RE: Moving Mailboxes from 2003 Legacy Forest to Exchange 2010 Resource Forest
Just run a one or two test mailboxes. That'll make it pretty clear. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Chris Pohlschneider [mailto:chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes from 2003 Legacy Forest to Exchange 2010 Resource Forest Hello, We are to the point where we need to move mailboxes from legacy 2003 Exchange Forests to a 2010 Resource forest, but looking for some suggestions in doing so. The trusts have been successfully established and DNS is working properly between the two forests. I know Exmerge is still an option for this, but not for sure how well this works with this type of setup. Plus I think that the user will not get any new e-mails come through until the PST file has been imported into the new mailbox on the 2010 server. Also know about the New-MoveRequest cmdlet for EMS, but not for sure if I need to use the ADMT tool to migrate user attributes over before the mailbox is moved. I am just confused right now and looking for some pointers. If anyone has some info about this, I would appreciate it. Thanks for your feedback. Chris Pohlschneider Holloway Sportswear Network Administrator chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.commailto:chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com 937-494-2559
RE: Moving Mailboxes
The source writes transaction logs too - it has to log something with the data being moved out of the source database..just not as much of course :) -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2008 19:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Also - it's the DESTINATION server that matters for that KB article/backups during mailbox moves. Not the source. (The destination is the only one creating data, so that's the only one generating much in the way of logs). --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think I am running out of disk space. I have plenty of free space on the server (80GB free on the log drive). I thought I had the mailbox moves outside of the backup window, but never verified that. I will look into that some more. Now that I have re-read the MS KB Article on this issue, it mentions that, that is probably the place to start. The destination server is actually the same as the source in terms of physical machine. We just gave it additional disk storage space. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Are you running out of transaction log disk space on the destination server? Or are you hitting log checkpoint depth exhaustion because backups are running while you move mailboxes? In either case - circular logging gets dangerous in case of any hardware problems that take your stores offline. Can you add any storage to the destination server for some extra translog space, instead? --James On 7/29/08, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Moving Mailboxes
After reading the rest of this thread, I would just push the backup start time a few hours to coincide with after the mailbox moves have finished. After all, that's the time you really want the full backup anyway. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2008 18:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Moving Mailboxes
You can also try to be sneaky... use ESM to see if a mailbox is currently logged onto, during the day; if not, go ahead and move it then. Breakup your backups. Since your largest, longest backup is the existing 400GB SG, go ahead and start that one early. As the source for the data in the mailbox moves, there shouldn't be too many transaction logs generated for it and the 1159 error shouldn't occur. Delay the backup of the target SGs until after the moves are complete. That should help your timing efforts immensely. -Original Message- From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes I could alternate incrementals in there if I needed to, they prefer fulls but... Is there a Tool that would make this move easier on me in terms of time, free would be nice, but not required. The math - yeah, that makes sense. I should've thought about that. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes That's certainly a problem. Unless your SLA lets you alternate incremental and full backups (ie. do moves one night, then incremental backup -- full backup with no moview the next night, etc). For moving large mailboxes - halting full backups during the move operation is pretty much a requirement... For the math on how much 1012 logs will be...if you move mailboxes at a low-usage hour...then nearly all of the translog activity will be from your moves, and 1012 logs x 5MB ~ 5GB of move data. --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never knew how much data the 1012 uncommited transactions logs could hold. If its around 5GB, that's not going to be fun for me, around 40 of my users have over 1GB mailboxes. Then another 120 or so have over 500MB mailboxes. I could make sure backups run right after a move, the problem is, a full backup isn't exactly quick. So when I get to these really large mailboxes, I am going to have to do them in very small groups? I was hoping to avoid extending this out as long as that would take, if I can't, I will deal with that though. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Then it's not space that's a problem...you really need to watch how many mailboxes you move during an ESE backup operation. You can only create 1012-ish uncommitted transaction logs before the storage group is taken offline as a precaution. That works out to ~5GB of mailbox data. Can you halt backups when you do the moves, then immediately take a full backup? --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the one. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Is this the problem you're having? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905801 --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently 80GB free out of 120GB total on that particular drive). I just verified that the log files are being written to the drive I thought they were. The processor is barely being used on the box so compression wouldn't be bad. Matt From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we
RE: Moving Mailboxes
IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Moving Mailboxes
Are you running out of transaction log disk space on the destination server? Or are you hitting log checkpoint depth exhaustion because backups are running while you move mailboxes? In either case - circular logging gets dangerous in case of any hardware problems that take your stores offline. Can you add any storage to the destination server for some extra translog space, instead? --James On 7/29/08, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Moving Mailboxes
Is this the problem you're having? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905801 --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently 80GB free out of 120GB total on that particular drive). I just verified that the log files are being written to the drive I thought they were. The processor is barely being used on the box so compression wouldn't be bad. Matt From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes IMHO – the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Moving Mailboxes
Do frequent Full Backups Move only the # of users between backups that the Log drive has space for. Chuck Robinson ___ Senior Practice Consultant MCSE: Messaging EMC Consulting Phone: 732-321-3644 | Mobile: 973-865-0394 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.emc.com/consultinghttp://www.emc.com/consulting Transforming Information Into Business Results From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently 80GB free out of 120GB total on that particular drive). I just verified that the log files are being written to the drive I thought they were. The processor is barely being used on the box so compression wouldn't be bad. Matt From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Moving Mailboxes
I don't think I am running out of disk space. I have plenty of free space on the server (80GB free on the log drive). I thought I had the mailbox moves outside of the backup window, but never verified that. I will look into that some more. Now that I have re-read the MS KB Article on this issue, it mentions that, that is probably the place to start. The destination server is actually the same as the source in terms of physical machine. We just gave it additional disk storage space. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Are you running out of transaction log disk space on the destination server? Or are you hitting log checkpoint depth exhaustion because backups are running while you move mailboxes? In either case - circular logging gets dangerous in case of any hardware problems that take your stores offline. Can you add any storage to the destination server for some extra translog space, instead? --James On 7/29/08, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Moving Mailboxes
