[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was very heartened and warmed by Mayor Wynn's statements reported in today's Austin American Statesman that our NOLA guests are welcome to stay in Austin for as long as they like. The mayor went on to say that Austin's infrastructure, geography and economy can absorb any NOLA guests who want to stay and make Austin their home. I then spoke with a number of Austin City Police officers some friends, some I just walked up to on Sixth Street. They blurted out that there has been a sudden increase in car breakins downtown starting the day the buses carrying our guests arrived. There have also been a sizeable number of arrests of people for smoking crack, right out in the open on Red River and Neches just north of the Salvation Army and ARCH. They gave their current residence as one of our two shelters for NOLA guests and previous to that NOLA. I had heard on the radio station in Georgetown which carries interviews and other such programs of such people as the owner of PrisonPlanet.com, a website Rick quoted a few days ago, that there was a concern that suddenly the country is filled with people with who knows what kind of past. I just blew it off until I heard about the crime wave downtown appears to be experiencing. Perhpas MUM and VC weren't so unfeeling and cruel after all. Or maybe you're having one of your Elitism Attacks again. Relax, take two yagnas, and call me in the morning. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. bostonbob Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rare honesty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got it the wrong way round. Reynolds takes a risk because his small hands, he implies, may not be up the task of covering the large thing that needs to be covered. I wonder why Turquoise got that wrong. Eager to find consolation in the fact that there are others of small dimensions, perhaps? No, it has long been obvious to me that there are people in the world who have things smaller than mine. Minds, for instance. I saw a funny, self-deprecating comment from a guy who was obviously, and surprisingly, comfortable enough with himself and his image to poke fun at it. All you can see is another guy bragging about the size of his dick. I'll stick to my interpret- ation, thanks. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once saw Burt Reynolds on a talk show, and was a little impressed by how natural and self-effacing he was. The subject of Oscars came up, and the host said he felt Burt's best shot at one (at the time) had been in Deliverance. Burt agreed, but reminded the host that the film came out the same year as his semi- nude foldout photo in Cosmo, with Burt reclining à la Playboy, with just one hand covering his privates. He said that he'd gotten a lot of flack from Academy members over that, and it probably killed any chance he might have had of winning. But then he said, Still, I don't regret it. After all, it was a pretty risky thing for me to do -- I have very small hands. Big laugh. Sometimes you can avoid being perceived as a big dick by pretending to have a small one. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vanity plate seen on a Hummer in Aspen: http://bbs.chrismoore.com/images/splicense.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Collins stated a while ago, in response to my questioning why he paid the pundits so much of my (~~$40,000) and others' money to the pundits, that he felt consciousness of the pundits was very important in yagyas, implying that money buys consciousness. And that paying the priests as much as the Prime Minister of India makes per hour guarantees high level of consciousness. This is not meant to attack Ben, but let the chips fall where they may. I felt perpetual very gruesome unstressing during Puja.net's group, individual and stolen (my name was added to someone else's yagya without the sponsor's knowledge) yagyas. This is the 2nd day of my Yagna by Choice group Ganesh yagna. I have been feeling bliss. That's it. Bliss. Cool. Good for you. You have also spent part of your blissful day making one of the most elitist and non-compassionate posts I've ever read, about the invaders of Austin. $40,000? Seems to me you could have achieved your current state of attention just by buying a $3.95 paperback from the Ku Klux Klan or a similar white supremicist group and memorizing it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. And... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rare honesty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got it the wrong way round. Reynolds takes a risk because his small hands, he implies, may not be up the task of covering the large thing that needs to be covered. Exactly. I see Feste is not the only one here with a my dick is bigger than your dick fetish. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rare honesty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got it the wrong way round. Reynolds takes a risk because his small hands, he implies, may not be up the task of covering the large thing that needs to be covered. I wonder why Turquoise got that wrong. Eager to find consolation in the fact that there are others of small dimensions, perhaps? No, it has long been obvious to me that there are people in the world who have things smaller than mine. Minds, for instance. I saw a funny, self-deprecating comment from a guy who was obviously, and surprisingly, comfortable enough with himself and his image to poke fun at it. All you can see is another guy bragging about the size of his dick. I'll stick to my interpret- ation, thanks. :-) It's a two-way joke. Either his hands are too small to hide his dick, OR, he's indicating that he's got a stereotypical small dick because big-handed guys have big dicks. Either way, it was a risk to pose like that... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow the most miserable creatures come out during the worst times. Well said. Welcome back, dude. Hope you're Ok, and that this tragedy hasn't affected you too badly. If you get a chance, fill us in on what it's like to be from New Orleans at a time like this. Unc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Impeach Bush Before More Die
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope David Lynches foundation is beyond the control of the TMO . Maybe a few people can actually be taught. Its an odd foundation. Like his films. But the have an intriguing structure. Wouldn't it be odd and funny and awesome if a chain smoking, 20 coffee-cup drinking director of primo lesbian-love scenes actually created the foundation that generated the AoE? I'm afraid he won't long enuff! Brhman is laughing tonight. It would surely make me smile! JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Conspiracy theories
An interesting thing. My recollection is that I was responding with sarcasm to the claim that we don't know that MMY was Gurudev's right hand man. Dana seems to confirm that MMY *did* have a great deal of influence due to his position as Gurudev's secretary, which was all I meant. Secretaries are always powerful, whether the boss acknowledges this or not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dana Sawyer's comments: -- Forwarded Message From: Dana Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:21:06 -0400 To: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MMY Conspiracy theories Rick, I don't know who wrote the comments on the first comment below but they are quite accurate about the gripe that exists within Swarupananda's camp. I'll make a couple of specific comments below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The recognized Shankaracharya (the one most here seem to prefer) referred to MMY as an ashram clerk. The rumor was that this clerk managed to conspire with a cook to kill Gurudev. AFter the will wasproduced, this clerk was so powerful as to get the first guy on the list proclaimed Shankaracharya overthe protestations (if you believe what everyone here appears to) liaterally everyother disciple of Gurudev besides MMY and the cook. First, the person's point here seems to be that it is implausible that a cook and a clerk were so powerful that they could usurp the Shankaracaryaship. This is both true and false. Even throwing out the idea that Brahmananda was given poison, it is possible that Mahesh, as secretary, could have skewed the will and then had a less than lucid Brahmananda sign a different document then he thought he was signing. Beyond that it's important to recognize, for good or bad, that those who felt the document was a forgery formed the much larger and more influential group. They immediately took matters into their own hands and backed Krishnabodhashrama as the new Shankaracarya, so for them all that was lost was property, not the position. See? When the guy below says that, possession is nine tenths of the law he's correct with regards to the government. The Shantanada group had Brahmananda's will with his signature on it and that's all that the government filing office in Allahabad cared about. The cook was Shantanand, I beleive, yes who was first on the list, and became Shankarachara -- so it was a bit more interesting, with a thicker plot -- than your account suggests. yes, again. And it appears from some testimony regarding the will, that GD was not very lucid in his last days. Plausibly the effect of sudden poisons introduced. Every testimony that I've heard, on either side of the dispute, holds that Brahmananda was barely able to communicate in his last days - whether there was poison involved or not. hypothetically, if a signed list appeared, it would give enough nominal clearance during the chaos of GD's passing, to enable a new shankaracharaya to be rushed into GD's quarters. Which is what happened. Then it became a game of possession is 9/10s of the law. Exactly right. and in the subsequent court case (the first one), the only issue for the court was whether or not the person on the will, Shantananda, was acting in accord with the public trust that was established. The court, as a secular body, had not interest or concern for figuring out whether or not Shantananda should own the properties. And GD's clerk or secretary would be the person to prepare such a list. And could have had GD sign it, at GD's request, or in the confusion of his non-lucidity, if that occurred. Mahesh DID prepare the documents and the rest is certainly possible, though I'm certain nothing will ever be proven one way or the other. In the meantime, it is a moot point. Vasudevananda cannot travel as the Shankaracarya or present himself as such. The war is over and Swarupananda owns the position; that's the fact of the matter and its time, for better or worse, simply to face it and move on - as Hindus themselves have. Dana -- End of Forwarded Message Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] TM articles in major media- England
Wednesday 17th: Two pages in the Independent today, photos too, text at:- http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article306473.ece with big photo Tuesday 16th: several minute feature on BBC2 television 'Newsnight', there might still be a way of accessing information about it at:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4153396.stm Monday 15th: a page 3 article in the Guardian with nice picture - text is at:- http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1549244,00.html __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. I am charmed to be considered no one. Very Zen. :-) Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. It's a larger syndrome than merely blacks and Jews. It's called elitism. Us vs. them. The chosen ones. And sadly, much of religion and spiritual practice is built on its foundation. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. I think he's *on* his meds, the meds in question being reinforcement -- from those he's studied with and those he pays to pray for him -- that he's cool and they are not. I've been fortunate enough to meet and work with a few spiritual teachers who don't fall into the elitism mold. It's refreshing. As one of them said, You can tell more about a spiritual teacher by how he treats his waiter at a restaurant or the guy who pumps his gas than by anything he says. I tend to agree. Santa Fe, New Mexico was a melting pot of various religions and New Age fringe groups. I found that my best feedback on how valuable their beliefs and practices were at cultivating humanity and caring for other people came from my friends, who tended (Santa Fe not exactly being a job Mecca) to work in the service industry, as waiters and waitresses and bartenders. In such a position, you really get a close up look at people and how they treat other people. For example, there was a large Sikh community near Santa Fe. They wore white and acted holy. But ask *any* Santa Fe waitress what they're really like and she'll tell you. They don't tip, they treat those who serve them their food and drink like shit, and they nickle and dime them to death (that is, rather than ten people at the table ordering at the same time, they'll all take their time and force the poor waitress to come back to the table ten times). Same take on many of the New Age groups. I saw a funny scene regarding one of them one day. I was sitting at the bar at El Farol one day and I noticed the waitresses drawing straws for some- thing. I asked what they were doing. They said that they'd gotten a call, and a rather famous New Age teacher had made a reservation for dinner. So I said, Oh, so you're drawing straws to see who gets to wait on her? One of the waitresses said, No, we're drawing straws to see who *has* to wait on her. (A few months later, I saw the same scene acted out for one of the local celeb- rities, an actor who lived there and had an equally bad rep, Val Kilmer.) Interestingly, the groups in town with the best rep among the service industry were the Tibetans. No one ever had an unkind word to say about them. They walked the walk of their beliefs, and they treated anyone they interacted with as fellow walkers. Unc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: markmeredith wrote: I don't know anything about Indian history, but have studied european colonization and know the british were thoroughly racist and generally attempted to stamp out the culture of those they conquered as part of a strategy of keeping them divided and weak. Speaking of racism, have you read the Laws of Manu, Mr. Meredith? Skimmed through it a long time ago -- racist, mysogynistic, and probably a few others ... worse than the old testament, I don't know??? Of course Rick has researched the scientific basis of it all so he probably knows more than me Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
