Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-28 Thread nDiScReEt

On Saturday 25 May 2002 11:25 pm, Femme wrote:
 On Sat, 25 May 2002 20:50:16 -0700

 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Check your commonhttpd.conf file, (/etc/httpd/conf/ ) but usually the
  default allows you to follow symlinks (in the past) if not look for
 
  # Each directory to which Apache has access, can be configured with
  respect# to which services and features are allowed and/or disabled in
  that# directory (and its subdirectories).
  #
  # First, we configure the default to be a very restrictive set of
  # permissions.
  #
  # Also, for security, we disable indexes globally
  #
  Directory /
  Options -Indexes FollowSymLinks
  AllowOverride None
  /Directory
 
 
  and make it look like the above.  Then go to var/www/html and type ln
  -s/absolute/path/to/my/directory directory  This will then be the same
  as moving them physically there.  It's a hack but it works.
 
  James

 *giggles* Hacks are cool.  Thx mucho James.  I'll try your idea /or
 ndiscreets.  Not sure which yet will yield better results.

 As an aside, any chance someone can point me to a newbie-fied apache
 install/maintenance URL?  I'm pretty useless with HTML/web
 stuff...having never tried it, but am a fast learner *Smiles*.

 Thx for all you guys' help!  I hope to get this working soon...lord
 knows I've learned alot since I asked what I thought was a simple
 question. Heh, never underestimate the power of linux to make it complex
 fast :)

 Femme
As far as the apache maintenance, that would depend on what version you are 
currently using (ie apache 1.3 or apache 2.0). HTML/web tutorial, I would 
recommend http://www.webmonkey.com.


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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-28 Thread FemmeFatale

nDiScReEt wrote:

  Thx for all you guys' help!  I hope to get this working soon...lord
  knows I've learned alot since I asked what I thought was a simple
  question. Heh, never underestimate the power of linux to make it complex
  fast :)
 
  Femme
 As far as the apache maintenance, that would depend on what version you are
 currently using (ie apache 1.3 or apache 2.0). HTML/web tutorial, I would
 recommend http://www.webmonkey.com.
 

Ty. The more tutorials for me that I read, the better.  :)

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-26 Thread Bill Kenworthy

Mount your win32/ntfs(ro) partitions (where the files reside) and either
serve from them or symlink into the path if required.

BillK

On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 08:11, Femme wrote:
 On Sat, 25 May 2002 19:43:23 -0300
 WOOkY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

 I'm trying to make a ftp-like thing for ppl on the lists.  So I can
 serve small files to friends  list ppl here.
 
 What was suggested was using Apache for this, dumping files into a
 direrctory  Using it that way.  Unfortunately that will not work as my
 Linux partition is too small to hold teh files.
 





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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-26 Thread Jeferson Lopes Zacco



Femme wrote:


 
 *giggles* Hacks are cool.  Thx mucho James.  I'll try your idea /or
 ndiscreets.  Not sure which yet will yield better results.  
 
 As an aside, any chance someone can point me to a newbie-fied apache
 install/maintenance URL?  I'm pretty useless with HTML/web
 stuff...having never tried it, but am a fast learner *Smiles*.  
 
 Thx for all you guys' help!  I hope to get this working soon...lord
 knows I've learned alot since I asked what I thought was a simple
 question. Heh, never underestimate the power of linux to make it complex
 fast :)
 
 Femme


Guess you really didn't notice they both suggested the same thing (ops, 
include me and Civ also)? James gave you a nice tip that apache should 
be configured to actually follow symlinks, but if I remember it well 
that's the default behaviour.


Wooky


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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-26 Thread FemmeFatale

Bill Kenworthy wrote:
 
 Mount your win32/ntfs(ro) partitions (where the files reside) and either
 serve from them or symlink into the path if required.
 
 BillK
 
 On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 08:11, Femme wrote:
  On Sat, 25 May 2002 19:43:23 -0300
  WOOkY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I'm trying to make a ftp-like thing for ppl on the lists.  So I can
  serve small files to friends  list ppl here.
 
  What was suggested was using Apache for this, dumping files into a
  direrctory  Using it that way.  Unfortunately that will not work as my
  Linux partition is too small to hold teh files.
 
 

ty, thats what has been suggested by others.  Heh, I even got
step-by-step instructions ;)  Merci

For those wishing it, its sunday here  the ftp is up in windows for hte
moment. same login/pass @ 142.173.217.236, port number 21

Upload or d/l if you wish.  the upload directory is already made under
hte mp3 directory. 
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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-26 Thread James

On Sat, 25 May 2002 22:25:10 -0600
Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 25 May 2002 20:50:16 -0700
 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Check your commonhttpd.conf file, (/etc/httpd/conf/ ) but usually
  the default allows you to follow symlinks (in the past) if not look
  for 
  
  # Each directory to which Apache has access, can be configured with
  respect# to which services and features are allowed and/or disabled
  in that# directory (and its subdirectories). 
  #
  # First, we configure the default to be a very restrictive set of 
  # permissions.  
  #
  # Also, for security, we disable indexes globally
  #
  Directory /
  Options -Indexes FollowSymLinks
  AllowOverride None
  /Directory
  
  
  and make it look like the above.  Then go to var/www/html and type
  ln-s/absolute/path/to/my/directory directory  This will then be the
  same as moving them physically there.  It's a hack but it
  works.
  
  James
  
 
 *giggles* Hacks are cool.  Thx mucho James.  I'll try your idea /or
 ndiscreets.  Not sure which yet will yield better results.  
 
