Re: [expert] RAID10 vs RAID0+1 vs RAID1+0
On Sat 2003-02-15 at 16:22:22 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > Could someone explain to me the advantages and disadvantages of > RAID10 vs RAID0+1 vs RAID1+0? First note that usually RAID10 and RAID1+0 mean the same thing. You can see that by the fact that the your reference, peripheralstorage.com, has no page for raid1+0, but only raid10 and raid0+1. Another thing is, that RAID10 is more commonly used (see below for why). > I am about to setup a system that needs high disk IO and also > redundancy. Doest Linux support RAID10 or just 0+1 and 1+0? Linux (2.4) Software-RAID, which you are apparently speaking of (http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html), supports RAID level 0, 1, 4 and 5 and any combination thereof. I.e. RAID10 and RAID0+1 work fine, as would RAID50. [...] > Also, what is the difference between doing a setup A like this: > hda+hdb in RAID0 => md0 > hdc+hdd in RAID0 => md1 > md0+md1 in RAID1 => md3 == /var That's RAID0+1 (a stripe over mirrored disks). > and setup B like this: > hda+hdb in RAID1 => md0 > hdc+hdd in RAID1 => md1 > md0+md1 in RAID0 => md3 == /var That's RAID10 (a mirror of striped disks). > Which one is better, and why (latency, throughput, etc)? I have no definite answer about latency or throughput, but I would expect both to be about the same for both cases, because both have to do the same writes and reads. Especially throughput is probably limited by your bus systems (SCSI, PCI, ...), not the RAID array. RAID10 is the one more commonly used, because it has no obvious disadvantages compared to RAID0+1, but offers better redundancy with more than 4 disks: RAID0+1 fails as soon as one arbitrary disk of each stripe has failed, while RAID10 only fails if both disks of the same mirror fail. In your case performance is heavily dependend on your underlying IDE system. It behaves very bad when writing to two disk on the same bus. So it could be that timing issues with your IDE controller play a far bigger role than the chosen RAID level. You have to benchmark this yourself. Therefore setup B should put the mirrors on different IDE channels. The same is true for failure behaviour: If one disk on a IDE bus dies, the other one usally is not reachable anymore, either. As long as you take care of this (both disks of a mirror on different IDE channel), you should be fine I.e. setup B above is broken, because with hda+hdb both disks or the mirror will block themselves for read/write accesses and also fail together. If you set it up as hda+hdc in RAID1 => md0, hdb+hdd in RAID1 => md1, md0+md1 in RAID0 => md3, you should be fine. Either way, your redundancy will be only the same as that of a normal RAID1 (while on a SCSI bus it would be better), as will the performance (probably). HTH, Benjamin. msg66085/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] [OT] Latest on [MDK/Linux in general] support for DVD writers?!?
On Saturday 15 February 2003 08:50 pm, stefmit wrote: > Could anybody be kind enough as to provide some info/pointers to > what could be better suppported in Mandrake or Linux in general out > of the followings: I understand that Linux users should stay away from DVD-RW right now, as there is no standard on how they work. Apparently all are using proprietary drivers to run them, and while it might be possible to get one to work, it will only be specific for that brand. After a standard comes out, there should be a good number of programs out there to support them. Rob -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and lived happily ever after. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: [OT] Latest on [MDK/Linux in general] support for DVD writers?!?
Thx for the quick info. I think I made a mistake in my initial link ... I had it in another tab (where I started from) in my Mozilla ;) Here is the one I was supposed to post: http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20030207/dvd_burner-01.html As it stands now, it is the Sony you mentioned that seems to be "king of the hill" ... I will look in the newbie archives - next - for the software component, but I would still appreciate some first hand experience from members of this list, in the "combined" usage (soft- and hardware). Thx, Stef On Saturday 15 February 2003 11:04 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > The Sony DRU-500A is the best DVD burner out there at the moment, it does > both DVD-RW and DVD+RW. I personally own the Ricoh DVD+RW buner but i do > not have it on a linux box. > The software is what is concerned with Linux, not the burner... X-CD-Roast > is the best, then again there was a huge thread on this about a month ago > on the newbie list...lasted about 2 weeks. > Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] [OT] Latest on [MDK/Linux in general] support for DVD writers?!?
The Sony DRU-500A is the best DVD burner out there at the moment, it does both DVD-RW and DVD+RW. I personally own the Ricoh DVD+RW buner but i do not have it on a linux box. The software is what is concerned with Linux, not the burner... X-CD-Roast is the best, then again there was a huge thread on this about a month ago on the newbie list...lasted about 2 weeks. Rob >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of stefmit >> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:50 PM >> To: ExpertMandrake-List >> Subject: [expert] [OT] Latest on [MDK/Linux in general] support for DVD >> writers?!? >> >> >> Could anybody be kind enough as to provide some info/pointers to >> what could be >> better suppported in Mandrake or Linux in general out of the followings: >> >> http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_writers.shtml#The%2 >> 0Best%20of%20the%20Best! >> >> Are there any others higher quality DVD writers, not included >> above, that you >> have had good experience with, in regards to Linux (MDK in principal)? >> >> Thx, >> Stef >> >> P.S. I am not that much interested in copying movies and the >> likes, as much as >> backing up my systems on high capacity media ... besides making >> a "home" copy >> of my beloved DVDs from the monthly UK Linux Format magazine, >> that I receive >> at the office :) >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] [OT] Latest on [MDK/Linux in general] support for DVD writers?!?
