Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 4:45 pm, you wrote: > did you see this one Anne , this list is a bit weird at the moment > > Richard > > -Forwarded Message- > > > From: Ronald J. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD > > Date: 30 Sep 2003 09:02:09 -0400 > > > > On Tuesday 30 September 2003 08:56 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > I need to record some of my vinyl collection as wav files to > > > burn onto audio cd. So far I haven't found anything that is > > > actually reading the input, either from the soundcard direct or > > > from the Audigy front panel. > > > > > > Some time ago someone mentioned the diskwriter plugin for xmms. > > > Can someone give me the file name? I don't seem to have it > > > installed, and can't find it on the list. > > > > > > Is diskwriter likely to help me? > > > > > > Anyone able to suggest a better route? > > > > > > Anne > > > > Anne, urpmi gramofile and check it out - its what I just recently > > used to convert some 20 year old cassettes that I had. ;-) > > > > -- > > > > /\ > > Dark> > \/ No, I didn't see it. Thanks for sending it on. I got LVG's though. Before I saw this I had found an article on Gramofile through google, so I've installed it. I'll also take a look at LV's suggestions of audacity and rezound. But the first need is to actually get the sound in. What can I use that will give me some feedback as to whether it is actually hearing anything? It's too time-consuming to keep attempting a recording when you don't know whether there's anything there in the first place. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 12:06 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > No, I didn't see it. Thanks for sending it on. I got LVG's though. > Before I saw this I had found an article on Gramofile through google, > so I've installed it. I'll also take a look at LV's suggestions of > audacity and rezound. I used rezound to edit stuff - its pretty awesome - keep in mind it works out of the box with ogg but you'll have to install Lame to work with mp3s. > But the first need is to actually get the sound in. What can I use > that will give me some feedback as to whether it is actually hearing > anything? It's too time-consuming to keep attempting a recording > when you don't know whether there's anything there in the first > place. > > Anne Oh - I used a component cassette player with right and left RCA jacks, via a cable that ended in the 1/8 inch mini-plug needed for the line-in jack. With aumix up, and line-in set to RED (which in this case means go, not stop) I could hear the music playing, even before recording. You should be able to hear the music you are feeding in, if not something is not turned on/connected right. HTHs! :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 05:06:47PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > No, I didn't see it. Thanks for sending it on. I got LVG's though. > Before I saw this I had found an article on Gramofile through google, > so I've installed it. The nice thing about gramofile is that it has filters to get rid of the cracking noise of old records and that its track detection algorithm works rather well. I was pleasantly suprised when I used it to digitalize some old tapes. I'll probably do some LPs as well, or at least some highlights, to get them to ogg-vorbis for "on the road"[0]. At home, LP still rules supreme. > But the first need is to actually get the sound in. What can I use > that will give me some feedback as to whether it is actually hearing > anything? It's too time-consuming to keep attempting a recording > when you don't know whether there's anything there in the first > place. When you use the line-in connection of your sound card, chances are that you will be able to hear it in the speakers of your computer already - it seems to be the default mixer setting on most systems. If you don't fire up the mixer program of your choice (aumix, kmix, gmix, to name but a few) and fiddle with the settings for line-in. You'll need the mixer anyway with gramofile, to set a decent recording level as to avoid clipping (=too hard) and noise (=to low). Also, be aware that most standard PC sound cards don't produce very high quality recordings. It's probably good enough for most things, but if you're a very critical listener, don't expect the same level as from really good HiFi equipment. I actually bought a Turtle Beach Tahiti just for that purpose (quite cheap these days, as it's ISA), which is great - very low noise and good Analogue to Digital convertors, but depending on what you want to accomplish, that might be overkill... :-) Cheerio, Thomas [0] Toshiba Librettos are cool... ;-) -- - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org "You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 9:36 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 4:45 pm, you wrote: > > did you see this one Anne , this list is a bit weird at the moment > > > No, I didn't see it. Thanks for sending it on. I got LVG's though. > Before I saw this I had found an