That would be the one. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Is this the problem you're having? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905801 --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently 80GB free out of 120GB total on that particular drive). I just verified that the log files are being written to the drive I thought they were. The processor is barely being used on the box so compression wouldn't be bad. Matt From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Moving Mailboxes
Then it's not space that's a problem...you really need to watch how many mailboxes you move during an ESE backup operation. You can only create 1012-ish uncommitted transaction logs before the storage group is taken offline as a precaution. That works out to ~5GB of mailbox data. Can you halt backups when you do the moves, then immediately take a full backup? --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the one. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Is this the problem you're having? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905801 --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently 80GB free out of 120GB total on that particular drive). I just verified that the log files are being written to the drive I thought they were. The processor is barely being used on the box so compression wouldn't be bad. Matt From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Moving Mailboxes
Also - it's the DESTINATION server that matters for that KB article/backups during mailbox moves. Not the source. (The destination is the only one creating data, so that's the only one generating much in the way of logs). --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think I am running out of disk space. I have plenty of free space on the server (80GB free on the log drive). I thought I had the mailbox moves outside of the backup window, but never verified that. I will look into that some more. Now that I have re-read the MS KB Article on this issue, it mentions that, that is probably the place to start. The destination server is actually the same as the source in terms of physical machine. We just gave it additional disk storage space. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Are you running out of transaction log disk space on the destination server? Or are you hitting log checkpoint depth exhaustion because backups are running while you move mailboxes? In either case - circular logging gets dangerous in case of any hardware problems that take your stores offline. Can you add any storage to the destination server for some extra translog space, instead? --James On 7/29/08, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Moving Mailboxes
I never knew how much data the 1012 uncommited transactions logs could hold. If its around 5GB, that's not going to be fun for me, around 40 of my users have over 1GB mailboxes. Then another 120 or so have over 500MB mailboxes. I could make sure backups run right after a move, the problem is, a full backup isn't exactly quick. So when I get to these really large mailboxes, I am going to have to do them in very small groups? I was hoping to avoid extending this out as long as that would take, if I can't, I will deal with that though. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Then it's not space that's a problem...you really need to watch how many mailboxes you move during an ESE backup operation. You can only create 1012-ish uncommitted transaction logs before the storage group is taken offline as a precaution. That works out to ~5GB of mailbox data. Can you halt backups when you do the moves, then immediately take a full backup? --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the one. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Is this the problem you're having? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905801 --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently 80GB free out of 120GB total on that particular drive). I just verified that the log files are being written to the drive I thought they were. The processor is barely being used on the box so compression wouldn't be bad. Matt From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja
RE: Moving Mailboxes
I should have phrased that better. This move is between stores on the same server. Before this all started, I added more storage to the server, then made a new storage group and built the stores under that storage group. But all this is happening on the same server. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Also - it's the DESTINATION server that matters for that KB article/backups during mailbox moves. Not the source. (The destination is the only one creating data, so that's the only one generating much in the way of logs). --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think I am running out of disk space. I have plenty of free space on the server (80GB free on the log drive). I thought I had the mailbox moves outside of the backup window, but never verified that. I will look into that some more. Now that I have re-read the MS KB Article on this issue, it mentions that, that is probably the place to start. The destination server is actually the same as the source in terms of physical machine. We just gave it additional disk storage space. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Are you running out of transaction log disk space on the destination server? Or are you hitting log checkpoint depth exhaustion because backups are running while you move mailboxes? In either case - circular logging gets dangerous in case of any hardware problems that take your stores offline. Can you add any storage to the destination server for some extra translog space, instead? --James On 7/29/08, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Moving Mailboxes
That's certainly a problem. Unless your SLA lets you alternate incremental and full backups (ie. do moves one night, then incremental backup -- full backup with no moview the next night, etc). For moving large mailboxes - halting full backups during the move operation is pretty much a requirement... For the math on how much 1012 logs will be...if you move mailboxes at a low-usage hour...then nearly all of the translog activity will be from your moves, and 1012 logs x 5MB ~ 5GB of move data. --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never knew how much data the 1012 uncommited transactions logs could hold. If its around 5GB, that's not going to be fun for me, around 40 of my users have over 1GB mailboxes. Then another 120 or so have over 500MB mailboxes. I could make sure backups run right after a move, the problem is, a full backup isn't exactly quick. So when I get to these really large mailboxes, I am going to have to do them in very small groups? I was hoping to avoid extending this out as long as that would take, if I can't, I will deal with that though. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Then it's not space that's a problem...you really need to watch how many mailboxes you move during an ESE backup operation. You can only create 1012-ish uncommitted transaction logs before the storage group is taken offline as a precaution. That works out to ~5GB of mailbox data. Can you halt backups when you do the moves, then immediately take a full backup? --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the one. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Is this the problem you're having? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905801 --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently 80GB free out of 120GB total on that particular drive). I just verified that the log files are being written to the drive I thought they were. The processor is barely being used on the box so compression wouldn't be bad. Matt From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination
RE: Moving Mailboxes
