RE: [expert] thinkpad 600e

2002-11-03 Thread Tim Werner
Same thing happened to me.  When I installed it, it said already
installed, but afterwards it worked where before it hadn't.

In a shell as root:

urpmi sndconfig
sndconfig


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 [mailto:expert-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Michael Holt
 Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 8:31 PM
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 Subject: [expert] thinkpad 600e


 Hey all!  I've got two questions:
 1) What happened to sndconfig in Mandrake 9?  I used to be able to get my
 thinkpad sound card configured post-install by using the sndconfig tool
 and following some instructions from the ibm website.  Now since
 moving to
 Mandrake 9, I can't seem to find the sndconfig tool.

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RE: [expert] Can't configure isa sound blaster

2002-11-02 Thread Tim Werner
Thankyou.  Thankyouverymuch.  :-)

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 [mailto:expert-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Woody Green
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 Subject: Re: [expert] Can't configure isa sound blaster

 In a shell as root:
 
 urpmi sndconfig
 sndconfig
 
 The Mandrake hardware detection routines do not do well with ISA sound
 cards.
 
 Good luck,
 
  Woody
 
 On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 21:40, Tim Werner wrote:
  My soundcard is an old ISA SoundBlaster, and Mandrake is not 
  seeing it.  Yikes!

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RE: [expert] need help to configure X

2002-10-31 Thread Tim Werner
Hmmm...  I really don't understand that.  I have a 22-inch monitor that can
easily handle 1600x1200, and the video card has 8meg of memory.  I tried
lowering the settings, though, and it didn't really change anything, except
to make the problems visually bigger.

Looks like this isn't really a mandrake problem, but X.  Do you know of a
good mailing list or newsgroup for getting help with my problem?  There must
be someone out there who has done this already.

Maybe I'll have to upgrade the video card.  For some reason I have this
obsession with using up my old hardware.  The system in question is still
using my keyboard, floppy, CD and soundcard from 1993, and the video card is
from 1998.  I hate to replace the video while I still have other stuff
that's five years older.  It's not the money, just a psychological block.
:-)


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 Subject: RE: [expert] need help to configure X


 Looks like the 1280x1024 mode is too high for your
 monitor to handle. Try changing to lower res mode to
 see if that helps (CTRL,ALT,-). Also, you are running
 at 24bit color depth. Try 16bit to see if that helps.

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RE: [expert] need help to configure X

2002-10-31 Thread Tim Werner
Well I gave it one more shot.  Did a reformat and complete reinstall,
selected generic 1280x1024@74hz monitor, then various X configurations.  The
last thing I tried was XFree-4 vesa (don't know why that wouldn't work for
me yesterday) with 16-bit color at 1280x1034, and it worked!

All is forgiven.  ;-)

MANY THANKS ONCE AGAIN.

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 Subject: RE: [expert] need help to configure X


 Looks like the 1280x1024 mode is too high for your
 monitor to handle. Try changing to lower res mode to
 see if that helps (CTRL,ALT,-). Also, you are running
 at 24bit color depth. Try 16bit to see if that helps.

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[expert] Can't configure isa sound blaster

2002-10-31 Thread Tim Werner
Hi,

My soundcard is an old ISA SoundBlaster, and Mandrake is not seeing it.  One
of the times I installed, there was a blank button for sound in the list of
peripherals, and when I clicked it said something like no sound card
detected, run sndconfig after install.  The last time I installed, that
button wasn't there.  Since then I haven't been able to figure out how to
even get the not detected error message.  When I type sndconfig at the
command line I get command not found.

Yikes!

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RE: [expert] need help to configure X

2002-10-30 Thread Tim Werner
Mike,

(BTW thanks to others who have replied, too.  I need all the help I can get.
:-)

My most recent attempt was to re-run X Config from install, using the
detected SiS card but selecting XFree-3.  This gives a screen that is now
very close to being usable.  That is, I can click on everything, but the
display only takes up 2/3 of the screen, then the right 1/3 is a frizzy
repeat of part of the main display.  Also, I get artifacts (mostly across
the top) and highlighted areas sometimes get blacked-out.  It's hard to
describe; the point is it's not really usable, although I can at least
navigate my way through most of it.  The first-time wizard was not usable,
however.  (BTW, will I be able to run that later?)

Still can't figure out how to configure the card as vesa, as you suggested
yesterday, unless I do it as XFree-4 X server.  I can try that if you think
it might yield some clues.  That will produce a log file with errors.

