[expert] Cable modem
Hi folks ! A friend of mine would use linux and he has cable modem connection with static IP. My question is : if I set up the NIC and it comes up at boot time, is the connection established then ? (that's the default nature of this under the M$ product) If the answer is yes I think I should immediatelly set a packet filtering firewall up for him. Thanks, Ago "If you love somebody set them free..." Sting is GPL fan :-)) A hivatalos magyar KDE oldal : www.kde.hu
[expert] joystick
How do I get my joystick to work with mandrake and quake??? dave -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= LINUX - Why? Cause I dont do windows -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?
- Original Message - From: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk? Kirk McElhearn wrote: How do I know if I have this problem...? This problem arises because of the PC's BIOS PROM's inability to boot beyond cylinder 1023. If you use a Boot Manager, and make sure it is located below cylinder 1024, then only this Boot Manager is ever booted by the BIOS. The Boot Manager does the rest of the booting and if you choose a modern one then it has no 1024 cylinder or 8Gb limit in what it can boot. Hooray! And, again, if you use the nuni bootloader there is =no= BIOS limitation. Hoyt _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [expert] Alt-F7 = crash!
Trevor Farrell wrote: In the ongoing tradition of "weird wacky" Ver 7.0-2 problems: If I log into KDE as usual, then Ctrl-Alt-F1 to go to a text console all goes well, until I Alt-F7 to get back to KDE. All I get is a black screen. The only keyboard combo that does anything that I can find is Ctrl-Alt-Del, which does a proper shutdown (although I can't see anything on the monitor) and reboot. Num lock, Caps lock scroll lock lights don't toggle, Alt-F1 (or Ctrl-Alt-F1) or any other F key does nothing, nor does Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. The monitor doesn't come back until the machine restarts. I've looked in all the /var/log files for something that might explain it - but all looks fine to me (but I don't really know what I'm looking for!) Anybody have any solutions/hints/comments/guesses??? Thanks, Trevor OK, you only need to do Alt-F7 to go back to X, but Ctrl-Alt-F7 works too. And, yes, this has always worked on all previous versions of Linux I have ran on ANY box. As for my h/ware, SiS 6326 chip detected installed automatically by Mdk 7.0-2, using the SVGA server. The only thing I changed was setting default colour depth from 24bpp to 16bpp to fix Netscape's little monochrome icon problem. The fault, by the way, is intermittent, sometimes it works and sometimes it locks - seems to be about 50/50, but I don't like to do it to often. One of the local guys here suggested it might be something to do with power management shutting down or putting something to sleep. I did an "everything-but-the-kitchen-sink" install, and I notice Kapm laptop stuff on the Kmenus. Is there something there I should look at? Perhaps uninstall some stuff?
Re: [expert] Please Define Pipe
Pipe or FIFO. First in First Out file. What ever is written into a pipe is read back in the same order. I can exist with as a directory entry, or in some OS's without a directory entry but as a pair of filehandles. The queue size I usually run into is about 2K. It is the 'glue' between many processes in *nix. IMHO it is *nix major strength and M$ doom. The lack of a standard inter process communication in M$ OS's is a real problem. IOW how do you direct Arguments into M$'s find then into a Backup program? I hope I explained this in a way you understand. Regards Christopher Cox
Re: [expert] kppp prevents other X apps from opening
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 05:58:47PM -0600, Sheldon Lee Wen wrote: - - I had the same problem with an isp that assigned me an invalid - hostname on connection. If I opened an xterm before I dialed - and then once connected used the xterm to set my hostname back to - what it was then everything "unfroze." Wierd I know. - - Civileme wrote: - - Stephen F. Bosch wrote: - - Okay, my turn to ask questions: - - I am setting up a machine for someone else who will only have dialup - access to the internet. I have managed to configure the modem without - any trouble; kppp can dial in, connect, and authenticate, and I can even - - surf and ping and all that good stuff. - - Here's the *strange* part: - - Once connected, I can't *open* anything. Nix. Nada. I can't open - anything on the Kpanel, I can't open apps from the Kmenu... the system - is paralyzed. All I can do, it seems, is disconnect kppp. - - No error messages of any kind. - - If I have Netscape open when I connect, I can surf normally. If I don't - have Netscape open, I'm SOL -- because it won't open. - - After I disconnect -- bingo, I can open apps again. Bingo! Not weird at all. X is designed to work across a network. You can run X om machine A, then log into machine B. On A you can tell X to serve as display for B (xhost B). On B you can tell it to use A as its display (export DISPLAY=A:0.0). Then you can run X apps on B and have them display on A. I use that to administer my server, a 486 with 16 MB of physical memory. Something is wrong with your X setup. The server should be listening as localhost, not your host name. Clients should be using localhost for their displays, not the host name. I just checked my system. I have the same problem. ccurley@charlesc $ echo $DISPLAY charlesc:0.0 Of course, your ISP probably should not be assigning you a hostname either. Anyone know enough about X to tell us how to correct this? -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
Thus spake Sheldon Lee Wen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sun has released a preview of 5.2 (~80-100 MB and available for Windoze and Linux). Yes and it chokes on large complex msword docs. I wonder how good CorelOffice2000 is? Last time I used corel wp to import a word doc it choked too, but that was a much older version. I've been happily using Applixware for some 18 months. It's imported Word-7 Excel-7, Lotus 123 and even a 120+ overhead Powerpoint 7 presentation. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. |
