attachments.asp

-- Drew

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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:09 PM
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Subject: extensions to block


What list of extensions do you recommend to block infected attachments?

This one? .js, .vbs, .exe, .txt, .zip, .scr, .pif, .lnk, .avi, .mpeg, .jpeg,
.gif, .mov

TIA,
Orin Rehorst
Port of Houston

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RE: disaster debriefing

[Drewski]

de-thonged, you mean?

We pray that too, believe me.

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Pure religion and undefiled [...] is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of AD
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: disaster debriefing


I just pray that I am never de-briefed before a disaster...


Andy



> I want to know how much White Space was there before the defrag.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
>
>
> You're assuming that the Eseutil didn't chew up some of the database.
>
> -- Drew
> 
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> Only the dead have seen the last of war. - Plato
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Yanek Korff
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
>
>
> Alas, I don't know.  Seeing as 3.5 G were cleared, can I assume there
> were 3.5 gigs of whitespace?  Adding a drive isn't so easy as the
> system's already full up on drives.
>
> -Yanek.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:16 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> >
> >
> > How much white space was there before the defrag?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yanek Korff
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> >
> >
> > He did wait an hour...  And he's confident the copy was
> > complete - same
> > byte count on both the network drive and the local drive.
> >
> > -Yanek.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:42 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > >
> > >
> > > Sounds like he got impatient and didn't wait for the database to
> > > finish being copied back to exchsrvr\mdbdata from the network share
> > > - which needs
> > > to complete before you get your dos prompt back.
> > >
> > > After he killed ESEutil, he could've also copied it back
> > manually and
> > > renamed back to priv.edb instead of tape restore.  Then, the defrag
> > > effort would not have been in vain.
> > >
> > > Louise
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > >
> > > He followed the KB article, whatever it was.  Services were down.  I
>
> > > think he followed all the "right" procedures.  The temp file was on
> > > a network
> > > drive that had plenty of room.  The defragged temp database
> > > exists on the
> > > temp drive and is whole.  That's how he figures it freed 3.5 gigs.
> > >
> > > -Yanek.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The utility is dangerous in the wrong hands.  It can take a very,
> > > > very, very long time to run.  It also gets very snitty when you
> > > > don't have enough room
> > > > on the HD (or network share) to create the temp file that is
> > > > part of the
> > > > defrag processWhere did he attempt to create the temp
> > > > fileon the
> > > > same drive that is almost full?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And how is he enjoying his time at home these days?
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > Fr

RE: disaster debriefing

[Drewski]

Yanek, look for event 1221 or something like that.

-- Drew

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ourselves when our Nation's future is at stake. Let us stand together with
renewed confidence in our cause--united in our heritage of the past and our
hopes for the future--and determined that this land we love shall lead all
mankind into new frontiers of peace and abundance. -- JFK (To Be Delivered
11.22.63)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: disaster debriefing


I want to know how much White Space was there before the defrag.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: disaster debriefing


You're assuming that the Eseutil didn't chew up some of the database.

-- Drew

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Yanek Korff
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: disaster debriefing


Alas, I don't know.  Seeing as 3.5 G were cleared, can I assume there
were 3.5 gigs of whitespace?  Adding a drive isn't so easy as the
system's already full up on drives.

-Yanek.

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:16 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
>
>
> How much white space was there before the defrag?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yanek Korff
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
>
>
> He did wait an hour...  And he's confident the copy was
> complete - same
> byte count on both the network drive and the local drive.
>
> -Yanek.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:42 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> >
> >
> > Sounds like he got impatient and didn't wait for the database to
> > finish being copied back to exchsrvr\mdbdata from the network share
> > - which needs
> > to complete before you get your dos prompt back.
> >
> > After he killed ESEutil, he could've also copied it back
> manually and
> > renamed back to priv.edb instead of tape restore.  Then, the defrag
> > effort would not have been in vain.
> >
> > Louise
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:27 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> >
> > He followed the KB article, whatever it was.  Services were down.  I

> > think he followed all the "right" procedures.  The temp file was on
> > a network
> > drive that had plenty of room.  The defragged temp database
> > exists on the
> > temp drive and is whole.  That's how he figures it freed 3.5 gigs.
> >
> > -Yanek.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > >
> > >
> > > The utility is dangerous in the wrong hands.  It can take a very,
> > > very, very long time to run.  It also gets very snitty when you
> > > don't have enough room
> > > on the HD (or network share) to create the temp file that is
> > > part of the
> > > defrag processWhere did he attempt to create the temp
> > > fileon the
> > > same drive that is almost full?
> > >
> > >
> > > And how is he enjoying his time at home these days?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:16 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: disaster debriefing
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, so we had a disaster the other day.  Co-Worker of mine
> > ran eseutil
> > > against the private IS to free up som

RE: disaster debriefing

[Drewski]

You're assuming that the Eseutil didn't chew up some of the database.

