Re: [OT] Thursday Funny
Funny, but wrong. So, so wrong. 2009/1/22 Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2GmBkkaTU ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: [OT] Thursday Funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzwfeature=related This is good too... On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Funny, but wrong. So, so wrong. 2009/1/22 Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2GmBkkaTU ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
re: [OT] Thursday Funny
Really, almost as good as the original. Not so funny Thursday tidbit: Microsoft to cut up to 5,000 jobs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28791669/ From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: [OT] Thursday Funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2GmBkkaTU ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: [OT] Thursday Funny
I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: The company says profit slipped to $4.17 billion, or 47 cents per share, from year-ago earnings of $4.71 billion, or 50 cents per share. It says total revenue edged up 2 percent to $16.63 billion, as software for corporate computer servers helped offset an 8 percent drop in revenue for PC software. The results missed Wall Street's forecast for earnings of 49 cents per share on sales of $17.08 billion. They are complaining about a profit of 4 BILLION DOLLARS. OMG. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: [OT] Thursday Funny Really, almost as good as the original. Not so funny Thursday tidbit: Microsoft to cut up to 5,000 jobs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28791669/ _ From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: [OT] Thursday Funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2GmBkkaTU ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: [OT] Thursday Funny
No, they are not bitching about 4billion. They are bitching that they didn't get the extra 500 million they were expecting. Cutting 5000 jobs will save them 5000*(70,000*2) or $700,000,000 a year. Of course I am wildly guessing the $70k/year is the average salary accross all 5000 employees, and *2 for overhead and additional expenses the company must pay to have the employees working, ie. bennies, free food/soda/ice cream/beer in the office, electricity, pc's, other building expenses, on campus transportion, free meals in one of the restaraunts on campus, the list goes on and on. Mike, I've been to the MVP summit twice and it's quite impressive what they give away. They could prolly cut their freebies in half and save a billion. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Thursday Funny I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: The company says profit slipped to $4.17 billion, or 47 cents per share, from year-ago earnings of $4.71 billion, or 50 cents per share. It says total revenue edged up 2 percent to $16.63 billion, as software for corporate computer servers helped offset an 8 percent drop in revenue for PC software. The results missed Wall Street's forecast for earnings of 49 cents per share on sales of $17.08 billion. They are complaining about a profit of 4 BILLION DOLLARS. OMG. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: [OT] Thursday Funny Really, almost as good as the original. Not so funny Thursday tidbit: Microsoft to cut up to 5,000 jobs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28791669/ From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: [OT] Thursday Funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2GmBkkaTU ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: [OT] Thursday Funny
What a justification for clearing out marginal employees. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Thursday Funny I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: The company says profit slipped to $4.17 billion, or 47 cents per share, from year-ago earnings of $4.71 billion, or 50 cents per share. It says total revenue edged up 2 percent to $16.63 billion, as software for corporate computer servers helped offset an 8 percent drop in revenue for PC software. The results missed Wall Street's forecast for earnings of 49 cents per share on sales of $17.08 billion. They are complaining about a profit of 4 BILLION DOLLARS. OMG. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: [OT] Thursday Funny Really, almost as good as the original. Not so funny Thursday tidbit: Microsoft to cut up to 5,000 jobs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28791669/ From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: [OT] Thursday Funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2GmBkkaTU ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: [OT] Thursday Funny
I think the sentiment is that the worst is yet to come and the increased trend toward the cloud (argh... i used a buzzword! I'm doomed!) means fewer physical 'seats' for their products. They answer to their shareholders, not their employees or their customers (though obviously ignoring the latter two will impact the former). Hey... I'm a shareholder. Ballmer's letter: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10147964-75.html?part=rsssubj=newstag=2547-1_3-0-5 From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: [OT] Thursday Funny I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: The company says profit slipped to $4.17 billion, or 47 cents per share, from year-ago earnings of $4.71 billion, or 50 cents per share. It says total revenue edged up 2 percent to $16.63 billion, as software for corporate computer servers helped offset an 8 percent drop in revenue for PC software. The results missed Wall Street's forecast for earnings of 49 cents per share on sales of $17.08 billion. They are complaining about a profit of 4 BILLION DOLLARS. OMG. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: [OT] Thursday Funny Really, almost as good as the original. Not so funny Thursday tidbit: Microsoft to cut up to 5,000 jobs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28791669/ From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: [OT] Thursday Funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2GmBkkaTU ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: [OT] Thursday Funny