Re: [expert] kppp prevents other X apps from opening
Possibly. If you are using a higher security level and you have ALL:ALL:DENY in your /etc/hosts.deny file then you may want to alter it to ALL:ALL except localhost:DENY. Tom Charles Curley wrote: On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 05:58:47PM -0600, Sheldon Lee Wen wrote: - - I had the same problem with an isp that assigned me an invalid - hostname on connection. If I opened an xterm before I dialed - and then once connected used the xterm to set my hostname back to - what it was then everything "unfroze." Wierd I know. - - Civileme wrote: - - Stephen F. Bosch wrote: - - Okay, my turn to ask questions: - - I am setting up a machine for someone else who will only have dialup - access to the internet. I have managed to configure the modem without - any trouble; kppp can dial in, connect, and authenticate, and I can even - - surf and ping and all that good stuff. - - Here's the *strange* part: - - Once connected, I can't *open* anything. Nix. Nada. I can't open - anything on the Kpanel, I can't open apps from the Kmenu... the system - is paralyzed. All I can do, it seems, is disconnect kppp. - - No error messages of any kind. - - If I have Netscape open when I connect, I can surf normally. If I don't - have Netscape open, I'm SOL -- because it won't open. - - After I disconnect -- bingo, I can open apps again. Bingo! Not weird at all. X is designed to work across a network. You can run X om machine A, then log into machine B. On A you can tell X to serve as display for B (xhost B). On B you can tell it to use A as its display (export DISPLAY=A:0.0). Then you can run X apps on B and have them display on A. I use that to administer my server, a 486 with 16 MB of physical memory. Something is wrong with your X setup. The server should be listening as localhost, not your host name. Clients should be using localhost for their displays, not the host name. I just checked my system. I have the same problem. ccurley@charlesc $ echo $DISPLAY charlesc:0.0 Of course, your ISP probably should not be assigning you a hostname either. Anyone know enough about X to tell us how to correct this? -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
Re: [expert] Cirrus Logic 5464
Run Xconfigurator... ;-) Brett A. Rogers wrote: any ideas on how to tell linux that the card has 4mb of memory on it?
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
Is there a download/trial version of Applixware I might try? I don't think I'll ever get wpoffice2000 unless they offer a download/trial version so I'm looking for other options. Thus spake Deryk Barker: Thus spake Sheldon Lee Wen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sun has released a preview of 5.2 (~80-100 MB and available for Windoze and Linux). Yes and it chokes on large complex msword docs. I wonder how good CorelOffice2000 is? Last time I used corel wp to import a word doc it choked too, but that was a much older version. I've been happily using Applixware for some 18 months. It's imported Word-7 Excel-7, Lotus 123 and even a 120+ overhead Powerpoint 7 presentation. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | -- == "Definitions involving chicken heads no longer apply." -Jon katz ==
Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart
Brian T. Schellenberger said: Well, it's not X, really, that's broken, it's the run levels. To verify that this is what we've really done, could you indulge us all and just issue the "runlevel" command (no arguments) and let us all know what it says? Hey, I'm willing to indulge you guys quite a bit for helping me out. g Here is what "runlevel" says when X is running: # 5 And here's what it says with just the console after I exit X completely: #5 So I guess you're right about the run levels being broken. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Using Linux to get where I want to go...
[expert] CDrw and CD
Hi folks ! Again, I have another problem. How could I use the CD-RW and the CD-ROM in the same machine ? Both are IDE driven. So, what's suspicious to me. If I want to burn CDs I have to recompile my kernel without the IDE-CD support and with the SCSI generic and SCSI-emulation support (among others). So, after this could I use my simple CD-ROM like a SCSI device without problems ? Thanks, Ago "If you love somebody set them free..." Sting is GPL fan :-)) A hivatalos magyar KDE oldal : www.kde.hu
Re: [expert] The ongoing tradition of weird wacky Ver 7.0-2 problems continues
Trevor Farrell wrote: The ongoing tradition of "weird wacky" Ver 7.0-2 problems continues: Two new ones for you to dissect and enlighten me on (please)! 1) OK, by now you all know I've got a CDrom and a CRrw (right?) and that the CDrw works OK as a CDrom, but has some problems burning - but thats not the problem here! Now I got my sound card working I thought I'd use it to listen to my fav CD while working. Fine - music to my ears, until I popped a data CD into the CDrw to get a file - as soon as supermount mounted the Cdrw, my music died. The CD player kept on counting seconds, just no sound. Anyway, I fiddled with ejecting the CD and putting it back in, shutting down and restarting the CD player (the standard KDE one) and all I managed to do was lock up the Cd player so I had to use XKill to zap it good. Fine, I thought, lets use the M$ solution to get my sound back - logout - shutdown - reboot... Well, it didn't like that - timeout errors trying to unmount the CDrom (hdc) and the system stopped there - could not shut down! Eventually had to use the master reset switch (the off button!) Seems to do the same with or without supermount. Any ideas??? Just doubled checked my machine. Works fine. Btw, I just did an install on another box. Had a CD on ide1 as primary and a CDRW on the same cable as secondary. After installing Mandrake-Linux and during the check out procedures I see that in KDE two cd-Rom icons, Cd-rom and Cd-Rom2. Clicking on the cd-rom icon brings up the data window and will also play cd-music. Clicking on the Cd-Rom2 gets a blank window or an error message window that the data can't be displayed. A look in /dev shows that the cd-Rom is correctly linked, @cdrom-hdc. There is also a cdrom1, linked , @cdrom1-/dev/hdd. The @cdrom2-hdd is also linked to hdd. Anyway to get the cd-rom2 icon the properly open and read and display the second cd-rom, which is the CDRW we had to edit the link in /dev/@cdrom2-hdd to @cdrom2-scd0. Now that it is correctly linked all is working fine. You have, I'm guessing that both cd's are on the same cable, set the dip switches to the correct master or slave settings?? 2) LICQ doesn't like me using the shift key on a long line - invariably garbles the text I've already typed. Anyone else have that one??? Trevor
