RE: [expert] Beta 4 - Bad XFree Package

[Tony S. Sykes]

I didn't have a bad package, but it did not detect my GF4 for some
reason. I had to work in console and install the nvidia drivers from the
command line (for instructions go to http://mdkxp.by-a.com/). This looks
like an xfree86 problem to me. Same happened on beta3 as well.

Tony.

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From: Joan Tur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [expert] Beta 4 - Bad XFree Package


Es Dimarts 03 Setembre 2002 22:01, en Damian G va escriure:
> On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:20:28 +0200
>
> Joan Tur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Es Dimarts 03 Setembre 2002 20:34, en Robert Barry va escriure:
> > > When trying to install Beta4 I get an error message
> > > saying that XFree86 is a bad package.
> > >
> > > I've tried downloading the ISO for CD#1 from 2
> > > different mirrors and I get the same error message.
> >
> > Does the checksum match?  8-?
> >
> > --
> >   Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain
>
> ..it's amazing.. every time a downloaded mandrake
> installation CD is corrupted.. it boots, it asks
> the questions.. it begins the installation..
>
> ..and fails to install X.
>
> seems to happen every time ;oP
>
> (it happened to me too with 7.2)
>
> Damian
I've downloaded 2 corrupted 9b3 ISOs, 1 corrupted 9b4 ISO and all 3
corrupted 
rc1 ISOs (last time it was a 9b4 hang!!)  ;)

Do you understand now my question?!  ;)
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Re: [expert] User ID 8 character limit

[Albert E. Whale]

Mark Weaver wrote:

> Albert E. Whale wrote:
> > How do I eliminate the 8 character User ID on LM 8.2?
> >
> > --
> > Albert E. Whale - CISSP
>
> Albert,
>
> I can't help but ask...why in the world would you wish to do so. That
> limitation is part of the system design. Just how many characters did
> you plan on needing per username? most systems I know of, including
> WinNT, Win2K, Novell Netware, and all the *nix systems I've ever seen
> typically use a 3 character username schema.
>
> Mark

Mark,

I am a *nix Advocate, and I've worked in this environment for more than 17
years.  Most recently I am converting from more of a Hands on Administrator to
Enterprise Management and Security.

I have never seen this (ahem) 'DOS' Limitation imposed before.  In my mind the
limitation I am used to seeing in the Commercial Unix environment is 128
characters, and in some points I believe the Limits were stated at 1024
characters.

While I have never needed a Login Id of this magnitude, I must pause and
reflect in this day and age of DOS (Denial of Service) attacks which are aimed
at buffer overflows.  If the Login Buffer is allocated for 1024 characters
(maximize the space for an actual id), how is it possible to overflow this
field?

I digress, I am still wondering if the fix is in the PAM Modules.

ANyone had a chance to review the information while I travel to the customer
site?
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Re: [expert] Mounting windows partition on rescue mode.

[ed tharp]

On Tuesday 03 September 2002 11:52 pm, you wrote:
> If I understand correctly the windows partition will be mounted in
> /mnt/mnt/windows (it will mount it in the same position as it would have
> been if you were booted straight from the hdd. )  If not typing
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/hdxx /mnt/mnt/windows
>
> where xx is the driveletter and partition number of your windows
> partition.  The reason you can't copy to /mnt without leaving linux is
> because the / directory of your HDD is mounted there.
>
> James
>
> On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 19:51, gonfer gas wrote:
> > I've had trouble with the upgrade to mdk 9.0 beta 4,
> > so lilo doesn't work. I need to backup my files from
> > the /home, but the only way that i have access to them
> > is using the rescue from the cd1. I need to know how
> > can i mount the windows partition, because i tried to
> > but it makes like a "virtual Mount", that is, i see
> > the files from /home, but not the ones from
> > /mnt/windows. If i try to copy files to /mnt/windows,
> > it copies to my linux partition. It like they never
> > leave linux.
> > hope you can help me,
> > greet.
> > Gonzalo Avaria
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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gee, as I understand it, and I may be wrong, but would your problem be 
cleared up if you (after booting into rescue mode from the cd) "/sbin/lilo" 
without the quotes? have you tried? have you tried to copy to 
"/mnt/win_c/windows"? 



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[expert] a stooooooooopid question

[Mark Weaver]

Hi list,

Ok...I've been a wrackin my poor brain for the last few hours and burnin 
up the Google search engine trying to find the answer to this question, 
but I just can't find the answer and I can't remember the correct 
command line syntax to save my forgetful life this morning.

I'm trying to remember the correct manner in which to represent 
whitespace in filenames on the command line in a bash shell. Could some 
kind soul help me with this?

thanks,

Mark
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Re: [expert] a stooooooooopid question

[Wolfgang Bornath]

On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 12:31 -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> Ok...I've been a wrackin my poor brain for the last few hours and burnin 
> up the Google search engine trying to find the answer to this question, 
> but I just can't find the answer and I can't remember the correct 
> command line syntax to save my forgetful life this morning.
> 
> I'm trying to remember the correct manner in which to represent 
> whitespace in filenames on the command line in a bash shell. Could some 
> kind soul help me with this?

You are in good company. Even our former Chancellor Mr. Kohl admitted
that he had a "Balck Out" aome time!

cp 'black out.txt' >> 'chancellor kohl.txt'

In case you are using already the single quotes you can use the double
quotes as well.

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Re: [expert] a stooooooooopid question

[Woody Green]

Also:

cp black\ out.txt >> chancellor\ kohl.txt

 Woody

On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 04:59, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 12:31 -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > Ok...I've been a wrackin my poor brain for the last few hours and burnin 
> > up the Google search engine trying to find the answer to this question, 
> > but I just can't find the answer and I can't remember the correct 
> > command line syntax to save my forgetful life this morning.
> > 
> > I'm trying to remember the correct manner in which to represent 
> > whitespace in filenames on the command line in a bash shell. Could some 
> > kind soul help me with this?
> 
> You are in good company. Even our former Chancellor Mr. Kohl admitted
> that he had a "Balck Out" aome time!
> 
> cp 'black out.txt' >> 'chancellor kohl.txt'
> 
> In case you are using already the single quotes you can use the double
> quotes as well.
> 
> wobo
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RE: [expert] a stooooooooopid question

[Adriaan . Putter]

> -Original Message-
> From: Wolfgang Bornath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:00 PM
> To: expert list
> Subject: Re: [expert] a stopid question
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 12:31 -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > Ok...I've been a wrackin my poor brain for the last few 
> hours and burnin 
> > up the Google search engine trying to find the answer to 
> this question, 
> > but I just can't find the answer and I can't remember the correct 
> > command line syntax to save my forgetful life this morning.
> > 
> > I'm trying to remember the correct manner in which to represent 
> > whitespace in filenames on the command line in a bash 
> shell. Could some 
> > kind soul help me with this?
> 
> You are in good company. Even our former Chancellor Mr. Kohl admitted
> that he had a "Balck Out" aome time!
> 
> cp 'black out.txt' >> 'chancellor kohl.txt'
> 

can you also use
$ cp black\ out.txt >> chancellor\ kohl.txt

???

thanks

adriaan

PS: haven't got a box to test



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Re: [expert] User ID 8 character limit

[Woody Green]

Although the system should not complain if you use more that eight
characters for a username, I recommend against it because many of the
utilities get agitated with more than eight characters.  Odd bits of
behavior that may occur include clipping of characters over eight and
failure to recognize and resolve the name to an actual UID.

What I recommend is to keep usernames of eight characters or less and
then use email aliases for your firstinitlastname@domain.  The school I
went to ages ago resolved this by using the first four of your last name
and the first four of your first name.  With the occasional rare
exception of a duplicate pattern, which would be handled on a
case-by-case basis, it worked well.

