Re: [expert] Temporary Path creation
Thanks, Nice to know I'm not too far off. Thanks for the info. James On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 23:25, Sridhar wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 23:03, Sridhar wrote: You can create a wrapper script for each application and including the correct path for the app. This will be valid only for the session and will not interfere with other java apps requiring different jdk's. Cheers Sridhar Sridhar, IF I understand you correctly (I'm dense please forgive me) the startup script I'm talking about is that wrapper script. Such so that if I where to start 2 of them at once each with it's own individual start script I'll be safe so to speak from conflict. James Yes, that's right. James Sparenberg wrote: All, I've got to set up a number of apps to use java. Problems come with the fact that as you may know not all jvm's are created equal. Some of these apps run on 1.2 some on 1.3 and others on 1.4 ... then to top it off depending on the distro the directory could be different, and each box is running all 3 apps at different times. So to address this I'm creating a startup script that locates the correct jre or jdk as needed and does the correct path insertion. So what I need to do. 1. discover the location of the jre/jdk I need No problem with this one a case statement is all I need. 2. Set the appropriate path ... see above. 3. Reset the path when the app is closed... Ok... step 3 is the sticking point. If I open an app using 1.2's jre then an app using 1.4's I'm winding up with a confused app because I've got two java commands in the path. or at least this is what I anticipate happening. Am I barking up the wrong tree here or.. if I'm really lucky is this one of those things that happens right without intervention on my part. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Opps (Cron root@home nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily)
Franki wrote: bzcat: ./cancel.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./newaliases.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./mailq.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lpr.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lpq.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lprm.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lp.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lpstat.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./aliases.5.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lpc.8.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. This is my problem now. I tried to fix the broken symlinks manually after the update commands failed, apparently, I got them wrong.. Does anyone know of a list somewhere on what should point where??? This is s standard postfix/cups mandrake 9.0 install.. This seems to be a common problem. Check the commands to issue to fix it with: rpm -q --scripts postfix | grep update-alternatives | grep install rpm -q --scripts cups-common | grep update-alternatives | grep install Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS services. They arbitrarily include in their lists IP addresses not related in any way to spam, and in so doing are disrupting Internet connectivity. Please stop supporting them. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] USB card reader support on 9.0 ?
Hello, I'm having a similar problem with my generic USB Card Reader. I tried making some devices using MAKEDEV but that did not seem to work. The messages file shows that the kernel realizes the reader is there but not device was created to mount. I'm not sure if this affects anything but I am using ide-scsi emulation for two of my cdrom drives. Any advice? I'll be happy to provide more details on the problem if there's any interest. Thanks, Victor Munagala Ramanath wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use my Fuji FinePix 2600Z camera. It works fine with 8.2: When i plug it into the USB port, I get /dev/sda1 created and I can mount it. But on ML 9.0 no /dev/sd* devices get created; this is what I see in the logfile: - Nov 29 14:33:05 abc kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 2 Nov 29 14:33:05 abc kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4cb/0x100) is not claimed by any active driver. Nov 29 14:33:08 abc /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usb-storage usb-storage for USB product 4cb/100/100 Nov 29 14:33:09 abc kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Nov 29 14:33:09 abc kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage Nov 29 14:33:09 abc kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devicesNov 29 14:33:09 abc kernel: Vendor: Fujifilm Model: FinePix 1400Zoom Rev: 0100 Nov 29 14:33:09 abc kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Nov 29 14:33:09 abc kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Nov 29 14:52:37 abc kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame# 1024 - The same sort of thing happens when I plug in a USB card reader that has a SmartMedia card in it: - Nov 29 22:00:05 abc kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 4 Nov 29 22:00:05 abc kernel: scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devicesNov 29 22:00:05 abc kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 4, frame# 28 Nov 29 22:00:05 abc kernel: Vendor: General Model: Flash Disk Drive Rev: 2.05 Nov 29 22:00:05 abc kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Nov 29 22:00:09 abc /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usb-storage for USB product 3538/1/205 - Again, no /dev/sd* devices created, so I'm not sure what to mount. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Ram __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Disable power-managment hi-jacking ofCtrl-Alt-Backspace?
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 19:27, James Sparenberg wrote: This is one point I do have to give to M$ they do seem to be able to dynamically map around bad blocks on HDD's and ram a lot better than Linux or FreeBSD. I don't know if Windows actively maps round bad memory (and in my case its only a single bit). However it could be the difference in distribution of kernel-mode structures. If windows keeps them all in one place but Linux keeps them all over memory it could make Linux more susceptible. After all corrupt memory in user-mode is never a problem - you just lose the one process. It would of had to been a kernel structure getting clobbered to cause the hang, I'm guessing a pageing request or something like that rather than a syscall. As for the badmem tools I've never been able to get them running nor have I really taken a hard run at it. (I cheated and swapped memory with my wifes windows box) Can't get the memtest tools to compile under Mandrake, failing to link to the maths library for some reason (and the make needs to be run as root which is bad). The other thing I have seen is that sometimes running mem at a slower speed works as well. (bad bit at 133 but not at 100). As for DDR memory... haven't got any so don't know. After spending a good hour on the phone to PC world who siad they can't diagnose the problem unless I'm running windows I swapped the sticks. Hopefully this should solve the problem. My college will find out how well Windows will cope soon. James On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 08:50, Alex Bennee wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 13:05, Alex Bennee wrote: snip bit can cause the machine to lock up completely and mess with X windows Ctrl-Alt-BS. I'll re-run memtest tonight and see if the results are consistent in failing. I know i've got a memory problem but the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is not related. Its seems to be a power save feature (it works even in Grub) but Windows seems to disable it by the time it boots. I've tried both noapic and apm=off kernel options but I still cannot disable it. I can't help feeling the two may be related, although I did seem to be able to kill X without killing the machine once its hardly consistent. -- Alex Bennee Senior Hacker, Braddahead Ltd The above is probably my personal opinion and may not be that of my employer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Alex Bennee Senior Hacker, Braddahead Ltd The above is probably my personal opinion and may not be that of my employer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] USB CF CardFlash reader?
Can anyone give me a step-by-step on how to get a usb Zio CF card reader to work on a generic Mandrake 9.0 install? I looked in the Mandrake .config file in/ boot, and believe the necessary stuff is already compiled in the kernel, but am not sure. When I plug in the usb cable, it sends power to the CF reader, but I can't access anything. I've read everything I can find, but haven't been able to get it to work. The camera is a canon Powershot G2 digital camera. I read somewhere that you need to make a directory under /mount, and add a line to/etc/fstab, but it wasn't too specific about how, or exactly what to do. Thanks, Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] kernel 2.5.50 on Mandrake
Is anyone using kernel 2.5.50 with Mandrake 9.0? I've tried to compile, both using the stock 9.0 .config file from /boot, and doing my own menuconfig and xconfig, but can never get past make dep without multiple errors. I've updated the required stuff in the 2.5.50 Documentation/changes file, but it didn't seem to help. Maybe I left something out, but I was careful to be sure and have the versions needed for installing the new kernel. Could it be gcc 3.2 is causing the problems? Thanks, Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Disable power-managment hi-jacking ofCtrl-Alt-Backspace?