Re: [expert] kppp prevents other X apps from opening
Charles Curley wrote: X is designed to work across a network. You can run X om machine A, then log into machine B. On A you can tell X to serve as display for B (xhost B). On B you can tell it to use A as its display (export DISPLAY=A:0.0). Then you can run X apps on B and have them display on A. I use that to administer my server, a 486 with 16 MB of physical memory. Something is wrong with your X setup. The server should be listening as localhost, not your host name. Clients should be using localhost for their displays, not the host name. Hey, yeah... this is interesting! I just checked my system. I have the same problem. ccurley@charlesc $ echo $DISPLAY charlesc:0.0 Of course, your ISP probably should not be assigning you a hostname either. Well, that's a setting in kppp. Disabling it fixed the problem. Anyone know enough about X to tell us how to correct this? Anyone? -Stephen-
[expert] MS Intellimouse OptiEye
Just installed a new OptiEye mouse in place of my Logitech mousemanplus wheel mouse and the wheel does not work in Mandrake 7.0 even after extensive diddling with the mouseconfig. However when I boot to redhat 6.2 install, the new mouse works great even without the imwheel -k command.
Re: [expert] CDrw and CD
"=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Deim_Ágoston?=" wrote: Hi folks ! Again, I have another problem. How could I use the CD-RW and the CD-ROM in the same machine ? Both are IDE driven. So, what's suspicious to me. If I want to burn CDs I have to recompile my kernel without the IDE-CD support and with the SCSI generic and SCSI-emulation support (among others). So, after this could I use my simple CD-ROM like a SCSI device without problems ? Thanks, Ago "If you love somebody set them free..." Sting is GPL fan :-)) A hivatalos magyar KDE oldal : www.kde.hu You DO NOT have to recompile the kernel to use CD-ROM or the CD-RW or both. And yes you can indicate and drive both as ide-scsi. at least you can in Mandrake-Linux ver:7.0. Larry
Re: [expert] CDrw and CD
"=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Deim_Ágoston?=" wrote: Hi folks ! Again, I have another problem. How could I use the CD-RW and the CD-ROM in the same machine ? Both are IDE driven. So, what's suspicious to me. If I want to burn CDs I have to recompile my kernel without the IDE-CD support and with the SCSI generic and SCSI-emulation support (among others). So, after this could I use my simple CD-ROM like a SCSI device without problems ? Thanks, Ago "If you love somebody set them free..." Sting is GPL fan :-)) A hivatalos magyar KDE oldal : www.kde.hu In the LILO append="hdd=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi' In /etc/conf.modules: First line , alais scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi --- other items here- Last line post-install supermount modprobe scsi_hostadapter
[expert] Oversized Ethernet frame
Good evening to all. The network is behind the server (gateway, firewall, router etc). All the masquarading features are compilled in. Eth1 - internal ethernet, eth2 - external one. There eth2: Oversized Ehernet frame wts53something84hdg appears in the active console. Please, tell me what to do?:) All the needed info (about kernel (2.2.14) and system (mandrake 7.0) I can send out later. Thank you in advance.
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 13:24 -0400, Stephen F. Bosch wrote: Thus spake Sheldon Lee Wen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sun has released a preview of 5.2 (~80-100 MB and available for Windoze and Linux). Yes and it chokes on large complex msword docs. *hysterical laughter* So does Microsoft Word... have you ever tried to manage a document that's more than 18 pages in Word? With images and tables of contents? Ahem, I did. 291 pages, more than 80 images, footnotes, toc and index, all with Word97. Wrote it in separate docs and finally put the whole thing together. Took me 2 working days to manually correct pagebreaks, footnotes, image-descriptions, Pagenumbers in toc, etc. Trying to make a point that you *can* do a large doc in Word! Also you could do large documents in stones some 4000 yrs ago! Just a matter of time and manpower. wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] CDrw and CD
Again, I have another problem. How could I use the CD-RW and the CD-ROM in the same machine ? Both are IDE driven. So, what's suspicious to me. If I want to burn CDs I have to recompile my kernel without the IDE-CD support and with the SCSI generic and SCSI-emulation support (among others). So, after this could I use my simple CD-ROM like a SCSI device without problems ? I've got my CD-ROM as hdc and my CD-RW is hdd. So, my lilo includes the line append="hdd=ide-scsi" and my modules.conf file includes the line 'alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi' My system works quite well with /dev/hdc aliased to /dev/cdrom and I burn CDs quite easily via cdrecord and its various front-ends. Also, if I ever do want to mount my CD-RW, I have an entry in my fstab that reads as follows: /dev/sr0/mnt/cdrw iso9660 user,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 1 1 This is needed because the drive won't let me mount it as /dev/hdd while it's being used as an ide-scsi device. That's the long answer, as far as I was able to make my system work. The short answer is: you can have ide-scsi support as a module rather than recompiling, and it will coexist just fine with a normal IDE CD drive. WHEW! YMMV -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] How much superuser percentage to reserve??
