date:20020506


1) It is not recommended to put the full-blown Outlook client on the
server.  A MAPI client API exists on the server in the form of
mapi32.dll.

2) What you are attempting is known as 'brick level backups', which is
seldom recommended as a feasible method of Exchange backups.  It is
flawed on many levels and doesn't replace the full online backups
required for a full disaster recovery to point of failure for your
exchange deployment.

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm

William

-Original Message-
From: James Lockley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec


I recall this being discussed a little while ago but cannot pull it out
of the archives.

I have Exch 5.5 and am backing it up with Backup Exec 8.5.  I cannot
connect to backup individual mailboxes because there is no MAPI client
on the server.  Any information I can find on it says to install
Outlook. Somewhere on this list I saw that this is not a good idea, if
so, what is the alternative.

James.





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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Wayne Hanks




I'm glad someone has got the "Brick-Level Backups =BAD" out of 
the way quickly ;).  I suggest you also look at the disaster recovery 
papers at Microsoft which mention recovering from full backups but never from 
brick level backups. (Watch for line wraps)http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/support/chapt09.asp?frame=truehttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/support/edrv3p1.asp?frame=truehttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/support/edrv3p2.asp?frame=true-Original 
Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Monday, 6 May 2002 15:31To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec1) It is not recommended to put the 
full-blown Outlook client on theserver.  A MAPI client API exists on 
the server in the form ofmapi32.dll.2) What you are attempting is 
known as 'brick level backups', which isseldom recommended as a feasible 
method of Exchange backups.  It isflawed on many levels and doesn't 
replace the full online backupsrequired for a full disaster recovery to 
point of failure for yourexchange deployment.http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htmWilliam-Original 
Message-From: James Lockley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Monday, May 06, 2002 12:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: backup 
mailboxes with Backup ExecI recall this being discussed a little 
while ago but cannot pull it outof the archives.I have Exch 5.5 and 
am backing it up with Backup Exec 8.5.  I cannotconnect to backup 
individual mailboxes because there is no MAPI clienton the server.  Any 
information I can find on it says to installOutlook. Somewhere on this list 
I saw that this is not a good idea, ifso, what is the 
alternative.James.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: It's Friday!!

2002-05-06 Thread Kent, Larry SYNETICS


Kelly:

What ever happened to your Website and "What is Kelly wewaring today?"

L

-Original Message-
From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


DOH!!

-Original Message-
From: Paul Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


not too fast, kelly is a unisex name ;)

-Original Message-
From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:43 PM
Posted To: Exchange 2000 Server
Conversation: It's Friday!!
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


Man if that were true... this list would rock s much more.

So, are you cute.  ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!



Exchange list as a dating forum?  Fix your server *and* find your mate?


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-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!

A/S/L??? Got a pic???

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


26, I  turn 27 in a month.

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Has anyone noticed that most of the responses are from the 20
somethings?
lol


-Original Message-
From: TWU-Durham, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 20022:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


Ripe age of 22 J


-Original Message-
From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 20022:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


i just turned 24

-Original Message-
From: Paul Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 200214:26
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!

i just turned 22 haha ;)

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Friday, May 03, 200211:21 AM
Posted To: Exchange 2000 Server
Conversation: It's Friday!!
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!

Man how old are you guys???


Lol


My daughter makes me feel old, but YOU guys keep me young!


-Original Message-
From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 200212:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


Hey Martin congrats, My two girls have grown and moved on but keep
coming
back with grandkids. Enjoy it really do

RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec






>I'm glad someone has got the "Brick-Level Backups =BAD" out of the way quickly ;).  I suggest you also look at the disaster 

>recovery papers at Microsoft which mention recovering from full backups but never from brick level backups. (Watch for line 

>wraps)


What most of these fail to take into account is that brick-level backups are usually *not* done for DR recovery reasons; they're done for individual recovery reasons. In a DR recovery, you want to get back everything. The idea behind a brick-level backup is to be able to get back an individual's lost mail (usually due to either corruption or stupidity on the part of the user). What the backup operator wants is the equivalent ability to be able to restore 1 file or directory, for 1 specific user (in this case, one mailbox, or contents of a mail folder).

So that when the CEO wants her individual mail she deleted to come back from the dead, you can get back just that, rather make her wait while you do a whole restore of the IS, and then (I presume) an ExMerge of her mailbox, and a re-import into the production server.



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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec





> I have Exch 5.5 and am backing it up with Backup Exec 8.5.  I 
> cannot connect to backup individual mailboxes because there is no MAPI client on the
> server.  Any information I can find on it says to install Outlook.
> Somewhere on this list I saw that this is not a good idea, if 
> so, what is the alternative.


BE requires Outlook to properly backup an Exchange server, I believe, so if you're not going to put Outlook on the server that holds the BE engine, you're not going to be using BE.

Outlook is not required on the Exchange server in order for BE to back it up, but is required on the server that runs the full BE program. Hopefully, they are not the same machine. The Exchange server needs the BE for Exchange Agent.


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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message



 
Regarding the BLB's, you still have to justify the cost 
of doing that with the added expense of backup tape and server performance 
degradation (during the long and arduous backup process).  

 
Aside 
from that, providing this service also becomes assumed by the user.  "Oh no 
worries.  Michael will get my email whenever I do something 
silly."
 
Does 
BE allow brick level of only specific mailboxes or does it require the entire 
store?  You can also run exmerge, scripted, WITHOUT the need of an Outlook 
client, and pull pst's of those mailboxes deemed most important as a brick level 
backup alternative.
 
Or 
just follow:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm
 
:o)
 
William

  
  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  5:20 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  >I'm glad someone has got the "Brick-Level Backups =BAD" 
  out of the way quickly ;).  I suggest you also look at the disaster 
  
  >recovery papers at Microsoft which mention recovering from 
  full backups but never from brick level backups. (Watch for line 
  >wraps) 
  What most of these fail to take into account is that 
  brick-level backups are usually *not* done for DR recovery reasons; they're 
  done for individual recovery reasons. In a DR recovery, you want to get back 
  everything. The idea behind a brick-level backup is to be able to get back an 
  individual's lost mail (usually due to either corruption or stupidity on the 
  part of the user). What the backup operator wants is the equivalent ability to 
  be able to restore 1 file or directory, for 1 specific user (in this case, one 
  mailbox, or contents of a mail folder).
  So that when the CEO wants her individual mail she deleted to 
  come back from the dead, you can get back just that, rather make her wait 
  while you do a whole restore of the IS, and then (I presume) an ExMerge of her 
  mailbox, and a re-import into the production server.List 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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Deny Domain Admins Access to E2K Mailboxes

2002-05-06 Thread Hans Willi Kremer


Usually domain admins have a deny as acl right for send as an receive as
regarding the mailboxes of other users. Therfor they can't read messages
in a users mailbox.
But: the same domain admins are able to change these acl.

how can i prevent everybody (that means all admins) from viewing the mails
in the mailbox after changing the default deny for send as and receive
as

Hans ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec





>Regarding the BLB's, you still have to justify the cost of doing that with the added expense of backup tape and server 

>performance degradation (during the long and arduous backup process).  


We do a full backup of all systems every night, so extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial.


>Aside from that, providing this service also becomes assumed by the user.  "Oh no worries.  Michael will get my email 
>whenever I do something silly."


Of course. Never had a job where it was anything but, on any subject (not just recovering email).


>Does BE allow brick level of only specific mailboxes or does it require the entire store?  


I think so, because I know I do not have to choose "Individual mailbox backup", but can still choose "Information Store Backup". Altho that doesn't get me what I want - backup of important mail and info (schedules, contacts, etc).

>You can also run exmerge, scripted, WITHOUT the need of an Outlook client, and pull pst's of those mailboxes deemed most 

>important as a brick level backup alternative.


If you have the space on your backup media for all users, why exclude some? In actuality, some users are more important than others, obviously.

>Or just follow:
>http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm



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RE: 5.5 & Ex2K Differences

2002-05-06 Thread Mike Hoffman

Title: Message

I was
on an Hands-on training day on Exchange on Friday and the instructor stated that
the changes from 5.5 to 2000 were as different as the changes from 4 (I think)
to 5. He also pointed out that you must have Active Directory to run Exchange
2000. Integrating Exchange with active directory from the start is probably a
lot easier than deploying AD and then repeating the setup for each user under
exchange.
Microsoft are currently running 100% subsidised (i.e. free) training days
accross the uk. Portal and Collaboration course is all about exchange 2000 and
SharePoint Server and is a good introduction to Exchange
2000.
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/skills/handsonlabs/scenario/
Plus
you will probably be able to persuade the trainer to answer any specific
questions that you have.
Hope
this helps
Mike
Hoffman

-Original Message-From: Chris Norris
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 April 2002
12:38To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 5.5 &
Ex2K Differences
Sorry, just that your bosses attitude hit a nerve. You might tell
him that I have just completed an upgrade to E2k without prior training and
all of the problems I had were the result of things I did not know...
One of them even resulted in a cal to PSS (luckily at the per incident charge
not the hourly rate) because it was not documented anywhere that I could find,
but it was something that is included in the training...

-Original Message-From: Mike Channon
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 6:20
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 5.5 &
Ex2K Differences
I agree with your suggestion Chris, but it will not
wash with him. This will be part of a bigger migration as I have already
upgraded all clients to Win2K Pro, My test environment has also been
upgraded to Win2K Servers with no AD yet, my critical servers are next and
he want them all Win2K plus the Exchange server.

-Original Message-From: Chris Norris
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002
11:18 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 5.5
& Ex2K Differences
If there is no difference then you should tell him there is no need
to upgrade.

-Original Message-From: Mike Channon
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002
6:06 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 5.5
& Ex2K Differences
Hi People,
I am having to justify to the big boss man why he needs to fund a
training course on Exchange 2000. Because I
already administer our 5.5 Exchange server he says he needs
justification to spend the money because he does not see any difference
between the two versions, he says " It's the same product been
renamed".
Can any one tell me in lay terms what are the
fundamental differences between the two versions, I am open to any
suggestions as what to tell him why it should be me who attend the
course.

Regards
Mike Channon MCSE, CAN, CCSA Senior Server Engineer, Systems and
Infrastructure Support . Logica UK
(Automotive)

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RE: Removing Unknown SMTP/ESMTP Message Headers/Keywords

2002-05-06 Thread Ely, Don

Title: Message



30G  Get a new vendor!  I bought my unrestricted for under 
10k.

  
  -Original Message-From: Wayne Hanks 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 9:37 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Removing 
  Unknown SMTP/ESMTP Message Headers/Keywords
  I 
  know Don, I have one of those POS Watchguards as well and would dearly love to 
  put a PIX in place but with the exchange rate and the downturn in the Broking 
  business it is very difficult to convince managment that laying out $30 G for 
  a firewall is a Very Good Idea.  You Know what I 
  mean: " you already have one, why do you want another 
  one?" .   I just thought you'd appreciate another 
  excuse to vent your spleen ;-)
   
  
-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 
23:29To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Removing 
Unknown SMTP/ESMTP Message Headers/Keywords
While the PIX has some of its own problems, I am fully aware of them 
and know how to get around them.  I call it "no fixup protocol smtp", 
that resolves all email related problems on the PIX.
 
Linux???  Puh-lease!  What do you think this piece of sheit 
WG is based upon?  As for how "secure" it isn't...  Shall I hack 
it now or later?
 
D

  
  -Original Message-From: Wayne Hanks 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 
  10:08 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Removing Unknown SMTP/ESMTP Message Headers/Keywords
  so I take you were not happy with your Watchguard box ;)  
  Maybe you should look at setting up a Linux firewall.  Then you can 
  modify it to your heart's content.
  I understand that PIX has it's own set of idiosyncrasies when 
  related to email.    
  
-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 
3:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Removing Unknown SMTP/ESMTP Message 
Headers/Keywords
I have a theory on Watchguard firewalls.  They SUCK!  
SUCK!  SUCK!!  SUCK I say!  SUCK!
 
I have gone to using the Filtered SMTP service for now instead of 
the Proxied SMTP service.  You will notice other email problems 
down the road as well when using the SMTP proxy.  
Such as other internet providers being unable to send you mail.  
This is because the stupid a$$ SMTP proxy transforms the mail from 8bit 
to 7bit among other things.
 
My new PIX's have arrived and I can't wait to get them into 
production and toss these POS Red boxes in the 
trash.
 
Just my $.02 mind you, but the WG FW SUCKS!!!
 
