RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-14 Thread Ray Zorz

The names ring a bell once you name them, but I'd be hardpressed to name
them on my own. 

-Original Message-
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


How about Ronaldo...or Beckham (the guy who married one of the Spice
girls) or Maradonna? I'm a hockey fan through and through and I've heard
of those guys...and then there is that goalie from the US who wears his
hair in dreadsdunno his name though.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I don't know any soccer stars other than Pele. 

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I couldn't really tell you the name of any American
baseball/'football'/basketball star other than the obvious one like
Michael Jordan or that fat fscker The Washing Machine (or Fridge, or
Dishwasher, or whatever his name was).

-Original Message-
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 16:28
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Are you serious Ray?  Football (soccer) stars make gazillions in
Europe!!! And they are bigger stars worldwide than the North American
baseball/football/basketball stars.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer may be the most played youth sport in the US.  I know one of the
local "travelling teams" (13-yr olds) went to Holland to play some youth
teams there. Not sure of the results. 

Anyway, you're starting to see the results, and hopefully it'll
continue. Unfortunately, our very best athletes still turn to the "money
sports" - football, basketball, maybe baseball. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women
and kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one wher

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-14 Thread Steve Ens

How about Ronaldo...or Beckham (the guy who married one of the Spice girls)
or Maradonna? I'm a hockey fan through and through and I've heard of those
guys...and then there is that goalie from the US who wears his hair in
dreadsdunno his name though.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I don't know any soccer stars other than Pele. 

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I couldn't really tell you the name of any American
baseball/'football'/basketball star other than the obvious one like Michael
Jordan or that fat fscker The Washing Machine (or Fridge, or Dishwasher, or
whatever his name was).

-Original Message-
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 16:28
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Are you serious Ray?  Football (soccer) stars make gazillions in Europe!!!
And they are bigger stars worldwide than the North American
baseball/football/basketball stars.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer may be the most played youth sport in the US.  I know one of the
local "travelling teams" (13-yr olds) went to Holland to play some youth
teams there. Not sure of the results. 

Anyway, you're starting to see the results, and hopefully it'll continue.
Unfortunately, our very best athletes still turn to the "money sports" -
football, basketball, maybe baseball. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women and
kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say I
am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me that
over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Ray Zorz

I don't know any soccer stars other than Pele. 

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I couldn't really tell you the name of any American
baseball/'football'/basketball star other than the obvious one like
Michael Jordan or that fat fscker The Washing Machine (or Fridge, or
Dishwasher, or whatever his name was).

-Original Message-
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 16:28
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Are you serious Ray?  Football (soccer) stars make gazillions in
Europe!!! And they are bigger stars worldwide than the North American
baseball/football/basketball stars.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer may be the most played youth sport in the US.  I know one of the
local "travelling teams" (13-yr olds) went to Holland to play some youth
teams there. Not sure of the results. 

Anyway, you're starting to see the results, and hopefully it'll
continue. Unfortunately, our very best athletes still turn to the "money
sports" - football, basketball, maybe baseball. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women
and kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Ray Zorz

I'll take your word for it salarywise. But they'd have to live overseas.
And being a worldwide star except in your own country isn't necessarily
appealing.  

I don't have a good answer.   

-Original Message-
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Are you serious Ray?  Football (soccer) stars make gazillions in
Europe!!! And they are bigger stars worldwide than the North American
baseball/football/basketball stars.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer may be the most played youth sport in the US.  I know one of the
local "travelling teams" (13-yr olds) went to Holland to play some youth
teams there. Not sure of the results. 

Anyway, you're starting to see the results, and hopefully it'll
continue. Unfortunately, our very best athletes still turn to the "money
sports" - football, basketball, maybe baseball. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women
and kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse wi

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Siegfried Weber

Nope. But try to search for "Logon Credentials". Should bring up several
pointer.



> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:08 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Do you have a kb that could point one of our developers in the right
> direction? I just got a quote from messageware and ..ouch.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:08 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Well, as I mentioned. A cheapskate solution could be a custom
developed
> ActiveX control to accomplish the same.
> 
> BTDT and it's not that hard especially MSDN and the MSKB has all info
> you need.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:44 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > Thanks for everbody's input, it is greatly appreciated. We had been
> > looking at the messageware guys product but have been putting it off
> > trying to find an alternative solution.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one
IE
> > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can
get
> > back
> > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> > >
> > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> > configured
> > > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> > your
> > > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> > knows
> > > the url to your mailbox.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL P

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Neil Hobson

I couldn't really tell you the name of any American
baseball/'football'/basketball star other than the obvious one like
Michael Jordan or that fat fscker The Washing Machine (or Fridge, or
Dishwasher, or whatever his name was).

-Original Message-
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 16:28
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Are you serious Ray?  Football (soccer) stars make gazillions in
Europe!!! And they are bigger stars worldwide than the North American
baseball/football/basketball stars.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer may be the most played youth sport in the US.  I know one of the
local "travelling teams" (13-yr olds) went to Holland to play some youth
teams there. Not sure of the results. 

Anyway, you're starting to see the results, and hopefully it'll
continue. Unfortunately, our very best athletes still turn to the "money
sports" - football, basketball, maybe baseball. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women
and kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> >

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Steve Ens

Are you serious Ray?  Football (soccer) stars make gazillions in Europe!!!
And they are bigger stars worldwide than the North American
baseball/football/basketball stars.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer may be the most played youth sport in the US.  I know one of the
local "travelling teams" (13-yr olds) went to Holland to play some youth
teams there. Not sure of the results. 

