Re: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Don Ely]

IronPort does this...

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Simon Butler  wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has support
> for multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I have a client
> that has a single IP address, but three completely independent domains with
> their own Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the current SMTP
> gateway with something that can do LDAP lookups for recipient validation.
>
>
>
> Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
>
> Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren’t too great.
>
>
>
> Anyone know of any others?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon.
>
>
>
> --
> Simon Butler
> MVP: Exchange, MCSE
> Sembee Ltd.
>
> e: si...@sembee.co.uk
> w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
> w: http://www.amset.info/
>
> w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/
>
> Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
> http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for 
> certificates from just $23.99.
> Need a domain for your certificate? 
> http://DomainsForExchange.net/
>
>
>

Re: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Roger Wright]

I would think Postini could be configured this way.

Also, take a look at the Untangle products.


Roger Wright
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Simon Butler  wrote:

> Yes, cost is an issue.
> The current SMTP gateway is an Windows 2003 server running IIS. It has
> Vamsoft ORF installed on it, but the biggest problem is emails to non-valid
> recipients. If I can drop those then the bandwidth saved is considerable.
>
> Therefore given that we are going from a solution that cost less than $1000
> and requires no maintenance, the cost of the replacement solution is very
> sensitive.
>
> The 'Cuda costs close to $7,000 (taking in to account the exchange rate)
> for three years, making the cost per user very high. There are probably less
> than 200 email addresses in total. $35/user for three years compared to
> $5/user one time charge is a hard sell.
>
> A hosted solution is completely out of the question due to the business
> owner's paranoia and to a lesser extent their business type.
>
> Plus I want them to do an Exchange 2010 upgrade, I don't want to wipe out
> the IT budget on buying an appliance!
>
> CanIT Pro looks interesting, until I got to the pricing page. Fill in the
> form. Companies hiding pricing is a real pet peeve of mine. I have seen the
> other side and know what goes on with variable pricing.
>
> Oh and I know I am sounding like a broken record with references to Vamsoft
> ORF, but for the price ($239) I am getting spectacular results.
> http://blog.sembee.co.uk/archive/2009/11/16/112.aspx
>
> Thanks,
> Simon.
>
>
> > From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> > support
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has
> > support for multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I
> have
> > a client that has a single IP address, but three completely independent
> > domains with their own Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the
> > current SMTP gateway with something that can do LDAP lookups for
> > recipient validation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
> >
> > Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone know of any others?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Simon.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Simon Butler
> > MVP: Exchange, MCSE
> > Sembee Ltd.
> >
>
>
>

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Simon Butler]

ASSP is not suitable. 
All of the questions about multiple server support suggest putting ASSP in 
front of the gateway, not replacing it. 

I am aware the requirements are a little odd - alas that goes with the 
territory of being an Exchange MVP - you get asked the really odd stuff. I was 
hoping to find something fairly cheap that would provide what we are missing 
with the current solution. The current solution is about 60% of the way there, 
it is finding the last 40% that is hard. 

What I am going to do now is concentrate on dealing with the LDAP issue. If I 
can find some way of pointing the current application at an LDAP server, but 
the LDAP server is just a proxy to the multiple servers. 

Thanks for all the help everyone. 

Simon. 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
Sent: 23 November 2009 21:49
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

With all those strict requirements I think you are looking at open source.

When we got a quote, CanIT was cheaper than 'cuda, but I can understand
not 
wanting to deal with a sales guy.  I will say that company is better to
deal 
with than most so you may wish to re-consider in this case.

