[FairfieldLife] MACH, the remedial education program for tech-impaired nerds
Those who read my posts (and who have a still-functional memory...have you noticed that one of the biggest complaints about Neo is not being able to rely on Search to supplement one's own failing memory) may recall that a few weeks ago I mentioned an old (in the world of cyberspace, that is) program called ELIZA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA . It was an early attempt at pseudo-AI and natural language processing that was supposed to emulate what it was like to interact with a Rogerian psychotherapist, and it worked pretty well...many were fooled into thinking they were chatting with a real human being. Now it appears that things have come full circle. Today's nerds have become so socially impaired as a result of spending all their time on the Internet and on phone text and in virtual environments that they've lost the ability to interact competently with live human beings. So the nerds at MIT have come up with a new, updated version of ELIZA called MACH (My Automated Conversation coacH) to teach people who have lost the ability to have one-on-one conversations with other live human beings to do so. If you're thinking that this is a partly veiled hit and that I'm suggesting that many on this forum could benefit from MACH, you're right, but this really is a more general rap than that. I think that a LOT of people all over the world could benefit from such remedial education. The most fascinating thing for me in the article below is that this effort sprung from research done on how to help people with Asperger's. You all know by now my fascination with the Danish/Swedish coproduction Bron/Broen (The Bridge) and with its main character, who has Aspergers. But that series triggered in me the idea that a form of technology-caused Aspergers may, in fact, be the Disease Of Our Age. If there is *anything* that best characterizes conversations on *any* forum on the Internet, in chat rooms, or in phone text messages, it is a lack of empathy and the social skills we once considered baseline when communicating with our fellow human beings. I think it's very commendable that the folks at MIT have used the same medium that has been *causing* people to lose their empathic abilities and become distant from one another to correct the situation. YMMV. http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/08/a-machine-that-te\ aches-people-how-to-talk.html http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/08/a-machine-that-t\ eaches-people-how-to-talk.html
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[FairfieldLife] TM Trailer Trash Memories
Saw this and laughed, because it reminded me of a more relaxed, more free time in the TM movement, back when people hadn't yet been indoctrinated to believe that fun and sexuality were Off The Program. The only trailer park I've ever lived in was at the one-month course with Maharishi at Humboldt State College in (I think) 1970. And lemme tell you, there was a LOT of foolin' around goin' down. Compare and contrast to the beliefs about sexuality espoused by some of the old folks on this forum. [https://sphotos-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1235492_10\ 201460384905667_1389585108_n.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Still believe that the meaning you see is really there?
As chance would have it, I discovered this article *while* listening to an old Bob Dylan song. Still tripping on the near god-like 1960s pairing of Dylan and Joan Baez after hearing her nostalgia song about him recently, I thought I'd look up his 1965 goodbye song to her. So I'm sitting here at the computer, listening to the following lyrics, and thoroughly enjoying imagery of lines like: King Kong little elves On the rooftops they dance Valentino-type tangos While the make-up man's hands Shut the eyes of the dead Not to embarrass anyone Farewell Angelina The sky is embarrassed And I must be gone. ...and synchronistically, at that very moment, I click on the following article. It caused no cognitive dissonance in me, because I've *never* plumbed Dylan's lyrics for meaning. Since Day One, I've been convinced that he was writing *imagery*, not symbolism. To me, he always just painted sound movies that were to be enjoyed because they were beautiful, not because they meant anything. But try to imagine how many people who have argued far into the night over Dylan's lyrics and what they believe (and assert with forceful intensity) they mean are going to react to this. My bet is that they won't believe it, any more than they would believe that the meaning they see in platitudes repeated by their spiritual teachers of choice may not really be there. Of course it's there...*I* see it there. Bob Dylan Acknowledges 50-Year-Long Hoax: My Lyrics Don't Make Sense [Bob-Dylan] Rock and roll legend, Bob Dylan, acknowledged in a recent interview that he has perpetuated an elaborate hoax on the public for more than fifty years. I can't sing, half of the time I don't even say real words, I just mumble, and my lyrics make no sense. Dylan, born Robert Zimmerman, said it began innocently in a concert at the New York Coffee House, The Bitter End in 1962. The audience was so stoned that when I started to play `This land is My Land' for the eighth time, I started to mumble sounds. The audience went crazy. The critics said I was the `future of rock and roll' so who am I to disappoint them? I was just giving the people what they wanted. Dylan, often referred to as a poetic genius, claims he never knew what people were talking about. How profound is `don't want to be a bum, you better chew gum. The pump don't work `cause the vandals stole the handles'? I just made up simple rhymes. Any child could have done what I did. The Rolling Stone interview was a promotion for the star's recent autobiography Buy This Book and the Charade Will Continue. The confession has had no apparent impact on the singer's popularity, with his new book topping Amazon's best-seller chart this week. Apparently, Lincoln was wrong. You can fool all of the people, all of the time, Dylan added.
[FairfieldLife] Jew or Yew??
[FairfieldLife] For Blessed Obama: the Way of Perfect Peace!
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[FairfieldLife] La Rentree
[http://03.img.v4.skyrock.net/0691/83730691/pics/3112435127_1_3_RwXo2YNL\ .gif] I'm back in Paris, comfortably settled in a small apartment on the Ile Saint Louis, having wisely decided to avoid the travel nightmare caused by that ignoble French tradition, la rentrée. The French, after all, get a minimum of six weeks' paid vacation per year. Those with kids take advantage of the school holidays, and go away for much of July and August, either to their vacation homes (yes, they can afford them) or to rented places in the French countryside or in other countries. Then, at the beginning of September, everyone returns, to re-enter the cities and re-enter their lives. I was returning to Paris via the TGV bullet train, so my commute wouldn't have been all that bad even if I had waited until today to make it, but -- having been stuck in la rentrée traffic for hours in the past -- my family who were driving decided to leave yesterday. It worked. They managed to avoid the endless traffic snarls along the way, and last night were comfortably ensconced in a chateau (literally) halfway home. They'll similarly avoid the bulk of the traffic today, and have a pleasant drive back to Leiden. The chateau, BTW, is an example of French hospitality at its best. They had arranged to stay there in one of the guest rooms on the way down south, and asked the owner if it were available for the return trip. She said that she'd be away and the chateau would be empty, but she gave them the key so that they could stay there anyway. Try to imagine a rich person in America doing that. The easy drive will NOT be the case for those hoping to eke the last few hours of vacation time out of their vacances d'été. Many of them will take 20 or more hours to make what is usually a four-hour drive. Meanwhile I sit here in a pleasant cafe having breakfast, and the rest of my family is cruising along at normal highway speeds, having prepared a breakfast for themselves in the kitchens of a spacious chateau. The result of all of this is that again (for the rest of the day, anyway) I have the city all to myself. Well, myself and hordes of American tourists who are taking advantage of their version of la rentrée to visit Paris. Tomorrow the adults will go back to work and the kids will go back to school, but right now my cafe is sunny and the coffee is good and the bells of Notre Dame are ringing in the background, as if to shout Sanctuary! just as they did for Quasimodo. Such a deal. I hope things are going as well for all of you at the tail end of your summer vacations, wherever they may have taken you. And may you have a pleasant rentrée into your normal life, hopefully discovering that it, too is pretty much a never-ending vacation, if you just choose to see it that way.
[FairfieldLife] Sad but predictable news from my old state
When I lived in Santa Fe, one of my hangouts was a bar/restaurant next door to the state capitol building. (They had *tremendous* munchies and bar food, for free, during their happy hours. As a result, I got to see the lawmakers spend *their* happy hours there after a grueling session of lawmaking, down four or five drinks each, and then drive home. And naturally, literally every time an opportunity arose to vote for more stringent drunk-driving laws, they voted them down. A quick search of the records revealed why -- almost 85% of the state legislators had been pulled over (and then let go with a warning) for drunk driving in the past year. This article makes me wonder how many of these GOP assholes are closet homosexuals: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/31/new-mexico-gay-marriage_n_38484\ 71.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/31/new-mexico-gay-marriage_n_3848\ 471.html One subdivision of Santa Fe had America's highest concentration of gay and lesbian residents. This was largely the result of relaxed home-buying regulations in New Mexico that allowed them to buy houses together even if they weren't married. And now that they *can* be, there are people who want to stop it. Go figure. When are Americans going to move into the 21st century?
[FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3
To get the bad taste out of my eyes from watching a couple of episodes of the US version of The Bridge, I decided to watch the new season of Borgen. What a difference. For those who have never seen the series, it's a drama set in and around the buildings of the same name (meaning citadel or castle) which house the Danish government. The first two seasons dealt with the rise to power of the (fictional) first woman Prime Minister of the country, and with all of the shit she had to deal with on a daily basis, both in political life and private life. And they were brilliant, in all of the ways that Danish TV series are, and US series (on the whole) are not. It was a series filled with nuance and subtlety and real characters with real-world problems. It pulled no punches when dealing with the political pressures of Danish politics (mainly centering on issues of immigration and corruption), but it did so without histrionics, and without the posturing so present in American political dramas. But what made the series so brilliant was that it wasn't about politicians and News broadcasters, it was about human beings who happened to be politicians and News broadcasters. These people aren't different from anyone else, and Borgen brought that to life on the TV screen. They have issues, like anyone else. They have problems at home, and with their romances, like everyone else. And they make mistakes, just like everyone else. The main draw of the series, as with all of the shows created by the DR production company there, is the strength of the actors chosen to portray the roles, and the dialogue given to them to portray. Season 3 starts with the former Prime Minister having been voted out of office a few years before, and wanting to return to politics, but feeling betrayed by all of the compromises her former political party has been making. So she starts another political party, one dedicated to principle rather than expediency. It's really great so far, so I highly recommend it to others who saw the former two seasons and liked them.
[FairfieldLife] Is Christianity anti-Jewish?
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: How serious is the global situation?
Forwarded from: Einar Olsen fountains...@gmail.com Dear Yogic Fliers, Tonight approximately 80 more of us came to Group Program than would have been expected, based on attendance on Saturday nights the past weeks, and on the usual proportion of Saturday attendance to the other previous days of the week). This is very inspiring and heartening and shows both the value of Raja Hagelin's most timely message yesterday that must have inspired the overnight increase, and our groundswell community alertness and compassion. This size response from one email is unprecedented in my experience, but a) our numbers could stand to go even higher, and b) tonight's increase could stand to be sustainable (Please note Raja Hagelin's wording below if you haven't yet). Congress is now considering informally, and formally beginning the week of Sept. 9, whether to authorize a strike against Syria. Regardless of global politics, I hope you will consider taking Raja Hagelin's appeal Syria-sly. I can't resist that but I hope you can come and have fun in Group Program together. Inner experiences have been feeling very fresh and there is a lot more liveliness and flying. Perhaps you could consider even rounding a little (when was the last time?). These problems are probably coming up primarily because our Super Radiance attendance has been lower (based on a multitude of comments Maharishi made), but it also appears that the combination of our Super Radiance, along with all the other powerful things our Movement is doing, all the good things that so many others are doing, and the rise of Natural Law, have created four significant positives said to be unusual and even unprecedented: a) The U.K. Prime Minister's not deciding on his own to go in with the U.S., expected on the basis of past actions, b) his decision to give the matter to his parliament, c) their decision to not go in, and d) Obama's decision to refer to the American Congress. Although the motives behind all these can be discussed (endlessly), their bottom line appears to me (and some respected commentators) to be unexpected, importantly positive, and even new. It is certain that a many Sidhas in our Community feel it is important to help this trend continue. I respectfully ask for your consideration to forward this or your own email to as many people as you can, and to come as often as you can to the Domes or other halls (although Headley Hall has closed due to M.U.M. growth, Maharishi Vedic City's Peace Palace has expanded to make up for it). Town Hall: I have only heard really great things, only enthusiasm, from every person who has gone to our new Town Hall program in the Orpheum Theater Building (the former Co-Ed Theater), entered from the north side (the doors close a little later than the Domes). It is now a piece of cake to find an open seat in both Domes. Men's Dome: 48 seats in our large south Guest Section, 10 more seats in our now-24-seat north Guest Section on the other side of the Dome, and currently about 50 open seats (many with IA backrests available for your use) outside the Guest Section, mostly on the south side (please look for the yellow Space Available signs). IE: About 120 Open Easy Seats in Patanjali Golden Dome. Ladies Dome: A greatly enlarged and comfy, highly successful 40-seat Open Seating section. Please Come. Jai Guru Dev, Einar and Mary Cathryn -- Forwarded message -- From: Raja John Hagelin developm...@mum.edu Date: Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM Subject: How serious is the global situation? To: Einar and Mary Cathryn, fountains...@gmail.com How Serious is the Global Situation? August 30, 2013 Dear Einar and Mary Cathryn, The severe turmoil we are witnessing around the world—and the extreme partisan gridlock here at home—is totally in line with predictions from our Maharishi Jyotish Council. Mangal is debilitated through October 5th, which brings turbulence and conflict to the world. At the same time, Rahu and Shani are both transiting Tula for the next 18 months, which enhances the upheaval and danger of conflict. We can all see how this might play out. Both Syria and Egypt are flash points now. Either of them could spark a conflagration in the Middle East that draws in the United States, Russia, and other players. Our Maharishi Jyotishis are stressing that creating national coherence through our Super-Radiance community is absolutely crucial at this moment. So I want to appeal to you as a cherished member of our Sidha community to do everything you can to come to group program over the next five weeks—through October 5th. It is only five weeks, but if we don't pull out all the stops, I fear that they may turn into a very long and difficult five weeks. As amazing as it seems, we all know that we hold the only real solution to this terrible quagmire—right here in our amazing and beautiful community... the N-squared power of our collective coherence.