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 03:33, Alex Bennee wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 19:27, James Sparenberg wrote: This is one point I do have to give to M$ they do seem to be able to dynamically map around bad blocks on HDD's and ram a lot better than Linux or FreeBSD. I don't know if Windows actively maps round bad memory (and in my case its only a single bit). However it could be the difference in distribution of kernel-mode structures. If windows keeps them all in one place but Linux keeps them all over memory it could make Linux more susceptible. After all corrupt memory in user-mode is never a problem - you just lose the one process. It would of had to been a kernel structure getting clobbered to cause the hang, I'm guessing a pageing request or something like that rather than a syscall. As for the badmem tools I've never been able to get them running nor have I really taken a hard run at it. (I cheated and swapped memory with my wifes windows box) Can't get the memtest tools to compile under Mandrake, failing to link to the maths library for some reason (and the make needs to be run as root which is bad). Can't remember if this is true but if memtest is c++ then I've heard rumor that it is causing problems with some of the older programs that haven't been updated to gcc3.02's differences. Witness the fact that mozilla is compiled under 2.96 for MDK. That could be the trouble. James The other thing I have seen is that sometimes running mem at a slower speed works as well. (bad bit at 133 but not at 100). As for DDR memory... haven't got any so don't know. After spending a good hour on the phone to PC world who siad they can't diagnose the problem unless I'm running windows I swapped the sticks. Hopefully this should solve the problem. My college will find out how well Windows will cope soon. James On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 08:50, Alex Bennee wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 13:05, Alex Bennee wrote: snip bit can cause the machine to lock up completely and mess with X windows Ctrl-Alt-BS. I'll re-run memtest tonight and see if the results are consistent in failing. I know i've got a memory problem but the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is not related. Its seems to be a power save feature (it works even in Grub) but Windows seems to disable it by the time it boots. I've tried both noapic and apm=off kernel options but I still cannot disable it. I can't help feeling the two may be related, although I did seem to be able to kill X without killing the machine once its hardly consistent. -- Alex Bennee Senior Hacker, Braddahead Ltd The above is probably my personal opinion and may not be that of my employer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Alex Bennee Senior Hacker, Braddahead Ltd The above is probably my personal opinion and may not be that of my employer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] USB card reader support on 9.0 ?
On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 05:32:26PM -0800, Munagala Ramanath wrote: --- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have conected a Nikon 755 under 9.0 and has work like a charm. After be sure usb, usb-core, usb-storage and ide-scsi modules are loaded I created a directory to be mounted (mkdir -m 777 /mnt/camera). Then, after have usb-pluged the camera, I did: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera My problem is that the /dev/sda* files are not created. The modules Do you have sd_mod loaded? try loading it manually or adding add above usb-storege sd_mod into /etc/modules.conf I also managed to make the thingie automount by adding something like REGISTER ^scsisomethingtarget0/lun0/part1$ EXEC mount /dev/sda1 to a file included from /etc/devfsd.conf but I have no GNU/Linux system available here to reproduce the exact syntax. When I tried supermount I was not able to read several hundred KiB from the flash reader without replugging it and the system eventually locked up. I did not find a way to deregister the device after unmounting it so that it automounts next time it is plugged in. I can do ls -l scsisomethinglun0 which makes the dev/sda1 go away. I think I can even use eject to do that. But I did not find a way to make it autoeject when I unmount and unplug it. I wonder what would be the proper solution for more complex cases where more than one reader is used, or other scsi(-emulation) drivers are needed. I have no idea how multi-card readers would be used as one would probably like to exhange cards in some slots w/o unplugging the reader. -- Michal Suchanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] USB CF CardFlash reader?
I've got another version but I used this page and a bit of luck. http://www.scm-pc-card.de/service/linux/zio-cf.html There is a link at the bottom to the original version... more complete. James On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 03:52, Robert Crawford wrote: Can anyone give me a step-by-step on how to get a usb Zio CF card reader to work on a generic Mandrake 9.0 install? I looked in the Mandrake .config file in/ boot, and believe the necessary stuff is already compiled in the kernel, but am not sure. When I plug in the usb cable, it sends power to the CF reader, but I can't access anything. I've read everything I can find, but haven't been able to get it to work. The camera is a canon Powershot G2 digital camera. I read somewhere that you need to make a directory under /mount, and add a line to/etc/fstab, but it wasn't too specific about how, or exactly what to do. Thanks, Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] xine dvd playing
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 03:16 pm, J. Grant wrote: Hi, Although mdk9 includes xine, I still have to install the encrypted dvd decoder. I had this working in 8.1 but it is not going well atm. As xine is installed already I added the following: libdvdread2-devel-0.9.3-2mdk libdvdcss2-1.2.3-1plf libdvdread2-0.9.3-2mdk libdvdread-utils-0.9.3-2mdk I built libdvdnav from source as it was not availble as rpm (for all my looking). I've tried to build xine-dvdnav from source as well, but it says xine-config file is not found, i could not avoid this ./configure problem. You could try './configure --prefix=/usr' for both libdvdnav and xine-dvdnav. When bulding from source, --prefix defaults to /usr/local. Doing this got it working for me. I've checked the penguin liberation front which normally contains these contentius rpms. http://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/9.0/i586/ I also checked http://dvd.sourceforge.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] xine dvd playing
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 04:41 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote: snip # urpmi xine-dvdnav Um die Abhängigkeiten zu erfüllen, werden die folgenden Pakete installiert (0 MB): libdvdnav1-0.1.3-1mdk.i586 xine-dvdnav-0.9.13-1mdk.i586 Hmmm ... tried the same thing, and got a no package named xine-dvdnav?!? Any ideas?!? Thx, Stef Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Disable power-managment hi-jacking ofCtrl-Alt-Backspace?
