[FairfieldLife] Re: A fools paradise

2006-11-01 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama vashtirama@ 
wrote:
  
   Weird. Just got a pointlessly nasty private email from 
nablus108.
   
   I mean, weird because it was in private. Now, what entitles me
   to such special treatment when one could do it publicly in this
   forum, where it happens all the time?
  
  Lemme guess what his email was about: Your only recent posts were
  about food, which leads me to believe he tore into you about being
  off-topic. Am I right?
  
  He's dissed people before in public for posting stuff he thinks is
  off-topic, and the only response he ever gets is this reminder 
from
  the FFL description: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Since 
his
  public topic cop routine accomplishes nothing, it could be that 
he's
  trying a new tactic by trying to silence people with ramped up
  nastiness in private email.
 
 
 Hi Alex, maybe you're right. He didn't get specific enough.
 I'm on other lists where the members are expected to alert the
 listowners if they get this kind of thing privately. I didn't do 
that
 here to alert Rick, but that's where I got the idea to make it 
public.
 The really nice private responses I got are worth it so I have to 
say
 I recommend doing it.


This is a lie and you know it. Do you dare sharing the post I wrote 
with others, here on this board, now ? Probably not because you would 
be exposed as a fool. 
It was accidently sent to your mailbox because yahoo did not alert me 
to the fact that I was not longer a member even though signing in was 
done normally. This again had something to do with mail bouncing, and 
whatnot.
It is true however that I find FFL less relevant after it became 
flooded with the alt.med people. Consequently I, and many others it 
seems, spend less time reading posts.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much 
 sports in this country.  That's because it diverts attention 
 from the rich who are destroying the middle class.  Maybe we 
 should have a football game with the middle class against the 
 rich to see who wins.  :)

The rich would win every time, as long as there
are referees. Every referee can be bribed, and
pretty much every rich person would think of 
bribing them, whereas most middle class would
neither think of it or have the resources to
do it effectively.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles in Rishikesh

2006-11-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mira Nair did Mississippi Masala and Monsoon Wedding, among 
 others
  
 Mira Nair film proposal revives interest in Beatles visit to 
 Rishikesh

This almost certainly had to have come from an Indian 
source, or it would have mentioned that she's also the
director of Kama Sutra. It's one of the loveliest films
ever, but was not received well in India (and in fact
was prevented from being shown there in many locations).

Fascinating to me that the country that invented the
Kama Sutra is too prudish to deal with a film that
has the same title and shows a little nudity. (Actually,
it's the cross-caste sex that was probably taboo for them.)

And re Shemp's suggestion that Kama Sutra was 
soft-core porn, that comment reflects his 
attitude towards sex, not the film's. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much 
  sports in this country.  That's because it diverts attention 
  from the rich who are destroying the middle class.  Maybe we 
  should have a football game with the middle class against the 
  rich to see who wins.  :)
 
 The rich would win every time, as long as there
 are referees. Every referee can be bribed, and
 pretty much every rich person would think of 
 bribing them, whereas most middle class would
 neither think of it or have the resources to
 do it effectively.  :-)

Besides, sadly, in most of America the rich would
actually be in better physical shape than the middle
class. The rich spend several days a week at their
gyms, so that they can look good at society functions
and keep their required corporate health insurance
premiums fairly low. The most exercise that many 
middle class have had in recent years is mowing the
lawn and doing biceps curls with a sixpack of beer. 







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread Louis McKenzie


Because he created a movement that I feel changed the world and maintained himself and that movement for 50 and still going. At the end of that 50 years people are still donating large amounts of money to him no matter what you think. Yes I would want to be around him because of the benefits I have gotten from being in the distance. 


- Original Message From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:22:43 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I might learn some things.Let me see if I understand this right.You want to be around Maharishi because you respect him as a business man because he charged $1 million per person for the course?And you want to learn from that?What, how to charge exhorbitant amounts of money for courses that 30 years ago went for, literally 1/1,000 of that cost?I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without emotion   - Original Message  From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:16:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another
 corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@  wrote:   When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought wow  what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars  to be close to him for a month.YESWhy?  Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him?  If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very Master  you purport to follow because your Master has already told you that  the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does not  include guru worship. - Original Message   From: sparaig sparaig@  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian  TMO are a bunch of thugs  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: 'Untrustworthy'.Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz  andwhat was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now becomeuntrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it  wasin this 1974 quote below.It's what it has become evidently:untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent.   Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of  Maharishi,as a teacher or his teaching or business
 man?'Untrustworthy'?   Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up. TheMaharishi Effect?What to do to right things with folks and  bringthem back?People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because  they were offended,   for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place  to try to hold onto people.   And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace  indefinitely, even YOUR   assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order  to make certain projects   happen--doesn't hold.  To subscribe, send a message to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-11-01 Thread gullible fool
 
But I have to ask, which is the more interesting post
to read...

I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or
three times actually a few times

or

Judy: is this an example of the flow of consciousness
you admire so much?

?


--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or
 three times 
 actually a few times
 
 
 
 
 Judy: is this an example of the flow of
 consciousness you admire so 
 much?
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  - Original Message 
  From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:29:45 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of
 injera!
  
  
  Shemp,
  
  I just found your original post, nice one.
  
  Robert Johnson from Dust My Broom, 1936
  
  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over
 there,
  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over
 there,
  If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must
 be in Ethiopia
  somehwhere.
  
  There are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I
 sing that lyric 
 in
  Alexandria their heads whip around!  I think they
 believe I am 
 making
  it up on the spot to get their attention, but it
 is based on the 
 idea
  that Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and
 were legendary 
 way
  back in the 30's.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
Sal,

I think you are talking about Puris right?  I
 don't mess with 
 deep
fried stuff much myself.  I am usually only
 cooking for one or 
 two 
   so
it is too much trouble.  I make flat breads on
 a nice thick 
 pizza
stone, that makes a huge difference for all
 breads including 
   pizzas. 
I recently went to NYC to see how they make
 pizzas in the last 
 few
remaining coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn
 is one.  Coal 
 cooks at
800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood
 oven.  They get a 
   char on
the bread and I was chasing that flavor in my
 own oven.  I 
 figured 
   out
how to do it in my gas oven.  I put the pizza
 stone on the 
 bottom 
   of
the oven and crank it up to broil to pre-heat
 for almost an 
 hour, 
Then I cook the thinly rolled pizza for about
 5 minutes.  
 After 
   that I
put it under the broiler to broil the top for
 another 3 
 minutes. I
swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal
 ovens!

I spend some time here in DC talking to
 traditional cooks 
 about how
they make their foods.  I find that it is the
 best way to 
 start a
conversation with people from other cultures. 
 Lately I am 
 chasing
traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from
 Tev, millet 
 flour. 
   
   
   
   Ah, now you're talking about my favourite
 cuisine.
   
   I had heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20
 years and never 
   bothered to try it.
   
   Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years ago and
 it instantly 
 became 
   my favourite.  Injera is incredible and although
 the restaurant 
 I go 
   to offers meat dishes it just isn't necessary
 with all the 
 wonderful 
   vegetarian dishes available in this cuisine.
   
   Making injera: yes, I've tried on two or three
 occasions to make 
 it 
   myself.  I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line
 and let me tell 
 you: 
   it was incredibly difficult to make...not the
 mixing and 
 fermenting 
   part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the
 actual making of the 
   crepe-like injera.  And I thought making dosa
 was hard...it's a 
   cinch compared to injera.
   
   Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your
 experiences?
   
   Also, what ratio did you do the millet to
 tef...and did you mix 
 the 
   millet in with the tef before the fermenting (I
 assume you did)?
   
   I've become quite friendly with the owner of the
 Ethiopian who 
 owns 
   the restaurant I frequent.  He has an almost
 religious 
 dedication to 
   tef, which he claims is the most complete grain
 on the planet 
 (hey, 
   all those gold-winning Ethiopian long-distance
 runners all grew 
 up 
   on it, so there's gotta be something to it!).
   
   All I know is, I can have a stomach ache before
 eating Ethiopean 
   and, after, it will be gone.
   
   
   
   
Most
Ethiopians here don't even bother to make it,
 they just buy 
 it.  I
have to talk to the grandmothers to get the
 good tips!

Food obsessions is the luxury of having no
 kids.  I'm sure 
 when 
   yours
get a little older you will be back at the
 rolling 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread gullible fool

The problem with the world is that you can all too
easily replace referee with politician without
losing any meaning.

--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't question your manhood but I do think there
 is too much 
  sports in this country.  That's because it diverts
 attention 
  from the rich who are destroying the middle class.
  Maybe we 
  should have a football game with the middle class
 against the 
  rich to see who wins.  :)
 
 The rich would win every time, as long as there
 are referees. Every referee can be bribed, and
 pretty much every rich person would think of 
 bribing them, whereas most middle class would
 neither think of it or have the resources to
 do it effectively.  :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-11-01 Thread Louis McKenzie


but they have strange ways. I can tell you a story if you like but its one that takes time. I will just say that some people will do anything to remain what they think is respect in ethiopian society.

I love ethiopian food. My favorite Ethiopian female friend is Marta Poulos a few different moves and I may have married that one.
- Original Message From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:20:11 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or three times actuallya few timesNice one Louis!The Ethiopian women I have met here are super welldressed and perfectly made up, (maintenance expectations seem high),and very insulated by their community ties. Look but don't touch rulesseemed to be in full force and effect.But those eyes...- Original Message  From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:29:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!   Shemp,  I just found your original post, nice one.  Robert Johnson from "Dust My Broom", 1936  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good
 gal over there, I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there, If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in Ethiopia somehwhere.  There are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I sing that lyric in Alexandria their heads whip around!I think they believe I am making it up on the spot to get their attention, but it is based on the idea that Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and were legendary way back in the 30's.   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@ wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"   curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Sal,  I think you are talking about Puris right?I don't mess with deep   fried stuff much myself.I am
 usually only cooking for one or two   so   it is too much trouble.I make flat breads on a nice thick pizza   stone, that makes a huge difference for all breads including   pizzas.I recently went to NYC to see how they make pizzas in the last few   remaining coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn is one.Coal cooks at   800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood oven.They get a   char on   the bread and I was chasing that flavor in my own oven.I figured   out   how to do it in my gas oven.I put the pizza stone on the bottom   of   the oven and crank it up to broil to pre-heat for almost an hour,Then I cook the thinly rolled pizza for about 5 minutes.After   that I   put
 it under the broiler to broil the top for another 3 minutes. I   swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal ovens!  I spend some time here in DC talking to traditional cooks about how   they make their foods.I find that it is the best way to start a   conversation with people from other cultures.Lately I am chasing   traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from Tev, millet flour. Ah, now you're talking about my favourite cuisine.I had heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20 years and never   bothered to try it.Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years ago and it instantly became   my favourite.Injera is incredible and although the restaurant I go   to offers meat dishes it just isn't
 necessary with all the wonderful   vegetarian dishes available in this cuisine.Making injera: yes, I've tried on two or three occasions to make it   myself.I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line and let me tell you:   it was incredibly difficult to make...not the mixing and fermenting   part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the actual making of the   crepe-like injera.And I thought making dosa was hard...it's a   cinch compared to injera.Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your experiences?Also, what ratio did you do the millet to tef...and did you mix the   millet in with the tef before the fermenting (I assume you did)?I've become quite friendly with the owner of the Ethiopian who owns   the restaurant I frequent.He has an
 almost religious dedication to   tef, which he claims is the most complete grain on the planet (hey,   all those gold-winning Ethiopian long-distance runners all grew up   on it, so there's gotta be something to it!).All I know is, I can have a stomach ache before eating Ethiopean   and, after, it will be gone. Most   Ethiopians here don't even bother to make it, they just buy it.I   have to talk to the grandmothers to get the good tips!  Food obsessions is the luxury of having no kids.I'm sure when   yours   get a little older you will be back at the rolling pin!   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
 salsunshine@   wrote:   Curtis,Yeah, great place.I first started going there with a couple of friends when the food at CNL was crummy (pretty often) and that   was a   

[FairfieldLife] Re: A fools paradise

2006-11-01 Thread vashtirama
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama vashtirama@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
  j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama 
vashtirama@ 
 wrote:
   
Weird. Just got a pointlessly nasty private email from 
 nablus108.

I mean, weird because it was in private. Now, what entitles me
to such special treatment when one could do it publicly in 
this
forum, where it happens all the time?
   
   Lemme guess what his email was about: Your only recent posts 
were
   about food, which leads me to believe he tore into you about 
being
   off-topic. Am I right?
   
   He's dissed people before in public for posting stuff he thinks 
is
   off-topic, and the only response he ever gets is this reminder 
 from
   the FFL description: Pretty much any topic is fair game. 
Since 
 his
   public topic cop routine accomplishes nothing, it could be that 
 he's
   trying a new tactic by trying to silence people with ramped up
   nastiness in private email.
  
  
  Hi Alex, maybe you're right. He didn't get specific enough.
  I'm on other lists where the members are expected to alert the
  listowners if they get this kind of thing privately. I didn't do 
 that
  here to alert Rick, but that's where I got the idea to make it 
 public.
  The really nice private responses I got are worth it so I have to 
 say
  I recommend doing it.
 
 
 This is a lie and you know it. Do you dare sharing the post I wrote 
 with others, here on this board, now ? Probably not because you 
would 
 be exposed as a fool. 
 It was accidently sent to your mailbox because yahoo did not alert 
me 
 to the fact that I was not longer a member even though signing in 
was 
 done normally. This again had something to do with mail bouncing, 
and 
 whatnot.
 It is true however that I find FFL less relevant after it became 
 flooded with the alt.med people. Consequently I, and many others it 
 seems, spend less time reading posts.


Yeah, right.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: A fools paradise

2006-11-01 Thread vashtirama
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama vashtirama@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
  j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama 
vashtirama@ 
 wrote:
   
Weird. Just got a pointlessly nasty private email from 
 nablus108.

I mean, weird because it was in private. Now, what entitles me
to such special treatment when one could do it publicly in 
this
forum, where it happens all the time?
   
   Lemme guess what his email was about: Your only recent posts 
were
   about food, which leads me to believe he tore into you about 
being
   off-topic. Am I right?
   
   He's dissed people before in public for posting stuff he thinks 
is
   off-topic, and the only response he ever gets is this reminder 
 from
   the FFL description: Pretty much any topic is fair game. 
Since 
 his
   public topic cop routine accomplishes nothing, it could be that 
 he's
   trying a new tactic by trying to silence people with ramped up
   nastiness in private email.
  
  
  Hi Alex, maybe you're right. He didn't get specific enough.
  I'm on other lists where the members are expected to alert the
  listowners if they get this kind of thing privately. I didn't do 
 that
  here to alert Rick, but that's where I got the idea to make it 
 public.
  The really nice private responses I got are worth it so I have to 
 say
  I recommend doing it.
 
 
 This is a lie and you know it. Do you dare sharing the post I wrote 
 with others, here on this board, now ? Probably not because you 
would 
 be exposed as a fool. 
 It was accidently sent to your mailbox because yahoo did not alert 
me 
 to the fact that I was not longer a member even though signing in 
was 
 done normally. This again had something to do with mail bouncing, 
and 
 whatnot.
 It is true however that I find FFL less relevant after it became 
 flooded with the alt.med people. Consequently I, and many others it 
 seems, spend less time reading posts.


