RE: [expert] Connection Sharing with IPtables

2001-09-10 Thread Gregor Maier


On 10-Sep-2001 Tom Badran wrote:
> I asked about connection sharing a short while ago, and got plenty of 
> respones about doing it with ipchains. Todady i decided to make it work with 
> ip tables, and found a very simple script for doing it that i thought others 
> may be interested in. Is in the ip-masquerade-simple howto at linuxdoc.org.
> 
> Just thought this might be helpful to a few people.
> 
> -- 
> Tom "Tomahawk" Badran
> Department of Computing, Imperial College

AFAIK there's none there. But just have a look a netfilter.filewatcher.org.
Browse to the HOWTO section and get the Packet-Filtering and the NAT HOWTO (in
the NAT HOWTO is the place to look for masquerading)

Gregor 

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Re: [expert] Possible IDE disk problem?

2001-09-10 Thread J. Craig Woods

Daniel Axtell wrote:
> 
> I just finished installing Mandrake 8.0 a new WD 200bb Caviar drive.
> After rebooting the first time, the console came up with this error
> message:
> 
> hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady Seek Complete Error}
> hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> 
> The drive is brand new, but the motherboard has been used for a couple of
> months (it's an ABit KT7-RAID with the Via KT133 chipset).  With the
> previous harddrive (also a WD Caviar) I occasionally got this message, but
> the machine never gave me any problems.  Now that I'm turning it into a
> webserver I'm a little concerned.
> 
> Is this something is likely to go away with a kernel upgrade (I'm using
> the stock 2.4.3-20 kernel, but plan to upgrade it to the latest soon), or
> by upgrading the BIOS, changing BIOS settings, or is it a potentially
> dangerous hardware error?
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 

Hmmm, did you ever have LMDK8.0 running while using the KT133 chipset on
your ABIT M/B? The ABIT M/B most likely uses the 686B South Bridge chip,
and I could never get Mandrake to work unless the kernal version was at
least 2.4.7 or above. Even now, with 8.1 beta3, kernel 2.4.8-18, I am
having a bear of a time (just look at what OS I am using now). Some
boards with 686B will run Mandrake, and some will not, like the Tyan I
am using. Not sure if this is happening to you but I thought I better
share this info

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[expert] Bad Blocks on Ext2 fs

2001-09-10 Thread Sridhar Govindarajulu

Couple of days back I started hearing funny noises from my HD. Sometimes LM
8 stops and drops me to the prompt advising me run fsck manually.

I am not sure if any precious data exists on the bad blocks. Hop do I mark
the bad blocks so that it will not be used by the file system.

I tried to boot from my LM 8 CD into rescue mode and ran fsck.ext2, now I am
not sure what options to supply to mark/repair the bad blocks, Any advise

Right now most of the time my system boots properly, but sometimes dosen't
boot.

(PS I do smoke near my machine, I am sure that's a problem)

Cheers & Thanks
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[expert] Joystick help

2001-09-10 Thread Cecil Watson

Hello Everyone,

I appreciate some help getting my joystick working.  I modprobed joydev,
ns558 and analog, but when I jstest /dev/js0, I get no such device?! 
Any ideas?  Using 2.4 kernel the sound card is SB64.  Thanks in advance,

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Re: [expert] Some X expert please

2001-09-10 Thread s

On Monday 10 September 2001 09:26 pm,  Sheldon E. Newhouse wrote:
> Hello,
>  I'm hoping that there is someone who can help.  I sent this message
> several times and got some suggestions which did not work.
>
> After a system crash I lost the capability to start X.
>
> I get the error messages
>  failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
>  could not open default font 'fixed'
>
> I know that X can run because in the boot sequence it runs the graphical
> boot screen.   There must be some file somewhere that needs to be adjusted
> or removed.  It won't load X as root or any user.  I even reinstalled the
> X packages to no avail.
>
> Next step is to just reinstall the whole damn thing.
>
> Anyone have any ideas about what and where to fix the font path
>'unix/:-1' ?
>
> TIA,
>  -sen

One of the things you can check is if your /tmp or root partition is 
(practically) full.   Make some space or clean up /tmp if so. 

Here's a link with a big (troubleshooting) section on this topic:
http://feenix.burgiss.net/xstuff/xfs.html
talking about checking links and logs for clues and such with some good 
suggestions.
Good luck,
-s




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Re: [expert] Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???

2001-09-10 Thread Expert

Dohh! Sorry about that.
I have not tried that yet, is there a url I can test it with?

I would like to know that myself now that it has been
said, excellent question.

Thanks


On Monday 10 September 2001 12:48 pm, so spoke Mike Leone:
> mplayer, eh? Can it do STREAMING .ASF, for all those sites that only stream
> Windows Media Player format? I don't mean download a .ASF file, and then
> play it when it's completely transferred; I mean real-time streaming (like
> we can with RealPlayer)?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Expert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???
>
>
> Strangely enough, I got mplayer to play wmv files,
> but then in the terminal window it tells me:
> "asf format detected" so maybe there are more
> than one kind of wmv files?
>
> On Monday 10 September 2001 12:15 am, so spoke Mark:
> > Can windows media files such as .wmv be viewed in Linux other than
> > porting the ms media player across.  I really don't have any other need
> > for windows products bar this one and don not wish to install windows at
> > all.  I can't seem to find any linux program that plays these files OR
> > is there a way of converting the .wmv to a readable file such as mpg
> >
> > thanx
> >
> > Mark
>
> 
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[expert] Some X expert please

2001-09-10 Thread Sheldon E. Newhouse

Hello,
 I'm hoping that there is someone who can help.  I sent this message
several times and got some suggestions which did not work.

After a system crash I lost the capability to start X.

I get the error messages
 failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
 could not open default font 'fixed'

I know that X can run because in the boot sequence it runs the graphical
boot screen.   There must be some file somewhere that needs to be adjusted
or removed.  It won't load X as root or any user.  I even reinstalled the
X packages to no avail.

Next step is to just reinstall the whole damn thing.

Anyone have any ideas about what and where to fix the font path
   'unix/:-1' ?

TIA,
 -sen





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Re: [expert] power loss and now no X

2001-09-10 Thread Pierre Fortin

"Sheldon E. Newhouse" wrote:
> 
> Following earlier suggestions, I tried to run
> 
> service xfs start, but it made no difference.  I even removed all the
> XFree86* rpm's and reinstalled them.  Again no difference.

make sure xfs is running with:  service xfs status

If not, check /var/log/messages.  

If xfs is running, check /var/log/XFree86.*.log for errors.

HTH,
Pierre



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Re: [expert] How can I improve the fonts on Konqueror

2001-09-10 Thread Al Andersen

Abiword is probably mucking with your Netscape fonts. If you don't use 
Abiword, find the abisuite-xx.rpm in the package manager, and remove it. 
Your netscape will now have great fonts.

