[FairfieldLife] Re: 'All Television Networks/Will Carry Live Concert, Tonight 8:00pm EDT'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be a very emotional experience! And good harmony, hopefully. I'll out of my way to miss it. Maudlin, self-congratulatory, full of superlatives, hyperbole and platitudes rhetoric from the politically-correct Hollywood In-Crowd is NOT my idea of entertainment. Actually, Shemp, I watched a little of it because AOL is making it available, and it was more tasteful than any other such benefit concert I've ever seen. The artists just perform a song, that's all. They don't speak. No one introduced them. There is not even a subtitle on the screen telling you who you're watching. Just songs, punctuated with scenes from the disaster and requests for contributions. Maybe some of those politically-correct Hollywood In-Crowd types you like to look down on actually did something nice for a change, while you just sat on your ass switching channels, looking for your idea of entertainment. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. snip And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is talking about when he says, We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic...? Sounds crazy to me. Caught my eye too. I suspect it's one of his quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple interpretations. The way I read it, he's saying there's an explanation that makes sense (the logic), but at the same time, in characterizing it as hiding, he's also suggesting that it's an excuse. As in: Some of you are mature enough to take responsibility for the failure without being crushed, and you don't need the excuse; those of you who who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide behind. And the whole tone of the message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in his movement. Or am I missing something? He's being more explicit about the failure than I've seen before, actually, but for whatever reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it. Benevolent of him, since the failure is his. On the other hand, we includes him. (In fact, one might even read it as the royal we, referring to himself alone. He frequently uses we to mean himself.) Mark Twain said it best: The only people who are entitled to refer to themselves as 'we' are kings, editors, and people with tapeworms. He may or may not be entitled, but the question here is not whether he's entitled but whether that's what he's doing, in the context of taking personal responsibility for the failure he's talking about. Then again, Mark didn't know about MPD and delus- ional psychosis. The bottom line for me is that Maharishi has a bad case of Lao-tzu Disease. That's where you get to the end of your life as a teacher and find that things haven't gone quite as planned and neither the students nor the world has benefited from your life the way you once hoped they would, and your reaction to this is to blame the students and blame the world. Unless you're also--or exclusively--blaming yourself, of course. It seems to me that what MMY is saying here is that he thought it could be done, but he was wrong. It looks like you want him to say that it *could* have been done, but he failed to do it. Is that what you're suggesting? Lao-tzu reacted to catching this disease by stalking off in a snit-fit and leaving China forever; Maharishi seems to be reacting by trying to con his students and the world out of as much money as humanly possible before he goes. They must *pay* for disappoint- ing me! Some doctor should have said to the both of them: Remember non-attachment, take two doses of self- less service, quit whining, and call me in the morning. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Hurrican Katrina: The Real Story
The following was forwarded from a friend. These are eye witness accounts of what happened in New Orleans. The names have been partially deleted. Peace, Marc -- hi friends- We need to know something closer to the truth than the lies and deceptions which are so hard to sift through. Please read these first hand accounts and pass on to your own friends. love, bruce Two friends of mine-paramedics attending a conference-were trapped in New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina. This is their eyewitness report. PG #1 Hurricane Katrina-Our Experiences by Larry B., Lorrie S. Two days after Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans, the Walgreen's store at the corner of Royal and Iberville streets remained locked. The dairy display case was clearly visible through the widows. It was now 48 hours without electricity, running water, plumbing. The milk, yogurt, and cheeses were beginning to spoil in the 90-degree heat. The owners and managers had locked up the food, water, pampers, and prescriptions and fled the City. Outside Walgreen's windows, residents and tourists grew increasingly thirsty and hungry. The much-promised federal, state and local aid never materialized and the windows at Walgreen's gave way to the looters. There was an alternative. The cops could have broken one small window and distributed the nuts, fruit juices, and bottle water in an organized and systematic manner. But they did not. Instead they spent hours playing cat and mouse, temporarily chasing away the looters. We were finally airlifted out of New Orleans two days ago and arrived home yesterday (Saturday). We have yet to see any of the TV coverage or look at a newspaper. We are willing to guess that there were no video images or front-page pictures of European or affluent white tourists looting the Walgreen's in the French Quarter. We also suspect the media will have been inundated with hero images of the National Guard, the troops and the police struggling to help the victims of the Hurricane. What you will not see, but what we witnessed, were the real heroes and sheroes of the hurricane relief effort: the working class of New Orleans. The maintenance workers who used a fork lift to carry the sick and disabled. The engineers, who rigged, nurtured and kept the generators running. The electricians who improvised thick extension cords stretching over blocks to share the little electricity we had in order to free cars stuck on rooftop parking lots. Nurses who took over for mechanical ventilators and spent many hours on end manually forcing air into the lungs of unconscious patients to keep them alive. Doormen who rescued folks stuck in elevators. Refinery workers who broke into boat yards, stealing boats to rescue their neighbors clinging to their roofs in flood waters. Mechanics who helped hot-wire any car that could be found to ferry people out of the City. And the food service workers who scoured the commercial kitchens improvising communal meals for hundreds of those stranded. Most of these workers had lost their homes, and had not heard from members of their families, yet they stayed and provided the only infrastructure for the 20% of New Orleans that was not under water. On Day 2, there were approximately 500 of us left in the hotels in the French Quarter. We were a mix of foreign tourists, conference attendees like ourselves, and locals who had checked into hotels for safety and shelter from Katrina. Some of us had cell phone contact with family and friends outside of New Orleans. We were repeatedly told that all sorts of resources including the National Guard and scores of buses were pouring in to the City. The buses and the other resources must have been invisible because none of us had seen them. We decided we had to save ourselves. So we pooled our money and came up with $25,000 to have ten buses come and take us out of the City. Those who did not have the requisite $45.00 for a ticket were subsidized by those who did have extra money. We waited for 48 hours for the buses, spending the last 12 hours standing outside, sharing the limited water, food, and clothes we had. We created a priority boarding area for the sick, elderly and new born babies. We waited late into the night for the imminent arrival of the buses. The buses never arrived. We later learned that the minute the arrived at the City limits, they were commandeered by the military. (con't after story #2) ~~ #2(from a friend at the Univ of Texas. It seems to me that everyone should hear this - it's so easy to believe that it was mad gangs with guns roaming New Orleans as we have been told when in fact there is
[FairfieldLife] Samurai I is on IFC today!
Director Hiroshi Inagaki's first of three parts of Samurai series based on the life of Musashi Miyamoto. ToshirĂ´ Mifune shines in the lead role. This topic came up earlier this year. IFC usually airs martial arts films on Saturday mornings at 8am (EST). The next showing of Samurai I will be at 2pm (EST) this afternoon. The film will air one more time tomorrow morning at 6am (EST). Next Saturday, tune in for part two. Part three will likely air on Saturday on Sept. 24, 2005. Peace, Marc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samurai I is on IFC today!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, medwards520 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Director Hiroshi Inagaki's first of three parts of Samurai series based on the life of Musashi Miyamoto. ToshirĂ´ Mifune shines in the lead role. This topic came up earlier this year. IFC usually airs martial arts films on Saturday mornings at 8am (EST). The next showing of Samurai I will be at 2pm (EST) this afternoon. The film will air one more time tomorrow morning at 6am (EST). Next Saturday, tune in for part two. Part three will likely air on Saturday on Sept. 24, 2005. Peace, Marc Not to be missed, if you get this channel and haven't seen the series. Miyamoto Musashi was the best samurai of his day, so unbeatable in battle that towards the end of his life he didn't even bother to fight his opponents with a sword...he'd use a stick or an oar instead and still beat them. He was also the author of The Book of Five Rings, a manual of strategy and tactics that is as much philosophy as it is pragmatic advice to other samurai. Mifune is as amazing as always, a true icon of Bushido. Unc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stones: Still Can't Git No Satisfaction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolling Stones Fight for Radio Play, Hire Expert It's not easy being the world's greatest rock and roll band. The Rolling Stones, currently on tour and selling tickets for $450 a pop, are having so much trouble getting their new single played on the radio that they've even hired a specialist to help them Standard practice. They're called pluggers. Apart from the Comets, how many US bands are still touring forty years on? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stones: Still Can't Git No Satisfaction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolling Stones Fight for Radio Play, Hire Expert It's not easy being the world's greatest rock and roll band. The Rolling Stones, currently on tour and selling tickets for $450 a pop, are having so much trouble getting their new single played on the radio that they've even hired a specialist to help them Standard practice. They're called pluggers. Apart from the Comets, how many US bands are still touring forty years on? Well, Bo Diddley is still touring 60 years on, and as good as ever. He used to play often in Santa Fe because he lives outside of Albuquerque. Feisty old guy, able to make fun of himself (you haven't lived until you've heard Bo do a parody of one of his own songs as sung by a Vegas lounge singer), and a ferocious guitarist. He can play anything, in almost any style...heck, he invented half of them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stones: Still Can't Git No Satisfaction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolling Stones Fight for Radio Play, Hire Expert It's not easy being the world's greatest rock and roll band. The Rolling Stones, currently on tour and selling tickets for $450 a pop, are having so much trouble getting their new single played on the radio that they've even hired a specialist to help them Standard practice. They're called pluggers. Apart from the Comets, how many US bands are still touring forty years on? Well, Bo Diddley is still touring 60 years on, and as good as ever. He used to play often in Santa Fe because he lives outside of Albuquerque. Feisty old guy, able to make fun of himself (you haven't lived until you've heard Bo do a parody of one of his own songs as sung by a Vegas lounge singer), and a ferocious guitarist. He can play anything, in almost any style...heck, he invented half of them. Wow! The man who taught us that guitars could have corners. Does he have his web site? Does he tour outside the US? One of the few people who can be recognised from one note only. Along with Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee and many of the old bluesmen... Quite a few, really. A side swipe at a Brit basher has turned into a bit of an own goal. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stones: Still Can't Git No Satisfaction
Apart from the Comets, how many US bands are still touring forty years on? Well, Bo Diddley is still touring 60 years on, and as good as ever. He used to play often in Santa Fe because he lives outside of Albuquerque. Feisty old guy, able to make fun of himself (you haven't lived until you've heard Bo do a parody of one of his own songs as sung by a Vegas lounge singer), and a ferocious guitarist. He can play anything, in almost any style...heck, he invented half of them. Wow! The man who taught us that guitars could have corners. Does he have his web site? Does he tour outside the US? One of the few people who can be recognised from one note only. Along with Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee and many of the old bluesmen... Quite a few, really. A side swipe at a Brit basher has turned into a bit of an own goal. There are a number of websites out there for Bo, according to Google, but I doubt any of them are his. Since you seem to like the gentleman, I'll tell you the best part of what he's like when he plays these days. Bo doesn't have a band. What happens is that someone tries to book him into a club somewhere, and Bo calls back and says Yes, then asks who the hottest young blues/rock bands in that town are. Then he calls them up until he finds one that is willing to back him up. He meets with the band for about an hour or so before the concert, just to rehearse a bit, agree on the songs that the band knows, keys, etc., and then they go onstage and play. And the magical part is that every time I've seen him do this, it was a *fabulous* concert. The young turks are up there playing their hearts out, ecstatic to be playing with one of their idols, and Bo's out front struttin' and cracking jokes and playing that cigar-box geetar of his. A great time, if you happen to run into him playing anywhere. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Subject: AEGTC, Switzerland 1976 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Williams) AEGTC, Switzerland 1976 By Jay Latham Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! Jay Latham: Maharishi, these experiences I've had over the past six months have been glimpses of enlightenment for me. I had a tremendous awakening experience before I started TM, but due to the circumstances, I feel a little shy about telling it in the group. I then sent him a thought message that I would relate my experience and not the circumstances. Maharishi paused for a moment to think about what I'd just said. It'll be all right to tell it, he said finally, in a thoughtful sort of way. Maharishi, you've said that for every state of consciousness there is a separate, corresponding state of reality. Waking state has its reality, dream state has its reality, and deep sleep is another reality. Yes. You've taught us that transcendental consciousness is a fourth state of consciousness?a fourth reality that is the underlying reality of all life. Yes. And you've taught that cosmic consciousness is a higher state of reality, because one never loses consciousness of the transcendent even during waking, dreaming and sleeping. Yes. You've also said that God consciousness and unity consciousness are even deeper states of reality; so we have all these states of consciousness and all these states of corresponding realities. Maharishi said yes this time in a somewhat impatient way, as if to convey, Get to the point, where are you going with this? I'd been feeling an almighty power rise up inside of me as I asked Maharishi each one of these questions, because I was consciously setting him up to refute all that he had just said. I knew he knew the truth, but I wanted him to come out with it in a way he had never done before. It was time for us to stop playing around like little children at his feet, and elicit from him the real truth. A great rage suddenly ripped through my chest, burning the lie in my heart. I wanted Maharishi to kill it right then and there, for all time. Maharishi, in the experience of wholeness I had before I started TM, what you've just said that basically reality is different in different states of consciousness, is a total lie! What I experienced one night five years ago, is that there is only one reality, has always been one reality, and will forever be one reality! EVERYTHING ELSE IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE! YES! YES! YES! Maharishi loudly proclaimed. With each YES, his fist came down on the table, Bang, Bang, Bang! Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! I don't want to hear anything but experiences of real wholeness! Continue with your experience. What I discovered in my experience, Maharishi, was that the personality I know as Jay Latharn is a complete, fictitious lie. There is only one Being, God. Everything else, even the 'reality' of God consciousness, is an illusion. It's just like Shankara said. Now this is the real experience of wholeness! Maharishi proclaimed excitedly. What happened is that I had an experience in which I went through all of the states of consciousness. When I hit cosmic consciousness I closed my eyes to meditate and witnessed creation in the flow of soma out of the bindu point between my eyes. Everything shot out of that point, in stereo?whatever came out on the left came out on the right. I saw the mechanics of creation. It was the most amazing sight I ever saw. After that I started having celestial perception with my eyes open. I then briefly explained the major points of my experiencethe jewels I'd seen in the ceiling and how things were constructed of light rays created from God's mind?how I walked and moved through a cosmic plasma that erased the force of gravity, etc. Maharishi was paying close attention to what I was saying, and having his attention on me like this was like having God Almighty bum the lie right out of my heart. The longer I held his attention, the more enlightened I got. Yes, lie had closely followed rny progress for the past six months and given me a lot of attention, but this moment was the greatest I'd ever had with him. I continued relating to Maharishi the progressive stages of rny awakening; how I had felt the presence of God in everything and how everything I perceived became the artwork of the Creator (Maharishi's descriptive words for sensory experiences in the state of God consciousness). I told him of my insights into God revealing to man the blueprints for a more comfortable life on earth throughout the centuries, and how I went from God consciousness into Unity Consciousness and perceived God looking back at me in every object that
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'All Television Networks/Will Carry Live Concert, Tonight 8:00pm EDT'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be a very emotional experience! And good harmony, hopefully. I'll out of my way to miss it. Maudlin, self-congratulatory, full of superlatives, hyperbole and platitudes rhetoric from the politically-correct Hollywood In- Crowd is NOT my idea of entertainment. Actually, Shemp, I watched a little of it because AOL is making it available, and it was more tasteful than any other such benefit concert I've ever seen. The artists just perform a song, that's all. They don't speak. No one introduced them. There is not even a subtitle on the screen telling you who you're watching. Just songs, punctuated with scenes from the disaster and requests for contributions. Maybe some of those politically-correct Hollywood In-Crowd types you like to look down on actually did something nice for a change, while you just sat on your ass switching channels, looking for your idea of entertainment. That is precisely what I did...and last night, sadly, I didn't find it on the other channels either. Television is, indeed, a vast wasteland: 200 channels and nothing good on. But I'm glad to hear the Hollywood crowd shut up and just sang their songs. And I'm glad you were entertained, Tantra. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Desperately poor cannot adapt to emergencies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parts of the U.S.A. are as Poor as the Third World Stop writing such absurd things. There is NO part of the U.S.A. that is as poor as the Third World and you demean the state of REAL poverty that exists in the Third World and diminish the meaning of the word poverty by using it as hyperbole as you do. You need to visit parts of India as well as America...and you don't have to believe everything you read in the media...you can use your common sense, you know... For half a century the US has seen a sustained decline in the number of children who die before their fifth birthday. - But since 2000 this trend has been reversed. The infant mortality rate in the US is now the same as in Malaysia By Paul Vallely The Independent [UK], 08 September 2005 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article311066.ece Parts of the United States are as poor as the Third World, according to a shocking United Nations report on global inequality. Claims that the New Orleans floods have laid bare a growing racial and economic divide in the US have, until now, been rejected by the American political establishment as emotional rhetoric. But yesterday's UN report provides statistical proof that for many - well beyond those affected by the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - the great American Dream is an ongoing nightmare. The document constitutes a stinging attack on US policies at home and abroad in a fightback against moves by Washington to undermine next week's UN 60th anniversary conference which will be the biggest gathering of world leaders in history. The annual Human Development Report normally concerns itself with the Third World, but the 2005 edition scrutinises inequalities in health provision inside the US as part of a survey of how inequality worldwide is retarding the eradication of poverty. It reveals that the infant mortality rate has been rising in the US for the past five years - and is now the same as Malaysia. America's black children are twice as likely as whites to die before their first birthday. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stones: Still Can't Git No Satisfaction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolling Stones Fight for Radio Play, Hire Expert It's not easy being the world's greatest rock and roll band. The Rolling Stones, currently on tour and selling tickets for $450 a pop, are having so much trouble getting their new single played on the radio that they've even hired a specialist to help them Standard practice. They're called pluggers. Apart from the Comets, how many US bands are still touring forty years on? New York Philharmonic. Beach Boys. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stones: Still Can't Git No Satisfaction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolling Stones Fight for Radio Play, Hire Expert It's not easy being the world's greatest rock and roll band. The Rolling Stones, currently on tour and selling tickets for $450 a pop, are having so much trouble getting their new single played on the radio that they've even hired a specialist to help them Standard practice. They're called pluggers. Apart from the Comets, how many US bands are still touring forty years on? Well, Bo Diddley is still touring 60 years on, and as good as ever. He used to play often in Santa Fe because he lives outside of Albuquerque. Feisty old guy, able to make fun of himself (you haven't lived until you've heard Bo do a parody of one of his own songs as sung by a Vegas lounge singer), and a ferocious guitarist. He can play anything, in almost any style...heck, he invented half of them. Wow! The man who taught us that guitars could have corners. Does he have his web site? Does he tour outside the US? One of the few people who can be recognised from one note only. Along with Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee and many of the old bluesmen... Quite a few, really. A side swipe at a Brit basher has turned into a bit of an own goal. Uns. Can't stand any and all of the classic blues players mentioned above: shrill, off-key music that sounds like it's coming from broken electric guitars with holes in the amps. British Rock of the '60s took all of that music and improved it 100%. Kudos to the Beatles, the Animals, Manfred Mann, the Dave Clark Five... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'All Television Networks/Will Carry Live Concert, Tonight 8:00pm EDT'
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be a very emotional experience! And good harmony, hopefully. I'll out of my way to miss it. Maudlin, self-congratulatory, full of superlatives, hyperbole and platitudes rhetoric from the politically-correct Hollywood In- Crowd is NOT my idea of entertainment. Actually, Shemp, I watched a little of it because AOL is making it available, and it was more tasteful than any other such benefit concert I've ever seen. The artists just perform a song, that's all. They don't speak. No one introduced them. There is not even a subtitle on the screen telling you who you're watching. Just songs, punctuated with scenes from the disaster and requests for contributions. Maybe some of those politically-correct Hollywood In-Crowd types you like to look down on actually did something nice for a change, while you just sat on your ass switching channels, looking for your idea of entertainment. That is precisely what I did...and last night, sadly, I didn't find it on the other channels either. Television is, indeed, a vast wasteland: 200 channels and nothing good on. But I'm glad to hear the Hollywood crowd shut up and just sang their songs. And I'm glad you were entertained, Tantra. You must not be into Sci-Fi Fridays. :) Battlestar Gallactica (of all things) is one of the best shows on TV these days. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
In a message dated 9/9/05 9:36:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush issued an executive order on Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage. Prevailing wage where?In certain areas of the country, many jobs are union only, demanding union wages and benefits. This is definitely not, nor has ever been, the case for Louisiana or New Orleans. Allowing contractors to use non union labor will stretch the federal dollar and provide more jobs. Probably will also change the racial make up of the city as well. I can pictures thousands of Mexicans pouring into the city ready to work without complaining about how many bricks per hour they are going to lay. Damn that is unfair! Texas gets New Orleans welfare population and New Orleans get our hard working Mexican immigrants! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. snip And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is talking about when he says, We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic...? Sounds crazy to me. Caught my eye too. I suspect it's one of his quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple interpretations. The way I read it, he's saying there's an explanation that makes sense (the logic), but at the same time, in characterizing it as hiding, he's also suggesting that it's an excuse. As in: Some of you are mature enough to take responsibility for the failure without being crushed, and you don't need the excuse; those of you who who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide behind. And the whole tone of the message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in his movement. Or am I missing something? He's being more explicit about the failure than I've seen before, actually, but for whatever reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it. TurquoiseBBenevolent of him, since the failure is his. Correct. -OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'We've Been Disgraced!'
In a message dated 9/9/05 11:53:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thought he and his wife, try so hard to appear graceful; By wearing the proper clothes washed and well mated. And getting the proper excersize, keeping the heart rate down. All of this for the good of the public image. And image is what we want, we really do, want a; Good looking Pres. and First Lady right? But anyhow; Didn't Clinton take some heat in the 2000 campaign for criticizing Tipper Gore for being a bit too "chubby"? Saying America didn't want a fat first lady. Or some such thing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...
In a message dated 9/9/05 12:16:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "There's some encouragement in the initial sweeps. Some of the catastrophic deaths some people have predicted may not have occurred," Col. Terry Ebbert, director of Homeland Security for the city of New Orleans said at a news conference."The numbers so far are relatively minor as compared with the dire predictions of 10,000." THIS is a catastrophe for the democrats since they are counting on a high body count to lay at the feet of Bush. The more that died the more they will love it. Of course that only works if the people blame Bush. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...
In a message dated 9/9/05 1:15:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cliff wrote:The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first feared..., But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and thegovernor of Louisinana that the death toll could reach into thethousands - the worst storm to ever hit the U.S.A. What's the deathtoll now and how does that compare with previous hurricanes to hit themainland? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'We've Been Disgraced!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 11:53:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thought he and his wife, try so hard to appear graceful; By wearing the proper clothes washed and well mated. And getting the proper excersize, keeping the heart rate down. All of this for the good of the public image. And image is what we want, we really do, want a; Good looking Pres. and First Lady right? But anyhow; Didn't Clinton take some heat in the 2000 campaign for criticizing Tipper Gore for being a bit too chubby? Saying America didn't want a fat first lady. Or some such thing. I always thought Tipper was hot, chubby or non-chubby. The three Gore Daughters are, too. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...