~JasonG

> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 16:23
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
> Yes, cost is an issue.
> The current SMTP gateway is an Windows 2003 server running IIS. It has
> Vamsoft ORF installed on it, but the biggest problem is emails to non-
> valid recipients. If I can drop those then the bandwidth saved is
> considerable.
>
> Therefore given that we are going from a solution that cost less than
> $1000 and requires no maintenance, the cost of the replacement solution
> is very sensitive.
>
> The 'Cuda costs close to $7,000 (taking in to account the exchange rate)
> for three years, making the cost per user very high. There are probably
> less than 200 email addresses in total. $35/user for three years
compared
> to $5/user one time charge is a hard sell.
>
> A hosted solution is completely out of the question due to the business
> owner's paranoia and to a lesser extent their business type.
>
> Plus I want them to do an Exchange 2010 upgrade, I don't want to wipe
out
> the IT budget on buying an appliance!
>
> CanIT Pro looks interesting, until I got to the pricing page. Fill in
the
> form. Companies hiding pricing is a real pet peeve of mine. I have seen
> the other side and know what goes on with variable pricing.
>
> Oh and I know I am sounding like a broken record with references to
> Vamsoft ORF, but for the price ($239) I am getting spectacular results.
> http://blog.sembee.co.uk/archive/2009/11/16/112.aspx
>
> Thanks,
> Simon.
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
> Sent: 23 November 2009 20:57
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
> Since cost is so big an issue (I thought 'cuda was at the low end!)
maybe
> you should check out CanIT Pro.  You can get it as "software only" too
> and
>
> could throw it on an old box if you have that little financial support.
>
> Jason
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 13:58
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP
> domain
> > support
> >
> > Barracuda is well out of the price range.
> >
> > Each server is only supporting about 50 users, to get the per domain
> you
> > need the 400. The cost per user is too high.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was pretty sure Brightmail could do it, but I don't buy anything
from
> > Symantec. I operate a simple policy when it comes to Symantec products
> -
> > if they are installed and there is a problem, the problem is the
> Symantec
> > product. In most cases, the problem goes away when the Symantec
product
> > is removed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Proofpoint - looks good as I could run it on a VM. However no pricing
> > online, that always makes me suspicious. Pricing based on what they
> think
> > you can afford.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any other suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> > Simon.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
> > Sent: 23 November 2009 18:17
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Ralph Smith]

 

"Companies hiding pricing is a real pet peeve of mine. I have seen the
other side and know what goes on with variable pricing."

 

+1

 

Whenever I check out a product and there is no pricing available, I
almost automatically skip over it because I know the price is going to
be too high.

Occasionally I'll fill out the form, am always right that it is too
expensive, and then have to deal with sales calls for a product my
not-for-profit can't afford.  Not worth the hassle.

 

RS


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RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Jason Gurtz]

With all those strict requirements I think you are looking at open source.

When we got a quote, CanIT was cheaper than 'cuda, but I can understand
not 
wanting to deal with a sales guy.  I will say that company is better to
deal 
with than most so you may wish to re-consider in this case.

~JasonG

> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 16:23
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
> Yes, cost is an issue.
> The current SMTP gateway is an Windows 2003 server running IIS. It has
> Vamsoft ORF installed on it, but the biggest problem is emails to non-
> valid recipients. If I can drop those then the bandwidth saved is
> considerable.
>
> Therefore given that we are going from a solution that cost less than
> $1000 and requires no maintenance, the cost of the replacement solution
> is very sensitive.
>
> The 'Cuda costs close to $7,000 (taking in to account the exchange rate)
> for three years, making the cost per user very high. There are probably
> less than 200 email addresses in total. $35/user for three years
compared
> to $5/user one time charge is a hard sell.
>
> A hosted solution is completely out of the question due to the business
> owner's paranoia and to a lesser extent their business type.
>
> Plus I want them to do an Exchange 2010 upgrade, I don't want to wipe
out
> the IT budget on buying an appliance!
>
> CanIT Pro looks interesting, until I got to the pricing page. Fill in
the
> form. Companies hiding pricing is a real pet peeve of mine. I have seen
> the other side and know what goes on with variable pricing.
>
> Oh and I know I am sounding like a broken record with references to
> Vamsoft ORF, but for the price ($239) I am getting spectacular results.
> http://blog.sembee.co.uk/archive/2009/11/16/112.aspx
>
> Thanks,
> Simon.
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
> Sent: 23 November 2009 20:57
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
> Since cost is so big an issue (I thought 'cuda was at the low end!)
maybe
> you should check out CanIT Pro.  You can get it as "software only" too
> and
>
> could throw it on an old box if you have that little financial support.
>
> Jason
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 13:58
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP
> domain
> > support
> >
> > Barracuda is well out of the price range.
> >
> > Each server is only supporting about 50 users, to get the per domain
> you
> > need the 400. The cost per user is too high.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was pretty sure Brightmail could do it, but I don't buy anything
from
> > Symantec. I operate a simple policy when it comes to Symantec products
> -
> > if they are installed and there is a problem, the problem is the
> Symantec
> > product. In most cases, the problem goes away when the Symantec
product
> > is removed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Proofpoint - looks good as I could run it on a VM. However no pricing
> > online, that always makes me suspicious. Pricing based on what they
> think
> > you can afford.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any other suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> > Simon.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
> > Sent: 23 November 2009 18:17
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP
> domain
> > support
> >
> >
> >
> > Barracuda can configure LDAP lookups per domain.  I don't have your
> > particular setup, but each domain is configured independently.  I
don't
> > know why you wouldn't be able to point to an appropriate DC in each
> > domain.  A quick call to pre-sales support should answer the question
> > definitively.
> >
> >
> >
> > RS
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> > support
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has
> > support for multipl

