RE: the IBM Shark

[John Allhiser]

As DASDI for os390/Zos mainframes they're great.
Not aware of the exact performance boundary.
What do you plan to use them for.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: the IBM Shark


Is anyone here happen to be running a IBM shark or possibly a Hitachi 9900
series SAN?  We are looking at both of these and I have heard rumors that
the shark has a performance boundary of 3.36 TB.  Just curious.

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RE: the IBM Shark

[John Allhiser]

Yeah.  That's why I mentioned the mainframe aspect.  I'm not too keen on
running large portions of our AD forest on it.
There was a murmuring among key higher-ups here to do the same thing while
running vmware on mainframe LPARs.   That was nipped in the bud after we
(network/server people) presented a cost comparison analysis on servers and
MS licensing vs. vmware, *nix, et cetera.
Eric, your talking about just the storage/access aspect.  It comes down to a
question of whether the initial savings is worth the potential problems of a
single piece of hardware handling multiple critical services.  


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: the IBM Shark


You're going to carve up the disks and share spindles with critcal servers
running high intensive databases? snicker

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: the IBM Shark


We plan on using it for our 17 critical servers and to cut the prices of
all the disk we have.  Mostly Windows/SQL, and some AIX and linux.  Out the
door we were going to start with 3tb so the rumor of a 3.36tb performance
boundary made me a little wary, but I'm not sure if there is any truth to
it.

e-

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: the IBM Shark

As DASDI for os390/Zos mainframes they're great.
Not aware of the exact performance boundary.
What do you plan to use them for.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: the IBM Shark


Is anyone here happen to be running a IBM shark or possibly a Hitachi 9900
series SAN?  We are looking at both of these and I have heard rumors that
the shark has a performance boundary of 3.36 TB.  Just curious.

e-

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RE: the IBM Shark

[John Allhiser]

We're on the same boat then.  
Back to the original question --
http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/products/ess/essspec.htm says:

Enables enterprises with multiple heterogeneous hosts to scale up to 55.9TB
physical disk capacity while maintaining excellent performance  

The server's base frame can hold a maximum of 16 eight-packs (128 disk
drives) which, when used with 145.6GB disks, yields physical capacity of up
to 55.9TB.

That's without partitioning and RAID 5 or 10.



-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: the IBM Shark


I don't think its ever worth the single piece of equipment failing,
obviously that's a serious concern.  The model of SAN we have been looking
at have redundancy built into them so I'm so much worried about the unit
failing as a whole.  We have voiced that but unfortunately money is also a
factor and they never think about downtime costs.  They want us to start
clustering also and they don't want to spend the money on the extra disk and
potentially have some of it wasted.

These are some of the problems you have when people other then the
network/servers people are making the roadmap.

Either way they have their hearts set on going to SAN.  We will probably
avoid putting our network servers(AD, DNS, AV, etc,.) on the SAN but almost
all the SQL/Oracle, Exchange, and file server stuff will go there.  Pretty
much anything they want us to cluster.

We do have all our mainframe stuff on its own SAN, for some reason they
don't like the network people touching it.  Even before I started working
here, old territorial boundaries I guess.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: the IBM Shark

Yeah.  That's why I mentioned the mainframe aspect.  I'm not too keen on
running large portions of our AD forest on it. There was a murmuring among
key higher-ups here to do the same thing while
running vmware on mainframe LPARs.   That was nipped in the bud after we
(network/server people) presented a cost comparison analysis on servers and
MS licensing vs. vmware, *nix, et cetera. Eric, your talking about just the
storage/access aspect.  It comes down to a question of whether the initial
savings is worth the potential problems of a single piece of hardware
handling multiple critical services.  


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: the IBM Shark


You're going to carve up the disks and share spindles with critcal servers
running high intensive databases? snicker

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: the IBM Shark


We plan on using it for our 17 critical servers and to cut the prices of
all the disk we have.  Mostly Windows/SQL, and some AIX and linux.  Out the
door we were going to start with 3tb so the rumor of a 3.36tb performance
boundary made me a little wary, but I'm not sure if there is any truth to
it.

e-

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: the IBM Shark

As DASDI for os390/Zos mainframes they're great.
Not aware of the exact performance boundary.
What do you plan to use them for.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: the IBM Shark


Is anyone here happen to be running a IBM shark or possibly a Hitachi 9900
series SAN?  We are looking at both of these and I have heard rumors that
the shark has a performance boundary of 3.36 TB.  Just curious.

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RE: MEC

[John Allhiser]

I'll be there.
(which doesn't really answer anything.)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MEC


OK, the time draws near.
Who is going?



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Director, Information Technologies
Superior Access Insurance Services
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Re: Haiku Friday

[John Allhiser]

Lake Shawnee is nice
I grew up in Topeka
Have a Boulevard

Exchange Two Thousand
Moved everyone today
Used ADMT


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From: Steven A. Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:24 PM
Subject: Haiku Friday


 Company picnic
 At Lake Shawnee tomorrow
 Getting drunk tonight
 
 Bought Lord of the Rings
 Watching my new DVD
 TV is too small
 
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RE: Cisco Discussion list

[John Allhiser]

www.groupstudy.com

Several lists there, and few questions are about certification.

(It's also the 5th entry listed on Google when you search on Cisco discussion
lists)

-Original Message-
From: A. Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 7:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cisco Discussion list



H there,

Can someone tell me a Cisco Discussion list?

Thanks,

Al
-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: CDOLive: Bulletinboard, cannot open requested folder!!

No prob but that's weird. Just tried it on a dev/test machine here and
it works. Can you make sure the folder entry ID is correct? And you also
replaced logon.inc? The error might also point to a permission problem.
Is the particular folder enabled for anonymous access? Can you provide a
URL I could try from here?

Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /

 -Original Message-
 From: Nikolaj Friis Larsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 5:08 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: CDOLive: Bulletinboard, cannot open requested folder!!
 
 Hi again, I still get the same error :( here is my global.inc file:
 
 ' Change this value if you want to connect to another Exchange
 Server/Site/Org that hosts the
 ' global address list.
 
 ' For Exchange 2000 Server use something like that:
 Const APP_ENTERPRISE = TechCorp
 Const APP_SITE = First Administrative Group
 Const APP_SERVER = W2KMGEXC1
 
 ' For Exchange 5.5 Server use something like that:
 ' Const APP_ENTERPRISE = YourExchangeOrganization
 ' Const APP_SITE = YourExchangeSite
 ' Const APP_SERVER = YourExchangeServer
 
 Hope your still interested in helping me.
 
 Regards,
 Nikolaj
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 4. juli 2002 01:13
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: CDOLive: Bulletinboard, cannot open requested folder!!
 
 
 Damn proxy server cache. That's not the file I uploaded :-( Get
 http://www.cdolive.net/download/bboardnew.zip to get the updated one.
It
 has changes in global.inc where you need to specify Exchange 2000
 Org/AG/Server plus changes in logon.inc to use those values.
 
 Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nikolaj Friis Larsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 12:49 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: CDOLive: Bulletinboard, cannot open requested folder!!
 
  Hmm still can't get it to work, I get the same error.
  Where did you make a change? My global.inc has the content:
 
  %
  'THIS CODE AND INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS IS WITHOUT 'WARRANTY OF
  ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, 'INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
  THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES 'OF MERCHANTABILITY AND/OR FITNESS FOR A
  PARTICULAR 'PURPOSE
 
 

'---
  ---
  '
  ' NAME: Global.inc
  '
  ' FILE DESCRIPTION: Contains global application settings
  '
  ' Copyright (c) CdoLive 1999. All rights reserved.
  '   Http://www.cdolive.com
  '   Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  '
  ' Portions:
  ' Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation 1993-1997. All rights
reserved.
  '
 

'---
  ---
 
  ' Folder ID of the folder which should be displayed
  ' Follow the installation description how to get this folder id for
a
  particular folder ' And change it here. Note that the  characters
at
  the start and end must be preserved
  const APP_FOLDER_ID =
 

1A447390AA6611CD9BC800AA002FC45A0300C94BB27963A79842BE6A687BEAF
  AE8970001E0B7
 
  ' Title of the application
  ' Is used to display a title in the browser title and application
 title
  and can be changed
  Const APP_TITLE = +++ Hot News +++
 
  ' Backround color of the main application window
  Const APP_BACKROUND_COLOR = 99
 
  ' Frameborder color of the main application window and the single
item
 
  window Const APP_FRAMEBORDER_COLOR = 99CCFF
 
  ' Frameborder shadow color of the main application window and the
 single
  item window
  Const APP_FRAMEBORDER_SHADOW = C0C0C0
 
  ' This sample display the last 10 entries of a folder, increase this
  number to display more items Const APP_ITEM_COUNT = 10
  %
 
  The only thing I changed where APP_Folder:ID
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 3. juli 2002 23:50
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: CDOLive: Bulletinboard, cannot open requested folder!!
 
 
  Okie. Checked into that again. Turned out that the published version
  wasn't up to date (I really need to find some time to put all the
new
  and updated stuff).
 
  I've now uploaded a slightly modified version which includes three
new
 
  values you need to set if running against Exchange 2000 in the
  global.inc.
 
  Should do the trick now. Sorry!!
 
  

RE: Wal-Mart

[John Allhiser]

Pronounced Eureka Springs.  

-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


Say it with me: Ozark mountains. Sounds pretty cool, eh? Rides pretty hot.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


I thought Arkansas was flat and straight. Did they make the twisty roads to
cheer themselves up?

-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


Any ExAdmin that's also a motorcyclist would be more than happy to commute
on Arkansas twisties. Arkansas two-lanes may be the best-kept secret in
cycledom.

Dale L. Orr
Network Administrator
DoD Polygraph Institute


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


Doesn't decent pay in Arkansas equate to being enough to afford the Learjet
to commute home to a real state every night?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:09 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
 They were hiring for that same job 2 1/2 years ago.  The pay was
 decent...but it's still in Arkansas.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:05 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Wal-Mart
 
 
 I have a opportunity to work there. Just curious if anyone 
 else worked there
 and what they thought about the working environment. They are 
 switching from
 5.5 to 2000.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:43 AM
 Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
  Hmm, yes.  Anyone, please spill all the details about their
 infrastructure.
  Juuust curious.
 
  :-)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 10 June 2002 09:59
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: OT: Wal-Mart
 
 
  Anyone here working or has worked for Wal-Mart in 
 Bentonville on their
 email
  system?
 
 
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RE: Wal-Mart

[John Allhiser]

No, that's a dam site southeast of Las Vegas.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


That's where they make vacuum cleaners?

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


Pronounced Eureka Springs.  