In a message dated 9/9/05 1:15:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cliff wrote:The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first feared..., But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and thegovernor of Louisinana that the death toll could reach into thethousands - the worst storm to ever hit the U.S.A. What's the deathtoll now and how does that compare with previous hurricanes to hit themainland? Over four thousand died in the Hurricane in 1900 that hit Galveston Texas. Seems I have heard higher figures, but 4,000 is the most recent I remember hearing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
In a message dated 9/9/05 1:26:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jstein wrote: Are you asking me, or Sparaig? I'm asking both of you - why aren't you reporting that the LouisianaDepartment of Homeland Security wouldn't let the Red Cross and theSalvation Army in to take food and water to the people stranded at theSuperdome in New Orleans? Why are you withholding information from thegroup? You seem to have plenty of time on your hands. Judy correct if I'm wrong , but didn't you say last week in some of your posts that the Red Cross was trying to deliver food and water to the super dome but were told not to go in because they didn't want people to stay , that they wanted them to leave? Of course you were blaming FEMA for turning the relief supplies back, not Louisiana authorities. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hero Wal-Mart
In a message dated 9/9/05 7:22:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal-Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal-Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Those mean nasty Wal-Mart people that pay minimum wage and aren't union! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Desperately poor cannot adapt to emergencies
In a message dated 9/9/05 9:49:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Parts of the United States are as poor as the Third World, according to a shocking United Nations report on global inequality.Claims that the New Orleans floods have laid bare a growing racial and economic divide in the US have, until now, been rejected by the American political establishment as emotional rhetoric. But yesterday's UN report provides statistical proof that for many - well beyond those affected by the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - the great American Dream is an ongoing nightmare. How can this be! Louisiana has been run by democrats since the 1920's. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 1:26:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jstein wrote: Are you asking me, or Sparaig? I'm asking both of you - why aren't you reporting that the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security wouldn't let the Red Cross and the Salvation Army in to take food and water to the people stranded at the Superdome in New Orleans? Why are you withholding information from the group? You seem to have plenty of time on your hands. Judy correct if I'm wrong You're wrong, and so is Willytex. First, note that I was not addressing Willytex but Cliff, so Willytex's response is a non sequitur. I wasn't asking Willytex anything at all, nor had he previously asked me what he claims. but didn't you say last week in some of your posts that the Red Cross was trying to deliver food and water to the super dome but were told not to go in because they didn't want people to stay, that they wanted them to leave? Actually I quoted the Red Cross's own Web site to that effect. Note that Willytex claimed I had been withholding that information, when in fact I was the first to post it to this forum. Of course you were blaming FEMA for turning the relief supplies back, not Louisiana authorities. Of course I was? Hint: I'd rethink that if I were you. You don't want to embarrass yourself again, do you? Oh, never mind, you're so clueless it doesn't matter. Here's my original post (75011): From the Hurricane Katrina section of the Disaster FAQs on the Red Cross's Web site: Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans? Acess to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders. The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city. The Red Cross could have gotten food and water and medical and other supplies into New Orleans *long* before yesterday, when the first supplies were sent in under the aegis of the National Guard and the feds. Some people have died and many thousands more have endured incredible suffering, in other words, in order to force them to evacuate. The mind boggles. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 7:22:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal-Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal-Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Those mean nasty Wal-Mart people that pay minimum wage and aren't union! And therefore have a lot of extra profit they can use to garner good PR in a situation like this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces
Now that's living! Thanks for posting this!! I like the expression of the intellect turning inside out. Beautiful! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Subject: AEGTC, Switzerland 1976 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Williams) AEGTC, Switzerland 1976 By Jay Latham Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! Jay Latham: Maharishi, these experiences I've had over the past six months have been glimpses of enlightenment for me. I had a tremendous awakening experience before I started TM, but due to the circumstances, I feel a little shy about telling it in the group. I then sent him a thought message that I would relate my experience and not the circumstances. Maharishi paused for a moment to think about what I'd just said. It'll be all right to tell it, he said finally, in a thoughtful sort of way. Maharishi, you've said that for every state of consciousness there is a separate, corresponding state of reality. Waking state has its reality, dream state has its reality, and deep sleep is another reality. Yes. You've taught us that transcendental consciousness is a fourth state of consciousness?a fourth reality that is the underlying reality of all life. Yes. And you've taught that cosmic consciousness is a higher state of reality, because one never loses consciousness of the transcendent even during waking, dreaming and sleeping. Yes. You've also said that God consciousness and unity consciousness are even deeper states of reality; so we have all these states of consciousness and all these states of corresponding realities. Maharishi said yes this time in a somewhat impatient way, as if to convey, Get to the point, where are you going with this? I'd been feeling an almighty power rise up inside of me as I asked Maharishi each one of these questions, because I was consciously setting him up to refute all that he had just said. I knew he knew the truth, but I wanted him to come out with it in a way he had never done before. It was time for us to stop playing around like little children at his feet, and elicit from him the real truth. A great rage suddenly ripped through my chest, burning the lie in my heart. I wanted Maharishi to kill it right then and there, for all time. Maharishi, in the experience of wholeness I had before I started TM, what you've just said that basically reality is different in different states of consciousness, is a total lie! What I experienced one night five years ago, is that there is only one reality, has always been one reality, and will forever be one reality! EVERYTHING ELSE IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE! YES! YES! YES! Maharishi loudly proclaimed. With each YES, his fist came down on the table, Bang, Bang, Bang! Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! I don't want to hear anything but experiences of real wholeness! Continue with your experience. What I discovered in my experience, Maharishi, was that the personality I know as Jay Latharn is a complete, fictitious lie. There is only one Being, God. Everything else, even the 'reality' of God consciousness, is an illusion. It's just like Shankara said. Now this is the real experience of wholeness! Maharishi proclaimed excitedly. What happened is that I had an experience in which I went through all of the states of consciousness. When I hit cosmic consciousness I closed my eyes to meditate and witnessed creation in the flow of soma out of the bindu point between my eyes. Everything shot out of that point, in stereo?whatever came out on the left came out on the right. I saw the mechanics of creation. It was the most amazing sight I ever saw. After that I started having celestial perception with my eyes open. I then briefly explained the major points of my experiencethe jewels I'd seen in the ceiling and how things were constructed of light rays created from God's mind?how I walked and moved through a cosmic plasma that erased the force of gravity, etc. Maharishi was paying close attention to what I was saying, and having his attention on me like this was like having God Almighty bum the lie right out of my heart. The longer I held his attention, the more enlightened I got. Yes, lie had closely followed rny progress for the past six months and given me a lot of attention, but this moment was the greatest I'd ever had with him. I continued relating to Maharishi the progressive stages of rny awakening; how I had felt the presence of God in everything and how everything I perceived became the artwork of the Creator (Maharishi's
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stones: Still Can't Git No Satisfaction
In a message dated 9/10/05 9:44:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolling Stones Fight for Radio Play, Hire Expert It's not easy being the world's greatest rock and roll band. The Rolling Stones, currently on tour and selling tickets for $450 a pop, are having so much trouble getting their new single played on the radio that they've even hired a specialist to help them Stones have a new single out? Haven't heard it! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desperately poor cannot adapt to emergencies
In a message dated 9/10/05 11:31:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Parts of the U.S.A. are as Poor as the Third WorldStop writing such absurd things. There is NO part of the U.S.A. that is as poor as the Third World and you demean the state of REAL poverty that exists in the Third World and diminish the meaning of the word "poverty" by using it as hyperbole as you do.You need to visit parts of India as well as America...and you don't have to believe everything you read in the media...you can use your common sense, you know... Don't have to go to India! Just walk across the boarder into Mexico. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
In a message dated 9/10/05 12:55:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually I quoted the Red Cross's own Web site tothat effect.Note that Willytex claimed I had been "withholding"that information, when in fact I was the first topost it to this forum. Of course you were blaming FEMA for turning the relief supplies back, not Louisiana authorities."Of course" I was?Hint: I'd rethink that if I were you. You don'twant to embarrass yourself again, do you?Oh, never mind, you're so clueless it doesn'tmatter. Here's my original post (75011):From the Hurricane Katrina section of the Disaster FAQson the Red Cross's Web site:"Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans?"Acess to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and localauthorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simplycannot enter New Orleans against their orders."The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continuesto request--that the American Red Cross not come back into NewOrleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people fromevacuating and encourage others to come into the city."The Red Cross could have gotten food and waterand medical and other supplies into New Orleans*long* before yesterday, when the first supplieswere sent in under the aegis of the NationalGuard and the feds.Some people have died and many thousands more haveendured incredible suffering, in other words, inorder to force them to evacuate.The mind boggles. I remember this post in which you quoted Red Cross but also it seems there were a few others late that blamed FEMA for not getting the relief to the dome earlier. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
In a message dated 9/10/05 12:57:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And therefore have a lot of extra profit they canuse to garner good PR in a situation like this. And donate to charitable causes like Hurricane relief. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Desperately poor cannot adapt to emergencies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 9:49:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Parts of the United States are as poor as the Third World, according to a shocking United Nations report on global inequality. Claims that the New Orleans floods have laid bare a growing racial and economic divide in the US have, until now, been rejected by the American political establishment as emotional rhetoric. But yesterday's UN report provides statistical proof that for many - well beyond those affected by the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - the great American Dream is an ongoing nightmare. How can this be! Louisiana has been run by democrats since the 1920's. Is that the same 'statistical proof' that shows there was no fraud and corruption in the UN's Oil for Food program? JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...
Galveston Hurricane estimates range from 4,000 to 11,000 dead. Clearly no one really knows. Sept 8, 1900 was before anyone could predict hurricanes or give more than a few hours' warning. When your city lies 8 to 9 feet above sea level and the storm surge is 15 feet topped by 20 foot waves, you're in trouble. That was Galveston's situation. Utterly destroyed. But it was completely rebuilt in fairly short order and is now very well protected by a massive seawall. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 1:15:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cliff wrote: The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first feared..., But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisinana that the death toll could reach into the thousands - the worst storm to ever hit the U.S.A. What's the death toll now and how does that compare with previous hurricanes to hit the mainland? Over four thousand died in the Hurricane in 1900 that hit Galveston Texas. Seems I have heard higher figures, but 4,000 is the most recent I remember hear ing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'All Television Networks/Will Carry Live Concert, Tonight 8:00pm EDT'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must not be into Sci-Fi Fridays. :) Battlestar Gallactica (of all things) is one of the best shows on TV these days. One of the few things I miss about American TV is the SciFi Channel. They put together some remark- able productions. I saw the three pilot episodes of the new Battlestar Galactica the last time I was in the US. Looked great. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 7:22:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal-Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal-Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Those mean nasty Wal-Mart people that pay minimum wage and aren't union! And therefore have a lot of extra profit they can use to garner good PR in a situation like this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 7:22:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal- Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal- Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Those mean nasty Wal-Mart people that pay minimum wage and aren't union! And therefore have a lot of extra profit they can use to garner good PR in a situation like this. Is it undeserved? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Why bail out people who insist on living in dangerous areas?
Why? by Robert Anderson Shortly after Jean Baptiste Lemoyne founded New Orleans in 1718, a priest-chronicler named Charlevoix described it as a place of a hundred wretched hovels in a malarious wet thicket of willows and dwarf palmettos, infested by serpents and alligators. From its origins in a hollow at the angle of a deep three-sided bend in the Mississippi River, New Orleans slowly spread out for miles on a narrow alluvial strip between the River and Lake Pontchartrain. Today most of New Orleans lies either below sea level or at least below the level of the River and Lake. Only the levees, most of which were constructed beginning in the early part of the twentieth century, have kept the city dry. Until Katrina! Mother Nature has a unique, and sometimes deadly, way of reminding us of the penalty for defying her will. New Orleans, geographically, can best be described as an historical mistake. It would be unthinkable to construct a city in such a location now. Even if private developers wanted to do it, the political environmental lobby existing in America today would never tolerate such a violation or exploitation of the Mississippi River's wetlands. For decades governments have restricted or outright forbidden any sort of habitable development of America's wetlands. America's wetlands have become sacred ground to be preserved in perpetuity by the force of government edicts. So what's going on in the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans? Governments are about to spend billions of taxpayer dollars to reconstruct a city in a geographical depression below sea level next to an ocean subject to hurricanes. To describe the land area of New Orleans as merely wetlands is the ultimate understatement. Much of the city would be part of the ocean but for the levees! In fact, the whole of Louisiana from the existing site of New Orleans south is slowly returning to the sea. Virtually everyone knows the entire area is a high-risk area to both hurricanes and continual flooding from the Mississippi River. If nothing habitable existed there today, nothing ever would under existing governmental edicts protecting wetlands. So, why is government about to expend tens of billions of dollars to do something which they would forbid any private developers to even consider doing now? Nobody is asking that question, let alone answering it. Even to ask the question subjects one to criticism for not being compassionate toward the refugees evacuated from the cesspool which once was New Orleans. Guilt is imposed upon anyone who would selfishly suggest it's an insane idea to rebuild another city in an ocean. And yet it is! Why build a government-funded city where it can only survive until another failed levee again returns it to the sea? Why build a government-funded city below sea level when dry land exists all over America not exposed to flooding or hurricanes? And finally, why should Americans be taxed billions of dollars to build an American Venice facing annual hurricane risks? Perhaps the most serious question which must be asked is why anyone would choose to live below sea level next to a high hurricane-risk ocean? The historical reality is New Orleans evolved through inertia more because that's where it began three centuries ago than because that is where it would be built today. The demographics and economic circumstance of New Orleans in recent years has made it into a modern day anachronism. While the Crescent City was quaint and colorful, it's hardly a geographical location toward which people would gravitate today if it didn't already exist. The funding of a new government-built city on the old location of devastated New Orleans can only be viewed as an act of historical restoration underwritten by taxpayers and/or as a response to the perceived compassion of the American people for the plight of the refugees. Certainly it would never occur if dependent upon the marketplace to voluntarily fund it. Sadly, what people would never do with their own wealth, their government is about to do with wealth exacted from them by taxation. Can governments save New Orleans? Of course not! That which has been destroyed can never again be recovered, by a government or anyone else. The question is why consume resources, either public or private, to rebuild anything which will only be destroyed again by the forces of nature and government neglect? While Katrina got all the attention, it was the breeching of the government levees that destroyed New Orleans. Nature's wrath started the holocaust, but it was the failure of government dikes that flooded and destroyed the city. For those who argue the city must be rebuilt a final caution: At what cost, who pays, and what will be forgone from doing so? Already estimates of $300 billion are anticipated just to recover from the damage. That's over $1,000 for every man, woman, and child in America