Anyway, you're starting to see the results, and hopefully it'll continue.
Unfortunately, our very best athletes still turn to the "money sports" -
football, basketball, maybe baseball. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women and
kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say I
am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me that
over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > >

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

Do you have a kb that could point one of our developers in the right direction? I just 
got a quote from messageware and ..ouch.

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Well, as I mentioned. A cheapskate solution could be a custom developed
ActiveX control to accomplish the same.

BTDT and it's not that hard especially MSDN and the MSKB has all info
you need.



> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:44 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Thanks for everbody's input, it is greatly appreciated. We had been
> looking at the messageware guys product but have been putting it off
> trying to find an alternative solution.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:53 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
you're
> right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> basic/clear text authentication.
> 
> As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
not.
> I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at
> the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> 
> The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
control
> based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
some
> kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will
> also not work ;-)
> 
> Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> >
> > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post
as
> > in 'after' applying sp2.
> >
> > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > process as requested on the screen.
> >
> > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
Denied"
> > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA
> > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to
> > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> History.
> >
> > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
> > postSP2 fix)?
> >
> > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
window
> > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE
> > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get
> back
> > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> >
> > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> configured
> > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> your
> > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> knows
> > the url to your mailbox.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > I attribute that to poor English. 
> > >
> > > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand
> it)
> >
> > > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates
> in
> > > Windows2000 and .Net.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> > &

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Precht, David

Ouch...


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 04:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say I
am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me that
over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff 
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one
IE
> > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can
get
> > back
> > > into the same mailbox without getting an aut

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Ray Zorz

Soccer may be the most played youth sport in the US.  I know one of the
local "travelling teams" (13-yr olds) went to Holland to play some youth
teams there. Not sure of the results. 

Anyway, you're starting to see the results, and hopefully it'll
continue.  Unfortunately, our very best athletes still turn to the
"money sports" - football, basketball, maybe baseball. 

-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women
and kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff 
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Siegfried Weber

Sorry, didn't want to offend you.

I just wanted to point out that those who might not want to spend the $$
to buy the IMHO pretty good MessageWare product could roll their own. I
know a lot of companies think it's less expensive unless they figured
out that they're lacking the knowledge to do it in a timely manner ;-)



> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:22 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> I'm not a cheapskate...I have no problem spending company money;)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:08 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Well, as I mentioned. A cheapskate solution could be a custom
developed
> ActiveX control to accomplish the same.
> 
> BTDT and it's not that hard especially MSDN and the MSKB has all info
> you need.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:44 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > Thanks for everbody's input, it is greatly appreciated. We had been
> > looking at the messageware guys product but have been putting it off
> > trying to find an alternative solution.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one
IE
> > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can
get
> > back
> > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> > >
> > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> > configured
> > > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> > your
> > > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> > knows
> >

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

I'm not a cheapskate...I have no problem spending company money;)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Well, as I mentioned. A cheapskate solution could be a custom developed
ActiveX control to accomplish the same.

BTDT and it's not that hard especially MSDN and the MSKB has all info
you need.



> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:44 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Thanks for everbody's input, it is greatly appreciated. We had been
> looking at the messageware guys product but have been putting it off
> trying to find an alternative solution.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:53 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
you're
> right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> basic/clear text authentication.
> 
> As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
not.
> I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at
> the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> 
> The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
control
> based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
some
> kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will
> also not work ;-)
> 
> Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> >
> > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post
as
> > in 'after' applying sp2.
> >
> > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > process as requested on the screen.
> >
> > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
Denied"
> > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA
> > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to
> > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> History.
> >
> > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
> > postSP2 fix)?
> >
> > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
window
> > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE
> > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get
> back
> > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> >
> > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> configured
> > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> your
> > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> knows
> > the url to your mailbox.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > I attribute that to poor English. 
> > >
> > > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand
> it)
> >
> > > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates
> in
> > > Windows2000 and .Net.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Origin

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Siegfried Weber

Well, as I mentioned. A cheapskate solution could be a custom developed
ActiveX control to accomplish the same.

BTDT and it's not that hard especially MSDN and the MSKB has all info
you need.



> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:44 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Thanks for everbody's input, it is greatly appreciated. We had been
> looking at the messageware guys product but have been putting it off
> trying to find an alternative solution.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:53 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
you're
> right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> basic/clear text authentication.
> 
> As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
not.
> I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at
> the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> 
> The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
control
> based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
some
> kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will
> also not work ;-)
> 
> Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> >
> > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post
as
> > in 'after' applying sp2.
> >
> > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > process as requested on the screen.
> >
> > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
Denied"
> > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA
> > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to
> > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> History.
> >
> > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
> > postSP2 fix)?
> >
> > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
window
> > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE
> > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get
> back
> > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> >
> > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> configured
> > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> your
> > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> knows
> > the url to your mailbox.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > I attribute that to poor English. 
> > >
> > > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand
> it)
> >
> > > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates
> in
> > > Windows2000 and .Net.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> &

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

Thanks for everbody's input, it is greatly appreciated. We had been looking at the 
messageware guys product but have been putting it off trying to find an alternative 
solution.

Cheers

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and you're
right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
basic/clear text authentication.

As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some not.
I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at
the restarted. But you can't count on this.