With the configuration above (detected SiS card and XFree-3), I don't get
any log file, presumably because X doesn't think there's anything wrong.  I
am listing the XF86Config-4 and XF86Config files below.  Please let me know
what you think, and if you can remember how to configure as generic vesa.
I'll be happy to keep trying different things as long as someone keeps
responding.  :-)

Also, I couldn't figure out where to turn off X, so that it will boot into
console mode instead of automatically starting X.  Is there an easy way to
toggle that without re-running xconfig?

Thanks again,
Tim

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 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] need help to configure X


 Tim,

 Try this to post your XF86config-4 file and xfree log file.
 [...]
 Post those two files here.


=
HERE IS XF86Config-4:
=
# File generated by XFdrake.

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

Section Files
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent
of
# the X server to render fonts.
FontPath unix/:-1
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
#DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse
doesn't work
#DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching)
EndSection

Section Module
Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
Load v4l # Video for Linux
Load extmod
Load type1
Load freetype
Load glx # 3D layer
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard1
Driver Keyboard
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout us
Option XkbOptions 
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse1
Driver mouse
Option Protocol IMPS/2
Option Device /dev/psaux
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier monitor1
VendorName Plug'n Play
ModelName NEC MultiSync FP1370
HorizSync 31-130
VertRefresh 55-160

# Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
# 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494
 563 -hsync -vsync

# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
ModeLine 768x576 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine 768x576 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier device1
VendorName Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
BoardName SiS 6326
Driver sis
Option DPMS

Option sw_cursor
# Option no_accel # Use this if acceleration is causing problems
# Option fifo_moderate
# Option fifo_conserv
# Option fifo_aggresive
# Option fast_vram
# Option pci_burst_on
# Option xaa_benchmark # DON'T use with ext_eng_queue !!!
# Option ext_eng_queue # Turbo-queue. This can cause drawing
# errors, but gives some accel
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier screen1
Device device1
Monitor monitor1
DefaultColorDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth 8
Modes 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600
640x480
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 15
Modes 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600
640x480
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 16
Modes 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600
640x480
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 24
Modes 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600
640x480
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier layout1
InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
InputDevice 

[expert] Display messed up after install

2002-10-29 Thread Tim Werner
Hi,

I installed Linux-Mandrake 9.0.  Everything went pretty smooth.  Selected
Gnome for default desktop.  After install, upon reboot got first-time (I
think) screen, to do more configuration.  This screen was unusable, because
the display was all messed up.  I had basically three vertical bands across
the screen:  red, green, and blue, I think.  On top of that, there was the
first-time screen, but it was all out of sync and mostly unreadable.  Also,
I couldn't find the mouse pointer anywhere on the screen, not that there was
really anything to click on.  I had to use the cpu reset button to quit the
screen.

Since then, when I boot I go right to desktop, but the screen is still
messed up.  The left-hand third of the display is repeated in the middle and
right sides of the screen, and it's kind of wavy and unreadable in places.
On that screen, I was able to find the mouse pointer and get to a menu item
called action-logoff (I think that's what it was), but that's all.

I picked all the defaults, except I took 1280x1024, instead of 1600x1200,
for display res.

Has anyone seen this?  Where do I go from here?  I uninstalled Mandrake, and
will re-install soon, but what do I do different, or if I end up with the
same thing, how do I troubleshoot?  The installation guide doesn't seem to
cover my case.

Is there a better place to ask this question?

My system is
motherboard:  GVC-VP1541
cpu:  AMD-K6P2/350
video:  SiS 5598/6326
PCI bus 1, device 0, function 0
monitor:  NEC MultiSync FP1370


Thanks,
Tim

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RE: [expert] Display messed up after install

2002-10-29 Thread Tim Werner
Mikko,

Thanks for the info.  ML9.0 install didn't give me many options -- it seemed
to be making most decisions for me.  I was surprised, in fact, that it
installed boot manager with linux as default without even asking.  I
couldn't figure out how to change the default OS later, which is why I had
to uninstall.

I'll give it another try, and see if there's some way to pick the X version.
It's a shame they would be dropping support for perfectly good hardware that
isn't that old.  :-(

I was running Slackware in '93, on a 486 box, and I liked it a lot, but I
started to get busy with the Windows side and when I got a new system in '98
I didn't want to go through all that pain again, and have been admiring
Linux from afar since then.  Mandrake has been getting a lot of good press
about ease of use.  I was hoping I wouldn't be spending a lot of time
fiddling with X config files etc., especially since my video card was (I
thought) kind of generic.