At work I use a first initial, last name combination also, but truncate
at eight characters.  I also add in several aliases for each users email
which include first initial, and full last name@domain, username@domain,
and firstname.lastname@domain.  Aliases are easy to setup.

On an offshoot, I have encountered systems which HARD limit usernames
AND passwords to eight characters.  SCO comes to mind.


 Woody


On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 21:48, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Albert 
> 
>   I actually do need more than 8.  You see our logins are often used in
> conjunction with e-mail 1st initial and last name... In my case that's
> 11 letters.  One guy at work has a 16 letter last name.  So yes without
> being unreasonable the 8 letter limit does cause some problems. I wish I
> knew how to get past the limit myself.  Although everything I've tried
> hasn't worked.  (Nor have I tried that hard yet)  
> 
> James
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 20:26, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > Albert E. Whale wrote:
> > > How do I eliminate the 8 character User ID on LM 8.2?
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Albert E. Whale - CISSP
> > 
> > Albert,
> > 
> > I can't help but ask...why in the world would you wish to do so. That 
> > limitation is part of the system design. Just how many characters did 
> > you plan on needing per username? most systems I know of, including 
> > WinNT, Win2K, Novell Netware, and all the *nix systems I've ever seen 
> > typically use a 3 character username schema.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Password Limit on 8.2

[Woody Green]

While this is vaguely phrased (your subject implies a password length
limit, but your email body implies a username limit), I will mention
that I have been using god-awful long passwords in various Linux
distributions including MDK since 1996.  I have seen certain limits on
usernames at eight characters, but not passwords.  Personally I use no
less than 10 characters in any of my passwords.

While you can use more than eight characters for a username, you will
find as in the case of your pop server that it may be code limited at
eight in some support utilities and that the install program may have
simply been trying to save you grief by imposing that limit too.  Using
the adduser command, I believe, does not impose the eight character
restriction.

 Woody

On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 14:03, Albert E. Whale wrote:
> I have encountered a limit of 8 characters when defining New Users.
> Since this is only one of the many Systems (most of which are Mandrake)
> I manage, I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem.
> 
> On RedHat I had authentication issues for the pop server which were
> corrected with changes to the /etc/pam.d/pop file.  Has anyone resolved
> this problem yet?
> 
> 
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> Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant
> Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] a stooooooooopid question

[Wolfgang Bornath]

On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 13:19 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > From: Wolfgang Bornath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > cp 'black out.txt' >> 'chancellor kohl.txt'
> > 
> 
> can you also use
> $ cp black\ out.txt >> chancellor\ kohl.txt

You can use both, just tested it. For me the version with quotes is
easier because I have to use the AltGr key to get a backslash (German
layout).
But you *cannot* use the '>>' there.

It's cp 'one two' 'three four'

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Re: [expert] Password Limit on 8.2

[Mark Weaver]

Woody Green wrote:
> While this is vaguely phrased (your subject implies a password length
> limit, but your email body implies a username limit), I will mention
> that I have been using god-awful long passwords in various Linux
> distributions including MDK since 1996.  I have seen certain limits on
> usernames at eight characters, but not passwords.  Personally I use no
> less than 10 characters in any of my passwords.

Woody,

you can "use" as many as you want to, however, the system only 
recognizes and uses the first 8 characters of the string, so you're 
typing extra characters that aren't even being used.

Mark





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Re: [expert] User ID 8 character limit

[Mark Weaver]

Albert E. Whale wrote:
 >
 > Mark Weaver wrote:
 >
 >
 >> Albert E. Whale wrote:
 >>
 >>> How do I eliminate the 8 character User ID on LM 8.2?
 >>>
 >>> -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP
 >>
 >> Albert,
 >>
 >> I can't help but ask...why in the world would you wish to do so.
 >> That limitation is part of the system design. Just how many
 >> characters did you plan on needing per username? most systems I
 >> know of, including WinNT, Win2K, Novell Netware, and all the *nix
 >> systems I've ever seen typically use a 3 character username schema.
 >>
 >>
 >> Mark
 >
 >
 > Mark,
 >
 > I am a *nix Advocate, and I've worked in this environment for more
 > than 17 years.  Most recently I am converting from more of a Hands on
 > Administrator to Enterprise Management and Security.
 >
 > I have never seen this (ahem) 'DOS' Limitation imposed before.  In my
 > mind the limitation I am used to seeing in the Commercial Unix
 > environment is 128 characters, and in some points I believe the
 > Limits were stated at 1024 characters.
 >
 > While I have never needed a Login Id of this magnitude, I must pause
 > and reflect in this day and age of DOS (Denial of Service) attacks
 > which are aimed at buffer overflows.  If the Login Buffer is
 > allocated for 1024 characters (maximize the space for an actual id),
 > how is it possible to overflow this field?
 >
 > I digress, I am still wondering if the fix is in the PAM Modules.
 >
 > ANyone had a chance to review the information while I travel to the
 > customer site? -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP

Well then...I defer to your superior length of time in "the way of 
things *nix". That being the case then it seems that per your suggestion 
I would think the logical place to begin looking would be those PAM modules.

The learing never stops...does it? ;)

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Re: [expert] Re: [newbie] Spam

[Praedor Tempus]

Many use spam assassin but I know nothing about it.  I use an app called 
ricochet.  In kmail I create filters for spam that pipe it through ricochet.  
Ricochet analyzes the spam's headers, determines if the email address is 
faked (usually is) and also determines the appropriate abuse contacts for the 
given spam.  It then emails the abuse contacts a nice email complaint 
requesting that the abuse contact stop the spammer/investigate the spam, 
provides the message and all the headers for this to be done, and warns of 
legal remedies if action isn't taken to stop the spammer (all very polite - 
though you can edit the message as you see fit).  

I have all but eliminated much spam, particularly from sex sites and those 
obnoxious BUSINESS PROPOSAL messages.  

I do first test my filters in kmail by having it redirect spam to a spam 
folder so I can check it when it starts filling up to make sure the filters 
are good enough not to mistakenly filter non-spam.  I started doing this with 
new filters because I have accidently sent spam complaints on people that 
shouldn't have been hit.
 
Ricochet is a perl app that can be found at http://vipul.net/ricochet.

praedor

On Tuesday 03 September 2002 06:27 pm, Tim C wrote:
> On September 3, 2002 14:08, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > SPAM
> >
> > We all get it, but is there a good way of dealing with it.
> >
> > Seems to me I would like to be able to set something up in mozilla
> > to send spam to,  which either redirects it back to them,  or zaps it.
> >
> > Is there anyway of doing this.
> >
> > John
>
> Here's the best solution I've found so far:
>
> http://spamassassin.org



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Re: [expert] Mounting windows partition on rescue mode.

[gonfer gas]

 --- ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On
Tuesday 03 September 2002 11:52 pm, you wrote:
> > If I understand correctly the windows partition
> will be mounted in
> > /mnt/mnt/windows (it will mount it in the same
> position as it would have
> > been if you were booted straight from the hdd. ) 
> If not typing
> >
> > mount -t vfat /dev/hdxx /mnt/mnt/windows
> >


It's ok, i've solved the problem, and used the last
line you wrote, thanks for the help

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[expert] X display resolution problem

[gonfer gas]

Hi you guys, i've a problem on starting X. On boot, it
load linux ok, but when X is started, it "sounds" like
it's loading it but after a little, it goes to
console. Tried to Xf86conf but it doesn't work. so,
how can i change resolution of X to load linux??
that's all, see ya...


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[expert] kde3 language module problem

[Andrea Fabris]

I found a strange problem on my kde 3.0.2 (and 3.0.3) installation form kde

In the language setting of kcm (the kde control panel) there is no more the
charachter set selection!
I tried to use the "euro" symbol under the kde3 system but it doesn't work
(nor displayed or inserted in kde3 applications) while in othe gnoe and X
application it's all ok.
In kde2.2.2 og mdk8.2 it worked, i don't know now what's going on.. :((

It seems like in kde3 the charset it's bolcked on iso8859-1 so the euro
symbol isn't displayed..