On 9/8/05 1:48 AM, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True. In the Nath tradition, mundanesthose who do not practice meditation or are totally outside the yogic traditionare called ³pashus², more appropriately, beasts. The implication is that these are beings fit to be ³bound². Overall this article disappointed me as it seems to indicate that Amma has not reached the point in her own realization where the origin of Sanskrit is apparenta language of the Gods and Angels. Vaj, just as a point, aren't you saying here that you're disappointed that Amma hasn't reached the point in her own realization where she agrees with you? No not at all. There are yogins who even today continue to cognize texts in Sanskrit and proto-Sanskrit languages. Seems to me that you're pretty convinced that *you* know the origin of Sanskrit. It is, in fact, apparent. This strikes me as odd when so many scholars and seers are willing to admit they don't have a clue. :-) I'm not speaking of an historical origin, but it's basis in consciousness and it's continuing manifestation from the level of consciousness. I'm not talking about Sanskrit as an object in space or time, but as something always available, all of the time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. bostonbob Hey Bob, I understand your perspective. But do we really need another battle here. Don't we have enough of these. I think Tom gets called on his sh*t. But another full court press? I'm kinda glad to have Tom back posting. He makes no effort to hide his biases, and you have to give him credit for that. I'm no great analyst, but you got to admit, Tom makes for an interesting psychological study. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
On 9/8/05 1:56 AM, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either way, it ain't good Cliff. Keep in mind, to a devout Muslim, a pagan is the epitome of someone worth slaughtering (i.e a worshipper involved in figures or images, etc.) I could go on, but this is a controversial topic, to say the least. Suffice to say many of the Sufi saints of India were famous for one thing: having slaughtered Hindus. Not a very saintly thing, is it? If this is new to you, I suggest you look further, but as I indicated, it ain't a pretty picture. Can you imagine living side-by-side with a culture or religion that considers people who slaughtered your kin saints for having killed them? Uh...Vaj? Live near any Catholics? Remember Saint Dominic, founder of the Inquisition? Ha ha. But of course there are obvious differences. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
On 9/7/05 10:16 PM, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You disapoint me, Vaj, with the transparency of your fabrication. I thought you had more integrity than that. It would have been completely acceptable to me if you'd said you had heard these figures, but really had nothing to back them up. It's clear you're just bullshitting now. As I said, disappointing... Hi Cliff: Here is one of the articles I had read. -V. Was There an Islamic Genocide of Hindus? by Dr. Koenraad Elst The Partition Holocaust: the term is frequently used in Hindu pamphlets concerning Islam and the birth of its modern political embodiment in the Subcontinent, the state of Pakistan. Is such language warranted, or is it a ridicule-inviting exaggeration? To give an idea of the context of this question, we must note that the term genocide is used very loosely these days. One of the charges by a Spanish judge against Chilean ex-dictator Pinochet, so as to get him extradited from Great Britain in autumn 1998, was genocide. This was his way of making Pinochet internationally accountable for having killed a few Spanish citizens: alleging a crime serious enough to overrule normal constraints based on diplomatic immunity and national sovereignty. Yet, whatever Pinochet's crimes, it is simply ridiculous to charge that he ever intended to exterminate the Spanish nation. In the current competition for victim status, all kinds of interest groups are blatantly overbidding in order to get their piece of the entitlement to attention and solidarity. The Nazi Holocaust killed the majority of European Jewry (an estimated 5.1 million according to Raul Hilberg, 5.27 million according to the Munich-based Institut für Zeitgeschichte) and about 30% of the Jewish people worldwide. How many victim groups can say as much? The Partition pogroms killed hardly 0.3% of the Hindus, and though it annihilated the Hindu presence in all the provinces of Pakistan except for parts of Sindh and East Bengal, it did so mostly by putting the Hindus to flight (at least seven million) rather than by killing them (probably half a million). Likewise, the ethnic cleansing of a quarter million Hindus from Kashmir in 1990 followed the strategy of killing one to expel a hundred, which is not the same thing as killing them all; in practice, about 1,500 were killed. Partition featured some local massacres of genocidal type, with the Sikhs as the most wanted victims, but in relative as well as absolute figures, this does not match the Holocaust. Among genocides, the Holocaust was a very special case (e.g. the attempt to carry it out in secrecy is unique), and it serves no good purpose to blur that specificity by extending the term to all genocides in general. The term ³Holocaust², though first used in a genocidal sense to describe the Armenian genocide of 1915, is now in effect synonymous with the specifically Jewish experience at the hands of the Nazis in 1941-45. But does even the more general term genocide apply to what Hinduism suffered at the hands of Islam? Complete genocide Genocide means the intentional attempt to destroy an ethnic community, or by extension any community constituted by bonds of kinship, of common religion or ideology, of common socio-economic position, or of common race. The pure form is the complete extermination of every man, woman and child of the group. Examples include the complete extermination of the native Tasmanians and many Amerindian nations from Patagonia to Canada by European settlers in the 16th-19th century. The most notorious attempt was the Nazi final solution of the Jewish question in 1941-45. In April-May 1994, Hutu militias in Rwanda went about slaughtering the Tutsi minority, killing ca. 800,000, in anticipation of the conquest of their country by a Uganda-based Tutsi army. Though improvised and executed with primitive weapons, the Rwandan genocide made more victims per day than the Holocaust. Hindus suffered such attempted extermination in East Bengal in 1971, when the Pakistani Army killed 1 to 3 million people, with Hindus as their most wanted target. This fact is strictly ignored in most writing about Hindu-Muslim relations, in spite (or rather because) of its serious implication that even the lowest estimate of the Hindu death toll in 1971 makes Hindus by far the most numerous victims of Hindu-Muslim violence in the post-colonial period. It is significant that no serious count or religion-wise breakdown of the death toll has been attempted: the Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi ruling classes all agree that this would feed Hindu grievances against Muslims. Nandan Vyas (Hindu Genocide in East Pakistan, Young India, January 1995) has argued convincingly that the number of Hindu victims in the 1971 genocide was approximately 2.4 million, or about 80%. In comparing the population figures for 1961 and 1971, and taking the observed natural growth rhythm into account, Vyas finds that the Hindu population has
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rare honesty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got it the wrong way round. Reynolds takes a risk because his small hands, he implies, may not be up the task of covering the large thing that needs to be covered. Exactly. I see Feste is not the only one here with a my dick is bigger than your dick fetish. Hey, I'm not the guy so threatened by a gag about Burt Reynolds's big dick that he had to castrate it. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
Skimmed through it a long time ago -- racist, mysogynistic, and probably a few others ... worse than the old testament, I don't know??? So, we are agreed, but IF the British burned the Laws of Manu, woouldn't that have been a good thing? Of course Rick has researched the scientific basis of it all so he probably knows more than me Is there a scientific basis for the Laws of Manu? But why would Rick be promoting these kinds of iedeologies on a public forum? And why would Amma want to bash the British for trying to burn the autenticating documents? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
Rick Archer: Maybe I'll forward these comments on to the Amma folks. For what purpose? Don't agree with what Amma said? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
Cliff wrote: IMO, Willytex should have stopped at correcting you and not gone into a typical rant, but that's his choice. He got so excited he began making numerous typos (spurrious instead of spurious, and underserving instead of undeserving), and then closed with a profound 8-year old slam - You suck! Most impressive... :-) Thanks for your support and for the grammer lesson, Cliff. But, I still think Rick sucks as a moderator! Why he'd want to post uininformed and racist propaganda like that is beyond me. Is he attempting to pull some poor TMers into his cult? For what purpose, I wonder? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rare honesty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under your pillow, perhaps? grin No, it's in storage. But one of these days I'm going to dig it out, put it in a fancy frame, and hang it in my living room. It has a joie de vivre that's just irresistible. It was actually a huge deal when it came out. It was the first (mainstream?) pin-up of a naked man for women to enjoy, at least in this country. (I'm sure some men liked it too, but it was in a magazine published for women.) At the time (1972), believe it or not, the idea that women were fully sexual beings was new to many people, and distinctly unwelcome to some. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm concerned, Burt Reynolds never needed to do another thing to justify his existence after the Cosmo spread. I still have it tucked away somewhere. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
On 9/8/05 9:05 AM, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skimmed through it a long time ago -- racist, mysogynistic, and probably a few others ... worse than the old testament, I don't know??? So, we are agreed, but IF the British burned the Laws of Manu, woouldn't that have been a good thing? Of course Rick has researched the scientific basis of it all so he probably knows more than me Is there a scientific basis for the Laws of Manu? But why would Rick be promoting these kinds of iedeologies on a public forum? And why would Amma want to bash the British for trying to burn the autenticating documents? Hi Willy: Interesting questions. From my own perspective I considered it a forgone conclusion that the Laws of Manu represented something repugnant in terms of the social ideals they promulgate. I was therefore surprised, no shocked, when I read Alain Danielou's _While the Gods Play_. Both he and his guru Swami Karpatri (the Shankaracharya-maker, the swami who nominated Sw. Brahmananda Saraswati) were champions of the caste system. Therefore you might find it interesting to read what these guys have to say. More and more of Danielou's books are being translated into English. A recent translation is _India: A Civilization of Differences : The Ancient Tradition of Universal Tolerance_. It's about the caste system and argues in it's favor. If you thought of the caste system as something negative, these works will be a real eye-opener. Highly recommended. -V. PS- Is IQ testing a modern attempt at the caste system? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rare honesty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got it the wrong way round. Reynolds takes a risk because his small hands, he implies, may not be up the task of covering the large thing that needs to be covered. Exactly. I see Feste is not the only one here with a my dick is bigger than your dick fetish. Hey, I'm not the guy so threatened by a gag about Burt Reynolds's big dick that he had to castrate it. I see. Judy gets offended not only when one questions the spiritual teacher she puts up on a pedestal, but also when one questions the...uh...quality of her masturbation material. :-) To be honest, the issue has probably arisen because I tried to paraphrase an interview that I encountered at least a decade ago. The choice of the word risky was mine, and possibly not Burt's. In the context of the original, it was pretty clear he was making a joke about the possibility of having a tiny dick. The interviewer laughed. So did everyone else, including Burt. Judy got offended. Go figure. I wonder if she's got a Burt Reynolds vibrator. And what size it is... :-) Unc P.S. It wasn't Burt who committed suicide by hurling himself off the nightstand, was it? If so, I'm sorry to have intruded on your grief with my careless remarks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. bostonbob Hey Bob, I understand your perspective. But do we really need another battle here. Don't we have enough of these. I think Tom gets called on his sh*t. But another full court press? I'm kinda glad to have Tom back posting. He makes no effort to hide his biases, and you have to give him credit for that. I'm no great analyst, but you got to admit, Tom makes for an interesting psychological study. lurk I see your point but he is so offensive and I think it goes well beyond political correctness. They guy strikes me as seriously unhinged. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
bob wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. That's the guy that tried to pick a fight with me one time - then he threatened to shoot me if we ever went on a hunting trip together. Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. Mr. Pall has bashed TMers, Christians, and Jews, and just about every other minority on the entire planet. Now he's apparently back here in Austin. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Yes, I've noted that several of the regular respondents on this forum don't seem to be able to articulate themselves when confronted by idiots like Tom, but they've got plenty of time to bash the President and FEMA in the middle of a rescue operation. Go figure. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. He's just a bigot, pure and simple. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rare honesty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM sidha Howard Stern often cracks jokes about his having a small penis. I'm afraid circumcision might quite often be to blame... I can try to elaborate if anybody wishes me to. crack! --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bet his unhappy wife got it for him without his knowing about it. No man would ever get the plate for himself. Unless he had that rare ability to laugh at himself and not be terribly concerned with his image. I once saw Burt Reynolds on a talk show, and was a little impressed by how natural and self-effacing he was. The subject of Oscars came up, and the host said he felt Burt's best shot at one (at the time) had been in Deliverance. Burt agreed, but reminded the host that the film came out the same year as his semi- nude foldout photo in Cosmo, with Burt reclining à la Playboy, with just one hand covering his privates. He said that he'd gotten a lot of flack from Academy members over that, and it probably killed any chance he might have had of winning. But then he said, Still, I don't regret it. After all, it was a pretty risky thing for me to do -- I have very small hands. Big laugh. Sometimes you can avoid being perceived as a big dick by pretending to have a small one. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vanity plate seen on a Hummer in Aspen: http://bbs.chrismoore.com/images/splicense.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