article on Gramofile through google, > so I've installed it. I'll also take a look at LV's suggestions of > audacity and rezound. > > But the first need is to actually get the sound in. What can I use > that will give me some feedback as to whether it is actually hearing > anything? It's too time-consuming to keep attempting a recording > when you don't know whether there's anything there in the first > place. You should have the output from vinyl player to go to line-in of your soundcard. In sound mixer(like Kmix) you should select line-in for recording purposes. If the speaker is connected to speaker/lineout port, then if you play the player, you should get sound from speaker when the OS is working. For this no sound s/w(playing or recording) need to run. If not then there is problem with /dec/dsp or /dev/sound/dsp -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 09:06, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 4:45 pm, you wrote: > > did you see this one Anne , this list is a bit weird at the moment > > > > Richard > > > > -Forwarded Message- > > > > > From: Ronald J. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD > > > Date: 30 Sep 2003 09:02:09 -0400 > > > > > > On Tuesday 30 September 2003 08:56 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > I need to record some of my vinyl collection as wav files to > > > > burn onto audio cd. So far I haven't found anything that is > > > > actually reading the input, either from the soundcard direct or > > > > from the Audigy front panel. > > > > > > > > Some time ago someone mentioned the diskwriter plugin for xmms. > > > > Can someone give me the file name? I don't seem to have it > > > > installed, and can't find it on the list. > > > > > > > > Is diskwriter likely to help me? > > > > > > > > Anyone able to suggest a better route? > > > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > Anne, urpmi gramofile and check it out - its what I just recently > > > used to convert some 20 year old cassettes that I had. ;-) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > /\ > > > Dark> > > \/ > No, I didn't see it. Thanks for sending it on. I got LVG's though. > Before I saw this I had found an article on Gramofile through google, > so I've installed it. I'll also take a look at LV's suggestions of > audacity and rezound. > > But the first need is to actually get the sound in. What can I use > that will give me some feedback as to whether it is actually hearing > anything? It's too time-consuming to keep attempting a recording > when you don't know whether there's anything there in the first > place. > > Anne Anne Make sure your card is running full duplex if it can ... of course the way they define full duplex really isn't but close enough. When it's running this way it can take sound in write it to the hdd and play it at the same time. So. If you hear it on the comps speakers it's going in. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 06:46:38AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 9:36 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 4:45 pm, you wrote: > > > did you see this one Anne , this list is a bit weird at the moment > > > > > > No, I didn't see it. Thanks for sending it on. I got LVG's though. > > Before I saw this I had found an article on Gramofile through google, > > so I've installed it. I'll also take a look at LV's suggestions of > > audacity and rezound. > > > > But the first need is to actually get the sound in. What can I use > > that will give me some feedback as to whether it is actually hearing > > anything? It's too time-consuming to keep attempting a recording > > when you don't know whether there's anything there in the first > > place. > > You should have the output from vinyl player to go to line-in of your > soundcard. In sound mixer(like Kmix) you should select line-in for recording > purposes. If the speaker is connected to speaker/lineout port, then if you > play the player, you should get sound from speaker when the OS is working. > For this no sound s/w(playing or recording) need to run. If not then there is > problem with /dec/dsp or /dev/sound/dsp > -- > L.V.Gandhi > 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 > MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA > http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ > If you try to go directly from a turntable to aux in on the sound ,you will probably need to use a special preamp.The frequency response recorded to vinyl is nonlinear to avoid overcuting the ridges at lower frequencies.The output of most turntables is also extremely low voltage for most aux level inputs.If the turntable is connected to an amp or receiver,that should all be taken care of by the phono input and you can use either aux out or record out to connect to aux in on the sound card. Ray Warren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 11:46 pm, T. Ribbrock wrote: > When you use the line-in connection of your sound card, chances are > that you will be able to hear it in the speakers of your computer > already - it seems to