The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX control
based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that some
kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will
also not work ;-)

Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> 
> Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post as
> in 'after' applying sp2.
> 
> I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> process as requested on the screen.
> 
> By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access Denied"
> (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA
> leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to
> regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
History.
> 
> Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> 
> William
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
> postSP2 fix)?
> 
> It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff window
> telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE
> window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get
back
> into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> 
> Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
configured
> that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
your
> mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
knows
> the url to your mailbox.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > I attribute that to poor English. 
> >
> > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand
it)
> 
> > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates
in
> > Windows2000 and .Net.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > Please help here, Siegfried.
> > >
> > > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> > iexplore.exe
> > > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is
no
> > real
> > > logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither
> 5.5
> >
> > > nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel
IE
> > has
> > > opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the o

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Siegfried Weber

No matter what North Americans believe about soccer. American Football
is a game for real men :-)) Even in Germany a league exists ;-)



> -Original Message-
> From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between
an
> elbow and a foot!
> 
> BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for
women
> and
> kids. The Argentinians would agree!
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know
our
> feet from our elbows.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> 
> Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
> Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
> Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you
say
> I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
> that over and over again...
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > WWII all over again...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> >  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> > >
> > > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> > >
> > > Go Poland!
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> > you're
> > > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > > basic/clear text authentication.
> > >
> > > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff,
some
> > not.
> > > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
> at
> > > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> > >
> > > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> > control
> > > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> > some
> > > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
> will
> > > also not work ;-)
> > >
> > > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > > >
> > > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
> post
> > as
> > >
> > > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > > >
> > > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the
logoff
> > > > process as requested on the screen.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Siegfried Weber

Nope and nope. Do you know how ridiculous it is to pool early in the
morning to put a towel on the sun-loungers?

BTW, I've never been at Ballermann 6 either.



> -Original Message-
> From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:37 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Siegfried,
> 
> Do you put your towel on the sun-loungers by the pool when you go on
> holiday? Or do you own a pair of lederhosen? I believe these are the
UN
> tests to determine German nationality! ;-)
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 13 June 2002 09:49
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> 
> Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
> Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
> Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you
say
> I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
> that over and over again...
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > WWII all over again...
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> >  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> > >
> > > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> > >
> > > Go Poland!
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> > you're
> > > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > > basic/clear text authentication.
> > >
> > > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff,
some
> > not.
> > > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
> at
> > > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> > >
> > > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> > control
> > > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> > some
> > > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
> will
> > > also not work ;-)
> > >
> > > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > > >
> > > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
> post
> > as
> > >
> > > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > > >
> > > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the
logoff
> > > > process as requested on the screen.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> > Denied"
> > >
> > > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
> OWA
> >
> > > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am
able
> to
> >
> > > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics

That would make sense in Canada.  Box lacrosse makes hockey seem like a
sissy sport.


-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women
and kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > 


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RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics

I thought he watches that game that puts people to sleep... What was it?
Baseball.  Ya...

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


LOL!  I only mentioned it because I know that Ed C doesn't subscribe to
this list, and we all know how he loves his soccer...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 09:53
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> >

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)

Disagree, I've seen the NHL - those guys know the difference between an
elbow and a foot!

BTW I was told the North Americans believe "soccer" is a game for women and
kids. The Argentinians would agree!

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *al

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Neil Hobson

LOL!  I only mentioned it because I know that Ed C doesn't subscribe to
this list, and we all know how he loves his soccer...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 09:53
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff 
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)

Siegfried,

Do you put your towel on the sun-loungers by the pool when you go on
holiday? Or do you own a pair of lederhosen? I believe these are the UN
tests to determine German nationality! ;-)

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2002 09:49
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff 
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one
IE
> > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can
get
> > back
> > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> > >
> > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they r

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics

Siegfried was being considerate of us North Americans who don't know our
feet from our elbows.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA



Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one
IE
> > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can
get
> > back
> > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> > >
> > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> > configured
> > > that you cannot close the browser. In this c

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-13 Thread Neil Hobson


Soccer?? You mean football, the game played with the foot?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 June 2002 00:18
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Force Logoff of OWA
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff 
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one
IE
> > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can
get
> > back
> > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> > >
> > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> > configured
> > > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> > your
> > > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> > knows
> > > the url to your mailbox.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Ray Zorz

Hey!!!

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It's the same with .Net build 3590.

Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.

Go Poland!

William

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and you're
right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
basic/clear text authentication.

As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some not.
I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at
the restarted. But you can't count on this.

The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX control
based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that some
kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will
also not work ;-)

Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> 
> Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post as

> in 'after' applying sp2.
> 
> I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> process as requested on the screen.
> 
> By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access Denied"

> (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA
> leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to 
> regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
History.
> 
> Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> 
> William
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
> postSP2 fix)?
> 
> It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff window
> telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE 
> window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get
back
> into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> 
> Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
configured
> that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
your
> mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
knows
> the url to your mailbox.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > I attribute that to poor English. 
> >
> > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand
it)
> 
> > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates
in
> > Windows2000 and .Net.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > Please help here, Siegfried.
> > >
> > > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> > iexplore.exe
> > > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is
no
> > real
> > > logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither
> 5.5
> >
> > > nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authe

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Kurt

Well, at least in the soccer stadium in Japan...