Below is a much more civilized message from you, nablus108. I'm 
posting it here because you asked me to. And now I'm done with this 
topic.
Sorry, there is something wrong with this yahoo. When I post to the
board it goes to some private fellow instead. I'm sorry for the
inconvinience. Could you post this to the boarde so others can read as
I seem unable to do so.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread Louis McKenzie


I read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on. 
You expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot to talk about.

Have you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household name. Then you will know that you are a success.Well Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David and Earl I think I went toDavid'sfirst wedding, I really liked them both because I could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at school anytime and be allowed to attend. 

Imagine if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be in an all out nuclear war.  This is life without Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever it is he brought to the world.

I admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I understand that experience. It takes great effort and sacrifice to make major impact. Even one may fail or succeed this doesn't really have anything to do with it. Impact is felt in the effort. Every action has an effect on world consciousness, a thought introduced by Einstein yet demonstrated by Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I do not know if Einstein would be understood. 

As for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi. There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true rishi. I have seen a small glimpse of what happens. I have seen what it is like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so wonderful when he is on top. Then when an eb comes he is a crook, a liar a thief, a child molester, a rapist. I was once at Agape church in California and a guy who thought of himself as a psychic was telling people all he knew about me. 

He told them that I raped women at MIU. That I busted into their rooms and raped them. I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life forced a woman, to have sex if she did not want to. At MIU I had very little sex. Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me anyone African American who had beensomewhat popular in the TM/Art of living circles.. He caused a lot of negativity. But I thought he was the most stupid pretender on the planet. Another time I was with a bigot who pretended to be psychic in greece, in a restaurant. She says watch your purses everyone Louis might steal one. I thought what a stupid person. People do and say all kinds of things reflective of who they think theyare. As a person of color people are even more apt to believe the bull than one of non color.
 Michael Jackson is a child molester no matter what the jury voted, OJ Simpson is a murderor, Nelson Mandela is not a great leader but a killer as one 15 year old south african brazilian white skinned girl told me. 

In the end Maharish might end up living in a cave penniless and with not one follower. Thank God he may not live that long. But this is just what happens. Loyalty is as good as one's ability to keep you loyal. I was in greece for an LRT related program. As my life goes I was doing something that I did not have the money to do. The program was expensive. I got myself and two others through it. Yet what people chose to talk about was that I might steal because I said that when I was a child I stole from my uncle's money cabinet. 

If I could have 1/1000th of the positive impact Maharishi has had on the planet I would be happy. Yet I guess you may say he screwed me up becuase I wont stop until I do. Looking to see what more can I do to serve humanity to make a difference for someone else. This is what I have gotten from MMY. Why not make it a phenomenon if that will make people do it? 

The question is where do I want to be. I could sit here and talk about how life sucks, this or that is a complete rip off but what is the point? I am out on a limb for God. I am 1000% 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc

2006-11-01 Thread Vaj


On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:07 PM, rmy108 wrote:Are you an initiate of his techniques or is this something you  heard   form someone else?  Fascinating, thanks. Benares Hindu University is the creme de la   creme. Many, if not most of the 350,000 Brahmin pundits who were   displaced from Kashmir by the Islamic occupation there landed in   Benares. It's always been a Hindu Noah's Ark, but now even moreso.  I've learned all his techniques and I recommend them.  Whats nice  about doing his programs is that it feels like being on an old time  TM course.  Not dogmatic at all, and the people that come are very  open, intelligent and not jaded like most of us old time TMer's. As a matter of fact, I said to him one time, "This feels like the old  TM days!" and he replied "Yes, and lets keep it that way!"  I listened to the beginning of the recording and it is interesting because he seems to have actually improved on TM and the siddhi portion as he seems to be using a more appropriate pre-siddhi technique. I bet he gets less side effects the way he seems to be doing it. Can you say which siddhis he is doing? Is he promoting yogic flying? I am interested if he is using the Patanjali sutra that actually is said to engender peace in the environment which is not used in the TMSP.
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[FairfieldLife] More Pandits ....

2006-11-01 Thread Rick Archer
From a friend:



Today, we heard that 50 more Pandits arrived on campus last night...
they were lovingly, joyfully greeted with the same conch blowing and
bag-pipes as the first group. There was a short but sweet video of their
arrival, and then Bevan told us an endearing anecdote that he heard from
Bill Goldstein, the M.U.M. lawyer now in India, assisting the Pandits
getting their passports and visas at the American Embassy there:

Apparently, as one Pandit approached the  immigration official, in order
to receive his passport/visa, the official said that he is about to get
married, and would like a blessing. So the Pandit said, OK, remove your
shoes, your glasses, put your papers aside, and close your eyes. The
man did exactly as he was told, and received the Pandits blessings!
Times, they are a-changin'!!

We have 100 Pandits here now, 99 more to arrive this week, and the rest
of the 350 a few days later as available flights allow. Many more
Pandits will quickly follow. Our atmosphere is being bathed in bliss and
Light! Bevanji said that when they did their programs once in the
vicinity of 120 Pandits, they were utterly amazed at the power and
bliss! O Joy! JAI Guru Dev




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-11-01 Thread Louis McKenzie


Just a little play
- Original Message From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:25:56 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or three times actually a few timesJudy: is this an example of the flow of consciousness you admire so much?- Original Message  From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:29:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!   Shemp,  I just found your original post, nice one.  Robert Johnson from "Dust My Broom", 1936  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there, I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there, If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in Ethiopia somehwhere.  There
 are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I sing that lyric in Alexandria their heads whip around!I think they believe I am making it up on the spot to get their attention, but it is based on the idea that Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and were legendary way back in the 30's.   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@ wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"   curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Sal,  I think you are talking about Puris right?I don't mess with deep   fried stuff much myself.I am usually only cooking for one or two   so   it is too much trouble.I make flat breads on a nice thick pizza  
 stone, that makes a huge difference for all breads including   pizzas.I recently went to NYC to see how they make pizzas in the last few   remaining coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn is one.Coal cooks at   800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood oven.They get a   char on   the bread and I was chasing that flavor in my own oven.I figured   out   how to do it in my gas oven.I put the pizza stone on the bottom   of   the oven and crank it up to broil to pre-heat for almost an hour,Then I cook the thinly rolled pizza for about 5 minutes.After   that I   put it under the broiler to broil the top for another 3 minutes. I   swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal
 ovens!  I spend some time here in DC talking to traditional cooks about how   they make their foods.I find that it is the best way to start a   conversation with people from other cultures.Lately I am chasing   traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from Tev, millet flour. Ah, now you're talking about my favourite cuisine.I had heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20 years and never   bothered to try it.Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years ago and it instantly became   my favourite.Injera is incredible and although the restaurant I go   to offers meat dishes it just isn't necessary with all the wonderful   vegetarian dishes available in this cuisine. 
   Making injera: yes, I've tried on two or three occasions to make it   myself.I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line and let me tell you:   it was incredibly difficult to make...not the mixing and fermenting   part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the actual making of the   crepe-like injera.And I thought making dosa was hard...it's a   cinch compared to injera.Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your experiences?Also, what ratio did you do the millet to tef...and did you mix the   millet in with the tef before the fermenting (I assume you did)?I've become quite friendly with the owner of the Ethiopian who owns   the restaurant I frequent.He has an almost religious dedication to   tef, which he claims is the most
 complete grain on the planet (hey,   all those gold-winning Ethiopian long-distance runners all grew up   on it, so there's gotta be something to it!).All I know is, I can have a stomach ache before eating Ethiopean   and, after, it will be gone. Most   Ethiopians here don't even bother to make it, they just buy it.I   have to talk to the grandmothers to get the good tips!  Food obsessions is the luxury of having no kids.I'm sure when   yours   get a little older you will be back at the rolling pin!   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@   wrote: 
  Curtis,Yeah, great place.I first started going there with a couple of friends when the food at CNL was crummy (pretty often) and that   was a wonderful change...and it was also, of course, OTP, making it   even more enjoyable. :)Those were the days.That's great that you got to know the family and learned some   cooking techniques.At one point I was pretty good at making that puffy   type of Indian bread (can't think of the name right now) but quit   because I figured kids and hot oil didn't mix too well. Now we get take-  out but at some point I hope
 to get back to making it myself, as I love   Indian 

[FairfieldLife] An Index, to FFL

2006-11-01 Thread dhamiltony2k5
The Meditating Community and the TM-Org, Fairfieldlife.



Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/


The FFL list can be read off the internet from its homepage, without 
having to be a member. You can start by using the links in this 
index or go to the home page and start there by clicking 
on 'messages'. 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages


From the `messages' you can insert these numbers into the message # 
search box.  That will take you to the area of the archive of these 
threads. You can sieve the posts of the archive area that way.


Often I point newcomers, recent arrivals or outsiders to FFL through 
this list.  Below is a quick index.  Scroll down through this index 
and survey the range of subject threads.

  This index includes many summary posts in the FFL archive like:

 

-the petition contained in post # 3811 (The Meditating Rift Here)

-The TMO, partitioning the Meditating Community thread, # 3478

-Meditating Classical Concert Pianist Banned from MUM thread #3113 
(late Nov, Dec '02)

-Meditating Irish Musician Banned from MUM # 2963

-Meditators Banned from MUM  # 4219 , 4402


-Is Everyone Welcome?  953

-The difference between a shooting star and a falling one: # 2960


The Meditating Community Mexican Stand-off:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/26429
 

-The `one hundred millionaires' thread # 985  or 949



-Some resolution #726 and thread

-Heavenly Mountain  # 935

-Legal remedy and threads # 3965

-The meditating community-wide survey # 3896 thread

Also look in the files section of FFL.  The actual survey is 
archived there.  The seeds of the present were present then in 
1994~  It is a very interesting read.  

-Fairfield and the TMO, the dwindle  # 4724

-The Iowa Meditating Landscape, Trickle-down Depopulation 4503 , 
4502 , 13564

-The Kaplans 
and their money threads, # 3040 or # 3420 


The recurring million dollar questions spread throughout the archive:

-Fiscal Soundness summary, 5958

-Financial disclosure thread, 5012, 5026

The Real Estate Guru, D Magazine, 10938
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10938

Estimating the Assets:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13902

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13959


Hartford Advocate, Maharishi's Hotel of Emptiness:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17234

TMO purchases NYC Wall Street building
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28546

  
-Endowing, process and The Meditating Community  637

-The Kaplan Lawsuit
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10936
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13217


-Kaplans 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13274


-Lawsuit Against the Kaplans
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17110

(More on the Kaplans  Heavenly Mountain in sequence below)


-The TMO and the CIA thread 5752

-Threats in the fair field, 5057  and 5063 , 30276


-What is the hook here, what is the story here thread, # 4813   # 
4762

-The Sex Summaries I-IV, 6154 through 6157 and and also posts during 
late December 2002 and post # 7663, 

- Sexy-Sadie.txt, A compilation of posts about MMY's other guru 
life.  In the files section of FFL:
http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/gIA3QBSi0yiUE0KAJU0EYsFiuNMzTjUDZ9j_z6LV
5ZzXmp28u4oqzeDr-oTxvZoE24PfMGM0qlTS19MYa1GOhseOzU9TQi15Llf-/Sexy-
Sadie.txt
  You might have to sign in to read the 'files' section of the FFL 
archive


-Summarized Topic Articles Titled:, 4813

-Guru Dev's Discourse: Gyan  Bhakti  7883 and 7884

-TM Scandals a Logical Sequence, 7430, Insights to TMO in India, 7504
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13338


-J.Krishnamurti, 1929 Speech Dissolving his organization, post 7513

-Search for Global Queen, 7664

-Just go, don't enter in to the politics, Karunamayi,  7849

-Tax-exempt Status Lost, 7793

-TMSedona, 7510

- Walking the dog, where to go to learn meditation outside the cult:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13502

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37303



-MMY's comments about other techniques, links: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28270


-The Diaspora, The Informal-TMO, 8176

-Bevan, MUM Presidential Frolic'ng ,  8220

About Cult in the TMO culture..  10346
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10346
Cult test:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10307

Of Contracts, vows and loyalty testing thread… 10307,  10319

-Funding the Pundits thread,  12679,  13565, 16026 Rudra's Letter:  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13305




Also  MMY's Family Money : 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13568
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/31999
Mahapatra: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/48039
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/117229
Run 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A fools paradise

2006-11-01 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 nablusos108@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama vashtirama@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
   j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vashtirama 
 vashtirama@ 
  wrote:

 Weird. Just got a pointlessly nasty private email from 
  nablus108.
 
 I mean, weird because it was in private. Now, what entitles 
me
 to such special treatment when one could do it publicly in 
 this
 forum, where it happens all the time?

Lemme guess what his email was about: Your only recent posts 
 were
about food, which leads me to believe he tore into you about 
 being
off-topic. Am I right?

He's dissed people before in public for posting stuff he 
thinks 
 is
off-topic, and the only response he ever gets is this 
reminder 
  from
the FFL description: Pretty much any topic is fair game. 
 Since 
  his
public topic cop routine accomplishes nothing, it could be 
that 
  he's
trying a new tactic by trying to silence people with ramped up
nastiness in private email.
   
   
   Hi Alex, maybe you're right. He didn't get specific enough.
   I'm on other lists where the members are expected to alert the
   listowners if they get this kind of thing privately. I didn't 
do 
  that
   here to alert Rick, but that's where I got the idea to make it 
  public.
   The really nice private responses I got are worth it so I have 
to 
  say
   I recommend doing it.
  
  
  This is a lie and you know it. Do you dare sharing the post I 
wrote 
  with others, here on this board, now ? Probably not because you 
 would 
  be exposed as a fool. 
  It was accidently sent to your mailbox because yahoo did not 
alert 
 me 
  to the fact that I was not longer a member even though signing in 
 was 
  done normally. This again had something to do with mail bouncing, 
 and 
  whatnot.
  It is true however that I find FFL less relevant after it became 
  flooded with the alt.med people. Consequently I, and many others 
it 
  seems, spend less time reading posts.
 
 
 Below is a much more civilized message from you, nablus108. I'm 
 posting it here because you asked me to. And now I'm done with this 
 topic.
 Sorry, there is something wrong with this yahoo. When I post to the
 board it goes to some private fellow instead. I'm sorry for the
 inconvinience. Could you post this to the boarde so others can read 
as
 I seem unable to do so.

That post was not what you were reffering to when you said I 
sent nasty private email. I challenge you to post that email here ! 
But you will not, because you are a sorryful coward. That email, 
intended for this board, was a speech by Creme. Is the mail above 
nasty ? If it is for you, it seems you are living in a strange world 
indeed.
You are just trying to escape from your sorry state of mind by 
creating stories about others. I'm sorry, but it seems you are a 
cowardly nutcase. And a fool.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A fools paradise

2006-11-01 Thread Peter


--- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

 
 That post was not what you were reffering to when
 you said I 
 sent nasty private email. I challenge you to post
 that email here ! 
 But you will not, because you are a sorryful coward.
 That email, 
 intended for this board, was a speech by Creme. Is
 the mail above 
 nasty ? If it is for you, it seems you are living in
 a strange world 
 indeed.
 You are just trying to escape from your sorry state
 of mind by 
 creating stories about others. I'm sorry, but it
 seems you are a 
 cowardly nutcase. And a fool.

Nablusos108,
Here's a normal response to what was said about your
post: Oh, sorry you got that post meant for the
newsgroup. I'm sorry you thought it was nasty, because
that certanly wasn't my intent. Finis. Your above
response reveals volumes about you.