Sorry Unc. I always like what you write because there is a genuineness to it. I guess this Pall character gets to me. How can anyone mix supposed spirituality with blatant hate and racism? I suppose it take all sorts, but I don't like having to listen to it. Maybe everyone just ignores it, but that doesn't seem quite right either. Tolerance of hate just seems wrong to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. I am charmed to be considered no one. Very Zen. :-) Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. It's a larger syndrome than merely blacks and Jews. It's called elitism. Us vs. them. The chosen ones. And sadly, much of religion and spiritual practice is built on its foundation. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. I think he's *on* his meds, the meds in question being reinforcement -- from those he's studied with and those he pays to pray for him -- that he's cool and they are not. I've been fortunate enough to meet and work with a few spiritual teachers who don't fall into the elitism mold. It's refreshing. As one of them said, You can tell more about a spiritual teacher by how he treats his waiter at a restaurant or the guy who pumps his gas than by anything he says. I tend to agree. Santa Fe, New Mexico was a melting pot of various religions and New Age fringe groups. I found that my best feedback on how valuable their beliefs and practices were at cultivating humanity and caring for other people came from my friends, who tended (Santa Fe not exactly being a job Mecca) to work in the service industry, as waiters and waitresses and bartenders. In such a position, you really get a close up look at people and how they treat other people. For example, there was a large Sikh community near Santa Fe. They wore white and acted holy. But ask *any* Santa Fe waitress what they're really like and she'll tell you. They don't tip, they treat those who serve them their food and drink like shit, and they nickle and dime them to death (that is, rather than ten people at the table ordering at the same time, they'll all take their time and force the poor waitress to come back to the table ten times). Same take on many of the New Age groups. I saw a funny scene regarding one of them one day. I was sitting at the bar at El Farol one day and I noticed the waitresses drawing straws for some- thing. I asked what they were doing. They said that they'd gotten a call, and a rather famous New Age teacher had made a reservation for dinner. So I said, Oh, so you're drawing straws to see who gets to wait on her? One of the waitresses said, No, we're drawing straws to see who *has* to wait on her. (A few months later, I saw the same scene acted out for one of the local celeb- rities, an actor who lived there and had an equally bad rep, Val Kilmer.) Interestingly, the groups in town with the best rep among the service industry were the Tibetans. No one ever had an unkind word to say about them. They walked the walk of their beliefs, and they treated anyone they interacted with as fellow walkers. Unc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
jstein wrote: Here's a story from the Chicago Tribune: Here's a story from the New York Daily News that says the reason for much of the crime wave was that the New Orleans police failed to do their job. Do you agree? From the New York Daily News: Let's take a break from the joy of Bush bashing to reveal the dirty little secret of New Orleans: Its local government deserves an F for its planning and response to Katrina. And one other thing: The New Orleans police force would be a joke if it weren't a disgrace. 'Don't blame only feds' Crime rate, inept pols leveled New Orleans before the By Michael Goodwin http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/344065p-293598c.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the homos! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Iraq war! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Christian infidels! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the black magic and sex! Or, maybe, just maybe, Katrina destroyed NOLA because it's a coastal city in a hurricane zone, built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water. Why the need for magical thinking? Alex --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny how God works in strange ways: What we give, we get back; Revenge is mine, said God. So, perhaps, the invasion and destruction of Iraq; It's infrastructure; it's poor and defenseless; When we bombed, watching, Look How We Can Shock and Awe. We watched the bombs fall, and light up the sky; Live on CNN. Now we see the reaction; Nature's might; in New Orleans; And surrounding areas. And the folly of man. And how the whole world sees our 'Superpower'; For what it is; Like the Titanic. Arrogant to think we could escape forever, The wrath of God; For our nation's invasion; And the destruction of Iraq. - Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the homos! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Iraq war! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Christian infidels! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the black magic and sex! Or, maybe, just maybe, Katrina destroyed NOLA because it's a coastal city in a hurricane zone, built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water. Why the need for magical thinking? Because it makes people feel magical. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the homos! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Iraq war! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Christian infidels! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the black magic and sex! Or, maybe, just maybe, Katrina destroyed NOLA because it's a coastal city in a hurricane zone, built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water. Why the need for magical thinking? Because it makes people feel magical... ...and is an alternative to thinking. uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the homos! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Iraq war! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Christian infidels! Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the black magic and sex! Or, maybe, just maybe, Katrina destroyed NOLA because it's a coastal city in a hurricane zone, built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water. Why the need for magical thinking? Alex How about: Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu buildings Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing in enough Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds about right... JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
--- bostonbob53 wrote: I guess this Pall character gets to me. How can anyone mix supposed spirituality with blatant hate and racism? Some of the exchanges in this forum have made me question whether there is any connection whatsoever between spiritual practice and civil behavior. But then I think of the civil contributors, and figure maybe there's hope. I suppose it take all sorts, but I don't like having to listen to it. Indeed, you do not have to listen to it. Bob. All contributors are identified. You can know from experience that Patrick Gillam has nothing to contribute, and save the time of reading his remarks. Maybe everyone just ignores it, but that doesn't seem quite right either. Tolerance of hate just seems wrong to me. And bully for you to seek out hate and speak out against it. I'm glad you emerged from the Lurk Zone to speak out. That said, flame wars get old, and the history of this forum is that the person who insults everyone one day contributes something valuable the next. - New Hampshire Pat Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
On 9/8/05 10:17 AM, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about: Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu buildings Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing in enough Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds about right... JohnY Oh come on, we have to at least assign SOME blame on global warming! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
--- bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. bostonbob Well you obviously are a poor, black jew from New Orleans who practices voodo. How many stores did you loot? Did you get enough liquor to hold you over until your government check comes? I'd shoot you on a hunting trip. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
on 9/8/05 7:26 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: markmeredith wrote: I don't know anything about Indian history, but have studied european colonization and know the british were thoroughly racist and generally attempted to stamp out the culture of those they conquered as part of a strategy of keeping them divided and weak. Speaking of racism, have you read the Laws of Manu, Mr. Meredith? Skimmed through it a long time ago -- racist, mysogynistic, and probably a few others ... worse than the old testament, I don't know??? Of course Rick has researched the scientific basis of it all so he probably knows more than me I have? Maharishi had me correlating the Laws of Manu with the scientific charts back in about 1974, and that was a weird project, that's the extent of my knowledge. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
on 9/8/05 8:12 AM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer: Maybe I'll forward these comments on to the Amma folks. For what purpose? Don't agree with what Amma said? Because it appeared to me in light your your comments and Cliff's that she might have been mistaken on this point. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
I, and others, have called him on his obvious racism and general hatred for anyone not like him. But once you do that once or twice and it's clearly having zero effect, why bother again? Engaging him only seems to encourage his zeal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. bostonbob Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/8/05 10:17 AM, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about: Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu buildings Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing in enough Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds about right... JohnY Oh come on, we have to at least assign SOME blame on global warming! :-) Sure ;-). But something that hasn't been widely reported is that there is significant global warming happening on Mars. (dry) Ice caps are melting rapidly and I'm pretty sure it isn't caused by burning fossil fuels or the lack of pundits ;-) JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Conspiracy theories
Dana Sawyer's comments: From: Dana Sawyer: First, the person's point here seems to be that it is implausible that a cook and a clerk First, it hasn't been established that Brahmananda had a cook with him when he died down in Calcutta. From all the accounts I've read, Brahmanada Saraswati died of natural causes. Is there any mention anywhere about a poisoned Shankaracharya? were so powerful that they could usurp the Shankaracaryaship. So, you're thinking that a mere clerk was so powerful that he was able to get a private audience with the Shankaracharya on his deathbed, then commandeer the seer's corpse, put it on a railroad car and send it to Benares, then bury it inside a coffin in the middle of the Ganges river, then produce a will that listed Shantanand as his succussor, and have him installed as the new Shankaracharya, in full view of the entire nation without a single mention in the Indian press of a murder of a Shankaracharya by a cook who gave Brahmananda poison? That would be one very powerful clerk! This is both true and false. Even throwing out the idea that Brahmananda was given poison, Is there any mention in any of the Indian press at the time that a Shankaracharya had been murdered by an ashram cook? it is possible that Mahesh, as secretary, could have skewed the will and then had a less than lucid Brahmananda sign a different document then he thought he was signing. Has it been established that a person named Mahesh was Brahmananda's secretary? From what I've read, Swami Brahmananda was lucid right up to the time of his demise. Beyond that it's important to recognize, for good or bad, that those who felt the document was a forgery formed the much larger and more influential group. Apparently the will was never contested in court and at the time no accusations were made. If Shantanand was a suspect in a murder, why would Svarupanand invite him to the birthday party attened by Robert Kropensky? They immediately took matters into their own hands and backed Krishnabodhashrama as the new Shankaracarya, so for them all that was lost was property, not the position. But did they contest the will? I don't think so - according to Svarupanand, in the Kropinsky interview, Brahmanand's will wasn't an issue, only the fitness of the candidate, Shantanand. See? I don't see any evidence that Shantanand was a suspect in the death of Brahmanand Saraswati. If he was, no charges were ever filed. When the guy below says that, possession is nine tenths of the law he's correct with regards to the government. The Shantananda group had Brahmananda's will with his signature on it and that's all that the government filing office in Allahabad cared about. Brahmanand's group also had possession of the will and the Jyotirmath property and all the accoutrements of the Shankaracharya's office, as they do to this day. That's because Vishndevanand was the succossor to Brahmanand Saraswati, not Krishnabodha. The cook was Shantanand, I beleive, yes So, you're thinking that the new Shankaracharya was a 'cook' and that the Mahesh was a 'secretary' to the Shankaracharaya? It hasn't been established that Brahmanand had a cook with him when he was in Calcutta at the time of his untimely death. Also, it hasn't been established that Shantanand was a cook, at Jyotirmath or anywhere else. From what I've read Brahmanand never ate food cooked by someone else - sannyasins of the Shankaracharya order aren't supposed to be eating food cooked by others or playing with fire. Every testimony that I've heard, on either side of the dispute, holds that Brahmananda was barely able to communicate in his last days - whether there was poison involved or not. According to the official biography of GD, just before he died he requested that his doctors help him sit up in bed, and then the doctors left, telling him to get some rest. Apparently they didn't feel that the situation was very serious. Mahesh DID prepare the documents and the rest is certainly possible, though I'm certain nothing will ever be proven one way or the other. It hasn't even been established that there was a 'Mahesh' involved in the matter, has it? If so, on what basis? In the meantime, it is a moot point. Vasudevananda cannot travel as the Shankaracarya or present himself as such. The war is over and Swarupananda owns the position; But Svaruanand doesn't own the Jyotir math or the property - that still belongs to Brahmanand's camp, right? that's the fact of the matter and its time, for better or worse, simply to face it and move on - as Hindus themselves have. That doesn't make it right for Svarupanad to steal items from the Jyotirmath ashram, Dana! Also I note that one of the other Shankaracharya's has been charged with murder, so the matter of the murdering of Shankaracharys is still on the front pages of all the Indian newspapers. But I've never seen any reference