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Simon Butler]

Yes, cost is an issue. 
The current SMTP gateway is an Windows 2003 server running IIS. It has Vamsoft 
ORF installed on it, but the biggest problem is emails to non-valid recipients. 
If I can drop those then the bandwidth saved is considerable. 

Therefore given that we are going from a solution that cost less than $1000 and 
requires no maintenance, the cost of the replacement solution is very 
sensitive.  

The 'Cuda costs close to $7,000 (taking in to account the exchange rate) for 
three years, making the cost per user very high. There are probably less than 
200 email addresses in total. $35/user for three years compared to $5/user one 
time charge is a hard sell. 

A hosted solution is completely out of the question due to the business owner's 
paranoia and to a lesser extent their business type. 

Plus I want them to do an Exchange 2010 upgrade, I don't want to wipe out the 
IT budget on buying an appliance!

CanIT Pro looks interesting, until I got to the pricing page. Fill in the form. 
Companies hiding pricing is a real pet peeve of mine. I have seen the other 
side and know what goes on with variable pricing. 

Oh and I know I am sounding like a broken record with references to Vamsoft 
ORF, but for the price ($239) I am getting spectacular results. 
http://blog.sembee.co.uk/archive/2009/11/16/112.aspx 

Thanks,
Simon.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
Sent: 23 November 2009 20:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Since cost is so big an issue (I thought 'cuda was at the low end!) maybe 
you should check out CanIT Pro.  You can get it as "software only" too and

could throw it on an old box if you have that little financial support.

Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 13:58
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
> Barracuda is well out of the price range.
>
> Each server is only supporting about 50 users, to get the per domain you
> need the 400. The cost per user is too high.
>
>
>
> I was pretty sure Brightmail could do it, but I don't buy anything from
> Symantec. I operate a simple policy when it comes to Symantec products -
> if they are installed and there is a problem, the problem is the
Symantec
> product. In most cases, the problem goes away when the Symantec product
> is removed.
>
>
>
> Proofpoint - looks good as I could run it on a VM. However no pricing
> online, that always makes me suspicious. Pricing based on what they
think
> you can afford.
>
>
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> Simon.
>
>
>
> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
> Sent: 23 November 2009 18:17
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
>
>
> Barracuda can configure LDAP lookups per domain.  I don't have your
> particular setup, but each domain is configured independently.  I don't
> know why you wouldn't be able to point to an appropriate DC in each
> domain.  A quick call to pre-sales support should answer the question
> definitively.
>
>
>
> RS
>
>
>
> From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has
> support for multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I
have
> a client that has a single IP address, but three completely independent
> domains with their own Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the
> current SMTP gateway with something that can do LDAP lookups for
> recipient validation.
>
>
>
> Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
>
> Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great.
>
>
>
> Anyone know of any others?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon.
>
>
>
> --
> Simon Butler
> MVP: Exchange, MCSE
> Sembee Ltd.
>
> e: si...@sembee.co.uk
> w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
> w: http://www.amset.info/
>
> w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/
>
> Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile
5.0?
> http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
> Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/
>
>

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Barsodi.John]

Perhaps look at open source?  ASSP fit the bill?

Thanks,
JB

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support


Thanks - I was just curious since I use the product myself.  I will agree that 
attempting to reach them by phone is difficult, and they are not overly 
responsive on the forums - definite red flags.  The couple of times I had 
problems I initiated a support request using their web form and the problem was 
fixed within an hour each time.


From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

The support forums are just full of dissatisfied customers. Mainly about 
problems contacting support.

Now I know that is mainly what happens in support forums but when you see the 
same kind of complaints over and over again, it does tend to make you think 
twice.

As I said in a response to another posting - if Vamsoft ORF supported multiple 
domains, this question wouldn't have been asked. I have now seen it kill a spam 
problem stone dead on multiple sites - as in straight cut off, users notice the 
spam has gone etc, with no reported false positives.