If you use Abiword, perhaps someone else might offer a less drastic solution. 
Or search the archives for "abiword font netscape", or some such derivative.

-Al

On Monday 10 September 2001 01:22, you wrote:

> I get very poor fonts in Konqueror. In fact I cannot
> even read the messages on this news group. I'm using
> Netscape. Can anyone offer some suggestions?



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[expert] select 2.2.19 for mdk 8.0 install

2001-09-10 Thread billk

In an mdk8.0 install, how does one select the 2.2.19 kernel?

BillK



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Re: [expert] power loss and now no X

2001-09-10 Thread Sheldon E. Newhouse

Following earlier suggestions, I tried to run

service xfs start, but it made no difference.  I even removed all the
XFree86* rpm's and reinstalled them.  Again no difference.

Here are the error messages.

Any ideas?  Do I have to do a complete reinstall?

TIA,
 -sen

_FontTrans*. . . Connect: Can't connect: errno = 111
failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
Fatal server error
cuould not open default font 'fixed'




> Hello,
>  My system lost power last night, and now I can't get X to run. Says
> something like "can't find fixed fonts."
>
> Is there a simple fix, or do I have to reinstall X again?
>
> TIA,
>  -sen
>
>
>
>

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Re: [expert] VPN between 2 offices with LM Firewalls

2001-09-10 Thread Darcy Brodie, CJL

Dave Sherman wrote:

> On 06 Sep 2001 22:14:12 -0600, Darcy Brodie, CJL wrote:
> > Question:
> > Going through the VPN, can I make a continous connection as long
> > as the workstation is running, and allow it to send information to the
> > Unix Server, as well as receive print information to a local printer
> > connected to the remote linux workstation (they need to be able to print
> > invoices, etc from the remote location)
> > I can already establish a SSH connection to the main server, but I
> > am unsure if it will allow printing functions to be processed at the
> > remote end.
> > Any suggestions on possible methods of achieving this?
>
> Are you planning on running ppp over ssh for your VPN (Ack! Acronym
> overload!)? If so, there is a good how-to at
> www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/VPN-HOWTO.html
>
> Dave

To be honest here, I am not sure.  I am currently in the  "information"
gathering stage right now (can it be donw, and if so, how) I will check out
that how-to and see what it has to say

Darcy






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Re: [expert] Possible IDE disk problem?

2001-09-10 Thread Hoyt

On Monday 10 September 2001 06:43 pm, Daniel Axtell wrote:
> I just finished installing Mandrake 8.0 a new WD 200bb Caviar drive.
> After rebooting the first time, the console came up with this error
> message:
>
> hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady Seek Complete Error}
> hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
>
> The drive is brand new, but the motherboard has been used for a couple of
> months (it's an ABit KT7-RAID with the Via KT133 chipset).  With the
> previous harddrive (also a WD Caviar) I occasionally got this message, but
> the machine never gave me any problems.  Now that I'm turning it into a
> webserver I'm a little concerned.
>
> Is this something is likely to go away with a kernel upgrade (I'm using
> the stock 2.4.3-20 kernel, but plan to upgrade it to the latest soon), or
> by upgrading the BIOS, changing BIOS settings, or is it a potentially
> dangerous hardware error?
>

I'd do the usual:

Check integrity of physical hardware, tightness of connections, swap in a 
known good IDE cable if problem persists after this check.

Boot in rescue mode and use fsck and badblocks on the disk. Backup any 
critical data while you're at it.

Re-boot and see if the problem stil exists. If so, try the drive on another 
known working computer. Still same error? Then it's _likely_ the hardware.

See if the drive manufacturer (like Maxtor) offers a DOS-bootable test 
utility for the drive and check it out.

Hoyt




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[expert] Possible IDE disk problem?

2001-09-10 Thread Daniel Axtell


I just finished installing Mandrake 8.0 a new WD 200bb Caviar drive.
After rebooting the first time, the console came up with this error
message:

hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady Seek Complete Error}
hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }

The drive is brand new, but the motherboard has been used for a couple of
months (it's an ABit KT7-RAID with the Via KT133 chipset).  With the
previous harddrive (also a WD Caviar) I occasionally got this message, but
the machine never gave me any problems.  Now that I'm turning it into a
webserver I'm a little concerned.

Is this something is likely to go away with a kernel upgrade (I'm using
the stock 2.4.3-20 kernel, but plan to upgrade it to the latest soon), or
by upgrading the BIOS, changing BIOS settings, or is it a potentially
dangerous hardware error?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Dan





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Re: [expert] Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???

2001-09-10 Thread Hoyt

On Monday 10 September 2001 01:15 am, you wrote:
> Can windows media files such as .wmv be viewed in Linux other than
> porting the ms media player across.  I really don't have any other need
> for windows products bar this one and don not wish to install windows at
> all.  I can't seem to find any linux program that plays these files OR
> is there a way of converting the .wmv to a readable file such as mpg
>


Is there a Netscape plugin for Windows that will play them? If so, maybe the 
Codeweavers Crossover Plugin can be useful?

Hoyt



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Re: [expert] Using printer attached to a Win95 box

2001-09-10 Thread Joseph Braddock

What kind of printer and what kinds of problems are you having?

Joe

On Monday 10 September 2001 01:43 pm, you wrote:
> I have tried to add my win95 ptr thru Webmin--Samba, Swat and printerdrake,
> and every time it wants to load a cups driver--and that is is whole source
> of my inability to print fm Linux. Not sure what to try now.
>
> Bruce



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Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread Hoyt

On Monday 10 September 2001 12:25 pm, you wrote:
> On my 8.0 system, I'm using Reiser FS for all partitions except for /boot,
> which is ext2.  I've seen on the web page about how 8.1 will have support
> for ext3 (which I presume is new?) in the kernel.  And I've seen comments
> here which suggest that there are 8.1 beta testers on the list who are
> using it on their systems.  So the question is:  What's the deal with ext3?
> Good, bad?  How is it different, what are the advantages/disadvantages of
> using it?
>

1. Easy to "promote" an existing ext2 filesystem to ext3 and three journaling 
modes, selected as options in /etc/fstab.

2. If necessary, an ext3 system can be mounted as ext2 (especially by other 
OS's that lack reiserfs support but have ext2 support), like if you use a 
non-Mandrake rescue disk or boot disk without ext3 support.

3. File and directory undeletion and recovery is possible with ext3 (as in 
ext2), but that is impossible with reiserfs at present.

I find #2 and # 3 compelling reason to use it over reiserfs. Performance 
requirements are a different matter.

Hoyt



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Re: [expert] Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???

2001-09-10 Thread Sevatio

Tmpgenc can convert MS video formats to mpeg.  Http://www.tmpgenc.com .   
You might be able to get it to run with Wine.