be the default mixer setting on most systems. Now there's the rub - I don't hear anything. I hate to say the dreaded line, but I used both card line-in and front panel line-in under windows. Both line-in and line-in2 show up on the mixer panels, both are turned right up, but nothing comes out. > If you don't fire up the mixer program of your choice (aumix, kmix, > gmix, to name but a few) and fiddle with the settings for line-in. > You'll need the mixer anyway with gramofile, to set a decent > recording level as to avoid clipping (=too hard) and noise (=to > low). > > Also, be aware that most standard PC sound cards don't produce very > high quality recordings. It's probably good enough for most things, > but if you're a very critical listener, don't expect the same level > as from really good HiFi equipment. I actually bought a Turtle > Beach Tahiti just for that purpose (quite cheap these days, as it's > ISA), which is great - very low noise and good Analogue to Digital > convertors, but depending on what you want to accomplish, that > might be overkill... > The Audigy card seems to do a reasonably good job, but thanks for the suggestion. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 6:08 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > Anne > >Make sure your card is running full duplex if it can ... of > course the way they define full duplex really isn't but close > enough. I think it is, but I can't remember how to check/set it. > When it's running this way it can take sound in write it > to the hdd and play it at the same time. So. If you hear it on > the comps speakers it's going in. > I can't. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 7:13 am, Ray Warren wrote: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 06:46:38AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 9:36 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 4:45 pm, you wrote: > > > > did you see this one Anne , this list is a bit weird at the > > > > moment > > > > > > No, I didn't see it. Thanks for sending it on. I got LVG's > > > though. Before I saw this I had found an article on Gramofile > > > through google, so I've installed it. I'll also take a look at > > > LV's suggestions of audacity and rezound. > > > > > > But the first need is to actually get the sound in. What can I > > > use that will give me some feedback as to whether it is > > > actually hearing anything? It's too time-consuming to keep > > > attempting a recording when you don't know whether there's > > > anything there in the first place. > > > > You should have the output from vinyl player to go to line-in of > > your soundcard. In sound mixer(like Kmix) you should select > > line-in for recording purposes. If the speaker is connected to > > speaker/lineout port, then if you play the player, you should get > > sound from speaker when the OS is working. For this no sound > > s/w(playing or recording) need to run. If not then there is > > problem with /dec/dsp or /dev/sound/dsp > > -- > > L.V.Gandhi > > 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, > > Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, > > Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ > > If you try to go directly from a turntable to aux in on the sound > ,you will probably need to use a special preamp.The frequency > response recorded to vinyl is nonlinear to avoid overcuting the > ridges at lower frequencies.The output of most turntables is also > extremely low voltage for most aux level inputs.If the turntable is > connected to an amp or receiver,that should all be taken care of by > the phono input and you can use either aux out or record out to > connect to aux in on the sound card. > Ray Warren Thanks, but I'm using the same physical connection setup that I used with Creative's windows software to record previously. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 1, 2003 01:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 6:08 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > > Anne > > > >Make sure your card is running full duplex if it can ... of > > course the way they define full duplex really isn't but close > > enough. > > I think it is, but I can't remember how to check/set it. > > > When it's running this way it can take sound in write it > > to the hdd and play it at the same time. So. If you hear it on > > the comps speakers it's going in. > > I can't. > > Anne Full duplex mode settings are available from Configuration>KDE>Sound>Sound System under the I/O tab. C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 01:28:23 up 10 days, 14:49, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.17, 0.20 Utility is when you have one telephone, luxury is when you have two, opulence is when you have three -- and paradise is when you have none. -- Doug Larson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/eoKcG11CaRuZZSIRArpKAJ4rs1khEh+fx44dBD3hdIVQ3CIMewCeNQpO mPurLgdaes7i3ia4wwtVVas= =St1M -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 08:14:53AM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > Now there's the rub - I don't hear anything. I hate to say the > dreaded line, but I used both card line-in and front panel line-in > under windows. Both line-in and line-in2 show up on the mixer > panels, both are turned right up, but nothing comes out. Several ideas: - Are the "mute" checkboxes unchecked? (Can't describe what they look like, as I don't have a Linux machine here at the moment) - Can you play wav/au files or hear sound when using xmms? If not, also check "Mute" and volume settings on "Mixer" and "Main". - On my MDK 9.1 box, I did have a very strange problem related to this: I would only get sound if I put the volume not quite to 100%. 