Anyone has some clue?

Thanx
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Re: [expert] User ID 8 character limit

[Mark Weaver]

James Sparenberg wrote:
> Albert 
> 
>   I actually do need more than 8.  You see our logins are often used in
> conjunction with e-mail 1st initial and last name... In my case that's
> 11 letters.  One guy at work has a 16 letter last name.  So yes without
> being unreasonable the 8 letter limit does cause some problems. I wish I
> knew how to get past the limit myself.  Although everything I've tried
> hasn't worked.  (Nor have I tried that hard yet)  
> 
> James

Well then...I stand humbly corrected.

Mark





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RE: [expert] X display resolution problem

[Tony S. Sykes]

Did this start after a 9.0beta install?

-Original Message-
From: gonfer gas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 3:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] X display resolution problem


Hi you guys, i've a problem on starting X. On boot, it
load linux ok, but when X is started, it "sounds" like
it's loading it but after a little, it goes to
console. Tried to Xf86conf but it doesn't work. so,
how can i change resolution of X to load linux??
that's all, see ya...


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[expert] kernel-souce and kernel-headers version numbers does not match

[ddc_prueba]

I had some problems installing NVIDIA-kernel, so I did "rpm -e " and
removed it. But now I cannot compile the kernel as it says:

No module raid0 found for kernel 2.4.18-8.1mdk_6

I have found in web-searching that when doing a rpm -e to NVIDIA-kernel
"it removes some files it shouldn't" so I guess that's my problem. But
when I go to fetch kernel-source an kernel-headers from rpmfind I see
that version/revision numbers does NOT match at all!!! For example, in
cooker there are 2.4.19 kernel-source but no kernel-headers  !!??!!??

Can any one tell me why version numbers does not match? Which pairs turn
out in a correct and complete kernel sources?

Thanx in advance.



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strange things (I have 2 messages from that day while usually I get
about 30...)

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Re: [expert] kernel-souce and kernel-headers version numbers does not match

[Charles A Edwards]

On 03 Sep 2002 22:10:46 +0200
ddc_prueba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can any one tell me why version numbers does not match? Which pairs
> turn out in a correct and complete kernel sources?

Kernel headers are now provided by the glibc source.
The 'version' of the kernel-headers.rpm is therefore based upon the
kernel which was used to compile glibc Not upon your installed kernel.


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Re: [expert] a stooooooooopid question

[Mark Weaver]

Woody Green wrote:
> Also:
> 
> cp black\ out.txt >> chancellor\ kohl.txt
> 
>  Woody

Ok...lets have a show of hands here. How many hard-core Unix system 
heads have we here with 10 or more years of experience. I'm starting to 
feel as though there is a vast chache of untapped knowledge lurking in 
the shadows.

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Re: [expert] X display resolution problem

[HoytDuff]

On Wednesday 04 September 2002 10:45 am, Tony S. Sykes scribbled in crayon on 
a yellow legal pad:

> how can i change resolution of X to load linux??
> that's all, see ya...
>
>
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/troubles/index.html

That should provide some tools to troubleshoot the problem.

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Re: [expert] beta testing messages

[Bjarne Thomsen]

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I actually think that it is
a good idea to use the cooker list. Only, I have not done so,
as I do not consider myself as a developer.

I tried to subscribe to the cooker list about 20 hours ago,
but I have not yet gotten any email message back.

Should I try again?

 -- Bjarne Thomsen


On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 03:29, Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 17:13, Bjarne Thomsen wrote:
> 
> > Maybe you should read your own web-page:
> > 3) If you are quite new to this whole Linux/UNIX(TM) thing, you can
> > report bugs by submitting them to MandrakeExpert -- just cite 'Mandrake
> > Linux 9.0 beta1' as the product version.
> 
> Maybe you should re-read the page or read it properly.  MandrakeExpert
> is not *this* mailing list.  To save you the trouble of trying to figure
> it out, go to http://www.mandrakeexpert.com/.  Nowhere on that website
> will you see that this mailing list is in any way affiliated with or an
> extension of the MandrakeExpert website, which is cited in "my" web
> page.
> 
> > By the way, I have been unable to subscribe to the cooker list:
> > the server does not react by returning an email.
> 
> When did you try?
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RE: [expert] X display resolution problem

[gonfer gas]

 --- "Tony S. Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


> Did this start after a 9.0beta install?
 

>> how can i change resolution of X to load linux??
>> that's all, see ya...
 


YES... i've installed beta 4.

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Re: [expert] Mandrakelinux 9.0 RC1 and P4B533 MB

[Bjarne Thomsen]

Hi Tom,

I found the following answer from Alan Cox to a question on
the kernel mailing list. It looks as if he has a patch for the
standard 2.4.19 kernel. What I would like to know is, if
Mandrake soft is planning to make a similar modification for
their kernel. Please, find below the output from the commands
that you requested.

 -- Bjarne

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 13:45, Andrew Halliwell wrote:
> The P4B533 has the intel 801DB IDE controller (stated as supported in
rc1)
> but in every 2.4 kernel I've seen so far, this appears in the bootup.
>
> Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
> ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
> PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086,
DID=24cb
> PCI: Device 00:1f.1 not available because of resource collisions
> PCI_IDE: (ide_setup_pci_device:) Could not enable device

Blame your BIOS vendor

The -ac tree has workarounds for the BIOS forgetting to set up the chip.
Let me know if rc1-ac7 works for you.


cat /proc/interrupts:
   CPU0   
  0:   11650099  XT-PIC  timer
  1: 100563  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
  9:1348969  XT-PIC  eth0, CMI8738-MC6
 11:8795736  XT-PIC  nvidia
 12:1074858  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
 14:4800292  XT-PIC  ide0
 15: 19  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0 
LOC:   11650229 
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host
Bridge (rev 11)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge
(rev 11)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 24c2 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 24c4 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 24c7 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 24cd (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 24c0 (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB ICH4 IDE (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX]
(rev b2)
02:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev
10)
02:0c.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]
(rev 74)

lspcidrake:
unknown : Intel Corporation|82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host
Bridge
unknown : Intel Corporation|82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP
Bridge
usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82801DB USB Controller
usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82801DB USB Controller
usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82801DB USB Controller
ehci-hcd: Intel Corporation|82801DB USB Enhanced Controller
unknown : Intel Corporation|82820 815e (Camino 2) Chipset PCI
unknown : Intel Corporation|82801DB 845G/GL Chipset ISA Bridge
(ICH4)
unknown : Intel Corporation|82801DB 845G/GL Chipset IDE
Controller
Card:NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic): nVidia Corporation|NV11 (Geforce2
MX)
snd-cmipci  : C-Media Electronics Inc|CM8738
3c59x   : 3Com Corporation|3c905C-TX [Fast Etherlink]

# hdparm -i /dev/hdb1

/dev/hdb1:
 HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument

# hdparm -v /dev/hdb1

/dev/hdb1:
 multcount= 16 (on)
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  0 (off)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead=  8 (on)
 geometry = 9732/255/63, sectors = 156344517, start = 63



On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 03:19, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Monday September 2 2002 11:50 pm, Bjarne Thomsen wrote:
> > Does anybody know a solution to this problem:
> >
> > dmesg:
> > Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
> > ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> > idebus=xx
> > ICH4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev f9
> > PCI: Device 00:1f.1 not available because of resource collisions
> 
>   results from 'cat /proc/interrupts', 'lspci' and 'lspcidrake' ?
> 
> > ICH4: (ide_setup_pci_device:) Could not enable device.
> >
> > on an Asus P4B533 MB?
> > The speed of the harddisks is about 3 Mb/s, and
> > kupdated sucs up CPU time. It is evidently in PIO mode.
> 
>   what does 'hdparm -i /dev/hdx' and hdparm -v /dev/hdx' say?
> 
> -- 
> Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Mandrakelinux 9.0 RC1 and P4B533 MB

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wednesday September 4 2002 12:08 pm, Bjarne Thomsen wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> I found the following answer from Alan Cox to a question on
> the kernel mailing list. It looks as if he has a patch for the
> standard 2.4.19 kernel. What I would like to know is, if
> Mandrake soft is planning to make a similar modification for
> their kernel. Please, find below the output from the commands
> that you requested.
>
>  -- Bjarne

   Look below for my comments. You'll probly haft'a ask Mdk for an 
answer to your question. Maybe Vincent D  will reappear with what's 
allowed ?  or you can try on the cooker list and/or archive ;)  I've 
avoided Intel chipsets since they ceased the BX, IOW's i8, so 
I can't be much help.

