Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. Who's ready to pay? SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU By Ashlee Vance in Chicago Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GM http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html ---Small slice of the article - Linux users face a serious question. Is $699 too much to pay for a good bath? The $699 scrubbing fee is exactly how much SCO wants for one CPU's worth of a Linux license, and that's just for the time being. Come October 15, the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399. This is the latest word from SCO handed down by Mr. Clean himself - SCO CEO Darl McBride, during a Tuesday conference call. SCO had been holding out on exactly how much it planned to charge Linux users for their use of what it claims is borrowed Unix code, but now all has been made clear - crystal clear. . LX Hey LX, At about the same time as when they pry my gun from my cold, dead hand, they can have the money too drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX Network/System Engineer http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.htm Let him that would move the world, first move himself. -- Socrates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
Good point. -Original Message- From: Richard Bown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00 Ummm, for every CPU running 2.4 or above Eh ? A cpu cant run anything on its own, therefore no problem, Just to prove the point , remove the ram, disconnect the hard drive, now run linux Richard On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 16:01, Andy Davidson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > Let's not generate our own FUD. The $1399 is for a server, not a > desktop. The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199. > > No, I'm not paying that, either. > > andy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
* Jonathan Shilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-06]: > Andy Davidson wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > >> For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's > >> $1399.00 for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > > > Let's not generate our own FUD. The $1399 is for a server, not a > > desktop. The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199. > > > > No, I'm not paying that, either. > > > > andy > Actually, if I recall correctly SCO stated that it is $699, and no I am > _NOT_ going to pay them. :P First question that came to my mind after reading the news was: "How on earth do they think they could ever make someone actually pay?" See, they can ask whatever they want. Important is how they could put enough weight on their demand. I have been asking my boss for years about a raise in pay. He agreed whenever *he* was ready. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 14:01, Jonathan Shilling wrote: > Andy Davidson wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > >> For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's > >> $1399.00 for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > > > Let's not generate our own FUD. The $1399 is for a server, not a > > desktop. The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199. > > > > No, I'm not paying that, either. > > > > andy > Actually, if I recall correctly SCO stated that it is $699, and no I am > _NOT_ going to pay them. :P > > > > Jonathan G. Shilling > Senior LAN Administrator Hmmm. Well, technically since I have a server and two workstations running here now, that brings me up to $2797.00. For my own part I'm saving Lanman's sample response email from the newbie list in case they try to extort any money from me. As Dr Jung said, they can pry it from my cold dead fingers. Other than that and until then they can kiss my ass. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk "Filter That, Beach!" --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:59 am, Andy Davidson wholly or partly mentioned :- > So you can sort of pick your own amount that you're not going to > pay. [My desktop has Apache running on it. So which would I owe if I > were going to pay? :-) ] > > andy They will get money out of this. There are people out there who become frightened, pay when the threatening letter arrives with the appropriate letterhead, or the name of an organisation that is large enough to seem invincible. I hope I am wrong, but people are already starting to send money, and the longer this lasts there will be people having doubts and more will send money. We are conditioned that way. This is a cynical plan to raise money, a scam like any other. Once they stop and say that they are not carrying it any further [they dare not say they had no basis for the assertion] they will not return the money that is now residing in their coffers. Here in Oz there was a saddler who had made a saddle for a pastoral company, but couldn't recall which company he made it for, so he sent a bill for its manufacture to the ten pastoral companies that he had on his books. He received back 9 cheques. They will not care about litigation, because if they do not bring it on, no one else will, and if they do, it will be funded by those that are already sending money just to be sure and safe. Charlie -- Life, we learn too late, is in the living, in the tissue of every day and hour. Stephen Leacock This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
Andy Davidson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: >> For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's >> $1399.00 for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > Let's not generate our own FUD. The $1399 is for a server, not a > desktop. The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199. > > No, I'm not paying that, either. > > andy Actually, if I recall correctly SCO stated that it is $699, and no I am _NOT_ going to pay them. :P Jonathan G. Shilling Senior LAN Administrator Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 01:01:56PM -0500, Jonathan Shilling wrote: > > Actually, if I recall correctly SCO stated that it is $699, and no I am > _NOT_ going to pay them. :P > There are too many numbers running around. The $699\$1399 numbers are the before Oct 15/after Oct 15 price for a single-cpu server. The $199 number I quoted is the before Oct 15 price for a single-user desktop machine. See http://www.sco.com/scosource/description.html They do not give the after Oct 15 price for a desktop. So you can sort of pick your own amount that you're not going to pay. [My desktop has Apache running on it. So which would I owe if I were going to pay? :-) ] andy -- Andy Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