>> Original Message <<

On 9/9/01, 10:15:05 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [expert] 
Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???:


> Can windows media files such as .wmv be viewed in Linux other than
> porting the ms media player across.  I really don't have any other need
> for windows products bar this one and don not wish to install windows at
> all.  I can't seem to find any linux program that plays these files OR
> is there a way of converting the .wmv to a readable file such as mpg

> thanx

> Mark



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Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-10 Thread Ric Tibbetts

For all the reasons different operating systems exist, so exists reasons 
for using each.
It's a matter of rational choice. One needs look at ones requirements, 
then pick the proper OS.
Linux is great for some things, as is Mac, and even Windows. Each has 
it's place.

Use what works for you.

Ric


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>The constantly changing APIs/libraries.
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>Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make 
>sure no "ghosts from the past" remain to cause problems.  This 
>is because massive amounts of upgraded libraries were introduced, 
>and many directories were moved.  As we have seen so many threads 
>here on this list, upgrading a mdk7.2 system in these 8.0 days 
>requires compiling SRPMs, and many times, they won't work because 
>of the aforementioned upgraded libraries and moved directories.
>
>Just recently, I upgraded from KDE 2.1.1 to 2.2.  *Definitely*
>not something that non-geeks would ever contemplate or be able
>to do.  Noone could contemplate it on a dial-up line.
>
>Take for example my wife.  She's been using the same Win98 box
>with Office97 for 3 years.  The only upgrade has been to IE5.5.
>She *likes* it that way.  Could she be a happy, unchanging linux 
>desktop user for 3 years from 1998?  Don't think so.
>
>Could she be a happy linux desktop user for the 3 years starting
>now?  NO.  "Soon", qt3 will be released.  Then KDE3 will be re-
>leased.  Then will RPMs (or even SRPMs) created for KDE3 run on 
>her 2.2.  Of course not, since mdk can't create *RPMs of new
>programs for old releases, even the last one, since the new programs
>use so many new features.
>
>Only when you can install a new RPM on a 3yo kernel/desktop will
>linux be ready for the mass market desktop.
>
>Comments?
>
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Re: [expert] Documentation for rpm-python/rpmmodule?

2001-09-10 Thread Ron Johnson

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On Monday 10 September 2001 10:08 am, civileme wrote:
> On Sunday 09 September 2001 19:36, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Hello, all.
> >
> > A search through Google doesn't show any.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Use the source code.  Also you can get some documentation in a
> roundabout way from downloading rpmlint and reading that python
> source.  It is wonderful for examples of use of rpm-python.

Great!  rpmlint is already installed.

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Re: [expert] Using printer attached to a Win95 box

2001-09-10 Thread Bruce E.Harris

I have tried to add my win95 ptr thru Webmin--Samba, Swat and printerdrake, 
and every time it wants to load a cups driver--and that is is whole source of 
my inability to print fm Linux. Not sure what to try now.

Bruce



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[expert] Q. Corrupted Source for Software Manager

2001-09-10 Thread Linux-Fan

Hi Everyone,

Q.  In the process of upgrading to KDE 2.2 on my Mandrake 8.0 system, I 
defined a new source for the downloaded rpm files and now for some reason, 
which I can't decipher, I am unable to run the Software Manager.  How do I 
remove the new source via the command line?

If I run the Software Manager it hangs at the point where it is "Analysing 
the  source.

Any advice/suggestions greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.  Cheers.



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[expert] Q. Corrupted Source for Software Manager

2001-09-10 Thread Linux-Fan

Hi Everyone,

Q.  In the process of upgrading to KDE 2.2 on my Mandrake 8.0 system, I 
defined a new source for the downloaded rpm files and now for some reason, 
which I can't decipher, I am unable to run the Software Manager.  How do I 
remove the new source via the command line?

If I run the Software Manager it hangs at the point where it is "Analysing 
the  source.

Any advice/suggestions greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.  Cheers.



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Re: [expert] Partition table modification at boot, ML 8.0

2001-09-10 Thread Oscar

El Lun 10 Sep 2001 18:41, escribiste:
> Hello,
>
> I'm having a very anoying problem since I've upgraded
> Linux Mandrake 7.2 to 8.0 on two computers.
>
> The first computer has a hard disk of aprox. 5 GB,
> four primary partitions: the first two are NTFS, the
> third is the Linux system partition, and another Linux
> swap partition
> The active partition is the linux one which contains
> lilo.
> After upgrading from Mandrake 7.2 to 8.0 I noticed
> that NT doesn't see the second partition. The reason
> is that a linux component (probably lilo) had changed
> the partition type into 17 (hidden HPFS/NTFS).
> I tried to change it back to 7 (NTFS) but when I've
> booted NT, the partition it's again hidden.
>
> On the second box, HDD 20GB, the mandrake 8.0 upgrade
> modified the partition table worst than on the first
> one.
>
> The fdisk -V /dev/hda reports an amount of sectors
> unallocated. The cfdisk sees two segments of free
> space on the disk.
>
> I forget to mention that I didn't modified the
> partition table during the upgrade, on neither
> computer.
>
> Did someone had this problem already ?
>
> Thanks,
> Tudor.
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I had this problem...
I had 3 primary partitions... and it was the problem.
>From the lilo version in LM 8.0, it does "not support" more than *one* 
primary partition (MSDOS-like). If there are more primary partitions, it 
hides they at boot time.
My first fix was to install the lilo version from LM 7.2 CD's, but I remember 
I had problems with MandrakeUpdate (proposing me to update lilo at every run)
My final fix: backup and repartition disk, leaving only one primary partition 
and the others extended. Everything works fine now.
Salu2,
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Re: [expert] Using printer attached to a Win95 box

2001-09-10 Thread Oscar

El Lun 10 Sep 2001 20:59, escribiste:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible, and if so how, to have my Win95 act as my printer server
> for my Linux box? I cant get MK 8 to print and have gone to the darkside to
> print and it is becoming a real pain to work in Win all the time or ftp
> files over for printing.
>
> TIA
>
> Bruce

Just select "SMB printer" when adding the printer in printerdrake and follow 
the indications.
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Re: [expert] Using printer attached to a Win95 box

2001-09-10 Thread J. Craig Woods

"Bruce E.Harris" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible, and if so how, to have my Win95 act as my printer server for
> my Linux box? I cant get MK 8 to print and have gone to the darkside to print
> and it is becoming a real pain to work in Win all the time or ftp files over
> for printing.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Bruce

You betcha, just install samba on your linux box. Configure Samba to use
the win95 box, and you should be fine.