D

  
  -Original Message-From: Jonathan 
  Schober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:43 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Removing Unknown SMTP/ESMTP Message 
  Headers/Keywords
   
  We use a watchguard firewall 
  which, by default, removes all unkown SMTP headers and ESMTP 
  keywords. The following is a list of 41 headers and 
  keywords that have been rejected by our firewall during the 
  past week.  I am considering adding some of these to the 
  firewall's list of known headers/keywords.  I'm especially interested in the 
  security ramifications of adding these (we use Exchange 2000).  
  Does anyone know of a specific reason To/Not To add 
  these?
   
  
  



  Status
  Keyword/Header
  Number of Times 
Rejected


  removing unknown or denied header
  List-Unsubscribe
  481

  removing unknown or denied header
  Received
  164

  removing unknown or denied header
  content-class
  139

  removing unknown or denied header
  Thread-Index
  138

  removing unknown or denied header
  Thread-Topic
  135

  removing unknown or denied header
  X-MS-TNEF-Correlator
  63

  removing unknown or denied header
  X-MS-Has-Attach
  63

  removing unknown or denied header
  X-MimeOLE
  63

  removing unknown or denied header
  Reporting-MTA
  57

  removing unknown or denied header
  Arrival-Date
  57

  removing unknown or denied header

RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message



>>We do a full backup of all systems 
every night, so extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 

 
At my 
last job, I did full backups each night as well.  extra tape costs are 
immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 servers running 10-60GB stores.  
Not immaterial at all.
 
>>Of course. Never had a job where 
it was anything but, on any subject (not just recovering email). 

 
Well, 
that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time going forward, not backwards.  
A little user education goes a long way.
 
>>If you have the space on your 
backup media for all users, why exclude some? 
 
Mostly 
because I consider it a waste of resources and not the best way to administer 
Exchange in terms of backup and recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an 
alternative.  
 
I 
concede some might want to have this backup method.  I find it a waste of 
resources mostly.  Having to backup the store multiple times.  The 
size of the BLB backup is significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd 
be running backups for hours for almost no gain.  No 
thanks.
 
Glad it works for 
you, though.
 
William
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  5:57 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  >Regarding the BLB's, you still have to justify the cost of 
  doing that with the added expense of backup tape and server 
  >performance degradation (during the long and arduous 
  backup process).  
  We do a full backup of all systems every night, so extra tape 
  costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 
  >Aside from that, providing this service also becomes 
  assumed by the user.  "Oh no worries.  Michael will get my email 
  >whenever I do something silly." 
  Of course. Never had a job where it was anything but, on any 
  subject (not just recovering email). 
  >Does BE allow brick level of only specific mailboxes or 
  does it require the entire store?  
  I think so, because I know I do not have to choose "Individual 
  mailbox backup", but can still choose "Information Store Backup". Altho that 
  doesn't get me what I want - backup of important mail and info (schedules, 
  contacts, etc).
  >You can also run exmerge, scripted, WITHOUT the need of an 
  Outlook client, and pull pst's of those mailboxes deemed most 
  >important as a brick level backup alternative. 
  If you have the space on your backup media for all users, why 
  exclude some? In actuality, some users are more important than others, 
  obviously.
  >Or just follow: >http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm 
  List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: RE : It's Friday!!

Title: RE: It's Friday!!









I think we have a winner.

 

You are 63 with a 6 year old? Gods help
you

 

-Original Message-
From: Gérard Dumazet
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:40
AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE : It's Friday!!

 

I am 63, got 6
children, the oldest 38 and the last 6

Is there
oldest than me ?

 

 

-Message d'origine-
De : Precht, David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Envoyé : vendredi 3 mai 2002
23:57
À : MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Objet : RE: It's Friday!!

 

Nice 

 

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Sent: Friday, May
03, 2002 16:31 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

 

26, I  turn 27 in a month. 

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Network
Administrator 
Sybari Software 
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lol 

 

-Original Message- 
From: TWU-Durham,
Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May
03, 20022:47 PM 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

 

Ripe age of 22 J 

 

-Original Message- 
From: Precht, David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May
03, 20022:41 PM 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

 

i just turned 24 

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May
03, 200214:26 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

i just turned 22 haha ;) 

-Original Message- 
From: Matthew
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday,
May 03, 200211:21 AM 
Posted To: Exchange
2000 Server 
Conversation: It's
Friday!! 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

Man how old are you guys??? 

 

Lol 

 

My daughter makes me feel old, but YOU guys
keep me young! 

 

-Original Message- 
From: Eldridge, Dave
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May
03, 200212:57 PM 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

 

Hey Martin congrats, My two girls have grown
and moved on but keep coming 
back with grandkids.
Enjoy it really does go quick. I will have a beer in 
Vegas next for you. 

 

dave 

-Original Message- 
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May
03, 200211:17 AM 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

Very Nice! You be the MAN! Cheerish the
moments as they seem to go by so 
fast. 

MJ 

3 sons, all gone. 

-Original Message - 
From: Martin
Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May
03, 20026:49 AM 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

http://216.39.101.68/martin/index.htm 

-Original Message- 
From: Matthew
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May
03, 20026:27 AM 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

I don't get it 

 

-Original Message- 
From: Martin
Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May
03, 2002 8:23 AM 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's
Friday!! 

 

I have a baby 

-Original Message- 
From: Abercrombie,
Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May
03, 2002 5:55 AM 
To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues 
Subject: It's
Friday!! 

Whoo Hoo, it's Friday, I have lots of Krispy
Kreme doughnuts (including a 
few crullers), Kona
Special Blend coffee, and I have Monday off.  Three day 
weekend, yippee! 

It's going to be a GOOD day!! 

Sherry Abercrombie

Data Center
Admin

RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec





>>We do a full backup of all systems every night, so extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 


>At my last job, I did full backups each night as well.  extra tape costs are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 servers 

>running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at all.


You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB mailboxes to the nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I don't need to purchase extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for Exchange vs other LAN backup needs.

>>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything but, on any subject (not just recovering email). 


>Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time going forward, not backwards.  A little user education goes a long way.


It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the people I have .. :-)


>>If you have the space on your backup media for all users, why exclude some? 


>Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources and not the best way to administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
>recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an alternative.  


I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is a waste of resources. Wish I could. :-)


>I concede some might want to have this backup method.  I find it a waste of resources mostly.  Having to backup the store 

>multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd be running backups for 

>hours for almost no gain.  No thanks.


>Glad it works for you, though.


Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, but I know that that was one of the main questions I was asked, when seeking to purchase a backup solution - can we restore someone's email if we had to? Not everyone's - that's a DR issue. Like any business, they wanted to be able to do both. One day I'll test it, with my "Test" email account, and see how it works.


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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message



Most 
businesses that deploy Exchange do not implement a brick-level backup 
solution.
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  6:47 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  >>We do a full backup of all systems every night, so 
  extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 
  >At my last job, I did full backups each night as 
  well.  extra tape costs are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 
  servers 
  >running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at 
  all. 
  You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB 
  mailboxes to the nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I don't 
  need to purchase extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for Exchange vs 
  other LAN backup needs.
  >>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything but, 
  on any subject (not just recovering email). 
  >Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time going 
  forward, not backwards.  A little user education goes a long way. 
  
  It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the people 
  I have .. :-) 
  >>If you have the space on your backup media for all 
  users, why exclude some? 
  >Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources and not 
  the best way to administer Exchange in terms of backup and >recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an alternative.  
  
  I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is a 
  waste of resources. Wish I could. :-) 
  >I concede some might want to have this backup 
  method.  I find it a waste of resources mostly.  Having to backup 
  the store 
  >multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is 
  significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd be running backups for 
  
  >hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 
  >Glad it works for you, though. 
  Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, but I 
  know that that was one of the main questions I was asked, when seeking to 
  purchase a backup solution - can we restore someone's email if we had to? Not 
  everyone's - that's a DR issue. Like any business, they wanted to be able to 
  do both. One day I'll test it, with my "Test" email account, and see how it 
  works.List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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Using Offline Folder

2002-05-06 Thread ALEX CHAN


Hi, All

I am using Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 2000.
I already set the filter to restrict the message size for Notebook user, but
how they know what email messages are being restricted. Any log will show
the email header information.

Best Regards,

Alex Chan
MIS Dept.


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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Clark, Steve


Caveat - unless they don't understand. I had BLB's for a while (hi, my name
is Steve and I'm a recovering BLB administrator).

 

I feel much better now.

 

Steve Clark 
Clark Systems Support, LLC 
AVIEN Charter Member 
"Who's watching your network?" 
www.clarksupport.com 
  301-610-9584 voice 
  240-465-0323 Efax 

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

 

Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not implement a brick-level backup
solution.

 

-Original Message-
From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

>>We do a full backup of all systems every night, so extra tape costs by
doing BLBs are immaterial. 

>At my last job, I did full backups each night as well.  extra tape costs
are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 servers 

>running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at all. 

You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB mailboxes to the
nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I don't need to purchase
extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for Exchange vs other LAN backup
needs.

>>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything but, on any subject (not
just recovering email). 

>Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time going forward, not backwards.
A little user education goes a long way. 

It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the people I have .. :-) 

>>If you have the space on your backup media for all users, why exclude
some? 

>Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources and not the best way to
administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
>recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an alternative.  

I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is a waste of
resources. Wish I could. :-) 

>I concede some might want to have this backup method.  I find it a waste of
resources mostly.  Having to backup the store 

>multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is significantly greater than
the store backup.  I'd be running backups for 

>hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 

>Glad it works for you, though. 

Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, but I know that that
was one of the main questions I was asked, when seeking to purchase a backup
solution - can we restore someone's email if we had to? Not everyone's -
that's a DR issue. Like any business, they wanted to be able to do both. One
day I'll test it, with my "Test" email account, and see how it works.

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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Kelly Leavitt

Title: Message



As I 
put on my asbestos underwear (and not that I do BLBs)
 
Do you 
have actual numbers to support this claim? Where can I see a copy of the 
supporting documentation?
 
Thanks,
Kelly

  -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:54 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  Most 
  businesses that deploy Exchange do not implement a brick-level backup 
  solution.
   
  

-Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
6:47 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
>>We do a full backup of all systems every night, so 
extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 
>At my last job, I did full backups each night as 
well.  extra tape costs are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 
servers 
>running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at 
all. 
You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB 
mailboxes to the nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I don't 
need to purchase extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for Exchange vs 
other LAN backup needs.
>>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything 
but, on any subject (not just recovering email). 
>Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time going 
forward, not backwards.  A little user education goes a long 
way. 
It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the 
people I have .. :-) 
>>If you have the space on your backup media for all 
users, why exclude some? 
>Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources and 
not the best way to administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
>recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an 
alternative.  
I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is a 
waste of resources. Wish I could. :-) 
>I concede some might want to have this backup 
method.  I find it a waste of resources mostly.  Having to backup 
the store 
>multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is 
significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd be running backups 
for 
>hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 
>Glad it works for you, though. 
Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, but I 
know that that was one of the main questions I was asked, when seeking to 
purchase a backup solution - can we restore someone's email if we had to? 
Not everyone's - that's a DR issue. Like any business, they wanted to be 
able to do both. One day I'll test it, with my "Test" email account, and see 
how it works.List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec





>Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not implement a brick-level backup solution.


No, but most business expect that they can retrieve the contents of just one (or several) mailboxes, if necessary. That either means BLBs, or some sort of ExMerge, or having a standby Exchange server that you can restore the whole IS to, and then extract out just what you need. Not everyone can afford a 2nd server-level machine just sitting around, just in case. I work for a small business - 75 users. We recycle our hardware down to other users - I had to scramble a bit to get a spave P2-266 to keep around for testing. Wish I had the resources for a decent lab.:-)


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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Jim Holmgren


 HI STEVE!

I too am a recovering BLB admin.  I've been BLB free for almost a whole year
now.  
Its so nice to receive the "Exchange Backup - Successful" emails every
morning from Backup Exec.  :)


-Jim



-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec


Caveat - unless they don't understand. I had BLB's for a while (hi, my name
is Steve and I'm a recovering BLB administrator).

 

I feel much better now.

 

Steve Clark 
Clark Systems Support, LLC 
AVIEN Charter Member 
"Who's watching your network?" 
www.clarksupport.com 
  301-610-9584 voice 
  240-465-0323 Efax 

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

 

Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not implement a brick-level backup
solution.

 

-Original Message-
From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

>>We do a full backup of all systems every night, so extra tape costs by
doing BLBs are immaterial. 

>At my last job, I did full backups each night as well.  extra tape costs
are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 servers 

>running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at all. 

You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB mailboxes to the
nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I don't need to purchase
extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for Exchange vs other LAN backup
needs.

>>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything but, on any subject (not
just recovering email). 

>Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time going forward, not backwards.
A little user education goes a long way. 

It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the people I have .. :-) 

>>If you have the space on your backup media for all users, why exclude
some? 

>Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources and not the best way to
administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
>recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an alternative.  

I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is a waste of
resources. Wish I could. :-) 

>I concede some might want to have this backup method.  I find it a waste of
resources mostly.  Having to backup the store 

>multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is significantly greater than
the store backup.  I'd be running backups for 

>hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 

>Glad it works for you, though. 

Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, but I know that that
was one of the main questions I was asked, when seeking to purchase a backup
solution - can we restore someone's email if we had to? Not everyone's -
that's a DR issue. Like any business, they wanted to be able to do both. One
day I'll test it, with my "Test" email account, and see how it works.

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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Clark, Steve


Isn't it though!

And when userX calls with a I deleted a message, I can tell them how to
recover right then as opposed to the h311 and expense of a restore.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
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-Original Message-
From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

 HI STEVE!

I too am a recovering BLB admin.  I've been BLB free for almost a whole year
now.  
Its so nice to receive the "Exchange Backup - Successful" emails every
morning from Backup Exec.  :)


-Jim



-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec


Caveat - unless they don't understand. I had BLB's for a while (hi, my name
is Steve and I'm a recovering BLB administrator).

 

I feel much better now.

 

Steve Clark 
Clark Systems Support, LLC 
AVIEN Charter Member 
"Who's watching your network?" 
www.clarksupport.com 
  301-610-9584 voice 
  240-465-0323 Efax 

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

 

Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not implement a brick-level backup
solution.

 

-Original Message-
From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

>>We do a full backup of all systems every night, so extra tape costs by
doing BLBs are immaterial. 

>At my last job, I did full backups each night as well.  extra tape costs
are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 servers 

>running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at all. 

You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB mailboxes to the
nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I don't need to purchase
extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for Exchange vs other LAN backup
needs.

>>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything but, on any subject (not
just recovering email). 

>Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time going forward, not backwards.
A little user education goes a long way. 

It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the people I have .. :-) 

>>If you have the space on your backup media for all users, why exclude
some? 

>Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources and not the best way to
administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
>recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an alternative.  

I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is a waste of
resources. Wish I could. :-) 

>I concede some might want to have this backup method.  I find it a waste of
resources mostly.  Having to backup the store 

>multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is significantly greater than
the store backup.  I'd be running backups for 

>hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 

>Glad it works for you, though. 

Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, but I know that that
was one of the main questions I was asked, when seeking to purchase a backup
solution - can we restore someone's email if we had to? Not everyone's -
that's a DR issue. Like any business, they wanted to be able to do both. One
day I'll test it, with my "Test" email account, and see how it works.

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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec





> From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


> I too am a recovering BLB admin.  I've been BLB free for 
> almost a whole year now.  
> Its so nice to receive the "Exchange Backup - Successful" emails every
> morning from Backup Exec.  :)


So what do you use BE for, then? Just the IS? What do you do if you need to restore a mailbox's contents - what nightly procedure do you use to prepare for that?

Just curious, and willing to be convinced otherwise.



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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Ray Zorz

Title: Message



And 
yet, the one thing that most of us wish worked better was single mailbox 
restore.  The DR procedure is a workaround for the inability to 
manage Exchange the way we'd rather manage it. 

  -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:54 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  Most 
  businesses that deploy Exchange do not implement a brick-level backup 
  solution.
   
  

-Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
6:47 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
>>We do a full backup of all systems every night, so 
extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 
>At my last job, I did full backups each night as 
well.  extra tape costs are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 
servers 
>running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at 
all. 
You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB 
mailboxes to the nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I don't 
need to purchase extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for Exchange vs 
other LAN backup needs.
>>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything 
but, on any subject (not just recovering email). 
>Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time going 
forward, not backwards.  A little user education goes a long 
way. 
It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the 
people I have .. :-) 
>>If you have the space on your backup media for all 
users, why exclude some? 
>Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources and 
not the best way to administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
>recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an 
alternative.  
I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is a 
waste of resources. Wish I could. :-) 
>I concede some might want to have this backup 
method.  I find it a waste of resources mostly.  Having to backup 
the store 
>multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is 
significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd be running backups 
for 
>hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 
>Glad it works for you, though. 
Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, but I 
know that that was one of the main questions I was asked, when seeking to 
purchase a backup solution - can we restore someone's email if we had to? 
Not everyone's - that's a DR issue. Like any business, they wanted to be 
able to do both. One day I'll test it, with my "Test" email account, and see 
how it works.List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message



It is 
solely from experience with the product for 5 years, with newsgroup and peer 
forum participation for 4 years and performing disaster recoveries and 
administrative duties for various, mostly small clients who thought they were 
doing backups correctly.
 
No, I 
don't have specific numbers.
 
William
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Kelly Leavitt 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:54 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  As I 
  put on my asbestos underwear (and not that I do BLBs)
   
  Do 
  you have actual numbers to support this claim? Where can I see a copy of the 
  supporting documentation?
   
  Thanks,
  Kelly
  
-Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:54 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not 
implement a brick-level backup solution.
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Leone, 
  Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 
  06, 2002 6:47 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
  >>We do a full backup of all systems every night, so 
  extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 
  >At my last job, I did full backups each night as 
  well.  extra tape costs are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 
  servers 
  >running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at 
  all. 
  You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB 
  mailboxes to the nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I don't 
  need to purchase extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for Exchange vs 
  other LAN backup needs.
  >>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything 
  but, on any subject (not just recovering email). 
  >Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time 
  going forward, not backwards.  A little user education goes a long 
  way. 
  It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the 
  people I have .. :-) 
  >>If you have the space on your backup media for all 
  users, why exclude some? 
  >Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources and 
  not the best way to administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
  >recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an 
  alternative.  
  I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is a 
  waste of resources. Wish I could. :-) 
  >I concede some might want to have this backup 
  method.  I find it a waste of resources mostly.  Having to 
  backup the store 
  >multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is 
  significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd be running backups 
  for 
  >hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 
  >Glad it works for you, though. 
  Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, but 
  I know that that was one of the main questions I was asked, when seeking 
  to purchase a backup solution - can we restore someone's email if we had 
  to? Not everyone's - that's a DR issue. Like any business, they wanted to 
  be able to do both. One day I'll test it, with my "Test" email account, 
  and see how it works.List Charter and FAQ 
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  Charter and FAQ 
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Address Book Views

2002-05-06 Thread Eric Brouwer


Hello!

Exchange 5.5 SP 4 on NT 4.0 SP 6a

When I create Address Book Views, are they stored like recipient containers?
In other words, where would I find them in Exchange Admin once I create
them?

Also, my clients use Outlook 2000.  Would the ADV just show up in their pick
list of address books?  Would I have to do anything to publish it other than
create the view?

Eric

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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Jim Holmgren

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec



I do a 
full backup of the information stores every night as part of the backup 
jobs on my tape library.  
I have 
a workstation-class machine that is sitting on a shelf pre-configured with 
Exchange and Win2K server, just in case I ever need to restore a mailbox.  

I also 
have deleted item retention turned on (very important).  

 
In the 
year that I've been using this method, I've had one mailbox to restore from a 
tape.  It worked like a charm.  I also wrote step-by-step instructions 
and have my "lackey" do test restores about once every 30-60 days just to be 
certain my backups are good.  The pain of dealing with BLBs vs. the few 
hours it takes about 1-2x per year to restore a mailbox make it a no-brainer to 
me.
 
I 
would go back to using BLBs if:  
1) 
They didn't waste tape by being redundant with the IS backup (not likely to 
happen). 
2) If they were as reliable as backing up the IS.  I can't 
recall a single instance where my BLBs did not "fail" because of an alleged 
corrupt message.
 
-Jim
 

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We bring innovation to interactive 
communication. Advertising.com -- 
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  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  10:05 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  > From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  
  > I too am a recovering BLB admin.  I've been BLB free 
  for > almost a whole year now.  
  > Its so nice to receive the "Exchange Backup - 
  Successful" emails every > morning from Backup 
  Exec.  :) 
  So what do you use BE for, then? Just the IS? What do you do 
  if you need to restore a mailbox's contents - what nightly procedure do you 
  use to prepare for that?
  Just curious, and willing to be convinced otherwise. 
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RE: It's Friday!!


BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... you just said "rave party".

I've been a dj and producer of electronic music for 7 years.  

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Hanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 11:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


I was just saying that I finally realise why so many parents arrive at the
office on a Monday looking like they just spent the weekend at a rave party
for 48 hours whilst trying to juggle eggs. :) Some parents do it with style,
others just lose it.
  

-Original Message-
From: Bart Southworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 6 May 2002 10:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: It's Friday!!


40.

7, 5, 2.5

Get over it.  ;-)


- Original Message -
From: "Wayne Hanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


> 38 with 2 boys, 3 and 8months  (try surviving for 3 years with very
limited
> sleep, It makes you realise why people can go postal over the dummest
> things:-)  )
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis Atherton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2002 5:32
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
> I am 53, and have 2 boys 23 and 20, and a 19 year old daughter.
>
> The 23 year old got his Netware Admin Cert in HS.
>
> But I sure feel older than 53..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:07 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
> 48
> and I'll see your 4 + 6 year old and raise you two daughters 15 + 18 and
an
> 11 year old son.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:57 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
> How about 50 with a 4 and 6 year old boy.
>
>
> Stefan Jafs
> Amico Corporation
> Tel: 1-877-GO-AMICO
>   www.amico.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 16:49
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
> Thank God, somebody on here is older than me!
>
> 44  (with a 16 and a 2 yr old boy)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:37 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
> Byte me!
>
> 46
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:33 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
> I am so freaking old I'm thinking about arguing for early acceptance for
> Kroger's Seniors discount...
>
> 26
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:49 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
>
> Has anyone noticed that most of the responses are from the 20 somethings?
> lol
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: TWU-Durham, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:47 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
>
> Ripe age of 22 :-)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:41 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
>
> i just turned 24
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 14:26
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
> i just turned 22 haha ;)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:21 AM
> Posted To: Exchange 2000 Server
> Conversation: It's Friday!!
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
> Man how old are you guys???
>
>
>
> Lol
>
>
>
> My daughter makes me feel old, but YOU guys keep me young!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:57 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
>
> Hey Martin congrats, My two girls have grown and moved on but keep coming
> back with grandkids. Enjoy it really does go quick. I will have a beer in
> Vegas next for you.
>
>
>
> dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:17 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
> Very Nice! You be the MAN! Cheerish the moments as they seem to go by so
> fast.
>
> MJ
>
> 3 sons, all gone.
>
> -Original Message -
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:49 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
> http://216.39.101.68/martin/index.htm
>

Events...are straying?









I noticed the other day that a lot of Exchange Events are
going to an old PDC's event logs (i.e. events 9318, 179,180). I looked in
Exch Admin and do not see why it would point there. I am about to take this old
machine offline, so I would like that path to change. Actually, I would like to
know why they are not going into Exchange's event logs exclusively. TIA

 

 




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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec


*yawns*

Man maybe I just missed it in all the other responses, but in response to:

>So that when the CEO wants her individual mail she deleted to come back from the 
>dead, you can get back just that, rather
>make her wait while you do a whole restore of the IS, and then (I presume) an ExMerge 
>of her mailbox, and a re-import into 
>the production server.

This is why I keep a nice big Deleted Items Retention time.  If it's been gone for 
30-60 days... chances are they're not gonna be looking for it any more.  If they fat 
finger a delete... you just go back in and recover it for them via the Recover Deleted 
Items option.  This has worked for us like a charm and saved me alot of headache, 
tape, time, and disk/storespace (BLB restores would kill Single Instance Storage).

Preston Jeffares
Network Engineer
Georgia Department of Motor Vehicle Safety
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message



>>Not everyone can afford a 2nd server-level 
machine just sitting around
 
Try www.kleenex.com.  For three years, 
my backup server for Exchange, 250 users, was a P133 
32MB RAM.  Actually, it still is for them.  I'm just not there 
anymore.  You can afford Exchange.  You can afford the backup 
application AND the exchange agent for it.  And the tape drive 
aparently.  What's a $200 beige box workstation to serve as a recovery 
box?
 
>>No, but most business expect that 
they can retrieve the contents of just one (or several) mailboxes, if 
necessary
 
Again:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm
 
I can 
retrieve a snigle mailbox as well.  Even with the 60GB store it was a few 
hours tops.
 
If you 
only have 75 users, then Exchange is probably not your only duty.  Your 
time is likely better spent not doing a restore of *any* kind.  Stop 
reading the marketing material.  You are familiar with Single Instance 
Storage, right?  BLB's are not 100% effective.  Lost 
attachments.  Corrupt messages.  Missing header information.  You 
did say you haven't performed a test restore right?
 
