[FairfieldLife] Melbourne Maharishi School
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[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1706768,00.html? cnn=yes * Alcohol is a poison and every drop you drink weakens the heart muscle... That's probably what killed that lush Jesus. *** Water was always unhealthy to drink back then, so people drank wine, kind of like how people today drink Coke in India to avoid the nasty water -- doesn't mean alcohol is a good thing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Something in me just snapped, but very quietly. I walked over to the red-faced, near-apoplectic ass- hole and took him by the perfectly-pressed collar of his perfectly-pressed shirt (mussing his perfect tie), and dragged him over to the edge of the trail that we were walking along and leaned him out over the edge. He looked down...WAY down, several hundred meters, to where he might easily wind up if he didn't pay attention. He paid attention. I don't believe you-- this sounds like a made up fantasy of yours, child. You mean like your enlightenment? :-) To you, precisely like enlightenment, simply because you don't know how to tell the difference...twit. (hook, line, and sinker...). :- ) Jim, Do you actually believe that you are impressing people by pursuing this grudge against me? And by acting out with the intelligence level of a twelve-year-old? I mean, you could stand to learn a little some- thing from the events of the last couple of days. People here on this forum like Nablus, ferchissakes, preferred believing that sandiego108 wasn't you to believing that you -- Jim Flanegin -- had sunk so low in both your language and your thinking. Ask for a show of hands, Jim. After this latest meltdown, ask whether there is even ONE person on this forum who believes your claims of being enlightened. I do. Why does enlightenment has to mean kindness to everybody, in all directions ? Why indeed is kindness so important, all of the time ? Didn't Nityananda just sit there not saying a word, and then suddendly start hitting some fellow vigorously with a stick apparently for no reason ? Get over it, enlightenment is not for fainthearted amateurs.
[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1706768,00.html? cnn=yes * Alcohol is a poison and every drop you drink weakens the heart muscle... That's probably what killed that lush Jesus.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Something in me just snapped, but very quietly. I walked over to the red-faced, near-apoplectic ass- hole and took him by the perfectly-pressed collar of his perfectly-pressed shirt (mussing his perfect tie), and dragged him over to the edge of the trail that we were walking along and leaned him out over the edge. He looked down...WAY down, several hundred meters, to where he might easily wind up if he didn't pay attention. He paid attention. I don't believe you-- this sounds like a made up fantasy of yours, child. Of course I didn't really DO what I said I did. --Barry Wright, 1/23/08 Spot on Judy ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1706768,00.html? cnn=yes * Alcohol is a poison and every drop you drink weakens the heart muscle... That's probably what killed that lush Jesus. *** Water was always unhealthy to drink back then, so people drank wine, kind of like how people today drink Coke in India to avoid the nasty water -- doesn't mean alcohol is a good thing. And you believing that alcohol is a bad thing doesn't make alcohol a bad thing. :-)
[FairfieldLife] The score is 1 believer in Jim's enlightenment but it's Nabby, so that's minus 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Something in me just snapped, but very quietly. I walked over to the red-faced, near-apoplectic ass- hole and took him by the perfectly-pressed collar of his perfectly-pressed shirt (mussing his perfect tie), and dragged him over to the edge of the trail that we were walking along and leaned him out over the edge. He looked down...WAY down, several hundred meters, to where he might easily wind up if he didn't pay attention. He paid attention. I don't believe you-- this sounds like a made up fantasy of yours, child. You mean like your enlightenment? :-) To you, precisely like enlightenment, simply because you don't know how to tell the difference...twit. (hook, line, and sinker...). :- ) Jim, Do you actually believe that you are impressing people by pursuing this grudge against me? And by acting out with the intelligence level of a twelve-year-old? I mean, you could stand to learn a little some- thing from the events of the last couple of days. People here on this forum like Nablus, ferchissakes, preferred believing that sandiego108 wasn't you to believing that you -- Jim Flanegin -- had sunk so low in both your language and your thinking. Ask for a show of hands, Jim. After this latest meltdown, ask whether there is even ONE person on this forum who believes your claims of being enlightened. I do. Why does enlightenment has to mean kindness to everybody, in all directions ? Why indeed is kindness so important, all of the time ? Didn't Nityananda just sit there not saying a word, and then suddendly start hitting some fellow vigorously with a stick apparently for no reason ? Get over it, enlightenment is not for fainthearted amateurs. Congratulations, Jim! One person on this forum DOES believe your claim about being enlightened. Of course, it's the same person who believes that Christ is alive and well and speaking through Benjamin Creme, but at least it's one person. Then again, only a day ago he claimed that the person who was writing the stuff that you were posting here under the ID sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, so maybe Nabby has you mixed up *with* Benjamin Creme or Christ. It's kinda hard to tell with Nabby. Just as a recap, here are a few of the writings of this enlightened being -- Jim Flanegin/sandiego108: Now we know why your dog is bowlegged, you drunken old fart. I think you meant this to go to Turdquoise, he's the one who wants to fuck your asshole, asshole. Hey, whaddya call a Buddhist who is full of shit? Turdquoise B! speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear is mffmmffmm... cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent animal lover-- how's FiFi? spew on Turdquoise- you're as easy to bait as that limp fish you call your dick. Oh, and feel free to wave your wee-pain around in my absence- we're impressed! PS How's Fido? What does the B in Turdquoise B stand for, anyway? Bitch? Cuz that's all I hear from your direction- a little whiny bitch. Oh, right, because of your dog... hey bitch did I forget to act enlightened? Or should I get in touch with my inner asshole? or do we just do that when we're drinking? Damn, clue me in Turdquoise, I'm gettin' lost out here in Reality...bitch. H...sounds a lot like Nabby himself. Maybe *Nablus* is pretending to be Jim Flanegin, who is pretending to be Christ who is pretending to be Maitreya, all of whom are pretending to be enlightened. Whatever... :-)
[FairfieldLife] 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
Questions for the Clintons By BOB HERBERT Published: January 26, 2008 Charleston, S.C. Joseph P. Riley Jr. has been mayor of this historic and often tense city since the mid-1970s. Hes a Democrat, highly respected and has worked diligently to heal racial wounds that have festered in some cases for hundreds of years. He has endorsed Barack Obama in todays Democratic primary. But what struck me during an interview in his quiet office in an exquisitely restored City Hall was not the fact of the endorsement, but the manner in which the mayor expressed it. He went out of his way to praise the Democratic field, including some of the candidates who have dropped out, like Senators Joseph Biden and Chris Dodd. He talked about his fondness for Bill and Hillary Clinton and said: Its tough when you have to choose between friends. The mayors thoughtful, respectful, generous assessment of the field echoed the tone that had prevailed until recently in the Democratic primary campaign. That welcome tone has been lost, undermined by a deliberate injection of ugliness, and it would be very difficult to make the case that the Clintons have not been primarily to blame. Bill Clinton, in his over-the-top advocacy of his wifes candidacy, has at times sounded like a man whos gone off his medication. And some of the Clinton surrogates have been flat-out reprehensible. Andrew Young, for instance. This week, while making the remarkable accusation that the Obama camp was responsible for raising the race issue, Mr. Clinton mentioned Andrew Young as someone who would bear that out. It was an extremely unfortunate reference. Heres what Mr. Young, who is black and a former ambassador to the United Nations, had to say last month in an interview posted online: Bill is every bit as black as Barack. Hes probably gone with more black women than Barack. He then went on to make disgusting comments about the way that Bill and Hillary Clinton defended themselves years ago against the fallout from the former presidents womanizing. Thats coming from the Clinton camp! And then there was Bob Kerrey, the former senator and another Clinton supporter, who slimed up the campaign with the following comments: Its probably not something that appeals to him, but I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim. Theres a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal. Pressing the point, Mr. Kerrey told CNNs John King: Ive watched the blogs try to say that you cant trust him because he spent a little bit of time in a secular madrassa. I feel quite the opposite. Get it? Lets start with the fact that Mr. Obama never attended a madrassa, and that there is no such thing as a secular madrassa. A madrassa is a religious school. Beyond that, the idea is to not-so-slyly feed the current frenzy, on the Internet and elsewhere, that Senator Obama is a Muslim, and thus potentially (in the eyes of many voters) an enemy of the United States. Mr. Obama is not a Muslim. Hes a Christian. And if he were a Muslim, it would not be a legitimate reason for attacking his candidacy. The Clinton camp knows what its doing, and its slimy maneuvers have been working. Bob Kerrey apologized and Andrew Young said at the time of his comment that he was just fooling around. But the damage to Senator Obama has been real, and so have the benefits to Senator Clinton of these and other lowlife tactics. Consider, for example, the following Web posting (misspellings and all) from a mainstream news blog on Jan. 13: omg people get a grip. Can you imagine calling our president barak hussien obama ... I cant, I pray no one would be disrespectful enough to put this man in our whitehouse. Mr. Obamas campaign was always going to be difficult, and the climb is even steeper now. There is no reason to feel sorry for him. Hes a politician out of Chicago who must have known that campaigns often degenerate into demolition derbies. Still, its legitimate to ask, given the destructive developments of the last few weeks, whether the Clintons are capable of being anything but divisive. The electorate seems more polarized now than it was just a few weeks ago, and the Clintons have seemed positively gleeful in that atmosphere. It makes one wonder whether they have any understanding or regard for the corrosive long-term effects on their party and the nation of pitting people bitterly and unnecessarily against one another. What kind of people are the Clintons? What role will Bill Clinton play in a new Clinton White House? Can they look beyond winning to a wounded nations need for healing and unifying? These are questions that need to be answered. Stay tuned. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
On Jan 28, 2008, at 7:31 AM, Peter wrote: --- sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what MMY refers to as a point of consciousness originating from Fullness, a seed containing in a potential state all the forces, dimensions, time, suns, solar systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe required for the creation of a single universe. This point of consciousness could be the origin of the big bang and in this case refers to the origin of a single soul, creating its' universe and then incarnating into it, each soul creating its' own universe from this seed of consciousness. At the end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe then reverts back into the Bindu and then back into Fullness. I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. I've experienced two types, gold and blue. They open into universes. I wouldn't call them a point of consciousness, but I know why you say that. A point of consciousness is consciousness as emptiness. A true point is dimensionless as pure consciousness is appreciated to be in CC. Bindus are points in a relative sense because they are perceived through the senses (subtle). So they initially appear as a point of light in awareness and if you hold the attention on them they might open into a universe in your awareness. Just a really trippy object of perception. That would be a relative bindu or the aspect of the energetic dimension consisting of prana (or vayu), nadi and bindu. There is a more absolute level to bindu (the maha-bindu), but that's different than what's being described here and taught in inner practices of both the Buddhist and Hindu tantras. As one 'gets used to' the view of Unity, then one can integrate further aspects of individual and collective energy to the point where bindus self-perfect into mandalas or dimensions of deities. Eventually, as this stabilizes, this is carried into waking state as well. This shouldn't be confused with the idea of the 4 transformations of the point used in Advaita vedanta and Nyaya metaphysics which MMY talks about.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
--- sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what MMY refers to as a point of consciousness originating from Fullness, a seed containing in a potential state all the forces, dimensions, time, suns, solar systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe required for the creation of a single universe. This point of consciousness could be the origin of the big bang and in this case refers to the origin of a single soul, creating its' universe and then incarnating into it, each soul creating its' own universe from this seed of consciousness. At the end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe then reverts back into the Bindu and then back into Fullness. I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. I've experienced two types, gold and blue. They open into universes. I wouldn't call them a point of consciousness, but I know why you say that. A point of consciousness is consciousness as emptiness. A true point is dimensionless as pure consciousness is appreciated to be in CC. Bindus are points in a relative sense because they are perceived through the senses (subtle). So they initially appear as a point of light in awareness and if you hold the attention on them they might open into a universe in your awareness. Just a really trippy object of perception. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what MMY refers to as a point of consciousness originating from Fullness, a seed containing in a potential state all the forces, dimensions, time, suns, solar systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe required for the creation of a single universe. This point of consciousness could be the origin of the big bang and in this case refers to the origin of a single soul, creating its' universe and then incarnating into it, each soul creating its' own universe from this seed of consciousness. At the end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe then reverts back into the Bindu and then back into Fullness. I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. I've experienced two types, gold and blue. They open into universes. I wouldn't call them a point of consciousness, but I know why you say that. A point of consciousness is consciousness as emptiness. A true point is dimensionless as pure consciousness is appreciated to be in CC. Bindus are points in a relative sense because they are perceived through the senses (subtle). So they initially appear as a point of light in awareness and if you hold the attention on them they might open into a universe in your awareness. Just a really trippy object of perception. Very nice peter. I'm sorry I thought you were a mental case, a blind leading other blinds and taking their cash simultaneously. I do apologize.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:07 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nab, Americans seem to occupy a special place in your heart. Similar, I'm sure, to the place you occupy in our own. I do not dislike them, in fact I have several americans friends from my travels there. Very nice people. But since the CIA are (mostly) americans it is natural to be sceptical. It's not only that president of yours that makes the americans look like fools the world over, CIA is very busy doing the same thing. And, like their president, they are in the business of creating havoc around the world. Hey Nabby, there’s a point that you and I agree on. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: The score is 1 believer in Jim's enlightenment but it's Nabby, so that's minus 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H...sounds a lot like Nabby himself. Maybe *Nablus* is pretending to be Jim Flanegin, who is pretending to be Christ who is pretending to be Maitreya, all of whom are pretending to be enlightened. Whatever... :-) And you believing that alcohol is a bad thing doesn't make alcohol a bad thing. :-) - Turq Haha, you have just had too much of that cheap 0.6 euros pr bottle Spain is so full of. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nab, Americans seem to occupy a special place in your heart. Similar, I'm sure, to the place you occupy in our own. I do not dislike them, in fact I have several americans friends from my travels there. Very nice people. But since the CIA are (mostly) americans it is natural to be sceptical. It's not only that president of yours that makes the americans look like fools the world over, CIA is very busy doing the same thing. And, like their president, they are in the business of creating havoc around the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Questions for the Clintons By BOB HERBERT Published: January 26, 2008 snip Bill Clinton, in his over-the-top advocacy of his wife's candidacy, has at times sounded like a man who's gone off his medication. And some of the Clinton surrogates have been flat-out reprehensible. snip And then there was Bob Kerrey, the former senator and another Clinton supporter, who slimed up the campaign with the following comments: It's probably not something that appeals to him, but I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim. There's a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal. Pressing the point, Mr. Kerrey told CNN's John King: I've watched the blogs try to say that you can't trust him because he spent a little bit of time in a secular madrassa. I feel quite the opposite. Get it? Yes. Sounds to me like Kerrey is trying to counter the false rumor that Obama is a Muslim. How that could be considered a slime is rather strange; to call it a slime appears to be an attempt to slime the Clinton campaign. Let's start with the fact that Mr. Obama never attended a madrassa, and that there is no such thing as a secular madrassa. A madrassa is a religious school. Madrassa is the Arabic word for school--any kind of school, secular or religious. So we're not starting with a fact at all. snip The Clinton camp knows what it's doing, and its slimy maneuvers have been working. Bob Kerrey apologized and Andrew Young said at the time of his comment that he was just fooling around. But the damage to Senator Obama has been real, and so have the benefits to Senator Clinton of these and other lowlife tactics. Consider, for example, the following Web posting (misspellings and all) from a mainstream news blog on Jan. 13: omg people get a grip. Can you imagine calling our president barak hussien obama ... I cant, I pray no one would be disrespectful enough to put this man in our whitehouse. Cherry-picking one nasty *comment* (not a posting) on a blog as if it were somehow representative of the purported damage the Clinton campaign is doing to Obama is really beneath contempt. Herbert knows better, but he knows many of his readers will not. snip Still, it's legitimate to ask, given the destructive developments of the last few weeks, whether the Clintons are capable of being anything but divisive. The electorate seems more polarized now than it was just a few weeks ago, and the Clintons have seemed positively gleeful in that atmosphere. I see no glee coming out of the Clinton campaign. What I do see is a relentless attempt by the media and the Obama campaign to paint the Clintons as divisive, including deliberately quoting perfectly reasonable remarks by the campaign misleadingly out of context.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
Those of us who live in Iowa have plenty of practice at living in ice! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Yes, but what's the point? He can live in places no-one else wants to live in, but he have some trouble with gobal warming. OffWorld Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC Sun Jan 27, 2:03 PM ET NEW YORK - A man who calls himself a tantric master broke his own world record by standing engulfed in ice for 72 minutes. Wim Hof, 48, stood on a Manhattan street in a clear container filled with ice for an hour and 12 minutes Saturday. Hof said he survives by controlling his body temperature through tantric meditation. Tantra is an Eastern tradition of ritual and meditation said to bring followers closer to their chosen deities. Hof set the world record for full body ice contact endurance in 2004, when he immersed himself in ice for an hour and eight minutes. Hof's feat kicked off BRAINWAVE, a five-month series of events in New York exploring how art, music, and meditation affect the brain.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Fred and Debby Poneman's son
Wow! What a mature kid. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred and Debby Poneman's son HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1 Fred and Debby are in this too in a couple of places. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
In a message dated 1/28/08 9:11:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to worry! The Kennedy's have endorsed Barack Hussein Obama, or is that a kiss of *death*, politically speaking? Hardly. Only those who would never vote for a Democrat in the first place would even think of posing such a question. (And for the record, some of the Kennedy's [sic] have endorsed Clinton.) Not necessarily true Judy. Ted Kennedy is a very big turn off to a lot of independents and the more conservative element of the Democrats. It will be interesting to see if any other Kennedy's come out for Hillary or see if they speak with one voice. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
It may be that this guy is doing it for the benefit of his ego. The fact that
the report made it sound that way doesn't necessarily mean that this is really
his interest. In any case, it is a good thing to publicize things like this
for the benefit of those who doubt that yogic expertise really has something
going for it. Selling a meditation technique for money is also rather
incongruous, but until it was done, not enough people could take advantage of
it and learn.
- Original Message
From: feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:04:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
I got the impression from the report that this guy is doing it as an
ego thing -- he wants to break a world record and do it in public. I
don't think he's the slightest bit interested in scientific research
for the benefit of humanity. He just wants to show off, and the idea
of a spiritual master, Tantric or otherwise, performing in a stunt
like this seems rather incongruous to me.
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ ... wrote:
I don't understand the what's the point question. Of course there
is no immediate usefulness I can think of, but the FACT of controlling
what we ordinarily think of as beyond our control is not only
interesting but important to explore for humankind.
- Original Message
From: feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:24:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
Those of us who live in Iowa have plenty of practice at
living in ice!
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, off_world_beings no_reply@ .
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
Yes, but what's the point?
He can live in places no-one else wants to live in, but he have some
trouble with gobal warming.
OffWorld
Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
Sun Jan 27, 2:03 PM ET
NEW YORK - A man who calls himself a tantric master broke his own
world record by standing engulfed in ice for 72 minutes.
Wim Hof, 48, stood on a Manhattan street in a clear container filled
with ice for an hour and 12 minutes Saturday.
Hof said he survives by controlling his body temperature through
tantric meditation. Tantra is an Eastern tradition of ritual and
meditation said to bring followers closer to their chosen deities.
Hof set the world record for full body ice contact endurance in
2004,
when he immersed himself in ice for an hour and eight minutes.
Hof's feat kicked off BRAINWAVE, a five-month series of events in
New
York exploring how art, music, and meditation affect the brain.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Angela Mailander wrote: I don't understand the what's the point question. Of course there is no immediate usefulness I can think of, but the FACT of controlling what we ordinarily think of as beyond our control is not only interesting but important to explore for humankind. True. One of the interesting ramifications of yogis being able to actually consciously control their metabolic rate is for space travel or to create suspended animation pending surgery. Raising body temp could also help science understand phenomenon like spontaneous tumor necrosis, where a patient will often get a bad fever and then find out later all their cancer has been eradicated.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:07 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Nab, Americans seem to occupy a special place in your heart. Similar, I'm sure, to the place you occupy in our own. I do not dislike them, in fact I have several americans friends from my travels there. Very nice people. But since the CIA are (mostly) americans it is natural to be sceptical. It's not only that president of yours that makes the americans look like fools the world over, CIA is very busy doing the same thing. And, like their president, they are in the business of creating havoc around the world. Hey Nabby, there's a point that you and I agree on. ...and do the both of you also believe that the CIA infiltrated the TMO? The crew-cut american caught on the bridge between Kulm and Sonnenberg with a 9mm was not from the Salvation Army.