For most companies (read, those that aren't rich enough to do it in house) the cloud is just another form of outsourcing, and a particularly bad one. Folks will come to realize that pretty quickly once the data breaches start happening in the cloud, just like they do inside of the company. I think MSFT's worries are not about the cloud - or at least, they shouldn't be. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM, will...@lefkovics.net will...@lefkovics.net wrote: I think the sentiment is that the worst is yet to come and the increased trend toward the cloud (argh... i used a buzzword! I'm doomed!) means fewer physical 'seats' for their products. They answer to their shareholders, not their employees or their customers (though obviously ignoring the latter two will impact the former). Hey... I'm a shareholder. Ballmer's letter: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10147964-75.html?part=rsssubj=newstag=2547-1_3-0-5 From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: [OT] Thursday Funny I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: The company says profit slipped to $4.17 billion, or 47 cents per share, from year-ago earnings of $4.71 billion, or 50 cents per share. It says total revenue edged up 2 percent to $16.63 billion, as software for corporate computer servers helped offset an 8 percent drop in revenue for PC software. The results missed Wall Street's forecast for earnings of 49 cents per share on sales of $17.08 billion. They are complaining about a profit of 4 BILLION DOLLARS. OMG. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: [OT] Thursday Funny Really, almost as good as the original. Not so funny Thursday tidbit: Microsoft to cut up to 5,000 jobs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28791669/ From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: [OT] Thursday Funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2GmBkkaTU ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: [OT] Thursday Funny
The cloud, Software-as-a-Service, Hosted Solutions, whatever you want to call it, is part of the evolution of networking. They are not _worried_ about it; they are embracing it (groove.com, mesh.com, office.live.com). However, it means fewer installed instances of Windows Server, Office, Exchange, etc over time. Some companies that ARE rich enough to do it in house are still considering and some moving to hosted solutions because it saves them money. That is both reasonable and expected. Data breaches are not unexpected. I don't think anyone believes that it isn't possible. Or outages. Or data loss. Even Google and their perpetual beta lost a bunch of peoples' e-mail. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Thursday Funny For most companies (read, those that aren't rich enough to do it in house) the cloud is just another form of outsourcing, and a particularly bad one. Folks will come to realize that pretty quickly once the data breaches start happening in the cloud, just like they do inside of the company. I think MSFT's worries are not about the cloud - or at least, they shouldn't be. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM, will...@lefkovics.net will...@lefkovics.net wrote: I think the sentiment is that the worst is yet to come and the increased trend toward the cloud (argh... i used a buzzword! I'm doomed!) means fewer physical 'seats' for their products. They answer to their shareholders, not their employees or their customers (though obviously ignoring the latter two will impact the former). Hey... I'm a shareholder. Ballmer's letter: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10147964-75.html?part=rsssubj=news; tag=2547-1_3-0-5 From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: [OT] Thursday Funny I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: [OT] Thursday Funny
It may be part of the evolution of networking, but I think it's a dead end. If you don't have the bits under your direct physical control, you don't own them or control them at all. Data breaches may not be unexpected, but they can and will hurt a lot more in the future than they do now, as they have more serious consequences, I sincerely believe. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, William Lefkovics will...@lefkovics.net wrote: The cloud, Software-as-a-Service, Hosted Solutions, whatever you want to call it, is part of the evolution of networking. They are not _worried_ about it; they are embracing it (groove.com, mesh.com, office.live.com). However, it means fewer installed instances of Windows Server, Office, Exchange, etc over time. Some companies that ARE rich enough to do it in house are still considering and some moving to hosted solutions because it saves them money. That is both reasonable and expected. Data breaches are not unexpected. I don't think anyone believes that it isn't possible. Or outages. Or data loss. Even Google and their perpetual beta lost a bunch of peoples' e-mail. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Thursday Funny For most companies (read, those that aren't rich enough to do it in house) the cloud is just another form of outsourcing, and a particularly bad one. Folks will come to realize that pretty quickly once the data breaches start happening in the cloud, just like they do inside of the company. I think MSFT's worries are not about the cloud - or at least, they shouldn't be. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM, will...@lefkovics.net will...@lefkovics.net wrote: I think the sentiment is that the worst is yet to come and the increased trend toward the cloud (argh... i used a buzzword! I'm doomed!) means fewer physical 'seats' for their products. They answer to their shareholders, not their employees or their customers (though obviously ignoring the latter two will impact the former). Hey... I'm a shareholder. Ballmer's letter: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10147964-75.html?part=rsssubj=news; tag=2547-1_3-0-5 From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: [OT] Thursday Funny I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: [OT] Thursday Funny