Could anybody be kind enough as to provide some info/pointers to what could be better suppported in Mandrake or Linux in general out of the followings: http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_writers.shtml#The%20Best%20of%20the%20Best! Are there any others higher quality DVD writers, not included above, that you have had good experience with, in regards to Linux (MDK in principal)? Thx, Stef P.S. I am not that much interested in copying movies and the likes, as much as backing up my systems on high capacity media ... besides making a "home" copy of my beloved DVDs from the monthly UK Linux Format magazine, that I receive at the office :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] RAID0/1 or RAID1/0 howto
Hey everyone: I would like to know if DiskDrake supports RAID0+1 or RAID1+0, and how I can achieve these configurations using DiskDrake. If that can't be done, what's the easiest way I can implement these, since I know the kernel supports at least one of these methods. I did check out the RAID Howto, and it's in Appendix C, but I am wondering if there isn't another way of doing so that I can use while installing Mandrake. Thanks, gikoreno ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Qt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 February 2003 08:47 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > thanks for all your research, Greg. I realized a little while ago that > it was looking for the qt2 libraries, not the qt3. > > I figure that I have 3 options: > > force the installation of qt2 > I think qt2 can be installed alongside qt3, although you may have to get an src.rpm for 8.2 and tweak the spec file to install it on 9.0. You won't get the nice qt3 look that KDE3.1 has. It will look out of place on your desktop, kind of like a gtk app. > symlink /usr/lib/qt2/ to /usr/lib/qt3 > Might work, although I unzipped the sources and looked in the configure script and it has a pretty elaborate test script for qt2. You probably would have to hack in there for a little while. > or compile kcreatecd to use qt3. > This is really the same as above, although you probably would have to do more work in the sources to port it over. I can't see how this would be an easy job. If it was, I don't think the kreatecd project would be dead, or at lest dormant. There have not been any releases in 1-1/2 years, or updates to the site. It seems k3b and/or arson have taken over the lead as qt3.1/KDE3.1 front-ends for cdrecord. > other than #1, the other three are something I am not familar with, > and I doubt that #1 is advisable, and 2 seems iffy, and 3 seems rock > solid. > > any further assistance? Try e-roaster ;-) - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE+TvDbGu5uuMFlL5MRAgwFAJdCLuwExcEzIRv6k2YJ85faD9XjAJ9pBruJ PuphoYECAinvob5TSKKTKQ== =4Myr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Qt?
thanks for all your research, Greg. I realized a little while ago that it was looking for the qt2 libraries, not the qt3. I figure that I have 3 options: force the installation of qt2 symlink /usr/lib/qt2/ to /usr/lib/qt3 or compile kcreatecd to use qt3. other than #1, the other three are something I am not familar with, and I doubt that #1 is advisable, and 2 seems iffy, and 3 seems rock solid. any further assistance? Rob On Saturday 15 February 2003 04:14 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 15 February 2003 06:35 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > I am running KDE3.1 on 9.0. sorry for not being explicit. > > Rob, > > I'm looking at the kreatecd website and it looks like it was > developed for KDE2. Are you sure you're not being asked for QT2 > (which is not on your 9.0) not QT3 (which is on your 9.0). > > - -- > Greg > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+TtffGu5uuMFlL5MRAufmAJ0fJo6ftb6MXwNc96jaiN5KHQiOqwCcCTmM > 00/IH3AP91T7V8AlfAU70e8= > =Rgm/ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and lived happily ever after. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] adding scsi tape drive
g wrote: Michael Noble wrote: harddrake2 does see the scsi contoller, where I am having difficulty is setting up the device files in /dev for the tape drive. i have yet to setup a device file in linux, but many in unix. i will take a look to see what is required in linux. should not be all that different. and it is not. take a look at this, [incase you have not already] under kde, raise taskbar, click on: start application | what to do | read documents | read kde documents | \ unix manual pages | (8) sys. administration | makedev i tried it, but found that makedev was not installed. could also be why when i tried 'man makedev', i got a 'not found'. so i did not go any further with it. google should be a good place for a search. use advanced search and use words 'driver, linux, scsi, tape'. if you get a high hit count, add 'dat'. you could narrow further using 'dds' and 'adaptec'. enter words without ','. perseverance. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how to print 4 pdf pages on 1 printer page?
