RE: [expert] Newsflash: Gentoo has forked.

2003-06-27 Thread Frankie
no wait.. whats the download mirror for stephens version of mandrake 
:-)
sounds like an M$ killer.

rgds

Franki

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On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 04:33, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> Gentoo has been one of MDK's greatest competitors so far, maintaining
> fourth place at Distrowatch.com right behind Red Hat.  Mandrake of course
> has almost consistently maintained it's first place position there.
>
> I find it interesting that so far we in the Mandrake world have avoided
> forking, thus maintaining our strength in concentrated form.  Even though
> there are disagreements and disputes.  It shows the strength of the
> Mandrake community.
>
> Mandrakians seem to be strong in that they are able to put up with
> disagreements and flaws without getting totally annoyed and just leavi?g.
>  I think this is because mainly that we have voices in the form of votes
> and the mailing lists.  As well as the forums.  So there is the
> impression that everyone is helping to some degree.
>
> http://www.zynot.org/info/faq.html
>
> --LX
>
I guess you did not hear about Stephen Kuhn's "fork" called the dirty
old Man-drake, with 3 extra gigs of p0rn? special lesbian (and friends
of lesbian version available with signed affidavit.)

 no further discussion of it here tho this is only for the OT
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Re: [expert] adsl logging ip add changes live

2003-06-27 Thread Bill Mullen

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Steve Cox - dig wrote:

> This might be a little bit newbie, not sure. I want to keep an eye on my
> ip address off my adsl line, as it changes I would like a scirpt to run,
> basically uploading to a hosted out website. Currently I use a cron job
> every 15 mins that checks if the current ip is the same as the last in
> /var/log/syslog, if not then and only then upload it. I do not run any
> mail services, I do however run apache live for webpages only. It is on
> a text only machine, Mandrake9.1, P1 100mhz, that doubles as my gateway
> for small lan at home. If anyone has pointers, please share.

If your ADSL modem is hooked to eth0, and you get your IP address via 
DHCP, then you can place a script in the /etc/dhcpc/ directory with the 
name "dhcpcd-eth0.exe" (don't forget to make it executable!) and it will 
run every time the dhcpcd daemon determines that your IP address on that 
interface has changed.

I use it to run a lynx command that hits a page on the ZoneEdit.com site,
which determines the IP address that the hit came from, and updates my DNS
entries there accordingly. The script then goes on to send me an e-mail
notification of the change, including the output of "ifconfig eth0".

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Re: [expert] Jims 9.2 request mantra

2003-06-27 Thread Woody Green
Minor detail to add, in man, / takes you to the first
occurrence, pressing 'n' proceeds to the next occurrence.

 Woody

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 23:48, Woody Green wrote:
> Quick search: man -k 
> Detailed search: man -K 
> When in a man page, type: /
> 
> Search of the info pages: info --apropos=
> in info, use the i command. (run: info info)
> 
> grep -rin  /usr/share/doc
> 
> 
> ... most of which are options nearly as old as UNIX itself.
> 
> Enjoy,
>  Woody
> 
> On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:08, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > On Friday 27 June 2003 01:00 am, Jim C wrote:
> > > Searchable help files... Searchable help files... Searchable help
> > > files... Searchable help files... Searchable help files...
> > > ;-)
> > 
> > post it on cooker... post it on cooker... post it on cooker... post it on 
> > cooker... post it on cooker... post it on cooker...  :-)
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Re: [expert] Jims 9.2 request mantra

2003-06-27 Thread Woody Green
Quick search: man -k 
Detailed search: man -K 
When in a man page, type: /

Search of the info pages: info --apropos=
in info, use the i command. (run: info info)

grep -rin  /usr/share/doc


... most of which are options nearly as old as UNIX itself.

Enjoy,
 Woody

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:08, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Friday 27 June 2003 01:00 am, Jim C wrote:
> > Searchable help files... Searchable help files... Searchable help
> > files... Searchable help files... Searchable help files...
> > ;-)
> 
> post it on cooker... post it on cooker... post it on cooker... post it on 
> cooker... post it on cooker... post it on cooker...  :-)
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Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.

2003-06-27 Thread Robert Crawford
I found this page that gives pretty good explanations of the subject. Makes me 
want to recompile and try 1000Hz. I did a google search for "variable Hz 
redhat" and it listed a few other good pages.

http://kerneltrap.org/node.php?id=464

Robert

On Saturday 28 June 2003 00:31, Joeb wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:51:28 -0400
> Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>
> > I'd really
> > be interested in learning about RedHat's thinking on this subject- can
> > you point us to where you learned about this? I'm all for doing anything
> > to increase performance.
>
> That's my problem, I can't remember where I found it on the web!  I know it
> was back during the 8.0 days of Mandrake.  I recall a post, that I thought
> was on one of the Mandrake lists, but I sure can't find it.  The post
> pointed to an article about increasing the HZ size and how it improved
> response times for desktop users.  It also stated that Redhat was doing
> this with their kernels, which is why their i386 seemed so snappy compared
> to Mandrake and Suse.  The downside was something about timings being off
> for some tools because the items in /proc weren't aware that the HZ had
> been changed.  It was my understanding with Redhat 9, they continued this
> practice of changing the HZ but also modified the tools that calculate the
> various things in /proc.
>
> I'm sorry I don't have more information, but I have long since given up
> finding the original article.  It seems Google wants to return 50,000+ hits
> everytime I try and after a few hundred, I give up.
>
> If I ever find my hard copy, I'll type it back in to the list.
>
> Joeb
>
> p.s. It's also my understanding that the 2.5/2.6 kernel has increased this
> setting.


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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion - addition

2003-06-27 Thread richard bown
Been watching this one, I'm OK here as I have an alleged 500KB download
speed, never seen it yet !.
But why not add a feature something like used in Kazaa or bit torrent,
so that the download is from multiple sources and it keeps restarting
the download on link failure.
You could then leave the machine on when you go to bed and hopefully its
all done when you get up.
Just an idea

Richard

On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 04:41, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> 
> > On Friday 27 June 2003 07:52 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > It would be way nice if I could do a MandrakeUpdate at work/school with
> > my laptop and select to save the downloaded rpms so I could go home,
> > connect up to my desktop, and upgrade it too.  MandrakeUpdate deletes all
> > the rpms it downloads, and good thing else you would begin to seriously
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > On those rare occassions when I do decide to give MandrakeUpdate a go
> > at home
> > over my slow modem connection; if I try to do a big update, it
> > stands a
> > good chance of failing.  I may be trying to update ghostscript or qt3,
> > large
> > files, so I get MandrakeUpdate going and leave it to do its business.  
> > Problem is, if my dialup goes down and then comes back up (a distinct
> > possibility), MandrakeUpdate fails.  It needs to have a wget-like
> > mendaciousness.  If during updating the internet connection goes down
> > and is
> > then re-established, like wget, MandrakeUpdate should get back to
> > downloading.  As it now stands, if the net connection dies and gets
> > re-established while the download process is ongoing, the game is over
> > and
> > any time spent downloading was for naught.  How about giving
> > MandrakeUpdate
> > an autoresume ability?
> >
> > praedor
> 
> If you use urpmi --auto-select --noclean and have an rsync (as opposed
> to ftp or http) update source you may get that functionality.  If the
> download gets interrupted I believe it will start from where it stopped
> the next time you try.
> 
> Someone let me know if I'm wrong.
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Re: [expert] hostname