-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


Say it with me: Ozark mountains. Sounds pretty cool, eh? Rides pretty hot.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


I thought Arkansas was flat and straight. Did they make the twisty roads to
cheer themselves up?

-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


Any ExAdmin that's also a motorcyclist would be more than happy to commute
on Arkansas twisties. Arkansas two-lanes may be the best-kept secret in
cycledom.

Dale L. Orr
Network Administrator
DoD Polygraph Institute


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Wal-Mart


Doesn't decent pay in Arkansas equate to being enough to afford the Learjet
to commute home to a real state every night?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:09 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
 They were hiring for that same job 2 1/2 years ago.  The pay was
 decent...but it's still in Arkansas.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:05 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Wal-Mart
 
 
 I have a opportunity to work there. Just curious if anyone 
 else worked there
 and what they thought about the working environment. They are 
 switching from
 5.5 to 2000.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:43 AM
 Subject: RE: Wal-Mart
 
 
  Hmm, yes.  Anyone, please spill all the details about their
 infrastructure.
  Juuust curious.
 
  :-)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 10 June 2002 09:59
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: OT: Wal-Mart
 
 
  Anyone here working or has worked for Wal-Mart in 
 Bentonville on their
 email
  system?
 
 
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RE: OWA

[John Allhiser]

12 Steps?

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


I love you, Martin.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


We only get supporting roles. Ed is still the star.
He is kind of like the Dr Mark Green of Swynk. Except not as nice.



-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


Hey!!!  I'm the author of the how to move Exchange servers to a
different domain [1].  

Sheesh . .  Ed gets all the credit around here mutter


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From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA


Hi Ed,

Thanks very much for the tip. I tried using his SMTP address and can now
access his inbox via OWA. The strange thing is, there doesn't seem to be
an alias even remotely like this guys one. I'll go through my mailboxes
and check though because there must be a similar alias, as you
suggested. By the way, thanks a lot for all your highly informative info
on the swinc site. I've learned heaps about changing first servers,
Exchange service accounts and moving Exchange servers between domains.
This stuff just isn't covered in any Exchange 5.5 book I've read and
without your articles I would have been lost.

Regards
Tony


See if the user can get to the mailbox with his SMTP address instead of
the alias.  That would suggest that this user's alias is a substring of
another alias.  For example, his alias is joe and you have a joel
already.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony McCarthy
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 3:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA



Hi Everyone,

I have a problem with a mailbox that, for some reason cannot be found
with OWA. The user gets the following error message OWA was unable to
get to your inbox. There is nothing overtly unusual about this
particular user's setup. I have tried pointing his mailbox to both
servers in the site in his mailboxes Advanced Properties. I've also
tried leaving this field blank with no success. Apart from the OWA
problem his mailbox works fine. I've just about reached a point where
I'm going to delete his mailbox and recreate it. No one else in the site
has this problem. Does anyone know what could be causing this?

Regards
Tony

Tony McCarthy
Systems Engineer
OSI Software
Auckland
New Zealand
Ph:   64 09 522 5909 (Auckland)
Fax: 64 09 522 5901 (Auckland)
Mob: 021 703035 (NZ)

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RE: Bad Mail

[John Allhiser]

I'm not a Guru of the list, but the BadMail folder is a last resort folder for
messages that can't be delivered AND the NDR fails.  The amount of messages in
that folder would make sense given what you've said.  

To the issue of the address still being there:  What addresses are in your
default Recipient Policy, or did you have a separate policy for the temporary
address?

-Original Message-
From: tech forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Bad Mail


Gurus of the list.

Exchange 2000 SP2 Windows 2000 Server SP2.

I have an Exchange 2000 network and a few users have recently complained
of slow external mail delivery, three hour delivery being common.  I
looked through the queues and I was confused by what I saw.  

I read the articles in Tony Redmonds book and searched the normal FAQs
and MS support, although helpful information it doesn't help me
understand what I am seeing.

Looking at the the queue I see the normal stuff that I would expect:

Domain.com local delivery
Messages with 
And a few others 

Then I see 54 entries of wrongname.domain.com to a load of different
domains, with anywhere between 0 and 250 messages.  When we first set up
the Exchange 2000 server we set wrongname.domain.com as an alternative
address for every users account then took it off the recipient policy
but those aliases still exist.

I also went to the Bad Mail folder and found 100,814 entires in there.

Any ideas what is wrong here.  Also does Exchange have a way to delete
the Bad Mail after a certain point?

Thanks

Nathan Boyd

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RE: Bad Mail

[John Allhiser]

How long since you made the changes?  
Has the RUS made a complete pass on the AD? 

The message queues are dynamic.  Depending on your settings 
undeliverable mail will sit in the various queues until they time out.

Is the masquerade domain name on your SMTP virtual server 
brainparts.scilearn.com or scilearn.com?  This will affect 
where NDRs will be received.

There are alot of variables here.

As an aside:  Does anyone have a neat trick for emptying the badmail directory?
I'm thinking a scheduled task...

-Original Message-
From: tech forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Bad Mail


Our default address is domain.com (scilearn.com) and the address in the
SMTP queue is wrongdomain.domain.com (brainparts.scilearn.com.  The
local delivery is domain.com.

All accounts that were setup when we first implemented Exchange were set
to have brainparts.scilearn.com as an alias.  Those accounts still have
that address as an alias but it is no longer set in the default
recipient policy.

Seeing as the default address for all users is domain.com I don't know
why the mail server would try and send from wrongdomain.scilearn.com
even if it is an alias?

Thanks

Nathan

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Bad Mail


I'm not a Guru of the list, but the BadMail folder is a last resort
folder for messages that can't be delivered AND the NDR fails.  The
amount of messages in that folder would make sense given what you've
said.  

To the issue of the address still being there:  What addresses are in
your default Recipient Policy, or did you have a separate policy for the
temporary address?

-Original Message-
From: tech forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Bad Mail


Gurus of the list.

Exchange 2000 SP2 Windows 2000 Server SP2.

I have an Exchange 2000 network and a few users have recently complained
of slow external mail delivery, three hour delivery being common.  I
looked through the queues and I was confused by what I saw.  

I read the articles in Tony Redmonds book and searched the normal FAQs
and MS support, although helpful information it doesn't help me
understand what I am seeing.

Looking at the the queue I see the normal stuff that I would expect:

Domain.com local delivery
Messages with 
And a few others 

Then I see 54 entries of wrongname.domain.com to a load of different
domains, with anywhere between 0 and 250 messages.  When we first set up
the Exchange 2000 server we set wrongname.domain.com as an alternative
address for every users account then took it off the recipient policy
but those aliases still exist.

I also went to the Bad Mail folder and found 100,814 entires in there.

Any ideas what is wrong here.  Also does Exchange have a way to delete
the Bad Mail after a certain point?

Thanks

Nathan Boyd

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RE: Group Mail

[John Allhiser]

::Biting tongue::

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Group Mail


Pardon me Chris, but what does fsck mean? I am new to this list and
Exchange.

I checked the resource kit and it is not mentioned there.

TIA

--Felicity

 What the fsck is a Group Mail Pro? 
 
 Is it too much to ask for a properly phrased technical question once in a
 while? Christ on cracker you people...
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:31 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Group Mail
  
  
  How exactly does Group Mail Pro send without and SMTP server?

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

[John Allhiser]

Chef?

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Kind of, but instead of them being candy they're all chocolatey (that's never
spelt right surely) but still round, with a strange whiff of salt. A pint of
beer for the 1st to get the reference

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing
used

SM's...is that a new candy?

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used

Why should he fish when others can answer his question afresh and then
create a nice thread taking the rise out of him. Perhaps he's into SM
or something, not that I know what SM means, any more than I know what
FSCK means (if you're following the other threads)


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 20:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used

Hope so.  This man refuses to learn to fish, so he can just starve.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


That got him where it hurts Lori.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 19:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b
eing used

Except you're not new Mike.  You've been asking questions of this
caliber
for over a year.  I'm beginning to believe that you cannot read.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


You all are my friends here.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


A popular (read effective) antivirus for mail servers.

Google is your friend here.  :^)

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Yeah really...  I am a new administrator and I haven't a clue.  Sorry.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto
his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: Group Mail

[John Allhiser]

.mpg or .jpg?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Group Mail


Or the Flying Camel

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Group Mail


Oh points if you figure out what the The Bait N' Tackle is

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ryan Malayter
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Group Mail


Never mind, I found it on Google. Now I must go puke.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:37 PM
Posted To: Exchange List
Conversation: Group Mail
Subject: RE: Group Mail


If you really want to know mail me. It's probably not a good idea for the
whole group to knowDon't know how many of them I would make sick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ryan Malayter
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Group Mail


Okay, I know what the Dirty Sanchez and Cleveland Steamer are, but what
the hell is a Hot Karl?

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:34 PM
Posted To: Exchange List
Conversation: Group Mail
Subject: RE: Group Mail


How about a good old fashion hot karl or pozzing?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Group Mail


I think somebody needs a dirty sanchez...

 -Original Message-
 From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:10 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Group Mail
 
 
 BTW- I think most of you guys are a bunch of perverts, in case you 
 were somehow unaware of this fact.
 
 --Felicity
  I searched on the internet and it is a unix utility that
 does File System
  Consistency ChecKing.
  
  I thought it was a Unix applet, only I thought is was a finger like
  utility.  It thought maybe is was a Microsoft port like eseutil.
  
  --Felicity
  
   Sometimes you feel like a fsck.  Sometimes you don't.
   
-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Group Mail


! fsck.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Group Mail


It is a candy bar.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Group Mail


Pardon me Chris, but what does fsck mean? I am new to
 this list and
Exchange.

I checked the resource kit and it is not mentioned there.

TIA

--Felicity

 What the fsck is a Group Mail Pro?
 
 Is it too much to ask for a properly phrased technical
question once
 in a while? Christ on cracker you people...
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:31 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Group Mail
  
  
  How exactly does Group Mail Pro send without and
 SMTP server?


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RE: Relaying problems

[John Allhiser]

If you want to receive outside mail leave the any option checked. Relaying is
handled on the routing tab.


What does this have to do with the Filthy Sanchez?

-Original Message-
From: Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Relaying problems


Question, on the connections tab of the IMS properties in Exchange 5.5
there is an option under the heading accept connections that says from
any host secure or non-secure if this option is checked will people be
able to use us as a relay for SPAM? and is the second option of only form
hosts using a better option.

Any other info or advice anyone can give me on setting up our Exchange 5.5
server to not be used as a relay would be appreciated.

