[expert] Any harm in upgrading? (Rpm question)
Often, when I update something, like for example Mozilla's 1.6 alpha is out, and I want to install it. It comes with its own installer. When I try to remove Mozilla 1.3 that comes with Mandrake 9.1, it gives me a warning that galeon and other tools are using mozilla 1.3. Can I safely assume that I can use the --nodeps option and bypass these warnings, since I intend to install the updated version of the same program a few minutes later?I have been doing that, but I have a nagging doubt about it! thanks! -turgut -- Turgut Kalfaoglu http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr Linux: There is worse, but it costs more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Crashes during libgl initialization
I noticed that when I install/remove things, like I just installed bittorrent; that glxinfo and any other GL program crashes; and won't go beyond the 'initializing the libgl.so.??' step. I dont know what causes this, but exiting 'x' and doing: cd DRI-CVS/build/xc make install cures it! Until it happens again a few installs later. :( any ideas why? Thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Infrared things
I recently installed the irda package(s) from Mandrake 9.1 CD's. However at boot time, I see briefly something like: is not a valid infrared driver, pick one from this list: .. .. (a dozen or so driver names listed) I did not find anything related to it in the menus, nor does anything exist in harddrake or other configuration utilities, it seems. Oh, this is for an IBM Thinkpad R40, btw.. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] glxinfo crashes; and solution.
This morning, after doing an RPM -U of xine and its libraries, I noticed that kwrite would not work, nor would glxinfo ; it crashed at startup. I noticed that /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGLwrapper?? something. I had the CVS-copy of DRI XFree86, so I did a make install, and I have the utilities back working; that is, direct writes enabled, glxinfo working, etc. I just wondered why my libGL got pointed to that "wrapper" whatever it was.. now I see that /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.2 PS: Xine is excellent :) -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Laptop X/different configs
I recently installed Mandrake 9.1, DRI, wine, etc, to my Thinkpad R40, and here is the config that enables ALL things to work -- a USB mouse, the touchpad and the trackpoint.. also has Direct screen writes enabled (check with glxinfo; if disabled, you'll have lousy game performance). I have the display at 1400x1050.. here is my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (Probably has some useless lines; but it doesnt hurt) # File generated by XFdrake. # ** # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** Section "Files" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:-1" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" #DontZap # disable (server abort) #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" # 3D layer Load "dri" # direct rendering # Load "ddc" Load "int10" Load "record" Load "speedo" Load "vbe" # EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "Keyboard" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbCompat" "" Option "XkbOptions" "" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse2" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "PS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Emulate3Buttons" Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "Flat Panel 1400x1050" HorizSync 31.5-90 VertRefresh 59-75 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine "1024x480"65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "ATI" BoardName "ATI Radeon" Driver "radeon" Option "DPMS" Option "AGPMode" "4" # Option "UseFBDev" 0" # Option "AGPFastwrite" 1" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Mouse2" "SendCoreEvents" Screen "screen1" EndSection -- Turgut Kalfaoglu http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr Linux: There is worse, but it costs more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Where can I get mandrake precompiled kernels .config files?
Btw, for those who are interested in getting the leanest kernel possible, may wish to investigate compiling your own kernel; it's not hard. I was surprised how "loaded" the precompiled kernels are. Of course it makes sense, it needs to work with all possible hardware configurations. Most of the stuff is loaded as modules (loaded as needed); but some stuff cannot be made as modules; so those get built into the kernel. -turgut -- Turgut Kalfaoglu http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr Linux: There is worse, but it costs more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?
/mnt/cdrom *IS* your CD-ROM drive. its size varies depending on what type of CD you insert just then. to copy a CD, you can use a mkisofs or something to create an ISO out of it; or use the TAR or some other command to compress the whole thing into a file. -turgut Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Odd message during shutdown..
Many thanks, everyone! -turgut Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] upgrading mandrake's kernel
Thanks for the suggestions; I ended up downloading Mandrake Cooker 2.4.22 from rpmfind.net , and confuguring it to death.After removing all the modules that I'll never need, the startup time of the machine has halved. (understandably, Mandrake installs almost everything, and whenever possible, as modules.) It's very stable; and runs well.. -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Odd message during shutdown..
When I do a shutdown -h now, I get the usual mesages, plus some more: (writing all this from the top of my head): it first says: Sending all processes the TERM signal.. ;2R (note the ;2R on the second line. It just waits now, i hit ENTER, and I get something like: 'bash: invalid parameter ;' or something. I actually get the $ prompt and after I type a few lines, it resumes. I did an RGREP for this string, did not find it under /etc..! Any ideas? -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Solved: Direct Rendering
After working on it for many days, I was able to fix my "Direct Rendering" problem after a clean install of Mandrake 9.1, followed by a kernel upgrade to 2.4.22. Previously, I was trying to get DRI to work under 2.6.0test7 kernel, which I believe has serious problems with DRI, and I would be amazed and in awe if anyone has gotten that combination to work. After I re-installed Mandrake 9.1, I upgraded its kernel from source of plain-vanilla 2.4.22, which disabled the DRI. Binary distribution of DRI did not help; it just complained that my AGP heap was too old. I already had the DRI-CVS tree on my disk, I just re-did the kernel modules with make -f Makefile.Linux and manually copied radeon.o to /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/char/drm Upon restart, I had my DRI working again. Btw, the hardware is an IBM Thinkpad R40 with 1400x1050 X resolution. -turgut -------- Turgut Kalfaoglu http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] upgrading mandrake's kernel
I am reinstalling 9.1 on my Thinkpad laptop; and I noticed the old problem; that you cannot enable the IDE DMA with my setup; hdparms just says operation not permitted or something. I was wondering what is the best way to upgrade to a newer kernel, say 2.4.22 ? Does Mandrake use a patched the kernel, or is it 'plain vanilla' as found at www.kernel.org? Can I just download the new one from kernel.org, make xconfig, install, and let it rip? Thanks, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] FYI: If DRI causes you troubles..