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Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread Sergio P.Korlowsky

On Monday 10 September 2001 11:25, you wrote:
> On my 8.0 system, I'm using Reiser FS for all partitions except for /boot,
> which is ext2.  I've seen on the web page about how 8.1 will have support
> for ext3 (which I presume is new?) in the kernel.  And I've seen comments
> here which suggest that there are 8.1 beta testers on the list who are
> using it on their systems.  So the question is:  What's the deal with ext3?
> Good, bad?  How is it different, what are the advantages/disadvantages of
> using it?
>
>  --Dave

Dave... 
I have been using ext2 for as long as I've being a Linux user, 
(about three years)

>From mdk-8.1 beta 1 on, I totatally switched to ext3, all partitions... 
and I am happy with it.   When moving files from a another hdd, I noticed 
increased speed on large files...  but decreses in small files when 
transfering.   Other thatn that... its overall performance is aceptable.

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RE: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread Franki

Well,

The first time I was updating, I actually read all the info for each
package, and it had the same "do not use mandrakeupdate to update this"
warning...

That was on 7.2, dunno about 8, but I am assuming it would be the same???


rgds

Frank
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Franki grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> Why not just set Mandrake update to popup a kernel and alsa warning and
not
> upgrade if the package starts with "kernel..."  or "alsa" that
shouldn't
> be that hard at all...

Alsa should not be upgraded via MandrakeUpdate, either??

(No, I haven't done that, and I don't think there's an update available
right now, but I found that to be curious)

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Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Badran


> I've been running qmail on boxes with reiserfs filesystems for years and
> I've never had any problems with the two existing co-operatively.

Like I said, its just something i read on a comparison about the two. I cant 
even remember the details of the problems.

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RE: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread Charles A Edwards





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?
> 
> 
> On Mon 10 Sep at 17:47:20 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
> > 
> > Ive seen benchmarks which suggest it is slower than 
> reiserfs generally. Its 
> > main advantage is that you can convert existing ext2 
> partitions to ext3 
> > without reformatting them (not relevant in your case i 
> believe). Ive also 
> > read that some apps that make bad assumptions about how 
> filesystems work 
> > (namely qmail and i think NFS) have some issues with 
> reiser. Ive personnally 
> > used reiser for about a year and bit and it has served me 
> very well, so if 
> > you are happy i cant reccomend a change, but im sure there 
> are many more 
> > advantages/disadvantages between the two which may swing 
> you desision.
> 
> I've been running qmail on boxes with reiserfs filesystems 
> for years and
> I've never had any problems with the two existing co-operatively.
> 
> Cheers,
> 

I installed 8.1 Beta3 using Ext3 on all partitions.
/boot,/, and /home

Starting kde or gnome seems to be a little sluggish
but this could be a factor of the Beta itself rather
than the FS.

Because this is a Beta not everything works as it should
so it has been necessary for me to do the 1 finger shutdown
on a couple of occasions.
The Ext3 had no problem handling it and there was no waiting
for fsck to complete as with ext2.

Overall I am pleased with the performance of Ext3 and plan 
to continue using it.

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Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread cb

On Mon 10 Sep at 17:47:20 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
> 
> Ive seen benchmarks which suggest it is slower than reiserfs generally. Its 
> main advantage is that you can convert existing ext2 partitions to ext3 
> without reformatting them (not relevant in your case i believe). Ive also 
> read that some apps that make bad assumptions about how filesystems work 
> (namely qmail and i think NFS) have some issues with reiser. Ive personnally 
> used reiser for about a year and bit and it has served me very well, so if 
> you are happy i cant reccomend a change, but im sure there are many more 
> advantages/disadvantages between the two which may swing you desision.

I've been running qmail on boxes with reiserfs filesystems for years and
I've never had any problems with the two existing co-operatively.

Cheers,

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Re: [expert] How can I improve the fonts on Konqueror

2001-09-10 Thread Gary Bond

I changed the fixed width font in look&feel to
dec-terminal and now it's much better. 

I do have a question about Netscape and fonts, I
cannot find a .Xdefaults file in my home (Gary)
directory, there's one in /root but it doesn't seem to
apply when I login as a Gary. I would like to fix the
fonts on Netscape as suggested in the HOWTOS fonts
netscape. Also can anyone help me with finding and
installing a Microsoft font pack, I've had no luck so
far.


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> El Lun 10 Sep 2001 10:22, escribiste:
> > I get very poor fonts in Konqueror. In fact I
> cannot
> > even read the messages on this news group. I'm
> using
> > Netscape. Can anyone offer some suggestions?
> 
> What is exactly the problem? Ugly fonts? Good fonts
> but bad font display? 
> Only in Konqueror? 
> Salu2,
> óscar.
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[expert] Using printer attached to a Win95 box

2001-09-10 Thread Bruce E.Harris

Hi,

Is it possible, and if so how, to have my Win95 act as my printer server for 
my Linux box? I cant get MK 8 to print and have gone to the darkside to print 
and it is becoming a real pain to work in Win all the time or ftp files over 
for printing.

TIA

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Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread Michael Ivanov

Try xfs.

I've been using reiserfs on all partitions for more than half a year, mostly
because of journaling. I have 600Mhz PIII with 128Mb RAM and the system
always seemed rather sluggish to me. I blamed it on kde, but when I I tried
xfs, everything started to fly, the wait times decreased almost 30% (I measured
with kernel build: user and system times practically the same both under reiser
and xfs, but elapsed time with xfs about 30% less. Yes, the test in both cases
was on the newly created fs in the same partition). What's more important,
the system started to be more responsive. Konqueror and kmail for example
took at least 10 seconds to come up, now it's 4 or 5. The only drawback, the
fs with a lot of small files take much more space, my /usr is more than 100Mb
bigger than with reiser (total size is 1Gb).

Rgrds

On 10 September 2001 20:25, you wrote:
> On my 8.0 system, I'm using Reiser FS for all partitions except for /boot,
> which is ext2.  I've seen on the web page about how 8.1 will have support
> for ext3 (which I presume is new?) in the kernel.  And I've seen comments
> here which suggest that there are 8.1 beta testers on the list who are
> using it on their systems.  So the question is:  What's the deal with ext3?
> Good, bad?  How is it different, what are the advantages/disadvantages of
> using it?
>
>  --Dave

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Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Sep 10, 2001 at 05:17:22PM -0400, Michael Moore wrote:

> > Again, this would be an EXCELLENT idea.  With all the problems that are
> > caused by someone doing a kernel upgrade in MandrakeUpdate (and it's NOT
> > unreasonable for someone who hasn't heard about the problem to think that
> > if it's listed there, it must be upgradable from there - after all, that's
> > what MandrakeUpdate is there for...), they *really* should just configure
> > MandrakeUpdate to not do a kernel.
> >
> > Does anyone from Mandrake read this list? :-)
> >
> Both Vincent and I read it, and we have requested such a change.  Whether it 
> actually gets done is up to the developers of MandrakeUpdate.

It looks like rpmdrake will silently ignore kernel* if it encounters
in updates (for 8.1).  Possibly for 8.2 we may have additional
features that show kernel updates but disallow updating unless you go
through a rigorous 5 minute Q&A session and dialog with rpmdrake.  =)

> And don't blame me--I suggested the kernel be named.
> 
> kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.dont.use.update.on.this.or.get.ridiculed.and.die.i586.rpm
> 
> But then folks don't read package names either, so for the sake of 
> professional appearance it was left off.

