Re: [expert] application/buffered/cache
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 20:29, kiosk wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm a recent convert to default MDK 9.1 [+ relevant security updates] > after using slackware for a couple of years [and RedHat, Suse, before > that]. I'm really very impressed by MDK but there's one thing which is > bugging me. > > I realize that unused memory is wasted memory [in the words of linus > himself, IIRC] but I wonder if the pattern of memory usage I'm > experiencing is to be expected when using MDK. I have 512Mb RAM and the > same amount of swap. I see the amount of memory used creeping ever upward > and I find myself wondering what would happen were I to attempt to > achieve the kind of uptime which some of you here seem to regard as > reasonable - that is to say, months, if not years. > > I'm dual booting with Win2000 and never have much more than 24hrs uptime > with linux due to the demands of an email account set up on the Win2000 > side. Ideally i would adopt MDK as my OS of choice if it were not for this > paranoia regarding memory use. > > At the time of writing, after 2 days and 10 hours uptime with MDK, I'm on > the verge of swapping. I reduced runnning services to a minimum shortly > after install, and tend to average around 51 processes running at any > given time, most of which are due to KDE's requirements. I have no network > other than ppp with my external modem and I'm not using much other than > Sylpheed and Pan most of the time. "Top" doesn't show anything unusual > other than memory use slowly but surely increasing. i did use swap after > a wonderful extended session with the Gimp but i'm wondering what will > happen if I start compiling kernels, etc, too ... > > Am i just someone who ought to get out more often or is this kind of > memory usage atypical? I ought to add that I'm using the most recent > NVIDIA drivers with an unsupported Intel chipset, so the agpgart module > does not load. > > Asus P4G8X Deluxe > 512 Mb RAM > 2 x WDC 40 Gig > MSI Ti4800SE 8x > Samsung TFT monitor > 3Com USRobotics external modem > MS intellimouse > Standard PS2 type Keyboard [UK] > ... no other peripherals > ... Firewire, Onboard NIC, USB, as yet unused ... > > > apologies for being so verbose. No problem on the verbosity... better than "doesn't work" *grin*. On memory usage. I'm running 380MB here and yes. Reading top shows that memory is always topped out But I rarely if every swap. Linux Mac FreeBSD Windows all do this. They "preload" as much of the OS as possible into ram and then prioritize it. Meaning Much of what is in there is there "just in case" you need something fast. However even with ram usage appearing maxed out it actually isn't if a program needs ram then as much as is possible (and the more you have the more that is possible) is cleared up instantly for you to use. Since ram is always faster than disk this is a big boost to performance. Suffice it to say my box always appears about to swap.. and never does. Even when I run win4lin and a user mode linux install at the same time as my main install I still don't swap. With 512 megs of Ram like you have there may be 20 megs (or less not sure) that will never be available to non os related processes ... but the rest is there whenever you need it. James > > many thanks, > > Janet Blankfield > > > "Some doubt the existence of the sun > as it slides (like God) between the girders." > > - > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Acrobat Reader installation fails
Yes, I installed ed and that fixed the problem. Thanks everyone who suggested this. /POL On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 02:40, Brian Schroeder wrote: Hi Per-Olof, I'm a bit late on this thread, and was expecting someone else to suggest this, but not seeing it: Have you tried installing the ed package? I ran into the same problem, and, after installing ed, it worked perfectly. My system shows that ed-0.2-29mdk is now installed. Brian. >From: "Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun >Microsystems)" Greetings, > >I've attempted to install Acrobat Reader on my 9.1 system, and I get the >following error - apparently the installer expects to use a command that >isn't available. See below. > >Can anyone help out? > > > >Enter installation directory for Acrobat 5.0.5 [/usr/local/Acrobat5] > >Installing platform independent files ... Done > >Installing platform dependent files ... Done >./INSTALL: line 219: ed: command not found >ERROR installing /usr/local/Acrobat5/bin/acroread _ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- --- Per-Olof Litby Phone: +46 8 631-1463 Regional Mgr - Nordic/Baltic Fax:+46 8 631-1005 Java Web Services Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems --- Calendar URL below (Sun only) http://namefinder.germany/nfcal.cgi?-s+23213 --- I've got this great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom. ---
[expert] Apache redirects incorrectly
Hi everybody, i'm new in the list, and i've got a problem with Apache under Mandrake 8. I've got an Apache server running on a Windows XP, and everything works ok, but now i'm trying to configure it to run under Linux. The problem is that the page links do not redirect to the localhost but to the URL: Under XP: http://localhost/ all the links in the page refer to localhost. Under Linux: http://localhost/ then all the links in the page refer to http://www.elacuariodeaguadulce.com wich is the Internet URL. Really i don't know why the Apache server redirects it to the URL instead of the localhost. The server is Apache, running PHP and MySQL. Does anybody knows it? (I don't know if the question is clear enought) Thanks in advance, Chus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Ongoing libraries saga (e.g. qtopia, nagios, probablyeverything non-MDK)
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 20:53, stefmit wrote: > On Sunday 15 June 2003 12:14 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > > > > > The only other issue you cited, AFAICT, is that Mandrake's package of > > nagios puts files in more than one directory: > > > > # rpm -qpl /backup/contrib/nagios-1.0b6-1mdk.i586.rpm > > /etc/nagios > > /etc/nagios/cgi.cfg > > /etc/nagios/checkcommands.cfg > > /etc/nagios/contactgroups.cfg > > /etc/nagios/contacts.cfg > > /etc/nagios/dependencies.cfg > > /etc/nagios/escalations.cfg > > /etc/nagios/hostgroups.cfg > > /etc/nagios/hosts.cfg > > /etc/nagios/misccommands.cfg > > /etc/nagios/nagios.cfg > > /etc/nagios/resource.cfg > > /etc/nagios/services.cfg > > /etc/nagios/timeperiods.cfg > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/nagios > > /usr/lib/nagios/plugins > > /usr/sbin/nagios > > /usr/share/doc/nagios-1.0b6 > > /usr/share/doc/nagios-1.0b6/Changelog > > /usr/share/doc/nagios-1.0b6/INSTALLING > > /usr/share/doc/nagios-1.0b6/LEGAL > > /usr/share/doc/nagios-1.0b6/README > > /usr/share/doc/nagios-1.0b6/UPGRADING > > /usr/share/doc/nagios-1.0b6/htaccess.sample > > /var/log/nagios > > /var/log/nagios/archives > > > > I am not sure what you are comparing to but this list does not seem > > inconsistent with the typical Mandrake package, which should strive to > > comply with LSB, which invokes FHS2.2: > > > > http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/ > > > > Different entities have different interpretations/levels of interest in > > complying with LSB, so you will have to deal with these inconsistencies. > > Furthermore, contrib/ are considered unsupported, so, with all the > > other concerns Mandrake has, I doubt that complaints about contrib/ > > packages will receive a high priority. There is no comparison to > > Windows. Linux is not Windows. What works in Windows is, usually, > > irrelevant. You should put some effort into learning how Mandrake works > > before you try to re-invent the wheel, IMO. > > > > Rolf > > Who in the world cares about this? The guy(s?!?) who put their time and brains > into developing nagios, have done so with a specific placement of files and > directory structure in mind. This is CROSS-PLATFORM development. People like > me look toward Linux as the platform of choice for RUNNING nagios, as much as > this can suprise many, and unless nagios developers think otherwise, their > choice of installation should be respected as such, even when packaging their > work - to everyone's benefit. Because of the way it has been done, I have > been setting/changing/re-configuring and documenting this thing for days, > just to make it work ... and trust me - I have gained NOTHING by doing so > (there is no value added to knowledge levels, just because one has to go > through all possible configuration files, and change them to match the > "standard" placement of files). I would have rather liked to get the package > default to where the author decided to have it installed, and (perhaps) be > offered the choice - for the "standard fans" - to have it installed in a > structure like you and me found to exist .. rather than the other way around. > > Have YOU actually tried to configure and run nagios, from the "simple" way it > is being installed by the MDK package? Don't give me the great "LSB" > discourse, then, please .. > > By the way: I have put lots of effort into learning Linux, years ago - not as > a developer - true!, but rather as a "tool" user ... Mandrake may be > something else to learn, in which case I would be tempted to agree with you, > but I honestly - really - had great hopes for it to still be Linux ... or am > I wrong here (e.g. libraries MDK "naming" convention come to mind right away, > when thinking that the two are not really one and the same .. see other > similar comments on this thread, about this ;))? > > Stef Ok,,, One thing I've seen lately in the Cooker is a fair amount of argument over setting things up like this .. Major problem LSB certification is vital to the survival of MDK. Never expect MDK to ignore the LSB, especially since some of the MDK people where the ones who helped push it into existence. Next is the fact that up until now (with the latest version of rpm) Some of the tools needed to do the things needed weren't there. To that end I submit the following links. Remember to that MDK is a publisher.. Other than their own tools all they do is publish. BUT, with publishers come editors, and an editors job is to make sure that the authors product is saleable, all the I's are dotted etc. A whole section of Maximum RPM is now dedicated to building RPMS cross-distro and cross-platform (now we just need to get people to read it.) http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/ch-rpm-multi.html For the whole "book" http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/ Some additional "moves" have been made for people who build on MDK at least. rpm-lint has been tightned up. I found this out because I can't do some "tricks" I used to do to shortcut simple rpms. Finally if you have
[expert] Mouse dies after suspending
Greetings, I've tried using the pmsuspend script available with Mandrake 9.1 and it seems to work fine with 2 exceptions: The mouse (USB wheel mouse) stops working after wake up from suspension Both suspending and wake up are very slow. Does anyone know if the mouse problem can be fixed? thanks, -- Untitled Document --- Per-Olof Litby Phone +46 8 631-1463 Regional Mgr - Nordic/Baltic Fax +46 8 631-1005 Java Web Services Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems --- Calendar URL below (Sun only) http://namefinder.germany/nfcal.cgi?-s+23213 --- I've got this great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom. ---
[expert] Radeon 9700 + nforce2- nvidia 1.0261 drivers (with agpgart patch for 3rd party graphics cards) and ML 9.1
Hi everyone, Did anyone succeed in getting them work together nicely? If so please explain step by step like for an retarded idiot:) how you did it. I got it to the point that the agpgart module loads and the fglrx module loads. In X fglrxinfo displays the ATI driver and also the OpenGL from ATI and not the Mesa one. Though everything seems fine, I cannot start any application including fgl_glxgears or tuxracer without my PC freezing. I looked in the /var/log/kernel/errors and saw something about fglrx:firegl_unlock drm_ioremapfree and an attempt to call something on a NULL. Funny stuff is that I have no other warning/error whatsoever in dmesg, XFree86 log or messages. :/ When I try to start fgl_glxgears PC freezes instantly without doing anything (I remain in the screen where I tried starting it). Only a hard reboot is possible (no Ctrl-Bksp, no SysReq, nada). :( I thought maybe something screwy is going on with my fgl_glxgears so I tried Tuxracer. A bit better. My screen went black and monitor made the "click" it does when changing video modes, stayed there for a few seconds and then monitor switched to standby like it does when no signal comes (for ex when PC is off). In the meantime I could hear an endless looping sound in my headset. :( Also beside hard reset nothing of the "normal" ways to regain control of the PC worked :( I switched on my TV to see if it outputs there something, but no go (thought the rascal switched output to the TV-OUT maybe). :( I got the latest ati driver for X 4.3.0 (I think is 2.9.12). Did a clean kernel recompile, a clean uninstall and rebuild/reinstall of the NVIDIA_nforce driver for the agpgart and also cleanly uninstalled and installed the fglrx driver. Same simptom. :( Am going nuts. So please if you managed to do it tell me how and any thoughts on how to debug the crash. If it would have been a kernel panick (lights on keyb) I would have used the autodump of the ksymoops... :( Thanks in advance. Best regards, Adrian
Re: [expert] Make xconfig doesn't work in new kernel
Hi James, actually - I had created back in time a so called "Quicky" section - text based. I was thinking in getting it rewritten in the style of my FAQ module (with search capabilities etc.). Maybe - as I'm getting unemployed by the end of the Week - I'll start coding a module for phpWebSite that does exactly this :) You can see the FAQ on my Home-site :) Really neat :) PS: I'm going to get a Via EPIA 5000 and a VIA Nemiah M1 systems in the next couple of weeks. As I ordered the Mdk Prosuite Edition - I most probably write some little essai's on that one. You think It will fit on the Twiki ? Cheers Joerg James Sparenberg wrote: Since valuable info like this needs to be captured I started a new section in the HowTo's on the Twiki... called Tips and Tricks. It's at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/TipsAndTricks With the object of allowing anyone who sees something they think is really neat and or usefull to put it in the twiki, The idea is that sometimes our "suggestions" result in a fix that is really a combination of suggestions. If this happens it would be real nice to capture. I'm hoping by setting it up ... then doing it a little myself to promote more people to put what worked in a place it can be researched. -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice & Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Radeon 9700 + nforce2- nvidia 1.0261 drivers (with agpgart patch for 3rd party graphics cards) and ML 9.1
Hi Mate,
hehehe :) Here we go again. I have by now bought a Radeon 9500 Pro - and
still have my Asus Nforce 2 Board running smoothly.