Here is some blurb I found on the net, if there are other sufferers like me: Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:27:40 +0200 From: Felix Kühling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Robert Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], dri-devel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Dri-users] Mandrake 9 issues and solution (plus minor bug report). Hi all, D S and I discovered that Mandrake 9.0 includes Gatos code in their Xserver. I think this is the reason for the problems Mandrake 9.0 users are experiencing with binary snapshots. Up to now the only solution seems to be to compile DRI yourself. A suitable custom binary snapshot (if anyone wants to make one) would probably have to replace the 2D ati drivers with clean (non-gatos) ones. Best regards, Felix On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 17:20:17 -0400 Robert Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've noticed some people saying that it's almost impossible to get DRI Running on Mandrake 9. Well, they're right. *Almost* impossible. The hardware: Athlon 2000+ (1.6G). Radeon 8500 (Identified as 'ATI Radeon 8500 QL'). Standard Mandrake .19-mdk-whatever kernel. DRI Does Not Work with Mandrake 9 out of the box. glxinfo will not say Yes to direct rendering no matter what you do. The first issue was an inability to insert the kernel module, due to unmet dependencies. I've had this happen before with mandrake Kernels, so I installed a clean 2.4.19. After recompiling, I re-inserted and started on the long and strange saga of SegV's when starting X. After reading some hints on the users lists, it was mentioned that GCC 3.2 is shipped with mandrake, and for those that don't know, it's pretty much binary-incompatible with things compiled with previous versions of GCC. Current State: Clean 2.4.19 kernel, gcc 3.2. I had to download the DRI X source, and compile and install the X Server. The module inserted cleanly, and, X started up, to my surprise. I was getting quite sick of having to reboot the machine 8-) I'm quite happy to package up a set of binaries if anyone wants them - but, someone will need to tell me which, specific, binaries are going to be needed 8-) The bug report I mentioned. In the source package, 'xf86cfg' is trying to link to libXpm.a -- this doesn't exist in the source, nor does it seem to exist anywhere in the Mandrake distribution (much to my surprise). I ended up making an empty libXpm myself, and sticking it in /usr/lib, and that seemed to work. (For those that want to do it themselves -- root# touch foo.c root# gcc -c foo.c root# ar -r /usr/lib/libXpm.a foo.o ) There are some c++ files, that try to be compiled with 'c++' - there is no such beast (this, I think, is a mandrake-ism. There should be.) - only g++. Mandrake users: ln -s /etc/alternatives/g++ /etc/alternatives/c++ fixes it. A 'make World' should then quite happily work, without any errors. A 'make install' installs everything in the right place, -except- for the kernel module. ./build/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel/radeon.o (or whatever your kernel driver should be) should be copied to /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel -- it doesn't matter where you put it, depmod -a sorts it out. A 'startx' will then fire up X, and 'glxinfo' now reports: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DRI]# glxinfo name of display: :0.0 Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 r200CreateScreen display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: [...etc etc etc...] [EMAIL PROTECTED] DRI]# glxgears Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 r200CreateScreen 8001 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1600.200 FPS 8123 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1624.600 FPS 8146 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1629.200 FPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] DRI]# Pre DRI, it was 500 FPS. I am -totally- unclued on Imakefiles, so I daren't even try to submit a patch, but hopefully the information above will be enough to get people up and working! --Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] how to restore startx
After my last attempt at accelerated DRI, I believe I have 'defaulted' my startx; so that I get a default X desktop. I can type gnome-panel and kdesktop and get back the functionality; almost; but still a few things missing. SO, I was wondering if anyone had the default startx , or perhaps point me to the RPM or name of the script that creates it during Mandrake 9.1 install? thanks, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Xfree86 desktop went to "default X11"
I believe during my attempts at enabling DRI (I installed Free86-DRI with make World/make install), I have wiped my desktop settings; so that when I startx now, I get 3 windows, and a clock in the corner; nothing else. Does anyone know what I would need to re-install from the CD to get the default KDE desktop back? thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Why not use the default directories?
A general comment: Why doesn't Mandrake, when it's building a new version, does not use the default installation directories of each package? Because otherwise, when we reinstall it, we have a chance of ending up with two versions of the same files! -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Automount missing
Hello James; indeed it's Supermount that I meant, sorry about that. I am now using 2.6.0test7-bk8. I tried the supermount enable command but it did not seem to do anything. Thanks! -turgut On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 23:54, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > > Hi there. After upgrading my Mandrake's kernel, I realised that I no > > longer had automount (no big deal actually; I wrote a two-liner to mount > > the CD-ROM), but it would be nice to have it back. Any ideas on how to > > re-install Automount into the kernel? > > > > Thanks! -turgut > > > If by automount you mean supermount (They are different is why I'm > asking) could you let us know 2 things what the rpm name is of the new > kernel you have and what version you are on. > > Also does > > supermount /mnt/cdrom enable > > > get it back for you? > > James > > > > - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mandrake 9.1 reboot problem?
That reminds me - a Thinkpad P40 will not power off either with ACPI nor with APM. It just gets stuck after Linux shuts itself down, and displays 'power off'. This is under 2.6.0test7. -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Automount missing
Hi there. After upgrading my Mandrake's kernel, I realised that I no longer had automount (no big deal actually; I wrote a two-liner to mount the CD-ROM), but it would be nice to have it back. Any ideas on how to re-install Automount into the kernel? Thanks! -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
Sure; it's a P4 running at 2GHz; ATI radeon 7500 32MB DDR video , 256M DDR ram, 40G disk. ICH4 AC97 sound chip, 82801BD ethernet. slamr winmodem (driver works well now; I did a few patches myself :) firewire and USB ports, DVD+CDW combo.. -t On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:19 pm, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > > I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did upgrade its > > kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut > can you give some more info on cpu, chipset, video system? > -- > L.V.Gandhi > 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 > MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA > http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ > > > - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Wine and OpenGL issues
Thanks - I tried wineX, but I realised I was having better luck with wine itself. I reinstalled DRI (straightforward, but takes a long time), and Wine's CVS version. Now I have halflife in a 1024x768 window running at 60fps; and kazaalite++ at the same time. What's great about linux is that this combination never ran this well under native windows xp :) it would always stutter and make the game unplayable. I'm in heaven! -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Wine and OpenGL issues
Thanks "darklord", If I can't get decent performance out of regular wine, I may have to pay for the wineX. Until then I'll struggle :) In any case, yesterday I re-built DRI (Xfree86 that is). It took ages (for some reason its make program starts at the beginning after a failure; and I had a few compilation failures; usually simple things like they put a library file into the wrong directory ,etc) but I finally got 'direct rendering: Yes' in glxinfo. I will update Halflife today to its most recent version and then try again. Thanks for letting me know of WineX.. -turgut On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Monday 13 October 2003 04:37 am, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > > Hi there - I just installed the CVS version of wine, to my Mandrake 9.1 > > (with kernel 2.6.0test7), and noticed that OpenGL applications complain > > that 'that mode of openGL is not supported', regardless of which mode I > > use! > > > > Are there any known issues with our version of XFree86 or Wine perhaps? > > Thanks, -turgut > > > > - > > Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com > > EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr > > Have you tried WineX? Works great with OpenGL apps here... > > -- > > /\ > Dark> \/ > > > - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Wine and OpenGL issues
Hi there - I just installed the CVS version of wine, to my Mandrake 9.1 (with kernel 2.6.0test7), and noticed that OpenGL applications complain that 'that mode of openGL is not supported', regardless of which mode I use! Are there any known issues with our version of XFree86 or Wine perhaps? Thanks, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] thinkpad buttons; how to enable them?
