RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!

2002-07-17 Thread Brien Mayer

Problem Solve. How many of you know about this? Sounds very interesting almost like a 
SQL database.
** Microsoft Gives Glimpse Of New Exchange

Microsoft has begun to share details of updates to its Exchange 
E-mail system and Outlook E-mail client, and company officials 
say the releases--slated for mid-2003--will address three key 
needs by improving inbox management, beefing up wireless access, 
and making it possible to support more users with each Exchange 
server. The release figures to be important in the history of 
Exchange, with IBM's Lotus Software set to release the update to 
its Notes/Domino system this fall and Oracle planning to 
introduce a cheaper alternative by year's end.

The new Exchange, code-named Titanium, will let information 
workers make better use of their E-mail, while driving down costs 
for administrators. On the back end, Exchange will include the 
ability to create a volume shadow copy, essentially a snapshot 
of the Exchange database that can be taken at frequent intervals 
throughout the day, preventing IT staff from having to re-create 
histories or refer to backup tapes when problems occur. The 
result is a quick-response capability that will let 
administrators support more users from a single Exchange server, 
lead product manager Chris Baker says.

Titanium also will include out-of-the-box support for wireless 
E-mail access via PDAs and cell phones, which now requires the 
deployment of Microsoft's mobile information server. 

Users also will get an updated version of Outlook for accessing 
their messages. The new client will feature a different look 
designed to improve message readability, inbox organization, and 
search capabilities. - Tony Kontzer


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well now it does. A while ago it BAS

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing

RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!

2002-07-17 Thread Ely, Don

I'd bet a great many of us know about it and have known about it for some
time now...

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!


Problem Solve. How many of you know about this? Sounds very interesting
almost like a SQL database.
** Microsoft Gives Glimpse Of New Exchange

Microsoft has begun to share details of updates to its Exchange 
E-mail system and Outlook E-mail client, and company officials 
say the releases--slated for mid-2003--will address three key 
needs by improving inbox management, beefing up wireless access, 
and making it possible to support more users with each Exchange 
server. The release figures to be important in the history of 
Exchange, with IBM's Lotus Software set to release the update to 
its Notes/Domino system this fall and Oracle planning to 
introduce a cheaper alternative by year's end.

The new Exchange, code-named Titanium, will let information 
workers make better use of their E-mail, while driving down costs 
for administrators. On the back end, Exchange will include the 
ability to create a volume shadow copy, essentially a snapshot 
of the Exchange database that can be taken at frequent intervals 
throughout the day, preventing IT staff from having to re-create 
histories or refer to backup tapes when problems occur. The 
result is a quick-response capability that will let 
administrators support more users from a single Exchange server, 
lead product manager Chris Baker says.

Titanium also will include out-of-the-box support for wireless 
E-mail access via PDAs and cell phones, which now requires the 
deployment of Microsoft's mobile information server. 

Users also will get an updated version of Outlook for accessing 
their messages. The new client will feature a different look 
designed to improve message readability, inbox organization, and 
search capabilities. - Tony Kontzer


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well now it does. A while ago it BAS

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-17 Thread TWU-Durham, Ryan

Here's a solution to checkout http://www.stratus.com 

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server

What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't
get the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
the same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched 
searched for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard
edition of exchange with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-17 Thread Brien Mayer

That is very cool!! I just forwarded the link to my manager. 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: TWU-Durham, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Here's a solution to checkout http://www.stratus.com 

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server

What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't
get the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
the same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched 
searched for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard
edition of exchange with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

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RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!

2002-07-17 Thread Chris Peden

Exchange has been scheduled to use SQL for the backend for many years,
but they are way behind.

Thanks,
-Chris-
IT Director
Sundowner Interiors


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!


Problem Solve. How many of you know about this? Sounds very interesting
almost like a SQL database.
** Microsoft Gives Glimpse Of New Exchange

Microsoft has begun to share details of updates to its Exchange 
E-mail system and Outlook E-mail client, and company officials 
say the releases--slated for mid-2003--will address three key 
needs by improving inbox management, beefing up wireless access, 
and making it possible to support more users with each Exchange 
server. The release figures to be important in the history of 
Exchange, with IBM's Lotus Software set to release the update to 
its Notes/Domino system this fall and Oracle planning to 
introduce a cheaper alternative by year's end.

The new Exchange, code-named Titanium, will let information 
workers make better use of their E-mail, while driving down costs 
for administrators. On the back end, Exchange will include the 
ability to create a volume shadow copy, essentially a snapshot 
of the Exchange database that can be taken at frequent intervals 
throughout the day, preventing IT staff from having to re-create 
histories or refer to backup tapes when problems occur. The 
result is a quick-response capability that will let 
administrators support more users from a single Exchange server, 
lead product manager Chris Baker says.

Titanium also will include out-of-the-box support for wireless 
E-mail access via PDAs and cell phones, which now requires the 
deployment of Microsoft's mobile information server. 

Users also will get an updated version of Outlook for accessing 
their messages. The new client will feature a different look 
designed to improve message readability, inbox organization, and 
search capabilities. - Tony Kontzer


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well now it does. A while ago it BAS

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same
hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them
this. They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to
E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime
would be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database
utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller,
databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt

RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!

2002-07-17 Thread Andy David

Transporter Beams have been planned as well, but they are way behind.


-Original Message-
From: Chris Peden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!


Exchange has been scheduled to use SQL for the backend for many years,
but they are way behind.