> On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 13:45, Andrew Halliwell wrote:
> > The P4B533 has the intel 801DB IDE controller (stated as supported
> > in
>
> rc1)
>
> > but in every 2.4 kernel I've seen so far, this appears in the
> > bootup.
> >
> > Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
> > ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
>
> idebus=xx

33 is correct, read 'ide.txt' for more info, it's at 
/usr/src/linux-/Documentation/ide.txt

> > PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086,
>
> DID=24cb
>
> > PCI: Device 00:1f.1 not available because of resource collisions
> > PCI_IDE: (ide_setup_pci_device:) Could not enable device
>
> Blame your BIOS vendor
>
> The -ac tree has workarounds for the BIOS forgetting to set up the
> chip. Let me know if rc1-ac7 works for you.
>
>
> cat /proc/interrupts:
>CPU0
>   0:   11650099  XT-PIC  timer
>   1: 100563  XT-PIC  keyboard
>   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
>   8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
>   9:1348969  XT-PIC  eth0, CMI8738-MC6

   Whenever you see items on one line separated by a comma, they're 
sharing the IRQ, potential conflict. Can you try moving your 3Com card 
to a different slot?  Caution, avoid the 1st pci slot (the one next to 
the AGP slot) if possible, it already shares the AGP IRQ. I'm asuming 
your Cmedia is integrated.

   

> snd-cmipci  : C-Media Electronics Inc|CM8738
> 3c59x   : 3Com Corporation|3c905C-TX [Fast Etherlink]
>
> # hdparm -i /dev/hdb1
>
> /dev/hdb1:
>  HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument

Not quite right, you're tryin a partition, use

  'hdparm -i /dev/hdb'   to access the drive's firmware

> # hdparm -v /dev/hdb1
>
> /dev/hdb1:
>  multcount= 16 (on)
>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
>  unmaskirq=  0 (off)
>  using_dma=  0 (off)
>  keepsettings =  0 (off)
>  readonly =  0 (off)
>  readahead=  8 (on)
>  geometry = 9732/255/63, sectors = 156344517, start = 63

Here again, a simple 'hparm -v /dev/hdb' is all that's required. 
The '1' you added was ignored.  It shows tho that neither 32bit, or DMA 
are enabled.
>
> On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 03:19, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > On Monday September 2 2002 11:50 pm, Bjarne Thomsen wrote:

> > > on an Asus P4B533 MB?
> > > The speed of the harddisks is about 3 Mb/s, and
> > > kupdated sucs up CPU time. It is evidently in PIO mode.

   ... and yes it's in PIO mode. hdparm -t should be much better, at 
least 10mb/sec for a 5400rpm ata/33 drive.  ata/100, 7200rpm or better 
should get ~40mb+/sec.  You could try usin 'hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/hdb'
  -c1 turns on 32bit, -d1 turns on DMA.   BUT, I suggest you do some 
research first. I vaguely remember that there's issues with DMA and 
i8xx chips, probly why the drive wasn't optimized to begin with.  I 
suspect it maybe a Mdk or kernel work-around.  Sorry I can't be of more 
help.
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[expert] using Highpoint RAID as regular IDE controller

[Mark Stewart]

Hey all,

I've got a mainboard equipped with a Highpoint 372 IDE RAID controller that
I'd like to use simply as an extra IDE controller (i.e. not hardware RAID.)
If I can get this to work I plan on creating a soft RAID setup between it
and a (non-boot) partition on my primary controller. I had considered simply
using the secondary controller but I really need to have a CDROM drive on
one of the channels and the docs I've read on soft RAID indicate this will
really kill performance.

If I turn on RAID support in BIOS the 8.2 installer hangs up right after
detecting the controller. If I leave it off DiskDrake (during and after the
install) doesn't appear to see the controller or the disk attached to it.

I'm guessing I may need to provide some arguments to the boot loader but
haven't been able to figure out what they ought to be.

My board is an Abit NV7-133R, an nForce 415-D chipset, but Abit has a few
other boards with the same Highpoint controlller that use non-Nvidia
chipsets.

Anyone have any ideas?

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[expert] Xfree 4.2 & 3.36 crash during installation -- Test X

[Les]

hi

Mandrake 9.0 rc1

had matrox mill2 4mb worked perfect with beta 2 & 3.

now upgraded to Gainwood Geforce3 128mb
installer found generic Geforce3
installed 4.2, 3.36 & 3.36 exp .. 3d acceler..
all crash with horizontal white lines when selecting "test X now"

being a GUI junkie,  need help to find where any messages might be that will
help solve this.

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[expert] requests for update 8.0 to 9.?

[hans schneidhofer]

hi list,
if I wanna do an update from 8.0 to 9.? - is it possible or can I only make 
an update from 8.2 to 9.? 

had no problems from 7.0 to 8.0, so now I'm hoping, that it would be possible 
also from 8.0 to 9.?. For shure - I know, I have to wait for the final 
release but some problems like a buggy XFree-Server in 8.0 is one of the 
wishes I have.
My ATI Rage Pro with about 8 MB doesn't match very good with the available 
3.3.6 and 4.0.3 X-Release.

and an update the XFree86-4.2.0 within the 8.0 mdk-release does NOT do the 
trick. The X-Server crashes in the most cases after calling 
"mandrake-control-center" Trying and playing around the Xservers 3.3.6 and 
4.0.3 with or without hardware-support has the same effect - very buggy !

thanks for your answers and ideas
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[expert] MS Exchange Server

[Brian York]

At work our email system is the Microsoft Exchange server
and if you use out look it works fine. Is there any program for linux that I can use to check my mail from the exchange server.

 

Thanks

Brian

Re: [expert] beta testing messages

[Vincent Danen]

On Wednesday, September 4, 2002, at 10:21 AM, Bjarne Thomsen wrote:

> Sorry for the misunderstanding. I actually think that it is
> a good idea to use the cooker list. Only, I have not done so,
> as I do not consider myself as a developer.
>
> I tried to subscribe to the cooker list about 20 hours ago,
> but I have not yet gotten any email message back.
>
> Should I try again?

I would.  I think sympa is on a little bit of an overload, so give it 
another try.

You also don't need to be a developer to subscribe to cooker.