What you actuually have to do is the following.
1. Get the kernel source. Best is taking the source in the mdk. updates
section.
2. Apply the AGP Patch (For the Radeon). You can find it under:
http://etudiant.epita.fr:8000/~nonolk/nforce-agp.diff
cd /usr/src/
patch -p0 -E -s < nforce-agp.diff
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file
linux/include/linux/agp_backend.h.rej
You'll see one rejection. That's no problem.
cd linux/include/linux
emacs agp_backend.h.rej agp_backend.h
You'll see the following:
***
*** 82,87
SVWRKS_LE,
SVWRKS_GENERIC,
HP_ZX1,
};
typedef struct _agp_version {
--- 82,89
SVWRKS_LE,
SVWRKS_GENERIC,
HP_ZX1,
+ NV_NFORCE,
+ NV_NFORCE_2,
};
typedef struct _agp_version {
So - go to the mentioned line 82 in the agp_backend.h file, type in
(For the Emacs):
-X goto-line
82
And you'll see that all you need to add here is the 2 missing lines:
NV_NFORCE,
NV_NFORCE_2,
after HP_Zx1, to have a working include file.
Go to you normal /usr/src/linux directory - and perform a kernel
configuration - e.g. make menuconfig (xconfig doesn't work for me) :)
Compile the kernel: make depend && make bzImage && make modules && make
modules_install
Copy the kernel Imagefile to the boot Directory and adapt your Lilo/Grub
configuration accordingly.
NOTE: ALWAYS keep the old kernel for security reasons !
Once this is done - reboot your system and you should have the new
version running, with agp support. Test it by issuing:
modprobe agpgart
It should work out of the Box.
Now - all you need to do is get the ATI stuff from:
http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati.html
and install these according to their INSTALL.txt file :)
Should work out of the box.
The entire thread discussing the agp_patch is here:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=5d07a26525213a8a13d6279cd9bd8bee&threadid=9396&perpage=25&pagenumber=7
Having it done like this - I now can run UT2003, Guake 3 Arena Tuxracer,
etc
Cheers & Good luck :)
Joerg
Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
Hi everyone,
Did anyone succeed in getting them work together nicely? If so
please explain step by step like for an retarded idiot:) how you did it.
I got it to the point that the agpgart module loads and the fglrx module
loads. In X fglrxinfo displays the ATI driver and also the OpenGL from
ATI and not the Mesa one. Though everything seems fine, I cannot start
any application including fgl_glxgears or tuxracer without my PC
freezing. I looked in the /var/log/kernel/errors and saw something about
fglrx:firegl_unlock drm_ioremapfree and an attempt to call something on
a NULL. Funny stuff is that I have no other warning/error whatsoever in
dmesg, XFree86 log or messages. :/ When I try to start fgl_glxgears PC
freezes instantly without doing anything (I remain in the screen where I
tried starting it). Only a hard reboot is possible (no Ctrl-Bksp, no
SysReq, nada). :( I thought maybe something screwy is going on with my
fgl_glxgears so I tried Tuxracer. A bit better. My screen went black and
monitor made the "click" it does when changing video modes, stayed there
for a few seconds and then monitor switched to standby like it does when
no signal comes (for ex when PC is off). In the meantime I could hear an
endless looping sound in my headset. :( Also beside hard reset nothing
of the "normal" ways to regain control of the PC worked :( I switched on
my TV to see if it outputs there something, but no go (thought the
rascal switched output to the TV-OUT maybe). :( I got the latest ati
driver for X 4.3.0 (I think is 2.9.12). Did a clean kernel recompile, a
clean uninstall and rebuild/reinstall of the NVIDIA_nforce driver for
the agpgart and also cleanly uninstalled and installed the fglrx driver.
Same simptom. :( Am going nuts. So please if you managed to do it tell
me how and any thoughts on how to debug the crash. If it would have been
a kernel panick (lights on keyb) I would have used the autodump of the
ksymoops... :( Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Adrian
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Re: [expert] Cant Write Boot Floppies
** Bill Mullen (Montag, 16. Juni 2003 07:47) > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > I already have a Knoppix CD but what I want to do is: > > > > A CD that can work as a rescue media for my installation and also > > can do as an installation CD containing only the apps and tools I > > have installed now. Kind of a individual installation CD. > > Perhaps, wobo, starting with the iso of MDK CD #1, loop-mounting it > r/w, knocking out whatever you're sure you won't need, replacing the > RPMs with your own selection, and then burning the result would work? > You'd need to run genhdlist to create the hdlist.cz file, and there > are probably a bunch of other considerations that aren't readily > apparent, but maybe ... ;) That was mainly the route I wanted to travel. I just want to have my kernel on it together with some modules to start at boot time. As for the hdlist.cz I know how to do that although dependencies may be a PITA. I thought I could put all rpms on it which are listed in the softwaremanager as 'installed', then create a hdlist.cz and so avoid dependencies problems. I know I could solve the whole thing with the Mandrake CDs 1-3 and a auto-setup floppy but I want to have it on one CD altogether. wobo -- Public GnuPG key available at http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cant Write Boot Floppies
** James Sparenberg (Montag, 16. Juni 2003 08:54) > > Timos (you can find it on freshmeat) might help.. Also check out > Morphix. It's kind of a slice and dice knoppix where you can combine > "packages" to fit your needs. I'll have alook into that, thank you. wobo -- Public GnuPG key available at http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1 - IRQ Balancing still not fixed...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My original email included the paste from 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise. I'll include it again here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -a Linux mail1 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:44:12 MDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 CPU1 0: 46423 0IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 2 0IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 0 0 IO-APIC-level usb-ohci 8: 1 0IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 6 0IO-APIC-edge ide0 16: 16 0 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx 17: 16 0 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx 28: 5206 0 IO-APIC-level eth0 29: 4179 0 IO-APIC-level eth1 30: 11562 0 IO-APIC-level aacraid NMI: 0 0 LOC: 46328 46283 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 > On Fri Jun 13, 2003 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Mark Watts wrote: > > Thats the output from a Dual HT capable 2.4Ghz Xeon. HT isnt running > > though for other reasons. > > > > This is the same system running 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 (again, HT isnt working so > > these are physical processors): > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts > >CPU0 CPU1 > > 0:29428672943185IO-APIC-edge timer > > 1: 1 1IO-APIC-edge keyboard > > 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade > > 14: 1 1IO-APIC-edge ide0 > > 16: 26 10 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx > > 17: 8 7 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx > > 28: 295254 296494 IO-APIC-level eth0 > > 29: 294162 294096 IO-APIC-level eth1 > > 30: 43404 43517 IO-APIC-level aacraid > > NMI: 0 0 > > LOC:58857565885847 > > ERR: 0 > > MIS: 0 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -a > > Linux mail1 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 #12 SMP Wed Jun 4 13:58:30 BST 2003 i686 > > unknown unknown GNU/Linux > > Similar to here, except I'll use the kernel we're talking about: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vdanen]$ cat /proc/interrupts >CPU0 CPU1 > 0:33562933356385IO-APIC-edge timer > 1: 5745 5793IO-APIC-edge keyboard > 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade > 5:27385432739594 IO-APIC-level eth0, EMU10K1 > 8: 196785 195978IO-APIC-edge rtc > 10:24719962465323 IO-APIC-level [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:5:0 > 11: 37080 36913 IO-APIC-level ide2, usb-ohci > 12: 22373 22301IO-APIC-edge PS/2 Mouse > 14: 76134 76333IO-APIC-edge ide0 > 15: 12652 13776IO-APIC-edge ide1 > NMI: 0 0 > LOC:67128836712882 > ERR: 0 > MIS: 0 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vdanen]$ uname -a > Linux logan.linsec.vx 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:44:12 > MDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux > > That looks fairly balanced to me. - -- Mark Watts Systems Engineer QinetiQ TIM St Andrews Road, Malvern GPG Public Key ID: 455420ED -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+7bECBn4EFUVUIO0RAmpaAKC7udNcNb//hCCO0M2vgO0aSY2UCgCgg526 UJi5GJ2QUxCCSUNz0erlLpQ= =AbIO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updatedb prob
On Sunday 15 June 2003 06:23 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > Ok this is now 2 people with problems in this area but I'm not sure if > they are connected... Dark, Does any of this look familiar to you? > > James Nope, I'm not getting that kind of error message. In fact, I get no error message, it just spontaneously reboots. (and I'm telling you, its weird to watch your system do that!) :-) -- /\ Dark<>Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mouse dies after suspending
I hace similar problem for a PS2 mouse after rebooting (see bug https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3858 ) I have the ECS K7S5A motherboard i think it might be related to the probelem. Tonight I'll try the pmsuspend script to verify if the problem exists too. --- Per-Olof Litby - Reg'l Mgr Nordic/Baltic - Java Web Services - Sun Microsystems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > > I've tried using the pmsuspend script available with > Mandrake 9.1 and it > seems to work fine with 2 exceptions: > >1. The mouse (USB wheel mouse) stops working > after wake up from > suspension >2. Both suspending and wake up are very slow. > > Does anyone know if the mouse problem can be fixed? > > thanks, > > -- > > --- > Per-Olof Litby Phone +46 8 > 631-1463 > Regional Mgr - Nordic/Baltic Fax +46 8 > 631-1005 > Java Web ServicesEmail > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sun Microsystems > --- > Calendar URL below (Sun only) > http://namefinder.germany/nfcal.cgi?-s+23213 > --- > I've got this great ambition to die of exhaustion > rather than boredom. > --- > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1 - IRQ Balancing still not fixed...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
This is the same box with HT enabled (2.4.21-rc6-ac2 still)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] control]# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3
0:6665103666501966645016665062IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 1 0 0 1IO-APIC-edge keyboard
2: 0 0 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
14: 1 0 0 1IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 4 5 23 4 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
17: 4 3 4 4 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
28: 667277 669789 673092 669605 IO-APIC-level eth0
29: 662966 666161 669823 666782 IO-APIC-level eth1
30: 57094 57700 57071 56743 IO-APIC-level aacraid
NMI: 0 0 0 0
LOC: 26659839 26659813 26659859 26659883
ERR: 0
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] control]# uname -a
Linux mail1.niscc.gov.uk 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 #13 SMP Fri Jun 13 10:42:49 BST 2003
i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
> So, does anyone know why it si balanced sometimes and not other times?