 As an aside, any chance someone can point me to a newbie-fied apache
 install/maintenance URL?  I'm pretty useless with HTML/web
 stuff...having never tried it, but am a fast learner *Smiles*. 

www.webmin.com webmin should already be on your box... go to
https://your.ip.number.here:1 (note the https not http) and login
with root  and root's passwd.  Under servers you'll find tools to admin
apache.  As for HTML, well, use the composer in Mozilla... It's a pretty
good WYSIWYG tool.

James
 
 
 Thx for all you guys' help!  I hope to get this working soon...lord
 knows I've learned alot since I asked what I thought was a simple
 question. Heh, never underestimate the power of linux to make it
 complex fast :)
 
 Femme
 
 



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-26 Thread FemmeFatale

Jeferson Lopes Zacco wrote:
 
 Femme wrote:
 
 
  *giggles* Hacks are cool.  Thx mucho James.  I'll try your idea /or
  ndiscreets.  Not sure which yet will yield better results.
 
  As an aside, any chance someone can point me to a newbie-fied apache
  install/maintenance URL?  I'm pretty useless with HTML/web
  stuff...having never tried it, but am a fast learner *Smiles*.
 
  Thx for all you guys' help!  I hope to get this working soon...lord
  knows I've learned alot since I asked what I thought was a simple
  question. Heh, never underestimate the power of linux to make it complex
  fast :)
 
  Femme
 
 Guess you really didn't notice they both suggested the same thing (ops,
 include me and Civ also)? James gave you a nice tip that apache should
 be configured to actually follow symlinks, but if I remember it well
 that's the default behaviour.
 
 Wooky

Sorta noticed, yes.  Is why I thank you all :) 

I'm still unsure of some things and don't always understand things right
off either.  A failing of mine... :)  

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-26 Thread FemmeFatale

James wrote:
 
 On Sat, 25 May 2002 22:25:10 -0600

 
  *giggles* Hacks are cool.  Thx mucho James.  I'll try your idea /or
  ndiscreets.  Not sure which yet will yield better results.
 
  As an aside, any chance someone can point me to a newbie-fied apache
  install/maintenance URL?  I'm pretty useless with HTML/web
  stuff...having never tried it, but am a fast learner *Smiles*.
 
 www.webmin.com webmin should already be on your box... go to
 https://your.ip.number.here:1 (note the https not http) and login
 with root  and root's passwd.  Under servers you'll find tools to admin
 apache.  As for HTML, well, use the composer in Mozilla... It's a pretty
 good WYSIWYG tool.
 
 James
 

Hm... Webmin scared me last time I used it... lots of things in there to
screw up.  But I'l give it another go, thx James.

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-26 Thread nDiScReEt

 Guess you really didn't notice they both suggested the same thing (ops,
 include me and Civ also)? James gave you a nice tip that apache should
 be configured to actually follow symlinks, but if I remember it well
 that's the default behaviour.


 Wooky

Almost, the other guys suggestion was close but scary. His method created a 
symlink directory named as the default server doc file itself! ...and at the 
root of the directory tree! Making the server useless to serve other docs 
properly. He would have to change the default from index.html to 
default.html, index.php, or something to that effect. My way is best and 
safest of us two. Wooky, you are correct that apache is configured to follow 
symlinks by default.

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread David Relson

At 10:04 PM 5/24/02, Femme wrote:


Yes I'm seeing 1433 turn up alot along with some suspicious ports :(

Don't know what to do about it I reconfigured Bastille intoa  more
paranoid mode, and since I've done that 20 mins ago, it seems to be
holding up much more like the BrickWall its supposed to be.

Crossing my fingers this continues.  I will run linux for a day or so 
see if this Firewall I just did in Linux will work as well as I hope it
shall.  Ty for your info.

What is 1433 anyway?  Sorry but i'm totally clueless :(


File /etc/services lists all the tcp and udp services, i.e. gives the names 
and port numbers.  Once you know the name of the service, the apropos 
command and google are resources for more info.




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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread Femme

On Fri, 24 May 2002 22:59:13 -0700
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually pretty easy.  cd to /var/www/html move any index.xxx files to
 index.xxx.old then put the files you want to share in this directory. 
 voila when people go to http://your.ip.number they get a list of files
 and can then http them down.(the old right click save as routine) 
 Quick and dirty.  The default action in apache et all is that when the
 index files aren't there just give a list of what is.
 
 James
 


OK James you piqued my intellectual stupidity switch. Im going to try
this idea (however hare-brained I think it is :), and let the list know
I guess.  Caveat: if i come screaming back here to the list with no hair
left its all YOUR fault ;p

Question:  The drive all the info is on is a FAT32 30GB partition of a
60GB drive.  You said i should dump all teh files into a directory
(/var/www/html) yet I know they won't fit in here because my Linux
partition is only 10GB total. So...is there a way to point apache or
something to that drives directory  tell it to serve files from where
they are now?  That is:  My mp3 directory is on /hdb1/mp3.  Will apache
be able to find/point to? that directory  just show users to that
directory when they login?  Let them d/l their files, logoff.  As I
cannot put all those mp3's on my linux partition thats the best idea I
have. 

Any help? :)

Thx 
Femme



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread Hicham A.

Hi Femme!

On Sat, 25 May 2002, Femme wrote:

 
 OK James you piqued my intellectual stupidity switch. Im going to try
 this idea (however hare-brained I think it is :), and let the list know
 I guess.  Caveat: if i come screaming back here to the list with no hair
 left its all YOUR fault ;p
 
 Question:  The drive all the info is on is a FAT32 30GB partition of a
 60GB drive.  You said i should dump all teh files into a directory
 (/var/www/html) yet I know they won't fit in here because my Linux
 partition is only 10GB total. So...is there a way to point apache or
 something to that drives directory  tell it to serve files from where
 they are now?  That is:  My mp3 directory is on /hdb1/mp3.  Will apache
 be able to find/point to? that directory  just show users to that
 directory when they login?  Let them d/l their files, logoff.  As I
 cannot put all those mp3's on my linux partition thats the best idea I
 have. 
 