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Re: [expert] User ID 8 character limit

[Albert E. Whale]

Mark Weaver wrote:

> Albert E. Whale wrote:
>  >
>  > Mark Weaver wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >> Albert E. Whale wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> How do I eliminate the 8 character User ID on LM 8.2?
>  >>>
>  >>> -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP
>  >>
>  >> Albert,
>  >>
>  >> I can't help but ask...why in the world would you wish to do so.
>  >> That limitation is part of the system design. Just how many
>  >> characters did you plan on needing per username? most systems I
>  >> know of, including WinNT, Win2K, Novell Netware, and all the *nix
>  >> systems I've ever seen typically use a 3 character username schema.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Mark
>  >
>  >
>  > Mark,
>  >
>  > I am a *nix Advocate, and I've worked in this environment for more
>  > than 17 years.  Most recently I am converting from more of a Hands on
>  > Administrator to Enterprise Management and Security.
>  >
>  > I have never seen this (ahem) 'DOS' Limitation imposed before.  In my
>  > mind the limitation I am used to seeing in the Commercial Unix
>  > environment is 128 characters, and in some points I believe the
>  > Limits were stated at 1024 characters.
>  >
>  > While I have never needed a Login Id of this magnitude, I must pause
>  > and reflect in this day and age of DOS (Denial of Service) attacks
>  > which are aimed at buffer overflows.  If the Login Buffer is
>  > allocated for 1024 characters (maximize the space for an actual id),
>  > how is it possible to overflow this field?
>  >
>  > I digress, I am still wondering if the fix is in the PAM Modules.
>  >
>  > ANyone had a chance to review the information while I travel to the
>  > customer site? -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP
>
> Well then...I defer to your superior length of time in "the way of
> things *nix". That being the case then it seems that per your suggestion
> I would think the logical place to begin looking would be those PAM modules.
>
> The learing never stops...does it? ;)
>
> Mark
>
>   
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Well, if I cannot get the answer, at least I can contribute on how everythig
else works.  Hope that it helps.

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Re: [expert] requests for update 8.0 to 9.?

[James Sparenberg]

Hans,

   I wouldn't recommend doing it as an upgrade from even 8.1 to 8.2 
upgrades tend to cause more problems than they solve.  However if your
/home directory is on a separate partition.  Then re-install to the
/boot / or whatever other partitions you have.  Save off config files
that are really important and can't be easily retyped (httpd config
files samba e-mail aliases etc etc.) and then put them back after the
re-install.  

James


On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 12:16, hans schneidhofer wrote:
> hi list,
> if I wanna do an update from 8.0 to 9.? - is it possible or can I only make 
> an update from 8.2 to 9.? 
> 
> had no problems from 7.0 to 8.0, so now I'm hoping, that it would be possible 
> also from 8.0 to 9.?. For shure - I know, I have to wait for the final 
> release but some problems like a buggy XFree-Server in 8.0 is one of the 
> wishes I have.
> My ATI Rage Pro with about 8 MB doesn't match very good with the available 
> 3.3.6 and 4.0.3 X-Release.
> 
> and an update the XFree86-4.2.0 within the 8.0 mdk-release does NOT do the 
> trick. The X-Server crashes in the most cases after calling 
> "mandrake-control-center" Trying and playing around the Xservers 3.3.6 and 
> 4.0.3 with or without hardware-support has the same effect - very buggy !
> 
> thanks for your answers and ideas
> bye hans
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Mandrakelinux 9.0 RC1 and P4B533 MB

[Bjarne Thomsen]

>   Whenever you see items on one line separated by a comma, they're 
>sharing the IRQ, potential conflict. Can you try moving your 3Com card 
>to a different slot?  Caution, avoid the 1st pci slot (the one next to 
>the AGP slot) if possible, it already shares the AGP IRQ. I'm asuming 
>your Cmedia is integrated.
Yes, Cmedia is integrated. I am moving the Com card to the next
slot tomorrow.


# hdparm -i /dev/hdb

/dev/hdb:

 Model=MAXTOR 6L080L4, FwRev=A93.0500, SerialNo=664218058197
 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=32256, SectSize=21298, ECCbytes=4
 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1819kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=156355584
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
 PIO modes:  pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 
 DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 
 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5 udma6 
 AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
 Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-5 T13 1321D revision 1:  1 2 3 4 5


>   ... and yes it's in PIO mode. hdparm -t should be much better, at 
>least 10mb/sec for a 5400rpm ata/33 drive.  ata/100, 7200rpm or better 
>should get ~40mb+/sec.  You could try usin 'hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/hdb'
>  -c1 turns on 32bit, -d1 turns on DMA.   BUT, I suggest you do some 
>research first. I vaguely remember that there's issues with DMA and 
>i8xx chips, probly why the drive wasn't optimized to begin with.  I 
>suspect it maybe a Mdk or kernel work-around.  Sorry I can't be of more
> help
No, until I know more about this problem I am not going to turn on
DMA. I did download and update to the latest BIOS.

Thank you!

 -- Bjarne


On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 20:21, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Wednesday September 4 2002 12:08 pm, Bjarne Thomsen wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I found the following answer from Alan Cox to a question on
> > the kernel mailing list. It looks as if he has a patch for the
> > standard 2.4.19 kernel. What I would like to know is, if
> > Mandrake soft is planning to make a similar modification for
> > their kernel. Please, find below the output from the commands
> > that you requested.
> >
> >  -- Bjarne
> 
>Look below for my comments. You'll probly haft'a ask Mdk for an 
> answer to your question. Maybe Vincent D  will reappear with what's 
> allowed ?  or you can try on the cooker list and/or archive ;)  I've 
> avoided Intel chipsets since they ceased the BX, IOW's i8, so 
> I can't be much help.
> 
> > On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 13:45, Andrew Halliwell wrote:
> > > The P4B533 has the intel 801DB IDE controller (stated as supported
> > > in
> >
> > rc1)
> >
> > > but in every 2.4 kernel I've seen so far, this appears in the
> > > bootup.
> > >
> > > Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
> > > ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> >
> > idebus=xx
> 
> 33 is correct, read 'ide.txt' for more info, it's at 
> /usr/src/linux-/Documentation/ide.txt
> 
> > > PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086,
> >
> > DID=24cb
> >
> > > PCI: Device 00:1f.1 not available because of resource collisions
> > > PCI_IDE: (ide_setup_pci_device:) Could not enable device
> >
> > Blame your BIOS vendor
> >
> > The -ac tree has workarounds for the BIOS forgetting to set up the
> > chip. Let me know if rc1-ac7 works for you.
> >
> >
> > cat /proc/interrupts:
> >CPU0
> >   0:   11650099  XT-PIC  timer
> >   1: 100563  XT-PIC  keyboard
> >   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
> >   8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
> >   9:1348969  XT-PIC  eth0, CMI8738-MC6
> 
>Whenever you see items on one line separated by a comma, they're 
> sharing the IRQ, potential conflict. Can you try moving your 3Com card 
> to a different slot?  Caution, avoid the 1st pci slot (the one next to 
> the AGP slot) if possible, it already shares the AGP IRQ. I'm asuming 
> your Cmedia is integrated.
> 
>
> 
> > snd-cmipci  : C-Media Electronics Inc|CM8738
> > 3c59x   : 3Com Corporation|3c905C-TX [Fast Etherlink]
> >
> > # hdparm -i /dev/hdb1
> >
> > /dev/hdb1:
> >  HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument
> 
> Not quite right, you're tryin a partition, use
> 
>   'hdparm -i /dev/hdb'   to access the drive's firmware
> 
> > # hdparm -v /dev/hdb1
> >
> > /dev/hdb1:
> >  multcount= 16 (on)
> >  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
> >  unmaskirq=  0 (off)
> >  using_dma=  0 (off)
> >  keepsettings =  0 (off)
> >  readonly =  0 (off)
> >  readahead=  8 (on)
> >  geometry = 9732/255/63, sectors = 156344517, start = 63
> 
> Here again, a simple 'hparm -v /dev/hdb' is all that's required. 
> The '1' you added was ignored.  It shows tho that neither 32bit, or DMA 
> are enabled.
> >
> > On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 03:19, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > > On Monday September 2 2002 11:50 pm, Bjarne Thomsen wrote:
> 
> > > > on an Asus P4B533 MB?
> 

[expert] Apache 2.x

[D. R. Evans]

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I need to be running Apache 2.o.40 or later in order to run a subversion 
server. However, I note that even in the SRPMs in the cooker there doesn't 
seem to be anything for Apache 2.x.