Let's 
try this.  When do you imagine you would need to recover a mailbox?  
When a user deletes something by accident?  He can use recover deleted 
items to retrieve it.  It's gone from there?  At what point does it 
become reasonable not to expect 'instant' mailbox recovery for a user?  3 
months?  A year?  It really should be rare that this is 
necessary.  Perhaps an admin accidentally deletes a mailbox.  
Well, this is the primary situation where we might like this granularity in 
Exchange5.5.  But, in Exchange2000, there is deleted mailbox retention as 
well.  
 
Now, I 
have accepted that one of the supposed costs of using the world's most 
popular messaging and collaboration application is that individual mailbox 
restores are not reasonable.  Some people may find that astonishing for a 
messaging application.   I don't enter into that acceptance 
blindly.   I imagine Oracle's new messaging product will not allow 
this functionality 100% either.  Such is the cost of backing up a database 
that doesn't really maintain 'mailboxes' in its structure.
 
William
 
Kevin, 
where is that silly top ten list that really needs 
improving?
 
 
 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  7:02 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  >Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not implement a 
  brick-level backup solution. 
  No, but most business expect that they can retrieve the 
  contents of just one (or several) mailboxes, if necessary. That either means 
  BLBs, or some sort of ExMerge, or having a standby Exchange server that you 
  can restore the whole IS to, and then extract out just what you need. Not 
  everyone can afford a 2nd server-level machine just sitting around, just in 
  case. I work for a small business - 75 users. We recycle our hardware down to 
  other users - I had to scramble a bit to get a spave P2-266 to keep around for 
  testing. Wish I had the resources for a decent lab.:-)List Charter 
  and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec





From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


>I do a full backup of the information stores every night as part of the backup jobs on my tape library.  
>I have a workstation-class machine that is sitting on a shelf pre-configured with Exchange and Win2K server, just in case I 

>ever need to restore a mailbox.  
>I also have deleted item retention turned on (very important).  


Where is this option?


>In the year that I've been using this method, I've had one mailbox to restore from a tape.  It worked like a charm.  I also 

>wrote step-by-step instructions and have my "lackey" do test restores about once every 30-60 days just to be certain my 

>backups are good.  The pain of dealing with BLBs vs. the few hours it takes about 1-2x per year to restore a mailbox make it 

>a no-brainer to me.


OK; I'll for not having to use my brain at work ...  ... could you share those instructions, perhaps? I presume they deal with restoring the IS to this "shelf" machine, and extracting the needed info from there?

>I would go back to using BLBs if:  
>1) They didn't waste tape by being redundant with the IS backup (not likely to happen). 
>2) If they were as reliable as backing up the IS.  I can't recall a single instance where my BLBs did not "fail" because of 

>an alleged corrupt message.


I've seen a few (not many) of those.



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RE: Events...are straying?

Title: Message



5.5 
and NT4?

  
  -Original Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  7:32 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Events...are 
  straying?
  
  I noticed the other day that a lot 
  of Exchange Events are going to an old PDC's event logs (i.e. events 9318, 
  179,180). I looked in Exch Admin and do not see why it would point there. I am 
  about to take this old machine offline, so I would like that path to change. 
  Actually, I would like to know why they are not going into Exchange's event 
  logs exclusively. TIA
   
   List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: Events...are straying?

Title: Message









Sorry, yes 5.5 SP4 NT4 SP6

 

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Events...are
straying?

 



5.5 and NT4?





-Original
Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Events...are straying?

I noticed the other day that a lot
of Exchange Events are going to an old PDC's event logs (i.e. events 9318,
179,180). I looked in Exch Admin and do not see why it would point there. I am
about to take this old machine offline, so I would like that path to change.
Actually, I would like to know why they are not going into Exchange's event
logs exclusively. TIA

 

 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message



You 
know, I used a few little email applications that were granular like that, but 
they didn't have the collaborative properties of an Exchange.  In some ways 
I have accepted this perceived limitation as a price for SIS and other 
collaborative properties Exchange offers.  Perhaps I am easy that 
way.
 
Please 
don't think it a defense of Microsoft, as I anticipate future high-end 
collaborative products to get more complicated and provide less granular option 
for restoring, regardless of platform.  I could be wrong. 

 
William

  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:07 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  And 
  yet, the one thing that most of us wish worked better was single mailbox 
  restore.  The DR procedure is a workaround for the inability to 
  manage Exchange the way we'd rather manage it. 
  
-Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:54 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not 
implement a brick-level backup solution.
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Leone, 
  Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 
  06, 2002 6:47 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
  >>We do a full backup of all systems every night, so 
  extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 
  >At my last job, I did full backups each night as 
  well.  extra tape costs are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 
  servers 
  >running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at 
  all. 
  You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB 
  mailboxes to the nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I don't 
  need to purchase extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for Exchange vs 
  other LAN backup needs.
  >>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything 
  but, on any subject (not just recovering email). 
  >Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time 
  going forward, not backwards.  A little user education goes a long 
  way. 
  It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the 
  people I have .. :-) 
  >>If you have the space on your backup media for all 
  users, why exclude some? 
  >Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources and 
  not the best way to administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
  >recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an 
  alternative.  
  I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is a 
  waste of resources. Wish I could. :-) 
  >I concede some might want to have this backup 
  method.  I find it a waste of resources mostly.  Having to 
  backup the store 
  >multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is 
  significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd be running backups 
  for 
  >hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 
  >Glad it works for you, though. 
  Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, but 
  I know that that was one of the main questions I was asked, when seeking 
  to purchase a backup solution - can we restore someone's email if we had 
  to? Not everyone's - that's a DR issue. Like any business, they wanted to 
  be able to do both. One day I'll test it, with my "Test" email account, 
  and see how it works.List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
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RE: Events...are straying?

Title: Message



Do you 
have any component of exchange installed on the PDC?  The admin program 
only perhaps?  Is this the application event log?

  
  -Original Message-From: Matthew 
  Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  7:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Events...are straying?
  
  Sorry, yes 5.5 SP4 
  NT4 SP6
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: William 
  Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:43 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Events...are straying?
   
  
  5.5 and 
  NT4?
  
-Original 
Message-From: Matthew 
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:32 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: 
Events...are straying?
I noticed the other day that a 
lot of Exchange Events are going to an old PDC's event logs (i.e. events 
9318, 179,180). I looked in Exch Admin and do not see why it would point 
there. I am about to take this old machine offline, so I would like that 
path to change. Actually, I would like to know why they are not going into 
Exchange's event logs exclusively. TIA
 
 
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Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  List 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Events...are straying?

Title: Message









You know what? I think that the old admins
had installed Exchange on the PDC. Most of the messages are 9318s, which have
to do with bind failures. NM, this is not referencing the current mail server.
It is coming offline, so I will just ignore them. Thanks for the heads up.

 

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Events...are
straying?

 



Do you have any component
of exchange installed on the PDC?  The admin program only perhaps? 
Is this the application event log?





-Original
Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Events...are
straying?

Sorry, yes 5.5 SP4 NT4
SP6

 

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Events...are
straying?

 



5.5 and
NT4?





-Original
Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Events...are straying?

I noticed the other day that a lot
of Exchange Events are going to an old PDC's event logs (i.e. events 9318,
179,180). I looked in Exch Admin and do not see why it would point there. I am
about to take this old machine offline, so I would like that path to change.
Actually, I would like to know why they are not going into Exchange's event
logs exclusively. TIA

 

 

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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



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List Charter and FAQ at:
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Ray Zorz

Title: Message



Hopefully the products will just get better all the way around, with 
restoration part of the design. 

  -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:53 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  You 
  know, I used a few little email applications that were granular like that, but 
  they didn't have the collaborative properties of an Exchange.  In some 
  ways I have accepted this perceived limitation as a price for SIS and other 
  collaborative properties Exchange offers.  Perhaps I am easy that 
  way.
   
  Please don't think it a defense of Microsoft, as I 
  anticipate future high-end collaborative products to get more complicated and 
  provide less granular option for restoring, regardless of platform.  I 
  could be wrong. 
   
  William
  

-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:07 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
And yet, the one thing that most of us wish worked better was single 
mailbox restore.  The DR procedure is a workaround for the 
inability to manage Exchange the way we'd rather manage it. 


  -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  6:54 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
  Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not 
  implement a brick-level backup solution.
   
  

-Original Message-From: Leone, 
Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 
May 06, 2002 6:47 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup 
Exec
>>We do a full backup of all systems every night, 
so extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 
>At my last job, I did full backups each night as 
well.  extra tape costs are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 8 
servers 
>running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at 
all. 
You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB 
mailboxes to the nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I 
don't need to purchase extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for 
Exchange vs other LAN backup needs.
>>Of course. Never had a job where it was anything 
but, on any subject (not just recovering email). 
>Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time 
going forward, not backwards.  A little user education goes a long 
way. 
It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the 
people I have .. :-) 
>>If you have the space on your backup media for 
all users, why exclude some? 
>Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources 
and not the best way to administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
>recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just an 
alternative.  
I don't get to decide if backing up individual email is 
a waste of resources. Wish I could. :-) 
>I concede some might want to have this backup 
method.  I find it a waste of resources mostly.  Having to 
backup the store 
>multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup is 
significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd be running 
backups for 
>hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 

>Glad it works for you, though. 
Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, 
but I know that that was one of the main questions I was asked, when 
seeking to purchase a backup solution - can we restore someone's email 
if we had to? Not everyone's - that's a DR issue. Like any business, 
they wanted to be able to do both. One day I'll test it, with my "Test" 
email account, and see how it works.List Charter and FAQ 
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)

Title: Message



we do 
both an IS backup and brick level backups.
ive 
been able to restore an entire mailbox with little problem.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:05 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  Hopefully the products will just get better all the way around, with 
  restoration part of the design. 
  
-Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:53 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
You know, I used a few little email applications 
that were granular like that, but they didn't have the collaborative 
properties of an Exchange.  In some ways I have accepted this perceived 
limitation as a price for SIS and other collaborative properties Exchange 
offers.  Perhaps I am easy that way.
 
Please don't think it a defense of Microsoft, as I 
anticipate future high-end collaborative products to get more complicated 
and provide less granular option for restoring, regardless of 
platform.  I could be wrong. 
 
William

  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:07 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  And yet, the one thing that most of us wish worked better was 
  single mailbox restore.  The DR procedure is a workaround 
  for the inability to manage Exchange the way we'd rather manage it. 
  
  
-Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
6:54 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not 
implement a brick-level backup solution.
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Leone, 
  Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 
  May 06, 2002 6:47 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup 
  Exec
  >>We do a full backup of all systems every 
  night, so extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 
  >At my last job, I did full backups each night as 
  well.  extra tape costs are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 
  8 servers 
  >running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at 
  all. 
  You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB 
  mailboxes to the nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I 
  don't need to purchase extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for 
  Exchange vs other LAN backup needs.
  >>Of course. Never had a job where it was 
  anything but, on any subject (not just recovering email). 
  >Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time 
  going forward, not backwards.  A little user education goes a 
  long way. 
  It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the 
  people I have .. :-) 
  >>If you have the space on your backup media for 
  all users, why exclude some? 
  >Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources 
  and not the best way to administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
  >recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just 
  an alternative.  
  I don't get to decide if backing up individual email 
  is a waste of resources. Wish I could. :-) 
  >I concede some might want to have this backup 
  method.  I find it a waste of resources mostly.  Having to 
  backup the store 
  >multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup 
  is significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd be running 
  backups for 
  >hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 
  
  >Glad it works for you, though. 
  Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, 
  but I know that that was one of the main questions I was asked, when 
  seeking to purchase a backup solution - can we restore someone's email 
  if we had to? Not everyone's - that's a DR issue. Like any business, 
  they wanted to be able to do both. One day I'll test it, with my 
  "Test" email account, and see how it works.List Charter and 
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Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar

2002-05-06 Thread Senter, John M

Title: Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar





I have a calendar in a public folder that I need to publish the free/busy.  Does anyone know how to set this up?


Thanks
js



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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec



On 
Exchange 2000 go to the Mailbox Store level properties.  Go to the limits 
tab.  Set your retention time there.
 
On 5.5 
go to the properties of the Private Information store and set the option in the 
General Tab.