-- Drew

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Yanek Korff
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: disaster debriefing


Alas, I don't know.  Seeing as 3.5 G were cleared, can I assume there were
3.5 gigs of whitespace?  Adding a drive isn't so easy as the system's
already full up on drives.

-Yanek.

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:16 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> 
> 
> How much white space was there before the defrag?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yanek Korff
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> 
> 
> He did wait an hour...  And he's confident the copy was 
> complete - same
> byte count on both the network drive and the local drive.
> 
> -Yanek.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:42 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > 
> > 
> > Sounds like he got impatient and didn't wait for the database
> > to finish
> > being copied back to exchsrvr\mdbdata from the network share 
> > - which needs
> > to complete before you get your dos prompt back.
> > 
> > After he killed ESEutil, he could've also copied it back 
> manually and 
> > renamed back to priv.edb instead of tape restore.  Then, the defrag 
> > effort would not have been in vain.
> > 
> > Louise
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:27 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > 
> > He followed the KB article, whatever it was.  Services were
> > down.  I think
> > he followed all the "right" procedures.  The temp file was on 
> > a network
> > drive that had plenty of room.  The defragged temp database 
> > exists on the
> > temp drive and is whole.  That's how he figures it freed 3.5 gigs.
> > 
> > -Yanek.
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The utility is dangerous in the wrong hands.  It can take a
> > > very, very, very
> > > long time to run.  It also gets very snitty when you don't 
> > > have enough room
> > > on the HD (or network share) to create the temp file that is 
> > > part of the
> > > defrag processWhere did he attempt to create the temp 
> > > fileon the
> > > same drive that is almost full?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And how is he enjoying his time at home these days?
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:16 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: disaster debriefing
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ok, so we had a disaster the other day.  Co-Worker of mine
> > ran eseutil
> > > against the private IS to free up some disk space.  We were
> > > at about 95%
> > > capacity on the drive, and it would creep up to about 98% 
> > > before the nightly
> > > incrementals, which brought it back down.  Now, I'm not 
> > positive what
> > > command he ran, but apparently it cleared about 3.5 gigs out
> > > of the IS.
> > > Right before eseutil exited, however, it apparently "hung" 
> > > waiting for a
> > > command prompt.
> > > 
> > > I'm a little fuzzy as to what happened after this.  I think
> > > he tried to
> > > reboot, and then the IS didn't come up -- he got some errors, 
> > > looked them up
> > > in the KB to very little avail.  So when I got in at 9 the 
> > > next morning,
> > > mail was down.  He was still there.
> > > 
> > > We managed to put humpty dumpty back together again restoring
> > > from the full
> > > backup we made right before starting this procedure.  It 
> > took several
> > > attempts - he had tried restoring from backup before but
> > > hadn't had any
> > > success.  I think the procedure we followed was this:
> > > Shut down all exchange services
> > > Start System Attendant & directory service
> > > Restore DS
> > > Stop System Attendant & directory service
> > > Restart System Attendant
> > > Restore IS
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Any other combination of services running/not running
> > didn't work out.
> > > We're using Veritas Backup Exec BTW.  Well everything's back
> > > to the way it
> > > was before we started this whole mess.  I know I've seen 
> > > discussions about
> > > eseutil on this list before, but I wanted to revisit thi

RE: Documenting Exchange 5.5 Public Folders

[Drewski]

You can use the List-Replicas part of PFADMIN to list all your public folders
and what servers they're on, but I don't know if it will show you how your
hierarchy is listed.  If you just > folder.txt at the end of the command, of
course, it will output to a text file.

-- Drew

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"Ook." - The Librarian.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Documenting Exchange 5.5 Public Folders


PFAdmin will do what you want I think though it's not graphical...

"DOS 6: Because there aren't enough problems in the world already."

-Original Message-
From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Documenting Exchange 5.5 Public Folders


I know there are 3rd party apps you can buy to do this, but is there a res
kit or other (read MS or free) utility that will allow me to list all my Pub
Folder hierarchy? If someone says "screen shots" I will hunt you down 

TIA

Chris

"One never notices what has been done;
  one can only see what remains to be done."
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RE: .pst over two gig

[Drewski]

Just keep it all in the exchange store.

-- Drew

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my heart. One is the vengeful, angry, violent one. The other is the loving,
compassionate one. The grandson asked, 'which wolf will win the fight in your
heart?' The grandfather answered, 'The one I feed.' --Unknown

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 1:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: .pst over two gig


This brings up an interesting dilemna.  I had to implement a rule that once
*.pst files reach 500 megs they are burned into a CD and supplied to the
user for archive purposes.  However, my user base only consist of 300 users.
How has everyone else addressed this insane waste of network storage?

-Original Message-
From: Mike Staines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: .pst over two gig


I remember reading here, and also on technet, about a 2 gig ceiling on a
.PST file. Wellone of my users just hit it. I also remeber hearing
about a tool that will help with data retrival from such a large .PST. my
question does any one know where I can get my hands on it? Is there
anything I have to worry about when using it?

Thanks, I know its not really an Exchange question, and Im sorry if its
off topic.

Mike Staines


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