 Any help? :)
 
 Thx 
 Femme
 

If you have enough space, you can try this:
mkdir ~/public_html
and copy all your mp3 dir there

To access the page:
http://your-ip/~your-login/mp3

for example, if my login is hicham, I'll try:
http://my-ip/~hicham/mp3



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread civileme

Femme wrote:

On Fri, 24 May 2002 22:59:13 -0700
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Actually pretty easy.  cd to /var/www/html move any index.xxx files to
index.xxx.old then put the files you want to share in this directory. 
voila when people go to http://your.ip.number they get a list of files
and can then http them down.(the old right click save as routine) 
Quick and dirty.  The default action in apache et all is that when the
index files aren't there just give a list of what is.

James



OK James you piqued my intellectual stupidity switch. Im going to try
this idea (however hare-brained I think it is :), and let the list know
I guess.  Caveat: if i come screaming back here to the list with no hair
left its all YOUR fault ;p

Question:  The drive all the info is on is a FAT32 30GB partition of a
60GB drive.  You said i should dump all teh files into a directory
(/var/www/html) yet I know they won't fit in here because my Linux
partition is only 10GB total. So...is there a way to point apache or
something to that drives directory  tell it to serve files from where
they are now?  That is:  My mp3 directory is on /hdb1/mp3.  Will apache
be able to find/point to? that directory  just show users to that
directory when they login?  Let them d/l their files, logoff.  As I
cannot put all those mp3's on my linux partition thats the best idea I
have. 

Any help? :)

Thx 
Femme




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Ummm, well, you could open a konqueror window (File manager super-user mode)

split the screen right-left
put one screen on your mp3 files
put one screen on /var/www/html

select the files you want in the mp3 collection
drag them all over to the other window
say Link instead of copy or move

Linux is nice that way :-)

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread WOOkY


-Mensagem Original-
De: Hicham A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada em: sábado, 25 de maio de 2002 19:08
Assunto: Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

I'm sorry I didn't quite follow what are you trying to do... you just want
to access files from your Win partition from Apache? Can't you just symlink
the directories?

Wooky






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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread Femme

On Sat, 25 May 2002 19:43:23 -0300
WOOkY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 -Mensagem Original-
 De: Hicham A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviada em: sábado, 25 de maio de 2002 19:08
 Assunto: Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]
 
 I'm sorry I didn't quite follow what are you trying to do... you just
 want to access files from your Win partition from Apache? Can't you
 just symlink the directories?
 
 Wooky
 

I'm trying to make a ftp-like thing for ppl on the lists.  So I can
serve small files to friends  list ppl here.

What was suggested was using Apache for this, dumping files into a
direrctory  Using it that way.  Unfortunately that will not work as my
Linux partition is too small to hold teh files.

Civilme seems to have given me an answer though (TY Luv).

I will try his suggestion next me thinks.  Right up there when/if I
figue out how to install/use apache without letting someone into my
system.  I don't need hackers today :)




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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread WOOkY

Actually it was the same suggestion I gave... since he is a nicer guy than I
am, he just told you how to do it as well. :^) Of course, I'd rather do it
at the console, but that's the beauty of linux: freedom of choice. Good
Luck.

Wooky/Jeferson L. Zacco
  I'm sorry I didn't quite follow what are you trying to do... you just
  want to access files from your Win partition from Apache? Can't you
  just symlink the directories?
 
  Wooky
 

 I'm trying to make a ftp-like thing for ppl on the lists.  So I can
 serve small files to friends  list ppl here.

 What was suggested was using Apache for this, dumping files into a
 direrctory  Using it that way.  Unfortunately that will not work as my
 Linux partition is too small to hold teh files.

 Civilme seems to have given me an answer though (TY Luv).

 I will try his suggestion next me thinks.  Right up there when/if I
 figue out how to install/use apache without letting someone into my
 system.  I don't need hackers today :)









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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread James

Check your commonhttpd.conf file, (/etc/httpd/conf/ ) but usually the
default allows you to follow symlinks (in the past) if not look for 

# Each directory to which Apache has access, can be configured with
respect# to which services and features are allowed and/or disabled in
that# directory (and its subdirectories). 
#
# First, we configure the default to be a very restrictive set of 
# permissions.  
#
# Also, for security, we disable indexes globally
#
Directory /
Options -Indexes FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
/Directory


and make it look like the above.  Then go to var/www/html and type ln -s
/absolute/path/to/my/directory directory  This will then be the same as
moving them physically there.  It's a hack but it works.

James


On Sat, 25 May 2002 15:24:08 -0600
Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 24 May 2002 22:59:13 -0700
 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Actually pretty easy.  cd to /var/www/html move any index.xxx files
  to index.xxx.old then put the files you want to share in this
  directory. voila when people go to http://your.ip.number they get a
  list of files and can then http them down.(the old right click save
  as routine) Quick and dirty.  The default action in apache et all is
  that when the index files aren't there just give a list of what is.
  
  James
  
 
 
 OK James you piqued my intellectual stupidity switch. Im going to try
 this idea (however hare-brained I think it is :), and let the list
 know I guess.  Caveat: if i come screaming back here to the list with
 no hair left its all YOUR fault ;p
 
 Question:  The drive all the info is on is a FAT32 30GB partition of a
 60GB drive.  You said i should dump all teh files into a directory
 (/var/www/html) yet I know they won't fit in here because my Linux
 partition is only 10GB total. So...is there a way to point apache or
 something to that drives directory  tell it to serve files from where
 they are now?  That is:  My mp3 directory is on /hdb1/mp3.  Will
 apache be able to find/point to? that directory  just show users to
 that directory when they login?  Let them d/l their files, logoff.  As
 I cannot put all those mp3's on my linux partition thats the best idea
 I have. 
 