Thanks,
-Chris-
IT Director
Sundowner Interiors


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!


Problem Solve. How many of you know about this? Sounds very interesting
almost like a SQL database.
** Microsoft Gives Glimpse Of New Exchange

Microsoft has begun to share details of updates to its Exchange 
E-mail system and Outlook E-mail client, and company officials 
say the releases--slated for mid-2003--will address three key 
needs by improving inbox management, beefing up wireless access, 
and making it possible to support more users with each Exchange 
server. The release figures to be important in the history of 
Exchange, with IBM's Lotus Software set to release the update to 
its Notes/Domino system this fall and Oracle planning to 
introduce a cheaper alternative by year's end.

The new Exchange, code-named Titanium, will let information 
workers make better use of their E-mail, while driving down costs 
for administrators. On the back end, Exchange will include the 
ability to create a volume shadow copy, essentially a snapshot 
of the Exchange database that can be taken at frequent intervals 
throughout the day, preventing IT staff from having to re-create 
histories or refer to backup tapes when problems occur. The 
result is a quick-response capability that will let 
administrators support more users from a single Exchange server, 
lead product manager Chris Baker says.

Titanium also will include out-of-the-box support for wireless 
E-mail access via PDAs and cell phones, which now requires the 
deployment of Microsoft's mobile information server. 

Users also will get an updated version of Outlook for accessing 
their messages. The new client will feature a different look 
designed to improve message readability, inbox organization, and 
search capabilities. - Tony Kontzer


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well now it does. A while ago it BAS

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same
hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them
this. They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to
E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime
would be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database
utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller,
databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent

RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!

2002-07-17 Thread Tom Meunier

I don't know that I'd use the word scheduled.  That implies DrLaura
a ring and a date /DrLaura.

God, I hate Dr. Laura.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Peden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 09:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!
 
 
 Exchange has been scheduled to use SQL for the backend for 
 many years, but they are way behind.
 
 Thanks,
 -Chris-
 IT Director
 Sundowner Interiors
 
 

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RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!

2002-07-17 Thread Schwartz, Jim

And we asked for a syrup warmer for our waffles, but have yet to hear
anything about that.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!


I don't know that I'd use the word scheduled.  That implies DrLaura
a ring and a date /DrLaura.

God, I hate Dr. Laura.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Peden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 09:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!
 
 
 Exchange has been scheduled to use SQL for the backend for 
 many years, but they are way behind.
 
 Thanks,
 -Chris-
 IT Director
 Sundowner Interiors
 
 

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Re: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!

2002-07-17 Thread Matthew Carpenter

They give you waffles? 

That is not as bad as the Krispy Kreme providers on the list but COME ON!!


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Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!


And we asked for a syrup warmer for our waffles, but have yet to hear
anything about that.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!


I don't know that I'd use the word scheduled.  That implies DrLaura
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God, I hate Dr. Laura.

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 09:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server !!SOLVED!!
 
 
 Exchange has been scheduled to use SQL for the backend for 
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 -Chris-
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-16 Thread William Lefkovics

Use an ASP and pay monthly.


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them
this. They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to
E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime
would be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database
utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller,
databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

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Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
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Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-16 Thread Clark, Steve

And if you're looking for a decent ASP - ASP One has been excellent so far -
they're less than $10 per month per mailbox and have top notch technical
support.

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-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server

Use an ASP and pay monthly.


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them
this. They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to
E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime
would be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database
utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller,
databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

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Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-16 Thread Martin Blackstone

Well now it does. A while ago it BAS

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
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exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Neil Hobson


Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
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Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


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exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Mark Kelsay

supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't
get the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Neil Hobson


That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Morse, George

Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't
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exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare  allow the 
users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to repair the store  
not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Mark Kelsay

Compaq?

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Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ely, Don

Hpaq?

-Original Message-
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To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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Compaq?

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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
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Neil

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Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
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Subject: Backup Server


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Martin Blackstone

You could look at a product called Double Take. But there is really no
supported Exchange replication system.

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To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
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Neil

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Subject: Backup Server


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Neil Hobson


That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to
E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime
would be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database
utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller,
databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
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Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
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Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
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Subject: Backup Server


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

I wouldn't have to replicate. I would just bring the new server up clean. No restore 
or anything just enough so they can receive their mail  I can rebuild the old one. 
Then switch them back over.
Question is how can I do this? Bring the server up with the same name. I have had 
problems with this in the past. I received messages like account already exits. I 
tried the /disaster recovery switch  it did help either. So is this possible ?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


You could look at a product called Double Take. But there is really no
supported Exchange replication system.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this. They want a 
cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to
E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime
would be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database
utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller,
databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't
get the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Martin Blackstone

Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Martin Blackstone

But that isn't going to help you if you have IS corruption. You still need
to restore from a backup.

Frankly it sounds like your company wants the greatest, but doesn't want to
pay a dime for it.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


I wouldn't have to replicate. I would just bring the new server up clean. No
restore or anything just enough so they can receive their mail  I can
rebuild the old one. Then switch them back over. Question is how can I do
this? Bring the server up with the same name. I have had problems with this
in the past. I received messages like account already exits. I tried the
/disaster recovery switch  it did help either. So is this possible ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


You could look at a product called Double Take. But there is really no
supported Exchange replication system.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
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Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I would use 
that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

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Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Martin Blackstone

Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

I know!! But like I said,they want to know what their options are with what we 
currently have. I was hoping someone on this list would be in the same predicament  
had a crazy idea that could work.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


But that isn't going to help you if you have IS corruption. You still need
to restore from a backup.