Does anyone know if there a reason for the lack of Apache 2.x in the 
cooker SRPMs?

  Doc


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Re: [expert] MS Exchange Server

[David Oberbeck]

Brian,

   See

http://www.ximian.org/products/connector/

HTH,
DGO

On Wednesday 04 September 2002 13:04, Brian York Wrote Thusly:
> At work our email system is the Microsoft Exchange server and if you use
> out look it works fine. Is there any program for linux that I can use to
> check my mail from the exchange server.
>
> Thanks
> Brian

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Re: [expert] a stooooooooopid question

[James Sparenberg]

Over 10 years on computers not always nix (I miss my Amiga *grin*)

James


On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 06:27, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Woody Green wrote:
> > Also:
> > 
> > cp black\ out.txt >> chancellor\ kohl.txt
> > 
> >  Woody
> 
> Ok...lets have a show of hands here. How many hard-core Unix system 
> heads have we here with 10 or more years of experience. I'm starting to 
> feel as though there is a vast chache of untapped knowledge lurking in 
> the shadows.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] beta testing messages

[James Sparenberg]

On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 12:13, Vincent Danen wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, September 4, 2002, at 10:21 AM, Bjarne Thomsen wrote:
> 
> > Sorry for the misunderstanding. I actually think that it is
> > a good idea to use the cooker list. Only, I have not done so,
> > as I do not consider myself as a developer.
> >
> > I tried to subscribe to the cooker list about 20 hours ago,
> > but I have not yet gotten any email message back.
> >
> > Should I try again?
> 
> I would.  I think sympa is on a little bit of an overload, so give it 
> another try.
> 
> You also don't need to be a developer to subscribe to cooker.

The MAJOR requirements I see are broadband to handle the number of
e-mails and really quick eyes to be able to read them all.  Whew. 
haven't seen e-mail fly like this since 7.0 was in beta testing. 
Actually though I think having non coders testing is good.  It prevents
the "Well Everybody knows you have to do that" syndrome from creeping in
and creating a release that the average user can't / won't use. 

James

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Re: [expert] User ID 8 character limit

[James Sparenberg]

Albert,
   I tend to agree with you heartily that the limit is somehow to low
and artificial in nature.  If as another list member stated it's due to
utilities that are unable to handle larger than 8 character strings it's
the first case of what someone was talking about in a lug last month. 
That many of the standard utilities are getting a bit long in the tooth,
and may soon bite us in the backside.  I'm off to a lug tonight let me
ask around and see what people say.  Deborah Sinissiaschalchia will
appreciate the added room (Hope I spelled her name right haven't seen
here since high school, oh so many decades ago.) 

James


On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 03:09, Albert E. Whale wrote:
> 
> 
> Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> > Albert E. Whale wrote:
> > > How do I eliminate the 8 character User ID on LM 8.2?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Albert E. Whale - CISSP
> >
> > Albert,
> >
> > I can't help but ask...why in the world would you wish to do so. That
> > limitation is part of the system design. Just how many characters did
> > you plan on needing per username? most systems I know of, including
> > WinNT, Win2K, Novell Netware, and all the *nix systems I've ever seen
> > typically use a 3 character username schema.
> >
> > Mark
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I am a *nix Advocate, and I've worked in this environment for more than 17
> years.  Most recently I am converting from more of a Hands on Administrator to
> Enterprise Management and Security.
> 
> I have never seen this (ahem) 'DOS' Limitation imposed before.  In my mind the
> limitation I am used to seeing in the Commercial Unix environment is 128
> characters, and in some points I believe the Limits were stated at 1024
> characters.
> 
> While I have never needed a Login Id of this magnitude, I must pause and
> reflect in this day and age of DOS (Denial of Service) attacks which are aimed
> at buffer overflows.  If the Login Buffer is allocated for 1024 characters
> (maximize the space for an actual id), how is it possible to overflow this
> field?
> 
> I digress, I am still wondering if the fix is in the PAM Modules.
> 
> ANyone had a chance to review the information while I travel to the customer
> site?
> --
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> Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] requests for update 8.0 to 9.?

[HoytDuff]

On Wednesday 04 September 2002 03:38 pm, James Sparenberg scribbled in crayon 
on a yellow legal pad:
>I wouldn't recommend doing it as an upgrade from even 8.1 to 8.2
> upgrades tend to cause more problems than they solve.  However if your
> /home directory is on a separate partition.  Then re-install to the
> /boot / or whatever other partitions you have.  Save off config files
> that are really important and can't be easily retyped (httpd config
> files samba e-mail aliases etc etc.) and then put them back after the
> re-install.  

I agree. As well, archive the .kde directory if you use KDE since there are 
some incompatibilities when upgrading to 3.X.

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[expert] sorry :-(

[Michael Holt]

Sorry all about the bounced email you must have received.  The phone 
company came yesterday and installed a second line for our neighbor and in 
the process they managed to make a clean cut in our line!  Consequently, 
by the time we got home and realized what happened and were able to call 
them, they couldn't get out and fix it until today so my email server has 
been down for about 36 hours.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, 
then just ignore this and have a great day!

/mike

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Re: [expert] Mounting windows partition on rescue mode.

[Richard Houser]

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| I've had trouble with the upgrade to mdk 9.0 beta 4,
| so lilo doesn't work. I need to backup my files from
| the /home, but the only way that i have access to them
| is using the rescue from the cd1. I need to know how
| can i mount the windows partition, because i tried to
| but it makes like a "virtual Mount", that is, i see
| the files from /home, but not the ones from
| /mnt/windows. If i try to copy files to /mnt/windows,
| it copies to my linux partition. It like they never
| leave linux.
| hope you can help me,
| greet.
| Gonzalo Avaria
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First off, are you running FAT32 or NTFS for your Windows Partition?  If
NTFS, I strongly suggest you don't continue further on this course.  In
the 2.4 series kernel, the NTFS write support was so bad that it's
actually been completely rewritten for 2.5/2.6 series kernel
development.  On the 2.4's NTFS write capability, you will ALWAYS cause
damage to the filesystem, sometimes critical damage.

Assuming you actually are running FAT32, I suggest you create a tar
archive of your home directory (remember, FAT32 and NTFS don't properly
preserve permissions) and then copy it over.  Use a tool like fdisk
(linux version - or partition magic) to find which partition is your
home directory and then mount it (easiest way is probably going to
rescue, mounting your drives, then going to console, then "chroot /mnt"
then editing your fstab.  At the same time, you should try fixing your
lilo.conf and then running /sbin/lilo and you will probably be all set
to boot again.

I do a lot of work involving lilo and kernel configuration lately, so
I've been through this a few dozen times.  Once you are to the stage
above with the chroot, most all the console utilities on your hard drive
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Re: [expert] beta testing messages

[s]

On Wednesday 04 September 2002 02:21 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:

> > requests for help, but I still stand by my statement that cooker
> > list doesn't need every Tom, Dick and Harry posting what they
> > think are bugs to it.

> cooker.  cooker is not an 3r33t or exclusive list only to people
> that are developers, coders, or technically competent, no matter
> how much easier this would make our lives.

Oh, I was under the impression it was, hence the root of our 
disagreement.  If this statement is accurate, then any further 
discussion is moot.  Have you discussed with warly, pixel or others 
and find they agree?  If so, then please excuse my interference.

> > of the consequences if too many laypersons start posting to
> > cooker.
>
> What consequences are you afraid of?  

Well, as stated earlier, if too many useless, uninformative, false bug 
reports start showing up, then the list may become unavailable for 
the average joe or the developers will move to another list or just 
email directly.  Something like that.  It's an informative list for 
interested parties to lurk on as it is now, but I can imagine it 
becoming chaotic and testing the patience of developers.