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RE: Relaying problems

[John Allhiser]

You've read Q193922?  
The option on the Connections tab is for multiple server sites, etc.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 5:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Relaying problems


I understand that relaying is handled on the routing tab, and that's where
the problem is, I have put restrictions in place in there and had problems
with outside mail not coming in and users not being able to send outside,
maybe I'm missing something that is obviuos but from all the lit\info I
have read the advice on this topic is weak, if you have any info you could
give me that would be appreciated.

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

[John Allhiser]

Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

[John Allhiser]

A popular (read effective) antivirus for mail servers.

Google is your friend here.  :^)

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Yeah really...  I am a new administrator and I haven't a clue.  Sorry.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

[John Allhiser]

Real friends pay my tab...

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


You all are my friends here.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


A popular (read effective) antivirus for mail servers.

Google is your friend here.  :^)

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Yeah really...  I am a new administrator and I haven't a clue.  Sorry.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

[John Allhiser]

KC.   Bryant's on Brooklyn around lunchtime.  :)

Seriously, I somewhat stumbled into MS Exchange administration 
and this list a few years ago.  Any question I've ever thought 
I had has been answered by 1)research and 2)someone on this list.


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


When and where John?

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Real friends pay my tab...

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


You all are my friends here.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


A popular (read effective) antivirus for mail servers.

Google is your friend here.  :^)

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Yeah really...  I am a new administrator and I haven't a clue.  Sorry.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: Mr. Coffee's Office up for grabs on Monday

[John Allhiser]

turn the 9 upside down

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: Mr. Coffee's Office up for grabs on Monday


Help would be greatly appreciated.

  -Original Message-
 From: Jerig, Tony  
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:48 PM
 To:   Burke, Sean; Gilligan, Todd; Coomer, Chris; Weber, Rick; Woodruff,
 Michael; Shumway, Neal; Rhodes, Kevin; Brown, Ted; Biller, Bradley;
 Wright, Aaron; Abner, Mary; Hingsbergen, Kathleen
 Subject:  Mr. Coffee's Office up for grabs on Monday
 
 I will be out of the office Monday for vacation and Tuesday visiting HPM.
 Thought I would send out a couple of quizzes to offer up the office while
 I am out.
 
 Here is the first quiz.  First person to email me the correct answer gets
 the office for Monday.  I will send a second quiz for Tuesday's lodging.
 
 Quiz #1:
 
 Both of these columns of numbers add up to different totals.  Can you move
 just one number to make the totals equal?
 
  2
  8
  3
  1
  7
 21
 
  6
  4
  5
  9
 24
 
 Sorry Sean -- I don't think Google will help on this one.
 
 T.
 

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RE: Message filter in exch5.5

[John Allhiser]

TurfDir?  It filters by address or domain.
The only wildcard I'm aware of is #.
e.g. #@lovelyporn.com  will block any sender from that domain.   
You may be able to use #@[210.1.1.1] 

You could risk blocking legitimate traffic if you block whole subnets.


-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Message filter in exch5.5


Hi

Does the message filter in the IMS for exchange except wildcards?  I'm
thinking it doesn't.  I got a press release from our security group and
being in the healthcare industry they jump on security issues, anyway
this release said that 40% of the worlds spam traffic comes from korea, the
majority of spam traffic to my server is in fact from korea, or more
specifically 210 A classes.  

I put '210.0.0.0 per request by the security group but just this morning we
saw some lovely porn from 210.114.174.121.

Is there a way to do wildcards?

e-

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RE: Cerification question

[John Allhiser]

Unpainted brick.

John Allhiser CCNP MCSE
Network Engineer 
Generali Reassurance 


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Cerification question


Shiminy.  Get a CCIE if you want the most impressive one.  But be
prepared to beat your head upside a few brick walls during the process.

Get an MCSE if you work with MS stuff.  Get the simple CCNA if you're
into basic routing.

There really is no best cert out there.  Horses for courses and all
that...

- Original Message -
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:57 PM
Subject: Cerification question


There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( and this
was
being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was going to get any type of
certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE ONE to get, Cisco is the premier
certification.One of the speakers was telling a senior class this before
graduation starts. Do anyone agree with that or does it make a
difference?

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RE: Cerification question

[John Allhiser]

This argument is like a Missouri wedding:  all relative.

John Allhiser CCNP MCSE
Network Engineer 
Generali Reassurance 
(Kansas side)

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


That guy is a knucklehead. The Best Cert is the one you need or help you
do your job better. That is the best cert. I have a CCNP and CCDP and I
really do not work in that industry. I really am an admin working with M$,
Cisco, Citrix, Unix etc I studied the Cisco stuff because we were
converting from x.25 to frame relay and I wanted to do it so I asked the
company to give me a shot. I used the knowledge again when we switched to
NVPN. My only point is that the Certs were about what I needed to improve my
skill set.

I had to hire a guy recently (echoing Lori and Ray) and I hired the guy that
had very little Practical experience but he did have an MCSE. I thought that
at least showed that he wanted to learn. I interviewed a few others that had
more experience and never took the time to educate themselves in their
chosen craft.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question


Don't invite that speaker again.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cerification question


There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( and this was
being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was going to get any type of
certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE ONE to get, Cisco is the premier
certification.One of the speakers was telling a senior class this before
graduation starts. Do anyone agree with that or does it make a difference?

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RE: Haiku Friday

[John Allhiser]

Moderator:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Muqeem Syed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


heh heh heh... now you could see the suspicious frown on my face.
there is one more government bloke on this list OK .. who is the
moderator of this list.. I want to see my attorney.. this is a breach of
UNIVERSAL SYS/NET ADMINS SOCIETY 
all that agreee with me.. please raise your hand and answer AYE... all
who dont do not bother... you will be ignored
KIdding folks... but its amazing to know that sometimes there are people
in the government THAT ACTUALLY WORK... I am surprised. 

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Pinquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


I am as ungovernmental as it gets - other than our financial aid dept.,
which I have nothing to do with other than provide email to them...
Jeremy

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RE: Haiku Friday

[John Allhiser]

Hsent Friday.
I guess there is a long waiting list at MyFoodDirectory.com


-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


Moderator:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Muqeem Syed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


heh heh heh... now you could see the suspicious frown on my face.
there is one more government bloke on this list OK .. who is the
moderator of this list.. I want to see my attorney.. this is a breach of
UNIVERSAL SYS/NET ADMINS SOCIETY 
all that agreee with me.. please raise your hand and answer AYE... all
who dont do not bother... you will be ignored
KIdding folks... but its amazing to know that sometimes there are people
in the government THAT ACTUALLY WORK... I am surprised. 

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Pinquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


I am as ungovernmental as it gets - other than our financial aid dept.,
which I have nothing to do with other than provide email to them...
Jeremy

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RE: Multiple Contacts?

[John Allhiser]

Don't want to step on any toes, (Ed, Mike) but that was a Saturday Night Live
skit.
It was about a major bank that had cutting-edge, quality products, but neglected
to 
register a domain name.  Subsequently they were one of the last to get on the
Internet.
Hence the clownpenis.fart...

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple Contacts?


Obviously, Exchange won't allow multiple contacts or custom recipients with
the same mail address. Would it be feasible to set up distribution lists
with the parent's e-mail address, set the custom recipients up with dummy
addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [1]), and add them both to the DL? I'm
not sure that makes sense for your situation-- I'm on cold medication and
may not be thinking clearly.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.

[1] © Ed Crowley, all rights reserved. [2]
[2] Hi Ed!

-Original Message-
From: Shields, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 8:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Multiple Contacts?


Guys, I need your help.

I'm create contacts in Win2k/E2k.  Simple enough.  I then try to
send a test message to one of them and I get:

Two recipients are configured with the same e-mail address.
Contact your administrator.
  exchange.maincampus.epsteinatlanta.org #5.1.4 

The message is correct.  There ARE two recipients configured
with the SAME EXTERNAL email address.

Here's the scenario:

You have student - John Smith in 8th grade.  You have his
brother - Jason Smith in 6th grade.  You create 1 contact for each of
them...each teacher should be able to mail the parents by the name of
the student they know.  Each of the contacts is pointed to the parents
email address   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Looking at the properties for each contact, shows that each
contact has a unique email address of  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .In addition, it shows the parent email address
as the primary on both.

In Outlook, I'd select from the gal one of the students and send
mail.  Wouldn't it match up what I selected in to: to the primary email
address and then just send it?

Is there something I'm missing or can this simply not be done?

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RE: Restore

[John Allhiser]

No soup for you!

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Amir El Aziq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Restore


 Possible corruption of the store.

Hmmm...

 Increased tape drive usage, which will result in a shorter lifespan for
your
 tape drive.

Uh huh..

 The wrath of the list.  :P

List wrath  I've got a theory that it's a similar concept to Road Rage.
Because listers don't have to meet each other (much), its easier to sling
mud and make dodgy vernacular gestures without ever considering the
consequences.  I reckon half the people on this list would actually get on
pretty well with the ones they slagg off, if they ever met them. [1]

[1] There will always be exceptions [2]
[2] I hate you all [3]
[3] Not all, just some.[4]
[4] I may have loved those people in a previous life


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Re: Stopping inbound email from a specific source

[John Allhiser]

Now I ruined *my* keyboard.

(home with sick kids)
John Allhiser


- Original Message - 
From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


 No masturbating for you then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 All I have left it my humor. Apparently everything I touch turns to crap
 today.
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:54 PM
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 We're just a funny guy today aren't we?
 
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Re: Stopping inbound email from a specific source

[John Allhiser]

s%*t!  
I meant beverage damage... :-)
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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


 I hope they were taking a nap when you were doing that!
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:34 PM
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 Now I ruined *my* keyboard.
 
 (home with sick kids)
 John Allhiser
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:28 PM
 Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source
 
 
  No masturbating for you then.
  
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:59 PM
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  All I have left it my humor. Apparently everything I touch turns to 
  crap today.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:54 PM
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  We're just a funny guy today aren't we?
  
  -Original Message-
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  Blackstone
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  Do you wear your leather mask while doing it?
  
  
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Re: Stopping inbound email from a specific source

[John Allhiser]

putting shovel away
Everything I want to say will only dig this hole deeper s...
I'll just add that from time to time my wife looks at this list...
taking shovel back out



- Original Message - 
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


 looking around
 Who?? Where is she??
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:42 PM
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 Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source
 
 
 ROFLMAO!!!  Uh huh...  I suppose there are some out there that might
 consider the result of your work a beverage...  Maybe even a snack..
 ;o)
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Allhiser
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:38 PM
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 s%*t!  
 I meant beverage damage... :-)
 - Original Message - 
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  I hope they were taking a nap when you were doing that!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Allhiser
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:34 PM
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  Now I ruined *my* keyboard.
  