 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A fools paradise

2006-11-01 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 snip
 
  
  That post was not what you were reffering to when
  you said I 
  sent nasty private email. I challenge you to post
  that email here ! 
  But you will not, because you are a sorryful coward.
  That email, 
  intended for this board, was a speech by Creme. Is
  the mail above 
  nasty ? If it is for you, it seems you are living in
  a strange world 
  indeed.
  You are just trying to escape from your sorry state
  of mind by 
  creating stories about others. I'm sorry, but it
  seems you are a 
  cowardly nutcase. And a fool.
 
 Nablusos108,
 Here's a normal response to what was said about your
 post: Oh, sorry you got that post meant for the
 newsgroup. I'm sorry you thought it was nasty, because
 that certanly wasn't my intent. Finis. Your above
 response reveals volumes about you.
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread Vaj


Baseball's on the decline as far as TV viewers go, but nothing epitomizes a Kali Yuga pastime like American football. It teaches our kids that war is our real pastime. Don't forget to cheer.The destruction of the middle class and of labor unions by corporatists and the republican party is the destruction of the American varnas. Thus why we need an open or porous border to supply the new slave labor that will replace the dwindling middle class. The varna system should protect the 84 arts and sciences, but in this country all the trades are in decline, some are almost lost arts (e.g. stone masonry). But that's impossible when you have a government that is run by the corporations themselves and acts to assuage their greed and profit margins.On Oct 31, 2006, at 3:36 PM, Bhairitu wrote:I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much sports in  this country.  That's because it diverts attention from the rich who are  destroying the middle class.  Maybe we should have a football game with  the middle class against the rich to see who wins.  :) 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
   spare egg Lawson English wrote:
coldbluiceman wrote:
 spare egg Lawson English wrote:
  cold blu ice man wrote:
   sparaig wrote:
Alex Stanley wrote:
  spare egg wrote:
 cold blu ice man wrote: 
 As no pundit worth his salt would 
 make a claim
 (or allow another to 
 make a claim) that would insinuate 
 a group of pundits 
 chanting Vedic verses could 
 change the course of human events.
 Lawson English wrote:
  What is a mahayagya,O Sagacious One?
  John A. Stanley wrote:
This: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ww2_yagya.jpg??
  
  Namaste Sir Alex John Stanely Ji..,
  i must politley inform you that the photo you 
  are looking at is the--
  Khumba Mela taken in 1944 on the banks of the 
  Jamuna/Yamuna river.
  The oldest Mela, the Khumba Mela, is held once 
  every 12 years at the 
  junction of the three sacred rivers 
  (Ganges, Yamuna, and Saraswati) 
  and attended by more than 40 million people. 
  Now the dates of the 
  Khumba Mela are set to the specific location 
  using astrological 
  calculations based upon the placement of 
  planet Jupiter, also there 
  are ardha-Khumbas held every 6 years 
  on the Jamuna River.
  
   ...The Kumbha Mela takes place every four years 
  in rotation at 
  Haridwar, Prayag (Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain, 
  according to the 
  placement of Jupiter in the Zodiac. 
  A modern innovation, there are 
  also popular half-melas, ardha-kumbhas, 
  every six years at Haridwar 
  and Prayag. It is at Prayag, where the 
  Yamuna River joins the Ganga, 
  that the largest number of human beings in 
  history gathered--15 
  million on February 6, 1989. Haridwar, 
  logistically less convenient, 
  managed ten million on April 14, 1998. 
  Still, that's five times this 
  year's two million Muslim pilgrims who journeyed 
  to Mecca for the 
  Haj, the second largest gathering... 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1998/9/1998-9-11.shtml
  
  Now AJ Ji..,what were you lead to 
  believe that photo is??
  
   According to Steve Perino, 
   no pundit worth his salt would make the
   claim that would 
   insinutate a group of pundits chanting 
   Vedic verses could change the course of human 
   events
  
  i won't address poor Sir Lawson Ji until 
  his doctors have screened 
  him for paranoia  delusional behavior.
  But having said that- if indeed that 
  was a world peace gathering 
  in Prayag in 1944(which i am not sayning it was)..
  It sadly did not have the 
  desired effect as how many estimated 
  millions died during Summer 1944
  and Summer 1945 in WWII??
  
  How many a-bombs did we drop on 
  Japan in the Summer of 1945?
 
 
 I never commented on the efficacy of such programs, 
 merely on your claim that they are 
 not traditional.

Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
i must politely inquire-, are you off your meds again?..
and when did i *EVER* say yagya was-, not traditional??

Stop making this stuff up!!..
i am going stop posting to you if you don't 
get professional help.

 I ask again: what is a mahayagya and... what is it FOR?

Pancha Mahayagya has a fivefold(hence Pancha) 
with desired personal 
results for all aspects of family life 
with regards to *PERSONAL* 
spiritual upliftment:
1. DEVOTION TOWARDS PARENTS 
2. DEVOTION AND FAITHFULNESS TOWARDS THE HUSBAND 
3. EQUALITY 
4. RIGHT CONDUCT AND CHARACTER 
5. ADORATION OF LORD VISHNU AND SINGING HYMNS IN HIS PRAISES 
http://urday.com/panch-2.html

 Hint to lurkers: google mahayagya
 
Sorry LawsonJi nothing with regards to world peace.., 
now please 
get screened by your professional 
mental health care provider..for 
your family's sake.
 
   Heh. So mahayagya is only for the individual? 
   The term pancha 
   mahayajnas (mahayagyas) refers specifically 
   to individual daily rituals.

  Namaste Sir Lawson Ji..,
  i must politley remind you the term- pancha 
  refers to count of 5 
  items or things.
  For example the PanchaTanMantras-(subtle elements of matter) 
  Sabda, Sparsa, Rupa, Rasa and Gandha.

 Yes, and the term pancha mahayajnas or
 pancha mahayagyas refers specifically to 
 rituals performed by individuals.

  i thought you said Annop Chandola schooled you in Sanskrit?

 Who told you that?

   However, mahayajna also refers to the great 
   rituals done by massive groups for many 
   different purposes. Had you done a google search 
   on mahayagya rather than pancha 
   mahayagya you would have noted this 
   immediately 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?

2006-11-01 Thread David Fiske
Correct. Lovely poem.Another educated person on this site!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm wondering whether your last phrase here was a conscious echo of the 
 final line of Robert Frost's poem, The Road Not Taken:
 
 Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
 I took the one less traveled by,
 And that has made all the difference. 
 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much 
  sports in this country.  That's because it diverts attention 
  from the rich who are destroying the middle class.  Maybe we 
  should have a football game with the middle class against the 
  rich to see who wins.  :)
 
 The rich would win every time, as long as there
 are referees. Every referee can be bribed, and
 pretty much every rich person would think of 
 bribing them, whereas most middle class would
 neither think of it or have the resources to
 do it effectively.  :-)


...pretty much every rich person would think of bribing them... 
you say and then you end with a smiley face, so I guess you're not 
serious.

Otherwise I'd think you were a fool for saying such a silly thing.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles in Rishikesh

2006-11-01 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  Mira Nair did Mississippi Masala and Monsoon Wedding, among 
  others
   
  Mira Nair film proposal revives interest in Beatles visit to 
  Rishikesh
 
 This almost certainly had to have come from an Indian 
 source, or it would have mentioned that she's also the
 director of Kama Sutra. It's one of the loveliest films
 ever, but was not received well in India (and in fact
 was prevented from being shown there in many locations).
 
 Fascinating to me that the country that invented the
 Kama Sutra is too prudish to deal with a film that
 has the same title and shows a little nudity. (Actually,
 it's the cross-caste sex that was probably taboo for them.)
 
 And re Shemp's suggestion that Kama Sutra was 
 soft-core porn, that comment reflects his 
 attitude towards sex, not the film's.



Uh, no.  It's soft-core porn, period.  Good soft-core porn but porn 
none-the-less.  Along the lines of David Hamilton films but even 
more explicit than Hamilton and much more sex and nudity.

And, hey, don't get me wrong.  As porn, I liked it...mostly lesbian 
scenes.  But to call it art because of the Kama-Sutra theme is, 
well, just silly.  Take out the sex scenes and it's not really such 
a good movie.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?

2006-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
David,

I'm sure convincing people about your beliefs is not your cup of tea,
but I was wondering if you would care to elaborate on why you find the
site you posted credible?  Although a guy like me predictably doesn't
find the information on the site compelling , I am always interested
in why someone else does.  In the spirit of discovery, and without any
intention of sharing my opinions un-invited, would you care to share
your views? 

Curtis

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wrote:

 Correct. Lovely poem.Another educated person on this site!
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  I'm wondering whether your last phrase here was a conscious echo
of the 
  final line of Robert Frost's poem, The Road Not Taken:
  
  Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
  I took the one less traveled by,
  And that has made all the difference. 
  
 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-11-01 Thread llundrub





Louis, you like name dropping females. Isn't that 
sort of 'kiss and tell?'

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Louis McKenzie 
  
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:22 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 
  mystery of injera!
  
  
  but 
  they have strange ways. I can tell you a story if you like but its 
  one that takes time. I will just say that some people will do anything 
  to remain what they think is respect in ethiopian society.
  
  I 
  love ethiopian food. My favorite Ethiopian female friend is Marta Poulos 
  a few different moves and I may have married that one.
  - 
  Original Message From: curtisdeltablues 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:20:11 
  AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or three 
  times actuallya few timesNice one Louis!The Ethiopian 
  women I have met here are super welldressed and perfectly made up, 
  (maintenance expectations seem high),and very insulated by their community 
  ties. Look but don't touch rulesseemed to be in full force and 
  effect.But those eyes...   
   - Original Message  From: curtisdeltablues 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:29:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 
  Re: The mystery of injera!   Shemp,  I 
  just found your original post, nice one.  Robert Johnson from 
  "Dust My Broom", 1936  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my 
  good gal over there, I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal 
  over there, If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in 
  Ethiopia somehwhere.  There are so many Ethiopians 
  here that everytime I sing that lyric in Alexandria their heads whip 
  around!I think they believe I am making it up on the spot 
  to get their attention, but it is based on the idea that Ethiopian 
  woman are especially beautiful and were legendary way back in the 
  30's.   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@ wrote:   
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"   
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote: 
  Sal,  I think you are talking about Puris 
  right?I don't mess with deep   fried stuff much 
  myself.I am usually only cooking for one or two   
  so   it is too much trouble.I make flat breads on 
  a nice thick pizza   stone, that makes a huge difference for 
  all breads including   pizzas.I recently went 
  to NYC to see how they make pizzas in the last few   remaining 
  coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn is one.Coal cooks at 
800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood oven.They 
  get a   char on   the bread and I was chasing that 
  flavor in my own oven.I figured   out  
   how to do it in my gas oven.I put the pizza stone on the 
  bottom   of   the oven and crank it up to broil to 
  pre-heat for almost an hour,Then I cook the thinly rolled 
  pizza for about 5 minutes.After   that I  
   put it under the broiler to broil the top for another 3 minutes. 
  I   swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal 
  ovens!  I spend some time here in DC 
  talking to traditional cooks about how   they make their 
  foods.I find that it is the best way to start a   
  conversation with people from other cultures.Lately I am 
  chasing   traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from Tev, 
  millet flour. Ah, now 
  you're talking about my favourite cuisine.I had 
  heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20 years and never   bothered 
  to try it.Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years 
  ago and it instantly became   my favourite.Injera is 
  incredible and although the restaurant I go   to offers meat 
  dishes it just isn't necessary with all the wonderful   vegetarian 
  dishes available in this cuisine.Making injera: 
  yes, I've tried on two or three occasions to make it   
  myself.I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line and let me tell you: 
it was incredibly difficult to make...not the mixing and 
  fermenting   part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the actual 
  making of the   crepe-like injera.And I thought making 
  dosa was hard...it's a   cinch compared to injera.  
Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your 
  experiences?Also, what ratio did you do the millet 
  to tef...and did you mix the   millet in with the tef before the 
  fermenting (I assume you did)?I've become quite 
  friendly with the owner of the Ethiopian who owns   the restaurant 
  I frequent.He has an almost religious dedication to   
  tef, which he claims is the most complete grain on the planet (hey,  
   all those gold-winning Ethiopian long-distance runners all grew up 
on it, so there's gotta be something to it!).  
All I know is, I can have a stomach ache before eating Ethiopean 
and, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index, to FFL

2006-11-01 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I looked for Ealr Kaplan letter in the files did not see it.
 

Earl Kaplan's Letter 4.16.04
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/32360


 
 - Original Message 
 From: dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:59:02 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] An Index, to FFL
 
 
 The Meditating Community and the TM-Org, Fairfieldlife.
 
 
 
 Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at:
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
 
 
 The FFL list can be read off the internet from its homepage, 
without 
 having to be a member. You can start by using the links in this 
 index or go to the home page and start there by clicking 
 on 'messages'. 
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages
 
 
 From the `messages' you can insert these numbers into the message 
# 
 search box.  That will take you to the area of the archive of 
these 
 threads. You can sieve the posts of the archive area that way.
 
 
 Often I point newcomers, recent arrivals or outsiders to FFL 
through 
 this list.  Below is a quick index.  Scroll down through this 
index 
 and survey the range of subject threads.
 
   This index includes many summary posts in the FFL archive like:
 
 
 
 -the petition contained in post # 3811 (The Meditating Rift Here)
 
 -The TMO, partitioning the Meditating Community thread, # 3478
 
 -Meditating Classical Concert Pianist Banned from MUM thread #3113 
 (late Nov, Dec '02)
 
 -Meditating Irish Musician Banned from MUM # 2963
 
 -Meditators Banned from MUM  # 4219 , 4402
 
 
 -Is Everyone Welcome?  953
 
 -The difference between a shooting star and a falling one: # 2960
 
 
 The Meditating Community Mexican Stand-off:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/26429
 
 
 -The `one hundred millionaires' thread # 985  or 949
 
 
 
 -Some resolution #726 and thread
 
 -Heavenly Mountain  # 935
 
 -Legal remedy and threads # 3965
 
 -The meditating community-wide survey # 3896 thread
 
 Also look in the files section of FFL.  The actual survey is 
 archived there.  The seeds of the present were present then in 
 1994~  It is a very interesting read.  
 