What is this reserving for superuser for? In other words what is its purpose? On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, Marcos Dione mewed: On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Vic wrote: Hi got a off the wall question here, I am wondering if when formatting a ext2 zip disk, if it is ok to reserve only 1% of it for the "superuser" instead of the default 5%? I would do 0%... cause you always get out of space in something smaller than 75gb... :) -- "No tire sus colillas en el mingitorio, las humedece y las hace dificil de encender" "Do not dump butts in the wc. They dampen and it makes them difficult to light." --Tom Sharpe, "Wilt on high" -- My new linux web server with Apache http://kittypuss.dnydns.org Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
As far as applixware goes. I would give it a wide berth. I tried the demo the other day and am not suitably impressed. The word program was ghastly, and the less said about the e-mail client the better. Despite its flaws, Staroffice is still your best bet as far as office apps go. Wayne ==
Re: [expert] How much superuser percentage to reserve??
It is a safety margin for the super user. If a process or user fills up the disk drive to capacity, the superuser has a small amount of disk space reserved for use. This disk space allows the superuser room to correct scripts (or generate new ones) to help clean up the hard drive or fix a runaway application. Without this space available, the system could not even let the super user in if any temporary files were created during the login process. On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Vic wrote: What is this reserving for superuser for? In other words what is its purpose? On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, Marcos Dione mewed: On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Vic wrote: Hi got a off the wall question here, I am wondering if when formatting a ext2 zip disk, if it is ok to reserve only 1% of it for the "superuser" instead of the default 5%? I would do 0%... cause you always get out of space in something smaller than 75gb... :)
[expert] Multiple Kernels under LILO
Hello all, I read something about this in a Kernel Howto. My questions are: 1) How well does this work? 2) Is this recommended? ( I need to recompile my kernel, and I want to hold on to the orig. But would like to try to switch back with minimal work involved (in the event that there are problems) Laterz! Icebreaker *** If ignorance is bliss, then why aren't there more happy people?
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
Most of what I have heard of is installation problems on Caldera and SuSE. Seg faults and slowness. The people who have it running seem to like it I know it was rushed out because I talked to some of the developers who admitted there were some things not quite resolved. Jeanette - Original Message - From: Michael Holt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux What kind of problems? I've heard their OS version of linux wasn't doing to hot, but I was hearing that WINE is working out pretty good. I had doubts at first because anything that's emulated *should* be slower than the real thing, but again, I've been hearing the opposite. Mike Jeanette Russo wrote: I went to the same show but in Chicago, the Suite does look good but it runs on WINE. I am already seeing a lot of posts in their newsgroups about the problems stemming from their decision to do their Linux office suite running on WINE.Jeanette - Original Message - From:Michael Holt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 12:15 AM Subject: [expert] Office Suite for LinuxHello all! I just wanted to say, I went to the Corel-linux roadshow last night in Seattle and while I'm not really impressed with their OS version of linux, I was VERY impressed with their Office Suite. If anybody out there would like to get their hands on an alternative to M$ Office, I HIGHLY recommend Corels WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux. I also use M$ Word 2000 for Windows, and I think that Corel just blew them out of the water!!! -- Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
I did hear that CompUSA is going to have it at their anniversary sale for $4.99 so that maybe the time to buy it Jeanette - Original Message - From: "Michael Holt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux It's about $149 at CompUSA here in Kirkland, WA. I'm waiting for Sunday when the ads come out though, to see if they run a sale. Mike MandrakeBSD wrote: how much does corel office cost? regards - Original Message - From: Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux I am running Corel office now and really like the fact that they are running it using wine. Now Linux has a full office suite that has office 97-2000 filters. The fonts look great and the speed is very good. Give it a try. On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, you wrote: I went to the same show but in Chicago, the Suite does look good but it runs on WINE. I am already seeing a lot of posts in their newsgroups about the problems stemming from their decision to do their Linux office suite running on WINE. Jeanette - Original Message - From: Michael Holt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 12:15 AM Subject: [expert] Office Suite for Linux Hello all! I just wanted to say, I went to the Corel-linux roadshow last night in Seattle and while I'm not really impressed with their OS version of linux, I was VERY impressed with their Office Suite. If anybody out there would like to get their hands on an alternative to M$ Office, I HIGHLY recommend Corels WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux. I also use M$ Word 2000 for Windows, and I think that Corel just blew them out of the water!!! -- Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] NAT - proxy package
I have been trying to setup Mandrake and ipchains on an old Pentium 100 with 32meg RAM -- The kernel is compiled to support ipchains on kernel 2.2.14--- Ipchains and all the kernel modules are in place... The system gets a ip address via modem connection to the internet and ppp. The ethernet card is set as 169.254.0.1 I've created an ipchainsup script created verbatim from some sample ipchains scripts I found on the web... I've now tried several different scripts and ipchains still refuses to work... I am now completely frustrated with ip chains... I can get the others systems on the network internet access by using the squid proxy package -- which works fine -- but for some reason will not allow you to send mail from a yahoo web mail account...Ie you cannot enter anything from one of the Windows98 client machines running IE5...but can surf and pull up any web page -- including reading yahoo mail. The location or address bar works just fine -- but the compose mail form refuses to work...and will work fine from the same machine under its own dial up connection... Is there a stand-alone app-based NAT or complete proxy package for Linux?? (ala Sygate for Windows style...that is kernel independent...) Please help-- James Rooker
[expert]Multiple Kernels with LILO
Hello all, I read something about this in a Kernel Howto. My questions are: 1) How well does this work? 2) Is this recommended? ( I need to recompile my kernel, and I want to hold on to the orig. But would like to try to switch back with minimal work involved (in the event that there are problems) Laterz! Icebreaker *** If ignorance is bliss, then why aren't there more happy people?