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 12:45, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 03:33, Alex Bennee wrote: Can't get the memtest tools to compile under Mandrake, failing to link to the maths library for some reason (and the make needs to be run as root which is bad). Can't remember if this is true but if memtest is c++ then I've heard rumor that it is causing problems with some of the older programs that haven't been updated to gcc3.02's differences. Witness the fact that mozilla is compiled under 2.96 for MDK. That could be the trouble. My bad, brain fart. I meant the badmem tools (which are required to build a badmem enabled kernel). Memtest indead needs to be compiled with gcc2.x which it is on Mandrake. I even added the badmem suggested patch to it without any problems. -- Alex Bennee Senior Hacker, Braddahead Ltd The above is probably my personal opinion and may not be that of my employer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Can't smbumount - permission denied
That was my first attempt. But it seems NFS isn't fully compiled into the LM8.1 kernel. There is a module missing, i think its called nfsso.oxc something. In services it says NFS running, but, on going through all the help people gave me earlier, it wouldn't run fully, just kept telling me a module was missing, and i'm in a situation where i can't shut down the machine. All the students using the shares are female. Now, anybody want to say no to 40 very stressed females. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. Craig Woods Sent: 04 December 2002 3:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Can't smbumount - permission denied Why would you be using samba for mounting a linux export to a linux machine? Samba is best used for mounting win32 shares to linux or vice versa. Why not try nfs to do what nfs was made to do... drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX Network/System Administration http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.html Character is built upon the debris of despair --Emerson Ken Walker wrote: I smbmounted a LM9 machine from a LM8.1 machine last night to tar across some folders. The tar failed after 1Gig with wrote only 0 of 10240 bytes, tar:error not recoverable: exiting now. Now, even as root i can't smbumount the remote share. it just says permission denied. Anybody any ideas even if i log out and then back in again, the mount is still there. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] xine dvd playing
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 14:08, stefmit wrote: On Tuesday 03 December 2002 04:41 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote: snip # urpmi xine-dvdnav Um die Abhängigkeiten zu erfüllen, werden die folgenden Pakete installiert (0 MB): libdvdnav1-0.1.3-1mdk.i586 xine-dvdnav-0.9.13-1mdk.i586 Hmmm ... tried the same thing, and got a no package named xine-dvdnav?!? Any ideas?!? Thx, Stef Yes you don't have a contrib-source defined. What I would do on every mandrake-box (for desktop-use) is: adding an update-mirror for security updates. adding contrib-mirror to my sources adding a plf-mirror to my sources in case of a club-membership: adding a mirror for the commercial packages to my sources (flash/realplayer/nvidia-rpms and so on ..) adding a mirror for club-packages Your need for searching and compiling by yourself will decrease a lot. Dying in the abilities of urpmi is worth the try, its the main reason for mandrake in my case. Greets Steffen -- counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 89 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: xine dvd playing
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 08:13 am, Steffen Barszus wrote: snip Yes you don't have a contrib-source defined. What I would do on every mandrake-box (for desktop-use) is: adding an update-mirror for security updates. adding contrib-mirror to my sources adding a plf-mirror to my sources in case of a club-membership: adding a mirror for the commercial packages to my sources (flash/realplayer/nvidia-rpms and so on ..) adding a mirror for club-packages Your need for searching and compiling by yourself will decrease a lot. Dying in the abilities of urpmi is worth the try, its the main reason for mandrake in my case. Greets Steffen Great - thanks for the answer! Do you have any recommended (i.e. proven to be reliable) sources for the above? I got to change the update-mirror a couple of times, due to unavailability of specific packages, so I was wondering about the rest (contrib and plf). Thx, Stef Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] RPM troubles
I was updating the latest errata for LM 9.0 and I got the following output: [root@x errata]# rpm -Fvh * rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3479 rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3480 rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3481 rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3482 error: db4 error(-30979) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed I'm not too familiar with RPM, so I was wondering if anyone has run across this and if I should be worried about this. TIA, -- Alan Carbutt Systems Administrator/Programmer Adams State College 719-587-7741 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: xine dvd playing
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 16:02, stefmit wrote: On Wednesday 04 December 2002 08:13 am, Steffen Barszus wrote: snip Yes you don't have a contrib-source defined. What I would do on every mandrake-box (for desktop-use) is: adding an update-mirror for security updates. adding contrib-mirror to my sources adding a plf-mirror to my sources in case of a club-membership: adding a mirror for the commercial packages to my sources (flash/realplayer/nvidia-rpms and so on ..) adding a mirror for club-packages Your need for searching and compiling by yourself will decrease a lot. Dying in the abilities of urpmi is worth the try, its the main reason for mandrake in my case. Greets Steffen Great - thanks for the answer! Do you have any recommended (i.e. proven to be reliable) sources for the above? I use the spanish rediris server for contrib (contrib is mostly 2 dirs up on mandrake-mirrors, searching a fast for you and look if there is a hdlist.cz or synthesis.hdlist2.cz), plf gives you an interface for generating urpmi.addmedia lines. For security updates there was a post yesterday on club: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=827forum=11 ... If you want that to be used as an update source you need to add the update switch,and a name. As in 'urpmi.addmedia --update Updates ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz' ... I got to change the update-mirror a couple of times, due to unavailability of specific packages, so I was wondering about the rest (contrib and plf). Thx, Stef unavailable packages mostly appear if your hdlist is outdated. so you should update it. (for the above example : 'urpmi.update Updates') As I understood the next urpmi will even get better (just as I read the ML , I could be wrong !!): - supporting different mirrors for the same source - as I understood incremental updates of the hdlists.cz The hdlist.cz contains all informations of all packages in the source so can be quite big (some MB for contrib a lot lesser for Updates) The synthesis.hdlist.cz contains only the available packages (just arround 100-200 kB). For finding files in e.g. ftp-sources you need the hdlist.cz ( then you can make urpmf file.h and find the file , even if it is not on your harddisk or on some of your CDs) -- counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 89 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RPM troubles
On 4 Dec 2002, Alan Carbutt wrote: error: db4 error(-30979) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed I'm not too familiar with RPM, so I was wondering if anyone has run across this and if I should be worried about this. It sounds like a corrupt database, but I've never seen a message like that one before. You can try rebuilding the database with: rpm --rebuilddb You'll need write access to the rpm database. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel 2.5.50 on Mandrake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 04 December 2002 6:08 am, Robert Crawford wrote: Is anyone using kernel 2.5.50 with Mandrake 9.0? I've tried to compile, both using the stock 9.0 .config file from /boot, and doing my own menuconfig and xconfig, but can never get past make dep without multiple errors. I've updated the required stuff in the 2.5.50 Documentation/changes file, but it didn't seem to help. Maybe I left something out, but I was careful to be sure and have the versions needed for installing the new kernel. Could it be gcc 3.2 is causing the problems? Thanks, Robert Crawford More than likely your kernel headers don't match. Recompile the appropriate kernel headers for that version of kernel. HTH - -- - Altoine B Maximum Time Unlimited Chicago Based and Operated http://pgp.mit.edu - Being frustrated is disagreeable, but the real disasters in life begin when you get what you want. - 2.4.20-0.5endr Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Cooker) for i586 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE97iyKxjybQmhmUgYRAg+8AKCdY1BLnDYoTtQ8HHUFo+OnZFeJpwCeLqw5 pOiQzsjCeLxkqsCzb8cMhWM= =DX5A -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Colortail. A wonderful tool for adding color to your syslog or any other text file!