 -Fairfield and the TMO, the dwindle  # 4724
 
 -The Iowa Meditating Landscape, Trickle-down Depopulation 4503 , 
 4502 , 13564
 
 -The Kaplans 
 and their money threads, # 3040 or # 3420 
 
 
 The recurring million dollar questions spread throughout the 
archive:
 
 -Fiscal Soundness summary, 5958
 
 -Financial disclosure thread, 5012, 5026
 
 The Real Estate Guru, D Magazine, 10938
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10938
 
 Estimating the Assets:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13902
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13959
 
 
 Hartford Advocate, Maharishi's Hotel of Emptiness:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17234
 
 TMO purchases NYC Wall Street building
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28546
 
   
 -Endowing, process and The Meditating Community  637
 
 -The Kaplan Lawsuit
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10936
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13217
 
 
 -Kaplans 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13274
 
 
 -Lawsuit Against the Kaplans
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17110
 
 (More on the Kaplans  Heavenly Mountain in sequence below)
 
 
 -The TMO and the CIA thread 5752
 
 -Threats in the fair field, 5057  and 5063 , 30276
 
 
 -What is the hook here, what is the story here thread, # 4813   # 
 4762
 
 -The Sex Summaries I-IV, 6154 through 6157 and and also posts 
during 
 late December 2002 and post # 7663, 
 
 - Sexy-Sadie.txt, A compilation of posts about MMY's other guru 
 life.  In the files section of FFL:
 
http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/gIA3QBSi0yiUE0KAJU0EYsFiuNMzTjUDZ9j_z6LV
 5ZzXmp28u4oqzeDr-oTxvZoE24PfMGM0qlTS19MYa1GOhseOzU9TQi15Llf-/Sexy-
 Sadie.txt
   You might have to sign in to read the 'files' section of the FFL 
 archive
 
 
 -Summarized Topic Articles Titled:, 4813
 
 -Guru Dev's Discourse: Gyan  Bhakti  7883 and 7884
 
 -TM Scandals a Logical Sequence, 7430, Insights to TMO in India, 
7504
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13338
 
 
 -J.Krishnamurti, 1929 Speech Dissolving his organization, post 7513
 
 -Search for Global Queen, 7664
 
 -Just go, don't enter in to the politics, Karunamayi,  7849
 
 -Tax-exempt Status Lost, 7793
 
 -TMSedona, 7510
 
 - Walking the dog, where to go to learn meditation outside the 
cult:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13502
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37303
 
 
 
 -MMY's comments about other techniques, links: 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28270
 
 
 -The Diaspora, The Informal-TMO, 8176
 
 -Bevan, MUM Presidential Frolic'ng ,  8220
 
 About Cult in the TMO 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles in Rishikesh

2006-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
Kama Sutra movie

How they managed to make a movie with hot chicks in an exotic setting
almost unwatchable, was twisted artistic genius.  I came to the film
with every expectation of loving it, and I could barely finish the
film.   I forget if it was the mind numbingly stupid dialog that
ruined it for me, but I remember a throbbing between my temples
instead of further south while watching it that made me reach for the
remote.  Such a waste. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
  
   Mira Nair did Mississippi Masala and Monsoon Wedding, among 
   others

   Mira Nair film proposal revives interest in Beatles visit to 
   Rishikesh
  
  This almost certainly had to have come from an Indian 
  source, or it would have mentioned that she's also the
  director of Kama Sutra. It's one of the loveliest films
  ever, but was not received well in India (and in fact
  was prevented from being shown there in many locations).
  
  Fascinating to me that the country that invented the
  Kama Sutra is too prudish to deal with a film that
  has the same title and shows a little nudity. (Actually,
  it's the cross-caste sex that was probably taboo for them.)
  
  And re Shemp's suggestion that Kama Sutra was 
  soft-core porn, that comment reflects his 
  attitude towards sex, not the film's.
 
 
 
 Uh, no.  It's soft-core porn, period.  Good soft-core porn but porn 
 none-the-less.  Along the lines of David Hamilton films but even 
 more explicit than Hamilton and much more sex and nudity.
 
 And, hey, don't get me wrong.  As porn, I liked it...mostly lesbian 
 scenes.  But to call it art because of the Kama-Sutra theme is, 
 well, just silly.  Take out the sex scenes and it's not really such 
 a good movie.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-11-01 Thread Louis McKenzie


well if it was a name that meant something to you. but sometimes i do it in hope that the word gets out hey Louis was talking about you. I dont think I have said one thing bad about any woman, have I Anything I have said was lie saying oh man that lua lua was so GREAT. What someone adds to that has nothing to do with me does it? For the record the person just happened to be someone I repected a lot and loved without any other thing attached to it. Maybe it is a guy thing. Sorry if it offends anyone not my intent
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Louis, you like name dropping females. Isn't that sort of 'kiss and tell?'

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From: Louis McKenzie 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!


but they have strange ways. I can tell you a story if you like but its one that takes time. I will just say that some people will do anything to remain what they think is respect in ethiopian society.

I love ethiopian food. My favorite Ethiopian female friend is Marta Poulos a few different moves and I may have married that one.
- Original Message From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:20:11 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or three times actuallya few timesNice one Louis!The Ethiopian women I have met here are super welldressed and perfectly made up, (maintenance expectations seem high),and very insulated by their community ties. Look but don't touch rulesseemed to be in full force and effect.But those eyes...- Original Message  From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:29:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!   Shemp,  I just found your original post, nice one.  Robert Johnson from "Dust My Broom", 1936  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good
 gal over there, I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there, If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in Ethiopia somehwhere.  There are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I sing that lyric in Alexandria their heads whip around!I think they believe I am making it up on the spot to get their attention, but it is based on the idea that Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and were legendary way back in the 30's.   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@ wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"   curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Sal,  I think you are talking about Puris right?I don't mess with deep   fried stuff much myself.I am
 usually only cooking for one or two   so   it is too much trouble.I make flat breads on a nice thick pizza   stone, that makes a huge difference for all breads including   pizzas.I recently went to NYC to see how they make pizzas in the last few   remaining coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn is one.Coal cooks at   800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood oven.They get a   char on   the bread and I was chasing that flavor in my own oven.I figured   out   how to do it in my gas oven.I put the pizza stone on the bottom   of   the oven and crank it up to broil to pre-heat for almost an hour,Then I cook the thinly rolled pizza for about 5 minutes.After   that I   put
 it under the broiler to broil the top for another 3 minutes. I   swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal ovens!  I spend some time here in DC talking to traditional cooks about how   they make their foods.I find that it is the best way to start a   conversation with people from other cultures.Lately I am chasing   traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from Tev, millet flour. Ah, now you're talking about my favourite cuisine.I had heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20 years and never   bothered to try it.Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years ago and it instantly became   my favourite.Injera is incredible and although the restaurant I go   to offers meat dishes it just isn't
 necessary with all the wonderful   vegetarian dishes available in this cuisine.Making injera: yes, I've tried on two or three occasions to make it   myself.I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line and let me tell you:   it was incredibly difficult to make...not the mixing and fermenting   part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the actual making of the   crepe-like injera.And I thought making dosa was hard...it's a   cinch compared to injera.Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your experiences?Also, what ratio did you do the millet to tef...and did you mix the   millet in with the tef 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!

2006-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
but they have strange ways.   I can tell you a story if you like but
its one that takes time.  I will just say that some people will do
anything to remain what they think is respect in ethiopian society.
 
Excellent lead-in Louis, I'm all ears...




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 but they have strange ways.   I can tell you a story if you like but
its one that takes time.  I will just say that some people will do
anything to remain what they think is respect in ethiopian society.
 
 I love ethiopian food.  My favorite Ethiopian female friend is Marta
Poulos a few different moves and I may have married that one.
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:20:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
 
  I used to have an ethiopian girlfriend twice or three times actually
 a few times
 
 Nice one Louis!  The Ethiopian women I have met here are super well
 dressed and perfectly made up, (maintenance expectations seem high),
 and very insulated by their community ties. Look but don't touch rules
 seemed to be in full force and effect.  But those eyes...
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  - Original Message 
  From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:29:45 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mystery of injera!
  
  
  Shemp,
  
  I just found your original post, nice one.
  
  Robert Johnson from Dust My Broom, 1936
  
  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
  I'm gunna call up Chineee, see is my good gal over there,
  If she's not in the Philippine Islands, she must be in Ethiopia
  somehwhere.
  
  There are so many Ethiopians here that everytime I sing that lyric in
  Alexandria their heads whip around!  I think they believe I am making
  it up on the spot to get their attention, but it is based on the idea
  that Ethiopian woman are especially beautiful and were legendary way
  back in the 30's.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
Sal,

I think you are talking about Puris right?  I don't mess with deep
fried stuff much myself.  I am usually only cooking for one or
two 
   so
it is too much trouble.  I make flat breads on a nice thick pizza
stone, that makes a huge difference for all breads including 
   pizzas. 
I recently went to NYC to see how they make pizzas in the last few
remaining coal ovens, Grimaldi's in Brooklyn is one.  Coal
cooks at
800 degrees compared to about 600 for a wood oven.  They get a 
   char on
the bread and I was chasing that flavor in my own oven.  I
figured 
   out
how to do it in my gas oven.  I put the pizza stone on the bottom 
   of
the oven and crank it up to broil to pre-heat for almost an hour, 
Then I cook the thinly rolled pizza for about 5 minutes.  After 
   that I
put it under the broiler to broil the top for another 3 minutes. I
swear it is as good as any pizza in NYC's coal ovens!

I spend some time here in DC talking to traditional cooks
about how
they make their foods.  I find that it is the best way to start a
conversation with people from other cultures.  Lately I am chasing
traditional Ethiopian Injera bread made from Tev, millet flour. 
   
   
   
   Ah, now you're talking about my favourite cuisine.
   
   I had heard of Ethiopian cuisine for over 20 years and never 
   bothered to try it.
   
   Well, I was dragged to one about 5 years ago and it instantly
became 
   my favourite.  Injera is incredible and although the restaurant
I go 
   to offers meat dishes it just isn't necessary with all the
wonderful 
   vegetarian dishes available in this cuisine.
   
   Making injera: yes, I've tried on two or three occasions to make it 
   myself.  I bought a whole bunch of tef on-line and let me tell you: 
   it was incredibly difficult to make...not the mixing and fermenting 
   part (which took about 2 or 3 days) but the actual making of the 
   crepe-like injera.  And I thought making dosa was hard...it's a 
   cinch compared to injera.
   
   Have you tried it yet? If so, what were your experiences?
   
   Also, what ratio did you do the millet to tef...and did you mix the 
   millet in with the tef before the fermenting (I assume you did)?
   
   I've become quite friendly with the owner of the Ethiopian who owns 
   the restaurant I frequent.  He has an almost religious
dedication to 
   tef, which he claims is the most complete grain on the planet (hey, 
   all those gold-winning Ethiopian long-distance runners all grew up 
   on it, so there's gotta be something to it!).
   
   All I know is, I can have a 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread llundrub





Oh Louis, were you on THP?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Louis McKenzie 
  
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another 
  corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
  
  
  I 
  read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say 
  that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have 
  known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they 
  have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they 
  just did not understand that it was just time to move on. 
  You 
  expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does 
  not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came 
  and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live 
  in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in the 
  pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot to 
  talk about.
  
  Have 
  you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most 
  contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about 
  you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household 
  name. Then you will know that you are a success.Well 
  Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David and 
  Earl I think I went toDavid'sfirst wedding, I really liked them 
  both because I could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on 
  courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were 
  contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at 
  school anytime and be allowed to attend. 
  
  Imagine 
  if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no 
  MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and acted 
  just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be in an 
  all out nuclear war.  This is life without 
  Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say 
  whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever it 
  is he brought to the world.
  
  I 
  admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. 
  In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to 
  develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune 
  up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I 
  understand that experience. It takes great effort and sacrifice to make 
  major impact. Even one may fail or succeed this doesn't really have 
  anything to do with it. Impact is felt in the effort. Every 
  action has an effect on world consciousness, a thought introduced by Einstein 
  yet demonstrated by Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I do not know 
  if Einstein would be understood. 
  
  As 
  for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi. There 
  are people who think that if he shits he is not a true rishi. I 
  have seen a small glimpse of what happens. I have seen what it is 
  like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so wonderful when he is on 
  top. Then when an eb comes he is a crook, a liar a thief, a child 
  molester, a rapist. I was once at Agape church in California and a 
  guy who thought of himself as a psychic was telling people all he knew about 
  me. 
  
  He 
  told them that I raped women at MIU. That I busted into their rooms and 
  raped them. I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life forced a 
  woman, to have sex if she did not want to. At MIU I had very 
  little sex. Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me anyone 
  African American who had beensomewhat popular in the TM/Art of living 
  circles.. He caused a lot of negativity. But I thought he was the 
  most stupid pretender on the planet. Another time I was with a 
  bigot who pretended to be psychic in greece, in a restaurant. She says 
  watch your purses everyone Louis might steal one. I thought what a 
  stupid person. People do and say all kinds of things reflective of who 
  they think theyare. As a person of color people are even 
  more apt to believe the bull than one of non color. Michael 
  Jackson is a child molester no matter what the jury voted, OJ Simpson is a 
  murderor, Nelson Mandela is not a great leader but a killer as one 15 year old 
  south african brazilian white skinned girl told me. 
  
  In 
  the end Maharish might end up living in a cave penniless and with not one 
  follower. Thank God he may not live that long. But this is just 
  what happens. Loyalty is as good as one's ability to keep you 
  loyal. I was in greece for an LRT related program. As 
  my life goes I was doing something that I did not have the money to do. 
  The program was expensive. I got myself and two others through it. 
  Yet what people chose to talk about was that I might steal because I said that 
  when I was a child I stole from my uncle's money cabinet. 
  
  If 
  I could have 

Re: [FairfieldLife] More Pandits ....

2006-11-01 Thread llundrub
I'm ready to blow my conch!

Halleluyah! Children of the Lord, Halleluyah!


- Original Message - 
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] More Pandits 


 From a friend:
 
 
 
 Today, we heard that 50 more Pandits arrived on campus last night...
 they were lovingly, joyfully greeted with the same conch blowing and
 bag-pipes as the first group


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread llundrub





make stinking horrible farts and stink even with deodorant. Or 
even worse maybe be a cocaine freak.

Maharishi is perfect because he is who he is. You and I are perfect 
to. The problem is not in Maharishi's lack of appreciation of our 
perfection. The problem is our own lack of appreciation of 
ourselves. When I see my virtue I can not help but be 
grateful. WHen I see my lack I understand my resentment. 
WHen I see my failure I understand my blame, when I see my success I understand 
my courage. When I see my love of humanity I understand that I have been 
loved. More than I love Maharishi I give thanks that Maharishi loved 
me. 

---Amen Brother. 

Round and round and round some more. 
Yep, needed that, to get over about ten acid bad trips when I was 
thirteen, fourteen years old. People on THP used to think I was special being a 
devoted meditator on student purusha when I was eighteen or something, but the 
fact was that the damage was pretty spectacular as well. Wasn't really that I 
had some hidden depth due to early devotionalism. Though I healed finally being 
on student THP. A bit too much. Finally thought I was gonna explode. Had 
to get back to the world. Retire from this, retire from this retiring. Until ya 
die!

Yeah, crack is bad, friend right now 
in jail for possession. Needed him at work. Hope he learns something. Lots of 
other friends on dope. Weed=Okay. Not possible to be cooking 
otherwise

TM is better stoned 
anyway.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread dhamiltony2k5
assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace 
  indefinitely, even YOUR 
   assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in 
 order 
  to make certain projects 
   happen--doesn't hold.
   
Foreign mercenaries
yes, unable to rally and bring in sufficient 'ME' numbers from the 
meditating community/old TM movement, MMY  the family evidently are 
spending some of their horded money to hire these pundit boys as 
foreign mercenaries. It must have been a very painful decision to 
have to spend their money this way.

Recalling the recent sequence of events, start by remembering 
Maharishi's call to action:

MMY's Call to action; July 2006
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974

Except, ejected August 2006
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/107519

 
Except rejected, August 2006
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/108879

Rejected: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/108731

Yogic flyer ad, 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/117667

Des Moines Reg. 8-2006 article, 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/119862

Can't find, the 190 Million. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/117466

Invincible America Course 10-2006; 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/120103

Can't get the numbers needed Oct 2006:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/113629


-Doug in FF

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
 wrote:
 
  Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I 
 might learn some things.
 
 
 
 
 Let me see if I understand this right.  You want to be around 
 Maharishi because you respect him as a business man because he 
 charged $1 million per person for the course?
 
 And you want to learn from that?
 
 What, how to charge exhorbitant amounts of money for courses that 
30 
 years ago went for, literally 1/1,000 of that cost?
 
