Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly
Outlook 2007 12.0.4518.1014 .4+ 12.0.4518.1014 Part of office basic Ost file is 4.23 gigs Not sure but I believe user did close outlook using red x then shut down the program. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:42:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly That's pretty vague. How about including: Version of Outlook Size of PST Did the user shut down Windows without verifying that Outlook was actually closed (it needs some time to write to the PST after you close it), by checking the Task Manager? Does the user have a handheld which hadn't finished synching with Outlook? Some details to help troubleshoot, please! Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: justino garcia To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:17 AM Subject: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly -- Justin IT-TECH
Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly
User has BB connected via bess. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:42:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly That's pretty vague. How about including: Version of Outlook Size of PST Did the user shut down Windows without verifying that Outlook was actually closed (it needs some time to write to the PST after you close it), by checking the Task Manager? Does the user have a handheld which hadn't finished synching with Outlook? Some details to help troubleshoot, please! Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: justino garcia To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:17 AM Subject: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly -- Justin IT-TECH
Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly
Only exchange in cached mode. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:55:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Did the user create a PST? Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Outlook 2007 12.0.4518.1014 .4+ 12.0.4518.1014 Part of office basic Ost file is 4.23 gigs Not sure but I believe user did close outlook using red x then shut down the program. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:42:50 -0400 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly That's pretty vague. How about including: Version of Outlook Size of PST Did the user shut down Windows without verifying that Outlook was actually closed (it needs some time to write to the PST after you close it), by checking the Task Manager? Does the user have a handheld which hadn't finished synching with Outlook? Some details to help troubleshoot, please! Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: justino garcia To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:17 AM Subject: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly -- Justin IT-TECH
Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly
You mean a pst archive of his emails no, it an OST in cachemode Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:55:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Did the user create a PST? Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Outlook 2007 12.0.4518.1014 .4+ 12.0.4518.1014 Part of office basic Ost file is 4.23 gigs Not sure but I believe user did close outlook using red x then shut down the program. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:42:50 -0400 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly That's pretty vague. How about including: Version of Outlook Size of PST Did the user shut down Windows without verifying that Outlook was actually closed (it needs some time to write to the PST after you close it), by checking the Task Manager? Does the user have a handheld which hadn't finished synching with Outlook? Some details to help troubleshoot, please! Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: justino garcia To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:17 AM Subject: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly -- Justin IT-TECH
Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly
Anything I do in outlook 2007 Seem to lag Running updated outlook 12.0.6514.5000 sp2 mso 12.0.6529 500 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:55:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Did the user create a PST? Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Outlook 2007 12.0.4518.1014 .4+ 12.0.4518.1014 Part of office basic Ost file is 4.23 gigs Not sure but I believe user did close outlook using red x then shut down the program. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:42:50 -0400 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly That's pretty vague. How about including: Version of Outlook Size of PST Did the user shut down Windows without verifying that Outlook was actually closed (it needs some time to write to the PST after you close it), by checking the Task Manager? Does the user have a handheld which hadn't finished synching with Outlook? Some details to help troubleshoot, please! Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: justino garcia To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:17 AM Subject: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly -- Justin IT-TECH
Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly
It did speed up in safe mode Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:02:17 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Have you tried running Outlook in safe mode to see if that speeds it up? XP: Start Run outlook.exe /safe (note the space between outlook.exe and /safe) Vista/W7: Start Start Search outlook.exe /safe) (same space) Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Anything I do in outlook 2007 Seem to lag Running updated outlook 12.0.6514.5000 sp2 mso 12.0.6529 500 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -- From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:55:59 -0400 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Did the user create a PST? Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly Outlook 2007 12.0.4518.1014 .4+ 12.0.4518.1014 Part of office basic Ost file is 4.23 gigs Not sure but I believe user did close outlook using red x then shut down the program. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:42:50 -0400 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly That's pretty vague. How about including: Version of Outlook Size of PST Did the user shut down Windows without verifying that Outlook was actually closed (it needs some time to write to the PST after you close it), by checking the Task Manager? Does the user have a handheld which hadn't finished synching with Outlook? Some details to help troubleshoot, please! Kathleen Orland Please support me in my efforts: SPCA Friends for Life 2010 Walk-A-Thon http://ontariospca.akaraisin.com/p/kathleenorland.aspx - Original Message - From: justino garcia To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:17 AM Subject: Error in outlook Data file did not close properly -- Justin IT-TECH
