Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 16:00, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:29 am, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. A bug report probably will get ignored because I don't think there is anybody really maintaining this package for Mandrake since it was moved to contrib, that is, unless you'd like to volunteer. Contrib packages are packaged by volunteers and contributed. They are not maintained by MandrakeSoft, so a bug report is useless unless there is somebody that is going to fix linuxconf to work with Mandrake. I'd also like to point out that it was dropped for a good reason, which is that it is Evil Incarnate(TM). The problem with Linuxconf is that it maintains its own config and pushes those to the actual config when it gets around to it. This means you can make changes to the real config files which will be ignored and clobbered by the next Linuxconf run. If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a learning system I would ever recommend. Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob Ok to divide the world in half. If you are at runlevel 3 (no dm or WM) and run mpg123 does it look up there as well? If you run gpm you can test the mouse as well. If it does lock up then we know it's not just a conflict between the WM and the sound system. If it doesn't that changes the avenue of attack. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 00:22, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob Ok to divide the world in half. If you are at runlevel 3 (no dm or WM) and run mpg123 does it look up there as well? If you run gpm you can test the mouse as well. If it does lock up then we know it's not just a conflict between the WM and the sound system. If it doesn't that changes the avenue of attack. James K may be barking up the wrong tree here. But a thread on pclinuxonline and in the errata for 9.2 yeilds this. quote Error scenario: When enabling ACPI in the kernel (by removing acpi=ht from the kernel boot options), the system freezes very early Why: There seems to be a bad interaction with Local APIC, which is enabled by default in the kernel. This can be seen by adding vga=0 to try to see the last kernel message before it locks solid (a message like Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found). This seems to happen with certain HP laptops. Other reports also indicate that if you remove AC power from a laptop (ie. Dell latitude C640; possibly others) it will freeze requiring a power off. (re: Bugzilla #5821) Solution: Add nolapic to the kernel boot options to resolve both issues. /quote the pclinuxonline thread is here. http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Forumsfile=viewtopictopic=2382forum=19 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 06:47, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:24 am, Timothy Brown wrote: After you get it started now go to your browser and go to https://localhost:1 make sur you have https Right, I know how to access it manually. I was just wondering if I missed a K-menu entry to start a browser with that URL. No big deal if there isn't - I can add one or use a bookmark. I suppose you could put a icon on the desktop to go to URL but since it isn't an application but rather a web application and it is host/ip dependent it's more hassle and more likely to break things than to enable them. Although there are cheats and shortcuts, as soon as you do it and set it up to open on Konqueror people will be complaining that they want firebird mozilla or some other browser. IMHO it's a a conflict avoidance tactic. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 21:06, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 11:48 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: OK, my #1 problem with running Linux is dealing with upgrades. With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake upgrade worked pretty well, seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving alone the stuff that didn't. Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally moved my /home to a new partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing in clean partitions. But what was left over was uploading all the little programs I like, say bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and nuking all the stuff I don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then configuring a new hosts file, and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I want them. So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know, cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer. I upgraded my desktop machine using urpmi against a local copy of the dist tree. It went very smoothly and I really had no problems. First thing I did was urpmi itself 'urpmi urpmi', then the kernel 'urpmi kernel' then reboot, then everything else using the --auto-select switch, 'urpmi --auto-select'. Actually for me the upgrade for 9.1 to 9.2 of so far 4 boxes was the only time I've ever had a successful upgrade, on any Linux. I did what was suggested above plus a bit more. The details from my efforts + a number of others have been combined into the TWiki http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UrpmiUpgrade Know issues with the 9.1 to 9.0 path are here as well, hopefully everyone who contributed to this one was/is thorough. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Gnome and a dialer app?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:48, anton wrote: I'm using kppp in Gnome. It takes an age to start, and won't minimise into the bottom panel (or if it can then I'd like to know how...), but can't see anything else even remotely as good. I think my experiment with gnome will probably end quite soon... Anton Anton. Don't use dialup ATT myself but I think the rpm you need is called gpppwrap just do urpmi gpppwrap and try it out. James Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't generally use gnome (and haven't tried it for at least 6 months or more). Last evening, in trying to locate where the problem resided with regards to my desktop and sound (or lack thereof) I started up Gnome 2.4 for the first time. Pretty nice actually. I was pleasantly suprised. What I didn't find, however, was a dialer app like kppp. I would swear that I installed all the gnome stuff when I installed 9.2 but perhaps I missed something? Is there not a dedicated gnome dialer? What's its name? praedor - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uQphaKr9sJYeTxgRAkdZAJ4n1Bc8vNLugfnt/If37abQ+Ye3swCfWfIF tCzIb0mjlNh+2bgDewBXGtA= =S0h3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:18, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:11, Jack Coates wrote: Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... LOL, I didn't mean anything by it, I've heard that too and wondered what the basis was :) If I do a cat on /proc/meminfo total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 390709248 371380224 193290240 13205504 181313536 Swap: 1230839808 48295936 1182543872 MemTotal: 381552 kB MemFree: 18876 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 12896 kB Cached: 172232 kB SwapCached: 4832 kB Active: 147668 kB Inactive: 190916 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 381552 kB LowFree: 18876 kB SwapTotal: 1201992 kB SwapFree: 1154828 kB And the only thing beyond kde open is evolution. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 03:32, Angelo Naselli wrote: So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. No problem. You might try doing hdparm -m 32 to see if it speeds up disk access. But the reference to PIO mode would only affect you directly if you had some really old HDD's or CD drives on the box. The PIO IDE bus and the UDMA IDE bus are different (Although I don't have all of the details on the difference.) and you use one but not the other. james --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 13:12, Angelo Naselli wrote: Any idea? why 16 bit ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# /sbin/hdparm -v /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) This is what I think you are refering to. from the man page. -m Get/set sector count for multiple sector I/O on the drive. A setting of 0 disables this feature. Multiple sector mode (aka IDE Block Mode), is a feature of most modern IDE hard drives, permitting the transfer of multiple sectors per I/O interrupt, rather than the usual one sector per interrupt. When this feature is enabled, it typically reduces operating system overhead for disk I/O by 30-50%. On many systems, it also provides increased data throughput of anywhere from 5% to 50%. Some drives, however (most notably the WD Caviar series), seem to run slower withmultiple mode enabled. Your mileage may vary. Most drives support the minimum settings of 2, 4, 8, or 16 (sectors). Larger settings may also be possible, depending on the drive. A setting of 16 or 32 seems optimal on many systems. Western Digital recommends lower settings of 4 to 8 on many of their drives, due tiny (32kB) drive buffers and non-optimized buffering algorithms. The -i flag can be used to find the maximum setting supported by an installed drive (look for MaxMultSect in the output). Some drives claim to support multiple mode, but lose data at some settings. Under rare circumstances, such failures can result in massive filesystem corruption. The 16 bit setting is a least common denominator. A good number of drives out there either can't do or if they do, have no gain going to 32 bit. 32 bit also increases the chance of data corruption on drives that are dicey. So MDK and others pic the method least likely to cause problems. 16bit. James IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 9964/255/63, sectors = 160086528, start = 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# dmesg [...] Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_I RQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:02.5 SIS5513: chipset revision 208 SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later SIS5513: SiS735 ATA 100 (2nd gen) controller ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive blk: queue c0181bc0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x) hdc: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616Q, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area = 1 hda: 160086528 sectors (81964 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=9964/255/63, UDMA(33) Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p5 p6 p7 [...] __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 05:10, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:41, Stew Benedict wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. Sorry...Missunderstanding...My BAD BAD English... In 9.1 it is 3.3.2 In 9.2 it is 3.3.1 Downgraded? Jarmo Jarmo, My 9.1 is at 3.2.2 dunno where you got the upgrade but the stock is 3.2.2 James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:23, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 16:01, Jarmo wrote: The point why I started to look,was that I can't get lm-sensors 2.8.0 compiled...Yes I know there is rpm...But I have so exotic mb... Asrock K7S8X with sis cipset,exept sensors are winbonds... No worry anymore.Downloaded lm-sensors 2.8.1 as well as i2c-2.8.1 and got them working... Again sorry for bothering... Jarmo No bother... btw I've got the stdio.h from package gcc-3.2.2 hmmm curiouser and curiouser. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 12:02, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 03:32, Angelo Naselli wrote: So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. No problem. You might try doing hdparm -m 32 to see if it speeds up disk access. But the reference to PIO mode would only affect you directly if you had some really old HDD's or CD drives on the box. The PIO IDE bus and the UDMA IDE bus are different (Although I don't have all of the details on the difference.) and you use one but not the other. Actually the bus is the same, it's only the data flow protocol on the bus that changes... True enough I knew what I meant ... not what I said. *grin* running the bus in pio mode means that your cpu workload will get high since it has to be in charge of moving all the data to and from ram... but when the bus is running dma, the data from the hdd to ram will bypass your cpu (and leave it free for other work) and rely an the dma controller to make sure the data gets to/from ram. going from dma to udma adds crc32 checking to the transfers, thus enabling higher transfer speeds without transfer errors ... So, in short... to gain full speed from a pio hdd, your cpu will run with 60-99% workload, whereas running udma will keep it around 3-5% ( of course your might see different values, but this was only a generic example) -- Regards Thomas __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi questions
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 12:07, Jason Williams wrote:
Last question.
Is there a way to get a package description of the available packages
through urpmi?
I swear I was able to do so, but dont recall how to do it now. :/
urpmi urpmc and then use it to find what's available. (Only in 9.2 att
but the src rpm does build on 9.1)
On a side note, anyone have any thoughts on whether 9.1 or 9.2 is better
suited for production right now?
Jason
At 08:37 AM 11/14/2003 -0600, you wrote:
On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:27 pm, Vox wrote:
On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:
Is there a way to list the packages that are available to
download?
urpmq --list will give you a list of all available
packages, without versions. urpmq --fuzzy samba will give you
all packages that have samba in the name or description. I
recommend reading the man pages for all the urpm* commands.
You can also install urpmc ('urpmi urpmc'). Then after you
update your sources, simply typing 'urpmc' will list all the
available updates (with version numbers) from all sources. EG,
tom # urpmc
club uses a synthesis file. Cannot output changelog.
Will list package names only. Reconfigure the medium to use
a hdlist file to get a changelog.
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk - kernel-source-2.4.22-25mdk
Even ones you may have in your /etc/urpmi/skip.list (I have
kernel-source in my skiplist). Suggestion, use
'synthesis.hdlist's for your sources, otherwise the list will
also include changelog, and could be very long. I get Cannot
output changelog. because I only use synthesis.hdlist's.