> Does it depend on the overall load of the machine? On the hardware? On
> the astrological ascendent of the sys admin?
>
> Guillaume.
>
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:26, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > On Fri Jun 13, 2003 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Mark Watts wrote:
> > > Thats the output from a Dual HT capable 2.4Ghz Xeon. HT isnt running
> > > though for other reasons.
> > >
> > > This is the same system running 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 (again, HT isnt working
> > > so these are physical processors):
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts
> > >CPU0 CPU1
> > > 0:29428672943185IO-APIC-edge timer
> > > 1: 1 1IO-APIC-edge keyboard
> > > 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
> > > 14: 1 1IO-APIC-edge ide0
> > > 16: 26 10 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
> > > 17: 8 7 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
> > > 28: 295254 296494 IO-APIC-level eth0
> > > 29: 294162 294096 IO-APIC-level eth1
> > > 30: 43404 43517 IO-APIC-level aacraid
> > > NMI: 0 0
> > > LOC:58857565885847
> > > ERR: 0
> > > MIS: 0
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -a
> > > Linux mail1 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 #12 SMP Wed Jun 4 13:58:30 BST 2003 i686
> > > unknown unknown GNU/Linux
> >
> > Similar to here, except I'll use the kernel we're talking about:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vdanen]$ cat /proc/interrupts
> >CPU0 CPU1
> > 0:33562933356385IO-APIC-edge timer
> > 1: 5745 5793IO-APIC-edge keyboard
> > 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
> > 5:27385432739594 IO-APIC-level eth0, EMU10K1
> > 8: 196785 195978IO-APIC-edge rtc
> > 10:24719962465323 IO-APIC-level [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:5:0
> > 11: 37080 36913 IO-APIC-level ide2, usb-ohci
> > 12: 22373 22301IO-APIC-edge PS/2 Mouse
> > 14: 76134 76333IO-APIC-edge ide0
> > 15: 12652 13776IO-APIC-edge ide1
> > NMI: 0 0
> > LOC:67128836712882
> > ERR: 0
> > MIS: 0
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vdanen]$ uname -a
> > Linux logan.linsec.vx 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:44:12
> > MDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
> >
> > That looks fairly balanced to me.
> >
> > --
> > MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/
> > Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/
> > "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import"
> > {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD}
- --
Mark Watts
Systems Engineer
QinetiQ TIM
St Andrews Road, Malvern
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[expert] Mouse Wheel double click
One of the nice features of using a wheel mouse in Windows is that the wheel button can be configured to do several different things, including double click which is something I've gotten used to. Is there a way to do this in Mandrake? thanks, -- Untitled Document --- Per-Olof Litby Phone +46 8 631-1463 Regional Mgr - Nordic/Baltic Fax +46 8 631-1005 Java Web Services Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems --- Calendar URL below (Sun only) http://namefinder.germany/nfcal.cgi?-s+23213 --- I've got this great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom. ---
Re: [expert] Running "updatedb" crashes my comp!
On Sunday 15 June 2003 12:19 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > One more thought, tho I think the suggestions you've gotten to > check the filesystem are probly better ... take a look at > /etc/updatedb.conf and see if it isn't corrupted or incomplete. Looks identical here Thanks for the suggestion though! -- /\ Dark<>Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 kernel 2.4.21 vs cooker 2.4.21
Hi List! I need to compile linus kernel 2.4.20 with openmosix patched. That's not problem. My problem is my new mobo with Via KT400 and net chip Broadcom BCM4400. Where does MDK get such patchs? Thanks for any help. Cheers, on Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > The official release of 2.4.21 was announced today from kernel.org. The 9.1 > kernel I have right now is 2.4.21-0.13mdk. The cooker kernel is 2.4.21-1mdk > but when it is installed, it becomes 2.4.21-0.1mdk. Does this mean that the > 0.13mdk kernel is more developed than the 0.1mdk kernel or is the 0.1mdk > kernel actually the Mandrake equivalent to the official 2.4.21 release? > > I am primarily interested in IDE performance enhancements in the 2.4.21 kernel > but if those enhancements are already in the 0.13mdk kernel, then I wont > bother with the cooker kernel. Are there any beneficial changes in the > 0.1mdk kernel vs the 0.13mdk kernel? > > praedor > > - -- > The First Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible > dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is > essential to the welfare of the public. > - --Justice Hugo Black > > GnuPG fingerprint: > D170 2A02 B426 6AA0 5E68 3EDC 68AA FDB0 961E 4F18 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+6nEmaKr9sJYeTxgRAiOKAJwN+bnfCsTHfjQqnKiWyRxo53rLUwCfbSBQ > ELiCPnB78k3W9UGiDZjcR5k= > =Hub4 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 kernel 2.4.21 vs cooker 2.4.21
On Monday 16 June 2003 08:23 am, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: > Hi List! > > > I need to compile linus kernel 2.4.20 with openmosix patched. That's not > problem. > > My problem is my new mobo with Via KT400 and net chip Broadcom BCM4400. > Where does MDK get such patchs? > You can extract all the patches they use and inspect them. They would be part of the kernel SRPM (NOTE: Not the kernel-source RPMS, but the kernel SRPM). Install it and then all the sources and patches will be installed to /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Radeon 9700 + nforce2- nvidia 1.0261 drivers (with agpgart patch for 3rd party graphics cards) and ML 9.1
Hi Mate, :)
Yeap, here we go again. Strange thing is that I did all is written
underneath except for applying the patch you point to. I applied the one
from nvidia. Is something different in the one below? For one thing, the
result of the patch had some other rejects with the patch from nvidia (there
was no reject in the agp_backend.h). Also, any idea how I can trace the
freeze of my PC? Any special boot params or bios settings?
Thx for your help.
Best regards,
Adrian
- Original Message -
From: "Joerg Mertin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Radeon 9700 + nforce2- nvidia 1.0261 drivers (with
agpgart patch for 3rd party graphics cards) and ML 9.1
> Hi Mate,
>
> hehehe :) Here we go again. I have by now bought a Radeon 9500 Pro - and
> still have my Asus Nforce 2 Board running smoothly.
>
> What you actuually have to do is the following.
> 1. Get the kernel source. Best is taking the source in the mdk. updates
> section.
> 2. Apply the AGP Patch (For the Radeon). You can find it under:
> http://etudiant.epita.fr:8000/~nonolk/nforce-agp.diff
> cd /usr/src/
> patch -p0 -E -s < nforce-agp.diff
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file
> linux/include/linux/agp_backend.h.rej
>
> You'll see one rejection. That's no problem.
>
> cd linux/include/linux
> emacs agp_backend.h.rej agp_backend.h
>
> You'll see the following:
>
> ***
> *** 82,87
>SVWRKS_LE,
>SVWRKS_GENERIC,
>HP_ZX1,
>};
>
>typedef struct _agp_version {
> --- 82,89
>SVWRKS_LE,
>SVWRKS_GENERIC,
>HP_ZX1,
> + NV_NFORCE,
> + NV_NFORCE_2,
>};
>
>typedef struct _agp_version {
>
>So - go to the mentioned line 82 in the agp_backend.h file, type in
>(For the Emacs):
>-X goto-line
>82
>
> And you'll see that all you need to add here is the 2 missing lines:
> NV_NFORCE,
> NV_NFORCE_2,
>
> after HP_Zx1, to have a working include file.
>
> Go to you normal /usr/src/linux directory - and perform a kernel
> configuration - e.g. make menuconfig (xconfig doesn't work for me) :)
>
> Compile the kernel: make depend && make bzImage && make modules && make
> modules_install
>
> Copy the kernel Imagefile to the boot Directory and adapt your Lilo/Grub
> configuration accordingly.
>
> NOTE: ALWAYS keep the old kernel for security reasons !
>
> Once this is done - reboot your system and you should have the new
> version running, with agp support. Test it by issuing:
>
> modprobe agpgart
>
> It should work out of the Box.
>
> Now - all you need to do is get the ATI stuff from:
> http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati.html
>
> and install these according to their INSTALL.txt file :)
> Should work out of the box.
>
>
> The entire thread discussing the agp_patch is here:
>
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=5d07a26525213a8a13d6279cd9bd8bee&threadid=9396&perpage=25&pagenumber=7
>
> Having it done like this - I now can run UT2003, Guake 3 Arena Tuxracer,
> etc
>
> Cheers & Good luck :)
>
> Joerg
>
> Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Did anyone succeed in getting them work together nicely? If so
> > please explain step by step like for an retarded idiot:) how you did it.