  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  10:40 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  
  >I do a full backup of the information stores every night 
  as part of the backup jobs on my tape library.  >I have a workstation-class machine that is sitting on a shelf 
  pre-configured with Exchange and Win2K server, just in case I 
  >ever need to restore a mailbox.  >I also have deleted item retention turned on (very 
  important).  
  Where is this option? 
  >In the year that I've been using this method, I've had one 
  mailbox to restore from a tape.  It worked like a charm.  I also 
  
  >wrote step-by-step instructions and have my "lackey" do 
  test restores about once every 30-60 days just to be certain my 
  >backups are good.  The pain of dealing with BLBs vs. 
  the few hours it takes about 1-2x per year to restore a mailbox make it 
  
  >a no-brainer to me. 
  OK; I'll for not having to use my brain at work ...  
  ... could you share those instructions, perhaps? I presume they deal with 
  restoring the IS to this "shelf" machine, and extracting the needed info from 
  there?
  >I would go back to using BLBs if:  >1) They didn't waste tape by being redundant with the IS backup 
  (not likely to happen). >2) If they were as 
  reliable as backing up the IS.  I can't recall a single instance where my 
  BLBs did not "fail" because of 
  >an alleged corrupt message. 
  I've seen a few (not many) of those. List Charter 
  and FAQ 
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Re: quick question...

2002-05-06 Thread Karl Kaminski


in exchange admin create a new custom recipient, on the mailbox you want
forwarding done on go to the delivery options tab and under Alternate
recipient click on modify, find and insert the custom recipient that you
just created and click on the check box in the bottom portion of the Alt
rcpt option box to deliver only to the forwarded address (unless you want
a copy of all mail delivered locally)

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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message



Perhaps.  

  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:05 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  Hopefully the products will just get better all the way around, with 
  restoration part of the design. 
  
-Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:53 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
You know, I used a few little email applications 
that were granular like that, but they didn't have the collaborative 
properties of an Exchange.  In some ways I have accepted this perceived 
limitation as a price for SIS and other collaborative properties Exchange 
offers.  Perhaps I am easy that way.
 
Please don't think it a defense of Microsoft, as I 
anticipate future high-end collaborative products to get more complicated 
and provide less granular option for restoring, regardless of 
platform.  I could be wrong. 
 
William

  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:07 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  And yet, the one thing that most of us wish worked better was 
  single mailbox restore.  The DR procedure is a workaround 
  for the inability to manage Exchange the way we'd rather manage it. 
  
  
-Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
6:54 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
Most businesses that deploy Exchange do not 
implement a brick-level backup solution.
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Leone, 
  Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 
  May 06, 2002 6:47 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup 
  Exec
  >>We do a full backup of all systems every 
  night, so extra tape costs by doing BLBs are immaterial. 
  >At my last job, I did full backups each night as 
  well.  extra tape costs are immaterial for you?  Well, I had 
  8 servers 
  >running 10-60GB stores.  Not immaterial at 
  all. 
  You misunderstand - adding the contents of all the BLB 
  mailboxes to the nightly backup still fits on one nightly tape, so I 
  don't need to purchase extra tapes. I don't have different tapes for 
  Exchange vs other LAN backup needs.
  >>Of course. Never had a job where it was 
  anything but, on any subject (not just recovering email). 
  >Well, that's fine.  I prefer to spend my time 
  going forward, not backwards.  A little user education goes a 
  long way. 
  It can. Obviously, you've never worked for some of the 
  people I have .. :-) 
  >>If you have the space on your backup media for 
  all users, why exclude some? 
  >Mostly because I consider it a waste of resources 
  and not the best way to administer Exchange in terms of backup and 
  >recovery.  The Exmerge idea was just 
  an alternative.  
  I don't get to decide if backing up individual email 
  is a waste of resources. Wish I could. :-) 
  >I concede some might want to have this backup 
  method.  I find it a waste of resources mostly.  Having to 
  backup the store 
  >multiple times.  The size of the BLB backup 
  is significantly greater than the store backup.  I'd be running 
  backups for 
  >hours for almost no gain.  No thanks. 
  
  >Glad it works for you, though. 
  Actually, I've never had to restore a single mailbox, 
  but I know that that was one of the main questions I was asked, when 
  seeking to purchase a backup solution - can we restore someone's email 
  if we had to? Not everyone's - that's a DR issue. Like any business, 
  they wanted to be able to do both. One day I'll test it, with my 
  "Test" email account, and see how it works.List Charter and 
  FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Jim Holmgren


Michael,
If you are running Exchange 5.5, everything you need is in this link (know
it, learn it, love it):
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a
sp

Charles Villa also has a nice web page with some helpful links:
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm


My instructions were really just taken from the whitepaper, and then put
together with some screen shots for my lackey to follow.

Hope this helps,

-Jim

Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Network Engineer 
Advertising.com 
We bring innovation to interactive communication. 
Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. 

-Original Message-
From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec


From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>I do a full backup of the information stores every night as part of the
backup jobs on my tape library.  
>I have a workstation-class machine that is sitting on a shelf
pre-configured with Exchange and Win2K server, just in case I 
>ever need to restore a mailbox.  
>I also have deleted item retention turned on (very important).  
Where is this option? 
>In the year that I've been using this method, I've had one mailbox to
restore from a tape.  It worked like a charm.  I also 
>wrote step-by-step instructions and have my "lackey" do test restores about
once every 30-60 days just to be certain my 
>backups are good.  The pain of dealing with BLBs vs. the few hours it takes
about 1-2x per year to restore a mailbox make it 
>a no-brainer to me. 
OK; I'll for not having to use my brain at work ...  ... could you share
those instructions, perhaps? I presume they deal with restoring the IS to
this "shelf" machine, and extracting the needed info from there?
>I would go back to using BLBs if:  
>1) They didn't waste tape by being redundant with the IS backup (not likely
to happen). 
>2) If they were as reliable as backing up the IS.  I can't recall a single
instance where my BLBs did not "fail" because of 
>an alleged corrupt message. 
I've seen a few (not many) of those. 
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RE: Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar

Title: Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar



what 
version of Exchange

  -Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:05 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Publishing 
  Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
  I have a calendar in a public folder that I need to 
  publish the free/busy.  Does anyone know how to set this up? 
  Thanks js 
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec





You are right.  Outlook install on an Exchange server = BAD
Mailbox backup = not really worth it




-Original Message-
From: James Lockley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 03:17 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec



I recall this being discussed a little while ago but cannot pull it out of
the archives.


I have Exch 5.5 and am backing it up with Backup Exec 8.5.  I cannot connect
to backup individual mailboxes because there is no MAPI client on the
server.  Any information I can find on it says to install Outlook.
Somewhere on this list I saw that this is not a good idea, if so, what is
the alternative.


James.






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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec





From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


>On 5.5 go to the properties of the Private Information store and set the option in the General Tab.


Thanks.


OK. I had zero; I now have 45. Do I need to stop and start the IS, or does it take effect immediately?


(hopefully) my users can recover their own stuff, by using "TOOLS", "RECOVER DELETED ITEMS", and that should cover me for anything excepted a deleted mailbox? And this is (equivalent) to do a selective, individual mailbox restore of only certain items (aka BLB)?

(yes, I actually read the link :-)




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RE: It's Friday!!

2002-05-06 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry

Title: RE: It's Friday!!









You're welcome.  Glad this helped you out!

 

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Hanks
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 8:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!

 



Thanks Sherry, I am
currently reading this in my office on Monday morning while trying to dry out
after getting soaked on the way to the bus stop.  Do you know that you
really feel much warmer when you are laughing? :)





-Original Message-
From: Abercrombie, Sherry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 22:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!

And let's not forget these important rules:


http://www.wbrucecameron.com/pages/columns/onteenagers/8rules.htm


-Original Message- 
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:10 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


 

Don't have to actually use it, just take it and clean
it. That get s the point across very quickly. 

Steve Clark 
Clark Systems Support, LLC 
AVIEN Charter Member 
"Who's watching your
network?" 
www.clarksupport.com 
 
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proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the
benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems
Support, LLC. -Original Message-

From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:07 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: It's Friday!!


True, Martin, learn to use that shotgun now.I'm
glad I have boys!! 
-Original Message- 
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:03 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's Friday!! 

Yes, we definitely don't want to discuss how she will
meet someone JUST LIKE HIM some day. 
LOL - - - - 
Steve Clark 
Clark Systems Support, LLC 
AVIEN Charter Member 
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network?" 
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proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for
the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems
Support, LLC. -Original Message- 

From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office IT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:01 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's Friday!! 
OK, Martin's got a lovely new
daughter who will be dating before he knows it.  Let's not add to his
stress level here ;-) mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards), 

Steve Ropiak  
ZF Group NAO 
CERT, Exchange Administrator 
(207) 989-9115 voice 
(207) 989-8722 fax 
(513) 314-0197 cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message- 
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:59 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's Friday!! 

Good thing she looks like your wife. 
Steve Clark 
Clark Systems Support, LLC 
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www.clarksupport.com 
 
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the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems
Support, LLC. -Original Message-

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:49 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's Friday!! 
http://216.39.101.68/martin/index.htm

-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:27 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's Friday!! 
I don't get it 
  
-Original Message- 
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:23 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: It's Friday!! 
  
I have a baby 
-Original Message- 
From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:55 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: It's Friday!! 
Whoo Hoo, it's Friday, I have lots
of Krispy Kreme doughnuts (including a few crullers), Kona Special Blend
coffee, and I have Monday off.  Three day weekend, yippee!  

It's going to be a GOOD day!! 
Sherry Abercrombie 
Data Center Administration Team 
Information Technology 
"With sufficient thrust, pigs
fly just fine." 
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RE: It's Friday!!

Title: RE: It's Friday!!





that stinks



-Original Message-
From: Bart Southworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 23:31 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: It's Friday!!



And some do both 


And commute 3 hrs on Monday mornings :(


- Original Message -
From: "Wayne Hanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: It's Friday!!



> I was just saying that I finally realise why so many parents arrive at the
> office on a Monday looking like they just spent the weekend at a rave
party
> for 48 hours whilst trying to juggle eggs. :) Some parents do it with
style,
> others just lose it.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bart Southworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, 6 May 2002 10:50
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: It's Friday!!
>
>
> 40.
>
> 7, 5, 2.5
>
> Get over it.  ;-)
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wayne Hanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 8:50 PM
> Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
>
>
> > 38 with 2 boys, 3 and 8months  (try surviving for 3 years with very
> limited
> > sleep, It makes you realise why people can go postal over the dummest
> > things:-)  )
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dennis Atherton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2002 5:32
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> > I am 53, and have 2 boys 23 and 20, and a 19 year old daughter.
> >
> > The 23 year old got his Netware Admin Cert in HS.
> >
> > But I sure feel older than 53..
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:07 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> > 48
> > and I'll see your 4 + 6 year old and raise you two daughters 15 + 18 and
> an
> > 11 year old son.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:57 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> > How about 50 with a 4 and 6 year old boy.
> >
> >
> > Stefan Jafs
> > Amico Corporation
> > Tel: 1-877-GO-AMICO
> >   www.amico.com
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 16:49
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> > Thank God, somebody on here is older than me!
> >
> > 44  (with a 16 and a 2 yr old boy)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:37 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> > Byte me!
> >
> > 46
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:33 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> > I am so freaking old I'm thinking about arguing for early acceptance for
> > Kroger's Seniors discount...
> >
> > 26
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:49 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone noticed that most of the responses are from the 20
somethings?
> > lol
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TWU-Durham, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:47 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Ripe age of 22 :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:41 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> >
> > i just turned 24
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 14:26
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> > i just turned 22 haha ;)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:21 AM
> > Posted To: Exchange 2000 Server
> > Conversation: It's Friday!!
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> > Man how old are you guys???
> >
> >
> >
> > Lol
> >
> >
> >
> > My daughter makes me feel old, but YOU guys keep me young!
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:57 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: It's Friday!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Martin congrats, My two girls have grown and moved on but keep
coming
> > back with grandkids. Enjoy it really does go quick. I will have a beer
in
> > Vegas next for you.
> >
> >
> >
> > dave
> >
> > --

Email Retention Times

2002-05-06 Thread Majetic, John RAME


Speaking of deletion retention times. Is there a good default time, or best
practices time to start with and then modify as needed? What does everyone
out there have it set to? 
> Thanks 
> John Majetic 
> 

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RE: Email Retention Times


The answer is 'depends'.

Most recently, I have used 30 days for items and 10 days for mailboxes.

It should be noted, that implementing this will cause your information
store to grow.  30-35% for a setting of 30 days in my experience.
Depends on user behaviour of course.

William

-Original Message-
From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Retention Times


Speaking of deletion retention times. Is there a good default time, or
best practices time to start with and then modify as needed? What does
everyone out there have it set to? 
> Thanks
> John Majetic 
> 

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RE: Email Retention Times

2002-05-06 Thread Annette K. Raymond


30 days

-Original Message-
From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Retention Times


Speaking of deletion retention times. Is there a good default time, or best
practices time to start with and then modify as needed? What does everyone
out there have it set to? 
> Thanks 
> John Majetic 
> 

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RE: Email Retention Times

2002-05-06 Thread Martin Blackstone


Ditto

-Original Message-
From: Annette K. Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Retention Times


30 days

-Original Message-
From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Retention Times


Speaking of deletion retention times. Is there a good default time, or best
practices time to start with and then modify as needed? What does everyone
out there have it set to? 
> Thanks
> John Majetic 
> 

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RE: RE: It's Friday!!