 Any help? :)
 
 Thx 
 Femme
 
 



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(fwd) Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread Hicham A.

I think that nDiScReEt wanted to send this mail here,
so I forwarded it.
 
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Subject: Re: honeyport/shutdown  [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Maximum Time Unlimited


 If you have enough space, you can try this:
 mkdir ~/public_html
 and copy all your mp3 dir there

 To access the page:
 http://your-ip/~your-login/mp3

 for example, if my login is hicham, I'll try:
 http://my-ip/~hicham/mp3

Or you can symlink the directory. Let us say that the other partition that 
contains the mp3 is mounted on windows. You would link the mp3 directory like 
so (YOu would already be in the /var/www/html directory):


ln -s /mnt/windows/share/mp3 mp3

This directory where your mp3s are located will have to be mounted first.

HTH

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Re: (fwd) Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread Femme

On Sun, 26 May 2002 00:13:14 -0400
Hicham A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think that nDiScReEt wanted to send this mail here,
 so I forwarded it.
  
 Or you can symlink the directory. Let us say that the other partition
 that contains the mp3 is mounted on windows. You would link the mp3
 directory like so (YOu would already be in the /var/www/html
 directory):
 
 
 ln -s /mnt/windows/share/mp3 mp3
 
 This directory where your mp3s are located will have to be mounted
 first.
 
 HTH
 

Allrighty!  This is what I was looking for !  TY nDiscreet ! :)  And
mucho thx  hugs to you Hiram ;)

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-25 Thread Femme

On Sat, 25 May 2002 20:50:16 -0700
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Check your commonhttpd.conf file, (/etc/httpd/conf/ ) but usually the
 default allows you to follow symlinks (in the past) if not look for 
 
 # Each directory to which Apache has access, can be configured with
 respect# to which services and features are allowed and/or disabled in
 that# directory (and its subdirectories). 
 #
 # First, we configure the default to be a very restrictive set of 
 # permissions.  
 #
 # Also, for security, we disable indexes globally
 #
 Directory /
 Options -Indexes FollowSymLinks
 AllowOverride None
 /Directory
 
 
 and make it look like the above.  Then go to var/www/html and type ln
 -s/absolute/path/to/my/directory directory  This will then be the same
 as moving them physically there.  It's a hack but it works.
 
 James
 

*giggles* Hacks are cool.  Thx mucho James.  I'll try your idea /or
ndiscreets.  Not sure which yet will yield better results.  

As an aside, any chance someone can point me to a newbie-fied apache
install/maintenance URL?  I'm pretty useless with HTML/web
stuff...having never tried it, but am a fast learner *Smiles*.  

Thx for all you guys' help!  I hope to get this working soon...lord
knows I've learned alot since I asked what I thought was a simple
question. Heh, never underestimate the power of linux to make it complex
fast :)

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread FemmeFatale

Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
 On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:15:52 -0800 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Load up the honeyport for Nimda and the shutdown script for codered and
  see what happens
 
 Civileme,
 
 Where can I find the tools you're referring to...?  I have my own
 (http://pfortin.com/Linux/HoneyPort -- needs updating ) and am interested
 in anyone else's defense mechanisms...
 
 As to reflecting/responding to an attack, here's my position:
 http://pfortin.com/Linux/MSVTS/ -- in a nutshell:  SELF-DEFENSE!  :^)
 
 Thanks,
 Pierre
 

BTW, fwiw I found most of these kids are trying to get to my NETBios * i
do share a HDD with my g/f* and ssh/unix ports.  Makes me wonder if it
isn't someone on one of the lists..cause this started not long after i
posted the info on the ftp. :\

*hopes i'm wrong...sigh*
-- 
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We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux.  I've always liked that
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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread J. Craig Woods

FemmeFatale wrote:
 
 BTW, fwiw I found most of these kids are trying to get to my NETBios * i
 do share a HDD with my g/f* and ssh/unix ports.  Makes me wonder if it
 isn't someone on one of the lists..cause this started not long after i
 posted the info on the ftp. :\
 
 *hopes i'm wrong...sigh*
 

Femme, you need to talk to us. Am I the only one that feels your 
postings are somewhat cryptic. Are you being hit with an ddos type of 
attack? Why, if I might ask, are your running a ftp service using 
windows? Anyone here could refer you to many sites that would advise you 
against such an activity. Are you saying that you run your netbios on 
the internet, and what is a g/f*. Maybe it is just me that is out to 
lunch but if you want some help, you will need to be a bit more 
forthcoming

drjung

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread Brian


On Fri, 24 May 2002 18:48:41 -0600
Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 24 May 2002 19:19:47 -0500
 J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Femme, you need to talk to us. Am I the only one that feels your 
  postings are somewhat cryptic. Are you being hit with an ddos type of 
  attack? Why, if I might ask, are your running a ftp service using 
  windows? Anyone here could refer you to many sites that would advise
  you against such an activity. Are you saying that you run your netbios
  on the internet, and what is a g/f*. Maybe it is just me that is out
  to lunch but if you want some help, you will need to be a bit more 
  forthcoming
  
  drjung
  
 
 Sorry i forget my shorthand isn't used by all.
 
 I'm running a small ftp for people on windows because thats all I knew,
 until recently finding Linux.  Linux is perfectly capable of doing this
 but i don't know how to use an ftp server in it.  So, I use windows for
 now.  Its a small ftp server using Serv-U as the server itself.
 
 As for Netbios, whats happening is my logs say someone is trying to get
 through to it.  Don't know why.  I thought it was because I share a hard
 drive with my girlfriend at home on a 3 computer LAN.  I'm behind a
 firewall called zone alarm, and it logs any connect attempts rather
 thoroughly.  I also have a log analyzing program that tells me what the
 logs mean, who's IP it was that tried to connect, type of connection
 logged, etc.
 