2003-06-27 Thread richard bown


Thanks , that fixed it :))
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 00:18, Edoardo Comar wrote:
> In 9.1 Using Mandrake Control Center, the network wizard in expert mode:
> has a checkbox for 'getting hostname from dhcp'
> and a textfield for manually setting the hostname
> 
> Edoardo
> 
> 
> 
> richard bown wrote:
> 
> >Thanks Dave , is there anyway of stopping the dchp daemon from over
> >writing my hostname ?
> >
> >TIA
> > Richard
> >
> >On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 18:44, Dave Sherman wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>richard bown wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi 
> >>>up to a few days ago, if I opened a xterm my hostname was as I set it.
> >>>ie gb7tf
> >>>now and I cant find the file to change, its 
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>all the files containing the hostname seem OK
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>Normally, the hostname is in /etc/sysconfig/network. However, it can be 
> >>overridden by an entry in /etc/sysconfig/networking/ifcfg-*, or 
> >>/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*. The dhcp client daemon can 
> >>overwrite these files, if it receives a hostname from the dhcp server.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion - addition

2003-06-27 Thread Damon Lynch
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 14:51, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> How about giving MandrakeUpdate 
> an autoresume ability?

I agree.  This would be very useful.  It would certainly simplify life
for those users who do not have a dedicated connection, potentially
greatly reducing stress or concern about what will happen if the
connection is terminated early (for whatever reason).

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Re: [expert] radeon 8500

2003-06-27 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 23:33, Vincent Danen wrote:
...
> You know, I may actually have to try tuxracer out... truth be told, I
> haven't given it a go once.  But Frozen Bubble should be cool, although it
> ran quite nicely before... I can't imagine it taking advantage of too much
> 3D accel.
> 

FB won't run any better, but tuxracer will fly :-)

> Now if I could figure out how to make Quake2 work in 9.1, then I'd be a
> *real* happy camper (to the extent that now I'm dual booting to deal with my
> RPG cravings).

That I can probably help with -- I'm a q2 junky. Even got a dedicated
server running that you're probably not too far from :-)
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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion

2003-06-27 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 27 June 2003 09:01 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
>
> I think if you run urpmi with --no-clean it will keep all of the updated
> rpms in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms when you do your updates.  You can go home
> and transfer them to your un-updated machine, or leave them where they
> are, and add them as a source in urpmi.

Before I got my cable modem, I just mirrored the update tree at work and 
burned myself a cd on re-writeable media.  Every time there were updates, I 
would just update the disk, and then I added itas an update media.
-- 
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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion

2003-06-27 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons




Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

  Praedor Atrebates wrote:

  
  
At home I am stuck forevermore with a godawful slow dialup
connection.  As a
result, I rarely do a MandrakeUpdate from home - takes way too long with
anything over a several megs of files.  My laptop gets access to a fast
connection at my university so it gets updated often...but such a
waste.  My
laptop is a pathetic old celery 366 stinkpad.  
   It would be way nice if I could do a MandrakeUpdate at work/school
with my
laptop and select to save the downloaded rpms so I could go home,
connect up
to my desktop, and upgrade it too.  MandrakeUpdate deletes all the
rpms it
downloads, and good thing else you would begin to seriously consume hdd
space.  What I would like is an option to save the rpm downloaded by
MandrakeUpdate...perhaps to another directory or simply leave them in
their
cache directory until I elect to dump them.  Make MandrakeUpdate default
behavior to delete the downloads but give an option to save them.

How about it?

praedor

  
  
I think if you run urpmi with --no-clean it will keep all of the updated
rpms in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms when you do your updates.  You can go home
and transfer them to your un-updated machine, or leave them where they
are, and add them as a source in urpmi.
  

I meant to say --noclean.  Sorry.

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Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident."
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Re: [expert] "updatedb" crashes system - update.

2003-06-27 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 08:15, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Monday 23 June 2003 09:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> 
> > Yes it can... I had this in var one time on a box.  Boot from disk 1 in
> > rescue mode and have it mount your partitions... then from it go in and
> > delete this dir.  This took care of this for me.
> >
> > James
> 
> Wonder what the diff is between that and doing (as su) a "rm -f -r "?
> 
> Thanks.

yeah -- if the FS or disk is screwed, rm won't work. Even if you're UID
0.
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Re: [expert] Kernel Logging Too Much

2003-06-27 Thread Jack Coates
The complete log entry would be handy for determining what produced it
and why... but this is most likely the result of a) an overly aggressive
log policy in whatever firewall package or b) a misconfigured network.

On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 13:09, Tru64 User wrote:
> HI,
> THis is a new box with 9.0 mandy...kernel 2.4.19
> 
> It seems to be loggin everything that passes thru the
> NICall broadcast messages on the LAN are being
> recorded on /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog and
> /var/log/kernel/errors
> 
> Need to stop this..or minimize to relevant number
> 
> TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=8515 PROTO=UDP SPT=137
> DPT=137 LEN=58
> 
> _thanks
> 
> Richard 
> 
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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion - addition

2003-06-27 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Praedor Atrebates wrote:

> On Friday 27 June 2003 07:52 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> [...]
>
> It would be way nice if I could do a MandrakeUpdate at work/school with
> my laptop and select to save the downloaded rpms so I could go home,
> connect up to my desktop, and upgrade it too.  MandrakeUpdate deletes all
> the rpms it downloads, and good thing else you would begin to seriously
>
> [...]
>
> On those rare occassions when I do decide to give MandrakeUpdate a go
> at home
> over my slow modem connection; if I try to do a big update, it
> stands a
> good chance of failing.  I may be trying to update ghostscript or qt3,
> large
> files, so I get MandrakeUpdate going and leave it to do its business.  
> Problem is, if my dialup goes down and then comes back up (a distinct
> possibility), MandrakeUpdate fails.  It needs to have a wget-like
> mendaciousness.  If during updating the internet connection goes down
> and is
> then re-established, like wget, MandrakeUpdate should get back to
> downloading.  As it now stands, if the net connection dies and gets
> re-established while the download process is ongoing, the game is over
> and
> any time spent downloading was for naught.  How about giving
> MandrakeUpdate
> an autoresume ability?
>
> praedor

If you use urpmi --auto-select --noclean and have an rsync (as opposed
to ftp or http) update source you may get that functionality.  If the
download gets interrupted I believe it will start from where it stopped
the next time you try.

Someone let me know if I'm wrong.


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Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.

2003-06-27 Thread Joeb
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:51:28 -0400
Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd really 
> be interested in learning about RedHat's thinking on this subject- can you 
> point us to where you learned about this? I'm all for doing anything to 
> increase performance.


That's my problem, I can't remember where I found it on the web!  I know it was back 
during the 8.0 days of Mandrake.  I recall a post, that I thought was on one of the 
Mandrake lists, but I sure can't find it.  The post pointed to an article about 
increasing the HZ size and how it improved response times for desktop users.  It also 
stated that Redhat was doing this with their kernels, which is why their i386 seemed 
so snappy compared to Mandrake and Suse.  The downside was something about timings 
being off for some tools because the items in /proc weren't aware that the HZ had been 
changed.  It was my understanding with Redhat 9, they continued this practice of 
changing the HZ but also modified the tools that calculate the various things in /proc.