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/10/05 12:55:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually I quoted the Red Cross's own Web site to that effect. Note that Willytex claimed I had been withholding that information, when in fact I was the first to post it to this forum. Of course you were blaming FEMA for turning the relief supplies back, not Louisiana authorities. Of course I was? Hint: I'd rethink that if I were you. You don't want to embarrass yourself again, do you? Oh, never mind, you're so clueless it doesn't matter. Here's my original post (75011): From the Hurricane Katrina section of the Disaster FAQs on the Red Cross's Web site: Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans? Acess to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders. The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city. The Red Cross could have gotten food and water and medical and other supplies into New Orleans *long* before yesterday, when the first supplies were sent in under the aegis of the National Guard and the feds. Some people have died and many thousands more have endured incredible suffering, in other words, in order to force them to evacuate. The mind boggles. I remember this post in which you quoted Red Cross but also it seems there were a few others late that blamed FEMA for not getting the relief to the dome earlier. Say, I was wrong, Judy. I said 'Of course' you had blamed FEMA for not letting the Red Cross into New Orleans, when you clearly did not. I made a silly assumption without checking and pretended it was a fact. I apologize. Actually you should now add, To make matters worse, I didn't admit I was wrong to start with; instead I pretended I had made a much broader claim about your having blamed FEMA for not getting relief to the dome earlier. That was *really* dumb, because not only was that not what I had accused you of, but FEMA *was* disgracefully slow getting relief to the dome, as just about everybody, including Bush, now admits. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 7:22:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal- Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal- Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Those mean nasty Wal-Mart people that pay minimum wage and aren't union! And therefore have a lot of extra profit they can use to garner good PR in a situation like this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember this post in which you quoted Red Cross but also it seems there were a few others late that blamed FEMA for not getting the relief to the dome earlier. Say, I was wrong, Judy. I said 'Of course' you had blamed FEMA for not letting the Red Cross into New Orleans, when you clearly did not. I made a silly assumption without checking and pretended it was a fact. I apologize. Actually you should now add, To make matters worse, I didn't admit I was wrong to start with; instead I pretended I had made a much broader claim about your having blamed FEMA for not getting relief to the dome earlier. That was *really* dumb, because not only was that not what I had accused you of, but FEMA *was* disgracefully slow getting relief to the dome, as just about everybody, including Bush, now admits. Then you should dress up in the leather bondage outfit and lick the dirt from my boots while singing the Stones' new single, Sweet Neocon. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? Careful, Cliff. Judy's got a whole closet full of leather bondage outfits, with at least one of them in your size. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. snip And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is talking about when he says, We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic...? Sounds crazy to me. Caught my eye too. I suspect it's one of his quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple interpretations. The way I read it, he's saying there's an explanation that makes sense (the logic), but at the same time, in characterizing it as hiding, he's also suggesting that it's an excuse. As in: Some of you are mature enough to take responsibility for the failure without being crushed, and you don't need the excuse; those of you who who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide behind. And the whole tone of the message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in his movement. Or am I missing something? He's being more explicit about the failure than I've seen before, actually, but for whatever reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it. TurquoiseBBenevolent of him, since the failure is his. Correct. Barry didn't have the guts to respond when I asked him this; maybe you will, off_world. MMY is being explicit about the failure. You and Barry are blaming him for it. But which of these two are you blaming him for? 1. He thought it could be done, but he was wrong. 2. It *could* have been done, but he failed to do it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember this post in which you quoted Red Cross but also it seems there were a few others late that blamed FEMA for not getting the relief to the dome earlier. Say, I was wrong, Judy. I said 'Of course' you had blamed FEMA for not letting the Red Cross into New Orleans, when you clearly did not. I made a silly assumption without checking and pretended it was a fact. I apologize. Actually you should now add, To make matters worse, I didn't admit I was wrong to start with; instead I pretended I had made a much broader claim about your having blamed FEMA for not getting relief to the dome earlier. That was *really* dumb, because not only was that not what I had accused you of, but FEMA *was* disgracefully slow getting relief to the dome, as just about everybody, including Bush, now admits. Then you should dress up in the leather bondage outfit and lick the dirt from my boots while singing the Stones' new single, Sweet Neocon. Uh-oh, Barry's ignoring me again. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? Careful, Cliff. Judy's got a whole closet full of leather bondage outfits, with at least one of them in your size. :-) And he's *still* ignoring me... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? She gets real snippy whenever anyone has her cornered. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 7:22:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal- Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal- Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Those mean nasty Wal-Mart people that pay minimum wage and aren't union! And therefore have a lot of extra profit they can use to garner good PR in a situation like this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember this post in which you quoted Red Cross but also it seems there were a few others late that blamed FEMA for not getting the relief to the dome earlier. Say, I was wrong, Judy. I said 'Of course' you had blamed FEMA for not letting the Red Cross into New Orleans, when you clearly did not. I made a silly assumption without checking and pretended it was a fact. I apologize. Actually you should now add, To make matters worse, I didn't admit I was wrong to start with; instead I pretended I had made a much broader claim about your having blamed FEMA for not getting relief to the dome earlier. That was *really* dumb, because not only was that not what I had accused you of, but FEMA *was* disgracefully slow getting relief to the dome, as just about everybody, including Bush, now admits. Then you should dress up in the leather bondage outfit and lick the dirt from my boots while singing the Stones' new single, Sweet Neocon. Uh-oh, Barry's ignoring me again. Why shouldn't he? You don't answer the questions put to you... (that little matter of message #70057...) :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurrican Katrina: The Real Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, medwards520 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following was forwarded from a friend. These are eye witness accounts of what happened in New Orleans. The names have been partially deleted. Peace, Marc Marc, Incredible stories. Thanks for posting. It sounds like local authorities had no concern. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on the luck of the world
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Luck of the World sometimes we feel angry at this co-out of the clueless guru. yes, it is our rotten luck that he still doesnt get it... if he could present his knowledge in a fashion that is understandable to the average joe, all would listen adopt it and transform the world. But as bad luck would have it, he still doesnt get it that his manner of interaction is too weird, too much of a turnoff. g. ** I think you are completely missing the point of what MMY is saying. An ignorant world cannot be transformed quickly into an enlightened world, this would create a backlash against the enlightenment effort; as MMY said in the 60s, speedy enlightenment of the world would create fear and havoc ( see http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#light ) So it is not relevant whether TM-promoting efforts are being done competently or not, because people are so locked into darkness that they cannot be rescued quickly from the path to hell -- it's an act of kindess on the part of the Divine Plan (this is what MMY titled his 60s writing on why enlightenment values need to be expanded slowly) that the TM movement is apparently stumbling along. Maharishi cannot employ competent people to run the TM movement, nor can he give advice that would work, because that would cause the light in the world to increase too rapidly. That is certainly a shame, but that's just the way it's got to be -- if people were not so bound to sin, it would be possible to pitch TM quickly to the world, but that simply cannot happen, and it's pointless for MMY to berate TM administrators for their ineptness, because ineptness happens to be just what the doctor ordered. MMY correctly identifies the luck (bad karma) of the world as being to blame, because if the world were not in such darkness, TM could be promoted quickly. Having a mere shell of a movement in the West run by Bevan and other incompetents is exactly what the world needs at the present time, as lamentable as this situation is, because the underlying problem is the darkness of the world, not the incompetence of TM marketers. Sooner or later, India will respond to MMY's call for a revival of Vedic civilization -- you should note that there have been no price increases for TM in India (even laborers can afford to start TM there), unlike the West, where the price of TM has been raised to slow down things even further. In fact, now that a few candles have been lit in the West, what goes on in the movement in the West has no relevance at all -- it's India that has to restore Vedic culture, and they have the 800 million Hindus to do just that. MMY (Aug 24th press conference): It is just a matter of the total atmosphere which has a great influence on the individual. And the total atmosphere we are aiming at, purifying the total atmosphere. Harmony, positivity in the national consciousness of every country, in the world consciousness. Big groups, big groups. And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? She gets real snippy whenever anyone has her cornered. ROTFL!! Cliff, see if you can find some brains to give to Shemp, too. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry didn't have the guts to respond when I asked him this; maybe you will, off_world. MMY is being explicit about the failure. You and Barry are blaming him for it. But which of these two are you blaming him for? 1. He thought it could be done, but he was wrong. 2. It *could* have been done, but he failed to do it. Barry didn't feel like sparking yet another endless Judyrant, but I can see we're in for it one way or another, so I'll go for it. :-) 3. For failing to pursue his initial belief that it could be done, in the manner in which it just might have been done, by offering a simple, easily-learned form of meditation to as many people as possible at reasonable prices. 4. For being more concerned about servicing his own myth and fostering a religion that would worship him after his death than he was about servicing the needs of humanity. 5. For being so afraid of the common people that he felt the need to hide from them in ever-more- expensive and ever-more Fantasy Island ashrams, and for being so out of touch with them and so little concerned for their welfare that he feel entitled to issue fatwas on whole countries for not obeying his whims. Do you want me to go on? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember this post in which you quoted Red Cross but also it seems there were a few others late that blamed FEMA for not getting the relief to the dome earlier. Say, I was wrong, Judy. I said 'Of course' you had blamed FEMA for not letting the Red Cross into New Orleans, when you clearly did not. I made a silly assumption without checking and pretended it was a fact. I apologize. Actually you should now add, To make matters worse, I didn't admit I was wrong to start with; instead I pretended I had made a much broader claim about your having blamed FEMA for not getting relief to the dome earlier. That was *really* dumb, because not only was that not what I had accused you of, but FEMA *was* disgracefully slow getting relief to the dome, as just about everybody, including Bush, now admits. Then you should dress up in the leather bondage outfit and lick the dirt from my boots while singing the Stones' new single, Sweet Neocon. Uh-oh, Barry's ignoring me again. Why shouldn't he? Oh, he's more than welcome to. See how rigorously he's been keeping his promise? You don't answer the questions put to you... (that little matter of message #70057...) We've been over that a few times now, Shemp. As you know, I'll be happy to answer it as soon as you tell me how the question was relevant to the post of mine you were responding to. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't answer the questions put to you... (that little matter of message #70057...) We've been over that a few times now, Shemp. As you know, I'll be happy to answer it as soon as you tell me how the question was relevant to the post of mine you were responding to. But don't forget to wear the leather bondage outfit when you reply...otherwise it doesn't count! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry didn't have the guts to respond when I asked him this; maybe you will, off_world. MMY is being explicit about the failure. You and Barry are blaming him for it. But which of these two are you blaming him for? 1. He thought it could be done, but he was wrong. 2. It *could* have been done, but he failed to do it. Barry didn't feel like sparking yet another endless Judyrant, but I can see we're in for it one way or another, so I'll go for it. :-) Actually you could have continued to ignore me, just as you had promised. After all, this time I was asking off_world, not you. 3. For failing to pursue his initial belief that it could be done, in the manner in which it just might have been done, by offering a simple, easily-learned form of meditation to as many people as possible at reasonable prices. That's my #2, actually. It's an important issue. It's good to have you on the record as having taken this position, that it might have been done with the means MMY had to hand. Anybody else want to vote on this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't answer the questions put to you... (that little matter of message #70057...) We've been over that a few times now, Shemp. As you know, I'll be happy to answer it as soon as you tell me how the question was relevant to the post of mine you were responding to. But don't forget to wear the leather bondage outfit when you reply...otherwise it doesn't count! And Barry's ignoring me some more. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on the luck of the world