I could alternate incrementals in there if I needed to, they prefer fulls but... Is there a Tool that would make this move easier on me in terms of time, free would be nice, but not required. The math - yeah, that makes sense. I should've thought about that. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes That's certainly a problem. Unless your SLA lets you alternate incremental and full backups (ie. do moves one night, then incremental backup -- full backup with no moview the next night, etc). For moving large mailboxes - halting full backups during the move operation is pretty much a requirement... For the math on how much 1012 logs will be...if you move mailboxes at a low-usage hour...then nearly all of the translog activity will be from your moves, and 1012 logs x 5MB ~ 5GB of move data. --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never knew how much data the 1012 uncommited transactions logs could hold. If its around 5GB, that's not going to be fun for me, around 40 of my users have over 1GB mailboxes. Then another 120 or so have over 500MB mailboxes. I could make sure backups run right after a move, the problem is, a full backup isn't exactly quick. So when I get to these really large mailboxes, I am going to have to do them in very small groups? I was hoping to avoid extending this out as long as that would take, if I can't, I will deal with that though. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Then it's not space that's a problem...you really need to watch how many mailboxes you move during an ESE backup operation. You can only create 1012-ish uncommitted transaction logs before the storage group is taken offline as a precaution. That works out to ~5GB of mailbox data. Can you halt backups when you do the moves, then immediately take a full backup? --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the one. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Is this the problem you're having? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905801 --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently 80GB free out of 120GB total on that particular drive). I just verified that the log files are being written to the drive I thought they were. The processor is barely being used on the box so compression wouldn't be bad. Matt From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed opinions on whether it should be enabled or not. So I guess I have 2 questions. 1. Is circular logging the way to go to deal with this? 2. If so, is there anything I need to watch out for? I had been planning just to enable it to finish the mailbox moves and then just turn it off. Matt Karsten
Re: Moving Mailboxes
Not really a tool for that...NetIQ and Quest's migration tools are going to cost a lot, and aren't really meant for this type of move (and might not even work). You're probably stuck with lots of manual effort. --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could alternate incrementals in there if I needed to, they prefer fulls but... Is there a Tool that would make this move easier on me in terms of time, free would be nice, but not required. The math - yeah, that makes sense. I should've thought about that. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes That's certainly a problem. Unless your SLA lets you alternate incremental and full backups (ie. do moves one night, then incremental backup -- full backup with no moview the next night, etc). For moving large mailboxes - halting full backups during the move operation is pretty much a requirement... For the math on how much 1012 logs will be...if you move mailboxes at a low-usage hour...then nearly all of the translog activity will be from your moves, and 1012 logs x 5MB ~ 5GB of move data. --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never knew how much data the 1012 uncommited transactions logs could hold. If its around 5GB, that's not going to be fun for me, around 40 of my users have over 1GB mailboxes. Then another 120 or so have over 500MB mailboxes. I could make sure backups run right after a move, the problem is, a full backup isn't exactly quick. So when I get to these really large mailboxes, I am going to have to do them in very small groups? I was hoping to avoid extending this out as long as that would take, if I can't, I will deal with that though. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Then it's not space that's a problem...you really need to watch how many mailboxes you move during an ESE backup operation. You can only create 1012-ish uncommitted transaction logs before the storage group is taken offline as a precaution. That works out to ~5GB of mailbox data. Can you halt backups when you do the moves, then immediately take a full backup? --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the one. Matt -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving Mailboxes Is this the problem you're having? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905801 --James On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Karsten, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got plenty of space for the logs on the server (currently 80GB free out of 120GB total on that particular drive). I just verified that the log files are being written to the drive I thought they were. The processor is barely being used on the box so compression wouldn't be bad. Matt From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes IMHO - the answer to that depends on your backup and SLA for recoverability. Moving large mailboxes creates a lot of transaction logs. You might want to consider increasing the amount of space you have allocated for the transaction logs temporarily while you're doing the mailbox moves, then cut it back when you're finished. Transaction logs also compress pretty well, so you might consider enabling compression on the transaction log directories if you can afford the processor load without it hurting your performance too much. From: Karsten, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving Mailboxes Exchange Server 2003 SP2. We have always had all of our users (around 1200) in one large store. This single store had grown to be around 400GB. A while ago we decided to start moving all of our users out of this store and into several different stores organized based on desired configuration. We then began moving mailboxes out of the large store in groups into the other stores. This has been going fine for our smaller users. We now have hit a point where we are at our users that have larger mailboxes (200mb - 2gb). As I am moving them in groups, the stores keep dismounting. Looking at the event logs it appears that they are dismounting because the logs are filling up. I did more looking and it appears that the easiest way to fix this is to enable circular logging. Reading more on circular logging, there seem to be mixed
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
Really? You must be doing something wrong, because it works for me. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 14 March 2002 06:58 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Move mailbox from 5.5 to 2000 does not automatically update the profiles like it does when moving mailboxes from one 5.5 server to another. -Original Message- From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Why not Move Mailbox? If the server is in the same site, move it, then change the alias. Plus why is the alias that important? If you don't do it this way then you'll be visiting 1000 desktops to update the profiles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:21 AM Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt Conversation: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
It's not Move Mailbox that does this anyway. When you move a mailbox to a new server the details of the mailbox are updated on the server. The client attempts to logon and the server where the mailbox was originally housed responds and says I don't house that mailbox anymore but it's housed on this server - the client updates it's profile (mostly) and will go to the right server next time. However, it can only do this when the DN has not changed, hence the restriction of not moving a mailbox between sites or between containers. Kevin -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 March 2002 08:31 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Really? You must be doing something wrong, because it works for me. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 14 March 2002 06:58 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Move mailbox from 5.5 to 2000 does not automatically update the profiles like it does when moving mailboxes from one 5.5 server to another. -Original Message- From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Why not Move Mailbox? If the server is in the same site, move it, then change the alias. Plus why is the alias that important? If you don't do it this way then you'll be visiting 1000 desktops to update the profiles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:21 AM Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt Conversation: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