I'm sorry I don't have more information, but I have long since given up finding the 
original article.  It seems Google wants to return 50,000+ hits everytime I try and 
after a few hundred, I give up.

If I ever find my hard copy, I'll type it back in to the list.

Joeb

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Re: [expert] No 3D with NVidia's driver

2003-06-27 Thread Miark
Just in case this second line is important:

 Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
 Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual

I just installed the NVidia kernel and GLX RPMs from MandrakeClub. No
difference.

Miark



On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 22:51:51 -0400
Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My machine has never had a problem with using NVidia's proprietary 3D 
> drivers. But after a fresh install this afternoon, I get this whenever
> I run a GL app:
> 
>   Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
> 
> I get the same thing with glxinfo, glxgears, and cube. I've run and 
> rerun the installer while running the win4lin kernel and the updated
> stock kernel, but to no avail. I checked XF86Config-4 and "glx" is a
> listed module. The modules.conf file has "alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia".
> I've tried an ldconfig. 
> 
> How do I get GLX working?
> 
> tia,
> Miark
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion - addition

2003-06-27 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Friday 27 June 2003 07:52 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
[...]
>It would be way nice if I could do a MandrakeUpdate at work/school with
> my laptop and select to save the downloaded rpms so I could go home,
> connect up to my desktop, and upgrade it too.  MandrakeUpdate deletes all
> the rpms it downloads, and good thing else you would begin to seriously
[...]

On those rare occassions when I do decide to give MandrakeUpdate a go at home 
over my slow modem connection; if I try to do a big update, it stands a 
good chance of failing.  I may be trying to update ghostscript or qt3, large 
files, so I get MandrakeUpdate going and leave it to do its business.  
Problem is, if my dialup goes down and then comes back up (a distinct 
possibility), MandrakeUpdate fails.  It needs to have a wget-like 
mendaciousness.  If during updating the internet connection goes down and is 
then re-established, like wget, MandrakeUpdate should get back to 
downloading.  As it now stands, if the net connection dies and gets 
re-established while the download process is ongoing, the game is over and 
any time spent downloading was for naught.  How about giving MandrakeUpdate 
an autoresume ability?

praedor

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Re: [expert] SETI@home. MDK RPM's???

2003-06-27 Thread Damon Lynch
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 07:56, Rob Blomquist wrote:

> And don't forget ksetispy if you run KDE, as its a great program, and the rpm 
> for Mandrake is on your cds.

I'll second that.  Its package description seems to indicate it is for
KDE2 only, but it works great in KDE3 (and gnome 2 where I use it).

Best wishes,
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[expert] No 3D with NVidia's driver

2003-06-27 Thread Miark
My machine has never had a problem with using NVidia's proprietary 3D 
drivers. But after a fresh install this afternoon, I get this whenever
I run a GL app:

  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".

I get the same thing with glxinfo, glxgears, and cube. I've run and 
rerun the installer while running the win4lin kernel and the updated
stock kernel, but to no avail. I checked XF86Config-4 and "glx" is a
listed module. The modules.conf file has "alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia".
I've tried an ldconfig. 

How do I get GLX working?

tia,
Miark

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Re: [expert] URL menu pop up thingamajigger

2003-06-27 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons




Brian V Bonini wrote:

  On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 21:03, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
  
  
Brian V Bonini wrote:



  That URL thing that pops up in the bottom right hand corner of the
screen from time-to-time, think it's something to do with Konquerer. I
knew how to get rid of it at one time but have since forgotten.
Anyone...
 

  

Right-click on the clip-board with the K on it in the lower right hand
corner and de-select "Enable Actions".

  
  
Thank you!! I knew it was something really stupid and obvious but could
not remember for the life of me and that thing drives me nuts.. ;-)

  

No problem.

I remember because it is burned into my brain.  I really didn't like
that thing.  :-) 

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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion

2003-06-27 Thread John Haywood
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:52 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:


> At home I am stuck forevermore with a godawful slow dialup connection.  As
> a result, I rarely do a MandrakeUpdate from home - takes way too long with
> anything over a several megs of files.  My laptop gets access to a fast
> connection at my university so it gets updated often...but such a waste. 
> My laptop is a pathetic old celery 366 stinkpad.
>It would be way nice if I could do a MandrakeUpdate at work/school with
> my laptop and select to save the downloaded rpms so I could go home,
> connect up to my desktop, and upgrade it too.  MandrakeUpdate deletes all
> the rpms it downloads, and good thing else you would begin to seriously
> consume hdd space.  What I would like is an option to save the rpm
> downloaded by MandrakeUpdate...perhaps to another directory or simply leave
> them in their cache directory until I elect to dump them.  Make
> MandrakeUpdate default behavior to delete the downloads but give an option
> to save them.

it´s odd that urpmi --auto-select --noclean will do exactly this, but the gui 
front end doesn´t include this option,  I agree

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Re: [expert] URL menu pop up thingamajigger

2003-06-27 Thread Brian V Bonini
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 21:03, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> Brian V Bonini wrote:
> 
> >That URL thing that pops up in the bottom right hand corner of the
> >screen from time-to-time, think it's something to do with Konquerer. I
> >knew how to get rid of it at one time but have since forgotten.
> >Anyone...
> >  
> >
> Right-click on the clip-board with the K on it in the lower right hand
> corner and de-select "Enable Actions".

Thank you!! I knew it was something really stupid and obvious but could
not remember for the life of me and that thing drives me nuts.. ;-)


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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion

2003-06-27 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Praedor Atrebates wrote:

> At home I am stuck forevermore with a godawful slow dialup
> connection.  As a
> result, I rarely do a MandrakeUpdate from home - takes way too long with
> anything over a several megs of files.  My laptop gets access to a fast
> connection at my university so it gets updated often...but such a
> waste.  My
> laptop is a pathetic old celery 366 stinkpad.  
>It would be way nice if I could do a MandrakeUpdate at work/school
> with my
> laptop and select to save the downloaded rpms so I could go home,
> connect up
> to my desktop, and upgrade it too.  MandrakeUpdate deletes all the
> rpms it
> downloads, and good thing else you would begin to seriously consume hdd
> space.  What I would like is an option to save the rpm downloaded by
> MandrakeUpdate...perhaps to another directory or simply leave them in
> their
> cache directory until I elect to dump them.  Make MandrakeUpdate default
> behavior to delete the downloads but give an option to save them.
>
> How about it?
>
> praedor

I think if you run urpmi with --no-clean it will keep all of the updated
rpms in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms when you do your updates.  You can go home
and transfer them to your un-updated machine, or leave them where they
are, and add them as a source in urpmi.

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Re: [expert] URL menu pop up thingamajigger

2003-06-27 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Brian V Bonini wrote:

>That URL thing that pops up in the bottom right hand corner of the
>screen from time-to-time, think it's something to do with Konquerer. I
>knew how to get rid of it at one time but have since forgotten.
>Anyone...
>  
>
Right-click on the clip-board with the K on it in the lower right hand
corner and de-select "Enable Actions".