--
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Re: [expert] Re: Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 08:53, Björn Lundin wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: cut In fact I'm so used to reiserfs being mounted notail,noatime that like a fool I didn't even ask Bjorn about it. Looking at it now, I think diskdrake should suggest noatime as default when writing to fstab, for resiserfs? As I recall, I did not choose anything when setting the machine up, I just picked reiser, and was satisfied with the default values. But again, it's not a big issue, to me at least, just annoying. /Björn It really should have you are right. It's curious (at least to me) that it didn't default to this. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG Drive and VMWare
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 08:18, Eric Huff wrote: $ uptime 2:44pm up 154 days, 2:54, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.05, 0.02 This is from a (Mdk 8.2) box thats already hit the 497 day Jiffie wrap limit... Wat's that? Older Linux's have been recently discovered to count uptime to 497 days then using a new form of math 497 + 1 = 0 . I'm not sure but I think it has something to do with a Honeywell emulation layer. (For those who don't know Honeywell(IFRC) mainframes had both -0 and +0, and although -0 = +0, (0-1) != (-0+1) go figure) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Disapearing menu's
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 09:29, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: I don't see the update yet on my mirror. I'll let you know what happens after I do Just got a message from Vincent (after I asked him) The iso's and the updates went out at the same time and seem to be choking the update of files due to heavy download traffic. He asks that we be patient. *grin*. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:58 PM To: Expert List Subject: Re: [expert] Disapearing menu's On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:07, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 04:34, James Sparenberg wrote: All, Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde. Would anyone who can check, test and let me know? James Update, Per my question they are now in Cooker and Vincent is porting the patch to 9.2 as we speak. I'll keep ya'll posted. James Just got word that the fix is in updates Would those who have been fighting this please check and let me know the results? The problem seems to have been in kde-libs. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 05:39, Björn Lundin wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: Well, that concludes that Kde really is the culprit, doesn't it. But what in Kde? /Björn err... puncuation would help let me try again. What I see that you use that I don't are, iptables, shorewall, netfs nfs and lisa, linuxconf httpd and atd. I've got nessusd smartd and win4lin, that you don't have. I'm suspicious that Lisa is what is polling your HDD but not sure. In my case as well, dm is the only diff between rl 3 and 5. My initial reaction would be, turn off (if possible) the ones you have that I don't, one at a time, then if it doesn't stop the polling, turn it back on and go to the next one. Hmm, I removed the ones you don't have, except shorewall, since I'm directly connected to the internet. Wouldn't want to be without it... I did shut it off for a minute though, but I still got disc activity every 6 seconds! I even tried the classical M$ trick (reboot) but still no luck, but I now finally got rid of some services I don't need, like nfs... I also went in to Kde's control center and played with Compoments|Servicemanager and shut everyting I could off, like KWrite deamon, and Mount watcher, essentailly everything I could find, but still no luck Everything associated with Lisa is also turned off, on the client side. The KAlarm deamon looked suspicouis, but killing it made no difference... Starting to kill my processes one by one, starting with 'kded'. Got lucky, this is the one. Now I can google it, and found: kded continually accesses the disk about once per second, and as a result, even when I'm not doing anything so to speak on my computer, my hard drive will never spin down. I had a similar effect some time ago on a SuSE box. In my case I could make that repeating disk access to stop by mounting that specific *reiserfs* partition with the 'noatime' option. Give this a try... and reboot cries of happiness And YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES /cries of happiness That did it :) As for the 9.1 + texstar combo. Yes love it. That's why my laptop won't be in a hurry to move to 9.2. I'm thinking that kernel 2.6 would make me upgrade, so I'll wait for a stable release that won't make me recompile the kernel. Every time I tried, I always end up with a new install :( I'm always doing something wrong! Thanks for your patience, all /Björn Cool! I may not have had an answer but I hope I helped in finding it. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 09:18, Eric Huff wrote: I had a similar effect some time ago on a SuSE box. In my case I could make that repeating disk access to stop by mounting that specific *reiserfs* partition with the 'noatime' option. Is there any problem with setting the fs to noatime? It keeps the file access time from being updated. Do any programs rely on that? I'll give this a try, too, i think. eric Eric from what I've seen and also from Hans' own mouth with the current version of Rieserfs it's the preferred method. Where as not using this is intended to give a faster access time you really have to play around tuning the fs to keep from going nuts. Hans said at a recent lug where he spoke that the next version should do this much more elegantly (I took this to mean it wouldn't drive people nuts.) In fact I'm so used to reiserfs being mounted notail,noatime that like a fool I didn't even ask Bjorn about it. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing fronts from Qt3
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 17:30, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 10:06 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Glenn Could I be so bold as to trouble you to do a cut and past of the above e-mail into a bug report? I'm quite sure you aren't alone with your problem. Thanks. James http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com I'm ahead of you. Please see http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6367 I did just notice one thing. The bug report is there in cooker. But the link I gave is for the bug reporting system for the current version. They are two different products/locations. I guess this one actually should go in both, given the nature of the beast. Thanks. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG Drive and VMWare
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 09:20, Kwan Lowe wrote: On Saturday 15 Nov 2003 2:57 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote: Any idea if the LG Firmware bug will bite if the Mandrake 9.2 install is in a virtual VMware machine? Sorry for the delay in answering - I've been away. I don't know the answer, but I wouldn't take the risk. LG now have a firmware update available on their site. Install that first and you should be OK. HTH Given that VMWare allows direct hardware access I would go with Anne 216 days is a lot to lose yes, but your going to lose it anyway when you consider that you'll have to replace the drive. Console yourself in this one. The current record is 4.6 years and climbing. (A FreeBSD box.) So although it's nice. We pale in comparison. (I just took down one with 192 days uptime. Kernel upgrade.) James Thanks, Anne. I bit the bullet and downed the host machine shortly afterwards. It was one of those laziness things :D Plus I had to walk someone through the process without any idea of what the firmwate update screen read... Then there was the 216 day uptime :( On a side note, the setup on this remote site is pretty interesting. The DNS and web server run completely inside a VMWare session. Complete system backups are as simple as copying a file. Testing is a breeze since I can test identical systems without bringing the main one down. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /etc/hosts and dns - THANK YOU
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 09:07, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 16 Nov 2003 1:46 am, Greg Meyer wrote: Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction, For posterity's sake here is what I have done. Greg, I would say that should *definitely* be on the TWiki - would you oblige? Anne Greg, When you get it up let me know. For 9.1 (due to some differences in that it doesn't do profiles as well.) I've another system I use for the 4 locations my laptop goes regularly. Basically I have 4 ifcfg's in a holding directory and just switch one for the other and restart pcmcia. (all wireless connections with different WEP keys.) I'll post a neutered version of mine along with yours so that they are on the same page. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 15:55, Rob Blomquist wrote: OK, I now have 9.2 installed on my laptop via FTP. It was about a 4 hour experience for me. Draksound is not able to detect the ISA card, and is not useful for this card. Everything is working pretty well, except for the sound, it has a Crystal 4237B, which is found on the ISA bus, and I am able to mess with it using the CS423x driver in sndconfig, but I have not gotten any sound from it yet. Apprently it can emulate a Soundblaster, AdLib or WSS card, but using the SB driver crashes the machine so that the only way out is to crash the system. The AdLib driver crashes sndconfig. The WSS driver also locks up the system like the SB. Any ideas or experiences configuring the sound on this machine. My introduction to this machine was from the Linux Laptops website, and my life is not as simple. Rob Rob draksound AFAIK is only effective on PCI type cards. Since your is ISA, using the old standby of sndconfig (just urpmi sndconfig) This should bring you online no sweat. One note. You have to run it from a regular tty not a konsole or xterm window for it to work right. I've used this chipset in the past and it works well, sndconfig has it in it's database and can get you up. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Re: Noise
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:38, Björn Lundin wrote: I have had the same thing at times. There was a thread on newbie awhile back. There was talk of it being fam related, and also just reiser doing it's job. See if you can find it in the archives: i posted the ?, stephen kuhn and others had some thoughts. I found the thread, and it states that it is reiser that checks its journalfiles, but I have a hard time to belive that, when I notice that it stop in runlevel 3. That would then mean that I don't have journaling when I don't have a GUI. I think it's Kde related, but I give up. In the end i decided nt to worry about it... well, it doesn't worry me, it's just annoying :) Thanks for trying. I'll keep an eye on your harddrive - top - thread, it would be nice to have a utility like that. /Björn The questions I would have (Yeah I know more questions no answers *grin* ) are 1. Does this happen when you log into other WM's like Ice or Gnome etc. This will narrow the problem down to something kde related or not. dividing the world in half. 2. Could you do an ls of /etc/rc.d/rc5.d and post that. It will tell us what gets started just for runlevel 5 for sure. I'm running the same setup as you 9.1 + kde3.1.4 from Texstar + reiserfs and don't have this condition. So something you have that I don't is doing it. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Re: Re: Noise
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 12:32, Björn Lundin wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: well, it doesn't worry me, it's just annoying :) Thanks for trying. I'll keep an eye on your harddrive - top - thread, it would be nice to have a utility like that. /Björn The questions I would have (Yeah I know more questions no answers *grin* ) are 1. Does this happen when you log into other WM's like Ice or Gnome etc. This will narrow the problem down to something kde related or not. dividing the world in half. Well, I like Kde so much, I don't have any other wm installed. I'll try installing blackbox or fluxbox... later Now, when I've installed Fluxbox, I notice NO disk activity. (Writing this in Fluxbox, I like the silence, but it's a bit sparse) 2. Could you do an ls of /etc/rc.d/rc5.d and post that. It will tell us what gets started just for runlevel 5 for sure. Won't do a whole lot of difference now, but here goes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] bnl]$ ls /etc/rc5.d/ S03iptables@S12syslog@ S25netfs@ S44acpid@ S65dhcrelay@ S90webmin@ S04acpi@S13slpd@ S25shorewall@ S55sshd@S75keytable@ S92lisa@ S05harddrake@ S14nfslock@ S26apmd@ S56xinetd@ S80spamassassin@ S98postgresql@ S05lm_sensors@ S18sound@S30dm@ S60cups@S85httpd@ S99devfsd@ S10network@ S20random@ S40atd@S60nfs@ S85numlock@ S99linuxconf@ S11portmap@ S20xfs@ S40saslauthd@ S65dhcpd@ S90crond@ S99local@ In addition, a comparison with chkconfig --list reveals that the only service thats on in runlevel 5, and not in runlevel 3 is dm (diplaymanager?) which makes sense. I'm running the same setup as you 9.1 + kde3.1.4 from Texstar + reiserfs and don't have this condition. So something you have that I don't is doing it. Well, it's a nice setup, don't you think :) Well, that concludes that Kde really is the culprit, doesn't it. But what in Kde? /Björn What I see that you use that I don't iptables shorewall netfs nfs and lisa, linuxconf httpd and atd. I've got nessusd smartd and win4lin, that you don't have. I'm suspicious that Lisa is what is polling your HDD but not sure. In my case as well dm is the only diff between rl 3 and 5. My initial reaction would be to turn off (if possible) the ones you have that I don't one at a time then if it doesn't stop turn it back on and go to the next one. As for the 9.1 + texstar combo. Yes love it. That's why my laptop won't be in a hurry to move to 9.2. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Re: Re: Noise
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 15:01, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 12:32, Björn Lundin wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: well, it doesn't worry me, it's just annoying :) Thanks for trying. I'll keep an eye on your harddrive - top - thread, it would be nice to have a utility like that. /Björn The questions I would have (Yeah I know more questions no answers *grin* ) are 1. Does this happen when you log into other WM's like Ice or Gnome etc. This will narrow the problem down to something kde related or not. dividing the world in half. Well, I like Kde so much, I don't have any other wm installed. I'll try installing blackbox or fluxbox... later Now, when I've installed Fluxbox, I notice NO disk activity. (Writing this in Fluxbox, I like the silence, but it's a bit sparse) 2. Could you do an ls of /etc/rc.d/rc5.d and post that. It will tell us what gets started just for runlevel 5 for sure. Won't do a whole lot of difference now, but here goes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] bnl]$ ls /etc/rc5.d/ S03iptables@S12syslog@ S25netfs@ S44acpid@ S65dhcrelay@ S90webmin@ S04acpi@S13slpd@ S25shorewall@ S55sshd@S75keytable@ S92lisa@ S05harddrake@ S14nfslock@ S26apmd@ S56xinetd@ S80spamassassin@ S98postgresql@ S05lm_sensors@ S18sound@S30dm@ S60cups@S85httpd@ S99devfsd@ S10network@ S20random@ S40atd@S60nfs@ S85numlock@ S99linuxconf@ S11portmap@ S20xfs@ S40saslauthd@ S65dhcpd@ S90crond@ S99local@ In addition, a comparison with chkconfig --list reveals that the only service thats on in runlevel 5, and not in runlevel 3 is dm (diplaymanager?) which makes sense. I'm running the same setup as you 9.1 + kde3.1.4 from Texstar + reiserfs and don't have this condition. So something you have that I don't is doing it. Well, it's a nice setup, don't you think :) Well, that concludes that Kde really is the culprit, doesn't it. But what in Kde? /Björn err... puncuation would help let me try again. What I see that you use that I don't are, iptables, shorewall, netfs nfs and lisa, linuxconf httpd and atd. I've got nessusd smartd and win4lin, that you don't have. I'm suspicious that Lisa is what is polling your HDD but not sure. In my case as well, dm is the only diff between rl 3 and 5. My initial reaction would be, turn off (if possible) the ones you have that I don't, one at a time, then if it doesn't stop the polling, turn it back on and go to the next one. Sorry about that As for the 9.1 + texstar combo. Yes love it. That's why my laptop won't be in a hurry to move to 9.2. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing fronts from Qt3
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 17:09, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: It looks like the post-install for the 100dpi font rpm doesn't update the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache-1, but only the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.cache-1: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ rpm -qp --scripts XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.3-8.2mdk.i586.rpm postinstall scriptlet (through /bin/sh): umask 133 cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi mkfontdir || : /usr/bin/fc-cache . || : /usr/sbin/chkfontpath -q -a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled So if the entry doesn't exist before installing the font package, some programs (at least those that use Qt) won't be able to use the font. Here's what happens if the entry doesn't exist: == first, remove the font package entirely: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# rpm -e --nodeps XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.3-8.2mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# rm -rf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache-1 encodings 0 .dir Speedo 0 .dir TTF 0 .dir Type1 0 .dir mdk 0 .dir misc 0 .dir 75dpi 0 .dir MathML 0 .dir 100dpi 0 .dir [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# fc-cache [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache-1 encodings 0 .dir Speedo 0 .dir TTF 0 .dir Type1 0 .dir mdk 0 .dir misc 0 .dir 75dpi 0 .dir MathML 0 .dir == then, install the font package: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# rpm -i XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.3-8.2mdk.i586.rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache-1 encodings 0 .dir Speedo 0 .dir TTF 0 .dir Type1 0 .dir mdk 0 .dir misc 0 .dir 75dpi 0 .dir MathML 0 .dir == But this fixes it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# fc-cache [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache-1 encodings 0 .dir Speedo 0 .dir TTF 0 .dir Type1 0 .dir mdk 0 .dir misc 0 .dir 75dpi 0 .dir MathML 0 .dir 100dpi 0 .dir Glenn Could I be so bold as to trouble you to do a cut and past of the above e-mail into a bug report? I'm quite sure you aren't alone with your problem. Thanks. James http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK 9.2 upgrade