Great, I recently tried to compile this on 9. How do I apply the patch though? TIA, Jord On Wednesday 04 Dec 2002 4:02 am, Lorne wrote: Good news guys. A simple new little tool was brought to my attention. It is a simple little tool for graphically coloring information. It doesn't compile in Mandrake 9.0. It gives errors. I've been in contact with the author and he was very good at responding and giving us a patch!! Woohoo, it works!!! Here is the response from him: I put the patch on sourceforge in the colortail project there. Here's a direct link to the file: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/colortail/colortail-0.3.0-gcc3.patch.gz? download Now I have one more little dilema! I would LOVE to make this work on Mandrake security, which I'm currently running on my firewall. I get an error when I try. I thought I could just take the compiled one and run that, but no... is there anyone out here that is an expert on the security release? -- Jordan Elver http://www.jordanelver.co.uk How do I read MIME files??? Quietly, while pretending to be trapped in an invisible box. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RPM trouble
Alan Carbutt wrote: I was updating the latest errata for LM 9.0 and I got the following output: [root@x errata]# rpm -Fvh * rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3479 rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3480 rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3481 rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3482 error: db4 error(-30979) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed I'm not too familiar with RPM, so I was wondering if anyone has run across this and if I should be worried about this. TIA, It happens to me all the time. Delete /var/lib/rpm/__db.* and then rpm --rebuilddb If you're lucky you'll get your rpm database back. If you're not, you'll get a working rpm database but with *many* packages missing (this happened to me once). It was painful to solve (basically, running all files through rpm -qf to see which ones weren't owned by any package, run the resulting list through urpmf to know the packages to rpm --justdb). Now each time I install or remove packages I keep a copy of the rpm -qa output (to compare it to what I get after rpm --rebuilddb). Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS services. They arbitrarily include in their lists IP addresses not related in any way to spam, and in so doing are disrupting Internet connectivity. Please stop supporting them. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 msg62146/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] RPM trouble
Good Shiva! What a massive pain. Might you consider producing a perl script that would handle all the steps you mentioned as a last-ditch rpm db recovery tool? I have lost my rpm db a few times but always got it back with the rebuilddb command but I can say I would HATE to have to go through all the steps you mentioned to get the db back if the normal procedure fails. praedor On Wednesday 04 December 2002 01:44 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote: Alan Carbutt wrote: I was updating the latest errata for LM 9.0 and I got the following output: [root@x errata]# rpm -Fvh * rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3479 rpmdb: Unreferenced page 3480 [...] It happens to me all the time. Delete /var/lib/rpm/__db.* and then rpm --rebuilddb If you're lucky you'll get your rpm database back. If you're not, you'll get a working rpm database but with *many* packages missing (this happened to me once). It was painful to solve (basically, running all files through rpm -qf to see which ones weren't owned by any package, run the resulting list through urpmf to know the packages to rpm --justdb). Now each time I install or remove packages I keep a copy of the rpm -qa output (to compare it to what I get after rpm --rebuilddb). Bye Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] New LM 9.0 Install - another SCSI System
Here's a SCSI of a Different Flavor. While trying to reformat the / filesystem, (type ext3), I get the following error: Ext2 formatting of sda1 failed. Did I mention that this is set up as a ext3 type filesystem? So why does the error message say there is a problem with the ext2 formatting? Btw, this is an Expert/Install mode on a NEW Server. Any ideas how I can proceed? -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New LM 9.0 Install - another SCSI System
I REALLY Don't understand this. The First installation on this machine (yesterday afternoon), went flawlessly, using the traditional installation method. Today I noticed that there were some issues with the machine not running well, so I decided to perform another Installation. That's when the problems were encountered. Now, after selecting the alt2 method of booting, the filesystem reformats without issue. Now after package selection, I am installing rpms once again. BTW, the ALT2 (boot from Installation CD #2) indicated that this was an 8.2 installation??? HELLO? Mandrake, Have you heard of Quality Control? Albert E. Whale wrote: Here's a SCSI of a Different Flavor. While trying to reformat the / filesystem, (type ext3), I get the following error: Ext2 formatting of sda1 failed. Did I mention that this is set up as a ext3 type filesystem? So why does the error message say there is a problem with the ext2 formatting? Btw, this is an Expert/Install mode on a NEW Server. Any ideas how I can proceed? -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RPM trouble
Praedor Atrebates wrote: Good Shiva! What a massive pain. Might you consider producing a perl script that would handle all the steps you mentioned as a last-ditch rpm db recovery tool? No, first because I don't know perl and second because, though some steps can be automated, the procedure has to be manually supervised (and it's just a matter of stringing some commands together with pipes anyway). Besides I hope it never happens again ;-) (and BTW, instead of using urpmf on each file -- slow -- I actually extracted the list of files from the hdlists and grepped through them) I have lost my rpm db a few times but always got it back with the rebuilddb command but I can say I would HATE to have to go through all the steps you mentioned to get the db back if the normal procedure fails. As I said, I have rpmdb problems all the time, but I had this big problem only once (twice if I count a cdWriter server I setup at work, but I didn't even try to recover it: it's working now and it will be easier to reinstall everything when it fails). Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS services. They arbitrarily include in their lists IP addresses not related in any way to spam, and in so doing are disrupting Internet connectivity. Please stop supporting them. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 msg62150/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] Terminal Settings not saved
Has anyone else used the Terminal Shell and changed the configuration settings only to have the old ones brought back up again? -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel 2.5.50 on Mandrake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Crawford wrote on Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:08:21AM -0500 : Is anyone using kernel 2.5.50 with Mandrake 9.0? I've tried to compile, both using the stock 9.0 .config file from /boot, and doing my own menuconfig and xconfig, but can never get past make dep without multiple errors. I've updated the required stuff in the 2.5.50 Documentation/changes file, but it didn't seem to help. Maybe I left something out, but I was careful to be sure make dep seems to be deprecated in the 2.5 series. Just do make oldconfig make make modules make modules_install make install Now having said all that, I haven't been able to get a 2.5 kernel to boot successfully since 2.5.47. They changed the modutils. Go look at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/people/rusty/modules/ and get version 0.9beta. I was not able to make it work, but maybe you'll have more time and better luck. Blue skies... Todd - -- | MandrakeSoft USA | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mandrakesoft.com | made up of several layers and makes | | http://www.mandrakelinux.com | you cry. --Howard Chu| Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.4mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE97m6Xlp7v05cW2woRAhslAKCKam9rLOmIDTXL/+V9LwYDjnrCfwCcDOHZ 6/vUUQtYlyNvPED1Gi2SdC4= =YSpZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RPM trouble