 
 
 
 
 
   I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I 
 would like to see if he can be that way without emotion
  
  
  - Original Message 
  From: shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:16:46 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the 
Indian 
 TMO are a bunch of thugs
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
  wrote:
  
   When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought 
 wow 
  what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million 
dollars 
  to be close to him for a month.  YES
  
  
  
  Why?
  
  Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him?
  
  If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very 
 Master 
  you purport to follow because your Master has already told you 
 that 
  the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does 
not 
  include guru worship.
  
  
  
   
   
   - Original Message 
   From: sparaig sparaig@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the 
 Indian 
  TMO are a bunch of thugs
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
  dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
'Untrustworthy'.  Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' 
 biz 
  and 
what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become 
untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what 
it 
  was 
in this 1974 quote below.  It's what it has become 
evidently: 
untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. 

Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of 
  Maharishi, 
as a teacher or his teaching or business 
 man?  'Untrustworthy'?  
Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show 
 up.  
  The 
Maharishi Effect?  What to do to right things with folks and 
  bring 
them back?
   
   People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on 
 because 
  they were offended, 
   for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's 
 place 
  to try to hold onto people. 
   And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits 
inplace 
  indefinitely, even YOUR 
   assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in 
 order 
  to make certain projects 
   happen--doesn't hold.
   





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[FairfieldLife] Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by

2006-11-01 Thread llundrub
Humans Affected by

Greed, ignorance, lust, hate, and so on just like regular folk. 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 
 I listened to the beginning of the recording and it is interesting  
 because he seems to have actually improved on TM and the siddhi  
 portion as he seems to be using a more appropriate pre-siddhi  
 technique. I bet he gets less side effects the way he seems to be  
 doing it. Can you say which siddhis he is doing? Is he promoting  
 yogic flying? I am interested if he is using the Patanjali sutra that  
 actually is said to engender peace in the environment which is not  
 used in the TMSP.


Interesting. I had the exact opposite reaction: how superficial!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles in Rishikesh

2006-11-01 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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 Kama Sutra movie
 
 How they managed to make a movie with hot chicks in an exotic setting
 almost unwatchable, was twisted artistic genius.  I came to the film
 with every expectation of loving it, and I could barely finish the
 film.   I forget if it was the mind numbingly stupid dialog that
 ruined it for me, but I remember a throbbing between my temples
 instead of further south while watching it that made me reach for the
 remote.  Such a waste. 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
   
Mira Nair did Mississippi Masala and Monsoon Wedding, among 
others
 
Mira Nair film proposal revives interest in Beatles visit to 
Rishikesh
   
   This almost certainly had to have come from an Indian 
   source, or it would have mentioned that she's also the
   director of Kama Sutra. It's one of the loveliest films
   ever, but was not received well in India (and in fact
   was prevented from being shown there in many locations).
   
   Fascinating to me that the country that invented the
   Kama Sutra is too prudish to deal with a film that
   has the same title and shows a little nudity. (Actually,
   it's the cross-caste sex that was probably taboo for them.)
   
   And re Shemp's suggestion that Kama Sutra was 
   soft-core porn, that comment reflects his 
   attitude towards sex, not the film's.
  
  
  
  Uh, no.  It's soft-core porn, period.  Good soft-core porn but porn 
  none-the-less.  Along the lines of David Hamilton films but even 
  more explicit than Hamilton and much more sex and nudity.
  
  And, hey, don't get me wrong.  As porn, I liked it...mostly lesbian 
  scenes.  But to call it art because of the Kama-Sutra theme is, 
  well, just silly.  Take out the sex scenes and it's not really such 
  a good movie.

All of Nair's films attempt to expose some social ill or prejudice,
esp those tolerated in Indian culture.  I think as someone here
suggested that in Kama Sutra she was going after inter-caste relations
esp sexually and perhaps current India's tendency towards puritanism.
 I think this was one of her clumsier films but still one of her
typical attempts of breaking social boundaries and certainly not an
attempt at porn.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
snip
 
 TM is better stoned anyway.

Hey kirk, you're not supposed to reveal the advanced techniques.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by

2006-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
Speaking up for lust, I don't think you should should include that
sweet young thing with those other thugs...


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 Humans Affected by
 
 Greed, ignorance, lust, hate, and so on just like regular folk.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
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[...]

I apologize to everyone for feeding the troll. Yesterday, I only had 2 hours 
sleep and then was 
so wired that I forgot to meditate. My OCD tends to flare up in such 
circumstances...

 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace 
   indefinitely, even YOUR 
assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in 
  order 
   to make certain projects 
happen--doesn't hold.

 Foreign mercenaries
 yes, unable to rally and bring in sufficient 'ME' numbers from the 
 meditating community/old TM movement, MMY  the family evidently are 
 spending some of their horded money to hire these pundit boys as 
 foreign mercenaries. It must have been a very painful decision to 
 have to spend their money this way.


This is projection on your part. Certainly, we know, both from the series of 
photographs 
posted here many times, and from Indian newspaper articles about the legal 
complications 
that other such large TM facilities in India ran into a few years ago, that 
large sums of 
money have been spent to build places for the pundits to stay and do their 
thing. Your 
suggestion that it all (or some large sum) goes to Maharishi's family is sorta 
like the claim 
that you and others make that THIS is MMY's family compound:

 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/

 
 Recalling the recent sequence of events, start by remembering 
 Maharishi's call to action:





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread llundrub

 Hey kirk, you're not supposed to reveal the advanced techniques.

---Of Mahakali?


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by

2006-11-01 Thread llundrub
Except that for many it leads to the others.

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 Speaking up for lust, I don't think you should should include that
 sweet young thing with those other thugs...
 
 
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 Humans Affected by
 
 Greed, ignorance, lust, hate, and so on just like regular folk.

 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I read all of those things letters websites you name it..  Yet I can 
say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure 
I have known Earl and David since we were kids.   With all the money 
they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it 
that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on.   
snip

Hi Louis, Thanks for posting this! It is what FFL is here for- to 
balance our inner dialogue with outward activity in a forum that at 
least agrees such inner dialogue is a necessary component of our 
identity.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's new book

2006-11-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   Borders, and Barnes and Noble United States bookstore chains 
have 
   both selected three-time Oscar-nominated director David 
Lynch's 
  soon-
   to-be-released new book, 'Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, 
   Consciousness, and Creativity' (Tarcher/Penguin) for a special 
  sales 
   promotion in more than 1,600 stores throughout the US. 
   
   The book, which can currently be pre-ordered at Amazon.com, 
   officially goes on sale December 28th and will be prominently 
   showcased, from January 1 to 29, on sales tables in the front 
 area 
  of 
   every single Borders, Barnes  Noble, and Walden book stores 
in 
  the 
   nation, as well as hundreds of independent book stores. 
 
 *
 
  Sounds great, but I wonder why it isn't going on sale *before* 
  Christmas?
 
 
 ***
 
 It may be that booksellers would regard the book as less likely to 
 sell as a Christmas gift, but it's actually better for Lynch if it 
 goes on sale after Xmas, because the bookstores will be flooded 
with 
 people who got giftcards as gifts, instead of going through all 
the 
 hassle of mailing books which the recipient may not want anyway.

Good point. I hadn't thought of that- That such a personal book may 
be better promoted when people can directly buy it vs. being given 
something that the giver may be interested in, but not necessarily 
the recipient.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
 [...]
 
 I apologize to everyone for feeding the troll.
  Yesterday, I only had 2 hours sleep and then was 
 so wired that I forgot to meditate. 
 My OCD tends to flare up in such circumstances...

Namaste Sir LawsonJi..,i humbily accept your apology.
You are- (as my kids used to say) *Off The Hook*..
The day before you made accusations of- 
 me and Sri Swami Swaroopanand Saraswati Ji were attempting to 
undermine the tmo pundit project.

Think you can stay on-topic today?

If so here is my assessment of the tmo pundit project..
First, lets have a look at the recent photo of the tmo pundits 
arrival in America..
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/2581?c=

Well Sir LawsonJi...i must politely point out that--
1. ***none of the tmo pundits are wearing the traditional orche
(orange) kurti/dhotis of the *BRAHMIN SHANKARYACHARYA TRADITION*!!..
Not one single tmo pandit has taken sanyas diksha in the
Shankaracharya Tradition!!***
Look at the old photos of-- Sri Vhibuushiit Jyosimutt Shankaracharya
Swami Brahmanand Saraswati..., He is wearing the orange dhoti
indicating He has taken sanyas diksha in the Shankaracharya
Tradition!!

And, from the pictures you directed us to in your post regarding 
the pundit compound in India.., none of the pundits were any 
orange kurtas/dhotis in those photos either!!..all ARE WEARING 
SIMPLE WHITE KURTAS/DHOTIS!!
 
Now to the indian tmo pundit compound and the pundits..
2. if you choose to look at the recent violent events in India with
regards to the Tamil Tigers in the South India, and the Islamic
terrorists in North India  and Kashmir.., i would guess the tmo
pandits as trained by Brahmachari Mahesh are not doing a very good
job in preventing wars...in there own country.

So, in a cursory view i would say the *Anticipated Results* of Dr.
John Hagelin are not going to happen as a direct result of the tmo
pundit project...

And, as a side note--i just dont see how your OCD tangents in this
thread regarding Hindu pundits is any related to tmo pundits as
we were led to believe that the tmo /tm/pandits, etc are *NON-
religious* in nature!!.

Think you need your meds tweeked?







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread Louis McKenzie


What is THP?
- Original Message From: llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:57:19 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs


Oh Louis, were you on THP?

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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs


I read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on. 
You expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot to talk about.

Have you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household name. Then you will know that you are a success.Well Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David and Earl I think I went toDavid'sfirst wedding, I really liked them both because I could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at school anytime and be allowed to attend. 

Imagine if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be in an all out nuclear war.  This is life without Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever it is he brought to the world.

I admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I understand that experience. It takes great effort and sacrifice to make major impact. Even one may fail or succeed this doesn't really have anything to do with it. Impact is felt in the effort. Every action has an effect on world consciousness, a thought introduced by Einstein yet demonstrated by Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I do not know if Einstein would be understood. 

As for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi. There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true rishi. I have seen a small glimpse of what happens. I have seen what it is like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so wonderful when he is on top. Then when an eb comes he is a crook, a liar a thief, a child molester, a rapist. I was once at Agape church in California and a guy who thought of himself as a psychic was telling people all he knew about me. 

He told them that I raped women at MIU. That I busted into their rooms and raped them. I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life forced a woman, to have sex if she did not want to. At MIU I had very little sex. Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me anyone African American who had beensomewhat popular in the TM/Art of living circles.. He caused a lot of negativity. But I thought he was the most stupid pretender on the planet. Another time I was with a bigot who pretended to be psychic in greece, in a restaurant. She says watch your purses everyone Louis might steal one. I thought what a stupid person. People do and say all kinds of things reflective of who they think theyare. As a person of color people are even more apt to believe the bull than one of non color.
 Michael Jackson is a child molester no matter what the jury voted, OJ Simpson is a murderor, Nelson Mandela is not a great leader but a killer as one 15 year old south african brazilian white skinned girl told me. 

In the end Maharish might end up living in a cave penniless and with not one follower. Thank God he may not live that long. But this is just what happens. Loyalty is as good as one's ability to keep you loyal. I was in greece for an LRT related program. As my life goes I was doing something that I did not have the money to do. The program was expensive. I got myself and two others through it. Yet what people chose to talk about was that I might steal because I said that when I was a child I stole from my uncle's money cabinet. 

If I could have 1/1000th of the positive impact 

Re: [FairfieldLife] There's just no pleasing these people...

2006-11-01 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote:
 TM isn't the only thing parents at this school complain about...

 http://www.marinij.com/marin/ci_4578496



   
You've never been to Marin?  :)




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
 I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much 
 sports in this country.  That's because it diverts attention 
 from the rich who are destroying the middle class.  Maybe we 
 should have a football game with the middle class against the 
 rich to see who wins.  :)
   
 The rich would win every time, as long as there
 are referees. Every referee can be bribed, and
 pretty much every rich person would think of 
 bribing them, whereas most middle class would
 neither think of it or have the resources to
 do it effectively.  :-)
 

 Besides, sadly, in most of America the rich would
 actually be in better physical shape than the middle
 class. The rich spend several days a week at their
 gyms, so that they can look good at society functions
 and keep their required corporate health insurance
 premiums fairly low. The most exercise that many 
 middle class have had in recent years is mowing the
 lawn and doing biceps curls with a sixpack of beer. 
I would think the middle class might be more brutal than the rich might 
like so they would be afraid of them.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index, to FFL

2006-11-01 Thread shempmcgurk
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[snip]

Yet even the CIA could not find the info that these guys have found 
and they could not destroy MMY

[snip}

Louis: what exactly are you referring to regarding the CIA and the TMO 
and MMY?

What, specifically, has the CIA done?




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[FairfieldLife] Hi from Kami to Fairfield friends

2006-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hi to old friends! I am married with a seven year old daughter and I
teach middle school English and drama outside Philadelphia now. I love
teaching because I feel like I use every skill that I ever learned,
including improvisational theater, which I learned in Fairfield. I
miss all my friends from Fairfield, but I get updates from friends I
still stay in touch with. I especially loved the camaraderie of being
a tech at the clinic. I check in on the Fairfield Life group now and
then, but I haven't had the nerve to post anything. I love reading
your posts though!

Kami

PS: I would be happy to exchange emails with anyone who wants to chat
more.  Curtis will forward them from his yahoo account.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 What is THP?
 

Many will tell you that it stands for the Thousand Headed Purusha 
course but acronymfinder.com will tell you otherwise:

  ** THP Timber Harvest Plan
  ** THP Tennessee Highway Patrol
  ** THP Tetrahydropyran
   THP Tomlinson-Harashima Precoding
   THP Take Home Package (lessons learned and 
recommendations resulting from military exercise)
   THP Thrust Horsepower (engine power rating)
   THP The Harlem Project
  *** THP Traffic Handling Priority
  *** THP Texaco Heritage Plaza
  *** THP Terminal to Host Protocol
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 - Original Message 
 From: llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:57:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the 
Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
 
 
 Oh Louis, were you on THP?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Louis McKenzie 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the 
Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
 
 
 I read all of those things letters websites you name it..  Yet I 
can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) 
Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids.   With all 
the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I 
would take it that they just did not understand that it was just 
time to move on.   
 You expect him to be what we are not.  You expect some perfection 
that does not exist anywhere.   The perfection of Maharishi is that 
he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the 
world we live in.  I feel for the better.   We should be blessed to 
be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason 
he gives a lot to talk about.
  
 Have you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are 
also the most contraversial.   Someone once said that the more 
people talk about you, the more you should smile let them talk until 
you become a household name.   Then you will know that you are a 
success. Well Maharishi has been a success over and over again.   I 
knew David and Earl I think I went to David's first wedding, I 
really liked them both because I could not always tell the 
difference.  They both stayed on courses and also stayed in deep 
water.  Some would say they were contraversial, because they had a 
tendancy to think they could show up at school anytime and be 
allowed to attend.  
  
 Imagine if they never meditated.  Imagine if there was no tm, no 
punditji, no MIU, just plain old Christianity.   Imagine if you 
thought and acted just like George Bush.  Imagine a world where by 
now we would be in an all out nuclear war.  This is life without 
Maharishi.  I need to write this one for me.   People can say 
whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring 
whatever it is he brought to the world.
  