Simon.

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: 23 November 2009 19:46
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Just wondering if you recall where you saw the unfavorable reviews for 
SpamTitan?
I am running that as a VM here with about 200 mailboxes and over the last few 
years I've had few problems and good results.
Two support incidents were fixed remotely by their tech support.  I am running 
a single machine (non-clustered) with only one domain and one mail server.

Ralph

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Hello,
Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has support for 
multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I have a client that has 
a single IP address, but three completely independent domains with their own 
Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the current SMTP gateway with 
something that can do LDAP lookups for recipient validation.

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great.

Anyone know of any others?

Thanks,
Simon.

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/
w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

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RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Jason Gurtz]

Since cost is so big an issue (I thought 'cuda was at the low end!) maybe 
you should check out CanIT Pro.  You can get it as "software only" too and

could throw it on an old box if you have that little financial support.

Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 13:58
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
> Barracuda is well out of the price range.
>
> Each server is only supporting about 50 users, to get the per domain you
> need the 400. The cost per user is too high.
>
>
>
> I was pretty sure Brightmail could do it, but I don't buy anything from
> Symantec. I operate a simple policy when it comes to Symantec products -
> if they are installed and there is a problem, the problem is the
Symantec
> product. In most cases, the problem goes away when the Symantec product
> is removed.
>
>
>
> Proofpoint - looks good as I could run it on a VM. However no pricing
> online, that always makes me suspicious. Pricing based on what they
think
> you can afford.
>
>
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> Simon.
>
>
>
> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
> Sent: 23 November 2009 18:17
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
>
>
> Barracuda can configure LDAP lookups per domain.  I don't have your
> particular setup, but each domain is configured independently.  I don't
> know why you wouldn't be able to point to an appropriate DC in each
> domain.  A quick call to pre-sales support should answer the question
> definitively.
>
>
>
> RS
>
>
>
> From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
> support
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has
> support for multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I
have
> a client that has a single IP address, but three completely independent
> domains with their own Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the
> current SMTP gateway with something that can do LDAP lookups for
> recipient validation.
>
>
>
> Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
>
> Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great.
>
>
>
> Anyone know of any others?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon.
>
>
>
> --
> Simon Butler
> MVP: Exchange, MCSE
> Sembee Ltd.
>
> e: si...@sembee.co.uk
> w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
> w: http://www.amset.info/
>
> w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/
>
> Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile
5.0?
> http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
> Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/
>
>

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Ralph Smith]

 

Thanks - I was just curious since I use the product myself.  I will
agree that attempting to reach them by phone is difficult, and they are
not overly responsive on the forums - definite red flags.  The couple of
times I had problems I initiated a support request using their web form
and the problem was fixed within an hour each time.  

 



From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

The support forums are just full of dissatisfied customers. Mainly about
problems contacting support. 

 

Now I know that is mainly what happens in support forums but when you
see the same kind of complaints over and over again, it does tend to
make you think twice. 

 

As I said in a response to another posting - if Vamsoft ORF supported
multiple domains, this question wouldn't have been asked. I have now
seen it kill a spam problem stone dead on multiple sites - as in
straight cut off, users notice the spam has gone etc, with no reported
false positives. 

 

Simon. 

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: 23 November 2009 19:46
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

Just wondering if you recall where you saw the unfavorable reviews for
SpamTitan?

I am running that as a VM here with about 200 mailboxes and over the
last few years I've had few problems and good results.

Two support incidents were fixed remotely by their tech support.  I am
running a single machine (non-clustered) with only one domain and one
mail server.

 

Ralph

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

Hello,

Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has
support for multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I
have a client that has a single IP address, but three completely
independent domains with their own Exchange servers behind it. I need to
replace the current SMTP gateway with something that can do LDAP lookups
for recipient validation. 

 

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak. 

Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great. 

 

Anyone know of any others?

 

Thanks,

Simon. 

 

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Sembee Ltd.

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Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ 

 

 

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RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Simon Butler]

The support forums are just full of dissatisfied customers. Mainly about 
problems contacting support.

Now I know that is mainly what happens in support forums but when you see the 
same kind of complaints over and over again, it does tend to make you think 
twice.