Title: RE: RE: It's Friday!!





I thought Exchange was not designed for mail bombing ;)




-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 19:45 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RE: It's Friday!!



When my baby was born, I used an Exchange server to email everyone.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: It's Friday!!



This friday issue is filling our email. Does it have any thing to do 
with exchange? Sorry if that offended any one.
YB



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Where is the POP3 Connector

2002-05-06 Thread DanM . HQ


I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.  The
only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.  Is it
available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but prefer
2000)?

Thanks in advance.

Dan Munley

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RE: Where is the POP3 Connector

2002-05-06 Thread Chris Norris

Using Outlook you can set up multiple "Internet Mail" Services

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Where is the POP3 Connector

I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.  The
only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.  Is it
available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but prefer
2000)?

Thanks in advance.

Dan Munley

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RE: Where is the POP3 Connector


Thankfully, there is no POP connector for Exchange outside of SBS.  If
you really think your exchange server is an email client:
http://www.slipstick.com/exs/popconnect.htm

Do consider this though:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_diatribe.htm

William


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Where is the POP3 Connector


I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.
The only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.
Is it available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but
prefer 2000)?

Thanks in advance.

Dan Munley

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RE: Where is the POP3 Connector

Title: RE: Where is the POP3 Connector





It isn't a "connector". You just turn it on.


It is on the IMC. Check the POP access box


-Original Message-
From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Where is the POP3 Connector


Using Outlook you can set up multiple "Internet Mail" Services


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Where is the POP3 Connector



I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.  The
only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.  Is it
available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but prefer
2000)?


Thanks in advance.


Dan Munley


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RE: Where is the POP3 Connector

2002-05-06 Thread Haeger, John


That is to say, add a service to Outlook
in Tools, Services

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Where is the POP3 Connector



It isn't a "connector". You just turn it on. 

It is on the IMC. Check the POP access box 

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Norris [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:02 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Where is the POP3 Connector 

Using Outlook you can set up multiple "Internet Mail" Services 

-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:59 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Where is the POP3 Connector 


I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.  The

only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.  Is it 
available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but prefer 
2000)? 

Thanks in advance. 

Dan Munley 

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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec



Honestly... I would tell the users about it.  Some of them can try 
and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover Deleted Items box and delete 
their mail there too... and still complain about wanting it back.  My 
suggestion... keep it to yourself and then you get to play "hero" 
occaisionally.

  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  
  >On 5.5 go to the properties of the Private Information 
  store and set the option in the General Tab. 
  Thanks. 
  OK. I had zero; I now have 45. Do I need to stop and start the 
  IS, or does it take effect immediately? 
  (hopefully) my users can recover their own stuff, by using 
  "TOOLS", "RECOVER DELETED ITEMS", and that should cover me for anything 
  excepted a deleted mailbox? And this is (equivalent) to do a selective, 
  individual mailbox restore of only certain items (aka BLB)?
  (yes, I actually read the link :-) List Charter 
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RE: Where is the POP3 Connector

2002-05-06 Thread Clark, Steve


www.jak.com

based on the email info below, if you are not able to pull using an OutLook
client, I've used it for years to pull email for a foreign domain on a 1 or
2 mailbox requirement from the customer.

If you have a domain, get the IP address set with your ISP so you don't have
to do this.

If you want exacts - email off list to reduce the flames that will start
shortly.

Let the games begin!

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Where is the POP3 Connector

I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.  The
only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.  Is it
available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but prefer
2000)?

Thanks in advance.

Dan Munley

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RE: Where is the POP3 Connector

2002-05-06 Thread DanM . HQ


Will that cause the information to go into the information store or a .PST
file?

Dan Munley



-Original Message-
From: Chris Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Where is the POP3 Connector


Using Outlook you can set up multiple "Internet Mail" Services

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Where is the POP3 Connector


I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.  The
only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.  Is it
available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but prefer
2000)?

Thanks in advance.

Dan Munley

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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Steve Ens

Title: Message



Exactly...don't let the average user know about this...it is too much fun 
letting them squirm while we "wave our magic wand" and make their mail 
reappear.

  
  -Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:39 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  Honestly... I would tell the users about it.  Some of them can try 
  and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover Deleted Items box and delete 
  their mail there too... and still complain about wanting it back.  My 
  suggestion... keep it to yourself and then you get to play "hero" 
  occaisionally.
  
-Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
11:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

>On 5.5 go to the properties of the Private Information 
store and set the option in the General Tab. 
Thanks. 
OK. I had zero; I now have 45. Do I need to stop and start 
the IS, or does it take effect immediately? 
(hopefully) my users can recover their own stuff, by using 
"TOOLS", "RECOVER DELETED ITEMS", and that should cover me for anything 
excepted a deleted mailbox? And this is (equivalent) to do a selective, 
individual mailbox restore of only certain items (aka BLB)?
(yes, I actually read the link :-) List 
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  Charter and FAQ 
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec





>Honestly... I would tell the users about it.  Some of them can try and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover Deleted 

>Items box and delete their mail there too... and still complain about wanting it back.  My suggestion... keep it to yourself 

>and then you get to play "hero" occasionally.


I can live with that. :-)


I may keep the BE option to backup the individual mailboxes for a little while longer, anyway. Just in case. :-)



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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec



Ick... 
man please just avoid the BLB.  You'd be better off just doing what william 
said and keeping around an old trash machine to do full restores to.  It 
will give you DR practice anyway.  All you do is recover the full store... 
the exmerge the box off to a pst and reimport back into the production 
box.

  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  >Honestly... I would tell the users about it.  Some of 
  them can try and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover Deleted 
  
  >Items box and delete their mail there too... and still 
  complain about wanting it back.  My suggestion... keep it to yourself 
  
  >and then you get to play "hero" occasionally. 
  I can live with that. :-) 
  I may keep the BE option to backup the individual mailboxes 
  for a little while longer, anyway. Just in case. :-) List Charter 
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Moving the information store to another server


I desperately need help.  I am flying solo here at my company.  I am the
programmer, but I also have to admin the network which is pure MS.  This is
not so much of a problem though.  I have a new Dell server that is setup and
ready host our exchange server.  I want to move all of the mailboxes on our
current exchange server and all other data that would be needed get the new
server running in the same fashion as the old server.  The current exchange
server is running NT4 with Exchange 5.5, the new server is running W2K with
Exchange 5.5.

I had spoken with someone about this before, and was told that the 'move
mailbox' feature in the menu options was not wise in this case.  He advised
that I do it manually to guarantee that the new server acts the way I need.
I haven't had any luck contacting this person, and have not Exchange
experience.  Any help that anyone could provide, via email, AIM, or phone
would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance for your time!


Nick Fotopoulos
IT Manager
RSVP USA
1501 3rd Avenue
New York, NY

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RE: Where is the POP3 Connector

2002-05-06 Thread Bill Kuhn - MCSE


If you really need to suck email from a pop server and get it to your exchange 
mailboxes, you might head over to www.lockstep.com and look at IGETMAIL. IGETMAIL runs 
as a service (or not - your choice) on most anything and is designed to pull POP mail 
at regular intervals and deliver it to Exchange or other email servers using SMTP. It 
is cheap ($69) and it works. I use it to suck mail into my E2K box out here in the 
middle of nowhere over my dial-up cup-and-string connection.

Of course you can just have Outlook do it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Where is the POP3 Connector


I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.  The
only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.  Is it
available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but prefer
2000)?

Thanks in advance.

Dan Munley

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RE: Moving the information store to another server

2002-05-06 Thread Martin Blackstone

Move mailbox is awesome.

Here is a step by step list of how to do it.
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm

-Original Message-
From: Nickolaos Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the information store to another server

I desperately need help.  I am flying solo here at my company.  I am the
programmer, but I also have to admin the network which is pure MS.  This is
not so much of a problem though.  I have a new Dell server that is setup and
ready host our exchange server.  I want to move all of the mailboxes on our
current exchange server and all other data that would be needed get the new
server running in the same fashion as the old server.  The current exchange
server is running NT4 with Exchange 5.5, the new server is running W2K with
Exchange 5.5.

I had spoken with someone about this before, and was told that the 'move
mailbox' feature in the menu options was not wise in this case.  He advised
that I do it manually to guarantee that the new server acts the way I need.
I haven't had any luck contacting this person, and have not Exchange
experience.  Any help that anyone could provide, via email, AIM, or phone
would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance for your time!

Nick Fotopoulos
IT Manager
RSVP USA
1501 3rd Avenue
New York, NY

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RE: Moving the information store to another server


Move mailbox is the easiest way, as long as a few preconditions are met:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm

William


-Original Message-
From: Nickolaos Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the information store to another server


I desperately need help.  I am flying solo here at my company.  I am the
programmer, but I also have to admin the network which is pure MS.  This
is not so much of a problem though.  I have a new Dell server that is
setup and ready host our exchange server.  I want to move all of the
mailboxes on our current exchange server and all other data that would
be needed get the new server running in the same fashion as the old
server.  The current exchange server is running NT4 with Exchange 5.5,
the new server is running W2K with Exchange 5.5.

I had spoken with someone about this before, and was told that the 'move
mailbox' feature in the menu options was not wise in this case.  He
advised that I do it manually to guarantee that the new server acts the
way I need. I haven't had any luck contacting this person, and have not
Exchange experience.  Any help that anyone could provide, via email,
AIM, or phone would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance for your
time!


Nick Fotopoulos
IT Manager
RSVP USA
1501 3rd Avenue
New York, NY

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RE: Moving the information store to another server

Title: RE: Moving the information store to another server





You should definitely look at using the Ed Crowley


http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the information store to another server


Move mailbox is the easiest way, as long as a few preconditions are met:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm


William



-Original Message-
From: Nickolaos Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the information store to another server



I desperately need help.  I am flying solo here at my company.  I am the
programmer, but I also have to admin the network which is pure MS.  This
is not so much of a problem though.  I have a new Dell server that is
setup and ready host our exchange server.  I want to move all of the
mailboxes on our current exchange server and all other data that would
be needed get the new server running in the same fashion as the old
server.  The current exchange server is running NT4 with Exchange 5.5,
the new server is running W2K with Exchange 5.5.


I had spoken with someone about this before, and was told that the 'move
mailbox' feature in the menu options was not wise in this case.  He
advised that I do it manually to guarantee that the new server acts the
way I need. I haven't had any luck contacting this person, and have not
Exchange experience.  Any help that anyone could provide, via email,
AIM, or phone would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance for your
time!



Nick Fotopoulos
IT Manager
RSVP USA
1501 3rd Avenue
New York, NY


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Problem with grant permission on public folder

2002-05-06 Thread Feng, Sherry


I have problem to grant permission to one user on public folder. After I
add this user in folder permission tab then click APPLY, this user's
name disappear from the name list. So far I don't have any problem to
add all other users. 

Does anyone see this same problem? Any help will be appreciate. Thank
you.

Sherry Feng
Aegis Insurance Services, Inc.
Tel: 201-521-4720
Fax: 201-356-4187
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: Where is the POP3 Connector

2002-05-06 Thread DanM . HQ


Thanks, and the price is right!

Dan Munley
MIS Department
(201)930-0100 ext. 308


-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Where is the POP3 Connector


If you really need to suck email from a pop server and get it to your
exchange mailboxes, you might head over to www.lockstep.com and look at
IGETMAIL. IGETMAIL runs as a service (or not - your choice) on most anything
and is designed to pull POP mail at regular intervals and deliver it to
Exchange or other email servers using SMTP. It is cheap ($69) and it works.
I use it to suck mail into my E2K box out here in the middle of nowhere over
my dial-up cup-and-string connection.

Of course you can just have Outlook do it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Where is the POP3 Connector


I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.  The
only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.  Is it
available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but prefer
2000)?

Thanks in advance.

Dan Munley

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RE: Problem with grant permission on public folder

Title: RE: Problem with grant permission on public folder





Yes, it is ghost user syndrome. It is usually a sign that the user needs to be let go. Notify HR immediately


-Original Message-
From: Feng, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Problem with grant permission on public folder


I have problem to grant permission to one user on public folder. After I
add this user in folder permission tab then click APPLY, this user's
name disappear from the name list. So far I don't have any problem to
add all other users. 


Does anyone see this same problem? Any help will be appreciate. Thank
you.