EXTRA EXTRA Get your free SCO license for your 2.4 kernel here... http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/8/5/174346/7072 Download the official SCO license so your kernel is legal. Extra Extra read all about it James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
Instead of arguing amongst ourselves, why not taking the complaint directly to SCO? As someone on the Linux Users of Northern Illinois (LUNI) group correctly pointed out ;> ... "From the Register article we have the number: 1-800-726-8649 where we can call and give SCO our opinions. From a pay phone (actually many, many phones), where SCO has to cough up $0.25 per call." http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/2003-August/012555.html Stef On Thursday 07 August 2003 12:24 am, Frankie wrote: > >-Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Davidson > >Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2003 5:00 AM > > > >There are too many numbers running around. The $699\$1399 numbers are > >the before Oct 15/after Oct 15 price for a single-cpu server. The $199 > >number I quoted is the before Oct 15 price for a single-user desktop > >machine. See http://www.sco.com/scosource/description.html They do > >not give the after Oct 15 price for a desktop. > > > >So you can sort of pick your own amount that you're not going to > >pay. [My desktop has Apache running on it. So which would I owe if I > >were going to pay? :-) ] > > OK, will the amount I am not going to pay then is 1 cent.. they will not > get > one cent out of me... > > The reason they are doing this, is very very simple.. they have dropping > revenue > and no way to improve the situation since SCO unix is not the best choice > unix anyway. > (IBM is not complaining about AIX, neither HP about HP-UX or Sun about > solaris being made > worthless by Linux.) SCO just don't have anything else thats making money > and they had to do something to stop their shareprice going down the > toilet. > > The only way to make the company of interest to the shareholders is to > engage in legal action. > As for charging for linux, well they are furthering the scare tactics, > trying to show how "Serious" they are.. > They might even scare a few away from linux or to buy a license... > > Problem is that anyone that pays it, can sue them later if they are found > to have no case. > > I think that its a safe bet that SCO won't be part of the IT industry's > future, they have burnt every bridge accept M$ and M$ doesn't want Unix > around either. > > I think IBM and Novell should get together and counter sue SCO for making > unproven claims and trying to extort their linux clients. Have SCO barred > from making such claims till its proven in court. In other words, "put up > or shut up!" IBM and Novell can also sue that their linux business has been > hurt by SCO's unproven claims and sue for damages. > > I am surprised at how little action has been taken in the US to counter > this.. they should be following the Europeans and have it ruled that SCO > must prove their claims before being able to try to extort customers. > > > rgds > > Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
Albert E. Whale, CISSP wrote: Thank you IBM for cuing SCO. WOW, that got past me. That's supposed to be Suing SCO, and while the Article is on zdnet, my site has several other references as well. HTH. You can find the Linux News (update hourly) at http://www.no-junkmail.com/news.html -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer & Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 04:36, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 00:24, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > > > Who's ready to pay? > > > > SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU > > By Ashlee Vance in Chicago > > Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GM > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html > > > > ---Small slice of the article - > > > > Linux users face a serious question. Is $699 too much to pay for a good > > bath? > > > > The $699 scrubbing fee is exactly how much SCO wants for one CPU's worth > > of a Linux license, and that's just for the time being. Come October 15, > > the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399. > > > > This is the latest word from SCO handed down by Mr. Clean himself - SCO > > CEO Darl McBride, during a Tuesday conference call. SCO had been holding > > out on exactly how much it planned to charge Linux users for their use > > of what it claims is borrowed Unix code, but now all has been made clear > > - crystal clear. . > > > > > > LX > > > Guess I'll have to run 2.6 then *grin* > > James > They've still got you covered, James. >= 2.4 You sent your check yet? LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 03:24 pm, Frankie wholly or partly mentioned :- > I think IBM and Novell should get together and counter sue SCO for making > unproven claims and trying to extort their linux clients. Have SCO barred > from making such claims till its proven in court. In other words, "put up > or shut up!" IBM and Novell can also sue that their linux business has been > hurt by SCO's unproven claims and sue for damages. First rule of law for anyone not a lawyer, don't sue, let others sue you. IBM and Novell don't want to throw money away chasing a chimera. -- At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. Ugo Betti This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