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Luck of the World sometimes we feel angry at this co-out of the clueless guru. yes, it is our rotten luck that he still doesnt get it... if he could present his knowledge in a fashion that is understandable to the average joe, all would listen adopt it and transform the world. But as bad luck would have it, he still doesnt get it that his manner of interaction is too weird, too much of a turnoff. g. ** I think you are completely missing the point of what MMY is saying. An ignorant world cannot be transformed quickly into an enlightened world, this would create a backlash against the enlightenment effort; as MMY said in the 60s, speedy enlightenment of the world would create fear and havoc ( see http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#light ) So it is not relevant whether TM-promoting efforts are being done competently or not, because people are so locked into darkness that they cannot be rescued quickly from the path to hell -- it's an act of kindess on the part of the Divine Plan (this is what MMY titled his 60s writing on why enlightenment values need to be expanded slowly) that the TM movement is apparently stumbling along. Maharishi cannot employ competent people to run the TM movement, nor can he give advice that would work, because that would cause the light in the world to increase too rapidly. That is certainly a shame, but that's just the way it's got to be -- if people were not so bound to sin, it would be possible to pitch TM quickly to the world, but that simply cannot happen, and it's pointless for MMY to berate TM administrators for their ineptness, because ineptness happens to be just what the doctor ordered. MMY correctly identifies the luck (bad karma) of the world as being to blame, because if the world were not in such darkness, TM could be promoted quickly. Having a mere shell of a movement in the West run by Bevan and other incompetents is exactly what the world needs at the present time, as lamentable as this situation is, because the underlying problem is the darkness of the world, not the incompetence of TM marketers. Sooner or later, India will respond to MMY's call for a revival of Vedic civilization -- you should note that there have been no price increases for TM in India (even laborers can afford to start TM there), unlike the West, where the price of TM has been raised to slow down things even further. In fact, now that a few candles have been lit in the West, what goes on in the movement in the West has no relevance at all -- it's India that has to restore Vedic culture, and they have the 800 million Hindus to do just that. MMY (Aug 24th press conference): It is just a matter of the total atmosphere which has a great influence on the individual. And the total atmosphere we are aiming at, purifying the total atmosphere. Harmony, positivity in the national consciousness of every country, in the world consciousness. Big groups, big groups. And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante Bob, That is the subtlest rationalization of unethical practices that I have ever read. If the light can't be brought up too quickly, then teaching TM and letting the 'pot' simmer 'a.k.a the World Plan' would create far less backlash and possibly more income for promoting TM in India. We wouldn't need to be hiding behind the 'luck of the world'. Remember it's Spirtual Regeneration not There's a Sucker Born JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember this post in which you quoted Red Cross but also it seems there were a few others late that blamed FEMA for not getting the relief to the dome earlier. Say, I was wrong, Judy. I said 'Of course' you had blamed FEMA for not letting the Red Cross into New Orleans, when you clearly did not. I made a silly assumption without checking and pretended it was a fact. I apologize. Actually you should now add, To make matters worse, I didn't admit I was wrong to start with; instead I pretended I had made a much broader claim about your having blamed FEMA for not getting relief to the dome earlier. That was *really* dumb, because not only was that not what I had accused you of, but FEMA *was* disgracefully slow getting relief to the dome, as just about everybody, including Bush, now admits. Then you should dress up in the leather bondage outfit and lick the dirt from my boots while singing the Stones' new single, Sweet Neocon. Uh-oh, Barry's ignoring me again. Why shouldn't he? Oh, he's more than welcome to. See how rigorously he's been keeping his promise? You don't answer the questions put to you... (that little matter of message #70057...) We've been over that a few times now, Shemp. As you know, I'll be happy to answer it as soon as you tell me how the question was relevant to the post of mine you were responding to. Consider it a stand-alone question that has nothing to do with any previous post. Now, will you answer the question? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 7:22:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal- Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal-Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Those mean nasty Wal-Mart people that pay minimum wage and aren't union! And therefore have a lot of extra profit they can use to garner good PR in a situation like this. Is it undeserved? I'd say it's a draw, actually. They're taking some of the profits they made by screwing low- income folks and using it to benefit other low- income folks. Sorta like stealing a dollar from a blind man's cup and depositing a nickel of it in the cup of another blind man down the street. I mean, they could have just pocketed the whole amount, right? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? She gets real snippy whenever anyone has her cornered. ROTFL!! Cliff, see if you can find some brains to give to Shemp, too. Why? Me not toopid... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry didn't have the guts to respond when I asked him this; maybe you will, off_world. MMY is being explicit about the failure. You and Barry are blaming him for it. But which of these two are you blaming him for? 1. He thought it could be done, but he was wrong. 2. It *could* have been done, but he failed to do it. Barry didn't feel like sparking yet another endless Judyrant, but I can see we're in for it one way or another, so I'll go for it. :-) Actually you could have continued to ignore me, just as you had promised. You mean the way you had once promised to never come back to amt...and yet you did? After all, this time I was asking off_world, not you. 3. For failing to pursue his initial belief that it could be done, in the manner in which it just might have been done, by offering a simple, easily-learned form of meditation to as many people as possible at reasonable prices. That's my #2, actually. It's an important issue. It's good to have you on the record as having taken this position, that it might have been done with the means MMY had to hand. Anybody else want to vote on this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'All Television Networks/Will Carry Live Concert, Tonight 8:00pm EDT'
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must not be into Sci-Fi Fridays. :) Battlestar Gallactica (of all things) is one of the best shows on TV these days. One of the few things I miss about American TV is the SciFi Channel. They put together some remark- able productions. I saw the three pilot episodes of the new Battlestar Galactica the last time I was in the US. Looked great. The first season is available on DVD. It is the UK version which I guess means it wasn't watered down for sensitive American Sci-Fi viewers. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on the luck of the world
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Luck of the World sometimes we feel angry at this co-out of the clueless guru. yes, it is our rotten luck that he still doesnt get it... if he could present his knowledge in a fashion that is understandable to the average joe, all would listen adopt it and transform the world. But as bad luck would have it, he still doesnt get it that his manner of interaction is too weird, too much of a turnoff. g. ** I think you are completely missing the point of what MMY is saying. An ignorant world cannot be transformed quickly into an enlightened world, this would create a backlash against the enlightenment effort; as MMY said in the 60s, speedy enlightenment of the world would create fear and havoc ( see http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#light ) So it is not relevant whether TM-promoting efforts are being done competently or not, because people are so locked into darkness that they cannot be rescued quickly from the path to hell -- it's an act of kindess on the part of the Divine Plan (this is what MMY titled his 60s writing on why enlightenment values need to be expanded slowly) that the TM movement is apparently stumbling along. Maharishi cannot employ competent people to run the TM movement, nor can he give advice that would work, because that would cause the light in the world to increase too rapidly. That is certainly a shame, but that's just the way it's got to be -- if people were not so bound to sin, it would be possible to pitch TM quickly to the world, but that simply cannot happen, and it's pointless for MMY to berate TM administrators for their ineptness, because ineptness happens to be just what the doctor ordered. MMY correctly identifies the luck (bad karma) of the world as being to blame, because if the world were not in such darkness, TM could be promoted quickly. Having a mere shell of a movement in the West run by Bevan and other incompetents is exactly what the world needs at the present time, as lamentable as this situation is, because the underlying problem is the darkness of the world, not the incompetence of TM marketers. Sooner or later, India will respond to MMY's call for a revival of Vedic civilization -- you should note that there have been no price increases for TM in India (even laborers can afford to start TM there), unlike the West, where the price of TM has been raised to slow down things even further. In fact, now that a few candles have been lit in the West, what goes on in the movement in the West has no relevance at all -- it's India that has to restore Vedic culture, and they have the 800 million Hindus to do just that. MMY (Aug 24th press conference): It is just a matter of the total atmosphere which has a great influence on the individual. And the total atmosphere we are aiming at, purifying the total atmosphere. Harmony, positivity in the national consciousness of every country, in the world consciousness. Big groups, big groups. And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante Bob, That is the subtlest rationalization of unethical practices that I have ever read. I think the rationalization step comes somewhere in- between guilt and acceptance. The 7 steps of cult deprogramming: Fear Doubt Anger Rationalization Guilt Acknowledgement Acceptance If the light can't be brought up too quickly, then teaching TM and letting the 'pot' simmer 'a.k.a the World Plan' would create far less backlash and possibly more income for promoting TM in India. We wouldn't need to be hiding behind the 'luck of the world'. Remember it's Spirtual Regeneration not There's a Sucker Born JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/05 7:22:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal- Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal-Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Those mean nasty Wal-Mart people that pay minimum wage and aren't union! And therefore have a lot of extra profit they can use to garner good PR in a situation like this. Is it undeserved? I'd say it's a draw, actually. They're taking some of the profits they made by screwing low- income folks How do they screw low-income folks...by providing goods and services at prices much lower than the next retailer? and using it to benefit other low- income folks. Sorta like stealing a dollar from a blind man's cup and depositing a nickel of it in the cup of another blind man down the street. I mean, they could have just pocketed the whole amount, right? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You don't answer the questions put to you... (that little matter of message #70057...) We've been over that a few times now, Shemp. As you know, I'll be happy to answer it as soon as you tell me how the question was relevant to the post of mine you were responding to. Consider it a stand-alone question that has nothing to do with any previous post. Now, will you answer the question? Oh, come on, Shemp, give it the old college try. Here's the post you were responding to (which is referring to a satirical TMO press release Barry crafted, which you said you had taken seriously until halfway through it): -- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We say this over and over again on this newsgroup, but it speaks volumns about the present state of the TMO when outrageous satire of the TMO is initially perceived as rational movement discourse! Does it speak volumes about the present state of the TMO, or about how people on this forum tend to perceive the TMO? I knew this was satire after reading the title. --- Now, what could have been the connection with the question you went on to ask? Just take a stab at it. Be brave! To help you out, here are the first four paragraphs that you said you read without realizing it was satire: MAHARISHI'S MESSAGE TO THE WORLD PRESS - SEPTEMBER 1, 2005 Katrina 'Devastation' Seen as Golden Opportunity for World Peace and Windfall for Builders Invited to Participate in Global Reconstruction Program As previously announced, the World Government's Global Reconstruction Program will raise the world's population from problem-ridden life to problem-free life—life in accord with Total Natural Law -- life in enlightenment, perfect health, affluence, invincibility, and peace. However, many cynics and problem-ridden people, attached to their cultures and traditions and to the non-Vastu- friendly buildings in their countries, did not immediately see the wisdom of tearing the whole lot of them down and starting over with Vastu-correct buildings constructed by TM front companies. Enter Nature. Hurricane Katrina should be viewed as the response of the realm of Natural Law to the failure of the world to immediately tear down all the old buildings and reconstruct the world in accord with Natural Law and to do it -- as we demanded in our initial Press Releases -- simultaneously and quickly. Time and tide wait for no one, Maharishi said at that time. The world didn't listen. So the realm of Total Natural Law responded by 'devastating' the first of many non-Vastu cities. Just look at the word 'devastate.' Could the meaning be any clearer? The city of New Orleans was not Vastu-compliant; therefore it was de-Vastu-ated, to clear the way for a *proper* Vastu city to be built on its ruins. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Barry didn't feel like sparking yet another endless Judyrant, but I can see we're in for it one way or another, so I'll go for it. :-) Actually you could have continued to ignore me, just as you had promised. You mean the way you had once promised to never come back to amt...and yet you did? As you know, I did not promise never to come back to alt.m.t. Barry, in contrast, has vowed to ignore me dozens of times now, both on alt.m.t and on this forum. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] [MDixon wrote:] snip Those mean nasty Wal-Mart people that pay minimum wage and aren't union! And therefore have a lot of extra profit they can use to garner good PR in a situation like this. Is it undeserved? I'd say it's a draw, actually. They're taking some of the profits they made by screwing low- income folks How do they screw low-income folks...by providing goods and services at prices much lower than the next retailer? Oh, lots of ways, but the context here was their low wages. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You don't answer the questions put to you... (that little matter of message #70057...) We've been over that a few times now, Shemp. As you know, I'll be happy to answer it as soon as you tell me how the question was relevant to the post of mine you were responding to. Consider it a stand-alone question that has nothing to do with any previous post. Now, will you answer the question? Oh, come on, Shemp, give it the old college try. Here's the post you were responding to (which is referring to a satirical TMO press release Barry crafted, which you said you had taken seriously until halfway through it): -- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We say this over and over again on this newsgroup, but it speaks volumns about the present state of the TMO when outrageous satire of the TMO is initially perceived as rational movement discourse! Does it speak volumes about the present state of the TMO, or about how people on this forum tend to perceive the TMO? I knew this was satire after reading the title. The question I posted for you to answer were relevant to your above comments, Judy, because Tantra's satire was very, very close to the reality that the TMO had become. But you seem to NOT feel that way because you were, unlike me, able to recognize it as satire as soon as you read the title. So I countered by asking you the question that I did because I wanted to see if you would have started TM when you did had the absurd reality of present-day TMO been prevalent then... --- Now, what could have been the connection with the question you went on to ask? Just take a stab at it. Be brave! To help you out, here are the first four paragraphs that you said you read without realizing it was satire: MAHARISHI'S MESSAGE TO THE WORLD PRESS - SEPTEMBER 1, 2005 Katrina 'Devastation' Seen as Golden Opportunity for World Peace and Windfall for Builders Invited to Participate in Global Reconstruction Program As previously announced, the World Government's Global Reconstruction Program will raise the world's population from problem-ridden life to problem-free life—life in accord with Total Natural Law -- life in enlightenment, perfect health, affluence, invincibility, and peace. However, many cynics and problem-ridden people, attached to their cultures and traditions and to the non-Vastu- friendly buildings in their countries, did not immediately see the wisdom of tearing the whole lot of them down and starting over with Vastu-correct buildings constructed by TM front companies. Enter Nature. Hurricane Katrina should be viewed as the response of the realm of Natural Law to the failure of the world to immediately tear down all the old buildings and reconstruct the world in accord with Natural Law and to do it -- as we demanded in our initial Press Releases -- simultaneously and quickly. Time and tide wait for no one, Maharishi said at that time. The world didn't listen. So the realm of Total Natural Law responded by 'devastating' the first of many non-Vastu cities. Just look at the word 'devastate.' Could the meaning be any clearer? The city of New Orleans was not Vastu-compliant; therefore it was de-Vastu-ated, to clear the way for a *proper* Vastu city to be built on its ruins. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Barry didn't feel like sparking yet another endless Judyrant, but I can see we're in for it one way or another, so I'll go for it. :-) Actually you could have continued to ignore me, just as you had promised. You mean the way you had once promised to never come back to amt...and yet you did? As you know, I did not promise never to come back to alt.m.t. Barry, in contrast, has vowed to ignore me dozens of times now, both on alt.m.t and on this forum. Well, I guess that makes him a bad person. Why then stoop to his level? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Bush's Blame Game/'Don't Blame Me- I Just Work Here'