Last ditch effort for me is defined on this page. Saved my bacon a time or two. http://hermes.afaa.asso.fr/users/pascal/linux/rpm-rebuilddb James On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 12:30, Luca Olivetti wrote: Praedor Atrebates wrote: Good Shiva! What a massive pain. Might you consider producing a perl script that would handle all the steps you mentioned as a last-ditch rpm db recovery tool? No, first because I don't know perl and second because, though some steps can be automated, the procedure has to be manually supervised (and it's just a matter of stringing some commands together with pipes anyway). Besides I hope it never happens again ;-) (and BTW, instead of using urpmf on each file -- slow -- I actually extracted the list of files from the hdlists and grepped through them) I have lost my rpm db a few times but always got it back with the rebuilddb command but I can say I would HATE to have to go through all the steps you mentioned to get the db back if the normal procedure fails. As I said, I have rpmdb problems all the time, but I had this big problem only once (twice if I count a cdWriter server I setup at work, but I didn't even try to recover it: it's working now and it will be easier to reinstall everything when it fails). Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS services. They arbitrarily include in their lists IP addresses not related in any way to spam, and in so doing are disrupting Internet connectivity. Please stop supporting them. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New LM 9.0 Install - another SCSI System
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Albert E. Whale wrote on Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 03:24:59PM -0500 : Now, after selecting the alt2 method of booting, the filesystem reformats without issue. Now after package selection, I am installing rpms once again. alt2 is the 2.2.19 kernel which does not support ext3 (or xfs or reiser or jfs), so your only option is ext2. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. --Larry Wall Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.4mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE97nKUlp7v05cW2woRAgbIAKCxIQ2prMNdkDJcUJCRB6o7I0c0tACdEGKT OXqTAq3gE8arzfSyPKZ0G6I= =y+GX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RPM trouble
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 03:30 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote: Praedor Atrebates wrote: [...] I have lost my rpm db a few times but always got it back with the rebuilddb command but I can say I would HATE to have to go through all the steps you mentioned to get the db back if the normal procedure fails. As I said, I have rpmdb problems all the time, but I had this big problem only once (twice if I count a cdWriter server I setup at work, but I didn't even try to recover it: it's working now and it will be easier to reinstall everything when it fails). Speaking of which...I have discovered a reliable way to produce an rpm database problem, at least with Mandrake 8.2. Run rpm -qa and stop it before it finishes with a Ctrl-C (it will proceed to list every single rpm installed with the aforementioned command). For me, every time, it wrecks the database and requires that I do a rebuilddb. Why do this in the first place? By accident. I have been looking for a specific subset of packages but hit the Enter key before entering the rest of the search parameters. I _mean_ to do an rpm -qa|grep some word and instead sometimes hit Enter and run the truncated command. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel 2.5.50 on Mandrake
Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Crawford wrote on Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:08:21AM -0500 : Is anyone using kernel 2.5.50 with Mandrake 9.0? I've tried to compile, both using the stock 9.0 .config file from /boot, and doing my own menuconfig and xconfig, but can never get past make dep without multiple errors. I've updated the required stuff in the 2.5.50 Documentation/changes file, but it didn't seem to help. Maybe I left something out, but I was careful to be sure make dep seems to be deprecated in the 2.5 series. Just do make oldconfig make make modules make modules_install make install Now having said all that, I haven't been able to get a 2.5 kernel to boot successfully since 2.5.47. They changed the modutils. Go look at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/people/rusty/modules/ and get version 0.9beta. I was not able to make it work, but maybe you'll have more time and better luck. I have 2.5.50 running fine... except for a couple snags, amd is kinda broken and the alsa-oss drivers are not automatically loaded for compadibility. In addition, the new modutils don't correctly work when they call the older utilities. (for some reason the .o.gz modules will not get decompressed automatically by the old modutils when called from the new modutils) :( don't for get to apply the patch in http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/people/rusty/modules/ for 2.5.50. There is one reject you have to fix by hand. All in all 2.5 seems nice, just needs much polishing. The modutils changes are the biggest pain. -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel 2.5.50 on Mandrake
Todd, Do you mean: make oldconfig make bzImage make modules make modules_install make install leaving out the make dep and make clean steps, and use the default Mandrake .config file from /boot as the basis for the configure? Thanks, Robert C. On Wednesday 04 December 2002 04:07 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: make oldconfig make make modules make modules_install make install Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] rpm failure in wu-ftpd installation
Thank you very much, Mr. Kwan. I was trying the 2nd option (get the macros from a mdk90 box) but as it was getting too long and I was too busy I ended doing the other option. Now wu-ftpd is installed, but still I can not log in!!! Thanx once more. I'll see if I can step over this error up to the next error ;-))) El jue, 28-11-2002 a las 20:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On 28 Nov 2002, ddc_prueba wrote: I looked into /usr/lib/rpm/macros and saw nothing weird (thougth don't know exactly how it shoul be). Also, I did a: rpm -Uvh --force --allfiles rpm-4.0.3-10mdk.i586.rpm but it is still with the same problem :-(( Any more bet? ( Thanx a lot for your interest! ) Sure... Try this: Install the source rpm first. If you're doing this as root, go to /usr/src/RPM/SPECS or wherever your RPM installation directory is. In the ./SPECS directory you'll see the wu-ftpd.spec file. Take a look at this file in your editor. The lines of interest are: %pre %_pre_useradd ftp /var/ftp /bin/false This is where the installation is failing. This line will add a user called ftp, with home directory of /var/ftp and /bin/false as the shell. The %_pre_useradd is a macro that exists in 9.0 but not in 8.0. There are two ways around it -- either delete the %pre section entirely then rebuild the package or copy the _pre_useradd macro from a 9.0 system into the 8.0 /usr/lib/rpm/macros file. To do the former: 1) delete the %pre and %pre_useradd lines then save the spec file. 2) rpm -ba wu-ftpd.spec 3) Create an ftp user if it doesn't exist with the above shell, dir,etc.. 4) Install the newly created RPM. And for the latter: 1) Extract the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file from a 9.0 system. 2) Copy the %_pre_useradd macro to the 8.2 system. 3) Install the binary package you created. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Diego Dominguez __/\__ | | Andalucia /\ Spain \/ |__ __| \/ ___ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 El único lugar de Internet con vídeos de los 64 partidos. ¡Apúntante ya! en http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mozilla 1.2.1
Does anyone know where I can find Mozilla 1.2.1 for mdk 9.0? Based on previous threads on this list, I believe it has to be compiled with gcc 2.9.6 for the java plugin to work with it. Brian. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel 2.5.50 on Mandrake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Crawford wrote on Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:02:37PM -0500 : Todd, Do you mean: make oldconfig make bzImage Just 'make' by itself does the same thing as make bzImage. make modules make modules_install make install leaving out the make dep and make clean steps, and use the default Mandrake .config file from /boot as the basis for the configure? Yes. I always edit the .config file by hand and then make oldconfig to read it in and make the required adjustments, but most people are going to be more comfortable in make menuconfig or make xconfig. Blue skies... Todd - -- ...and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my binaries, and you will know my name is root, when I lay my vengeance upon thee. Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.4mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE97ph5lp7v05cW2woRAgTkAJ9PStQxsV/YgjEgYoEc4PS9+dM8awCeNd1U S8oWgSAmVIv4XzM3k4GJE2o= =DqLi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing PINE