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 15:34, Jack Coates wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:04, R N dev wrote: Same thing happened here with two systems... dunno why, but grub isn't bad so I'm not complaining too loudly. Ok, but it could be a bug and perhaps it would be nice to give feedbacks yeah it would be, but unfortunately I am not a student any more :-) I try to do bug reports when I get a chance, but I frequently don't get a chance. Jack, Watch the spinning ball You are getting sleepy you want to file a bug report *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Printer margins in KDE on MDK 9.2
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 22:56, Tomas Rett wrote: Hi listers, I used MDK Linux 9.1 and printed in KMail and Konqueror well. The printer margins were the default values. I installed MDK LInux 9.2 and the default margins are all 0 cm . When I set my own margins, the setting are valid until I reboot. Where can I set the printer margins up ? - (Uninstalling the printer and installing again does not work, the margins are all zeros.) Tom Tom click on print (as if to print a page) Then when the first window comes up click on properties up in the top right hand corner. The Second tab is margins. Click on the Use Custom Margins check box and then set the margins you need. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Thinking of switching to Mandrake
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 23:43, Richard Urwin wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2003 3:48 am, Jack Coates wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:28, James Sparenberg wrote: ... Well John, We ain't perfect, but we try and we welcome the fresh view of our corner of insanity (Why am I insane? I am trying to reconfigure the company sendmail *grin*) James ... sendmail? Doesn't that stuff give ya cavities? Try doing it back in the early ninties, without the m4 macros, on a UUCP feed. Sort of like the difference between a modern air powered drill and the old belt driven things. And people wonder why I love systems over programming. *grin* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Font Server and Mozilla
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:02, Gonzalo Avaria wrote: Hi experts, i have the following problem, i have not find the solution on the net, but maybe someone can help me. When i run mozilla sometimes, most of them when i´m on google, mozilla freezes, then it closes and send the following message: Gdk-ERROR **: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for op eration) serial 2026417 error_code 2 request_code 75 minor_code 0 Then all the fonts of newly open programs change. Also if i type anything on the xterm it crashes. The i only have the choice of rebooting. When it´s on reboot it says Shutting X Font Server [FAILED] So, one time when it crashed, i went to the tty2? (when you press Ctrl-Alt-F2) and did a startx and recieved: XFree86 Version 4.3.0 Release Date: 27 February 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-0.13mdksmp i686 [ELF] Build Date: 12 March 2003 Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/ to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Nov 13 19:19:23 2003 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Using vt 7 Could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Then, anyone know where the problem should be? Thanks for the time. See you. Do you have the file /.fonts.cache-1 This is the file that used to be in /tmp (and man am I glad it got moved.) Here's mine if you need to rebuild. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk 0 0 .dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts 0 1056754137 .dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo 0 0 .dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF 0 0 .dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi 0 0 .dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings 0 0 .dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc 0 0 .dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi 0 0 .dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 0 0 .dir Yours may need/be slightly different but the above error you mentioned for me was from the loss of this file. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] shorewall
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 13:45, Lawson, Jim wrote: Thomas I will Monday. I installed iptables and it works. 9.2 shore wall is broken. I did the same think I did at home for 9.0 in control center and it works. Just on 9.2 it's broken. Jim, If you get the problem even slightly pegged as to what and why could you submit a bug at bugs.mandrakelinus.com ... thanks. James -Original Message- From: Thomas Backlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] shorewall From: Lawson, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did this below still nothing everything stops... Can you help more Please. the three last lines of /etc/shorewall/routestopped should be: --- cut --- #INTERFACE HOST(S) eth0 #LAST LINE... --- cut --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] shorewall]# service shorewall check Loading /usr/share/shorewall/functions... Processing /etc/shorewall/params ... Processing /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf... Notice: The 'check' command is unsupported and problem reports complaining about errors that it didn't catch will not be accepted Shorewall has detected the following iptables/netfilter capabilities: NAT: Available Packet Mangling: Available Multi-port Match: Available Connection Tracking Match: Available Verifying Configuration... Loading Modules... Determining Zones... Zones: net loc Validating interfaces file... Warning: Invalid option (routestopped) in record net eth0 detect routestopped remove the 'routestopped' from /etc/shorewall/interfaces so the four last lines in that file should be: --- cut --- #ZONEINTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS loceth0 detect neteth1 detect #LAST LINE ... --- cut --- btw, as I forgot to ask before, what internet connection do you have? is it a dsl? and does it get it's ip through dhcp or is it static? if you have dsl that uses PPPoE or PPPoA, you need to change /etc/shorewall/interfaces to: --- cut --- #ZONEINTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS loceth0 detect netppp0 detect #LAST LINE ... --- cut --- and if it's also using dhcp, you need it like this: --- cut --- #ZONEINTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS loceth0 detect netppp0detect dhcp #LAST LINE ... --- cut --- and of course restart shorewall after you have made the changes -- Regards Thomas PS. sorry for the delays in answering, I had to leave my computer for a while... __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Disapearing menu's
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:07, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 04:34, James Sparenberg wrote: All, Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde. Would anyone who can check, test and let me know? James Update, Per my question they are now in Cooker and Vincent is porting the patch to 9.2 as we speak. I'll keep ya'll posted. James Just got word that the fix is in updates Would those who have been fighting this please check and let me know the results? The problem seems to have been in kde-libs. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Disapearing menu's
All, Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde. Would anyone who can check, test and let me know? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Resurection of a Dead LG Drive
All, They can be repaired. I put the info in the TWiki as well here's the blurb. LG has put out information on how to correct the problem of a dead drive to to an MDK install. Got to LG's Website (http://us.lgservice.com/ ) Click on the Devices Icon and then choose cdrom from the list. Click the link Dead.gif to get the instructions and then grab the correct firmware from the same page as Dead.gif to get the needed firmware. And yes. You need to do it from a M$ box. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 10:23, Jack Coates wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 09:56, Michael Holt wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 06:47, Jack Coates wrote: you assume that they know what they're doing... many people in the IT world don't. LOL I'm working on the 'NMCI' project in Bremerton, WA right now - the 'Naval Marine Corps Intranet'. I believe that there are a few really sharp people doing the engineering, but each day my bubble gets a little more crushed realizing how true your statement is. I just assumed that the people I went to work with new more than I and were all professionals... Yeah, nothing like interviewing job candidates to burst that bubble :-) There are some very good people out there, but the dangerous ones are the ones that know just enough to do things but don't know enough to realize that they shouldn't do that thing. The one I love to find is the guy/gal who says I don't know but I know where I can find out. Second hardest thing to teach people. Don't find out why it happened first. Find out what happened, what should happen, and how to fix it. Amazing when you do that the why kinda finds itself. Kinda like this one. 3 people are in a car. An Electrical Engineer, A Windows programmer, and a Mechanical Engineer. They are trying to get a car to re-start after it dies. The Electrical Engineer is under the hood testing the wiring, the Mechanical Engineer is under the car Checking out if the measurements are matching the blueprints. The Programmer is opening and closing windows, and a kid who is riding by on his Bike suggests putting gas in the tank. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Disapearing menu's
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 04:34, James Sparenberg wrote: All, Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde. Would anyone who can check, test and let me know? James Update, Per my question they are now in Cooker and Vincent is porting the patch to 9.2 as we speak. I'll keep ya'll posted. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Disappearing menu's
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 07:48, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: If we've already run the update-menus, would applying this patch be a valid test? yes, Since the problem is there in both cases. Expect the new patch very soon as Laurent and Vincent are testing/porting it now. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:35 AM To: Expert List Subject: [expert] Disapearing menu's All, Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde. Would anyone who can check, test and let me know? James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Disappearing menu's
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 13:21, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 03:45 pm, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: what about the screensavers? Should they be visible now? That should be fixed with the existing updates. And Vincent has been hoping all over Laurent and others on this as well (Vincent for those who don't know is the point man on release updates.) They seem to have it working for themselves, so hopefully it will for all of you. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Disappearing menu's
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 13:34, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: I thought so too (that's what the advisory said they fixed) but I still only get the three - blank screen, mandrake slide show and random. I've run update-menus -v and have no available updates listed on my Mandrake Update Center. Could I have pulled from a bad mirror? Do you have kdearwork installed? Specifically kdeartwork-3.1.3-4mdk Has anyone else who has performed these updates got their screensavers to show up? It's not all that important, but now I'm just curious about what is really going on David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Meyer Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Disappearing menu's On Thursday 13 November 2003 03:45 pm, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: what about the screensavers? Should they be visible now? That should be fixed with the existing updates. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Thinking of switching to Mandrake
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 15:29, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 04:57 pm, John Aldrich wrote: I'm thinking of switching to Mandrake from RedHat 9 since RedHat is effectively discontinuing the full-fledged hobbyist version of RedHat and splitting the userbase between Fedora for those of us who don't have several hundred dollars for enterprise linux and those who have the money and need for Enterprise linux. I think Fedora will actually be much more suited to the hobbyist than RedHat was. I have been playing around with both on my Thinkpad and have written a quick comparison available here: http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/fedora_v_mandrake.html My question is, how well would the switch go? I typically keep my home directory on it's own partition and another partition with some MP3s and other miscellaneous data. I typically blow everything else away and reformat. One thing I liked about RedHat was that when I did this, it would recognize how my system was partitioned and offer to re-use the old partitions. Will Mandrake do this for me? I'm on RedHat 9.0 right now with ext3 file systems throughout. It will do the same thing, ask you if you want to use your existing partitions. If you usually use this method, then your switch should be quite easy. I have used Mandrake before, but the last time I think I used it was back around Mandrake 5 or 6, before they made it so difficult to get ISOs of the distro. I basically liked it then, but there were a few advanced features I wasn't so thrilled with, but I'm looking at giving it another shot. There are many features that it has that I love, but others hate, like msec and shorewall. rpm -e msec --nodeps then edit /etc/urpmi/skip.list and add msec. *evil grin* btw I treat zeroconf and tmdns to the same merciless death. As with anything, it really just takes some getting used to and going through the learning curve. mandrake also has a lot of nice default config files (well remarked too) for most apps, like postfix and samba. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Thinking of switching to Mandrake
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:38, John Aldrich wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:33 pm, T. Ribbrock wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:57:04PM -0500, John Aldrich wrote: I'm thinking of switching to Mandrake from RedHat 9 [...] Funny to see some old hands from redhat-list show up here all in a sudden... Welcome, John! :-) I've actually done the same, though I came from RHL7.3 and I did a full install (MDK9.1 - the 9.2 CDs only arrived yesterday). Heh... well, when your O/S vendor decides they no longer want anything to do with hobbyists you have to make other arrangements. :-) Thanks for the warm welcome! Well John, We ain't perfect, but we try and we welcome the fresh view of our corner of insanity (Why am I insane? I am trying to reconfigure the company sendmail *grin*) James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi questions
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 18:27, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote: Evening everyone. I just installed Mandrake 9.2 via FTP onto one of our servers to test out. We are looking for a replacement OS for our servers. One thing I wanted to learn is some of the Mandrake specific tools, specifically urpmi and msec. I was working with urpmi trying to learn its functions and have a couple of questions. Is there a way to list the packages that are available to download? urpmq --list will give you a list of all available packages, without versions. urpmq --fuzzy samba will give you all packages that have samba in the name or description. I recommend reading the man pages for all the urpm* commands. Vox, Except for uprmq I would agree. It's perhaps the least helpful of all of them. It has some... but it's IMHO weak. James PS I know I know submit a patch *grin* For instance, I was playing around and typed: urpmi samba It gave me a list of dependencies, which is nice, but then said it was going to install samba 2.2.8a. Is there a way to grab the 3.0 version? samba3 is only in contrib, so you need to have a contrib source configured to be able to install samba3. Due to it being in contrib, it's named in a distinct way, which in this case means adding the 3 to the name of all packages. So to install samba3, you do urpmi samba3 :) Secondly, is there a way with urpmi to see what versions of the software I have? I know I can with rpm -qa |grep package. Can you do this with urpmi? urpmq -r packagename will give you the release and version of the package. The problem with that output is that it'll give you release and version of available packages, it doesn't care or differentiate between installed and not installed. I'm not sure if there's a way of doing the same thing as rpm -q package with urpmi. Vox Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sylpheed: how to filter on body text?