Frankly it sounds like your company wants the greatest, but doesn't want to
pay a dime for it.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


I wouldn't have to replicate. I would just bring the new server up clean. No
restore or anything just enough so they can receive their mail  I can
rebuild the old one. Then switch them back over. Question is how can I do
this? Bring the server up with the same name. I have had problems with this
in the past. I received messages like account already exits. I tried the
/disaster recovery switch  it did help either. So is this possible ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


You could look at a product called Double Take. But there is really no
supported Exchange replication system.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread David N. Precht

Whats the limits on the mailboxs?  If they don't want to pay, then lock
it down harder with lower limits.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them
this. They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to
E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime
would be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database
utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller,
databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't
get the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
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2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

no! It's not broken. I just tried  I was able to get to it. I also said intranet not 
internet. also the www site runs on apache.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ely, Don

Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
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Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
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Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

100megs. I tried that as you can see I lost that battle

-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Whats the limits on the mailboxs?  If they don't want to pay, then lock
it down harder with lower limits.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them
this. They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to
E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime
would be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database
utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller,
databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare
 allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


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Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Martin Blackstone

Here is what I would do for starters.

Figure out the cost of additional hardware and software.
Figure out how long it would take you to restore everything to that box and
get folks up and running.

Frankly you cant find a solution to every scenario. Like was said before,
even clustering which while troublesome with Exchange already is still
probably the best solution, even it wont save you from a IS issue.

Present that to management and see what they say. Essentially tell them that
they will have to pay to play.


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


I know!! But like I said,they want to know what their options are with what
we currently have. I was hoping someone on this list would be in the same
predicament  had a crazy idea that could work.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


But that isn't going to help you if you have IS corruption. You still need
to restore from a backup.

Frankly it sounds like your company wants the greatest, but doesn't want to
pay a dime for it.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


I wouldn't have to replicate. I would just bring the new server up clean. No
restore or anything just enough so they can receive their mail  I can
rebuild the old one. Then switch them back over. Question is how can I do
this? Bring the server up with the same name. I have had problems with this
in the past. I received messages like account already exits. I tried the
/disaster recovery switch  it did help either. So is this possible ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


You could look at a product called Double Take. But there is really no
supported Exchange replication system.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard edition of exchange
with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ely, Don

That is the exact and only scenario available here...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Here is what I would do for starters.

Figure out the cost of additional hardware and software.
Figure out how long it would take you to restore everything to that box and
get folks up and running.

Frankly you cant find a solution to every scenario. Like was said before,
even clustering which while troublesome with Exchange already is still
probably the best solution, even it wont save you from a IS issue.

Present that to management and see what they say. Essentially tell them that
they will have to pay to play.


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


I know!! But like I said,they want to know what their options are with what
we currently have. I was hoping someone on this list would be in the same
predicament  had a crazy idea that could work.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


But that isn't going to help you if you have IS corruption. You still need
to restore from a backup.

Frankly it sounds like your company wants the greatest, but doesn't want to
pay a dime for it.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


I wouldn't have to replicate. I would just bring the new server up clean. No
restore or anything just enough so they can receive their mail  I can
rebuild the old one. Then switch them back over. Question is how can I do
this? Bring the server up with the same name. I have had problems with this
in the past. I received messages like account already exits. I tried the
/disaster recovery switch  it did help either. So is this possible ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


You could look at a product called Double Take. But there is really no
supported Exchange replication system.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
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with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread David James

Exchange works great clustered, which is what he wants to do.

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server

Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't
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exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Neil Hobson


But that doesn't protect against database corruption.  In that scenario,
the ROI for clustering would be a minus figure!

Neil

-Original Message-
From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 15:44
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Exchange works great clustered, which is what he wants to do.

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server

Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't
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exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard edition of exchange
with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Jeremiah Watson

PA, Near Pittsburgh,

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard edition of exchange
with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ely, Don

Well, here in NC it works great.  :P

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


PA, Near Pittsburgh,

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard edition of exchange
with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Jeremiah Watson

I'm surprised there wasn't a 

Neaner, Neaner, Neaner  After that :-P

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, here in NC it works great.  :P

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


PA, Near Pittsburgh,

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard edition of exchange
with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Tom Meunier

Are you sure?  Didja buy some tires?

It was broken from Austin earlier, now it's up  running.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 09:53 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Well, here in NC it works great.  :P
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 PA, Near Pittsburgh,
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Where are you?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Not out here it doesn't.  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Works here...  :P
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/
 
 You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ely, Don

I thought about saying If page cannot be displayed, please contact your
systems administrator  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


I'm surprised there wasn't a 

Neaner, Neaner, Neaner  After that :-P

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, here in NC it works great.  :P

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


PA, Near Pittsburgh,

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard edition of exchange
with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look into why you can't view our 
site. Thanks for the heads up

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


PA, Near Pittsburgh,

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard edition of exchange
with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ely, Don

Well, I just went to the home page.  I wasn't really interested in any
tires...  :o)

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:09 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Are you sure?  Didja buy some tires?