Anyone know of hosted remote support
We would like something like remote desktop and logmein but cheap and would allow us to remote to clients pc or offer support. Maybe something opensource ?? Any ideas Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
Re: Anyone know of hosted remote support
How did you deploy over nat? --Original Message-- From: josh.t...@sbcglobal.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues ReplyTo: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone know of hosted remote support Sent: Apr 16, 2010 9:48 PM Tightvnc or ultravnc worked ok for us. --Original Message-- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues ReplyTo: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anyone know of hosted remote support Sent: Apr 16, 2010 8:46 PM We would like something like remote desktop and logmein but cheap and would allow us to remote to clients pc or offer support. Maybe something opensource ?? Any ideas Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
Re: BES Express Requirements
What does it mean know that rims owns alt-n emai? Any bes support for alt-n in the future?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:59:02 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: BES Express Requirements I think it's actually the reverse - it CAN be installed on a server that houses Exchange for small environments but preferred would be a separate server. From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: BES Express Requirements The documentation is unclear to me. Can the new BES Express be installed on a server that does NOT house Exchange 2003? Or does it need to be installed on an Exchange server? Thx smsadm
Re: Email Archive Solutions
Why use sunbelt email archive Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Andrew Levicki and...@levicki.me.uk Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:57:08 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Email Archive Solutions Or you could use the archiving capabilities that come with Exchange 2010 http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/2010/en/us/Archiving-and-Retention.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/2010/en/us/Archiving-and-Retention.aspx Enjoy! On 6 April 2010 01:54, Brent Zalewski bre...@co.sangamon.il.us wrote: We have looked at MXLogic. Http://www.mxlogic.com - McAfee has purchased. No hardware/software to buy. They pull mail from your system to their archive system over internet *From:* Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 05, 2010 11:45 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Email Archive Solutions *Sensitivity:* Confidential All, We are looking to implement an email archiving solution into our environment and would like some suggestions. We currently have one Exchange server running Exchange Server 2003 on a Windows Server 2003 R2 box. At some point we will upgrade to Windows Server 2008 R2 and Exchange 2010. Thanks _ *Cameron Cooper* *Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified* Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki ルビッキー アンドルュー MCITP Enterprise Administrator on Windows Server 2008 MCITP Enterprise Messaging Administrator on Exchange Server 2007 Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) on Windows Server 2003 Cisco Certified Network Associate (CCNA) ITILv3
Outlook 2003 and hosted exchange 2010
Any issue with outlook 2003 and hosted exchange 2010 Also bes express Is bes express for small bussiness? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
Re: Outlook 2003 and hosted exchange 2010
Bess express Free Contacts Cals Emails Is this true Thanks --Original Message-- From: Michael B. Smith To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues ReplyTo: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 and hosted exchange 2010 Sent: Mar 15, 2010 11:47 AM You can install outlook 2007 over top of office 2003. You miss feature content when you go backwards. But as far as I know, all the old features still work. BES/X is for business of any size that don't need the full capabilities of the full BES. It is supported on Exchange servers itself, up to 75 users. More than that require a separate server. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2003 and hosted exchange 2010 Any issue with outlook 2003 and hosted exchange 2010 Also bes express Is bes express for small bussiness? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007
Can sunbelt double take Backup exchange in a virtual enviorment And also ms sql server Is it image backup Or a true replication of the server? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:38:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You can also use the internal Windows Server Backup tool on Server 2008 R2 or Server 2008 Service Pack 2. So you don't HAVE to spend more money. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Quelle surprise John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You have to get a product which is Exchange 2010 aware, whether that's DPM 2010, BackupExec 2010, or my VSS scripts, or any number of other tools. The database format changed in Exchange 2010 and it takes an Exchange-2010-aware backup program to back up Exchange 2010. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Pardon the jump in here Michael. Am I reading the info right that to protect ex2010 you have to have DPM-2010? And since DPM-2010 hasn't been released, for those of us that have adopted DPM, we will have to postpone our ex2010 deplpyment until DPM-2010 is released to protect ex2010? Or did I read that info wrong or do you know how to protect ex2010 with dpm-2007 Thanks Glen. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Exchange 2003 support is sub-par because DPM was designed to work with VSS providers and writers. The Exchange 2003 VSS support was sub-par. DPM shines with Exchange 2007 and Exchange 2010, especially with block-level and real-time restores. It's a great product. I agree with your comments - about ANY piece of software - that you should fully evaluate it and not purchase it just from a sales demo. But Exchange 2003 is old. Very old in computer terms. It was designed and written in 2000-2001. Windows, Exchange, and backup solutions have come very far since then. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 We are looking to replace Backup Exec (generally) and did not find our full replacement in DPM (we had really hoped). We are now using a combination of Acronis and native ntbackup to take care of our Exchange 2003SP2. We'll be evaluating the NetApp snap manager for exchange real soon now. Here is a dose of DPM reality. What I highly recommend to anyone not experienced with DPM (and looking at getting it) is to be sure to implement a full lab environment to assure that what the product actually does will meet your expectations before dropping the $$$. I cannot stress enough that this is NOT a product to buy based on a sales demo or even after a cursory test install/restore. Make sure it works on the exact configuration you have in production at the limits you need, particularly if you will AT ALL be using it with Exchange 2003. The truth of what dpm appears to be: -Cute wrapper around exutil, ntbackup, (etc... for other products); cute because the interface crashes sometimes. -Tight integration with Windows VSS -Some reporting/monitoring and client management tools (rough, some parts better than others) That's it I'm afraid; you could probably emulate 90%+ of the backup and restore functionality with some .cmd/powershell scripts against WMI/WinRM and the task scheduler. That's not meant to be a low blow, but more to say there's certainly no magic here regardless of the slick marketing the DPM team has put together. There are high points: - The PSS team for this product is great which is awesome since it's such a fragile product. - It seems to work better with SQL - I can say it's nearly seamless with Windows file backups BUT, its Exchange integration, particularly with 2003 is amazingly sub-par. The
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007
I am confused how it works It requires no tapes or what?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:53:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Well first off it isn't a Sunbelt product (they're just a reseller) however you can use it to mirror your Exchange or SQL boxes. Be advised that those require additional licensing above and beyond the base software. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Can sunbelt double take Backup exchange in a virtual enviorment And also ms sql server Is it image backup Or a true replication of the server? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:38:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You can also use the internal Windows Server Backup tool on Server 2008 R2 or Server 2008 Service Pack 2. So you don't HAVE to spend more money. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Quelle surprise John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You have to get a product which is Exchange 2010 aware, whether that's DPM 2010, BackupExec 2010, or my VSS scripts, or any number of other tools. The database format changed in Exchange 2010 and it takes an Exchange-2010-aware backup program to back up Exchange 2010. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Pardon the jump in here Michael. Am I reading the info right that to protect ex2010 you have to have DPM-2010? And since DPM-2010 hasn't been released, for those of us that have adopted DPM, we will have to postpone our ex2010 deplpyment until DPM-2010 is released to protect ex2010? Or did I read that info wrong or do you know how to protect ex2010 with dpm-2007 Thanks Glen. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Exchange 2003 support is sub-par because DPM was designed to work with VSS providers and writers. The Exchange 2003 VSS support was sub-par. DPM shines with Exchange 2007 and Exchange 2010, especially with block-level and real-time restores. It's a great product. I agree with your comments - about ANY piece of software - that you should fully evaluate it and not purchase it just from a sales demo. But Exchange 2003 is old. Very old in computer terms. It was designed and written in 2000-2001. Windows, Exchange, and backup solutions have come very far since then. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 We are looking to replace Backup Exec (generally) and did not find our full replacement in DPM (we had really hoped). We are now using a combination of Acronis and native ntbackup to take care of our Exchange 2003SP2. We'll be evaluating the NetApp snap manager for exchange real soon now. Here is a dose of DPM reality. What I highly recommend to anyone not experienced with DPM (and looking at getting it) is to be sure to implement a full lab environment to assure that what the product actually does will meet your expectations before dropping the $$$. I cannot stress enough that this is NOT a product to buy based on a sales demo or even after a cursory test install/restore. Make sure it works on the exact configuration you have in production at the limits you need, particularly if you
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007