 I admire people with courage.   I have courage because of 
Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up.   He allowed 
me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision.  He 
created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the 
field.   I understand that experience.  It takes great effort and 
sacrifice to make major impact.  Even one may fail or succeed this 
doesn't really have anything to do with it.   Impact is felt in the 
effort.  Every action has an effect on world consciousness, a 
thought introduced by Einstein yet demonstrated by Maharishi.   If 
not for Maharishi I do not know if Einstein would be understood.   
  
 As for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi.   
There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true 
rishi.   I have seen a small glimpse of what happens.   I have seen 
what it is like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so wonderful 
when he is on top.   Then when an eb comes he is a crook, a liar a 
thief, a child molester, a rapist.   I was once at Agape church in 
California and a guy who thought of himself as a psychic was telling 
people all he knew about me.  
  
 He told them that I raped women at MIU.  That I busted into their 
rooms and raped them.  I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life 
forced a woman, to have sex if she did not want to.   At MIU I had 
very little sex.   Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me 
anyone African American who had been somewhat popular in the TM/Art 
of living circles..  He caused a lot of negativity.  But I thought 
he was the most stupid pretender on the planet.   Another time I was 
with a bigot who pretended to be psychic in greece, in a 
restaurant.  She says watch your purses everyone Louis might steal 
one.   I thought what a stupid 

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2006-11-01 Thread najmeh omidi


i want to be member in ur group and i want ti active it

thanks with best regards 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by

2006-11-01 Thread Dharma Mitra




And that lust may be causative, though does not necessarily have to be, of expending so much energy outside of aparigraha that it makes the struggle against the demonic influenceof the other vritiismuch weaker or even to cease, surrender to the others.
I would vigorously add the beast of avarice, for it all too often passes for santosha and includes the subvritii of complacency, each of which negate dharma.


Three-fourths of all the pain and suffering people experience in life are due to the pleasures others derive in inflicting it upon them. I want every person to be complete in themselves.Your himsa has no place in my mission.
  
Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is 
a moral conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a menace to society.




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Except that for many it leads to the others.- Original Message -From: curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by Speaking up for lust, I don't think you should should include that sweet young thing with those other thugs...
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Humans Affected by Greed, ignorance, lust, hate, and so on just like regular folk.


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[FairfieldLife] I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread shempmcgurk





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[FairfieldLife] Re: A fools Paradise.

2006-11-01 Thread nablusos108
At the brink of self-destruction, about to drown in the blood of it's 
own karma, America was rescued by Maharishi, some Pundits and a few 
wise and wealthy americans. 

In Europe we tend to look upon the americans as simple, even stupid. 
Just look at their shortsighted and agressive foreign-policy causing 
nothing than misery and tension.

But many, many americans, millions, are not evil. I have lived there, 
I know that. 

The government is evil, the president is a fool and a puppet. 
Rove/Rumsfelt et.al is running the country. 

Then again the government is only a reflection of the collective 
consciousness. As the americans say: go figure.

So America was saved, probably, hopefully for all times to come with 
the blessings of Maharishi and The Masters.

But who will save FFL ? 

With moderators allowing liars, professional negativists, compulsive 
neurotic posters, hordes of alt.med's, Dr's posing as intelligent and 
normal; what do we have ? Page up and down with gossip, lies, 
recepies, thoughts on Ethiopian women, cynism, halloween etcetc, 
etcetc.

A few honorable exceptions, among a few others: Bob Brigante and Jim 
Flanegin. Always found your writings sound and interesting !

I used to read perhaps 60% of the postings here, now it is down to 
5%, maximum. Many good writers have left this board, for good reason.

FFL is quickly dying, suffocating in it's own filth. And don't rely 
on Maharishi to save it :-)

A herewith make a suggestion; change the description of this board 
from spiritual to a fools paradise.

The times they are a'changing. 

Unfortunately, the majority of the posters on FFL are not.


For the time being; Adios





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by

2006-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And that lust may be causative, though does not necessarily have to
be, of
 expending so much energy outside of aparigraha that it makes the
struggle
 against the demonic influence of the other vritiis much weaker or
even to
 cease, surrender to the others.

I gotta say if you are getting invaded by demons after boning, then
you might be sleeping with the wrong chick.  Just a thought.  With the
right partner it leads to all the benefits promised by TM.  World
peace conceived!





 
 I would vigorously add the beast of avarice, for it all too often
passes for
 santosha and includes the subvritii of complacency, each of which negate
 dharma.
 
 
 Three-fourths of all the pain and suffering people experience in
life are
 due to the pleasures others derive in inflicting it upon them.  I
want every
 person to be complete in themselves.  Your himsa has no place in my
mission.
   Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most
valuable
 thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such
 persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. *Anything less is a
menace
 to society.*
 
 
 
 
 On 11/1/06, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Except that for many it leads to the others.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:27 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by
 
 
   Speaking up for lust, I don't think you should should include that
   sweet young thing with those other thugs...
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub llundrub@ wrote:
  
   Humans Affected by
  
   Greed, ignorance, lust, hate, and so on just like regular folk.
 
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread jim_flanegin
November 7th is coming up- We will see.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles in Rishikesh

2006-11-01 Thread Louis McKenzie


According to Earl Kaplan's letter that was probably due to delusion of refinement of your nervous system.
- Original Message From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:42:45 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles in Rishikesh
Kama Sutra movieHow they managed to make a movie with hot chicks in an exotic settingalmost unwatchable, was twisted artistic genius.I came to the filmwith every expectation of loving it, and I could barely finish thefilm. I forget if it was the mind numbingly stupid dialog thatruined it for me, but I remember a throbbing between my templesinstead of further south while watching it that made me reach for theremote.Such a waste. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@  wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Mira Nair did Mississippi Masala and Monsoon Wedding, amongothers Mira Nair
 film proposal revives interest in Beatles visit toRishikeshThis almost certainly had to have come from an Indian   source, or it would have mentioned that she's also the  director of Kama Sutra. It's one of the loveliest films  ever, but was not received well in India (and in fact  was prevented from being shown there in many locations).Fascinating to me that the country that invented the  Kama Sutra is too prudish to deal with a film that  has the same title and shows a little nudity. (Actually,  it's the cross-caste sex that was probably taboo for them.)And re Shemp's suggestion that Kama Sutra was   "soft-core porn," that comment reflects his   attitude towards sex, not the film's.Uh, no.It's soft-core porn,
 period.Good soft-core porn but porn  none-the-less.Along the lines of David Hamilton films but even  more explicit than Hamilton and much more sex and nudity.  And, hey, don't get me wrong.As porn, I liked it...mostly lesbian  scenes.But to call it "art" because of the Kama-Sutra theme is,  well, just silly.Take out the sex scenes and it's not really such  a good movie.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread Peter
Ha! That's a great response. But Carry was making a
clever joke about Bush's poor academic performance and
being stuck in Iraq. Its actually a clever joke and
I can't really believe that people authentically
believe it is some sort of put-down of our troops. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: A fools Paradise.

2006-11-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 At the brink of self-destruction, about to drown in the blood of 
it's 
 own karma, America was rescued by Maharishi, some Pundits and a few 
 wise and wealthy americans. 
 
Hi Nablus, thanks for the complement and welcome back any time! And 
don't be overly concerned about the naysayers here (I don't count Dr. 
Pete among them by the way- he is a good guy). Just take their words 
as an affirmation of your Self-realization. 
 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: A fools Paradise.

2006-11-01 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 At the brink of self-destruction, about to drown in the blood of it's 
 own karma, America was rescued by Maharishi, some Pundits and a few 
 wise and wealthy americans. 
 
 In Europe we tend to look upon the americans as simple, even stupid. 
 Just look at their shortsighted and agressive foreign-policy causing 
 nothing than misery and tension.
 
 But many, many americans, millions, are not evil. I have lived there, 
 I know that. 
 
 The government is evil, the president is a fool and a puppet. 
 Rove/Rumsfelt et.al is running the country. 
 
 Then again the government is only a reflection of the collective 
 consciousness. As the americans say: go figure.
 
 So America was saved, probably, hopefully for all times to come with 
 the blessings of Maharishi and The Masters.
 
 But who will save FFL ? 
 
 With moderators allowing liars, professional negativists, compulsive 
 neurotic posters, hordes of alt.med's, Dr's posing as intelligent and 
 normal; what do we have ? Page up and down with gossip, lies, 
 recepies, thoughts on Ethiopian women, cynism, halloween etcetc, 
 etcetc.
 
 A few honorable exceptions, among a few others: Bob Brigante and Jim 
 Flanegin. Always found your writings sound and interesting !
 
 I used to read perhaps 60% of the postings here, now it is down to 
 5%, maximum. Many good writers have left this board, for good reason.
 
 FFL is quickly dying, suffocating in it's own filth. And don't rely 
 on Maharishi to save it :-)
 
 A herewith make a suggestion; change the description of this board 
 from spiritual to a fools paradise.
 
 The times they are a'changing. 
 
 Unfortunately, the majority of the posters on FFL are not.
 
Hey Nab, 

  I usually try to refraim from personal and political comments on FFL
. But after alternately reading and skipping yours for some time, I do
have one personal comment:

 
 For the time being; Adios


Good, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

JohnY




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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread authfriend
You *do* know Kerry wasn't referring to the troops
per se, don't you?  He was referring to Bush having
gotten us--the country--stuck in Iraq because he
failed to take advantage of his education and never
learned how to think analytically or to be curious
enough to inform himself.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: A fools Paradise.

2006-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
You set the bar for positivity and spirituality pretty high there, so
I'm not surprised that many of the rest of us have trouble keeping up.

My favorite lines:

With moderators allowing liars, professional negativists,
(who is getting paid for this, I want in)

(snip)
Dr's posing as intelligent and  normal;
He, he, he, Dr. Pete got busted for posing as normal!

 what do we have ? Page up and down with gossip, lies,
 recepies, thoughts on Ethiopian women, cynism, halloween etcetc,
 etcetc.

That list is so not Brahman.  Feeling a little special today, are we?





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 At the brink of self-destruction, about to drown in the blood of it's 
 own karma, America was rescued by Maharishi, some Pundits and a few 
 wise and wealthy americans. 
 
 In Europe we tend to look upon the americans as simple, even stupid. 
 Just look at their shortsighted and agressive foreign-policy causing 
 nothing than misery and tension.
 
 But many, many americans, millions, are not evil. I have lived there, 
 I know that. 
 
 The government is evil, the president is a fool and a puppet. 
 Rove/Rumsfelt et.al is running the country. 
 
 Then again the government is only a reflection of the collective 
 consciousness. As the americans say: go figure.
 
 So America was saved, probably, hopefully for all times to come with 
 the blessings of Maharishi and The Masters.
 
 But who will save FFL ? 
 
 With moderators allowing liars, professional negativists, compulsive 
 neurotic posters, hordes of alt.med's, Dr's posing as intelligent and 
 normal; what do we have ? Page up and down with gossip, lies, 
 recepies, thoughts on Ethiopian women, cynism, halloween etcetc, 
 etcetc.
 
 A few honorable exceptions, among a few others: Bob Brigante and Jim 
 Flanegin. Always found your writings sound and interesting !
 
 I used to read perhaps 60% of the postings here, now it is down to 
 5%, maximum. Many good writers have left this board, for good reason.
 
 FFL is quickly dying, suffocating in it's own filth. And don't rely 
 on Maharishi to save it :-)
 
 A herewith make a suggestion; change the description of this board 
 from spiritual to a fools paradise.
 
 The times they are a'changing. 
 
 Unfortunately, the majority of the posters on FFL are not.
 
 
 For the time being; Adios






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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Ha! That's a great response. But Carry was making a
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 being stuck in Iraq. Its actually a clever joke and
 I can't really believe that people authentically
 believe it is some sort of put-down of our troops. 


Well, I guess as far as the people in that photo go, those troops 
certainly feel that way.



 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
   http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
  
   Recalling the recent sequence of events, start by remembering 
   Maharishi's call to action:
 
 Intersting that final photo was of Girish Varma..any relation to --
 Mishmashi brahmachari Prasad Varma Mahesh, and his uncle Raj Varma?
 
 Lets see..Uh.., yes!!
 
 So how many of these photos were doctored using Adobe Photoshop or 
 similar such software?
 
 (i can spot at least 5)


So which ones, besides the panoramas?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: hello

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, najmeh omidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i want to be member in ur group and i want ti active it
 
 thanks with best regards 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
Feeding the trolls again...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  sparaig wrote:
   coldbluiceman wrote:
  [...]
  
  I apologize to everyone for feeding the troll.
   Yesterday, I only had 2 hours sleep and then was 
  so wired that I forgot to meditate. 
  My OCD tends to flare up in such circumstances...
 
 Namaste Sir LawsonJi..,i humbily accept your apology.
 You are- (as my kids used to say) *Off The Hook*..
 The day before you made accusations of- 
  me and Sri Swami Swaroopanand Saraswati Ji were attempting to 
 undermine the tmo pundit project.
 
 Think you can stay on-topic today?
 
 If so here is my assessment of the tmo pundit project..
 First, lets have a look at the recent photo of the tmo pundits 
 arrival in America..
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/2581?c=
 
 Well Sir LawsonJi...i must politely point out that--
 1. ***none of the tmo pundits are wearing the traditional orche
 (orange) kurti/dhotis of the *BRAHMIN SHANKARYACHARYA TRADITION*!!..
 Not one single tmo pandit has taken sanyas diksha in the
 Shankaracharya Tradition!!***

So pandits/pundits must all be sanyasin? It would be kinda hard to organize and 
daily 
participate in mass yagyas involving hundreds or thousands of fellow 
renunciates if you 
were a medicant monk, I think...

Come to think of it, if all pundits must be sanyasin, where do little pundits 
come from and 
who teaches them, by the hundreds or thousands? Certainly not their fellow 
renunciates 
because that would be, well, wordly of them...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 You *do* know Kerry wasn't referring to the troops
 per se, don't you?  He was referring to Bush having
 gotten us--the country--stuck in Iraq because he
 failed to take advantage of his education and never
 learned how to think analytically or to be curious
 enough to inform himself.


That's not how I took the comment.  When I read it, I thought: 
that's weird; Kerry is having a flashback to the '60s when there was 
a draft and if one didn't stay in school (and get what I think they 
called back then an academic deferment) one faced getting drafted.

So it didn't make sense when I read it, but that's how I interpreted 
it.  Especially in light of other comments that I have read about 
the Iraq war coming from other politicians that were a flashback to 
the Vietnam era.  For example I think it was Charles Rangel (but I'm 
not 100% sure) who said that the Iraq war was discriminative because 
there was, like Vietnam, a disproportionately high number of 
minorities who served (which may be true for Iraq but wasn't for 
Vietnam, despite the myth that was built up that that was the case).




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TurquoiseB wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
  I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much 
  sports in this country.  That's because it diverts attention 
  from the rich who are destroying the middle class.  Maybe we 
  should have a football game with the middle class against the 
  rich to see who wins.  :)

  The rich would win every time, as long as there
  are referees. Every referee can be bribed, and
  pretty much every rich person would think of 
  bribing them, whereas most middle class would
  neither think of it or have the resources to
  do it effectively.  :-)
  
 
  Besides, sadly, in most of America the rich would
  actually be in better physical shape than the middle
  class. The rich spend several days a week at their
  gyms, so that they can look good at society functions
  and keep their required corporate health insurance
  premiums fairly low. The most exercise that many 
  middle class have had in recent years is mowing the
  lawn and doing biceps curls with a sixpack of beer. 
 I would think the middle class might be more brutal than the rich might 
 like so they would be afraid of them.