[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: And you believing that alcohol is a bad thing doesn't make alcohol a bad thing. :-) A balanced life is a good thing. Be active, drink a little, eat a moderate amount. Meditate. Don't work too hard. Do good. Be kind. See the difference between this prescription and Bob's absolute condemnation of alcohol? One is balanced; the other is not. *Especially* when the unbalanced one was in response to an article about the proven beneficial effects of moderate wine intake on health. It's starting to look as if there is a perfect inverse relationship between how *sure* certain posters on FFL are about what they believe to be true, and the likelihood that those things actually *are* true.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
On Jan 28, 2008, at 12:10 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Hey Nabby, there's a point that you and I agree on. ...and do the both of you also believe that the CIA infiltrated the TMO? Well you saw the video with the KGB agent, right? After that, the CIA is less of a surprise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fred and Debby Poneman's son
That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen all year. It doesn't surprise me that Debby's son would have such natural self confidence and focused goals. Remember Yes! to Success? This kid was brought up by parents who know how to think! Thanks for posting this. I was taking notes from this kid on how to bring my own dreams to the next level! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! What a mature kid. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred and Debby Poneman's son HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1 Fred and Debby are in this too in a couple of places. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you believing that alcohol is a bad thing doesn't make alcohol a bad thing. :-) A balanced life is a good thing. Be active, drink a little, eat a moderate amount. Meditate. Don't work too hard. Do good. Be kind.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
In a message dated 1/28/08 10:05:46 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see no glee coming out of the Clinton campaign. What I do see is a relentless attempt by the media and the Obama campaign to paint the Clintons as divisive, including deliberately quoting perfectly reasonable remarks by the campaign misleadingly out of context. Oh Judy, please. You are truly a loyal dyed in the wool Clintonista. And you'll defend anything they say or do. Just this past week Bill compared Obama to Jesse Jackson by saying Jesse had won the SC primary twice. You take that as something innocent but everybody else knows that is code to scare more white voters to Hillary . And that is not just my perception but of most blacks and Democrats. Nothing coming out of the mouths of the Clinton's is innocent, it's very calculated and subtle. And whenever they or their surrogates are called on the carpet to explain what they said, they are prepared with an innocent explanation from how something was originally taken. Case in point, Bob Kerry,a Hillary supporter, talking about Barack Hussein Obama's Muslim roots at a time when the Internet was full of rumors about him really being a radical Muslim. There was no other reason for him to bring that up than to feed into that rumor and when called on that, he says he just thought it was a great asset and was meant as a complement. Please give me a break! **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fred and Debby Poneman's son
I really don't know Fred either, but I always liked Debbie. Saw her about ten years ago at a SSRS event and she was just the same as ever. With all the bashing (myself included) of the many idiots, morons and ethically challenged people in the TMO, we should shift gears at times and make a list of the amazing cool, together,just-down-right-good people that have been part of the TMO. In fact, I know many more of these type of people than the other type from the TMO. --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't that great? That kid is a testament to Fred and Debbie's parenting skills. What easy self-confidence. I think all of us could learn something by watching this kid! I didn't know Fred but I knew Debby when we were students. She is an exceptional human. So I've been deconstructing Dan's rejection strategy as he pitches his site, which would help me in pitching my shows. I think part of the key is that he goes in with nothing to lose. Just last week I had braces on so I don't expect them to talk with me. He doesn't take himself too seriously. (a tad bit easier at 16 then 50!) But it allows him tremendous freedom to ask for what he wants from anybody. By coming in with no ego to protect, he doesn't have to be defensive about people taking him seriously. He takes himself seriously in a healthy way, but it is totally unconnected from people's reactions to him. I'm idealizing a bit here but this POV is so useful for my own work. The kid's got it going on and big high five for great parenting. (I raised two well behaved cats and that was my parenting skills limit!) --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen all year. It doesn't surprise me that Debby's son would have such natural self confidence and focused goals. Remember Yes! to Success? This kid was brought up by parents who know how to think! Thanks for posting this. I was taking notes from this kid on how to bring my own dreams to the next level! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Wow! What a mature kid. --- Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred and Debby Poneman's son HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1 Fred and Debby are in this too in a couple of places. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I see no glee coming out of the Clinton campaign. What I do see is a relentless attempt by the media and the Obama campaign to paint the Clintons as divisive, including deliberately quoting perfectly reasonable remarks by the campaign misleadingly out of context. I can't believe you feel that way about the now infamous Ronald Reagan remarks about Obama by Bill Clinton, Judy. Do you really feel that that was a perfectly reasonable remark by the campaign misleadingly out of context? Have you stopped beating your wife, Shemp? See if you can just answer the fucking question, Judy. Or are you doing the same thing you always do when someone points out a consistency on your part, which is to NOT address the matter at hand?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rodrigo Y Gabriela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you music lovers will like these folks: HYPERLINK http://www.rodgab.com/watch.htmhttp://www.rodgab.com/watch.htm Delicioso! Muchas gracias, Rick!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I see no glee coming out of the Clinton campaign. What I do see is a relentless attempt by the media and the Obama campaign to paint the Clintons as divisive, including deliberately quoting perfectly reasonable remarks by the campaign misleadingly out of context. I can't believe you feel that way about the now infamous Ronald Reagan remarks about Obama by Bill Clinton, Judy. Do you really feel that that was a perfectly reasonable remark by the campaign misleadingly out of context? Have you stopped beating your wife, Shemp?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
In a message dated 1/28/08 11:16:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A balanced life is a good thing. Be active, drink a little, eat a moderate amount. Meditate. Don't work too hard. Do good. Be kind. See the difference between this prescription and Bob's absolute condemnation of alcohol? One is balanced; the other is not. *Especially* when the unbalanced one was in response to an article about the proven beneficial effects of moderate wine intake on health. It's starting to look as if there is a perfect inverse relationship between how *sure* certain posters on FFL are about what they believe to be true, and the likelihood that those things actually *are* true. I think Krishna says someplace in the Gita that moderation is the key to a long healthy life. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/08 9:11:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to worry! The Kennedy's have endorsed Barack Hussein Obama, or is that a kiss of *death*, politically speaking? Hardly. Only those who would never vote for a Democrat in the first place would even think of posing such a question. (And for the record, some of the Kennedy's [sic] have endorsed Clinton.) Not necessarily true Judy. Ted Kennedy is a very big turn off to a lot of independents and the more conservative element of the Democrats. Who wouldn't vote for Obama in the first place. It will be interesting to see if any other Kennedy's come out for Hillary or see if they speak with one voice. They have, and they don't, as I just noted.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/08 10:05:46 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see no glee coming out of the Clinton campaign. What I do see is a relentless attempt by the media and the Obama campaign to paint the Clintons as divisive, including deliberately quoting perfectly reasonable remarks by the campaign misleadingly out of context. Oh Judy, please. You are truly a loyal dyed in the wool Clintonista. And you'll defend anything they say or do. Just this past week Bill compared Obama to Jesse Jackson by saying Jesse had won the SC primary twice. You take that as something innocent You're a terrible mind-reader. No, that wasn't innocent. On the other hand, Obama's no innocent either. The notion that he's not running as an African American, and that therefore any acknowledgment of his race is playing the race card, is ludicrous. He wants to have it both ways. but everybody else knows that is code to scare more white voters to Hillary. And that is not just my perception but of most blacks and Democrats. Nothing coming out of the mouths of the Clinton's is innocent, it's very calculated and subtle. At least, Obama's campaign, the media, and Clinton-hating right-wingers will do their damndest to portray it that way--the latter because they think Obama will be easier to beat (and they're probably right). And whenever they or their surrogates are called on the carpet to explain what they said, they are prepared with an innocent explanation from how something was originally taken. Again, I'm not saying the Clintons are cleaner than whistles. I'm saying they're not anywhere *near* as dirty as they're portrayed. Case in point, Bob Kerry,a Hillary supporter, talking about Barack Hussein Obama's Muslim roots at a time when the Internet was full of rumors about him really being a radical Muslim. There was no other reason for him to bring that up than to feed into that rumor and when called on that, he says he just thought it was a great asset and was meant as a complement. Please give me a break! Seems to me that's exactly what it was. But Kerrey should have known better than to try to say something positive about Obama in this poisonous anti-Clinton atmosphere.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
I got the impression from the report that this guy is doing it as an
ego thing -- he wants to break a world record and do it in public. I
don't think he's the slightest bit interested in scientific research
for the benefit of humanity. He just wants to show off, and the idea
of a spiritual master, Tantric or otherwise, performing in a stunt
like this seems rather incongruous to me.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand the what's the point question. Of course there
is no immediate usefulness I can think of, but the FACT of controlling
what we ordinarily think of as beyond our control is not only
interesting but important to explore for humankind.
- Original Message
From: feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:24:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
Those of us who live in Iowa have plenty of practice at
living in ice!
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, off_world_beings no_reply@ .
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
Yes, but what's the point?
He can live in places no-one else wants to live in, but he have some
trouble with gobal warming.
OffWorld
Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
Sun Jan 27, 2:03 PM ET
NEW YORK - A man who calls himself a tantric master broke his own
world record by standing engulfed in ice for 72 minutes.
Wim Hof, 48, stood on a Manhattan street in a clear container filled
with ice for an hour and 12 minutes Saturday.
Hof said he survives by controlling his body temperature through
tantric meditation. Tantra is an Eastern tradition of ritual and
meditation said to bring followers closer to their chosen deities.
Hof set the world record for full body ice contact endurance in
2004,
when he immersed himself in ice for an hour and eight minutes.
Hof's feat kicked off BRAINWAVE, a five-month series of events in
New
York exploring how art, music, and meditation affect the brain.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:07 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Nab, Americans seem to occupy a special place in your heart. Similar, I'm sure, to the place you occupy in our own. I do not dislike them, in fact I have several americans friends from my travels there. Very nice people. But since the CIA are (mostly) americans it is natural to be sceptical. It's not only that president of yours that makes the americans look like fools the world over, CIA is very busy doing the same thing. And, like their president, they are in the business of creating havoc around the world. Hey Nabby, there's a point that you and I agree on. Glad to hear that. :-) It would also be good to keep that in mind when you hear and evaluate the truth of rumours.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
I think that for any knowledge to be possible, there has to be that bindu point
that includes all knowledge and this point is omnipresent. Based on what I am
learning in the chat group of physicists and mathematicians that I belong to,
the big bang is definitely bindu. It is the first distinction from
undifferentiated being.
- Original Message
From: tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:35:55 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
sandiego108 writes snipped:
I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all
that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of
singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature
as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that
chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found
to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within
Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu.
Tom T:
When the Knowing is Known by the ultimate Knower there is no where
left to go. This is the one and only Knower knowing its creation
through its own Self. From the totality of creation to point value it
is all Knower and Knower can know through the totality and the point
value simultaneously. All the ocean in a drop. Same.
TomT
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: Nothing coming out of the mouths of the Clinton's is innocent, it's very calculated and subtle. And whenever they or their surrogates are called on the carpet to explain what they said, they are prepared with an innocent explanation from how something was originally taken. So, every politician is expected to speak carefully and never make a statement that could be interpreted as racist, sexist, or any other ist. Which means, effectively, that whichever candidate the media most dislikes literally can't say *anything* that cannot interpreted as some kind of ist. Regarding Obama's appalling comments about Reagan, I wrote my sister that Hillary should forget the truce and string him up for them. Ten minutes after sending the email, I realized that if I'd been speaking to the media, I'd have been immediately branded as a racist. In an email to a blogger, I referred to Obama's noble pose. Then I realized I couldn't say that either, because it could be interpreted as a reference to the noble savage stereotype. Another anti-Clinton blogger actually accused Bill Clinton of racism for saying Obama had put out a hit job on him--because the hit job metaphor had connotations of violence. snip As someone who spends her time with politicians, I know that the press plays a large part in setting the divisive tone. Everything is the horse race. Everything you say will get repeated, context be damned. Absolutely. And worse, it's a horse race in which the media pick favorites and do whatever they can to help them win. Bob Somerby's blog dailyhowler.com does a terrific job of chronicling this sort of thing almost every day, if anyone is interested in seeing examples.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: ...and maybe it's because I spent time in the TMO and all seems quite normal to me, but I really don't see much harm in the Tom Cruise Scientology video making the rounds: http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 Everyone seems to think it is some sort of terrible propagandist, brainwashing type of thing but I just don't see it. What do you think? I think that anyone who claims to be the ONLY one who can really help at an accident scene, and who isn't an EMT, has been drinking the coolaid a bit too much. I find his claim that Scientologists are the experts on the human mind to be delusional. His claim about how SP's can't come around him was specifically refuted by Matt Lauer's interview which exposed his wacky perspective on psychiatry. Contrary to his claim in movement terms, he didn't avert the danger before it arose by his magical state of mind. He drips with the unpleasant quality of taking himself waay too seriously. His delight in everything he says, and his inappropriate projectile laughter, make him one of the most entertaining weirdos to come along in a long time. I could watch that tape every day and not tire of it. Then you'll probably also really enjoy this one: Tom Cruise Scientology-Constipation Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jqD_8IQpMfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Everything old is new again ('What Kind of People are the Clintons?')
I just now heard Ted Kennedy's speech announcing his backing of Obama -- missed Caroline and Patrick's speeches, but the whole history and might and power of the Kennedys is now Obama's. Very very rousing speech -- tears came to my eyes as he recalled Jack and Bobby. Camelot came back to life today. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 1/28/08 9:11:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, jstein@ writes: Not to worry! The Kennedy's have endorsed Barack Hussein Obama, or is that a kiss of *death*, politically speaking? Hardly. Only those who would never vote for a Democrat in the first place would even think of posing such a question. (And for the record, some of the Kennedy's [sic] have endorsed Clinton.) Not necessarily true Judy. Ted Kennedy is a very big turn off to a lot of independents and the more conservative element of the Democrats. Who wouldn't vote for Obama in the first place. It will be interesting to see if any other Kennedy's come out for Hillary or see if they speak with one voice. They have, and they don't, as I just noted.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:11 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise ...and do the both of you also believe that the CIA infiltrated the TMO? Probably not to the extent MMY carried on about, but they definitely had their eye on it, especially after Jonestown. I worked in the DC center after Jonestown and Im sure our phones were tapped. I think the CIA saw pretty quickly that the TMO was the gang that couldn't shoot straight and just left us to self-destruct on our own! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
Yes, he may be a wannabe, but his feat seems real enough. In any case, my
point was that we just don't know enough about him to judge. When I was in
China, I became very close friends with an allegedly Buddhist monk who was into
trantric stuff. (He told me, We're all pretty much Taoists in here--here
being his monastery on an island rock in the middle of the Yang Tse River near
where it flows into the East China Sea. We spent two years together, so I'm not
entirely ignorant about these things. It is possible that he was chosen and
sent by his superiors (in the monastic sense) to do just what he's doing.