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[expert] URL menu pop up thingamajigger

2003-06-27 Thread Brian V Bonini
That URL thing that pops up in the bottom right hand corner of the
screen from time-to-time, think it's something to do with Konquerer. I
knew how to get rid of it at one time but have since forgotten.
Anyone...


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[expert] Feature request/suggestion

2003-06-27 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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At home I am stuck forevermore with a godawful slow dialup connection.  As a 
result, I rarely do a MandrakeUpdate from home - takes way too long with 
anything over a several megs of files.  My laptop gets access to a fast 
connection at my university so it gets updated often...but such a waste.  My 
laptop is a pathetic old celery 366 stinkpad.  
   It would be way nice if I could do a MandrakeUpdate at work/school with my 
laptop and select to save the downloaded rpms so I could go home, connect up 
to my desktop, and upgrade it too.  MandrakeUpdate deletes all the rpms it 
downloads, and good thing else you would begin to seriously consume hdd 
space.  What I would like is an option to save the rpm downloaded by 
MandrakeUpdate...perhaps to another directory or simply leave them in their 
cache directory until I elect to dump them.  Make MandrakeUpdate default 
behavior to delete the downloads but give an option to save them.

How about it?

praedor
- -- 
The First Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible
dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is 
essential to the welfare of the public.
- --Justice Hugo Black

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Re: [expert] hostname

2003-06-27 Thread Edoardo Comar
In 9.1 Using Mandrake Control Center, the network wizard in expert mode:
has a checkbox for 'getting hostname from dhcp'
and a textfield for manually setting the hostname
Edoardo



richard bown wrote:

Thanks Dave , is there anyway of stopping the dchp daemon from over
writing my hostname ?
TIA
Richard
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 18:44, Dave Sherman wrote:
 

richard bown wrote:
   

Hi 
up to a few days ago, if I opened a xterm my hostname was as I set it.
ie gb7tf
now and I cant find the file to change, its 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
all the files containing the hostname seem OK
 

Normally, the hostname is in /etc/sysconfig/network. However, it can be 
overridden by an entry in /etc/sysconfig/networking/ifcfg-*, or 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*. The dhcp client daemon can 
overwrite these files, if it receives a hostname from the dhcp server.
   



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Re: [expert] Newsflash: Gentoo has forked.

2003-06-27 Thread ed tharp
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 04:33, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> Gentoo has been one of MDK's greatest competitors so far, maintaining
> fourth place at Distrowatch.com right behind Red Hat.  Mandrake of course
> has almost consistently maintained it's first place position there.
> 
> I find it interesting that so far we in the Mandrake world have avoided
> forking, thus maintaining our strength in concentrated form.  Even though
> there are disagreements and disputes.  It shows the strength of the
> Mandrake community.
> 
> Mandrakians seem to be strong in that they are able to put up with
> disagreements and flaws without getting totally annoyed and just leavi?g.
>  I think this is because mainly that we have voices in the form of votes
> and the mailing lists.  As well as the forums.  So there is the
> impression that everyone is helping to some degree.
> 
> http://www.zynot.org/info/faq.html
> 
> --LX
> 
I guess you did not hear about Stephen Kuhn's "fork" called the dirty
old Man-drake, with 3 extra gigs of p0rn? special lesbian (and friends
of lesbian version available with signed affidavit.)

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Re: [expert] hostname

2003-06-27 Thread richard bown

Thanks Dave , is there anyway of stopping the dchp daemon from over
writing my hostname ?

TIA
 Richard

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 18:44, Dave Sherman wrote:
> richard bown wrote:
> > Hi 
> > up to a few days ago, if I opened a xterm my hostname was as I set it.
> > ie gb7tf
> > now and I cant find the file to change, its 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > all the files containing the hostname seem OK
> 
> Normally, the hostname is in /etc/sysconfig/network. However, it can be 
> overridden by an entry in /etc/sysconfig/networking/ifcfg-*, or 
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*. The dhcp client daemon can 
> overwrite these files, if it receives a hostname from the dhcp server.
-- 
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Re: [expert] Compiling kernel from .src.rpm

2003-06-27 Thread Robert Crawford
Thanks Tom!,
That surely is easier than editing an srpm makefile.

Robert

On Friday 27 June 2003 13:07, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Thursday June 26 2003 06:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote:
> > rpm --rebuild --target athlon kernelwhatever.src.rpm
> >
> >
> > This will take up to 3 hours to buid all versions of the kernel
> > (the default action)- some people do a procedure to edit the srpm
> > makefile to only build the type kernel they need, but it's more
> > complicated.
>
>Not really, somethin like,
> rpm --rebuild --with up --without smp --without secure --without
> enterprise --without BOOT --without minimal --without mydsdt
> --without debug --without doc --with source --target athlon
> kernelwhatever.src.rpm
>
>Still it's easier to just to rpm -Uvh the kernel-source rpm and
> compile the kernel.


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Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.

2003-06-27 Thread Robert Crawford
Joeb,
Con posted his response on this list- I'm sure you saw it. Next time I 
recompile, I think I'll set mine higher just to see if it helps. I'd really 
be interested in learning about RedHat's thinking on this subject- can you 
point us to where you learned about this? I'm all for doing anything to 
increase performance.

Thanks,
Robert C.

On Friday 27 June 2003 07:37, Joeb wrote:
> Even though you meant to send this off list, would you mind posting the
> response (or even the thread)?  I'm very interested in this as it is my
> understanding that it is one of main ways that Redhat uses to increase
> performance for desktop use.
>
> Joeb
>
>
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:32:48 -0400
>
> Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry- this was meant to be sent to directly Con Kolivas- Apparently, I
> > messed up and it somehow appeared on the expert list, addressed to
> > myself- still can't figure that one out.
> >
> > Robert C.
> >
> > On Thursday 26 June 2003 19:51, you wrote:
> > > Con,
> > > Tried the new june23 full patch, but couldn't get past make modules. I
> > > then edited my .config file some, and did the base patch, plus the
> > > performance patches, and supermount, all individually, and that worked
> > > out great. Must have been some conflict caused by the old .config.
> > >
> > > Anyway, my question is about setting the Variable Hz- do you mean when
> > > I do xconfig, I should change the setting in General setup to a higher
> > > value, and see if performance is improved? Here's my present value,
> > > that apparently is the default. Or, is that what we're even talking
> > > about? I'm not sure I understand this, due to lack of knowledge.
> > >
> > > # General setup
> > > #
> > > CONFIG_HZ=200
> > >
> > > On your webpage I read:
> > >
> > > Is 1000Hz more overhead than 100Hz? Yes definitely, but not a great
> > > deal. If you change the Hz, use a multiple of 100. There really is no
> > > point going above 1000 Hz.
> > >
> > > I assume this means that if I'm correct and you are referring to that
> > > line in xconfig, I can experiment. Am I also correct in that I need
> > > your patch in order to experiment with this value? Or, am I totally
> > > misunderstanding all of the above, and the ck3 patches already set some
> > > other value to 1000Mhz that I'm confusing with the line in the kernel
> > > .config file?
> > >
> > > Thanks for the great patches- I'm now using 2.4.21 with CK patches
> > > exclusively on MDK 9.1- nothing works better for my desktop box.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Robert Crawford


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Re: [expert] SETI@home. MDK RPM's???