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 00:40, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:21:42 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: Hi folks, I am in a pinch: i have all of a sudden started getting all bounces from newbie (since i am listed as an owner to help with subbing and unsubbing). So, i am getting one bounce for every bad address for every post! Does anyone know how to filter on the body text (and attachment text) in sylpheed? I am used to seeing an Any header / any body or some such choice in filtering, but can't seem to find that in sylpheed. Thanks for any help. Configuration - Filtering - Condition - Define - Match Type - Body Part (It's tough to *do* it and type it at the same time.) Not to mention that someone gets real upset that you aren't paying attention to them. *evil grin* James If that is not clear enough, Ill go into more detail. Tim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 07:44, stefmit wrote: Hi, fellow MDK-ers. I may be repeating myself, but I am not as much of a MDK geek, as a network person trying to use (and paying for it!) the MDK solution as underlying system for my network and security tools ... this as an introduction (to point my end-user status, if you will, and how many customers of MDK may perceive the issues) ;) I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some questions: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). [Q] - is there a repository of all the known and still unpatched screw-ups, on the MDK web site? And possibly workarounds? 2 places from/for MDK. Like all of the others an errata section is maintained at http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3 (this is the English Version.) And now for 9.2 we finally have a bug tracking system for bugs in the release version (and yes it does get read and acted on.) http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com is that URL. 2. I have purchased the Pro-Pack (I think ?!? - it is the one with 9 CDs and a workstation DVD), but without the manuals (of course, as I was the one having gotten burned before with the purchase of their special Definitive Manual - which was a piece of worthless paper, falling apart, also). The package and invoice do not contain any product ID. [Q] Having paid something ($139.95), I was expecting to be able to register and get support for the whatever_time_frame_30_days_?!?, so I can get to the main purpose of my install, i.e. trying new tools and recompiling my stuff. But there is no product ID I could use. Am I wrong assuming that for the commercial package one would expect some support to begin with? I am willing and capable of looking and resolving issues on my own, but I have some (I consider them decent) pre-requisites for things I pay for ... am I totally off? 3. I used to use easy urpmi's web site to build additional sources for packages (eventually replacing even the need for CDs). I have tried a couple of 9.2 ones, from the same http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I have been using for 9.1, but almost all the variations I have tried had failed one way or another (in the middle of updates, or not being able to contact sites at all, etc.). I am still successful in using the 9.1 ones (with a minor exception - it looks like my favorite French club-internet.fr source site is not working anymore with curl, and I have to use wget ... as of a week and a half ago). [Q] Does anybody know if the 9.2 is still too crude to count on the easy urpmi repositories of source sites? Are those still unstable for this new release? [Overall-Qs] Does this whole 9.2 look really embarrassingly unprofessionally released to any of you? I have tried Suse/Novell 9.0, while awaiting for my 9.2 MDK package, and I was quite impressed with it ... and the only reason of not switching over being their lack of an urpmi-like tool (apt was not enough for what I was trying to do). Are we seeing here a Merecedes vs. Renault difference developing (I used to use both types of cars heavily, while in Europe, and I have this strange feeling about distributions now, the same way) ;)? I sure hope nobody blames the above on my lack of trying to resolve issues by researching myself. It is more of a - perhaps unwarranted - little bit higher than figure it out yourself expectation, from a commercial product. I apologize for your time spent reading this, Stef __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 01:16, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 7:32 am, Mofeed Shahin wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 12:23 am, Mof wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:47 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 12:43, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 2:37 pm, Jack Coates wrote: With the extra information of not attempting resume allowing it to boot, I'll wager that your swap contains a corrupted system image and is unusable as swap. free will show you no swap available. swapoff, format /dev/hda5, swapon. If you are right about swap containing a corrupted imate, what can he do about it? swapoff /dev/hdaX mkdswap /dev/hdaX (your swap partition) swapon /dev/hdaX Then create a second swap partion about 10-20% larger than ram and use it for suspend not the normal swap. I looked at free, and all the swap was free, but I formated it anyway to make sure. (I did format both swap partitions to be sure as well) It still hangs when the lid is closed. Did you make the second swap, as James suggested? Yes, I now have 2 swap partitions. /dev/hda5 which is 768M /dev/hda7 which is 1G /dev/hda5 is my real swap partition. OK. Now have you checked that the suspend is now trying for hda7? And (sorry if this is insulting, it's not meant to be, but we all forget the obvious sometimes) there is a mount statement for hda7 in fstab and it's currently mounted? Anne hda7 shouldn't get mounted! http://swsusp.sourceforge.net/ is the site. http://swsusp.sourceforge.net/FAQ.html for the FAQ and http://swsusp.sourceforge.net/Software-suspend.html for the howto. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 20:45, Eric Huff wrote: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACPI Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller errr APIC sorry. Now this is getting freaky. This thread showed up several months ago on newbie (i think) and i swear i wrote exactly what you did above eric Eric, Don't haunt Newbie so to me it's just proof that great minds run on the same wavelength. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Enabling a Laptop Touch Pad
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 06:02, Pierre Fortin wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:03:07 -0800 Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I loaded 9.0 onto my Dell Inspiron 3200, I did not connect the mouse, and the touch pad was working perfectly. Now that I have plugged in a mouse to the system, the mouse works fine, but the touch pad is a crazy clicking monster if the mouse is not plugged in, and I would like to use this laptop on the bus to work and so on, so the touch pad is a must. Now, is it possible to use either interchangeably? But the bottom line is getting the touch pad to work. How do I do that? What mouse setting do I need in XF86 or Harddrake? I'm supporting a friend with 9.1 on a Dell and the trick is to hit Shift then use the touchpad IIRC. Using the mouse requires hitting Shift again to go back to the touchpad. I may have fogotten the exact sequence; but HTH... Other option is /etc/init.d/gpm restart This will cause the mouse drivers etc to be reloaded when switching. A crude hack yes. But it may be needed. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Printing with mandrake 9.1
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 10:32, Lawson, Jim wrote: is there anyway to make the print drivers automatically pull down when you install a printer? Under windows Nt , 2k or 2003 server the drivers get pulled down automatically. Not really because the concept of drivers as you are used to in windows is different in Linux. Meaning that if you have the software needed to print it includes the drivers needed. If you're system is all linux cups will automatically detect printers installed on other cups enabled linux boxes and allow you to use it's printer / drivers. (If for example I bring my laptop onto your network I will see your printers and be able to print through them if I'm on the same lan.) So although the approach is different the affect is the same in this case. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 10:24, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: Who and how to tell? I'm really surprised that this isn't all over the message boards by now. Am we the only people having this problem, or the only ones who have done the upgrade? Is anyone from Mandrake following this list? Vincent? David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:25 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed Tell them to fix this it really is the pitts.. -Original Message- From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:16 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed OK, I did a rebuild of both the system and the root menus from MenuDrake and now KControl seems to be working again - except for the fact that I still don't have screen savers which was the whole reason for the upgrade in the first place. I'll log into the machine locally tonight and see if the rest of the KDE environment has returned to normal... Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. David The who to tell is bugs.mandrake.com. The Anthill bug reporting system is getting listened too so it would be a first stop for sure. The cure for lost menu's First verify that /etc/menu/menudrakeentry looks something like. ?package(menu): needs=kde icon=applications_section.png section=/ title=.hidden charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): command=superkaramba needs=x11 icon=Cola.xpm section=Configuration/Other/ title=Super Karamba charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=/ title=Exit charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/ title=Window Maker charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Appearance charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/ title=Background charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/Background/ title=Gradient charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/Background/ title=Images charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/Background/ title=Solid charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Information charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Selection charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Workspace charset=ISO-8859-1 Note the title lines if they are instead of whatever things go bad. Anything you put in will get stuff back. Then as the user (not root) do either update-menus, or if you want to see the output update-menus -v James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:24 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed Do a rebuild of the menus from menudrake i think it was. -Original Message- From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:57 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed Has anything you tried brought them back? I'm totally at a loss. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:47 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed I complained about this also if you restart X you will notice that the menus are gone. -Original Message- From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed Hello all, Last night, as the last thing I did after setting up a shiny new box, I updated to all the latest bug and security fixes for 9.2. As a result of my efforts, KDE's KControl is now totally broken. When I try to launch it, I get the following spit out to the console: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings After which, Kcontrol comes up without any plugins. A similar error happens when I try to configure Konqueror: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/ kcontrol: ERROR: Module filebehavior not found! kcontrol
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 05:53, Mof wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:59 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 22:02, Mof wrote: The rpm -e -nodeps suspend-scripts didn't work, so it became obvious that it was a kernel problem, so I thought I'd upgrade to the latest kernel, and see what happens, but as I was doing that I noticed something odd in lilo.conf : append=quiet devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent First off I really don't know what acpi=ht means. What is ht ?? So I changed it to on But wait! Look right next to that and you'll see the causer of all pain resume=/dev/hda5 But /dev/hda5 is my bloody swap partition After removing the resume=/dev/hda5, it works fine now! Yep, it was using the same partition of the suspend as it was for swap. Whereas suspend to swap does use a swap partition to suspend, it doesn't use one that is mounted and when you use swap it really mucks with what swsuspend writes there. In other words if you had a second swap not in fstab (partitioned in size to about 20% over ram) That isn't listed in fstab then suspend to swap should work right for you. It's up to you if you want to experiment with this or not but if you have the disk you might want to use this. Hmmm I reinstalled, this time creating a 768M a 1G swap partition, I intended to use the 1G partition as the software suspend partition. It works great when I run 'pmsuspend2' from the command line. Ie it suspends, and in a matter of seconds it can come back up. If I shut the lid though, it still hangs!! Once again it works if I change the following in lilo.conf : acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda7 to acpi=on So it seems there is still a problem. And yes I did remove /dev/hda7 from /etc/fstab. So does anyone have anymore suggestions ? :-) Mof. See what I get for reading the FM *grin* The last one I can't test because my laptop doesn't do ACPI or the lid close feature. and my desktop doesn't have a lid *grin* One question here. Is there anything being written to /var/log/messages when this happens? If there is too much noise to be able to tell you could do a tail -f /var/log/messages somefilename.txt Then close the lid. and see if it gives you any useful info. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Setting up cvsweb
Hello, Can someone point me to a HOWTO for setting up cvsweb. I have Apache installed and am using Webmin to administer it. The only thing Apache will be doing is hosting the cvsweb cgi. Many thanks in advance, James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 12:43, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 2:37 pm, Jack Coates wrote: With the extra information of not attempting resume allowing it to boot, I'll wager that your swap contains a corrupted system image and is unusable as swap. free will show you no swap available. swapoff, format /dev/hda5, swapon. If you are right about swap containing a corrupted imate, what can he do about it? swapoff /dev/hdaX mkdswap /dev/hdaX (your swap partition) swapon /dev/hdaX Then create a second swap partion about 10-20% larger than ram and use it for suspend not the normal swap. James Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 08:05, Michael Holt wrote: James Sparenberg mused: There was/is one that was by many considered to be studio quality called broadcast 2000 You can find the files here http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/ in source form and If you go to rpmfind or rpm.pbone.net you might find a src rpm as well. James Thanks James, I d/l'd it and am going to start playing with it now. I'm curious though; cinelerra is supposed to be the replacement for bcast2k and I googled around for bcast; do you know why they stopped supporting bcast? Some of what they where doing was patented after the fact and they felt that the chances of running into expensive lawsuits wasn't worth the risk. James Thanks again Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [dfox@m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com: hijack cont.]