I liked that filename, but alas...

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RE: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread David Guntner

Franki grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> 
> Why not just set Mandrake update to popup a kernel and alsa warning and not
> upgrade if the package starts with "kernel..."  or "alsa" that shouldn't
> be that hard at all...

Alsa should not be upgraded via MandrakeUpdate, either??

(No, I haven't done that, and I don't think there's an update available 
right now, but I found that to be curious)

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Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread Jason Van Patten

At Mon Sep 10 19:27:50 2001, civileme wrote:
> 
> Reiser -- Fastest in our benchmarks.  Still crashes or slows IO intolerably on
>   nfs after a day or two of heavy use.  Stability problems exist with

I thought this was supposed to be addressed in 2.4.8 or later.  Not so?

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Re: [expert] Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???

2001-09-10 Thread Mike Leone

mplayer, eh? Can it do STREAMING .ASF, for all those sites that only stream
Windows Media Player format? I don't mean download a .ASF file, and then
play it when it's completely transferred; I mean real-time streaming (like
we can with RealPlayer)?

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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???


Strangely enough, I got mplayer to play wmv files,
but then in the terminal window it tells me:
"asf format detected" so maybe there are more
than one kind of wmv files?

On Monday 10 September 2001 12:15 am, so spoke Mark:
> Can windows media files such as .wmv be viewed in Linux other than
> porting the ms media player across.  I really don't have any other need
> for windows products bar this one and don not wish to install windows at
> all.  I can't seem to find any linux program that plays these files OR
> is there a way of converting the .wmv to a readable file such as mpg
>
> thanx
>
> Mark


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Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread civileme

On Monday 10 September 2001 12:25, David Guntner wrote:
> On my 8.0 system, I'm using Reiser FS for all partitions except for /boot,
> which is ext2.  I've seen on the web page about how 8.1 will have support
> for ext3 (which I presume is new?) in the kernel.  And I've seen comments
> here which suggest that there are 8.1 beta testers on the list who are
> using it on their systems.  So the question is:  What's the deal with ext3?
> Good, bad?  How is it different, what are the advantages/disadvantages of
> using it?
>
>  --Dave


Actually

JFS  --  So far, failing some important tests, but we have hope, abd we
are in direct contact with the team.

XFS --  We are throwing everything at it now  We have had really SUPER
cooperation from SGI.  So far, it has endured more punishment 
than any of the others without complaint.  We are hammering it
because it was included late (not even in beta 3).

ext3 --  Backwards compatible/convertible with ext2 and the journal for
   / now plays back on boot.  Solid, and does not interfere with
   nfs, but slower than everything else except JFS and also higher
   initial overhead.

Reiser -- Fastest in our benchmarks.  Still crashes or slows IO intolerably on
  nfs after a day or two of heavy use.  Stability problems exist with
  that default mount even yet, so we are defaulting to -notail mounts
  which are the only ones suitable fro mounting / or /boot.  Nfs is
  what crashes, though.  High speed large transfers across nfs no
  longer corrupt Reiser.

Apparently all will be in 8.1 though some may be labeled experimental (which 
may mean we broke something testing it, or that we don't think we tested 
enough).

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RE: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread Franki

I was under the impression that for sheer performance you can't beat
reiserfs

if you want nfs then don't use it... but for nearly anything else, it seems
fine...

I don't use anything else nowdays...


rgds

Frank

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Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 12:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?


On Monday 10 September 2001 5:25 pm, you wrote:
> On my 8.0 system, I'm using Reiser FS for all partitions except for /boot,
> which is ext2.  I've seen on the web page about how 8.1 will have support
> for ext3 (which I presume is new?) in the kernel.  And I've seen comments
> here which suggest that there are 8.1 beta testers on the list who are
> using it on their systems.  So the question is:  What's the deal with
ext3?
> Good, bad?  How is it different, what are the advantages/disadvantages of
> using it?

Ive seen benchmarks which suggest it is slower than reiserfs generally. Its
main advantage is that you can convert existing ext2 partitions to ext3
without reformatting them (not relevant in your case i believe). Ive also
read that some apps that make bad assumptions about how filesystems work
(namely qmail and i think NFS) have some issues with reiser. Ive personnally
used reiser for about a year and bit and it has served me very well, so if
you are happy i cant reccomend a change, but im sure there are many more
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RE: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread Franki

besides, I wouldn't want to have to type that into an console either,,, to
many chances for typos :-)

kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.dont.use.update.on.this.or.get.ridiculed.and.die.i586.r
pm

Why not just set Mandrake update to popup a kernel and alsa warning and not
upgrade if the package starts with "kernel..."  or "alsa" that shouldn't
be that hard at all...

even if it still downloaded it, but was not setup to upgrade if the packages
start with that

rgds

Frank

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Guntner
Subject: Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade


On Monday 10 September 2001 10:59, David Guntner wrote:
> Praedor grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > Couldn't MandrakeUpdate simply be modified to NOT display kernels?
> > Prevent the problem from showing up at all in the app and confusing
> > people:
> >
> > "Well, the kernel was there in the MandrakeUpdate window so I updated
it.
> > Why did it show up in the window if you are not supposed to update it
> > this way?"
>
> Again, this would be an EXCELLENT idea.  With all the problems that are
> caused by someone doing a kernel upgrade in MandrakeUpdate (and it's NOT
> unreasonable for someone who hasn't heard about the problem to think that
> if it's listed there, it must be upgradable from there - after all, that's
> what MandrakeUpdate is there for...), they *really* should just configure
> MandrakeUpdate to not do a kernel.
>
> Does anyone from Mandrake read this list? :-)
>
>  --Dave
Both Vincent and I read it, and we have requested such a change.  Whether it
actually gets done is up to the developers of MandrakeUpdate.