  (home with sick kids)
  John Allhiser
  
  
  - Original Message -
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  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source
  
  
   No masturbating for you then.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:59 PM
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   All I have left it my humor. Apparently everything I touch turns to 
   crap today.
   
   -Original Message-
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
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   We're just a funny guy today aren't we?
   
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Re: Stopping inbound email from a specific source

[John Allhiser]

They're looking for you.
- Original Message - 
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


 looking around
 Who?? Where is she??
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:42 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source
 
 
 ROFLMAO!!!  Uh huh...  I suppose there are some out there that might
 consider the result of your work a beverage...  Maybe even a snack..
 ;o)
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Allhiser
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:38 PM
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 s%*t!  
 I meant beverage damage... :-)
 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:31 PM
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  I hope they were taking a nap when you were doing that!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Allhiser
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:34 PM
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  Now I ruined *my* keyboard.
  
  (home with sick kids)
  John Allhiser
  
  
  - Original Message -
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  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:28 PM
  Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source
  
  
   No masturbating for you then.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:59 PM
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   All I have left it my humor. Apparently everything I touch turns to 
   crap today.
   
   -Original Message-
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
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   We're just a funny guy today aren't we?
   
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RE: OWA for multiple sites, single org

[John Allhiser]

Works across multiple NT domains (with multiple 5.5 sites) equally well.
Configure the trusts properly, and have the users login as domain/user.

John Allhiser

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 1:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA for multiple sites, single org


I have done it and it worked.  I didn't have to do anything special.  Our
organization had a single NT user domain, however.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Matteson
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA for multiple sites, single org


Good afternoon to you all:

I am investigating setting up OWA for a multiple Exchange Site,
Single Org environment. The whitepaper MS Exchange Mail Access System Based
on OWA from the TechNet site made good reading, but Microsoft has a habit
of not indicating that a particular configuration will only work on a per
site basis, not Organization wide, nor how to make it work across multiple
NT domains.

If anyone has set up in the past, or is currently operating an
Exchange organization with multiple sites across multiple NT domains, using
OWA please contact me off list.

Thanks.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

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RE: How to Uninstall Exchange 5.5

[John Allhiser]

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec3.htm

The process is very similar to the directions in FAQ 3.65 

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 



-Original Message-
From: Kyle Dluhy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How to Uninstall Exchange 5.5


How do you remove MS Exchange 5.5 from and NT server.  I plan on
reinstalling Exchange.

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RE: ASP 0115 Errors on OWA

[John Allhiser]

I got these at one time too, and saved this article
MS wrote awhile back:  

The Dreaded ASP 0115 Error
error 'ASP 0115'
Unexpected error
/Web Name/ASP file name.asp
A trappable error occurred in an external object. The script
cannot continue running.
If you get this error message, you have a leg up on this process. When the
error is displayed on the returned ASP page, you now know two things:
what page it was that caused the problem to occur
that an exception occurred in an external object
If knowing the page that is causing the problem is enough for you to figure
out the problem, then you don't need to go any further. However, if this is
not the case for you, take a look at the second bit of information that this
error gives us. This error tells you that an exception occurred in an
external object.
Well, that is great information, right? All you need to do is to remove all
calls to external objects on the page and see if it fails. This is usually
not possible since removing all Server.CreateObject statements in an ASP
page would leave your page with only the intrinsic objects, such as
Application, Session, Request, and Response. ASP's power comes from being
able to create an instance of any Active Server Component or COM object. If
you remove all calls to external objects, this leaves you with a pretty
boring page. ASP considers any object that it creates with a
Server.CreateObject statement to be an external object.

Following articles may help:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q173/7/41.asp?LNG=ENGSA=AL
LKB
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q244/7/87.asp?LNG=ENGSA=AL
LKB
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q203/5/73.asp?LNG=ENGSA=AL
LKB

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 
-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: ASP 0115 Errors on OWA


Good morning to you all:

After closing all watertight doors and hatches and weathering the
latest virus storms, we started having problems with our OWA server. The
problem crops up intermittently with OWA users both from the Internet, from
our VPN and inside the corporate network.

The server is NT 4.0 with the Option Pack IIS 4 installed. All
Service Packs, necessary hotfixes and patches for Nimda and CodeRed were
installed (not confirmed if the rollup security patch was installed).

However, my problem is this, users are getting ASP 0115 errors when
attempting to reach the OWA server. This happens sometimes, before getting
the certificate popup, and sometimes after typing in their userid at the
basic login page. Usually hitting REFRESH will be enough to let the user in,
but sometimes they will have to wait a while, then try again.

I've searched Tech net, but most of the KB's point to coding errors.
All of this is stock coding directly from Microsoft, no locally developed
code at all.

Any suggestions as to where I should start looking to fix this, or
do I need to nuke the server and start again?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

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RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os

[John Allhiser]

Sooo...Following this logic...Seatbelts prevent car accidents, right?

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


And maybe you won't install IIS 5.0 on Windows 2000 servers???  Nimda
was able to infect IIS servers using IIS server as well.  I am not
forcing  you or missy to install the A/V on your own servers.  It's your
own choice. 

Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Meunier
 Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:04 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
 
 
 ...or maybe she won't create PUBLICALLY ACCESSIBLE SHARES on 
 an Exchange box, perhaps.  Or browse the web or read her 
 email from it.
 
 You identify your points of possible infection, and you 
 protect them.  I don't need to put mousetraps in my gasoline 
 tank, because I'm fairly certain that they'll never be able 
 to get in there.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:01 AM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
  Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
  
  
  I think you will think differently after you have one of
  Exchange server
  infected by virus (not that I am wishing for it, I hope it never
  happens!!!).  Not having any A/V product except Exchange server is a
  past thing as new virus comes out all the time with more 
 damage it can
  do to a workstation or a server, IMHO.
  
  Brian Ko
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
   missy koslosky
   Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 2:31 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Re: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
   
   
   What's he risking by not having file-based A/V on his
   Exchange server? There shouldn't be anything other than 
   Exchange on the server, so Antigen should protect his server 
   quite nicely.
   
   I'm not a proponent of file-based scanners on servers that
   aren't file servers.
   
   Missy
   - Original Message -
   From: Brian Ko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:28 PM
   Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
   
   
   You are risking a lot by not putting Antivirus software on
   your server. We've been running ScanMail and ServerProtect on 
   our Exchange server for a while w/o any problem.  We did 
   exclude ScanMail and Exchange folders from scanning.
   
   Brian
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven
Plender
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
   
   
We are currently using Antigen Anti-virus software on all of our
Exchange servers. We have not used any other anti-virus 
  software to
protect the server or operating system itself. Three
  years ago when
the Exchange systems were being installed it was known that file
scanning anti-virus software could or would corrupt 
   information store
files and perhaps log files as well. The architect
   recommended that no
anti-virus software be installed at that time. Desktops 
 and other 
servers are protected with file scanning anti-virus 
 software which 
is updated nightly. We have been asked / directed to install 
server file scanning software (NAI) on our Exchange 
 servers. This 
weekend I have been running it in the lab on an Exchange server 
and have excluded the partition with the information 
 store and the 
partition with the log files. Can you tell me what the 
 consensus 
is on this issue and do you run server anti-virus 
 software along 
with Exchange aware anti-virus software. Thanks.
   
Steve Plender
RBC DS
   
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RE: Messages with attachments are slow to display

[John Allhiser]

First delete the Queue.dat file from your IMC folder.  
You might be looping.  Second, with the info provided that sounds normal.

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Labonte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Messages with attachments are slow to display


NT4.0, SP6a, Exchange 5.5 SP4

When my users access messages with attachments the server responds very
slowly.  It does not appear that the size of the attachments matters only
that there is one.  If I try and open a message with an attachment it will
take 2 to 5 seconds longer to open.
When I read messages with attachments that are very long, they open in a
split second.

Any suggestions?

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RE: Disaster Recovery Test -Failure to start the IS service

[John Allhiser]

HaHa running to the server room to retroubleshoot that one problem server

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster Recovery Test -Failure to start the IS service


The server was unplugged

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stevens, Dave
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster Recovery Test -Failure to start the IS service


what ended up being the problem?

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From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster Recovery Test -Failure to start the IS service


I was able to resolve this issue.  Thanks for everyone that responded to
this problem.

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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disaster Recovery Test -Failure to start the IS service


Have you read the MSExchange Disaster Recovery whitepaper yet?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sethi, Ali
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disaster Recovery Test -Failure to start the IS service


Hello,

I decided to do a DR test today but unfortunately could not get the IS
service to start after the restore.  Below are my steps in the exact
order: Current Exchange server running 5.5 with sp4 on a windows 2k
server

1.Setup a separate Lan and promoted a bdc that I took off from our
existing network to a pdc. 
2.Ran setup of Exchange 5.0.  Did not join existing domain. 3.Gave the
server the same name as the orginal exchange server, the same site and
organization names as the existing exchange server.  (Understanding that
the site and organization names are case-sensitive) 4.Created a new
site. 5.Selected the same service account as the original exchange
server 
6.Did a directory Import from the most current directory.csv file
7.Upgraded recovery server to Exchange 5.5 then SP 4. (same as original
server)
8.Ran MS Exchange performance optimizer
9.Deleted and re-added the computer name on the pdc to create a new sid.
(After readding computer I was forced to remove the recovery server from
the domain and then re-add it to the domain) 10.Installed MS Outlook on
recovery server. 11.Performed the restore using the last full backup
tape (Used Veritas Backup Exec ver 8.6).  Restored only the Information
Store not the Directory since that was already imported in step 6.
(Note:  I normally do a brick level backup so the tape consisted of the
Directory store, Info store, and part of the individual mailboxes.  The
second tape contained the remainder of the mailboxes)  The info store
was approximately 33gb. 12.Restored both Priv and Pub data by selecting
them on the Exchange tab in Veritas backup exec ver 8.6. 
13. Once the restore was completed the Diretory, MTA, System Attendent
all started but the Info store would not start.  Also I could not do an
isinteg -patch because it could not find the IS database.  
14. I manually tried to start the IS service but received the error:
Windows could not start the MS IS service on the local computer and to
check the Event viewer for more info.  The Event Viewer said:  MS IS
service terminated with server specific error 4294966266.  
15.  Im going to check the knowledge base regarding this error but im
curious if any has ever come across this?  Did I not do a step right?
Should I have not imported the Directory store in step 6?  Im a little
stumped as to what I did wrong causing the IS not to start.  
Anyone have any ideas???

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RE: How to stop information store before backup?