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:25, Phil G. wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:56:21 -0500, Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:09:44 -0800 Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwarded: reviewing the logs, I have seen a large number of GETs in /var/log/httpd/*.log with very long pathnames and/or requests to xxx.xxx.xxx:25. I think that is how they got in. Not in; but through... I pointed this out to David in a private mail along with the below quick test for proxying... Seems that using :25 is a twist that I hadn't seen; but then again, most of us have turned off proxying after this was raised here months ago... Part of my msg to David: Hmmm... wonder if this is related to the www relaying that can happen in an apache server... [testing your address...] port 80 is blocked... is this done by your ISP? The way to check for httpd relaying is simple: telnet IP 80 [connected messages] GET http://some.remote.site HTTP/1.0enter enter Wow! The other day I got a nasty e-mail (in that it crashed opera when it tried to open it) from someone who has adsl with pacbell.net. The header said it was from my domain (which really p*ss*d me off.) So I just tried your relay test on this guy's ip address, and it worked. Now, how do you tell the user? - that is, how do you find out who it is? You might report him to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not that they care.) Other option block his IP number (which will only work until he/she gets a new lease.) Or go to the IP number with a browser see if he/she is running a webpage and see if there is an e-mail address. James If the returned page is from some.remote.site, your server is an open relay... I've seen this long ago and suspected people were using this to bump hit-counters causing possible charges ($$) between target and advertiser. Dunno if this could be used to relay mail; but would not be surprised. It appears that adding :25 was a pretty simple hack to abuse the apache proxying... yet another reason for everyone to verify that mod-proxy is disabled Phil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 09:48, Michael Holt wrote: Artemio mused: I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. If in /etc/lilo.conf for main linux image you have acpi=off in append string - try to change it to acpi=on and say lilo to re-install the loader. Or, if you have acpi=on try to set it to off. Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different things? two (three) different things. ACPI Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller ACPI is part of Linear Algebra and beyond my ken. *grin* James Thanks though, it works now! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 11:32, Lawson, Jim wrote: I think the others are more of an expert than me so they really don't care since they can fix most problems ASAP. -Original Message- From: James Sparenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 2:08 PM To: Expert List Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 10:24, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: Who and how to tell? I'm really surprised that this isn't all over the message boards by now. Am we the only people having this problem, or the only ones who have done the upgrade? Is anyone from Mandrake following this list? Vincent? David David, Just talked with Vincent via e-mail on this and he's forwarding things up the line to the package maintainers. He agrees that this one is a lot more serious than initially thought and they are on it. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:25 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed Tell them to fix this it really is the pitts.. -Original Message- From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:16 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed OK, I did a rebuild of both the system and the root menus from MenuDrake and now KControl seems to be working again - except for the fact that I still don't have screen savers which was the whole reason for the upgrade in the first place. I'll log into the machine locally tonight and see if the rest of the KDE environment has returned to normal... Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. David The who to tell is bugs.mandrake.com. The Anthill bug reporting system is getting listened too so it would be a first stop for sure. The cure for lost menu's First verify that /etc/menu/menudrakeentry looks something like. ?package(menu): needs=kde icon=applications_section.png section=/ title=.hidden charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): command=superkaramba needs=x11 icon=Cola.xpm section=Configuration/Other/ title=Super Karamba charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=/ title=Exit charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/ title=Window Maker charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Appearance charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/ title=Background charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/Background/ title=Gradient charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/Background/ title=Images charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/Background/ title=Solid charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Information charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Selection charset=ISO-8859-1 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Workspace charset=ISO-8859-1 Note the title lines if they are instead of whatever things go bad. Anything you put in will get stuff back. Then as the user (not root) do either update-menus, or if you want to see the output update-menus -v James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:24 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed Do a rebuild of the menus from menudrake i think it was. -Original Message- From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:57 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed Has anything you tried brought them back? I'm totally at a loss. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:47 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed I complained about this also if you restart X you will notice that the menus are gone. -Original Message- From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:34 AM
Re: [expert] Presario 2700 ACPI
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 14:54, Primero.Franz wrote: Hi all. I've got some problems with ACPI support on my Laptop, here is my setup: Compaq Presario 2700 Mandrake 9.2 Kernel 2.4.22-021mdk Iv'e tried with the RPM Kernel version , loading any possible combinations of ACPI-MODULES, and a self-build Kernel 2.4.22-021mdk version with all ACPI features enabled. My problems are about the Battery. First of all , altough i have only one battery, the cat proc/acpi/battery/... shows me 2 batteries!! Then, when i plug-out the ac-adapter, the system recognizes it and the systray icon changes. The battery icon appears but it doesn't work, it's like i have no battery and mandrake starts to warn me about this. cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info says present:no . I've tryed some re-compilation of kernel, i've tryed patches and ... anything i've found!! Anyone have some ideas? :-)) Thank you. Primero Primero, If your box is like my compaq (Armada M700) then ACPI is build to an interim draft not the final standard. Does APM work for you? I had to drop back to it because like I said no matter what OS ... it doesn't work right. (my batt actually reads 0 no matter what I do, even if I remove events entirely.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:34, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 09:48, Michael Holt wrote: Artemio mused: I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. If in /etc/lilo.conf for main linux image you have acpi=off in append string - try to change it to acpi=on and say lilo to re-install the loader. Or, if you have acpi=on try to set it to off. Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different things? two (three) different things. ACPI Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller errr APIC sorry. ACPI is part of Linear Algebra and beyond my ken. *grin* James Thanks though, it works now! __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:49, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:34, James Sparenberg wrote: ACPI is part of Linear Algebra and beyond my ken. *grin* James Yeah, thanks. I wasn't screwed up enough with just two definitions :) Glad I could add to the confusion. *grin* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] viewcvs
Hello, Can anyone direct me to a 'viewcvs' howto or give me a few pointers on how to set this up. Many thanks in advance, James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:58, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:50, James Sparenberg wrote: APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller errr APIC sorry. James APIC AIPC ACIP AICP APCI ACPI I CNA'T TKAE IT AYNMROE!!! Does this mean I should avoid APM ATM ACM ASPI and ADM ? James (Automatic Power Management, Asynchronous Transfer Mode, Association for Computer Machinery, Advanced SCSI Programming Interface and the last one is an exploit tool of unknown origin. *grin*) James :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Need some docs on administering Mandrake systems
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:53, Jason Williams wrote: Hello everyone. We are in the process of replacing all of our Red Hat servers with other systems. One system we are strongly contemplating is Mandrake. What im looking for is some good documents that show how to adminster Mandrake systems. For instance, any Mandrake specific tools, like urpmi. If anyone could point me in the right direction to learn about tools like urpmi, draksec (i think) and others, I would greatly appreciate it. I should note, i'm reading up on the docs on the page, but I have not found anything that has really helped me learn more about the system and specific tools. Cheers, Jason Great place to start (English or French) is urpmi.org. It's a project aimed at gathering all of the urpmi data into one place. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 16:19, Mof wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:44 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 05:53, Mof wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:59 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 22:02, Mof wrote: The rpm -e -nodeps suspend-scripts didn't work, so it became obvious that it was a kernel problem, so I thought I'd upgrade to the latest kernel, and see what happens, but as I was doing that I noticed something odd in lilo.conf : append=quiet devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent First off I really don't know what acpi=ht means. What is ht ?? So I changed it to on But wait! Look right next to that and you'll see the causer of all pain resume=/dev/hda5 But /dev/hda5 is my bloody swap partition After removing the resume=/dev/hda5, it works fine now! Yep, it was using the same partition of the suspend as it was for swap. Whereas suspend to swap does use a swap partition to suspend, it doesn't use one that is mounted and when you use swap it really mucks with what swsuspend writes there. In other words if you had a second swap not in fstab (partitioned in size to about 20% over ram) That isn't listed in fstab then suspend to swap should work right for you. It's up to you if you want to experiment with this or not but if you have the disk you might want to use this. Hmmm I reinstalled, this time creating a 768M a 1G swap partition, I intended to use the 1G partition as the software suspend partition. It works great when I run 'pmsuspend2' from the command line. Ie it suspends, and in a matter of seconds it can come back up. If I shut the lid though, it still hangs!! Once again it works if I change the following in lilo.conf : acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda7 to acpi=on So it seems there is still a problem. And yes I did remove /dev/hda7 from /etc/fstab. So does anyone have anymore suggestions ? :-) Mof. See what I get for reading the FM *grin* The last one I can't test because my laptop doesn't do ACPI or the lid close feature. and my desktop doesn't have a lid *grin* One question here. Is there anything being written to /var/log/messages when this happens? If there is too much noise to be able to tell you could do a tail -f /var/log/messages somefilename.txt Then close the lid. and see if it gives you any useful info. I tried this but there is nothing showing up in /var/log/messages. Mof. What this indicates is that ACPI is doing what it thinks it's supposed to do and the results aren't right. Honestly without the box (or a box that does do ACPI) in front of me I'm pretty much fresh out of ideas on this one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] manually start / stop gpilotd
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 19:11, Bill Mullen wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:02, Michael Holt wrote: Ok, I ran /usr/lib/gpilotd and all is well. Now, what did 'file' tell me beside the fact that this was an executable file? I noticed that you said if it's a *script* then it might tell you something useful. I tried running file on some scripts; it seems to describe what type of scripts you're looking at. Is that what you were getting at? yeah, if file says it's a script, then you vi -R the script and see what it does (-R means read-only :-) Also worth knowing is that view is equivalent to vi -R (and quite a bit easier to remember) ... gview is the same as gvim -R, also ... just beware wq! will override the read only status of the file. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Enabling a Laptop Touch Pad
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 19:03, Rob Blomquist wrote: When I loaded 9.0 onto my Dell Inspiron 3200, I did not connect the mouse, and the touch pad was working perfectly. Now that I have plugged in a mouse to the system, the mouse works fine, but the touch pad is a crazy clicking monster if the mouse is not plugged in, and I would like to use this laptop on the bus to work and so on, so the touch pad is a must. Now, is it possible to use either interchangeably? But the bottom line is getting the touch pad to work. How do I do that? What mouse setting do I need in XF86 or Harddrake? My laptop did this until I made a change in BIOS that allowed me to use two mice at once. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Real Player / Firebird 0.6.1 / Mandrake 9.2
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 18:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Artemio. Actually this is more complicated than I thought - Yes it is Real Player. When I run it standalone, it can't see the net, and can't load any of the channels from its menu. (Yes, the network settings in its options appear to be sane, except that I'm attempting to do this over a modem...) I know it can't see the net since when I run the wizard to check for the best connection type, it thinks I have a firewall. I don't. Are there ports which should be specifically opened that aren't by default? If so, which, and how? BUT, when inside firebird, it can run movies from real.com (the website). That's the only site out of several which works. As a test, could you maybe post a site from which real movies work for you, so I can check? Thanks Can't remember the link path but in the area of the prefs that you mention above there is a checkbox to force the use of http. Since it works in the browser (this is an http transfer AFAIK) it should then allow the rest to work as well. James On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:38:38 +0200, Artemio [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5) Went to movies.yahoo.com and tried to play a trailer. RealPlayer shows up, but does nothing (i.e. there is no network activity for 5+ minutes). Do you have RealOne or RealPlayer8? When I had RealPlayer 8 - mozilla/firebird worked great with it - click on a realmedia link and it plays in realplayer. But then I upgraded to RealOne and got the same thing as you - it fires up, but doesn't do anythings. Then I got back to RP8 and it works fine again ever since with all mozillas I ever had. Get a RP8 instead of RealOne if that's your case. I can send you a link or a RP8.tar.bz2 itself if you want. Artemio. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:50, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Nov 2003 5:23 am, Michael Noble wrote: It has been a while since I last dd a disk drive (it is best to make them the same type and size). Assuming that the old disk is /dev/hda and the new disk is /dev/hdb the following command should work: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb I've heard people recommend this before, but I'm not sure why this is better than cp -a ? I do remember that the last time I tried to copy a whole directory to a new partition I had some problems before I got it right, so I want to be clear before I start. Then make the new disk /dev/hda and the system should boot. As I said it has been a while and may have the basic command a little off. But the original (noisy) drive will still be in working order. If you have it, I have also heard that the latest Norton Ghost will also work. This is really a much better way, but I don't have the latest Norton Ghost. My Drive Image is not the latest, either. Is there not a linux tool that tackles it in a similar way, rather than just copying files? Anne partimage you do have that one. It's only a urpmi away. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Anyone get flash player 6 working under mandrake 9.2?