man mpage On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 12:49, SainTiss wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for an application which can handle "resizing" pages of a > pdf document, so that when printing it, there'd be let's say 4 pages on > each printer page... > > Acroread, kghostview, nor ghostview seem to be able to do that... > > Well, actually, kghostview can in theory, since there is such a setting > in the printer dialog, but it's just being done the wrong way, with > pages cut in half and such... > > Thanks > > Hans -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Qt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 February 2003 06:35 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > I am running KDE3.1 on 9.0. sorry for not being explicit. > Rob, I'm looking at the kreatecd website and it looks like it was developed for KDE2. Are you sure you're not being asked for QT2 (which is not on your 9.0) not QT3 (which is on your 9.0). - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+TtffGu5uuMFlL5MRAufmAJ0fJo6ftb6MXwNc96jaiN5KHQiOqwCcCTmM 00/IH3AP91T7V8AlfAU70e8= =Rgm/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Qt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 February 2003 06:35 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > > > QT3.1 is part of KDE 3.1 > > > > What version of MDK are you on? > > I am running KDE3.1 on 9.0. sorry for not being explicit. libqt-3.1.1 should already be installed on your machine then. Perhaps you mssing a symlink somewhere? Are you trying to install from source or do you have an mdk package? I would assume dfrom sources. Maybe you just do not have the development libraries installed. What is the output from rpm -qa | grep -i libqt - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+TtSBGu5uuMFlL5MRAtj5AJ9q2lJF10S9VXibRDSXsp85DDVdvgCcCkfE copu1LXcqYAL07/PwWLqUX8= =hXFn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Qt?
On Saturday 15 February 2003 02:23 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 15 February 2003 05:14 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > I am trying to compile kcreatecd-1.1.0, and it cannot find the Qt > > libraries on my machine. > > > > According rpmdrake to install qt3-3.1.1 would have to overhaul my > > system, and I can't find another version of qt either on a > > mandrake mirror or on rpmfind to install. > > > > Any thoughts? > > QT3.1 is part of KDE 3.1 > > What version of MDK are you on? I am running KDE3.1 on 9.0. sorry for not being explicit. Rob -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and lived happily ever after. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how to print 4 pdf pages on 1 printer page?
On Saturday 15 February 2003 12:49 pm, SainTiss wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for an application which can handle "resizing" pages of a > pdf document, so that when printing it, there'd be let's say 4 pages on > each printer page... > > Acroread, kghostview, nor ghostview seem to be able to do that... > > Well, actually, kghostview can in theory, since there is such a setting > in the printer dialog, but it's just being done the wrong way, with > pages cut in half and such... > > Thanks > > Hans Why not use the command line method. With whatever tool you like to use, convert the .pdf file to a .ps file (printing the .pdf to a file from Acroread will do). Then at the command line use the following commands. To convert your .ps so there are 4 logical pages to 1 physical page use: psnup -4 infile.ps outfile.ps depending upon your page sizes you may need to add input/output page size and orientation parameters. Check the man page (man psnup) for these, as there are many possible combinations. Then you can either view the output file (to ensure it is correct) and print from there or just print the file from the command line as follows: lpr outfile.ps Erik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] RAID10 vs RAID0+1 vs RAID1+0
go to Adaptec.com. They are the best resource for raid info. Rob >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of gikoreno >> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 3:22 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: [expert] RAID10 vs RAID0+1 vs RAID1+0 >> >> >> >> Hey everyone, >> >> Could someone explain to me the advantages and disadvantages of >> RAID10 vs RAID0+1 vs RAID1+0 ? I am about to setup a system that >> needs high disk IO and also redundancy. Doest Linux support >> RAID10 or just 0+1 and 1+0? >> I think I read somewhere that RAID10 was not supported (in the kernel). >> >> RAID10: >> http://www.peripheralstorage.com/snap/raid10.html >> >> RAID0+1: >> http://www.peripheralstorage.com/snap/raid0+1.html >> >> Also, what is the difference between doing a setup A like this: >> hda+hdb in RAID0 => md0 >> hdc+hdd in RAID0 => md1 >> md0+md1 in RAID1 => md3 == /var >> >> and setup B like this: >> hda+hdb in RAID1 => md0 >> hdc+hdd in RAID1 => md1 >> md0+md1 in RAID0 => md3 == /var >> >> Which one is better, and why (latency, throughput, etc)? >> >> Thanks a lot in advance >> >> gikoreno >> >> ___ >> Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com >> The most personalized portal on the Web! >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how to print 4 pdf pages on 1 printer page?