2003-06-27 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Friday 27 June 2003 10:07 am, Ralph Crongeyer wrote:
> Anyone know where to get [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK RPM's?
> Command line version.

You don't need one, as to get a tar.gz and unpack it into your home directory 
where it should run.

And don't forget ksetispy if you run KDE, as its a great program, and the rpm 
for Mandrake is on your cds.

Rob

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Re: [expert] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

2003-06-27 Thread Guilherme Cirne
At least it is nice to know that I am not the only one with this 
problem...

On Friday 27 June 2003 14:12, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
> I have this exact problem.
>
> And I havn't been able to figure it out.
>
> the most annoying part is the newest jbuilder looks like crap now
>
> Guilherme Cirne wrote:
> > I sent the message below to the Newbie list but unfortunately nobody
> > could help me. I apologise if anyone is reading it for the second
> > time.
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very
> > hard to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I
> > can send this to anyone who is willing to help.
> >
> > Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font
> > (Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all
> > components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be.
> >
> > I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida
> > Sans and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the
> > strange thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to
> > Lucida Sans directly then the height is calculated correctly and the
> > component looks like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans
> > font. This can be seen clearly on the screenshot which I made.
> >
> > This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have
> > also tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and
> > 1.4.2 beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1
> > specific issue. I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1
> > on different machines and the results are the same.
> >
> > So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful.
> > And don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much
> > clearer to see the problem.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> >---
> >
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Re: [expert] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

2003-06-27 Thread Bryan Whitehead
I have this exact problem.

And I havn't been able to figure it out.

the most annoying part is the newest jbuilder looks like crap now

Guilherme Cirne wrote:
I sent the message below to the Newbie list but unfortunately nobody could 
help me. I apologise if anyone is reading it for the second time.

Hi all,

I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very hard 
to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I can send 
this to anyone who is willing to help.

Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font 
(Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all 
components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be.

I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida Sans 
and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the strange 
thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to Lucida Sans 
directly then the height is calculated correctly and the component looks 
like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans font. This can be 
seen clearly on the screenshot which I made.

This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have also 
tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 
beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1 specific issue. 
I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1 on different 
machines and the results are the same.

So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful. And 
don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much clearer 
to see the problem.

TIA,





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[expert] adsl logging ip add changes live

2003-06-27 Thread Steve Cox - dig
Hi there,
This might be a little bit newbie, not sure. I want to keep an eye on my ip 
address off my adsl line, as it changes I would like a scirpt to run, 
basically uploading to a hosted out website. Currently I use a cron job every 
15 mins that checks if the current ip is the same as the last in 
/var/log/syslog, if not then and only then upload it. I do not run any mail 
services, I do however run apache live for webpages only. It is on a text 
only machine, Mandrake9.1, P1 100mhz, that doubles as my gateway for small 
lan at home. If anyone has pointers, please share.

I dont really want to run dyndns just yet, but if this turns out to be the 
best solution, then so be it, I will.

Oh, I am more a user, and not so good at bash & scripting, so if there isnt an 
easy way, dont worry, I'll go the dyndns route.

Best regards
Steve Cox

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RE: [expert] Installation advice

2003-06-27 Thread Frankie
A 133 will run 9.1, but I wouldn't be expecting alot of speed..

in fact anything after 7.2 would be pretty slow.

I run 9.1 on one machine that is a 233mmx and its ok.. but I still don't use
it as a desktop machine  and it rairly runs a GUIm but when it does, its
iceWM... nice small and fast.

133 would make a nice little server for you though.


regards


Franki


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Axtell
Sent: Friday, 27 June 2003 9:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] Installation advice


I want to install Linux on an older laptop (Pentium 133Mhz), I had already
installed LM 7.2, but would like to have new versions of applications (like
Mozilla).  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what version of LM might
give me good performance on a Pentium 133Mh, 80 megs ram, (specifically what
kernel should I go with), but still makes it relatively easy to install a
newer browser, possibly gnumeric and abiword, without have to recompile
every
library because none of the newer apps is compatible with the older
libraries?  Or should I just bite the bullet and do everything the hard way,
compiling from source?

Thanks,

Dan



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Re: [expert] Monitor refresh rates

2003-06-27 Thread Olaf Marzocchi

Configure X from the console.

As root XFdrake
Does it asks for a refresh? I don't remember so, in fact having the proper 
refresh rate has always been a difficult task for me (I always had to 
manually edit the X config file).

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Re: [expert] Installation advice

2003-06-27 Thread richard bown
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 18:54, richard bown wrote:
> I recently put linux back on my laptop , which uses a P2 233, now I
> found that the version of XF84 supplied with MDK9.1 would not allow more
> than a 600x 400 resolution. MDK9.0 was OK
that should have been XF86-4.x.x, sri
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Re: [expert] Compiling kernel from .src.rpm

2003-06-27 Thread Jan Wilson
* Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030627 11:23]:
> On Thursday June 26 2003 06:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote:
> > rpm --rebuild --target athlon kernelwhatever.src.rpm
[snip]
>Still it's easier to just to rpm -Uvh the kernel-source rpm and 
> compile the kernel.
> -- 
> Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas

Thanks to Robert and Tom and others who responded.  I just did
rpm --rebuild kernel*.src.rpm

It took about 2 hours, but then I had all the RPMs (about 111 MB)
which we can distribute locally.  I installed the enterprise and
kernel-source and they are working fine, even with VMWare.

Thanks.

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[expert] SETI@home. MDK RPM's???

2003-06-27 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Anyone know where to get [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK RPM's?
Command line version.

Ralph


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Re: [expert] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

2003-06-27 Thread Richard -Gilligan- Uschold
I've noticed something similar on Mandrake 8.0.  The dialog fonts are 
too big, but only on awt components, the swing components seem to be 
fine. The font itself is actually larger, not just it's calculated 
height, which would just blank space above and/or below the text.

Oddly, with Java 1.4.1, only the odd point size fonts are too big, the 
even point size fonts are OK.  Java 1.4.2 beta, all the font sizes are 
too big!

I haven't really looked into it, I just assumed Java was hosed.

Gilligan

Guilherme Cirne wrote:

I sent the message below to the Newbie list but unfortunately nobody could 
help me. I apologise if anyone is reading it for the second time.

Hi all,

I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very hard 
to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I can send 
this to anyone who is willing to help.

Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font 
(Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all 
components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be.

I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida Sans 
and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the strange 
thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to Lucida Sans 
directly then the height is calculated correctly and the component looks 
like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans font. This can be 
seen clearly on the screenshot which I made.

This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have also 
tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 
beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1 specific issue. 
I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1 on different 
machines and the results are the same.

So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful. And 
don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much clearer 
to see the problem.

TIA,



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Re: [expert] URL menu pop up thingamajigger

2003-06-27 Thread J.P. Pasnak

Brian V Bonini said:

> That URL thing that pops up in the bottom right hand corner of the
> screen from time-to-time, think it's something to do with Konquerer. I
> knew how to get rid of it at one time but have since forgotten.
> Anyone...
>

Right-click on 'Klipper' and configure it as you wish

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You're sucking up my bandwidth.