90% would be fine, while at 100% everything fell silent. It didn't bother me enough to investigate this further, so I can't say what exactly is going wrong there, but maybe it's something to try for you. Cheerio, Thomas -- - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org "You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 9:59 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Tuesday 30 September 2003 12:06 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > No, I didn't see it. Thanks for sending it on. I got LVG's > > though. Before I saw this I had found an article on Gramofile > > through google, so I've installed it. I'll also take a look at > > LV's suggestions of audacity and rezound. > > I used rezound to edit stuff - its pretty awesome - keep in mind it > works out of the box with ogg but you'll have to install Lame to > work with mp3s. > > > But the first need is to actually get the sound in. What can I > > use that will give me some feedback as to whether it is actually > > hearing anything? It's too time-consuming to keep attempting a > > recording when you don't know whether there's anything there in > > the first place. > > > > Anne > > Oh - I used a component cassette player with right and left RCA > jacks, via a cable that ended in the 1/8 inch mini-plug needed for > the line-in jack. With aumix up, and line-in set to RED (which in > this case means go, not stop) I could hear the music playing, even > before recording. You should be able to hear the music you are > feeding in, if not something is not turned on/connected right. > > HTHs! :-) Right - this one gave me the clue. I had checked the settings in aumix, but I hadn't realised that I needed to change the Rec to red - should have done. However, now I can get sound easily with the aumix line showing red. As soon as I change to rec I get sound, but with what sounds like someone fast beating on woodblocks at the same time. Any ideas on that one? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 8:43 am, T. Ribbrock wrote: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 08:14:53AM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Now there's the rub - I don't hear anything. I hate to say the > > dreaded line, but I used both card line-in and front panel > > line-in under windows. Both line-in and line-in2 show up on the > > mixer panels, both are turned right up, but nothing comes out. > > Several ideas: > - Are the "mute" checkboxes unchecked? (Can't describe what they > look like, as I don't have a Linux machine here at the moment) - > Can you play wav/au files or hear sound when using xmms? If not, > also check "Mute" and volume settings on "Mixer" and "Main". - On > my MDK 9.1 box, I did have a very strange problem related to this: > I would only get sound if I put the volume not quite to 100%. 90% > would be fine, while at 100% everything fell silent. It didn't > bother me enough to investigate this further, so I can't say what > exactly is going wrong there, but maybe it's something to try for > you. > Partly found the problem - it was not using aumix to change which channel is active. However, I've got wood-block beating along with the sound when I change to rec. Once I can get this sorted I'll short out the volume levels. The front-panel input (audigy) is a lot less loud than the read panel one, though obviously a lot more convenient. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 05:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > Right - this one gave me the clue. I had checked the settings in > aumix, but I hadn't realised that I needed to change the Rec to red - > should have done. However, now I can get sound easily with the aumix > line showing red. As soon as I change to rec I get sound, but with > what sounds like someone fast beating on woodblocks at the same time. > Any ideas on that one? > > Anne Hmm, I know that on the SB live that I was using in my 10 yr olds comp; I really, really had to turn the igain (I'm assuming thats "input gain"???) in aumix way down. It defauts to 100, but I had to turn it down to 8-10 to avoid clipping in gramofile. HTHs! -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 1:40 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Wednesday 01 October 2003 05:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Right - this one gave me the clue. I had checked the settings in > > aumix, but I hadn't realised that I