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:00 PM, William Lefkovics will...@lefkovics.net wrote: The cloud, Software-as-a-Service, Hosted Solutions, whatever you want to call it, is part of the evolution of networking. They are not _worried_ about it; they are embracing it ... I'm sorta with Kurt on this one. While I'm sure a great many companies can move to such services at reasonable risk, I also think there's going to be an eventual counter-migration for some of those companies. Same thing that's happened for some companies with outsourcing for other reasons; it's a short-term gain but a long-term loss. However, this counter-migration will not occur at any significant level until some massive breaches occur and cause some high-profile companies to loose significant money, or even go out of business. The public breaches we've seen so far are child's play in comparison to what's coming. Some will no doubt consider this needless fear. Only time will tell who is right. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: [OT] Thursday Funny
I appreciate your point. It is certainly not for everyone and it is not even an option for some. But in some cases, a hosting company can provide more control and not less. And it is not an 'all-or-nothing' thing. Some aspects of the business can be moved to a service model. My point was not whether it is a good or bad move, but rather that the cloud, SaaS, hosted services, etc, will have an impact on overall future sales for software vendors including Microsoft. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Thursday Funny It may be part of the evolution of networking, but I think it's a dead end. If you don't have the bits under your direct physical control, you don't own them or control them at all. Data breaches may not be unexpected, but they can and will hurt a lot more in the future than they do now, as they have more serious consequences, I sincerely believe. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, William Lefkovics will...@lefkovics.net wrote: The cloud, Software-as-a-Service, Hosted Solutions, whatever you want to call it, is part of the evolution of networking. They are not _worried_ about it; they are embracing it (groove.com, mesh.com, office.live.com). However, it means fewer installed instances of Windows Server, Office, Exchange, etc over time. Some companies that ARE rich enough to do it in house are still considering and some moving to hosted solutions because it saves them money. That is both reasonable and expected. Data breaches are not unexpected. I don't think anyone believes that it isn't possible. Or outages. Or data loss. Even Google and their perpetual beta lost a bunch of peoples' e-mail. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Thursday Funny For most companies (read, those that aren't rich enough to do it in house) the cloud is just another form of outsourcing, and a particularly bad one. Folks will come to realize that pretty quickly once the data breaches start happening in the cloud, just like they do inside of the company. I think MSFT's worries are not about the cloud - or at least, they shouldn't be. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM, will...@lefkovics.net will...@lefkovics.net wrote: I think the sentiment is that the worst is yet to come and the increased trend toward the cloud (argh... i used a buzzword! I'm doomed!) means fewer physical 'seats' for their products. They answer to their shareholders, not their employees or their customers (though obviously ignoring the latter two will impact the former). Hey... I'm a shareholder. Ballmer's letter: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10147964-75.html?part=rsssubj=news tag=2547-1_3-0-5 From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: [OT] Thursday Funny I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: [OT] Thursday Funny
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:54 PM, William Lefkovics will...@lefkovics.net wrote: My point was not whether it is a good or bad move, but rather that the cloud, SaaS, hosted services, etc, will have an impact on overall future sales for software vendors including Microsoft. Of course, in the past, Microsoft has changed their licensing terms to adapt to changing times. Sometimes to customer advantage, sometimes to their own. I wouldn't be surprised to see cloud CALs or something show up if it really starts to hurt them... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: [OT] Thursday Funny