Hello - I was wondering how to enable the thinkpad buttons under Mandrake 9.1 ? Things like volume control and screen brightness settings do not seem to function under X. Any ideas? Thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] ATI Radeon 7500 performance
Hi - my laptop (Thinkpad R40) has an ATI Radeon 7500 built-in. My aim is to use Windows' OpenGL applications under Wine, with decent visual performance. I have so far upgraded my kernel to 2.6.0test5 (due to the DMA-Off problem of the default Mandrake 9.1 kernel), downloaded the CVS version of Wine, and recompiled it with --with-opengl option. it all works well, except the application complains that my XF86+Mesa+Dri (which all appear to be loading correctly) does not support that mode of OpenGL; regardless of the mode I chose. I tried downloading "radeon" snapshot from DRI, but install.sh complains that Rules.Make cannot be found. If I omit that from Makefile, it burps about something else; oh yes, missing version.h I think. Any ideas what else to try? Thanks! -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake 9: Thinkpad R40 and DMA xfers
Testing with hdparm, I found that use_dma was off, and enabling it gives an error with Thinkpad R40. I would like the tenfold increase in disk transfer speed; can anyone assist on how to achieve that? Thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] I dont want to boot Windows!
I have dual boot on my laptop, and I'd really like to stick to Mandrake 8 Right now, I dual boot when I have to type something in Turkish and print it from our NT-controlled printer. Two things: 1) Character set; I use Star Office on the Linux side, and I can't get Turkish characters. 2) Printer. When I print from Linux, the thing prints like a low-res graphical picture; and the output is too ugly to be sent off to a customer. Any *pointers would be appreciated on how to solve these problems. Thanks a lot, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] segmentation fault
Try http://www.segfault.org ; a great site :) -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Abraham Mandac wrote: > I don't know if this is a stupid question: > What exactly is a segmentation fault? >
Re: [expert] Re: [newbie] free news group servers
> You can find lists of open news servers at http://www.newzbot.com huh? I wasnt aware that someone was giving NNTP feed for free on the net. Is anyone aware of anywhere giving a full feed for free? -turgut
Re: [expert] Id "x" respawning too fast, throttled for 5 minutes
No problem, many thanks.. this machine did not need X anyway; so I just disabled it from /etc/inittab -- thanks for pointing out that that's where it was coming from.. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Id "x" respawning too fast, throttled for 5 minutes
After upgrading a machine to 8.0 (I chose the upgrade button during install), I'm getting this message, "Id "x" respawning too fast" the interesting thing is, it's really an "x", not an ID number or anything! So, how can I tell which process is respawning too fast? Many thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] INETD hangs
A customer's server is doing odd things; at startup it says: Starting INET Services. and gets stuck there, for good it seems, until you do a CTRL-BREAK, etc. It displays [FAILED] and goes on.. When the machine comes up, there is no 'inetd' running. So, you start inetd manually from a command line, and it gets stuck there, you never get the prompt back. tail /var/log/messages displays nothing unusual, and the machine can be pinged; and can resolve hosts (has valid /etc/resolv.conf) Hellp! -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Mandrake 8 dies on batteries
The other day I was using my laptop, and the power went out, I kept using it, in a few minutes, the whole machine froze up; not even a mouse was stirring :) ALT-Fx wouldnt do anything, I had to power down. I tried again, same results. I have the "pci bus power saving" thing turned off, and I still experience this. Any ideas? Btw, it's a Thinkpad A20m (P3, 600) -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] sockets refusing to die
One of our Mandrake 7.2 servers has a very bewildering habit. A particular application, an Ultima Online game actually, if it's crashed or killed, the sockets that it had connected stay open, sometimes for 20 minutes or more. Doing a "socklist | grep 2593" shows it like: tcp 2593 0 0 00 tcp 2593 0 0 00 meaning, no application name next to them, but they linger for forever. Naturally, ps aux | grep wolfpack (wolfpack is the name of the Ultima Online game) shows nothing. How can I close these sockets, so I can restart the game? (if I restart the game before the sockets close, I get a 'cannot bind' error). Many thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] Resizing / partition
Partition Magic 5 can resize Linux partitions as well. I use it quite often, for exactly the same reason. -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] ATI Radeon
Andreas: I had to go to the 3.x Xfree86 to get decent performance out of ATI Mobility of my laptop. Perhaps you need to too. It was not easy, but it works well now. Full-screen 3d apps still crash the machine, but windowed apps work much faster now.. -t - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Oscar wrote: > Maybe 3D acceleration (which is used by tuxtracer) is not supported by > Xfree86-4 for this ATI chipset. But I suppose it's supported by Xfree86-3-3-6. > On the other hand, Xfree86-4 seems to have better 2D acceleration (good for > your desktop). > Salu2, > Oscar. > > El Jue 28 Jun 2001 08:58, escribiste: > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have have a ATI Radeon 32 MB. > > Tried to activate hardware acceleration, but failed. > > Load module agpgart -> success > > Load module radeon -> success > > Load glx and dri within the module section of XF86Config-4 > > glxinfo says: Direct rendering "yes" > > I fired up tuxracer -- without any failure messages -- and ... slow, as > > slow can be. > > I am using XFree86-4.0.3 and choose experimental support for my graphic > > card. > > > > Can anyone give me a hint? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Andreas >
[expert] mounting a tape!
Did anyone succeed in NFS sharing a tape and mounting that share from another machine? I'm trying to make a backup from a machine that doesnt have a tape drive to another, that does. I have the tape in EXPORTS, but I get "not a directory" blurb when I try to mount it; it seems I need to first mount that tape locally on the machine that has the tape; but it refuses to be mounted as well :) any ideas how? Thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] / gets smaller and smaller !
Actually, I have everything in other partitions, so the / partition should, in theory, not grow at all. I have /usr , /var , /home in other partitions. Even /tmp is at /var/tmp.. Really odd.. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr > > I just rebootd out server, and noticed something really odd. the root > > partition was full before the reboot, showing 100% in use, and no > > free sectors in "df" . After reboot, it says its only 20% full (!) > > but I noticed that its creeping back up, its now at 38%, and free sectors > > decreasing! > > > > The machine has Mandrake 7.1 on it, and has 5 disks - 2 IDE, 3 SCSI. > > The SCSI disks are mounted to the root partition, like > > mount /dev/sda1 /scsi1 > > mount /dev/sdb1 /scsi2 > > mount /dev/sdc1 /scsi3 > > > > Any ideas? > > Many thanks, -turgut > > Just a thought, but a reboot usually clears /tmp files (can't remeber when > Mandrake started with that, I noticed it in 7.-point-something though). > If /tmp is mounted under root maybe something is writing there? > Another thought is have you got the mother of all logging happening > (webserver, squid, etc) and the cron job at startup is rotating it out >
[expert] / gets smaller and smaller !