It was broken from Austin earlier, now it's up  running.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 09:53 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Well, here in NC it works great.  :P
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 PA, Near Pittsburgh,
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Where are you?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Not out here it doesn't.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Works here...  :P
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Backup Server
 
 
 Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/
 
 You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Jeremiah Watson

Hey,  While your at it,  Can you send me some new

Bf Goodrich's  265/75/r15(Free of charge) of Course.  :-)  

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look into why you can't view our 
site. Thanks for the heads up

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


PA, Near Pittsburgh,

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard edition of exchange
with the latest patches. Thanks in advance

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Brien Mayer

I wish I could get free tires. Sorry but we probably have them on sale. Check the web 
site.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Hey,  While your at it,  Can you send me some new

Bf Goodrich's  265/75/r15(Free of charge) of Course.  :-)  

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look into why you can't view our 
site. Thanks for the heads up

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


PA, Near Pittsburgh,

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched  searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard edition of exchange
with the latest patches. Thanks

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Jeremiah Watson

I can't check the Website. :P

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


I wish I could get free tires. Sorry but we probably have them on sale. Check the web 
site.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Hey,  While your at it,  Can you send me some new

Bf Goodrich's  265/75/r15(Free of charge) of Course.  :-)  

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look into why you can't view our 
site. Thanks for the heads up

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


PA, Near Pittsburgh,

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare 
allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ray Zorz

Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear Wrangler RT/S.  Just left
one shredded on the freeway.  It really sucks changing tires in this
heat. 

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Hey,  While your at it,  Can you send me some new

Bf Goodrich's  265/75/r15(Free of charge) of Course.  :-)  

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look into why you
can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


PA, Near Pittsburgh,

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Where are you?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Works here...  :P

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same
hardware. I
would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them
this.
They want a cheaper way.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's actually quite a tricky one.

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not upgrade to
E2k
enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your downtime
would
be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the database
utilities
wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare

allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I
need to
repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server


Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.

George

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



That's what RAID is for.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server


supposed the problem is the disks?

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by.  If the production
server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: Backup Server


Someone posted the question last week about a backup server  I didn't
get
the reply. I have been tasked with coming up with a solution for our
exchange2k disaster recovery plan. 
Is it possible to install exchange on another server configured exactly
the
same as our current one  leave it as a hot spare. I've searched 
searched
for articles. Any one have any? I'm running the standard

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry
Title: RE: Backup Server





Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest for our T1. 


Sherry Abercrombie
Data Center Administration Team
Information Technology
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.




-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear Wrangler RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It really sucks changing tires in this heat. 

-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Hey, While your at it, Can you send me some new


Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of Course. :-) 


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look into why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up


-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



PA, Near Pittsburgh,


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Where are you?


-Original Message-
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Not out here it doesn't. 


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Works here... :P


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/


You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license.


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them this. They want a cheaper way.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server




That's actually quite a tricky one.


Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage. Why not upgrade to E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases? At least your downtime would be minimised if you split your users well. Running the database utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server



What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up the spare  allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the time I need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message-
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server



Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not the drives.


George


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server




That's what RAID is for. :-)


Neil


-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject: RE: Backup Server



supposed the problem is the disks?


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server




Have a spare server of the same hardware standing by. If the production server dies, bung the disks in the standby server.

Neil


-Original Message-
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:10
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Backup Server
Subject

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Bill Beckett

I'm sorry Sherry


-Original Message-
From:   Abercrombie, Sherry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, July 15, 2002 2:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: Backup Server

Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest for our T1.  

Sherry Abercrombie 
Data Center Administration Team 
Information Technology 
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. 



-Original Message- 
From: Ray Zorz [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:42 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear Wrangler RT/S.  Just
left one shredded on the freeway.  It really sucks changing tires in this
heat. 

-Original Message- 
From: Jeremiah Watson [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:14 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


Hey,  While your at it,  Can you send me some new 

Bf Goodrich's  265/75/r15(Free of charge) of Course.  :-)  

-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look into why
you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up 

-Original Message- 
From: Jeremiah Watson [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


PA, Near Pittsburgh, 

-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


Where are you? 

-Original Message- 
From: Jeremiah Watson [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


Not out here it doesn't.  

-Original Message- 
From: Ely, Don [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


Works here...  :P 

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Blackstone [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/
http://www.merchantstire.com/  

You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server license. 

-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the same
hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message- 
From: Martin Blackstone [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper. 

-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 


The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to tell them
this. They want a cheaper way. 

-Original Message- 
From: Neil Hobson [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Backup Server 



That's actually quite a tricky one. 

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage.  Why not
upgrade to E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases?  At least your
downtime would be minimised if you split your users well.  Running the
database utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller,
databases.

Neil 

-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29 
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List 
Conversation: Backup Server 
Subject: RE: Backup Server

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



I'm 
thinking he uses qwest for his own internet access, hence the 
qwest.net...

  
  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, 
  Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:57 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest for our 
  T1. 
  Sherry Abercrombie Data Center 
  Administration Team Information Technology 
  "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." 
  
  -Original Message- From: Ray 
  Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear Wrangler 
  RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It really sucks 
  changing tires in this heat. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Hey, While your at it, Can you send me some 
  new 
  Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of 
  Course. :-) 
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look into 
  why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  PA, Near Pittsburgh, 
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Where are you? 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Not out here it doesn't. 
  -Original Message- From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Works here... :P 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/ 
  You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server 
  license. 
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the 
  same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper. 
  