It should. What experiences have you have where this did not happen? Was the source server still available when the clients attempted logon? William -Original Message- From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Move mailbox from 5.5 to 2000 does not automatically update the profiles like it does when moving mailboxes from one 5.5 server to another. -Original Message- From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Why not Move Mailbox? If the server is in the same site, move it, then change the alias. Plus why is the alias that important? If you don't do it this way then you'll be visiting 1000 desktops to update the profiles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:21 AM Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt Conversation: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
Yeah, came to the same conclusion, but thanks. Nokia uses another system for access to mailboxes via WAP, developed in house. Probably much the same. Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 11:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 That leaves only one thing I can think of: ExMerge. http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/using/tips/Migration.asp nokia.com? Ever try this OWA for WAP?: http://www.leederbyshire.com/OWA-WAP.htm William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
William, that OWA WAP looks cool .. Ever used it ? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 04:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 That leaves only one thing I can think of: ExMerge. http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/using/tips/Migration.asp nokia.com? Ever try this OWA for WAP?: http://www.leederbyshire.com/OWA-WAP.htm William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
Why not Move Mailbox? If the server is in the same site, move it, then change the alias. Plus why is the alias that important? If you don't do it this way then you'll be visiting 1000 desktops to update the profiles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:21 AM Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt Conversation: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
If you do decide to use the move mailbox feature, you should disable your Antivirus software on the servers during the move. There's a Q article on this one. -Bonnie Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
The desktop updates can be automated. But I certainly would use Move Mailbox. -Original Message- From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Why not Move Mailbox? If the server is in the same site, move it, then change the alias. Plus why is the alias that important? If you don't do it this way then you'll be visiting 1000 desktops to update the profiles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:21 AM Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt Conversation: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
No I haven't. I was hoping Nokia.com might have some experience there... -Original Message- From: David N Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 William, that OWA WAP looks cool .. Ever used it ? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 04:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 That leaves only one thing I can think of: ExMerge. http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/using/tips/Migration.asp nokia.com? Ever try this OWA for WAP?: http://www.leederbyshire.com/OWA-WAP.htm William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
Move mailbox from 5.5 to 2000 does not automatically update the profiles like it does when moving mailboxes from one 5.5 server to another. -Original Message- From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Why not Move Mailbox? If the server is in the same site, move it, then change the alias. Plus why is the alias that important? If you don't do it this way then you'll be visiting 1000 desktops to update the profiles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:21 AM Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt Conversation: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, Thanks for your fast answer. About 25 GB of data, no DL:s CR:s or public folders to consider. Just the mailboxes. Unfortunately we can't use any third party utilities. Can't use move mailbox because the alias needs to be changed on the mailboxes :( Patrick -Original Message- From: ext William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 March, 2002 08:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000
How much data are we talking about? You can open AD Users and Computers and select: Move Mailbox. Just do a small bunch at a time. You might also consider one of the third party utilities: http://www.aelita.com/products/EMW.htm http://www.netiq.com/products/em/default.asp You also have to consider DL, CR, public folder hierarchy and permissions. ADC needs to be set up correctly. But if you already have the servers set up, you likely already know this stuff. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes from 5.5 to 2000 Hi, What would be the best way to move about 1000 mailboxes from a Exchange 5.5 server to a Exchange 2000 server in the same site. Any suggestions and warnings about possible pitfalls would be greatly appreciated. Patrick Johansson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Thomas, I am very interested in these tools. Please tell me more. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 -Original Message- From: Thomas Verde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: moving mailboxes and having problems Mike, I have partnered up with a company that specializes in Exchange Administration tools. One of those tools is called Move Mailbox Manager. If you are still having issues with moving those mailboxes, maybe we can help. We also have a full suite of other tools that may make your life easier. Reply to this message and we will see what we can do. Tom List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: moving mailboxes and having problems
Mike, I have partnered up with a company that specializes in Exchange Administration tools. One of those tools is called Move Mailbox Manager. If you are still having issues with moving those mailboxes, maybe we can help. We also have a full suite of other tools that may make your life easier. Reply to this message and we will see what we can do. Tom List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Thomas, I would be interested in getting more info on how I could obtain these Exchange tools. We are currently running Exchange 5.5 SP4. Thanks, -Original Message- From: Thomas Verde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: moving mailboxes and having problems Mike, I have partnered up with a company that specializes in Exchange Administration tools. One of those tools is called Move Mailbox Manager. If you are still having issues with moving those mailboxes, maybe we can help. We also have a full suite of other tools that may make your life easier. Reply to this message and we will see what we can do. Tom List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Does moving mailboxes oversnip threads? :o) William -Original Message- From: Thomas Verde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: moving mailboxes and having problems Mike, I have partnered up with a company that specializes in Exchange Administration tools. One of those tools is called Move Mailbox Manager. If you are still having issues with moving those mailboxes, maybe we can help. We also have a full suite of other tools that may make your life easier. Reply to this message and we will see what we can do. Tom List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Use the player tools -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: moving mailboxes and having problems Thomas, I would be interested in getting more info on how I could obtain these Exchange tools. We are currently running Exchange 5.5 SP4. Thanks, -Original Message- From: Thomas Verde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: moving mailboxes and having problems Mike, I have partnered up with a company that specializes in Exchange Administration tools. One of those tools is called Move Mailbox Manager. If you are still having issues with moving those mailboxes, maybe we can help. We also have a full suite of other tools that may make your life easier. Reply to this message and we will see what we can do. Tom List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes to another server