I think its the other way around. The rich generally don't get or stay rich by 
playing nice, 
or by the rules...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
Actually, Kerry meant to imply that the students would become like BUSH, stuck 
in Iraq, or 
such seems to be his stance.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You *do* know Kerry wasn't referring to the troops
 per se, don't you?  He was referring to Bush having
 gotten us--the country--stuck in Iraq because he
 failed to take advantage of his education and never
 learned how to think analytically or to be curious
 enough to inform himself.


When I heard the joke repeated by a liberal friend, both of us thought he meant 
the troops. 
He made it VERY obscure at least by the time *I* heard it. Still haven't heard 
the original.

Had he said: study hard in school, or you will end up like our leaders: stuck 
in Iraq with no 
plan to get us unstuck, it might have been more clear. Maybe not as clever 
to the ear, 
which is the problem with attack-jokes: clever and funny isn't always clear, 
especially when 
taken out-of-context.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs

2006-11-01 Thread llundrub





Purusha

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Louis McKenzie 
  
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another 
  corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
  
  
  What 
  is THP?
  - 
  Original Message From: llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: 
  Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:57:19 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 
  Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
  

  Oh Louis, were you on THP?
  
- Original Message - 
From: Louis McKenzie 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 
AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 
Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs


I 
read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say 
that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have 
known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they 
have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they 
just did not understand that it was just time to move on. 
You 
expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does 
not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came 
and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live 
in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in 
the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot 
to talk about.

Have 
you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most 
contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about 
you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household 
name. Then you will know that you are a success.Well 
Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David 
and Earl I think I went toDavid'sfirst wedding, I really liked 
them both because I could not always tell the difference. They both 
stayed on courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they 
were contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up 
at school anytime and be allowed to attend. 

Imagine 
if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no 
MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and 
acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be 
in an all out nuclear war.  This is life without 
Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say 
whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever 
it is he brought to the world.

I 
admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. 
In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to 
develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune 
up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I 
understand that experience. It takes great effort and sacrifice to 
make major impact. Even one may fail or succeed this doesn't really 
have anything to do with it. Impact is felt in the effort. 
Every action has an effect on world consciousness, a thought introduced by 
Einstein yet demonstrated by Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I 
do not know if Einstein would be understood. 

As 
for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi. 
There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true 
rishi. I have seen a small glimpse of what happens. 
I have seen what it is like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so 
wonderful when he is on top. Then when an eb comes he is a 
crook, a liar a thief, a child molester, a rapist. I was once at 
Agape church in California and a guy who thought of himself as a psychic was 
telling people all he knew about me. 

He 
told them that I raped women at MIU. That I busted into their rooms 
and raped them. I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life forced a 
woman, to have sex if she did not want to. At MIU I had very 
little sex. Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me anyone 
African American who had beensomewhat popular in the TM/Art of living 
circles.. He caused a lot of negativity. But I thought he was 
the most stupid pretender on the planet. Another time I was with 
a bigot who pretended to be psychic in greece, in a restaurant. She 
says watch your purses everyone Louis might steal one. I thought 
what a stupid person. People do and say all kinds of things reflective 
of who they think theyare. As a person of color people are 
even more apt to believe the bull than one of non color. Michael 
Jackson is a child molester no matter what the jury voted, OJ Simpson is a 
murderor, Nelson Mandela is not a great 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by

2006-11-01 Thread Dharma Mitra




ROFLMAOBT

Lust may be involved with what you describe, though most certainly if the richness of the experience is as you describe, then certainly the most transcendental and transpersonal transaction into the singular whole of the universe's love must have been there. Lust alone is not so enveloping. My remarks had to do with lust singularly in excess of its relevance in a practical life in prama.

Three-fourths of all the pain and suffering people experience in life are due to the pleasures others derive in inflicting it upon them. I want every person to be complete in themselves.Your himsa has no place in my mission. 
 
Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is 
a moral conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a menace to society
On 11/1/06, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that lust may be causative, though does not necessarily have tobe, of expending so much energy outside of aparigraha that it makes thestruggle against the demonic influence of the other vritiis much weaker or
even to cease, surrender to the others.I gotta say if you are getting invaded by demons after boning, thenyou might be sleeping with the wrong chick.Just a thought.With theright partner it leads to all the benefits promised by TM.World
peace conceived! I would vigorously add the beast of avarice, for it all too oftenpasses for santosha and includes the subvritii of complacency, each of which negate
 dharma. Three-fourths of all the pain and suffering people experience inlife are due to the pleasures others derive in inflicting it upon them.Iwant every person to be complete in themselves.Your himsa has no place in my
mission. Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the mostvaluable thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. *Anything less is a
menace to society.* On 11/1/06, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Except that for many it leads to the others.   - Original Message -
  From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:27 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by Speaking up for lust, I don't think you should should include that   sweet young thing with those other thugs...
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub llundrub@ wrote: Humans Affected by
 Greed, ignorance, lust, hate, and so on just like regular folk.  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
Doh. Here is the text of the joke he was SUPPPOSED to give:

It's great to be here with college students. I can't overstress the importance 
of a great 
education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't 
smart, if you're 
intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask 
President Bush.

Here is what he actually said:

You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your 
homework and 
you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in 
Iraq.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/01/
AR2006110102513.html





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by

2006-11-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Three-fourths of all the pain and suffering people experience 
 in life are due to the pleasures others derive in inflicting 
 it upon them.  

Just as a question, have you noticed that your 
sig line above, if not certifiably paranoid, is
completely devoid of an understanding of karma?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by

2006-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ROFLMAOBT
 
 Lust may be involved with what you describe, though most certainly
if the
 richness of the experience is as you describe, then certainly the most
 transcendental and transpersonal transaction into the singular whole
of the
 universe's love must have been there.  Lust alone is not so
enveloping.  My
 remarks had to do with lust singularly in excess of its relevance in a
 practical life in prama.

I agree.  Thanks for taking the joke in the right spirit.


 
 Three-fourths of all the pain and suffering people experience in
life are
 due to the pleasures others derive in inflicting it upon them.  I
want every
 person to be complete in themselves.  Your himsa has no place in my
mission.
 
   Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most
valuable
 thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such
 persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a
menace
 to society
 
 On 11/1/06, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra
  DharmaMitra1@ wrote:
  
   And that lust may be causative, though does not necessarily have to
  be, of
   expending so much energy outside of aparigraha that it makes the
  struggle
   against the demonic influence of the other vritiis much weaker or
  even to
   cease, surrender to the others.
 
  I gotta say if you are getting invaded by demons after boning, then
  you might be sleeping with the wrong chick.  Just a thought.  With the
  right partner it leads to all the benefits promised by TM.  World
  peace conceived!
 
 
 
 
 
  
   I would vigorously add the beast of avarice, for it all too often
  passes for
   santosha and includes the subvritii of complacency, each of
which negate
   dharma.
  
  
   Three-fourths of all the pain and suffering people experience in
  life are
   due to the pleasures others derive in inflicting it upon them.  I
  want every
   person to be complete in themselves.  Your himsa has no place in my
  mission.
 Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most
  valuable
   thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience.
Only such
   persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. *Anything less is a
  menace
   to society.*
  
  
  
  
   On 11/1/06, llundrub llundrub@ wrote:
   
Except that for many it leads to the others.
   
- Original Message -
From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - Humans Affected by
   
   
 Speaking up for lust, I don't think you should should
include that
 sweet young thing with those other thugs...


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub llundrub@
wrote:

 Humans Affected by

 Greed, ignorance, lust, hate, and so on just like regular folk.
   
   
  
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  You *do* know Kerry wasn't referring to the troops
  per se, don't you?  He was referring to Bush having
  gotten us--the country--stuck in Iraq because he
  failed to take advantage of his education and never
  learned how to think analytically or to be curious
  enough to inform himself.
 
 
 When I heard the joke repeated by a liberal friend, both of us
thought he meant the troops. 
 He made it VERY obscure at least by the time *I* heard it. Still
haven't heard the original.
 
 Had he said: study hard in school, or you will end up like our
leaders: stuck in Iraq with no 
 plan to get us unstuck, it might have been more clear. Maybe not as
clever to the ear, 
 which is the problem with attack-jokes: clever and funny isn't
always clear, especially when 
 taken out-of-context.

Kerry strayed from his prepared text (which was released to the press
at the time):

It's great to be here with college students. I can't overstress the
importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you
don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You
end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 TurquoiseB wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
   
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
 
 I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much 
 sports in this country.  That's because it diverts attention 
 from the rich who are destroying the middle class.  Maybe we 
 should have a football game with the middle class against the 
 rich to see who wins.  :)
   
   
 The rich would win every time, as long as there
 are referees. Every referee can be bribed, and
 pretty much every rich person would think of 
 bribing them, whereas most middle class would
 neither think of it or have the resources to
 do it effectively.  :-)
 
 
 Besides, sadly, in most of America the rich would
 actually be in better physical shape than the middle
 class. The rich spend several days a week at their
 gyms, so that they can look good at society functions
 and keep their required corporate health insurance
 premiums fairly low. The most exercise that many 
 middle class have had in recent years is mowing the
 lawn and doing biceps curls with a sixpack of beer. 
   
 I would think the middle class might be more brutal than the rich might 
 like so they would be afraid of them.

 

 I think its the other way around. The rich generally don't get or stay rich 
 by playing nice, 
 or by the rules...
I would suggest the movie Lagaan as an idea of how this could go.  
It's cricket not football and Indian villagers versus British colonial 
thugs but the idea is the same.  In reality the rich are way outnumbered 
so we could easily make them hide in their mansions.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another fascinating Yahoo feature

2006-11-01 Thread Bhairitu
They seem to think if you have a hard bounce you've dropped that email 
address instead of using some logic like this occurred at 2 AM when the 
ISP had their mail server down temporarily so don't hard bounce unless 
there are 10 or more hard bounces over 2 or 3 hours.

Jason Spock wrote:
  
   Sir Rick, Yahoo bounced me about a week ago.  Anybody else had this 
 problem.??

   Yahoo should change it's name to BooHoo!

 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:09:14 -
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another fascinating Yahoo feature


   Use the Advanced search facility and search for 
 posts made by any author on October 30. Or use the 
 Last 7 days option and see what comes up.

 I don't know what you see from the US, but when I
 do this, there are zero posts for October 30, even
 though they are clearly present in the newsgroup.

 Methinks someone forgot to turn the indexer on...



  
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[FairfieldLife] Janet Attwood | Spiritual Article |'Blessed are the Peace Makers'

2006-11-01 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.healthywealthynwise.com/article.asp?Article=5105




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sparaig wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

  TurquoiseB wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:


  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
  
  I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much 
  sports in this country.  That's because it diverts attention 
  from the rich who are destroying the middle class.  Maybe we 
  should have a football game with the middle class against the 
  rich to see who wins.  :)


  The rich would win every time, as long as there
  are referees. Every referee can be bribed, and
  pretty much every rich person would think of 
  bribing them, whereas most middle class would
  neither think of it or have the resources to
  do it effectively.  :-)
  
  
  Besides, sadly, in most of America the rich would
  actually be in better physical shape than the middle
  class. The rich spend several days a week at their
  gyms, so that they can look good at society functions
  and keep their required corporate health insurance
  premiums fairly low. The most exercise that many 
  middle class have had in recent years is mowing the
  lawn and doing biceps curls with a sixpack of beer. 

  I would think the middle class might be more brutal than the rich might 
  like so they would be afraid of them.
 
  
 
  I think its the other way around. The rich generally don't get or stay rich 
  by playing 
nice, 
  or by the rules...
 I would suggest the movie Lagaan as an idea of how this could go.  
 It's cricket not football and Indian villagers versus British colonial 
 thugs but the idea is the same.  In reality the rich are way outnumbered 
 so we could easily make them hide in their mansions.


Of course you could, and the police they call no doubt would see things your 
way also...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread coldbluiceman
 sparaig wrote:
  coldbluiceman wrote:
   sparaig wrote:
coldbluiceman wrote:
   [...]
   
   I apologize to everyone for feeding the troll.
Yesterday, I only had 2 hours sleep and then was 
   so wired that I forgot to meditate. 
   My OCD tends to flare up in such circumstances...
  
  Namaste Sir LawsonJi..,i humbily accept your apology.
  You are- (as my kids used to say) *Off The Hook*..
  The day before you made accusations of- 
   me and Sri Swami Swaroopanand Saraswati Ji were attempting to 
  undermine the tmo pundit project.
  
  Think you can stay on-topic today?
  
  If so here is my assessment of the tmo pundit project..
  First, lets have a look at the recent photo of the tmo pundits 
  arrival in America..
  
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/2581?c=
  
  Well Sir LawsonJi...i must politely point out that--
  1. ***none of the tmo pundits are wearing the traditional orche
  (orange) kurti/dhotis of the 
  *BRAHMIN SHANKARYACHARYA TRADITION*!!..
  Not one single tmo pandit has taken sanyas diksha in the
  Shankaracharya Tradition!!***
 
 So pandits/pundits must all be sanyasin? 

Namaste Sir LawsonJi..
i must politley remind to *Stay-On-Topic*..,as i refused to be 
dragged into another one of your Prozac-inspired tangents again!

We are discussing- Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh-ian pundits who 
claimed he was-, training young brahman boys to become Vedic 
Pundits in the tradition of his master Sri Swami BrahmandaJi (who 
was sanyasi and wore an orange dhoti)..., so to answer your 
question..YES in the strictest sense of his Master's lineage.

Because the Mahesh-ian tmo pundits are not wearing orange we can 
question their repsective caste..AS NOT BRAHMAN CASTE..Contrary to 
Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma Mahesh's spurious claims!

 It would be kinda hard to organize and daily 
 participate in mass yagyas 
 involving hundreds or thousands of fellow renunciates if you 
 were a medicant monk, I think...

Here is the website *YOU* personally provided..
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/

In these photos where did you see hundreds of thousands of 
Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh-ian tmo pundits???

The website cleary indicates only slightly more than 100!!

Since you brought it up.., where are the 10,000 Mishmashi 
Brahmachari Mahesh-ian tmo pundits???

i told you there was never any large groups of Mishmashi 
Brahmachari Mahesh-ian tmo pundits numbering more than 200 anywhere 
in the world!!!

 Come to think of it, if all pundits must be sanyasin, 
 where do little pundits come from and 
 who teaches them, by the hundreds or thousands? 
 Certainly not their fellow renunciates 
 because that would be, well, wordly of them...

You really have trouble with reality.. Can you hold a job?
Do you even have gainful employment?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 sparaig wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
   
 TurquoiseB wrote:
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
   
   
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
 
 
 I don't question your manhood but I do think there is too much 
 sports in this country.  That's because it diverts attention 
 from the rich who are destroying the middle class.  Maybe we 
 should have a football game with the middle class against the 
 rich to see who wins.  :)
   
   
   
 The rich would win every time, as long as there
 are referees. Every referee can be bribed, and
 pretty much every rich person would think of 
 bribing them, whereas most middle class would
 neither think of it or have the resources to
 do it effectively.  :-)
 
 
 
 Besides, sadly, in most of America the rich would
 actually be in better physical shape than the middle
 class. The rich spend several days a week at their
 gyms, so that they can look good at society functions
 and keep their required corporate health insurance
 premiums fairly low. The most exercise that many 
 middle class have had in recent years is mowing the
 lawn and doing biceps curls with a sixpack of beer. 
   
   
 I would think the middle class might be more brutal than the rich might 
 like so they would be afraid of them.

 
 
 I think its the other way around. The rich generally don't get or stay rich 
 by playing 
   
 nice, 
   
 or by the rules...
   