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to 
  tell them this. They want a cheaper way. 
  -Original Message- From: Neil 
  Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  That's actually quite a tricky one. 
  Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage. Why 
  not upgrade to E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases? At least 
  your downtime would be minimised if you split your users well. Running 
  the database utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, 
  databases.
  Neil 
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: 
  Backup Server Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up 
  the spare  allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the 
  time I need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not 
  the drives. 
  George 
  -Original Message- From: Neil 
  Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  That's what RAID is for. :-) 
  Neil 
  -Original Message- From: Mark 
  Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:17 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: 
  Backup Server Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  supposed the problem is

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Andy David
Title: Message



Just 
answer my qwestion!


  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:05 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  I'm 
  thinking he uses qwest for his own internet access, hence the 
  qwest.net...
  

-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, 
Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:57 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server
Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest for our 
T1. 
Sherry Abercrombie Data Center 
Administration Team Information Technology 
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." 

-Original Message- From: Ray 
Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:42 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear Wrangler 
RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It really sucks 
changing tires in this heat. 
-Original Message- From: 
Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
Hey, While your at it, Can you send me some 
new 
Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of 
Course. :-) 
-Original Message- From: 
Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look 
into why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up 
-Original Message- From: 
Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
PA, Near Pittsburgh, 
-Original Message- From: 
Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
Where are you? 
-Original Message- From: 
Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
Not out here it doesn't. 
-Original Message- From: 
Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
Works here... :P 
-Original Message- From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/ 
You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server 
license. 
-Original Message- From: 
Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the 
same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 
-Original Message- From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper. 

-Original Message- From: 
Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to 
tell them this. They want a cheaper way. 
-Original Message- From: 
Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
That's actually quite a tricky one. 
Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage. 
Why not upgrade to E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases? At 
least your downtime would be minimised if you split your users well. 
Running the database utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, 
smaller, databases.
Neil 
-Original Message- From: 
Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Backup Server Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire 
up the spare  allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me 
the time I need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message- From: 
Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
    Backup Server 
Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not 
the drives. 
George 
-Original Message

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: Message



I have 
qwest VDSL to the house. I'm in a new neighborhood that has fiber to the 
curb, althoughthey said my neighborhood will be the last like 
this.Now they're going to go fiber to the neighborhood then copper to the 
house. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, 
  Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:57 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest for our 
  T1. 
  Sherry Abercrombie Data Center 
  Administration Team Information Technology 
  "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." 
  
  -Original Message- From: Ray 
  Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear Wrangler 
  RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It really sucks 
  changing tires in this heat. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Hey, While your at it, Can you send me some 
  new 
  Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of 
  Course. :-) 
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to look into 
  why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  PA, Near Pittsburgh, 
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Where are you? 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Not out here it doesn't. 
  -Original Message- From: Ely, 
  Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Works here... :P 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/ 
  You would still need to purchase another Exchange Server 
  license. 
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly the 
  same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper. 
  
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I tried to 
  tell them this. They want a cheaper way. 
  -Original Message- From: Neil 
  Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  That's actually quite a tricky one. 
  Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared storage. Why 
  not upgrade to E2k enterprise and implement multiple databases? At least 
  your downtime would be minimised if you split your users well. Running 
  the database utilities wouldn't take that much time with multiple, smaller, 
  databases.
  Neil 
  -Original Message- From: Brien 
  Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: 
  Backup Server Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  What if it is with the database? I want to be able to fire up 
  the spare  allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give me the 
  time I need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID card not 
  the drives. 
  George 
  -Original Message- From: Neil 
  Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Backup Server 
  That's what RAID is for. :-) 
  Neil 
  -Original Message- From: Mark 
  Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Joe L. Casale
Title: Message









Jesus, how fast is that?

jlc



-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:27
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server





I have qwest VDSL to the
house. I'm in a new neighborhood that has fiber to the curb,
althoughthey said my neighborhood will be the last like this.Now
they're going to go fiber to the neighborhood then copper to the house. 





-Original
Message-
From: Abercrombie, Sherry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:57
AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Server

Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest for
our T1. 

Sherry Abercrombie 
Data Center Administration Team

Information Technology

With sufficient thrust, pigs
fly just fine. 



-Original Message- 
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:42
PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear Wrangler
RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It really sucks
changing tires in this heat. 

-Original Message- 
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:14 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




Hey, While your at it, Can you send me
some new 

Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of
Course. :-) 

-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:10
AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to
look into why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up 

-Original Message- 
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:56
AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




PA, Near Pittsburgh, 

-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53
AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




Where are you? 

-Original Message- 
From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:50
AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




Not out here it doesn't. 

-Original Message- 
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30
AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




Works here... :P 

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:31
AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/


You would still need to purchase another Exchange
Server license. 

-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:29 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




No your right. But I a intranet server that is exactly
the same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 



-Original Message- 
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:23
AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




Well, a standby server isn't going to be any cheaper.


-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:18 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I
tried to tell them this. They want a cheaper way. 

-Original Message- 
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:13
AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




That's actually quite a tricky one. 

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared
storage. Why not upgrade to E2k enterprise and implement multiple
databases? At least your downtime would be minimised if you split your
users well. Running the database utilities wouldn't take that much time
with multiple, smaller, databases.

Neil 

-Original Message- 
From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 July 2002 14:29

Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List

Conversation: Backup Server

Subject: RE: Backup Server




What if it is with the database? I want to be able to
fire up the spare  allow the users to receive mail. This way it will give
me the time I need to repair the store  not have vp's hounding me. 

-Original Message- 
From: Morse, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:25 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




Every time we had failures it's been with the RAID
card not the drives. 

George 

-Original Message- 
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup Server




That's what RAID is for. :-) 

Neil 

-Original Message- 
From

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: Message



Could 
be better I suppose - http://www.qwest.com/pcat/vdsl/product/1,1354,809_7_16,00.html. 
But I've been on dialup for 5 years, so this is 
great.