WE have set backups up on the laptops. But you know when you leave it up to the user they don't have the time to wait. So what we have done is asked them to copy their .pst file to a zip disk or when they are in the office to copy it to a share on the server. This works great because OWA loads fast if you keep the information store small. Take it from me your helpdesk calls will increase with laptop users calling saying that they can't load OWA. Keep their exchange box small let they pst grow. If they come in the office every now then you can set the outlook desktop client up to sync so even if they are on the road they can access their old mail. This is just a nut shell of what I have done with exchange remote users. I also included the Norton mobile client so there anti virus will be updated through e-mail. It go's on on. Brien -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server Do you have backups run on the laptops ? -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 16:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server I had the same problem. Instead of moving the users pst file to the exchange server, I imported them back into outlook let the pst file remain local on the pc. This solved several issues. 1) It kept the information store(users mailbox) small which in turn helps load outlook web faster. (If you import the users .pst file they are large .pst files it will take forever for the web client to load when they are on the road) 2) It gave our users a chance to keep all their old mail move the mail they wanted needed to view on the web to folders in the information store still have the web load fast. -Original Message- From: Chris Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes to another server Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP on one of the servers due to having to disable the router's DHCP in order to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web Access ports on the Exchange Server. Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes to another server
OK here it is in a nut shell!! 1) I have set up a GPO that specifies the users can't browse my network (no computers near me no entire network) This worked great. I tested this in no way was the user able to browse my network for computers or users. 2)In the same GPO I also specified that the users My Documents are to be redirected to a HIDDEN share on a server. 3) WE merged from SendMail to Exchange. Now they can browse the network through outlook. Heres how how can I prevent this open outlook go to VIEW select Outlook Bar Folder List. On the Outlook Bar (Outlook shortcuts) click the Other short cuts tab. I see a folder with my logon name. If you do to click on it. This shows all of your MY Documents. Now look at the Folder List scroll up down. I see all my users all computers on my network. Why is this how can I prevent this? -Original Message- From: Don Ely - Verizon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server Bring it on! We might all want to hear about it. D -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server Hey You seem pretty smart!! Are you running win2k echange2k ? I have a question that has bothered me for some time. I think it might be a bug. Microsoft hasn't responded yet. Let me know if you want to hear about it -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server Hopefully you mean 1 DC is a bad idea From what he described it sounds like he is in a small network.(1 Dom = controller) Bad Idea. -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving mailboxes to another server Arrrhh. Surprised Martin William haven't responded yet. At = all costs import the PST's into your Private Information Store I = can't count the number of reasons why PST=3DBAD, but lets start with the most obvious: 1. If stored on a network share they take up much more space than if = part of your Priv.edb 2. They're less stable than the Exchange Information Store have a maximum size of 2GB. 3. User deletes PST from hard drive or computer is stolen and mail is GONE. 4. Information unavailable from OWA, or any computer that the PST is = not located on. You can move the Information Stores to a NAS or SAN device, but I don't think you can just put it on another network accessable file share. = Hard Drives are CHEAP, get bigger ones if necessary, 192GB NAS devices go for $2K-$3K. Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; = all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. = The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we = are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the = client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a = Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP = on one of the servers due to having to disable the router's DHCP in order = to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web = Access ports on the Exchange Server. =20 Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 = to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, = to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage = space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? =20 =20 TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Moving mailboxes to another server
Arrrhh. Surprised Martin William haven't responded yet. At all costs import the PST's into your Private Information Store I can't count the number of reasons why PST=BAD, but lets start with the most obvious: 1. If stored on a network share they take up much more space than if part of your Priv.edb 2. They're less stable than the Exchange Information Store have a maximum size of 2GB. 3. User deletes PST from hard drive or computer is stolen and mail is GONE. 4. Information unavailable from OWA, or any computer that the PST is not located on. You can move the Information Stores to a NAS or SAN device, but I don't think you can just put it on another network accessable file share. Hard Drives are CHEAP, get bigger ones if necessary, 192GB NAS devices go for $2K-$3K. Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP on one of the servers due to having to disable the routers DHCP in order to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web Access ports on the Exchange Server. Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes to another server
From what he described it sounds like he is in a small network.(1 Dom controller) Bad Idea. -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving mailboxes to another server Arrrhh. Surprised Martin William haven't responded yet. At all costs import the PST's into your Private Information Store I can't count the number of reasons why PST=BAD, but lets start with the most obvious: 1. If stored on a network share they take up much more space than if part of your Priv.edb 2. They're less stable than the Exchange Information Store have a maximum size of 2GB. 3. User deletes PST from hard drive or computer is stolen and mail is GONE. 4. Information unavailable from OWA, or any computer that the PST is not located on. You can move the Information Stores to a NAS or SAN device, but I don't think you can just put it on another network accessable file share. Hard Drives are CHEAP, get bigger ones if necessary, 192GB NAS devices go for $2K-$3K. Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP on one of the servers due to having to disable the router's DHCP in order to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web Access ports on the Exchange Server. Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes to another server
What's a bad idea??? From what he described it sounds like he is in a small network.(1 Dom = controller) Bad Idea. -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving mailboxes to another server Arrrhh. Surprised Martin William haven't responded yet. At = all costs import the PST's into your Private Information Store I = can't count the number of reasons why PST=3DBAD, but lets start with the most obvious: 1. If stored on a network share they take up much more space than if = part of your Priv.edb 2. They're less stable than the Exchange Information Store have a maximum size of 2GB. 3. User deletes PST from hard drive or computer is stolen and mail is GONE. 4. Information unavailable from OWA, or any computer that the PST is = not located on. You can move the Information Stores to a NAS or SAN device, but I don't think you can just put it on another network accessable file share. = Hard Drives are CHEAP, get bigger ones if necessary, 192GB NAS devices go for $2K-$3K. Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; = all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. = The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we = are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the = client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a = Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP = on one of the servers due to having to disable the router's DHCP in order = to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web = Access ports on the Exchange Server. =20 Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 = to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, = to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage = space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? =20 =20 TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes to another server