> > I got it to the point that the agpgart module loads and the fglrx module
> > loads. In X fglrxinfo displays the ATI driver and also the OpenGL from
> > ATI and not the Mesa one. Though everything seems fine, I cannot start
> > any application including fgl_glxgears or tuxracer without my PC
> > freezing. I looked in the /var/log/kernel/errors and saw something about
> > fglrx:firegl_unlock drm_ioremapfree and an attempt to call something on
> > a NULL. Funny stuff is that I have no other warning/error whatsoever in
> > dmesg, XFree86 log or messages. :/ When I try to start fgl_glxgears PC
> > freezes instantly without doing anything (I remain in the screen where I
> > tried starting it). Only a hard reboot is possible (no Ctrl-Bksp, no
> > SysReq, nada). :( I thought maybe something screwy is going on with my
> > fgl_glxgears so I tried Tuxracer. A bit better. My screen went black and
> > monitor made the "click" it does when changing video modes, stayed there
> > for a few seconds and then monitor switched to standby like it does when
> > no signal comes (for ex when PC is off). In the meantime I could hear an
> > endless looping sound in my headset. :( Also beside hard reset nothing
> > of the "normal" ways to regain control of the PC worked :( I switched on
> > my TV to see if it outputs there something, but no go (thought the
> > rascal switched output to the TV-OUT maybe). :( I got the latest ati
> > driver for X 4.3.0 (I think is 2.9.12). Did a clean kernel recompile, a
> > clean uninstall and rebuild/reinstall of the NVIDIA_nforce driver for
> > the agpgart and also cleanly uninstalled and installed the fglrx driver.
> > Same simptom. :(
[expert] beowulf support
Hi, We are interested in developing a Beowulf cluster based on Mandrake. can anyone point us the necessary tools as of availaible. reagards, saurav Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
[expert] pine folder vulnerable
Hi, i am having some problem. When I open pine, it says ... floder /var/spool/mail vulnerable ... must have 1770 protection. Ok so i use chmod /var/spool/mail 1770. It is ok, but when fetchmail downloads new mail, pine says it again. How can i fix it? i use fetchmail to download mail from pop3 account on my computer. And also fetchmail ... when fetchmail download mail ... it send me internal mail with error ... error hostname.hostdomain != dipsy.pod.cvut.cz, dipsy ... is my mail server, from where am i downloading mails trought pop3 protocol. Thanks for help David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] beowulf support
** Saurav Gohain (Montag, 16. Juni 2003 15:31) > Hi, > We are interested in developing a Beowulf cluster based on Mandrake. > can anyone point us the necessary tools as of availaible. Building a Beowulf cluster http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/beowulf/tutorial/building.html "The examples you find in this document will apply to using the RedHat or Mandrake Linux operating system." Putting "Beowulf Mandrake" into the Google searchbox gives you some more sources. wobo -- Public GnuPG key available at http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] beowulf support
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 06:40, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > ** Saurav Gohain (Montag, 16. Juni 2003 15:31) > > Hi, > > We are interested in developing a Beowulf cluster based on Mandrake. > > can anyone point us the necessary tools as of availaible. > > Building a Beowulf cluster > http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/beowulf/tutorial/building.html > > "The examples you find in this document will apply to using the RedHat > or Mandrake Linux operating system." > > Putting "Beowulf Mandrake" into the Google searchbox gives you some more > sources. > > wobo this might be interesting to look at as well: http://clic.mandrakesoft.com/download.html -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 kernel 2.4.21 vs cooker 2.4.21
Thanky Greg! However, it's not a sort of thing that I may download by urpmi, is it? Cheers, On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Monday 16 June 2003 08:23 am, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: > > Hi List! > > > > > > I need to compile linus kernel 2.4.20 with openmosix patched. That's not > > problem. > > > > My problem is my new mobo with Via KT400 and net chip Broadcom BCM4400. > > Where does MDK get such patchs? > > > You can extract all the patches they use and inspect them. They would be part > of the kernel SRPM (NOTE: Not the kernel-source RPMS, but the kernel SRPM). > Install it and then all the sources and patches will be installed to > /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES. > > -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 kernel 2.4.21 vs cooker 2.4.21
On Monday 16 June 2003 10:24 am, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: > Thanky Greg! However, it's not a sort of thing that I may download by > urpmi, is it? The SRPMS are in a different part of the dist tree. I think it is something like this: 9.1-\i586\Mandrake\RPMS | |---\base |--\SRPMS Any mirror should have em. > Cheers, > > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Greg Meyer wrote: > > On Monday 16 June 2003 08:23 am, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: > > > Hi List! > > > > > > > > > I need to compile linus kernel 2.4.20 with openmosix patched. That's > > > not problem. > > > > > > My problem is my new mobo with Via KT400 and net chip Broadcom BCM4400. > > > Where does MDK get such patchs? > > > > You can extract all the patches they use and inspect them. They would be > > part of the kernel SRPM (NOTE: Not the kernel-source RPMS, but the > > kernel SRPM). Install it and then all the sources and patches will be > > installed to /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
Hi ALL, I have one suggestion to make. To minimize traffic on this list and make it a "Read All" list, i suggest the following rules which are being followed on a different list I am subscribing to to be adopted on this list: After a question is posted, all replies should go directly ONLY to the person who posted the question. After a satisfactory resolution, the original poster should then post a SUMMARY:, which is a description to what/how the problem was solved, to the list. If responses slow down, and problem has not been resolved, then the original poster can submit an UPDATE: to the status of his problem if not resolved. Finally, if a problem is never resolved, send a SUMMARY anyway, to say that problem was not resolved/or no replies. U might be suprised how many more may reply then, since they always assumed someone else had : -) That way, every post will have mostly 2-3 total entries only. 1. Original Question 2. (Optional)UPDATE & 3. SUMMARY. Heading should be tagged as such too, to show whether this is an UPDATE or a SUMMARY. This makes it easier to filter into peoples mailboxes. That way, it will be very useful to all of us, and future users of mdk. I come across posts that should be offlinelike email today said "I can say more offline than here" and then, another email reply goes "I tell you" Those should not belong here in my opinion. Those two lines are 2/116 i received from Sat 10AM to Monday 10AM. Automatically it forces a "HighLight ALL, DELETE" for it takes too long to read all emails...only to find out that a big number should not have been posted to the public to begin with. Let me know what you guys think. BTW, who is the list monitor? _Thanks Richard Mollel = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cant Write Boot Floppies
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> I know I could solve the whole thing with the Mandrake CDs 1-3 and a
> auto-setup floppy but I want to have it on one CD altogether.
Well, my first question would be: will they even all fit, given that you
still need room for the installer itself, and (presumably, most if not all
of) its associated files? I'm not at all certain as to just how much you
can actually remove from CD #1, and still have it both install properly,
and also continue to be a fully-functional rescue disc ...
... but I strongly suspect that you'll find out, one way or another. ;)
In the off chance that you may have need of it, I've found that a handy
trick to duplicate an existing package selection onto a new system (or
two, or twenty) is to run the following on the system to be "cloned":
rpm -qa --qf %{NAME}"\ " > rpmlist
I then take a quick look through the file (which is just one long line),
hunting for any system-specific RPMs that wouldn't be appropriate on the
target system(s), and deleting their names from the list. There's no use
having stuff like nVidia RPMs in there if the target system(s) may well
not have an nVidia card, for example.
The resulting file can be fed to urpmi on the new system, thereby "filling
out" a fresh, bare-minimum (and, therefore, single-CD) install, with:
urpmi $(cat rpmlist)
Of course, urpmi has to already know by that point just where to find them
all ... but if you've got them sitting together on a custom CD (along with
this file, and a hdlist.cz), a simple script will take care of that easily
enough, and said script can go right onto that CD with them. :)
One advantage to this method is that if you configure the network on the
target system first, and then set up all the various urpmi mirror sources
before you run this (which can also be done in the aforementioned script),
urpmi will grab from *them* any packages for which updated RPMs have been
issued since the date that your custom RPM CD itself was created ... this
may not be exactly what you're looking for, but if you're looking at a
two-CD arrangement anyway, perhaps it will help a bit, as you can then use
the "stock" CD #1 - or, since you also mentioned custom kernels, perhaps
one which requires the fewest number of modifications.
It's about the fastest way to go from bare drives to a "fully loaded, and
ready to tweak" Mandrake system that I've managed to come up with ...
... well, so far, at least ... ;)
HTH!
--
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The engineer is neither optimist nor pessimist. He sees the proverbial
half-full/empty glass and says, "The glass is twice as big as there is
any need for it to be."