As I said in a response to another posting - if Vamsoft ORF supported multiple 
domains, this question wouldn't have been asked. I have now seen it kill a spam 
problem stone dead on multiple sites - as in straight cut off, users notice the 
spam has gone etc, with no reported false positives.

Simon.

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: 23 November 2009 19:46
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Just wondering if you recall where you saw the unfavorable reviews for 
SpamTitan?
I am running that as a VM here with about 200 mailboxes and over the last few 
years I've had few problems and good results.
Two support incidents were fixed remotely by their tech support.  I am running 
a single machine (non-clustered) with only one domain and one mail server.

Ralph

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Hello,
Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has support for 
multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I have a client that has 
a single IP address, but three completely independent domains with their own 
Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the current SMTP gateway with 
something that can do LDAP lookups for recipient validation.

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great.

Anyone know of any others?

Thanks,
Simon.

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/
w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
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RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Simon Butler]

I am going by the specification on their own web page.
There is no check mark next to per domain settings.
Even the 300 is pushing it on a cost per user basis.

If I could get multiple IP addresses in this location I would just use three 
separate machines and a copy of Vamsoft ORF, which is my usual anti spam 
solution. However that doesn't support multiple LDAP, which is a pity as it is 
cheap and has been highly effective for my clients.

Thanks,
Simon.


From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
Sent: 23 November 2009 19:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Hmmm.  We have a 300 and the LDAP settings are configurable per domain.  
Perhaps the 400's "per domain" features have to do with delegated 
administration rather than recipient filtering?  If the 300 is in the price 
range it might be worth a call to Barracuda.  We've also had our 300 for going 
on 4 years, so maybe things have changed over time.

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Barracuda is well out of the price range.
Each server is only supporting about 50 users, to get the per domain you need 
the 400. The cost per user is too high.

I was pretty sure Brightmail could do it, but I don't buy anything from 
Symantec. I operate a simple policy when it comes to Symantec products - if 
they are installed and there is a problem, the problem is the Symantec product. 
In most cases, the problem goes away when the Symantec product is removed.

Proofpoint - looks good as I could run it on a VM. However no pricing online, 
that always makes me suspicious. Pricing based on what they think you can 
afford.

Any other suggestions?

Simon.

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
Sent: 23 November 2009 18:17
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Barracuda can configure LDAP lookups per domain.  I don't have your particular 
setup, but each domain is configured independently.  I don't know why you 
wouldn't be able to point to an appropriate DC in each domain.  A quick call to 
pre-sales support should answer the question definitively.

RS

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Hello,
Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has support for 
multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I have a client that has 
a single IP address, but three completely independent domains with their own 
Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the current SMTP gateway with 
something that can do LDAP lookups for recipient validation.

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great.

Anyone know of any others?

Thanks,
Simon.

--
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MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
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RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Ralph Smith]

Just wondering if you recall where you saw the unfavorable reviews for
SpamTitan?

I am running that as a VM here with about 200 mailboxes and over the
last few years I've had few problems and good results.

Two support incidents were fixed remotely by their tech support.  I am
running a single machine (non-clustered) with only one domain and one
mail server.

 

Ralph

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

Hello,

Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has
support for multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I
have a client that has a single IP address, but three completely
independent domains with their own Exchange servers behind it. I need to
replace the current SMTP gateway with something that can do LDAP lookups
for recipient validation. 

 

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak. 

Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great. 

 

Anyone know of any others?

 

Thanks,

Simon. 

 

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/

w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile
5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ 

 


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RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Richard Stovall]

Hmmm.  We have a 300 and the LDAP settings are configurable per domain.
Perhaps the 400's "per domain" features have to do with delegated
administration rather than recipient filtering?  If the 300 is in the
price range it might be worth a call to Barracuda.  We've also had our
300 for going on 4 years, so maybe things have changed over time.

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

Barracuda is well out of the price range. 

Each server is only supporting about 50 users, to get the per domain you
need the 400. The cost per user is too high. 

 

I was pretty sure Brightmail could do it, but I don't buy anything from
Symantec. I operate a simple policy when it comes to Symantec products -
if they are installed and there is a problem, the problem is the
Symantec product. In most cases, the problem goes away when the Symantec
product is removed. 

 

Proofpoint - looks good as I could run it on a VM. However no pricing
online, that always makes me suspicious. Pricing based on what they
think you can afford. 

 

Any other suggestions?

 

Simon. 