On Saturday 15 Feb 2003 8:49 pm, SainTiss wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for an application which can handle "resizing" pages of a > pdf document, so that when printing it, there'd be let's say 4 pages on > each printer page... > > Acroread, kghostview, nor ghostview seem to be able to do that... > > Well, actually, kghostview can in theory, since there is such a setting > in the printer dialog, but it's just being done the wrong way, with > pages cut in half and such... > As an experiment I tried it in Acroread. Scaling to print an A4 display to A5 paper is easy, but scaling to put several pages on one seems to be done only by the printer. I would imagine that this means that using this printer driver I would be able to do the same from any app that lets me access the printer setup, as KDE apps do. FWIW, my first attempt printed wrongly because I had incorrect settings, so I got 4 pages, but they were printed two on top of two - not at all the intention. Assuming that your printer has this facility, use the print setup to get your output. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Qt?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 February 2003 05:14 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > I am trying to compile kcreatecd-1.1.0, and it cannot find the Qt > libraries on my machine. > > According rpmdrake to install qt3-3.1.1 would have to overhaul my > system, and I can't find another version of qt either on a mandrake > mirror or on rpmfind to install. > > Any thoughts? QT3.1 is part of KDE 3.1 What version of MDK are you on? - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Tr3uGu5uuMFlL5MRAobgAJ46UU48IwRlyuoK4CQ2DgfQZC2HIACfWzPx bHicK94S2DxhI6RNAdu5CLs= =vTwK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Qt?
I am trying to compile kcreatecd-1.1.0, and it cannot find the Qt libraries on my machine. According rpmdrake to install qt3-3.1.1 would have to overhaul my system, and I can't find another version of qt either on a mandrake mirror or on rpmfind to install. Any thoughts? -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and lived happily ever after. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] RAID10 vs RAID0+1 vs RAID1+0
Hey everyone, Could someone explain to me the advantages and disadvantages of RAID10 vs RAID0+1 vs RAID1+0 ? I am about to setup a system that needs high disk IO and also redundancy. Doest Linux support RAID10 or just 0+1 and 1+0? I think I read somewhere that RAID10 was not supported (in the kernel). RAID10: http://www.peripheralstorage.com/snap/raid10.html RAID0+1: http://www.peripheralstorage.com/snap/raid0+1.html Also, what is the difference between doing a setup A like this: hda+hdb in RAID0 => md0 hdc+hdd in RAID0 => md1 md0+md1 in RAID1 => md3 == /var and setup B like this: hda+hdb in RAID1 => md0 hdc+hdd in RAID1 => md1 md0+md1 in RAID0 => md3 == /var Which one is better, and why (latency, throughput, etc)? Thanks a lot in advance gikoreno ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.0: patch VIA to enable UDMA100 not installed but yet reporting UDMA100, Cycle time 120 ns???
On Saturday February 15 2003 01:49 pm, Dave Laird wrote: > On Friday 14 February 2003 11:35 pm, vatbier wrote: > > What is a normal sustained transfer rate for UDMA5 in Linux ( > > what does "hdparm -t /dev/hda" return on your computer)? > > How in Win XP can I test the sustained transfer rate like in > > Linux with the command "hdparm -t /dev/hda" ? Would it be the > > same speed as in Linux ? > > hdparm -t /dev/hda1 > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.08 seconds = 30.71 MB/sec > > My UDMA is set by the motherboard resources, and is fast as the > dickens. I hope my answer helps in some way. > > Dave My drives are *udma5 with hdparm -t rates more than 50% better than 30.71 MB/sec (47+), on an ata/100 controller. Hdparm as most benchmarks are, is somewhat useful for seein if setting changes improve the hdparm results on your system, but they are irrelevant when it come to real world data tranfers, or comparing with other users and their systems. Hdparm -Tt measures meaningless burst rates. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Notebook Sans M$ Tax
On Saturday 15 February 2003 05:31 am, Charlie wrote: > On Saturday 15 February 2003 03:33 am, Felix Miata wrote: > > Anyone know who sells notebook PC's without the windoze tax included in > > the price? Wal Mart & Tiger Direct only seem to sell ordinary PC's that > > way. > > I only know about a couple Felix, but then I haven't looked lately. This > page was hangin' around my bookmarks for a while, maybe it's worth looking > at? > > http://www.oretek.com/laptops/ > > And the two links to vendors that I know about: > > "Acer recommends MicrosoftR WindowsR XP Professional for Mobile Computing." > That seems to mean they don't insist though. :-) > > http://www.qlilinuxpc.com/products/laptops/index.html > > These guys advertise "specialize in Linux compatible computers." They even > show Tux on their site. > > Best of luck. > > Regards; Try this link--desktop power in a notebook format and everything inside except the battery (which is optional) WITHOUT OS http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_nb_dsknt928ath.html Athlon XP 1500+ 256Mb DDR RAM DVD/CDRW 20G $995 US or $895 US without the CDRW which is refurbished. The rest is new. There are cheaper and more expensive models--caution is advised about the P4 models, because the chipset might be the infamous 845--have not been able to get further info on that. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] how to print 4 pdf pages on 1 printer page?