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
I never contested man's inhumanity to man (and woman), but the very large number you presented still seems high. I agree that the monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are all incredibly bloodthirsty and have killed off millions of humans. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/7/05 10:16 PM, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You disapoint me, Vaj, with the transparency of your fabrication. I thought you had more integrity than that. It would have been completely acceptable to me if you'd said you had heard these figures, but really had nothing to back them up. It's clear you're just bullshitting now. As I said, disappointing... Hi Cliff: Here is one of the articles I had read. -V. Was There an Islamic Genocide of Hindus? by Dr. Koenraad Elst The Partition Holocaust: the term is frequently used in Hindu pamphlets concerning Islam and the birth of its modern political embodiment in the Subcontinent, the state of Pakistan. Is such language warranted, or is it a ridicule-inviting exaggeration? To give an idea of the context of this question, we must note that the term genocide is used very loosely these days. One of the charges by a Spanish judge against Chilean ex-dictator Pinochet, so as to get him extradited from Great Britain in autumn 1998, was genocide. This was his way of making Pinochet internationally accountable for having killed a few Spanish citizens: alleging a crime serious enough to overrule normal constraints based on diplomatic immunity and national sovereignty. Yet, whatever Pinochet's crimes, it is simply ridiculous to charge that he ever intended to exterminate the Spanish nation. In the current competition for victim status, all kinds of interest groups are blatantly overbidding in order to get their piece of the entitlement to attention and solidarity. The Nazi Holocaust killed the majority of European Jewry (an estimated 5.1 million according to Raul Hilberg, 5.27 million according to the Munich-based Institut für Zeitgeschichte) and about 30% of the Jewish people worldwide. How many victim groups can say as much? The Partition pogroms killed hardly 0.3% of the Hindus, and though it annihilated the Hindu presence in all the provinces of Pakistan except for parts of Sindh and East Bengal, it did so mostly by putting the Hindus to flight (at least seven million) rather than by killing them (probably half a million). Likewise, the ethnic cleansing of a quarter million Hindus from Kashmir in 1990 followed the strategy of killing one to expel a hundred, which is not the same thing as killing them all; in practice, about 1,500 were killed. Partition featured some local massacres of genocidal type, with the Sikhs as the most wanted victims, but in relative as well as absolute figures, this does not match the Holocaust. Among genocides, the Holocaust was a very special case (e.g. the attempt to carry it out in secrecy is unique), and it serves no good purpose to blur that specificity by extending the term to all genocides in general. The term ³Holocaust², though first used in a genocidal sense to describe the Armenian genocide of 1915, is now in effect synonymous with the specifically Jewish experience at the hands of the Nazis in 1941-45. But does even the more general term genocide apply to what Hinduism suffered at the hands of Islam? Complete genocide Genocide means the intentional attempt to destroy an ethnic community, or by extension any community constituted by bonds of kinship, of common religion or ideology, of common socio-economic position, or of common race. The pure form is the complete extermination of every man, woman and child of the group. Examples include the complete extermination of the native Tasmanians and many Amerindian nations from Patagonia to Canada by European settlers in the 16th-19th century. The most notorious attempt was the Nazi final solution of the Jewish question in 1941-45. In April-May 1994, Hutu militias in Rwanda went about slaughtering the Tutsi minority, killing ca. 800,000, in anticipation of the conquest of their country by a Uganda-based Tutsi army. Though improvised and executed with primitive weapons, the Rwandan genocide made more victims per day than the Holocaust. Hindus suffered such attempted extermination in East Bengal in 1971, when the Pakistani Army killed 1 to 3 million people, with Hindus as their most wanted target. This fact is strictly ignored in most writing about Hindu-Muslim relations, in spite (or rather because) of its serious implication that even the lowest estimate of the Hindu death toll in 1971 makes Hindus by far the most numerous victims of Hindu-Muslim violence in the post-colonial period. It is significant that no serious count or religion-wise breakdown of the death toll has been attempted: the Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi ruling classes all
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sample you are citing is small and subjective. Just because these unfortunate souls have been bussed in from the remains of New Orleans doesn't mean they are an instant crime wave. You should look a little deeper my friend, for the good in these people. I see the good. I walk through our major public facilities turned into shelters. I see the grandmas, the mothers, the fathers, the children. But I also see the thugs. Perhaps because you are not close to NOLA as I am, you were unaware of the shoot to kill orders the mayor and chief of police of NOLA issued during the massive violence when oil last collapsed and hit NOLA hard. Shoot to kill for car jackings one a minute, muggings, also one a minute, roberies. There are good and then there are what my good friends in Egypt refer to the terrorists killing tourists and police as: Not Egyptians. Bad men.. I still hope for the total destruction of NOLA because of the centries of evil black magic practiced there, it being Sin City and land of the thugs. Yes, I am also aware of the criminals in the displaced NOLA population. However, I am also aware of your recent statement on this board that your politics run in the same vein as the Aryan Nation, a truly despicable group. So I made my comment above with that in mind, to attempt to bring some balance to your view point. And then I read about you hoping for the total destruction of NOLA. Sure, you are solving one problem as you see it, but the amount of suffering such an action would create is unfathomable. It is like starting a war, which may have absolutely the best intentions behind it, but when I think of the suffering it causes just one person, and multiply that times thousands, affecting good and bad alike, it is a very very severe 'solution', that in my opinion, causes many more problems than it attempts to solve. As spiritually aware individuals, as we grow in our awareness of the unity of all humanity, it is a good thing to proceed cautiously when attempting to exorcise our personal demons, or heal ourselves. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/8/05 10:17 AM, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about: Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu buildings Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing enough Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds about right... Oh come on, we have to at least assign SOME blame on global warming! :-) Sure ;-). But something that hasn't been widely reported is that there is significant global warming happening on Mars. (dry) Ice caps are melting rapidly and I'm pretty sure it isn't caused by burning fossil fuels or the lack of pundits ;-) A good pinko liberal Commie bastid could blame even that on the United States. Viking 1 and 2 landed from a southerly direction and the whole environment went to hell in a handbasket. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
On 9/8/05 11:41 AM, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never contested man's inhumanity to man (and woman), but the very large number you presented still seems high. Well read the article, I think it becomes clearer why. This occurred over several centuries. One thing that blew me away was that the event the Concert for Bangladesh was responding to was really about Hindu genocide--over 2 million--and that was in recent times. It certainly was never mentioned in that way that I recall. I agree that the monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are all incredibly bloodthirsty and have killed off millions of humans. Well, no doubt. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] How environmentalists sandbagged a plan that could have prevented Katrina
New Orleans: A Green Genocide By Michael Tremoglie FrontPageMagazine.com | September 8, 2005 As radical environmentalists continue to blame the ferocity of Hurricane Katrina's devastation on President Bush's ecological policies, a mainstream Louisiana media outlet inadvertently disclosed a shocking fact: Environmentalist activists were responsible for spiking a plan that may have saved New Orleans. Decades ago, the Green Left pursuing its agenda of valuing wetlands and topographical diversity over human life sued to prevent the Army Corps of Engineers from building floodgates that would have prevented significant flooding that resulted from Hurricane Katrina. In the 1970s, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' Lake Pontchartrain and Vicinity Hurricane Barrier Project planned to build fortifications at two strategic locations, which would keep massive storms on the Gulf of Mexico from causing Lake Pontchartrain to flood the city. An article in the May 28, 2005, New Orleans Times- Picayune stated, Under the original plan, floodgate-type structures would have been built at the Rigolets and Chef Menteur passes to block storm surges from moving from the Gulf into Lake Pontchartrain. The floodgates would have blocked the flow of water from the Gulf of Mexico, through Lake Borgne, through the Rigolets [and Chef Mentuer] into Lake Pontchartrain, declared Professor Gregory Stone, the James P. Morgan Distinguished Professor and Director of the Coastal Studies Institute of Louisiana State University. This would likely have reduced storm surge coming from the Gulf and into the Lake Pontchartrain, Professor Stone told Michael P. Tremoglie during an interview on September 6. The professor concluded, [T] hese floodgates would have alleviated the flooding of New Orleans caused by Hurricane Katrina. The New Orleans Army Corps of Engineers and Professor Stone were not the only people cognizant of the consequences that could and did result because of the environmental activists. While speaking with Sean Hannity on his radio show on Labor Day, former Louisiana Congressman and Speaker of the House Bob Livingston also referred to environmentalists whose litigation prevented hurricane prevention projects. In other words, unlike other programs including the ones leftists like Sid Blumenthal excoriated the president for not funding these constructions might have prevented the loss of life experienced in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Why was this project aborted? As the Times-Picayune wrote, Those plans were abandoned after environmental advocates successfully sued to stop the projects as too damaging to the wetlands and the lake's eco-system. (Emphasis added.) Specifically, in 1977, a state environmentalist group known as Save Our Wetlands (SOWL) sued to have it stopped. SOWL stated the proposed Rigolets and Chef Menteur floodgates of the Lake Pontchartrain Hurricane Prevention Project would have a negative effect on the area surrounding Lake Pontchartrain. Further, SOWL's recollection of this case demonstrates they considered this move the first step in a perfidious design to drain Lake Pontchartrain entirely and open the area to dreaded capitalist investment. On December 30, 1977, U.S. District Judge Charles Schwartz Jr. issued an injunction against the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Lake Pontchartrain hurricane protection project, demanding the engineers draw up a second environmental impact statement, three years after the corps submitted the first one. In one of the most ironic pronouncements of all time, Judge Schwartz wrote, it is the opinion of the Court that plaintiffs herein have demonstrated that they, and in fact all persons in this area, will be irreparably harmed if the barrier project based upon the August, 1974 FEIS [federal environmental impact statement] is allowed to continue. If the Greens prevailed, it was not because the forces of common sense did not make a compelling case. SOWL's account reveals that during the course of the trial the defense counsel, Gerald Gallinghouse a Republican U.S. Attorney who acted as a special prosecutor during the Carter administration felt so strongly that the project should continue that he told the judge he would go before the United States Congress with [Democratic Louisiana Congressman] F. Edward Hebert to pass a resolution, exempting the Hurricane Barrier Project from the rules and regulations of the National Environmental Policy Act because, in his opinion, [this plan] is necessary to protect the citizens of New Orleans from a hurricane. Despite this, the judge ruled in favor of the environmentalists. Ultimately, the project was aborted in favor of building up existing levees. However, the old plan lived on in the minds of those who put human beings first. The Army Corps of Engineers as recently as last year had publicly discussed resuming the practice. The