 I would suggest the movie Lagaan as an idea of how this could go.  
 It's cricket not football and Indian villagers versus British colonial 
 thugs but the idea is the same.  In reality the rich are way outnumbered 
 so we could easily make them hide in their mansions.

 

 Of course you could, and the police they call no doubt would see things your 
 way also...
That's why we have civil wars and revolutions but the pandits will 
probably make sure that Congress is purged of Republican rakshasas.  :)



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 We are discussing- Mishmashi brahmachari Mahesh-ian pundits who 
 claimed he was-, training young brahman boys to become Vedic 
 Pundits in the tradition of his master Sri Swami BrahmandaJi (who 
 was sanyasi and wore an orange dhoti)..., so to answer your 
 question..YES in the strictest sense of his Master's lineage.


Where does this quote come from?

I've never heaqrd him say it or read anything like it.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
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 That's why we have civil wars and revolutions but the pandits will 
 probably make sure that Congress is purged of Republican rakshasas.  :)


Not all Republicans are rakshasas and not all Democrats are sanyasins 
(reference to another 
thread).




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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ha! That's a great response. But Carry was making a
 clever joke about Bush's poor academic performance and
 being stuck in Iraq. Its actually a clever joke and
 I can't really believe that people authentically
 believe it is some sort of put-down of our troops.

They believe that's the case because that's what
Bush told them (even though he knows otherwise).






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[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Acronyms

2006-11-01 Thread FairfieldLife

BC - Brahman Consciousness
BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi
CC - Cosmic Consciousness
GC - God Consciousness
MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
POV - Point of View
SBS - Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Maharishi's master
SCI – Science of Creative Intelligence
SSRS - Sri Sri Ravi Shankar (Pundit-ji)
SV - Stpathya Ved (Vedic Architecture)
TB - True Believer (in TM doctrines)
TNB - True Non-Believer
TMO - The Transcendental Meditation organization
TTC – TM Teacher Training Course
UC - Unity Consciousness
YMMV = Your Mileage may vary


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread Peter


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  Ha! That's a great response. But Carry was
 making a
  clever joke about Bush's poor academic performance
 and
  being stuck in Iraq. Its actually a clever joke
 and
  I can't really believe that people authentically
  believe it is some sort of put-down of our troops.
 
 
 
 Well, I guess as far as the people in that photo go,
 those troops 
 certainly feel that way.

It's getting spun with the final line dropped so it
sounds like he's insulting the troops.





 
 
 
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette

2006-11-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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   coldbluiceman wrote:
   Namaste Sir LawsonJi..,i humbily accept your apology.
   You are- (as my kids used to say) *Off The Hook*..
   Think you can stay on-topic today?
 You really have trouble with reality.. Can you hold a job?
 Do you even have gainful employment?

Hey coldblueasshole, what is with the on the one hand all the Namaste 
and -ji crap, and on the other, unbridled insults for basically 
everyone? fyi, it makes you look, as they say, a few cans short of a 
six pack. Just thought you ought to know...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  You *do* know Kerry wasn't referring to the troops
  per se, don't you?  He was referring to Bush having
  gotten us--the country--stuck in Iraq because he
  failed to take advantage of his education and never
  learned how to think analytically or to be curious
  enough to inform himself.
 
 
 When I heard the joke repeated by a liberal friend, both of us 
thought he meant the troops. 
 He made it VERY obscure at least by the time *I* heard it. Still 
haven't heard the original.
 
 Had he said: study hard in school, or you will end up like our 
leaders: stuck in Iraq with no 
 plan to get us unstuck, it might have been more clear. Maybe not 
as clever to the ear, 
 which is the problem with attack-jokes: clever and funny isn't 
always clear, especially when 
 taken out-of-context.

Here's what he said...

You know, education, if you make the most of it,
you study hard, you do your homework and you make
an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you
don't, you get stuck in Iraq.

...and here's what he was *supposed* to say in
his prepared remarks:

Do you know where you end up if you don't study,
if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually
lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in
Iraq. Just ask President Bush.

The as-prepared remark couldn't have been clearer
(although I'm sure the Rethugs would have managed
to distort it into a slam at the troops anyway).

But the fact that it was *Kerry* saying it, of all
people, should have clued folks in that the garbled
version couldn't have been about the troops. Kerry
has always been a fierce defender of the troops and
never has and never will say anything negative about
them.

I'm not a big Kerry fan, and I wish he'd have kept
his mouth shut until after the election.  But the
way the Bush crew is playing this is as despicable
as it gets.

Yesterday Bush said:

The members of the United States military are plenty
smart, and they are plenty brave, and the senator from
Massachusetts owes them an apology.

Notice how he stuck in plenty brave?  Kerry didn't
say anything at all about bravery, but adding plenty
brave will make folks think Kerry not only impugned
the troops' intelligence of the troops but questioned
their courage.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/1/06 12:40:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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Ha! 
  That's a great response. But "Carry" was making aclever joke about Bush's 
  poor academic performance andbeing "stuck in Iraq." Its actually a clever 
  joke andI can't really believe that people authenticallybelieve it is 
  some sort of put-down of our troops. 

I can't actually believe that anyone would think it was a clever joke! I 
mean, when did Kerry ever put down the troops? Comparing them to Genghis Khan 
doesn't count.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A fools Paradise.

2006-11-01 Thread Peter
Dude, you need to get laid or get a sense of humor.
Maybe then you'd give-up following a gay Englishman
who claims to be the voice for God on
earth.although I do agree with several of the
points you make below.

--- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At the brink of self-destruction, about to drown in
 the blood of it's 
 own karma, America was rescued by Maharishi, some
 Pundits and a few 
 wise and wealthy americans. 
 
 In Europe we tend to look upon the americans as
 simple, even stupid. 
 Just look at their shortsighted and agressive
 foreign-policy causing 
 nothing than misery and tension.
 
 But many, many americans, millions, are not evil. I
 have lived there, 
 I know that. 
 
 The government is evil, the president is a fool
 and a puppet. 
 Rove/Rumsfelt et.al is running the country. 
 
 Then again the government is only a reflection of
 the collective 
 consciousness. As the americans say: go figure.
 
 So America was saved, probably, hopefully for all
 times to come with 
 the blessings of Maharishi and The Masters.
 
 But who will save FFL ? 
 
 With moderators allowing liars, professional
 negativists, compulsive 
 neurotic posters, hordes of alt.med's, Dr's posing
 as intelligent and 
 normal; what do we have ? Page up and down with
 gossip, lies, 
 recepies, thoughts on Ethiopian women, cynism,
 halloween etcetc, 
 etcetc.
 
 A few honorable exceptions, among a few others: Bob
 Brigante and Jim 
 Flanegin. Always found your writings sound and
 interesting !
 
 I used to read perhaps 60% of the postings here, now
 it is down to 
 5%, maximum. Many good writers have left this board,
 for good reason.
 
 FFL is quickly dying, suffocating in it's own filth.
 And don't rely 
 on Maharishi to save it :-)
 
 A herewith make a suggestion; change the description
 of this board 
 from spiritual to a fools paradise.
 
 The times they are a'changing. 
 
 Unfortunately, the majority of the posters on FFL
 are not.
 
 
 For the time being; Adios
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
  drpetersutphen@ 
  wrote:
  
   Ha! That's a great response. But Carry was
  making a
   clever joke about Bush's poor academic performance
  and
   being stuck in Iraq. Its actually a clever joke
  and
   I can't really believe that people authentically
   believe it is some sort of put-down of our troops.
  
  Well, I guess as far as the people in that photo go,
  those troops 
  certainly feel that way.
 
 It's getting spun with the final line dropped so it
 sounds like he's insulting the troops.

The point of this exercise, by the way, is to put
the Democrats who are running for election on the
spot by demanding that they denounce what Kerry
said.  Those who refuse to do so will be accused of
not supporting the troops.  Those who cave in and
do it will have their remarks included in a nice
collection of Democratic criticisms of Kerry to be
used against him if he runs for president in 2008.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/1/06 12:40:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Ha!  That's a great response. But Carry was making a
 clever joke about Bush's  poor academic performance and
 being stuck in Iraq. Its actually a clever  joke and
 I can't really believe that people authentically
 believe it is  some sort of put-down of our troops. 
 
 
 
 I can't actually believe that anyone would think it was a clever joke! I  
 mean, when did Kerry ever put down the troops? Comparing them to Genghis Khan 
  
 doesn't count.


Here's the source of that. In his testamony before Congress, Kerry referred to 
alleged Vets 
who had told their story at a recent conference of Vietnam vets against the 
war in 
Vietnam:

They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut 
off heads, 
taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, 
cut off 
limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion 
reminiscent of 
Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally 
ravaged 
the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war and 
the normal 
and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this 
country.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/1/06 12:40:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Ha!  That's a great response. But Carry was making a
 clever joke about Bush's  poor academic performance and
 being stuck in Iraq. Its actually a clever  joke and
 I can't really believe that people authentically
 believe it is  some sort of put-down of our troops. 
 
 
 
 I can't actually believe that anyone would think it was a clever joke! I  
 mean, when did Kerry ever put down the troops? Comparing them to Genghis Khan 
  
 doesn't count.


Is this another Al Gore invented the Internet or did Kerry actually make this 
comparison?




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[FairfieldLife] More Pandit News

2006-11-01 Thread Rick Archer
Title: More Pandit News





From a friend:

It looks like another 50 have arrived and 99 in the air. Enjoy!


28th October

Around midnight our first 49 pandits arrived to the Frat buildings. (There will be 80 pandits per building). We all watched the photos, and videos that were taken of the arrival from Chicago to inside the Frats. Gosh they have done such a good job of the buildings.

I'm awed how in 4 days they stripped and refurbished these buildings - completely re-painted, new carpets through plus furniture, all the bedding, towels etc. down to tiny details; installing a whole big kitchen for the Indian cooks complete with everything they will need, foamed flying halls, and everything for communicating with MMY and so on. Only in our Movement could it be done!

What a momentous occasion - plenty of hankies dabbing wet eyes -- FINALLY after all those years they are here!

In the meeting today, John [Hagelin] told us that it is now 3 months since the start of the Invincible America Course and 3 months since the stock market started to boom and has continued to do so ever since. This has been long enough to check the data in detail. It seems that the companies/stocks which have boomed the most are all socially responsible funds - i.e. life-supporting, health and environmental friendly based funds. On the other hand the least growth has been in the non-life-supporting industries - cigarettes, alcohol, etc. That reflects even more clearly that the source of the boom is from the increased coherence created by the group.


29th October

Getting through Immigration when you enter USA is always a nightmare. We expected it could take hours to get our Pandits thro, but the Immigration officers asked only a couple of questions to the first couple of Pandits and then waved the rest through AND gave them all three-year visas instead of the 2 year visas we were told to expect. Jai Guru Dev!


31st October

50 more Pandits arrived last night. The next 99 should arrive tonight - they are in the air right now! There's a dynamo of activity around the frat buildings to get each one done ready to the next lot of arrivals.

At the US Embassy in India we seem to have made a big impression, with the officials asking us to send more Pandits, and getting even more into the idea that they are a very special blessing for USA.
One official actually asked one of the Pandits to bless him as he was getting married the next day. The Pandit told him to take off his shoes and his glasses, and to close his eyes. The official did so, and the Pandit launched into chanting mantras. A blessing all round!

So the numbers here grow. Bevan was telling us about a conversation he had with Maharishi last night (as much as I can remember):

There are still things going on in the world which are giving us concern, but over the next days we can expect a transition in world consciousness as we approach and exceed the Super-Radiance number. We are going to see the bitterness turn to infinite sweetness, through this transition. Everything in creation is like a balloon (?) on a string. The creation is diverse, but all unified on one string. Everything that there is nothing other than consciousness; consciousness is all that there is. Everything is Brahm.

We see this through the experiences that the course participants are experiencing this awakening. Before, the transcendent seemed to be a cave of darkness, but now everyone's experiences are showing that the Rishi light has awakened in everybody here and they are experiencing the transcendent as full of Light - no more darkness. They are experiencing the Totality.

He explained that, these experiences of higher states of Consciousness which everyone here is having, is piercing through the darkness of the world. Every person here is a lamp, piercing the darkness [within themselves and within the world]. It's such a simple thing. This is the time of awakening.

Maharishi is very pleased with the remarkable experiences that seem to be across the board; they really show this remarkable transition that is now happening - it happens first in us. I wish and wish they could be broadcast on the channel - they take your breath away!

Concerning the frequent experience here that as Maharishi comments on the experiences, or gives us new knowledge, new insights into transcending, many people find as he speaks their whole physiology changes and they start to immediately experience it directly, to live that knowledge. They have just immediately slipped to a more refined, higher level of consciousness. Maharishi explained that this was happening because our people are so pure after years of practicing the Sidhis. and because of the very pure atmosphere that has been created here.

We certainly are blessed to be here.


Jai Guru Dev

With love and best wishes from [a friend].

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[FairfieldLife] Wow!

2006-11-01 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Wow!





From a friend:

By a totally freakish accident I found this. It's one of the greatest warning devices I have seen. Mostly it's Moonie stuff; but if you watch closely this is exactly how Mahesh treated people, loving them to death, with-holding love, putting them down, putting them up, manipulating with guilt. -- Everyone should see this and be encouraged to rummage through it for themselves.
 

I have a Mahesh example for almost all of the items illustrated; I am sure some of the insiders like Patrick Ryan and some of the skin boys could fill in the rest.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess Kerry was right.

2006-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/1/06 12:40:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Ha!  That's a great response. But Carry was making a
 clever joke about Bush's  poor academic performance and
 being stuck in Iraq. Its actually a clever  joke and
 I can't really believe that people authentically
 believe it is  some sort of put-down of our troops. 
 
 I can't actually believe that anyone would think it
 was a clever joke! I mean, when did Kerry ever put down
 the troops?

You meant to say why anyone would *not* think it was a
joke.

 Comparing them to Genghis Khan doesn't count.

Let's just give that a little bit of context.
Here's part of what he said before the Senate
committee:

I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that 
several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 
150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans 
testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated 
incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full 
awareness of officers at all levels of command

They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off 
ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human 
genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, 
randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of 
Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and 
generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the 
normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging 
which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

We call this investigation the Winter Soldier Investigation. The 
term Winter Soldier is a play on words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when 
he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted 
at Valley Forge because the going was rough.

We who have come here to Washington have come here because we feel we 
have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country; 
we could be quiet; we could hold our silence; we could not tell what 
went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this 
country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, not reds, and not 
redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, 
that we have to speak out.

http://www.richmond.edu/~ebolt/history398/JohnKerryTestimony.html

Read the rest of it, because his testimony has
also been grossly and maliciously distorted by
the right wing.

In the first place, he wasn't accusing the troops
in Vietnam of atrocities, contrary to the wingnut
spin.  He was *reporting* what they themselves had
said they had done.  And the point was not to hold
the troops up to criticism but the civilian and
military leadership who were running the war.

Kerry has *never* spoken ill of the troops.  He's
their fiercest defender.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save the cheerleader, save the world....

2006-11-01 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote:
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 That's why we have civil wars and revolutions but the pandits will 
 probably make sure that Congress is purged of Republican rakshasas.  :)

 

 Not all Republicans are rakshasas and not all Democrats are sanyasins 
 (reference to another 
 thread).
So?  What is your point, spare egg or is it disparage which what 
Thunderbird's spelling checker keeps wanting to change it to?  :)  I 
didn't say purge the Congress of Republicans did I?




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