and on that track... on every SMP system, each CPU would only be running a percentage of a given install so ech CPU could only be charged a percentage of a single CPU licensing fee *g* --- Original Message --- From: Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00 >Ummm, >for every CPU running 2.4 or above Eh ? > >A cpu cant run anything on its own, > > >therefore no problem, > >Just to prove the point , remove the ram, disconnect the hard drive, > >now run linux > > >Richard > >On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 16:01, Andy Davidson wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: >> > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 >> > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. >> >> Let's not generate our own FUD. The $1399 is for a server, not a >> desktop. The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199. >> >> No, I'm not paying that, either. >> >> andy > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 04:59 pm, Andy Davidson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 01:01:56PM -0500, Jonathan Shilling wrote: > > Actually, if I recall correctly SCO stated that it is $699, and no I am > > _NOT_ going to pay them. :P > > There are too many numbers running around. The $699\$1399 numbers are > the before Oct 15/after Oct 15 price for a single-cpu server. The $199 > number I quoted is the before Oct 15 price for a single-user desktop > machine. See http://www.sco.com/scosource/description.html They do > not give the after Oct 15 price for a desktop. > > So you can sort of pick your own amount that you're not going to > pay. [My desktop has Apache running on it. So which would I owe if I > were going to pay? :-) ] > > andy Andy: Extending your idea, if I lie and tell SCO that I'm running sixteen servers and a Beowulf cluster of boxes behind that, I'll have the satisfaction of not paying them even more money. I'll wait until Oct. 15, when the prices go up. Double the pleasure, double the fun. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
Ummm, for every CPU running 2.4 or above Eh ? A cpu cant run anything on its own, therefore no problem, Just to prove the point , remove the ram, disconnect the hard drive, now run linux Richard On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 16:01, Andy Davidson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > Let's not generate our own FUD. The $1399 is for a server, not a > desktop. The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199. > > No, I'm not paying that, either. > > andy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 01:36:11AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 00:24, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > Guess I'll have to run 2.6 then *grin* > Well, we all will file for Chapter 11 then and be in (a) good company (pun intended). wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Davidson >Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2003 5:00 AM > >There are too many numbers running around. The $699\$1399 numbers are >the before Oct 15/after Oct 15 price for a single-cpu server. The $199 >number I quoted is the before Oct 15 price for a single-user desktop >machine. See http://www.sco.com/scosource/description.html They do >not give the after Oct 15 price for a desktop. > >So you can sort of pick your own amount that you're not going to >pay. [My desktop has Apache running on it. So which would I owe if I >were going to pay? :-) ] > OK, will the amount I am not going to pay then is 1 cent.. they will not get one cent out of me... The reason they are doing this, is very very simple.. they have dropping revenue and no way to improve the situation since SCO unix is not the best choice unix anyway. (IBM is not complaining about AIX, neither HP about HP-UX or Sun about solaris being made worthless by Linux.) SCO just don't have anything else thats making money and they had to do something to stop their shareprice going down the toilet. The only way to make the company of interest to the shareholders is to engage in legal action. As for charging for linux, well they are furthering the scare tactics, trying to show how "Serious" they are.. They might even scare a few away from linux or to buy a license... Problem is that anyone that pays it, can sue them later if they are found to have no case. I think that its a safe bet that SCO won't be part of the IT industry's future, they have burnt every bridge accept M$ and M$ doesn't want Unix around either. I think IBM and Novell should get together and counter sue SCO for making unproven claims and trying to extort their linux clients. Have SCO barred from making such claims till its proven in court. In other words, "put up or shut up!" IBM and Novell can also sue that their linux business has been hurt by SCO's unproven claims and sue for damages. I am surprised at how little action has been taken in the US to counter this.. they should be following the Europeans and have it ruled that SCO must prove their claims before being able to try to extort customers. rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 00:24, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > Who's ready to pay? > > SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU > By Ashlee Vance in Chicago > Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GM > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html > > ---Small slice of the article - > > Linux users face a serious question. Is $699 too much to pay for a good > bath? > > The $699 scrubbing fee is exactly how much SCO wants for one CPU's worth > of a Linux license, and that's just for the time being. Come October 15, > the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399. > > This is the latest word from SCO handed down by Mr. Clean himself - SCO > CEO Darl McBride, during a Tuesday conference call. SCO had been holding > out on exactly how much it planned to charge Linux users for their use > of what it claims is borrowed Unix code, but now all has been made clear > - crystal clear. . > > > LX Guess I'll have to run 2.6 then *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 05:03, J.C. Woods wrote: > Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > >For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > >for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > > >Who's ready to pay? > > > >SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU > >By Ashlee Vance in Chicago > >Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GM > > > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html > > > >---Small slice of the article - > > > >Linux users face a serious question. Is $699 too much to pay for a good > >bath? > > > >The $699 scrubbing fee is exactly how much SCO wants for one CPU's worth > >of a Linux license, and that's just for the time being. Come October 15, > >the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399. > > > >This is the latest word from SCO handed down by Mr. Clean himself - SCO > >CEO Darl McBride, during a Tuesday conference call. SCO had been holding > >out on exactly how much it planned to charge Linux users for their use > >of what it claims is borrowed Unix code, but now all has been made clear > >- crystal clear. . > > > > > >LX > > > > > Hey LX, > > At about the same time as when they pry my gun from my cold, dead hand, > they can have the money too > > drjung Amen, brother. :) LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk "Filter That, Beach!" --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
stefmit wrote: Instead of arguing amongst ourselves, why not taking the complaint directly to SCO? As someone on the Linux Users of Northern Illinois (LUNI) group correctly pointed out ;> ... "From the Register article we have the number: 1-800-726-8649 where we can call and give SCO our opinions. From a pay phone (actually many, many phones), where SCO has to cough up $0.25 per call." http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/2003-August/012555.html Stef Thank you IBM for cuing SCO. You can find the Linux News (update hourly) at http://www.no-junkmail.com/news.html -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer & Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
Lyvim Xaphir grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > Who's ready to pay? That's all part of their FUD campain. They may try to charge for it, but there's no way they can sue for it. Say I write a book and publish it. Then along comes publisher B who takes huge sections of my book and publishes it under another name, which is clearly copyright violation. You bought the book from publisher B. Can I sue you for copyright infringment because you purchased and read the book? No. But I can go after publisher B. I've seen that very analogy presented by various legal analysts. They want to slow the adoption of Linux in corporate environments (since Linux is beating UNIX by far more than it is Windows in those environments), and hopes that there will be companies that will pay rather than take a chance of being sued for copyright violation. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
well you could just build and boot a 2.2 kernel... As I understand it, the 2.2 kernel is not under scrutiny. rgds Franki >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I wonder... Will SCO come after me if I just switch to my copy of >Caldera E- >Desktop, the technology release that has an early 2.4 kernel? > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 07:23, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 04:36, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 00:24, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > > > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > > > > > Who's ready to pay? > > > > > > SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU > > > By Ashlee Vance in Chicago > > > Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GM > > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html > > > > > > ---Small slice of the article - > > > > > > Linux users face a serious question. Is $699 too much to pay for a good > > > bath? > > > > > > The $699 scrubbing fee is exactly how much SCO wants for one CPU's worth > > > of a Linux license, and that's just for the time being. Come October 15, > > > the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399. > > > > > > This is the latest word from SCO handed down by Mr. Clean himself - SCO > > > CEO Darl McBride, during a Tuesday conference call. SCO had been holding > > > out on exactly how much it planned to charge Linux users for their use > > > of what it claims is borrowed Unix code, but now all has been made clear > > > - crystal clear. . > > > > > > > > > LX > > > > > > Guess I'll have to run 2.6 then *grin* > > > > James > > > > > They've still got you covered, James. >= 2.4 > > You sent your check yet? > > LX I can guarantee that my check would be as worthless as their claims. First I need to find some sheet rubber to print it on. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
* IBM on Thursday filed counterclaims against the SCO Group in the continuing legal battle over the Linux operating system. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5060965.html * On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 03:24 pm, Frankie wholly or partly mentioned :- I think IBM and Novell should get together and counter sue SCO for making unproven claims and trying to extort their linux clients. Have SCO barred from making such claims till its proven in court. In other words, "put up or shut up!" IBM and Novell can also sue that their linux business has been hurt by SCO's unproven claims and sue for damages. First rule of law for anyone not a lawyer, don't sue, let others sue you. IBM and Novell don't want to throw money away chasing a chimera. -- Abit VP-6 Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdksmp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