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never contested man's inhumanity to man (and woman), but the very large number you presented still seems high. I agree that the monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are all incredibly bloodthirsty and have killed off millions of humans. You can add up all the millions allegedly killed off in the name of religion over the ages. That number would be a speck, however, compared to the number killed off in the name of atheism, the state religion of communism: 150 million killed just in the space of about 40 years in the 20th century. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/7/05 10:16 PM, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You disapoint me, Vaj, with the transparency of your fabrication. I thought you had more integrity than that. It would have been completely acceptable to me if you'd said you had heard these figures, but really had nothing to back them up. It's clear you're just bullshitting now. As I said, disappointing... Hi Cliff: Here is one of the articles I had read. -V. Was There an Islamic Genocide of Hindus? by Dr. Koenraad Elst The Partition Holocaust: the term is frequently used in Hindu pamphlets concerning Islam and the birth of its modern political embodiment in the Subcontinent, the state of Pakistan. Is such language warranted, or is it a ridicule-inviting exaggeration? To give an idea of the context of this question, we must note that the term genocide is used very loosely these days. One of the charges by a Spanish judge against Chilean ex-dictator Pinochet, so as to get him extradited from Great Britain in autumn 1998, was genocide. This was his way of making Pinochet internationally accountable for having killed a few Spanish citizens: alleging a crime serious enough to overrule normal constraints based on diplomatic immunity and national sovereignty. Yet, whatever Pinochet's crimes, it is simply ridiculous to charge that he ever intended to exterminate the Spanish nation. In the current competition for victim status, all kinds of interest groups are blatantly overbidding in order to get their piece of the entitlement to attention and solidarity. The Nazi Holocaust killed the majority of European Jewry (an estimated 5.1 million according to Raul Hilberg, 5.27 million according to the Munich-based Institut für Zeitgeschichte) and about 30% of the Jewish people worldwide. How many victim groups can say as much? The Partition pogroms killed hardly 0.3% of the Hindus, and though it annihilated the Hindu presence in all the provinces of Pakistan except for parts of Sindh and East Bengal, it did so mostly by putting the Hindus to flight (at least seven million) rather than by killing them (probably half a million). Likewise, the ethnic cleansing of a quarter million Hindus from Kashmir in 1990 followed the strategy of killing one to expel a hundred, which is not the same thing as killing them all; in practice, about 1,500 were killed. Partition featured some local massacres of genocidal type, with the Sikhs as the most wanted victims, but in relative as well as absolute figures, this does not match the Holocaust. Among genocides, the Holocaust was a very special case (e.g. the attempt to carry it out in secrecy is unique), and it serves no good purpose to blur that specificity by extending the term to all genocides in general. The term ³Holocaust², though first used in a genocidal sense to describe the Armenian genocide of 1915, is now in effect synonymous with the specifically Jewish experience at the hands of the Nazis in 1941-45. But does even the more general term genocide apply to what Hinduism suffered at the hands of Islam? Complete genocide Genocide means the intentional attempt to destroy an ethnic community, or by extension any community constituted by bonds of kinship, of common religion or ideology, of common socio-economic position, or of common race. The pure form is the complete extermination of every man, woman and child of the group. Examples include the complete extermination of the native Tasmanians and many Amerindian nations from Patagonia to Canada by European settlers in the 16th-19th century. The most notorious attempt was the Nazi final solution of the Jewish question in 1941-45. In April-May 1994, Hutu militias in Rwanda went about slaughtering the Tutsi minority, killing ca. 800,000, in anticipation of the conquest of their country by a Uganda-based Tutsi army. Though improvised and executed with primitive weapons, the Rwandan genocide made more victims per day than the Holocaust. Hindus suffered such attempted extermination in East Bengal in 1971, when the Pakistani Army killed 1 to
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/8/05 10:17 AM, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about: Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu buildings Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing enough Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds about right... Oh come on, we have to at least assign SOME blame on global warming! :-) Sure ;-). But something that hasn't been widely reported is that there is significant global warming happening on Mars. (dry) Ice caps are melting rapidly and I'm pretty sure it isn't caused by burning fossil fuels or the lack of pundits ;-) A good pinko liberal Commie bastid could blame even that on the United States. Viking 1 and 2 landed from a southerly direction and the whole environment went to hell in a handbasket. Unfathomable is the course of (ah, don't give 'em ideas) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jstein wrote: Here's a story from the Chicago Tribune: Here's a story from the New York Daily News that says the reason for much of the crime wave was that the New Orleans police failed to do their job. Do you agree? From the New York Daily News: Let's take a break from the joy of Bush bashing to reveal the dirty little secret of New Orleans: Its local government deserves an F for its planning and response to Katrina. Just a note on 'the joy of Bush bashing'-- There would be no need to bash if he had seemed the least bit concerned when this disaster erupted, instead of cozying up to his well-heeled buddies in San Diego. Also, there is no joy whatsoever in pointing out his foibles and calculated missteps. I don't recognize this country from what it was just a short time ago, and all I ever hear from the oval office is excuses. Which would be fine, except that the country is broke, the economy is shaky, we are at war, the rest of the world dislikes us, and all we hear from Bush is either, 'stay the course, everything is fine', or 'I haven't done anything wrong'. And I am not politically naive, I am just tired of the stonewalling, the excuses, and the appalling job Bush is doing as President. No joy in it, whatsoever. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Article
The Independent 8 September 2005 10:48 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article311066.ece UN hits back at US in report saying parts of America are as poor as Third World By Paul Vallely Published: 08 September 2005 Parts of the United States are as poor as the Third World, according to a shocking United Nations report on global inequality. Claims that the New Orleans floods have laid bare a growing racial and economic divide in the US have, until now, been rejected by the American political establishment as emotional rhetoric. But yesterday's UN report provides statistical proof that for many - well beyond those affected by the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - the great American Dream is an ongoing nightmare. The document constitutes a stinging attack on US policies at home and abroad in a fightback against moves by Washington to undermine next week's UN 60th anniversary conference which will be the biggest gathering of world leaders in history. The annual Human Development Report normally concerns itself with the Third World, but the 2005 edition scrutinises inequalities in health provision inside the US as part of a survey of how inequality worldwide is retarding the eradication of poverty. It reveals that the infant mortality rate has been rising in the US for the past five years - and is now the same as Malaysia. America's black children are twice as likely as whites to die before their first birthday. The report is bound to incense the Bush administration as it provides ammunition for critics who have claimed that the fiasco following Hurricane Katrina shows that Washington does not care about poor black Americans. But the 370-page document is critical of American policies towards poverty abroad as well as at home. And, in unusually outspoken language, it accuses the US of having an overdeveloped military strategy and an under-developed strategy for human security. There is an urgent need to develop a collective security framework that goes beyond military responses to terrorism, it continues. Poverty and social breakdown are core components of the global security threat. The document, which was written by Kevin Watkins, the former head of research at Oxfam, will be seen as round two in the battle between the UN and the US, which regards the world body as an unnecessary constraint on its strategic interests and actions. Last month John Bolton, the new US ambassador to the UN, submitted 750 amendments to the draft declaration for next week's summit to strengthen the UN and review progress towards its Millennium Development Goals to halve world poverty by 2015. The report launched yesterday is a clear challenge to Washington. The Bush administration wants to replace multilateral solutions to international problems with a world order in which the US does as it likes on a bilateral basis. This is the UN coming out all guns firing, said one UN insider. It means that, even if we have a lame duck secretary general after the Volcker report (on the oil-for-food scandal), the rest of the organisation is not going to accept the US bilateralist agenda. The clash on world poverty centres on the US policy of promoting growth and trade liberalisation on the assumption that this will trickle down to the poor. But this will not stop children dying, the UN says. Growth alone will not reduce poverty so long as the poor are denied full access to health, education and other social provision. Among the world's poor, infant mortality is falling at less than half of the world average. To tackle that means tackling inequality - a message towards which John Bolton and his fellow US neocons are deeply hostile. India and China, the UN says, have been very successful in wealth creation but have not enabled the poor to share in the process. A rapid decline in child mortality has therefore not materialised. Indeed, when it comes to reducing infant deaths, India has now been overtaken by Bangladesh, which is only growing a third as fast. Poverty could be halved in just 17 years in Kenya if the poorest people were enabled to double the amount of economic growth they can achieve at present. Inequality within countries is as stark as the gaps between countries, the UN says. Poverty is not the only issue here. The death rate for girls in India is now 50 per cent higher than for boys. Gender bias means girls are not given the same food as boys and are not taken to clinics as often when they are ill. Foetal scanning has also reduced the number of girls born. The only way to eradicate poverty, it says, is to target inequalities. Unless that is done the Millennium Development Goals will never be met. And 41 million children will die unnecessarily over the next 10 years. Decline in health care Child mortality is on the rise in the United States For half a century the US has seen a sustained decline in the number of children who die before
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
Turguoise B writes: I am saying, Yes, that the *need* for psychological defense mechanisms seems to be different from country to country. One only resorts to attacks when one's personal beliefs are challenged if one is so attached to those beliefs that one cannot distinguish them from oneself. This is a characteristic I find *far* more prevalent in the black-and-white thinking, ignorant- and-proud-of-it US than I have found in other countries. Tom T: Black and white thinking is the sure sign of addictive thinking. Why not, we have a country that is totally addicted to consuming huge quantities of oil and is very into the power addiction trip. Just look at our leader the unreformed and unchanged addict George W. He, an avowed addict, has swapped his substance use from booze and recreational drugs for religion and power. Oh, the day he has to give up the power trip he may find sobriety yet. For further edification on this matter read When Society becomes an addict by Ann Wilson Schief. You might understand yourself and the society you live in better. Tom T Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skimmed through it a long time ago -- racist, mysogynistic, and probably a few others ... worse than the old testament, I don't know??? So, we are agreed, but IF the British burned the Laws of Manu, woouldn't that have been a good thing? No, exposing the racist aspects of it would have been a good thing. Of course Rick has researched the scientific basis of it all so he probably knows more than me Is there a scientific basis for the Laws of Manu? But why would Rick be promoting these kinds of iedeologies on a public forum? And why would Amma want to bash the British for trying to burn the autenticating documents? It was a joke -- as Rick explained, MMY had him correlating scientific research on TM with the Laws of Manu. Note -- I've heard Amma state that some of what is now considered in the Vedas was actually added later on by powerful men seeking to protect their status ... don't know what portions that would be. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the President is to blame for a national disater. From comedian Will Durst The American people want drive through nickel beer night. The American people want to lose weight by eating sour cream and onion potato chips. The American people would chew off their own foot if Jerry Springer told them there was liquid gold in their ankle veins. The American people think Bruce Willis can actually dodge bullets. The American people love the Home Shopping Network because its commercial free. The American people believe Professional Wrestling is legitimate. Also a recent survey found that about 25% of americans think the sun revolves around the earth and Joan of Arc was Noah's wife. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Stanley wrote: Why the need for magical thinking? Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the President is to blame for a national disater. CNN Poll: Based on this CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, most Americans would join with Glenn's preference for tangible lessons over assignment of guilt. Respondents were asked to evaluate the performance of various levels of government in responding to the hurricane. Roughly half of those responding to the survey rated both the federal agencies' performance and the state and local agencies' performance as good or great, compared to bad or terrible, with the state and local levels scoring a little higher. When asked who is to blame for the problems in the city following the hurricane, 13% said President Bush; 18% said federal agencies; 25% blamed state or local officials; and 38% said no one. Rather surprisingly in view of the constant bad publicity, 63% said that no one should be fired as a result of the response to the hurricane. Moreover, 62% say that the progress now being made is satisfactory. 'Poll: Most Americans believe New Orleans will never ecover' http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/07/katrina.poll/ From the same CNN.com article, same poll: Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. Federal government agencies' response was described as bad or terrible by 42 percent, and good or great by 35 percent. A new CBS poll has come out in which 38% of respondents approve of Bush's handling of the response to Katrina, while 58% disapprove; 20% think the federal government's response was adequate, and a whopping 77% think it was not. 16% think the federal government responded as quickly as it could, 80% do not. http://tinyurl.com/cswty Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the President is to blame for a national disater. From comedian Will Durst Apparently you don't think much of polls or the American people. Most Americans I've talked to don't blame the President for the disater and they reject the idea that the rescue was based on race factors. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