God forbid, Mr.Bush would take responsibility for anything. That might show he has a conscious. And that he relates to suffering. And that he truly cares. Or none of the above? Who knows, how he can not see, how; His inaction, and misguided action; Is responsible for the death and suffering; Of tens of thousands, here and Iraq. Robert Gimbel Seattle,WA. USA Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
You sweet thing, you... Your gentleness and compassion are truly remarkable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
Really? Gosh, hadn't noticed.. :-) Thought maybe that was her way of saying, No, I don't have any employees and never have had, so I really have no clue about running a business, and therefore my opinions on related matters aren't worth very much. But then I'm just guessing... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? She gets real snippy whenever anyone has her cornered. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? Careful, Cliff. Judy's got a whole closet full of leather bondage outfits, with at least one of them in your size. :-) And what were you doing in Judy's closet? Well at least you eventually came out. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Contract
Damn... and here I thought Telecom contracts were one-sided. Mine from La Antilla was quite a bit simpler, but had the same thrust. This one is just plain sad and a bit depressing to read. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingegard sent me this and I scanned it. I havenĂ¢Â€Â™t had a chance to spell check it. This is the agreement she signed when she became a TM teacher. Agreement for Associates of Maharishi Vedic University between Stichting Maharishi Foundation International - Maharishi Vedic University P, O. Box 272, NL 6300 AG Valkenburg aan de GeuI, The Netherlands, in the following referred to as MVU, and Family name: First and middle names: Postal code: .._._._l's?..S... Town:..._ Country: .../lS2.!5..~/.^Ă‚Â£.-..-.- Telephone number in the following called the Associate Preamble As specified in detail below in this Agreementthe Associate will be performing the Activities in the following Aspects) of Maharishj's Vedic Science [ tick the relevant Aspect(s), and strike out those that are not relevant by drawing a horizontal line tttrough each, as shown in this example: 5- 4. Maharisht-Yojur Vac's ]: Oa 1. Transcendental Meditation 13 4. Maharishi Yajur Veda r'7. Maharishi DhanurVeda SFlO. Maharishi Kalpa E 13. Maharishi Chhanda 09 16. Maharishi Vaisheshika IB'13, Maharishi Karma Mimamsa S'22. Maharishi Smritf 13 25. Maharishi Brahmana EET28. Maharishi Prafehakhya t23l. Maharisht Supreme Political Science Ă‚Â£3 33, Maharishi Vedic Management B 35. Maharishi Vedic Approach to Health GT37. Maharishi Vedic Vibration Technology a.ManarishiRikVeda 5. Maharishi Atharva Veda 8. Maharishi Gandharva Veda 11. Maharishi Vyakarana 14. Maharishi Jyotish 17. Maharishi Sankhya '20. Maharishi Vedanta 23. Maharishi Purana '26. Maharishi Aranyaka 23. Maharishi Yagya 0 3. Maharishi Sama Veda Q- 6. Maharishi Sthapatya Veda 13 9i Maharishi Shiksha IB'12, Maharishi Nirukta B 15. Maharishi Nyaya S 1 SI Maharishi Yoga 03 21. Maharishi Ayur-Veda E3 24. Maharishi Itihasa E27. Maharishi Upanishad B'30. Maharishi Veda Land p 32. Maharishi Heaven on Harth.Devefopment Programme '34. Maharishi Corporate Development Programme ^36. Maharishi University of Management Facufty Development Programme Article 1 - Declaration of Mutual Understanding between the Parties At the time of signing this Agreement the accord that the main purpose of entering trie Agreement, is to ensure .n ail respects, that the owledge, information, and methods which hereafter kne referred to collectively as Maharishi's Vedic Science fconfer Article 2, Subsection 1, Paragraph A), in perpetuĂ‚Âity can be preserved in its complete and undistorted fcrm, and be imparted and practically applied in conformity with soecific or general instructions by MVU and its Affiliates, The Parties consider Maharishi's Vedic Science and its various Aspects to represent a completely unique theoĂ‚Âretical and practical knowledge, which has not been available for mankind in its integrated and holistic form for millennia. They concur that the practical ability of this knowledge to generate the beneficial results for the indiĂ‚Âvidual and the society, that have been confirmed by perĂ‚Âsonal experience and scientific research, exclusively deĂ‚Âpends on the authenticity, integrity, and wholeness of both the knowledge and the procedures for its applicaĂ‚Âtion; and they agree on the paramount importance of r^ ^serving these qualities that have been restored to the Ljwledge in this generation only due. to the extensive work and efforts of MVU and its Affiliates under the guidĂ‚Âance of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. The ParĂ‚Âties acknowledge that MVU and its associated individuals and organizations have invested considerable amounts of time and finances in restoring the knowledge of Maharishi's Vedic Science, and that .this fact contributes to the importance of preserving the authenticity and inĂ‚Âtegrity of the know/edge and the teaching procedures. The Associate and MVU further agree that the general laws of society as of to-day do not offer sufficient specific protection for the theory and practical application of Maharishi's Vedic Science thereby creating a need for this detailed Agreement to supplement the general legisĂ‚Âlation. Subsection 2 MVU greatly appreciates the Associate's decision to take upon himself the responsibility to be a leader in his society by making Maharishi's Vedic Sci- ence available to the population in his area as described in this Agreement. The Associate understands that he will only be accepted to become or to continue being active and/or to train with MVU and its Affiliates, if he agrees tc participate without any reservation in protecting the authenticity of the knowledge of Maharishi's Vedic SciĂ‚Âence in accord with the scheme laid out in the following. He agrees that only graduation from approved training by MVU or
[FairfieldLife] 'Bush's Blame Game/What, Me Worry?
God forbid, Mr.Bush would take responsibility for anything. And That he(Mr.Bush),might have a [Conscience] And that somehowhe canrelate to thesuffering; Or that heeven cares? It's scarey to think, That with all of the death and suffering; Beyond imagination; Of thetens of thousands of souls, here and inIraq. And the beautiful reputation of our United States; Stained forever; Through the lack of and misguided action... Of "The President". Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Here's the post you were responding to (which is referring to a satirical TMO press release Barry crafted, which you said you had taken seriously until halfway through it): -- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We say this over and over again on this newsgroup, but it speaks volumns about the present state of the TMO when outrageous satire of the TMO is initially perceived as rational movement discourse! Does it speak volumes about the present state of the TMO, or about how people on this forum tend to perceive the TMO? I knew this was satire after reading the title. The question I posted for you to answer were relevant to your above comments, Judy, because Tantra's satire was very, very close to the reality that the TMO had become. But you seem to NOT feel that way because you were, unlike me, able to recognize it as satire as soon as you read the title. So I countered by asking you the question that I did because I wanted to see if you would have started TM when you did had the absurd reality of present-day TMO been prevalent then... Now, that wasn't so hard, was it? The answer is, of course, almost certainly not. I can think of only one circumstance under which I might have: If I had had a good friend who had been practicing TM and was familiar with the organization, who had explained to me that I could ignore all the crazy stuff and just learn and practice the technique. As it was, I didn't know anybody who practiced TM when I started, so all I knew about it was its public face. If it had been charging the same prices then as it does now (even adjusted for inflation), that would probably have discouraged me as well. (I paid $125 to learn in 1975.) But Shemp, you knew this is how I would answer when you asked the question, which is one reason I didn't bother to answer. As I said earlier, it was a rhetorical question, not a request for information. Not only that, your rhetorical question didn't make the point you explain above that you intended--and you even supply the reason why it didn't: You note that Barry's satire wasn't close enough to the reality, as far as I was concerned, to make me uncertain as to whether it was serious. In fact, you prove *my* point, which was that the inability to recognize Barry's piece as satire had more to do with one's perception of the organization than with the reality of the organization. As nutty as the TMO now is, even so nutty that it would have dissuaded me from starting TM, it's nowhere near *as* nutty as Barry's piece suggested. One would have to have a really unrealistic view of the TMO to be taken in by it. I don't think even *Barry* expected that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Barry didn't feel like sparking yet another endless Judyrant, but I can see we're in for it one way or another, so I'll go for it. :-) Actually you could have continued to ignore me, just as you had promised. You mean the way you had once promised to never come back to amt...and yet you did? As you know, I did not promise never to come back to alt.m.t. Barry, in contrast, has vowed to ignore me dozens of times now, both on alt.m.t and on this forum. Well, I guess that makes him a bad person. Why then stoop to his level? Beg pardon? I never vowed to ignore Barry. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? Gosh, hadn't noticed.. :-) Thought maybe that was her way of saying, No, I don't have any employees and never have had, so I really have no clue about running a business, and therefore my opinions on related matters aren't worth very much. (Actually I do have a clue about running a business, just not one with employees.) You appear to be suggesting that only those who have run a business with employees are in a position to have an opinion on Wal-Mart's business practices. I think I'll stand by my original response: Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any employees, Judy? If so, what do you pay them? if not, why don't you do more for your community by starting a business and employing people? Do you have any *brains*? If not, why don't you see if you can locate some and have them installed? Careful, Cliff. Judy's got a whole closet full of leather bondage outfits, with at least one of them in your size. :-) And what were you doing in Judy's closet? Well at least you eventually came out. :) LOL! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on the luck of the world
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Luck of the World sometimes we feel angry at this co-out of the clueless guru. yes, it is our rotten luck that he still doesnt get it... if he could present his knowledge in a fashion that is understandable to the average joe, all would listen adopt it and transform the world. But as bad luck would have it, he still doesnt get it that his manner of interaction is too weird, too much of a turnoff. g. ** I think you are completely missing the point of what MMY is saying. An ignorant world cannot be transformed quickly into an enlightened Bob, That is the subtlest rationalization of unethical practices that I have ever read. --big snip I think the rationalization step comes somewhere in- between guilt and acceptance. The 7 steps of cult deprogramming: Fear Doubt Anger Rationalization Guilt Acknowledgement Acceptance If the light can't be brought up too quickly, then teaching TM and letting the 'pot' simmer 'a.k.a the World Plan' would create far less backlash and possibly more income for promoting TM in India. We wouldn't need to be hiding behind the 'luck of the world'. Remember it's Spirtual Regeneration not There's a Sucker Born JohnY Nice Shemp, Hadn't thought of it that way. I'd like to see 8. Rebirth - as far as the TM Technique is concerned. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
In a message dated 9/10/05 3:03:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd say it's a draw, actually..Sorta like stealing a dollar from a blind man'scup and depositing a nickel of it in the cup ofanother blind man down the street. That's a draw? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
In a message dated 9/10/05 3:20:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd say it's a draw, actually. They're taking some of the profits they made by screwing low- income folks How do they "screw low-income folks"...by providing goods and services at prices much lower than the next retailer?Oh, lots of ways, but the context here was theirlow wages. Are Wal-Mart wages that much lower than other wages of jobs with the same description? Are Wal-Mart wages any different than say Target or K-Mart or even most mom and pop retail businesses? Serious question, I don't know. It's hard to imagine there would be much difference. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Convention Center story
The following message is from Lisa Moore, an African-American former UT graduate student. She is writing about what her aunt, Denise, who was there, told her. the buses came and took them to the Ernest Morial Convention Center. (yes, the convention center you've all seen on TV.) Denise said she thought she was in hell. they were there for 2 days, with no water, no food. no shelter. Denise, her mother (63 years old), her niece (21 years old), and 2-year-old grandniece. when they arrived, there were already thousands of people there. they were told that buses were coming. police drove by, windows rolled up, thumbs up signs. national guard trucks rolled by, completely empty, soldiers with guns cocked and aimed at them. nobody stopped to drop off water. a helicopter dropped a load of water, but all the bottles exploded on impact due to the height of the helicopter. the first day (Wednesday) 4 people died next to her. the second day (Thursday) 6 people died next to her. Denise told me the people around her all thought they had been sent there to die. again, nobody stopped. the only buses that came were full; they dropped off more and more people, but nobody was being picked up and taken away. they found out that those being dropped off had been rescued from rooftops and attics; they got off the buses delirious from lack of water and food. completely dehydrated. the crowd tried to keep them all in one area; Denise said the new arrivals had mostly lost their minds. they had gone crazy. inside the convention center, the place was one huge bathroom. in order to shit, you had to stand in other people's shit. the floors were black and slick with shit. most people stayed outside because the smell was so bad. but outside wasn't much better: between the heat, the humidity, the lack of water, the old and very young dying from dehydration... and there was no place to lay down, not even room on the sidewalk. they slept outside Wednesday night, under an overpass. Denise said yes, there were young men with guns there. but they organized the crowd. they went to Canal Street and looted, and brought back food and water for the old people and the babies, because nobody had eaten in days. when the police rolled down windows and yelled out the buses are coming, the young men with guns organized the crowd in order: old people in front, women and children next, men in the back. just so that when the buses came, there would be priorities of who got out first. Denise said the fights she saw between the young men with guns were fist fights. she saw them put their guns down and fight rather than shoot up the crowd. but she said that there were a handful of people shot in the convention center; their bodies were left inside, along with other dead babies and old people. Denise said the people thought there were being sent there to die. lots of people being dropped off, nobody being picked up. cops passing by, speeding off. national guard rolling by with guns aimed at them. and yes, a few men shot at the police, because at a certain point all the people thought the cops were coming to hurt them, to kill them all. she saw a young man who had stolen a car speed past, cops in pursuit; he crashed the car, got out and ran, and the cops shot him in the back. in front of the whole crowd. she saw many groups of people decide that they were going to walk across the bridge to the west bank, and those same groups would return, saying that they were met at the top of the bridge by armed police ordering them to turn around, that they weren't allowed to leave. so they all believed they were sent there to die. Denise's niece found a pay phone, and kept trying to call her mother's boyfriend in Baton Rouge, and finally got through and told him where they were. the boyfriend, and Denise's brother, drove down from Baton Rouge and came and got them. they had to bribe a few cops, and talk a few into letting them into the city (come on, man, my 2-year-old niece is at the Convention Center!), then they took back roads to get to them. after arriving at my other cousin's apartment in Baton Rouge, they saw the images on TV, and couldn't believe how the media was portraying the people of New Orleans. she kept repeating to me on the phone last night: make sure you tell everybody that they left us there to die. nobody came. those young men with guns were protecting us. if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have had the little water and food they had found. that's Denise Moore's story. Lisa C. Moore Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that's living! Thanks for posting this!! I like the expression of the intellect turning inside out. Beautiful! Yes, and I particularly enjoyed the vivid understanding that all the states of consciousness are a lie and only wholeness ever was, is, or shall be :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why bail out people who insist on living in dangerous areas?