| -Original Message-
| From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 16:14
| To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
| Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
|
|
| WWII all over again...
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
| To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
| Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
|
|
|  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
|
| 
|
| > -Original Message-
| > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
| > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
| > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
| >
| > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
| >
| > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
| >
| > Go Poland!
| >
| > William
| >
| > -Original Message-
| > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
| > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
| > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
| >
| >
| > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
| you're
| > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
| > basic/clear text authentication.
| >
| > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
| not.
| > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got
| imaged back at
| > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
| >
| > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
| > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
| control
| > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
| some
| > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA
| 2000 will
| > also not work ;-)
| >
| > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
| >
| > 
| >
| > > -Original Message-
| > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
| > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
| > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
| > >
| > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
| > >
| > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I
| meant post
| as
| >
| > > in 'after' applying sp2.
| > >
| > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
| > > process as requested on the screen.
| > >
| > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
| Denied"
| >
| > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after
| closing OWA
|
| > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I
| am able to
|
| > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
| > History.
| > >
| > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
| > >
| > > William
| > >
| > > -Original Message-
| > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
| > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
| > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
| > >
| > >
| > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in
| SP2 (and no
| > > postSP2 fix)?
| > >
| > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
| window
| > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more
| than one IE
| > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and
| you can get
| > back
| > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
| > >
| > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
| > configured
| > > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
| > your
| > > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
| > knows
| > > the url to your mailbox.
| > >
| > > 
| > >
| > > > -Original Message-
| > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
| > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
| > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
| > > >
| > > > I attribute that to poor English. 
| > > >
| > > > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I
| understand
| > it)
| > >
| > > > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session
| terminates
| > in
| > > > Windows2000 and .Net.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > -Original Message-
| > > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
| > 

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

You are not typical anything.  It's one of your best traits. 

Don't work too hard and have a great night.  Get a little sleep, eh? :o)

William

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff 
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one
IE
> > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can
get
> > back
> > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> > >
> > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> > configured
> > > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> > your
> > > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> > knows
> > > the url to your mailbox.
> > >
> > > 
> 

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Siegfried Weber

Soccer? I don't like it as much as I don't like German beer. Can you say
I am not a typical German? Everybody who knows me closer is telling me
that over and over again...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> WWII all over again...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
>  Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> >
> > Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> >
> > Go Poland!
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
> you're
> > right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> > basic/clear text authentication.
> >
> > As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
> not.
> > I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back
at
> > the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> >
> > The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> > MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
> control
> > based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
> some
> > kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000
will
> > also not work ;-)
> >
> > Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> > >
> > > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant
post
> as
> >
> > > in 'after' applying sp2.
> > >
> > > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > > process as requested on the screen.
> > >
> > > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
> Denied"
> >
> > > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing
OWA
> 
> > > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able
to
> 
> > > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> > History.
> > >
> > > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and
no
> > > postSP2 fix)?
> > >
> > > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
> window
> > > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one
IE
> > > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can
get
> > back
> > > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> > >
> > > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> > configured
> > > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> > your
> > > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> > knows
> > > the url to your mailbox.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > > >
> > > > I attr

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

WWII all over again...

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


 Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> 
> Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> 
> Go Poland!
> 
> William
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
you're
> right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using 
> basic/clear text authentication.
> 
> As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
not.
> I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at 
> the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> 
> The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the 
> MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
control
> based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
some
> kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will 
> also not work ;-)
> 
> Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> >
> > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post
as
> 
> > in 'after' applying sp2.
> >
> > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff 
> > process as requested on the screen.
> >
> > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
Denied"
> 
> > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA

> > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to

> > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> History.
> >
> > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no 
> > postSP2 fix)?
> >
> > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
window
> > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE 
> > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get
> back
> > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> >
> > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> configured
> > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> your
> > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> knows
> > the url to your mailbox.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > I attribute that to poor English. 
> > >
> > > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand
> it)
> >
> > > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates
> in
> > > Windows2000 and .Net.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff o

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Siegfried Weber

 Germany advancing? Go Poland? What did I miss 



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:08 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> It's the same with .Net build 3590.
> 
> Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.
> 
> Go Poland!
> 
> William
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and
you're
> right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
> basic/clear text authentication.
> 
> As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some
not.
> I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at
> the restarted. But you can't count on this.
> 
> The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
> MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX
control
> based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that
some
> kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will
> also not work ;-)
> 
> Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> >
> > Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post
as
> 
> > in 'after' applying sp2.
> >
> > I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> > process as requested on the screen.
> >
> > By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access
Denied"
> 
> > (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA
> > leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to
> > regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
> History.
> >
> > Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> >
> > William
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
> > postSP2 fix)?
> >
> > It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff
window
> > telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE
> > window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get
> back
> > into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> >
> > Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
> configured
> > that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
> your
> > mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
> knows
> > the url to your mailbox.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > I attribute that to poor English. 
> > >
> > > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand
> it)
> >
> > > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates
> in
> > > Windows2000 and .Net.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > > >
> > > > Please help here, Siegfried.
> > > >
> > > > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> > > iexplore.exe
> >

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

It's the same with .Net build 3590.

Thank you, sir.  And congrats to Germany for advancing.

Go Poland!

William

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and you're
right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
basic/clear text authentication.

As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some not.
I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at
the restarted. But you can't count on this.

The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX control
based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that some
kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will
also not work ;-)

Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> 
> Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post as

> in 'after' applying sp2.
> 
> I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff 
> process as requested on the screen.
> 
> By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access Denied"

> (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA 
> leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to 
> regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
History.
> 
> Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> 
> William
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no 
> postSP2 fix)?
> 
> It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff window 
> telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE 
> window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get
back
> into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> 
> Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
configured
> that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
your
> mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
knows
> the url to your mailbox.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > I attribute that to poor English. 
> >
> > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand
it)
> 
> > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates
in
> > Windows2000 and .Net.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > Please help here, Siegfried.
> > >
> > > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> > iexplore.exe
> > > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is
no
> > real
> > > logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither
> 5.5
> >
> > > nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel
IE
> > has
> > > opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only
> > work
> > > around without buying third party 

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

A very good read, yes.  
  