Hopefully you mean 1 DC is a bad idea From what he described it sounds like he is in a small network.(1 Dom = controller) Bad Idea. -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving mailboxes to another server Arrrhh. Surprised Martin William haven't responded yet. At = all costs import the PST's into your Private Information Store I = can't count the number of reasons why PST=3DBAD, but lets start with the most obvious: 1. If stored on a network share they take up much more space than if = part of your Priv.edb 2. They're less stable than the Exchange Information Store have a maximum size of 2GB. 3. User deletes PST from hard drive or computer is stolen and mail is GONE. 4. Information unavailable from OWA, or any computer that the PST is = not located on. You can move the Information Stores to a NAS or SAN device, but I don't think you can just put it on another network accessable file share. = Hard Drives are CHEAP, get bigger ones if necessary, 192GB NAS devices go for $2K-$3K. Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; = all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. = The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we = are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the = client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a = Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP = on one of the servers due to having to disable the router's DHCP in order = to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web = Access ports on the Exchange Server. =20 Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 = to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, = to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage = space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? =20 =20 TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes to another server
Yes I was referring to the DC. I think I would spend the money on a new DC before I spent it on new hard drives for exchange.Thats why I gave him the solution I used. If you think about it it is not a bad one. All important mail remains on the server If you like to keep your sent mail for records then keep them in a pst. Who cares if you loose that crap or mail that is over a year old. -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server Hopefully you mean 1 DC is a bad idea From what he described it sounds like he is in a small network.(1 Dom = controller) Bad Idea. -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving mailboxes to another server Arrrhh. Surprised Martin William haven't responded yet. At = all costs import the PST's into your Private Information Store I = can't count the number of reasons why PST=3DBAD, but lets start with the most obvious: 1. If stored on a network share they take up much more space than if = part of your Priv.edb 2. They're less stable than the Exchange Information Store have a maximum size of 2GB. 3. User deletes PST from hard drive or computer is stolen and mail is GONE. 4. Information unavailable from OWA, or any computer that the PST is = not located on. You can move the Information Stores to a NAS or SAN device, but I don't think you can just put it on another network accessable file share. = Hard Drives are CHEAP, get bigger ones if necessary, 192GB NAS devices go for $2K-$3K. Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; = all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. = The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we = are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the = client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a = Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP = on one of the servers due to having to disable the router's DHCP in order = to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web = Access ports on the Exchange Server. =20 Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 = to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, = to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage = space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? =20 =20 TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes to another server
Hey You seem pretty smart!! Are you running win2k echange2k ? I have a question that has bothered me for some time. I think it might be a bug. Microsoft hasn't responded yet. Let me know if you want to hear about it -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server Hopefully you mean 1 DC is a bad idea From what he described it sounds like he is in a small network.(1 Dom = controller) Bad Idea. -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving mailboxes to another server Arrrhh. Surprised Martin William haven't responded yet. At = all costs import the PST's into your Private Information Store I = can't count the number of reasons why PST=3DBAD, but lets start with the most obvious: 1. If stored on a network share they take up much more space than if = part of your Priv.edb 2. They're less stable than the Exchange Information Store have a maximum size of 2GB. 3. User deletes PST from hard drive or computer is stolen and mail is GONE. 4. Information unavailable from OWA, or any computer that the PST is = not located on. You can move the Information Stores to a NAS or SAN device, but I don't think you can just put it on another network accessable file share. = Hard Drives are CHEAP, get bigger ones if necessary, 192GB NAS devices go for $2K-$3K. Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; = all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. = The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we = are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the = client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a = Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP = on one of the servers due to having to disable the router's DHCP in order = to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web = Access ports on the Exchange Server. =20 Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 = to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, = to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage = space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? =20 =20 TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes to another server
Bring it on! We might all want to hear about it. D -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server Hey You seem pretty smart!! Are you running win2k echange2k ? I have a question that has bothered me for some time. I think it might be a bug. Microsoft hasn't responded yet. Let me know if you want to hear about it -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server Hopefully you mean 1 DC is a bad idea From what he described it sounds like he is in a small network.(1 Dom = controller) Bad Idea. -Original Message- From: Patrick Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Moving mailboxes to another server Arrrhh. Surprised Martin William haven't responded yet. At = all costs import the PST's into your Private Information Store I = can't count the number of reasons why PST=3DBAD, but lets start with the most obvious: 1. If stored on a network share they take up much more space than if = part of your Priv.edb 2. They're less stable than the Exchange Information Store have a maximum size of 2GB. 3. User deletes PST from hard drive or computer is stolen and mail is GONE. 4. Information unavailable from OWA, or any computer that the PST is = not located on. You can move the Information Stores to a NAS or SAN device, but I don't think you can just put it on another network accessable file share. = Hard Drives are CHEAP, get bigger ones if necessary, 192GB NAS devices go for $2K-$3K. Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; = all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. = The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we = are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the = client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a = Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP = on one of the servers due to having to disable the router's DHCP in order = to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web = Access ports on the Exchange Server. =20 Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 = to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, = to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage = space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? =20 =20 TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving mailboxes to another server