Re: [expert] Oversized Ethernet frame
I had this problem too with my D-link (DFE-528X ???) card, which under linux is detected as via-rhine. It is very annoying to get all those messages on you screen, but they cause no data-corruption (at least not over here) in the transferred files. Therefore I went to my kernel-source dir, located the source-code of the via-rhine driver, commented out all those warnings, and recompiled the module installed it. It never bugged me ever since ;-) On Apr 8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening to all. The network is behind the server (gateway, firewall, router etc). All the masquarading features are compilled in. Eth1 - internal ethernet, eth2 - external one. There eth2: Oversized Ehernet frame wts53something84hdg appears in the active console. Please, tell me what to do?:) All the needed info (about kernel (2.2.14) and system (mandrake 7.0) I can send out later. Thank you in advance. -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
[expert] Network
Quick question to ask if anyone knows of any utilities that will watch your network activity. I have a full time connection through my Universities internet server and am obviously open to some problems. What I am looking for is a package that will let me know if anyone tries to get access to my stuff. Thanks, Wayne
Re: [expert] Multiple Kernels under LILO
Sure, I'd even recommend it if you frequently recompile/upgrade your kernel. Kernels you should always keep on your box (together with their modules, if any, of course) are: a) The original kernel that shipped with the distro. This one is fully modular and _should_ work in any circumstances. Therefore it is the fallback-kernel for if anything goes wrong with one of the other kernels. b) The previously recompiled and branded "stable" kernel. This one is there just in case the test-kernel screws up, so you have a fallback kernel for the latest kernelversion, in case the default shipped kernel isn't the latest version anymore. c) The test-kernel. This is the freshly recompiled kernel you just installed, but still don't trust enough to brand it "stable". You can set this one up as default kernel, because probably this one will have features you'd like to test that the "stable" kernel hasn't (at least, that's what usually happens over here). Note: when I refer to "test" and "stable", I don't mean "development" and "stable" (like in 2.3-series vs 2.2-series), but just the "tested and approved" kernel you recompiled vs the "untested" kernel. On Apr 8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I read something about this in a Kernel Howto. My questions are: 1) How well does this work? 2) Is this recommended? ( I need to recompile my kernel, and I want to hold on to the orig. But would like to try to switch back with minimal work involved (in the event that there are problems) Laterz! Icebreaker *** If ignorance is bliss, then why aren't there more happy people? -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
Re: [expert] Cable modem
I'm not sure, but you can type ifconfig to find out. (Or ping, or whatever.) On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: | Hi folks ! | | A friend of mine would use linux and he has cable modem | connection with static IP. My question is : if I set up the NIC and it | comes up at boot time, is the connection established then ? (that's | the default nature of this under the M$ product) If the answer is yes | I think I should immediatelly set a packet filtering firewall up for him. | Thanks, | Ago | | "If you love somebody set them free..." | Sting is GPL fan :-)) | A hivatalos magyar KDE oldal : www.kde.hu -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Tulip NIC problem
Interesting. Their PCMCIA card doesn't require any special drivers . . .. On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, you wrote: | I recently installed a linksys fast ehternet 10/100 card on my system. I had | to use compile the driver(tulip.c) from the diskette to make my card work. I | configured as a module. | | Sridhar | | - Original Message - | From: "Jayson S Baird" [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 12:33 PM | Subject: [expert] Tulip NIC problem | | | When using Mandrake 7.0 after install, it fails to access the | network. ifconfig reads that my mask, IP and broadcast addresses are | correct and my default route is set correctly through route. The light on | my hub fails to light up though. My card works in RedHat 6-6.2 and just | for some reason doesn't want to work in Mandrake. DrakX successfully found | my card and in bootup it says it is starting up eth0. Any ideas on how to | remedy this problem? | | Jay | | Jayson Baird - Kansas State University CNS UNIX Administrator | "My only skill as a programmer is twisted cleverness..'Click mouse to | continue *click* release to detonate.'" | | -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Alt-F7 = crash!