Because much of that land is probably owned by Republican property owners who will lose their shirts and whine like babies if they are told they can't rebuild there. shempmcgurk wrote: Why? by Robert Anderson Shortly after Jean Baptiste Lemoyne founded New Orleans in 1718, a priest-chronicler named Charlevoix described it as a place of a hundred wretched hovels in a malarious wet thicket of willows and dwarf palmettos, infested by serpents and alligators. From its origins in a hollow at the angle of a deep three-sided bend in the Mississippi River, New Orleans slowly spread out for miles on a narrow alluvial strip between the River and Lake Pontchartrain. Today most of New Orleans lies either below sea level or at least below the level of the River and Lake. Only the levees, most of which were constructed beginning in the early part of the twentieth century, have kept the city dry. Until Katrina! Mother Nature has a unique, and sometimes deadly, way of reminding us of the penalty for defying her will. New Orleans, geographically, can best be described as an historical mistake. It would be unthinkable to construct a city in such a location now. Even if private developers wanted to do it, the political environmental lobby existing in America today would never tolerate such a violation or exploitation of the Mississippi River's wetlands. For decades governments have restricted or outright forbidden any sort of habitable development of America's wetlands. America's wetlands have become sacred ground to be preserved in perpetuity by the force of government edicts. So what's going on in the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans? Governments are about to spend billions of taxpayer dollars to reconstruct a city in a geographical depression below sea level next to an ocean subject to hurricanes. To describe the land area of New Orleans as merely wetlands is the ultimate understatement. Much of the city would be part of the ocean but for the levees! In fact, the whole of Louisiana from the existing site of New Orleans south is slowly returning to the sea. Virtually everyone knows the entire area is a high-risk area to both hurricanes and continual flooding from the Mississippi River. If nothing habitable existed there today, nothing ever would under existing governmental edicts protecting wetlands. So, why is government about to expend tens of billions of dollars to do something which they would forbid any private developers to even consider doing now? Nobody is asking that question, let alone answering it. Even to ask the question subjects one to criticism for not being compassionate toward the refugees evacuated from the cesspool which once was New Orleans. Guilt is imposed upon anyone who would selfishly suggest it's an insane idea to rebuild another city in an ocean. And yet it is! Why build a government-funded city where it can only survive until another failed levee again returns it to the sea? Why build a government-funded city below sea level when dry land exists all over America not exposed to flooding or hurricanes? And finally, why should Americans be taxed billions of dollars to build an American Venice facing annual hurricane risks? Perhaps the most serious question which must be asked is why anyone would choose to live below sea level next to a high hurricane-risk ocean? The historical reality is New Orleans evolved through inertia more because that's where it began three centuries ago than because that is where it would be built today. The demographics and economic circumstance of New Orleans in recent years has made it into a modern day anachronism. While the Crescent City was quaint and colorful, it's hardly a geographical location toward which people would gravitate today if it didn't already exist. The funding of a new government-built city on the old location of devastated New Orleans can only be viewed as an act of historical restoration underwritten by taxpayers and/or as a response to the perceived compassion of the American people for the plight of the refugees. Certainly it would never occur if dependent upon the marketplace to voluntarily fund it. Sadly, what people would never do with their own wealth, their government is about to do with wealth exacted from them by taxation. Can governments save New Orleans? Of course not! That which has been destroyed can never again be recovered, by a government or anyone else. The question is why consume resources, either public or private, to rebuild anything which will only be destroyed again by the forces of nature and government neglect? While Katrina got all the attention, it was the breeching of the government levees that destroyed New Orleans. Nature's wrath started the holocaust, but it was the failure of government dikes that flooded and destroyed the city. For those who argue the city must be rebuilt a final caution: At what cost, who pays,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Convention Center story
In a message dated 9/10/05 5:42:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Denise said she thought she was in hell. they were there for 2 days, with nowater, no food. no shelter. Denise, her mother (63 years old), her niece (21years old), and 2-year-old grandniece. when they arrived, there were alreadythousands of people there. they were told that buses were coming. policedrove by, windows rolled up, thumbs up signs. national guard trucks rolledby, completely empty, soldiers with guns cocked and aimed at them. nobodystopped to drop off water. a helicopter dropped a load of water, but all thebottles exploded on impact due to the height of the helicopter. This would have been Louisiana National Guard that drove by and failed to render aid and dropped water form ridicules heights, right? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why bail out people who insist on living in dangerous are...
In a message dated 9/10/05 6:12:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because much of that land is probably owned by Republican property owners who will lose their shirts and whine like babies if they are told they can't rebuild there. Probably more democrats since New Orleans and Louisiana have a rich heritage of political corruptness and is one of the few Democratic strong holds in the South. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
It's Vedic Math. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/10/05 3:03:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd say it's a draw, actually. . Sorta like stealing a dollar from a blind man's cup and depositing a nickel of it in the cup of another blind man down the street. That's a draw? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
Of course there's not. Large economies end up averaging out - competition forces them to. But an idealogue never lets facts cloud an issue. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/10/05 3:20:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd say it's a draw, actually. They're taking some of the profits they made by screwing low- income folks How do they screw low-income folks...by providing goods and services at prices much lower than the next retailer? Oh, lots of ways, but the context here was their low wages. Are Wal-Mart wages that much lower than other wages of jobs with the same description? Are Wal-Mart wages any different than say Target or K-Mart or even most mom and pop retail businesses? Serious question, I don't know. It's hard to imagine there would be much difference. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. snip And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is talking about when he says, We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic...? Sounds crazy to me. Caught my eye too. I suspect it's one of his quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple interpretations. The way I read it, he's saying there's an explanation that makes sense (the logic), but at the same time, in characterizing it as hiding, he's also suggesting that it's an excuse. As in: Some of you are mature enough to take responsibility for the failure without being crushed, and you don't need the excuse; those of you who who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide behind. And the whole tone of the message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in his movement. Or am I missing something? He's being more explicit about the failure than I've seen before, actually, but for whatever reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it. TurquoiseBBenevolent of him, since the failure is his. Correct. Barry didn't have the guts to respond when I asked him this; maybe you will, off_world. MMY is being explicit about the failure. You and Barry are blaming him for it. But which of these two are you blaming him for? 1. He thought it could be done, but he was wrong. 2. It *could* have been done, but he failed to do it. Neither: 3. If it could be done, has he done it the right way? Answer: Half of what he did was genius. Half of what he did was .wellstupid. This is the Enigma of Maharishi tha Rick often talks about. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that's living! Thanks for posting this!! I like the expression of the intellect turning inside out. Beautiful! Yes, and I particularly enjoyed the vivid understanding that all the states of consciousness are a lie and only wholeness ever was, is, or shall be :-) Yes, excellent mantra! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
Thank you for answering. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Here's the post you were responding to (which is referring to a satirical TMO press release Barry crafted, which you said you had taken seriously until halfway through it): -- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We say this over and over again on this newsgroup, but it speaks volumns about the present state of the TMO when outrageous satire of the TMO is initially perceived as rational movement discourse! Does it speak volumes about the present state of the TMO, or about how people on this forum tend to perceive the TMO? I knew this was satire after reading the title. The question I posted for you to answer were relevant to your above comments, Judy, because Tantra's satire was very, very close to the reality that the TMO had become. But you seem to NOT feel that way because you were, unlike me, able to recognize it as satire as soon as you read the title. So I countered by asking you the question that I did because I wanted to see if you would have started TM when you did had the absurd reality of present-day TMO been prevalent then... Now, that wasn't so hard, was it? The answer is, of course, almost certainly not. I can think of only one circumstance under which I might have: If I had had a good friend who had been practicing TM and was familiar with the organization, who had explained to me that I could ignore all the crazy stuff and just learn and practice the technique. As it was, I didn't know anybody who practiced TM when I started, so all I knew about it was its public face. If it had been charging the same prices then as it does now (even adjusted for inflation), that would probably have discouraged me as well. (I paid $125 to learn in 1975.) But Shemp, you knew this is how I would answer when you asked the question, which is one reason I didn't bother to answer. As I said earlier, it was a rhetorical question, not a request for information. Not only that, your rhetorical question didn't make the point you explain above that you intended--and you even supply the reason why it didn't: You note that Barry's satire wasn't close enough to the reality, as far as I was concerned, to make me uncertain as to whether it was serious. In fact, you prove *my* point, which was that the inability to recognize Barry's piece as satire had more to do with one's perception of the organization than with the reality of the organization. As nutty as the TMO now is, even so nutty that it would have dissuaded me from starting TM, it's nowhere near *as* nutty as Barry's piece suggested. One would have to have a really unrealistic view of the TMO to be taken in by it. I don't think even *Barry* expected that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Barry didn't feel like sparking yet another endless Judyrant, but I can see we're in for it one way or another, so I'll go for it. :-) Actually you could have continued to ignore me, just as you had promised. You mean the way you had once promised to never come back to amt...and yet you did? As you know, I did not promise never to come back to alt.m.t. Barry, in contrast, has vowed to ignore me dozens of times now, both on alt.m.t and on this forum. Well, I guess that makes him a bad person. Why then stoop to his level? Beg pardon? I never vowed to ignore Barry. That wasn't my question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY is being explicit about the failure. You and Barry are blaming him for it. But which of these two are you blaming him for? 1. He thought it could be done, but he was wrong. 2. It *could* have been done, but he failed to do it. Neither: 3. If it could be done, has he done it the right way? Answer: Half of what he did was genius. Half of what he did was .wellstupid. This is the Enigma of Maharishi tha Rick often talks about. Yeah, but what I'm asking is whether you believe it could have been done if he'd done it 100 percent the right way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, .......uh......jya
Jay told me this experience of his in person, and in detail. I believe it is the experience when he was on heroine, and was literally lying in bed puking all over himself all night, and shitting in his pants, while experiencing what he called 'the ancient watcher'...(ie God/Self). He felt like hell for a long time after. Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but it doesn't sound like awakening to me, even though there is truth to the description. A heroine trip doesn't count. By the wayI never found out how Jay died? Anybody know? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Subject: AEGTC, Switzerland 1976 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Williams) AEGTC, Switzerland 1976 By Jay Latham Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! Jay Latham: Maharishi, these experiences I've had over the past six months have been glimpses of enlightenment for me. I had a tremendous awakening experience before I started TM, but due to the circumstances, I feel a little shy about telling it in the group. I then sent him a thought message that I would relate my experience and not the circumstances. Maharishi paused for a moment to think about what I'd just said. It'll be all right to tell it, he said finally, in a thoughtful sort of way. Maharishi, you've said that for every state of consciousness there is a separate, corresponding state of reality. Waking state has its reality, dream state has its reality, and deep sleep is another reality. Yes. You've taught us that transcendental consciousness is a fourth state of consciousness?a fourth reality that is the underlying reality of all life. Yes. And you've taught that cosmic consciousness is a higher state of reality, because one never loses consciousness of the transcendent even during waking, dreaming and sleeping. Yes. You've also said that God consciousness and unity consciousness are even deeper states of reality; so we have all these states of consciousness and all these states of corresponding realities. Maharishi said yes this time in a somewhat impatient way, as if to convey, Get to the point, where are you going with this? I'd been feeling an almighty power rise up inside of me as I asked Maharishi each one of these questions, because I was consciously setting him up to refute all that he had just said. I knew he knew the truth, but I wanted him to come out with it in a way he had never done before. It was time for us to stop playing around like little children at his feet, and elicit from him the real truth. A great rage suddenly ripped through my chest, burning the lie in my heart. I wanted Maharishi to kill it right then and there, for all time. Maharishi, in the experience of wholeness I had before I started TM, what you've just said that basically reality is different in different states of consciousness, is a total lie! What I experienced one night five years ago, is that there is only one reality, has always been one reality, and will forever be one reality! EVERYTHING ELSE IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE! YES! YES! YES! Maharishi loudly proclaimed. With each YES, his fist came down on the table, Bang, Bang, Bang! Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! I don't want to hear anything but experiences of real wholeness! Continue with your experience. What I discovered in my experience, Maharishi, was that the personality I know as Jay Latharn is a complete, fictitious lie. There is only one Being, God. Everything else, even the 'reality' of God consciousness, is an illusion. It's just like Shankara said. Now this is the real experience of wholeness! Maharishi proclaimed excitedly. What happened is that I had an experience in which I went through all of the states of consciousness. When I hit cosmic consciousness I closed my eyes to meditate and witnessed creation in the flow of soma out of the bindu point between my eyes. Everything shot out of that point, in stereo?whatever came out on the left came out on the right. I saw the mechanics of creation. It was the most amazing sight I ever saw. After that I started having celestial perception with my eyes open. I then briefly explained the major points of my experiencethe jewels I'd seen in the ceiling and how things were constructed of light rays created from God's mind?how I walked and moved through a cosmic plasma that erased the force of gravity, etc. Maharishi was paying close attention to what I was saying, and having his attention on me like this was like having God Almighty bum the lie right out of my heart. The