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Re: [expert] Apache redirects incorrectly
> Under XP: > http://localhost/ all the links in the page refer to localhost. > > Under Linux: > http://localhost/ then all the links in the page refer to > http://www.elacuariodeaguadulce.com wich is the Internet URL. Really i don't know > why the Apache server redirects it to the URL instead of the localhost. Maybe you can put the host www.elacuariodeaguadulce.com in your /etc/hosts-file ? Make an entry like: 127.0.0.1 www.elacuariodeaguadulce.com or use your real IP-address for it. If that doesn't work and if you're running bind, maybe you can configure bind that way ? Just 2 wild guesses. Steven Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] alphabetizing / sorting seems screwy
> > I put export LC_COLLATE=POSIX in .bash_profile > > so filemanagers (like rox) would get it > > and also in .bashrc (after /etc/bashrc gets run, since it sets it > > back) so xterms, etc wuld get it. > > > > Whoops: it's a little off. Heres the order: > > > > dot files > > numbers > > caps > > symbols > > lower case > Thanks Eric. Would putting this in rc.local work also? Haven't messed with rc.local yet, but there's a line in /etc/bashrc that runs all /etc/profile.d/*.sh of which one sets things back to en_US. I'm sure those could be changed, but i figured i'd just muck with my user files. > It seems great > except I remember that in additon to what you've got working that the > files/dirs were also arranged lowercase followed by uppercase. Does this > sound familiar or is my memory at fault? (that couldn't be it...) I'm pretty sure it was uppercase first, then lowercase. But, as we now know, it can be set any which way. Maybe your sysadmin liked lower then upper, and mine liked upper then lower: Ideal for me would be: > > dot files > > symbols > > numbers > > caps > > lower case eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 11:23, Tru64 User wrote: > Hi ALL, > > I have one suggestion to make. To minimize traffic on > this list and make it a "Read All" list, i suggest the > following rules which are being followed on a > different list I am subscribing to to be adopted on > this list: > < snip several good ideas > I think you make some good points here, but one of the strengths of this and other support-type mailing lists is the open discussion that goes on. Quite often it seems that one person's response jogs something in another person's memory, often leading to a better resolution than one person alone would have come up with. We'd lose a lot of that if the discussion switched to one-on-one for each question. So, basically, I like things the way they are :-) Your ideas do sound good for perhaps a 'expert-light' list though, or something similar. Just a thought. Hez Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
Every list I've been on that implemented such a setup ended up dead within the year. Traffic levels drop alright, spiraling down to zero. As long as truly OT flamewars and silliness are kept down, the sort of list non-structure that we currently enjoy allows a sense of community to form, allows one advice-giver to amplify or correct another advice-giver's answer, and allows serendipitous connections to be drawn. Rather than less traffic, in my opinion we should have more traffic -- as I've said before, I would merge the newbie and expert lists into a single users list. I don't believe that there is a moderator since Todd left. Per Vincent's message, it appears that Mandrake has decided to shift their attention to web-fora as a support channel (bad mistake) and is consequently deprioritizing all lists other than cooker. Furthermore, mailing lists were never a support channel, support isn't really support, and black is truly white if you just stop and think about it long enough. Jack On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 08:23, Tru64 User wrote: > Hi ALL, > > I have one suggestion to make. To minimize traffic on > this list and make it a "Read All" list, i suggest the > following rules which are being followed on a > different list I am subscribing to to be adopted on > this list: > > After a question is posted, all replies should go > directly ONLY to the person who posted the question. > After a satisfactory resolution, the original poster > should then post a SUMMARY:, which is a description > to what/how the problem was solved, to the list. > > If responses slow down, and problem has not been > resolved, then the original poster can submit an > UPDATE: to the status of his problem if not resolved. > > Finally, if a problem is never resolved, send a > SUMMARY anyway, to say that problem was not > resolved/or no replies. U might be suprised how many > more may reply then, since they always assumed someone > else had : -) > > That way, every post will have mostly 2-3 total > entries only. > > 1. Original Question > 2. (Optional)UPDATE & > 3. SUMMARY. > > Heading should be tagged as such too, to show whether > this is an UPDATE or a SUMMARY. This makes it easier > to filter into peoples mailboxes. > That way, it will be very useful to all of us, and > future users of mdk. > > I come across posts that should be offlinelike > email today said "I can say more offline than here" > and then, another email reply goes "I tell you" > Those should not belong here in my opinion. Those two > lines are 2/116 i received from Sat 10AM to Monday > 10AM. Automatically it forces a "HighLight ALL, > DELETE" for it takes too long to read all > emails...only to find out that a big number should not > have been posted to the public to begin with. > > Let me know what you guys think. BTW, who is the list > monitor? > > _Thanks > > Richard Mollel > > > = > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
Tru64 User wrote: >Hi ALL, > >I have one suggestion to make. To minimize traffic on >this list and make it a "Read All" list, i suggest the >following rules which are being followed on a >different list I am subscribing to to be adopted on >this list: > >After a question is posted, all replies should go >directly ONLY to the person who posted the question. >After a satisfactory resolution, the original poster >should then post a SUMMARY:, which is a description >to what/how the problem was solved, to the list. > >If responses slow down, and problem has not been >resolved, then the original poster can submit an >UPDATE: to the status of his problem if not resolved. > >Finally, if a problem is never resolved, send a >SUMMARY anyway, to say that problem was not >resolved/or no replies. U might be suprised how many >more may reply then, since they always assumed someone >else had : -) > >That way, every post will have mostly 2-3 total >entries only. > >1. Original Question >2. (Optional)UPDATE & >3. SUMMARY. > >Heading should be tagged as such too, to show whether >this is an UPDATE or a SUMMARY. This makes it easier >to filter into peoples mailboxes. >That way, it will be very useful to all of us, and >future users of mdk. > >I come across posts that should be offlinelike >email today said "I can say more offline than here" >and then, another email reply goes "I tell you" >Those should not belong here in my opinion. Those two >lines are 2/116 i received from Sat 10AM to Monday >10AM. Automatically it forces a "HighLight ALL, >DELETE" for it takes too long to read all >emails...only to find out that a big number should not >have been posted to the public to begin with. > >Let me know what you guys think. BTW, who is the list >monitor? > >_Thanks > >Richard Mollel > > >= > > I don't think that is a very good idea. The thinking out loud that happens here and in the cooker list is what leads to solutions. If after the first post all responses are off list how does anyone profit by, or add to, the information being passed back and forth between the original poster and the responders? You never know when someone might say something that will jog someone's memory or imagination. They can't add to the discussion in real time if they don't know what's being said. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Monday 16 Jun 2003 4:47 pm, Hezekiah M. Carty wrote: > On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 11:23, Tru64 User wrote: > > Hi ALL, > > > > I have one suggestion to make. To minimize traffic on > > this list and make it a "Read All" list, i suggest the > > following rules which are being followed on a > > different list I am subscribing to to be adopted on > > this list: > > < snip several good ideas > > > I think you make some good points here, but one of the strengths of > this and other support-type mailing lists is the open discussion > that goes on. Quite often it seems that one person's response jogs > something in another person's memory, often leading to a better > resolution than one person alone would have come up with. We'd > lose a lot of that if the discussion switched to one-on-one for > each question. So, basically, I like things the way they are :-) > Your ideas do sound good for perhaps a 'expert-light' list though, > or something similar. > I sympathise with the intention of the suggestion, but as a learning tool, we would also lost something, I think. The troubleshooting along the way often makes me think about things relevant to my own system. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 11:23, Tru64 User wrote: > After a question is posted, all replies should go > directly ONLY to the person who posted the question. > After a satisfactory resolution, the original poster > should then post a SUMMARY:, which is a description > to what/how the problem was solved, to the list. > > If responses slow down, and problem has not been > resolved, then the original poster can submit an > UPDATE: to the status of his problem if not resolved. > I certainly don't agree with limiting threads to 2 or 3 posts. The whole spirit of the list is to allow open collaboration and the sharing of knowledge. Sure, there's noise but the moderators have responded to OT posts before. I for one will absolutely not continue to read or respond to any list where the posts are not publicly available. > Finally, if a problem is never resolved, send a > SUMMARY anyway, to say that problem was not > resolved/or no replies. U might be suprised how many > more may reply then, since they always assumed someone > else had : -) > Sure, a summary post is always polite, especially in cases where the poster gets private responses. I send quite a bit of private mail because the original post may be OT for the list. > That way, every post will have mostly 2-3 total > entries only. > > 1. Original Question > 2. (Optional)UPDATE & > 3. SUMMARY. A better idea is to read the Usenet etiquette guidelines. You don't need to agree or follow every one of them, but some make sense. For example, when replying to a post, quote only the relevant portions of the email. This list has had some very long emails, quoting not only multiple signature lines, but every response in the thread. Many times only one or two lines were added to a hundred plus line post. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Wanted to try wine
Battlenet, as I understand it, has been a problem for quite some time with all You can say that again. We haven't even been able to get MechWarrior IV to network in Windows XP over our local net. I'm beginning to wonder if there isn't a firewall issue but we did try it with the firewall off and still no dice. Anyway this is off-topic I suppose.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1 - IRQ Balancing still not fixed...
On Mon Jun 16, 2003 at 12:58:58PM +0100, Mark Watts wrote:
> My original email included the paste from 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise.
> I'll include it again here:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -a
> Linux mail1 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:44:12 MDT 2003 i686
> unknown unknown GNU/Linux
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts
>CPU0 CPU1
> 0: 46423 0IO-APIC-edge timer
> 1: 2 0IO-APIC-edge keyboard
> 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
> 5: 0 0 IO-APIC-level usb-ohci
> 8: 1 0IO-APIC-edge rtc
> 14: 6 0IO-APIC-edge ide0
> 16: 16 0 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
> 17: 16 0 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx
> 28: 5206 0 IO-APIC-level eth0
> 29: 4179 0 IO-APIC-level eth1
> 30: 11562 0 IO-APIC-level aacraid
> NMI: 0 0
> LOC: 46328 46283
> ERR: 0
> MIS: 0
I'm really not sure why you're getting this... on my end it looks fine with
my dual Athlon. I'm cc'ing this to Juan so he can see what's going on and
maybe he has some ideas.
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Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Mon Jun 16, 2003 at 08:45:39AM -0700, Jack Coates wrote:
> I don't believe that there is a moderator since Todd left. Per Vincent's
> message, it appears that Mandrake has decided to shift their attention
> to web-fora as a support channel (bad mistake) and is consequently
> deprioritizing all lists other than cooker. Furthermore, mailing lists
> were never a support channel, support isn't really support, and black is
> truly white if you just stop and think about it long enough.
There is no moderator, and we didn't shift our attention to a website; it's
always been a website. This has never been an "official" support channel.
This is an unofficial "community-driven" support channel, and it has always
been this way. The official support has always been MandrakeExpert.
Cooker is a different list... it isn't a support list, it's a development
list. Big difference.
And no, there is no moderator although if things get out of hand, I'd have
to step forward I suppose.