  
  -Original Message-From: Joe L. Casale 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:36 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  
  Jesus, how fast is 
  that?
  jlc
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:27 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  
  
  I have 
  qwest VDSL to the house. I'm in a new neighborhood that has fiber to the 
  curb, althoughthey said my neighborhood will be the last like 
  this.Now they're going to go fiber to the neighborhood then copper to 
  the house. 
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:57 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server
Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest 
for our T1. 
Sherry Abercrombie Data Center Administration 
Team Information Technology "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just 
fine." 

-Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 12:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear 
Wrangler RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It really 
sucks changing tires in this heat. 
-Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

Hey, While your at it, Can you send me 
some new 
Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of 
Course. :-) 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
11:10 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to 
look into why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up 

-Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:56 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

PA, Near Pittsburgh, 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:53 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Where are you? 
-Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:50 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Not out here it doesn't. 
-Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:30 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Works here... :P 
-Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/ 
You would still need to purchase another Exchange 
Server license. 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

No your right. But I a intranet server that is 
exactly the same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:23 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Well, a standby server isn't going to be any 
cheaper. 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 7:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I 
tried to tell them this. They want a cheaper way. 
-Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:13 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

That's actually quite a tricky one. 

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared 
storage. Why not upgrade to E2k enterprise and implement multiple 
databases? At least your downtime would be minimised if you split your 
users well. Running the database utilities wouldn't take that much 
time with multiple, smaller, databases.
Neil 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 
July 2002 14:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exc

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Title: Message



We use 
qwest for ours also. Anyone thinking that if Qwest goes under what happens to 
the t-1's? I live in Colorado Qwest is in the news alot since they are based 
here.

  -Original Message-From: Joe L. Casale 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:36 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  
  Jesus, how fast is 
  that?
  jlc
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:27 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  
  
  I have 
  qwest VDSL to the house. I'm in a new neighborhood that has fiber to the 
  curb, althoughthey said my neighborhood will be the last like 
  this.Now they're going to go fiber to the neighborhood then copper to 
  the house. 
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:57 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server
Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest 
for our T1. 
Sherry Abercrombie Data Center Administration 
Team Information Technology "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just 
fine." 

-Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 12:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear 
Wrangler RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It really 
sucks changing tires in this heat. 
-Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

Hey, While your at it, Can you send me 
some new 
Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of 
Course. :-) 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
11:10 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to 
look into why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up 

-Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:56 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

PA, Near Pittsburgh, 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:53 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Where are you? 
-Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:50 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Not out here it doesn't. 
-Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:30 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Works here... :P 
-Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/ 
You would still need to purchase another Exchange 
Server license. 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

No your right. But I a intranet server that is 
exactly the same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:23 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Well, a standby server isn't going to be any 
cheaper. 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 7:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I 
tried to tell them this. They want a cheaper way. 
-Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:13 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

That's actually quite a tricky one. 

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared 
storage. Why not upgrade to E2k enterprise and implement multiple 
databases? At least your downtime would be minimised if you split your 
users well. Running the database utilities wouldn't take that much 
time with multiple, smaller, databases.
Neil 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 
July 2002 14:29 Posted T

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Not 
any faster...

  
  -Original Message-From: Joe L. Casale 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:36 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  
  Jesus, how fast is 
  that?
  jlc
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:27 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  
  
  I have 
  qwest VDSL to the house. I'm in a new neighborhood that has fiber to the 
  curb, althoughthey said my neighborhood will be the last like 
  this.Now they're going to go fiber to the neighborhood then copper to 
  the house. 
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:57 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server
Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest 
for our T1. 
Sherry Abercrombie Data Center Administration 
Team Information Technology "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just 
fine." 

-Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 12:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear 
Wrangler RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It really 
sucks changing tires in this heat. 
-Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

Hey, While your at it, Can you send me 
some new 
Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of 
Course. :-) 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
11:10 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Really. We have several store in PA. I will have to 
look into why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads up 

-Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:56 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

PA, Near Pittsburgh, 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:53 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Where are you? 
-Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:50 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Not out here it doesn't. 
-Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:30 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Works here... :P 
-Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/ 
You would still need to purchase another Exchange 
Server license. 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

No your right. But I a intranet server that is 
exactly the same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 


-Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:23 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

Well, a standby server isn't going to be any 
cheaper. 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 
July 15, 2002 7:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup 
Server 

The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I 
tried to tell them this. They want a cheaper way. 
-Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
10:13 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 

That's actually quite a tricky one. 

Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared 
storage. Why not upgrade to E2k enterprise and implement multiple 
databases? At least your downtime would be minimised if you split your 
users well. Running the database utilities wouldn't take that much 
time with multiple, smaller, databases.
Neil 
-Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 15 
July 2002 14:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List 
Conversation: Backup 
Server Subject: 
RE: Backup Server 

What if it is with the database? I want 

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Martin Blackstone
Title: Message



He was asking 
Jesus, not you Don. Please wait your turn.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  Not 
  any faster...
  

-Original Message-From: Joe L. Casale 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
4:36 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server

Jesus, how fast is 
that?
jlc

-Original 
Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:27 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server


I have 
qwest VDSL to the house. I'm in a new neighborhood that has fiber to 
the curb, althoughthey said my neighborhood will be the last like 
this.Now they're going to go fiber to the neighborhood then copper to 
the house. 
-Original 
  Message-From: 
  Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:57 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Backup Server
  Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest 
  for our T1. 
  Sherry Abercrombie Data Center Administration 
  Team Information Technology "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly 
  just fine." 
  
