Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?

2002-01-24 Thread Oscar

Try bcast

El jue, 24-01-2002 a las 00:12, D. R. Evans escribió:
 This is an embarrassingly simple question to ask on an expert list, but 
 perusing the Web and archived lists for half an hour didn't turn up 
 anything very promising, so I figured that I'd just embarrass myself 
 and ask anyway.
 
 What program do people recommend for recording audio? Specifically, if 
 I am playing a RealAudio file through RealPlayer, I would like to 
 record the audio in a format that I can later play back.
 
 None of the programs that is installed by default in MDK 8.1 seems to 
 perform this function. (I thought that kmix did; but there's no Save 
 As... to allow me to tell it where to put any recorded audio; the help 
 talks about recording, but doesn't give any clue as to how to actually 
 perform the function.)
 
 Actually, while I'm here, I might as well state that what I would 
 _really_ like to do is to download the RealAudio file much more quickly 
 than real time (it's in an audio archive on the Web), then listen to it 
 later at my own convenience. As far as I can tell, though, RealNetworks 
 seem to be one of these companies that threatens to sue anyone who 
 makes such a program available :-(
 
   Doc Evans
 
 PS I tried a simple-minded rec, but then RealPlayer couldn't get 
 access to the audio device; presumably this is because rec doesn't go 
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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread Andrew George

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:36, Aleksey wrote:
 Sorry for muddying the waters with the script example, this problem is
 really is not a scripting one -- the only reason I mentioned it is that I
 only saw this problem before for my Python scripts.

I don't think this is a scripting thing either, I SUSPECT its a filesystem 
artifact
check this out 

[root@darkwing cache]# rm -rf f/
rm: cannot remove directory `f': Directory not empty
[root@darkwing cache]# cd f
[root@darkwing f]# ls
ls: www.freezez-burn.org_images_dcs-button.jpg:21156a00: No such file or 
directory
[root@darkwing f]# rm www.freezez-burn.org_images_dcs-button.jpg\:21156a00
rm: cannot remove `www.freezez-burn.org_images_dcs-button.jpg:21156a00': No 
such file or directory

I assume, that no-ones going to tell me this is a bug in ls or rm 

Personally I need to rebuild the box the disk is on anyway so I'm just gonna 
reformat the partition...if I wasn't, I'd be thinking seriously about a fsck 
right now.

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Re: [expert] Sound...what does it take?

2002-01-24 Thread H.McM

Hmm that is a problem. I always keep copies of the kernels released for this very 
reason. 

I was hoping there would be a .9 there this morning, but no such luck.



 Got the same problem with 17.8
 
 Interested to hear that 17.6 worked, but where can you get it now that
 17.8 is on the cooker mirrors? 
 
 Brian
 
 On Thu, 2002-01-24 at 09:27, H. McM wrote:
  Praedor
  
  I am curious to see if the 2.4.17.8 one works for you - I tried it earlier today 
and I get an error undefined symbol when it does a modprobe on boot. I forget the 
module now, but it was sound related. I've gone back to 17.6 (which so far hasnt 
given me any problems) until 17.9 comes out!
  
  




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Re: [expert] Tyan Mobo dual AMD

2002-01-24 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva

Hi, Grant.

It was almost exactly what I'd like to hear.  The drawbacks.

From which you pointed out, I'd like to hear more about item 4, 5 and 6.

Like, which 3D-graphic card worked with tyan? Why Adaptec is problematic
in Tyan mobo?  None IDE cdrom worked? That's really bad.

Thank you too Kayaturk.

This desired cluster is planned only to do computational
calculations, specially in parallel.  So we do not need much, however, at
least one node has to have any peripheral working well.


On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, J. Grant wrote:

 I would like to add something.

 Once you get it working its good, until then you will have problems,
 like what I had.

 1. Poor support from tyan.
 2. No APM support.
 3. Poor bios controls, and crazy cpu temp display (that defaults to 75C
 till you press an arrow key!)
 4. Poor AGP support, i had to change gfx cards in Linux.
 5. Poor SCSI support, Adaptec card that worked fine on other PC refused
 to work in this one.
 6. IDE CDROMS unable to work (3 tested)


 Now i have a working system, but until Tyan sort out there system and
 provide helpful support is it worth it?

 I'm happy with my system now, but it took too long to get to where I am
 now with a working system.

 JG

 kayaturk wrote:

  This board is extremely good when you use it with AMD XP processors.
  Also I'd like to mention that Thunder K7 is excellent board for server
  systems. I have both tiger and thunder. I can say that thunder is the
  best design every thing is onboard. (2 3Com NIC's onboard). But for
  performance they don't differ to much.
 
  Regards,
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[expert] A updated kdiff?

2002-01-24 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva


Hi,

I could find a updadted compatible version of kdiff to MDK 8.x.

Is there any other program (another diff graphic-frontend) to replace
kdiff instead?

Many thanks in advance.

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Re: [expert] Japanese input in KDE

2002-01-24 Thread Pablo Saratxaga

Kaixo!

On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 08:19:34PM +0900, J. Grant wrote:
 
 I now have a working Japanese envoiroment, i had to hack it up a little
 to get it working, perhaps there are some improvements that can be made.
 
 $ cat .i18n
 LC_TYPE=ja
 LANGUAGE=C
 LANG=ja_JP
 XIM=kinput2
 XIM_PROGRAM=kinput2
 XMODIFIERS=@im=kinput2
 
 if I export LC_ALL=ja that worked, but that was not an ideal solution, i
 wanted to keep my english time etc etc
 
 LC_CTYPE was always changed back from ja to en_GB:en when i got into X,
 i don not know where this was being set, eventually i just changed the

Strange, as you don't define any en_GB in the above .i18n file.
Maybe is KDE that does that ? What is the KDE language setting you choose?

 Well I have a working system now, well mozilla :) Advanced Editor does
 not work, well i suspect its the display of the text that is the
 problem.

With LC_CTYPE defined to a locale without japanese charset support it's
not surprizing.

 So thank you for the help along the way. You should be able to read this
 then.. does the expert list have the headers changed to us-ascii? we
 will see. UTF-8 is all I use now.

If you use UTF-8 for everything; then define your LC_* and LANG to en_GB.UTF-8


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Re: [expert] Is this the expected behavior of the KDE taskbar in Mandrake 8.1?

2002-01-24 Thread Randy Kramer

Eric,

Thanks for your response!  You're absolutely right!

And, another useful preference choice there is Group Similar Tasks.

I have started to create notes for these kind of things on Wikilearn (at
its temporary site), see
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/Kde221TaskbarProblems.  Others
are welcome to add or improve notes (and use the site for reference).

Randy Kramer

Eric McRae wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 10:22, Randy Kramer wrote:
  Question: On Mandrake 8.1, I see all the running applications (in the
  area to the right of the desktop) no matter which desktop I choose.  Is
  this the expected behavior under kde on Mandrake 8.1?

 I believe if you right click the taskbar and select Preferences you
 will get a new window to configure this.
 I think you want to select Taskbar then UNcheck show all windows.
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[expert] /etc is for miscellaneous files?

2002-01-24 Thread pesarif


Hello,

I read in the Linux Pocketbook that /etc is for miscellaneous files.
It's only for config files isn't it?  Does anyone know the significance of the name 
/etc (why not /config?)?

Thanks,
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Re: [expert] gcc 3.0

2002-01-24 Thread James

Praedor,
   I haven't used it myself, but a friend of mine (one of the original
members of 386 BSD development team at Berkley) has been trying it out. 
He said that for now anything built with it isn't compatible with programs
compiled with earlier versions of gcc.  In short he told me it's going to
draw a line in the sand that separtes linux binaries into two incompatible
worlds.  (His original reaction was a groan, rolled eyes and a head shake)
 He told me it works.  The binaries were fine, but a strong compatability
issue.


On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:44:12 -0700
Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How is gcc 3.0 these days?  Has its problems been corrected enough to
make it 
 a worthy compiler?
 
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Re: [expert] Configure NIC without an IP address

2002-01-24 Thread Mike Rambo

José J. Cintrón wrote:
 
 I need to configure a computer with 2 NICs one with an IP address and one
 without.  When I attempt to enable the NIC that will have no IP address I
 get an error message saying that there is no IP address assigned (or
 something along those lines).  Is there any way to accomplish this?
 
 TIA!
 
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No - or at least I wouldn't think so. Why do you want to do this? With
no protocol (TCP/IP or IPX etc) bound to the network card it is
non-functional anyway. What are you trying to accomplish?


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Re: [expert] Where to find kernel?

2002-01-24 Thread Joan Tur

Es Dimecres 23 Gener 2002 22:40, en H. McM va escriure:
 Need to go to a cooker download site. Most current is 2.4.17.8
Thanks.  Why has it been removed from rpmfind.net ??  8-?

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[expert] no route to host but ping

2002-01-24 Thread FL


Hi!

I have just set up a 8.1 server.
Quite everything works fine but I have a routing problem.