needed to change the Rec to > > red - should have done. However, now I can get sound easily with > > the aumix line showing red. As soon as I change to rec I get > > sound, but with what sounds like someone fast beating on > > woodblocks at the same time. Any ideas on that one? > > > > Anne > > Hmm, I know that on the SB live that I was using in my 10 yr olds > comp; I really, really had to turn the igain (I'm assuming thats > "input gain"???) in aumix way down. It defauts to 100, but I had to > turn it down to 8-10 to avoid clipping in gramofile. > > HTHs! Hi, DarkLord. OK - if I turn igain down to 0 I lose the noise, but even 3 brings it back. I presume it is some sort of feedback, but I don't know what's causing it. Meanwhile, I had looked at Audacity and Rezound, but without success. These are the error messages: Rezound - virtual void COSSSoundRecorder::initialize(CSound*) -- error opening OSS device '/dev/dsp -- Device or resource busy Audacity - Error opening audio device (Change the device in the Preferences dialog.) /dev/dsp is the only entry in the Preferences dialog. Any ideas? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
before running Audacity and/or Rezound do the following $killall artsd That might get you going. Here's hoping kernel 2.6 and its built-in ALSA support comes and wipes the old OSS Sound way of doing things off the planet for good :) David -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD] On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 1:40 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Wednesday 01 October 2003 05:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Right - this one gave me the clue. I had checked the settings in > > aumix, but I hadn't realised that I needed to change the Rec to > > red - should have done. However, now I can get sound easily with > > the aumix line showing red. As soon as I change to rec I get > > sound, but with what sounds like someone fast beating on > > woodblocks at the same time. Any ideas on that one? > > > > Anne > > Hmm, I know that on the SB live that I was using in my 10 yr olds > comp; I really, really had to turn the igain (I'm assuming thats > "input gain"???) in aumix way down. It defauts to 100, but I had to > turn it down to 8-10 to avoid clipping in gramofile. > > HTHs! Hi, DarkLord. OK - if I turn igain down to 0 I lose the noise, but even 3 brings it back. I presume it is some sort of feedback, but I don't know what's causing it. Meanwhile, I had looked at Audacity and Rezound, but without success. These are the error messages: Rezound - virtual void COSSSoundRecorder::initialize(CSound*) -- error opening OSS device '/dev/dsp -- Device or resource busy Audacity - Error opening audio device (Change the device in the Preferences dialog.) /dev/dsp is the only entry in the Preferences dialog. Any ideas? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 1, 2003 08:44 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > Hmm, I know that on the SB live that I was using in my 10 yr olds > > comp; I really, really had to turn the igain (I'm assuming thats > > "input gain"???) in aumix way down. It defauts to 100, but I had to > > turn it down to 8-10 to avoid clipping in gramofile. > > > > HTHs! > > Hi, DarkLord. OK - if I turn igain down to 0 I lose the noise, but > even 3 brings it back. I presume it is some sort of feedback, but I > don't know what's causing it. > > Meanwhile, I had looked at Audacity and Rezound, but without success. > These are the error messages: > > Rezound - > virtual void COSSSoundRecorder::initialize(CSound*) > -- error opening OSS device '/dev/dsp > -- Device or resource busy > > Audacity - > Error opening audio device > (Change the device in the Preferences dialog.) > > /dev/dsp is the only entry in the Preferences dialog. > > Any ideas? > > Anne Anne; I apologize for not remembering this sooner. Austin Acton has an article that was posted on Desktop Linux and many other websites about building what he terms a "Mandrake Audio Workstation." I've never found the time to read that article, but I do have it on my personal to-do list. Eventually. http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/subscribelau.php3 is one of the links he has posted in the article. That's the mailing list for the Linux Audio Users Group. Their home page is at: http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/index.php Austin's article is available from his homesite. http://groundstate.ca/mdkaw.html Hope this is of some help somehow. Audiophiles and those that work continuously with sound recording, mixing, and editing will probably be a better source of information than we on this list. I wish I knew enough about the tools and processes to be of any help but that is, as they say, a project for another day. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 10:10:55 up 10 days, 23:31, 2 users, load average: 0.36, 0.38, 0.51 Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. -- Titus Maccius Plautus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ewKXG11CaRuZZSIRAsvpAKCpRS66yfhtSRoNVpgxxbBydxZ0BQCgrM+V JLgn7pzX1Losgoo4lNc0iug= =6cmZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 10:44 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > Hi, DarkLord. OK - if I turn igain down to 0 I lose the noise, but > even 3 brings it back. I presume it is some sort of feedback, but I > don't know what's causing it. > > Meanwhile, I had looked at Audacity and Rezound, but without success. > These are the error messages: > > Rezound - > virtual void COSSSoundRecorder::initialize(CSound*) > -- error opening OSS device '/dev/dsp > -- Device or resource busy > > Audacity - > Error opening audio device > (Change the device in the Preferences dialog.) > > /dev/dsp is the only entry in the Preferences dialog. > > Any ideas? > > Anne Anytime I get that error (it does happen a bit here also) as root, I do a: lsof /dev/dsp and that shows me what is holding on to it. This usually happens to me when I'm trying to run a game and it starts with no sound. The single most common villian is "artsd". I usually kill it, "killall -9 artsd" and then I get my sound back. Keep pluggin'! :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 5:36 pm, Charlie M. wrote: > Anne; > > I apologize for not remembering this sooner. Austin Acton has an > article that was posted on Desktop Linux and many other websites > about building what he terms a "Mandrake Audio Workstation." I've > never found the time to read that article, but I do have it on my > personal to-do list. Eventually. > > http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/subscribelau.php3 > > is one of the links he has posted in the article. That's the > mailing list for the Linux Audio Users Group. Their home page is > at: > > http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/index.php > > Austin's article is available from his homesite. > > http://groundstate.ca/mdkaw.html > > Hope this is of some help somehow. Audiophiles and those that work > continuously with sound recording, mixing, and editing will > probably be a better source of information than we on this list. I > wish I knew enough about the tools and processes to be of any help > but that is, as they say, a project for another day. > > Charlie Charlie, it looks very useful. I'm away all day tomorrow and have to prepare this evening, but I'll try to get to it on Friday. Thanks, Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Wednesday 01 October 2003 05:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > Right - this one gave me the clue. I had checked the settings in > > aumix, but I hadn't realised that I needed to change the Rec to red - > > should have done. However, now I can get sound easily with the aumix > > line showing red. As soon as I change to rec I get sound, but with > > what sounds like someone fast beating on woodblocks at the same time. > > Any ideas on that one? > > Hmm, I know that on the SB live that I was using in my 10 yr olds comp; > I really, really had to turn the igain (I'm assuming thats "input > gain"???) in aumix way down. It defauts to 100, but I had to turn it > down to 8-10 to avoid clipping in gramofile. I just dealt with a SBLive 5.1 on a friend's MDK 9.1 system, and I got the best results by using the OSS driver (emu10k1), and enabling record within aumix for the IGain channel *only*; this is a composite of the other input sources, which can then be adjusted with their respective mixer controls. This enabled his rear speakers to work, and the "OGain" control attenuated the volume level for them thereafter. I found that IGain values of 30-40 gave optimal results on his setup, FWIW, but what mattered was that *that* was the only control that had record set to "on"; a few other combinations would lead to the clicking that Anne described. YMMV, HTH. -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "Computers make it easier to do a lot of things, but most of the things they make it easier to do don't need to be done." - Andy Rooney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 03:59 pm, Bill Mullen wrote: > I just dealt with a SBLive 5.1 on a friend's MDK 9.1 system, and I got the > best results by using the OSS driver (emu10k1), and enabling record within > aumix for the IGain channel *only*; this is a composite of the other input > sources, which can then be adjusted with their respective mixer controls. > > This enabled his rear speakers to work, and the "OGain" control attenuated > the volume level for them thereafter. I found that IGain values of 30-40 > gave optimal results on his setup, FWIW, but what mattered was that *that* > was the only control that had record set to "on"; a few other combinations > would lead to the clicking that Anne described. YMMV, HTH. Come to think of it, I don't think I had anything else enabled either. Anne, when you do get things sussed out, make sure you record a "snippet" in Gramofile before you do the actual recording - that way Gramofile can show you with its output how high the rec level is - it will output a summary of how many times the recording went over the top. Adust to perfection, then