jstein wrote: Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the President is to blame for a national disaster and they don't buy the democrats contention that the rescue was race-based either. From the National Review: West's assertion of racism was groundless on other counts as well. It takes considerable ignorance of American politics or willful deception to have missed the fact that the Bush administration has worked very hard to appear compassionate on race issues. It seems odd that the White House would punt on racial quotas in order to placate moderate whites and blacks, then willfully incur enormous political damage by letting people die on the streets of New Orleans. The danger here is real. Tens of thousands of black New Orleaneans persevered with dignity and sacrifice in the face of Katrina. But a sizable minority of blacks including police behaved reprehensibly in the aftermath, shooting at rescue workers, raping, killing and, yes, looting (though no cannibalism). If black activists are going to denounce the white response to Katrina with such sweeping invective, they are going to invite an equally unfair and sweeping discussion of the black response. That's not the debate to have right now. But it is the one we're likely to have. West has already been invited to two more telethons. Read more: 'We're Going West ' By Jonah Goldberg The National Review, September 7, 2005 http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200509070839.asp Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
jim_flanegin wrote: And I am not politically naive, I am just tired of the stonewalling, the excuses, and the appalling job Bush is doing as President. All right Jim, let's compare President Bush's response with the response of the New Orleans police: First, you need to make critical infrastructure survivable. One of the key failures was the collapse of the New Orleans Police Department's radio system. Apparently the police department's citywide 800 MHz radio system functioned well during and immediately after the hurricane hit New Orleans, but since then natural gas service to the prime downtown transmitter site was disrupted and the generator was out. Transmitter sites for the police radio system are also underwater with the rising water and are now disabled. Owners of the sites that housed police radio transmitters would not allow installation of liquefied petroleum gas tanks as a backup to piped gas, meaning generators did not have any fuel when the main lines were cut, Tusa said. Radio repair technicians attempting to enter the city were turned away by the state police, even though they had letters from the city police authorizing their access. This is absurd, and I'm pretty sure it's the major factor leading to the disintegration of the New Orleans Police Department. That sort of gear should be survivable -- and there should also be a backup plan for how to get messages back and forth if the radios go out anyway: Messengers, broadcasts on commercial radio, etc. and, there should be a separate post-disaster communications plan for survivors, too -- so that they can locate relatives and let people know they're alive. Other crucial infrastructure should be hardened as much as possible, too. There's only so much you should do, but disaster survivability should be considered at every stage of design, procurement, and construction. No joy in it, whatsoever. So do you agree that the New Orleans police failed to protect the survivors? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
That's interesting. I live in a fairly rural area and even here we have a series of battery powered Ham radios set up for total loss of electricity allowing communication between hospitals, police, fire stations and gov't authorities. We test it at least once a year. On 9/8/05 1:17 PM, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: And I am not politically naive, I am just tired of the stonewalling, the excuses, and the appalling job Bush is doing as President. All right Jim, let's compare President Bush's response with the response of the New Orleans police: First, you need to make critical infrastructure survivable. One of the key failures was the collapse of the New Orleans Police Department's radio system. Apparently the police department's citywide 800 MHz radio system functioned well during and immediately after the hurricane hit New Orleans, but since then natural gas service to the prime downtown transmitter site was disrupted and the generator was out. Transmitter sites for the police radio system are also underwater with the rising water and are now disabled. Owners of the sites that housed police radio transmitters would not allow installation of liquefied petroleum gas tanks as a backup to piped gas, meaning generators did not have any fuel when the main lines were cut, Tusa said. Radio repair technicians attempting to enter the city were turned away by the state police, even though they had letters from the city police authorizing their access. This is absurd, and I'm pretty sure it's the major factor leading to the disintegration of the New Orleans Police Department. That sort of gear should be survivable -- and there should also be a backup plan for how to get messages back and forth if the radios go out anyway: Messengers, broadcasts on commercial radio, etc. and, there should be a separate post-disaster communications plan for survivors, too -- so that they can locate relatives and let people know they're alive. Other crucial infrastructure should be hardened as much as possible, too. There's only so much you should do, but disaster survivability should be considered at every stage of design, procurement, and construction. No joy in it, whatsoever. So do you agree that the New Orleans police failed to protect the survivors? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] India Times: The Present Is a Moment In Eternity
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: And I am not politically naive, I am just tired of the stonewalling, the excuses, and the appalling job Bush is doing as President. All right Jim, let's compare President Bush's response with the response of the New Orleans police: snip So do you agree that the New Orleans police failed to protect the survivors? Different issue. My point was not to somehow contrast President Bush's record with that of every other local and state government entity, including the New Orleans police. Surely mistakes have been made at all levels of government in dealing with this crisis. The analogy I think of when evaluating the performance of the Bush administration is that of a school administration. Within the school you may find some good teachers and some bad teachers. However if the performance of the school overall is deteriorating, one looks to the Principal for accountability. The Principal can make all the excuses he or she wants to, but the responsibility for the successful running of the school ultimately rests with them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
i see your point. Maybe it doesn't matter, but the guy strikes me as being a bully and you got to call him on this crap. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, and others, have called him on his obvious racism and general hatred for anyone not like him. But once you do that once or twice and it's clearly having zero effect, why bother again? Engaging him only seems to encourage his zeal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. bostonbob Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jstein wrote: Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the President is to blame for a national disaster Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
jim_flanegin wrote: The Principal can make all the excuses he or she wants to, but the responsibility for the successful running of the school ultimately rests with them. So, why do you think the principal, in this case the mayor of New Orleans, didn't evacuate the city before the storm? The mayor is responsible for the first line of defense, not the federal government. From what I can tell, the men of New Orleans, led by the mayor, abandoned all the single mothers and their children and leftr them on their own, with no police protection, in the Superdome. What's up with that? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
jstein wrote: Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President or race factors in the rescue. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
Vaj wrote: That's interesting. From what I've read, Vaj, radio repair technicians attempting to enter the city were turned away by the state police, even though they had letters from the city police authorizing their access so they could repair the phone system. So, why do you think the New Orleans police didn't follow the preparedness plan? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jstein wrote: Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President or race factors in the rescue. Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
Rick Archer wrote: Because it appeared to me in light your your comments and Cliff's that she might have been mistaken on this point. Great, but I wonder what else she's mistaken about. Maybe it's a good idea to read her statements BEFORE you broadcast them, Rick. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
On 9/8/05 2:20 PM, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: That's interesting. From what I've read, Vaj, radio repair technicians attempting to enter the city were turned away by the state police, even though they had letters from the city police authorizing their access so they could repair the phone system. So, why do you think the New Orleans police didn't follow the preparedness plan? I don't know. I can think of a lot of reasons. My point was low-tech back-up plans are easy to implement and often--as in the case of our Ham radio back-up--volunteers will often do the set-up for you. No large expense was necessary. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
Richard J. Williams wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Interestingly, the groups in town with the best rep among the service industry were the Tibetans. Get a grip, Uncle - there weren't any Tibetans in Sante Fe in the 70's, except for Chogyam Trungpa, who visited that town once for a weekend meditation seminar. Most of the Tibetan refugees settled in Washington and Texas, not in New Mexico. Apparently there's not a single Tibetan in all of Sante Fe these days. Most of Trungpa's students are Americans. No one ever had an unkind word to say about them. They walked the walk of their beliefs, The students of Trungpa in Sante Fe in the 70's were some of the most rowdy sadhaks I've ever met. They were the talk of the town, if not the entire U.S. Buddhist community. Most of Trungpa's students that I knew preferred Jim Beam, just like their guru did! and they treated anyone they interacted with as fellow walkers. I'm not Tibetan, but in those days, I tried to be nice to everyone! So what made you decide not to be nice anymore? :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
markmeredith wrote: I've heard Amma state that some of what is now considered in the Vedas was actually added later on by powerful men seeking to protect their status ... So these men probably wrote the Laws of Manu - if so, maybe Amma should burn the authenticating documents herself instead of blaming the British. don't know what portions that would be. Is Amma a Sanskrit reader? Apparently there are upanishads that were composed as recently as the seventeenth century. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
Richard J. Williams wrote: bob wrote: I've lurked here off and on for the past few years and I can't believe that no one calls out this Tom Pall character for the sh*t he says. That's the guy that tried to pick a fight with me one time - then he threatened to shoot me if we ever went on a hunting trip together. Have we all forgotten his long diatribe a year or so back on how much he hates Jews? And now, its the poor (or does he really mean blacks) in New Orleans and Austin. Mr. Pall has bashed TMers, Christians, and Jews, and just about every other minority on the entire planet. Now he's apparently back here in Austin. Come on people, where is your sense of moral outrage? The guy is clearly racist and no one cares. It bugs me that this guy attacks attacks attacks and no one challenges him. Yes, I've noted that several of the regular respondents on this forum don't seem to be able to articulate themselves when confronted by idiots like Tom, but they've got plenty of time to bash the President and FEMA in the middle of a rescue operation. Go figure. Seriously, I think the guy is off his meds. He's just a bigot, pure and simple. For some reason I'm getting visions of pots and kettles. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Bush's Monica Lewinsky
Hurricane Katrina is George Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is that tens of thousands of people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. --Jon Stewart Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Monica Lewinsky
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hurricane Katrina is George Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is that tens of thousands of people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. --Jon Stewart what a disgraceful thing to say or even to bring up. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: The Principal can make all the excuses he or she wants to, but the responsibility for the successful running of the school ultimately rests with them. So, why do you think the principal, in this case the mayor of New Orleans, didn't evacuate the city before the storm? The mayor is responsible for the first line of defense, not the federal government. Actually, as soon as the president decleared a state of emergency--on Friday, August 26--it automatically became the federal government's responsibility, not just the relief efforts but preparedness, including the initial evacuation. That's according to both the federal National Response Plan and the state/city response plans. Everyone--from the mayor on up--knew there were going to be at least 100,000 people who would be left behind. If the feds have declared a disaster, it's up to the feds to deal with whatever local government can't handle. From what I can tell, the men of New Orleans, led by the mayor, abandoned all the single mothers and their children and leftr them on their own, with no police protection, in the Superdome. What's up with that? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Monica Lewinsky