I can access the internet as a client.
I can ssh my box using a internal box
I can't acces my box using a external box.

This is not an hosts.allow or deny problem, I have checked the files.
I have disable Iptables and bastille for test purpose.

Here are the details :

1. I can ping x.x.111.50 from the outside 
2. I can't ssh, ftp or http, the services are active and running from inside.

3. I can't traceroute : it stops before the server

traceroute x.x.x.50, 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  x  4.821 ms  10.177 ms  20.359 ms
[...]
 9  x.x.133.18 (193.107.133.18)  15.964 ms !X *  21.853 ms !X

4. NMAP resulst on the host x.x.x.50

For port 22 (nmap -vv -p22)
Port   State   Service
22/tcp filteredssh

For port 21 (nmap -vv -p21)
Port   State   Service
21/tcp filteredftp

For port 80 (nmap -vv -p80)
Port   State   Service
80/tcp openhttp

I can telnet this port but :

Connected to [...]
Escape character is '^]'.
GET /
Connection closed by foreign host.


The net admin told me, everything is ok, and that it should be a internal 
problem in my box... Any idea ?

Thanks

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Re: [expert] installing mandrake 8.1

2002-01-24 Thread FL

Le Mardi 22 Janvier 2002 14:50, Lars Roland Kristiansen a écrit :
 Can i install mandrake 8.1 on 2 ide disks with software raid 1. so if one
 of the 2 disks is going dead then the other one takes over without any
 human interaction

I have just done it yesterday, with 2 SCSI drives.
During partition stage do exactely the same partitions on the both drives.
Chage type of each partition, and choose Linux RAID
A popup came and you can choose RAID 1 and create an device mdx
Add the same partition on the other drive in this mdx

Do the same for each partition.

Francois



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Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?

2002-01-24 Thread Scott

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Nick Thompson wrote:
 What program do people recommend for recording audio? Specifically, if 
 I am playing a RealAudio file through RealPlayer, I would like to 
 record the audio in a format that I can later play back.

I am a dj at a commercial FM station in the US and use mpegrec to not only 
grab the line input but it can also be used if you want to record a stream 
from the net, say from XMMS.  It is command line driven, but the author 
wrote it on Mandrake so you should have no trouble.  You will need lame to 
record directly to mp3 format.

I hosted an 8 hour countdown show New Years Eve and used  mpegrec to 
record the entire show directly to mp3 format at 128k.  The file is close 
800mb and there are no drop outs, no skips, just a perfect 8 hour mp3 
file.

HTH,

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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:

 the scheme reported above (-rwxr--r--) is read as 'user - group - other'
 and since the following entries show that aleksey is both owner and group,
 root wouldn't be an issue.  I think I would go with previous posts that
 the executable itself is the problem?
 
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Re: [expert] Japanese input in KDE

2002-01-24 Thread J. Grant

Hello,

I now have a working Japanese envoiroment, i had to hack it up a little
to get it working, perhaps there are some improvements that can be made.

I followed these guides
http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=1420lang=en

and an english guide for japanese as a second language
http://www.math.wisc.edu/~stefanss/japanese/index.html

setting up KDE and creating the config files.

$ cat .i18n
LC_TYPE=ja
LANGUAGE=C
LANG=ja_JP
XIM=kinput2
XIM_PROGRAM=kinput2
XMODIFIERS=@im=kinput2


$ locale
LANG=ja_JP
LC_CTYPE=ja
LC_NUMERIC=en_GB
LC_TIME=en_GB
LC_COLLATE=en_GB
LC_MONETARY=en_GB
LC_MESSAGES=en_GB
LC_PAPER=ja_JP
LC_NAME=ja_JP
LC_ADDRESS=ja_JP
LC_TELEPHONE=ja_JP
LC_MEASUREMENT=ja_JP
LC_IDENTIFICATION=ja_JP
LC_ALL=


if I export LC_ALL=ja that worked, but that was not an ideal solution, i
wanted to keep my english time etc etc

LC_CTYPE was always changed back from ja to en_GB:en when i got into X,
i don not know where this was being set, eventually i just changed the
system wide config as below

$ cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
SYSFONT=lat0-sun16
LC_CTYPE=ja
LC_MONETARY=en_GB
LANGUAGE=C
LC_TIME=en_GB
LC_NUMERIC=en_GB
LC_COLLATE=en_GB
LC_MESSAGES=en_GB
LANG=ja_JP
SYSFONTACM=iso15

anyone know where LC_CTYPE gets set? after my .i18n set to ja something
changed it back!


Well I have a working system now, well mozilla :) Advanced Editor does
not work, well i suspect its the display of the text that is the
problem. Perhaps there will be another installment of this email... some
day.. or maybe mdk8.2 is going to be the thing for the job? I hope.

So thank you for the help along the way. You should be able to read this
then.. does the expert list have the headers changed to us-ascii? we
will see. UTF-8 is all I use now.


どもありがとございます

JG



James Sparenberg wrote:

Don't know if this helps, but while trying to make Mandrake7.0 
speak
Korean I ran across this site.  The guy is knee deep in
internationalizing linux to speak Japanese.
   
http://tlug.linux.or.jp/craigoda/writings/linux-nihongo/
   
James
   
PS to get some of the Korean working I borrowed heavily from a
couple of Korean distro's (download source and compile locally)
maybe
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Re: [expert] Configure NIC without an IP address

2002-01-24 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:44:37 -0500
Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 José J. Cintrón wrote:
  
  I need to configure a computer with 2 NICs one with an IP address and
one  without.  When I attempt to enable the NIC that will have no IP
address I  get an error message saying that there is no IP address
assigned (or  something along those lines).  Is there any way to
accomplish this? 
 No - or at least I wouldn't think so. Why do you want to do this? With
 no protocol (TCP/IP or IPX etc) bound to the network card it is
 non-functional anyway. What are you trying to accomplish?

I wonder if he wants to setup a bridge...?  Other than possibly wanting to
use the non-protocol'ed i/f for a sniffer-only...

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/BRIDGE-STP-HOWTO/index.html

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Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC

2002-01-24 Thread Molotov


 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC


  If I understand correctly, you have a Netgear card that uses the tulip.o
  driver and it's having trouble (if this is not true, then feel free to
  ignore the rest of the message).  I don't have the machine in front of
  me right now, but if I remember correctly, the tulip.o driver would not
  load unless I loaded pci-scan.o first.
 
  insmod pci-scan
  insmod tulip
 
  was what I did.
 Yes, this is what I've read about on http://www.scyld.com
 But as you say, there is no pci-scan module included with Mdk, and I've
seen
 my card working properly without it.

 Anyway, it should be a good idea to include it with the next Mandrake.

 I think I may have some kind of problem with my motherboard's Via chipset
 support, which could explain bad detection of my cards. I'll post a
solution
 here, if I can find one.
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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread Aleksey


 If strace and ldd are of no help, there's one other trick I sometimes use
 with prgressively more info to look through:

   strings prog | grep ^/ | less
   strings prog | grep / | less
   strings prog | less

 In the last one, typing the chars /, \, /, Return  tells less to
 search for a /, then just press n to keep finding the next one...
 Shift+n to search backwards...

 With any luck, you may see some other file listed that the program can't
 find...

That's it! 'strings prog | grep ^/ | less' shows some paths to the other 
components that don't make sense (absolute paths instead of relative), so of 
course those files can't be found!

I'll just have to get the source and work with it.

Thank you Pierre, and thank you all - kwan, Mike, Andrew, Ronald and Thomas.

Best regards,

Aleksey


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Re: [expert] Sound...what does it take?

2002-01-24 Thread Severian Thales

I'm still in kernel hell.  The stock 2.4.8 (8.1)
kernel doesn't work for me.  The pcmcia is screwed (It
doesn't properly deal with my old, reliable 3Com 589
pcmcia card) and sound is dead...hence trying to build
a functional kernel.  I HAD a perfectly fine 2.4.13
kernel for a while but then accidently trashed my
system and had to reinstall.  Since then, I'm in hell.

  To answer your question, the 2.4.17.8 kernel didn't
work any better than 17.7 did for me.  I have NEVER
had this kind of trouble with building kernels before.
 I've built dozens before this.

  I just reinstalled the stock 2.4.8 kernel and then
manually built the pcmcia-cs-3.1.31 source and
installed that.  It crapped on me in a totally f*cked
way.  It recognizes my card, loads the correct module
and even gives me an IP address (DHCP) but I cannot
get out of my box.  If I ping some URL address, its IP
address comes up like a normal ping (so the address is
being resolved) but nothing goes out or comes back. 
It times out.
  
  I am totally lost now.  I get an IP via DHCP, I can
resolve addresses but I cannot connect or ping
anything outside my box.  GAH!!!  I am about to try
Sorceror linux to see if that works better on this
laptop...the problem being I cannot get out of this
box to the net which is absolutely required at this
point to try Sorceror.  I cannot even get out to try
to simply install the prebuilt 2.4.17.8 kernel.