It took me two weeks to download 9.0 over my dial-up connection.  Don't
think I want to go through that again to get 8.2.  :-)

Anyway, I'll give it another shot.  Thanks again.

Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:expert-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Mikko Lipasti
 Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] Display messed up after install

 On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 16:15, Tim Werner wrote:
  Hi,
  the display was all messed up.


 You probably got gdm/kdm login screen. Sounds like poorly supported
 video controller.

 From http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status30.html#30

 --- [quote] ---
 30. Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)

 3.3.6:

 Support (accelerated) for the SiS 86C201, 86C202, 86C205, 86C215,
 86C225, 5597, 5598, 6326, 530, 620, 300, 630 and 540 is provided by the
 XF86_SVGA server with the sis driver.

 4.2.1:

 Support (accelerated) for the SiS 530, 620, 6326 is provided by the
 sis driver. The 630, 300, and 540 are also supported, but this code is
 new and there are some problems with it in this version.

 Summary:

 Support for the 86C201, 86C202, 86C205, 86C215, 86C225, 5597 and
 5598 is currently only available in 3.3.6.
 --- [end quote] ---


 You specify the display driver as 5598/6326. Seems to me that 5598 isn't
 supported by XFree86-4.2.1, which is the default (right?). However, 9.0
 does provide XFree86-3.3.6, which supports them both.

 At least Mandrake 8.2 install asked which X version to install when
 installing in Expert mode. I haven't checked if this is still the case
 with 9.0 installer, but you should try it.

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RE: [expert] Display messed up after install

2002-10-29 Thread Tim Werner
Mike,

Thanks for the info and advice.

I tried re-installing in expert mode, which allowed me to configure the boot
manager, so that part I'm happy with.

As far as X is concerned, right now it's pretty much a disaster.  I tried
all sorts of configurations, and I either get a test screen that doesn't
work, or I get an error message about no keyboard configured, or other
confusing error, and a suggestion that I should try to change some
parameters.

Any attempt to select XFree3 resulted in suggestion to try some other
parameters.  Same thing with attempt to select XFree4 with VESA.  Just about
the only config that actually resulted in a test screen was the one with my
actual SiS card (as auto-detected)

[emotional outburst on]
Apparently Xfree is still not ready for prime-time, which is a little
discouraging to me.  This really isn't any easier than it was 9 years ago.
From the mailing list and other linux-centric web sites that I've been
reading, I can tell that a lot of other people are at least able to get the
desktop up and running.  I really expected to get past this point before I
started running into trouble.  :-(
[emotional outburst off]

Not sure where to turn at this point.  I seem to have a combination of bad X
support for my video card, and Mandrake X-configuration bugs.  Probably I'll
have to wait until broadband becomes available in my area and try redhat or
else the next rev of mandrake.  Maybe after a nap things will seem different
and I'll try something else.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:expert-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Mike Morrell
 Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [expert] Display messed up after install


 I find that the VESA driver usually works on XFree4.x
 on the unsupported cards. No acceleration though and
 not sure if you can go bigger than 1024x768. You can
 change your default boot OS by editing the
 /etc/lilo.conf file. Change the line with
 default=linux to default=windows or whatever the label
 is for that partition. See the man page for lilo.conf.
 Also, make sure you run lilo from the command prompt
 after you edit the file to update the boot sector.
 Hope this helps.


 --- Tim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mikko,
 
  Thanks for the info.  ML9.0 install didn't give me
  many options -- it seemed
  to be making most decisions for me.  I was
  surprised, in fact, that it
  installed boot manager with linux as default without
  even asking.  I
  couldn't figure out how to change the default OS
  later, which is why I had
  to uninstall.
 
  I'll give it another try, and see if there's some
  way to pick the X version.
  It's a shame they would be dropping support for
  perfectly good hardware that
  isn't that old.  :-(
 
  I was running Slackware in '93, on a 486 box, and I
  liked it a lot, but I
  started to get busy with the Windows side and when I
  got a new system in '98
  I didn't want to go through all that pain again, and
  have been admiring
  Linux from afar since then.  Mandrake has been
  getting a lot of good press
  about ease of use.  I was hoping I wouldn't be
  spending a lot of time
  fiddling with X config files etc., especially since
  my video card was (I
  thought) kind of generic.
 