I just rebootd out server, and noticed something really odd. the root partition was full before the reboot, showing 100% in use, and no free sectors in "df" . After reboot, it says its only 20% full (!) but I noticed that its creeping back up, its now at 38%, and free sectors decreasing! The machine has Mandrake 7.1 on it, and has 5 disks - 2 IDE, 3 SCSI. The SCSI disks are mounted to the root partition, like mount /dev/sda1 /scsi1 mount /dev/sdb1 /scsi2 mount /dev/sdc1 /scsi3 Any ideas? Many thanks, -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] Need Whois Server for venus3.ttnet.net.tr
It's Turkish Telecom's own dialup thing. ill managed and configured; we get spam thru it. Try www.telekom.gov.tr , and good luck. -turgut On Thursday 14 June 2001 16:42, Albert E. Whale wrote: > I am investigating the connecting ISP for a Domain called > venus3.ttnet.net.tr. I am unable to resolve this Domain via the > traditional whois venus3.ttnet.net.tr command. > > What host should I direct my whois query to in order to resolve this > domain registration? > > -- > Albert E. Whale - http://www.abs-comptech.com/aewhale.html > -- > ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - Computer & Networking Specialists > Sr. Network, OpenView and Systems Consultant > > ANCE Managed Services, Inc. - http://www.ancegroup.com > Vice President -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Graphical printouts - unwanted!
This is odd; here is my setup: We have an HP IIIsi printer on a machine. I have KDE finally set up right so KMAIL would print to it. However, when it prints, the text is printed faintly, the gray background is printed, so it's a mess. Any ideas how to get a decent clean printout? Thanks, -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] Most Popular Linux Broswers
> > Hello, > > What about Grail...? the holy one? :) Never heard of the Grail.I have Mozilla and NS loaded. is Grail worth a spin? -t
[expert] cute RPM output..
[root@tk-laptop RPMS2]# rpm -e kdebase-devel-2.1.1-13mdk.i586.rpm error: package kdebase-devel-2.1.1-13mdk.i586.rpm is not installed [root@tk-laptop RPMS2]# rpm -i kdebase-devel-2.1.1-13mdk.i586.rpm package kdebase-devel-2.1.1-13mdk is already installed now what :) -t -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] !automount and now !vfat
On Wednesday 06 June 2001 18:03, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Wednesday 06 June 2001 08:17 am, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > > I cant figure this out; it seems I lost the ability to mount the CD's > > automatically. Was it part of the kernel? I upgraded my kernel.. > > How do we enable it again? Interestingly, make modules does not build supermount.o; it kinda ignores that subdirectory it seems. doing a make in that subdir also fails. Thus, I can't enable supermount. It also turns out that the things in /etc/fstab that are of type VFAT are also not loaded; things like /mnt/win_c and /mnt/win_d are not mounted. typing mount -av also totally ignores those lines. While building the kernel, I did specify VFAT amongst the file systems. -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] how to enable automount ?
I cant figure this out; it seems I lost the ability to mount the CD's automatically. Was it part of the kernel? I upgraded my kernel.. How do we enable it again? Thanks! -t -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] More printing blues..
I use LPD on an OS/2 machine to print. that OS/2 machne, in turn, prints it via netBEUI to an NT machine. (This was the only way, without spending months on it, to get printouts). The thing is, when I print from applications, like Netscrape (!) or Kmail; I get the background printed; and the foreground is printed in a very faint color. So, it's a mess, you can hardly read it. Any ideas how to fix it? Any ideas why printing on Linux is so difficult? :( -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] Installing MSWord 97 using Wine -- How?
That reminds me: Doesn't Star Office support anything but Postscript? We have a HP Laserjet IIIsi on an NT machine (the only NT machine we have; and that's all it does; manage that printer :) Crashes, reboots, etc) We have an LPRD on ANOTHER machine (running OS/2, and passes the job coming from the Mandrake boxes to the NT machine via netBEUI; dont ask me why we did it this way, but it works :) but I could not figure out how to define an HP LJ IIIsi (non PS) to Star Office. I can print from other apps, like Netscape or Mozilla. Help :) -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] root, running low on space
hi there.. on a machine of ours, the / root partition is running low on space. I have everything else on their own parttiions, like /usr , /home and /var , but the remaining part ( /etc, etc!) is still too much for the root partition.. any ideas how I can "enlarge" this partition somehow? Would Partition Magic 5 help? I have that here.. It's a server machine, so I dont want to mess it up too badly :) -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] Stability Concerns
I'd hate to append to a "me too" series; but just to say that Mandrake 8 for me, is ROCK SOLID. No problems.. (Hardware: Thinkpad A20m) -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] OpenGL on full-screen
Greetings. In order to get 3D acceleration of ATI Mobility to work, I installed the older XFREE. Works great now - I have "gears" speed in excess of 300FPS. However, the games that come with 8.0 that require full-screen crash the machine - with vertical blue lines running on an otherwise dark screen. No CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE nor C-A-D can save the machine; the only thing that works is the Big Reg Switch.. Any ideas what I should check? Thanks, -turgut
Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 vs 7.2 with mouse!
Great; glad you got it to work; I just copied the resulting kernel as a new file within the /boot directory, like cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/bzImage /boot/kernel.2.4.4 (I made up the kernel.2.4.4 name; I'm very creative when it comes to filenames :) then went into /etc/lilo.conf and changed the image name, like boot=/boot/vmlinuz to boot=/boot/kernel.2.4.4 and re-ran lilo. and it has been smooth sailing.. Upon reboot, I realised I had not included FAT32 support; so I re-did the MAKE XCONFIG step, followed by make bzImage, and it Lived Happily Ever After! -turgut
Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.4 !