So say my exchange server fails It will take over the standby server? Is it very expensive? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:59:11 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It requires another server - physical or virtual (licensing is different) that it replicates to so you have a fully up to date stand by server available. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I am confused how it works It requires no tapes or what?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:53:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Well first off it isn't a Sunbelt product (they're just a reseller) however you can use it to mirror your Exchange or SQL boxes. Be advised that those require additional licensing above and beyond the base software. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Can sunbelt double take Backup exchange in a virtual enviorment And also ms sql server Is it image backup Or a true replication of the server? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:38:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You can also use the internal Windows Server Backup tool on Server 2008 R2 or Server 2008 Service Pack 2. So you don't HAVE to spend more money. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Quelle surprise John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You have to get a product which is Exchange 2010 aware, whether that's DPM 2010, BackupExec 2010, or my VSS scripts, or any number of other tools. The database format changed in Exchange 2010 and it takes an Exchange-2010-aware backup program to back up Exchange 2010. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Pardon the jump in here Michael. Am I reading the info right that to protect ex2010 you have to have DPM-2010? And since DPM-2010 hasn't been released, for those of us that have adopted DPM, we will have to postpone our ex2010 deplpyment until DPM-2010 is released to protect ex2010? Or did I read that info wrong or do you know how to protect ex2010 with dpm-2007 Thanks Glen. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Exchange 2003 support is sub-par because DPM was designed to work with VSS providers and writers. The Exchange 2003 VSS support was sub-par. DPM shines with Exchange 2007 and Exchange 2010, especially with block-level and real-time restores. It's a great product. I agree with your comments - about ANY piece of software - that you should fully evaluate it and not purchase it just from a sales demo. But Exchange 2003 is old. Very old in computer terms. It was designed and written in 2000-2001. Windows, Exchange, and backup solutions have come very far since then. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent:
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007
Thanks just left a voice mail message Sunbelt will call me back Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:05:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It can be configured that way either an automatic failover or manual but there are restrictions. You would have to define expensive, we don't know what your budget is like but I would recommend giving Sunbelt a call and get a demo and some pricing from them. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 So say my exchange server fails It will take over the standby server? Is it very expensive? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:59:11 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It requires another server - physical or virtual (licensing is different) that it replicates to so you have a fully up to date stand by server available. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I am confused how it works It requires no tapes or what?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:53:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Well first off it isn't a Sunbelt product (they're just a reseller) however you can use it to mirror your Exchange or SQL boxes. Be advised that those require additional licensing above and beyond the base software. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Can sunbelt double take Backup exchange in a virtual enviorment And also ms sql server Is it image backup Or a true replication of the server? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:38:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You can also use the internal Windows Server Backup tool on Server 2008 R2 or Server 2008 Service Pack 2. So you don't HAVE to spend more money. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Quelle surprise John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You have to get a product which is Exchange 2010 aware, whether that's DPM 2010, BackupExec 2010, or my VSS scripts, or any number of other tools. The database format changed in Exchange 2010 and it takes an Exchange-2010-aware backup program to back up Exchange 2010. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Pardon the jump in here Michael. Am I reading the info right that to protect ex2010 you have to have DPM-2010? And since DPM-2010 hasn't been released, for those of us that have adopted DPM, we will have to postpone our ex2010 deplpyment until DPM-2010 is released to protect ex2010? Or did I read that info wrong or do you know
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007
This should replace Ntbackup and acronis right? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:05:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It can be configured that way either an automatic failover or manual but there are restrictions. You would have to define expensive, we don't know what your budget is like but I would recommend giving Sunbelt a call and get a demo and some pricing from them. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 So say my exchange server fails It will take over the standby server? Is it very expensive? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:59:11 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It requires another server - physical or virtual (licensing is different) that it replicates to so you have a fully up to date stand by server available. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I am confused how it works It requires no tapes or what?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:53:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Well first off it isn't a Sunbelt product (they're just a reseller) however you can use it to mirror your Exchange or SQL boxes. Be advised that those require additional licensing above and beyond the base software. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Can sunbelt double take Backup exchange in a virtual enviorment And also ms sql server Is it image backup Or a true replication of the server? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:38:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You can also use the internal Windows Server Backup tool on Server 2008 R2 or Server 2008 Service Pack 2. So you don't HAVE to spend more money. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Quelle surprise John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 You have to get a product which is Exchange 2010 aware, whether that's DPM 2010, BackupExec 2010, or my VSS scripts, or any number of other tools. The database format changed in Exchange 2010 and it takes an Exchange-2010-aware backup program to back up Exchange 2010. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Pardon the jump in here Michael. Am I reading the info right that to protect ex2010 you have to have DPM-2010? And since DPM-2010 hasn't been released, for those of us that have adopted DPM, we will have to postpone our ex2010 deplpyment until DPM-2010 is released to protect ex2010? Or did I read that info wrong or do you know how to protect