 What I want is simply to run a small ftp server for ppl on these lists 
 for close friends to connect to for documents  music.  Windows until
 the last 3 or 4 days, has done a fine job of it.  However in the last
 few days I've been getting knocked off line for whatever reason, and I
 suspect its because of this ftp thats up  running.  Its the only
 plausible explanation I have other than my ISP is screwing up.
 
 I did call the ISP to see if there were any problems  the automated
 service they use told me there seem to be none in my area.
 
 Today I booted into linux, setup teh Bastille firewall  made it pretty
 secure against outside interference.  I'm hoping that if it is a
 hacker/cracker trying to gain entry, bastille will log the attempts more
 thoroughly so I may find out what to do.  If its just my isp I'm hoping
 that will be logged as well somehow.  I also hope if it is a cracker
 trying to get in, Bastille will do a better job of stopping them  I
 won't get knocked offline as was happening in Windows.
 
 Sorry if I haven't been very clear, been on painkillers for two days. 
 Today is the first day I've got a clearer mind  I hope this explanation
 suffices for you Dr.Jung *s*.
 
 Thx for your help, if you can offer any on how to setup a small ftp (or
 something) to do what I need it to do.
 
 Femme
 

You might want to try ProFTP for your ftp server on linux.

It's pretty normal for you to see connection attempts blocked by zone alarm -
you are using visual zone to show the logs?  Right now you might be seeing more
attempts to connect to port 1433 than anything else unless your ISP is already
blocking that port.

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread civileme

FemmeFatale wrote:

Pierre Fortin wrote:

On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:15:52 -0800 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Load up the honeyport for Nimda and the shutdown script for codered and
see what happens

Civileme,

Where can I find the tools you're referring to...?  I have my own
(http://pfortin.com/Linux/HoneyPort -- needs updating ) and am interested
in anyone else's defense mechanisms...

As to reflecting/responding to an attack, here's my position:
http://pfortin.com/Linux/MSVTS/ -- in a nutshell:  SELF-DEFENSE!  :^)

Thanks,
Pierre


BTW, fwiw I found most of these kids are trying to get to my NETBios * i
do share a HDD with my g/f* and ssh/unix ports.  Makes me wonder if it
isn't someone on one of the lists..cause this started not long after i
posted the info on the ftp. :\

*hopes i'm wrong...sigh*




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Hmmm, I seem to recall Microsoft had an anti-spoofing feature for ISPs 
using NT that hit port 139 and shut you down if the response wasn't what 
the program thougt it should be  (shut down linux workstations all over 
the parts of Alaska served by a cable modem company for a while, at 
intervals of 4 hours, and then a reboot into windows was necessary to 
get the link activated), but this sounds  like lots more queries aimed 
at 139.

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread Femme

On Fri, 24 May 2002 18:51:02 -0700
Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Fri, 24 May 2002 18:48:41 -0600
 Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 24 May 2002 19:19:47 -0500
  J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   Femme, you need to talk to us. Am I the only one that feels your 
   postings are somewhat cryptic. Are you being hit with an ddos type
   of attack? Why, if I might ask, are your running a ftp service
   using windows? Anyone here could refer you to many sites that
   would advise you against such an activity. Are you saying that you
   run your netbios on the internet, and what is a g/f*. Maybe it
   is just me that is out to lunch but if you want some help, you
   will need to be a bit more forthcoming
   
   drjung
   
  
  Sorry i forget my shorthand isn't used by all.
  
  I'm running a small ftp for people on windows because thats all I
  knew, until recently finding Linux.  Linux is perfectly capable of
  doing this but i don't know how to use an ftp server in it.  So, I
  use windows for now.  Its a small ftp server using Serv-U as the
  server itself.
  
  As for Netbios, whats happening is my logs say someone is trying to
  get through to it.  Don't know why.  I thought it was because I
  share a hard drive with my girlfriend at home on a 3 computer LAN. 
  I'm behind a firewall called zone alarm, and it logs any connect
  attempts rather thoroughly.  I also have a log analyzing program
  that tells me what the logs mean, who's IP it was that tried to
  connect, type of connection logged, etc.
  
  What I want is simply to run a small ftp server for ppl on these
  lists  for close friends to connect to for documents  music. 
  Windows until the last 3 or 4 days, has done a fine job of it. 
  However in the last few days I've been getting knocked off line for
  whatever reason, and I suspect its because of this ftp thats up 
  running.  Its the only plausible explanation I have other than my
  ISP is screwing up.
  
  I did call the ISP to see if there were any problems  the automated
  service they use told me there seem to be none in my area.
  
  Today I booted into linux, setup teh Bastille firewall  made it
  pretty secure against outside interference.  I'm hoping that if it
  is a hacker/cracker trying to gain entry, bastille will log the
  attempts more thoroughly so I may find out what to do.  If its just
  my isp I'm hoping that will be logged as well somehow.  I also hope
  if it is a cracker trying to get in, Bastille will do a better job
  of stopping them  I won't get knocked offline as was happening in
  Windows.
  
  Sorry if I haven't been very clear, been on painkillers for two
  days. Today is the first day I've got a clearer mind  I hope this
  explanation suffices for you Dr.Jung *s*.
  
  Thx for your help, if you can offer any on how to setup a small ftp
  (or something) to do what I need it to do.
  
  Femme
  
 
 You might want to try ProFTP for your ftp server on linux.
 
 It's pretty normal for you to see connection attempts blocked by zone
 alarm - you are using visual zone to show the logs?  Right now you
 might be seeing more attempts to connect to port 1433 than anything
 else unless your ISP is already blocking that port.
 