My Inbox Happily Received This From Mark Weaver @ Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:38:46 -0500 SoloCDM wrote: Why isn't PINE in the Mandrake distribution? I realize mutt is, but what takes the place of PINE? There are licensing issues which prevent MandrakeSoft from including it as part of the distro, however you can easily pick up the tarball from the University of Washington's website or grab the binary rpm's from rpmfind.net. you can get them from the plf website plf.zarb.org -- -- Katoob Main Developer Linux registered user # 224950 ICQ # 58475622 FIRST make it run, THEN make it run fast Brian Kernighan. msg62161/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Missing PINE
SoloCDM wrote: Why isn't PINE in the Mandrake distribution? I realize mutt is, but what takes the place of PINE? There are licensing issues which prevent MandrakeSoft from including it as part of the distro, however you can easily pick up the tarball from the University of Washington's website or grab the binary rpm's from rpmfind.net. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] rpm failure in wu-ftpd installation
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 11:35, ddc_prueba wrote: Thank you very much, Mr. Kwan. I was trying the 2nd option (get the macros from a mdk90 box) but as it was getting too long and I was too busy I ended doing the other option. Now wu-ftpd is installed, but still I can not log in!!! Thanx once more. I'll see if I can step over this error up to the next error ;-))) Having missed previous parts of this thread, this may have been covered. But in previous releases of MDK you would need to go into /etc/xinetd.d and edit the file wu-ftpd so that instead of disable = yes becomes disable = no and then restart xinetd (/etc/init.d/xinetd restart) to get it working. James El jue, 28-11-2002 a las 20:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On 28 Nov 2002, ddc_prueba wrote: I looked into /usr/lib/rpm/macros and saw nothing weird (thougth don't know exactly how it shoul be). Also, I did a: rpm -Uvh --force --allfiles rpm-4.0.3-10mdk.i586.rpm but it is still with the same problem :-(( Any more bet? ( Thanx a lot for your interest! ) Sure... Try this: Install the source rpm first. If you're doing this as root, go to /usr/src/RPM/SPECS or wherever your RPM installation directory is. In the ./SPECS directory you'll see the wu-ftpd.spec file. Take a look at this file in your editor. The lines of interest are: %pre %_pre_useradd ftp /var/ftp /bin/false This is where the installation is failing. This line will add a user called ftp, with home directory of /var/ftp and /bin/false as the shell. The %_pre_useradd is a macro that exists in 9.0 but not in 8.0. There are two ways around it -- either delete the %pre section entirely then rebuild the package or copy the _pre_useradd macro from a 9.0 system into the 8.0 /usr/lib/rpm/macros file. To do the former: 1) delete the %pre and %pre_useradd lines then save the spec file. 2) rpm -ba wu-ftpd.spec 3) Create an ftp user if it doesn't exist with the above shell, dir,etc.. 4) Install the newly created RPM. And for the latter: 1) Extract the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file from a 9.0 system. 2) Copy the %_pre_useradd macro to the 8.2 system. 3) Install the binary package you created. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Diego Dominguez __/\__ | | Andalucia /\ Spain \/ |__ __| \/ ___ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 El único lugar de Internet con vídeos de los 64 partidos. ¡Apúntante ya! en http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Updating SNF
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 15:41, Mark Weaver wrote: KevinO wrote: rant I ran (fought with, suffered with) SNF for several months. Now we use Smoothwall. (IPCop should be similar) My suggestion: Use smoothwall or something similar. Don't bother with SNF. Sorry Mandrake. I like your distributions and I support you financially. But, SNF was a terrible product. Slow, wouldn't forward UDP (despite allowing you to configure that in without any warnings or complaints.), and too big of a distribution for a firewall. SNF 300MB download Smoothwall 30MB download (and it does pretty much everything SNF claims it will) Easier to use/figure out web interface too. I consider the time I spent with SNF to have been a total waste. /rant KevinO James Sparenberg wrote: You mean you learned nothing about iptables and how to use them during that time using SNF? Mark No SNF is the 2.2 kernel and uses ipchains. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mozilla 1.2.1
It's a little new eventually (meaning sometime probably in the next few days) it will show up in the cooker for test purposes and then once it's solid expect it to appear in updates. Depending on the box of the person doing the build it's a slow build for sure. James On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 16:06, Brian Schroeder wrote: Does anyone know where I can find Mozilla 1.2.1 for mdk 9.0? Based on previous threads on this list, I believe it has to be compiled with gcc 2.9.6 for the java plugin to work with it. Brian. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] rpm failure in wu-ftpd installation
On 4 Dec 2002, ddc_prueba wrote: Thank you very much, Mr. Kwan. I was trying the 2nd option (get the macros from a mdk90 box) but as it was getting too long and I was too busy I ended doing the other option. Now wu-ftpd is installed, but still I can not log in!!! Thanx once more. I'll see if I can step over this error up to the next error ;-))) What errors are you getting in wu-ftpd? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Updating SNF
KevinO wrote: rant I ran (fought with, suffered with) SNF for several months. Now we use Smoothwall. (IPCop should be similar) My suggestion: Use smoothwall or something similar. Don't bother with SNF. Sorry Mandrake. I like your distributions and I support you financially. But, SNF was a terrible product. Slow, wouldn't forward UDP (despite allowing you to configure that in without any warnings or complaints.), and too big of a distribution for a firewall. SNF 300MB download Smoothwall 30MB download (and it does pretty much everything SNF claims it will) Easier to use/figure out web interface too. I consider the time I spent with SNF to have been a total waste. /rant KevinO James Sparenberg wrote: You mean you learned nothing about iptables and how to use them during that time using SNF? Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mozilla 1.2.1
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 06:10 PM, James Sparenberg wrote: It's a little new eventually (meaning sometime probably in the next few days) it will show up in the cooker for test purposes and then once it's solid expect it to appear in updates. Depending on the box of the person doing the build it's a slow build for sure. What makes you think it'll be in updates? -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import {FE6F2AFD: 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} PGP.sig Description: PGP signature
RE: [expert] NFS permissions