You might be right. There's an old stock market saying - the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. Heh. However, I think, as Ben points out, that an adjustment in client license prices or even a new type of licensing agreement might be in order. Of course, lawmakers will never do the rational thing, and allow MSFT to offer SAAS/Cloud directly. That would be unfair competition. As much as, at times, and more frequently, I'm not a fan of MSFT, I'm even less a fan of lawmakers. Sigh. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, William Lefkovics will...@lefkovics.net wrote: I appreciate your point. It is certainly not for everyone and it is not even an option for some. But in some cases, a hosting company can provide more control and not less. And it is not an 'all-or-nothing' thing. Some aspects of the business can be moved to a service model. My point was not whether it is a good or bad move, but rather that the cloud, SaaS, hosted services, etc, will have an impact on overall future sales for software vendors including Microsoft. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Thursday Funny It may be part of the evolution of networking, but I think it's a dead end. If you don't have the bits under your direct physical control, you don't own them or control them at all. Data breaches may not be unexpected, but they can and will hurt a lot more in the future than they do now, as they have more serious consequences, I sincerely believe. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, William Lefkovics will...@lefkovics.net wrote: The cloud, Software-as-a-Service, Hosted Solutions, whatever you want to call it, is part of the evolution of networking. They are not _worried_ about it; they are embracing it (groove.com, mesh.com, office.live.com). However, it means fewer installed instances of Windows Server, Office, Exchange, etc over time. Some companies that ARE rich enough to do it in house are still considering and some moving to hosted solutions because it saves them money. That is both reasonable and expected. Data breaches are not unexpected. I don't think anyone believes that it isn't possible. Or outages. Or data loss. Even Google and their perpetual beta lost a bunch of peoples' e-mail. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Thursday Funny For most companies (read, those that aren't rich enough to do it in house) the cloud is just another form of outsourcing, and a particularly bad one. Folks will come to realize that pretty quickly once the data breaches start happening in the cloud, just like they do inside of the company. I think MSFT's worries are not about the cloud - or at least, they shouldn't be. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM, will...@lefkovics.net will...@lefkovics.net wrote: I think the sentiment is that the worst is yet to come and the increased trend toward the cloud (argh... i used a buzzword! I'm doomed!) means fewer physical 'seats' for their products. They answer to their shareholders, not their employees or their customers (though obviously ignoring the latter two will impact the former). Hey... I'm a shareholder. Ballmer's letter: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10147964-75.html?part=rsssubj=news tag=2547-1_3-0-5 From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: [OT] Thursday Funny I don't quite get their gloom and doom though. From that article: ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
Just some troll looking to bait the list.
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From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
Whoa! Was that uncalled for or did I miss something?
From: Durf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
You know, a little while in Walter Reed might help fix that problem.
Oh, wait - VA care was gutted by your beloved president, and Walter Reed
is a horrorshow.
Well, Semper Fi, dude. Good luck with the puppy-throwing skillz
instead, hope it helps you cope.
-- Durf
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
A Spanish teacher was explaining to her class that in Spanish, unlike
English, nouns are designated as either masculine or feminine.
'House', for instance, is feminine: 'la casa.'
'Pencil,' however, is masculine: 'el lapiz.'
A student asked, 'What gender is 'computer'?'
Instead of giving the answer, the teacher split the class into two
groups, male and female, and asked them to decide for themselves whether
'computer' should be a masculine or a feminine noun.
Each group was asked to give four reasons for its recommendation.
The men's group decided that 'computer' should definitely be of the
feminine gender ('la computadora'), because:
1. No one but their creator understands their internal logic;
2. The native language they use to communicate with other computers is
incomprehensible to everyone else;
3. Even the smallest mistakes are stored in long term memory for
possible later retrieval; and
4. As soon as you make a commitment to one, you find yourself spending
half your paycheck on accessories for it.
(THIS GETS BETTER!)
The women's group, however, concluded that computers should be Masculine
('el computador'), because:
1. In order to do anything with them, you have to turn them on;
2. They have a lot of data but still can't think for themselves;
3. They are supposed to help you solve problems, but half the time they
ARE the problem; and
4. As soon as you commit to one, you realize that if you had waited a
little longer, you could have gotten a better model.
The women won.
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RE: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
Whoa! Was that uncalled for or did I miss something?
From: Durf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
You know, a little while in Walter Reed might help fix that problem.
Oh, wait - VA care was gutted by your beloved president, and Walter Reed
is a horrorshow.
Well, Semper Fi, dude. Good luck with the puppy-throwing skillz
instead, hope it helps you cope.
-- Durf
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
A Spanish teacher was explaining to her class that in Spanish, unlike
English,
nouns are designated as either masculine or feminine.
'House', for instance, is feminine: 'la casa.'