 --
 Brian - [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Yes I'm seeing 1433 turn up alot along with some suspicious ports :(

Don't know what to do about it I reconfigured Bastille intoa  more
paranoid mode, and since I've done that 20 mins ago, it seems to be
holding up much more like the BrickWall its supposed to be.

Crossing my fingers this continues.  I will run linux for a day or so 
see if this Firewall I just did in Linux will work as well as I hope it
shall.  Ty for your info.

What is 1433 anyway?  Sorry but i'm totally clueless :(

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread Femme

On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:53:02 -0800
civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FemmeFatale wrote:
 
 Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
 On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:15:52 -0800 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Load up the honeyport for Nimda and the shutdown script for codered
 and see what happens
 
 Civileme,
 
 Where can I find the tools you're referring to...?  I have my own
 (http://pfortin.com/Linux/HoneyPort -- needs updating ) and am
 interested in anyone else's defense mechanisms...
 
 As to reflecting/responding to an attack, here's my position:
 http://pfortin.com/Linux/MSVTS/ -- in a nutshell:  SELF-DEFENSE! 
 :^)
 
 Thanks,
 Pierre
 
 
 BTW, fwiw I found most of these kids are trying to get to my NETBios
 * i do share a HDD with my g/f* and ssh/unix ports.  Makes me wonder
 if it isn't someone on one of the lists..cause this started not long
 after i posted the info on the ftp. :\
 
 *hopes i'm wrong...sigh*
 
 
 
 
 
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 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 
 Hmmm, I seem to recall Microsoft had an anti-spoofing feature for
 ISPs using NT that hit port 139 and shut you down if the response
 wasn't what the program thougt it should be  (shut down linux
 workstations all over the parts of Alaska served by a cable modem
 company for a while, at intervals of 4 hours, and then a reboot into
 windows was necessary to get the link activated), but this sounds 
 like lots more queries aimed at 139.
 
 Civileme
 

*nods* Got those ports being attacked too, as well as looking for SSH
ports  Some other obscure ports Unix/linux uses.  I don't know why
though... whats 139 Sorry i'm sorta half-aware/educated on security
(hangs my head sheepishly).

Help?  

Femme
 
 
 
 



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread Brian


On Fri, 24 May 2002 20:04:45 -0600
Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 24 May 2002 18:51:02 -0700
 Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  On Fri, 24 May 2002 18:48:41 -0600
  Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Fri, 24 May 2002 19:19:47 -0500
   J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Femme, you need to talk to us. Am I the only one that feels your 
postings are somewhat cryptic. Are you being hit with an ddos type
of attack? Why, if I might ask, are your running a ftp service
using windows? Anyone here could refer you to many sites that
would advise you against such an activity. Are you saying that you
run your netbios on the internet, and what is a g/f*. Maybe it
is just me that is out to lunch but if you want some help, you
will need to be a bit more forthcoming

drjung

   
   Sorry i forget my shorthand isn't used by all.
   
   I'm running a small ftp for people on windows because thats all I
   knew, until recently finding Linux.  Linux is perfectly capable of
   doing this but i don't know how to use an ftp server in it.  So, I
   use windows for now.  Its a small ftp server using Serv-U as the
   server itself.
   
   As for Netbios, whats happening is my logs say someone is trying to
   get through to it.  Don't know why.  I thought it was because I
   share a hard drive with my girlfriend at home on a 3 computer LAN. 
   I'm behind a firewall called zone alarm, and it logs any connect
   attempts rather thoroughly.  I also have a log analyzing program
   that tells me what the logs mean, who's IP it was that tried to
   connect, type of connection logged, etc.
   
   What I want is simply to run a small ftp server for ppl on these
   lists  for close friends to connect to for documents  music. 
   Windows until the last 3 or 4 days, has done a fine job of it. 
   However in the last few days I've been getting knocked off line for
   whatever reason, and I suspect its because of this ftp thats up 
   running.  Its the only plausible explanation I have other than my
   ISP is screwing up.
   
   I did call the ISP to see if there were any problems  the automated
   service they use told me there seem to be none in my area.
   
   Today I booted into linux, setup teh Bastille firewall  made it
   pretty secure against outside interference.  I'm hoping that if it
   is a hacker/cracker trying to gain entry, bastille will log the
   attempts more thoroughly so I may find out what to do.  If its just
   my isp I'm hoping that will be logged as well somehow.  I also hope
   if it is a cracker trying to get in, Bastille will do a better job
   of stopping them  I won't get knocked offline as was happening in
   Windows.
   
   Sorry if I haven't been very clear, been on painkillers for two
   days. Today is the first day I've got a clearer mind  I hope this
   explanation suffices for you Dr.Jung *s*.
   
   Thx for your help, if you can offer any on how to setup a small ftp
   (or something) to do what I need it to do.
   
   Femme
   
  
  You might want to try ProFTP for your ftp server on linux.
  
  It's pretty normal for you to see connection attempts blocked by zone
  alarm - you are using visual zone to show the logs?  Right now you
  might be seeing more attempts to connect to port 1433 than anything
  else unless your ISP is already blocking that port.
  
  --
  Brian - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Yes I'm seeing 1433 turn up alot along with some suspicious ports :(
 
 Don't know what to do about it I reconfigured Bastille intoa  more
 paranoid mode, and since I've done that 20 mins ago, it seems to be
 holding up much more like the BrickWall its supposed to be.
 
 Crossing my fingers this continues.  I will run linux for a day or so 
 see if this Firewall I just did in Linux will work as well as I hope it
 shall.  Ty for your info.
 
 What is 1433 anyway?  Sorry but i'm totally clueless :(
 
 Femme
 

1433 is the Microsoft SQL server port - lots of attacks going around trying to
gain access to sites which didn't set an administrator password.