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: 23 November 2009 18:17
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

Barracuda can configure LDAP lookups per domain.  I don't have your
particular setup, but each domain is configured independently.  I don't
know why you wouldn't be able to point to an appropriate DC in each
domain.  A quick call to pre-sales support should answer the question
definitively.

 

RS

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

Hello,

Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has
support for multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I
have a client that has a single IP address, but three completely
independent domains with their own Exchange servers behind it. I need to
replace the current SMTP gateway with something that can do LDAP lookups
for recipient validation. 

 

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak. 

Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great. 

 

Anyone know of any others?

 

Thanks,

Simon. 

 

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/

w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile
5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ 

 

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Simon Butler]

Barracuda is well out of the price range.
Each server is only supporting about 50 users, to get the per domain you need 
the 400. The cost per user is too high.

I was pretty sure Brightmail could do it, but I don't buy anything from 
Symantec. I operate a simple policy when it comes to Symantec products - if 
they are installed and there is a problem, the problem is the Symantec product. 
In most cases, the problem goes away when the Symantec product is removed.

Proofpoint - looks good as I could run it on a VM. However no pricing online, 
that always makes me suspicious. Pricing based on what they think you can 
afford.

Any other suggestions?

Simon.

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
Sent: 23 November 2009 18:17
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Barracuda can configure LDAP lookups per domain.  I don't have your particular 
setup, but each domain is configured independently.  I don't know why you 
wouldn't be able to point to an appropriate DC in each domain.  A quick call to 
pre-sales support should answer the question definitively.

RS

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Hello,
Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has support for 
multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I have a client that has 
a single IP address, but three completely independent domains with their own 
Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the current SMTP gateway with 
something that can do LDAP lookups for recipient validation.

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great.

Anyone know of any others?

Thanks,
Simon.

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/
w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/<http://certificatesforexchange.com/> for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/<http://domainsforexchange.net/>

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Richard Stovall]

Barracuda can configure LDAP lookups per domain.  I don't have your
particular setup, but each domain is configured independently.  I don't
know why you wouldn't be able to point to an appropriate DC in each
domain.  A quick call to pre-sales support should answer the question
definitively.

 

RS

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

Hello,

Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has
support for multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I
have a client that has a single IP address, but three completely
independent domains with their own Exchange servers behind it. I need to
replace the current SMTP gateway with something that can do LDAP lookups
for recipient validation. 

 

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak. 

Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great. 

 

Anyone know of any others?

 

Thanks,

Simon. 

 

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/

w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile
5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ 

 

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Kennedy, Jim]

Yes Cuda does because you setup the LDAP on a per domain basis. Which in 
thinking about it I would bet any appliance that supports multiple domains will 
do different LDAP servers.



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Brightmail does.

And I'm pretty sure Barracuda does as well.

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Proofpoint does.

Thanks,
JB

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Hello,
Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has support for 
multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I have a client that has 
a single IP address, but three completely independent domains with their own 
Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the current SMTP gateway with 
something that can do LDAP lookups for recipient validation.

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great.

Anyone know of any others?

Thanks,
Simon.

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/
w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/<http://certificatesforexchange.com/> for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/<http://domainsforexchange.net/>

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Damien Solodow]

Brightmail does.

 

And I'm pretty sure Barracuda does as well.

 

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

Proofpoint does. 

 

Thanks,

JB

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain
support

 

Hello,

Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has
support for multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I
have a client that has a single IP address, but three completely
independent domains with their own Exchange servers behind it. I need to
replace the current SMTP gateway with something that can do LDAP lookups
for recipient validation. 

 

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak. 

Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great. 

 

Anyone know of any others?

 

Thanks,

Simon. 

 

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/

w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile
5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ 

 

RE: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

[Barsodi.John]

Proofpoint does.

Thanks,
JB

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Anti spam Appliance / Application with Multiple LDAP domain support

Hello,
Does anyone know of any anti spam application or appliance that has support for 
multiple independent LDAP lookups at the domain level? I have a client that has 
a single IP address, but three completely independent domains with their own 
Exchange servers behind it. I need to replace the current SMTP gateway with 
something that can do LDAP lookups for recipient validation.

Mail Foundry can do it, but their European support is rather weak.
Spam Titan can also do it, but the reviews aren't too great.

Anyone know of any others?

Thanks,
Simon.

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Sembee Ltd.

e: si...@sembee.co.uk
w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
w: http://www.amset.info/
w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/