- Original Message
From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:55:12 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
He may be just another wannabe tantric. Though there are many
tantric
siddhis but tantrics aren't supposed to show off any of them. They
are to be left for practical applications as they arise and mostly for
healing.
Angela Mailander wrote:
It may be that this guy is doing it for the benefit of his ego. The fact
that the report made it sound that way doesn't necessarily mean that this is
really his interest. In any case, it is a good thing to publicize things
like this for the benefit of those who doubt that yogic expertise really has
something going for it. Selling a meditation technique for money is also
rather incongruous, but until it was done, not enough people could take
advantage of it and learn.
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[FairfieldLife] Maybe it's me...
...and maybe it's because I spent time in the TMO and all seems quite normal to me, but I really don't see much harm in the Tom Cruise Scientology video making the rounds: http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 Everyone seems to think it is some sort of terrible propagandist, brainwashing type of thing but I just don't see it. What do you think?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what MMY refers to as a point of consciousness originating from Fullness, a seed containing in a potential state all the forces, dimensions, time, suns, solar systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe required for the creation of a single universe. This point of consciousness could be the origin of the big bang and in this case refers to the origin of a single soul, creating its' universe and then incarnating into it, each soul creating its' own universe from this seed of consciousness. At the end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe then reverts back into the Bindu and then back into Fullness. I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. ...or banana.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fred and Debby Poneman's son
That kid is definitely going places. But, as the owner of a face with five prominent, but fairly well-placed moles, my advice for young Daniel is to get that one humongous mole on his face removed. I think the large size and poor placement of that mole detracts from his appearance. I was distracted by it during the entire video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't that great? That kid is a testament to Fred and Debbie's parenting skills. What easy self-confidence. I think all of us could learn something by watching this kid! --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen all year. It doesn't surprise me that Debby's son would have such natural self confidence and focused goals. Remember Yes! to Success? This kid was brought up by parents who know how to think! Thanks for posting this. I was taking notes from this kid on how to bring my own dreams to the next level!
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Something in me just snapped, but very quietly. I walked over to the red-faced, near-apoplectic ass- hole and took him by the perfectly-pressed collar of his perfectly-pressed shirt (mussing his perfect tie), and dragged him over to the edge of the trail that we were walking along and leaned him out over the edge. He looked down...WAY down, several hundred meters, to where he might easily wind up if he didn't pay attention. He paid attention. I don't believe you-- this sounds like a made up fantasy of yours, child. You mean like your enlightenment? :-) To you, precisely like enlightenment, simply because you don't know how to tell the difference...twit. (hook, line, and sinker...). :-) Jim, Do you actually believe that you are impressing people by pursuing this grudge against me? And by acting out with the intelligence level of a twelve-year-old? I mean, you could stand to learn a little some- thing from the events of the last couple of days. People here on this forum like Nablus, ferchissakes, preferred believing that sandiego108 wasn't you to believing that you -- Jim Flanegin -- had sunk so low in both your language and your thinking. Ask for a show of hands, Jim. After this latest meltdown, ask whether there is even ONE person on this forum who believes your claims of being enlightened. At this point I think Jim's a troll, Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:11 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise ...and do the both of you also believe that the CIA infiltrated the TMO? Probably not to the extent MMY carried on about, but they definitely had their eye on it, especially after Jonestown. I worked in the DC center after Jonestown and I'm sure our phones were tapped. Are you aware that unlawful wire-tapping is/was against the law? As such, why didn't you alert the authorities? Or the media? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maybe it's me...
What I struggle with in Scientology is the bizarre narrative regarding thetans, space-ships that look like 747's and so forth. It makes a great science fiction story, but it is rather strange that it is taken as fact by apparently intelligent people without a lick of evidence. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and maybe it's because I spent time in the TMO and all seems quite normal to me, but I really don't see much harm in the Tom Cruise Scientology video making the rounds: http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 Everyone seems to think it is some sort of terrible propagandist, brainwashing type of thing but I just don't see it. What do you think? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi steps down as head of meditation empire
http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-31636820080128 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi steps down as head of meditation empire By Emma Thomasson AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who became a guru to the Beatles, stepped down this month as the head of the organisation that brought transcendental meditation to the West, an aide said on Monday. His work is done and now he'll be concentrating on the field of silence and dedicating himself more to pure knowledge rather than administrative matters, Benjamin Feldman, finance minister for the Global Country of World Peace, told Reuters. (...) Reported to be 91, the Maharishi is fairly well, Feldman said and plans to stay in the Netherlands for the time being. Maharaja Nader Raam, a Lebanese doctor who has studied with the Maharishi for 25 years, will take over the organisation. Feldman said the Maharishi's work would live on because he has trained tens of thousands of teachers over the years (!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I see no glee coming out of the Clinton campaign. What I do see is a relentless attempt by the media and the Obama campaign to paint the Clintons as divisive, including deliberately quoting perfectly reasonable remarks by the campaign misleadingly out of context. I can't believe you feel that way about the now infamous Ronald Reagan remarks about Obama by Bill Clinton, Judy. Do you really feel that that was a perfectly reasonable remark by the campaign misleadingly out of context? Have you stopped beating your wife, Shemp? See if you can just answer the fucking question, Judy. I can't answer your question any more than you can answer mine, and for the same reason. Read what I wrote again, please. Or are you doing the same thing you always do when someone points out a consistency on your part, which is to NOT address the matter at hand? Have you stopped beating your wife? Hint: I'm schooling you in how to ask a fair question that reflects what the person you're asking actually said.
[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
I always considered alcohol as an apathetic, which when absorbed into the spunge like material of the brain, anesthetizes or numbs the brain cells. The brain has been described as the most complex creation in the universe so does anesthetizing it make sense?. It's true that brain cells well 'wake up' eventually after being anesthetized but over time, they simply die. My brother drank wine with his meals after believing in the horse shit about how good it is for the heart and then quit this ridiculous habit. He told me after being off wine for sometime, that his mind was so clear, he didn't know what to do with himself. The definition of an alcoholic is one who likes to feel dullness at least once a day. My daughter who attends university told me that when her friends come up to her drunk or high, she tells them, you're high or stoned, don't waste my time, get yourself in order and then come back and we'll talk.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise Are you aware that unlawful wire-tapping is/was against the law? I don’t think that ever concerned the CIA. As such, why didn't you alert the authorities? Or the media? I wouldn’t have been able to prove it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that for any knowledge to be possible, there has to be that bindu point that includes all knowledge and this point is omnipresent. Based on what I am learning in the chat group of physicists and mathematicians that I belong to, the big bang is definitely bindu. It is the first distinction from undifferentiated being. I love this idea that that the big bang is definitely bindu, in this case the bindu point being defined to contain a potential universe. The question then arises, where is this bindu located? Scientists haven't located exactly where the origin of the big bang is. My daughter took an astronomy class. She described to me how Hubble, after observing the motion of large numbers of galaxies, determined that they were all moving away from an original point of reference and therefore, the big bang theory was created. Thinking about this, I believed that no matter where a person existed in a universe, their perception of galaxies would be the same, all moving away from a common reference point. I then felt that this subjective observation really indicated that the perception of big bang or origins of the universe began with the point of consciousness or what I understand as the bindu of consciousness or spiritual essence. The concept that we each create one universe is an extension of this idea, our creation and therefore perception of everything stems from the existence of the bindu.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fred and Debby Poneman's son
--- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so fast there, Bub. I think in Hindu scriptures they have a complete science about what marks on the body mean. Don't know for sure, but seems that cutting one off might be, er, cutting one's self off from a cosmic channel of certain vibrations. I'm just sayin' Moles are like opinions too, so I'm guessing that everyone reading the below said, Wait a damned second. You talking to me? You don't like my beauty mark? Edg In jyotish, a mole in the face means that there is a benefic planet in the person's second house, the field of family, speech and money. So, the indication is that this person will be rich some day. The person involved appears to be focused and driven. So, there is something else that is driving his interests. The indications show that he probably has a very strong 10th house, the field of career, or the lord of the 10th house is strong and placed in benefic houses. I don't think one should take away something that is a sign of good luck for cosmetic reasons. For example, there is the son of a Spanish singer, Julio Iglesias, who became popular a few years ago for his singing ability and relationship with Kurnokova, the female tennis player. He mentioned at that time that he had removed a prominent mole on his face for cosmetic reason. As of today, I don't see that he has maintained his popularity as before. As a matter of fact, I can't even remember his first name now...lol John R. Yes, and the above anecdotal story indicates the power of jyotish...please! How in the world does the removal of a facial mark have any influence on your life at all? This is such a primitive way of thinking. The Western world has struggled for hundreds of years to climb above this type of superstitious thinking, please don't relapse into pre-scientific thought. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: That kid is definitely going places. But, as the owner of a face with five prominent, but fairly well-placed moles, my advice for young Daniel is to get that one humongous mole on his face removed. I think the large size and poor placement of that mole detracts from his appearance. I was distracted by it during the entire video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Wasn't that great? That kid is a testament to Fred and Debbie's parenting skills. What easy self-confidence. I think all of us could learn something by watching this kid! --- curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen all year. It doesn't surprise me that Debby's son would have such natural self confidence and focused goals. Remember Yes! to Success? This kid was brought up by parents who know how to think! Thanks for posting this. I was taking notes from this kid on how to bring my own dreams to the next level! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always considered alcohol as an apathetic, which when absorbed into the spunge like material of the brain, anesthetizes or numbs the brain cells. The brain has been described as the most complex creation in the universe so does anesthetizing it make sense?. It's true that brain cells well 'wake up' eventually after being anesthetized but over time, they simply die. My brother drank wine with his meals after believing in the horse shit about how good it is for the heart and then quit this ridiculous habit. He told me after being off wine for sometime, that his mind was so clear, he didn't know what to do with himself. The definition of an alcoholic is one who likes to feel dullness at least once a day. I'm sorry that your body is so out of balance that it can't handle a glass of wine without becoming dull. But to believe that this disability makes you better than those who do not have such a limitation? Get a life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:99
dude, where's your post in all that? ;-) --- nadarrombus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up control of and management of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas -- that have taken over have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone the extra mile to solidify the religious nature of the Movement. This supports the theory that I have presented on this forum from time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the TM is not a religion or philosophy tenet of the TM Program because he was badgered to do so by the sycophants that have surrounded him for the past 35 years. And now those very sychophants have become the gate-keepers. They wore the poor man down by continually demanding that he give them the real knowledge despite his continual admonitions that the TM technique was the full and complete program. Well, Maharishi may be enlightened but he is only human. And at some point he threw his hands up and said: Okay, if you want 'the real knowledge' I guess that's what I have to GIVE you. So now we've got THIS catastrophy on our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut butter, etc. Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the ship now and, presto!, we're prostrating once a day for the next month. Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to the alter? Yeah, and bring some of those briquettes, too, while you're at it... Man, I'm in a mood to laugh, laugh, laugh. Thank you. I haven't had such belly laughs in years. But let me try to understand your arguments. You're saying that Maharishi did not have a hidden agenda of using the West to awaken the East, of spreading Maharishi brand Hinduism throughout the world? Yes, he had an agenda but, no, it wasn't hidden. He told us quite explicitly what he was doing by packaging TM as a non-denominational, non-belief, non-religious program. And, no, I truly believe it wasn't a case of him thinking: TM is part of the Hindu religion and, therefore, I have to disguise it in order for the suckers of the West to buy into it. To him, TM was very much a universal thing that was separate and apart from his own personal Hinduism and could, on its own, stand apart from the trappings of religion. And it was with that very worldview that he packaged TM and, successfully, brought it into the world. And that's how things were progressing until about 1977-9 when things started falling apart, largely from his own doing. And I refer to an abandonment of the above described universal non-religious approach. This of course runs counter to the way it was explained to us wide eyed children: that Maharishi was giving us what we needed at the time and or that our raising the world's consciousness allowed the Maha Rishi to cognize more and more of the Vedic truth, or as I always believed, to pull all of this shit out of his ass. I don't know who was explaining all this to you or whether it was done in some official capacity. But I can tell you what I was taught as both a meditator who learned TM from the 7-step program and as a teacher in Teacher Training and that was that the TM Program was (1) not a religion; (2) not a philosophy or belief; and (3) the organisation taking on the responsibility of disseminating this knowledge would itself embody those very principles (because to do otherwise would be to stop being universal and therefore alienate some potential practitioners of TM). Dr. BM doesn't just have those funny initials for nothing. Of course we've read which group of great seers and Shankaracharias granted him the title he scribbled on that stationary in London. Let me speak a bit more sweetly and say that he pulled that one out of the air as well. I don't quite get your problem with this becoming a religion. As religions go, I would probably be the first in line to sign up. But once it is a religion, you lose the potential to get 99% of the people on the planet to sign up. That's not being universal. Hey, I'd love to have a guru and sit cross-legged on the Ganges at the feet of a master and get darshan and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:99% of tmo people are off the program!!!!