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Trailer Trash Memories
turq, IMHO you best leave Paris and have another go at la rentree because obviously the first one addled your brains so that it sounds like you're saying that 60 somethings should have the same attitudes towards sex as 20 somethings! Is it not possible that indoctrination has nothing to do with TMers current attitude towards fun and sex?! Perhaps everyone is simply getting wiser as we get older. And I think there's research that indicates that as people mature, they find sex with a beloved partner deeply satisfying in a way that fooling around isn't. And who are the supposed old folks on this forum who espouse beliefs about sexuality?! AND I've been under the impression that many, if not most on FFL are no longer TMers. I think you're just unstressing (-: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 2:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM Trailer Trash Memories Saw this and laughed, because it reminded me of a more relaxed, more free time in the TM movement, back when people hadn't yet been indoctrinated to believe that fun and sexuality were Off The Program. The only trailer park I've ever lived in was at the one-month course with Maharishi at Humboldt State College in (I think) 1970. And lemme tell you, there was a LOT of foolin' around goin' down. Compare and contrast to the beliefs about sexuality espoused by some of the old folks on this forum.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Still believe that the meaning you see is really there?
Blame it on Freud who has many believing that meaning is there though it may be unconscious. When I was a grad student in Film and Television at Univ of MD, I wrote a paper on Peter Weir's Witness. I had the theme and meaning all figured out with tons of evidence from the film. Got an A on the paper. Fast forward a few years and in an Entertainment Weekly interview, Weir explained what the theme was. And it was not what I had thought it was. I was quite tempted to write him a fan letter and tell him he got it all wrong! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 3:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Still believe that the meaning you see is really there? As chance would have it, I discovered this article *while* listening to an old Bob Dylan song. Still tripping on the near god-like 1960s pairing of Dylan and Joan Baez after hearing her nostalgia song about him recently, I thought I'd look up his 1965 goodbye song to her. So I'm sitting here at the computer, listening to the following lyrics, and thoroughly enjoying imagery of lines like: King Kong little elves On the rooftops they dance Valentino-type tangos While the make-up man's hands Shut the eyes of the dead Not to embarrass anyone Farewell Angelina The sky is embarrassed And I must be gone. ...and synchronistically, at that very moment, I click on the following article. It caused no cognitive dissonance in me, because I've *never* plumbed Dylan's lyrics for meaning. Since Day One, I've been convinced that he was writing *imagery*, not symbolism. To me, he always just painted sound movies that were to be enjoyed because they were beautiful, not because they meant anything. But try to imagine how many people who have argued far into the night over Dylan's lyrics and what they believe (and assert with forceful intensity) they mean are going to react to this. My bet is that they won't believe it, any more than they would believe that the meaning they see in platitudes repeated by their spiritual teachers of choice may not really be there. Of course it's there...*I* see it there. Bob Dylan Acknowledges 50-Year-Long Hoax: My Lyrics Don't Make Sense Rock and roll legend, Bob Dylan, acknowledged in a recent interview that he has perpetuated an elaborate hoax on the public for more than fifty years. I can't sing, half of the time I don't even say real words, I just mumble, and my lyrics make no sense. Dylan, born Robert Zimmerman, said it began innocently in a concert at the New York Coffee House, The Bitter End in 1962. The audience was so stoned that when I started to play `This land is My Land' for the eighth time, I started to mumble sounds. The audience went crazy. The critics said I was the `future of rock and roll' so who am I to disappoint them? I was just giving the people what they wanted. Dylan, often referred to as a poetic genius, claims he never knew what people were talking about. How profound is `don't want to be a bum, you better chew gum. The pump don't work `cause the vandals stole the handles'? I just made up simple rhymes. Any child could have done what I did. The Rolling Stone interview was a promotion for the star's recent autobiography Buy This Book and the Charade Will Continue. The confession has had no apparent impact on the singer's popularity, with his new book topping Amazon's best-seller chart this week. Apparently, Lincoln was wrong. You can fool all of the people, all of the time, Dylan added.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
Steve, thanks for recommendations. I was planning to visit rotten tomatoes but would rather have a review like yours. I ended up borrowing The Tourist from the library. Depp and Jolie, no chemistry IMHO. Maybe it came through better on the big screen! I also borrowed The Queen which I've seen before but which is I think, definitely worth seeing again. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense)
[FairfieldLife] RE: MACH, the remedial education program for tech-impaired nerds
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
Everyone who loved the Bourne movies will of course love to see Matt D runnin' and fightin' and shootin' - he always respects their fine level of feeling before his blasts them into oblivion, and I bet he admires their pearly white teeth after they are dead. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense) From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Jones' rants get funny though.: I'm in favour of funny. Re Elysium was a racist film: I haven't seen it yet, Basic plot appeals though. Re Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea.: One of my all-time favourite books. Be aware though that initially Huxley set out to write a satire of the dangers of technology but as he became engrossed in his creation he was also attracted by the appeal of the 24/7 hedonistic lifestyle he portrayed. That ambiguity is a major part of what make the book so tantalising. What a true work of prophecy that novel turned out to be. I've never been able to decide if the society portrayed in Brave New World is a paradise that I would have been truly happy in, or, on the contrary, would have been a soul-destroying nightmare. Whichever side you come down on you must admit that in the western world we are moving ever closer to Huxley's vision. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Jones rants get funny though. There are definitely some things I don't agree with him on. One of them is that Elysium was a racist film. Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea. Huxley made it clear in Brave New World Revisited. I pop in on his forum and make some corrections but I'm certainly not the only one there doing that. Now that they've switched to Disqus (which I call Disgust) I sometimes comment on their stories. You do get why I posted Brand's interview here don't you? The old format wasn't very easy to navigate on an mobile device. It's easier to write a mobile interface and extend it to a desktop usually through the use style sheets. There are some kinks in the Neo design however. On 08/31/2013 06:14 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Having quite pronounced libertarian tendencies myself, I'm sure I'd sympathise with a lot of what Alex Jones says. And I have a soft spot for far-out views - even if they are wrong they are usually entertaining and can give food for thought. The problem for me is that I like people to be calm and collected and make a reasoned case; Jones is too much of a ranter for my tastes. I see there are a lot of clips on YouTube of Alex Jones's presentations so I'll sample a few and see if that changes my mind. Like you, I like stirring it: Cartoons of Mohammed? Bring it on! Richard Dawkins rolling up his sleeves and taking on the Creationists? Love it! PS: can I add my voice to those who are complaining about the new Yahoo Groups format. It just doesn't look as inviting as the old format. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: And that host introduces him as a shock jock. Perhaps you are unclear of the meaning shock jock? Alex's show is very thought provoking and entertaining. Sure he may be anti-abortion and go on pro Jesus rants while other times he would fit in just fine discussing consciousness here on FFL. Politically he is all over the board. He supported our California proposition to label GMOs. He is anti-war unlike many of our conservatives here. He also hosts folks like Ed Asner and Richard Belzer both of whom are liberal. Personally, I'm glad he stirs things up. I first started listening to his shows via podcast after an apperance on Coast2Coast over ten years ago. That appearance was about his expose on Bohemian Grove. The US establishment needs a lot of pies thrown in their faces. On 08/31/2013 09:14 AM, s3raphita@... wrote: He's a motormouth.
[FairfieldLife] Comment
Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
We generally see movies at the theatre, so it is painful when you pick a bomb, both from a time and a money perspective. (we like to get popcorn and a drink, so it starts to add up) Another good one we saw was Fill the Void about the orthodox Jewish community in Israel. (another comedy). It was nice to see a different perspective on that way of life - one of more easiness rather than extreme rigidity which I had assumed was the case. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Steve, thanks for recommendations. I was planning to visit rotten tomatoes but would rather have a review like yours. I ended up borrowing The Tourist from the library. Depp and Jolie, no chemistry IMHO. Maybe it came through better on the big screen! I also borrowed The Queen which I've seen before but which is I think, definitely worth seeing again. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
I enjoyed the Bourne movies. There was some intelligent plot. Not so with Elysium. At least in my opinion. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Everyone who loved the Bourne movies will of course love to see Matt D runnin' and fightin' and shootin' - he always respects their fine level of feeling before his blasts them into oblivion, and I bet he admires their pearly white teeth after they are dead. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense) From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Jones' rants get funny though.: I'm in favour of funny. Re Elysium was a racist film: I haven't seen it yet, Basic plot appeals though. Re Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea.: One of my all-time favourite books. Be aware though that initially Huxley set out to write a satire of the dangers of technology but as he became engrossed in his creation he was also attracted by the appeal of the 24/7 hedonistic lifestyle he portrayed. That ambiguity is a major part of what make the book so tantalising. What a true work of prophecy that novel turned out to be. I've never been able to decide if the society portrayed in Brave New World is a paradise that I would have been truly happy in, or, on the contrary, would have been a soul-destroying nightmare. Whichever side you come down on you must admit that in the western world we are moving ever closer to Huxley's vision. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Jones rants get funny though. There are definitely some things I don't agree with him on. One of them is that Elysium was a racist film. Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea. Huxley made it clear in Brave New World Revisited. I pop in on his forum and make some corrections but I'm certainly not the only one there doing that. Now that they've switched to Disqus (which I call Disgust) I sometimes comment on their stories. You do get why I posted Brand's interview here don't you? The old format wasn't very easy to navigate on an mobile device. It's easier to write a mobile interface and extend it to a desktop usually through the use style sheets. There are some kinks in the Neo design however. On 08/31/2013 06:14 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Having quite pronounced libertarian tendencies myself, I'm sure I'd sympathise with a lot of what Alex Jones says. And I have a soft spot for far-out views - even if they are wrong they are usually entertaining and can give food for thought. The problem for me is that I like people to be calm and collected and make a reasoned case; Jones is too much of a ranter for my tastes. I see there are a lot of clips on YouTube of Alex Jones's presentations so I'll sample a few and see if that changes my mind. Like you, I like stirring it: Cartoons of Mohammed? Bring it on! Richard Dawkins rolling up his sleeves and taking on the Creationists? Love it! PS: can I add my voice to those who are complaining about the new Yahoo Groups format. It just doesn't look as inviting as the old format. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: And that host introduces him as a shock jock. Perhaps you are unclear of the meaning shock jock? Alex's show is very thought provoking and entertaining. Sure he may be anti-abortion and go on pro Jesus rants while other times he would fit in just fine discussing consciousness here on FFL. Politically he is all over the board. He supported our California proposition to label GMOs. He is anti-war unlike many of our conservatives here.