Sherry Feng
Aegis Insurance Services, Inc.
Tel: 201-521-4720
Fax: 201-356-4187
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar

2002-05-06 Thread Senter, John M

Title: Message



Exchange 5.5sp4

  
  -Original Message-From: Precht, David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:22 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Publishing 
  Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
  what 
  version of Exchange
  
-Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:05 
To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Publishing 
Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
I have a calendar in a public folder that I need 
to publish the free/busy.  Does anyone know how to set this up? 

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RE: Problem with grant permission on public folder

Title: RE: Problem with grant permission on public folder



HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH *whew*

  -Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:12 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Problem with 
  grant permission on public folder
  Yes, it is ghost user syndrome. It is usually a sign that the 
  user needs to be let go. Notify HR immediately 
  -Original Message- From: Feng, 
  Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Problem 
  with grant permission on public folder 
  I have problem to grant permission to one user on public 
  folder. After I add this user in folder permission tab 
  then click APPLY, this user's name disappear from the 
  name list. So far I don't have any problem to add all 
  other users. 
  Does anyone see this same problem? Any help will be 
  appreciate. Thank you. 
  Sherry Feng Aegis Insurance Services, 
  Inc. Tel: 201-521-4720 Fax: 
  201-356-4187 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
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RE: Problem with grant permission on public folder

Title: RE: Problem with grant permission on public folder



Can 
someone elaborate on what a ghost user is please?  I am extremely new to 
Exchange.  I think I have an idea of what it is, but i'm don't get why 
Preston found it so funny, so I must be wronghehe

  -Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:31 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Problem with 
  grant permission on public folder
  HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH *whew*
  
-Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:12 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Problem 
with grant permission on public folder
Yes, it is ghost user syndrome. It is usually a sign that 
the user needs to be let go. Notify HR immediately 
-Original Message- From: 
Feng, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Problem 
with grant permission on public folder 
I have problem to grant permission to one user on public 
folder. After I add this user in folder permission 
tab then click APPLY, this user's name disappear 
from the name list. So far I don't have any problem to add all other users. 
Does anyone see this same problem? Any help will be 
appreciate. Thank you. 
Sherry Feng Aegis Insurance 
Services, Inc. Tel: 201-521-4720 Fax: 201-356-4187 Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Removing Exchange 5.5

Title: Message



I was 
playing around with the Exchange 5.5 install on the new server running 
W2K.  I want to complete remove it and start over with my bare W2K 
install.  I don't see anything in Add/Remove.  Is this something that 
needs to be done manually or is it easier to just reinstall the system from 
scratch?  Just trying to save a little time, thanks 
again.

  -Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:16 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Publishing 
  Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
  Exchange 5.5sp4
  

-Original Message-From: Precht, David 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
10:22 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
what version of Exchange

  -Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:05 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Publishing 
  Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
  I have a calendar in a public folder that I 
  need to publish the free/busy.  Does anyone know how to set this 
  up? 
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RE: Removing Exchange 5.5

2002-05-06 Thread Steve Ens

Title: Message



Insert 
the CD, it'll give you the option to uninstall, etc..

  
  -Original Message-From: Nickolaos 
  Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  12:30 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Removing 
  Exchange 5.5
  I 
  was playing around with the Exchange 5.5 install on the new server running 
  W2K.  I want to complete remove it and start over with my bare W2K 
  install.  I don't see anything in Add/Remove.  Is this something 
  that needs to be done manually or is it easier to just reinstall the system 
  from scratch?  Just trying to save a little time, thanks 
  again.
  
-Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:16 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Publishing 
Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
Exchange 5.5sp4

  
  -Original Message-From: Precht, 
  David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 
  2002 10:22 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
  what version of Exchange
  
-Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
11:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
I have a calendar in a public folder that I 
need to publish the free/busy.  Does anyone know how to set this 
up? 
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RE: Removing Exchange 5.5

Title: Message



ArrrgghhI should have known that...from the Office 
install disk...lol...thanks!  I can't believe its 1:30 in the afternoon and 
im still asleep...hehe
 
Nick

  -Original Message-From: Steve Ens 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Removing 
  Exchange 5.5
  Insert the CD, it'll give you the option to uninstall, 
  etc..
  

-Original Message-From: Nickolaos 
Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
12:30 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Removing 
Exchange 5.5
I 
was playing around with the Exchange 5.5 install on the new server running 
W2K.  I want to complete remove it and start over with my bare W2K 
install.  I don't see anything in Add/Remove.  Is this something 
that needs to be done manually or is it easier to just reinstall the system 
from scratch?  Just trying to save a little time, thanks 
again.

  -Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:16 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
  Exchange 5.5sp4
  

-Original Message-From: Precht, 
David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 
06, 2002 10:22 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder 
calendar
what version of Exchange

  -Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  11:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
  I have a calendar in a public folder that I 
  need to publish the free/busy.  Does anyone know how to set this 
  up? 
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RE: Removing Exchange 5.5

Title: Message









Yes, use the CD, and BTW, you are a thread
stealer!!

 

-Original Message-
From: Nickolaos Fotopoulos
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:33
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Removing Exchange 5.5

 



ArrrgghhI should have
known that...from the Office install disk...lol...thanks!  I can't believe
its 1:30 in the afternoon and im still asleep...hehe





 





Nick





-Original
Message-
From: Steve Ens
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Removing Exchange 5.5



Insert the CD, it'll give
you the option to uninstall, etc..





-Original
Message-
From: Nickolaos Fotopoulos
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:30
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Removing Exchange 5.5



I was playing around with
the Exchange 5.5 install on the new server running W2K.  I want to
complete remove it and start over with my bare W2K install.  I don't see
anything in Add/Remove.  Is this something that needs to be done manually
or is it easier to just reinstall the system from scratch?  Just trying to
save a little time, thanks again.





-Original
Message-
From: Senter, John M
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Publishing Free/Busy
for a Public Folder calendar



Exchange 5.5sp4





-Original
Message-
From: Precht, David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:22
AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Publishing Free/Busy
for a Public Folder calendar



what version of Exchange





-Original
Message-
From: Senter, John M
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:05 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Publishing Free/Busy for
a Public Folder calendar

I have a calendar in a public folder that I need to
publish the free/busy.  Does anyone know how to set this up?


Thanks 
js


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RE: Removing Exchange 5.5

Title: Message



This 
one is silly, but run setup to remove.
 
Same 
in Exchange2000 (though it will appear in add/remove 
programmes).
 
William

  
  -Original Message-From: Nickolaos 
  Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  10:30 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Removing 
  Exchange 5.5
  I 
  was playing around with the Exchange 5.5 install on the new server running 
  W2K.  I want to complete remove it and start over with my bare W2K 
  install.  I don't see anything in Add/Remove.  Is this something 
  that needs to be done manually or is it easier to just reinstall the system 
  from scratch?  Just trying to save a little time, thanks 
  again.
  
-Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:16 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Publishing 
Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
Exchange 5.5sp4

  
  -Original Message-From: Precht, 
  David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 
  2002 10:22 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
  what version of Exchange
  
-Original Message-From: Senter, John M 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
11:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar
I have a calendar in a public folder that I 
need to publish the free/busy.  Does anyone know how to set this 
up? 
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RE: Removing Exchange 5.5

Title: Message



OopsI usually just click on reply on the last message received and 
delete the entire contents of the previous messages, because its faster than 
making a new message and entering the email or selecting one from the address 
book.  In my haste to get the email typed while I had a couple of minutes 
available, I forgot to delete the body of the reply.  
Sorry.
 
Nick

  -Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:44 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Removing 
  Exchange 5.5
  
  Yes, use the CD, and 
  BTW, you are a thread stealer!!
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Nickolaos 
  Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:33 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Removing 
  Exchange 5.5
   
  
  ArrrgghhI should 
  have known that...from the Office install disk...lol...thanks!  I can't 
  believe its 1:30 in the afternoon and im still 
  asleep...hehe
  
   
  
  Nick
  
-Original 
Message-From: Steve 
Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:39 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
Removing Exchange 5.5

Insert 
the CD, it'll give you the option to uninstall, 
etc..
-Original 
  Message-From: 
  Nickolaos Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:30 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Removing 
  Exchange 5.5
  
  I 
  was playing around with the Exchange 5.5 install on the new server running 
  W2K.  I want to complete remove it and start over with my bare W2K 
  install.  I don't see anything in Add/Remove.  Is this something 
  that needs to be done manually or is it easier to just reinstall the 
  system from scratch?  Just trying to save a little time, thanks 
  again.
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Senter, John M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:16 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder calendar

Exchange 
5.5sp4

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:22 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange 
  Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: Publishing Free/Busy for a Public Folder 
calendar
  
  what version 
  of Exchange
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Senter, John M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
11:05 To: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Publishing Free/Busy 
for a Public Folder calendar
I have a calendar in a 
public folder that I need to publish the free/busy.  Does 
anyone know how to set this up? 
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Jay Ploughe

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

I have
been watching this thread seeing the all the "Avoid BLBrestore the IS and do
Exmerge" comments with interest.
I do
use Deleted Item Retention (10 days) and I do perform a full backup of the
stores for disaster recovery.
I also
do BLB for 3 reasons: 1. Management says I have to, 2. Some of my users
have discovered the Deleted Items Recovery feature (and deleted them there too)
and 3. It would take longer to restore the IS's
from tape than it would to just restore it directly from the BLB
tape. I would rather spent 5-10 minutes restoring an email or
folder from my nightly backups (if it exceeds the 10 day retention time) than
spending hours setting up another server, restoring the IS and doing an
Exmerge. If for some reason it can't be restored, then I tell the user "so
sad, too bad...not recoverable". I don't
consider recovering deleted emails a disaster so why should I have to
perform a disaster recovery just to get email
back?.
Just
my 2 cents worth.
Jay Ploughe Network Administrator Kiwanis International www.kiwanis.org "Serving the Children of the World"

-Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002
11:47To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup
mailboxes with Backup Exec
Ick... man please just avoid the BLB. You'd be better off just
doing what william said and keeping around an old trash machine to do full
restores to. It will give you DR practice anyway. All you do is
recover the full store... the exmerge the box off to a pst and reimport back
into the production box.

>Items box and delete their mail there too... and still
complain about wanting it back. My suggestion... keep it to yourself

>and then you get to play "hero" occasionally.

I can live with that. :-)
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec



Sounds 
right to me...with the exception of a few accidental email deletions, people 
should know that when Outlook says "Permanent" that they should expect it to be 
permanent.  I have run into several user that use the Deleted Items folder 
(are you sitting down) to store important emails that they want to 
keep.
 
Nick

  -Original Message-From: Jay Ploughe 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 2:24 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  I 
  have been watching this thread seeing the all the "Avoid BLBrestore the IS 
  and do Exmerge" comments with interest.
  I do 
  use Deleted Item Retention (10 days) and I do perform a full backup of 
  the stores for disaster recovery.
  I 
  also do BLB for 3 reasons: 1. Management says I have to, 2. Some of my 
  users have discovered the Deleted Items Recovery feature (and deleted them 
  there too) and 3. It would take longer to 
  restore the IS's from tape than it would to just restore it directly from 
  the BLB tape.  I would rather spent 5-10 minutes restoring an 
  email or folder from my nightly backups (if it exceeds the 10 day retention 
  time) than spending hours setting up another server, restoring the IS and 
  doing an Exmerge.  If for some reason it can't be restored, then I tell 
  the user "so sad, too bad...not recoverable".  I don't consider recovering deleted emails a 
  disaster so why should I have to perform a disaster recovery just to 
  get email back?. 
     
  Just 
  my 2 cents worth.  
   
  Jay Ploughe Network Administrator Kiwanis International www.kiwanis.org "Serving the Children of the World" 
  
  
-Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
11:47To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
Ick... man please just avoid the BLB.  You'd be better off just 
doing what william said and keeping around an old trash machine to do full 
restores to.  It will give you DR practice anyway.  All you do is 
recover the full store... the exmerge the box off to a pst and reimport back 
into the production box.

  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
  >Honestly... I would tell the users about it.  
  Some of them can try and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover 
  Deleted 
  >Items box and delete their mail there too... and still 
  complain about wanting it back.  My suggestion... keep it to yourself 
  
  >and then you get to play "hero" occasionally. 
  
  I can live with that. :-) 
  I may keep the BE option to backup the individual 
  mailboxes for a little while longer, anyway. Just in case. :-) 
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

2002-05-06 Thread Ray Zorz

Title: RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Outstanding. Nice to hear the other side.