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Re: [expert] Cant Write Boot Floppies
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 04:56, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > ** Bill Mullen (Montag, 16. Juni 2003 07:47) > > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > > I already have a Knoppix CD but what I want to do is: > > > > > > A CD that can work as a rescue media for my installation and also > > > can do as an installation CD containing only the apps and tools I > > > have installed now. Kind of a individual installation CD. > > > > Perhaps, wobo, starting with the iso of MDK CD #1, loop-mounting it > > r/w, knocking out whatever you're sure you won't need, replacing the > > RPMs with your own selection, and then burning the result would work? > > You'd need to run genhdlist to create the hdlist.cz file, and there > > are probably a bunch of other considerations that aren't readily > > apparent, but maybe ... ;) > > That was mainly the route I wanted to travel. I just want to have my > kernel on it together with some modules to start at boot time. > As for the hdlist.cz I know how to do that although dependencies may be > a PITA. > > I thought I could put all rpms on it which are listed in the > softwaremanager as 'installed', then create a hdlist.cz and so avoid > dependencies problems. > > I know I could solve the whole thing with the Mandrake CDs 1-3 and a > auto-setup floppy but I want to have it on one CD altogether. > > wobo This is actually doeable... but secret as heck unfortunately. You can get a plf iso that doubles as disk 1 for doing an install. I think MDK is using isolinux to build their disks but really don't know for sure. Only thing I do know is that it isn't anaconda anymore. *grin* If anyone knows or figures it out... let's document it. I agree that a 1 disk "my disk" install would be neat.(not to mention useful for businesses like say a Dell) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Make xconfig doesn't work in new kernel
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 03:04, Joerg Mertin wrote: > Hi James, > > actually - I had created back in time a so called "Quicky" section - > text based. I was thinking in getting it rewritten in the style of my > FAQ module (with search capabilities etc.). Maybe - as I'm getting > unemployed by the end of the Week - I'll start coding a module for > phpWebSite that does exactly this :) You can see the FAQ on my Home-site > :) Really neat :) I'll look, sounds cool only thing is that the Twiki is perl in and of itself but. if Vincent is willing a lot could be done. As for the unemployment... sorry. > > PS: I'm going to get a Via EPIA 5000 and a VIA Nemiah M1 systems in > the next couple of weeks. As I ordered the Mdk Prosuite Edition - I most > probably write some little essai's on that one. You think It will fit on > the Twiki ? Oh heavens yes. I've a feeling the the EPIA is going to become more and more of a market all the time. Sweet setup and price Not a gamers machine and it won't worry Sun but it's definitely got a place in the world. (Not to mention Via actually is starting to care about Linux.) > > Cheers > > Joerg > > James Sparenberg wrote: > > Since valuable info like this needs to be captured I started a new > > section in the HowTo's on the Twiki... called Tips and Tricks. It's at > > > > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/TipsAndTricks > > > > With the object of allowing anyone who sees something they think is > > really neat and or usefull to put it in the twiki, The idea is that > > sometimes our "suggestions" result in a fix that is really a combination > > of suggestions. If this happens it would be real nice to capture. I'm > > hoping by setting it up ... then doing it a little myself to promote > > more people to put what worked in a place it can be researched. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mouse dies after suspending
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 02:07, Per-Olof Litby - Reg'l Mgr Nordic/Baltic - Java Web Services - Sun Microsystems wrote: > Greetings, > > I've tried using the pmsuspend script available with Mandrake 9.1 and > it seems to work fine with 2 exceptions: > > 1. The mouse (USB wheel mouse) stops working after wake up from > suspension > 2. Both suspending and wake up are very slow. > Does anyone know if the mouse problem can be fixed? > > thanks, This should do it although I don't have a USB mouse to test with. cd /etc/sysconfig then edit the file suspend. You will see this set of lines.(in poor english *grin*) # Sometime USB doen't support well the suspending, specially for mouse # you may want to activate USBMOUSE_RESTART to make sure that your # mouse will work, if you want to restart the whole usb system set the # variable USB_RESTART USB_RESTART="no" Change the USB_RESTART="no" to yes ... and over the next suspend it should work. James > > -- > > --- > Per-Olof Litby Phone +46 8 631-1463 > Regional Mgr - Nordic/Baltic Fax +46 8 631-1005 > Java Web ServicesEmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sun Microsystems > --- > Calendar URL below (Sun only) > http://namefinder.germany/nfcal.cgi?-s+23213 > --- > I've got this great ambition to die of exhaustion > rather than boredom. > --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] beowulf support
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 07:08, Jack Coates wrote: > On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 06:40, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > ** Saurav Gohain (Montag, 16. Juni 2003 15:31) > > > Hi, > > > We are interested in developing a Beowulf cluster based on Mandrake. > > > can anyone point us the necessary tools as of availaible. > > > > Building a Beowulf cluster > > http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/beowulf/tutorial/building.html > > > > "The examples you find in this document will apply to using the RedHat > > or Mandrake Linux operating system." > > > > Putting "Beowulf Mandrake" into the Google searchbox gives you some more > > sources. > > > > wobo > > this might be interesting to look at as well: > http://clic.mandrakesoft.com/download.html or http://clic.mandrakesoft.com/index-en.html for the whole story... nicest part is the implementation of ka-run which improves software and system management for the entire cluster. Makes it much easier to keep all nodes in the cluster in sync installation wise. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 09:12, Kwan Lowe wrote: > > A better idea is to read the Usenet etiquette guidelines. You don't need > to agree or follow every one of them, but some make sense. For example, > when replying to a post, quote only the relevant portions of the email. > This list has had some very long emails, quoting not only multiple > signature lines, but every response in the thread. Many times only one > or two lines were added to a hundred plus line post. > Kwan, I agree with snipping and stand as guilty as anyone of being lazy. However I cut religiously sigs. But as far as traffic goes this list can't touch cooker.. Now that's volume (800 to a thousand a day during crunch time!) I've learned way to much "following" threads if this list dropped to 2 or 3 mails per thread it would become as useless a a forum for me. Oh yes and if the problem is a good one... Summarize in the community twiki *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Make xconfig doesn't work in new kernel
On Mon Jun 16, 2003 at 10:04:58AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > actually - I had created back in time a so called "Quicky" section -
> > text based. I was thinking in getting it rewritten in the style of my
> > FAQ module (with search capabilities etc.). Maybe - as I'm getting
> > unemployed by the end of the Week - I'll start coding a module for
> > phpWebSite that does exactly this :) You can see the FAQ on my Home-site
> > :) Really neat :)
>
> I'll look, sounds cool only thing is that the Twiki is perl in and of
> itself but. if Vincent is willing a lot could be done. As for the
Whatever you guys want done to the twiki framework, just let me know. If
you have code to do the deed in question, even better. =) My time is a
little limited, so I can't innovate too much, but if you guys want something
specific done that can only be accomplished server-side (new plugins, etc.)
just send me the relevant changes or point me to the where those changes are
discussed so I can implement them, and consider it done.
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[expert] Mailing List mis-management?
Earlier today I sent a post to the newbie list and the expert list, saying that we should get started on a hardward compatibility list on the TWiki site. Cross-posted, you understand (not a thing I normally do, but it seemed justified at the time). I received my two copies, which my filters put both into the newbie folder - or so I thought. However, Eric then mailed me about this. You may remember that he has brought up this subject before. I think that it was generally thought that he was mistaken (I admit I thought so too), but when he raised the question I checked the full headers for the posts. *Both* of them said Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had thought it strange that no-one from the expert list had answered, but it seems Eric is right - it never got there. An hour or two later, Greg posted to the newbie list that he had started the page. I forwarded his post to the expert list, for information. That was perhaps 5 hours ago. I has not shown up. We seem to have serious problems here. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailing List mis-management?
Anne, This is an *ancient* problem... I pointed it out about 2 years ago IIRC -- when there were all sorts of other mail issues... it wasn't fixed then and probably won't be fixed now... the solution is simple -- don't cross post... send 2 messages... On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:14:54 +0100 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Earlier today I sent a post to the newbie list and the expert list, > saying that we should get started on a hardward compatibility list on > the TWiki site. Cross-posted, you understand (not a thing I normally > do, but it seemed justified at the time). > > I received my two copies, which my filters put both into the newbie > folder - or so I thought. However, Eric then mailed me about this. > You may remember that he has brought up this subject before. I think > that it was generally thought that he was mistaken (I admit I thought > so too), but when he raised the question I checked the full headers > for the posts. *Both* of them said > > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I had thought it strange that no-one from the expert list had > answered, but it seems Eric is right - it never got there. > > An hour or two later, Greg posted to the newbie list that he had > started the page. I forwarded his post to the expert list, for > information. That was perhaps 5 hours ago. I has not shown up. > > We seem to have serious problems here. > > Anne > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailing List mis-management?
On Monday 16 Jun 2003 8:45 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > Anne, > > This is an *ancient* problem... I pointed it out about 2 years ago > IIRC -- when there were all sorts of other mail issues... it > wasn't fixed then and probably won't be fixed now... the solution > is simple -- don't cross post... send 2 messages... > Hmmm - a workaround, I suppose. But what about the forwarded message that never appeared? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailing List mis-management?
On September 1993 plus 3575 days Anne Wilson wrote: > Earlier today I sent a post to the newbie list and the expert list, > saying that we should get started on a hardward compatibility list on > the TWiki site. Cross-posted, you understand (not a thing I normally > do, but it seemed justified at the time). > > I received my two copies, which my filters put both into the newbie > folder - or so I thought. However, Eric then mailed me about this. > You may remember that he has brought up this subject before. I think > that it was generally thought that he was mistaken (I admit I thought > so too), but when he raised the question I checked the full headers > for the posts. *Both* of them said > > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I had thought it strange that no-one from the expert list had > answered, but it seems Eric is right - it never got there. > > An hour or two later, Greg posted to the newbie list that he had > started the page. I forwarded his post to the expert list, for > information. That was perhaps 5 hours ago. I has not shown up. > > We seem to have serious problems here. And the problems can be summed up in a single thought: sympa sucks planets through capillary straws. Unfortunately, whoever the admin is of the linux-mandrake.com server has never admitted it, not even when there was a long thread about it in cooker@ so I guess we are stuck with the POS (yes, I hate sympa very much, sorry) Vox, who'd love to see all mdk lists run through mailman, at least -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] changing fs
Hi, i have some partitions with NTFS and i am going to change to FAT32. How can i do it under Linux console? David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Radeon 9700 + nforce2- nvidia 1.0261 drivers (with agpgart patch for 3rd party graphics cards) and ML 9.1
Man, I can guarantee you I am happily married and straight, but I couls
still kiss you. :) Thx. Somehow with this patch it worked. I just finished
testing Unreal Tournament 2003. :) :) :) Yeeey :) Now I just wonder what is
the difference between this and the nvidia patch?!? :/ Why does this work
and the NVIDIA patch fails?!?
Best regards,
Adrian
- Original Message -
From: "Joerg Mertin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Radeon 9700 + nforce2- nvidia 1.0261 drivers (with
agpgart patch for 3rd party graphics cards) and ML 9.1
> Hi Mate,
>
> hehehe :) Here we go again. I have by now bought a Radeon 9500 Pro - and
> still have my Asus Nforce 2 Board running smoothly.
>
> What you actuually have to do is the following.
> 1. Get the kernel source. Best is taking the source in the mdk. updates
> section.
> 2. Apply the AGP Patch (For the Radeon). You can find it under:
> http://etudiant.epita.fr:8000/~nonolk/nforce-agp.diff
> cd /usr/src/
> patch -p0 -E -s < nforce-agp.diff
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file
> linux/include/linux/agp_backend.h.rej
>
> You'll see one rejection. That's no problem.
>
> cd linux/include/linux
> emacs agp_backend.h.rej agp_backend.h
>
> You'll see the following:
>
> ***
> *** 82,87
>SVWRKS_LE,
>SVWRKS_GENERIC,
>HP_ZX1,
>};
>
>typedef struct _agp_version {
> --- 82,89
>SVWRKS_LE,
>SVWRKS_GENERIC,
>HP_ZX1,
> + NV_NFORCE,
> + NV_NFORCE_2,
>};
>
>typedef struct _agp_version {
>
>So - go to the mentioned line 82 in the agp_backend.h file, type in
>(For the Emacs):
>-X goto-line
>82
>
> And you'll see that all you need to add here is the 2 missing lines:
> NV_NFORCE,
> NV_NFORCE_2,
>
> after HP_Zx1, to have a working include file.
>
> Go to you normal /usr/src/linux directory - and perform a kernel
> configuration - e.g. make menuconfig (xconfig doesn't work for me) :)
>
> Compile the kernel: make depend && make bzImage && make modules && make
> modules_install
>
> Copy the kernel Imagefile to the boot Directory and adapt your Lilo/Grub
> configuration accordingly.