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My interest in Dylan *increased* by his confession rather being diminished by it, I downloaded the three best albums of what is generally considered his best songwriting period (Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde On Blonde) and listened to a few faves again, to immerse myself again in their *imagery*, as opposed to any meaning they might have held for me. And y'know...many of them held up over time. Especially this one, which couldn't be a more striking example of images and words used just for the hell of it, but which nonetheless was ranked by Rolling Stone as #187 in their 500 Greatest Songs Of All Time. (The Bobster also holds position #1.) The song was called surrealist when it came out, and that's as good a description as any. The listener is *bombarded* with images from all over the metaphorical, allegorical, and symbolic map, but NONE of them are metaphors, allegories, or symbols. They are what they are...images, strung together in such a way as to paint an incredible visual dreamscape. And what a cast of characters there are in this painting: Cinderella, Cain Abel, Quasimodo, the Good Samaritan, Noah, Shakespeare's Romeo and Ophelia, Einstein (disguised as Robin Hood), Casanova, Ezra Pound, T.S. Eliot, and of course Dr. Filth himself. The song still moves me to this day, my suspicions that it never meant anything confirmed. Part of what accomplishes that is Charlie McKoy's masterful guitar backup, of course, which has actually been described in terms of painting: While Dylan's panoramic lyrics and hypnotic melody sketch out the vast canvas, it is McCoy's fills that give it their shading. Dylan himself described the song as a marathon, so if you don't have the full 11 minutes to invest, don't bother listening to the clip. But if you do, the lyrics are thoughtfully provided. For a guy who wasn't trying to say anything in particular, he managed to say a lot... http://vimeo.com/11222889 http://vimeo.com/11222889 http://vimeo.com/11222889 http://vimeo.com/11222889 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: As chance would have it, I discovered this article *while* listening to an old Bob Dylan song. Still tripping on the near god-like 1960s pairing of Dylan and Joan Baez after hearing her nostalgia song about him recently, I thought I'd look up his 1965 goodbye song to her. So I'm sitting here at the computer, listening to the following lyrics, and thoroughly enjoying imagery of lines like: King Kong little elves On the rooftops they dance Valentino-type tangos While the make-up man's hands Shut the eyes of the dead Not to embarrass anyone Farewell Angelina The sky is embarrassed And I must be gone. ...and synchronistically, at that very moment, I click on the following article. It caused no cognitive dissonance in me, because I've *never* plumbed Dylan's lyrics for meaning. Since Day One, I've been convinced that he was writing *imagery*, not symbolism. To me, he always just painted sound movies that were to be enjoyed because they were beautiful, not because they meant anything. But try to imagine how many people who have argued far into the night over Dylan's lyrics and what they believe (and assert with forceful intensity) they mean are going to react to this. My bet is that they won't believe it, any more than they would believe that the meaning they see in platitudes repeated by their spiritual teachers of choice may not really be there. Of course it's there...*I* see it there. Bob Dylan Acknowledges 50-Year-Long Hoax: My Lyrics Don't Make Sense [Bob-Dylan] Rock and roll legend, Bob Dylan, acknowledged in a recent interview that he has perpetuated an elaborate hoax on the public for more than fifty years. I can't sing, half of the time I don't even say real words, I just mumble, and my lyrics make no sense. Dylan, born Robert Zimmerman, said it began innocently in a concert at the New York Coffee House, The Bitter End in 1962. The audience was so stoned that when I started to play `This land is My Land' for the eighth time, I started to mumble sounds. The audience went crazy. The critics said I was the `future of rock and roll' so who am I to disappoint them? I was just giving the people what they wanted. Dylan, often referred to as a poetic genius, claims he never knew what people were talking about. How profound is `don't want to be a bum, you better chew gum. The pump don't work `cause the vandals stole the handles'? I just made up simple rhymes. Any child could have done what I did. The Rolling Stone interview was a promotion for the star's recent autobiography Buy This Book and the Charade Will Continue. The confession has had no apparent impact on the singer's popularity, with his new book topping Amazon's best-seller chart this week. Apparently, Lincoln was wrong. You can fool all of the people, all of the time, Dylan added.
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the only good news is that at the smaller venues you can usually get a large popcorn (with real butter) and a large drink for around $11.00, with unlimited refills. So, we split one of those, and will sometimes get a refill. Of course there is a Hollywood version of the hijacking starring Tom Hanks as the captain. Not sure exactly when it is coming out. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Steve Sundur We generally see movies at the theatre, so it is painful when you pick a bomb, both from a time and a money perspective. (We like to get popcorn and a drink, so it starts to add up.) : Prices for popcorn, hot dogs and coke are extortionate here in UK cinemas. Hadn't realised it's the same your side of the Pond. And, yes, I'm renting A Hijacking soon as the basic set-up almost guarantees escalating tension - wonder if there'll be a Hollywood remake . . . --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I enjoyed the Bourne movies. There was some intelligent plot. Not so with Elysium. At least in my opinion. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Everyone who loved the Bourne movies will of course love to see Matt D runnin' and fightin' and shootin' - he always respects their fine level of feeling before his blasts them into oblivion, and I bet he admires their pearly white teeth after they are dead. From: Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense) From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Jones' rants get funny though.: I'm in favour of funny. Re Elysium was a racist film: I haven't seen it yet, Basic plot appeals though. Re Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea.: One of my all-time favourite books. Be aware though that initially Huxley set out to write a satire of the dangers of technology but as he became engrossed in his creation he was also attracted by the appeal of the 24/7 hedonistic lifestyle he portrayed. That ambiguity is a major part of what make the book so tantalising. What a true work of prophecy that novel turned out to be. I've never been able to decide if the society portrayed in Brave New World is a paradise that I would have been truly happy in, or, on the contrary, would have been a soul-destroying nightmare. Whichever side you come down on you must admit that in the western world we are moving ever closer to Huxley's vision. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Jones rants get funny though. There are definitely some things I don't agree with him on. One of them is that Elysium was a racist film. Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea. Huxley made it clear in Brave New World Revisited. I pop in on his forum and make some corrections but I'm certainly not the only one there doing that. Now that they've switched to Disqus (which I call Disgust) I sometimes comment on their stories. You do get why I posted Brand's interview here don't you? The old format wasn't very easy to navigate on an mobile device. It's easier to write a mobile interface and extend it to a desktop usually through the use style sheets. There are some kinks in the Neo design however. On 08/31/2013 06:14 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Having quite pronounced libertarian tendencies myself, I'm sure I'd sympathise with a lot of what Alex Jones says. And I have a soft spot for far-out views - even if they are wrong they are usually entertaining and can give food for thought. The problem for me is that I like people to be calm and collected and make a reasoned
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Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest.
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This tells the story, as far as I'm concerned. My dad had a peaceful co-existence with the squirrels. After he passed away and my sister lived in the house getting it ready to sell, she mounted a full blown assault, piecing together all kinds of sheet metal and bungee cords to keep them away from the bird feeder. She declared victory, (sort of like George Bush did on the aircraft carrier). I didn't have the heart to tell her, after she went back home, that her concoction had been thoroughlydefeated by the squirrels. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Squirrel Power Yup, he goes into this in the article in perhaps more detail than one wants to read. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: Very interesting and nicely written. However, I am afraid the gnawing and the scampering amid the electric grids and power lines would mean pretty much 'lights out' for the squirrels as well. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Neat op-ed piece in the NYTimes this morning about P.O.C.B.S., Power Outages Caused by Squirrels (of which there are more than you might think), by Jon Mooallem. His final reflection on the phenomenon: I’ve come to see each P.O.C.B.S. as a reminder of our relative size on the landscape, recalibrating our identity as one set of creatures in a larger ecology. We are a marvelously successful set of creatures, though. A power outage caused by a squirrel feels so surprising only because we’ve come to see our electrical grid — all these wires with which, little by little, we’ve battened down the continent — as a constant. Electricity everywhere, at the flick of a switch, seems like the natural order, while the actual natural order — the squirrel programmed by evolution to gnaw and eat acorns and bask and leap and scamper — winds up feeling like a preposterous, alien glitch in that system. It’s a pretty stunning reversal, if you can clear the right kind of space to reflect on it, and fortunately power outages caused by squirrels do that for you by shutting off your TV and Internet.
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ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest.
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it's kind of funny isn't it, that Michael is like the polar opposite of Nabkins. Neither budges much. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest.
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It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest.
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I love this, Steve and fun story too (-: From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Squirrel Power This tells the story, as far as I'm concerned. My dad had a peaceful co-existence with the squirrels. After he passed away and my sister lived in the house getting it ready to sell, she mounted a full blown assault, piecing together all kinds of sheet metal and bungee cords to keep them away from the bird feeder. She declared victory, (sort of like George Bush did on the aircraft carrier). I didn't have the heart to tell her, after she went back home, that her concoction had been thoroughlydefeated by the squirrels. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Squirrel Power Yup, he goes into this in the article in perhaps more detail than one wants to read. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: Very interesting and nicely written. However, I am afraid the gnawing and the scampering amid the electric grids and power lines would mean pretty much 'lights out' for the squirrels as well. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Neat op-ed piece in the NYTimes this morning about P.O.C.B.S., Power Outages Caused by Squirrels (of which there are more than you might think), by Jon Mooallem. His final reflection on the phenomenon: I’ve come to see each P.O.C.B.S. as a reminder of our relative size on the landscape, recalibrating our identity as one set of creatures in a larger ecology. We are a marvelously successful set of creatures, though. A power outage caused by a squirrel feels so surprising only because we’ve come to see our electrical grid — all these wires with which, little by little, we’ve battened down the continent — as a constant. Electricity everywhere, at the flick of a switch, seems like the natural order, while the actual natural order — the squirrel programmed by evolution to gnaw and eat acorns and bask and leap and scamper — winds up feeling like a preposterous, alien glitch in that system. It’s a pretty stunning reversal, if you can clear the right kind of space to reflect on it, and fortunately power outages caused by squirrels do that for you by shutting off your TV and Internet.
[FairfieldLife] A monkey wrench thrown into the grinding gears of war?
An interesting report, to say the least, stating that the chemical attacks in Syria were caused by the rebels themselves, mishandling chemical weapons that had been given to them by a Saudi militant. Counter-propaganda to all the propaganda flying around, or the truth? We'll never know. But talk amongst yourselves, because I'm sure a few of you think you know. The article about the article: http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-rebels-admit-gas-attack-re\ sult-of-mishandling-chemical-weapons http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-rebels-admit-gas-attack-r\ esult-of-mishandling-chemical-weapons The article itself: http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied\ -rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/ http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplie\ d-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/ An article about Mint Press News (a Minneapolis website) and who they are: http://www.minnpost.com/david-brauer-blog/2012/01/who-mintpress-and-why-\ are-they-doing-all-hiring http://www.minnpost.com/david-brauer-blog/2012/01/who-mintpress-and-why\ -are-they-doing-all-hiring
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Still believe that the quot;meaningquot; you see is really there?