  Basically, I have a useless battery drainer on my
desk right now.  Any ideas anyone?

--- H. McM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Praedor
 
 I am curious to see if the 2.4.17.8 one works for
 you - I tried it earlier today and I get an error
 undefined symbol when it does a modprobe on boot.
 I forget the module now, but it was sound related.
 I've gone back to 17.6 (which so far hasnt given me
 any problems) until 17.9 comes out!
 
 
  
  I still don't have sound.  I am in the midst of
 building kernel-2.4.17.8, the 
  replacement for the broken 17.6 and 17.7 kernels,
 I presume, since neither of 
  the former are any longer available.  I got the
 17.8 kernel directly from 
  Mandrake.  I hope THIS one will work with my
 pcmcia network card and sound 
  card...
  
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Re: [expert] Sound...what does it take?

2002-01-24 Thread Charlie Bebber


Damn man, sounds like you're hating life right about now (but I think
we've all been there at some point in time).

Did you ever get your sound working?  And as far as your network
problems go, if you do a 'netstat -rn', do you have a default gateway
assigned?  And I'd say stay far away from the Mandrake pcmcia packages.
If you've got any Red Hat cds available, I'd suggest installing theirs
(that's what I ended up having to do yesterday when I'd completely run
out of ideas to get my flash card reader to work in a custom built
kernel).

Did you ever download the legit kernel source?  And what do you have in
your /etc/modules.conf?  Are any of those entries correct for the
hardware you have?

-Charlie

Severian Thales said:
 I'm still in kernel hell.  The stock 2.4.8 (8.1)
 kernel doesn't work for me.  The pcmcia is screwed (It
 doesn't properly deal with my old, reliable 3Com 589
 pcmcia card) and sound is dead...hence trying to build
 a functional kernel.  I HAD a perfectly fine 2.4.13
 kernel for a while but then accidently trashed my
 system and had to reinstall.  Since then, I'm in hell.

  To answer your question, the 2.4.17.8 kernel didn't
 work any better than 17.7 did for me.  I have NEVER
 had this kind of trouble with building kernels before.
 I've built dozens before this.

  I just reinstalled the stock 2.4.8 kernel and then
 manually built the pcmcia-cs-3.1.31 source and
 installed that.  It crapped on me in a totally f*cked
 way.  It recognizes my card, loads the correct module
 and even gives me an IP address (DHCP) but I cannot
 get out of my box.  If I ping some URL address, its IP
 address comes up like a normal ping (so the address is
 being resolved) but nothing goes out or comes back.
 It times out.

  I am totally lost now.  I get an IP via DHCP, I can
 resolve addresses but I cannot connect or ping
 anything outside my box.  GAH!!!  I am about to try
 Sorceror linux to see if that works better on this
 laptop...the problem being I cannot get out of this
 box to the net which is absolutely required at this
 point to try Sorceror.  I cannot even get out to try
 to simply install the prebuilt 2.4.17.8 kernel.

  Basically, I have a useless battery drainer on my
 desk right now.  Any ideas anyone?

 --- H. McM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Praedor

 I am curious to see if the 2.4.17.8 one works for
 you - I tried it earlier today and I get an error
 undefined symbol when it does a modprobe on boot.
 I forget the module now, but it was sound related.
 I've gone back to 17.6 (which so far hasnt given me
 any problems) until 17.9 comes out!


 
  I still don't have sound.  I am in the midst of
 building kernel-2.4.17.8, the
  replacement for the broken 17.6 and 17.7 kernels,
 I presume, since neither of
  the former are any longer available.  I got the
 17.8 kernel directly from
  Mandrake.  I hope THIS one will work with my
 pcmcia network card and sound
  card...
 
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Re: [expert] Sound...what does it take?

2002-01-24 Thread H.McM

The only other suggestion I have is to try the 2.4.8-34 kernel from the Mandrake 81 
update directory. That fixed a parallel port issue with me, but not much else besides. 
Or is that the one you are running? Out of the box MDK comes with... ummm 
2.4.8-something-less-than-34.

If all else fails, try inserting a toasted cheese sandwich into drive A.

Helen


 I'm still in kernel hell.  The stock 2.4.8 (8.1)
 kernel doesn't work for me.  The pcmcia is screwed (It
 doesn't properly deal with my old, reliable 3Com 589
 pcmcia card) and sound is dead...hence trying to build
 a functional kernel.  I HAD a perfectly fine 2.4.13
 kernel for a while but then accidently trashed my
 system and had to reinstall.  Since then, I'm in hell.
 
   To answer your question, the 2.4.17.8 kernel didn't
 work any better than 17.7 did for me.  I have NEVER
 had this kind of trouble with building kernels before.
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Re: [expert] /etc is for miscellaneous files?

2002-01-24 Thread Randy Kramer

Tom Badran wrote:
  I read in the Linux Pocketbook that /etc is for miscellaneous files.
  It's only for config files isn't it?  Does anyone know the significance of the 
name /etc (why not /config?)?
 
 Electronic Terminal Configuration (just guessing - i have no idea).

My guess (absolutely just a guess) would be from etc. (et cetera).

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Re: [expert] /etc is for miscellaneous files?

2002-01-24 Thread Tom Badran

 I read in the Linux Pocketbook that /etc is for miscellaneous files.
 It's only for config files isn't it?  Does anyone know the significance of the name 
/etc (why not /config?)?

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Re: [expert] Strange port open

2002-01-24 Thread Bryan B Whitehead

another way would be netstat -lp as root. This will give all listening
ports and the process that is doing the listening. :)


On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 00:20, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 So sprach »Ken Thompson« am 2002-01-22 um 20:03:41 -0700 :
  While doing a scan with nmap I found this port open and don't know what it is.
  Port   State   Service
  3/tcp  opencompressnet  
  Anybody know?
 
 Hmm, never seen this one before.  But you can rather easily find out
 which program has this port open, by using lsof:
 lsof -i :3
 Only root is allowed to do this, though.
 
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[expert] What now with konqueror?

2002-01-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

OK, I gave up on my system and wiped it and then reinstalled 8.1 from scratch 
AGAIN (3 times in so many days).  It booted up, identified my pcmcia 3c589 OK 
and got me a connection.  Sound still dead.  I just can't get konqueror to 
startup as a user - I CAN start it as root.

My .xsession-errors file contains:

Running update-menus...done
DCOPServer up and running.
File = /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kcookiescfg.upd
Skipping 'kde2.2/b1'
File = /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/konsole.upd
Skipping 'kde2.2/r1'
File = /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kdevelop2.upd
Skipping 'kde2.2'
File = /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/knewsticker.upd
Skipping 'KNewsTicker-0.2'
File = /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/klipperrc.upd
Skipping '25082001'
File = /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kioslave.upd
Skipping 'kde2.2/r1'
Skipping 'kde2.2/r2'
Skipping 'kde2.2/r3'
/home/praedor/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Applications/Publishing/Xpdf.desktop: 
\nServiceTypes[
\t]*=[ \t]*([^\n]*)\n NOT FOUND
Wrote /home/praedor/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Applications/Publishing/Xpdf.desktop
/home/praedor/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Applications/Publishing/Xpdf.desktop: 
\nMimeType[ \t]*=[ \t]*([^\n]*)\n NOT FOUND
Wrote /home/praedor/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Applications/Publishing/Xpdf.desktop
Wrote 
/home/praedor/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Applications/Publishing/kghostview.desktop
Wrote 
/home/praedor/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Applications/Publishing/kghostview.desktop
_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
QObject::connect: No such signal KDockArea::docked()
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'view widget')
QToolBar::QToolBar main window cannot be 0.
QObject::connect: No such signal KDockArea::docked()
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'view widget')
QToolBar::QToolBar main window cannot be 0.
DCOP aborting while waiting for answer from 'kded'
QObject::connect: No such signal KDockArea::docked()
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'view widget')
QToolBar::QToolBar main window cannot be 0.
DCOP aborting while waiting for answer from 'kded'

There is nothing worthwhile or relevant in my /var/log/messages.  What the 
hell?  What now?  Anyone?

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[expert] disabling firewall

2002-01-24 Thread alberto passariello



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Re: [expert] will questions on 8.0 not be answered?

2002-01-24 Thread Vincent Danen

On Tue Jan 22, 2002 at 12:59:50PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I recently posted a question on how to update to a newer kernel in 8.0
  but got no answer. :-(
 
  Is 8.0 too old to reply on now?
 
 For the kernel update procedure:
 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/2001/MDKSA-2001-079-2.php3?dis=8.0

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Re: [expert] What now with konqueror?

2002-01-24 Thread Dave Sherman

On Thu, 2002-01-24 at 12:42, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 OK, I gave up on my system and wiped it and then reinstalled 8.1 from scratch 
 AGAIN (3 times in so many days).  It booted up, identified my pcmcia 3c589 OK 
 and got me a connection.  Sound still dead.  I just can't get konqueror to 
 startup as a user - I CAN start it as root.