Civileme

And don't blame me--I suggested the kernel be named.

kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.dont.use.update.on.this.or.get.ridiculed.and.die.i586.r
pm

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Re: Fwd: Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread Sergio P.Korlowsky

On Monday 10 September 2001 16:08, you wrote:
> >>--  Forwarded Message  --
>
> Subject: Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:50:37 -0700
> From: "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > On Sunday 09 September 2001 23:52, David Guntner wrote:
> > > I'll see what happens on this next go around.  I goofed on something
> > > (d'oh!) and am reinstalling again.  But while I had it up the last
> > > time, I did the "rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.rpm" to install the new
> > > kernel, and a reboot worked (I may still recompile from the source code
> > > once I've got everything in place).  Although I got a message about
> > > supermount not being supported by the kernel.  I have no idea what
> > > gives at this point, hopefully it will turn out to be something simple
> > > - maybe even a kernel compile will be able to add it properly. :-)
> >
> > Sorry, no.
> >
> > Supermount was removed at kernel 2.4.6 because it wasn't working
> > satisfactorily.  You would need the patch we used.
> >
> > 2.4.8-18mdk saw its return (read-only, for root only), snd beta 3 of 8.1
> > has itr working well.
>
> Thanks for the info.  From further reading, I found out about that.  So I'm
> trying to get autofs working, and it's not.
>
> My /etc/auto.master file has this in it:
>
> /mnt/cdrom/etc/auto.cdrom
>
> and my /etc/auto.cdrom file has this:
>
> cdrom -fstype=iso9660,ro  :/dev/cdrom
>
> I've even tried using:
> cd-fstype=iso9660,ro  :/dev/hdc
>
> to exactly match what's in the example in the man page(s).  I started it
> up, and got no error messages, but trying to access /mnt/cdrom just give me
> empty directory listing (for the directory where the mount is *supposed* to
> go), but not what's on the CD.  Any pointers?
>
>  --Dave

Is probably because it needs to be mounted, it is not mounting at boot...
if you wanted to be mounted at boot time, use linuxconf and change
that option on file system.

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[expert] Connection Sharing with IPtables

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Badran

I asked about connection sharing a short while ago, and got plenty of 
respones about doing it with ipchains. Todady i decided to make it work with 
ip tables, and found a very simple script for doing it that i thought others 
may be interested in. Is in the ip-masquerade-simple howto at linuxdoc.org.

Just thought this might be helpful to a few people.

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RE: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread Franki

even better, it should display the kernel, and if it is ticked, it should
download the RPM and
popup a message with instructions on what to do,, (ie not install it... just
save it somewhere like /var/cache/grpmi)

The kernel needs to show up there because many would not know to install the
new kernel for security reasons if it didn't show up.


rgds

Frank



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Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 9:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Couldn't MandrakeUpdate simply be modified to NOT display kernels?  Prevent
the problem from showing up at all in the app and confusing people:

"Well, the kernel was there in the MandrakeUpdate window so I updated it.
Why did it show up in the window if you are not supposed to update it this
way?"

On Monday 10 September 2001 07:39 am, you wrote:
> On Sunday 09 September 2001 07:42 pm, David Guntner escribió:
> > Brian Schroeder grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > > Maybe:  Could the folks at Mandrake modify the MandrakeUpdate
> > > program to print out some wise words of advise, instead of doing
> > > what is asked, whenever someone tries to upgrade the kernel?
> >
> > THAT would be an extremely helpful thing for them to do.  Judging
> > from the reactions that I've seen here, I'm obviously not the first
> > person to get bitten by this problem.
>
> If you search the cooker ML archive, they were discussing this just
> a week ago.  I don't remember if any consensus was reached.





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Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread s

On Monday 10 September 2001 04:17 pm,  civileme wrote:
>
> And don't blame me--I suggested the kernel be named.
> kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.dont.use.update.on.this.or.get.ridiculed.and.die.i586.
>rpm
>

lol!

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Re: [expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Badran

On Monday 10 September 2001 5:25 pm, you wrote:
> On my 8.0 system, I'm using Reiser FS for all partitions except for /boot,
> which is ext2.  I've seen on the web page about how 8.1 will have support
> for ext3 (which I presume is new?) in the kernel.  And I've seen comments
> here which suggest that there are 8.1 beta testers on the list who are
> using it on their systems.  So the question is:  What's the deal with ext3?
> Good, bad?  How is it different, what are the advantages/disadvantages of
> using it?

Ive seen benchmarks which suggest it is slower than reiserfs generally. Its 
main advantage is that you can convert existing ext2 partitions to ext3 
without reformatting them (not relevant in your case i believe). Ive also 
read that some apps that make bad assumptions about how filesystems work 
(namely qmail and i think NFS) have some issues with reiser. Ive personnally 
used reiser for about a year and bit and it has served me very well, so if 
you are happy i cant reccomend a change, but im sure there are many more 
advantages/disadvantages between the two which may swing you desision.




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[expert] Partition table modification at boot, ML 8.0

2001-09-10 Thread Tudor Florea

Hello,

I'm having a very anoying problem since I've upgraded
Linux Mandrake 7.2 to 8.0 on two computers. 

The first computer has a hard disk of aprox. 5 GB,
four primary partitions: the first two are NTFS, the
third is the Linux system partition, and another Linux
swap partition
The active partition is the linux one which contains
lilo.
After upgrading from Mandrake 7.2 to 8.0 I noticed
that NT doesn't see the second partition. The reason
is that a linux component (probably lilo) had changed
the partition type into 17 (hidden HPFS/NTFS).
I tried to change it back to 7 (NTFS) but when I've
booted NT, the partition it's again hidden.

On the second box, HDD 20GB, the mandrake 8.0 upgrade
modified the partition table worst than on the first
one.

The fdisk -V /dev/hda reports an amount of sectors
unallocated. The cfdisk sees two segments of free
space on the disk.

I forget to mention that I didn't modified the
partition table during the upgrade, on neither
computer.

Did someone had this problem already ?   

Thanks,
Tudor.

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[expert] Reiser FS or ext3?

2001-09-10 Thread David Guntner

On my 8.0 system, I'm using Reiser FS for all partitions except for /boot, 
which is ext2.  I've seen on the web page about how 8.1 will have support 
for ext3 (which I presume is new?) in the kernel.  And I've seen comments 
here which suggest that there are 8.1 beta testers on the list who are 
using it on their systems.  So the question is:  What's the deal with ext3? 
Good, bad?  How is it different, what are the advantages/disadvantages of 
using it?

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Re: [expert] How can I improve the fonts on Konqueror

2001-09-10 Thread Oscar

El Lun 10 Sep 2001 10:22, escribiste:
> I get very poor fonts in Konqueror. In fact I cannot
> even read the messages on this news group. I'm using
> Netscape. Can anyone offer some suggestions?

What is exactly the problem? Ugly fonts? Good fonts but bad font display? 
Only in Konqueror? 
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Re: [expert] Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???

2001-09-10 Thread Expert

Strangely enough, I got mplayer to play wmv files,
but then in the terminal window it tells me:
"asf format detected" so maybe there are more
than one kind of wmv files?

On Monday 10 September 2001 12:15 am, so spoke Mark:
> Can windows media files such as .wmv be viewed in Linux other than
> porting the ms media player across.  I really don't have any other need
> for windows products bar this one and don not wish to install windows at
> all.  I can't seem to find any linux program that plays these files OR
> is there a way of converting the .wmv to a readable file such as mpg
>
> thanx
>
> Mark


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Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread David Guntner

civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> On Monday 10 September 2001 10:59, David Guntner wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone from Mandrake read this list? :-)
> 
> Both Vincent and I read it, and we have requested such a change.  Whether it 
> actually gets done is up to the developers of MandrakeUpdate.