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sounds like a very nice venue. I'd like to come up and experience it. BTW, I'm not sure if Michael wants to hear the other side of the story. He kind of shuts that out. I think there may be several like that. (-: From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Squirrel Power
I saw this shirt advertised in the flight magazine. I know it hits home for a lot of people. I am not sure exactly what force can keep a squirrel away from a sunflower seed. Or curing the common cold for that matter. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Squirrel Power I love this, Steve and fun story too (-: From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Squirrel Power This tells the story, as far as I'm concerned. My dad had a peaceful co-existence with the squirrels. After he passed away and my sister lived in the house getting it ready to sell, she mounted a full blown assault, piecing together all kinds of sheet metal and bungee cords to keep them away from the bird feeder. She declared victory, (sort of like George Bush did on the aircraft carrier). I didn't have the heart to tell her, after she went back home, that her concoction had been thoroughlydefeated by the squirrels. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Squirrel Power Yup, he goes into this in the article in perhaps more detail than one wants to read. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: Very interesting and nicely written. However, I am afraid the gnawing and the scampering amid the electric grids and power lines would mean pretty much 'lights out' for the squirrels as well. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Neat op-ed piece in the NYTimes this morning about P.O.C.B.S., Power Outages Caused by Squirrels (of which there are more than you might think), by Jon Mooallem. His final reflection on the phenomenon: I’ve come to see each P.O.C.B.S. as a reminder of our relative size on the landscape, recalibrating our identity as one set of creatures in a larger ecology. We are a marvelously successful set of creatures, though. A power outage caused by a squirrel feels so surprising only because we’ve come to see our electrical grid — all these wires with which, little by little, we’ve battened down the continent — as a constant. Electricity everywhere, at the flick of a switch, seems like the natural order, while the actual natural order — the squirrel programmed by evolution to gnaw and eat acorns and bask and leap and scamper — winds up feeling like a preposterous, alien glitch in that system. It’s a pretty stunning reversal, if you can clear the right kind of space to reflect on it, and fortunately power outages caused by squirrels do that for you by shutting off your TV and Internet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Still believe that the meaning you see is really there?
As much as Dylan saying I can't sing, half of the time I don't even say real words, I just mumble, and my lyrics make no sense. is the closest to Absolute Truth one will ever find in the plane of relative existence, the article you stumbled upon is satire. Spoilsport. :-) --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: As chance would have it, I discovered this article *while* listening to an old Bob Dylan song. Still tripping on the near god-like 1960s pairing of Dylan and Joan Baez after hearing her nostalgia song about him recently, I thought I'd look up his 1965 goodbye song to her. So I'm sitting here at the computer, listening to the following lyrics, and thoroughly enjoying imagery of lines like: King Kong little elves On the rooftops they dance Valentino-type tangos While the make-up man's hands Shut the eyes of the dead Not to embarrass anyone Farewell Angelina The sky is embarrassed And I must be gone. ...and synchronistically, at that very moment, I click on the following article. It caused no cognitive dissonance in me, because I've *never* plumbed Dylan's lyrics for meaning. Since Day One, I've been convinced that he was writing *imagery*, not symbolism. To me, he always just painted sound movies that were to be enjoyed because they were beautiful, not because they meant anything. But try to imagine how many people who have argued far into the night over Dylan's lyrics and what they believe (and assert with forceful intensity) they mean are going to react to this. My bet is that they won't believe it, any more than they would believe that the meaning they see in platitudes repeated by their spiritual teachers of choice may not really be there. Of course it's there...*I* see it there. Bob Dylan Acknowledges 50-Year-Long Hoax: My Lyrics Don't Make Sense [Bob-Dylan] Rock and roll legend, Bob Dylan, acknowledged in a recent interview that he has perpetuated an elaborate hoax on the public for more than fifty years. I can't sing, half of the time I don't even say real words, I just mumble, and my lyrics make no sense. Dylan, born Robert Zimmerman, said it began innocently in a concert at the New York Coffee House, The Bitter End in 1962. The audience was so stoned that when I started to play `This land is My Land' for the eighth time, I started to mumble sounds. The audience went crazy. The critics said I was the `future of rock and roll' so who am I to disappoint them? I was just giving the people what they wanted. Dylan, often referred to as a poetic genius, claims he never knew what people were talking about. How profound is `don't want to be a bum, you better chew gum. The pump don't work `cause the vandals stole the handles'? I just made up simple rhymes. Any child could have done what I did. The Rolling Stone interview was a promotion for the star's recent autobiography Buy This Book and the Charade Will Continue. The confession has had no apparent impact on the singer's popularity, with his new book topping Amazon's best-seller chart this week. Apparently, Lincoln was wrong. You can fool all of the people, all of the time, Dylan added.
[FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions.
[FairfieldLife] RE: A monkey wrench thrown into the grinding gears of war?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Still believe that the quot;meaningquot; you see is really there?
[FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.
salyavin, from what I gather from various posts, it sounds like it's better for mobile devices. From: fintlewoodle...@mail.com fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions. Some more questions: How do I make it say Salyavin rather than my email address? How can I make the paragraph breaks I put in stay put? Is any of this actually an advantage or did yahoo change everything just for the hell of it? --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: 1 What is the universe made of? Astronomers face an embarrassing conundrum: they don't know what 95% of the universe is made of. Atoms, which form everything we see around us, only account for a measly 5%. Over the past 80 years it has become clear that the substantial remainder is comprised of two shadowy entities – dark matter anddark energy. The former, first discovered in 1933, acts as an invisible glue, binding galaxies and galaxy clusters together. Unveiled in 1998, the latter is pushing the universe's expansion to ever greater speeds. Astronomers are closing in on the true identities of these unseen interlopers. The rest: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/01/20-big-questions-in-science Just a test to see if everything works the same as it did under the old system...
Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions.
Oh, wonderful article, thanks for posting salyavin and I was pleased that I already knew about #11 and the Reimann hypothesis even though that knowledge came from a Numb3rs episode on same! From: fintlewoodle...@mail.com fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions. 1 What is the universe made of? Astronomers face an embarrassing conundrum: they don't know what 95% of the universe is made of. Atoms, which form everything we see around us, only account for a measly 5%. Over the past 80 years it has become clear that the substantial remainder is comprised of two shadowy entities – dark matter anddark energy. The former, first discovered in 1933, acts as an invisible glue, binding galaxies and galaxy clusters together. Unveiled in 1998, the latter is pushing the universe's expansion to ever greater speeds. Astronomers are closing in on the true identities of these unseen interlopers. The rest: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/01/20-big-questions-in-science Just a test to see if everything works the same as it did under the old system...
[FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.
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sounds like a very nice venue. I'd like to come up and experience it. BTW, I'm not sure if Michael wants to hear the other side of the story. He kind of shuts that out. I think there may be several like that. (-: From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.
Salyavin, just to give you some feedback: as you can see, this post of yours says salyavin rather than fintlewoodlewix. Did you figure it out that fast?! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions. Mobiles huh? It's sure taking the fun out of it, can't tell what is worth reading or not. Poor effort whoever is responsible. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: salyavin, from what I gather from various posts, it sounds like it's better for mobile devices. From: fintlewoodlewix@... fintlewoodlewix@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions. Some more questions: How do I make it say Salyavin rather than my email address? How can I make the paragraph breaks I put in stay put? Is any of this actually an advantage or did yahoo change everything just for the hell of it? --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: 1 What is the universe made of? Astronomers face an embarrassing conundrum: they don't know what 95% of the universe is made of. Atoms, which form everything we see around us, only account for a measly 5%. Over the past 80 years it has become clear that the substantial remainder is comprised of two shadowy entities – dark matter anddark energy. The former, first discovered in 1933, acts as an invisible glue, binding galaxies and galaxy clusters together. Unveiled in 1998, the latter is pushing the universe's expansion to ever greater speeds. Astronomers are closing in on the true identities of these unseen interlopers. The rest: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/01/20-big-questions-in-science Just a test to see if everything works the same as it did under the old system...
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jew or Yew??
carde, in the Celtic tradition, just to throw another one in the pot, the yew tree is a symbol of death and resurrection. From: cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 3:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jew or Yew?? Just learned that during King James' time the letter 'j' had the phonetic value of modern English 'y' as in 'yes'. So, should Jehova rather be 'yehova'? By the same token, 'jew' should perhaps rather be 'yew'. That doesn't, of course, meant that you should be 'yew'
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Trailer Trash Memories
On 9/1/2013 2:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Saw this and laughed, because it reminded me of a more relaxed, more free time in the TM movement, back when people hadn't yet been indoctrinated to believe that fun and sexuality were Off The Program. The only trailer park I've ever lived in was at the one-month course with Maharishi at Humboldt State College in (I think) 1970. And lemme tell you, there was a LOT of foolin' around goin' down. Compare and contrast to the beliefs about sexuality espoused by some of the old folks on this forum. You've only had sex one time, in a twenty foot trailer? Go figure. You really told off all the old Minions, Pips, and MGs this time! Maybe with maturity the older folks in the group have long ago figured out that having unprotected sex with total strangers is not a good option. LoL! https://sphotos-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1235492_10201460384905667_1389585108_n.jpg
[FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Still believe that the quot;meaningquot; you see is really there?
[FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions.
Ah ha! salyavin, when you say no way of testing and therefore not science are you saying that science is limited? Should we rely on a system of gaining knowledge that is limited by its very nature?! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions. Yes, I often ponder such things. A question they missed is why is there something rather than nothing probably because that isn't about to be answered any time soon, if it even can be. Number 17 (what is at the bottom of a black hole) is an odd way of phrasing it as there is no bottom as they aren't actually holes, they probably mean what is beyond the event horizon but wanted it to appear snappy. Black holes are collapsed stars, we don't know what's inside in the same way we can't answer the question they missed, the laws of nature break down at these points and from where we are we can only guess, no way of testing and therefore not science. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Oh, wonderful article, thanks for posting salyavin and I was pleased that I already knew about #11 and the Reimann hypothesis even though that knowledge came from a Numb3rs episode on same! From: fintlewoodlewix@... fintlewoodlewix@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions. 1 What is the universe made of? Astronomers face an embarrassing conundrum: they don't know what 95% of the universe is made of. Atoms, which form everything we see around us, only account for a measly 5%. Over the past 80 years it has become clear that the substantial remainder is comprised of two shadowy entities – dark matter anddark energy. The former, first discovered in 1933, acts as an invisible glue, binding galaxies and galaxy clusters together. Unveiled in 1998, the latter is pushing the universe's expansion to ever greater speeds. Astronomers are closing in on the true identities of these unseen interlopers. The rest: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/01/20-big-questions-in-science Just a test to see if everything works the same as it did under the old system...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jew or Yew??
Your previous link was to a typical protestant interpretation. It did not have a word for word nor is it an honest presentation. Rather it is intended to fortify the usual protestant evangelical ministries. People with atavistic attachment to their christinan indoctrination would be better off reading The Hebrew Bible in English according to the Jewish Publication Society 1917 Edition. This is downloadable and is found here: http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et0.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.
It seems weird to me that each paragraph is a different font. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions. Ah, I've got my name back and paragraphs work. That's something. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, I often ponder such things. A question they missed is why is there something rather than nothing probably because that isn't about to be answered any time soon, if it even can be. Number 17 (what is at the bottom of a black hole) is an odd way of phrasing it as there is no bottom as they aren't actually holes, they probably mean what is beyond the event horizon but wanted it to appear snappy. Black holes are collapsed stars, we don't know what's inside in the same way we can't answer the question they missed, the laws of nature break down at these points and from where we are we can only guess, no way of testing and therefore not science. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Oh, wonderful article, thanks for posting salyavin and I was pleased that I already knew about #11 and the Reimann hypothesis even though that knowledge came from a Numb3rs episode on same! From: fintlewoodlewix@... fintlewoodlewix@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions. 1 What is the universe made of? Astronomers face an embarrassing conundrum: they don't know what 95% of the universe is made of. Atoms, which form everything we see around us, only account for a measly 5%. Over the past 80 years it has become clear that the substantial remainder is comprised of two shadowy entities – dark matter anddark energy. The former, first discovered in 1933, acts as an invisible glue, binding galaxies and galaxy clusters together. Unveiled in 1998, the latter is pushing the universe's expansion to ever greater speeds. Astronomers are closing in on the true identities of these unseen interlopers. The rest: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/01/20-big-questions-in-science Just a test to see if everything works the same as it did under the old system...