'Pencil,' however, is masculine: 'el lapiz.'
A student asked, 'What gender is 'computer'?'
Instead of giving the answer, the teacher split the class into two
groups, male and female,
and asked them to decide for themselves whether 'computer' should be a
masculine or a feminine noun.
Each group was asked to give four reasons for its recommendation.
The men's group decided that 'computer' should definitely be of the
feminine gender ('la computadora'), because:
1. No one but their creator understands their internal logic;
2. The native language they use to communicate with other computers is
incomprehensible to everyone else;
3. Even the smallest mistakes are stored in long term memory for
possible later retrieval; and
4. As soon as you make a commitment to one, you find yourself spending
half your paycheck on accessories for it.
(THIS GETS BETTER!)
The women's group, however, concluded that computers should be Masculine
('el computador'), because:
1. In order to do anything with them, you have to turn them on;
2. They have a lot of data but still can't think for themselves;
3. They are supposed to help you solve problems, but half the time they
ARE the problem; and
4. As soon as you commit to one, you realize that if you had waited a
little longer, you could have gotten a better model.
The women won.
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Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
You know, a little while in Walter Reed might help fix that problem.
Oh, wait - VA care was gutted by your beloved president, and Walter Reed is
a horrorshow.
Well, Semper Fi, dude. Good luck with the puppy-throwing skillz instead,
hope it helps you cope.
-- Durf
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A Spanish teacher was explaining to her class that in Spanish, unlike
English,
nouns are designated as either masculine or feminine.
'House', for instance, is feminine: 'la casa.'
'Pencil,' however, is masculine: 'el lapiz.'
A student asked, 'What gender is 'computer'?'
Instead of giving the answer, the teacher split the class into two
groups, male and female,
and asked them to decide for themselves whether 'computer' should be a
masculine or a feminine noun.
Each group was asked to give four reasons for its recommendation.
The men's group decided that 'computer' should definitely be of the
feminine gender ('la computadora'), because:
1. No one but their creator understands their internal logic;
2. The native language they use to communicate with other computers is
incomprehensible to everyone else;
3. Even the smallest mistakes are stored in long term memory for
possible later retrieval; and
4. As soon as you make a commitment to one, you find yourself spending
half your paycheck on accessories for it.
(THIS GETS BETTER!)
The women's group, however, concluded that computers should be Masculine
('el computador'), because:
1. In order to do anything with them, you have to turn them on;
2. They have a lot of data but still can't think for themselves;
3. They are supposed to help you solve problems, but half the time they
ARE the problem; and
4. As soon as you commit to one, you realize that if you had waited a
little longer, you could have gotten a better model.
The women won.
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RE: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
Don't feed the trolls.
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From: Durf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 5:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
You know, a little while in Walter Reed might help fix that problem.
Oh, wait - VA care was gutted by your beloved president, and Walter Reed
is a horrorshow.
Well, Semper Fi, dude. Good luck with the puppy-throwing skillz
instead, hope it helps you cope.
-- Durf
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
A Spanish teacher was explaining to her class that in Spanish,
unlike
English,
nouns are designated as either masculine or feminine.
'House', for instance, is feminine: 'la casa.'
'Pencil,' however, is masculine: 'el lapiz.'
A student asked, 'What gender is 'computer'?'
Instead of giving the answer, the teacher split the class into
two
groups, male and female,
and asked them to decide for themselves whether 'computer'
should be a
masculine or a feminine noun.
Each group was asked to give four reasons for its
recommendation.
The men's group decided that 'computer' should definitely be of
the
feminine gender ('la computadora'), because:
1. No one but their creator understands their internal logic;
2. The native language they use to communicate with other
computers is
incomprehensible to everyone else;
3. Even the smallest mistakes are stored in long term memory for
possible later retrieval; and
4. As soon as you make a commitment to one, you find yourself
spending
half your paycheck on accessories for it.
(THIS GETS BETTER!)
The women's group, however, concluded that computers should be
Masculine
('el computador'), because:
1. In order to do anything with them, you have to turn them on;
2. They have a lot of data but still can't think for themselves;
3. They are supposed to help you solve problems, but half the
time they
ARE the problem; and
4. As soon as you commit to one, you realize that if you had
waited a
little longer, you could have gotten a better model.
The women won.
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Spam ~
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