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Re: [expert] hostname

2003-06-27 Thread Dave Sherman
richard bown wrote:
Hi 
up to a few days ago, if I opened a xterm my hostname was as I set it.
ie gb7tf
now and I cant find the file to change, its 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
all the files containing the hostname seem OK
Normally, the hostname is in /etc/sysconfig/network. However, it can be 
overridden by an entry in /etc/sysconfig/networking/ifcfg-*, or 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*. The dhcp client daemon can 
overwrite these files, if it receives a hostname from the dhcp server.

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Re: [expert] OT: Determining Memory Speed

2003-06-27 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 01.24 27/06/2003, you wrote:
Does anyone know of an easy way to work out the rating of
SDram  (ie. 66, 100, 133)?  Obviously, in cases where it isn't
actually written on the stick.
AFAIK, putting the module in a computer that clocks them faster than they 
can wont't break them, simply you'll have crashes and crashes :-))

Anyway, if they are not-so-old they should come with a SPD chip soldered on 
them, you should be able to read it with some app.
If you aren't, there is a Mac OS X (or 9?) app that is able to read and 
modify the content of that chip, you could find it and ask the author.
Or you can put the stick in a windows box and use SiSoft Sandra. Or you can 
run SiSoft Sandra inside Wine or VmWare.

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Re: [expert] OT: Determining Memory Speed

2003-06-27 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday June 26 2003 06:24 pm, Brian Schroeder wrote:
> Does anyone know of an easy way to work out the rating of
> SDram  (ie. 66, 100, 133)?  Obviously, in cases where it isn't
> actually written on the stick.

 66, 100, 133, etc. are just marketing labels. Ram is what it'll do. 
The more important specs are ns and cas rating, but quality ram 
will most often outperform it's specs. Generic ram often won't live 
up to it's label. 1000/mhz = ns. The most important bios timings 
are mhz, cas, and bank-interleaving.

 I've got a mix of pc100 (6 years old) and pc133 ram sticks, 
I've been usin all along at 135mhz, cas2, 4-bank interleaving. The 
pc100 was sold as 8ns, cas2, but I've used it for years at 1000/135 
= 7.4 ns   Set to cas3 it'll do 155mhz (6.45ns) and still pass an 
overnite run of memtest86 with -0- errors.  My daughter's computer 
is using 66mhz ram, so old it was manufactured before the marketing 
labels were even invented, reliably at 112 mhz, cas3.

'Course the ram quality is only half the story. Equally 
important is the motherboard quality, the caps it uses, and a 
little over spec IO voltage (+5 to 10%), and a decent high quality 
PSU with very steady output. Most quality mobo's furnish over spec 
IOv by default, usually 105%. Corsair XMS, probly te best ram 
currently available, won't run worth a damn on a PC Chips 
motherboard, with substandard caps, fed by a wobbly generic oem 
PSU.  
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[expert] URL menu pop up thingamajigger

2003-06-27 Thread Brian V Bonini
That URL thing that pops up in the bottom right hand corner of the
screen from time-to-time, think it's something to do with Konquerer. I
knew how to get rid of it at one time but have since forgotten.
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Re: [expert] Installation advice

2003-06-27 Thread richard bown
I recently put linux back on my laptop , which uses a P2 233, now I
found that the version of XF84 supplied with MDK9.1 would not allow more
than a 600x 400 resolution. MDK9.0 was OK

HTH
 Richard

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 17:07, Dave Sherman wrote:
> Daniel Axtell wrote:
> > I want to install Linux on an older laptop (Pentium 133Mhz), I had already 
> > installed LM 7.2, but would like to have new versions of applications (like 
> > Mozilla).  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what version of LM might 
> > give me good performance on a Pentium 133Mh, 80 megs ram, (specifically what 
> > kernel should I go with), but still makes it relatively easy to install a 
> > newer browser, possibly gnumeric and abiword, without have to recompile every 
> > library because none of the newer apps is compatible with the older 
> > libraries?  Or should I just bite the bullet and do everything the hard way, 
> > compiling from source?
> 
> On my old laptop, a 333MHz Celeron, I had good experience with Mandrake 
> 7.2 all the way through 8.1. I did upgrade the RAM, though, from 64MB to 
> 192MB.
> 
> Truthfully, though, I saw better performance using RedHat 7.x and 8.0. 
> Not sure why, but that's the way it is. In fact, I sold the laptop to a 
> friend, who is still happily running RH 8.0 on it.
> 
> I also always saw better performance under Gnome vs. KDE.
> 
> As to Mozilla specifically, it is a known resource pig. True, it has 
> improved immensely from the early betas and releases candidates, but it 
> is still a monster for memory. I always had better performance using 
> Galeon under Gnome, with either Mandrake or RedHat.
> 
> In spite of my above comments, I now use Mandrake 9.1, KDE and Mozilla, 
> but on a much faster laptop :-)
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[expert] pioneer dvr-105 issues

2003-06-27 Thread Azrael
Just bought and installed a pioneer dvr-105 (dvd-r/rw burner).
I've installed it as /dev/hdc.

Two issues:

1)

In xcdroast it only appears as an atapi device, rather than available as
emulated scsi, unlike my plextor cdrw which appears as both.

I tried to remedy this with adding 'hdc=ide-scsi' to the append line in
/etc/lilo.conf but no change. Am I supposed to edit /etc/modules.conf ?
This is what I already have in modules.conf:

  probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi ataraid
  probeall usb-interface usb-uhci
  alias eth0 eepro100
  above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
  alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1
  options bttv radio=0 card=9 gbuffers=4

2)

The second problem is actually using the dvd burner.
I believe cdrecord-2.01-0.a16.1mdk supports dvd burning, and I am using
it. But xcdroast fails to either burn anything onto a dvd-rw, or to
blank it. No way I am making dvd-r coasters until I am sure it works, at
which point I hope not to make coasters anyway.

Advice/assistance very much welcomed

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Re: [expert] SETI@home. MDK RPM's???

2003-06-27 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:07:51 -0400
Ralph Crongeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone know where to get [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK RPM's?
 
No such critter.

It is avaiable from the Seti site Only, and only as a tar.gz


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Re: [expert] Get your burners warmed up folks

2003-06-27 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 09.41 25/06/2003, you wrote:
> What I'm hoping is...
>
> 1.  No new installer
Will not be, it was the jump to Gtk2 what caused the new installer
So it's GTK2 fault to slow down so much it? I think it's too slow to be 
acceptable.
I also hope to see a *faster* Mandrake Control Center, it takes ages to 
load every module. In 9.0 it was much faster (almost no delay). Cel400.

I'd also like to have multiple profiles in the network config tool). It's a 
great feature, really.

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Re: [expert] Compiling kernel from .src.rpm

2003-06-27 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday June 26 2003 06:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote:
> rpm --rebuild --target athlon kernelwhatever.src.rpm
>
>
> This will take up to 3 hours to buid all versions of the kernel
> (the default action)- some people do a procedure to edit the srpm
> makefile to only build the type kernel they need, but it's more
> complicated.