  -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 12:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear 
  Wrangler RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It 
  really sucks changing tires in this heat. 
  -Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  Hey, While your at it, Can you send me 
  some new 
  Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of 
  Course. :-) 
  -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  11:10 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Really. We have several store in PA. I will have 
  to look into why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads 
  up 
  -Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:56 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  PA, Near Pittsburgh, 
  -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:53 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Where are you? 
  -Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:50 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Not out here it doesn't. 
  -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:30 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Works here... :P 
  -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/ 
  You would still need to purchase another Exchange 
  Server license. 
  -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  No your right. But I a intranet server that is 
  exactly the same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 
  
  
  -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:23 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Well, a standby server isn't going to be any 
  cheaper. 
  -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 7:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I 
  tried to tell them this. They want a cheaper way. 
  -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:13 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  That's actually quite a tricky one. 
  
  Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared 
  storage. Why not upgrade to E2k 

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Title: Message



won't 
the last mile of copper determine the speed. sounds like marketing 
bs

  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:39 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  Not 
  any faster...
  

-Original Message-From: Joe L. Casale 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
4:36 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server

Jesus, how fast is 
that?
jlc

-Original 
Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:27 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server


I have 
qwest VDSL to the house. I'm in a new neighborhood that has fiber to 
the curb, althoughthey said my neighborhood will be the last like 
this.Now they're going to go fiber to the neighborhood then copper to 
the house. 
-Original 
  Message-From: 
  Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:57 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Backup Server
  Hey, I just noticed your domain Ray, we use Qwest 
  for our T1. 
  Sherry Abercrombie Data Center Administration 
  Team Information Technology "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly 
  just fine." 
  
  -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 12:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  Speaking of which, I could use a new Goodyear 
  Wrangler RT/S. Just left one shredded on the freeway. It 
  really sucks changing tires in this heat. 
  -Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  Hey, While your at it, Can you send me 
  some new 
  Bf Goodrich's 265/75/r15(Free of charge) of 
  Course. :-) 
  -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  11:10 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Really. We have several store in PA. I will have 
  to look into why you can't view our site. Thanks for the heads 
  up 
  -Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:56 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  PA, Near Pittsburgh, 
  -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:53 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Where are you? 
  -Original Message- From: Jeremiah Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:50 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Not out here it doesn't. 
  -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:30 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Works here... :P 
  -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  Is that the broken one? http://www.merchantstire.com/ 
  You would still need to purchase another Exchange 
  Server license. 
  -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  No your right. But I a intranet server that is 
  exactly the same hardware. I would use that,if it came down to it. 
  
  
  -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:23 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  Well, a standby server isn't going to be any 
  cheaper. 
  -Original Message- From: Brien Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, 
  July 15, 2002 7:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Backup 
  Server 
  
  The company doesn't want to pay for enterprise. I 
  tried to tell them this. They want a cheaper way. 
  -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  10:13 AM To: 
  MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Server 
  
  That's actually quite a tricky one. 
  
  Clustering wouldn't help, since it's shared 
  storage. Why n

RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



I've 
actually heard from DSL providers that if you have fiber to copper, you are 
limited to 128 up and down. And that would really 
suck!

  
  -Original Message-From: Eldridge, Dave 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:43 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  won't the last mile of copper determine the speed. sounds like 
  marketing bs
  
-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:39 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server
Not any faster...

  
  -Original Message-From: Joe L. 
  Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 
  15, 2002 4:36 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: Backup Server
  
  Jesus, how fast 
  is that?
  jlc
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Ray 
  Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:27 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Backup Server
  
  
  I 
  have qwest VDSL to the house. I'm in a new neighborhood that has 
  fiber to the curb, althoughthey said my neighborhood will be the 
  last like this.Now they're going to go fiber to the neighborhood 
  then copper to the house. 
  
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RE: Backup Server

2002-07-15 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: Message




Q. How fast is the service?
A. Depending on which service package you choose, you can surf the 
Internet at speeds ranging from 640 Kbps to 1 Mbps (1024 Kbps).

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:53 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
  Server
  I've 
  actually heard from DSL providers that if you have fiber to copper, you are 
  limited to 128 up and down. And that would really 
  suck!
  

-Original Message-From: Eldridge, Dave 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:43 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Backup 
Server
won't the last mile of copper determine the speed. sounds like 
marketing bs

  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 
  2:39 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Backup Server
  Not any faster...
  

-Original Message-From: Joe L. 
Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 
15, 2002 4:36 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Backup Server

Jesus, how fast 
is that?
jlc

-Original 
Message-From: Ray 
Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:27 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: Backup Server


I have qwest 
VDSL to the house. I'm in a new neighborhood that has fiber to the 
curb, althoughthey said my neighborhood will be the last like 
this.Now they're going to go fiber to the neighborhood then copper 
to the house. 
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RE: backup Server

2002-06-06 Thread Bill Beckett

Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and has NT on it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?


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RE: backup Server

2002-06-06 Thread Salvador Manzo

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in the budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI charges US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF IT WILL BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and isolation of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and has NT on it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: backup Server

2002-06-06 Thread Bill Beckett

So adding the server into the same site would only server the purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: backup Server

2002-06-06 Thread Salvador Manzo

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new ORG/SITE, you could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server, but nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication in the same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data from one server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break Single Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server the purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: backup Server

2002-06-06 Thread Bill Beckett

What if you had 2 servers, say exchange1 and exchange2, Exchange1 being the
existing one. You added exchange2 into the same site, duplicated all the
mailboxes (different address), you couldn't replicate emails from Joeuser on
exchange1 to Joeuser on exchange2?