Do you have backups run on the laptops ? -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 16:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving mailboxes to another server I had the same problem. Instead of moving the users pst file to the exchange server, I imported them back into outlook let the pst file remain local on the pc. This solved several issues. 1) It kept the information store(users mailbox) small which in turn helps load outlook web faster. (If you import the users .pst file they are large .pst files it will take forever for the web client to load when they are on the road) 2) It gave our users a chance to keep all their old mail move the mail they wanted needed to view on the web to folders in the information store still have the web load fast. -Original Message- From: Chris Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Moving mailboxes to another server Quick overview: We have one domain controller and two member servers in the Forest; all are running Server 2000 with Service pack 2 and latest security patches. The Exchange Server has Norton 3.0 Anti Virus filters for the Exchange; we are using Norton Corporate Edition 7.6 over the entire network, with the client installed on all workstations. We have a 768 kbps DSL line with a Linksys BEFVPN41 router plugged directly into our 24 port switch. I setup DHCP on one of the servers due to having to disable the router's DHCP in order to do the necessary port forwarding for the Exchange Mail and Outlook Web Access ports on the Exchange Server. Question: We would like to move all data from Personal Folders in Outlook 2000 to the Exchange user mail boxes enabling their inbox, contacts, calendar, to be visible on the OWA page. That brings up the issue of drive storage space; is it possible to move the mail box/Pub stores over to one of the network drives on our storage server without reinstallation? TIA, Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
More info .. jd -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: moving mailboxes and having problems Use profgen in your logon script. http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=4853 Also, add an x500 address to the new mailbox so that old mail sitting in other mailboxes in your org sent from the original mailbox will not be returned as undeliverable upon reply. X500 addresses are in this format: /O=Orgname/OU=Sitename/cn=oldcontainername/cn=oldalias (or same alias) Add new other address. The Address type is x500. Looks like you will need to become proficient in excel to do this efficiently. -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: moving mailboxes and having problems Good afternoon, Exchange 5.5 sp4 and Outlook 98. When moving mailboxes from one container to another is it true that a person's profile has to be refreshed by doing a check name after keying in the mailbox name? I have been testing this and find that it is true. We have 1638 mailboxes to move from one container to another. We are doing the following: back up the mailbox to a PST, delete the mailbox, add the mailbox to the correct container, restore the mailbox from the PST. Then when trying to sign in we get unable to open default folders. I thought it might be a timing (synching problem) so I wanted 20 hours and still get the same error. Please let me know if you know of an easier way to move these mailboxes. (I know Kevin Snook company has mailbox mover but that is one at a time also and we really haven't got that to work either.) Happy holidays. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Sorry. didn't mean to address this to the list .. jd -Original Message- From: Donahue, Judy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: moving mailboxes and having problems More info .. jd -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: moving mailboxes and having problems Use profgen in your logon script. http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=4853 Also, add an x500 address to the new mailbox so that old mail sitting in other mailboxes in your org sent from the original mailbox will not be returned as undeliverable upon reply. X500 addresses are in this format: /O=Orgname/OU=Sitename/cn=oldcontainername/cn=oldalias (or same alias) Add new other address. The Address type is x500. Looks like you will need to become proficient in excel to do this efficiently. -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: moving mailboxes and having problems Good afternoon, Exchange 5.5 sp4 and Outlook 98. When moving mailboxes from one container to another is it true that a person's profile has to be refreshed by doing a check name after keying in the mailbox name? I have been testing this and find that it is true. We have 1638 mailboxes to move from one container to another. We are doing the following: back up the mailbox to a PST, delete the mailbox, add the mailbox to the correct container, restore the mailbox from the PST. Then when trying to sign in we get unable to open default folders. I thought it might be a timing (synching problem) so I wanted 20 hours and still get the same error. Please let me know if you know of an easier way to move these mailboxes. (I know Kevin Snook company has mailbox mover but that is one at a time also and we really haven't got that to work either.) Happy holidays. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Hey Kevin, We did try mailbox mover out for the single account. It worked just fine. I have sent you several eMAILs asking if you had mailbox mover for multiple mailboxes completed yet. I have heard nothing. We would really like to use your tools and are aniously awaiting them into production. Please let me know as soon as possible so we can proceed. Happy new year. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: moving mailboxes and having problems Hey Mike, Thanks for the feedback! I spend a lot of time making these utilities available to people but have to rely on them to give me feedback if they don't appear to work. It's not too much to ask, is it? Wouldn't you supply feedback to a company if you had bought the product? I get a bit fed up with guys who take the products we produce (FOR FREE!), provide no feedback, then whinge about them appearing not to work. MailMover DOES work, I have about 300 companies using it satisfactorily. If you have trouble with profiles, I would suggest my createprf tool but then you'd probably not be able to get that to work either!! Happy New Year! Kevin -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 December 2001 19:20 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: moving mailboxes and having problems Good afternoon, Exchange 5.5 sp4 and Outlook 98. When moving mailboxes from one container to another is it true that a person's profile has to be refreshed by doing a check name after keying in the mailbox name? I have been testing this and find that it is true. We have 1638 mailboxes to move from one container to another. We are doing the following: back up the mailbox to a PST, delete the mailbox, add the mailbox to the correct container, restore the mailbox from the PST. Then when trying to sign in we get unable to open default folders. I thought it might be a timing (synching problem) so I wanted 20 hours and still get the same error. Please let me know if you know of an easier way to move these mailboxes. (I know Kevin Snook company has mailbox mover but that is one at a time also and we really haven't got that to work either.) Happy holidays. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Hey Mike, Thanks for the feedback! I spend a lot of time making these utilities available to people but have to rely on them to give me feedback if they don't appear to work. It's not too much to ask, is it? Wouldn't you supply feedback to a company if you had bought the product? I get a bit fed up with guys who take the products we produce (FOR FREE!), provide no feedback, then whinge about them appearing not to work. MailMover DOES work, I have about 300 companies using it satisfactorily. If you have trouble with profiles, I would suggest my createprf tool but then you'd probably not be able to get that to work either!! Happy New Year! Kevin -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 December 2001 19:20 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: moving mailboxes and having problems Good afternoon, Exchange 5.5 sp4 and Outlook 98. When moving mailboxes from one container to another is it true that a person's profile has to be refreshed by doing a check name after keying in the mailbox name? I have been testing this and find that it is true. We have 1638 mailboxes to move from one container to another. We are doing the following: back up the mailbox to a PST, delete the mailbox, add the mailbox to the correct container, restore the mailbox from the PST. Then when trying to sign in we get unable to open default folders. I thought it might be a timing (synching problem) so I wanted 20 hours and still get the same error. Please let me know if you know of an easier way to move these mailboxes. (I know Kevin Snook company has mailbox mover but that is one at a time also and we really haven't got that to work either.) Happy holidays. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Wouldn't it be easier to do a backup with say Ntbackup or the like ? -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 14:20 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: moving mailboxes and having problems Good afternoon, Exchange 5.5 sp4 and Outlook 98. When moving mailboxes from one container to another is it true that a person's profile has to be refreshed by doing a check name after keying in the mailbox name? I have been testing this and find that it is true. We have 1638 mailboxes to move from one container to another. We are doing the following: back up the mailbox to a PST, delete the mailbox, add the mailbox to the correct container, restore the mailbox from the PST. Then when trying to sign in we get unable to open default folders. I thought it might be a timing (synching problem) so I wanted 20 hours and still get the same error. Please let me know if you know of an easier way to move these mailboxes. (I know Kevin Snook company has mailbox mover but that is one at a time also and we really haven't got that to work either.) Happy holidays. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Hi, Thought the Exmerge utility is used for this purpose? I am no expert and you may have to wait for them to come back after the holidays. Ong LB Singapore -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 3:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: moving mailboxes and having problems Good afternoon, Exchange 5.5 sp4 and Outlook 98. When moving mailboxes from one container to another is it true that a person's profile has to be refreshed by doing a check name after keying in the mailbox name? I have been testing this and find that it is true. We have 1638 mailboxes to move from one container to another. We are doing the following: back up the mailbox to a PST, delete the mailbox, add the mailbox to the correct container, restore the mailbox from the PST. Then when trying to sign in we get unable to open default folders. I thought it might be a timing (synching problem) so I wanted 20 hours and still get the same error. Please let me know if you know of an easier way to move these mailboxes. (I know Kevin Snook company has mailbox mover but that is one at a time also and we really haven't got that to work either.) Happy holidays. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: moving mailboxes and having problems
Use profgen in your logon script. http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=4853 Also, add an x500 address to the new mailbox so that old mail sitting in other mailboxes in your org sent from the original mailbox will not be returned as undeliverable upon reply. X500 addresses are in this format: /O=Orgname/OU=Sitename/cn=oldcontainername/cn=oldalias (or same alias) Add new other address. The Address type is x500. Looks like you will need to become proficient in excel to do this efficiently. -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: moving mailboxes and having problems Good afternoon, Exchange 5.5 sp4 and Outlook 98. When moving mailboxes from one container to another is it true that a person's profile has to be refreshed by doing a check name after keying in the mailbox name? I have been testing this and find that it is true. We have 1638 mailboxes to move from one container to another. We are doing the following: back up the mailbox to a PST, delete the mailbox, add the mailbox to the correct container, restore the mailbox from the PST. Then when trying to sign in we get unable to open default folders. I thought it might be a timing (synching problem) so I wanted 20 hours and still get the same error. Please let me know if you know of an easier way to move these mailboxes. (I know Kevin Snook company has mailbox mover but that is one at a time also and we really haven't got that to work either.) Happy holidays. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving Mailboxes between 5.5 servers
Mary, Q195490 confirms it for you. I have done hardware upgrades on a number of Exchange servers and have found the forklift method to work without a hitch. An explanation of that method can be found in Q199954. Tim Jensen Cingular Wireless, Chicago -Original Message- From: Lake, Mary Elizabeth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: Lake, Mary Elizabeth Subject: Moving Mailboxes between 5.5 servers We are upgrading the hardware on our Exchange server, and will probably go the route of two Exchange servers online in the same site, move mailboxes one workgroup at a time and then take the old server offline. In my testing, however, I have run across something puzzling, which I cannot seem to run down in Technet or on the MS website. (Perhaps I'm just not asking the right question). When I move a mailbox from one server to another, and then compare the resources, I get some pretty startling differences in numbers (although not in mailbox size) - yet, I cannot seem to find anything actually missing... For example: OLD SERVER: Total K: 36,380 Total No. of Items: 3,254 Total No. of Associated Items: 73 NEW SERVER: Total K: 36,280 Total No. of Items: 571 Total No. of Associated Items: 21 What am I losing? I can't seem to find anything obvious? Does anyone know, or can you point me in the right direction to figure it out? Thanks, Mary Elizabeth Mary Elizabeth Lake I.S. Support Services - NW Natural Phone: (503) 226-4211 x5565 eMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Moving Mailboxes between 5.5 servers
Just a guess, I may be wrong. Ever come across a user case that the Outlook profile is corrupted, and the number is not correct. She has deleted a lot of mails but the total no of items still remains. Creating a new Outlook profile solved the problem. Ong LB Exchange Administrator National Institute of Education Nanyang Technological University Singapore -Original Message- From: Bibel, Laura Y. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Mailboxes between 5.5 servers Dumpster items aren't moved when the mailbox is moved but I don't know if that accounts for the difference in the number of items. Laura Bibel Allegheny Energy: Information Services Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lake, Mary Elizabeth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: Lake, Mary Elizabeth Subject: Moving Mailboxes between 5.5 servers We are upgrading the hardware on our Exchange server, and will probably go the route of two Exchange servers online in the same site, move mailboxes one workgroup at a time and then take the old server offline. In my testing, however, I have run across something puzzling, which I cannot seem to run down in Technet or on the MS website. (Perhaps I'm just not asking the right question). When I move a mailbox from one server to another, and then compare the resources, I get some pretty startling differences in numbers (although not in mailbox size) - yet, I cannot seem to find anything actually missing... For example: OLD SERVER: Total K: 36,380 Total No. of Items: 3,254 Total No. of Associated Items: 73 NEW SERVER: Total K: 36,280 Total No. of Items: 571 Total No. of Associated Items: 21 What am I losing? I can't seem to find anything obvious? Does anyone know, or can you point me in the right direction to figure it out? Thanks, Mary Elizabeth Mary Elizabeth Lake I.S. Support Services - NW Natural Phone: (503) 226-4211 x5565 eMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