perhaps you did not include something that your hardware needed, like IDE drives? Also, did you do that bit about "links to the header directories must be symbolic links".. On my Mandrake 8, they were not symbolic, they were real directories! -t ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr On Fri, 11 May 2001, A. Rick Anderson wrote: > Following the directions in the README, I > make config > make dep > make bzImage > According to the README, you're supposed to replace the exisiting kernel > image with the new image. But the current image is simple a link to > vmlinuz in /boot. So I copied the new image to /boot/vmlinux-2.4.4 and > moved the link from linuz-2.3... to the new kernel image. > > Now my machine won't boot off of the new kernel. Fortunately, I had my > recovery disk, but I obviously missed a step in there somewhere. > > At 03:15 PM 5/11/2001 +0300, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > > >A success story: Kernel recompilation is very easy! I just did it :) > >It comes with a great README, and I just followed it. > >I had to re-install my linmodem (Thinkpads are blessed with linmodems!) > >but that was the only thing. > > > >..and my Trackpoint mouse now works :) > > > >Thanks to everyone that helped! > >-turgut > > > >- > >Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com > >EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr > >All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr > > > >On 11 May 2001, Bartlomiej Muryn wrote: > > > > > On 10 May 2001 16:05:21 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Can anyone offer an *easy* solution to the trackpoint mouse in > > Mandrake 8 > > > > (Trackpoint mouse is seen as a PS/2 mouse in Windoze) ? I'm getting tired > > > > of lugging the serial mouse around :) > > > > > > > > Thanks, -turgut > > > Yes - download the original kernel from www.kernel.org - compile it and > > it will work automatically... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > _4ever_ > > > > > > >
[expert] Kernel 2.4.4 !
A success story: Kernel recompilation is very easy! I just did it :) It comes with a great README, and I just followed it. I had to re-install my linmodem (Thinkpads are blessed with linmodems!) but that was the only thing. ..and my Trackpoint mouse now works :) Thanks to everyone that helped! -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr On 11 May 2001, Bartlomiej Muryn wrote: > On 10 May 2001 16:05:21 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Can anyone offer an *easy* solution to the trackpoint mouse in Mandrake 8 > > (Trackpoint mouse is seen as a PS/2 mouse in Windoze) ? I'm getting tired > > of lugging the serial mouse around :) > > > > Thanks, -turgut > Yes - download the original kernel from www.kernel.org - compile it and it will work >automatically... > > > > -- > _4ever_ > >
Re: [expert] LM 8.0 -- WINBOND/SMSC IO detection error in console
Benjamin: That must be the serial drivers coming to life.. nothing to worry about, and you dont have to do a CTRL-C; just keep typing; those are just messages being blurted out; I get them too.. -t - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] What to do with Trackpoint Mouse in Mandrake 8?
> Yes - download the original kernel from www.kernel.org - compile it and it will work >automatically... Many thanks! is there anything I should watch out for? I never built a kernel before! thanks, -turgut
[expert] What to do with Trackpoint Mouse in Mandrake 8?
Can anyone offer an *easy* solution to the trackpoint mouse in Mandrake 8 (Trackpoint mouse is seen as a PS/2 mouse in Windoze) ? I'm getting tired of lugging the serial mouse around :) Thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] here now, gone tomorrow..
I solved it; actually, you guys solved it. The 'XFdrake -expert' command did the trick; I chose the hw accelerated 3.3.6 again, and the next time I started X, I had my FPS way up again! Thanks a lot, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] here now, gone tomorrow..
At next reboot, the "gears" has slowed down from 300.000 FPS down to 100.000 FPS again! I just installed a few games and gcc in between those two reboots! I dont understand what's going on. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Success: Re-install of Mandrake 8
Just a big thank you to all those that helped; I now have Xfree3.3.6 running on my laptop, with hardware acceleration. After I reinstalled Mandrake in Expert mode, it asked me which Xfree I wanted; and I proudly chose the old one :) I'm big BIG on astronomy, and openuniverse now works beautifully! -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Trying to install Xfree 3.3,6 so I can have hardware accel.
Out of curiosity: is it possible to have Mandrake 8.0 install Xfree 3.3.6 instead of 4? I'm reinstalling mandrake 8 from scratch, because I uninstalled Xfree 4, and I have spent 3 days so far, and I'm unable to get Xfree 3.3.6 to work. Always something conflicting, and I still dont have it working. Anyway, back to the partitioning, as they say. I have a fond memory, that while I had Mandrake 8 running, and I asked for a resolution change, it said "You can have hardware acceleration with Xfree 3.3.6", and I had said YES to that prompt. It then went on to install some additional RPMs. At a later reboot, nothing had changed; I was still at Xfree 4! -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr On Wed, 9 May 2001, KompuKit wrote: > Well...I finally upgraded...to 8.0 from 7.2 > and I love it...great job mandrake !!! > > everything went without a hitch...except one thing... > I bought a CD set from cheapbytes... > so, I assume they are the download version. > > I have a Pentium 233 MMX, 64 mg Ram > Installed 8.0 on a Maxtor 20 gig HD > (dual booting with a 8.4 gig HD maxtor win98) > > Before upgrading...I bought a > Creative Labs ModemBlaster 56k external modem > model DE5625 > it worked fine under 7.2...and windows.. > but now, I can't seem to get it to work under 8.0 > > I placed the same info...for connection just as I did in 7.2 > ...it trys to connect...I see the lights flashing on the modem.. > but when it gets to a certain point... > ( I think it's when it says LOGGING ON TO NETWORK)... > it disconnects...and gives me an error 16 (whatever that is..) > I double checked all the settings...to make sure I have them right... > and try again...to the same thing.. What's happening here...? > > why can't I connect...? > -- > <* http://www.kompukit.com ***> > Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ALT: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org >
Re: [expert] mouseconfig: requires a mouse :)
> Installation using keyboard was a pain but I found that we can "jump to > the next steps of installation using F12 key so doing severaltimes this > I made this installation working... Yes, otherwise I would not have been able to install Mandrake. (text mode crashes; graphical interface wont let you use TAB or arrows at some dialogs) F12 was god-sent. > Anyway mouse was not detected even after recompilation of kernel - I had > to download original kernel and install it to have my psaux port > working! Ah, which kernel do you mean, the same one that comes with Mandrake 8.0 ? I might try that myself now; I'm getting sick of this serial mouse dangling from my thinkpad :) thanks, -turgut
[expert] DRI installation fails