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why bail out people who insist on living in dangerous are...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/10/05 6:12:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because much of that land is probably owned by Republican property owners who will lose their shirts and whine like babies if they are told they can't rebuild there. Probably more democrats since New Orleans and Louisiana have a rich heritage of political corruptness and is one of the few Democratic strong holds in the South. I have my doubts as usually large property owners vote Republican. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course there's not. Large economies end up averaging out - competition forces them to. But an idealogue never lets facts cloud an issue. I don't have time to cut and paste at the moment, but here are some of the facts on Wal-Mart's wages: http://tinyurl.com/abdlf (By averaging out above, are you referring to what's called the Wal-Martization of wages, i.e., in order to compete with Wal-Mart, other businesses have to cut their workers' pay?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/10/05 3:20:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd say it's a draw, actually. They're taking some of the profits they made by screwing low- income folks How do they screw low-income folks...by providing goods and services at prices much lower than the next retailer? Oh, lots of ways, but the context here was their low wages. Are Wal-Mart wages that much lower than other wages of jobs with the same description? Are Wal-Mart wages any different than say Target or K-Mart or even most mom and pop retail businesses? Serious question, I don't know. It's hard to imagine there would be much difference. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, .......uh......jya
What specifically doesn't sound like enlightenment to you. I'm curious. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay told me this experience of his in person, and in detail. I believe it is the experience when he was on heroine, and was literally lying in bed puking all over himself all night, and shitting in his pants, while experiencing what he called 'the ancient watcher'...(ie God/Self). He felt like hell for a long time after. Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but it doesn't sound like awakening to me, even though there is truth to the description. A heroine trip doesn't count. By the wayI never found out how Jay died? Anybody know? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Subject: AEGTC, Switzerland 1976 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Williams) AEGTC, Switzerland 1976 By Jay Latham Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! Jay Latham: Maharishi, these experiences I've had over the past six months have been glimpses of enlightenment for me. I had a tremendous awakening experience before I started TM, but due to the circumstances, I feel a little shy about telling it in the group. I then sent him a thought message that I would relate my experience and not the circumstances. Maharishi paused for a moment to think about what I'd just said. It'll be all right to tell it, he said finally, in a thoughtful sort of way. Maharishi, you've said that for every state of consciousness there is a separate, corresponding state of reality. Waking state has its reality, dream state has its reality, and deep sleep is another reality. Yes. You've taught us that transcendental consciousness is a fourth state of consciousness?a fourth reality that is the underlying reality of all life. Yes. And you've taught that cosmic consciousness is a higher state of reality, because one never loses consciousness of the transcendent even during waking, dreaming and sleeping. Yes. You've also said that God consciousness and unity consciousness are even deeper states of reality; so we have all these states of consciousness and all these states of corresponding realities. Maharishi said yes this time in a somewhat impatient way, as if to convey, Get to the point, where are you going with this? I'd been feeling an almighty power rise up inside of me as I asked Maharishi each one of these questions, because I was consciously setting him up to refute all that he had just said. I knew he knew the truth, but I wanted him to come out with it in a way he had never done before. It was time for us to stop playing around like little children at his feet, and elicit from him the real truth. A great rage suddenly ripped through my chest, burning the lie in my heart. I wanted Maharishi to kill it right then and there, for all time. Maharishi, in the experience of wholeness I had before I started TM, what you've just said that basically reality is different in different states of consciousness, is a total lie! What I experienced one night five years ago, is that there is only one reality, has always been one reality, and will forever be one reality! EVERYTHING ELSE IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE! YES! YES! YES! Maharishi loudly proclaimed. With each YES, his fist came down on the table, Bang, Bang, Bang! Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! I don't want to hear anything but experiences of real wholeness! Continue with your experience. What I discovered in my experience, Maharishi, was that the personality I know as Jay Latharn is a complete, fictitious lie. There is only one Being, God. Everything else, even the 'reality' of God consciousness, is an illusion. It's just like Shankara said. Now this is the real experience of wholeness! Maharishi proclaimed excitedly. What happened is that I had an experience in which I went through all of the states of consciousness. When I hit cosmic consciousness I closed my eyes to meditate and witnessed creation in the flow of soma out of the bindu point between my eyes. Everything shot out of that point, in stereo?whatever came out on the left came out on the right. I saw the mechanics of creation. It was the most amazing sight I ever saw. After that I started having celestial perception with my eyes open. I then briefly explained the major points of my experiencethe jewels I'd seen in the ceiling and how things were constructed of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/10/05 3:20:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd say it's a draw, actually. They're taking some of the profits they made by screwing low- income folks How do they screw low-income folks...by providing goods and services at prices much lower than the next retailer? Oh, lots of ways, but the context here was their low wages. Are Wal-Mart wages that much lower than other wages of jobs with the same description? Are Wal-Mart wages any different than say Target or K-Mart or even most mom and pop retail businesses? Serious question, I don't know. It's hard to imagine there would be much difference. I have had an extensive Wal-Mart discussion with Judy on amt. One of our discussions centered around the move to prevent a Wal- Mart from opening in a particular area (was it New York City? I forget). I tried to show Judy that preventing Wal-Marts from opening is equivalent to promoting the subsidy of richer people by poorer people; that is, because Wal-Mart offers goods and services at prices lower than their competitors (competitor establishments owned, for the most part, by rich share holders), preventing poorer people from benefitting from low prices by blocking Wal-Marts from opening in poorer people's areas means that they would have to patronize establishments that offered the same products and services at higher prices, thus increasing revenue of the coffers of the less efficient businesses. Judy is quite ambivalent to the plight of the less fortunate of America and, it turns out, is for the subsidy of richer people by poorer people. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Convention Center story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following message is from Lisa Moore, an African-American former UT graduate student. She is writing about what her aunt, Denise, who was there, told her. the buses came and took them to the Ernest Morial Convention Center. (yes, the convention center you've all seen on TV.) Denise said she thought she was in hell. they were there for 2 days, with no water, no food. no shelter. Denise, her mother (63 years old), her niece (21 years old), and 2-year-old grandniece. when they arrived, there were already thousands of people there. they were told that buses were coming. police drove by, windows rolled up, thumbs up signs. national guard trucks rolled by, completely empty, soldiers with guns cocked and aimed at them. nobody stopped to drop off water. a helicopter dropped a load of water, but all the bottles exploded on impact due to the height of the helicopter. the first day (Wednesday) 4 people died next to her. the second day (Thursday) 6 people died next to her. Denise told me the people around her all thought they had been sent there to die. again, nobody stopped. the only buses that came were full; they dropped off more and more people, but nobody was being picked up and taken away. they found out that those being dropped off had been rescued from rooftops and attics; they got off the buses delirious from lack of water and food. completely dehydrated. the crowd tried to keep them all in one area; Denise said the new arrivals had mostly lost their minds. they had gone crazy. inside the convention center, the place was one huge bathroom. in order to shit, you had to stand in other people's shit. the floors were black and slick with shit. most people stayed outside because the smell was so bad. but outside wasn't much better: between the heat, the humidity, the lack of water, the old and very young dying from dehydration... and there was no place to lay down, not even room on the sidewalk. they slept outside Wednesday night, under an overpass. Denise said yes, there were young men with guns there. but they organized the crowd. they went to Canal Street and looted, and brought back food and water for the old people and the babies, because nobody had eaten in days. when the police rolled down windows and yelled out the buses are coming, the young men with guns organized the crowd in order: old people in front, women and children next, men in the back. just so that when the buses came, there would be priorities of who got out first. Denise said the fights she saw between the young men with guns were fist fights. she saw them put their guns down and fight rather than shoot up the crowd. but she said that there were a handful of people shot in the convention center; their bodies were left inside, along with other dead babies and old people. Denise said the people thought there were being sent there to die. lots of people being dropped off, nobody being picked up. cops passing by, speeding off. national guard rolling by with guns aimed at them. and yes, a few men shot at the police, because at a certain point all the people thought the cops were coming to hurt them, to kill them all. she saw a young man who had stolen a car speed past, cops in pursuit; he crashed the car, got out and ran, and the cops shot him in the back. in front of the whole crowd. she saw many groups of people decide that they were going to walk across the bridge to the west bank, and those same groups would return, saying that they were met at the top of the bridge by armed police ordering them to turn around, that they weren't allowed to leave. so they all believed they were sent there to die. Denise's niece found a pay phone, and kept trying to call her mother's boyfriend in Baton Rouge, and finally got through and told him where they were. the boyfriend, and Denise's brother, drove down from Baton Rouge and came and got them. they had to bribe a few cops, and talk a few into letting them into the city (come on, man, my 2-year-old niece is at the Convention Center!), then they took back roads to get to them. after arriving at my other cousin's apartment in Baton Rouge, they saw the images on TV, and couldn't believe how the media was portraying the people of New Orleans. she kept repeating to me on the phone last night: make sure you tell everybody that they left us there to die. nobody came. those young men with guns were protecting us. if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have had the little water and food they had found. that's Denise Moore's story. Lisa C. Moore Sounds like my trip to India in '81... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY is being explicit about the failure. You and Barry are blaming him for it. But which of these two are you blaming him for? 1. He thought it could be done, but he was wrong. 2. It *could* have been done, but he failed to do it. Neither: 3. If it could be done, has he done it the right way? Answer: Half of what he did was genius. Half of what he did was .wellstupid. This is the Enigma of Maharishi tha Rick often talks about. Yeah, but what I'm asking is whether you believe it could have been done if he'd done it 100 percent the right way. Mount Everest is an unpredictable place. If George Mallory made his climb 100% 'the right way' in 1924, would he have successfully ascended and descended the mountain alive? Mallory probably climbed the best he could, and intelligently, but for other climbers of Everest, wether one makes it or not, is no excuse for doing stupid stuff on the way updue to arrogance perhaps? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