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007
So what your retation and how long is your backup taking What schedule do you have Just full after 6pm or so?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:19:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I do a full every night - Original Message - From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Mar 15 18:13:17 2010 Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Ok then this begs the question. When backing up Exchange with a full/incremental model, whether onsite using BUEXEC, DPM, etc.. or offsite.. How can you do another backup program and not mess up the incrementals. Only way I could see to do it, would be to do full backups every night using multiple programs at different times, which is not feasible for some of our larger clients. We personally use an imaging program like ShadowProtect, Acronis or Replay and either an offsite program which does the Full/incremental or an onsite program to tape/disk. Greg -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I would never trust my companies email to a single method of backup unless there were no other choice. I would use NT Backup in addition to anything else you can get, it may save your job some day. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 This should replace Ntbackup and acronis right? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:05:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It can be configured that way either an automatic failover or manual but there are restrictions. You would have to define expensive, we don't know what your budget is like but I would recommend giving Sunbelt a call and get a demo and some pricing from them. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 So say my exchange server fails It will take over the standby server? Is it very expensive? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:59:11 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It requires another server - physical or virtual (licensing is different) that it replicates to so you have a fully up to date stand by server available. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I am confused how it works It requires no tapes or what?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:53:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Well first off it isn't a Sunbelt product (they're just a reseller) however you can use it to mirror your Exchange or SQL boxes. Be advised that those require additional licensing above and beyond the base software. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Can sunbelt double take Backup exchange in a virtual enviorment And also ms sql server Is it image backup Or a true replication of the server? Sent via
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007
Sweet and use which software again?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:36:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 3 days retention, my full takes about 6 hrs (70 Gig store) - Original Message - From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com jgarciaitl...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Mar 15 18:35:10 2010 Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 So what your retation and how long is your backup taking What schedule do you have Just full after 6pm or so?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:19:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I do a full every night - Original Message - From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Mar 15 18:13:17 2010 Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Ok then this begs the question. When backing up Exchange with a full/incremental model, whether onsite using BUEXEC, DPM, etc.. or offsite.. How can you do another backup program and not mess up the incrementals. Only way I could see to do it, would be to do full backups every night using multiple programs at different times, which is not feasible for some of our larger clients. We personally use an imaging program like ShadowProtect, Acronis or Replay and either an offsite program which does the Full/incremental or an onsite program to tape/disk. Greg -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I would never trust my companies email to a single method of backup unless there were no other choice. I would use NT Backup in addition to anything else you can get, it may save your job some day. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 This should replace Ntbackup and acronis right? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:05:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It can be configured that way either an automatic failover or manual but there are restrictions. You would have to define expensive, we don't know what your budget is like but I would recommend giving Sunbelt a call and get a demo and some pricing from them. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 So say my exchange server fails It will take over the standby server? Is it very expensive? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:59:11 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It requires another server - physical or virtual (licensing is different) that it replicates to so you have a fully up to date stand by server available. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I am confused how it works It requires no tapes or what?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:53:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Well first off it isn't a Sunbelt product (they're just a reseller) however you can use it to mirror your Exchange or SQL boxes. Be advised that those require additional licensing above and beyond the base software. John W.