Sucking on Krishna's toes? Oh man, do tell! --- nadarrombus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are right about this. on the ia course when maharishi was looking for experiences i think he just wanted the group to affirm that nothing was needed but self refferal. he said he was looking for the nothing experience. instead people gave him weird stuff like sucking krishnas toe or bubbles of veda. god the ladies would go on about their feelings like crazy and he would just say continue with the rounding. we need to reject the chance that this thing will turn into buddhism or worse. the buddhas last words were dont worship me, dont follow me, dont make statues of me... look what happened to it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up control of and management of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas -- that have taken over have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone the extra mile to solidify the religious nature of the Movement. This supports the theory that I have presented on this forum from time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the TM is not a religion or philosophy tenet of the TM Program because he was badgered to do so by the sycophants that have surrounded him for the past 35 years. And now those very sychophants have become the gate-keepers. They wore the poor man down by continually demanding that he give them the real knowledge despite his continual admonitions that the TM technique was the full and complete program. Well, Maharishi may be enlightened but he is only human. And at some point he threw his hands up and said: Okay, if you want 'the real knowledge' I guess that's what I have to GIVE you. So now we've got THIS catastrophy on our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut butter, etc. Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the ship now and, presto!, we're prostrating once a day for the next month. Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to the alter? Yeah, and bring some of those briquettes, too, while you're at it... Man, I'm in a mood to laugh, laugh, laugh. Thank you. I haven't had such belly laughs in years. But let me try to understand your arguments. You're saying that Maharishi did not have a hidden agenda of using the West to awaken the East, of spreading Maharishi brand Hinduism throughout the world? Yes, he had an agenda but, no, it wasn't hidden. He told us quite explicitly what he was doing by packaging TM as a non-denominational, non-belief, non-religious program. And, no, I truly believe it wasn't a case of him thinking: TM is part of the Hindu religion and, therefore, I have to disguise it in order for the suckers of the West to buy into it. To him, TM was very much a universal thing that was separate and apart from his own personal Hinduism and could, on its own, stand apart from the trappings of religion. And it was with that very worldview that he packaged TM and, successfully, brought it into the world. And that's how things were progressing until about 1977-9 when things started falling apart, largely from his own doing. And I refer to an abandonment of the above described universal non-religious approach. This of course runs counter to the way it was explained to us wide eyed children: that Maharishi was giving us what we needed at the time and or that our raising the world's consciousness allowed the Maha Rishi to cognize more and more of the Vedic truth, or as I always believed, to pull all of this shit out of his ass. I don't know who was explaining all this to you or whether it was done in some official capacity. But I can tell you what I was taught as both a meditator who learned TM from the 7-step program and as a teacher in Teacher Training and that was that the TM Program was (1) not a religion; (2) not a philosophy or belief; and (3) the organisation taking on the responsibility of disseminating this knowledge would itself embody those very principles (because to do otherwise would be to stop being universal and therefore alienate some potential practitioners of TM). Dr. BM doesn't just have those funny initials
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
He nailed it! Poor Tom! --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://youtube.com/watch?v=fYBTlI1-fHg This is my favorite goofing on Tom video. Craig Ferguson really nails it! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: ...and maybe it's because I spent time in the TMO and all seems quite normal to me, but I really don't see much harm in the Tom Cruise Scientology video making the rounds: http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 Everyone seems to think it is some sort of terrible propagandist, brainwashing type of thing but I just don't see it. What do you think? I think that anyone who claims to be the ONLY one who can really help at an accident scene, and who isn't an EMT, has been drinking the coolaid a bit too much. I find his claim that Scientologists are the experts on the human mind to be delusional. His claim about how SP's can't come around him was specifically refuted by Matt Lauer's interview which exposed his wacky perspective on psychiatry. Contrary to his claim in movement terms, he didn't avert the danger before it arose by his magical state of mind. He drips with the unpleasant quality of taking himself waay too seriously. His delight in everything he says, and his inappropriate projectile laughter, make him one of the most entertaining weirdos to come along in a long time. I could watch that tape every day and not tire of it. Then you'll probably also really enjoy this one: Tom Cruise Scientology-Constipation Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jqD_8IQpMfeature=related To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fred and Debby Poneman's son
Alex, give me a call, we can work through your mole issues in a safe, supportive environment. ;-) --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That kid is definitely going places. But, as the owner of a face with five prominent, but fairly well-placed moles, my advice for young Daniel is to get that one humongous mole on his face removed. I think the large size and poor placement of that mole detracts from his appearance. I was distracted by it during the entire video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't that great? That kid is a testament to Fred and Debbie's parenting skills. What easy self-confidence. I think all of us could learn something by watching this kid! --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen all year. It doesn't surprise me that Debby's son would have such natural self confidence and focused goals. Remember Yes! to Success? This kid was brought up by parents who know how to think! Thanks for posting this. I was taking notes from this kid on how to bring my own dreams to the next level! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title
---Thanks, I always pray for the dead. I have visitations now and then from my deceased relatives in the dream state. As Adi Da says, while physically alive, you make mind, but after departing from the physical world, mind makes you. In other words, the various mental constructions that people set into motion along with the emotional charge of engrams tends to create a type of mental prison after death. Techniques along the line of the Tibetan Book of the Dead are designed to blast through the mental encrustations and assist the person into the higher realms, possibly right into the Pure Light of the Void. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Archer et al, I tried to post to this thread last night but cannot find it. I may have done something wrong. Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my friend Scott Girard from high school and college, I would like to simply repeat my request that, as there appears to be no adult supervision on this discussion group, perhaps all of you might take your little arguments about exercise and your vicious threats against each other to a different subject line in order to stop the disrespect you are bringing to the name of a good and gentle man. This is precisely the kind of childishness that would have upset Scott the most. Were he to have learned that so many people have time to criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names, he would have been saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of you to rise above it, to seek to spend your limited time here on more significant matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop with the childish name-calling and meaningless physical threats. So, please, start a thread called To exercise or not or something like that and let poor Scott and his memory actually begin to rest in peace. Tim Rowan Colorado Springs No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and maybe it's because I spent time in the TMO and all seems quite normal to me, but I really don't see much harm in the Tom Cruise Scientology video making the rounds: http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 Everyone seems to think it is some sort of terrible propagandist, brainwashing type of thing but I just don't see it. What do you think? I think that anyone who claims to be the ONLY one who can really help at an accident scene, and who isn't an EMT, has been drinking the coolaid a bit too much. I find his claim that Scientologists are the experts on the human mind to be delusional. His claim about how SP's can't come around him was specifically refuted by Matt Lauer's interview which exposed his wacky perspective on psychiatry. Contrary to his claim in movement terms, he didn't avert the danger before it arose by his magical state of mind. He drips with the unpleasant quality of taking himself waay too seriously. His delight in everything he says, and his inappropriate projectile laughter, make him one of the most entertaining weirdos to come along in a long time. I could watch that tape every day and not tire of it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I see no glee coming out of the Clinton campaign. What I do see is a relentless attempt by the media and the Obama campaign to paint the Clintons as divisive, including deliberately quoting perfectly reasonable remarks by the campaign misleadingly out of context. I can't believe you feel that way about the now infamous Ronald Reagan remarks about Obama by Bill Clinton, Judy. Do you really feel that that was a perfectly reasonable remark by the campaign misleadingly out of context? Have you stopped beating your wife, Shemp? Come again?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live - Lightning Crashes [death, rebirth and an angel too]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice song. I like the guy's voice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOculxtdX8 This version is even better by the guy. His voice penetrates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--QBj4OyAaMNR=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Questions for the Clintons By BOB HERBERT Published: January 26, 2008 snip Bill Clinton, in his over-the-top advocacy of his wife's candidacy, has at times sounded like a man who's gone off his medication. And some of the Clinton surrogates have been flat-out reprehensible. snip And then there was Bob Kerrey, the former senator and another Clinton supporter, who slimed up the campaign with the following comments: It's probably not something that appeals to him, but I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim. There's a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal. Pressing the point, Mr. Kerrey told CNN's John King: I've watched the blogs try to say that you can't trust him because he spent a little bit of time in a secular madrassa. I feel quite the opposite. Get it? Yes. Sounds to me like Kerrey is trying to counter the false rumor that Obama is a Muslim. How that could be considered a slime is rather strange; to call it a slime appears to be an attempt to slime the Clinton campaign. Let's start with the fact that Mr. Obama never attended a madrassa, and that there is no such thing as a secular madrassa. A madrassa is a religious school. Madrassa is the Arabic word for school--any kind of school, secular or religious. So we're not starting with a fact at all. snip The Clinton camp knows what it's doing, and its slimy maneuvers have been working. Bob Kerrey apologized and Andrew Young said at the time of his comment that he was just fooling around. But the damage to Senator Obama has been real, and so have the benefits to Senator Clinton of these and other lowlife tactics. Consider, for example, the following Web posting (misspellings and all) from a mainstream news blog on Jan. 13: omg people get a grip. Can you imagine calling our president barak hussien obama ... I cant, I pray no one would be disrespectful enough to put this man in our whitehouse. Cherry-picking one nasty *comment* (not a posting) on a blog as if it were somehow representative of the purported damage the Clinton campaign is doing to Obama is really beneath contempt. Herbert knows better, but he knows many of his readers will not. snip Still, it's legitimate to ask, given the destructive developments of the last few weeks, whether the Clintons are capable of being anything but divisive. The electorate seems more polarized now than it was just a few weeks ago, and the Clintons have seemed positively gleeful in that atmosphere. I see no glee coming out of the Clinton campaign. What I do see is a relentless attempt by the media and the Obama campaign to paint the Clintons as divisive, including deliberately quoting perfectly reasonable remarks by the campaign misleadingly out of context. I can't believe you feel that way about the now infamous Ronald Reagan remarks about Obama by Bill Clinton, Judy. Do you really feel that that was a perfectly reasonable remark by the campaign misleadingly out of context?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fred and Debby Poneman's son
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't that great? That kid is a testament to Fred and Debbie's parenting skills. What easy self-confidence. I think all of us could learn something by watching this kid! I didn't know Fred but I knew Debby when we were students. She is an exceptional human. So I've been deconstructing Dan's rejection strategy as he pitches his site, which would help me in pitching my shows. I think part of the key is that he goes in with nothing to lose. Just last week I had braces on so I don't expect them to talk with me. He doesn't take himself too seriously. (a tad bit easier at 16 then 50!) But it allows him tremendous freedom to ask for what he wants from anybody. By coming in with no ego to protect, he doesn't have to be defensive about people taking him seriously. He takes himself seriously in a healthy way, but it is totally unconnected from people's reactions to him. I'm idealizing a bit here but this POV is so useful for my own work. The kid's got it going on and big high five for great parenting. (I raised two well behaved cats and that was my parenting skills limit!) --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen all year. It doesn't surprise me that Debby's son would have such natural self confidence and focused goals. Remember Yes! to Success? This kid was brought up by parents who know how to think! Thanks for posting this. I was taking notes from this kid on how to bring my own dreams to the next level! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Wow! What a mature kid. --- Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred and Debby Poneman's son HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1 Fred and Debby are in this too in a couple of places. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
He may be just another wannabe tantric. Though there are many tantric siddhis but tantrics aren't supposed to show off any of them. They are to be left for practical applications as they arise and mostly for healing. Angela Mailander wrote: It may be that this guy is doing it for the benefit of his ego. The fact that the report made it sound that way doesn't necessarily mean that this is really his interest. In any case, it is a good thing to publicize things like this for the benefit of those who doubt that yogic expertise really has something going for it. Selling a meditation technique for money is also rather incongruous, but until it was done, not enough people could take advantage of it and learn.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fYBTlI1-fHg This is my favorite goofing on Tom video. Craig Ferguson really nails it! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: ...and maybe it's because I spent time in the TMO and all seems quite normal to me, but I really don't see much harm in the Tom Cruise Scientology video making the rounds: http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 Everyone seems to think it is some sort of terrible propagandist, brainwashing type of thing but I just don't see it. What do you think? I think that anyone who claims to be the ONLY one who can really help at an accident scene, and who isn't an EMT, has been drinking the coolaid a bit too much. I find his claim that Scientologists are the experts on the human mind to be delusional. His claim about how SP's can't come around him was specifically refuted by Matt Lauer's interview which exposed his wacky perspective on psychiatry. Contrary to his claim in movement terms, he didn't avert the danger before it arose by his magical state of mind. He drips with the unpleasant quality of taking himself waay too seriously. His delight in everything he says, and his inappropriate projectile laughter, make him one of the most entertaining weirdos to come along in a long time. I could watch that tape every day and not tire of it. Then you'll probably also really enjoy this one: Tom Cruise Scientology-Constipation Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jqD_8IQpMfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re:99% of tmo people are off the program!!!!