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new ORG/SITE, you
could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server, but
nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication in the
same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data from one
server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break Single
Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server the
purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in
the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI
charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF
IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and
isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and
has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join
the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to the
backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: backup Server

2002-06-06 Thread Ely, Don

You could do it, but I can guarantee you it would suck really, REALLY bad.
You'd introduce a number of problems I won't even beging to explain as it
would take way too much time to type up.

Let's just say, that this would NOT be a solid technical solution.


Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


What if you had 2 servers, say exchange1 and exchange2, Exchange1 being the
existing one. You added exchange2 into the same site, duplicated all the
mailboxes (different address), you couldn't replicate emails from Joeuser on
exchange1 to Joeuser on exchange2?


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new ORG/SITE, you
could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server, but
nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication in the
same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data from one
server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break Single
Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server the
purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit more in
the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes and NSI
charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new server, IF
IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load balancing and
isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already built and
has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join
the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to the
backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: backup Server

2002-06-06 Thread Bill Beckett

Thanks for the feedback, just curious.

What would be the best solution for a backup, clustering? Or perhaps just
having a duplicate server ready to go?

-Original Message-
From:   Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

You could do it, but I can guarantee you it would suck really,
REALLY bad.
You'd introduce a number of problems I won't even beging to explain
as it
would take way too much time to type up.

Let's just say, that this would NOT be a solid technical solution.


Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


What if you had 2 servers, say exchange1 and exchange2, Exchange1
being the
existing one. You added exchange2 into the same site, duplicated all
the
mailboxes (different address), you couldn't replicate emails from
Joeuser on
exchange1 to Joeuser on exchange2?


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new
ORG/SITE, you
could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server,
but
nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication
in the
same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data
from one
server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break
Single
Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server
the
purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two
servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a
thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit
more in
the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes
and NSI
charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new
server, IF
IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load
balancing and
isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already
built and
has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server
join
the site
and then
replicate emails from the original server to
the
backup
server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?

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RE: backup Server

2002-06-06 Thread Ely, Don

You will find all of the info you seek in the FAQ's and DR Whitepapers

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Thanks for the feedback, just curious.

What would be the best solution for a backup, clustering? Or perhaps just
having a duplicate server ready to go?

-Original Message-
From:   Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

You could do it, but I can guarantee you it would suck really,
REALLY bad.
You'd introduce a number of problems I won't even beging to explain
as it
would take way too much time to type up.

Let's just say, that this would NOT be a solid technical solution.


Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


What if you had 2 servers, say exchange1 and exchange2, Exchange1
being the
existing one. You added exchange2 into the same site, duplicated all
the
mailboxes (different address), you couldn't replicate emails from
Joeuser on
exchange1 to Joeuser on exchange2?


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

That is correct.  If you were to install it as a new
ORG/SITE, you
could
script EXMERGE to do copy and replace into the new server,
but
nothing that
I am aware of from MS will allow live, real-time replication
in the
same
manner as SQL Server.  Also, keep in mind that EXMERGE data
from one
server
to another will NOT allow automatic failover, and WILL break
Single
Instance
Storage.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server

So adding the server into the same site would only server
the
purpose of
load balancing, ie. Splitting mailboxes between the two
servers.


-Original Message-
From:   Salvador Manzo
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

Live replication of Exchange data will require a
thrid party
solution, such
as NSI Doubletake.  I _really_ hope you've got a bit
more in
the
budget, as
we recently priced out for informational purposes
and NSI
charges
US$2500
per server.  Otherwise, the only use of the new
server, IF
IT WILL
BE
JOINING THE SAME ORG/SITE, would be for load
balancing and
isolation
of
mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 05:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup Server


Equipment already purchasedserver is already
built and
has NT on
it.


-Original Message-
From:   William Lefkovics
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: backup Server

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server

RE: backup Server

2002-06-05 Thread Salvador Manzo

How do you plan on replicating the e-mails?  There can be only one home
server per mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup server at certain
intervals. Issues with this?


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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: backup Server

2002-06-05 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Title: RE: backup Server





Define replicate emails


-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server



Basically my plan was to have another server join the site and then replicate emails from the original server to the backup server at certain intervals. Issues with this?


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RE: Backup server

2002-06-05 Thread Precht, David

You need a Exchange-aware backup app.

Like NT Backup.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 14:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Backup server


So, can someone explain to me, after they stop snickering, what the
difficulties are in having a backup exchange server? I'm new to
this...running 5.5

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RE: backup Server

2002-06-05 Thread William Lefkovics

It isn't SQL.

It can't be done.

What's the budget again?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: backup Server


Basically my plan was to have another server join the site and then
replicate emails from the original server to the backup server at
certain intervals. Issues with this?


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



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RE: Backup server

2002-05-23 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)

Bill,

Explain more of what you want to achieve. Do you actually require a live
server that will swap should the primary server go down? 

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 May 2002 14:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Backup server


Far from being an exchange guru, I thought I'd query the list.

I have an existing exchange 5.5 server, pretty basic. It resides in a single
domain. Since our email being up is critical, I'm thinking about installing
a second backup server. However, I really don't know the best way to do
this. Can someone offer their advice?


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List Charter and FAQ at:
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