>
> NOTE: ALWAYS keep the old kernel for security reasons !
>
> Once this is done - reboot your system and you should have the new
> version running, with agp support. Test it by issuing:
>
> modprobe agpgart
>
> It should work out of the Box.
>
> Now - all you need to do is get the ATI stuff from:
> http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati.html
>
> and install these according to their INSTALL.txt file :)
> Should work out of the box.
>
>
> The entire thread discussing the agp_patch is here:
>
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=5d07a26525213a8a13d6279cd9bd8bee&threadid=9396&perpage=25&pagenumber=7
>
> Having it done like this - I now can run UT2003, Guake 3 Arena Tuxracer,
> etc
>
> Cheers & Good luck :)
>
> Joerg
>
> Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Did anyone succeed in getting them work together nicely? If so
> > please explain step by step like for an retarded idiot:) how you did it.
> > I got it to the point that the agpgart module loads and the fglrx module
> > loads. In X fglrxinfo displays the ATI driver and also the OpenGL from
> > ATI and not the Mesa one. Though everything seems fine, I cannot start
> > any application including fgl_glxgears or tuxracer without my PC
> > freezing. I looked in the /var/log/kernel/errors and saw something about
> > fglrx:firegl_unlock drm_ioremapfree and an attempt to call something on
> > a NULL. Funny stuff is that I have no other warning/error whatsoever in
> > dmesg, XFree86 log or messages. :/ When I try to start fgl_glxgears PC
> > freezes instantly without doing anything (I remain in the screen where I
> > tried starting it). Only a hard reboot is possible (no Ctrl-Bksp, no
> > SysReq, nada). :( I thought maybe something screwy is going on with my
> > fgl_glxgears so I tried Tuxracer. A bit better. My screen went black and
> > monitor made the "click" it does when changing video modes, stayed there
> > for a few seconds and then monitor switched to standby like it does when
> > no signal comes (for ex when PC is off). In the meantime I could hear an
> > endless looping sound in my headset. :( Also beside hard reset nothing
> > of the "normal" ways to regain control of the PC worked :( I switched on
> > my TV to see if it outputs there something, but no go (thought the
> > rascal switched output to the TV-OUT maybe). :( I got the latest ati
> > driver for X 4.3.0 (I think is 2.9.12). Did a clean kernel recompile, a
> > clean uninstall and rebuild/reinstall of the NVIDIA_nforce driver for
> > the agpgart and also cleanly uninstalled and installed the fglrx driver.
> > Same simptom. :( Am going nuts. So please if you managed to do it tell
> > me how and any thoughts on how to debug the crash. If it would have
Re: [expert] kernel bug still not fixed
As I cut and pasted main.c from this e-mail it wouldn't compile... do
to a number | (pipes) showing up. What I got was
i get no |'s when cut/paste... using mozilla mail. The main.c file has
no |'s in it.
#include
#include
int main ( )
{
| | | | printf("hello world\n");
}
(I had to edit this to make them visible in the e-mail.)
but when I removed them.
#include
#include
int main ( )
{
printf("hello world\n");
}
That is correct.
it worked fine here on 9.1 with gcc3. It's possible I guess that your
e-mail client inserted the pipes or mine did when cutting or pasting...
not sure. The important part is that it compiled, and ran, as expected.
What I'm running.
Mandrake 9.1
Kernel 2.4.21-18mdk (stock)
libgcc1-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc-cpp-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc-c++-3.2.2-3mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -qa | grep gcc
gcc-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc-g77-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc2.96-cpp-2.96-0.82mdk
gcc-objc-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc2.96-c++-2.96-0.82mdk
gcc-colorgcc-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc-cpp-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc2.96-2.96-0.82mdk
gcc-doc-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc-java-3.2.2-3mdk
libgcc1-3.2.2-3mdk
gcc-c++-3.2.2-3mdk
my uname -a
Linux jamlin.linuxpda.biz 2.4.21-0.18mdk #1 Wed Jun 4 12:38:37 MDT 2003
i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
If you note I'm not using the enterprise version of the kernel. I'm
instead using the standard. Since in my case our workstations don't
seem to benefit from it at all. (ie no performance change, or other
gain)
I use the enterprise version of the kernel because I have over 900MB of
ram. some machines have 2GB or more.
Machines running the regular kernel (smaller amount of ram) have the
same problem.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a
Linux mirror.jpl.nasa.gov 2.4.21-0.18mdksmp #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 09:48:52
MDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat main.c
#include
#include
int main ( )
{
printf("hello world\n");
}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ gcc -g -o main main.c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ free
total used free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:773984 766368 7616 0 52 412204
-/+ buffers/cache: 354112 419872
Swap: 20971364002096736
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ gdb ./main
GNU gdb 5.3-22mdk (Mandrake Linux)
Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i586-mandrake-linux-gnu"...
(gdb) break 6
Breakpoint 1 at 0x804834c: file main.c, line 6.
(gdb) run
Starting program: /home/driver/main
Warning:
Cannot insert breakpoint -2.
Error accessing memory address 0x4000af50: Input/output error.
The same program may be running in another process.
(gdb)
When you say "it worked fine" what do you mean? Yes, the program runs
just fine. but I cannot trace the program in gdb, set breakpoints, or
step thru the program
I've also tried the UNI-proccess kernels and have the same problem.
None of the machines are "upgraded" machines, mandrake was installed
fresh via kickstart.
--
Bryan Whitehead
SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry and Large Optical Systems
Phone: 818 354 2903
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Re: [expert] Radeon 9700 + nforce2- nvidia 1.0261 drivers (with agpgart patch for 3rd party graphics cards) and ML 9.1
Hold on Hold On, I' m married too, and very happy with it ;) I don' t know what the difference to your patch was - however - it worked with the one I mentioned here :) So - it should be fine on your side too. The reason I think this patch works -m is because it was done by someone who plays too :) Adrian Golumbovici wrote: Man, I can guarantee you I am happily married and straight, but I couls still kiss you. :) Thx. Somehow with this patch it worked. I just finished testing Unreal Tournament 2003. :) :) :) Yeeey :) Now I just wonder what is the difference between this and the nvidia patch?!? :/ Why does this work and the NVIDIA patch fails?!? Cheers Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice & Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Radeon 9700 + nforce2- nvidia 1.0261 drivers (with agpgart patch for 3rd party graphics cards) and ML 9.1
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > Hi Mate, :) > > Yeap, here we go again. Strange thing is that I did all is written > underneath except for applying the patch you point to. I applied the one > from nvidia. Is something different in the one below? For one thing, the > result of the patch had some other rejects with the patch from nvidia (there > was no reject in the agp_backend.h). Also, any idea how I can trace the > freeze of my PC? Any special boot params or bios settings? Hmmm. Could you send me the Patch from NVidia to my private E-Mail (Signature) ? So I can check if that one works or is similar. The Boot params are the mem=nopentium and acpi=off. The rest is as is. Guess - for the freeze ? only thing you could do is starting your computer X-Server from a remote console (other computer) by enabling debugmessages. You might see what's going on with that. Cheers Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice & Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] box hangs in sleep mode
hi everyone! my box (mandrake 9.1) seems to sometimes hang up when i leave it alone for a few hours. my guess that it has something to do with a sleep mode, where the the graphic card is "turned off" or something, since it never happens when i'm working with it. the graphic card is a geforce4 mx 440. any ideas ? tnx & greetings, le stu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] changing fs
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 13:22, David Hlacik wrote: > Hi, i have some partitions with NTFS and i am going to change to FAT32. > How can i do it under Linux console? > > > David Hlacik cp -a the data into another partition, then use mkfs to reformat the partition to fat32, then mv -a the data back in. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] changing fs
On Monday 16 June 2003 04:22 pm, David Hlacik wrote: > Hi, i have some partitions with NTFS and i am going to change to FAT32. > How can i do it under Linux console? > > Yu can't convert that I know of. You'd have to back up the partition, reformat it as fat32 and then copy the data back. If your trying to share data between Windows and Linux, linux can read ntfs even though it is not safe to write, instead of converting, why not just create a small fat32 partition so that you can save the data created in linux so it is accessible to Windows. Anything on the ntfs partition can be read from linux. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] how not to lose the 3rd party modules when recompiling kernel
Hi all, I am having a bit of a problem. Most times you recompile kernels are to get support for hardware you have, but the default flavour kernel don't have it. at least 90% of the times when you recompile is just to enable a few things, disable some other or after a patch, but using same kernel version. But this should not influence IMHO the 3rd party modules (or at least 99.99% of the time). For some strange reason each time I recompile the kernel, the 3rd party modules just disappear from the /lib/modules/... and then have to reinstall them. With custom compiled modules am not sure if only to copy the previous compiled module in the /lib/modules/... would work (didn't try it/always recompiled), but with rpmed modules you definitely have to rpm -e and then rpm -ivh again. :/ It is a major PITA if you have more than a couple of such modules. Anyone any idea what am I doing wrong, or how to prevent the kernel recompile make my 3rd party modules disappear? Best regards, Adrian
Re: [expert] Apache redirects incorrectly
I didn't notice this under Mandrake 8 - but I did run into the problem when I upgraded to 9.1 - and, more specifically, apache 2. After a bit of chasing around, I was able to solve the problem by explicitly setting the ServerName variable in /etc/httpd/2.0/conf/httpd2.conf. Brian. From: Jesus Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi everybody, i'm new in the list, and i've got a problem with Apache under Mandrake 8. I've got an Apache server running on a Windows XP, and everything works ok, but now i'm trying to configure it to run under Linux. The problem is that the page links do not redirect to the localhost but to the URL: Under XP: http://localhost/ all the links in the page refer to localhost. Under Linux: http://localhost/ then all the links in the page refer to http://www.elacuariodeaguadulce.com wich is the Internet URL. Really i don't know why the Apache server redirects it to the URL instead of the localhost. The server is Apache, running PHP and MySQL. Does anybody knows it? (I don't know if the question is clear enought) Thanks in advance, Chus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] application/buffered/cache
On 16 Jun 2003 00:05:14 -0700 James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] >> Suffice it to say >> my box always appears about to swap.. and never does. Even when I run >> win4lin and a user mode linux install at the same time as my main >> install I still don't swap. With 512 megs of Ram like you have there >> may be 20 megs (or less not sure) that will never be available to non >> os related processes ... but the rest is there whenever you need it. >> >> James This is very reassuring, James. I guess I can now consider using MDK as my main OS - quite an exciting prospect :) many thanks, Janet Blankfield "Some doubt the existence of the sun as it slides (like God) between the girders." - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how not to lose the 3rd party modules when recompilingkernel
Adrian Golumbovici wrote: Hi all, I am having a bit of a problem. Most times you recompile kernels are to get support for hardware you have, but the default flavour kernel don't have it. at least 90% of the times when you recompile is just to enable a few things, disable some other or after a patch, but using same kernel version. But this should not influence IMHO the 3rd party modules (or at least 99.99% of the time). For some strange reason each time I recompile the kernel, the 3rd party modules just disappear from the /lib/modules/... and then have to reinstall them. With custom compiled modules am not sure if only to copy the previous compiled module in the /lib/modules/... would work (didn't try it/always recompiled), but with rpmed modules you definitely have to rpm -e and then rpm -ivh again. :/ It is a major PITA if you have more than a couple of such modules. Anyone any idea what am I doing wrong, or how to prevent the kernel recompile make my 3rd party modules disappear? Best regards, Adrian What are the steps you are taking to recompile the kernel? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