> Side-effects not withstanding, posting bug reports (real or
> otherwise) to cooker is much preferred to posting to expert/newbie
> lists and not having the real bugs dealt with.

I hope you're right and it all works out okay.
  
> > I think we should be cautious of telling too many people to do 
>>that.

> I don't.We should
> not discriminate against people because we don't think they are as
> intelligent as you or I, But this is no basis to tell 
>the technically incompetent or misguided to post to an inappropriate 
> list and have some valid reports or missed and/or force developers 
> to spend their time reading a forum they shouldn't have to read in 
> order to do their job.

You make a compelling argument and I even agree to a point, especially 
with making things more difficult for developers.  No one wants that.  
In fact, that was the motivation for my argument as well.   You make 
valid points and are of course in a better position to know. I just 
hope the list doesn't become too congested with useless posts and end 
up wasting time and patience that you too are trying to avoid by 
directing them there.  Our goal is the same, but differ in the 
ideology for implementation.

Thank you,
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Re: [expert] beta testing messages

[Michael Holt]

On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, s uttered these words of wisdom:

>Well, as stated earlier, if too many useless, uninformative, false bug 
>reports start showing up, then the list may become unavailable for 
>the average joe or the developers will move to another list or just 
>email directly.  Something like that.  It's an informative list for 
>interested parties to lurk on as it is now, but I can imagine it 
>becoming chaotic and testing the patience of developers.

You know, about every 6 months this same theme seems to pop up on cooker - 
who should be allowed to post to cooker.  IMHO this thread could die if 
people would just read the Mandrake homepage.  Everytime there is a new 
beta or release candidate, Mandrake announces it and asks for everyone to 
download, try it out and give their opinions - "your participation is 
highly appreciated" is the exact quote.  So how 'bout if we just go with 
that, eh?

Mike

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Re: [expert] Password Limit on 8.2

[Woody Green]

On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 07:08, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Woody,
> 
> you can "use" as many as you want to, however, the system only 
> recognizes and uses the first 8 characters of the string, so you're 
> typing extra characters that aren't even being used.
> 
> Mark

Not true.
 
Since I operate SCO systems which *do* have an eight character password
limit, you would have through I would have noticed as much in Linux as
the first time I setup my password on SCO I noticed it right off.  But
to be safe, I did some testing and best I can tell going back through
two years of RH and MDK Linux, my greater than eight character passwords
have been enforced to their fullest extent.  

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Re: [expert] Apache 2.x

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On 4 Sep 2002 at 23:10, Udo Rader wrote:

> it is in cooker, but you'll find it under contrib.
> 

Ah; thank you. I don't rsync the contrib files, which is why I didn't see 
it. Does the fact that it's only in contrib mean that it is even less safe 
to use than the programs in SRPMs? I worry about installing something that 
might cause me to have to struggle to get back to a working HTTP server if 
the installation blows up in my face.

  Doc


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Re: [expert] a stooooooooopid question

[Benjamin Pflugmann]

Hi.

Well, only about 8 years of UNIX, not 10. And 18(?) years with
computers. Don't know if I would call me a hard-core UNIX head
(I don't like vi, you see? ;-).

On Wed 2002-09-04 at 12:32:52 -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Over 10 years on computers not always nix (I miss my Amiga *grin*)

Well I miss mine, too. Although I kept it, it's only sleeping
all the time in this corner. *pat* *pat*

Bye,

Benjamin.


> On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 06:27, Mark Weaver wrote:
[...]
> > Ok...lets have a show of hands here. How many hard-core Unix system 
> > heads have we here with 10 or more years of experience. I'm starting to 
> > feel as though there is a vast chache of untapped knowledge lurking in 
> > the shadows.
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Re: [expert] MS Exchange Server

[Woody Green]

If your Exchange administrator has POP3 and/or IMAP enabled (default is
enabled) then you can use ANY IMAP or POP3 compatible client with the
caveat that you can only see the mail (IMAP will let you see all of your
mailboxes while POP3 is limited to your Inbox).  No contact or calendar
or tasks.  If you want 'Exchange' support which includes the tasks,
calendar, contacts and such, you need the Ximian connector as mentioned
below, but keep in mind that it is limited in functionality.  Not all
Exchange features are supported yet.

 Woody

On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 15:54, David Oberbeck wrote:
> Brian,
> 
>See
> 
>   http://www.ximian.org/products/connector/
> 
> HTH,
>   DGO
> 
> On Wednesday 04 September 2002 13:04, Brian York Wrote Thusly:
> > At work our email system is the Microsoft Exchange server and if you use
> > out look it works fine. Is there any program for linux that I can use to
> > check my mail from the exchange server.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Brian
> 
> -- 
> 
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> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] beta testing messages

[Vincent Danen]

On Wednesday, September 4, 2002, at 07:59 PM, Michael Holt wrote:

>> Well, as stated earlier, if too many useless, uninformative, false bug
>> reports start showing up, then the list may become unavailable for
>> the average joe or the developers will move to another list or just
>> email directly.  Something like that.  It's an informative list for
>> interested parties to lurk on as it is now, but I can imagine it
>> becoming chaotic and testing the patience of developers.
>
> You know, about every 6 months this same theme seems to pop up on 
> cooker -
> who should be allowed to post to cooker.  IMHO this thread could die if
> people would just read the Mandrake homepage.  Everytime there is a new
> beta or release candidate, Mandrake announces it and asks for everyone 
> to
> download, try it out and give their opinions - "your participation is
> highly appreciated" is the exact quote.  So how 'bout if we just go 
> with
> that, eh?

Exactly.  We can't exactly ask everyone to test and report bugs and 
then arbitrarily decide who to accept bugs from and whom not to.  For 
this reason, cooker will never become a closed list, although there 
probably are some who would rather it be.  But, in my mind, those 
people are selfish and not seeing the overall picture and purpose of 
what cooker, and the betas, are for.

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Re: [expert] beta testing messages

[Vincent Danen]

On Wednesday, September 4, 2002, at 07:33 PM, s wrote:

>> cooker.  cooker is not an 3r33t or exclusive list only to people
>> that are developers, coders, or technically competent, no matter
>> how much easier this would make our lives.
>
> Oh, I was under the impression it was, hence the root of our
> disagreement.  If this statement is accurate, then any further
> discussion is moot.  Have you discussed with warly, pixel or others
> and find they agree?  If so, then please excuse my interference.

I haven't, but common sense should prevail here.  If it is generally 
acceptable for posts on beta testing (comments, problems, questions, 
etc.) to be sent to the MandrakeExpert website, which is in turn 
forwarded to cooker by Alan, why would it be any less acceptable for 
these people to post to cooker directly?  The end result is the same... 
the information is being sent to the cooker list.  What do we eliminate 
by asking people to post to cooker directly?  Congestion on 
MandrakeExpert.  Alan's time by sorting through reports and forwarding 
it to cooker.  What advantages do we see?  A post to cooker can be 
replied to with the submitter able to respond in a timely fashion; the 
developers also see these reports in a timely fashion.  I'm sure Alan 
is forwarding stuff to the list in a timely manner, but unless he is 
monitoring MandrakeExpert 24/7, it's not as fast as it could be.

If this is an acceptable proposition (and it must be according to our 
own website), then cut out the "middle-man", eliminate the 
MandrakeExpert option for reporting bugs, and post to cooker directly 
(the first option on the list of three avenues to report bugs).

For this reason alone, I don't think it's necessary to get some sort of 
"vote" by the developers... the end result is the same, but the method 
of accomplishing it is more efficient.