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread James

On Fri, 24 May 2002 20:06:23 -0600
Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:53:02 -0800
 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  FemmeFatale wrote:
  
  Pierre Fortin wrote:
  
  On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:15:52 -0800 civileme
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Load up the honeyport for Nimda and the shutdown script for
  codered and see what happens
  
  Civileme,
  
  Where can I find the tools you're referring to...?  I have my own
  (http://pfortin.com/Linux/HoneyPort -- needs updating ) and am
  interested in anyone else's defense mechanisms...
  
  As to reflecting/responding to an attack, here's my position:
  http://pfortin.com/Linux/MSVTS/ -- in a nutshell:  SELF-DEFENSE! 
  :^)
  
  Thanks,
  Pierre
  
  
  BTW, fwiw I found most of these kids are trying to get to my
  NETBios* i do share a HDD with my g/f* and ssh/unix ports.  Makes
  me wonder if it isn't someone on one of the lists..cause this
  started not long after i posted the info on the ftp. :\
  
  *hopes i'm wrong...sigh*
  
  
  --
  --
  
  Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  
  Hmmm, I seem to recall Microsoft had an anti-spoofing feature for
  ISPs using NT that hit port 139 and shut you down if the response
  wasn't what the program thougt it should be  (shut down linux
  workstations all over the parts of Alaska served by a cable modem
  company for a while, at intervals of 4 hours, and then a reboot into
  windows was necessary to get the link activated), but this sounds 
  like lots more queries aimed at 139.
  
  Civileme
  
 
 *nods* Got those ports being attacked too, as well as looking for SSH
 ports  Some other obscure ports Unix/linux uses.  I don't know why
 though... whats 139 Sorry i'm sorta half-aware/educated on
 security(hangs my head sheepishly).
 

NetBios-ssn  do what I do cat /etc/services | grep xxx .. fast
way to find out what's what... *grin*

James

 Help?  
 
 Femme
  
  
  
  
 
 



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread James

If anyone is intrested I've got a script I put together when CodeRed was
hammmering away.  It sets up iptables or ipchains rules that block the
offending site.

James


On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:55:45 -0800
civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
 On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:15:52 -0800 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Load up the honeyport for Nimda and the shutdown script for codered
 and see what happens
 
 
 Civileme,
 
 Where can I find the tools you're referring to...?  I have my own
 (http://pfortin.com/Linux/HoneyPort -- needs updating ) and am
 interested in anyone else's defense mechanisms...
 
 As to reflecting/responding to an attack, here's my position: 
 http://pfortin.com/Linux/MSVTS/ -- in a nutshell:  SELF-DEFENSE!  :^)
 
 Thanks,
 Pierre
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 
 Thanks for the link--I have it bookmarked now.  Unfortunately I hit
 the Send button before I dredged it up, quite by accident.  I like
 the spirit of yours, kinda like my old spammers mailbox crush routine
 before they got smart and didn't try to use the same mailbox twice.
 
 Civileme
 
 
 
 
 



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Fri, 24 May 2002 20:50:52 -0700 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If anyone is intrested I've got a script I put together when CodeRed was
 hammmering away.  It sets up iptables or ipchains rules that block the
 offending site.

Where's the *fun* in that...?  I prefer 'self-defense' tactics...  :-}

If someone attacks you with a gun, it's legal to disarm them...
Try to disarm their machine if they use that...

Pierre

 
 James
 
 
 On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:55:45 -0800
 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Pierre Fortin wrote:
  
  On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:15:52 -0800 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
  Load up the honeyport for Nimda and the shutdown script for codered
  and see what happens
  
  
  Civileme,
  
  Where can I find the tools you're referring to...?  I have my own
  (http://pfortin.com/Linux/HoneyPort -- needs updating ) and am
  interested in anyone else's defense mechanisms...
  
  As to reflecting/responding to an attack, here's my position: 
  http://pfortin.com/Linux/MSVTS/ -- in a nutshell:  SELF-DEFENSE!  :^)
  
  Thanks,
  Pierre
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  
  Thanks for the link--I have it bookmarked now.  Unfortunately I hit
  the Send button before I dredged it up, quite by accident.  I like
  the spirit of yours, kinda like my old spammers mailbox crush routine
  before they got smart and didn't try to use the same mailbox twice.
  
  Civileme
  
  
  
  
  
 
 



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread danrembolt

Got a script to attack the attacker?   I've been looking for one.   

 On Fri, 24 May 2002 20:50:52 -0700 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If anyone is intrested I've got a script I put together when CodeRed was
  hammmering away.  It sets up iptables or ipchains rules that block the
  offending site.
 
 Where's the *fun* in that...?  I prefer 'self-defense' tactics...  :-}
 
 If someone attacks you with a gun, it's legal to disarm them...
 Try to disarm their machine if they use that...
 
 Pierre
 
  
  James
  
  
  On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:55:45 -0800
  civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Pierre Fortin wrote:
   
   On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:15:52 -0800 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
   Load up the honeyport for Nimda and the shutdown script for codered
   and see what happens
   
   
   Civileme,
   
   Where can I find the tools you're referring to...?  I have my own
   (http://pfortin.com/Linux/HoneyPort -- needs updating ) and am
   interested in anyone else's defense mechanisms...
   
   As to reflecting/responding to an attack, here's my position: 
   http://pfortin.com/Linux/MSVTS/ -- in a nutshell:  SELF-DEFENSE!  :^)
   
   Thanks,
   Pierre
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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   Thanks for the link--I have it bookmarked now.  Unfortunately I hit
   the Send button before I dredged it up, quite by accident.  I like
   the spirit of yours, kinda like my old spammers mailbox crush routine
   before they got smart and didn't try to use the same mailbox twice.
   