   Not really, somethin like,
rpm --rebuild --with up --without smp --without secure --without
enterprise --without BOOT --without minimal --without mydsdt 
--without debug --without doc --with source --target athlon 
kernelwhatever.src.rpm

   Still it's easier to just to rpm -Uvh the kernel-source rpm and 
compile the kernel.
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[expert] hostname

2003-06-27 Thread richard bown
Hi 
up to a few days ago, if I opened a xterm my hostname was as I set it.
ie gb7tf
now and I cant find the file to change, its 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
all the files containing the hostname seem OK
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Re: [expert] Installation advice

2003-06-27 Thread Dave Sherman
Daniel Axtell wrote:
I want to install Linux on an older laptop (Pentium 133Mhz), I had already 
installed LM 7.2, but would like to have new versions of applications (like 
Mozilla).  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what version of LM might 
give me good performance on a Pentium 133Mh, 80 megs ram, (specifically what 
kernel should I go with), but still makes it relatively easy to install a 
newer browser, possibly gnumeric and abiword, without have to recompile every 
library because none of the newer apps is compatible with the older 
libraries?  Or should I just bite the bullet and do everything the hard way, 
compiling from source?
On my old laptop, a 333MHz Celeron, I had good experience with Mandrake 
7.2 all the way through 8.1. I did upgrade the RAM, though, from 64MB to 
192MB.

Truthfully, though, I saw better performance using RedHat 7.x and 8.0. 
Not sure why, but that's the way it is. In fact, I sold the laptop to a 
friend, who is still happily running RH 8.0 on it.

I also always saw better performance under Gnome vs. KDE.

As to Mozilla specifically, it is a known resource pig. True, it has 
improved immensely from the early betas and releases candidates, but it 
is still a monster for memory. I always had better performance using 
Galeon under Gnome, with either Mandrake or RedHat.

In spite of my above comments, I now use Mandrake 9.1, KDE and Mozilla, 
but on a much faster laptop :-)

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RE: [expert] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

2003-06-27 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Hi,

I use JBuilder on Linux with Sun's j2sdk1.4.1_02 all the time with no
problem. Go ahead and send me the screenshot and I'll see if anything jumps
out at me...

David

-Original Message-
From: Guilherme Cirne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Linux - Expert
Subject: [expert] Java and font problem on ML 9.1


I sent the message below to the Newbie list but unfortunately nobody could 
help me. I apologise if anyone is reading it for the second time.

Hi all,

I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very hard 
to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I can send 
this to anyone who is willing to help.

Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font 
(Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all 
components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be.

I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida Sans 
and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the strange 
thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to Lucida Sans 
directly then the height is calculated correctly and the component looks 
like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans font. This can be 
seen clearly on the screenshot which I made.

This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have also 
tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 
beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1 specific issue. 
I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1 on different 
machines and the results are the same.

So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful. And 
don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much clearer 
to see the problem.

TIA,

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[expert] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

2003-06-27 Thread Guilherme Cirne
I sent the message below to the Newbie list but unfortunately nobody could 
help me. I apologise if anyone is reading it for the second time.

Hi all,

I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very hard 
to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I can send 
this to anyone who is willing to help.

Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font 
(Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all 
components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be.

I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida Sans 
and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the strange 
thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to Lucida Sans 
directly then the height is calculated correctly and the component looks 
like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans font. This can be 
seen clearly on the screenshot which I made.

This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have also 
tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 
beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1 specific issue. 
I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1 on different 
machines and the results are the same.

So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful. And 
don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much clearer 
to see the problem.

TIA,

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[expert] Installation advice

2003-06-27 Thread Daniel Axtell
I want to install Linux on an older laptop (Pentium 133Mhz), I had already 
installed LM 7.2, but would like to have new versions of applications (like 
Mozilla).  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what version of LM might 
give me good performance on a Pentium 133Mh, 80 megs ram, (specifically what 
kernel should I go with), but still makes it relatively easy to install a 
newer browser, possibly gnumeric and abiword, without have to recompile every 
library because none of the newer apps is compatible with the older 
libraries?  Or should I just bite the bullet and do everything the hard way, 
compiling from source?

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [expert] Webcam problems

2003-06-27 Thread Norman
On Thursday 26 Jun 2003 6:02 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Norman,
>
> I already answered you in your original thread. Look at the
> link that I give you. Don't open more threads. I beleive it
> will solve your problem.
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian

Sorry but I didn't think my first message had gone out.
I looked into your suggetion but I could only find the
Mandrake source for kernel 2.4.18 not 2.4.21
Also the path to these sources was nothing like in the example.
most of the sub-directorites didn't exist anyway.
I appreciate this is not your fault and thank you anyway.
I will try to get the correct kernel source and set up the 
Makefile to use the ones I find and then take it from there.
Norman

> - Original Message -
> From: "Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:51 AM
> Subject: [expert] Webcam problems
>
> > Hi,
> > Can anyone help please?
> >
> > I have bought a Creative WebCam Model PD1001C
> > and am trying to get it to work.
> > When I plug it in to the USB port Gnomemeeting starts up but
> > I cannot get any video stream.
> >
> > I am running Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk
> > Gnomemeeting 0.96.1
> >
> > thanks,
> > Norman
>
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Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.0 ignoring the mouse

2003-06-27 Thread Rick -Gilligan- Uschold
Thanks, that did it! It's hard to remember these command line commands when
you never use them!

Gilligan

James Sparenberg wrote:

> On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 15:27, Richard -Gilligan- Uschold wrote:
> > I have been running Mandrake 8.0 for a couple of years, and today, it
> > stoped recognizing the mouse. This is a multi-boot machine, and the
> > mouse still works on Mandrake 7.0 and Windows 98, on the same machine.
> >
> >  Removed ...

>
> been a while since I've been in 8.0  but instead of going into graphical
> mode.  Try this.
>
> ctrl-alt-f1
>
> login as root and then run drakxconf This is an ncures based tool that
> will allow you to configure your mouse again.  8.0 might have had
> mousedrake but I'm not sure.. sorry don't have an 8.0 box around to
> double check.
>
> James
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [expert] Postfix Relay question...

2003-06-27 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:10:04 -0400 Ralph Crongeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> OK, thanks to everyone's help it looks like I got my MTA configured
> right now.
> 
> How can I allow a single client (IP address) besids the "$mynetworks = 
> 111.222.333.0/24, 222.333.444.0/24" variable or can I do it with that 
> variable like
> "$mynetworks = 111.222.333.0/24, 222.333.444.0/24, 333.444.555.10/24".
> Is that possable?

Should be with 333.444.555.10/32 -- watch how you use the netmask...  what
yours says is "mask the incoming address to 24 bits (333.444.555.0 - yucky
example addy) then match it to 333.444.555.10 which would alwasys fail).

> What is the best solution for this??

If this is for remote access, you might want to consider pop-before-smtp
-- several issues burned me in the early days; documented here:
http://pfortin.com/Linux/PostFix
http://pfortin.com/Linux/PostFix/pop-before-smtp

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Re: [expert] Jims 9.2 request mantra

2003-06-27 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
** Joeb (Freitag, 27. Juni 2003 13:40)
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:00:40 -0700
>
> Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Searchable help files... Searchable help files... Searchable help
> > files... Searchable help files... Searchable help files...
> > ;-)
>
> I search through them all the time, usually beginning at the top and
> scrolling all the way through!  What I would like is an automatic
> search feature!  8)

Makes me wonder what you use for reading help files. In all helpers I 
know there is a search feature, be it a text file or a html or even a 
man file.