[John Allhiser]

If you mean an offline backup -- What is the reason?
Do online backups and DO NOT enable the open file selection 
in BackUp Exec.

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Labonte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How to stop information store before backup?


I am new to exchange and I am not sure how to do this.

I am running Exchange 5.5, SP4 on Nt4 SP6

I want to stop the information store before I make a backup of the priv and
the pub files.  How can I do this?  Is there a script file I can run?

I am using backup exec to backup my server.

Thanks

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RE: Nimba virus

[John Allhiser]

For the sake of discussion:
I came across an infected site at home last night.
I use IE6 on 2K Pro SP2 at home. (it's also the standard at work)
The site loaded as the default IIS4 installation page.
Two other windows then popped up.  One was only visible in the task bar, the
other was the windows media player download page.  NAV also came up informing me
what happened and that it had quarrantined a file containing the Nimda virus.

It seems that a good desktop AV along with an updated browser will stop it.

I don't have a sandbox set up currently.  Has anyone actually tested the
approved browsers with an infected site and no virus protection?

just curious, 

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Nimba virus


That is why we rolled out IE6 in about an hour on virus day

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Nimba virus


You are probably more at risk from infection by users browsing infected
web sites. Any IE other than 5.01SP2, 5.5SP2, or 6 will download the
virus and execute it WITHOUT the user clicking on anything!

Don't ask me how I know...

-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Nimba virus



Hello,
We are currently running Exchange 5.5 SP4. I have updated the NAV for
Exchange virus definitions to the latest ones out on the Symantec site.
Are there any other precautions/security patches that you recommend be
added to prevent this virus from entering our Email environment?

Thanks,

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RE: Nimba virus

[John Allhiser]

That makes sense.  
Now, quite possibly, I won't waste the first weekend of Autumn 
on this lousy yet complex worm. 
Thanks!

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Nimba virus


We have Norton on 100% of our desktops with new signatures pushed daily.
trouble is, this thing hit MANY hours before Symantec had signatures to
catch it.

I took nimda's readme.eml file and replaced the mime encoded readme.exe with
a benign program of my own and tested IE 5.5 SP2. It does work. With IE 5.5
SP2, you will be prompted to save or run the attached readme.exe, but if you
click run, you still get infected.

IE 6 (so I've heard) honors the MIME header and ignores the .EXE extension
which causes IE 6 to fire up media player instead of just running the exe.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Nimba virus



For the sake of discussion:
I came across an infected site at home last night.
I use IE6 on 2K Pro SP2 at home. (it's also the standard at work)
The site loaded as the default IIS4 installation page.
Two other windows then popped up.  One was only visible in the task bar, the
other was the windows media player download page.  NAV also came up
informing me
what happened and that it had quarrantined a file containing the Nimda
virus.

It seems that a good desktop AV along with an updated browser will stop it.

I don't have a sandbox set up currently.  Has anyone actually tested the
approved browsers with an infected site and no virus protection?

just curious, 

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Nimba virus


That is why we rolled out IE6 in about an hour on virus day

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Nimba virus


You are probably more at risk from infection by users browsing infected
web sites. Any IE other than 5.01SP2, 5.5SP2, or 6 will download the
virus and execute it WITHOUT the user clicking on anything!

Don't ask me how I know...

-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Nimba virus



Hello,
We are currently running Exchange 5.5 SP4. I have updated the NAV for
Exchange virus definitions to the latest ones out on the Symantec site.
Are there any other precautions/security patches that you recommend be
added to prevent this virus from entering our Email environment?

Thanks,

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RE: Tech Buddies

[John Allhiser]

Give it time...

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Dustin Krysak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies



I just joined this list (mostly as a lurker to learn), and it has had some
pretty useful info so far. I just wanted to say it is refreshing to see some
tech people with a sense of humour, and people not waving the OT OT OT OT
banner and getting all bent out of shape about it. I know there is the time
and place for it, but like I said refreshing.

Dustin Krysak


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: September 21, 2001 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


With Ed?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


I'm sorry, I didn't catch all that. I was on the can.


Andy



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


We love you, Avi
Because of this you will be
Andy's Tech Buddy

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Avi Smith-Rapaport
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


You are sweet


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tech Buddies


I wanted Andy David to answer that question. He's Avi's special Tech
Buddy. We're pairing guys who ask neophyte questions with experienced
technical people who owe me big and who have also angered me in some
fashion. It's a great program and I'm optimistic about its potential.

If *you* know someone who would be a great Tech Buddy, let me know who he
is and which person you'd like to inflict upon him, and I'll see what I can
do.

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randal, Phil
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Gosh, that info is hard to find on www.microsoft.com...

NT4 server:  486/33, 32MB RAM if running IIS 4
Win 2K Prof: Pentium 133, 32MB RAM min, 64MB recommended
Win XP Ready: Win2K capable with at least 128MB RAM

Gave up looking at Microsoft's site having gleaned that much info.

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 21 September 2001 14:24
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


 what did they recommend exactly?




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RE: Tech Buddies

[John Allhiser]

Backup Exec for NT? 

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


Get bent???  Why, whatever do you mean?  I know what my definition of
bent is, but it might be different from yours...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Matteson
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


Dustin:

I'm sure that most of the people here get bent, just not on the
list.


John M.

-Original Message-
From: Dustin Krysak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies



I just joined this list (mostly as a lurker to learn), and it has had
some pretty useful info so far. I just wanted to say it is refreshing to
see some tech people with a sense of humour, and people not waving the
OT OT OT OT banner and getting all bent out of shape about it. I know
there is the time and place for it, but like I said refreshing.

Dustin Krysak


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: September 21, 2001 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


With Ed?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


I'm sorry, I didn't catch all that. I was on the can.


Andy



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


We love you, Avi
Because of this you will be
Andy's Tech Buddy

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Avi
Smith-Rapaport
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


You are sweet


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tech Buddies


I wanted Andy David to answer that question. He's Avi's special Tech
Buddy. We're pairing guys who ask neophyte questions with experienced
technical people who owe me big and who have also angered me in some
fashion. It's a great program and I'm optimistic about its potential.

If *you* know someone who would be a great Tech Buddy, let me know who
he is and which person you'd like to inflict upon him, and I'll see what
I can do.

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randal, Phil
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Gosh, that info is hard to find on www.microsoft.com...

NT4 server:  486/33, 32MB RAM if running IIS 4
Win 2K Prof: Pentium 133, 32MB RAM min, 64MB recommended
Win XP Ready: Win2K capable with at least 128MB RAM

Gave up looking at Microsoft's site having gleaned that much info.

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 21 September 2001 14:24
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


 what did they recommend exactly?




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RE: Tech Buddies

[John Allhiser]

Sure...
I love flowers.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


I suppose that is one definition, not the one I was thinking of.  I
don't imagine too many will think of it unless they are herbal
thinkers.  ;o)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Allhiser
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


Backup Exec for NT? 

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


Get bent???  Why, whatever do you mean?  I know what my definition of
bent is, but it might be different from yours...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Matteson
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


Dustin:

I'm sure that most of the people here get bent, just not on the
list.


John M.

-Original Message-
From: Dustin Krysak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies



I just joined this list (mostly as a lurker to learn), and it has had
some pretty useful info so far. I just wanted to say it is refreshing to
see some tech people with a sense of humour, and people not waving the
OT OT OT OT banner and getting all bent out of shape about it. I know
there is the time and place for it, but like I said refreshing.

Dustin Krysak


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: September 21, 2001 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


With Ed?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


I'm sorry, I didn't catch all that. I was on the can.


Andy



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


We love you, Avi
Because of this you will be
Andy's Tech Buddy

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Avi
Smith-Rapaport
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tech Buddies


You are sweet


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tech Buddies


I wanted Andy David to answer that question. He's Avi's special Tech
Buddy. We're pairing guys who ask neophyte questions with experienced
technical people who owe me big and who have also angered me in some
fashion. It's a great program and I'm optimistic about its potential.

If *you* know someone who would be a great Tech Buddy, let me know who
he is and which person you'd like to inflict upon him, and I'll see what
I can do.

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randal, Phil
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Gosh, that info is hard to find on www.microsoft.com...

NT4 server:  486/33, 32MB RAM if running IIS 4
Win 2K Prof: Pentium 133, 32MB RAM min, 64MB recommended
Win XP Ready: Win2K capable with at least 128MB RAM

Gave up looking at Microsoft's site having gleaned that much info.

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 21 September 2001 14:24
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


 what did they recommend exactly?




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RE: Nimda

[John Allhiser]

Not to mention a ycilop or two on the llawerif.

That saved our ssa.

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Nimda


Clearly snimda need to apply skcap ecivres to their srevres and
snoitatskrow.

I've taken the blame at our office because a few workstations were still on
IE5.5 with no service pack.  Someone visited a website.  That's all it took.


William


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Nimda


I GOT NAILED BY IT I WAS AT WORK FOR 36 HOURS STRAIGHT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO FIX IT.
FINIALLY I GOT ABOUT 98% OF THE VIRUS OFF ALL MY WORKSTATIONS. AND 100% OFF
THE SERVER.  MAN THIS VIRUS REALLY CLOGS YOUR SYSTEM AND SCREWS UP ALOT OF
PROGRAMS MOSTLY OFFICE 200O

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Nimda


We have not had any come in through email.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Nimda



I got none ... guess I don't have any friends ;)

--
Martin Tuip
MVP Exchange
Exchange2000 List owner
www.exchange-mail.org
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From: John Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:32 PM
Subject: Nimda


 Did everyone get nailed by Nimda? This list is dead today!

 I got eight hits from it last night. Thank god for proper working
antivirus
 apps!

 John

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RE: Removing Exchange 2000 after abortive install

[John Allhiser]

ummm...
Despite the extremely tasteless first sentence,
the Q is easy to find in the KB.

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer 
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing Exchange 2000 after abortive install


Bored - Yawn - Remind me not to help you when your bleeding in the street.

Does that personal rule come before or after making sure that your atomic
clock is within 0.001 of a second tolerance? Or before the one that says
always laugh when someone says the word 'Bottom' - Careful now, no
Sniggering.

Its amazing how many people have mailed me off list and agreed with some of
your attitudes. Its stinks

-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 September 2001 17:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing Exchange 2000 after abortive install

Query on Remove Exchange 2000 Completely. It's in the first 5 links. I
have a personal rule that I never give out a KB article that I find in the
first 5 links of a reasonably simple search.

Exchange is cruel with strong sadistic tendencies, so get used to it and
learn how to make reasonably simple searches.

There is an Exchange list where it's much nicer. No flaming at all there.
Try it out and see if you like the difference.