   Civileme
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
 
 



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread Femme

On Fri, 24 May 2002 20:49:21 -0700

  *nods* Got those ports being attacked too, as well as looking for
  SSH ports  Some other obscure ports Unix/linux uses.  I don't know
  why though... whats 139 Sorry i'm sorta half-aware/educated on
  security(hangs my head sheepishly).
  
 
 NetBios-ssn  do what I do cat /etc/services | grep xxx .. fast
 way to find out what's what... *grin*
 
 James
 
  Help?  
  
  Femme


Dunno if you were serious but... did that... Big list of stuff!

wow... wish i knew what i'm looking for... and btw, linux has been up
for about 4 hours now, with only 1 when the Net went down.  Restarted
teh daemon, works fine.  After I made Bastille sit up  be a paranoid
little SOB, it seems I'm fending off nicely whoever is attacking me.  Or
they gave up. :)

Where do I look to see what kind of stuff Bastille logs?  I use
Portsentry too but don't know how it works or exactly how to
communicate/query it so I can see what its doing too.

any clues? hints? knowledgable donations :)

Femme

(next i need to figure how to implement what civilme suggested with
Apache...yeck. doesn't sound fun).



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread nDiScReEt

On Friday 24 May 2002 10:50 pm, you wrote:
 If anyone is intrested I've got a script I put together when CodeRed was
 hammmering away.  It sets up iptables or ipchains rules that block the
 offending site.

 James

I'm interested.


 On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:55:45 -0800

 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Pierre Fortin wrote:
  On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:15:52 -0800 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Load up the honeyport for Nimda and the shutdown script for codered
  and see what happens
  
  Civileme,
  
  Where can I find the tools you're referring to...?  I have my own
  (http://pfortin.com/Linux/HoneyPort -- needs updating ) and am
  interested in anyone else's defense mechanisms...
  
  As to reflecting/responding to an attack, here's my position:
  http://pfortin.com/Linux/MSVTS/ -- in a nutshell:  SELF-DEFENSE!  :^)
  
  Thanks,
  Pierre
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 
  Thanks for the link--I have it bookmarked now.  Unfortunately I hit
  the Send button before I dredged it up, quite by accident.  I like
  the spirit of yours, kinda like my old spammers mailbox crush routine
  before they got smart and didn't try to use the same mailbox twice.
 
  Civileme

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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread James

On Fri, 24 May 2002 23:22:29 -0600
Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 24 May 2002 20:49:21 -0700
 
   *nods* Got those ports being attacked too, as well as looking for
   SSH ports  Some other obscure ports Unix/linux uses.  I don't
   know why though... whats 139 Sorry i'm sorta
   half-aware/educated on security(hangs my head sheepishly).
   
  
  NetBios-ssn  do what I do cat /etc/services | grep xxx ..
  fast way to find out what's what... *grin*
  
  James
  
   Help?  
   
   Femme
 
 
 Dunno if you were serious but... did that... Big list of stuff!
 
 wow... wish i knew what i'm looking for... and btw, linux has been up
 for about 4 hours now, with only 1 when the Net went down.  Restarted
 teh daemon, works fine.  After I made Bastille sit up  be a paranoid
 little SOB, it seems I'm fending off nicely whoever is attacking me. 
 Or they gave up. :)
 
 Where do I look to see what kind of stuff Bastille logs?  I use
 Portsentry too but don't know how it works or exactly how to
 communicate/query it so I can see what its doing too.
 
 any clues? hints? knowledgable donations :)
 
 Femme
 
 (next i need to figure how to implement what civilme suggested with
 Apache...yeck. doesn't sound fun). 

Actually pretty easy.  cd to /var/www/html move any index.xxx files to
index.xxx.old then put the files you want to share in this directory. 
voila when people go to http://your.ip.number they get a list of files
and can then http them down.(the old right click save as routine)  Quick
and dirty.  The default action in apache et all is that when the index
files aren't there just give a list of what is.

James

 
 



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Re: honeyport/shutdown [was: Re: [expert] OT, my ftp site]

2002-05-24 Thread James

On Fri, 24 May 2002 21:43:37 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Got a script to attack the attacker?   I've been looking for one.  

Nah I'm being a good little boy.  Actually once my box is covered I
don't care.  Someone did write something that when his/her box was
attacked by codered it used the codered backdoor and patched the server.
 Wish I knew where this was. 

James
 
 
  On Fri, 24 May 2002 20:50:52 -0700 James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   If anyone is intrested I've got a script I put together when
   CodeRed was hammmering away.  It sets up iptables or ipchains
   rules that block the offending site.
  
  Where's the *fun* in that...?  I prefer 'self-defense' tactics... 
  :-}
  
  If someone attacks you with a gun, it's legal to disarm them...
  Try to disarm their machine if they use that...
  
  Pierre
  
   
   James
   
   
   On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:55:45 -0800
   civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Pierre Fortin wrote:

On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:15:52 -0800 civileme
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Load up the honeyport for Nimda and the shutdown script for
codered and see what happens


Civileme,

Where can I find the tools you're referring to...?  I have my
own(http://pfortin.com/Linux/HoneyPort -- needs updating ) and
am interested in anyone else's defense mechanisms...

As to reflecting/responding to an attack, here's my position: 
http://pfortin.com/Linux/MSVTS/ -- in a nutshell: 
SELF-DEFENSE!  :^)

Thanks,
Pierre




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Thanks for the link--I have it bookmarked now.  Unfortunately I
hit the Send button before I dredged it up, quite by accident.
 I like the spirit of yours, kinda like my old spammers mailbox
 crush routine before they got smart and didn't try to use the
 same mailbox twice.

Civileme





   
   
  
  
 
 
 
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