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 22:33, Vincent Chen wrote: Hi, all I downloaded flash player 6 from macromedia download site and install it on mandrake 9.2. It used to work on mandrake 9.0 with mozilla 1.1 but not 9.2 with mozilla 1.4. Anyone get this work? Thanks, Make sure it didn't put the libs in either /usr/lib/netscape/plugin or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/ Had that happen to me and had to move the files it created to the right place. James - Yahoo! http://tw.promo.yahoo.com/mail_premium/stationery.html __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Draksync with subdirs
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 23:25, t_gecks wrote: Another great sync tool to mention would be unison in my eyes. I've tried several and this has come out as the best for my needs, it synchronizes in both directions, presents you a list of what to do which you can edit and has the ability to sync over ssh, rsh and ftp or locally. It exists in a Windows version, too. http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ Funny that you mention this. I just grabbed it two days ago and I really like the way it dual syncs, notices files that are deleted etc. Turns your laptop into a palm in a sense, working over the internet or lan. I've a couple of minor Man I wish type things. Like being able to declare multiple directories in a single profile but the truth is. It works and works rather well. It even backups soft links as a softlink, not as a file or dir. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 23:31, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Nov 2003 7:08 am, James Sparenberg wrote: partimage you do have that one. It's only a urpmi away. Fine. Is it well documented? Anne Yes, considering that I could use it. And I can top the thick headed list when needed. One thing I found useful is to have it on a floppy, as the version I used couldn't image a mounted partition. In fact now that I think of it partimage is on Knoppix as well so if you have that one. james Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 15:45, Michael Holt wrote: Hey all, M$ has a somewhat new program called 'moviemaker' which you can download for free for winxp. I would like to know if there is something comparible for linux. I was asked if I could help with some video production at my church and they want to use Adobe Premier. As always, I would like to introduce as much opensource as possible. I haven't done much video editing, and what I have done was on Windows, several years ago. I would like something that could handle both jpeg compilation like moviemaker and also something that could do video transitions with effects similar to premier. Being able to make photos 'shatter' into the next photo or have like a 'page-flip' effect. Same with the video; maybe being able to 'twist' the video and merge into other footage. Any suggestions? Things I've looked at already are: cinelerra kino mjpeg filmgimp As I've said, I don't have much video editing experience; if one of the programs I've already mentioned does what I've asked, feel free to point that out :) Thanks! There was/is one that was by many considered to be studio quality called broadcast 2000 You can find the files here http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/ in source form and If you go to rpmfind or rpm.pbone.net you might find a src rpm as well. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 22:02, Mof wrote: The rpm -e -nodeps suspend-scripts didn't work, so it became obvious that it was a kernel problem, so I thought I'd upgrade to the latest kernel, and see what happens, but as I was doing that I noticed something odd in lilo.conf : append=quiet devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent First off I really don't know what acpi=ht means. What is ht ?? So I changed it to on But wait! Look right next to that and you'll see the causer of all pain resume=/dev/hda5 But /dev/hda5 is my bloody swap partition After removing the resume=/dev/hda5, it works fine now! Yep, it was using the same partition of the suspend as it was for swap. Whereas suspend to swap does use a swap partition to suspend, it doesn't use one that is mounted and when you use swap it really mucks with what swsuspend writes there. In other words if you had a second swap not in fstab (partitioned in size to about 20% over ram) That isn't listed in fstab then suspend to swap should work right for you. It's up to you if you want to experiment with this or not but if you have the disk you might want to use this. James Thanks alot guys for being so patient. I should have sent the append line from the start! Mof. On Tuesday 11 November 2003 00:55, Jack Coates wrote: try rpm -e --nodeps suspend-scripts. On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:45, Mofeed Shahin wrote: reply-to still a problem. Yeah must be something I've done with kmail. On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 23:56, Mof wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:28 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 16:44, Mof wrote: It appears that acpi and apm do the same thing, which is the prefered one to use anyway ? And if acpi is the prefered, how do I load up the right modules ? Mof. This order of commands should do it. As root. /etc/init.d/apmd stop chkconfig apmd off /etc/init.d/acpid start chkconfig acpid on edit lilo (or grup) and change append=acpi=off to append=acpi=on This should set you up so that upon a reboot you are running acpi not apm as well as get the right stuff started. Note acpid won't start if apm is running (conflict avoidence.) Thanks James, but even with acpi working, it still hangs. Even though I have deleted /etc/acpi/events/lid, it still crashes when I close the lid. did you remember to use service acpid restart after editing that file? yes, I even rebooted. Arrrgghhh, looks like I'll have to stick with 9.1 until I can work out what is going on here!! Mof. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed.
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 22:54, Jack Coates wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 15:27, Stew Benedict wrote: On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Jack Coates wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 06:57, Jack Coates wrote: edit /etc/acpi/events/lid and comment out action=/usr/sbin/pmsuspend ACPI is attempting to trigger swsusp suspend-to-disk, which basically doesn't work on modern laptops. ... that's actually not a fair comment, I should actually state that it doesn't work on Mandrake kernels; it works fine with SuSE and Debian according to the other mailing lists I'm on. Actually it does, depending on the machine of course, like all acpi functionality. I was using it for a week or so, but it's so slow, I can do a normal shutdown/boot faster than a suspend resume. Machine: Compaq Presario 1215US Stew Benedict Good for you! did you do anything special or did it just work? BTW, ACPI and swsusp haven't actually got anything to do with each other, except that ACPI events can trigger a suspend. In my case. (Compaq Armada) ACPI doesn't work but APM is flawless. In fact ACPI doesn't work under other OS's either. So no loss. It really seems to be an LG problem. A number of Laptops like mine don't quite follow the spec or followed a test spec and so don't work right. I've two dells at work we use for mobile demo's Same model one is just a version up from the other (xp and ixp or something like that) One works with acpi one with apm. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] (OT)Uh..... Am I alone in noticing the insanity?
Am I alone in noticing the insanity. As if SCO wasn't bad enough. Lycoris deciding that it can rewrite the GPL. Now the CEO of RedHat (or as I've heard of late DeadRat) is advocating that Home users stick with Windows as Linux isn't ready for the desktop. Maybe I should send the SOB a copy of 9.2 when it's ready to show him what RH could have been if they didn't suffer from NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39117575,00.htm James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (OT)Uh..... Am I alone in noticing the insanity?
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 06:22, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:42 am, Jack Coates wrote: Anyone interested in this mess should have a look at this article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33823.html They're trying to increase revenues by preventing use of their desktop offering in the server room. They've chosen a method that cuts off the nose to spite the face, but I still think they'll continue to be quite successful in the Fortune 500 space for inertial reasons. Only thing is, when the Fortune 500 begins to seriously evaluate Linux desktops, they won't be running RH. The question is, once they bring in Mandrake or SuSE or Fedora for the desktops, what's going to stop them from bringing it into the server room too? My take on this is that it is more of a branding issue. Desktops need much more cutting edge, in most cases, than do servers and certainly different types of supported hardware. RH appears to be attempting to fully differentiate its offerings, Fedora on the desktop with more cutting edge releases and by necessity, more buggy software, and the staid, old tried and true Redhat that goes into the server, has paid support and doesn't depend as much on the community. I don't necessarily think that any of this is a bad idea, at least from the perspective of creating an OS that is designed for a specific segment. Where as I don't find fault with having two versions of any distro. I do however find fault with dissing an entire segment of your market/community/contributors just because it's convenient. Which is in many ways what the CEO of Red Hat et al. are doing. If Linux is so lousy on the desktop how come it is that I can use Linux exclusively yet work in a world where all around me are on various forms of other OS's. Basically I interpret what he said as, Thanks to your devotion over the last 8 years we have a solid product, now fsck off and don't bother us anymore. Your work, time and effort we didn't pay for, has been of tremendous value to us and we no longer think you are worth being concerned about. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not alone in this feeling. So to all former RH users Welcome to Mandrake. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] xtart and a new session
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 10:04, Bill Mullen wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, bascule wrote: is there a way to get xtart to start a session on another screen, a-la 'startx -- :1' Yes, by using Hans Updyke's modified Xtart script, myXtart: http://www.dimensional.com/~hansup/linux/xtart/ Or go here for a full explanation http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html but startx -- :1 will start a second session on f8 then startx -- :2 would start on on 9 (only if one exists on f8 btw) The limit AFAIK is 6 X sessions (f7 - f12) mainly because of keys. James It works just like the regular Xtart, but it will determine the next available display automatically, and launch your session on that. Hans is a regular contributor to the alt.os.linux.mandrake newsgroup. HTH! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (OT)Uh..... Am I alone in noticing the insanity?