you are right about this. on the ia course when maharishi was looking for experiences i think he just wanted the group to affirm that nothing was needed but self refferal. he said he was looking for the nothing experience. instead people gave him weird stuff like sucking krishnas toe or bubbles of veda. god the ladies would go on about their feelings like crazy and he would just say continue with the rounding. we need to reject the chance that this thing will turn into buddhism or worse. the buddhas last words were dont worship me, dont follow me, dont make statues of me... look what happened to it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up control of and management of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas -- that have taken over have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone the extra mile to solidify the religious nature of the Movement. This supports the theory that I have presented on this forum from time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the TM is not a religion or philosophy tenet of the TM Program because he was badgered to do so by the sycophants that have surrounded him for the past 35 years. And now those very sychophants have become the gate-keepers. They wore the poor man down by continually demanding that he give them the real knowledge despite his continual admonitions that the TM technique was the full and complete program. Well, Maharishi may be enlightened but he is only human. And at some point he threw his hands up and said: Okay, if you want 'the real knowledge' I guess that's what I have to GIVE you. So now we've got THIS catastrophy on our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut butter, etc. Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the ship now and, presto!, we're prostrating once a day for the next month. Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to the alter? Yeah, and bring some of those briquettes, too, while you're at it... Man, I'm in a mood to laugh, laugh, laugh. Thank you. I haven't had such belly laughs in years. But let me try to understand your arguments. You're saying that Maharishi did not have a hidden agenda of using the West to awaken the East, of spreading Maharishi brand Hinduism throughout the world? Yes, he had an agenda but, no, it wasn't hidden. He told us quite explicitly what he was doing by packaging TM as a non-denominational, non-belief, non-religious program. And, no, I truly believe it wasn't a case of him thinking: TM is part of the Hindu religion and, therefore, I have to disguise it in order for the suckers of the West to buy into it. To him, TM was very much a universal thing that was separate and apart from his own personal Hinduism and could, on its own, stand apart from the trappings of religion. And it was with that very worldview that he packaged TM and, successfully, brought it into the world. And that's how things were progressing until about 1977-9 when things started falling apart, largely from his own doing. And I refer to an abandonment of the above described universal non-religious approach. This of course runs counter to the way it was explained to us wide eyed children: that Maharishi was giving us what we needed at the time and or that our raising the world's consciousness allowed the Maha Rishi to cognize more and more of the Vedic truth, or as I always believed, to pull all of this shit out of his ass. I don't know who was explaining all this to you or whether it was done in some official capacity. But I can tell you what I was taught as both a meditator who learned TM from the 7-step program and as a teacher in Teacher Training and that was that the TM Program was (1) not a religion; (2) not a philosophy or belief; and (3) the organisation taking on the responsibility of disseminating this knowledge would itself embody those very principles (because to do otherwise would be to stop being universal and therefore alienate some potential practitioners of TM). Dr. BM doesn't just have those funny initials for nothing. Of course we've read which group of great seers and Shankaracharias granted him the title he scribbled on that stationary in London. Let me speak a bit more sweetly and say that he pulled that one out of the air as well. I don't quite get your problem
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:07 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Nab, Americans seem to occupy a special place in your heart. Similar, I'm sure, to the place you occupy in our own. I do not dislike them, in fact I have several americans friends from my travels there. Very nice people. But since the CIA are (mostly) americans it is natural to be sceptical. It's not only that president of yours that makes the americans look like fools the world over, CIA is very busy doing the same thing. And, like their president, they are in the business of creating havoc around the world. Hey Nabby, there's a point that you and I agree on. ...and do the both of you also believe that the CIA infiltrated the TMO? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and maybe it's because I spent time in the TMO and all seems quite normal to me, but I really don't see much harm in the Tom Cruise Scientology video making the rounds: http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 Everyone seems to think it is some sort of terrible propagandist, brainwashing type of thing but I just don't see it. What do you think? I think that anyone who claims to be the ONLY one who can really help at an accident scene, and who isn't an EMT, has been drinking the coolaid a bit too much. I find his claim that Scientologists are the experts on the human mind to be delusional. His claim about how SP's can't come around him was specifically refuted by Matt Lauer's interview which exposed his wacky perspective on psychiatry. Contrary to his claim in movement terms, he didn't avert the danger before it arose by his magical state of mind. He drips with the unpleasant quality of taking himself waay too seriously. His delight in everything he says, and his inappropriate projectile laughter, make him one of the most entertaining weirdos to come along in a long time. I could watch that tape every day and not tire of it. I think Tom's problem is that he suffers from such early success that nobody around him told him when he acted like an asshole. He's been surrounded by synchophants and toadies his whole life and he has a very warped view of his fascinating self. Although I was very impressed to hear that he went over to Brook Shields house and apologized to her in person for his profoundly misinformed views on Post Partum Depression and glib comments regarding her appropriate treatment. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exercise may not be a critical factor in preventing heart disease, which is probably due to diet factors: http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/140/12/1007 Conclusions: Aerobic physical exercise did not attenuate progression of atherosclerosis, except in a subgroup of men not taking statins. Except in a subgroup of men *not* taking statins? So, aerobic physical exercise is ineffective for men who do take statins and effective for men who don't? Then, Duh!, do aerobic physical exercise and don't take statins! Statin drugs are a huge scam. Big Pharma is raking in billions of dollars on drugs that, for the vast majority of users, provide no benefit in terms of decreased all-cause mortality. The only statin users who do benefit from them are men under the age of 65 with a history of a heart attack, and the benefit isn't all that great.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing coming out of the mouths of the Clinton's is innocent, it's very calculated and subtle. And whenever they or their surrogates are called on the carpet to explain what they said, they are prepared with an innocent explanation from how something was originally taken. So, every politician is expected to speak carefully and never make a statement that could be interpreted as racist, sexist, or any other ist. But when they attempt to speak carefully, they are called calculating. Or if they didn't speak carefully, the mistake was calculating. Everything gets interpreted by the listener in a way that reinforces their own positions. As someone who spends her time with politicians, I know that the press plays a large part in setting the divisive tone. Everything is the horse race. Everything you say will get repeated, context be damned. Because Clnton, Obama, and Edwards are not very far apart on the issues, I think this can lead to manufactured disputes, whether manufactured by the press or or the candidates. I hope they do not go too far as they need to all come together in the end. Charisma plays a huge role in this country. Reagan had it. Bill Clinton had it. Even Bush had a fair amount of it. Remember people saying how they liked the guy, but not his policies? Of the democratic candidates, Obama seems to have the most charismatic appeal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
suziezuzie My daughter who attends university told me that when her friends come up to her drunk or high, she tells them, you're high or stoned, don't waste my time, get yourself in order and then come back and we'll talk. Edg: Would your daughter also say that to someone who's tamping down their emotions with Xanax or other medical chemicals? A lot of folks use alcohol for medicine that's cheap and works. Gotta have some compassion for those who are driven into corners they simply cannot imagine escaping. This isn't Sat Yuga where a sniff a cork would lower one's ability to, well, smell God. This is Kali, they say, and I believe it. With murderers in high office, with war and the down-trodden on every continent, nay, in every single country, a brewski after a day fending off the wild dogs of the mercantile might just be a better thing to do than spending the time investing in egoic angst. What's better a numb mind or a roiling mind? A very hard call for those who do pop a top. And the euphoria of alcohol is, if anything, as deep a metaphor for bliss as life ever will offer to most folks on Earthsurely, spiritually, we aim at just such a background feeling of well being, and this, however mis-used according to dogma, can be a spiritual lesson symbolically. Like tasting honey and thinking that one could be this pleased in the afterlife not just on the tongue but by every sense imaginable, just so getting high can serve. Robert DeRopp wrote a book called The Master Game in which he said that LSD etc. experiences could reveal a target that the sober brain could strive for. Who here does not have MANY tales of those in their families who struggle with some form of chemical use? Those who eat nothing but industrial pastes, goos, and rainbow colors, could equally be said to be addicted users whose brains are saturated with the toxins allowed in foods today -- anyone here willing to drink a glass of water with a teaspoon of MSG dissolved in it? What does one think when one sees a 55 gallon drum of it in a food factory? Consult the GRAS list for where each of us is compromising one's chemical virginity. Thank your stars if you do not have life knocking on your door with the fever of a SWAT team. In a foxhole, everyone believes in God and a good stiff drink! One of my elementary school teachers confessed to my class, I smoked while being a soldier in WWII, but everyone did. Mr. Sendrak, thanks -- that was what I needed then, and just now I got a chance to use your wisdom. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always considered alcohol as an apathetic, which when absorbed into the spunge like material of the brain, anesthetizes or numbs the brain cells. The brain has been described as the most complex creation in the universe so does anesthetizing it make sense?. It's true that brain cells well 'wake up' eventually after being anesthetized but over time, they simply die. My brother drank wine with his meals after believing in the horse shit about how good it is for the heart and then quit this ridiculous habit. He told me after being off wine for sometime, that his mind was so clear, he didn't know what to do with himself. The definition of an alcoholic is one who likes to feel dullness at least once a day. My daughter who attends university told me that when her friends come up to her drunk or high, she tells them, you're high or stoned, don't waste my time, get yourself in order and then come back and we'll talk.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:11 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard / Vedic exercise ...and do the both of you also believe that the CIA infiltrated the TMO? Probably not to the extent MMY carried on about, but they definitely had their eye on it, especially after Jonestown. I worked in the DC center after Jonestown and I’m sure our phones were tapped. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness
sandiego108 writes snipped: I think what Maharishi says about the Bindu is that it contains all that there is, within all that there is. So there is not a Bindu of singularity inside of that which is not of the same essential nature as the Bindu. Rather, from any point in all that there is, that chosen point can be isolated, the Bindu point, which then is found to also contain all that there is; a point of Infinity, within Infinity. There is nothing which is not Bindu. Tom T: When the Knowing is Known by the ultimate Knower there is no where left to go. This is the one and only Knower knowing its creation through its own Self. From the totality of creation to point value it is all Knower and Knower can know through the totality and the point value simultaneously. All the ocean in a drop. Same. TomT