Just out of curiosity, did you have the PCMCIA card in the system during
the install? I have run into problems in the past, where having the card
installed caused led to many headaches both during and after install. I
have had better success by leaving the card out of the box during
install, then putting it in place and letting Linux (kudzu or whatever)
auto-detect the card and load the pcmcia kernel module. After that, it
was a simple matter to configure networking for the card.

I have heard of others having similar pcmcia troubles, so I don't think
either you or me are alone in this.

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Re: [expert] /etc is for miscellaneous files?

2002-01-24 Thread Felix Miata

Randy Kramer wrote:
 
 Tom Badran wrote:

   I read in the Linux Pocketbook that /etc is for miscellaneous files.
   It's only for config files isn't it?  Does anyone know the significance of the 
name /etc (why not /config?)?
 
 My guess (absolutely just a guess) would be from etc. (et cetera).

Perfect guess. Everything non-binary that doesn't belong elsewhere.
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Re: [expert] no route to host but ping

2002-01-24 Thread Bill

The !X means you are administrativly blocked for udp packets you might try 
traceroute -I xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx to see if you are blocked for ICMP packets. 
Anyhow whoever admins the router before your connection has those ports 
blocked more than likely.


On Star Date Thursday 24 January 2002 03:50 am, FL sent this sub-space 
message. 
 
 Hi!

 I have just set up a 8.1 server.
 Quite everything works fine but I have a routing problem.

 I can access the internet as a client.
 I can ssh my box using a internal box
 I can't acces my box using a external box.

 This is not an hosts.allow or deny problem, I have checked the files.
 I have disable Iptables and bastille for test purpose.

 Here are the details :

 1. I can ping x.x.111.50 from the outside
 2. I can't ssh, ftp or http, the services are active and running from
 inside.

 3. I can't traceroute : it stops before the server

 traceroute x.x.x.50, 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
  1  x  4.821 ms  10.177 ms  20.359 ms
 [...]
  9  x.x.133.18 (193.107.133.18)  15.964 ms !X *  21.853 ms !X

 4. NMAP resulst on the host x.x.x.50

 For port 22 (nmap -vv -p22)
 Port   State   Service
 22/tcp filteredssh

 For port 21 (nmap -vv -p21)
 Port   State   Service
 21/tcp filteredftp

 For port 80 (nmap -vv -p80)
 Port   State   Service
 80/tcp openhttp

 I can telnet this port but :

 Connected to [...]
 Escape character is '^]'.
 GET /
 Connection closed by foreign host.


 The net admin told me, everything is ok, and that it should be a internal
 problem in my box... Any idea ?

 Thanks

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Re: [expert] Mdk8.1 - McAfee uvscan - Error: libstdc++.so.2.8

2002-01-24 Thread Brian Henerey

Bump

---surely I'm not the only one using Mcafee Linux viruscan on a mandrake 8.1 
box. ---


On Monday 21 January 2002 04:42 pm, Brian Henerey wrote:
 Hello,
 I have a Mdk8.1 workstation. I went to install McAfee VirusScan for Linux.
 No problems in install, but get the following error message:

 [bch@cmrlmail bch]$ uvscan
 uvscan: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.2.8: cannot open
 shared object file: No such file or directory

 I've searched and searched and can't seem to figure this out. Surely others
 are using this software combination. I did find some people have a similar
 problem with other software regarding libstdc++.so.2.8. There solution was
 to make a symblic link from my current version of the libstdc++ to
 libstdc++.so.2.8.  I tried this by doing the command:

 [root@cmrlmail lib]#ln -s libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so libstdc++.so.2.8

 then when I run uvscan again I get:

 [root@cmrlmail lib]# /usr/local/uvscan/uvscan
 /usr/local/uvscan/uvscan: error while loading shared libraries:
 /usr/local/uvscan/uvscan: undefined symbol: __eh_pc


 Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 Thanks,
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RE: [expert] Firewall/Gateway ?

2002-01-24 Thread Marcus Breiden



Hmm, 
for blocking of IM's take a look at

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/gov/features/tips/t_blocking_instant_messengers_gov.html

Best 
idea would be IMHO to block the login server e.g. login.oscar.aol.com in your 
firewall scripts, blocking the ports will not work.

Your 
idea will work, you will just have to configure the firewall a little bit ;-) 
but on the other side, if the Novell Server is running BorderManager this can be 
done directly on the Novell Server.

Bye

Marcus



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  AMTo: Mandrake ExpertSubject: [expert] Firewall/Gateway 
  ?
  I have 49 Windows PCs (all but 2 are 
  running Win2k and they are 98se), 16 Macs one Win2k DC and 1 MDK 8.1 web, ftp, 
  ssh serverthat I manage. They are on a Win2k domain and the DC does all 
  the DNS, the client PCs all have static IPs. They all get there gateway out 
  from a Novell server that I have no control of. I would like to add some 
  firewall protection to my portion of the network (did I mention all the IPs 
  are external!) and I want to be able to block the IM clients like Yahoo, AIM 
  by killing their ports. Could I add a linux box to be the firewall and gateway 
  without to much knowledge of setting this stuff up under Linux. Would it work 
  by pointing the Linux box to the current gateway and change the clients to 
  point to it for their gateway?
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[expert] Confirmed dead 2.4.27.8

2002-01-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

OK, when I got a usable 8.1 system with
kernel-2.4.8-26mdk running, I decided to try one more
time with kerne-2.4.17.8.  This time, instead of doing
a source build I just installed the binary and
rebooted.  It booted up and...jus as with my own build
attempts, pcmcia failed miserablely and sound was
dead.
  What I get are several things.  First, and REALLY
unfortunately, with the 2.4.17 kernels it appears that
pcmcia-cs is fully incorporated into the kernel.  This
makes fixing the pcmcia problem very difficult.  
First off, ALL the friggin' pcmcia modules are there
where they are supposed to be but pcmcia doesn't exist
in /etc/init.d so it doesn't/can't start at bootup.  I
built and installed pcmcia-cs-3.1.31 and then did the
/etc/init.d/pcmcia start thing and the kernel
complained that i82398.o and ds.o doesn't exist.  I
looked and they DO exist exactly where they are
supposed and expected to me.  They are really really
there but they are invisable somehow to the 2.4.17
kernel.  
  I have gone back to 2.4.8 and have pcmcia working as
Buddha intended.  2.4.17 IS dicked up and I would like
to address the very real problem with integrating
pcmcia into the kernel source.  
  I have a couple wireless lan cards.  To make them
work properly I need linux-wlan-ng source. 
Linux-wlan-ng requires pcmcia-cs sourcecode that is
properly configured for your kernel/system...and it
must have a pcmcia-cs-x.x.x directory of some sort
with the config information in it in order to build
and install.  With the pcmcia incorporated into the
kernel and scattered all over several different
directories, it is impossible to build linux-wlan-ng.
  The drivers for my wireless cards in the
kernel-supplied pcmcia are crippled.  They do not
allow for monitoring mode, instead forcing the wimply
wvlan_cs module on prism2 cards that have the
capability to operate in promiscuous and monitor mode.
 The wvlan_cs driver doesn't allow this, not on the
prism2 cards and not on orinoco cards for which it is
better suited.  ONLY the linux-wlan-ng drivers allow
this full functionality from prism2 wireless cards.
  Until/unless Mandrake incorporates linux-wlan-ng
prism2 drivers instead of pcmcia-cs crippled prism2
drivers into their newer kernels, it will remain
absolutely necessary to download, build, and install
linux-wlan-ng source based on a separate pcmcia-cs
source package.
  This is a very real problem.

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[expert] Post install oddity

2002-01-24 Thread Deryk Barker

Having just shot myself in the foot and accidentally blow away
critical files in /boot, I did a rapid reinstall of MDK8.1 yesterday.

I allowed it do standard install, and checked every single type
(e.g. workstation, etc).

Now, I can live with the fact that this didn't sem to install any
command-line mail readers (I've just manually installed mutt) but what
I can't understand is whym when I try to access the CD-ROM (actually
DVD-ROM from which I did the install, I get the message that file type
iso9660 is not supported by the kernel.

Now I know *what* the message means, but I can't understand how the
install can have failed to establish the need for is9660 (as I did
install from CD after all) and it's been so long since I messed with
kernel configuration etc that I can't remember how to fix the problem
(quickly).

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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread Expert

If you wish to execute a programme or application,
you must invoke it by typing a ./ a dot and a slash
together right up against the file name of the
executable, lets say the file name was xcdroast
well, one would type ./xcdroastto get it to
run, this is for security purposes because you should
not put . in your path or else someone could bust
into your unix system. If you want, you can add a
certain directory to your path like /bin or /sbin .

If you wish to know what to type to put some
directory in your path just ask and i will
look it up real quick on my system.

hope this helps

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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread Thomas Sourmail

 run, this is for security purposes because you should
 not put . in your path or else someone could bust
 into your unix system. 