-Original Message-From: Jay Ploughe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:24
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup
mailboxes with Backup Exec
I
have been watching this thread seeing the all the "Avoid BLBrestore the IS
and do Exmerge" comments with interest.
I do
use Deleted Item Retention (10 days) and I do perform a full backup of
the stores for disaster recovery.
I
also do BLB for 3 reasons: 1. Management says I have to, 2. Some of my
users have discovered the Deleted Items Recovery feature (and deleted them
there too) and 3. It would take longer to
restore the IS's from tape than it would to just restore it directly from
the BLB tape. I would rather spent 5-10 minutes restoring an
email or folder from my nightly backups (if it exceeds the 10 day retention
time) than spending hours setting up another server, restoring the IS and
doing an Exmerge. If for some reason it can't be restored, then I tell
the user "so sad, too bad...not recoverable". I don't consider recovering deleted emails a
disaster so why should I have to perform a disaster recovery just to
get email back?.
Just
my 2 cents worth.
Jay Ploughe Network Administrator Kiwanis International www.kiwanis.org "Serving the Children of the World"

-Original Message-From: Leone, Michael
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002
12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
>Honestly... I would tell the users about it.
Some of them can try and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover
Deleted
>Items box and delete their mail there too... and still
complain about wanting it back. My suggestion... keep it to yourself

>and then you get to play "hero" occasionally.

I can live with that. :-)
I may keep the BE option to backup the individual
mailboxes for a little while longer, anyway. Just in case. :-)
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Exchange 2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own

2002-05-06 Thread Adams, Shawn

Title: Message



I have 
the following installed no the server:
Exchange 2000 with sp2
MS 
Windows 2k with sp2
OWA 

 
The 
virtaul site for OWA stopps on it own. I have to restart the site to get it back 
up again. Then it goes down again after a few days. Anyone know why it does 
this? and how to correct?
 
Thanks
Shawn
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RE: Exchange 2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own

2002-05-06 Thread Rafael Fernandes Novo

Title: Message



Nimda 
causes this. Have you applied the last security fix?
 
 

  -Original Message-From: Adams, Shawn 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  3:33 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Exchange 
  2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own
  I 
  have the following installed no the server:
  Exchange 2000 with sp2
  MS 
  Windows 2k with sp2
  OWA 
  
   
  The 
  virtaul site for OWA stopps on it own. I have to restart the site to get it 
  back up again. Then it goes down again after a few days. Anyone know why it 
  does this? and how to correct?
   
  Thanks
  ShawnList Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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domains and sites

2002-05-06 Thread Majetic, John RAME


I have to move our servers over to Windows 2000 Server from NT 4.0 server
which they are now, and I am trying to plan this out as painlessly as
possible. I have to create a new domain for Windows 2000 as per the parent
company. 

I have read the Ed Crowley server move method, and the Method to move a
server from one Domain to another in the Exchange 5.5 FAQ at swinc.com.

Am I correct in assuming that I cannot follow Ed's method since I am moving
from one domain to another?

John Majetic 

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RE: Exchange 2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own

Title: Message



Any 
services that run under IIS will auto stop at what seems like random intervals 
when infected with Nimda.  We have cleaned/quarantined all of the files on 
one of our servers and it still acts funny.
 
Nick

  -Original Message-From: Rafael Fernandes Novo 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 2:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 2000 
  and virtual shares stopping on their own
  Nimda causes this. Have you applied the last security 
  fix?
   
   
  
-Original Message-From: Adams, Shawn 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
3:33 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Exchange 
2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own
I 
have the following installed no the server:
Exchange 2000 with sp2
MS 
Windows 2k with sp2
OWA 
 
The virtaul site for OWA stopps on it own. I have to restart the site 
to get it back up again. Then it goes down again after a few days. Anyone 
know why it does this? and how to correct?
 
Thanks
ShawnList Charter and FAQ 
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RE: Exchange 2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own

Title: Message



BTW, 
as far as I know not all version of Nimda can be cleaned.

  -Original Message-From: Nickolaos Fotopoulos 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 2:38 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 2000 
  and virtual shares stopping on their own
  Any 
  services that run under IIS will auto stop at what seems like random intervals 
  when infected with Nimda.  We have cleaned/quarantined all of the files 
  on one of our servers and it still acts funny.
   
  Nick
  
-Original Message-From: Rafael Fernandes Novo 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 2:39 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 
2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own
Nimda causes this. Have you applied the last security 
fix?
 
 

  -Original Message-From: Adams, Shawn 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  3:33 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Exchange 
  2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own
  I have the following installed no the server:
  Exchange 2000 with sp2
  MS Windows 2k with sp2
  OWA 
   
  The virtaul site for OWA stopps on it own. I have to restart the 
  site to get it back up again. Then it goes down again after a few days. 
  Anyone know why it does this? and how to correct?
   
  Thanks
  ShawnList Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message



No 
flames.  Just frank discussion.
 
>>I don't consider 
recovering deleted emails a disaster
 
Neither do I.  So I don't do 
it.
 
>>Some of my users have discovered the Deleted 
Items Recovery feature (and deleted them there too)
 
Wonderful.  I love users that keep their mailbox 
and my store clean.  Clearly the information was not needed and having them 
go to that extent to remove it means they really aren't going to be asking to 
have it recovered.  As a security step in Exchange2000, you can set any 
deleted items to not get purged until they make it to a backup set.  Even 
if they clean it out, you can still hold an archive if so 
desired.
 
>>.  I would rather spent 5-10 
minutes restoring an email or folder
 
That's 5-10 minutes more than I would rather 
spend.  Good on ya, mate.  
 
William
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Jay Ploughe 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:24 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  I 
  have been watching this thread seeing the all the "Avoid BLBrestore the IS 
  and do Exmerge" comments with interest.
  I do 
  use Deleted Item Retention (10 days) and I do perform a full backup of 
  the stores for disaster recovery.
  I 
  also do BLB for 3 reasons: 1. Management says I have to, 2. Some of my 
  users have discovered the Deleted Items Recovery feature (and deleted them 
  there too) and 3. It would take longer to 
  restore the IS's from tape than it would to just restore it directly from 
  the BLB tape.  I would rather spent 5-10 minutes restoring an 
  email or folder from my nightly backups (if it exceeds the 10 day retention 
  time) than spending hours setting up another server, restoring the IS and 
  doing an Exmerge.  If for some reason it can't be restored, then I tell 
  the user "so sad, too bad...not recoverable".  I don't consider recovering deleted emails a 
  disaster so why should I have to perform a disaster recovery just to 
  get email back?. 
     
  Just 
  my 2 cents worth.  
   
  Jay Ploughe Network Administrator Kiwanis International www.kiwanis.org "Serving the Children of the World" 
  
  
-Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
11:47To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
Ick... man please just avoid the BLB.  You'd be better off just 
doing what william said and keeping around an old trash machine to do full 
restores to.  It will give you DR practice anyway.  All you do is 
recover the full store... the exmerge the box off to a pst and reimport back 
into the production box.

  -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
  >Honestly... I would tell the users about it.  
  Some of them can try and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover 
  Deleted 
  >Items box and delete their mail there too... and still 
  complain about wanting it back.  My suggestion... keep it to yourself 
  
  >and then you get to play "hero" occasionally. 
  
  I can live with that. :-) 
  I may keep the BE option to backup the individual 
  mailboxes for a little while longer, anyway. Just in case. :-) 
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  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message



I love 
going through the BLB restore process [1] and getting the mailbox only to find 
out the friggin' email had an embedded image that was needed as part of the 
restore but it's all wailed by some digital ninja and is basically 
useless.  Or the email body is there but some header information is 
screwy.  Hmm, I wonder who that was BCC'd to?
 
Again, 
I'm glad it works for you.
 
William
 
[1] By 
the way, I only ever deployed this with InoculateIT [2]
[2] 
Didn't affect me though.
 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:29 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  Outstanding.  Nice to hear the other side. 
  
  
-Original Message-From: Jay Ploughe 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:24 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
mailboxes with Backup Exec
I 
have been watching this thread seeing the all the "Avoid BLBrestore the 
IS and do Exmerge" comments with interest.
I 
do use Deleted Item Retention (10 days) and I do perform a full 
backup of the stores for disaster recovery.
I 
also do BLB for 3 reasons: 1. Management says I have to, 2. Some of my 
users have discovered the Deleted Items Recovery feature (and deleted them 
there too) and 3. It would take longer to 
restore the IS's from tape than it would to just restore it directly 
from the BLB tape.  I would rather spent 5-10 
minutes restoring an email or folder from my nightly backups (if it 
exceeds the 10 day retention time) than spending hours setting up 
another server, restoring the IS and doing an Exmerge.  If for some 
reason it can't be restored, then I tell the user "so sad, too bad...not 
recoverable".  I don't consider 
recovering deleted emails a disaster so why should I have to perform a 
disaster recovery just to get email 
back?. 
   
Just my 2 cents worth.  
 
Jay Ploughe Network Administrator Kiwanis International www.kiwanis.org "Serving the Children of the World" 


  -Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  11:47To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup 
  mailboxes with Backup Exec
  Ick... man please just avoid the BLB.  You'd be better off 
  just doing what william said and keeping around an old trash machine to do 
  full restores to.  It will give you DR practice anyway.  All you 
  do is recover the full store... the exmerge the box off to a pst and 
  reimport back into the production box.
  
-Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 
2002 12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
>Honestly... I would tell the users about it.  
Some of them can try and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover 
Deleted 
>Items box and delete their mail there too... and 
still complain about wanting it back.  My suggestion... keep it to 
yourself 
>and then you get to play "hero" occasionally. 

I can live with that. :-) 
I may keep the BE option to backup the individual 
mailboxes for a little while longer, anyway. Just in case. :-) 
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RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec

Title: Message

Do
they use the trash can beside their desks to store important documents?

User
education again.

-Original Message-From: Nickolaos
Fotopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002
11:19 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup
mailboxes with Backup Exec
Sounds right to me...with the exception of a few
accidental email deletions, people should know that when Outlook says
"Permanent" that they should expect it to be permanent. I have run into
several user that use the Deleted Items folder (are you sitting down) to store
important emails that they want to keep.
Nick

-Original Message-From: Jay Ploughe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 2:24
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup
mailboxes with Backup Exec
I
have been watching this thread seeing the all the "Avoid BLBrestore the
IS and do Exmerge" comments with interest.
I
do use Deleted Item Retention (10 days) and I do perform a full
backup of the stores for disaster recovery.
I
also do BLB for 3 reasons: 1. Management says I have to, 2. Some of my
users have discovered the Deleted Items Recovery feature (and deleted them
there too) and 3. It would take longer to
restore the IS's from tape than it would to just restore it directly
from the BLB tape. I would rather spent 5-10
minutes restoring an email or folder from my nightly backups (if it
exceeds the 10 day retention time) than spending hours setting up
another server, restoring the IS and doing an Exmerge. If for some
reason it can't be restored, then I tell the user "so sad, too bad...not
recoverable". I don't consider
recovering deleted emails a disaster so why should I have to perform a
disaster recovery just to get email
back?.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Jay Ploughe Network Administrator Kiwanis International www.kiwanis.org "Serving the Children of the World"

-Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002
11:47To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: backup
mailboxes with Backup Exec
Ick... man please just avoid the BLB. You'd be better off
just doing what william said and keeping around an old trash machine to do
full restores to. It will give you DR practice anyway. All you
do is recover the full store... the exmerge the box off to a pst and
reimport back into the production box.

-Original Message-From: Leone, Michael
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 06,
2002 12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject:
RE: backup mailboxes with Backup Exec
>Honestly... I would tell the users about it.
Some of them can try and be extra smart and then go in to the Recover
Deleted
>Items box and delete their mail there too... and
still complain about wanting it back. My suggestion... keep it to
yourself
>and then you get to play "hero" occasionally.

I can live with that. :-)
I may keep the BE option to backup the individual
mailboxes for a little while longer, anyway. Just in case. :-)
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RE: Exchange 2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own

Title: Message



I have 
no idea.  Must be you.
 
Seriously, anything in the application event log?  
It's not normal behaviour for the product.
 
William

  
  -Original Message-From: Adams, Shawn 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 
  11:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Exchange 
  2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own
  I 
  have the following installed no the server:
  Exchange 2000 with sp2
  MS 
  Windows 2k with sp2
  OWA 
  
   
  The 
  virtaul site for OWA stopps on it own. I have to restart the site to get it 
  back up again. Then it goes down again after a few days. Anyone know why it 
  does this? and how to correct?
   
  Thanks
  ShawnList Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: domains and sites


>>I cannot follow Ed's method

Correct.  Is the destination an Active Directory domain?

William

-Original Message-
From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: domains and sites


I have to move our servers over to Windows 2000 Server from NT 4.0
server which they are now, and I am trying to plan this out as
painlessly as possible. I have to create a new domain for Windows 2000
as per the parent company. 

I have read the Ed Crowley server move method, and the Method to move a
server from one Domain to another in the Exchange 5.5 FAQ at swinc.com.

Am I correct in assuming that 
 since I am moving from one domain to another?

John Majetic 

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RE: Exchange 2000 and virtual shares stopping on their own