Re: [FairfieldLife] MACH, the remedial education program for tech-impaired nerds
Now this is really funny - a single guy dressed in a black T-shirt sitting alone at a crowded Paris sidewalk cafe, typing on a laptop computer, using free Wi-Fi to connect to a social network site, sending a text message about socially impaired nerds. LoL! Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, I guess, even if it's just posting a text message on a community bulletin board over in Iowa. On 9/1/2013 1:30 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Those who read my posts (and who have a still-functional memory...have you noticed that one of the biggest complaints about Neo is not being able to rely on Search to supplement one's own failing memory) may recall that a few weeks ago I mentioned an old (in the world of cyberspace, that is) program called ELIZA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA. It was an early attempt at pseudo-AI and natural language processing that was supposed to emulate what it was like to interact with a Rogerian psychotherapist, and it worked pretty well...many were fooled into thinking they were chatting with a real human being. Now it appears that things have come full circle. Today's nerds have become so socially impaired as a result of spending all their time on the Internet and on phone text and in virtual environments that they've lost the ability to interact competently with live human beings. So the nerds at MIT have come up with a new, updated version of ELIZA called MACH (My Automated Conversation coacH) to teach people who have lost the ability to have one-on-one conversations with other live human beings to do so. If you're thinking that this is a partly veiled hit and that I'm suggesting that many on this forum could benefit from MACH, you're right, but this really is a more general rap than that. I think that a LOT of people all over the world could benefit from such remedial education. The most fascinating thing for me in the article below is that this effort sprung from research done on how to help people with Asperger's. You all know by now my fascination with the Danish/Swedish coproduction Bron/Broen (The Bridge) and with its main character, who has Aspergers. But that series triggered in me the idea that a form of technology-caused Aspergers may, in fact, be the Disease Of Our Age. If there is *anything* that best characterizes conversations on *any* forum on the Internet, in chat rooms, or in phone text messages, it is a lack of empathy and the social skills we once considered baseline when communicating with our fellow human beings. I think it's very commendable that the folks at MIT have used the same medium that has been *causing* people to lose their empathic abilities and become distant from one another to correct the situation. YMMV. http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/08/a-machine-that-teaches-people-how-to-talk.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Still believe that the meaning you see is really there?
--Alex asks: --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: As much as Dylan saying I can't sing, half of the time I don't even say real words, I just mumble, and my lyrics make no sense. is the closest to Absolute Truth one will ever find in the plane of relative existence, the article you stumbled upon is satire. Spoilsport. :-) I'm curious, how are you doing the formatting of the quoted text? Manually adding the '' and line breaks? Or, is there some automated method you're using? You didn't get the User's Guide? :-) Just joking. I've been cheating, in that for some reason I'm probably one of the only people here *not* consigned to Neo Hell yet. It's flipped over to it once or twice, but for some reason, the last time I logged in to Yahoo *from* the Neo version, it instantly switched me back over to the old format, and I've been there ever since, even after shutting down the computer several times and even changing Net providers. Go figure. That said, only a few minutes ago the *old* inter- face stopped being able to quote text in its Reply windows, whether plain text or rich text. Now I only get a blank window. So to reply to your two posts, I copied the original text and added the chevrons myself.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3
On 09/01/2013 03:25 AM, turquoiseb wrote: To get the bad taste out of my eyes from watching a couple of episodes of the US version of The Bridge, I decided to watch the new season of Borgen. What a difference. Now, now, I watched the first episode of Broen. I don't understand why you didn't like the US remake. After all it's by the same writers and producers and done with a better budget. The storyline was pretty much the same but adapted to the US/Mexican border. I don't think Americans would have found a show about the the Denmark/Swedish border to be all that compelling. Then they were able to bring the Mexican drug lord element in and the coyote element as well. I think it is just your Amercans sucks, Europe good meme you often expound on here. Of course you know I get that. Hell, when the first day of my TTC in France I looked around and thought you idiot! You're going be cooped up in a hotel for six months when you should be traveling around seeing Europe! I did intend to get back and do exactly that but so far that was limited to a stopover in Amsterdam to and from India. Of course the Swedish actress is sexier and Unger chose to play the role about bit more wallflower which sells the Aspergers a little better. OTOH Crossing Lines, a European production which played on NBC this summer did respectively. Yup, some scenes had subtitles too. This may be the odd difference between Comcast running NBC and GE which ran it. After watching the first episode of Broen, which looked like someone captured it off a DVR on the composite output. I watched a DVD rental Evidence with Steven Moyer and Radha Mitchell. Probably no interest to you and not to much of FFL but it was found footage horror flick with the spin being that Moyer is a forensic video analyst. After that I tried to start a popular title on Netflix and stopped it as soon as it began rebuffering. So chose a Netflix recommended title Abduction of Eden which was excellent. I had intended just to watch about a half hour but finished the whole film. It's based on an true story about a girl who was abducted and forced into prostitution in the Las Vegas area. I think we'll be seeing more from the young actor Matt O'Leary who did a bang up job on his role as her handler. But I have to be a bit embarrassed as I assumed it was shot in the Southwest. It was shot in Washington state in areas I am familiar with. But eastern Washington doesn't look a whole lot different in the desert areas than the Southwest. Just no suguaros. :-D For those who have never seen the series, it's a drama set in and around the buildings of the same name (meaning citadel or castle) which house the Danish government. The first two seasons dealt with the rise to power of the (fictional) first woman Prime Minister of the country, and with all of the shit she had to deal with on a daily basis, both in political life and private life. And they were brilliant, in all of the ways that Danish TV series are, and US series (on the whole) are not. It was a series filled with nuance and subtlety and real characters with real-world problems. It pulled no punches when dealing with the political pressures of Danish politics (mainly centering on issues of immigration and corruption), but it did so without histrionics, and without the posturing so present in American political dramas. But what made the series so brilliant was that it wasn't about politicians and News broadcasters, it was about human beings who happened to be politicians and News broadcasters. These people aren't different from anyone else, and Borgen brought that to life on the TV screen. They have issues, like anyone else. They have problems at home, and with their romances, like everyone else. And they make mistakes, just like everyone else. The main draw of the series, as with all of the shows created by the DR production company there, is the strength of the actors chosen to portray the roles, and the dialogue given to them to portray. Season 3 starts with the former Prime Minister having been voted out of office a few years before, and wanting to return to politics, but feeling betrayed by all of the compromises her former political party has been making. So she starts another political party, one dedicated to principle rather than expediency. It's really great so far, so I highly recommend it to others who saw the former two seasons and liked them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
Well that review will get audiences to the theaters although time is running out for a theater view. Probably the DVD/Bluray release is only a few months away. Sony doesn't waste any time. Not everyone understands science fiction. I've written before about how few movie reviewers get horror and science fiction films. Of course Elysium is no Bourne Identity because the latter is based off books. But there are a lot of people bashing Elysium because they don't like it's message. The message is about now and the 99% vs the 1%. Elysium is a orbiting community where in the future the 1% have moved. Obviously a metaphor of a gated community. Alex Jones bashed the film as being anti-white thats because Los Angeles in the future is mostly Hispanic. But geez, California was part of Mexico before it became a state. A Latino ghetto (Damon plays a Latino) sells the poverty element better than a white ghetto would have. Neill Blomkamp's prior film was District 9 which was about apartheid. On 08/31/2013 10:27 PM, Steve Sundur wrote: Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3
bhairitu, that Now, now made me smile. Makes me realize how fun and funny language is, how 2 little words can convey a nuanced tone. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3 On 09/01/2013 03:25 AM, turquoiseb wrote: To get the bad taste out of my eyes from watching a couple of episodes of the US version of The Bridge, I decided to watch the new season of Borgen. What a difference. Now, now, I watched the first episode of Broen. I don't understand why you didn't like the US remake. After all it's by the same writers and producers and done with a better budget. The storyline was pretty much the same but adapted to the US/Mexican border. I don't think Americans would have found a show about the the Denmark/Swedish border to be all that compelling. Then they were able to bring the Mexican drug lord element in and the coyote element as well. I think it is just your Amercans sucks, Europe good meme you often expound on here. Of course you know I get that. Hell, when the first day of my TTC in France I looked around and thought you idiot! You're going be cooped up in a hotel for six months when you should be traveling around seeing Europe! I did intend to get back and do exactly that but so far that was limited to a stopover in Amsterdam to and from India. Of course the Swedish actress is sexier and Unger chose to play the role about bit more wallflower which sells the Aspergers a little better. OTOH Crossing Lines, a European production which played on NBC this summer did respectively. Yup, some scenes had subtitles too. This may be the odd difference between Comcast running NBC and GE which ran it. After watching the first episode of Broen, which looked like someone captured it off a DVR on the composite output. I watched a DVD rental Evidence with Steven Moyer and Radha Mitchell. Probably no interest to you and not to much of FFL but it was found footage horror flick with the spin being that Moyer is a forensic video analyst. After that I tried to start a popular title on Netflix and stopped it as soon as it began rebuffering. So chose a Netflix recommended title Abduction of Eden which was excellent. I had intended just to watch about a half hour but finished the whole film. It's based on an true story about a girl who was abducted and forced into prostitution in the Las Vegas area. I think we'll be seeing more from the young actor Matt O'Leary who did a bang up job on his role as her handler. But I have to be a bit embarrassed as I assumed it was shot in the Southwest. It was shot in Washington state in areas I am familiar with. But eastern Washington doesn't look a whole lot different in the desert areas than the Southwest. Just no suguaros. :-D For those who have never seen the series, it's a drama set in and around the buildings of the same name (meaning citadel or castle) which house the Danish government. The first two seasons dealt with the rise to power of the (fictional) first woman Prime Minister of the country, and with all of the shit she had to deal with on a daily basis, both in political life and private life. And they were brilliant, in all of the ways that Danish TV series are, and US series (on the whole) are not. It was a series filled with nuance and subtlety and real characters with real-world problems. It pulled no punches when dealing with the political pressures of Danish politics (mainly centering on issues of immigration and corruption), but it did so without histrionics, and without the posturing so present in American political dramas. But what made the series so brilliant was that it wasn't about politicians and News broadcasters, it was about human beings who happened to be politicians and News broadcasters. These people aren't different from anyone else, and Borgen brought that to life on the TV screen. They have issues, like anyone else. They have problems at home, and with their romances, like everyone else. And they make mistakes, just like everyone else. The main draw of the series, as with all of the shows created by the DR production company there, is the strength of the actors chosen to portray the roles, and the dialogue given to them to portray. Season 3 starts with the former Prime Minister having been voted out of office a few years before, and wanting to return to politics, but feeling betrayed by all of the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borgen, season 3
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 09/01/2013 03:25 AM, turquoiseb wrote: To get the bad taste out of my eyes from watching a couple of episodes of the US version of The Bridge, I decided to watch the new season of Borgen. What a difference. Now, now, I watched the first episode of Broen. I don't understand why you didn't like the US remake. After all it's by the same writers and producers and done with a better budget. It's interesting about the writer credits; if you see an article talking about how that worked, send me a link. I have to wonder whether one of the licensing agreements was to name the original writers as the writers of the remake, however much rewriting took place. The storyline was pretty much the same but adapted to the US/Mexican border. In other words, dumbed down for an American audience. I don't think Americans would have found a show about the the Denmark/Swedish border to be all that compelling. See above. Then they were able to bring the Mexican drug lord element in and the coyote element as well. See above. I think it is just your Amercans sucks, Europe good meme you often expound on here. It's really not. I am the first to admit that I was pleasantly surprised by the remake of The Killing. That was the exception to the rule. In the two episodes of The Bridge I watched, it...uh... wasn't. Of course you know I get that. Hell, when the first day of my TTC in France I looked around and thought you idiot! You're going be cooped up in a hotel for six months when you should be traveling around seeing Europe! I did intend to get back and do exactly that but so far that was limited to a stopover in Amsterdam to and from India. It's an education to leave the United States, to get the fuck out of its psychic mindspace. I highly recommend it. Of course the Swedish actress is sexier and Unger... Kruger ...chose to play the role about bit more wallflower which sells the Aspergers a little better. I found it to be just the opposite. People with Aspergers are *not* necessarily wallflowers. Many combine their lack of empathy with strong, even narcissistic egos. Sofia Helin did her homework when preparing for this role, and spent a lot of time with actual Asprergers sufferers. You should see what they say about her performance on support group forums for people with Aspergers. It's heart-rending the appreciation and love they have for her. For them it's like being black and growing up their entire lives and never seeing a black face on TV. And then one day there is it, the first black character you've ever seen, and it's a *great* character. OTOH Crossing Lines, a European production which played on NBC this summer did respectively. Yup, some scenes had subtitles too. This may be the odd difference between Comcast running NBC and GE which ran it. Subtitles are tough for Americans. I think I've passed along my brother's take on that before, but I will again. He thinks that Americans just can *read* well enough or fast enough to watch a movie while reading them. I think there is a lot of truth in that theory. After watching the first episode of Broen, which looked like someone captured it off a DVR on the composite output. Too bad. The cinematography *screams* for HD. Thanks for the other recommendations. I'll check them out if I have time, but as I've said I don't have as much of that as I used to. I've jetissoned at least five series that I was watching faith- fully, because I just don't have time to watch them all, and so I've had to prioritize.