Welcome to the world of email administration. We scream at each other, roar
at our servers, and hurl furniture at end-users. Database admins are much
nicer folks, probably because they have to schedule backups every 5 minutes
and rewrite queries every 30 seconds.

Anyway, it's out there, so go and look for it and learn the art of querying
the KB. You won't master it if we hand you links on a platter.

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Guy
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing Exchange 2000 after abortive install


Have any of you ever considered just how far up your own snip


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RE: New Virus / Worm ??

[John Allhiser]

I believe readme.eml is loaded to an infected IIS website as an attachment to
every page in the site.
When the infected site is accessed, it is downloaded as an .exe  
 
This is what I see on securityfocus.com and the noted anti-virus sites.

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus / Worm ??


has anybody seen anything Official about the .eml files?  I've just heard
anecdotal evidence about them.  

-Michèle
Immigration site:  http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata:  http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam:  http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
Why do they put pictures of criminals up in the Post Office?  What are we
supposed to do . . . write to these men? Why don't they just put their
pictures on the postage stamps so the mailmen could look for them while they
delivered the mail? 
-


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Deward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus / Worm ??


If you block EXE's there is no need to wait for updates.  For more
information, visit http://www.cmsconnect.com

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus / Worm ??

Yes, NAI released an extra.dat  Still waiting for trend to put out an
update.  

Pete Pfefferkorn
Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
University of Cincinnati
51 Goodman Street
Cincinnati, OH  45221
Phone - (513) 556-9076
Fax - (513) 556-2042


-Original Message-
From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus / Worm ??


Does anyone have any more info on this??

Does NAI have an update?  I can't get through to them.

Thanks

Russell

-Original Message-
From: John Bricher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus / Worm ??


On the servers that were infected at our company, we found a mmc.exe that
was running in c:\winnt.  This appeared to be regenerating the readme.eml
files.  We killed the process, deleted the file, and deleted the .eml files.
This appears to have worked for now.

Not sure how to stop it from happening again.


John Bricher
Windows NT Engineer
Cybear, Inc.
561-999-3549
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RE: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange

[John Allhiser]

Oddly enough scratching chin we have this scenario where I work.
We bought the new IBM mainframe (2 actually).  It seems to me, they would
make great end tables for the couch conscious...
(Why does every IT person wear birth control glasses and lime green?  I may
be wrong...)
  We use HP servers with NT/2000 on the other side of the room.

Advantage: H...probably the IBMs

We have had a basically bullet-proof Exchange/NT system running on dual 733s
with about 4x ram and 6x storage more than the article uses as an example
(for twice the user base).  Basic maintenance and a don't f___ with it
policy.
  The TCP/IP stack on the new s tends to not fail so much any
more...

Advantage: HP/Exchange/NT

After working with SendMail at ATT, Exchange is a breeze. (read: routing)
  Linux mail daemons are great to configure, until you do 2500 at once, then
maintain it.
  defensive geek modeNo it isn't that fun to script! It's inetd.conf to
the nth power./defensive geek mode

Advantage: HP/Exchange/NT


HPOpenView, CiscoWorks, NAV and Trend, Mailbox Manager, IMC(s), AutoAccept,
various quick scripts, et cetera...
  The mainframe guy says he can run Tivoli and various other management and
collaboration products from the new mainframe without sacrificing the number
crunching processes.  He also mentions messaging...we in Network mention
Margaritas.

Advantage: HP/Exchange/NT

Mainframe guy buys...

Advantage: Mainframe


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Razler
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange


Hello:

I am not advocating either side.  I am just providing this as some
related reading for Exchange Admins.  Maybe you can even comment on it and
let the rest of us know if you disagree with it and why.

http://consultingtimes.com/Serverheist.html


Bob


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RE: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange

[John Allhiser]

I should probably add:

We run @ the same number of mailboxes from one server.
We have another for OWA, and another for recovery.
This will carry us into a 2000 migration.
So if we subtract 8 servers from the equation, peeling that Linux CD
out of the InformationWeek magazine's spine isn't all that cheap, is it?

Oh, wait.  I meant buying the Linux package along with the proven OS390.

Advantage: whatever works for you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Allhiser
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange


Oddly enough scratching chin we have this scenario where I work.
We bought the new IBM mainframe (2 actually).  It seems to me, they would
make great end tables for the couch conscious...
(Why does every IT person wear birth control glasses and lime green?  I may
be wrong...)
  We use HP servers with NT/2000 on the other side of the room.

Advantage: H...probably the IBMs

We have had a basically bullet-proof Exchange/NT system running on dual 733s
with about 4x ram and 6x storage more than the article uses as an example
(for twice the user base).  Basic maintenance and a don't f___ with it
policy.
  The TCP/IP stack on the new s tends to not fail so much any
more...

Advantage: HP/Exchange/NT

After working with SendMail at ATT, Exchange is a breeze. (read: routing)
  Linux mail daemons are great to configure, until you do 2500 at once, then
maintain it.
  defensive geek modeNo it isn't that fun to script! It's inetd.conf to
the nth power./defensive geek mode

Advantage: HP/Exchange/NT


HPOpenView, CiscoWorks, NAV and Trend, Mailbox Manager, IMC(s), AutoAccept,
various quick scripts, et cetera...
  The mainframe guy says he can run Tivoli and various other management and
collaboration products from the new mainframe without sacrificing the number
crunching processes.  He also mentions messaging...we in Network mention
Margaritas.

Advantage: HP/Exchange/NT

Mainframe guy buys...

Advantage: Mainframe


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Razler
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange


Hello:

I am not advocating either side.  I am just providing this as some
related reading for Exchange Admins.  Maybe you can even comment on it and
let the rest of us know if you disagree with it and why.

http://consultingtimes.com/Serverheist.html


Bob


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RE: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange

[John Allhiser]

I'd like to see how the product enhances productivity in the Enterprise.

Banner Of The Day...

John Allhiser

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scharff, Chris
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange


It's amazingly accurate if the following assumtions are made:
a. bandwidth is unlimited
b. bandwidth is free
c. MCSEs are all paper
d. Unix admins are all rocket scientists
e. The Unix community if full of messaging experts who are willing to drop
everything to run to the aid of anyone with a software issue.
f. The exchange community is not.
g. morons were hired to design the Exchange infrastructure

I'd like the specs on Jimmy's Groupware application though. The T in TCO
includes more than what he's listed... I'd like to see how the product
enhances productivity in the Enterprise. That certainly has to be factored
in unless you're a SSM who isn't aware of how what they do and the services
they provide effects the bottom line.

BTW, Jimmy went out of his way to be fair to the Exchange/PC solution,
since the industry average is 350 mailboxes per server is a perfect example
of zealotry blotting out rational thought processes.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Razler
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 9/13/2001 6:35 PM
Subject: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange

Hello:

I am not advocating either side.  I am just providing this as
some
related reading for Exchange Admins.  Maybe you can even comment on it
and
let the rest of us know if you disagree with it and why.

http://consultingtimes.com/Serverheist.html


Bob

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RE: Didn't get any reply, Reposting... Strange SP1 Upgrade Problem...

[John Allhiser]

click yes button a million times to overwrite all
newer files that SP1 copied over.  (Evidently, if you clicked no for
all button, the same problem persists)
Did anyone run into similar problems like this before?

Yes.  After a messy divorce, I met someone a bit more compatible.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Chan
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Didn't get any reply, Reposting... Strange SP1 Upgrade
Problem...


This is a repost since I didn't get any reply.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Andrew,

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange SP1 Upgrade Problem...


Have anyone encountered difficulties upgrading to E2K SP1?  Here is what
we are having trouble with:

W2K/SP2 DC with E2K running fine.
After upgrading to E2K SP1 (the upgrade process went fine), The IS will
not start with an event ID 7024 The MS Exchange IS service terminated
with service-specific error0.  After researching the MS Knowledge Base,
and found articles (Q285116, Q283179, Q298429, and Q303186).  None of
them fits the scenario.  They are all checked out according to the
articles.  The only way I can get the Exchange box back is to reinstall
E2K setup again, and click yes button a million times to overwrite all
newer files that SP1 copied over.  (Evidently, if you clicked no for
all button, the same problem persists)

Did anyone run into similar problems like this before?

TIA for any suggestions.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT  W2K) + CCNA
 

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RE: Didn't get any reply, Reposting... Strange SP1 Upgrade Problem...

[John Allhiser]

Perzactly.
Not enough information.

Your repetitive message box negation could have been avoided with a clean
(and documented this time) install.
Exchange 2000 uses the features of its native OS a bit too much for it to
ignore a re-install.

John Allhiser

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Didn't get any reply, Reposting... Strange SP1 Upgrade
Problem...


It got posted the first time.  There is no need to repost.  If you got no
answers it's because nobody knows the answer.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Chan
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Didn't get any reply, Reposting... Strange SP1 Upgrade
Problem...


This is a repost since I didn't get any reply.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Andrew,

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange SP1 Upgrade Problem...


Have anyone encountered difficulties upgrading to E2K SP1?  Here is what
we are having trouble with:

W2K/SP2 DC with E2K running fine.
After upgrading to E2K SP1 (the upgrade process went fine), The IS will
not start with an event ID 7024 The MS Exchange IS service terminated
with service-specific error0.  After researching the MS Knowledge Base,
and found articles (Q285116, Q283179, Q298429, and Q303186).  None of
them fits the scenario.  They are all checked out according to the
articles.  The only way I can get the Exchange box back is to reinstall
E2K setup again, and click yes button a million times to overwrite all
newer files that SP1 copied over.  (Evidently, if you clicked no for
all button, the same problem persists)

Did anyone run into similar problems like this before?

TIA for any suggestions.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT  W2K) + CCNA



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RE: God Bless America

[John Allhiser]

Overnight by air is temporarily(?) not allowed...

John Allhiser

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Great Cthulhu
Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


I think everyone should start FedExing their luggage. Thanks to Andy Webb
for the suggestion.

(:=
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CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


You wouldn't want to check Lasagna as baggage.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


s.o.l. = so overwhelmingly lovely
Did I mention I make a great Lasagna?

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Great Cthulhu Jones wrote:

 She is and she'll turn you into a frog unless you beg for mercy right now.

 Or offer to buy her something inexpensive, yet tasteful. And possibly
tasty.

 (:=

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:57 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: God Bless America


 My therapist recommended pissing off Kimmie to confront my anxiety
 and fear.  I think I'm cured.  She's not going to be at MEC, is she?

 On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Ed Crowley wrote:

  The Constitution prohibits the U.S. Government from limiting with your
 right
  of free speech, but it doesn't say anything about Kimmie.
 