Look at the files in /var/lib/nfs and edit the one that has the incorrect entry (rmtab, I think). Bill Shirley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Parish Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] NFS permissions showmount just showed everything exported to everyone. I have now removed the /data export and rebooted everything to see what happens. After this: # showmount -e server Export list for server: /public (everyone) /home/brian (everyone) and some more # showmount -a server All mount points on server: 192.168.0.253:/data 192.168.0.253:/home/brian 192.168.0.253:/public and some more /data still shows up on the -a list (but not on the -e list) after having been removed from exports and the server (and clients) rebooted. ...and of course if I put it back in exports and attempt to mount it, I get the same permissions error. Explicitly adding hostnames or networks in exports makes no difference. Seems like the /data export has been somehow corrupted in a way which persists between reboots. Is there some sort of cache on disk somewhere that needs to be flushed? I imagine that if I remounted the /data partition under another mount point and exported that, everything would work, but that's just avoiding the problem rather than understanding it, so I'd like to persevere for the moment. thanks for the interest! Brian On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 01:10, Tru64 User wrote: Check using showmount -e systemname and see which files are expported to what hosts. Seems like its having problems with perms.(but u said others look same way and they work?) Let us know what u find out. Otherwise add /data hostname(rw),hostname(rw) _Thanks Richard --- Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This evening I found an export from my server no longer available. # mount -a mount: server:/data failed, reason given by server: Permission denied The server log shows: Dec 3 23:50:51 cnc-server rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 192.168.0.253:709 for /data (/data) Dec 3 23:50:51 cnc-server rpc.mountd: getfh failed: Operation not permitted The line in /etc/exports says: /data (rw) Permissions and ownership of the directory are as they were and identical with other exported filesystems. All the other are working. The security level here is Standard (this is mdk 9.0) Any ideas out there on where to look? TIA Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Updating SNF
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 06:04 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 15:41, Mark Weaver wrote: KevinO wrote: rant I ran (fought with, suffered with) SNF for several months. Now we use Smoothwall. (IPCop should be similar) Well I must say I did the same about a year ago. Gave up. Then I got hacked and decided to give it another go. Same exact trouble. It would hang on reboot at eth1 (outside interface) Every time. I rebuilt it 4 times and each time same thing. I decided to research some more. I found on the mandrake security list serve. Snort was trying to bring the nic up in promiscous mode. Once I figured out a way around this, I was able to get it working. Some VERy nice features in it. Buggy, yes. It is a wonderful way (once up) to play with snort, snortsnarf, and it has some wonderful web based monitoring tools. My suggestion: Use smoothwall or something similar. Don't bother with SNF. Sorry Mandrake. I like your distributions and I support you financially. But, SNF was a terrible product. Slow, wouldn't forward UDP (despite allowing you to configure that in without any warnings or complaints.), and too big of a distribution for a firewall. SNF 300MB download Smoothwall 30MB download (and it does pretty much everything SNF claims it will) Easier to use/figure out web interface too. I consider the time I spent with SNF to have been a total waste. /rant KevinO James Sparenberg wrote: You mean you learned nothing about iptables and how to use them during that time using SNF? Mark No SNF is the 2.2 kernel and uses ipchains. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] LinCVS for mandrake9
Does anyone happen to know if there are any LinCVS rpm's available for mandrake9? many thanks -- Azrael (\''/).___..--'''-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Xinerama and rage mobility m3
Does anyone know if it is possible to get the rage mobility m3 working with Xinerama? I have just inherited a new monitor at work. I tried adding a new monitor and screen section to XF86Config-4 as well as adding Option Xinerama on Screen Screen2 Screen Screen1 RightOf Screen2 to ServerLayout. Do I have to change the Device section? Thank you Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New LM 9.0 Install - another SCSI System
Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Albert E. Whale wrote on Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 03:24:59PM -0500 : Now, after selecting the alt2 method of booting, the filesystem reformats without issue. Now after package selection, I am installing rpms once again. alt2 is the 2.2.19 kernel which does not support ext3 (or xfs or reiser or jfs), so your only option is ext2. Blue skies... Todd Todd, My situation IMPROVES with alt2. Alt 2 is the solution, which BTW Does support ext3, or else I would not be able to reformat the / and /usr partitions which are ext3. The default installation has not worked for many of my SCSI servers, regardless of the Adapter manufacturer. Hope that clarifies it. -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DNS queries every 20 seconds...
Pierre Fortin wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 12:47:38 -0600 J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre, Very interresting, can you tell us more, i.e. are these conventional dns_gueries? Are these being sent and received on port 53 (or some other port)? What is the proto, tcp or udp? What kind of flags are set in the IP headers? What does top (or a ps -aux) show? Are these queries going out to gtld and/or root servers, i.e. where are the destinations and/or sources? Do you see any aberrations in your syslog? Hey Craig! Here's a typical query/response pair... just out to the first NS listed in /etc/resolv.conf... Nothing above the radar on top/ps... Went out for turkey dinner; when I got back the queries had stopped... and I restarted the ethereal trace without saving the original... :P The source port was incrementing; but not on every query... I'll keep an eye on it for a while... Frame 10250 (76 bytes on wire, 76 bytes captured) Arrival Time: Nov 28, 2002 13:05:58.884533000 Time delta from previous packet: 19.869979000 seconds Time relative to first packet: 15496.958553000 seconds Frame Number: 10250 Packet Length: 76 bytes Capture Length: 76 bytes Ethernet II, Src: 00:d0:b7:ad:a0:6c, Dst: 00:04:5a:6b:35:5b Destination: 00:04:5a:6b:35:5b (The_6b:35:5b) Source: 00:d0:b7:ad:a0:6c (INTEL_ad:a0:6c) Type: IP (0x0800) Internet Protocol, Src Addr: 192.168.1.14 (192.168.1.14), Dst Addr: 207.69.188.186 (207.69.188.186) Version: 4 Header length: 20 bytes Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00) 00.. = Differentiated Services Codepoint: Default (0x00) ..0. = ECN-Capable Transport (ECT): 0 ...0 = ECN-CE: 0 Total Length: 62 Identification: 0xae6e Flags: 0x04 .1.. = Don't fragment: Set ..0. = More fragments: Not set Fragment offset: 0 Time to live: 64 Protocol: UDP (0x11) Header checksum: 0x3e8a (correct) Source: 192.168.1.14 (192.168.1.14) Destination: 207.69.188.186 (207.69.188.186) User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: 34118 (34118), Dst Port: domain (53) Source port: 34118 (34118) Destination port: domain (53) Length: 42 Checksum: 0x9821 (correct) Domain Name System (query) Transaction ID: 0x463d Flags: 0x0100 (Standard query) 0... = Response: Message is a query .000 0... = Opcode: Standard query (0) ..0. = Truncated: Message is not truncated ...1 = Recursion desired: Do query recursively ...0 = Non-authenticated data OK: Non-authenticated data is unacceptable Questions: 1 Answer RRs: 0 Authority RRs: 0 Additional RRs: 0 Queries mandrakesoft.com: type A, class inet Name: mandrakesoft.com Type: Host address Class: inet 00 04 5a 6b 35 5b 00 d0 b7 ad a0 6c 08 00 45 00 ..Zk5[.l..E. 0010 00 3e ae 6e 40 00 40 11 3e 8a c0 a8 01 0e cf 45 ..n@.@...E 0020 bc ba 85 46 00 35 00 2a 98 21 46 3d 01 00 00 01 ...F.5.*.!F= 0030 00 00 00 00 00 00 0c 6d 61 6e 64 72 61 6b 65 73 ...mandrakes 0040 6f 66 74 03 63 6f 6d 00 00 01 00 01 oft.com. Frame 10251 (181 bytes on wire, 181 bytes captured) Arrival Time: Nov 28, 2002 13:05:59.022457000 Time delta from previous packet: 0.137924000 seconds Time relative to first packet: 15497.096477000 seconds Frame Number: 10251 Packet Length: 181 bytes Capture Length: 181 bytes Ethernet II, Src: 00:04:5a:6b:35:5b, Dst: 00:d0:b7:ad:a0:6c Destination: 00:d0:b7:ad:a0:6c (INTEL_ad:a0:6c) Source: 00:04:5a:6b:35:5b (The_6b:35:5b) Type: IP (0x0800) Internet Protocol, Src Addr: 207.69.188.186 (207.69.188.186), Dst Addr: 192.168.1.14 (192.168.1.14) Version: 4 Header length: 20 bytes Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00) 00.. = Differentiated Services Codepoint: Default (0x00) ..0. = ECN-Capable Transport (ECT): 0 ...0 = ECN-CE: 0 Total Length: 167 Identification: 0x1f76 Flags: 0x00 .0.. = Don't fragment: Not set ..0. = More fragments: Not set Fragment offset: 0 Time to live: 55 Protocol: UDP (0x11) Header checksum: 0x161a (correct) Source: 207.69.188.186 (207.69.188.186) Destination: 192.168.1.14 (192.168.1.14) User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: domain (53), Dst Port: 34118 (34118) Source port: domain (53) Destination port: 34118 (34118) Length: 147 Checksum: 0xec04 (correct) Domain Name System (response) Transaction ID: 0x463d Flags: 0x8180 (Standard query response, No error) 1... = Response: Message is a response .000 0... = Opcode: Standard query (0) .0.. = Authoritative: Server is not an authority for domain ..0.