>>> of the consequences if too many laypersons start posting to
>>> cooker.
>>
>> What consequences are you afraid of?
>
> Well, as stated earlier, if too many useless, uninformative, false bug
> reports start showing up, then the list may become unavailable for
> the average joe or the developers will move to another list or just
> email directly.  Something like that.  It's an informative list for
> interested parties to lurk on as it is now, but I can imagine it
> becoming chaotic and testing the patience of developers.

I don't think this will ever be the case.  The only way the cooker list 
would ever become "non-public" or shut down is if cooker itself went 
non-public.  The simple fact of running an open cooker system as we 
currently do, has it's benefits and drawbacks.  Irrelevant posts is a 
drawback, but not enough to obsolete the whole idea behind cooker.

>> Side-effects not withstanding, posting bug reports (real or
>> otherwise) to cooker is much preferred to posting to expert/newbie
>> lists and not having the real bugs dealt with.
>
> I hope you're right and it all works out okay.

I think it will.  I can't see any drawbacks of that scenario compared 
to the current situation.  By centralizing bug reports in one forum, 
there are only benefits.

>>> I think we should be cautious of telling too many people to do
>>> that.
>
>> I don't.We should
>> not discriminate against people because we don't think they are as
>> intelligent as you or I, But this is no basis to tell
>> the technically incompetent or misguided to post to an inappropriate
>> list and have some valid reports or missed and/or force developers
>> to spend their time reading a forum they shouldn't have to read in
>> order to do their job.
>
> You make a compelling argument and I even agree to a point, especially
> with making things more difficult for developers.  No one wants that.
> In fact, that was the motivation for my argument as well.   You make
> valid points and are of course in a better position to know. I just
> hope the list doesn't become too congested with useless posts and end
> up wasting time and patience that you too are trying to avoid by
> directing them there.  Our goal is the same, but differ in the
> ideology for implementation.

It might become congested... I'm not saying it won't.  I'm not saying 
it will be easier to read, or have less traffic.  It won't.  It's not a 
100% ideal situation, but it's better than the current situation of bug 
reports scattered all over the place, forcing developers to pay 
attention to various lists to catch everything.  Or, even worse, 
wasting people's time to forward pertinent messages (like Alan).

I'm all for ideas on how to improve things... I don't think it's the 
perfect situation.  I think a number of things need to change, and no 
one will ever agree on the best implementation.  Some will say that a 
web-based system, like Forum, is the best method.  I personally 
disagree.  Others might say usenet is the way to go.  Some, mailing 
lists.  There are different methods.  I think mailing lists are the 
best way because developers 

Re: [expert] alcatel speedtouch usb adsl modem

[Alastair Scott]

On Sat, 2002-08-31 at 14:17, Azrael wrote:

> Gave 9.0 beta 3 a spin last week.. and couldn't get my alcatel 
> speedtouch usb adsl modem to work.
> 
> I downloaded the mgmt.o from alcatel and put it where it was supposed to 
> go.. but couldn't get it to work properly.
> 
> Wondered if beta4 had improved such things?

Yes, I think this was a bug in earlier betas: one of the shell scripts
the Mandrake installation sets up sometimes has two parameters
(accidentally) missing from it. The line in /etc/ppp/peers/adsl should
read

pty "/usr/bin/pppoa3 -vpi 0 -vci 38"

but may get written as 

pty "/usr/bin/pppoa3 -vpi  -vci "
 
If that is the problem, adding the parameters and rebooting will fix it
:)

> Also, is it possible that during installation, mandrake can ask for the 
> mgmt.o file from floppy disk, so I could just pop in the floppy and get 
> everything properly configured during installation?
> (if such configuration can be made to work, of course).

That would be useful. But, when installing a beta, I never format /home,
put mgmt.o in /home/thebrix, then run a script from there to start
everything as modem_run and pppd are installed by the beta:

modem_run -m -f mgmt.o
pppd call adsl
privoxy /etc/privoxy/config
firestarter &

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Re: [expert] a stooooooooopid question

[kiran]

On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 05:59, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 12:31 -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > Ok...I've been a wrackin my poor brain for the last few hours and burnin 
> > up the Google search engine trying to find the answer to this question, 
> > but I just can't find the answer and I can't remember the correct 
> > command line syntax to save my forgetful life this morning.
> > 
> > I'm trying to remember the correct manner in which to represent 
> > whitespace in filenames on the command line in a bash shell. Could some 
> > kind soul help me with this?
> 
> You are in good company. Even our former Chancellor Mr. Kohl admitted
> that he had a "Balck Out" aome time!
> 
> cp 'black out.txt' >> 'chancellor kohl.txt'

You can also use cp black?out.txt >> chancellor?khol.txt if thats easier
for you than the backslash or quotes.

> 
> In case you are using already the single quotes you can use the double
> quotes as well.
> 
> wobo
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Re: [expert] using Highpoint RAID as regular IDE controller

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 14:51, Mark Stewart wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I've got a mainboard equipped with a Highpoint 372 IDE RAID controller that
> I'd like to use simply as an extra IDE controller (i.e. not hardware RAID.)
> If I can get this to work I plan on creating a soft RAID setup between it
> and a (non-boot) partition on my primary controller. I had considered simply
> using the secondary controller but I really need to have a CDROM drive on
> one of the channels and the docs I've read on soft RAID indicate this will
> really kill performance.

The documentation I have read concerning soft raid and negative
performance related primarily to using a slave IDE drive as part of a
RAID 0 array.  That is indeed a no no.  But, if the periperal is not
involved in the striping or mirroring (such as a CDROM) it is not likely
to impact your performance.  I have had such a configuration and have
not seen any significant difference between having a slave CDROM device
on or off the bus. YMMV, but not likely.

The main thing to remember is to never integrate anything as slave into
a RAID array.  Since the CDROM is not a part of the RAID array proper
(i.e, it's not striped or mirrored), it does not fall into that
category.  Just because it's plugged into the IDE cable does not make it
part of the RAID array.

Synopsis:  Slaving the Cdrom should be OK.

> If I turn on RAID support in BIOS the 8.2 installer hangs up right after
> detecting the controller. If I leave it off DiskDrake (during and after the
> install) doesn't appear to see the controller or the disk attached to it.

You do not turn on RAID support in the BIOS if you are going to do soft
raid on the Highpoint IDE controller buses.  Bios Raid is left inactive
and Linux does the soft raid.

There is a significant performance advantage in using the Highpoint
controller to drive your RAID array over the generic IDE bus.  It's
faster.

> I'm guessing I may need to provide some arguments to the boot loader but
> haven't been able to figure out what they ought to be.
> 
> My board is an Abit NV7-133R, an nForce 415-D chipset, but Abit has a few
> other boards with the same Highpoint controlller that use non-Nvidia
> chipsets.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?

Deactivate Highpoint raid and do soft raid with the Drake installer.


HTH,

LX

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RE: [expert] Xfree 4.2 & 3.36 crash during installation -- Test X

[Tony S. Sykes]

Les,

You need to install the nvidia drivers, I had a similar problem with a
gf4. Go to http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/nvidiacli.php for a
command line way of installing the drivers. I saved my life.

Tony.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] Xfree 4.2 & 3.36 crash during installation -- Test X


hi

Mandrake 9.0 rc1

had matrox mill2 4mb worked perfect with beta 2 & 3.

now upgraded to Gainwood Geforce3 128mb
installer found generic Geforce3
installed 4.2, 3.36 & 3.36 exp .. 3d acceler..
all crash with horizontal white lines when selecting "test X now"

being a GUI junkie,  need help to find where any messages might be that
will
help solve this.

Thanks
Les
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RE: [expert] X display resolution problem

[Tony S. Sykes]

I have the same problem. At the moment I wait for it to drop to command
line, login and then startx. It works fine then. I am just going to wait
for final mdk9 now.

Tony.

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> Did this start after a 9.0beta install?
 

>> how can i change resolution of X to load linux??
>> that's all, see ya...
 


YES... i've installed beta 4.

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