Oh, I didn't notice the @mandrakesoft.com in your address. :-)

> And don't blame me--I suggested the kernel be named.
> 
> kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.dont.use.update.on.this.or.get.ridiculed.and.die.i586.rpm

LOL!

> But then folks don't read package names either, so for the sake of 
> professional appearance it was left off.

Probably true for most people.  But *I* certainly would have noticed a name 
like that :-)

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Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread civileme

On Monday 10 September 2001 10:59, David Guntner wrote:
> Praedor grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > Couldn't MandrakeUpdate simply be modified to NOT display kernels? 
> > Prevent the problem from showing up at all in the app and confusing
> > people:
> >
> > "Well, the kernel was there in the MandrakeUpdate window so I updated it.
> > Why did it show up in the window if you are not supposed to update it
> > this way?"
>
> Again, this would be an EXCELLENT idea.  With all the problems that are
> caused by someone doing a kernel upgrade in MandrakeUpdate (and it's NOT
> unreasonable for someone who hasn't heard about the problem to think that
> if it's listed there, it must be upgradable from there - after all, that's
> what MandrakeUpdate is there for...), they *really* should just configure
> MandrakeUpdate to not do a kernel.
>
> Does anyone from Mandrake read this list? :-)
>
>  --Dave
Both Vincent and I read it, and we have requested such a change.  Whether it 
actually gets done is up to the developers of MandrakeUpdate.

Civileme

And don't blame me--I suggested the kernel be named.

kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.dont.use.update.on.this.or.get.ridiculed.and.die.i586.rpm

But then folks don't read package names either, so for the sake of 
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Fwd: Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread civileme



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Subject: Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:50:37 -0700
From: "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On Sunday 09 September 2001 23:52, David Guntner wrote:
> > I'll see what happens on this next go around.  I goofed on something
> > (d'oh!) and am reinstalling again.  But while I had it up the last time,
> > I did the "rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.rpm" to install the new kernel,
> > and a reboot worked (I may still recompile from the source code once I've
> > got everything in place).  Although I got a message about supermount not
> > being supported by the kernel.  I have no idea what gives at this point,
> > hopefully it will turn out to be something simple - maybe even a kernel
> > compile will be able to add it properly. :-)
>
> Sorry, no.
>
> Supermount was removed at kernel 2.4.6 because it wasn't working
> satisfactorily.  You would need the patch we used.
>
> 2.4.8-18mdk saw its return (read-only, for root only), snd beta 3 of 8.1
> has itr working well.

Thanks for the info.  From further reading, I found out about that.  So I'm
trying to get autofs working, and it's not.

My /etc/auto.master file has this in it:

/mnt/cdrom  /etc/auto.cdrom

and my /etc/auto.cdrom file has this:

cdrom   -fstype=iso9660,ro  :/dev/cdrom

I've even tried using:
cd  -fstype=iso9660,ro  :/dev/hdc

to exactly match what's in the example in the man page(s).  I started it
up, and got no error messages, but trying to access /mnt/cdrom just give me
empty directory listing (for the directory where the mount is *supposed* to
go), but not what's on the CD.  Any pointers?

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Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread David Guntner

Praedor grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> Couldn't MandrakeUpdate simply be modified to NOT display kernels?  Prevent 
> the problem from showing up at all in the app and confusing people:
> 
> "Well, the kernel was there in the MandrakeUpdate window so I updated it.  
> Why did it show up in the window if you are not supposed to update it this 
> way?"

Again, this would be an EXCELLENT idea.  With all the problems that are 
caused by someone doing a kernel upgrade in MandrakeUpdate (and it's NOT 
unreasonable for someone who hasn't heard about the problem to think that 
if it's listed there, it must be upgradable from there - after all, that's 
what MandrakeUpdate is there for...), they *really* should just configure 
MandrakeUpdate to not do a kernel.

Does anyone from Mandrake read this list? :-)

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[expert] /var/run permissions

2001-09-10 Thread Pierre Fortin

Hi,

Still running some LM7.2 systems and have had some occasions where X would not
start.

LM7.2 comes with XFree86 v3.3.6 and v4.0.1; but shortly after installing 7.2,
XFree86 v4.0.3 came out and I installed that manually...  

4.0.3 changed the ownership of xfs to xfs.xfs...  however, xfs tries to write
xfs.pid into /var/run which is impossible with:
drwxr-xr-x5 root root 4096 Sep 10 10:48 /var/run/ 
 ^  ^
So, I changed /var/run to:
drwxrwxrwx5 root root 4096 Sep 10 10:48 /var/run/ 
since I could not get an answer at the time.

On occasion, the permissions of /var/run would get magically changed back to 755
causing X to fail to start because there was no xfs server, in turn because xfs
could not write its PID file to /var/run...  Finally tracked this down to
linuxconf which returns the /var/run permissions to 755:
> # netconf --status
> List of things required to activate current configuration
>   Changing permissions  of file /var/run from 40777 to 40755

So  gotta ask again...  does anyone know the correct way to fix this...? 
Either /var/run needs to allow non-root processes, linuxconf should butt out, or
xfs needs to write xfs.pid elsewhere...?  Other...?

Thanks,
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Re: [expert] power loss and now no X

2001-09-10 Thread Pierre Fortin

"Sheldon E. Newhouse" wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  My system lost power last night, and now I can't get X to run. Says
> something like "can't find fixed fonts."
> 
> Is there a simple fix, or do I have to reinstall X again?

Restart the xfs server with:   service xfs start



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RE: [expert] power loss and now no X

2001-09-10 Thread Jose M. Sanchez


"service xfs start"

Then start Xwindows...

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|
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|Hello,
| My system lost power last night, and now I can't get X to 
|run. Says something like "can't find fixed fonts."
|
|Is there a simple fix, or do I have to reinstall X again?
|
|TIA,
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[expert] power loss and now no X

2001-09-10 Thread Sheldon E. Newhouse

Hello,
 My system lost power last night, and now I can't get X to run. Says
something like "can't find fixed fonts."

Is there a simple fix, or do I have to reinstall X again?

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Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread Praedor

Couldn't MandrakeUpdate simply be modified to NOT display kernels?  Prevent 
the problem from showing up at all in the app and confusing people:

"Well, the kernel was there in the MandrakeUpdate window so I updated it.  
Why did it show up in the window if you are not supposed to update it this 
way?"

On Monday 10 September 2001 07:39 am, you wrote:
> On Sunday 09 September 2001 07:42 pm, David Guntner escribió:
> > Brian Schroeder grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > > Maybe:  Could the folks at Mandrake modify the MandrakeUpdate
> > > program to print out some wise words of advise, instead of doing
> > > what is asked, whenever someone tries to upgrade the kernel?
> >
> > THAT would be an extremely helpful thing for them to do.  Judging
> > from the reactions that I've seen here, I'm obviously not the first
> > person to get bitten by this problem.
>
> If you search the cooker ML archive, they were discussing this just
> a week ago.  I don't remember if any consensus was reached.