Re: [FairfieldLife] A monkey wrench thrown into the grinding gears of war?
Information on the al-Qaeda backed rebels and their attacks have been known for some time except apparently to the FFL latecomers. And the information is from mainstream news sources not conspiracy theorists. The US has been getting an NLP blitz from the White House. I can't stand those as they are such hard sell. Don't they know it turns off thinking people?The WH must have had some big threats from the MIC if they didn't tow the line. And if we get into a world war over this then we'll be told how to think. That doesn't work for me. On 09/01/2013 07:51 AM, turquoiseb wrote: An interesting report, to say the least, stating that the chemical attacks in Syria were caused by the rebels themselves, mishandling chemical weapons that had been given to them by a Saudi militant. Counter-propaganda to all the propaganda flying around, or the truth? We'll never know. But talk amongst yourselves, because I'm sure a few of you think you know. The article about the article: http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-rebels-admit-gas-attack-result-of-mishandling-chemical-weapons The article itself: http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/ An article about Mint Press News (a Minneapolis website) and who they are: http://www.minnpost.com/david-brauer-blog/2012/01/who-mintpress-and-why-are-they-doing-all-hiring
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
more than one punch to the jaw without falling down and crying like a baby you have never been in a fight if you believe that From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:49 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation I love movies but pretty much any movie that has more than about two bullets flying during the hour and a half it's playing loses credibility with me. If I'm going to watch something at the theater it will usually involves great cinematography that just doesn't cut it on the home TV, no matter how large the flat screen. Action films which always involve over-stimulated men careening about just don't draw or hold my attention - no matter how cut they are. People simply don't survive hails of mortar and bullets, falls of anything over 5 ft from buildings, more than one punch to the jaw without falling down and crying like a baby. So, unless it's a cartoon or The Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter I prefer my entertainment to hold some resemblance to my world or the world I actually want to find out more about. Interestingly, my husband also hates action movies. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Everyone who loved the Bourne movies will of course love to see Matt D runnin' and fightin' and shootin' - he always respects their fine level of feeling before his blasts them into oblivion, and I bet he admires their pearly white teeth after they are dead. From: Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense) From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Jones' rants get funny though.: I'm in favour of funny. Re Elysium was a racist film: I haven't seen it yet, Basic plot appeals though. Re Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea.: One of my all-time favourite books. Be aware though that initially Huxley set out to write a satire of the dangers of technology but as he became engrossed in his creation he was also attracted by the appeal of the 24/7 hedonistic lifestyle he portrayed. That ambiguity is a major part of what make the book so tantalising. What a true work of prophecy that novel turned out to be. I've never been able to decide if the society portrayed in Brave New World is a paradise that I would have been truly happy in, or, on the contrary, would have been a soul-destroying nightmare. Whichever side you come down on you must admit that in the western world we are moving ever closer to Huxley's vision. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Jones rants get funny though. There are definitely some things I don't agree with him on. One of them is that Elysium was a racist film. Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea. Huxley made it clear in Brave New World Revisited. I pop in on his forum and make some corrections but I'm certainly not the only one there doing that. Now that they've switched to Disqus (which I call Disgust) I sometimes comment on their stories. You do get why I posted Brand's interview here don't you? The old format wasn't very easy to navigate on an mobile device. It's easier to write a mobile interface and extend it to a desktop usually through the use style sheets. There are some kinks in the Neo design however. On 08/31/2013 06:14 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Having quite pronounced libertarian tendencies myself, I'm sure I'd sympathise with a lot of what Alex Jones says. And I have a soft spot for far-out views - even if they are wrong they are usually entertaining and can give food for thought. The problem for me is that I like people to be calm and collected and make a reasoned case; Jones is too much of a ranter for my tastes. I see there are a lot of clips on YouTube of Alex Jones's
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
The best theatre close to where I live is an AMC - it still offers five dollar matinees From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Steve Sundur We generally see movies at the theatre, so it is painful when you pick a bomb, both from a time and a money perspective. (We like to get popcorn and a drink, so it starts to add up.) : Prices for popcorn, hot dogs and coke are extortionate here in UK cinemas. Hadn't realised it's the same your side of the Pond. And, yes, I'm renting A Hijacking soon as the basic set-up almost guarantees escalating tension - wonder if there'll be a Hollywood remake . . . --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I enjoyed the Bourne movies. There was some intelligent plot. Not so with Elysium. At least in my opinion. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Everyone who loved the Bourne movies will of course love to see Matt D runnin' and fightin' and shootin' - he always respects their fine level of feeling before his blasts them into oblivion, and I bet he admires their pearly white teeth after they are dead. From: Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense) From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Jones' rants get funny though.: I'm in favour of funny. Re Elysium was a racist film: I haven't seen it yet, Basic plot appeals though. Re Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea.: One of my all-time favourite books. Be aware though that initially Huxley set out to write a satire of the dangers of technology but as he became engrossed in his creation he was also attracted by the appeal of the 24/7 hedonistic lifestyle he portrayed. That ambiguity is a major part of what make the book so tantalising. What a true work of prophecy that novel turned out to be. I've never been able to decide if the society portrayed in Brave New World is a paradise that I would have been truly happy in, or, on the contrary, would have been a soul-destroying nightmare. Whichever side you come down on you must admit that in the western world we are moving ever closer to Huxley's vision. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Jones rants get funny though. There are definitely some things I don't agree with him on. One of them is that Elysium was a racist film. Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea. Huxley made it clear in Brave New World Revisited. I pop in on his forum and make some corrections but I'm certainly not the only one there doing that. Now that they've switched to Disqus (which I call Disgust) I sometimes comment on their stories. You do get why I posted Brand's interview here don't you? The old format wasn't very easy to navigate on an mobile device. It's easier to write a mobile interface and extend it to a desktop usually through the use style sheets. There are some kinks in the Neo design however. On 08/31/2013 06:14 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Having quite pronounced libertarian tendencies myself, I'm sure I'd sympathise with a lot of what Alex Jones says. And I have a soft spot for far-out views - even if they are wrong they are usually entertaining and can give food for thought. The problem for me is that I like people to be calm and collected and make a reasoned case; Jones is too much of a ranter for my tastes. I see there are a lot of clips on YouTube of Alex Jones's presentations so I'll sample a few and see if that changes my mind. Like you, I like stirring it: Cartoons of Mohammed? Bring it on! Richard Dawkins rolling
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama will bomb if Congress gives approval
Do you not agree that the US should stay out of this? Or do you just only a lot of defense industry stocks. :-D On 08/31/2013 07:10 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Violent regime change in Syria would be a huge freaking deal requiring troops on the ground, a full-scale military conflict. That's not what the administration is after. They just want Assad to stop using chemical weapons.* * * *Here's the administration's basis for claiming that it was the Syrian government that launched the chemical attacks, not the rebels:* * * *http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/08/31/world/middleeast/31syria-chemical-weapons-assessment.html?ref=middleeast * Very different from the purported evidence of Iraqi soldiers killing Kuwaiti babies in incubators, if you recall how that went. Doesn't mean it's all true, just that the baby-killing stories aren't a good comparison. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 08/31/2013 04:59 PM, authfriend@... wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Who does he want to fall to then? The US? Is Syria going to be our 51st state? Where on earth did you get that idea? I'm being facetious. Let's review the first minute or so of Obama' address to the nation to day: http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/31/world/meast/syria-civil-war/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Yes, and...? *Your Said:* The proposed punitive strike is not intended to depose Assad. . *However, *in the couple minutes of the video Obama accuses the Assad government of launching the chemical attacks (which by the way does not make much sense). So why would he leave Assad (or his government) in place? I think we have the same phony bullshit that we had to launch the Gulf War. The bullshit that others have pointed out here about Saddam's troops killing babies which we all found out later was a lie. Most likely the al-Qaeda rebels launched the chemical attacks. Which puts Obama on the wrong side though he is on the wrong side with eithre side. Let the Syrians sort it out possibly with UN oversite. On 08/31/2013 01:49 PM, authfriend@...wrote: Richard is correct for once. The U.S. does not want Assad to fall to the rebels because that would be total chaos, and it would empower al Qaeda. The proposed punitive strike is not intended to depose Assad. . --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 08/31/2013 12:04 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 8/31/2013 1:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Which I predict it won't. Will he go ahead anyway? So why is Obama on the side of the rebels? They are al-Qaeda. We truly are living in an Orwellian world. This is just a silly argument - everyone knows that the President isn't on the side of al Qaeda - you're not even making any sense. Let me help you. Obama wants to bomb Assad not the rebels. That puts him on the side of the rebels. Political pundits say it is a lose/lose situation so the US should stay out. What essentially you have is a Syrian civil war. (snip)
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment
i've lived the other side of the story as I have stated here many times, but like the TM hype talks, I have EVOLVED!!! From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment sounds like a very nice venue. I'd like to come up and experience it. BTW, I'm not sure if Michael wants to hear the other side of the story. He kind of shuts that out. I think there may be several like that. (-: From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
Now You See Me is the best film I have seen in a long time - although my adopted daughter who is One Direction's biggest fan is chomping at the bit to give that a look so I expect I will be soon watching a British Boy Band in action. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Well that review will get audiences to the theaters although time is running out for a theater view. Probably the DVD/Bluray release is only a few months away. Sony doesn't waste any time. Not everyone understands science fiction. I've written before about how few movie reviewers get horror and science fiction films. Of course Elysium is no Bourne Identity because the latter is based off books. But there are a lot of people bashing Elysium because they don't like it's message. The message is about now and the 99% vs the 1%. Elysium is a orbiting community where in the future the 1% have moved. Obviously a metaphor of a gated community. Alex Jones bashed the film as being anti-white thats because Los Angeles in the future is mostly Hispanic. But geez, California was part of Mexico before it became a state. A Latino ghetto (Damon plays a Latino) sells the poverty element better than a white ghetto would have. Neill Blomkamp's prior film was District 9 which was about apartheid. On 08/31/2013 10:27 PM, Steve Sundur wrote: Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense)
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: 20 Big Questions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
I visit the independent theatre in our neighborhood. It's old and the chairs will give you a backache, but the screen is large and the movies, which they get after the main theatres offer them are $3 all day and night every day. Popcorn is served with real butter if desired and water is still free. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation The best theatre close to where I live is an AMC - it still offers five dollar matinees From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Steve Sundur We generally see movies at the theatre, so it is painful when you pick a bomb, both from a time and a money perspective. (We like to get popcorn and a drink, so it starts to add up.) : Prices for popcorn, hot dogs and coke are extortionate here in UK cinemas. Hadn't realised it's the same your side of the Pond. And, yes, I'm renting A Hijacking soon as the basic set-up almost guarantees escalating tension - wonder if there'll be a Hollywood remake . . . --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I enjoyed the Bourne movies. There was some intelligent plot. Not so with Elysium. At least in my opinion. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Everyone who loved the Bourne movies will of course love to see Matt D runnin' and fightin' and shootin' - he always respects their fine level of feeling before his blasts them into oblivion, and I bet he admires their pearly white teeth after they are dead. From: Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense) From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Jones' rants get funny though.: I'm in favour of funny. Re Elysium was a racist film: I haven't seen it yet, Basic plot appeals though. Re Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea.: One of my all-time favourite books. Be aware though that initially Huxley set out to write a satire of the dangers of technology but as he became engrossed in his creation he was also attracted by the appeal of the 24/7 hedonistic lifestyle he portrayed. That ambiguity is a major part of what make the book so tantalising. What a true work of prophecy that novel turned out to be. I've never been able to decide if the society portrayed in Brave New World is a paradise that I would have been truly happy in, or, on the contrary, would have been a soul-destroying nightmare. Whichever side you come down on you must admit that in the western world we are moving ever closer to Huxley's vision. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Jones rants get funny though. There are definitely some things I don't agree with him on. One of them is that Elysium was a racist film. Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea. Huxley made it clear in Brave New World Revisited. I pop in on his forum and make some corrections but I'm certainly not the only one there doing that. Now that they've switched to Disqus (which I call Disgust) I sometimes comment on their stories. You do get why I posted Brand's interview here don't you? The old format wasn't very easy to navigate on an mobile device. It's easier to write a mobile interface and extend it to a desktop usually through the use style sheets. There are some kinks in the Neo design however. On 08/31/2013 06:14 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Having quite pronounced