How ?

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Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC

2002-01-24 Thread Molotov



- Original Message -
From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: expert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Strange behavior of a tulip clone NIC


This is a response to the system doesn't boot any more part:

If you downloaded ALL the updates available, you will have updated the
kernel which is more or less certain to screw your system up.  For
future reference, don't use update for the kernel.  Download it and use:

rpm -ivh

to install it alongside your existing kernel.  I don't know why mandrake
insist on putting the kernel in the same bin as all the other security
updates, thereby inviting people to trash their systems, but they keep
on doing it.

Brian


Hello
Thank you very much for this tip. You are right: this is the way I screwed
my system up. At least, I've learned something ;-)
I think there was an update for the glibc, too. Could such an upgrade be a
problem too ?
By the way: I have a geforce2 card, which I used with the kernel module from
Nvidia. Upgrading the kernel with rpm -ivh should have kept this clean, or
it could bring me other problems ?
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Re: [expert] gcc 3.0

2002-01-24 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 03:03:35 -0800
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 Praedor,
I haven't used it myself, but a friend of mine (one of the original
 members of 386 BSD development team at Berkley) has been trying it out. 
 He said that for now anything built with it isn't compatible with programs
 compiled with earlier versions of gcc.  In short he told me it's going to
 draw a line in the sand that separtes linux binaries into two incompatible
 worlds.  (His original reaction was a groan, rolled eyes and a head shake)
  He told me it works.  The binaries were fine, but a strong compatability
 issue.
 
 

If the compiler is causing those kinds of serious compatibility issues then
why in the world was it released in such a state? that doesn't quite make
much sense. the last thing the Linux community seems to need at the moment
is something to segragate it's members from one another.

is this something that Steve Balmer dreamed up?

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Re: [expert] Stay away from the cooker 2.4.17 kernels

2002-01-24 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 03:07:37 -0800
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 All,
Am I the only one who is getting nostalgic for 2.2.19?  for now, for
 me, I'm sticking with the stock kernel and shying away from anything new. 
 It's working.
 
 James
 

Well...I've got an old test machine that I'm going to try out the cooker
kernel on to see if Supermount is indeed working again. not that I can't get
along without it mind you... I just like tinkering.

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Re: [expert] will questions on 8.0 not be answered?

2002-01-24 Thread Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez

Hi,

Any Mandrake prepared kernel from www.rpmfind.net (search for 'kernel'),
will be fine for 8.x I guess. Download it from there and install the
rpm,
it is the easiest way. Then say to lilo or grub where the kernel is, add
a new entry and make it the default, it should be easy with the Mandrake
control center.

(In www.kernel.org you will find the kernels ready to compile, if you
want)

I recommend you not to go for 2.4.8. I am quite happy with 2.4.13.


Jose


El mar, 22-01-2002 a las 15:19, mike escribió:
 Hi,
 
 I recently posted a question on how to update to a newer kernel in 8.0
 but got no answer. :-(
 
 Is 8.0 too old to reply on now? 
 
 
 Mike McNeese
 
 Mandrake purchaser and user of 7.0 / 7.1 / 7.2 / 8.0 / 8.1
 
 
 

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Re: [expert] Confirmed dead 2.4.27.8

2002-01-24 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:17:12 -0800 (PST)
Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 OK, when I got a usable 8.1 system with
 kernel-2.4.8-26mdk running, I decided to try one more
 time with kerne-2.4.17.8.  This time, instead of doing
 a source build I just installed the binary and
 rebooted.  It booted up and...jus as with my own build
 attempts, pcmcia failed miserablely and sound was
 dead.

[little snip]

Praedor,

I don't mean to pour salt into an open wound, but have you considered that
there just might be hardware issues here and that it's not the software?
PCMCIA is some of the most notoriously miserable technology when it doesn't
work right. Even on a windows machine that will normally any old POS that
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Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Thompson

kmix only controls the mixer and as such allows you to select the source 
to record from (red LEDs at the bottom). You need something else to do 
the actual recording. Want a GUI? Try KRecord (apps.kde.com) which does 
a very good job and will display VU and FFT info to help you get the 
levels right. I like it 'cus it allows both record to RAM and record to 
disk. Long (1hour, 500-600MB) high quality recordings are possible to 
disk. But a GUI is no good if you won't be there to kick it off. I like 
streamer for this (part of LM8.1). mainly 'cus it can be kicked off from 
cron and has a recording length parameter to get it to stop again. I 
record some radio programs this way.

However, I only record from audio in and I'm not sure how easy it will 
be for you to share the /dev/dsp device with both real player and one of 
the above. Maybe you can get it to work by using something like 'artsdsp 
rplayer...' to wrap the applications in arts 'shells'.

Nick.

Oscar wrote:

Try bcast

El jue, 24-01-2002 a las 00:12, D. R. Evans escribió:

What program do people recommend for recording audio? Specifically, if 
I am playing a RealAudio file through RealPlayer, I would like to 
record the audio in a format that I can later play back.

None of the programs that is installed by default in MDK 8.1 seems to 
perform this function. (I thought that kmix did; but there's no Save 
As... to allow me to tell it where to put any recorded audio; the help 
talks about recording, but doesn't give any clue as to how to actually 
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Re: [expert] Strange port open

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Bryan B Whitehead« am 2002-01-24 um 10:19:05 -0800 :
 another way would be netstat -lp as root. This will give all listening

Although that's no rocket science, I didn't know this.  Thanks!

SCNR ;)

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[expert] Anyone have any luck getting Tomcat to work with LM8.1 + Apache?

2002-01-24 Thread Mitchell, Edmund

Hello all,
I'm hoping someone can point me to a link that has a how-to, or a
step-by-step that will get Tomcat working with Apache on a stock install of
LM 8.1.
I've been to a bunch of sites, followed plenty of documentation, but it just
wouldn't work.
So, rather than ask if someone can explain a bizarre error message, I'll
hope someone has found documentation that did work, and then I'll go from
there.

Thanks for any help

Edmund

Links that professed to get the two working together but didn't under LM8.1:
 http://dcb.sun.com/practices/howtos/tomcat_apache.jsp
 http://www.linux.com/enhance/newsitem.phtml?sid=1aid=11992
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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread Aleksey Y Naumov

Yes, of course, this is what I did:

[aleksey@botik aleksey]$ ./swatgrs_set
bash: ./swatgrs_set: No such file or directory
[aleksey@botik aleksey]$

I think we've established that the problem was due to some bad path names
inside the executable.

Thanks

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Expert wrote:

 If you wish to execute a programme or application,
 you must invoke it by typing a ./ a dot and a slash
 together right up against the file name of the
 executable, lets say the file name was xcdroast
 well, one would type ./xcdroastto get it to
 run, this is for security purposes because you should
 not put . in your path or else someone could bust
 into your unix system. If you want, you can add a
 certain directory to your path like /bin or /sbin .
 
 If you wish to know what to type to put some
 directory in your path just ask and i will
 look it up real quick on my system.
 
 hope this helps
 
 On Tuesday 22 January 2002 10:57 pm, so spoke Pierre Fortin :
  On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:45:47 -0500
 
  Aleksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   But now I'm up against the wall, because this is a compiled executable.
 
   ^^^
 
 




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Re: [expert] What now with konqueror?

2002-01-24 Thread Harm Bathoorn

On Thursday 24 January 2002 19:42, you wrote:
 OK, I gave up on my system and wiped it and then reinstalled 8.1 from
 scratch AGAIN (3 times in so many days).  It booted up, identified my
 pcmcia 3c589 OK and got me a connection.  Sound still dead.  I just can't
 get konqueror to startup as a user - I CAN start it as root.



I got the same 'problem' after installing java-plugins.
Doesn't bother me enough to repair yet though.
What helps in my case: Do a CTRL ALT backspace login again and it 
works. Funny thing: if I logout 'normally' my wacom pad stops functioning 
this way all goes well.
Reeks heavily of X or NVidia (in my case) doesn't it?
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Re: [expert] will questions on 8.0 not be answered?

2002-01-24 Thread mike

Thanks to all who offered help on my situation.

To let all know , 

I got kernel-2.4.17-8mdk.rpm and the header and doc rpm's at kernel .org
and did a simple install and FINALLY got it to work just dandy! ;-) 

had to do some editing of lilo.conf but now I have both the stock 
2.4.3-20 and the 2.4.17-8 kernels to choose from. and all is very well!
The only thing that I doesn't run out of the box on the new kernel is
VMware 2.0.4, but when I find the header files for the 2.4.17 kernel
( If anyone knows where they were put... ) I think they are in
/usr/include , but if so vmware will not compile. but then I do have the
old kernel too. 

Anyway , 

Thanks again especially to William Bouterse of Talkeetna, Ak,
who gave me the key to making it work.

Thanks again everyone!!! 

Linux on ! 

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Re: [expert] stdc++ library version 2.8 -- how do I create link to this from current libraries in Mandrake 8.1?