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
  Tech Consultant
  Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
  All your base are belong to us.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Great Cthulhu
  Jones
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:23 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: God Bless America
 
 
  Ooooh... I wouldn't go there... Kimmie's not someone you want to dig at.
  Technically, all this is off-topic and the list owners have every right
to
  rip us all a new gill slit for this stuff.
 
  Given who's in Kimmie's circle of friends, I don't think it's a good
idea
 to
  zing her. She'll fight her own battles, but you really don't want guys
 like
  me in the audience throwing popcorn at you.
 
  Don't worry, I think you're the bee's knees. The cat's pajamas. You're
all
  over that constitution like a donkey on a waffle.
 
  (:=
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:05 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: God Bless America
 
 
  http://www.fathermag.com/US_Constitution/01st_amendment.shtml
 
  as long as the Exchange list owners allow it, you are s.o.l
 
 
  On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Kim Cameron wrote:
 
   i appreciate that Thomas Paine has subbed to the list and is
dispensing
   wisdom, but can we cut the monotheistic references, referrals, and
   submissions?  i find it unintellectual to invoke the names of deities
to
   avert the calamities of man.  perhaps there is a monotheist discussion
  list
   somewhere, where they might ponder and relish the unbelievable fact
that
  it
   took 226 years for this email to post to the list.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guy Stewart
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:55 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: God Bless America
  
  
   THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the
   sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of
their
   country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of
man
   and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have
this
   consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious
the
   triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is
dearness
   only that gives every thing its value.
  
  
  
   Thomas Paine
  
   1776



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RE: God Bless America

[John Allhiser]

Shoggoths?  Then the drop box becomes an issue.

Not to mention scales...

John Allhiser

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Great Cthulhu
Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


Overnight by subterranean shoggoths, then. Just because your preferred
method isn't available doesn't mean you can't use another.

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Allhiser
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


Overnight by air is temporarily(?) not allowed...

John Allhiser

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Great Cthulhu
Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


I think everyone should start FedExing their luggage. Thanks to Andy Webb
for the suggestion.

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


You wouldn't want to check Lasagna as baggage.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


s.o.l. = so overwhelmingly lovely
Did I mention I make a great Lasagna?

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Great Cthulhu Jones wrote:

 She is and she'll turn you into a frog unless you beg for mercy right now.

 Or offer to buy her something inexpensive, yet tasteful. And possibly
tasty.

 (:=

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:57 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: God Bless America


 My therapist recommended pissing off Kimmie to confront my anxiety
 and fear.  I think I'm cured.  She's not going to be at MEC, is she?

 On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Ed Crowley wrote:

  The Constitution prohibits the U.S. Government from limiting with your
 right
  of free speech, but it doesn't say anything about Kimmie.
 
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
  Tech Consultant
  Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
  All your base are belong to us.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Great Cthulhu
  Jones
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:23 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: God Bless America
 
 
  Ooooh... I wouldn't go there... Kimmie's not someone you want to dig at.
  Technically, all this is off-topic and the list owners have every right
to
  rip us all a new gill slit for this stuff.
 
  Given who's in Kimmie's circle of friends, I don't think it's a good
idea
 to
  zing her. She'll fight her own battles, but you really don't want guys
 like
  me in the audience throwing popcorn at you.
 
  Don't worry, I think you're the bee's knees. The cat's pajamas. You're
all
  over that constitution like a donkey on a waffle.
 
  (:=
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:05 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: God Bless America
 
 
  http://www.fathermag.com/US_Constitution/01st_amendment.shtml
 
  as long as the Exchange list owners allow it, you are s.o.l
 
 
  On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Kim Cameron wrote:
 
   i appreciate that Thomas Paine has subbed to the list and is
dispensing
   wisdom, but can we cut the monotheistic references, referrals, and
   submissions?  i find it unintellectual to invoke the names of deities
to
   avert the calamities of man.  perhaps there is a monotheist discussion
  list
   somewhere, where they might ponder and relish the unbelievable fact
that
  it
   took 226 years for this email to post to the list.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guy Stewart
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:55 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: God Bless America
  
  
   THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the
   sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of
their
   country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of
man
   and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have
this
   consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious
the
   triumph. What we

RE: Along the lines of a Clancy plot

[John Allhiser]

I agree wholeheartedly. 
Finger pointing is not my job, nor my inclination.
The recent news has the FBI following many clues that do all the pointing.

We are mainly an insurance company.(reinsurance actually)
Our parent corporation is Generali in Italy.
A couple of our divisions here are mutual funds and other financial
vehicles.
We are in Kansas City, Missouri, but Generali has offices on the Avenue of
Americas.
Business here is going on, but at a different pace.

I found the posting while doing some searching last night because
I felt helpless about the situation, and wanted to do something.
It sent chills down my spine.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Along the lines of a Clancy plot


Scary yeah. Anyways .. my advice is to try and return to normal activities.
Earlier this year I have witnessed enormous fire in my town which killed
lots of teenagers.

One of the lessons is to try and pick up life and don't point fingers at
persons before the real cause/reason has been found out. It is normal for
people to do this but try to prevent it.


Martin

- Original Message -
From: Chinnery Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: Along the lines of a Clancy plot


 Thanks, Martin.  That is rather disturbing, isn't it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:35 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Along the lines of a Clancy plot


 Copies can be found at:
 http://www.k2games.net/sept11/

 Martin (that ain't my site)






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RE: DISCLAIMER

[John Allhiser]

Try: IMSEXT.DLL

-Original Message-
From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: DISCLAIMER


I'm sure you all think this is very good advice, but I couldn't find
anything about adding disclaimers or a global signature line by typing
in either of those phrases into the search box.  I guess you have to
know the secret code to get any of these search engines to cough up
the information you're looking for.  Sure wish I knew it.  I have the
same problem with the Microsoft KB.

V. Ewart
Hunt  Associates

-Original Message-
From: kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: DISCLAIMER


Disclaimer should add automatically  for all the users in my exchange
server, when ever they send a mail.
 - Original Message -
From: Kuminda Chandimith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: DISCLAIMER



 Before everyone come and flame you..
 Take my advise...go to
   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp

 Other wise your (apparently) first day in the list will not be a
pleasant
 encounter at all..

 good luck



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 -Original Message-
 From: kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 September 2001 12:46
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: DISCLAIMER


 Hi all,


 How do I add the Disclimer massege to each mail which is going out
from my
 exchange server, (Exchange 5.5 SP4)

 thanks
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RE: Along the lines of a Clancy plot: another one

[John Allhiser]

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/Forum16/HTML/021559.html

I haven't checked out the validity of this yet.
Possibly a sickening coincidence.

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance
 

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Along the lines of a Clancy plot


Thanks, Martin.  That is rather disturbing, isn't it.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Along the lines of a Clancy plot


Copies can be found at:
http://www.k2games.net/sept11/

Martin (that ain't my site)



- Original Message -
From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: Along the lines of a Clancy plot


 could someone explain exactly what this xinoephoel stuff was all about?
all
 the posts seem to have been wiped off now. the bits i did manage to read
 didn't make much sense either.

 can anyone clarify what was said and what it has to do with the terrible
 events of yesterday?

 it all seems kind of sinister...

 regards,
 dan.


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RE: Terrible disasters and an expression of sympathetic grief.

[John Allhiser]

If we step back a moment from the horrific events happening, we realize that
the world has changed abruptly this morning.  The United States is at war,
(officially or not) and it is for the first time that it has affected the
mainland since 1812.  

God help us all...

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance


-Original Message-
From: Velazquez, Carlos F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terrible disasters and an expression of sympathetic grief.


plane just crashed at Camp David

-Original Message-
From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terrible disasters and an expression of sympathetic grief.


Does anyone know if the Wired Magazine is located in the World Trade Center?


-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terrible disasters and an expression of 
sympathetic grief.


Very thoughtful of you, Dean. We have all lost someone 
today: the person we
woke up as. And I doubt if we'll ever see them again. Our 
thoughts and
prayers are with the victims.

Dale L. Orr
Network Administrator
DoD Polygraph Institute


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Terrible disasters and an expression of sympathetic grief.


Let me step out from behind the curtain to say I feel deep 
shock and grief
for those of you who are affected by the disasters happening 
today. Some of
you are only in shock; others have lost dear ones. Some of 
the people on
this list may have been injured or killed, even.

The enormity of this day overwhelms us all. The images, 
reports, and losses
touch every human deeply. Let me offer myself as someone you 
can correspond
with, should you have any need. Many of you placed 
yourselves at my disposal
during my time of loss: I am here for you, should you need 
in your time of
loss.

It is peacemaking and sharing of grief that keeps us human.

You can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dean Webb


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RE: my 2 cents

[John Allhiser]

Ditto.  


John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: my 2 cents


Sir, I have been on the line.
I have taken up a weapon and stood a watch; to borrow a line.

I don't need some jonnie come lately yapping about what should have been
and who's gutted what and who's failure it was.
Now is not the time to crank up the blame machine. Now is the time to pitch
in, fix the problem and survive the disaster.

You don't bitch about who's responsible for the dam breaking while the water
is rushing towards you.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there
are none so blind as those who will not see
--The Moody Blues (I know you're out there)


-Original Message-
From: Velazquez, Carlos F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: my 2 cents


you have the right to continue to stick your head in the sand.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: my 2 cents


Oh Stuff it Carlos.

We don't need your crap right now.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there
are none so blind as those who will not see
--The Moody Blues (I know you're out there)


-Original Message-
From: Velazquez, Carlos F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: my 2 cents


The world, not just the US, has just changed. Assume we will be on war
footing for the next several months. The news is reporting as I type that
terrorist organizations are saying that not all attacks are over.

Expect all sorts of shortages in fuel, food, etc. Nationwide curfews are in
the offing and should be implemented immediately. This me or X or
whatever generation has just learned a tough lesson: those that fail to heed
history are doomed to repeat it. This is Pearl Harbor all over again, except
it is worse.

We have grown fat, inattentive, complacent, naively thinking the rest of the
world hold the same values and respect for human life that we have. Now we
know better.

This is a massive incomprehensible failure in intelligence. The liberals
gutted the CIA  the FBI in the 70's and we are now reaping the rewards.

The only way to have and preserve peace is to be always ready for conflict
and to have the gonads to follow up and implement what we have learned from
the hard lessons of history.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terrible disasters and an expression of sympathetic grief.


If we step back a moment from the horrific events happening, we realize that
the world has changed abruptly this morning.  The United States is at war,
(officially or not) and it is for the first time that it has affected the
mainland since 1812.  

God help us all...