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007
130 gigs one hour wow Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:42:31 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 3 days? I do two weeks just in case I have to get something last week. But full backups though. 130 gig in an hour -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 3 days retention, my full takes about 6 hrs (70 Gig store) - Original Message - From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com jgarciaitl...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Mar 15 18:35:10 2010 Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 So what your retation and how long is your backup taking What schedule do you have Just full after 6pm or so?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:19:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I do a full every night - Original Message - From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Mar 15 18:13:17 2010 Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 Ok then this begs the question. When backing up Exchange with a full/incremental model, whether onsite using BUEXEC, DPM, etc.. or offsite.. How can you do another backup program and not mess up the incrementals. Only way I could see to do it, would be to do full backups every night using multiple programs at different times, which is not feasible for some of our larger clients. We personally use an imaging program like ShadowProtect, Acronis or Replay and either an offsite program which does the Full/incremental or an onsite program to tape/disk. Greg -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I would never trust my companies email to a single method of backup unless there were no other choice. I would use NT Backup in addition to anything else you can get, it may save your job some day. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 This should replace Ntbackup and acronis right? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:05:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It can be configured that way either an automatic failover or manual but there are restrictions. You would have to define expensive, we don't know what your budget is like but I would recommend giving Sunbelt a call and get a demo and some pricing from them. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 So say my exchange server fails It will take over the standby server? Is it very expensive? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:59:11 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 It requires another server - physical or virtual (licensing is different) that it replicates to so you have a fully up to date stand by server available. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 I am confused how it works It requires no tapes or what?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:53:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin
Re: +AFs-MARKETING+AF0- RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007
Why didnt microsoft include part of exchange a backup solution that was easy for user to recover from(either a mailbox, email, or store)? I know of keep deleted items but not the same thing. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.com Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:10:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: +AFs-MARKETING+AF0- RE: Backup Softw are for Exchange 2007 Good point (even if 2003 market size is orders of magnitude +AD4- 2007/2010), but why claim support of Ex2003 in the first place when there's no one in the world who would say it's good? Yea, MSFT stock price and all, but just sayin it sucks to deal with :) +AH4-JasonG +AD4- -Original Message- +AD4- From: Michael B. Smith +AFs-mailto:michael+AEA-smithcons.com+AF0- +AD4- Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 16:46 +AD4- To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues +AD4- Subject: +AFs-MARKETING+AF0- RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 +AD4- +AD4- Exchange 2003 support is sub-par because DPM was designed to work with +AD4- VSS providers and writers. The Exchange 2003 VSS support was sub-par. +AD4- +AD4- DPM shines with Exchange 2007 and Exchange 2010, especially with block- +AD4- level and real-time restores. It's a great product. +AD4- +AD4- I agree with your comments - about ANY piece of software - that you +AD4- should fully evaluate it and not purchase it just from a sales demo. +AD4- +AD4- But Exchange 2003 is old. Very old in computer terms. It was designed and +AD4- written in 2000-2001. Windows, Exchange, and backup solutions have come +AD4- very far since then. +AD4- +AD4- Regards, +AD4- +AD4- Michael B. Smith +AD4- Consultant and Exchange MVP +AD4- http://TheEssentialExchange.com +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- -Original Message- +AD4- From: Jason Gurtz +AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0- +AD4- Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:32 PM +AD4- To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues +AD4- Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2007 +AD4- +AD4- We are looking to replace Backup Exec (generally) and did not find our +AD4- full replacement in DPM (we had really hoped). We are now using a +AD4- combination of Acronis and native ntbackup to take care of our Exchange +AD4- 2003SP2. We'll be evaluating the NetApp snap manager for exchange real +AD4- soon now. +AD4- +AD4- Here is a dose of