Mike,

Thanks for the info and advice.

I tried re-installing in expert mode, which allowed me to configure the boot
manager, so that part I'm happy with.

As far as X is concerned, right now it's pretty much a disaster.  I tried
all sorts of configurations, and I either get a test screen that doesn't
work, or I get an error message about "no keyboard configured", or other
confusing error, and a suggestion that I should try to change some
parameters.

Any attempt to select XFree3 resulted in suggestion to try some other
parameters.  Same thing with attempt to select XFree4 with VESA.  Just about
the only config that actually resulted in a test screen was the one with my
actual SiS card (as auto-detected)

[emotional outburst on]
Apparently Xfree is still not ready for prime-time, which is a little
discouraging to me.  This really isn't any easier than it was 9 years ago.
>From the mailing list and other linux-centric web sites that I've been
reading, I can tell that a lot of other people are at least able to get the
desktop up and running.  I really expected to get past this point before I
started running into trouble.  :-(
[emotional outburst off]

Not sure where to turn at this point.  I seem to have a combination of bad X
support for my video card, and Mandrake X-configuration bugs.  Probably I'll
have to wait until broadband becomes available in my area and try redhat or
else the next rev of mandrake.  Maybe after a nap things will seem different
and I'll try something else.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:expert-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Mike Morrell
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [expert] Display messed up after install
>
>
> I find that the VESA driver usually works on XFree4.x
> on the unsupported cards. No acceleration though and
> not sure if you can go bigger than 1024x768. You can
> change your default boot OS by editing the
> /etc/lilo.conf file. Change the line with
> default=linux to default=windows or whatever the label
> is for that partition. See the man page for lilo.conf.
> Also, make sure you run lilo from the command prompt
> after you edit the file to update the boot sector.
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> --- Tim Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mikko,
> >
> > Thanks for the info.  ML9.0 install didn't give me
> > many options -- it seemed
> > to be making most decisions for me.  I was
> > surprised, in fact, that it
> > installed boot manager with linux as default without
> > even asking.  I
> > couldn't figure out how to change the default OS
> > later, which is why I had
> > to uninstall.
> >
> > I'll give it another try, and see if there's some
> > way to pick the X version.
> > It's a shame they would be dropping support for
> > perfectly good hardware that
> > isn't that old.  :-(
> >
> > I was running Slackware in '93, on a 486 box, and I
> > liked it a lot, but I
> > started to get busy with the Windows side and when I
> > got a new system in '98
> > I didn't want to go through all that pain again, and
> > have been admiring
> > Linux from afar since then.  Mandrake has been
> > getting a lot of good press
> > about ease of use.  I was hoping I wouldn't be
> > spending a lot of time
> > fiddling with X config files etc., especially since
> > my video card was (I
> > thought) kind of generic.
> >
> > It took me two weeks to download 9.0 over my dial-up
> > connection.  Don't
> > think I want to go through that again to get 8.2.
> > :-)
> >
> > Anyway, I'll give it another shot.  Thanks again.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:expert-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf
> > Of Mikko Lipasti
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:23 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [expert] Display messed up after
> > install
> >
> > > On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 16:15, Tim Werner wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > the display was all messed up.
> >
> > >
> > > You probably got gdm/kdm login screen. Sounds like
> > poorly supported
> > > video controller.
> > >
> > > From
> > http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status30.html#30
> > >
> > > --- [quote] ---
> > > 30. Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)
> > >
> > > 3.3.6:
> > >
> > >     Support (accelerated) for the SiS 86C201,
> > 86C202, 86C205, 86C215,
> > > 86C225, 5597, 5598, 6326, 530, 620, 300, 630 and
> > 540 is provided by the
> > > XF86_SVGA server with the sis driver.
> > >
> > > 4.2.1:
> > >
> > >     Support (accelerated) for the SiS 530, 620,
> > 6326 is provided by the
> > > "sis" driver. The 630, 300, and 540 are also
> > supported, but this code is
> > > new and there are some problems with it in this
> > version.
> > >
> > > Summary:
> > >
> > >     Support for the 86C201, 86C202, 86C205,
> > 86C215, 86C225, 5597 and
> > > 5598 is currently only available in 3.3.6.
> > > --- [end quote] ---
> > >
> > >
> > > You specify the display driver as 5598/6326. Seems
> > to me that 5598 isn't
> > > supported by XFree86-4.2.1, which is the default
> > (right?). However, 9.0
> > > does provide XFree86-3.3.6, which supports them
> > both.
> > >
> > > At least Mandrake 8.2 install asked which X
> > version to install when
> > > installing in Expert mode. I haven't checked if
> > this is still the case
> > > with 9.0 installer, but you should try it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mikko Lipasti
> > > Polarcom Consulting Oy
> > > :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > :: +358 (0)40 5590 988
> > >
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