Well, technically it's only "alt-7" (as in the title of the mail thread here), but I doubt that this makes any difference. It's not supposed to do that, but I recommend using ctl-alt-F2 rather than ctl-alt-F1 myself. Not sure if you would help you any, but it's worth a try. On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: | Ctrl-Alt-F7 returns me to X, but none of the buttons or icons work. I can | move windows around, but I can't do anything in them. | | --- Tom Berkley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ctrl-Alt-F7 (works here on two different boxes) | | Tom | | Ron Johnson wrote: | | Civileme wrote: | | [snip] |use ctrl-alt-fx where x is in the range 2-5 f1 brings you to the |console which X is running on top of and anything you do there is | likely |to break X. | | Once I've pressed ctrl-alt-f1, how do I get back to X ? | | Ron | -- | +--+ | | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Jefferson, LA USA WWW : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | | Most overused words: feel, cool/kewl, fun, myBlah.com| | | Most underused word: think | | +--+ | | | | = | Mage Grimau, Strange Unwashed Somewhat Slightly Dazed | VoiceMail/Fax: 1-651-328-1145 | | __ | Do You Yahoo!? | Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. | http://im.yahoo.com -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Please Define Pipe
A pipe is one of these: grep foo /bar/baz/* | more It's one of the basic Unix concepts, along with background processes, tree-structured directories and the "man" command. It let's data move from one process to another so that there is no need to create an intermediate file for communication, nor for an application to be written as a single monolithic whole; rather, it can be written as a series of small, simple "filters." On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: | I keep running into the term "pipe". It is usually associated with video or audio |applications. Could someone explain it to me | what it is or point me in the right direction? | | Thanks, | Seve -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] CDrw and CD
If you make them both scsi, though, you need to make both /dev/cdrom entries point to the two /dev/scd devices, too. On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: | "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Deim_Ágoston?=" wrote: | | Hi folks ! | | Again, I have another problem. How could I use the CD-RW and the | CD-ROM in the same machine ? Both are IDE driven. So, what's | suspicious to me. If I want to burn CDs I have to recompile my | kernel without the IDE-CD support and with the SCSI generic and | SCSI-emulation support (among others). So, after this could I use | my simple CD-ROM like a SCSI device without problems ? | Thanks, | Ago | | "If you love somebody set them free..." | Sting is GPL fan :-)) | A hivatalos magyar KDE oldal : www.kde.hu | | In the LILO append="hdd=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi' | | In /etc/conf.modules: | | First line , alais scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi | --- other items here- | Last line post-install supermount modprobe scsi_hostadapter -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Alt-F7 = crash!
I have run into this problem but only after having done a suspend previously since the last boot. It happens quite consistently if I suspend twice between boots. (The process of suspending forces you out of X before suspending to avoid another lockup.) Also, in spite of civilme's experience, as long as I stay away from suspending, I do ctnl-alt-F2 / do stuff / alt-F7 all the time without problems. I would stay away from ctnl-alt-F1, though. That's that console that psuedo-lanched the X session in the first place. On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote: | In the ongoing tradition of "weird wacky" Ver 7.0-2 problems: | | If I log into KDE as usual, then Ctrl-Alt-F1 to go to a text console | all goes well, until I Alt-F7 to get back to KDE. | | All I get is a black screen. The only keyboard combo that does anything | that I can find is Ctrl-Alt-Del, which does a proper shutdown (although | I can't see anything on the monitor) and reboot. Num lock, Caps lock | scroll lock lights don't toggle, Alt-F1 (or Ctrl-Alt-F1) or any other F | key does nothing, nor does Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. The monitor doesn't come | back until the machine restarts. | | I've looked in all the /var/log files for something that might explain | it - but all looks fine to me (but I don't really know what I'm looking | for!) | | Anybody have any solutions/hints/comments/guesses??? | | Thanks, | | Trevor -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] The ongoing tradition of weird wacky Ver 7.0-2 problems continues
Larry Sword wrote: A look in /dev shows that the cd-Rom is correctly linked, @cdrom-hdc. There is also a cdrom1, linked , @cdrom1-/dev/hdd. The @cdrom2-hdd is also linked to hdd. Anyway to get the cd-rom2 icon the properly open and read and display the second cd-rom, which is the CDRW we had to edit the link in /dev/@cdrom2-hdd to @cdrom2-scd0. Now that it is correctly linked all is working fine. Been there, done that. You have, I'm guessing that both cd's are on the same cable, set the dip switches to the correct master or slave settings?? That too! Both devices work perfectly under win95 and BeOS 5, only Linux has problems.