Greetings; well, I updated my ati drivers; and now the XFree is too old for it; I guess there is no escaping from the DRI compilation. Actually, compilation went great, but during make install, I'm getting an odd error. Does anyone have any ideas? Btw, I have installed the kernel-sources already; will all its dependencies; like bison, curses-devel libs, etc.. -turgut Many thanks, -turgut install -c imake /usr/X11R6/bin/imake install in config/imake done make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/dri/xc/xc/config/imake' installing in config/makedepend... make[3]: Entering directory `/root/dri/xc/xc/config/makedepend' gcc -O2 -ansi -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wm issing-declarations -Wnested-externs -pipe -g -I../../config/imake -I../../inc lude -I../../exports/include/X11 -I../.. -I../../exports/include -Dlinux -D__i 386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D _SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c -o include.o include.c In file included from def.h:25, from include.c:26: ../../include/Xos.h:35:25: X11/Xosdefs.h: No such file or directory In file included from def.h:25, from include.c:26: ../../include/Xos.h:317:23: X11/Xarch.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [include.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/dri/xc/xc/config/makedepend' make[2]: *** [install] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/dri/xc/xc/config' make[1]: *** [install] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/dri/xc/xc' make: *** [install] Error 2 [root@tk-laptop xc]# - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] mouseconfig: requires a mouse :)
On Wednesday 09 May 2001 07:38, you wrote: > Mouseconfig is a text based program you run from a term: no need for a > mouse. Mousedrake is a different program .. a gui thing that may indeed > require a mouse. > True - I believe mouseconfig is "clever" enough that, if running under X, launches mousedrake -- which requires a mouse to navigate :) -t
Re: Fwd: Re: [expert] Dismal Graphics performance in Mandrake 8
> In the config file: > Load "glx" > Load "dri" Thanks; I had: Section "Module" Load "dbe" I added the two items you mentioned, restarted X, Afterwards "gears" still shows around 129.000 FPS. Would it be wise to rpm -e the XFree86 items and re-install the XFree 4 again? > then of course make sure that the config is using the correct driver. What should I look for to ensure that the right driver is being used? (Last night I downloaded the "full" snapshot of DRI, did the MAKE WORLD thing, went well, but during MAKE INSTALL it complained it could not find some header file and died.) Many thanks, -turgut
Re: [expert] mouseconfig: requires a mouse :)
On Tuesday 08 May 2001 16:42, you wrote: > not true! just use your keyboard's TAB key and the ARROW keys to > navigate, and ENTER to select a mouse. Well, in my case, it was not possible. no key combination could get me to the ENTER option, or even make any difference in the dialog box that was asking me to chose one. -turgut
Re: [expert] segmentation fault: seems like memory is missing asthe installcrashes
On Tue, 8 May 2001, Rusty Carruth wrote: > Turgut Kalfaoglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I get an interesting message (see Subject) while installing Mandrake 8 > > on my Thinkpad A20m from scratch (it's NOT an upgrade). First off, as you > How much memory does it actually have? 192MB. Never had any hardware problems with the laptop. -turgut
[expert] Dismal Graphics performance in Mandrake 8
I wonder if I did the right thing.. I have the ATI Rage Mobility chipset. It got successfully detected; but any application that uses the libGL runs in slow motion now :( It seems to be suffering from software rendering. How can I convince XFREE to use the 3D features of my laptop? Thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Mandrake 8 installation on A20m
I finally managed to install Mandrake 8 via keyboard; trackpoint not being detected anymore with Mandrake 8. Some menus definitely have problems; TAB or any of the keys do not work at some dialogs. Fortunately F12 key happens to do something; and I was able to bypass some things with it. I could not escape from the SCSI dialog, nor from one of the printer dialogs. The reboot went well, and I have a graphical interface. still mouse does not move.. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] mouseconfig: requires a mouse :)
just a blurb that mouseconfig program (mousedrake) requires a mouse to navigate the dialogs! :) -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] segmentation fault: seems like memory is missing as the installcrashes
I get an interesting message (see Subject) while installing Mandrake 8 on my Thinkpad A20m from scratch (it's NOT an upgrade). First off, as you know, the mouse does not work, so I'm using the 'text expert' mode of install, and after I pick the options I want from the installation menu, meaning: Internet station, Network computer, configuration, console tools, game machine, utilities.. and I hit OK, I get that message, and machine dies. -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] refreshing new error: Konqeror :)
Nice to see a different kind of error message :) Today Konqueror is giving me this: (I entered www.google.com in the Location box) Warning - Konqueror "Open 'http://www.google.com' using Konqueror?' [Save to Disk] [Open][Cancel] naturally, I hit OPEN, and it gives: "Error - Konqueror There appears to be a misconfiguration. You have associated text/html, but it cant handle this file type." I do remember tinkering with File Associations last night; in order to get Konqueror to handle HTML's after having Netscape 6 start when I try to open up the HOWTO's, maybe that corrupted something? -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Knode ?
This is odd; when I use Knode, the news reader, it shows all articles as 'missing'. I click on any article and it says missing. It used to work fine, but it "deteriorated" over time. It used to be that some articles were fine, others were missing; now they ALL seem missing. I even set the expiry settings to just 1 day, and still it lists hundreds of messages; and none of them have any bodies. Netscape 6 is able to read those groups and fetch the articles without problems, however. -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] ALSA sound in new kernel
On Wednesday 02 May 2001 19:22, you wrote: > Turgut, > I am having exactly the same problem, with my ThinkPad 1400. The soundcard > worked fine with kernel 2.2.17, but when I upgraded to 2.2.19, it stopped > working. The modules load with no errors that I have found, but I still > have no sound. I am seriously thinking of going back to the 2.2.17 kernel. Great idea, and great relief to hear that it's the kernel and not my stupidity :) Um, how does one go back to the old kernel? thanks, -turgut
Re: [expert] sound and the new kernel on IBM laptops (A20 or 1400)
Dave: The only different is that /proc/asound/cards says --- No Sound Card in my case. I have a nagging suspicion about two things: 1) I/O / IRQ conflicts (I dual boot to WindozeME for games; and that has no problems with our Crystal Sound chip) 2) Older snd-card-cs46xx or other drivers lingering at other directories, and being used, instead of the newer ones. No idea what to do next. Dont even know how to go back to the old kernel :) (Darn, and I had just gotten the linmodem to work too!) -turgut On Thursday 03 May 2001 05:38, Dave Sherman wrote: > It appears Turgut and I share the same (or similar) problem. As I have > noted in previous posts, my own alsa sound driver appears to be loading > properly during boot, yet I have no sound. When I try > /etc/rc.d/init.d/sound restart > I get several OK responses as the mixer settings are saved, the sound > driver unloads and then reloads, and the mixer settings then reload. > > /var/log/messages shows no errors during loading of alsa sound driver and > mixer settings. > > When I run lsmod, my output is almost exactly the same as Turgut's (quoted > below). > > When I launch RealPlayer as a user, I get the error > "Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it." > But when I run it as root, I get no such error message. However, sound > still does not work. > > /proc/asound/cards correctly shows my sound card. > > I ran sndconfig, but it told me my card is not supported -- same as > Turgut, and we both had working sound before the "upgrade" to kerner > 2.2.19! > > Any experts out there who might be able to help? > > Dave > > > Greetings. Ever since I upgraded to the new kernel, 2.2.19-4 (?) , > > whatever was available on the MandrakeUpdate, I lost the sound support > > on the Thinkpad A20m. I also lost the modem support, but managed to get > > that back :) > > > > Kernel RPM installation went fine, as outlined by that 'security' web > > page of Mandrake, but still sound is lost. I since uninstalled alsa > > drivers with rpm -e, and installed the newer tarball. I still have no > > sound, meaning things complaining about "cannot open /dev/dsp" > > > > lsmod shows: > > Module Size Used by > > snd-pcm-oss34032 0 (autoclean) (unused) > > ppp_deflate40896 0 (autoclean) > > bsd_comp3904 0 (autoclean) > > ppp20496 0 (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp] > > slhc4480 0 (autoclean) [ppp] > > ltmodem 349856 0 (autoclean) > > lockd 45456 0 (autoclean) (unused) > > sunrpc 61648 0 (autoclean) [lockd] > > ds 6384 2 > > i82365 22272 2 > > pcmcia_core45760 0 [ds i82365] > > usb-uhci 19056 0 (unused) > > usbcore43536 1 [usb-uhci] > > snd-mixer-oss 8720 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] > > snd-cs46xx 67184 0 (unused) > > snd-rawmidi11072 0 [snd-cs46xx] > > snd-seq-device 3920 0 [snd-rawmidi] > > snd-pcm46400 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-cs46xx] > > snd-timer 9280 0 [snd-pcm] > > snd-ac97-codec 18128 0 [snd-cs46xx] > > snd28800 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cs46xx > > snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec] > > soundcore 2608 0 [snd] > > nls_cp437 3920 4 (autoclean) > > vfat9648 2 (autoclean) > > fat31776 2 (autoclean) [vfat] > > supermount 13072 2 (autoclean) > > > > .../proc/asound/cards says 'there are no soundcards' > > > > if I do a alsasound restart , this is what I get: > > # /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound restart > > Shutting down sound driver: /usr/sbin/alsactl: error in loading shared > > libraries: libasound.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file > > or directory > > snd: Device or resource busy > > done > > ALSA driver is already running. > > > > Any ideas? Thanks, -turgut > > > > > > -- > > EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr > > All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr > > > > --- -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] samba trouble
On Thursday 03 May 2001 01:26, Joshua Rodman wrote: > * kaab kaoutar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010502 11:00]: > > HI guys! > > I'm still having trouble with samba! Join the club! I was never able to get Samba to Print on a Win NT print server (that's all our NT machines are good for). Samba/Cups is too complicated for mere mortal! -turgut
[expert] ALSA sound in new kernel
It seems impossible to get alsa sound working in Thinkpad A20m with the new kernel (.19). I think I tried everything now; it appears to load, but artsd fails to start with /dev/dsp cannot be opened, although I have snd-pcm-oss mentioned in modules.conf, and I even tried modprobe manually for it. I give up :( -t - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] XF86 died today.
No idea why; today startx refuses to start, and /var/log/messages showed it complaining about two things, missing 100dpi font directory, and cant locate module binfmt-. Indeed, I did not have that 100dpi directory. Well, I reinstalled the 100dpi font from the CD, and it did not help. I re-installed the XF86 server, and now I'm a happy camper, X works again. Last night I was tinkering with reinstalling Mesa-3, I wonder if that caused it. I'll never know :) -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] sound and the new kernel
Many thanks for the sndconfig; unfortunately it displays that my Cirrus Logic|CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] is currently NOT supported, and quits. sigh. and I used to have sound when I first installed 7.2. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Mandrake 8 on a Thinkpad a20m
First impressions of Mandrake 8 install (machine: Thinkpad a20m, Mandrake 7.2 with updated kernel and botched sound is installed) Booted from CD-ROM.. * Trackpoint does not work (worked fine in Mandrake 7.2) regardless of which mouse you pick. Further, if you pick any of the bus mouses; it complains about "unknown device atibm (caller is install_steps_gtk:/usr/bin/perl-install/ install_steps_gdk.pm:192)" Chose "No Mouse" option. * Machine locks up at the "The DrakX Partitioning wizard found the following solutions", if you hit ENTER on "use existing partition" * Second time around, it passed that stage, I chose to keep the partitions and not format them either. It then croaked at: "unable to open /mnt/var/lib/rpm/Packages" More to follow if I can get beyond :) -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] sound and the new kernel
Oh, many thanks! I was totally unaware of "depmod -a" command. I tried that, and afterwards did a /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound restart and it complained about the same thing. argh. I dont seem to have a sndconfig program anywhere on the disk.. Btw, I did not build a kernel; I simply did an rpm -i of the new kernel file.. Sigh. Maybe I ought to try Mandrake 8 instead! -turgut
[expert] sound and the new kernel
Greetings. Ever since I upgraded to the new kernel, 2.2.19-4 (?) , whatever was available on the MandrakeUpdate, I lost the sound support on the Thinkpad A20m. I also lost the modem support, but managed to get that back :) Kernel RPM installation went fine, as outlined by that 'security' web page of Mandrake, but still sound is lost. I since uninstalled alsa drivers with rpm -e, and installed the newer tarball. I still have no sound, meaning things complaining about "cannot open /dev/dsp" lsmod shows: Module Size Used by snd-pcm-oss34032 0 (autoclean) (unused) ppp_deflate40896 0 (autoclean) bsd_comp3904 0 (autoclean) ppp20496 0 (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp] slhc4480 0 (autoclean) [ppp] ltmodem 349856 0 (autoclean) lockd 45456 0 (autoclean) (unused) sunrpc 61648 0 (autoclean) [lockd] ds 6384 2 i82365 22272 2 pcmcia_core45760 0 [ds i82365] usb-uhci 19056 0 (unused) usbcore43536 1 [usb-uhci] snd-mixer-oss 8720 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] snd-cs46xx 67184 0 (unused) snd-rawmidi11072 0 [snd-cs46xx] snd-seq-device 3920 0 [snd-rawmidi] snd-pcm46400 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-cs46xx] snd-timer 9280 0 [snd-pcm] snd-ac97-codec 18128 0 [snd-cs46xx] snd28800 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cs46xx snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec] soundcore 2608 0 [snd] nls_cp437 3920 4 (autoclean) vfat9648 2 (autoclean) fat31776 2 (autoclean) [vfat] supermount 13072 2 (autoclean) ./proc/asound/cards says 'there are no soundcards' if I do a alsasound restart , this is what I get: # /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound restart Shutting down sound driver: /usr/sbin/alsactl: error in loading shared libraries: libasound.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory snd: Device or resource busy done ALSA driver is already running. Any ideas? Thanks, -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] RPM vs ./configure, make, make install
>From time to time I download new packages, install them, and run against conflicts, with future makes complaining that I have TWO versions of the same thing installed. I suspect one was installed by Mandrake 7.2, and I blindly installed another one with Make install. I have since learned to do an rpm -e --nodeps before doing a make install, but is this the best way, could it break things in the long run? For example, Mesa, or Alsa drivers. What is the 'recommended way' to upgrade things? Thanks, -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Sound weirdness with Thinkpad A20m
Sound is doing really weird things lately; (that's on top of xfs that refuses to start at init time; I just put an xfs & in 'startx' to start it manually; no idea why it doesn't work at boottime!) At startup, it plays the sound at about 1/10th the speed; with a distortion that would make electro-guitar amps green with envy! You try playing an MP3 file, and you get something like 'BBRRAA' instead of the first syllable of the song! The laptop also get stuck at boot time sometimes when it's about to load the crystal sound module. Any ideas what's going on? Thanks, -turgut
[expert] Upgrade from 7.2..