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 15:49, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Fine. Do they all have root password available so they can do updates, reconfigure, build and install? These are things that are essentially handfed to windoze users. You click on an install button and app X is installed. Done. On linux this requires root. Simple enough if you are used to this but it is just another layer of complexity if you are a doze user. Sure, this admin is everyone thing is one of the primary weaknesses of doze wrt viruses, worms, and hackers, but it is easier to work with. My father can install a CD in his doze computer and click Install without problem. There would be problems if I had to walk him through setting up a root password (and remember it!), then a user password (remember it!). OK dad, setup your wireless connection. On doze this is trivial. depends on your box. On this one it won't work with doze. Does with Linux. I've gone both ways over the last 6 months. On linux it is a frickin pain in the ass (I do it, after a modicum of hair pulling but then I know what I'm doing). You download your tarball, untar it, read the readme and install files. HOPEFULLY you will simply need to do a ./configure make make install (as root) and the driver will be ready. Now you just have to either mess with ugly commands via iwpriv or ifconfig. Depends on your device. And short of the compile in doze it's buy a card. Find out that the chipset and the driver on the disk don't match. Download a new driver find out it's incompatible with your laptop. Drive to Fry's exchange and start all over. Took 3 trips to Fry's for a business partner of mine to get a working wireless in his new Dell. (and 4 calls to Dell) On my laptop it flat won't work with doze. On linux I've had 6 different cards work the same way. Plug them in. They work. (mostly ones I borrowed from friends.) OK, now setup spam filtering. Hah! Joe Blow can't handle it. WE can because we have generally been doing this for some time AND we have the time and inclination to learn all of this. Add in procmail (and the need to setup postfix or similar. Whew! Complexity beyond anything people mess with in doze). Yes, linux is great and powerful. I love it. But I would never ever be able to get my father, mother, wife to deal with all this. And ya know, you just can't always be there to deal with other people's computers all the time. My father doesn't live next door, he lives next state over. Which is why it should be on the MTA not on the box. Unless Joe/Jane Blow user has an expert somewhere, they are not equipped to deal with linux. It's just that simple. And again, how do you explain to them that they'll just have to give up the cool games if they go linux? They LOVE the games afterall. OK, just reboot to winders. Well, why not just STAY in winders so you don't have to deal with the rebooting all the time? My Mom is on Unix (70 next may) my sister and my 3 year old... just to give you the other side of the coin. (My wife won't try it. or rather doesn't know she's using it. *grin*) I merely think that for MOST people at home, linux is not there yet. For people at work or at schools where there are admins to deal with all the complexity of configuring and handling software install, it is perfectly fine, but for most at home? Nope. Not yet. The number one problem I've found with Linux is that the people advocating it (And lord knows I'm as guilty as anyone) shows people way to much. Second advantage it's already installed. This is an advantage that cannot be matched with Linux. Since rarely if ever does it come both pre-installed and working right. (Note both conditions.) I just spent 3 days working with a guy setting up filters in outlook. Thank god I use evolution, since they are so similar. 2 days on the phone, the third I said the heck with it drove to his house and we did it face to face. His XP box had been setup right. both a user and an admin (not running all the time as root like most boxes.) As for spam filtering. Can't find one that works right in windows. Just flat not fine grained enough or easy enough for someone like my wife to use/install. Some things are admin tasks and need to remain that way. No matter what OS. On Sunday 09 November 2003 11:48 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 11:02, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 09 November 2003 09:24 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Well, I gotta say that Redhat does have a point. I do think that linux is not yet ready for the everyday desktop user except for Lindows - for a relatively small subpopulation. Hmm, I disagree. My 10 and 12 year old (not to mention my wife) use Mandrake here with very few problems. Sure, my wife uses it almost exclusively for e-mail and web-browsing, but thats what the Windoze majority does anyways,
[expert] What happened to the Korean keyboard?
Trying to setup 9.1 or 9.2 for my wife in Korean and what to my wondering eyes doesn't appear. A Korean Keyboard layout in kde. Any idea what happened to it or what I have to do to get it back? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] xtart and a new session
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 18:32, bascule wrote: thanks everyone! now i have to find out why switching from the new session that i have started back to the first will freeze my display, not even ctrl-alt-backspace/delete will work, i have to alt-sysrq etc to reboot possibly the ati radeon drivers... bascule Bascule, I filed a bug report on this ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't kill X in 9.2 period. I was told this is expected behavior. Felt like saying It isn't expected by me. but I've had enough BS for a while. At any rate the only way to kill an X session is now to change to a virtual terminal and type killall X this will restart X the way ctrl-alt-backspace does in all other Linux variants. James On Sunday 09 Nov 2003 9:27 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 10:04, Bill Mullen wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, bascule wrote: is there a way to get xtart to start a session on another screen, a-la 'startx -- :1' Yes, by using Hans Updyke's modified Xtart script, myXtart: http://www.dimensional.com/~hansup/linux/xtart/ Or go here for a full explanation http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk9.2 from bittorrent
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 22:34, elPunishar wrote: hi all i just got the mandrake 9.2 CDs from bittorrent, but how can i check if these are the untampered with ISOs from madrake? i couldn't find md5 sums on the mandrake website.. ? tnx, lukas Taken from an earlier thread inset On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:45 am, Miark wrote: I got the following md5sums. Does anybody concur? 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso mine are the same. /inset Hope this helps. -James- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems, dma_intr, crc errors, crashing
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 05:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've had problems with my computer for a week or so now, and have been trying to
diagnose the exact problem. I'm not exactly sure what is the matter, but if I
relate the symptoms I hope someone will be able to assist me.
Initially I assume the fact that problems started when I began using Mandrake
9.2 is purely a coincidence.
Several weeks ago I noticed problems with applications randomly crashing, most
notably those that ran most often, eg nautilus. Sometimes even my whole system
would crash and require reboot. After a reboot I would notice that some files
were just missing (I assume corrupt). Most notably these were icon files, as I
would have desktop items without icons, but also certain application files would
be missing/corrupt.
As my main hard drive was several years old and had been getting noisier I put
it down to a bad hd and replaced it.
However even with the new drive I was getting these crashes, and they seemed to
occur more often. And when a reboot was unavoidable I would reach lilo, but then
get a message that a CRC check failed and the system was halted. This would
happen several times in a row, and after leaving the machine off for a while, it
would happily start and give me several hours before it all went to hell again.
I chated to a few friends and they suggested that perhaps my IDE cables were
getting old/damaged and needed replacing. Being the cheapest thing to replace I
did so, and this has not helped.
Sometimes I am logged into a terminal when it 'fails', and I see some sort of
buffer journal error (can't recall exact words) however sometimes I can still
type in commands, but am returned an I/O error and no programs will run - and I
can't open a new connection to my machine, I can't open a new virtual terminal
in screen, can't su to root, or even ls the directory; however last time it
happened I could cd between directories, and btlaunchmanycurses was running in a
virtual terminal and kept going, with the screen updating even.
Another possible source of errors was my RAM (3 sticks of 256MB pc133 sdram). I
installed memtest86 and tested my ram in several different patterns (all in,
only 1 in, 2 in, mixing around slots). memtest86 returned only 1 error when all
3 sticks were in - noting the error to be at 318MB - as this is more than 256,
and less than 512 I thought it was a good guess my middle stick of ram was at
fault, and pulled it. Tests on the last 2 sticks usually revealed no errors..
but now and again did.
So I borrowed a stick of working 64MB pc100 sdram from work (my mobo supports
this) and ran my system for several hours.
I worked the system hard, my swap was on the go consistantly, and I was
switching between applications, playing video files, and had firebird and
thunderbird open just to keep things active. While I received no immediate
errors I decided that I would run fsck on my partitions.
I switched runlevel into single mode, and ran fsck.reiserfs on a partition on my
brand new hard drive, and it failed with:
hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
hda: dma_intr: status=0x40 {UncorrectableError} , LBAsect=28151643, sector=6217496
I then ran fsck.ext3 -c /dev/hdb1 (this is a new-ish drive that has never seen
problems).
During the check it gave me:
hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
hdb: dma_intr: status=0x84 {DriveStatusError BadCRC}
This CRC error reminds me of the CRC error when it would fail to boot up. So I
am thinking that maybe my ram is not at fault, nor my hard drives, but that my
motherboard is.
Perhaps the IDE channels are dying, or the ram slots, or some other part of the
mobo that I just don't know enough to be able to understand the errors.
I don't know how to really test my motherboard, and I have pretty much got to
the limit of my ability to test for problems.
Can anyone offer me any advice of how to test for mobo problems? Do my errors
sound like anything you recognise?
Oh.. and no, I don't have an LG cdrom drive ;). Just a pioneer dvdrom and a
plextor cdrw.
It's starting to sound to me like PSU problems (power supply) Does
this mob/box support lm_sensors? If so install it and monitor it
heavily. Look for volatges out of range or near the edge of the range.
sounds like your PSU might be spiking either up or down and causing you
some real fun. Personally for high quality I recommend Antec PSU's.
But for cheap b##s like myself go to a local store that builds their
own boxes. Usually you can find cheap new PSU's (250-300W) for 15 bucks
or so. They came out of cases that people bought new and upgraded the
PSU for really high end graphics cards. If like me you don't do gaming
it's a great source of cheap and new PSU's.
James
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Re: [expert] Why does my sound not work?
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 02:35, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 08 Nov 2003 12:45 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 01:34, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 07 Nov 2003 9:13 am, Alexis L. wrote: Indeed, I have the same audio chip set, and after a few hours research, I eventually realized that the sound volume was set to zero in aumix.. We have to try to find a way of getting people to use the TWiki. One of the main reasons for making it was to avoid the constant FAQs. This one, for instance has been covered there for ages. What can we do the make it more visible to users? Eric is now sending out regular introductory messages to the Newbie list, but it seems that newbies are increasingly using the Expert list. Would it help to have a weekly message here as well? Any better ideas? Anne I'm trying to get it listed on linux Gazette as well as pclinuxonline. That sounds an excellent idea. Hope you manage it Anne If anyone wishes to give a here here to the pclinuxonline request the thread is here http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?mop=modloadname=Forumsfile=viewtopictopic=2342forum=6 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed.
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 08:28, Jack Coates wrote: 1st: http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to check /var/log/acpid... I just checked mine and found something spooky, which is that it's still trying to execute /usr/sbin/pmsuspend and just failing because the file was renamed /usr/sbin/pmsuspend2 (which also doesn't work to suspend the laptop). grep -r shows that pmsuspend isn't being called from anything in /etc... oh for crying out loud... acpid needs to be restarted. service acpid restart. ... Jack, Are you having one of those days :D James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why does my sound not work?
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 01:34, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 07 Nov 2003 9:13 am, Alexis L. wrote: Indeed, I have the same audio chip set, and after a few hours research, I eventually realized that the sound volume was set to zero in aumix.. We have to try to find a way of getting people to use the TWiki. One of the main reasons for making it was to avoid the constant FAQs. This one, for instance has been covered there for ages. What can we do the make it more visible to users? Eric is now sending out regular introductory messages to the Newbie list, but it seems that newbies are increasingly using the Expert list. Would it help to have a weekly message here as well? Any better ideas? Anne I'm trying to get it listed on linux Gazette as well as pclinuxonline. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Draksync with subdirs
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 10:51, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 10:33, stefmit wrote: I can't seem to be able to figure this one out: local structure: dir_1 file_1 file_n subdir_1 file_subdir_1 ... subdir_2 other_files I have setup a draksync session between my local box and a remote one, with the dir_1 as the place to start. When I had no subdirectories, everything was working fine, but once I added subdirs, then the draksync starts running, goes through some files, then - as soon as it hits the subdir_1 - comes back with a nice message telling that: file subdir_1 already exists, that has only one choice: to hit OK. After the OK, the process of sync-ing is killed. Does anybody know of a way to sync a whole tree, without dying at the first subdirectory encountered, using draksync? [OT] Does anybody have a better suggestion to sync directories over FTP, with some more reliability, and - perhaps - info? As much as I hate to say this, on my Windows machines I use http://www.vu-brief.spb.ru, and it works wonders (even multi-sites at once). TIA, Stef ftp? why not use IPX too as long as we're talking dead tech. Anyway, freshmeat for ftpmirror. The real answer is rsync. Isn't draksync a frontend for rsync? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CNN video clips
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:36, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What format is CNN using for its videos? I try to view any of them and I get an error message: Sound server warning message: mimetype text/html unsupported for streaming Huh? text/html? What's the deal with CNN? praedor RealPlayer and you have to pay to watch the video ... it's part of the RealOne program. Like ABCNews or many other sites like this. James - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/qr7naKr9sJYeTxgRAsKhAKCFE+/U48aLI1lIg2kK7QvwXtx2SgCfbIde A0gkhNn/ahTX/4TEuiNtCl8= =DOUz -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CNN video clips
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 18:58, David Guntner wrote: Tim Sawchuck grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:50:56 -0700 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: This question got me curious so I went to CNN to look. I found that you can't view any of the videos if you run any Pop-Up blockers. Or if you don't have Real One Pass. Whatever that is... It's a monthly pay as you go service for A/V content with a proprietary client that only runs on (2 points!) which OS?? Um, someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here, but I could have sworn that Real make a version of the real media player which runs under Linux --Dave Real Player 8 yes. But RealOne (RealPlayer 9) is still not here. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Konq/Moz Crash during Web Browse.