Hi, I'm looking for an application which can handle "resizing" pages of a pdf document, so that when printing it, there'd be let's say 4 pages on each printer page... Acroread, kghostview, nor ghostview seem to be able to do that... Well, actually, kghostview can in theory, since there is such a setting in the printer dialog, but it's just being done the wrong way, with pages cut in half and such... Thanks Hans -- In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates? Hans Schippers 1LIC INF UIA 2002-2003 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] Archiving Evolution mail
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 10:49, Stefano Pogliani wrote: > James, > > I have something like 2 GB of mails on my system and I am managing > them via IMAP. > Evolution (but also Kmail, Mozilla, SquirrelMail, Outlook-on-W2000 > etc, can all access those mails. > > It was tricky with Evolution to discover which options where good to > get good performances, but now I am very happy. > > /Stefano Could you give me a hint at least *grin*!!! > > On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 10:02, James Sparenberg wrote: > > All, > > > > Ok I'm hitting a wall here with close to 200,000 e-mails in evolution > > I'm at a point where I really need to be able to archive a ton of this > > off. BUT I also need access to these without jumping through hoops. > > Any suggestions on how to do this? To say the least evo's starting to > > get very very slow. Any help will be very much appreciated. > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] "dump" for reiserfs?
I haven't backed up my system for sometime, and I experimented using dump as well as tar for backups. Tar can be used of course but is there a version of dump that will work for reiserfs? I upgraded to dump 0.4b32 on cooker and it now supports ext3 but not reiserfs. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Notebook Sans M$ Tax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 February 2003 05:33 am, Felix Miata wrote: > Anyone know who sells notebook PC's without the windoze tax included in > the price? Wal Mart & Tiger Direct only seem to sell ordinary PC's that > way. http://www.mwave.com - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+TpmFGu5uuMFlL5MRAvUKAKCO4R98bNFEFeay6xaGLWldA1y3ewCfXukw cFxpo5c/m4kbvd7oUgx3FXA= =uLfK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.0: Fresh install, found one file 2 GB big, "e2fsck-f -c /dev/hda2" returns errors:
Hi, "[root@mycom root]# e2fsck -f -c /dev/hda2 e2fsck 1.26 (3-Feb-2002) /dev/hda2 is mounted. WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage. Do you really want to continue (y/n)? yes You did not remount your /dev/hda2 read-only, then you said yes when it warned you, this most likely caused the problem. Reboot into single user mode and do it them mount -o remount,ro / this might not work if you have active processes runining, so kill off any that give problems. Or you could put this code in your rc.sysinit before your system really starts I guess. Cheers JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.0: patch VIA to enable UDMA100 not installed but yet reporting UDMA100, Cycle time 120 ns???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 February 2003 11:35 pm, vatbier wrote: > What is a normal sustained transfer rate for UDMA5 in Linux ( what does > "hdparm -t /dev/hda" return on your computer)? > How in Win XP can I test the sustained transfer rate like in Linux with > the command "hdparm -t /dev/hda" ? Would it be the same speed as in > Linux ? hdparm -t /dev/hda1 Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.08 seconds = 30.71 MB/sec My UDMA is set by the motherboard resources, and is fast as the dickens. I hope my answer helps in some way. Dave - -- Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 01/20/2003 Usenet News server: news.kharma.net Musicians Calendar and Database access: http://www.kharma.net/calendar.html An automatic & random thought For the Minute: There are three things I have always loved and never understood -- art, music, and women. If a listener nods his head when you're explaining your program, wake him up. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Tpm4aE1ENZP1A28RAjbbAJ9JgEt7sqB/JL0gK2WgQywTuWMWAACghnxu 9Bdz0zxfQNn1c+QVnii9/Js= =gMjy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Notebook Sans M$ Tax
Perhaps Gateway? Felix Miata wrote: Anyone know who sells notebook PC's without the windoze tax included in the price? Wal Mart & Tiger Direct only seem to sell ordinary PC's that way. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Xnest questions
On Saturday 15 February 2003 12:18 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 21:16, Jack Coates wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 20:43, James Sparenberg wrote: > > ... > > > > > I do this with VNC all the time. My desktop runs tight vnc but only > > > inits to run level 3 ... then from work etc I can get into it no > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > PS rfbdrake and Remote Desktop Connection both provide access this way > > > ... and it's a heck of a lot less bandwidth hungry than normal X. > > > > ... > > > > ooh boy, a religious war! heh-heh :-) Actually VNC does use less > > bandwidth, but X is still more responsive for me, even over relatively > > low-bandwidth high-latency links, because X isn't doing the screen > > scrape and poll-my-mouse crud. Now if you're using a pixmapped theme and > > the pixmaps are all on the other end of a modem... > > Of course a religious war. Whatdya expect form an old alterboy! > *grin*. The reasons you don't like VNC is why IMHO MDK had the wisdom > to switch to tightVNC. It doesn't do the poll-my-mouse crud (The > concept is the mouse is on the local box why draw it twice. So they use > a 1x1px spot on the screen at the tip of your local mouse. I've used it > over a 56k connection with iceWM as the wm and it was a bit clunky but > faster than pcNowhere on Broadband and screen updates paints and lauches > where much faster. > > James I tunnel tightVNC through an SSH connection. It's slow on a 56K connection but the nice thing is that it makes it much tougher for someone else to connect to your box from the internet (if you have a firewall blocking the VNC ports). I've heard that VPN is a better solution but I haven't had time to play with it. That's my paranoid 2 cents worth. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Avoid American CompuTech - was Notebook Sans M$ Tax