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hurricane Katrina is George Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is that tens of thousands of people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. --Jon Stewart what a disgraceful thing to say or even to bring up. Sorry, I should have provided some more context. It wasn't just a throwaway line but the tail end of a furious rant at Bush: Now, for you people who are saying, `Well, stop pointing fingers at the president...left-wing...the media's being too hard: No. SHUT...UP! No! This is inarguably---inarguably---a failure of leadership from the top of the federal government. Remember when Bill Clinton went out with Monica Lewinsky? That was inarguably a failure of judgment at the top. Democrats had to come out and risk losing credibility if they did not condemn Bill Clinton for his behavior. I believe Republicans are in the same position right now. And I will say this: Hurricane Katrina is George Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is that tens of thousands of people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. The point being, of course, that Clinton got in terrible trouble for a faulure that was microscopic in its significance compared to Bush's failure in the Katrina disaster. Dems had to own up to Clinton's sins, but the Republicans are *outraged* at the idea that they should have to own up to Bush's. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rare honesty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under your pillow, perhaps? touche' Feste. Great comic moment. lurk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm concerned, Burt Reynolds never needed to do another thing to justify his existence after the Cosmo spread. I still have it tucked away somewhere. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Monica Lewinsky
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hurricane Katrina is George Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is that tens of thousands of people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. --Jon Stewart what a disgraceful thing to say or even to bring up. *** Not all anonymous posters agree. On the other hand, the analogy is flawed. The Republican congress will not be initiating a $70 million dollar in depth investigative smear campaign against Bush as they did for Clinton. Katrina will not write a book and be interviewed by Barbara Walters. Other than that, well gosh, maybe they're the same after all! or not. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
on 9/8/05 1:30 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know what portions that would be. Is Amma a Sanskrit reader? Apparently there are upanishads that were composed as recently as the seventeenth century. Amma is brilliant, but she has a 4th grade education. I doubt she knows much Sanskrit. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Street Scene: Macabre Reminder: The Corpse on Union Street
Street Scene Macabre Reminder: The Corpse on Union Street By DAN BARRY Published: September 8, 2005 NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 7 - In the downtown business district here, on a dry stretch of Union Street, past the Omni Bank automated teller machine, across from a parking garage offering "early bird" rates: a corpse. Its feet jut from a damp blue tarp. Its knees rise in rigor mortis. A man who refuses to leave wading in the flooded streets in New Orleans. The sight of corpses has become almost common on the mostly abandoned streets of New Orleans, as rescue and evacuation operations have taken priority over removing the dead. Six National Guardsmen walked up to it on Tuesday afternoon and two blessed themselves with the sign of the cross. One soldier took a parting snapshot like some visiting conventioneer, and they walked away. New Orleans, September 2005. Hours passed, the dusk of curfew crept, the body remained. A Louisiana state trooper around the corner knew all about it: murder victim, bludgeoned, one of several in that area. The police marked it with traffic cones maybe four days ago, he said, and then he joked that if you wanted to kill someone here, this was a good time. Night came, then this morning, then noon, and another sun beat down on a dead son of the Crescent City. That a corpse lies on Union Street may not shock; in the wake of last week's hurricane, there are surely hundreds, probably thousands. What is remarkable is that on a downtown street in a major American city, a corpse can decompose for days, like carrion, and that is acceptable. Welcome to New Orleans in the post-apocalypse, half baked and half deluged: pestilent, eerie, unnaturally quiet. Scraggly residents emerge from waterlogged wood to say strange things, and then return into the rot. Cars drive the wrong way on the Interstate and no one cares. Fires burn, dogs scavenge, and old signs from les bons temps have been replaced with hand-scrawled threats that looters will be shot dead. The incomprehensible has become so routine here that it tends to lull you into acceptance. On Sunday, for example, several soldiers on Jefferson Highway had guns aimed at the heads of several prostrate men suspected of breaking into an electronics store. A car pulled right up to this tense scene and the driver leaned out his window to ask a soldier a question: "Hey, how do you get to the interstate?" Maybe the slow acquiescence to the ghastly here - not in Baghdad, not in Rwanda, here - is rooted in the intensive news coverage of the hurricane's aftermath: floating bodies and obliterated towns equal old news. Maybe the concerns of the living far outweigh the dignity of a corpse on Union Street. Or maybe the nation is numb with post-traumatic shock. Wandering New Orleans this week, away from news conferences and search-and-rescue squads, has granted haunting glimpses of the past, present and future, with the rare comfort found in, say, the white sheet that flaps, not in surrender but as a vow, at the corner of Poydras Street and St. Charles Avenue. "We Shall Survive," it says, as though wishing past the battalions of bulldozers that will one day come to knock down water-corrupted neighborhoods and rearrange the Louisiana mud for the infrastructure of an altogether different New Orleans. Here, then, the New Orleans of today, where open fire hydrants gush the last thing needed on these streets; where one of the many gag-inducing smells - that of rancid meat - is better than MapQuest in pinpointing the presence of a market; and where images of irony beg to be noticed. The Mardi Gras beads imbedded in mud by a soldier's boot print. The "take-away" signs outside restaurants taken away. The corner kiosk shouting the Aug. 28 headline of New Orleans's Times-Picayune: "Katrina Takes Aim." Rush hour in downtown now means pickups carrying gun-carrying men in sunglasses, S.U.V.'s loaded with out-of-town reporters hungry for action, and the occasional tank. About the only ones commuting by bus are dull-eyed suspects shuffling two-by-two from the bus-and-train terminal, which is now a makeshift jail. Maybe some of them had helped to kick in the portal to the Williams Super Market in the once-desirable Garden District. And who could blame them if all they wanted was food in those first desperate days? The interlopers took the water, beer, cigarettes and snack food. They did not take the wine or the New Orleans postcards. On the other side of downtown across Canal Street in the French Quarter, the most raucous and most unreal of American avenues is now little more than an empty alley with balconies. The absence of sweetly blown jazz, of someone cooing "ma chère," of men sporting convention nametags and emitting forced guffaws - the absence of us - assaults the senses more than any smell. Past the famous Cafe du Monde, where a slight breeze twirls the overhead fans for no one, past the statue of Joan of Arc gleaming gold, a man emerges from
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the President is to blame for a national disater. From comedian Will Durst The American people want drive through nickel beer night. The American people want to lose weight by eating sour cream and onion potato chips. The American people would chew off their own foot if Jerry Springer told them there was liquid gold in their ankle veins. The American people think Bruce Willis can actually dodge bullets. The American people love the Home Shopping Network because its commercial free. The American people believe Professional Wrestling is legitimate. Also a recent survey found that about 25% of americans think the sun revolves around the earth and Joan of Arc was Noah's wife. Brilliant. Thanks for posting it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Stones: Still Can't Git No Satisfaction
Rolling Stones Fight for Radio Play, Hire Expert Its not easy being the worlds greatest rock and roll band. The Rolling Stones, currently on tour and selling tickets for $450 a pop, are having so much trouble getting their new single played on the radio that theyve even hired a specialist to help them. Rough Justice, a song with just enough salacious bite in the lyrics to get someones attention, would have benefited from being banned. Unfortunately, its double entendres havent sparked enough interest one way or another. The result is an uphill battle to get played on stations that are crowded with younger acts many of whom owe their existence to the Stones. As of last week, Rough Justice did not register on the mainstream airplay charts on the Billboard Radio Monitor at all. Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Monica Lewinsky
Like all decent members of this family-oriented group, I am SHOCKED and APPALLED by this comment. However, it did start me thinking about whether, if I were to be faced with a choice, I would sooner spend the night in the Superdome or in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. It's a difficult choice since they are both, according to the accounts I read, hot, sticky and wet. But after giving the matter careful thought, I've decided that I would opt for the Superdome, since I would be safe in the knowledge that eventually the National Guard would come along and pull me out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hurricane Katrina is George Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is that tens of thousands of people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. --Jon Stewart what a disgraceful thing to say or even to bring up. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
markmeredith wrote: The Superdome had 200 national guard plus some police (don't know exactly how many) to maintain order and distribute supplies. Many first hand reports of the superdome are now online and state that there were no major problems until the 3rd day when food and water supplies ran low, the facility became unsanitary, The city's occupants were suppsed to be evacuated, Mark, not sent to the Superdome. The city officials had five days to do this. They should have ordered evacuations early. Have -- and use -- a plan for evacuating people who can't get out on their own: New Orleans apparently had a plan, but didn't use it. All those flooded buses could have gotten people out. Except that there would have had to have been somewhere to take them. The Superdome situation only became a tragedy as time passed and the anticipated rescue did not come. Stock supplies and prepare facilities: The Superdome didn't have adequate food, water, and toilet facilities, even though everybody knew it was going to be a shelter of last resort. The Convention Center was worse. All public buildings that might be used for refugees should be ready. and panic began to spread with occasional bouts of violence and deaths. So, what happened to all the police? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Monica Lewinsky
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like all decent members of this family-oriented group, I am SHOCKED and APPALLED by this comment. However, it did start me thinking about whether, if I were to be faced with a choice, I would sooner spend the night in the Superdome or in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. It's a difficult choice since they are both, according to the accounts I read, hot, sticky and wet. But after giving the matter careful thought, I've decided that I would opt for the Superdome, since I would be safe in the knowledge that eventually the National Guard would come along and pull me out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hurricane Katrina is George Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is that tens of thousands of people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. --Jon Stewart what a disgraceful thing to say or even to bring up. I laughed so hard the dog came over to make sure I was OK. Thanks, thats so much funnier that recerts and pundits! JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Monica Lewinsky
jstein wrote: Hurricane Katrina is George Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is that tens of thousands of people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. --Jon Stewart This has got to be a low point for Judy - first she tried to play the politics card and then the race card - now she wants to play the pervert card. From the Washington Post: Is holding those accountable a partisan issue? To some degree, evidently so. The leading voices demanding answers from the federal government have mostly been Democratic, while Republican leaders are pointing fingers at local officials. And polls show that party affiliation has an enormous effect on people's initial opinion on whether Bush has conducted himself admirably or not. Read more: 'Partisan Squabble or Dereliction of Duty?' By Dan Froomkin The Washington Post, Thursday, September 8, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/8ysna Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
Rick Archer wrote: Amma is brilliant, but she has a 4th grade education. I doubt she knows much Sanskrit. So, Amma wouldn't be knowing anything about the origins of the Vedic religion then, since she can't even read her own scriptures. Go figure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
jstein wrote: Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President, or race, or sexual perversion factors in the rescue. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Signal to noise ratio.