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 18:57, Rob Blomquist wrote: I have a Konq and Moz crash that really bugs me, unfortunately, I can't send you the site as it is an Outlook Webmail site, and is password protected. So don't even think about asking, as I am not giving my password out. Here's the deal: if I attempt to respond to an email, the window containing the email will crash. The main window is alive and well. Formerly, I have been able to use this site with either Konq or Moz. The site uses both Java and javascript to do its job. I have installed Kaffe to handle java requests, as I have not found a jre for Mandrake available (man, am I lazy!). I opened both from console, and only Konq gave me information: [EMAIL PROTECTED] robbo]$ konqueror kio (KDirWatch): WARNING: FAM connection problem, switching to polling. ASSERT: m_widget in kaction.cpp (2993) ASSERT: m_widget in kaction.cpp (2993) ASSERT: m_widget in kaction.cpp (2993) ASSERT: m_widget in kaction.cpp (2993) ASSERT: m_widget in kaction.cpp (2993) ASSERT: m_widget in kaction.cpp (2993) What could I do to explore this crash, or is there enough of an answer here? Rob Rob, The one thing I would try is to open it in IE or some browser that does work. Then save the page(s) to disk. Then try it locally. If it works locally it's some kind of messed up cgi, jsp or server side include. If not then check the code for personal info and send the tgz to the people at Moz and see if they have an answer. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi vs rpm
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 22:40, Rob Blomquist wrote: In a previous email Dr. Monkeynoodle spake thusly: 2 urpmi /the/rpm/you/got. Is there an advantage to urpmi-ing it rather than rpm -ivh-ing it? It seems to me that urpmi is just a searching front end for rpm. Fire away. Rob just like an rpm is nothing more than a cpio archive I guess. URPMI has the advantages most heavily in assuring that dependencies are maintained, rpms are signed, and verified. however if you've done all the leg work. You know that all of the dependencies are met and that the rpm matches your distro. You end up in the same place. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] On disapearing Menus
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 12:46, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:19:46 -0500 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: On Tuesday 04 November 2003 11:01 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: All, A while back a number of you expressed problems with disappearing menu's right after installing a new KDE or Gnome app. DEG is reporting that the problem seems to be related to cxplugin from codeweavers. Now the question comes. How many of you who have this problem are using cxplugin, or is it happening to you without cxplugin. If it is cxplugin what version are you using? I have the problem here and I'm not using cxplugin on any of my boxes. I have heard it is actually a bug in rpm that prevents the rpm database from being unlocked in time for the post-install update-menus script to be run, so you have to run it yourself. And there have been two releases of rpm to fix it. The last one came through ChangLog today, and should be on the cooker mirrors at least by tomorrow. I have very few menu problems now, compared to the first one when I moved up to 9.2 Cooker. Tim K will see if anyone else reports it then, I filed the bug... This was the info I got back. Just asking... thanks James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nows the time to Move.
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 01:00, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: James Sparenberg schrieb am Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:35:13 -0800: 2. Just what does SuSE stand for, anyway ;-) No one knows *grin* Ask someone who knows ;-) *S*ervice *u*nd *S*oftware-*E*ntwicklungs AG (Service and Software Development) wobo Wobo, Until this post there was nothing when I googled for it either. (Now there will be.) Thanks James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] On disapearing Menus
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 08:02, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 05 November 2003 09:04 am, Brian V Bonini wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 23:01, James Sparenberg wrote: All, A while back a number of you expressed problems with disappearing menu's right after installing a new KDE or Gnome app. DEG is reporting that the problem seems to be related to cxplugin from codeweavers. Now the question comes. How many of you who have this problem are using cxplugin, or is it happening to you without cxplugin. If it is cxplugin what version are you using? James hmm, not using cxplugin but I am using cxoffice. Been looking for a good reason to uninstall it however.. ;-) I don't think this is it. This is a well known bug with rpm. Greg, On my end I'm just reporting what DEG said as he closed the bug. It's #30 in anthill if intrested. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] help - my box might be a relay
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 05:50, et wrote:
do you run squid?
On Wednesday 05 November 2003 06:23 am, David E. Fox wrote:
hey - help!
it's seemingly apparent that in the last week or two there seems to
be an increasing number of mails of a dubious nature being sent to
a large number of bogus addresses by yours truly :(.
David,
The question I would have is are you actually sending them. Meaning
if some of your less enhanced friends are running windows with one of
the many virus's on the market installed it could appear like you are
sending them when if fact you aren't. Your only guilt in this case is
being in the other guys outhook excess address book.
James
I'm not a spammer but it seems that my mailing system (postfix) is
misconfigured -- but I was under the impression that postfix was
relay-proof. I have seen evidence though of some chinese sites
masquerading as m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com, probably forging headers
somewhere along the line. It further seems that mail is injected here
and then attempts are made to send the sh*t off to other places.
I have not gotten any complaints but as of now 22:30pm pst 11/4 there is
approximately 2.3 megabytes' worth of mail trying to get out.
1) I want to simply remove these messages. How do I do this? I have not yet
come across a queue removal program - like lprm - for mail. Can (or should)
I just delete all the files underneath
/var/spool/postfix/{defer,etc,deferred, etc} - i.e, keep the directory
structure intact but do somehting like
find /var/spool/postfix -type f | xargs grep rm
Is that dangerous?
Secondly, using a fairly stock configuration for postfix, is there some-
thing I've missed? I can attach my configuration if needed. I have
basically kept the same one intact since I initially reinstalled 9.0
and upgraded to various levels of cooker over the past few months.
HELP ;)
David E. Fox Thanks for letting me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk.
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Re: [expert] Laptop X/different configs
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 04:11, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 03:04, Paul Kaplan wrote: I set up 9.2 on an IBM T40, which has an ATI Radeon 7500 and in internal LCD at 1024x768. At the time I set it up, I had an external keyboard (with a built-in trackpoint AND trackpad), mouse and 1280x1024 monitor attached through a port replicator. Setup correctly detected and configured the external devices. However, when I boot the machine without being attached to the port replicator, X still presents the 1280x1024 desktop (only the upper-right 1024x768 pixels) and the internal pointing devices (a trackpoint and a trackpad) are non-responsive. how annoying. You'll need to add the extra pointing devices to XF86Config4 manually. Not sure how to do the screen size properly, but a workaround would be to do CTRL-ALT-[keypad-minus] to cycle to a lower resolution. This is not fun on a laptop keyboard (hint: numlock on, semicolon). Don't have a thinkpad but did see this yesterday on freshmeat. http://freshmeat.net/projects/cfg-thinkpad/?topic_id=146 It's a tool for configuring an IBM Thinkpad. James How do I configure X (4.3) so that it autodetects whether the external monitor and pointing devices are attached and sets the video output appropriately? TIA Paul __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nows the time to Move.
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 03:22, Charlie wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:45 pm, many eyes noted that John Wilson wrote: On November 3, 2003 08:33 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: OK, Guess what RH9 is the last Redhat distro to be released. At least as a free OS. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1371164,00.asp I recall now that Debian was going to use Anaconda as its installer and it had something to do with Arts Technica or something like that? Something along those lines. Charlie Progeny did the port. http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=7924 If you want the link Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nows the time to Move.
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 02:23, Charlie wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:33 pm, many eyes noted that James Sparenberg wrote: OK, Guess what RH9 is the last Redhat distro to be released. At least as a free OS. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1371164,00.asp For the article. After next summer they will no longer support or release patches for RH. I think someone sent me a link to an article where Fedora is shaking hands with Debian to use either each others apps or something like that? Sorry it is long gone, and I can't recall from whence it came. Charlie And to add to the confusion Novell just bought SuSE and Nestle bought google. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] minor annoyance
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 04:24, Artemio wrote: after upgrading to 2.4.22-18 the nice blue screen disappeared at startup ( the one with 9.2 in the bottom RH corner) It still starts up as graphical lilo then drops to text mode. In order to have graphical boot mode, you need to have 800x600 frame buffer mode. The installation might have changed it to other mode. Checkout your /etc/lilo.conf. My config was like this to have 800x600 mode: ... Wonder why the ability to do larger than 800x600 in fb was dropped. hmmm explains why I can't get FB on my 9.2 box when I had it in 9.1. James image=/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk_linux root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent read-only vga=788 ^^^ your vga mode ... You should have vga=788 in your boot kernel. Also, splash=silent append option changes the boot look (didn't test this - it probably changes to verbose mode just if you pressed esc). I have vga=791 for 1024x768 console, for example - just because I love the oldschool kernel boot mode :-) Good luck and hope this works for you. Artemio. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 08:01, Eric Huff wrote: This must be due to Mandrake's signing on to the LSB? Or is that something different? yup Would that be a yup to the LSB, or a yup to something different? I could be a real a$$ and just say yup here again. But it's IMHO a combination of MDK moving more in line with the LSB. and the developers recognizing that LSB is real and leveraging it. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 08:17, Artemio wrote: This must be due to Mandrake's signing on to the LSB? Or is that something different? Well, I didn't mean I had any problems compiling anything on mdk. I just say cookers must keep this good thing!!! :-) Maybe I'm not exactly correct, but there should be a binary compatibility as well. Because sometimes you have an old, old binary that you can't get sources of and it simply doesn't work - segfaults all the time. But all other binaries from rh 7.3 work fine. I have one old but great software synthesizer - juno6. It was released by some guys for free, but not opensource. It runs on redhat 7.3 perfectly but on mandrake it crashes immediately with a segfault. The difference in libs between RH7.3 (MDK 8.2 time) and now are so great as to make a number of older compiled binaries choke. The biggest difference is that RH7.3(MDK8.2) is compiled with gcc2.9x and now it's gcc3.x The incompatibility is there. Remember that the distro's aren't Linux, but rather packagers of Linux. So they are subject to the problems there. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Novell acquires SuSE!! What does this mean for Mandrake?
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 07:47, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 04 Nov 2003 3:17 pm, Robert Fox wrote: Would it have been better if Mandrake were acquired instead? Can't help but think that companies that have been acquired by Novell in the past don't appear to have had a happy future. Strange times ahead . . . Comments? Anne Anne, Ya got me thinking. And it's true. The other funny part is every time they buy a Unix product it's in the middle of a lawsuit and ends up being owned by SCO *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Novell acquires SuSE!! What does this mean for Mand rake?
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 11:02, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Franki schrieb am Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:46:23 +0800: That leaves Mandrake as the biggest contender in the desktop market.. possibly the only newbie friendly one left (apart from Lindows and Xandros, which don't have free versions to bring the newbies in...) That may be true for people who care for such issues like SuSE/Novell. Newbies who buy newbie friendly distros don't even know there may be an issue. Here in Germany, the only area SuSE plays a prominent role, SuSE will stay on top for long because it's a German speaking company, because they have an infrastructure all over the place (training centers, resellers, business consultants, etc.). It's like you open a phone directory and look for Linux, SuSE pops up in the first 200 entries. There aren't many Germans who vote for Buy German like it is in large parts of the USA but the direct contact via local phone calls and native tongue support pays out. If Mandrake could afford to establish one or two offices in Germany with German speaking supporters and sales reps, they could cut a fair share of the cake, but not otherwise. It's really amazing how many Mandrake users there are in Germany, though. Our German language MandrakeUser.de has met the 300 registered users mark after 14 days and is still growing. We had more than 3000 forum entries in 2 weeks and still growing. Maybe we can help getting some of SuSE's share. ;-) wobo Not to disagree with a single word you said, but I read an strange one the other day. Seems that the #1 distro in Russia is MDK, or variants off of it. curious. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