  It took me two weeks to download 9.0 over my dial-up
  connection.  Don't
  think I want to go through that again to get 8.2.
  :-)
 
  Anyway, I'll give it another shot.  Thanks again.
 
  Tim
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:expert-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf
  Of Mikko Lipasti
   Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:23 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [expert] Display messed up after
  install
 
   On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 16:15, Tim Werner wrote:
Hi,
the display was all messed up.
 
  
   You probably got gdm/kdm login screen. Sounds like
  poorly supported
   video controller.
  
   From
  http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status30.html#30
  
   --- [quote] ---
   30. Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)
  
   3.3.6:
  
   Support (accelerated) for the SiS 86C201,
  86C202, 86C205, 86C215,
   86C225, 5597, 5598, 6326, 530, 620, 300, 630 and
  540 is provided by the
   XF86_SVGA server with the sis driver.
  
   4.2.1:
  
   Support (accelerated) for the SiS 530, 620,
  6326 is provided by the
   sis driver. The 630, 300, and 540 are also
  supported, but this code is
   new and there are some problems with it in this
  version.
  
   Summary:
  
   Support for the 86C201, 86C202, 86C205,
  86C215, 86C225, 5597 and
   5598 is currently only available in 3.3.6.
   --- [end quote] ---
  
  
   You specify the display driver as 5598/6326. Seems
  to me that 5598 isn't
   supported by XFree86-4.2.1, which is the default
  (right?). However, 9.0
   does provide XFree86-3.3.6, which supports them
  both.
  
   At least Mandrake 8.2 install asked which X
  version to install when
   installing in Expert mode. I

RE: [expert] Display messed up after install

2002-10-29 Thread Tim Werner
Mike,

Thanks for your encouragement.  I would indeed like to spend more time on
this if I can get some help with it.

I had to return the video card on my first PC system (it was a Diamond
Viper) for an ATI Mach32, for just the reason that Diamond considered their
specs to be proprietary and thus no one could write a linux driver for it.
At the time, I sent the Diamond people an email letting them know that I had
to return their card because they couldn't be supported by linux.  I'm sure
they couldn't have cared less; I never heard back from them.

It always irked me that the Mach32 card wasn't quite as snappy under Win3.1
as the Viper card, but at the time I felt the little sacrifice in Windows
performance was worth it, because I was running Unix at home!

I'd forgotten all that.  Now you mention it, I have to admit the situation
hasn't really changed.

At any rate, if you could tell me how to generate it, I'd be happy to post
the xfree log file here.  I have been able to log in as root without
starting X, and can do ls and cd commands, but that's all I remember, so
far.

Thanks,
Tim

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 Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [expert] Display messed up after install


 I agree that XFree is still not as bullet proof as it
 should be. This is probably mostly due to the lack of
 card/chipset data from the video card makers as well
 as just the pure difficulty in writing drivers. There
 are lots of cards that are working well and I would
 suggest to anyone that wants to try Linux that they
 check into hardware support and stick with the most
 popular mainstream hardware because that gets the most
 attention from developers and testers. I know this
 does not help you. Sorry. If you still need help and
 you can manage a command line, I suggest that you post
 your xfree log file here. Maybe we can give you some
 hints.


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[expert] need help to configure X

2002-10-29 Thread Tim Werner
Hi,

I'm still trying to get my PCI SiS 5598/6326 video card to work on ML9.0.

Yesterday Mike suggested that I configure it as 'vesa', but from the X
Configuration install step, that selection is only available under XFree-4.
I tried it anyway, and got the following errors:
 (EE) no core pointer device specified
 (EE) Unable to determine the screen layout

I also tried choosing XFree-3 server SVGA, and got the error
 Config error /etc/X11/F86COnfig.test:10

I also booted into console mode and ran xf86config.  I think I entered the
right numbers, but couldn't figure out how to get XFree-3 to run.  Startx
seems to run XFree-4, and I get the same errors (no core pointer, etc.) as
when I tried to configure at install time.

Can anyone 'splain to me how to configure X to let me use the card
generically?  This is frustrating, since I really only need the same kind of
resolution that the install program has.  Everything looks hunky-dory until
I configure X.  How do I get X to use the same video mode as the
installation program?

I found a framebuffer HOWTO that seems to list my card as VESA 2.0
compliant, but I don't understand how to use the info in the document to
make a xconfig file, or to pick the right arguments for startx.

Thanks,
Tim

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