I'd like to upgrade my laptop from 7.2 to 8, but, is it safe? Would I lose Netscape settings, Kmail emails? Knode groups? Installed apps in /usr/local/ with various libs? Thanks, -turgut -- EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com
[expert] X, dead
Today X would not start, giving an error 111, indicating an xfs failure. Indeed, if I do /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs start it says starting xfs [OK] but ps ax shows that xfs never started.. interesting, xfs & starts it fine.. BUT, I also had to edit XF86Config to indicate the port number (7001 ?) otherwise it still would not work. Any ideas why xfs fails to start automatically and I had to change the -1 port number? Thanks, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Kmail and offline browsing
If you are on a dialup and using Kmail to process your mail, after you send a mail, and if you are not on the net just then, Kmail will keep "bugging" you, saying cannot connect to SMTP server, every x minutes, for each message you composed. -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Mandrake Update on 7.2
Mandrake update is too frustrating to use.. As a mortal user would, I clicked on SELECT ALL (which doesnt work, btw, unless if you first click on one of the items listed) and clicked on DO UPDATES. It gave me a warning about one of the packages, I clicked on FORCE. It gave me a page of errors from rpm, blah blah conflicting with blah blah. I think Mandrake Update needs more intelligence to figure out these conflicts. If it's a new lib* it needs, it should fetch and install it FIRST, before attempting to install an application, for example. -turgut
[expert] KMail
Hi there. I think 7.2 is the best thing since sliced bread. I do have a question, tho: It seems KMAIL cannot display some graphical formats; GIF/JPG or BMP. Which application, either bundled or downloadable from somewhere, is best to associate to these file formats? BTW, I have switched to KMAIL for most of my emailings now; it's excellent.. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] I give up on linux
I think that guy deserves Windows.. Maybe then he'll realise that perhaps something is wrong with his hardware instead. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] SOF and mandrake 7.2
Um, how can we play SOF or Halflife under Linux? Thanks, -turgut EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Gnome+Enlightment=blank desktop
I realised that some of the blank desktop was due to my ignorance, some of it still persists. When I do a startx , I get a message saying 'enlightment starting', and then I get a blank screen. I didn't realise I could get an option menu with the MIDDLE button. The options there have most of the applications listed; under MandrakeMenu heading. I still do wish I could add icons to the desktop, or even to the pop up menu somehow! I went into MandrakeMenu -> Configuration -> Other -> MenuDrake and added the item for Star Office that I just installed. Although I did select SAVE, the Star Office item does not show up anywhere.. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Gnome, blank desktop
Well, I installed 7.2 on a blank disk (I actually reformatted 7.1 and installed 7.2 on it). I chose to install Gnome and Enlightment to try it out, but did not choose KDE. Now when I do a startx, I get a totally blank desktop; except for the virtual desktop switcher in the corner. When I right-click, I get the Settings for many things... Is there an easy way to "populate" my desktop ? Many thanks. -turgut EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Thinkpad A20m , mandrake 7.1
Just a heads-up that IBM Thinkpad A20m hangs 50% of the time during a linux boot, getting stuck at the line where it suppose to load the sound card's driver.. (CS something.. I forgot the number!) Power off is the only remedy.. -turgut EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] logrotate
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:24:52 -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: >Yeah, use an ftp client (ncftp, etc.) and connect to a mirror, >download the updates, then run "rpm -Fvh *.rpm" and upgrade the >packages. Very easy. Oh, thanks. I tried ftp.mandrake.com, found NOTHING, not even a text file of explanations, so I was baffled. I'll try one of its mirrors.. thanks, -turgut EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] logrotate
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:45:33 -0400, Bill Shirley wrote: >rm -Rf /var/log/news /var/log/mail >mkdir -m 755 /var/log/news /var/log/mail Many thanks Bill and others for helping out! Two servers are now happy, with a cron job to delete all files from the mail and news directories. Of course, that is not a cure; does anyone know how servers without X can use MandrakeUpdate, or how else can I patch these servers? Thanks, -turgut EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] logrotate
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Ron Johnson, Jr. wrote: > > [root@db2 mail]# rm * > > bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long > Divide and conquer: > rm [Aa]* > rm [Bb]* > rm [Cc]* I wrote a C program that would create a batch to do just that: rm mail.err.%d.gz.%d.gz.%d.gz.%d.gz* where each %d goes from 1 to 9.. If I reduce it by 1 %d.gz, I get the Argument List too long. It's naturally quite inefficient, takes hours to run. I was hoping there was a Unix utility that would delete all files without first expanding the parameters.. =turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] logrotate
Let's assume that you have successfully ignored the patches, and announcements, and ended up with a system (Mandrake 7.1) that has over 5 MILLION files on its /var/log/mail and /news directories. Let's also assume that when you type: [root@db2 mail]# rm * you get: bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long any ideas what you can do to save your servers? :) Thank you! -turgut PS: 5 million files is an estimate. ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Upgrade from Suse 6.1..
Does anyone know how feasable it is to upgrade a Suse machine (production!!) with the new Mandrake? Would things crash and burn? :) Thanks, -turgut EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Big Problem: RPM -e lx_suse
On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 12:06:40 +0200, Jean-Louis Debert wrote: >> Now, it won't let me install lx_suse again, saying: >> # rpm -i lx_suse.rpm >> /usr/src/linux is not empty >Just try rpm -U (for Update) Many thanks for the feedback; I tried that, it gives the same error. I even tried it with --force and --nodeps options.. -turgut EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.