2002-01-24 Thread Deryk Barker

Thus spake Brian Henerey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 I am trying to run software that requires the stdc++ library version 2.8. I 
 saw some posts that suggested creating a symbolic link from the current 
 libraries to libstdc++.so.2.8.

I think libstdc++.so.2.8 comes with the egcs RPM, which probably7
didn't get installed.

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Re: [expert] Cd burn

2002-01-24 Thread Brian Schroeder

I totally lost my cdburner in 8.1, but managed to get it back and
working again by changing the lilo.conf entry to use:

devfs = nomount


From: Geoff Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have just upgraded to LM 8.1.
CD writer does not work.
The cdrom can be mounted and used to read files from disk.
Supermount didn't work so I got rid of it ( It worked with 8.0)
Hardware setup
   IDE 1 - Hard drive  hda
   IDE 2 - Master - CDROM RW   detected both as hdc and scd0
   Slave -  CDROM  detected as hdd
dev/cdrom points to cdroms/cdrom0 points to ./ide/host0/bus1/...cd
dev/cdrom0 points to the same
dev/cdrom1 points to cdroms/cdrom1/cd
dev/scd0 points to scsi/host0...cd
lilo.conf has a line - append = devfs = mount hdc = ide - scsi 

When using cd burner software such as gtoaster, the cd burner is not
detected.

Hard drake detects the cd writer both as dev/hdc and dev/scd0

Has anybody had this problem?
Any ideas?

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Re: [expert] Euro problem, only Spanish locale?

2002-01-24 Thread Harm Bathoorn

On Thursday 24 January 2002 22:58, you wrote:
 Ok. Kde is a nightmare. I can't configure it and the euro symbol is
 currently a ? symbol. OTOH, I can see the euro symbol in gnome apps
 and staroffice 5.2. But I can't print it.
 Can somebody print the Euro ¤ symbol?
 Maybe the euro symbol will print in 8.2?

I've been able to print for over a year now using staroffice (5.0 through 5.2 
to 6.0) with starcalc to create the bills I send.
Admittedly at the time I first needed Window$ to put it in the template:)

If you can see the it symbol in gnome you can copy it with cut  paste to KDE 
configuration centre  valuta symbols making it usable in kspread. 
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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread kwan

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Thomas Sourmail wrote:

  run, this is for security purposes because you should
  not put . in your path or else someone could bust
  into your unix system.

 How ?

If the current directory is in the PATH variable before the standard
paths, someone could place a trojaned version of a program into a world
writable directory. Whenever someone ran (or think they ran) a system
utility from that directory, they would instead be running the fake.

E.g.
  echo $PATH

  You should see something like /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin

  Set root's PATH to include the current directory first:
  PATH=.:$PATH

  cd to /tmp as a normal use

  create a script that does something, say touch a file in a priveleged
  directory and call the script ls:

  #!/bin/bash
  touch /path/to/priveleged/directory/delete_me
  ls $*


  Now, if root cds to /tmp and does an 'ls', the script will run
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[expert] Font antialiasing

2002-01-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

OK, I believe there used to be a file in one's home directory that had 
information as to what font sizes would get antialiased.  Where did it go?  
I've looked at all the likely dot files in my home directory and nothing 
mentions antialiasing.

  I ask because I select antialiasing in kcontrol but NONE of the linux fonts 
get antialiased.  MUST I install windoze fonts?  I would be happy to but...if 
I install windows fonts I invariably lose the ability to find/use ANY of the 
decent linux fonts like helvetica.  For whatever reason, installing windoze 
ttf fonts eliminates helvetica from the list of fonts available to me.

I am going to try downloading a real kernel source tarball from kernel.org 
and see if that will work...at least 2.4.13, which I KNOW works great from 
past experience.

praedor (after my 5th MD 8.1 reinstall...finally getting a 
non-sound-but-otherwise-working system)

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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread Expert

Someone else will have to chime in for that one,
I do not know specifically how, but I was told
not to put the dot in my path, good question,
anyone know?

On Thursday 24 January 2002 02:42 pm, so spoke Thomas Sourmail :
  run, this is for security purposes because you should
  not put . in your path or else someone could bust
  into your unix system.

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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread mike

do an ls -la swatgrs_set | cat -vet and see if there are any stray characters.

On Wednesday 23 January 2002 12:36, Aleksey wrote:
 Thank you, Pierre, kwan and Mike,

 Pierre, I tried strace, and here's what I get:

 [aleksey@botik aleksey]$ strace swatgrs_set
 execve(/home/aleksey/swatgrs_set, [swatgrs_set], [/* 52 vars */]) = 0
 strace: exec: No such file or directory

 Not a whole lot, seems to me. Any ideas? BTW, I must confess that this
 binary seems quite old, the name of the package which contains
 swatgrs_set is swat_linux1.2.13_300_bin.tar.gz -- may be for kernel
 1.2.13?

 Anyway, I suppose there's little I can do now, short of asking for the
 source, correct?


 Sorry for muddying the waters with the script example, this problem is
 really is not a scripting one -- the only reason I mentioned it is that I
 only saw this problem before for my Python scripts.

 Mike, since swatgrs_set *isn't* a script, I don't know if experimenting
 with bash scripts can do me any good, correct me if I am wrong. And I don't
 know what exactly this executable does, it's part of an interface tool
 between packages called GRASS (geographic information system) and SWAT
 (hydrological model)

 Again, thank you all for help!

 Aleksey

 On Wednesday 23 January 2002 11:01, you wrote:
  On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:28:54 -0800 (PST)
 
  Mike  Tracy Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yesterday... Pierre Fortin was spotted running through the streets
 
  shrieking:
 
   On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:45:47 -0500
   
   Aleksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But now I'm up against the wall, because this is a compiled
 
  executable. 
  ^^^ Why would
  this ^  necessarily be the problem?  Is it just because
  there are no other  possibilities?  Just curious for future reference.
 
  I wasn't saying this was the problem...  just pointing out to other
  responders that comments about scripts were not relavent since you did
  indicate it was a compiled executable; although after muddying the
  waters with script stuff...  :^)   Hence, why my earlier response was to
  use strace...
 
  HTH,
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Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash

2002-01-24 Thread Travis Olds

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How ?
 
 If the current directory is in the PATH variable before the standard
 paths, someone could place a trojaned version of a program into a world
 writable directory. Whenever someone ran (or think they ran) a system
 utility from that directory, they would instead be running the fake.

Yes that's a good reason to not put . at the start of your path so just
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[expert] why is it

2002-01-24 Thread Bill

Why is it I dont see my posts to this list? O know there being posted by 
folks emailing me with answeres but I dont see my actual posts or answers 
that I have sent to posts from others



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Re: [expert] What now with konqueror?

2002-01-24 Thread Ken Thompson

On Thursday 24 January 2002 01:58 pm, you wrote:
 On Thursday 24 January 2002 19:42, you wrote:
  OK, I gave up on my system and wiped it and then reinstalled 8.1 from
  scratch AGAIN (3 times in so many days).  It booted up, identified my
  pcmcia 3c589 OK and got me a connection.  Sound still dead.  I just can't
  get konqueror to startup as a user - I CAN start it as root.

 I got the same 'problem' after installing java-plugins.
 Doesn't bother me enough to repair yet though.
 What helps in my case: Do a CTRL ALT backspace login again and it
 works. Funny thing: if I logout 'normally' my wacom pad stops functioning
 this way all goes well.
 Reeks heavily of X or NVidia (in my case) doesn't it?

FWIW, after installing Flash 5 and JRE 1.1.3 Konqueror wouldn't start as 
either file manager or web browser as normal user after loging out and back 
in. I didn't try it as root.. I finally had to remove KDE urpme kde and 
reinstall the whole shootin' match...
I tried this twice to make sure I hadn't messed up the first time and then 
just installed JRE 1.1.3 from sun and everything seems OK niw.. Must have 
been Flash 5 that trashed it..
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[expert] netscape plugin finder

2002-01-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

OK, I feel silly for asking this...I'd swear I saw a button for this 
somewhere but now I cannot find it.

I have finished another full reinstall of 8.1 and am trying to get my 
netscape plugins (like flash) properly recognized and used.  How?  I cannot 
find the old button for Scan for new plugins anywhere I've looked so far.

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[expert] Tyan Dual AMD board

2002-01-24 Thread Steve

I have the Tyan Tiger MP (S2460), the one without the integrated stuff. 
 Anyway has anyone gotten Mandrake to properly recognize the 
motherboard's chipset.  The stock kernel defaults my ide speeds to 
UDMA(33).  I installed the 2.4.17 cooker kernel, and while this kernel 
seems to recognize the chipset correctly, the kernel causes other things 
to break.  Does anyone have any suggestions on what would be the best 
kernel to use on my system?