I looked at the portableez.com site that somebody just mentioned, and I thought I'd throw out a warning regarding another company that sells this notebook: Don't buy anything from http://www.americancomputech.com/ These people are lying and deceiving sons of bitches. I ordered a notebook from them for a client just before moving across the country. I wasn't there when he received it, but he was content to get it ready for work by himself. (He's an attorney.) What a nightmare. * He got it, and right off the bat, it was the wrong color. This is not ordinarily a big deal, but the one he ordered was silver, pretty cool looking, and the color was -advertised-as-a-feature-. * Second, it came with instructions to make a change to the BIOS. But the instructions were wrong because since the time those docs were written, the wording in the BIOS changed. A computer guy probably would have been able to figure it out, but he couldn't, and he was damned if he was going to pay some computer guy fix it. * Third, there was some software that wouldn't load, although it would load fine on his lower-powered desktop computer. So he decided to send it back. He went to the web site because there was an RMA form. The form was gone or unlinked. So he called them, and the phone just rang. After numerous tries, they finally answered. He explained the problems and asked for a RMA. They had an excuse for all his problems, so they refused give him one! They finally agreed to to take the computer back, but to charge him a restocking fee of 15% (~$200), and they wouldn't give him a number until he faxed them a signed document promising to pay the fee. He needs the RMA, so he decides to do it. Guess what? Their fax line doesn't work for two days! Finally, like three weeks later he gets an RMA. Absolutely unbelievable, these &@$!# assholes. So remember the moral of this story: Avoid americancomputech.com. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Archiving Evolution mail
James, I have something like 2 GB of mails on my system and I am managing them via IMAP. Evolution (but also Kmail, Mozilla, SquirrelMail, Outlook-on-W2000 etc, can all access those mails. It was tricky with Evolution to discover which options where good to get good performances, but now I am very happy. /Stefano On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 10:02, James Sparenberg wrote: All, Ok I'm hitting a wall here with close to 200,000 e-mails in evolution I'm at a point where I really need to be able to archive a ton of this off. BUT I also need access to these without jumping through hoops. Any suggestions on how to do this? To say the least evo's starting to get very very slow. Any help will be very much appreciated. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Notebook Sans M$ Tax
On Saturday 15 February 2003 2:33 am, Felix Miata wrote: > Anyone know who sells notebook PC's without the windoze tax included in > the price? Wal Mart & Tiger Direct only seem to sell ordinary PC's that > way. Have a look at the ECS notebooks on http://www.portablez.com. I'm seriously considering getting the G732 for LAN party gaming. -- Cheers, Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] adding scsi tape drive
Michael Noble wrote: tc,hago harddrake2 does see the scsi contoller, where I am having difficulty is setting up the device files in /dev for the tape drive. i have yet to setup a device file in linux, but many in unix. i will take a look to see what is required in linux. should not be all that different. google should be a good place for a search. use advanced search and use words 'driver, linux, scsi, tape'. if you get a high hit count, add 'dat'. you could narrow further using 'dds' and 'adaptec'. As for baking up there are many ways to do that g(tar) is very good. Have not looked at dump or or some of the others that are offered on MD 9.0. i have never used gtar. what happens if gtar hits a bad spot? At this point I am about to reload the system while the scsi card and tape drive are in the system. I really do not want to as I would have to put everything back that has been setup and without a backup method it makes that kinda difficult, but I have done it before. if you do, save your configs, then do an overwrite after new install. Thanks for all of your help. for no more than what it has been, you are most welcome. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Archiving Evolution mail
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 02:02, James Sparenberg wrote: > All, > > Ok I'm hitting a wall here with close to 200,000 e-mails in evolution > I'm at a point where I really need to be able to archive a ton of this > off. BUT I also need access to these without jumping through hoops. > Any suggestions on how to do this? To say the least evo's starting to > get very very slow. Any help will be very much appreciated. > > James the mailboxes are just mbox files with an associated index. Copy the mbox out of ~/evolution/local/[foldername]/ into an archived mail directory, then delete the folder from Evolution. When you want to look for one of the old mails, use grepmail. Here's a script that will illustrate usage and dump the results back into a new mbox: #!/bin/sh # This is a wrapper to the grepmail Perl script which searches mailboxes. # The wrapper will take its regexp from the commandline, recursively search # a mail folder, then put the results into a new mailbox named "results.$TERM". # If no parameters, show proper usage and fail. if [ $# -lt 1 ] ; then echo "Usage: grepmymail \"singleterm\"" echo "Usage: grepmymail \"(1term|2terms|3terms)\"" exit 2 fi # Options: -R is recursive, -m adds a header line showing the mailbox # the message was found in, -M skips MIME attachments, and -b searches # bodies, not headers. for TERM in $1; do grepmail -RmMb $TERM $HOME/mail > /tmp/results.$TERM mv /tmp/results.$TERM $HOME/mail/ done -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Xnest questions