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: Thus spake Sheldon Lee Wen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sun has released a preview of 5.2 (~80-100 MB and available for Windoze and Linux). Yes and it chokes on large complex msword docs. *hysterical laughter* So does Microsoft Word... have you ever tried to manage a document that's more than 18 pages in Word? With images and tables of contents? *h* *giggle* -Stephen- So that just means Sun IS compatible! g
Re: [expert] Multiple Kernels under LILO
It's not a problem. After you compile your kernel, copy arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-new-version (of course, use the correct version number) and also copy System.map to /boot/System.map-new-version. You'll want to re-link /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/System.map to the new files, and add a new "image" section to /etc/lilo.conf like so: boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map prompt timeout=50 image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda1 read-only ### The new section follows ### image=/boot/vmlinuz-old-kernel label=old root=/dev/hda1 read-only This'll boot the new by default, but if it doesn't work, you can always boot "old." Be sure to run /sbin/lilo after editing the file. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
Thus spake Wayne Petherick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): As far as applixware goes. I would give it a wide berth. I tried the demo the other day and am not suitably impressed. The word program was ghastly, and the less said about the e-mail client the better. Despite its flaws, Staroffice is still your best bet as far as office apps go. Well, my experience was exactly the reverse. Hated star office - slow as molasses in my office, actually froze the system at home. I don't use the email client and the underlying paradigm of the suite is slightly different from windoze-based ones; I can understand omeone not taking to it. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. |
Re: [expert]Multiple Kernels with LILO
- Original Message - From: "Icebreaker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Expert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: [expert]Multiple Kernels with LILO Hello all, I read something about this in a Kernel Howto. My questions are: 1) How well does this work? Yes, works fine, no reason it shouldn't. You should "mv /lib/modules /lib/modules.bak" if you are recompiling your current kernel tho... don't need to if you are compiling another version e.g. 2.2.13 instead of 2.2.14... 2) Is this recommended? ( I need to recompile my kernel, and I want to hold on to the orig. But would like to try to switch back with minimal work involved (in the event that there are problems) It is reccomended bigtime... I'm really glad I had a backup Kernel tarballs come with a readme from Linus, in hindsight, it is a good idea to print it out, read it, follow the instructions *step by step* :o) -WBD
Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart
Ok, that verifies that removing that last line of /etc/inittab was a kludge fix, and we still haven't figured out the *real* question; namely, *why* are you at run-level 5 when you are asking for run-level 3? Somebody must be throwing you into run-level 5, but who? Why? What did you do to deserve this? A possible way to find out is to do a ps alwf /root/ps-output when you go to run-level 5; eg, put this: :5:respawn:ps alwf /root/ps-output in your /etc/inittab. Then we can at least see what's going on when this happens. Also, your /var/log/messages might show something about switching to run-level 5. Perhaps it will give a clue to who is doing it? On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: | Brian T. Schellenberger said: | Well, it's not X, really, that's broken, it's the run levels. | | To verify that this is what we've really done, could you indulge us all | and just issue the "runlevel" command (no arguments) and let us all | know what it says? | | Hey, I'm willing to indulge you guys quite a bit for helping me out. g | Here is what "runlevel" says when X is running: # 5 | And here's what it says with just the console after I exit X completely: #5 | | So I guess you're right about the run levels being broken. | -- | Lane | | Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA | Using Linux to get where I want to go... -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: So does Microsoft Word... have you ever tried to manage a document that's more than 18 pages in Word? With images and tables of contents? Ahem, I did. 291 pages, more than 80 images, footnotes, toc and index, all with Word97. Wrote it in separate docs and finally put the whole thing together. Took me 2 working days to manually correct pagebreaks, footnotes, image-descriptions, Pagenumbers in toc, etc. The biggest document I ever did in Word 97 was some 45, 50 pages, with photos, tables, footnotes, etc... it was very unstable -- it would choke halfway through printing (and no, it wasn't it the printer's fault -- it happened on different machines with different printers) - okay, fine, so we print from where the last print job stopped, right? Wrong -- now all the page numbers were incorrect (it had tremendous difficulty with pagination, it seemed). It was infuriating. I'll never trust a large document to Word again -- if I need to do big stuff I'll use Framemaker (which comes in a version for Unix, by lucky happenstance =) ). Trying to make a point that you *can* do a large doc in Word! Also you could do large documents in stones some 4000 yrs ago! Just a matter of time and manpower. Yes... but by extension you could also do it in StarOffice =) -Stephen-
Re: [expert]Multiple Kernels with LILO
Icebreaker wrote: I read something about this in a Kernel Howto. My questions are: 1) How well does this work? This works very well. And... 2) Is this recommended? ...yes, it is recommended. You need to have a way to boot to your old kernel if your new kernel is crashy or gives you trouble. I have never had a problem with this. -Stephen-
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
Trevor Farrell wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: Thus spake Sheldon Lee Wen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sun has released a preview of 5.2 (~80-100 MB and available for Windoze and Linux). Yes and it chokes on large complex msword docs. *hysterical laughter* So does Microsoft Word... have you ever tried to manage a document that's more than 18 pages in Word? With images and tables of contents? *h* *giggle* -Stephen- So that just means Sun IS compatible! g *laughs* Yes, I suppose it is =) -Stephen-
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
"Michael" == Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael What kind of problems? I've heard their OS version of Michael linux wasn't doing to hot, but I was hearing that WINE is Michael working out pretty good. I had doubts at first because Michael anything that's emulated *should* be slower than the real Michael thing, but again, I've been hearing the opposite. [snipped stuff, especially unnecessary html from Mozilla] But Wine is not an emulator. -- Mike Fieschko, West Orange, NJ, USA X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1.8 XEmacs and random-sig.el Kernel 2.2.15-0.17mdk http://www.viconet.com/fieschko/home.htm Apr 8 Feria of Lent