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to worry! The Kennedy's have endorsed Barack Hussein Obama, or is that a kiss of *death*, politically speaking? Well, I'm not sure... Barack's middle name could be a problem for some people, although it's really not his fault, right? But some people will use this to push people's buttons- quite common in some decietful political circles. Could be Kennedy's endorsement will be the 'kiss of death' for the Clinton campaign, which had been begging for his endorsement; All I know is: the Clintons have definitely been knocked down a few pegs, and some light has been shed on the way they operate, pitting one against the other.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to worry! The Kennedy's have endorsed Barack Hussein Obama, or is that a kiss of *death*, politically speaking? Hardly. Only those who would never vote for a Democrat in the first place would even think of posing such a question. (And for the record, some of the Kennedy's [sic] have endorsed Clinton.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
Very funny. I just watched the original TC video all over again and it really is so disturbing in its narcissism. Kind of reminds me of myself talking about the perfection of TM 30 years ago! --- do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: ...and maybe it's because I spent time in the TMO and all seems quite normal to me, but I really don't see much harm in the Tom Cruise Scientology video making the rounds: http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 Everyone seems to think it is some sort of terrible propagandist, brainwashing type of thing but I just don't see it. What do you think? I think that anyone who claims to be the ONLY one who can really help at an accident scene, and who isn't an EMT, has been drinking the coolaid a bit too much. I find his claim that Scientologists are the experts on the human mind to be delusional. His claim about how SP's can't come around him was specifically refuted by Matt Lauer's interview which exposed his wacky perspective on psychiatry. Contrary to his claim in movement terms, he didn't avert the danger before it arose by his magical state of mind. He drips with the unpleasant quality of taking himself waay too seriously. His delight in everything he says, and his inappropriate projectile laughter, make him one of the most entertaining weirdos to come along in a long time. I could watch that tape every day and not tire of it. Then you'll probably also really enjoy this one: Tom Cruise Scientology-Constipation Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jqD_8IQpMfeature=related To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
nab wrote: Getting rid of freaking violent types like you feels good too. :-) TurquoiseB wrote: If you EVER speak to me again on this course, that is where I will throw you. Isn't this just like a TBer? Goes bananas and threatens to kill the meditation camp manager. Can't even keep his dirty mouth shut for a walk in nature without spouting some obscene reference to his backside. Then, when told to shut the phuck up, he retaliates by causing a scene. Can't even take a walk and enjoy the silence of nature without the hearing some over-the-top TMer blabbing and making wise-acre jokes. I'm surprised the other TBers didn't gang up on the blabber and kick him out on the spot. I still remember the one that pushed me -- and, as it turns out, almost him -- over the edge. I was having some fun talking with my buddy about some- thing more interesting than cows and green-flowing- fucking-soma and we laughed out loud and he came running over and actually *yelled* at us and screamed, YOU! YOU are the reason Maharishi hasn't visited our course! You shame his teachings by laughing like this when you should be in silence! Something in me just snapped, but very quietly. I walked over to the red-faced, near-apoplectic ass- hole and took him by the perfectly-pressed collar of his perfectly-pressed shirt (mussing his perfect tie), and dragged him over to the edge of the trail that we were walking along and leaned him out over the edge. He looked down...WAY down, several hundred meters, to where he might easily wind up if he didn't pay attention. He paid attention. I said, quietly, I have taken just about all of your bullshit I can. Go away and bother me no more. Look down. If you EVER speak to me again on this course, that is where I will throw you. Do you understand?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I struggle with in Scientology is the bizarre narrative regarding thetans, space-ships that look like 747's and so forth. It makes a great science fiction story, but it is rather strange that it is taken as fact by apparently intelligent people without a lick of evidence. Especially weird, given that the creator of the religion was a science fiction writer and the religion reads like a nove.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I struggle with in Scientology is the bizarre narrative regarding thetans, space-ships that look like 747's and so forth. It makes a great science fiction story, but it is rather strange that it is taken as fact by apparently intelligent people without a lick of evidence. Especially weird, given that the creator of the religion was a science fiction writer and the religion reads like a novel.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title
Thanks for the chiding. I have gotten slack in renaming my titles. I should set a better example. That said, I think this phenomenon is typical of most largely unmonitored boards -- the threads almost universally devolve into a flurry of other topics. Often immediately. Your heads-up comes precisely on a thread that certainly shows the downside of such posting immorality. I felt it, and even though I continued to post under the thread, there was a queasy discomfort knocking at my knows-better door for me to do so, since it was Scott's last time in the spotlight, and I ascribe to speaking well of the dead. My bad. That said, how to fix this? I have utterly no hope of getting many posters here to follow this simple rule. The traditional trolls certainly will not care, and even the well-meaning-ers can find it hard to resist doing a quick posting back at someone who is being off topic, and there's the additional and significant possibility that another topic title (which may or may not signal to the off-topic-poster that a reply is there under a differing title) will not be read. That's where I get hard up -- deciding whether the off-topic-ness is so onerous that a new title is needed that my urgency to communicate and reply must take second place. I pledge to try to rename my titles. Thanks again for the tender feeling level lesson. Jai Guru Dev! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Archer et al, I tried to post to this thread last night but cannot find it. I may have done something wrong. Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my friend Scott Girard from high school and college, I would like to simply repeat my request that, as there appears to be no adult supervision on this discussion group, perhaps all of you might take your little arguments about exercise and your vicious threats against each other to a different subject line in order to stop the disrespect you are bringing to the name of a good and gentle man. This is precisely the kind of childishness that would have upset Scott the most. Were he to have learned that so many people have time to criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names, he would have been saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of you to rise above it, to seek to spend your limited time here on more significant matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop with the childish name-calling and meaningless physical threats. So, please, start a thread called To exercise or not or something like that and let poor Scott and his memory actually begin to rest in peace. Tim Rowan Colorado Springs No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
Amen, Ruth. It doesn't have to one thing or the other; we're all just looking for the line that defines our life and then follow it with the least amount of hullabaloo. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: And you believing that alcohol is a bad thing doesn't make alcohol a bad thing. :-) A balanced life is a good thing. Be active, drink a little, eat a moderate amount. Meditate. Don't work too hard. Do good. Be kind.
[FairfieldLife] Live - Lightning Crashes [death, rebirth and an angel too]
Nice song. I like the guy's voice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOculxtdX8
[FairfieldLife] Re:99
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up control of and management of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas -- that have taken over have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone the extra mile to solidify the religious nature of the Movement. This supports the theory that I have presented on this forum from time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the TM is not a religion or philosophy tenet of the TM Program because he was badgered to do so by the sycophants that have surrounded him for the past 35 years. And now those very sychophants have become the gate-keepers. They wore the poor man down by continually demanding that he give them the real knowledge despite his continual admonitions that the TM technique was the full and complete program. Well, Maharishi may be enlightened but he is only human. And at some point he threw his hands up and said: Okay, if you want 'the real knowledge' I guess that's what I have to GIVE you. So now we've got THIS catastrophy on our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut butter, etc. Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the ship now and, presto!, we're prostrating once a day for the next month. Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to the alter? Yeah, and bring some of those briquettes, too, while you're at it... Man, I'm in a mood to laugh, laugh, laugh. Thank you. I haven't had such belly laughs in years. But let me try to understand your arguments. You're saying that Maharishi did not have a hidden agenda of using the West to awaken the East, of spreading Maharishi brand Hinduism throughout the world? Yes, he had an agenda but, no, it wasn't hidden. He told us quite explicitly what he was doing by packaging TM as a non-denominational, non-belief, non-religious program. And, no, I truly believe it wasn't a case of him thinking: TM is part of the Hindu religion and, therefore, I have to disguise it in order for the suckers of the West to buy into it. To him, TM was very much a universal thing that was separate and apart from his own personal Hinduism and could, on its own, stand apart from the trappings of religion. And it was with that very worldview that he packaged TM and, successfully, brought it into the world. And that's how things were progressing until about 1977-9 when things started falling apart, largely from his own doing. And I refer to an abandonment of the above described universal non-religious approach. This of course runs counter to the way it was explained to us wide eyed children: that Maharishi was giving us what we needed at the time and or that our raising the world's consciousness allowed the Maha Rishi to cognize more and more of the Vedic truth, or as I always believed, to pull all of this shit out of his ass. I don't know who was explaining all this to you or whether it was done in some official capacity. But I can tell you what I was taught as both a meditator who learned TM from the 7-step program and as a teacher in Teacher Training and that was that the TM Program was (1) not a religion; (2) not a philosophy or belief; and (3) the organisation taking on the responsibility of disseminating this knowledge would itself embody those very principles (because to do otherwise would be to stop being universal and therefore alienate some potential practitioners of TM). Dr. BM doesn't just have those funny initials for nothing. Of course we've read which group of great seers and Shankaracharias granted him the title he scribbled on that stationary in London. Let me speak a bit more sweetly and say that he pulled that one out of the air as well. I don't quite get your problem with this becoming a religion. As religions go, I would probably be the first in line to sign up. But once it is a religion, you lose the potential to get 99% of the people on the planet to sign up. That's not being universal. Hey, I'd love to have a guru and sit cross-legged on the Ganges at the feet of a master and get darshan and all that. Must be a wonderful path! But that's not the path I chose for myself; I actually bought into the whole TM 20 minutes twice a day and then go into activity and, according to one's own religion and values and traditions and common sense, perform action. I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
I don't understand the what's the point question. Of course there is no
immediate usefulness I can think of, but the FACT of controlling what we
ordinarily think of as beyond our control is not only interesting but important
to explore for humankind.
- Original Message
From: feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:24:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
Those of us who live in Iowa have plenty of practice at living in
ice!
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
Yes, but what's the point?
He can live in places no-one else wants to live in, but he have some
trouble with gobal warming.
OffWorld
Tantric master breaks ice record in NYC
Sun Jan 27, 2:03 PM ET
NEW YORK - A man who calls himself a tantric master broke his own
world record by standing engulfed in ice for 72 minutes.
Wim Hof, 48, stood on a Manhattan street in a clear container filled
with ice for an hour and 12 minutes Saturday.
Hof said he survives by controlling his body temperature through
tantric meditation. Tantra is an Eastern tradition of ritual and
meditation said to bring followers closer to their chosen deities.