On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 23:18, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 21:16, Jack Coates wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 20:43, James Sparenberg wrote: > > ... > > > I do this with VNC all the time. My desktop runs tight vnc but only > > > inits to run level 3 ... then from work etc I can get into it no > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > PS rfbdrake and Remote Desktop Connection both provide access this way > > > ... and it's a heck of a lot less bandwidth hungry than normal X. > > > > > ... > > > > ooh boy, a religious war! heh-heh :-) Actually VNC does use less > > bandwidth, but X is still more responsive for me, even over relatively > > low-bandwidth high-latency links, because X isn't doing the screen > > scrape and poll-my-mouse crud. Now if you're using a pixmapped theme and > > the pixmaps are all on the other end of a modem... > > Of course a religious war. Whatdya expect form an old alterboy! > *grin*. The reasons you don't like VNC is why IMHO MDK had the wisdom > to switch to tightVNC. It doesn't do the poll-my-mouse crud (The > concept is the mouse is on the local box why draw it twice. So they use > a 1x1px spot on the screen at the tip of your local mouse. I've used it > over a 56k connection with iceWM as the wm and it was a bit clunky but > faster than pcNowhere on Broadband and screen updates paints and lauches > where much faster. > > James does the Windows port of VNC support this? I've only used VNC to view Windows boxen from Linux, and it's always godawful, even over a LAN. I can't use my Linux programs while I'm using vncviewer because any overlap of windows causes the whole VNC session to repaint itself for 90 seconds. rdesktop is a lot better, if the remote machine is W2K and has Citrix^H^H^H^H^H^HTerminal Services installed. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Xnest questions
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 16:13, Chuck Burns wrote: > On Friday 14 February 2003 4:35 pm, Jack Coates wrote: > *snip* > > > > http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/remote-x-cygwin-howto > *snip* > I read that howto before asking the question. It doesn't tell me how to > disable the local X screen, only how to set up the remote one. Sorry, I thought it was clear that you don't need a local one. Edit /etc/inittab and set runlevel to 3, then telinit 3. If you want to be adventurous and reclaim some disk space, you can uninstall most of the X stuff and just leave Xlibs. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2.4.19 ping problem
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:01:34 -0800 Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > David Relson wrote on Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 04:40:35PM -0500 : > > > > About a month ago, I updated from Mandrake 8.2 to Mandrake 9.0 (with > > kernel going from 2.4.18-6mdk to 2.4.19-16mdk) and changed ISPs from > > DirecTV to DigitalRealm (with attendant change in DSL modem). Since > > then I have noticed that my script hangs fairly reqularly - sometimes > > once a day, sometimes several times a day. > > Shot in the dark here: > > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn > > Blue skies... Todd That would be a permanent problem. How about expiring ARP entries? -- don't have the original post; but I seem to recall the script doing a single ping... when I was chasing a link problem a couple of years ago, single pings would fail intermittently... changed the script to 2 pings since the first one is converted to an ARP when there is no ARP entry. Pierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Notebook Sans M$ Tax
On Saturday 15 February 2003 05:33 am, Felix Miata wrote: > Anyone know who sells notebook PC's without the windoze tax included in > the price? Wal Mart & Tiger Direct only seem to sell ordinary PC's that > way. check dell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] More a KDE problem, I think
One thing that winds me up is that I can open Konq as a user, then open a super-user window, and they stack up under one icon on the task bar. I can see no indication that they are any different, which means that If I don't close the su one immediately I can forget that it is open. I really don't like this. Surely there ought to be some way of differentiating them? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Notebook Sans M$ Tax
On Saturday 15 February 2003 03:33 am, Felix Miata wrote: > Anyone know who sells notebook PC's without the windoze tax included in > the price? Wal Mart & Tiger Direct only seem to sell ordinary PC's that > way. I only know about a couple Felix, but then I haven't looked lately. This page was hangin' around my bookmarks for a while, maybe it's worth looking at? http://www.oretek.com/laptops/ And the two links to vendors that I know about: "Acer recommends MicrosoftR WindowsR XP Professional for Mobile Computing." That seems to mean they don't insist though. :-) http://www.qlilinuxpc.com/products/laptops/index.html These guys advertise "specialize in Linux compatible computers." They even show Tux on their site. Best of luck. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org The difference between a good haircut and a bad one is seven days. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Archiving Evolution mail
cheers(); > Ok I'm hitting a wall here with close to 200,000 e-mails in evolution > I'm at a point where I really need to be able to archive a ton of this > off. BUT I also need access to these without jumping through hoops. > Any suggestions on how to do this? To say the least evo's starting to > get very very slow. Any help will be very much appreciated. http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution is probably the place to go. Two suggestions: - You can turn off indexing to reduce disc space. - vFolders seem to be greedy karsten -- Davision - Atelier fuer Gestaltung / Internet / Multimedia UNIX / Linux Netzwerke und Schulungen - www.linux-campus.de Telefon 06151/17865 Fax 06151/178659 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] mozilla and printing
The difference betweek kmail and mozilla is that all KDE applications
use the KDE printing system (located in the KDE control center).