Re: [expert] kppp prevents other X apps from opening
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, you wrote: I had the same problem with an isp that assigned me an invalid hostname on connection. If I opened an xterm before I dialed and then once connected used the xterm to set my hostname back to what it was then everything "unfroze." Wierd I know. Go into your KPPP config and UNCHECK the "autoconfigure hostname from this address" and all will be well again. You will no longer need your "fix." John
Re: [expert] Please Define Pipe
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: I keep running into the term "pipe". It is usually associated with video or audio applications. Could someone explain it to me what it is or point me in the right direction? See that symbol right above the "backslash" key? That's the pipe symbol. You use it thusly: ps aux | grep startx The vertical "bar" is the "pipe" symbol. Basically it just means "redirect." In the example above, I'm piping "ps aux" through "grep" looking for "startx." ONLY lines with "startx" will show (which includes the above command line.) John
Re: [expert] kppp prevents other X apps from opening
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: Possibly. If you are using a higher security level and you have ALL:ALL:DENY in your /etc/hosts.deny file then you may want to alter it to ALL:ALL except localhost:DENY. I'm 99.% sure it's the "autoconfigure hostname from this IP" bug in KPPP. Unchecking that box will solve this problem 99.9% of the time. John
Re: [expert] kppp prevents other X apps from opening
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: Anyone know enough about X to tell us how to correct this? Yeah: In KPPP, UNCHECK the "autoconfigure hostname from this IP." THAT will fix it. The problem is that KPPP is assigning you a new hostname, not your ISP. John
Re: [expert] Office Suite for Linux
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, you wrote: how much does corel office cost? About $100 US John
Re: [expert] Network
On Sun, 09 Apr 2000, you wrote: Quick question to ask if anyone knows of any utilities that will watch your network activity. I have a full time connection through my Universities internet server and am obviously open to some problems. What I am looking for is a package that will let me know if anyone tries to get access to my stuff. Find a package called "sniffit." John
Re: [expert] Cable modem
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: Hi folks ! A friend of mine would use linux and he has cable modem connection with static IP. My question is : if I set up the NIC and it comes up at boot time, is the connection established then ? (that's the default nature of this under the M$ product) If the answer is yes I think I should immediatelly set a packet filtering firewall up for him. DAMN STRAIGHT!!! You should *DEFINITELY* set up a firewall! Having a "raw" linux box on an unfiltered cablemodem is an invitation to hackers!!! John
Re: [expert] Alt-F7 = crash!
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: Ctrl-Alt-F7 returns me to X, but none of the buttons or icons work. I can move windows around, but I can't do anything in them. Then, you have likely done something to X when you went to console #1. Try restarting your system and this time, DON'T USE CONSOLE #1 WHILE UNDER X!!! John
Re: [expert] Alt-F7 = crash!
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote: However, if I use Ctrl-Alt-F2 instead of F1, when I return everything works right. So? Just don't use CTRL+ALT+F1. Simple. John
Re: [expert] Alt-F7 = crash!
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, you wrote: Civileme wrote: [snip] use ctrl-alt-fx where x is in the range 2-5 f1 brings you to the console which X is running on top of and anything you do there is likely to break X. Once I've pressed ctrl-alt-f1, how do I get back to X ? alt+F7, assuming you haven't done anything to distrub X. You should really use CTRL+ALT+F2 or higher. John
Re: [expert] Network
Wayne, ipchains is included in your Mandrrake 7.0-2. http://www.rustcorp.com/linux/ipchains/HOWTO.html Wayne Petherick wrote: Quick question to ask if anyone knows of any utilities that will watch your network activity. I have a full time connection through my Universities internet server and am obviously open to some problems. What I am looking for is a package that will let me know if anyone tries to get access to my stuff. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
Re: [expert] The ongoing tradition of weird wacky Ver 7.0-2 problems continues
Trevor Farrell wrote: The ongoing tradition of "weird wacky" Ver 7.0-2 problems continues: Two new ones for you to dissect and enlighten me on (please)! 1) OK, by now you all know I've got a CDrom and a CRrw (right?) and that the CDrw works OK as a CDrom, but has some problems burning - but thats not the problem here! Now I got my sound card working I thought I'd use it to listen to my fav CD while working. Fine - music to my ears, until I popped a data CD into the CDrw to get a file - as soon as supermount mounted the Cdrw, my music died. The CD player kept on counting seconds, just no sound. Anyway, I fiddled with ejecting the CD and putting it back in, shutting down and restarting the CD player (the standard KDE one) and all I managed to do was lock up the Cd player so I had to use XKill to zap it good. Fine, I thought, lets use the M$ solution to get my sound back - logout - shutdown - reboot... I think you found a combination that wasn't anticipated... Well, it didn't like that - timeout errors trying to unmount the CDrom (hdc) and the system stopped there - could not shut down! Eventually had to use the master reset switch (the off button!) Seems to do the same with or without supermount. Any ideas??? 2) LICQ doesn't like me using the shift key on a long line - invariably garbles the text I've already typed. Anyone else have that one??? Yes, everyone using the stock supplied Licq. Get the newer edition and qt2.1 from cooker and it will fix. Trevor Civileme
Re: [expert] Network
Wayne Petherick wrote: Quick question to ask if anyone knows of any utilities that will watch your network activity. I have a full time connection through my Universities internet server and am obviously open to some problems. What I am looking for is a package that will let me know if anyone tries to get access to my stuff. Thanks, Wayne iplog Available by checking www.freshmeat.net It will even fool versions of nmap before BETA 18 Civileme
Re: [expert] NAT - proxy package
rooker wrote: The ethernet card is set as 169.254.0.1 I've created an ipchainsup script created verbatim from some sample ipchains scripts I found on the web... I've now tried several different scripts and ipchains still refuses to work... I am now completely frustrated with ip chains... It helps neither you nor us if you do not communicate the problems and difficulties you had with ipchains. For example, what thinking makes you conclude it is refusing to work? -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.