Hof set the world record for full body ice contact endurance in
2004,
when he immersed himself in ice for an hour and eight minutes.
Hof's feat kicked off BRAINWAVE, a five-month series of events in
New
York exploring how art, music, and meditation affect the brain.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statin drugs are a huge scam. Big Pharma is raking in billions of dollars on drugs that, for the vast majority of users, provide no benefit in terms of decreased all-cause mortality. The only statin users who do benefit from them are men under the age of 65 with a history of a heart attack, and the benefit isn't all that great. Part of the problem in evaluating the evidence is the risk is cummulative over your life. So, you might only have a 1% chance in a year of having a heart attack, but a 10% chance within 10 years. Statins are probably not a miracle drug, but don't let the pendulum swing too far the other way.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
On Jan 28, 2008, at 4:49 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very funny. I just watched the original TC video all over again and it really is so disturbing in its narcissism. Kind of reminds me of myself talking about the perfection of TM 30 years ago! You put your finger on what repulses me about it...I recognize my own past! You were a much better actor than Tom is, Curtis. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Distinctive voices of singers (Live - Lightning Crashes)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZOU8GIRUd_g Rick Astley http://youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA Tay Zonday The above two vids are of guys who on their very first note got my attention -- extremely distinctive voices right out of the chute. That plus being introduced to the world with a catchy tune really grabs the attention. There's been a lot of folks who have an ear for pitch who have a special voice that have made it big. Notably I think most female country singers have that special croak rasp in their voices, and the males have that throat tightened twangy thingy. Celine has that kind of special voice too, but her singing talent is just as special -- though her song choices are not my cup of tea. Barbara Streisand? Tony Bennett? Mel Torme? Brenda Lee? Jackson Brown? Freddy Mercury? Roy Orbison? Sting? Even Elvis? So many have taken a voice and worked it deeply for its best presentation -- like trying to find music that is perfect for, say, the cello. Gotta love it when it all comes together in a nice package of on-key, unique voice, cool song, and market timing -- even if it's not the music one listens to regularly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice song. I like the guy's voice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOculxtdX8
[FairfieldLife] Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title
Mr. Archer et al, I tried to post to this thread last night but cannot find it. I may have done something wrong. Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my friend Scott Girard from high school and college, I would like to simply repeat my request that, as there appears to be no adult supervision on this discussion group, perhaps all of you might take your little arguments about exercise and your vicious threats against each other to a different subject line in order to stop the disrespect you are bringing to the name of a good and gentle man. This is precisely the kind of childishness that would have upset Scott the most. Were he to have learned that so many people have time to criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names, he would have been saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of you to rise above it, to seek to spend your limited time here on more significant matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop with the childish name-calling and meaningless physical threats. So, please, start a thread called To exercise or not or something like that and let poor Scott and his memory actually begin to rest in peace. Tim Rowan Colorado Springs No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fred and Debby Poneman's son
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so fast there, Bub. I think in Hindu scriptures they have a complete science about what marks on the body mean. Don't know for sure, but seems that cutting one off might be, er, cutting one's self off from a cosmic channel of certain vibrations. I'm just sayin' Moles are like opinions too, so I'm guessing that everyone reading the below said, Wait a damned second. You talking to me? You don't like my beauty mark? Edg In jyotish, a mole in the face means that there is a benefic planet in the person's second house, the field of family, speech and money. So, the indication is that this person will be rich some day. The person involved appears to be focused and driven. So, there is something else that is driving his interests. The indications show that he probably has a very strong 10th house, the field of career, or the lord of the 10th house is strong and placed in benefic houses. I don't think one should take away something that is a sign of good luck for cosmetic reasons. For example, there is the son of a Spanish singer, Julio Iglesias, who became popular a few years ago for his singing ability and relationship with Kurnokova, the female tennis player. He mentioned at that time that he had removed a prominent mole on his face for cosmetic reason. As of today, I don't see that he has maintained his popularity as before. As a matter of fact, I can't even remember his first name now...lol John R. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: That kid is definitely going places. But, as the owner of a face with five prominent, but fairly well-placed moles, my advice for young Daniel is to get that one humongous mole on his face removed. I think the large size and poor placement of that mole detracts from his appearance. I was distracted by it during the entire video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Wasn't that great? That kid is a testament to Fred and Debbie's parenting skills. What easy self-confidence. I think all of us could learn something by watching this kid! --- curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen all year. It doesn't surprise me that Debby's son would have such natural self confidence and focused goals. Remember Yes! to Success? This kid was brought up by parents who know how to think! Thanks for posting this. I was taking notes from this kid on how to bring my own dreams to the next level!
[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama on emptiness
Note: forwarded message attached. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.---BeginMessage--- Title: Snow Lion Publications Newsletter Dalai Lama Quote of the Week Question: If a person views the self and other phenomena as being empty of any inherent existence, is it then, in that state, possible for them to take any animate or inanimate phenomenon as their object, and through the power of imputation or words, enable that object to actually take on a manifesting role with the qualities which we view objects to have? His Holiness: This is an instance of not properly understanding the meaning of "lack of inherent existence." If we think that "emptiness" means things cannot function, then, with an improper understanding of the view of emptiness, one will have fallen into nihilism. So, because one has failed to reconcile emptiness and the fact that things work, this view is incorrect. That is why it is said that the meaning of emptiness is to be understood in terms of dependent arising. Now, since the meaning of emptiness is to be explained in terms of dependent arising, we can only explain something as arising dependently if there is a basis, that is, some thing that is dependent. Hence, such a basis must exist. We see then that when we speak of dependent arising, we are indicating that things work. Dependent arising proves that things have no inherent existence, through the fact that things work in dependence on each other. The fact that things work and the fact that they do so in dependence, one on the other, eliminates the possibility of their being independent. This in turn precludes the possibility of inherent existence, since, to inherently exist means to be independent. Hence, the understanding of emptiness, of the the emptiness of a kind of inherent existence that is independent, boils down to understanding dependent arising. --from Answers: Discussions with Western Buddhists by the Dalai Lama, edited by Jose Ignacio Cabezon, published by Snow Lion Publications SNOW LION PUBLICATIONS is dedicated to the preservation of Tibetan Buddhism and culture by publishing books about this great tradition. Tibetan culture is seriously endangered in its homeland and is striving to continue outside of Tibet. To support this effort, in addition to publishing and distributing books, Snow Lion offers a wide range of dharma items, purchased primarily from Tibetans in exile. These include visual art and ritual objects, statues and thangkas, videos, traditional music, and many gift items offered through our webstore and "Snow Lion Buddhist News Catalog" (Newsletter)--over 2000 items--the largest selection anywhere. To browse the complete list go towww.snowlionpub.comand select any of the categories in left-hand margin. When you choose to purchase from Snow Lion you are directly supporting the large effort to publish more Buddhist texts and help the Tibetan people.THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. You are receiving this announcement from Snow Lion Publications because you have previously subscribed on our website. To continue receiving messages, we recommend that you add [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your address book. If you'd like to change or cancel your subscription, please visit our subscription pages at www.snowlionpub.com/pages/lists.php, www.snowlionpub.com/pages/unsubscribe.php,or email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please note that these announcements are also available in plain text, if you are having trouble receiving them. ANSWERS:Discussions with Western Buddhists by the Dalai Lamaedited by Jos Ignacio Cabeznmore... Contact Us: N. America:(800) 950-0313 Worldwide:(607) 273-8519 By Mail: PO Box 6483, Ithaca, NY 14851 USA By Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On the Web:www.snowlionpub.com The New Rigpa Calendar Is In! New Items Available Online: New Books New Dharma Items On Sale! Gifts Calendars General Catalog: www.snowlionpub.com Sign Up: Receive Snow
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi steps down as head of meditation em...
In a message dated 1/28/08 1:05:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Feldman said the Maharishi's work would live on because he has trained tens of thousands of teachers over the years (!). And only re-certified how many? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
In a message dated 1/28/08 12:56:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip As someone who spends her time with politicians, I know that the press plays a large part in setting the divisive tone. Everything is the horse race. Everything you say will get repeated, context be damned. Absolutely. And worse, it's a horse race in which the media pick favorites and do whatever they can to help them win. Hey, I've said for years that the media loves to build somebody up so they can tear them down when they feel like it. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi steps down as head of meditation em...
On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/08 1:05:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Feldman said the Maharishi's work would live on because he has trained tens of thousands of teachers over the years (!). And only re-certified how many? Dunno. Maybe everyone will get reprieves from the maharaja? ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fred and Debby Poneman's son
Wasn't that great? That kid is a testament to Fred and Debbie's parenting skills. What easy self-confidence. I think all of us could learn something by watching this kid! --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen all year. It doesn't surprise me that Debby's son would have such natural self confidence and focused goals. Remember Yes! to Success? This kid was brought up by parents who know how to think! Thanks for posting this. I was taking notes from this kid on how to bring my own dreams to the next level! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! What a mature kid. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred and Debby Poneman's son HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1http://www.youtube.com/user/danpon1 Fred and Debby are in this too in a couple of places. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Top Ten Rejected Titles For The George W. Bush Movie
David Letterman: 10. Jackass 3 9. The Lyin' King 8. The Departed As Of January 20th, 2009 7. Stop Or My Vice President Will Shoot 6. Dial M For Moron 5. Das Boob 4. When Sally Met Cheney's Daughter 3. White Men Can't Govern 2. The Nightmare Before Hillary 1. Raging Bull
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very funny. I just watched the original TC video all over again and it really is so disturbing in its narcissism. Kind of reminds me of myself talking about the perfection of TM 30 years ago! You put your finger on what repulses me about it...I recognize my own past! --- do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: ...and maybe it's because I spent time in the TMO and all seems quite normal to me, but I really don't see much harm in the Tom Cruise Scientology video making the rounds: http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 Everyone seems to think it is some sort of terrible propagandist, brainwashing type of thing but I just don't see it. What do you think? I think that anyone who claims to be the ONLY one who can really help at an accident scene, and who isn't an EMT, has been drinking the coolaid a bit too much. I find his claim that Scientologists are the experts on the human mind to be delusional. His claim about how SP's can't come around him was specifically refuted by Matt Lauer's interview which exposed his wacky perspective on psychiatry. Contrary to his claim in movement terms, he didn't avert the danger before it arose by his magical state of mind. He drips with the unpleasant quality of taking himself waay too seriously. His delight in everything he says, and his inappropriate projectile laughter, make him one of the most entertaining weirdos to come along in a long time. I could watch that tape every day and not tire of it. Then you'll probably also really enjoy this one: Tom Cruise Scientology-Constipation Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jqD_8IQpMfeature=related To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fred and Debby Poneman's son
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex, give me a call, we can work through your mole issues in a safe, supportive environment. ;-) Thanks, Dr. Pete, but I really think your struggle with Scientology should be a higher priority than my melanocytic naevus nervosa. --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That kid is definitely going places. But, as the owner of a face with five prominent, but fairly well-placed moles, my advice for young Daniel is to get that one humongous mole on his face removed. I think the large size and poor placement of that mole detracts from his appearance. I was distracted by it during the entire video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Wasn't that great? That kid is a testament to Fred and Debbie's parenting skills. What easy self-confidence. I think all of us could learn something by watching this kid! --- curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen all year. It doesn't surprise me that Debby's son would have such natural self confidence and focused goals. Remember Yes! to Success? This kid was brought up by parents who know how to think! Thanks for posting this. I was taking notes from this kid on how to bring my own dreams to the next level!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title
Ed wrotewrote: Thanks for the chiding. I have gotten slack in renaming my titles. I should set a better example. Yeah, stop hijacking topics and renaming them - start your own thread when you want to change the subject being discussed. Thanks.