record your "for real" version. :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 10:02 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Wednesday 01 October 2003 03:59 pm, Bill Mullen wrote: > > I just dealt with a SBLive 5.1 on a friend's MDK 9.1 system, and > > I got the best results by using the OSS driver (emu10k1), and > > enabling record within aumix for the IGain channel *only*; this > > is a composite of the other input sources, which can then be > > adjusted with their respective mixer controls. > > > > This enabled his rear speakers to work, and the "OGain" control > > attenuated the volume level for them thereafter. I found that > > IGain values of 30-40 gave optimal results on his setup, FWIW, > > but what mattered was that *that* was the only control that had > > record set to "on"; a few other combinations would lead to the > > clicking that Anne described. YMMV, HTH. > > Come to think of it, I don't think I had anything else enabled > either. > > Anne, when you do get things sussed out, make sure you record a > "snippet" in Gramofile before you do the actual recording - that > way Gramofile can show you with its output how high the rec level > is - it will output a summary of how many times the recording went > over the top. Adust to perfection, then record your "for real" > version. :-) Thanks, both of you. I'm out all day tomorrow, but I'll try all this again on Friday. I'll probably have to start by going over all the emails again, to refresh my memory. I'll let you know what happens. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 00:20, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 6:08 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > > Anne > > > >Make sure your card is running full duplex if it can ... of > > course the way they define full duplex really isn't but close > > enough. > > I think it is, but I can't remember how to check/set it. kcontrol - Sound - Sound System then the second tab Sound I/0 the first checkbox is Enable full duplex operation. > > > When it's running this way it can take sound in write it > > to the hdd and play it at the same time. So. If you hear it on > > the comps speakers it's going in. > > > I can't. > > Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 8:00 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 00:20, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 6:08 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > Anne > > > > > >Make sure your card is running full duplex if it can ... of > > > course the way they define full duplex really isn't but close > > > enough. > > > > I think it is, but I can't remember how to check/set it. > > kcontrol - Sound - Sound System then the second tab Sound I/0 the > first checkbox is Enable full duplex operation. > Thanks, James. Fixed it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 11:28, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 8:00 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 00:20, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 6:08 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > > Anne > > > > > > > >Make sure your card is running full duplex if it can ... of > > > > course the way they define full duplex really isn't but close > > > > enough. > > > > > > I think it is, but I can't remember how to check/set it. > > > > kcontrol - Sound - Sound System then the second tab Sound I/0 the > > first checkbox is Enable full duplex operation. > > > Thanks, James. Fixed it. > > Anne Great! I forgot to mention one thing. IF your soundcard won't do full duplex (like my laptop) it will lock up the box (grrr) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD] - running at last!
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 3:52 pm, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: > before running Audacity and/or Rezound do the following > > $killall artsd > > That might get you going. Here's hoping kernel 2.6 and its built-in > ALSA support comes and wipes the old OSS Sound way of doing things > off the planet for good :) > > For some reason trying to kill aRts that way didn't work. I went to the link given earlier (sorry, can't remember who gave it to me) http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4543140457.html and started to follow the instructions. The key to the whole thing is to get a kickarts applet onto the kicker. Once that is done you can stop and restart aRts at will. With aRts disabled, Audacity runs. So far I have only tried it on a burst of speech from the radio, but the resulting sound was quite good. The bad news is that neither Jackstart nor ardour will run on the stock 9.1 kernel. Attempting to run ardour caused a spontaneous reboot. Shoudl ardour become necessary (and at this point I don't even know what it is) I will have to boot to the MM kernel, which is as bad as having to boot to windows. Still, it looks as though after my holiday/vacation I can start working on this. Thanks to all that have helped. And yes, I will write a TWiki entry Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