Message 71649 has a contribution of 5 lines and quotes 1,020 lines of history. There's going to come a time when we have to pay per 1,000 bytes moved. here it is if you don't believe me: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages/71649 Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jstein wrote: Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President, or race, or sexual perversion factors in the rescue. Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
Vaj wrote: My point was low-tech back-up plans are easy to implement and often--as in the case of our Ham radio back-up--volunteers will often do the set-up for you. No large expense was necessary. And speaking of low-tech back-up plans, I haven't heard anything about the Emergency Alert System in relation to Katrina. Was it on? Did it work? Did it provide any useful information? I would think that a system that's been tested weekly since the 50's would have been pretty reliable! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Poll: What most Americans believe
Based on this CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, roughly half of those responding to the survey rated both the federal agencies' performance and the state and local agencies' performance as good or great, compared to bad or terrible, with the state and local levels scoring a little higher. When asked who is to blame for the problems in the city following the hurricane, 13% said President Bush; 18% said federal agencies; 25% blamed state or local officials; and 38% said no one. Rather surprisingly in view of the constant bad publicity, 63% said that no one should be fired as a result of the response to the hurricane. Moreover, 62% say that the progress now being made is satisfactory. 'Poll: Most Americans believe New Orleans will never ecover' http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/07/katrina.poll/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'
jstein wrote: Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent said it was good or great. So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President, or race, or sexual perversion factors in the rescue, but you insist on playing the politics card, the race card, and the sexual perversion card, and now the poll card. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Monica Lewinsky
Katrina will not write a book and be interviewed by Barbara Walters. Hillary wrote a book and Bill wrote a book, but neither said anything about being prepared for a disaster did they? From the New York Times: Whatever the policy at stake - trade, defense, transportation, energy - it's likely to morph into a jobs issue because that's what's most on people's minds. So politicians concerned about re-election will do what they can to protect jobs against free trade, base closings, or whatever else might threaten them; and to create jobs by getting as much pork as possible. 'An Economy Raised on Pork' By Robert B. Reich The New York Times, September 3, 2005 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/03/opinion/03Reich.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Golden Balls?
I must have missed a post about these photographs in our album section. What is the mystery supposed to be here? The golden balls are artifacts from the camera lense. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] First Gallup Poll on Hurricane Response
Again, the views were strongly based on partisan leanings, with Republicans giving the president good grades on this issue by a 69% to 10% margin, while Democrats' views were precisely the opposite. 'First Gallup Poll on Hurricane Response' Editor Publisher, September 07, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/cnneu Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First Gallup Poll on Hurricane Response
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, the views were strongly based on partisan leanings, with Republicans giving the president good grades on this issue by a 69% to 10% margin, while Democrats' views were precisely the opposite. 'First Gallup Poll on Hurricane Response' Editor Publisher, September 07, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/cnneu Here's a trend you may find interesting. The Zogby America Poll from www.pollingreport.com: Overall, how would you rate President Bush's performance on the job? Date-Excellent/Good-Fair/Poor 9/01..82%..18% 9/02..63%..36% 9/03..50%..49% 9/04..47%..52% 9/05..40%..59% Note: Zogby polls tend to favor conservative issues. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] MMY on the luck of the world
The Luck of the World Global Press Conference, 24.8.05 MAHARISHI: ...sometimes we begin to feel to be angry on these people (government). Then we compromise and say, those who can not think properly how can we be angry on them. Their brain is functioning distorted. So how can we be angry on them. They have been drugged in their early stages. They are not eating proper food. In the name of medicine they are eating poison for new diseases to come up. How you can expect them to be sensible to themselves or sensible to others... So the conclusion in my mind is, do what we ourselves can do. Do what we can do and don`t think much of anything. Whatever coherence we can create in any country, that will be our contribution for creating that coherence in the national consciousness. Governments are not in the position to hear... We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big groups) very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. It is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I am continuing... It is not necessary to be angry on them because, if a man is rushing on to the hell, you can`t stop him. He is running and rushing to get into the gates of hell. What you can do? But inform him before he starts in that direction. Tell him you are divine inside, you are cosmic inside, you are universal inside. Your soul is a unified field. You are bliss inside. You are a flow of bliss. You are a flow of total Natural Law. You are invincible. You are powerful. You are integrated... It is just a matter of the total atmosphere which has a great influence on the individual. And the total atmosphere we are aiming at, purifying the total atmosphere. Harmony, positivity in the national consciousness of every country, in the world consciousness. Big groups, big groups. And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. But it is enjoyable, this way or that way. We are on the right way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First Gallup Poll on Hurricane Response
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, the views were strongly based on partisan leanings, with Republicans giving the president good grades on this issue by a 69% to 10% margin, while Democrats' views were precisely the opposite. 'First Gallup Poll on Hurricane Response' Editor Publisher, September 07, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/cnneu Here's a trend you may find interesting. The Zogby America Poll from www.pollingreport.com: Overall, how would you rate President Bush's performance on the job? Date-Excellent/Good-Fair/Poor 9/01..82%..18% 9/02..63%..36% 9/03..50%..49% 9/04..47%..52% 9/05..40%..59% Note: Zogby polls tend to favor conservative issues. Bush suffers in polls post-Katrina By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent President George W. Bush's image suffered in public opinion polls taken after Hurricane Katrina hit the U.S. Gulf Coast, with some finding growing doubts about his leadership and the country's direction. After a week of criticism for a slow response to the devastation caused by Katrina, polls released on Thursday registered drops in Bush's approval ratings and in confidence in his leadership. A Pew Research Center poll found 67 percent of Americans believed Bush could have done more to speed up relief efforts, and just 28 percent believed he did all he could. His approval rating slipped to 40 percent, down four points since July to the lowest point Pew has recorded A CBS poll taken September 6-7 found 38 percent approved of Bush's handling of the storm's aftermath, while 58 percent disapproved. That was a dramatic shift from immediately after the storm last week, when 54 percent approved and 12 percent disapproved. The CBS poll also found confidence in Bush during a crisis had fallen and only 48 percent now view him as a strong leader -- the lowest number ever for Bush in the poll. A year ago 64 percent of voters saw Bush as a strong leader. Bush's approval rating fell to 41 percent in a new Zogby poll, with only 36 percent giving him a passing grade on his handling of the response to the storm. The Zogby poll also found broad pessimism among a majority of Americans after the storm, with 53 percent saying the country is headed in the wrong direction and 42 percent saying it is on the right track A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll taken on September 5-6 found 42 percent believed Bush did a bad or terrible job handling the storm and subsequent flooding, while 35 percent thought he performed great or good Copyright © 2005 Reuters Limited. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Oops...
Right city, wrong state FEMA accused of flying evacuees to wrong Charleston (CNN) Add geography to the growing list of FEMA fumbles. A South Carolina health official said his colleagues scrambled Tuesday when FEMA gave only a half-hour notice to prepare for the arrival of a plane carrying as many as 180 evacuees to Charleston. But the plane, instead, landed in Charleston, West Virginia, 400 miles away. It was not known whether arrangements have been made to care for the evacuees or transport them to the correct destination. A call seeking comment from FEMA was not immediately returned. We called in all the available resources, said Dr. John Simkovich, director of public health for the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control. They responded within 30 minutes, which is phenomenal, to meet the needs of the citizens coming in from Louisiana, he said. Simkovich said that the agency had described some of the evacuees as needing some minor treatment ... possibly some major treatment. Unfortunately, the plane did not come in, Simkovich said. There was a mistake in the system, coming out through FEMA, that we did not receive the aircraft this afternoon. It went to Charleston, West Virginia. A line of buses and ambulances idled behind him at Charleston International Airport as he described what happened. This is a 'no event' for today, Simkovich said. Find this article at: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/06/katrina.charleston/index.html? section=cnn_latest Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Bush Could Use/Some of Reagan's Teflon'
'The Blame Game' Doesn't the President know, the buck stops with him? Does he think, he is the CEO of a large corporation; Andas we know, in a corporate structure; No one takes responsibility; And are only beholding to the stock holders; And the poor own no stock. Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