Re: [expert] per-directory umask
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 18:26, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Sunday 15 June 2003 08:48 pm, Steven Broos wrote: > > Resend (june 4th) > > > > What I basically need is: > > - a shared directory for users in a group > > - Access to own files > > - No access to other files > > - Access to all files for user apache > > I now I can use their homedirs in apache, but I would like to do this in > > one directory if possible. > > > > Anyone who can help me please ? > > > How about this? Does anybiody else see how this would not work for you? > > Directory owned by apache with group ownership consituting a group made up of > your users with permissions 775. Have all files owned by user apache so that > apache has full access. Then have the group ownership be the user group > since each user has his/her own group, in my case the greg group, thus giving > me full access to the files you want me to edit, and then set permission to > 664 so it would look something like this: > > www-dir user=apache group=www-users rwxrwxr-x > > user1file user=apache group=user1 rw-rw-r-- > user2file user=apache group=user2 rw-rw-r-- > Steven, Did not want to have others have access to others files. So the following: > user1file user=apache group=user1 rw-rw-r-- > user2file user=apache group=user2 rw-rw-r-- Would need to be changed to at least: > user1file user=apache group=user1 rw-rw > user2file user=apache group=user2 rw-rw Mike > apache has fullread/write access to both files, as long as user1 is not in the > apache group, s/he only has read/write access to their own files, same for > user2. All users have the ability to view the files. I assume this is okay > because they could browse to them on the intranet. > > -- > Greg > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Michael Noble mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how not to lose the 3rd party modules when recompiling kernel
The normal steps according to most kernel compile howtos: make dep clean bzImage modules install modules_install And by 3rd party modules I didn't mean the ones which come with the ML 9.1, but ones like the nvnet, fglrx, pwcx and such which you have to install yourself separate from kernel, but which are installed by default in the /lib/modules section of the compiled kernel (along with the modules from the default flavour kernel). Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: Brant Fitzsimmons To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:04 AM Subject: Re: [expert] how not to lose the 3rd party modules when recompiling kernel Adrian Golumbovici wrote: Hi all, I am having a bit of a problem. Most times you recompile kernels are to get support for hardware you have, but the default flavour kernel don't have it. at least 90% of the times when you recompile is just to enable a few things, disable some other or after a patch, but using same kernel version. But this should not influence IMHO the 3rd party modules (or at least 99.99% of the time). For some strange reason each time I recompile the kernel, the 3rd party modules just disappear from the /lib/modules/... and then have to reinstall them. With custom compiled modules am not sure if only to copy the previous compiled module in the /lib/modules/... would work (didn't try it/always recompiled), but with rpmed modules you definitely have to rpm -e and then rpm -ivh again. :/ It is a major PITA if you have more than a couple of such modules. Anyone any idea what am I doing wrong, or how to prevent the kernel recompile make my 3rd party modules disappear? Best regards, Adrian What are the steps you are taking to recompile the kernel?-- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
Re: [expert] how not to lose the 3rd party modules when recompilingkernel
Adrian Golumbovici wrote: The normal steps according to most kernel compile howtos: make dep clean bzImage modules install modules_install And by 3rd party modules I didn't mean the ones which come with the ML 9.1, but ones like the nvnet, fglrx, pwcx and such which you have to install yourself separate from kernel, but which are installed by default in the /lib/modules section of the compiled kernel (along with the modules from the default flavour kernel). Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: Brant Fitzsimmons To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:04 AM Subject: Re: [expert] how not to lose the 3rd party modules when recompiling kernel Adrian Golumbovici wrote: Hi all, I am having a bit of a problem. Most times you recompile kernels are to get support for hardware you have, but the default flavour kernel don't have it. at least 90% of the times when you recompile is just to enable a few things, disable some other or after a patch, but using same kernel version. But this should not influence IMHO the 3rd party modules (or at least 99.99% of the time). For some strange reason each time I recompile the kernel, the 3rd party modules just disappear from the /lib/modules/... and then have to reinstall them. With custom compiled modules am not sure if only to copy the previous compiled module in the /lib/modules/... would work (didn't try it/always recompiled), but with rpmed modules you definitely have to rpm -e and then rpm -ivh again. :/ It is a major PITA if you have more than a couple of such modules. Anyone any idea what am I doing wrong, or how to prevent the kernel recompile make my 3rd party modules disappear? Best regards, Adrian What are the steps you are taking to recompile the kernel? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Someone tell me if I am wrong buy I think you have two steps in the incorrect order. I believe it should be: make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install install The last two steps need to be in that order because "install" creates an initrd file based on the contents of your /lib/modules/new_kernel_name which is created by the "modules_install" command. If the "install" command comes first there are no modules present upon which to base the initrd file. Switch the last two steps and see what happens. If it doesn't work let me know and I'll be sure to shut up. I'm kind of new to helping people. :-) -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:23 am, Tru64 User had this to contribute :- > Let me know what you guys think. _Thanks Richard Mollel Sort of defeats the purpose of the list. It is the think tank element of everyone throwing something in that makes this list a valuable learning experience IMHO. I wonder how long the list that uses the rules you mention has been running? It might also be relevant to know what it is dealing with I suppose? I certainly can't identify such an environment as allowing maximum discovery. Not quite 2 cents worth I know. Charlie. -- Man is the only animal for whom his own existence is a problem which he has to solve. Erich Fromm This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mouse Wheel double click
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:13 pm, Per-Olof Litby - Reg'l Mgr Nordic/Baltic - Java Web Services - Sun Microsystems had this to contribute :- > One of the nice features of using a wheel mouse in Windows is that the > wheel button can be configured to do several different things, including > double click which is something I've gotten used to. > > Is there a way to do this in Mandrake? > > thanks, May I ask what it is that you want your wheel double clicking to do? One thing that the mouse wheel single click can do in Linux, is paste highlighted text, into any application. To which I have become accustomed and doesn't do by default in windows. Though it might be possible to enable it in that O/S, but I don't use it enough to worry. Charlie. -- Man is the only animal for whom his own existence is a problem which he has to solve. Erich Fromm This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailing List mis-management?
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 12:45, Pierre Fortin wrote: > Anne, > > This is an *ancient* problem... I pointed it out about 2 years ago IIRC > -- when there were all sorts of other mail issues... it wasn't fixed then > and probably won't be fixed now... the solution is simple -- don't cross > post... send 2 messages... Pierre, I wonder if this "bug" isn't intentional ... by taking the first "address" in a cross posted e-mail only, it's a great way to prevent cross posts and spam related cross posts. ... James > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:14:54 +0100 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Earlier today I sent a post to the newbie list and the expert list, > > saying that we should get started on a hardward compatibility list on > > the TWiki site. Cross-posted, you understand (not a thing I normally > > do, but it seemed justified at the time). > > > > I received my two copies, which my filters put both into the newbie > > folder - or so I thought. However, Eric then mailed me about this. > > You may remember that he has brought up this subject before. I think > > that it was generally thought that he was mistaken (I admit I thought > > so too), but when he raised the question I checked the full headers > > for the posts. *Both* of them said > > > > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I had thought it strange that no-one from the expert list had > > answered, but it seems Eric is right - it never got there. > > > > An hour or two later, Greg posted to the newbie list that he had > > started the page. I forwarded his post to the expert list, for > > information. That was perhaps 5 hours ago. I has not shown up. > > > > We seem to have serious problems here. > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 21:39, charlie wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:23 am, Tru64 User had this to contribute :- > > Let me know what you guys think. > > _Thanks > > Richard Mollel > > Sort of defeats the purpose of the list. It is the think tank element of > everyone throwing something in that makes this list a valuable learning > experience IMHO. > > I wonder how long the list that uses the rules you mention has been running? > It might also be relevant to know what it is dealing with I suppose? I > certainly can't identify such an environment as allowing maximum discovery. > > Not quite 2 cents worth I know. > > Charlie. I agree and add that this is hardly a busy list that borders on being too much too handle. You can always hit delete on the topics your not interested in. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] changing fs
> > Hi, i have some partitions with NTFS and i am going to change to > > FAT32. How can i do it under Linux console? > > cp -a the data into another partition, then use mkfs to reformat the > partition to fat32, then mv -a the data back in. On my machine, i have one ntfs partition with all of WinXP on it. If i did what's suggested above, would it preserve the bootability, etc, of that partition? Thanks, eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] changing fs
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 21:04, eric huff wrote: > > > Hi, i have some partitions with NTFS and i am going to change to > > > FAT32. How can i do it under Linux console? > > > > cp -a the data into another partition, then use mkfs to reformat the > > partition to fat32, then mv -a the data back in. > > On my machine, i have one ntfs partition with all of WinXP on it. If i did > what's suggested above, would it preserve the bootability, etc, of that > partition? > > Thanks, > eric > nope -- for that you'd want to investigate an XP-native conversion tool. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] cannot get to /mnt/c_windows from konqueror
either from user or admin, but can from mozilla and galeon. Can someone show me how to fix cheers, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Extracting a URL from a Java applet
The scenario is that I would like to pass a url to mplayer from a Javascript applet, so I can play a WMA soundstream. Manually; like with copy and paste, straight to the command line. However it's like pulling eyeteeth to get a source URL out of a java applet. Does anybody have a way to do this? Seems like Miark posted a similar solution a while back using Lynx, but I can't remember if that was relevant or not. Any help would be nice. --LX -- Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Linux Mandrake 9.1 Enlightenment-0.16.5-12mdk Evolution 1.2.4-1.1mdk Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] How might I get ACPI to work with mdk9.1?
Hi-- I've read through the mailing lists and searched for two days now for a solution to my laptops power management. I went into lilo.conf and set acpi=yes and rebooted, but I'm not quite sure what to do from here. Do I need to apply the patch found on Sourceforge or was bamboo's kernel already patched? Any help _very_very_ appreciated! Regards, Matt Osborne Electrical/Computer Engineering Christian Brothers University Memphis, Tennessee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