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Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sunday 09 September 2001 07:42 pm, David Guntner escribió:
> Brian Schroeder grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > Maybe:  Could the folks at Mandrake modify the MandrakeUpdate
> > program to print out some wise words of advise, instead of doing
> > what is asked, whenever someone tries to upgrade the kernel?
>
> THAT would be an extremely helpful thing for them to do.  Judging
> from the reactions that I've seen here, I'm obviously not the first
> person to get bitten by this problem.

If you search the cooker ML archive, they were discussing this just 
a week ago.  I don't remember if any consensus was reached.
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Re: [expert] httpd as root

2001-09-10 Thread etharp

changing the httpd user to root is a BAD Idea, it wo0uld give super-user 
privlidges to processes run as a remote web server connected to your box. 
don't do it. veery bad luck, much less opening your wallet to every script 
kiddie in the internet.

On Sunday 09 September 2001 23:21, Mulus wrote:
> has anyone had any problem with changing user directive in
> /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf to user and group root, in Mandrake 8.0 ?
> httpd service can not start if I change the directive to user/group
> root.
> any help would be appreciated.


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Re: [expert] Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???

2001-09-10 Thread civileme

On Monday 10 September 2001 01:15, Mark wrote:
> Can windows media files such as .wmv be viewed in Linux other than
> porting the ms media player across.  I really don't have any other need
> for windows products bar this one and don not wish to install windows at
> all.  I can't seem to find any linux program that plays these files OR
> is there a way of converting the .wmv to a readable file such as mpg
>
> thanx
>
> Mark

Well, the scheme is encryption of the media and making a translator would be 
breaking encryption of (possibly) copyrighted material.  This is a violation 
of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act which seems to fly in the face of many 
court decisions regarding fair use of copyrighted material.

The DMCA would most likely be used to fine or imprison anyone who broke the 
encryption scheme (to protect copyrighted material) to allow a conversion, so 
if Microsoft doesn't do it, no one else legally can do it either.

The same applies to the rather mediocre quality movies known as .asf files, 
but in that case Microsoft has patented them despite the prior art of mpeg.

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Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade

2001-09-10 Thread civileme

On Sunday 09 September 2001 23:52, David Guntner wrote:
> Dan Hensley grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > On Sun, 2001-09-09 at 15:06, David Guntner wrote:
> >
> > What I ended up doing was copying the kernel from the rescue floppy
> > (actually the MDK8.0 install floppy) onto /boot, then pointing lilo.conf
> > to that kernel.  From there I was able to boot up enough to be able to
> > compile 2.4.9 from source (I had previously downloaded it).  I compiled
> > Reiserfs into the kernel (as opposed to as a module, which is what the
> > Mandrake kernel RPMs do).  From there I was mostly back up and running.
> >
> > Here's a quick synopsis (from memory, so it may not be perfect).
> >
> > 1.  Boot the MDK 8.0 installation floppy, hit F1 and boot the "rescue"
> > option.
> > 2.  Mount your /boot and /etc partitions (use symbolic links as
> > necessary).
> > 3.  Copy the kernel from the floppy onto your HD and update lilo.
> > 4.  Reboot--you should be able to at least boot up, but X may or may not
> > start.
>
> I didn't see your message until it was too late. :-)  But I'll keep it in
> mind, should there be a Next Time.  (Isn't there *always*? :)
>
> > > > I'm still having the problem with being unable to generate a ramdisk
> > > > using my 2.4.9 kernel (sounds like it's the same problem you have). 
> > > > If you find a resolution to that, I'd be very interested in hearing
> > > > about it.  I haven't had time to try to track it down.
> > >
> > > You're talking about the initrd.img file, or something else?
> >
> > That's what I'm talking about.  I can't generate one from my current
> > kernel that I compiled.  It complains about not finding the reiserfs
> > modules, even though I don't have reiserfs compiled as a module.  It
> > must be looking for some other file left over from a MDK kernel RPM, but
> > I haven't had time to figure it out yet.
>
> I'll see what happens on this next go around.  I goofed on something
> (d'oh!) and am reinstalling again.  But while I had it up the last time, I
> did the "rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.rpm" to install the new kernel, and
> a reboot worked (I may still recompile from the source code once I've got
> everything in place).  Although I got a message about supermount not being
> supported by the kernel.  I have no idea what gives at this point,
> hopefully it will turn out to be something simple - maybe even a kernel
> compile will be able to add it properly. :-)  After the compile, should I
> do one, I'll see what a mkinitrd command turns up.
>
>   --Dave


Sorry, no.

Supermount was removed at kernel 2.4.6 because it wasn't working 
satisfactorily.  You would need the patch we used.

2.4.8-18mdk saw its return (read-only, for root only), snd beta 3 of 8.1 has 
itr working well.

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Re: [expert] Documentation for rpm-python/rpmmodule?

2001-09-10 Thread civileme

On Sunday 09 September 2001 19:36, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Hello, all.
>
> A search through Google doesn't show any.
>
> Thanks.


Use the source code.  Also you can get some documentation in a roundabout way 
from downloading rpmlint and reading that python source.  It is wonderful for 
examples of use of rpm-python.

It would be nice if someone who uses python and who has time writes 
something, but it hasn't happened yet, so we are stuck with reading the C 
source of the modules.

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[expert] How can I improve the fonts on Konqueror

2001-09-10 Thread Gary Bond

I get very poor fonts in Konqueror. In fact I cannot
even read the messages on this news group. I'm using
Netscape. Can anyone offer some suggestions?

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Re: [expert] Which Packages?

2001-09-10 Thread Gregor Maier

Just a short question about this.
If I use original (kernel.org) kernel sources and then build a new kernel
should / must I copy the header files from KERNEL-TREE/include/linux to the
appropriate location (/usr/include/linux)

Gregor

On 09-Sep-2001 civileme wrote:
> On Sunday 09 September 2001 08:02, Dennis Myhand wrote:
>> A brief question to the list.  I just downloaded the 2.4.8 kernel,
>> source, header, and documentation packages from rpmfind.net, after
>> seeing that the 2.4.7 update was listed in my security update list.  I
>> have been reading the notes about NOT using Mandrake update and to do it
>> manually.  My question is, which packages and in what order do I install
>> them?  Thanks, Dennis in Victoria
> 
> 
> If you have a plain vanilla desktop system without multiple CPUs and are not 
> using a server, then the kernel-headers and
> 
> kerbel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.i586.rpm
> 
> Should be sufficient., though it is good policy to download and install 
> kernel-source..
>   
> 
> If your system is a bit more complicated, you will need a different set.  So 
> if it is complicated, please  tell the list what it is and someone will make 
> a recommendation.
> 
> Civileme
> 

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