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


 Right to the point. Here's some interested reading:

INFO: How IIS Authenticates Browser Clients: 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q264921

It describes how IIS and IE interact and mentions that IE caches that
stuff.


When Internet Explorer has established a connection with the server by
using an authentication method other than Anonymous, it automatically
passes the credentials for every new request during the duration of the
session. 

"Session" basically means any opened IE browser window on a single
computer. Without closing them all you'll never loose the authenticated
channel.

I think I saw another MSKB but couldn't find it after a quick search...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:37 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> You are saying this is insufficient in terms of closing the session?
> 
> How has IIS improved in dealing with OWA sessions?
> 
> Teach me!  Teach me!  I'm a sponge!  :o)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:30 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> I attribute that to poor English. 
> 
> Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand it)

> added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates in 
> Windows2000 and .Net.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > Please help here, Siegfried.
> >
> > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> iexplore.exe
> > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> >
> > William
> >
> 
> 
> List Charter and FAQ at: 
> http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Siegfried Weber

Interesting. Just tested it on Windows.NET Server build 3604 and you're
right! IE6 on Win.NET doesn't seem to cache the session if using
basic/clear text authentication.

As for your kiosk question: some do a reboot after you logoff, some not.
I've seen one where after I quit the whole machine got imaged back at
the restarted. But you can't count on this.

The solution is, as I mentioned, either buy that product from the
MessageWare guys or roll your own component. I wrote an ActiveX control
based solution which destroys the browser session. I am aware that some
kiosks even disallow ActiveX but in this case IE5/6 and OWA 2000 will
also not work ;-)

Contact me offlist if you want to test it with a test account.



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:45 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.
> 
> Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post as
> in 'after' applying sp2.
> 
> I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
> process as requested on the screen.
> 
> By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access Denied"
> (unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA
> leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to
> regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in
History.
> 
> Do kiosks not have a reset or anything?
> 
> William
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
> postSP2 fix)?
> 
> It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff window
> telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE
> window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get
back
> into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.
> 
> Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it
configured
> that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open
your
> mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he
knows
> the url to your mailbox.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > I attribute that to poor English. 
> >
> > Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand
it)
> 
> > added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates
in
> > Windows2000 and .Net.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > Please help here, Siegfried.
> > >
> > > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> > iexplore.exe
> > > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is
no
> > real
> > > logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither
> 5.5
> >
> > > nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel
IE
> > has
> > > opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only
> > work
> > > around without buying third party software, develop your own
> software,
> >
> > > or use another browser is to close all browser windows and make
sure
> 
> > > IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory.
> > >
> > > Currently there is only one third party product which overcomes
this
> 
> 

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Siegfried Weber

 Right to the point. Here's some interested reading:

INFO: How IIS Authenticates Browser Clients: 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q264921

It describes how IIS and IE interact and mentions that IE caches that
stuff.


When Internet Explorer has established a connection with the server by
using an authentication method other than Anonymous, it automatically
passes the credentials for every new request during the duration of the
session.


"Session" basically means any opened IE browser window on a single
computer. Without closing them all you'll never loose the authenticated
channel.

I think I saw another MSKB but couldn't find it after a quick search...



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:37 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> You are saying this is insufficient in terms of closing the session?
> 
> How has IIS improved in dealing with OWA sessions?
> 
> Teach me!  Teach me!  I'm a sponge!  :o)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:30 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> I attribute that to poor English. 
> 
> Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand it)
> added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates in
> Windows2000 and .Net.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > Please help here, Siegfried.
> >
> > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> iexplore.exe
> > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> >
> > William
> >
> 
> 
> List Charter and FAQ at:
> http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

So basically, don't use a kiosk for OWA.

Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse with the word post.  I meant post as
in 'after' applying sp2.

I also assume people close all browser windows through the logoff
process as requested on the screen.

By the way, with IE6 on Windows.Net I still get "ERROR: Access Denied"
(unless I reauthenticate) in other browser windows after closing OWA
leaving multiple IE browsers open.  On Windows2000 Pro, I am able to
regain access to OWA without re-authenticating using an url in History.

Do kiosks not have a reset or anything? 

William

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
postSP2 fix)?

It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff window
telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE
window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get back
into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.

Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it configured
that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open your
mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he knows
the url to your mailbox.



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> I attribute that to poor English. 
> 
> Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand it)

> added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates in 
> Windows2000 and .Net.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > Please help here, Siegfried.
> >
> > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> iexplore.exe
> > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> >
> > William
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is no
> real
> > logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither
5.5
> 
> > nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel IE
> has
> > opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only
> work
> > around without buying third party software, develop your own
software,
> 
> > or use another browser is to close all browser windows and make sure

> > IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory.
> >
> > Currently there is only one third party product which overcomes this

> > limitation from Messageware (the guys doing the PlusPack for OWA
2000)
> 
> > called SecureLogoff.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:49 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > The logoff process should take care of that.  It even closes the 
> > > browser.
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main
concern
> 
> > > would be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close
the
> > > browser. We may be stuck going third party for a solution again.
> Seems
> >
> > > like another downgrade from 5.5...;)
> > >
> > > Pasted from Q294752
> > >
> > > NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the

> > > client and the server and it does not affect authentication in any
> > way.
> > > When you

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Ray Zorz

Bummer. Sounds like another MS "Get Smart" innovation - "Missed it by
THAT much"...

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
postSP2 fix)?

It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff window
telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE
window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get back
into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.

Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it configured
that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open your
mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he knows
the url to your mailbox.



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> I attribute that to poor English. 
> 
> Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand it)

> added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates in 
> Windows2000 and .Net.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > Please help here, Siegfried.
> >
> > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> iexplore.exe
> > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> >
> > William
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is no
> real
> > logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither
5.5
> 
> > nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel IE
> has
> > opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only
> work
> > around without buying third party software, develop your own
software,
> 
> > or use another browser is to close all browser windows and make sure

> > IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory.
> >
> > Currently there is only one third party product which overcomes this

> > limitation from Messageware (the guys doing the PlusPack for OWA
2000)
> 
> > called SecureLogoff.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:49 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > The logoff process should take care of that.  It even closes the 
> > > browser.
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main
concern
> 
> > > would be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close
the
> > > browser. We may be stuck going third party for a solution again.
> Seems
> >
> > > like another downgrade from 5.5...;)
> > >
> > > Pasted from Q294752
> > >
> > > NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the

> > > client and the server and it does not affect authentication in any
> > way.
> > > When you set the user context timeout to a number, even if this
> > timeout
> > > passes, the client browser will still have the user's credentials
> > cached
> > > and the user will not be prompted for credentials
> > >
> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE:

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

You are saying this is insufficient in terms of closing the session?

How has IIS improved in dealing with OWA sessions?

Teach me!  Teach me!  I'm a sponge!  :o)


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I attribute that to poor English. 

Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand it)
added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates in
Windows2000 and .Net.


-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Please help here, Siegfried.
> 
> If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
iexplore.exe
> (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> 
> William
> 


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Siegfried Weber

The Logoff *button* which has been added to OWA 2000 in SP2 (and no
postSP2 fix)?

It does *exactly* the same as on OWA 5.5. It displays a logoff window
telling you to close *all* IE windows. If you have more than one IE
window open IEPLORE.EXE will not unload from memory and you can get back
into the same mailbox without getting an authentication dialog.

Almost all Internet kiosks or cafe's have, if they run IE, it configured
that you cannot close the browser. In this case *anybody* can open your
mailbox *without* getting asked again for user & password if s/he knows
the url to your mailbox.



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:30 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> I attribute that to poor English. 
> 
> Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand it)
> added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates in
> Windows2000 and .Net.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > Please help here, Siegfried.
> >
> > If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
> iexplore.exe
> > (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> >
> > William
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is no
> real
> > logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither
5.5
> 
> > nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel IE
> has
> > opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only
> work
> > around without buying third party software, develop your own
software,
> 
> > or use another browser is to close all browser windows and make sure
> > IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory.
> >
> > Currently there is only one third party product which overcomes this
> > limitation from Messageware (the guys doing the PlusPack for OWA
2000)
> 
> > called SecureLogoff.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:49 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > > The logoff process should take care of that.  It even closes the
> > > browser.
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main
concern
> 
> > > would be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close
the
> > > browser. We may be stuck going third party for a solution again.
> Seems
> >
> > > like another downgrade from 5.5...;)
> > >
> > > Pasted from Q294752
> > >
> > > NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the
> > > client and the server and it does not affect authentication in any
> > way.
> > > When you set the user context timeout to a number, even if this
> > timeout
> > > passes, the client browser will still have the user's credentials
> > cached
> > > and the user will not be prompted for credentials
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> > >
> > >
> > > XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange
> 2000
> >
> > > Server
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> >

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

I attribute that to poor English. 

Using the alleged Logoff button (mostly aesthetics as I understand it)
added in E2K sp2, iexplorer.exe holding the OWA session terminates in
Windows2000 and .Net.


-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Please help here, Siegfried.
> 
> If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
iexplore.exe
> (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> 
> William
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is no
real
> logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither 5.5

> nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel IE
has
> opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only
work
> around without buying third party software, develop your own software,

> or use another browser is to close all browser windows and make sure 
> IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory.
> 
> Currently there is only one third party product which overcomes this 
> limitation from Messageware (the guys doing the PlusPack for OWA 2000)

> called SecureLogoff.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:49 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > The logoff process should take care of that.  It even closes the 
> > browser.
> >
> > William
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main concern

> > would be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close the 
> > browser. We may be stuck going third party for a solution again.
Seems
> 
> > like another downgrade from 5.5...;)
> >
> > Pasted from Q294752
> >
> > NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the 
> > client and the server and it does not affect authentication in any
> way.
> > When you set the user context timeout to a number, even if this
> timeout
> > passes, the client browser will still have the user's credentials
> cached
> > and the user will not be prompted for credentials
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange
2000
> 
> > Server
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752
> >
> > William
> >
> > Other reg settings for OWA: 
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > That may be the diff.
> >
> > William?
> >
> > Steve Clark
> > Clark Systems Support, LLC
> > AVIEN Charter Member
> > "Who's watching your network?"
> > www.clarksupport.com
> >       301-610-9584 voice
> >   240-465-0323 Efax
> >
> > The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by
Clark
> 
> > Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
> information
> > and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without
> the
> > prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.
> >
&g

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Siegfried Weber

Can you explain what is "post-sp2 E2K logoff"?