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance


-Original Message-
From: Velazquez, Carlos F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terrible disasters and an expression of sympathetic grief.


plane just crashed at Camp David

-Original Message-
From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terrible disasters and an expression of sympathetic grief.


Does anyone know if the Wired Magazine is located in the World Trade Center?


-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terrible disasters and an expression of 
sympathetic grief.


Very thoughtful of you, Dean. We have all lost someone 
today: the person we
woke up as. And I doubt if we'll ever see them again. Our 
thoughts and
prayers are with the victims.

Dale L. Orr
Network Administrator
DoD Polygraph Institute


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Terrible disasters and an expression of sympathetic grief.


Let me step out from behind the curtain to say I feel deep 
shock and grief
for those of you who are affected by the disasters happening 
today. Some of
you are only in shock; others have lost dear ones. Some of 
the people on
this list may have been injured or killed, even.

The enormity of this day overwhelms us all

RE: Can someone let me know...

[John Allhiser]

and FWIW etc.  try  http://drudgereport.com  
alot of the links get through...


John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance

-Original Message-
From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can someone let me know...


try this one
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,2838379%255E2,00.html

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 September 2001 16:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can someone let me know...


Dig a hole...

Seriously, try to find some less traveled websites... Even foreign news
sites...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Manske
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Can someone let me know...


Hey, I'm stuck here without radio or TV.  The entire net (news wise anyway)
is dead.  What the
 heck is going on?  I hear all kinds of rumors about martial law, the
government telling people to go home and stay home...  Should I stay at
work, do I need to stay off the roads, what the hell is going on.

--
Craig Manske [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IS Manager
Stanek Tool Corp. http://www.stanektool.com
New Berlin, WI


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RE: Can you belive this crap?

[John Allhiser]

Uh, go to their site   http://www.coffeecup.com/
They have a pop up ad-

-Original Message-
From: John Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can you belive this crap?


This email could have been spoofed...I seriously doubt the CEO of any
company would do something like this. I am guessing that it's a disgruntled
employee.

John

-Original Message-
From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Can you belive this crap?


I supposed if they find out that people in France were responsible for the
terrorist attack that we should massacre all the men women and children
there that had nothing to do with it.

Nice company coffee crap



-Original Message-
From: CoffeeCup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: September 11, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Loyal User
Subject: The Attacks on the US


Hello everyone,

This is Nicholas Longo, the CEO of CoffeeCup Software.
As you may have heard the World Trade Center and Pentagon
were attacked about 45 minutes ago.

The Team at CoffeeCup would like to send our heart felt
sorrow to those that perished in these attacks.

We would like to also say on record that if any country
is found responsible for these attacks, we call for that
country's complete destruction and annihilation.

Do not let terrorism which is designed to create fear
and stop production, halt your life or work.

Stay focused and do not stop what you are doing.


-May God bless us all and the decisions we must make.


Nick-




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RE: Can someone let me know...

[John Allhiser]

Total chaos?  Heightened activity due to alert status, maybe.

-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can someone let me know...


or command centers/Federal operations... my g/f is in Huntsville and she
reported to me that is it total chaos, due to the missile command center in
the area

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Strome
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can someone let me know...


Stay where you feel safest. No martial law. All flights in North America and
all borders are closed. I personally would stay away from any large
buildings, federal buildings, financial centers, anything that can draw
targets.

-Original Message-
From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Can someone let me know...


Hey, I'm stuck here without radio or TV.  The entire net (news wise anyway)
is dead.  What the  heck is going on?  I hear all kinds of rumors about
martial law, the government telling people to go home and stay home...
Should I stay at work, do I need to stay off the roads, what the hell is
going on.

--
Craig Manske [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IS Manager
Stanek Tool Corp. http://www.stanektool.com
New Berlin, WI


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RE: Analysis (was: Terrible disasters...)

[John Allhiser]

Daniel,

I have calmed enough...

Eloquent words.  I only wish I could have expressed my own thoughts so
precisely earlier.

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Analysis (was: Terrible disasters...)


I beg to differ with your narrow analysis.

For the US, this is the first time since 1812 that the civilian population
has been under attack. It is the first time since 1941 that the US has been
overtly attacked in an obvious act of war (I fail to find any other words to
describe the actions of this morning). For the world, we have witnessed that
a relatively small group of individuals can hold the world at hostage; that
is unparalled in all of human history.

Wall Street is shut down as is the Exchange in London. Between those two
exchanges are the vast bulk of the world's business dealings. Everything is
shut down. Imagine that you, as in individual, just found that you cannot
access your cash, your bank accounts and that your home has just collapsed.

Yes, there has been speculation for years that such a thing could happen. It
is no longer speculation; it is fact. I note that your employer is based in
Massachusetts; it is not outside the realm of possibility that you have
customers, friends, relatives involved in this massacre. I am, quite
frankly, totally unable to understand how you could not be struck with
horror and revulsion at what has happened to us as a people, as a nation and
as a point of time.

I will NOT join you in saying this is nothing but a demonstration of
vulnerability; this was the cold-blooded, calculated murder of tens of
thousands of civilians, non-combatants in whatever war these aggressors
think they are fighting. At this moment (tomorrow I may feel calmer) I am of
the opinion that anyone who voices such namby-pamby it's only... as you
have below is an apologist who is, at the very least, emotionally aligned
with the soon-to-be-corpses who perpetrated this monstrous crime.


 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Analysis (was: Terrible disasters...)


 On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, John Allhiser wrote:
  If we step back a moment from the horrific events happening, we
  realize that the world has changed abruptly this morning.

   I hate to be callous, but the only thing that has changed
 is public perception.

   People have been pointing out how vulnerable a crowded city
 is to any kind of attack or disaster for decades.

   People have been pointing out how vulnerable the USA is to
 terrorist attack for at least twenty years.

   No analyst in this field would be surprised that this occurred.

 --
 Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the
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 other person,
 | entity or  | organization.  All information is provided without
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Along the lines of a Clancy plot

[John Allhiser]

From a search on google:

AP. US officials say Osama bin Laden is posting instructions for terrorist
activities
on sports chat rooms, pornographic bulletin boards and other Web sites. ...

The USA Today link was dead.  The blurb was enough to pique my curiosity.
A little further digging, and this came up:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enframe=rightth=54ab4d241c34e0ccseekm=
8264f396.0109111411.6a8f8275%40posting.google.com
(The link wraps)

Notice the subject re:911 (or 09/11/2001) and pay attention to the dates.
I know, it's the Internet... but it is quite ominous.  Don't you think?


John Allhiser



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RE: God Bless America

[John Allhiser]

I agree, although Thomas Paine didn't have to spend $126 to fill his Tahoe
up at the QuikTrip.
The gouging started Tuesday night in the Heartland.

John Allhiser

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


http://www.fathermag.com/US_Constitution/01st_amendment.shtml

as long as the Exchange list owners allow it, you are s.o.l


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Kim Cameron wrote:

 i appreciate that Thomas Paine has subbed to the list and is dispensing
 wisdom, but can we cut the monotheistic references, referrals, and
 submissions?  i find it unintellectual to invoke the names of deities to
 avert the calamities of man.  perhaps there is a monotheist discussion
list
 somewhere, where they might ponder and relish the unbelievable fact that
it
 took 226 years for this email to post to the list.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guy Stewart
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: God Bless America


 THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the
 sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their
 country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man
 and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this
 consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the
 triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness
 only that gives every thing its value.



 Thomas Paine

 1776




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RE: OT - great fish tacos

[John Allhiser]

It's hazy here in Kansas City.  I plan on grilling some Mahi Mahis tonight.
I suppose I could put them in a tortilla...

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - great fish tacos


It's also a beautiful day here in San Diego.  I had a crappy turkey sandwich
and some stale crackers for lunch.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:51:51 -0700 , Exchange Discussions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just thought I'd let some of you folks know that it's another beautiful
 sunny California day here in Sausalito and i just had some great
Thai-style
 Ahi fish tacos w/ lemongrass, shredded almonds and carrots, cilantro,
 lettuce and tomato .mu.  Just needed the cervesa bohemia to
make
 it complete!
 
 later.byron
 
 Byron Kennedy
 MarketTools Inc.
 ___
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 market research tools.  MarketTools provides business tools to build and
 deploy sophisticated surveys, gather responses and report results online.
 MarketTools is privately held and headquartered in Mill Valley CA.  See
 www.markettools.com, www.ztelligence.com and  www.zoomerang.com.
 
 
 
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RE: Backing up Exchange using Veritas Exec 8.x

[John Allhiser]

Someone has a shortcut key created for this question, right?

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance 

-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backing up Exchange using Veritas Exec 8.x


Hello,

For those of you that use Veritas Backup Exec to backup the Exchange server,
what type of back up jobs do you run?  Daily Differentials and Full every
Friday.  DO you backup the IS and the individual mailboxes every evening or
just the IS.  I think we here have been backing up the individal mailboxes
every day as well since we have had numerous problems with users
accidentally deleting stuff and needing it restored.  

Also do most of you utilize the Open File option in veritas as you may have
users in email while it is being backed up?

I just wanted to get an idea of what type of backup strategy is used by
others.

Thanks, 

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RE: Outlook web access

[John Allhiser]

I will assume that it is rellay hard to connect at this moment.

Enjoy the weekend!  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook web access


Define really hard.  Is is the same interval every time?  How do you get
it back to letting you connect -- rebooting?

Are you running DNS?  WINS?  LMHOSTS?  How is the OWA server set up?  Is
there a seperate exchange server?

What's the versions?  They are the same version, right?

Paper or plastic?  Demoblican or Republicrat?  Lefty or rightly?

Drew (MOS)

KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html
Read my Column on OUTLOOKEXCHANGE.COM:
http://www.outlookexchange.com/articles/drewnicholson/default.asp
Pics of Max are BACK!  http://www.drewncapris.net

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mahesh
Bharatsingh
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook web access


Hello

I have an owa server running on my network. It runs just fine for an few
days, after that it becomes really hard to connect to it.
The message my clients receive is: Failed to connect to the microsoft
exchange server servername.

I have tried everything to prevent this from happening, but failed at every
attempt.

If anyone has suggestions or ideas, they're welcome.

Thanks in advance,

Mahesh Bharatsingh

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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

[John Allhiser]

The way I roll dice, I'd end up as a retarded Orc with a lisp.
Oops! That's not nice...

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer  
Business Men's Assurance

-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: User Friendly Exchange List


I want to be a wizard. An Exchange Wizard!


Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



The elders? How about a game of DD anyone?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Josefowski, Larry
Sent: August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.


-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of this
group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about the
abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same for
us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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