DPM reality. +AD4- +AD4- What I highly recommend to anyone not experienced with DPM (and looking +AD4- at getting it) is to be sure to implement a full lab environment to +AD4- assure that what the product actually does will meet your expectations +AD4- before dropping the +ACQAJAAk-. I cannot stress enough that this is NOT a +AD4- product to buy based on a sales demo or even after a cursory test +AD4- install/restore. +AD4- Make sure it works on the exact configuration you have in production at +AD4- the limits you need, particularly if you will AT ALL be using it with +AD4- Exchange 2003. +AD4- +AD4- The truth of what dpm appears to be: +AD4- +AD4- -Cute wrapper around exutil, ntbackup, (etc... for other products)+ADs- cute +AD4- because the interface crashes sometimes. +AD4- -Tight integration with Windows VSS +AD4- -Some reporting/monitoring and client management tools (rough, some parts +AD4- better than others) +AD4- +AD4- That's it I'm afraid+ADs- you could probably emulate 90+ACU- of the backup and +AD4- restore functionality with some .cmd/powershell scripts against WMI/WinRM +AD4- and the task scheduler. That's not meant to be a low blow, but more to +AD4- say there's certainly no magic here regardless of the slick marketing the +AD4- DPM team has put together. +AD4- +AD4- There are high points: +AD4- - The PSS team for this product is great which is awesome since it's such +AD4- a fragile product. +AD4- - It seems to work better with SQL +AD4- - I can say it's nearly seamless with Windows file backups +AD4- +AD4- BUT, its Exchange integration, particularly with 2003 is amazingly sub- +AD4- par. The respective management of the Exchange and DPM dev teams don't +AD4- and won't get along with each other resulting in the customer being the +AD4- loser+ACE- +AD4- +AD4- The DPM 2010 story is a bit better, adding some nice functionality for +AD4- client/laptop backups and getting rid of several interface annoyances. +AD4- Client backup may be its sweet spot. DPM 2010 has not really addressed +AD4- any Exchange concerns in 2010 and won't be from the communication I can +AD4- see. +AD4- +AD4- If DPM only cost a few hundred bucks there's no way I would've said all +AD4- this. It's a lot more than that, so the lipstick-on-a-pig deserved it. +AD4- Think of WinNT circa 3.1... +AD4- +AD4- Sorry for the rant, but I just can't believe anyone could recommend this +AD4- product after having it in use here going on a year. +AD4- +AD4- Jason +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- -Original Message- +AD4- +AD4- From: Barsodi.John +AFs-mailto:John.Barsodi+AEA-IGT.com+AF0-
Re: Backup Exec and Exchange 2010 Gotcha
How long to backup 60 gig store Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Andrew Levicki and...@levicki.me.uk Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:07:07 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup Exec and Exchange 2010 Gotcha It is true and also you need 64-bit OS and a quad-core or 2 dual-cores on your Bexec media server to use the de-duplication option. http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/342716.htm andrew On 13 March 2010 06:51, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Since there is another Exchange backup thread it may me think to just throw this up for those who use Backup Exec and are looking to go to Exchange 2010. First, if you're running something before Backup Exec 2010, you'll need to upgrade to get support for Exchange 2010. Second, the Exchange management tools are required on the Backup Exec 2010 server. For Exchange 2010 this means you'll need to make sure your Backup Exec 2010 is running a 64bit OS. This one was a gotcha for us since our Backup Exec servers were all 32 bit still. Just a heads up for those on the path to upgrade. Brad -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu
Re: Backup Exec and Exchange 2010 Gotcha
D2D backup Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Andrew Levicki and...@levicki.me.uk Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:07:07 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup Exec and Exchange 2010 Gotcha It is true and also you need 64-bit OS and a quad-core or 2 dual-cores on your Bexec media server to use the de-duplication option. http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/342716.htm andrew On 13 March 2010 06:51, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Since there is another Exchange backup thread it may me think to just throw this up for those who use Backup Exec and are looking to go to Exchange 2010. First, if you're running something before Backup Exec 2010, you'll need to upgrade to get support for Exchange 2010. Second, the Exchange management tools are required on the Backup Exec 2010 server. For Exchange 2010 this means you'll need to make sure your Backup Exec 2010 is running a 64bit OS. This one was a gotcha for us since our Backup Exec servers were all 32 bit still. Just a heads up for those on the path to upgrade. Brad -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu
How to secure 2010
How to secure exchange 2010 Besides firewalls, what else needs to be done? Also can exchange function well in a virtual environment? Thanks Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
Dns services are removed from exchange 2003
We no longer since this moring can see dns services on our exchange 2003 server Anyone got any ideas We belive some malware Or rootkit Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