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:19 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Please help here, Siegfried.
> 
> If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates
iexplore.exe
> (IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).
> 
> William
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is no
real
> logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither 5.5
> nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel IE
has
> opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only
work
> around without buying third party software, develop your own software,
> or use another browser is to close all browser windows and make sure
> IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory.
> 
> Currently there is only one third party product which overcomes this
> limitation from Messageware (the guys doing the PlusPack for OWA 2000)
> called SecureLogoff.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:49 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > The logoff process should take care of that.  It even closes the
> > browser.
> >
> > William
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main concern
> > would be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close the
> > browser. We may be stuck going third party for a solution again.
Seems
> 
> > like another downgrade from 5.5...;)
> >
> > Pasted from Q294752
> >
> > NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the
> > client and the server and it does not affect authentication in any
> way.
> > When you set the user context timeout to a number, even if this
> timeout
> > passes, the client browser will still have the user's credentials
> cached
> > and the user will not be prompted for credentials
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange
2000
> 
> > Server
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752
> >
> > William
> >
> > Other reg settings for OWA:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > That may be the diff.
> >
> > William?
> >
> > Steve Clark
> > Clark Systems Support, LLC
> > AVIEN Charter Member
> > "Who's watching your network?"
> > www.clarksupport.com
> >       301-610-9584 voice
> >   240-465-0323 Efax
> >
> > The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by
Clark
> 
> > Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
> information
> > and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without
> the
> > prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> > Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> >
> >
> > I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open
a
> 
> > message and get the expired window and a prompt to lo

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

Please help here, Siegfried.  

If I use the post-sp2 E2K logoff in OWA2000, it terminates iexplore.exe
(IE5 and IE6 on Windows2000 and Windows.net).

William


-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is no real
logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither 5.5
nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel IE has
opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only work
around without buying third party software, develop your own software,
or use another browser is to close all browser windows and make sure
IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory.

Currently there is only one third party product which overcomes this
limitation from Messageware (the guys doing the PlusPack for OWA 2000)
called SecureLogoff.



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:49 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> The logoff process should take care of that.  It even closes the 
> browser.
> 
> William
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main concern 
> would be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close the 
> browser. We may be stuck going third party for a solution again. Seems

> like another downgrade from 5.5...;)
> 
> Pasted from Q294752
> 
> NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the 
> client and the server and it does not affect authentication in any
way.
> When you set the user context timeout to a number, even if this
timeout
> passes, the client browser will still have the user's credentials
cached
> and the user will not be prompted for credentials
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange 2000

> Server http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752
> 
> William
> 
> Other reg settings for OWA: 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> That may be the diff.
> 
> William?
> 
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>   301-610-9584 voice
>   240-465-0323 Efax
> 
> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark

> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
information
> and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without
the
> prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a

> message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.
> 
> I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?
> 
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>   301-610-9584 voice
>   240-465-0323 Efax
> 
> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark

> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
information
> and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without
the
> prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> I wasn't aware that it l

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

LOL!  I concur.  Stick to operating systems!

-Original Message-
From: Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


William, 
Off of one KBs is this one
:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q256986

Check what it says right after Windows ME !!!


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 16:03
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange 2000
Server 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752

William

Other reg settings for OWA:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


That may be the diff.

William?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
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and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.

I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've
kept the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days
later and move around the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to
modify that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server
after a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find
info on is session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser
remains open since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the
browser. Novell's myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I
am looking for without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA 
Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Siegfried Weber

Pardon when I jump n here, William. But no, in OWA 2000 there is no real
logoff and there has never been one in any version of OWA. Neither 5.5
nor 2000 had and has a feature to close the authenticated channel IE has
opened after you logged into OWA. This is an IE issue and the only work
around without buying third party software, develop your own software,
or use another browser is to close all browser windows and make sure
IEXPLORE.EXE doesn't stay in memory.

Currently there is only one third party product which overcomes this
limitation from Messageware (the guys doing the PlusPack for OWA 2000)
called SecureLogoff.



> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:49 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> The logoff process should take care of that.  It even closes the
> browser.
> 
> William
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main concern
> would be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close the
> browser. We may be stuck going third party for a solution again. Seems
> like another downgrade from 5.5...;)
> 
> Pasted from Q294752
> 
> NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the
> client and the server and it does not affect authentication in any
way.
> When you set the user context timeout to a number, even if this
timeout
> passes, the client browser will still have the user's credentials
cached
> and the user will not be prompted for credentials
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange 2000
> Server
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752
> 
> William
> 
> Other reg settings for OWA:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> That may be the diff.
> 
> William?
> 
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>   301-610-9584 voice
>   240-465-0323 Efax
> 
> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
information
> and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without
the
> prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
> message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.
> 
> I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?
> 
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>   301-610-9584 voice
>   240-465-0323 Efax
> 
> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
information
> and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without
the
> prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open.
I've
> kept the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days
> later and move around the mailbox.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Sub

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Siegfried Weber

There is *no* downgrade in OWA 2000 with regards to OWA 5.5. It has been
discussed several times on several mailing lists. OWA 5.5 exposed the
*exact* same behavior as OWA 2000 with does. The OWA 5.5 has a logoff
page which tells you to *close* all browser windows to finish the logoff
process.



> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:13 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main concern
would
> be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close the browser.
We
> may be stuck going third party for a solution again. Seems like
another
> downgrade from 5.5...;)
> 
> Pasted from Q294752
> 
> NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the
client
> and the server and it does not affect authentication in any way. When
you
> set the user context timeout to a number, even if this timeout passes,
the
> client browser will still have the user's credentials cached and the
user
> will not be prompted for credentials
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange 2000
> Server
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752
> 
> William
> 
> Other reg settings for OWA:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> That may be the diff.
> 
> William?
> 
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>   301-610-9584 voice
>   240-465-0323 Efax
> 
> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
information
> and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without
the
> prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
> message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.
> 
> I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?
> 
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>   301-610-9584 voice
>   240-465-0323 Efax
> 
> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
information
> and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without
the
> prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open.
I've
> kept the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days
> later and move around the mailbox.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA
> 
> 
> It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to
> modify that timeout period or asking what is the period?
> 
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>   301-610-9584 voice
>   240-465-0323 Efax
> 
> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged
information
> and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without
the
> prior written permi

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Precht, David

William, 
Off of one KBs is this one
:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q256986

Check what it says right after Windows ME !!!