F^%$ SCO.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00 I wonder... Will SCO come after me if I just switch to my copy of Caldera E- Desktop, the technology release that has an early 2.4 kernel? For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. Who's ready to pay? SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU By Ashlee Vance in Chicago Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GM http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html ---Small slice of the article - Linux users face a serious question. Is $699 too much to pay for a good bath? The $699 scrubbing fee is exactly how much SCO wants for one CPU's worth of a Linux license, and that's just for the time being. Come October 15, the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399. This is the latest word from SCO handed down by Mr. Clean himself - SCO CEO Darl McBride, during a Tuesday conference call. SCO had been holding out on exactly how much it planned to charge Linux users for their use of what it claims is borrowed Unix code, but now all has been made clear - crystal clear. . LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 12:24 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > Who's ready to pay? I have my 139,900 pennies all stacked up. Where's the CEO so I can watch him sit on them? And if its only 19,900 that would be pretty fun, too. --- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
Throw it to /dev/null --- James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > EXTRA EXTRA Get your free SCO license for your > 2.4 kernel here... > > http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/8/5/174346/7072 > > Download the official SCO license so your kernel is > legal. > > Extra Extra read all about it > > James > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > = Sergio Belkin¿Se imagina si su Software fuera Libre? Internet GRATIS es Yahoo! Conexión 4004-1010 desde Buenos Aires. Usuario: yahoo; contraseña: yahoo Más ciudades: http://conexion.yahoo.com.ar Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
I tell ya what. As a refugee of the dot com failure and an unemployed systems engineer they can take it out of my paycheck. On Star Date Wednesday 06 August 2003 08:57 pm, PlugHead sent this sub-space message. > Personally, I can't wait for (and will happily participate in) the class > action lawsuit that SCO will inevitably get slapped with. > > Frankly, that would be one settlement that I'd be happy if the lawyers got > a *big* paycheck at the end and I nothing. As long as it was a *really* > *BIG* paycheck... > > Unfortunately, the problem [as I see it] is that, this is what they call an > "exit strategy" for the SCO scumbag... er... execs--i.e. they'll drive > their share-price as high as they can, with the promise of billions in > pay-out, then sell their stock and bail out. > > At that point, the company will become worthless... Guess who the only > winners will be? Given the individuals involved, they'll probably manage > to get their sleazy hands into some other venture in short order... :( > Maybe someone should notify the FTC (or is it the SEC) of this probability? > > But I digress... When is beta 2 comming out?? :) > -Jason > > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 03:24 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > > > Who's ready to pay? > > > > SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU > > By Ashlee Vance in Chicago > > Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GM > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html > > > > ---Small slice of the article - > > > > Linux users face a serious question. Is $699 too much to pay for a good > > bath? > > > > The $699 scrubbing fee is exactly how much SCO wants for one CPU's worth > > of a Linux license, and that's just for the time being. Come October 15, > > the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399. > > > > This is the latest word from SCO handed down by Mr. Clean himself - SCO > > CEO Darl McBride, during a Tuesday conference call. SCO had been holding > > out on exactly how much it planned to charge Linux users for their use > > of what it claims is borrowed Unix code, but now all has been made clear > > - crystal clear. . > > > > > > LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
Personally, I can't wait for (and will happily participate in) the class action lawsuit that SCO will inevitably get slapped with. Frankly, that would be one settlement that I'd be happy if the lawyers got a *big* paycheck at the end and I nothing. As long as it was a *really* *BIG* paycheck... Unfortunately, the problem [as I see it] is that, this is what they call an "exit strategy" for the SCO scumbag... er... execs--i.e. they'll drive their share-price as high as they can, with the promise of billions in pay-out, then sell their stock and bail out. At that point, the company will become worthless... Guess who the only winners will be? Given the individuals involved, they'll probably manage to get their sleazy hands into some other venture in short order... :( Maybe someone should notify the FTC (or is it the SEC) of this probability? But I digress... When is beta 2 comming out?? :) -Jason On Wednesday 06 August 2003 03:24 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. > > Who's ready to pay? > > SCO ready to clean out Linux users for $1399 per CPU > By Ashlee Vance in Chicago > Posted: 05/08/2003 at 21:35 GM > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html > > ---Small slice of the article - > > Linux users face a serious question. Is $699 too much to pay for a good > bath? > > The $699 scrubbing fee is exactly how much SCO wants for one CPU's worth > of a Linux license, and that's just for the time being. Come October 15, > the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399. > > This is the latest word from SCO handed down by Mr. Clean himself - SCO > CEO Darl McBride, during a Tuesday conference call. SCO had been holding > out on exactly how much it planned to charge Linux users for their use > of what it claims is borrowed Unix code, but now all has been made clear > - crystal clear. . > > > LX -- = 'But it'll kill him!' 'It could have been worse.' 'What?' 'It could have been us.' (Colour of Magic) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Oh, and BTW...you guys owe SCO $1399.00
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:24:30AM -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > For the copy of Mandrake you now have. Wait...check that: it's $1399.00 > for every CPU that's running a copy of kernel 2.4 or above. Let's not generate our own FUD. The $1399 is for a server, not a desktop. The fee for a single-user desktop is only $199. No, I'm not paying that, either. andy -- Andy Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