Maybe I misunderstand what you are looking for but I do a lot of 
searching in help files using the search features of the app I read the 
help file with.

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Re: [expert] Jims 9.2 request mantra

2003-06-27 Thread Joeb
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:00:40 -0700
Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Searchable help files... Searchable help files... Searchable help 
> files... Searchable help files... Searchable help files...
> ;-)
> 
> 

I search through them all the time, usually beginning at the top and scrolling all the 
way through!  What I would like is an automatic search feature!  8)

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Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.

2003-06-27 Thread Joeb
Even though you meant to send this off list, would you mind posting the response (or 
even the thread)?  I'm very interested in this as it is my understanding that it is 
one of main ways that Redhat uses to increase performance for desktop use.

Joeb


On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:32:48 -0400
Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry- this was meant to be sent to directly Con Kolivas- Apparently, I messed 
> up and it somehow appeared on the expert list, addressed to myself- still 
> can't figure that one out.
> 
> Robert C.
> 
> 
> On Thursday 26 June 2003 19:51, you wrote:
> > Con,
> > Tried the new june23 full patch, but couldn't get past make modules. I then
> > edited my .config file some, and did the base patch, plus the performance
> > patches, and supermount, all individually, and that worked out great. Must
> > have been some conflict caused by the old .config.
> >
> > Anyway, my question is about setting the Variable Hz- do you mean when I do
> > xconfig, I should change the setting in General setup to a higher value,
> > and see if performance is improved? Here's my present value, that
> > apparently is the default. Or, is that what we're even talking about? I'm
> > not sure I understand this, due to lack of knowledge.
> >
> > # General setup
> > #
> > CONFIG_HZ=200
> >
> > On your webpage I read:
> >
> > Is 1000Hz more overhead than 100Hz? Yes definitely, but not a great deal.
> > If you change the Hz, use a multiple of 100. There really is no point going
> > above 1000 Hz.
> >
> > I assume this means that if I'm correct and you are referring to that line
> > in xconfig, I can experiment. Am I also correct in that I need your patch
> > in order to experiment with this value? Or, am I totally misunderstanding
> > all of the above, and the ck3 patches already set some other value to
> > 1000Mhz that I'm confusing with the line in the kernel .config file?
> >
> > Thanks for the great patches- I'm now using 2.4.21 with CK patches
> > exclusively on MDK 9.1- nothing works better for my desktop box.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Robert Crawford
> 
> 
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[expert] Serial ATA SiI6112 freezes

2003-06-27 Thread Karl Mitchell
Hi,

I've recently upgraded to an Abit nforce2 NF7-S (v2.0) motherboard, 
running serial ATA drives (Maxtor 120GB & WD Raptor 36GB) via the 
onboard SiI6112 controller. I got the usual SATA problems, i.e. DMA 
wasn't set correctly, but these were corrected using:

echo max_kb_per_request:15 > /proc/ide/hde/settings
hdparm -d1 -X66 /dev/hde 

early on in rc.sysinit file (now I get 55 MBytes/sec!).

However, in addition to these, every so often I get a full system lock 
up, apparently as a result of large scale SATA drive access (usually 
after 10s of MBs to GBs of data transfer). I have tried installing 
Mandrake on my old parallel ATA RAID 5 system (detected as SCSI), and 
even though it does reduce the number of crashes, I still get a crash 
once in a while as I'm using the SATA drives.

I'm guessing it's a kernel issue, relating to the SATA drivers. Does 
anyone have a fix?

Cheers,

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Re: [expert] Jims 9.2 request mantra

2003-06-27 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 27 June 2003 01:00 am, Jim C wrote:
> Searchable help files... Searchable help files... Searchable help
> files... Searchable help files... Searchable help files...
> ;-)

post it on cooker... post it on cooker... post it on cooker... post it on 
cooker... post it on cooker... post it on cooker...  :-)
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Re: [expert] Block MSN Messenger

2003-06-27 Thread Damian Gatabria
El jue, 26 de 06 de 2003 a las 18:48, Carlos Delzo escribió:
> Anyone know block the MSN Messenger with Squid or Bastille?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Carlos Delzo 
> Networking Administrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.doerun.com.pe
> 
> 

why not block all connections going to messenger.microsoft.com?
..might work..

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d messenger.microsoft.com -j DROP

HTH

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.0 ignoring the mouse

2003-06-27 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 15:27, Richard -Gilligan- Uschold wrote:
> I have been running Mandrake 8.0 for a couple of years, and today, it 
> stoped recognizing the mouse. This is a multi-boot machine, and the 
> mouse still works on Mandrake 7.0 and Windows 98, on the same machine.
> 
> The first symptomes of the problem were during a reboot, the text mode 
> HardDrake came up saying it found a mouse. I configured it for Mouse 
> Systems Mouse, which is what I have.
> 
> The mouse is connected to serial port 1.
> 
> 1)  Is there a set of keyboard commands to move the mouse pointer, and 
> click the mouse buttons on KDE?
> 
> 2) what files need to be set to what, to get the mouse working again?
> 
> 
> I can access the files via the Mandrake 7.0 opartition, or in text only 
> mode.
> 
> On Mandrake 7.0 partition, /etc/sysconfig/mouse is:
> 
> MOUSETYPE=MouseSystems
> XMOUSETYPE=MouseSystems
> FULLNAME="Mouse Systems (serial)"
> XEMU3=yes
> -
> also, /dev/mouse -> ttyS0
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On the Mandrake 8.0 partition, /etc/sysconfig/mouse is:
> --
> MOUSETYPE=MouseSystems
> XMOUSETYPE=MouseSystems
> FULLNAME="serial|Mouse Systems"
> XEMU3=yes
> WHEEL=no
> device=ttyS0
> --
> 
> Thanks

been a while since I've been in 8.0  but instead of going into graphical
mode.  Try this.

ctrl-alt-f1

login as root and then run drakxconf This is an ncures based tool that
will allow you to configure your mouse again.  8.0 might have had
mousedrake but I'm not sure.. sorry don't have an 8.0 box around to
double check.

James

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Re: [expert] Compiling kernel from .src.rpm

2003-06-27 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 09:32, Jan Wilson wrote:
> OK, I've struggled with this for a couple of hours while trying to
> coordinate the Linux Kernel howto, several READMEs, etc.  I have
> previously compiled kernels from the .src.rpm, and I remember it being
> surprisingly easy, if you just want to compile all 5 or so sets of
> kernel binaries.
> 
> I downloaded kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm from sec.sup.org and
> tried to install the source with rpm -ivh.  It seems to dump several
> files into /usr/src/RPMS/SOURCES:
> 
> linux.2.4.20.tar.bz2
> linux.2.4.21-pre4q18.tar.bz2
> linux-mdkconfig.h
> linux-merge-config.awk
> linux-merge-modules.awk
> patch-2.4.21-pre4.bz2
> README.kernel-sources
> README.Mandrake
> 
> None of this matches any of the howtos I have seen.  Any suggestions?
> Oh, I avoid urpmi like the plague ... it really is NOT good for an
> expensive dial-up connection, which is why I wanted to download the
> source RPM and build the various kernels.


rpm --rebuild kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm  

would be the easiest method...  At the end it will tell you where it put
all of the kernels (/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/[your archs]  

James

> 
> Thanks.


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