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Re: [expert] Confirmed dead 2.4.27.8

2002-01-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have wondered but then dismissed this.  My new, fresh reinstall of 8.1 (6th 
or 7th time in 3 days) properly recognizes and uses my 3c589 card...after I 
dumped the default dhcpcd install and replaced it with 
dhcp-common/dhcp-client rpms, that is.  The big stopper now is STILL sound.  
I had perfectly working sound before this whole mess (started and caused 
repeatedly with attempts to use or build ANY form of 2.4.17 kernel) when I 
had a nice, self-built 2.4.13 kernel.  I WANT IT BACK!!  

Know where I can find the kernel-source for the Mandrake 2.4.13 kernel?  It 
worked beautifully...I had simply hoped (wrongly it turns out) that 2.4.17 
would be improved even more.  Boy was I wrong on that.  That is the most 
miserably broken kernel I've ever had the displeasure to mess with.  Even if 
you install the precompiled binary it doesn't work...and it even produces 
unknown symbol messages for two of its own modules (minix.o and sysv.o)!  To 
add insult to injury, it doesn't even recognize that it has its own pcmcia 
modules like i82365 and ds.  They are CLEARLY extant right where they are 
supposed to be but the kernel complains that they do not exist when trying to 
start pcmcia!  Gee-aaw!   Building it myself in various ways didn't fix the 
minix.o and sysv.o symbol problem and it certainly didn't do jack for pcmcia 
or sound.  

The whole reason I have been wanting to get past the 2.4.8-26mdk 8.1 kernel 
is because it doesn't work with my soundcard...a simple, old, never-changing 
ess solo1.  This worked with with all the 2.2.x kernels and with 2.4.13, just 
not with 2.4.8 or 2.4.17.  

I'm getting real irate about the whole damn thing after dicking with this and 
that, trashing my system totally (the 2.4.17 kernels in any form installed on 
my system broke it so badly that it was easier to reinstall from scratch than 
to try to untangle the mess.

praedor

On Thursday 24 January 2002 14:27, you wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:17:12 -0800 (PST)

 Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
  OK, when I got a usable 8.1 system with
  kernel-2.4.8-26mdk running, I decided to try one more
  time with kerne-2.4.17.8.  This time, instead of doing
  a source build I just installed the binary and
  rebooted.  It booted up and...jus as with my own build
  attempts, pcmcia failed miserablely and sound was
  dead.

 [little snip]

 Praedor,

 I don't mean to pour salt into an open wound, but have you considered that
 there just might be hardware issues here and that it's not the software?
 PCMCIA is some of the most notoriously miserable technology when it doesn't
 work right. Even on a windows machine that will normally any old POS that
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Re: [expert] netscape plugin finder

2002-01-24 Thread Andre Dubuc

Hi Praedor,

If you're asking about Konqueror's Scan for new plugins (I'm still with LM 
8.0):

Configure Konqueror  Settings - KDE Control  Netscape Plugins icon  Scan  
Scan for plugins.

This assumes that you've added the kdebase-nsplugins.

Hth,
Andre


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 OK, I feel silly for asking this...I'd swear I saw a button for this
 somewhere but now I cannot find it.

 I have finished another full reinstall of 8.1 and am trying to get my
 netscape plugins (like flash) properly recognized and used.  How?  I cannot
 find the old button for Scan for new plugins anywhere I've looked so far.

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Re: [expert] Confirmed dead 2.4.27.8

2002-01-24 Thread NDPTAL85

On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 09:25  PM, Praedor Tempus wrote:

 I have wondered but then dismissed this.  My new, fresh reinstall of 
 8.1 (6th
 or 7th time in 3 days) properly recognizes and uses my 3c589 
 card...after I
 dumped the default dhcpcd install and replaced it with
 dhcp-common/dhcp-client rpms, that is.  The big stopper now is STILL 
 sound.
 I had perfectly working sound before this whole mess (started and caused
 repeatedly with attempts to use or build ANY form of 2.4.17 kernel) 
 when I
 had a nice, self-built 2.4.13 kernel.  I WANT IT BACK!!

 Know where I can find the kernel-source for the Mandrake 2.4.13 
 kernel?  It
 worked beautifully...I had simply hoped (wrongly it turns out) that 
 2.4.17
 would be improved even more.  Boy was I wrong on that.  That is the most
 miserably broken kernel I've ever had the displeasure to mess with.  
 Even if
 you install the precompiled binary it doesn't work...and it even 
 produces
 unknown symbol messages for two of its own modules (minix.o and 
 sysv.o)!  To
 add insult to injury, it doesn't even recognize that it has its own 
 pcmcia
 modules like i82365 and ds.  They are CLEARLY extant right where they 
 are
 supposed to be but the kernel complains that they do not exist when 
 trying to
 start pcmcia!  Gee-aaw!   Building it myself in various ways didn't fix 
 the
 minix.o and sysv.o symbol problem and it certainly didn't do jack for 
 pcmcia
 or sound.

 The whole reason I have been wanting to get past the 2.4.8-26mdk 8.1 
 kernel
 is because it doesn't work with my soundcard...a simple, old, 
 never-changing
 ess solo1.  This worked with with all the 2.2.x kernels and with 
 2.4.13, just
 not with 2.4.8 or 2.4.17.

 I'm getting real irate about the whole damn thing after dicking with 
 this and
 that, trashing my system totally (the 2.4.17 kernels in any form 
 installed on
 my system broke it so badly that it was easier to reinstall from 
 scratch than
 to try to untangle the mess.

Is there some outstanding reason why you can't remain with 2.4.13 until 
later 2.4.x kernels present less trouble for you?






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[expert] ISP setup

2002-01-24 Thread otrobert

My employer is considering getting ISP access for the 50 or so laptop users to update 
patient info each night. Seems it might be cheaper to setup a linux box and make the 
ISP themselves. Can this be done? What would be needed? A pointer to a how to would be 
great. 
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Re: [expert] Confirmed dead 2.4.27.8

2002-01-24 Thread mike

did you look here? 

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/

it has kernel 2.4.13

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Re: [expert] netscape plugin finder

2002-01-24 Thread Ken Thompson

On Thursday 24 January 2002 07:15 pm, you wrote:
 OK, I feel silly for asking this...I'd swear I saw a button for this
 somewhere but now I cannot find it.

 I have finished another full reinstall of 8.1 and am trying to get my
 netscape plugins (like flash) properly recognized and used.  How?  I cannot
 find the old button for Scan for new plugins anywhere I've looked so far.

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Re: [expert] disabling firewall

2002-01-24 Thread Ronald J. Hall

 alberto passariello wrote:
 
 During configuration of a mandrake i enabled MandrakeConf activated firewall
  since I need to disable it, how can I proceed
 
 
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Hi there. If its bastille do this (as root):

service bastille-firewall stop

and if you need to restart it again:

service bastille-firewall start

I had to do this when I could not get Diablo2: Lord of Destruction to play
networking (via Winex).

Hope this helps! ;-)

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Re: [expert] ISP setup

2002-01-24 Thread Tim Holmes

Starting their own ISP may be more extensive and costly for what they need.
But Linux could be of some service in this instance.

They could purchase an Internet connection from any number of local ISPs.
Whether it's a business DSL connection, a business T1 connection, ISDN,
possibly even a cable connection.

From there they could build a Linux or BSD gateway that can asign internal
IP address to all the laptops, and allow them to share the same Internet
connection.

This could cost the company anywhere from $50 a month, on up to $3,000.
Just depends on how far they want to go, and how much bandwidth they
want/require.

But starting their own ISP is more work then I think is needed for what
you've mentioned below.
tdh

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 |update patient info each night. Seems it might be cheaper to setup a linux box and 
 |make the ISP themselves. Can this be done? What would be needed? A pointer to a how 
 |to would be great. 
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Re: [expert] Confirmed dead 2.4.27.8

2002-01-24 Thread mandrake


Again, did you ever build a 2.4.17 kernel from straight source (not from
SRPM)?  And if you want 2.4.13 (or any other kernel for that matter),
it's available at ftp.kernel.org.

Cheers,

-Charlie

Praedor Tempus said:
 I have wondered but then dismissed this.  My new, fresh reinstall of
 8.1 (6th  or 7th time in 3 days) properly recognizes and uses my 3c589
 card...after I  dumped the default dhcpcd install and replaced it with
 dhcp-common/dhcp-client rpms, that is.  The big stopper now is STILL
 sound.   I had perfectly working sound before this whole mess (started
 and caused  repeatedly with attempts to use or build ANY form of 2.4.17
 kernel) when I  had a nice, self-built 2.4.13 kernel.  I WANT IT BACK!!


 Know where I can find the kernel-source for the Mandrake 2.4.13 kernel?
  It  worked beautifully...I had simply hoped (wrongly it turns out)
 that 2.4.17  would be improved even more.  Boy was I wrong on that.
 That is the most  miserably broken kernel I've ever had the displeasure
 to mess with.  Even if  you install the precompiled binary it doesn't
 work...and it even produces  unknown symbol messages for two of its own
 modules (minix.o and sysv.o)!  To  add insult to injury, it doesn't
 even recognize that it has its own pcmcia  modules like i82365 and ds.
 They are CLEARLY extant right where they are  supposed to be but the
 kernel complains that they do not exist when trying to  start pcmcia!
 Gee-aaw!   Building it myself in various ways didn't fix the  minix.o
 and sysv.o symbol problem and it certainly didn't do jack for pcmcia
 or sound.