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
Yes, my younger daughter has seen the One Direction movie twice so far and in concert where she and a friend swooned over the bus parked in back of the arena. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Now You See Me is the best film I have seen in a long time - although my adopted daughter who is One Direction's biggest fan is chomping at the bit to give that a look so I expect I will be soon watching a British Boy Band in action. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Well that review will get audiences to the theaters although time is running out for a theater view. Probably the DVD/Bluray release is only a few months away. Sony doesn't waste any time. Not everyone understands science fiction. I've written before about how few movie reviewers get horror and science fiction films. Of course Elysium is no Bourne Identity because the latter is based off books. But there are a lot of people bashing Elysium because they don't like it's message. The message is about now and the 99% vs the 1%. Elysium is a orbiting community where in the future the 1% have moved. Obviously a metaphor of a gated community. Alex Jones bashed the film as being anti-white thats because Los Angeles in the future is mostly Hispanic. But geez, California was part of Mexico before it became a state. A Latino ghetto (Damon plays a Latino) sells the poverty element better than a white ghetto would have. Neill Blomkamp's prior film was District 9 which was about apartheid. On 08/31/2013 10:27 PM, Steve Sundur wrote: Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3
I often like to think of FFL as if we are sitting around a table at a restaurant and having a conversation. If that were the case people would be so alarmed of jibes people make. On 09/01/2013 09:14 AM, Share Long wrote: bhairitu, that Now, now made me smile. Makes me realize how fun and funny language is, how 2 little words can convey a nuanced tone. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:00 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3 On 09/01/2013 03:25 AM, turquoiseb wrote: To get the bad taste out of my eyes from watching a couple of episodes of the US version of The Bridge, I decided to watch the new season of Borgen. What a difference. Now, now, I watched the first episode of Broen. I don't understand why you didn't like the US remake. After all it's by the same writers and producers and done with a better budget. The storyline was pretty much the same but adapted to the US/Mexican border. I don't think Americans would have found a show about the the Denmark/Swedish border to be all that compelling. Then they were able to bring the Mexican drug lord element in and the coyote element as well. I think it is just your Amercans sucks, Europe good meme you often expound on here. Of course you know I get that. Hell, when the first day of my TTC in France I looked around and thought you idiot! You're going be cooped up in a hotel for six months when you should be traveling around seeing Europe! I did intend to get back and do exactly that but so far that was limited to a stopover in Amsterdam to and from India. Of course the Swedish actress is sexier and Unger chose to play the role about bit more wallflower which sells the Aspergers a little better. OTOH Crossing Lines, a European production which played on NBC this summer did respectively. Yup, some scenes had subtitles too. This may be the odd difference between Comcast running NBC and GE which ran it. After watching the first episode of Broen, which looked like someone captured it off a DVR on the composite output. I watched a DVD rental Evidence with Steven Moyer and Radha Mitchell. Probably no interest to you and not to much of FFL but it was found footage horror flick with the spin being that Moyer is a forensic video analyst. After that I tried to start a popular title on Netflix and stopped it as soon as it began rebuffering. So chose a Netflix recommended title Abduction of Eden which was excellent. I had intended just to watch about a half hour but finished the whole film. It's based on an true story about a girl who was abducted and forced into prostitution in the Las Vegas area. I think we'll be seeing more from the young actor Matt O'Leary who did a bang up job on his role as her handler. But I have to be a bit embarrassed as I assumed it was shot in the Southwest. It was shot in Washington state in areas I am familiar with. But eastern Washington doesn't look a whole lot different in the desert areas than the Southwest. Just no suguaros. :-D For those who have never seen the series, it's a drama set in and around the buildings of the same name (meaning citadel or castle) which house the Danish government. The first two seasons dealt with the rise to power of the (fictional) first woman Prime Minister of the country, and with all of the shit she had to deal with on a daily basis, both in political life and private life. And they were brilliant, in all of the ways that Danish TV series are, and US series (on the whole) are not. It was a series filled with nuance and subtlety and real characters with real-world problems. It pulled no punches when dealing with the political pressures of Danish politics (mainly centering on issues of immigration and corruption), but it did so without histrionics, and without the posturing so present in American political dramas. But what made the series so brilliant was that it wasn't about politicians and News broadcasters, it was about human beings who happened to be politicians and News broadcasters. These people aren't different from anyone else, and Borgen brought that to life on the TV screen. They have issues, like anyone else. They have problems at home, and with their romances, like everyone else. And they make mistakes, just like everyone else. The main draw of the series, as with all of the shows created by the DR production company there, is the strength of the actors chosen to portray the roles, and the dialogue given to them to portray. Season 3 starts with the former Prime Minister having been voted out of office a few years before, and wanting to return to politics, but feeling betrayed by all of the compromises her former political party has been making. So she starts another political party, one dedicated to principle rather than expediency. It's really great so far,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3
TB could just let loose on a monologue with the details of what a Great Conversation consists of. Smile. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3 I often like to think of FFL as if we are sitting around a table at a restaurant and having a conversation. If that were the case people would be so alarmed of jibes people make. On 09/01/2013 09:14 AM, Share Long wrote: bhairitu, that Now, now made me smile. Makes me realize how fun and funny language is, how 2 little words can convey a nuanced tone. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3 On 09/01/2013 03:25 AM, turquoiseb wrote: To get the bad taste out of my eyes from watching a couple of episodes of the US version of The Bridge, I decided to watch the new season of Borgen. What a difference. Now, now, I watched the first episode of Broen. I don't understand why you didn't like the US remake. After all it's by the same writers and producers and done with a better budget. The storyline was pretty much the same but adapted to the US/Mexican border. I don't think Americans would have found a show about the the Denmark/Swedish border to be all that compelling. Then they were able to bring the Mexican drug lord element in and the coyote element as well. I think it is just your Amercans sucks, Europe good meme you often expound on here. Of course you know I get that. Hell, when the first day of my TTC in France I looked around and thought you idiot! You're going be cooped up in a hotel for six months when you should be traveling around seeing Europe! I did intend to get back and do exactly that but so far that was limited to a stopover in Amsterdam to and from India. Of course the Swedish actress is sexier and Unger chose to play the role about bit more wallflower which sells the Aspergers a little better. OTOH Crossing Lines, a European production which played on NBC this summer did respectively. Yup, some scenes had subtitles too. This may be the odd difference between Comcast running NBC and GE which ran it. After watching the first episode of Broen, which looked like someone captured it off a DVR on the composite output. I watched a DVD rental Evidence with Steven Moyer and Radha Mitchell. Probably no interest to you and not to much of FFL but it was found footage horror flick with the spin being that Moyer is a forensic video analyst. After that I tried to start a popular title on Netflix and stopped it as soon as it began rebuffering. So chose a Netflix recommended title Abduction of Eden which was excellent. I had intended just to watch about a half hour but finished the whole film. It's based on an true story about a girl who was abducted and forced into prostitution in the Las Vegas area. I think we'll be seeing more from the young actor Matt O'Leary who did a bang up job on his role as her handler. But I have to be a bit embarrassed as I assumed it was shot in the Southwest. It was shot in Washington state in areas I am familiar with. But eastern Washington doesn't look a whole lot different in the desert areas than the Southwest. Just no suguaros. :-D For those who have never seen the series, it's a drama set in and around the buildings of the same name (meaning citadel or castle)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
On 08/31/2013 08:32 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re Jones' rants get funny though.: I'm in favour of funny. Re Elysium was a racist film: I haven't seen it yet, Basic plot appeals though. Re Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea.: One of my all-time favourite books. Be aware though that initially Huxley set out to write a satire of the dangers of technology but as he became engrossed in his creation he was also attracted by the appeal of the 24/7 hedonistic lifestyle he portrayed. That ambiguity is a major part of what make the book so tantalising. What a true work of prophecy that novel turned out to be. I've never been able to decide if the society portrayed in Brave New World is a paradise that I would have been truly happy in, or, on the contrary, would have been a soul-destroying nightmare. Whichever side you come down on you must admit that in the western world we are moving ever closer to Huxley's vision. Yesterday I went to Walgreens to rent a DVD from the kiosk outside. I hadn't been in the store for awhile so went inside to see what they are selling these days. I have a bit of background in corporate retail and it's always interesting to see what the latest scam is. I had also noticed for a holiday Saturday that there were a lot of customers. Most of them lined up at the pharmacy counter to refill prescriptions. Definitely were have moved into a drug dependent society. When I went to high school Brave New World and 1984 were both assigned and no one ever thought that either book was selling those dystopian societies as a solution for the future.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: 20 Big Questions.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama will bomb if Congress gives approval
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borgen, season 3
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: TB could just let loose on a monologue with the details of what a Great Conversation consists of. Smile. Though I suspect your Smile is faux, faux, faux I happen to have an answer, ready to go :-) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100151/reference http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100151/reference
RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Borgen, season 3
My smiles are never faux TB - they do augment different tones I may be taking, but they are never faux. Excellent response though and I'll check it out. Smile. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Borgen, season 3 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: TB could just let loose on a monologue with the details of what a Great Conversation consists of. Smile. Though I suspect your Smile is faux, faux, faux I happen to have an answer, ready to go :-) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100151/reference
Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3
Well, bhairitu, that image makes me smile too, of FFL sitting at a restaurant with throwable food at the ready. Yes, my bad! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3 I often like to think of FFL as if we are sitting around a table at a restaurant and having a conversation. If that were the case people would be so alarmed of jibes people make. On 09/01/2013 09:14 AM, Share Long wrote: bhairitu, that Now, now made me smile. Makes me realize how fun and funny language is, how 2 little words can convey a nuanced tone. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Borgen, season 3 On 09/01/2013 03:25 AM, turquoiseb wrote: To get the bad taste out of my eyes from watching a couple of episodes of the US version of The Bridge, I decided to watch the new season of Borgen. What a difference. Now, now, I watched the first episode of Broen. I don't understand why you didn't like the US remake. After all it's by the same writers and producers and done with a better budget. The storyline was pretty much the same but adapted to the US/Mexican border. I don't think Americans would have found a show about the the Denmark/Swedish border to be all that compelling. Then they were able to bring the Mexican drug lord element in and the coyote element as well. I think it is just your Amercans sucks, Europe good meme you often expound on here. Of course you know I get that. Hell, when the first day of my TTC in France I looked around and thought you idiot! You're going be cooped up in a hotel for six months when you should be traveling around seeing Europe! I did intend to get back and do exactly that but so far that was limited to a stopover in Amsterdam to and from India. Of course the Swedish actress is sexier and Unger chose to play the role about bit more wallflower which sells the Aspergers a little better. OTOH Crossing Lines, a European production which played on NBC this summer did respectively. Yup, some scenes had subtitles too. This may be the odd difference between Comcast running NBC and GE which ran it. After watching the first episode of Broen, which looked like someone captured it off a DVR on the composite output. I watched a DVD rental Evidence with Steven Moyer and Radha Mitchell. Probably no interest to you and not to much of FFL but it was found footage horror flick with the spin being that Moyer is a forensic video analyst. After that I tried to start a popular title on Netflix and stopped it as soon as it began rebuffering. So chose a Netflix recommended title Abduction of Eden which was excellent. I had intended just to watch about a half hour but finished the whole film. It's based on an true story about a girl who was abducted and forced into prostitution in the Las Vegas area. I think we'll be seeing more from the young actor Matt O'Leary who did a bang up job on his role as her handler. But I have to be a bit embarrassed as I assumed it was shot in the Southwest. It was shot in Washington state in areas I am familiar with. But eastern Washington doesn't look a whole lot different in the desert areas than the Southwest. Just no suguaros. :-D For those who have never seen the series, it's a drama set in and around the buildings of the same name (meaning citadel or
Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions - Why Something?