This detected my CUPS server (running FreeBSD) out of the box, without
any hassles.
Mozilla and other apps (like OpenOffice) use the default Unix commands
to print (which interface with CUPS).
So what you need to do is configure that serperately using the Mandrake
Control Center.
If you already have your printers configured there, make sure that you
have a default printer. This will be used when doing lpr on the
command line.
There's always the workarround to always print with the KDE printer
system (which has additional options).
Just print to a ps (postscript) file in Mozilla, OO, ... then open a
terminal window and type 'kprinter '.
Good luck
Guy
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 00:56, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
> Lorne wrote:
> > Okay,
> >
> > I was sure this was discussed here before, but I can't find it. I use 9.0 and
> > mozilla. I am using cups printing. From Kmail I can print just fine. But from
> > within Mozilla I can not. It has a funky lpr syntax and I don't know how to
> > configure this so I can print to my remote smb printer. Any help appreciated.
> > here is the default syntax: PostScript/default. Then in properties it is: lpr
> > ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}
> >
> >>From within Kmail it is simply name: HP4 and print system currently in use:
> > Cups
> >
>
> What I know about the mozilla print command is that you can change it to
> what you want but it won't be saved for the next session, so you have to
> change it each sesssion. There is a bug about this at mozilla bugzilla.
> For instance, I can change this to kprinter --stdin and get the
> kprinter dialog to choose printers and parameters. I don't know about
> printing to a remote smb printer but maybe that is accessible in
> kprinter for you or maybe it is a matter of adding --stdin to the end of
> the print command that works for you on the command line.
>
>
>
> __
>
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Re: [expert] Xnest questions
On Friday 14 February 2003 4:35 pm, Jack Coates wrote: *snip* > > > http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/remote-x-cygwin-howto *snip* I read that howto before asking the question. It doesn't tell me how to disable the local X screen, only how to set up the remote one. -- Chuck Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Notebook Sans M$ Tax
Anyone know who sells notebook PC's without the windoze tax included in the price? Wal Mart & Tiger Direct only seem to sell ordinary PC's that way. -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Archiving Evolution mail
All, Ok I'm hitting a wall here with close to 200,000 e-mails in evolution I'm at a point where I really need to be able to archive a ton of this off. BUT I also need access to these without jumping through hoops. Any suggestions on how to do this? To say the least evo's starting to get very very slow. Any help will be very much appreciated. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.0: patch VIA to enable UDMA100 not installed but yet reporting UDMA100, Cycle time 120 ns???
--- vatbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then I found on viaarena.com this patch for ML8.2: > VIA ML8.2 ATA133-100 Patch 686B-8231-8233x-8235 ver 0.91A.gz > contains a patch file mdk8.2-patch-2.4.18-vpide.gz date: 20/9/02 > and a readme.pdf: > VIA ML8.2 ATA133-100 Patch Readme.pdf: > > "hdparm -t /dev/hda: sustained transfer rate of the disk reads: > ... > VT8233 Original Kernel 23,7 MB/sec >rebuilt kernel with 39,75 MB/sec > Patch IDE > > So either my kernel is already patched and for some other reason only > manages 26,67 MB/sec for sustained transfer rate or it isn't patched > yet and incorrectly states that I have a UDMA100 driver. > > hdparm on my ML9.0 shows the same speeds. Does ML9.0 has this patch > from > VIA already included? > I looked at this patch mdk8.2-patch-2.4.18-vpide and compared it to ML9.0: usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers/ide/pci/via82cxxx.c /usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/include/linux/pci_ids.h The via82cxxx.c of ML9.0 seems updated with this patch (but not entirely), but pci_ids.h does not (e.g. "-#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8233_00x3074 +#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8233 0x3074" in pci_ids.h it still reads "VIA_8233_0"). I'm not familiar with looking at patches but I get the feeling it mostly adds udma133 support. I have VIA 8233 and ML9.0:via82cxxx.c looks like I should get UDMA100 speeds for hdparm -t /dev/hda. But I'm getting just 26,67 MB/sec instead of the near 40 MB/sec speed they promise. Or there other parameters that influence hdparm -t /dev/hda? (Somewhere I read that "I/O support = 1(32-bit)" should be set to 3, or set "unmaskirq = 1 (on)" to 0 for better performances). So again what does hdparm -t /dev/hda return on your computer (with or without VIA 8233 and/or Western Digital hard drives) ? vatbier __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
I thought this would have been a required package to be installed by default but its not installed. I have been browsing through my RH security book "Red Hat Linux Security and Optimization" by Mohammed Kabir. I was actually going through the RH8 security section on NFS and it pointed to securing portmon which pointed to tcpwrappers. I then looked in the book to find more detailed info than what i was finding on websites about NFS/tcpwrappers and it showed that xinetd should be compiled running the configure script with "--with-libwrap=/usr/libwrap.a". So i looked for the file "libwrap.a" to see if it was installed and no it was not. I then looked to check to see if tcpd (tcpwrappers) was installed and no it was not. I was wondering why this was so. Any thoughts? Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