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 16:03
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange 2000
Server 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752

William

Other reg settings for OWA:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


That may be the diff.

William?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.

I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've kept
the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days later and
move around the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to modify
that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server after
a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find info on is
session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser remains open
since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the browser. Novell's
myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I am looking for
without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA 
Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Martin Blackstone

While I cant know specifically what kind of work you guys do, I can state
the OWA is good enough for virtually everyone who uses it. I imagine that
unless you are some kind of spy agency, it should be good enough for you
Use HTTPS, set the time out to something like 5 minutes and run with it.

Be sure your users know they need to log off. It is amazing what they will
do if you tell them there is a chance someone else may read their email if
you don't.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main concern would
be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close the browser. We
may be stuck going third party for a solution again. Seems like another
downgrade from 5.5...;)

Pasted from Q294752

NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the client
and the server and it does not affect authentication in any way. When you
set the user context timeout to a number, even if this timeout passes, the
client browser will still have the user's credentials cached and the user
will not be prompted for credentials

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange 2000
Server 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752

William

Other reg settings for OWA:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


That may be the diff.

William?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.

I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've kept
the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days later and
move around the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to modify
that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server after
a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find info on is
session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser rem

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

The logoff process should take care of that.  It even closes the
browser.

William

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main concern
would be access from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close the
browser. We may be stuck going third party for a solution again. Seems
like another downgrade from 5.5...;)

Pasted from Q294752

NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the
client and the server and it does not affect authentication in any way.
When you set the user context timeout to a number, even if this timeout
passes, the client browser will still have the user's credentials cached
and the user will not be prompted for credentials

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange 2000
Server 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752

William

Other reg settings for OWA:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


That may be the diff.

William?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.

I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've
kept the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days
later and move around the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to
modify that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server
after a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find
info on is session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser
remains open since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the
browser. Novell's myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I
am looking for without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA 
Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL 

RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

I don't think the session time-outs are gonna do it. My main concern would be access 
from kiosks which sometimes won't let you close the browser. We may be stuck going 
third party for a solution again. Seems like another downgrade from 5.5...;)

Pasted from Q294752

NOTE : The above setting has to do with the connection between the client and the 
server and it does not affect authentication in any way. When you set the user context 
timeout to a number, even if this timeout passes, the client browser will still have 
the user's credentials cached and the user will not be prompted for credentials

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange 2000
Server 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752

William

Other reg settings for OWA:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


That may be the diff.

William?

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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.

I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
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www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've
kept the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days
later and move around the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to
modify that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server
after a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find
info on is session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser
remains open since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the
browser. Novell's myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I
am looking for without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA 
Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread William Lefkovics

XCCC: Session Timeout Settings for Outlook Web Access on Exchange 2000
Server 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294752

William

Other reg settings for OWA:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q311342

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


That may be the diff.

William?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.

I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've
kept the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days
later and move around the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to
modify that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server
after a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find
info on is session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser
remains open since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the
browser. Novell's myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I
am looking for without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA 
Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Clark, Steve

That may be the diff.

William?

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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.

I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've kept
the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days later and
move around the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to modify
that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server after
a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find info on is
session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser remains open
since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the browser. Novell's
myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I am looking for
without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA 
Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

Ah, sorry, Iam running Exchange 2000 Ent. on Windows 2000 Adv.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.

I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've kept
the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days later and
move around the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to modify
that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server after
a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find info on is
session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser remains open
since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the browser. Novell's
myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I am looking for
without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA 
Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Clark, Steve

I find that if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, I go back in and try to open a
message and get the expired window and a prompt to log back in.

I'm running Ex 5.5 on NT 4 - is that what you're running?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
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www.clarksupport.com
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've kept
the browser open on my test network and been able to go back days later and
move around the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to modify
that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
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"Who's watching your network?"
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server after
a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find info on is
session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser remains open
since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the browser. Novell's
myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I am looking for
without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA 
Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

I wasn't aware that it logged you out if the browser remains open. I've kept the 
browser open on my test network and been able to go back days later and move around 
the mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Force Logoff of OWA


It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to modify
that timeout period or asking what is the period?

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Clark Systems Support, LLC
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server after
a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find info on is
session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser remains open
since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the browser. Novell's
myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I am looking for
without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




Jonathan Crouthamel - MCSE/CNA 
Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Force Logoff of OWA

2002-06-12 Thread Clark, Steve

It already logs you off after an extended period. Are you looking to modify
that timeout period or asking what is the period?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
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"Who's watching your network?"
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-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Force Logoff of OWA

Hi All,

Is there a way to force users to have to log back on to the owa server after
a certain time period expires? The only thing I can seem to find info on is
session time-outs which doesn't have an effect if the browser remains open
since the credentials seemed to remain cached in the browser. Novell's
myrealbox works flawlessly. That's the functionality I am looking for
without migrating to novell...:) Thanks for any input.




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Technical Services Supervisor 
Systems Administrator 
Datavision-Prologix, Inc. 
Phone: 215.442.7400 x1150 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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