[expert] cdrecord CDRW session blank
Hi experts, mi questuin is simple, i've been trying to blank a seesion on a CDRW but i've been receiving this error message(see attach) in all my atempts. I've sent it on a attach. because i thougth it was easier, if not please let me know for future questions. so anyone has an idea??? saludos -- Gonzalo Avaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usuario Linux desde Chile Linux User From CHILE [root@maxwell iso]# cdrecord -blank session dev=0,2,0 Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling scsidev: '0,2,0' scsibus: 0 target: 2 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'IDE-CD ' Identifikation : 'R/RW 8x4x32 ' Revision : ' 2.0' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO Supported modes: TAO PACKET RAW/R16 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 2 in real BLANK mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 0 seconds. Operation starts. cdrecord: Input/output error. blank unit: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: A1 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 13 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 9600s cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New LM 9.0 Install - another SCSI System
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Albert E. Whale wrote on Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:47:05PM -0500 : alt2 is the 2.2.19 kernel which does not support ext3 (or xfs or reiser or jfs), so your only option is ext2. My situation IMPROVES with alt2. Alt 2 is the solution, which BTW Does support ext3, or else I would not be able to reformat the / and /usr partitions which are ext3. [todd@fiji ~]$ urpmf kernel22 | grep ext3 [todd@fiji ~]$ urpmf kernel22 | grep ext2 kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2 kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/.depend kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/CHANGES kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/Makefile kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/acl.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/balloc.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/bitmap.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/dir.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/file.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/fsync.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/ialloc.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/inode.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/ioctl.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/namei.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/super.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/symlink.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/fs/ext2/truncate.c kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/include/linux/ext2_fs.h kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/include/linux/ext2_fs_i.h kernel22-source:/usr/src/linux-2.2.20/include/linux/ext2_fs_sb.h There are no ext3 drivers in the 2.2 kernel. I would lean toward this being a bug in DrakX for allowing you to format it to a fs type that your kernel can't support. In its defense, I believe it will normally install the regular 2.4 kernel by default, so that is probably the reason it's allowing you to do so. Further digging: [todd@fiji ~]$ urpmf ext3\.o\.gz kernel-BOOT-2.4.20.1mdk:/lib/modules/2.4.20-1mdkBOOT/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.o.gz kernel-enterprise-2.4.20.1mdk:/lib/modules/2.4.20-1mdkenterprise/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.o.gz kernel-secure-2.4.20.1mdk:/lib/modules/2.4.20-1mdksecure/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.o.gz kernel-linus2.4:/lib/modules/2.4.20-1mdklinus/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.o.gz kernel-2.4.20.1mdk:/lib/modules/2.4.20-1mdk/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.o.gz kernel-smp-2.4.20.1mdk:/lib/modules/2.4.20-1mdksmp/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.o.gz Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Mandrake: An amalgam of good ideas from RedHat, Debian, and MandrakeSoft. All in all, IMHO, an unbeatable combination. --Levi Ramsey on Cooker ML Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.4mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE97vB/lp7v05cW2woRAuIxAJ4lEC3lT+fZMCfh8KQs+y2L3UGHhACfawMe 2u4AOzbP3dmFi8fm/+k4qvA= =H8wy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mozilla 1.2.1
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 19:06, Vincent Danen wrote: On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 06:10 PM, James Sparenberg wrote: It's a little new eventually (meaning sometime probably in the next few days) it will show up in the cooker for test purposes and then once it's solid expect it to appear in updates. Depending on the box of the person doing the build it's a slow build for sure. What makes you think it'll be in updates? History more than anything else. Since in the past mandrake has put at least one edition above what comes with the cd's into updates. Yes it's a guess but one that does have some history behind it. James -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import {FE6F2AFD: 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] setup of serial ports
Okay, I'm feeling really stupid. I want to set up a box via serial cable. It is an openbsd configuration that needs a serial connect. Problem is it just now occurs to me that my mandrake 9.0 box doesn't recognize I have any serial ports. ??? What is up with that? XP sees them fine. Hard drake sees like 6 usb ports but no serial. I went to do a makedev and that doesn't even exist. ?? Has it be changed to something better? Serial is pretty darned basic. And while I'm at it, what happened to the hardware detection routine when booting that mandrake had that would detect a change? That is either broken or removed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mozilla 1.2.1
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 22:28, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 19:06, Vincent Danen wrote: On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 06:10 PM, James Sparenberg wrote: It's a little new eventually (meaning sometime probably in the next few days) it will show up in the cooker for test purposes and then once it's solid expect it to appear in updates. Depending on the box of the person doing the build it's a slow build for sure. What makes you think it'll be in updates? History more than anything else. Since in the past mandrake has put at least one edition above what comes with the cd's into updates. Yes it's a guess but one that does have some history behind it. James Besides, the likelihood of another bug cropping up in a codebase that large seems high enough to make the guess safe. (just eagerly waiting for the next ~5M update of stuff that I hardly ever use but have to leave installed for dependency reasons...) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cdrecord CDRW session blank
Gonzalo Avaria wrote: Hi experts, mi questuin is simple, i've been trying to blank a seesion on a CDRW but i've been receiving this error message(see attach) in all my atempts. I've sent it on a attach. because i thougth it was easier, if not please let me know for future questions. so anyone has an idea??? saludos [root@maxwell iso]# cdrecord -blank session dev=0,2,0 Have you tried it with the force switch? # cdrecord blank=session -force dev=0,2,0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mozilla 1.2.1
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 11:28 PM, James Sparenberg wrote: It's a little new eventually (meaning sometime probably in the next few days) it will show up in the cooker for test purposes and then once it's solid expect it to appear in updates. Depending on the box of the person doing the build it's a slow build for sure. What makes you think it'll be in updates? History more than anything else. Since in the past mandrake has put at least one edition above what comes with the cd's into updates. Yes it's a guess but one that does have some history behind it. Only if there is a security problem. Of course, this is Mozilla, which means there probably will be one. =) But it'll only go in updates if it fixes a security problem. Otherwise, your best bet would be to look at Club. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import {FE6F2AFD: 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} PGP.sig Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Updating SNF
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Weaver wrote: You mean you learned nothing about iptables and how to use them during that time using SNF? It was a learning experience. I stand corrected... - -- KevinO Matz's Law: A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE97wECjBS1mMJB+bQRAiOrAJ9dWgD9NUfyaFW9uhhkfQNuB7mgPACfcRfA Bl+T7glcmI4goSXUyJJuepI= =hfy1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com