 The whole reason I have been wanting to get past the 2.4.8-26mdk 8.1
 kernel  is because it doesn't work with my soundcard...a simple, old,
 never-changing  ess solo1.  This worked with with all the 2.2.x kernels
 and with 2.4.13, just  not with 2.4.8 or 2.4.17.

 I'm getting real irate about the whole damn thing after dicking with
 this and  that, trashing my system totally (the 2.4.17 kernels in any
 form installed on  my system broke it so badly that it was easier to
 reinstall from scratch than  to try to untangle the mess.

 praedor

 On Thursday 24 January 2002 14:27, you wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:17:12 -0800 (PST)

 Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to
 ponder:
  OK, when I got a usable 8.1 system with
  kernel-2.4.8-26mdk running, I decided to try one more
  time with kerne-2.4.17.8.  This time, instead of doing
  a source build I just installed the binary and
  rebooted.  It booted up and...jus as with my own build
  attempts, pcmcia failed miserablely and sound was
  dead.

 [little snip]

 Praedor,

 I don't mean to pour salt into an open wound, but have you considered
 that there just might be hardware issues here and that it's not the
 software? PCMCIA is some of the most notoriously miserable technology
 when it doesn't work right. Even on a windows machine that will
 normally any old POS that you throw at it.

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Re: [expert] ISP setup

2002-01-24 Thread Effendy Kho

Yes,
and very simple using linux,
You need a pc with multi serial card if more than 2 modem/lines are required 
(such as Cyclades http://www.cyclades.com), plug some modems.
Set a dialup server (using portslave, http://www.linuxrouter.org) 
Set a gateway (dedicated line) to Internet.
Then the users can dialup to your linux box and do as they do with ISPs.
The other solution if just want to update patient, you can use smsgateway 
such as alamin (http://www.alamin.org) so updating and retrieving patient 
status using handphone's sms.

Regards,

Ase


On Friday 25 January 2002 08:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My employer is considering getting ISP access for the 50 or so laptop users
 to update patient info each night. Seems it might be cheaper to setup a
 linux box and make the ISP themselves. Can this be done? What would be
 needed? A pointer to a how to would be great. thanks
 rob

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Re: [expert] ISP setup

2002-01-24 Thread Randy Kramer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My employer is considering getting ISP access for the 50 or so laptop users to 
update patient info each night. Seems it might be cheaper to setup a linux box and 
make the ISP themselves. Can this be done? What would be needed? A pointer to a how 
to would be great.

We can make some assumptions, but you need to tell us more.  Where will
these 50 laptop users be -- at their homes or in the same building as
the patients (and the computer storing the patient records)?

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[expert] Nautilus and Evolution questions

2002-01-24 Thread Salvatore Enrico Indiogine

Greetings!

I like Nautilus (1.0.4) and Evolution (1.0.1) both very much, however a
couple of things really bother me.  I have looked at the documentation
and tried all sorts of preferences settings.

1. When you insert and mount a CD Nautilus starts.  How can I avoid
this?

2. Both Nautilus and Evolution display time as AM/PM even though I
configured Evolution to use 24hr.  Where can you configure Evolution and
Nautilus to display in 24hr?

Thanks!


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Re: [expert] ISP setup

2002-01-24 Thread NDPTAL85

On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 08:17  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My employer is considering getting ISP access for the 50 or so laptop 
 users to update patient info each night. Seems it might be cheaper to 
 setup a linux box and make the ISP themselves. Can this be done? What 
 would be needed? A pointer to a how to would be great.
 thanks
 rob

 HTTP://linuxlaunchpad.net


Could you explain what kind of company you work for and a little more 
detail into what you and your co-workers do?





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[expert] How to unsubscrib from this mailing?

2002-01-24 Thread irwan . setia


From: Irwan Setia


Anyboday can help?

Thanks





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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My employer is considering getting ISP access for the 50 or so laptop
users to update patient info each night. Seems it might be cheaper to setup
a linux box and make the ISP themselves. Can this be done? What would be
needed? A pointer to a how to would be great.

We can make some assumptions, but you need to tell us more.  Where will
these 50 laptop users be -- at their homes or in the same building as
the patients (and the computer storing the patient records)?

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Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?

2002-01-24 Thread D. R. Evans

Thanks for the recommendations for programs to record audio.

So far (about three hours) I can't get any of them to work, but I'll 
keep on trying. mpegrec (in its wavrec guise) looked like it was 
oging to work, but it never actually wrote anything to disk. The others 
just entirely killed sound that had previously worked.

The Linux sound HOWTO just says (basically) to copy /dev/audio or 
/dev/dsp, but neither of those do anything useful at all :-(

I guess that my embarrassingly simple question isn't really 
embarrassingly simple at all.

Everything else to do with sound seems to work fine (I can play CDs, 
listen to WAV or MP3 files or grab RealAudio off the Web). So I'm sure 
it isn't anything silly like a fundamental configuration problem. It 
may, of course, be a fundamental lack of understanding problem :-)

I remember way back in LM 7.0 getting sound to work using sox without 
any trouble. But things are obviously more complicated these days. 
artsdsp rec output.wav produces a file with a WAV header, but nothing 
else.

  Doc Evans



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Re: [expert] How to unsubscrib from this mailing?

2002-01-24 Thread Mario Michael da Costa

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: Irwan Setia
 
 Anyboday can help?
 
 Thanks
 

Hello Irwan,
did anybody help you to get suscribed to this list in the first place
?

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Re: [expert] Tyan Mobo dual AMD

2002-01-24 Thread J. Grant

Hello

It was a Geforce 2 by some cheap company, i now have a geforce3 from 
ELSA that works well, i dont know about adaptec, maybe you should 
contact them about that..?

IDE cdrom booted, but locked up half way thu loading installer, cdr was 
fine, and new cdrs did not work either, maybe a dma issue.

If tyan provided good support i would be able to give you answers 
instead of guessing. You know who to talk to about that then.. :) Or 
vote with your money if they do not.

JG

Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote:

 Hi, Grant.
 
   It was almost exactly what I'd like to hear.  The drawbacks.
 
 From which you pointed out, I'd like to hear more about item 4, 5 and 6.
 
 Like, which 3D-graphic card worked with tyan? Why Adaptec is problematic
 in Tyan mobo?  None IDE cdrom worked? That's really bad.
 
   Thank you too Kayaturk.
 
   This desired cluster is planned only to do computational
 calculations, specially in parallel.  So we do not need much, however, at
 least one node has to have any peripheral working well.
 
 
 On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, J. Grant wrote:
 
 
I would like to add something.

Once you get it working its good, until then you will have problems,
like what I had.

1. Poor support from tyan.
2. No APM support.
3. Poor bios controls, and crazy cpu temp display (that defaults to 75C
till you press an arrow key!)
4. Poor AGP support, i had to change gfx cards in Linux.
5. Poor SCSI support, Adaptec card that worked fine on other PC refused
to work in this one.
6. IDE CDROMS unable to work (3 tested)





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Re: [expert] How to unsubscrib from this mailing?

2002-01-24 Thread irwan . setia


From: Irwan Setia

No I did it myself, now I want to stop it on this email address

Thanks




Mario Michael da Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED]@controlnet.co.in on
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Re: [expert] How to unsubscrib from this mailing?

2002-01-24 Thread Brian Parish

Irony is obviously not going to work here, so let's try information
instead ;-)

Go to: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3

You can remove yourself there.

On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 16:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: Irwan Setia
 
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Re: [expert] Japanese input in KDE

2002-01-24 Thread J. Grant

Hello!

Well, I tried your sugestion and everything for JA* as well

UTF-8 does not work with mandrake and kinput (when using en_GB or ja_*), 
i could not get it to write anything. I set up KDE each time as well.

Now i changed it to that i can write in KDE, but that is limited to EUC

Mozilla can convert to UTF-8 which i use in emails mainly. Until the 
next mandrake release, or if someone writes a doc. Idealy Mandrake would 
have a way to see up different users in different languages, OS X has 
this, I do not know for windows.

JG

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Re: [expert] /etc is for miscellaneous files?

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Felix Miata« am 2002-01-24 um 14:31:28 -0500 :
 Randy Kramer wrote:
  
  Tom Badran wrote:
 
I read in the Linux Pocketbook that /etc is for miscellaneous files.
It's only for config files isn't it?  Does anyone know the significance of the 
name /etc (why not /config?)?
  
  My guess (absolutely just a guess) would be from etc. (et cetera).
 
 Perfect guess. Everything non-binary that doesn't belong elsewhere.

What about /usr/local/share for non-binaries?

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