This is similar in conclusion to the Vedantic statement: brahma satyam jagat mithya jivo brahmaiva naparah brahman is real, the world an appearance the individual is brahman indeed, not other Most translators mis-translate this to mean the world is illusion or mere cognition which was not Shankara's claim but rather the claim of an opponent which he refuted. Philosophical Sundays: Why is There Something Rather than Nothing Why is there something rather than nothing? Many people have pondered this question throughout the ages. Philosophers have even labelled it the Primordial Existential Question because of its extreme importance for understanding, uh, well, I'm not sure. But apparently it's important. Of course, the answer is quite straightforward: why not? Why should we expect to see nothing rather than something? Is nothing inherently more likely? Is there a way to assign a priori probabilities to possible universes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possible_world ? If so, how? The fact that there's something should not be a mystery. Would it be any less mysterious if there was nothing? But today I don't want to focus on this question, since its solution seems a bit too straightforward. What actually puzzles me is another, related issue: why is there precisely this instead of anything else? Now that question may be moot, but it is arguably less moot than the previous one. For starters, if you assume a fairly reasonable probability measure for possible universes, such as an equiprobable distribution, the chances of our universe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe being precisely this one are pretty slim. Of course, this probably means not every conceivable universe is real or that probabilities are highly eschewed towards ours, but the question is: why? One possibility is that our universe is the only physically and mathematically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics consistent one. That would mean we got pretty lucky, since physical consistency also required little squishy beings like us to be born. I find that hard to believe, since there are plenty of mathematically consistent systems that don't seem to require anything remotely similar to the universe we live in. Another possibility is that our universe is one in a myriad of mathematically consistent ones. There are several possible cases: we could, for example, have every single conceivable universe, as Max Tegmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Tegmark tirelessly suggests. Or we could live in the superstring landscape, which is somewhat more restrictive but still pretty lax when it comes to requirements. Or we could just live in the quantum multiverse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation , which does not allow for much room for change. In all of this cases, the explanation for why we are in precisely this universe would have to use the Anthropic Principle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle . This principle states that what we can observe is necessarily restricted to the places in which our existence is possible. Therefore, we would not be seeing the rest of the universes because we just don't exist in them. Max Tegmark's option is beautiful because it actually answers the question: why is there this rather than anything else? Well, actually, there is this and everything else. Problem solved. Anything that can happen, does. The superstring landscape and quantum multiverse options are in this case not so satisfactory, since they still beg the question: why only these types of universes and not others? There is another reason why I like Tegmark's approach. If we had a universe where every single mathematically consistent theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistency had a physical expression, the universe would actually be made of anything you could imagine, since pretty much any state of any system can be expressed as a set of consistent axioms and inference rules http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_inference (you just had to make the set large enough). For those who do not know, axioms are the basic building blocks of a mathematical theory, whereas the inference rules are what allow us to infer new statements from those blocks. If we had a universe where everything happens, there would be some very beautiful consequences. For example, the total information of the system would be zero, since allowing every single rule is equivalent to having no rules at all. Fragments of the system, though, would have considerably high information content http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_content . A universe such as us would be an information-rich fragment in an information-free mess. And this ties in with the original, apparently moot question of why is there something rather than nothing? Well, if there is only information and the total information is zero, then there is actually nothing. A huge nothing made of every possible something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: 20 Big Questions.
Apparently you can't post to this group without showing your email address. On 9/1/2013 12:06 PM, j_alexander_stanley wrote: Curious to see what shows up if I hide my email address... --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: When posting from the website, it appears like the only way to have a moniker show up instead of an email address is to use the hide email address option. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ah, I've got my name back and paragraphs work. That's something. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, I often ponder such things. A question they missed is why is there something rather than nothing probably because that isn't about to be answered any time soon, if it even can be. Number 17 (what is at the bottom of a black hole) is an odd way of phrasing it as there is no bottom as they aren't actually holes, they probably mean what is beyond the event horizon but wanted it to appear snappy. Black holes are collapsed stars, we don't know what's inside in the same way we can't answer the question they missed, the laws of nature break down at these points and from where we are we can only guess, no way of testing and therefore not science. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Oh, wonderful article, thanks for posting salyavin and I was pleased that I already knew about #11 and the Reimann hypothesis even though that knowledge came from a Numb3rs episode on same! *From:* fintlewoodlewix@... fintlewoodlewix@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:07 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions. 1 What is the universe made of? Astronomers face an embarrassing conundrum: they don't know what 95% of the universe is made of. Atoms, which form everything we see around us, only account for a measly 5%. Over the past 80 years it has become clear that the substantial remainder is comprised of two shadowy entities – dark matter http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/apr/03/dark-matter-space-station-physicsanddark energy http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/01/theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/2012/nov/13/dark-energy-map-dark-matter. The former, first discovered in 1933, acts as an invisible glue, binding galaxies and galaxy clusters together. Unveiled in 1998, the latter is pushing the universe's expansion to ever greater speeds. Astronomers are closing in on the true identities of these unseen interlopers. The rest: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/01/20-big-questions-in-science Just a test to see if everything works the same as it did under the old system...
Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions.
salyavin, I'd say it makes perfect sense that people *get religious* about the pre universe. That perfect sense, I'd speculate, is derived from the nature of the brain itself. Surely there's a part of the physical brain that is associated with thoughts about, belief in, disbelief in God, etc. I like both the very practical questions like what can be done about population control. And I also like the really abstract questions like your why is there something rather than nothing. Such questions are a bit like a zen koan funnily enough, sort of bridging the most physical and least physical worlds. I'm using that strange phrase to avoid saying spiritual (-: I want to think a bit more about that predictable testifiable and especially falsifiable. The latter is the most fascinating to me. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions. Yep, science is indeed limited, but only to what it can't test for. Speculation is fine though, you can speculate what the pre-universe was like but until we can go there to test we won't know with any certainty at all. Some people even get religious about it which makes no sense at all... UFOs. ghosts, etc remain unscientific because they can't be held down and subjected to experiment and their appearance can't be predicted so all we are left with is anecdotal evidence which won't do at all as far as science goes. So it has to be predictable,testable and falsifiable to be considered science. The last bit is important because if you can't prove a theory is wrong you can't tell if it's likely to be right. Considering what there is now, the pre-universe must have had certain qualities or it couldn't have ended up like this, which limits it a bit. So perhaps a better way of putting the question would be why is the universe like this rather than like something else? The easy answer to that is, if it was like something else then maybe it wouldn't have lasted half a second or it would have rendered it incapable of making heavier elements like carbon and thus not creating us to ponder it. Another question then How many universes capable of creating and sustaining life might have come into existence from the initial big-bang state? --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ah ha! salyavin, when you say no way of testing and therefore not science are you saying that science is limited? Should we rely on a system of gaining knowledge that is limited by its very nature?! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions. Yes, I often ponder such things. A question they missed is why is there something rather than nothing probably because that isn't about to be answered any time soon, if it even can be. Number 17 (what is at the bottom of a black hole) is an odd way of phrasing it as there is no bottom as they aren't actually holes, they probably mean what is beyond the event horizon but wanted it to appear snappy. Black holes are collapsed stars, we don't know what's inside in the same way we can't answer the question they missed, the laws of nature break down at these points and from where we are we can only guess, no way of testing and therefore not science. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Oh, wonderful article, thanks for posting salyavin and I was pleased that I already knew about #11 and the Reimann hypothesis even though that knowledge came from a Numb3rs episode on same! From: fintlewoodlewix@... fintlewoodlewix@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions. 1 What is the universe made of? Astronomers face an embarrassing conundrum: they don't know what 95% of the universe is made of. Atoms, which form everything we see around us, only account for a measly 5%. Over the past 80 years it has become clear that the substantial remainder is comprised of two shadowy entities – dark matter anddark energy. The former, first discovered in 1933, acts as an invisible glue, binding galaxies and galaxy clusters together. Unveiled in 1998, the latter is pushing the universe's expansion to ever greater speeds. Astronomers are closing in on the true identities of these unseen interlopers. The rest: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/01/20-big-questions-in-science Just a test to see if everything works the same as it did under the old system...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama will bomb if Congress gives approval
President Obama painted himself into a corner with red paint. Obama put a temporary brake on the idea that a President can do anything he wants to do. However, we can now watch where Assad moves all his artillery and guns - then, later we will know what Assad will do when he feels threatened. He can run, but he can't hide from a cruise missile, anytime, any place Obama decides to order a fire. In fact, because he is being criticized, Obama may be more determined to strike than ever. The President has the right to call a strike without the approval of Congress. Bill Clinton didn't bother with getting a rubber stamp from Congress - he did what had to be done to save the people in Bosnia. George W. Bush could have invaded Syria if he had wanted to, and Assad would be in Guantanamo Cuba by now. The problems in the Middle East are only going to be solved by the free world nations going in there with boots on the ground and take over to enforce human rights. Most of the Middle East countries are just lines in the sand anyway, created by the League of Nations after WW II. Obama's problem is he all talk, no action, in regard to Syria - he talks too much and his administration leaks too much. Throughout his presidency, whether the goal was closing the military prison in Guantanamo, Cuba, or backing the NATO air campaign in Libya, Mr. Obama has proved better at articulating legal principles than at managing the politics that could help him defend those principles. - Mark Lander Ouch! Posted by Tom Maguire: http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2013/08/circling-the-drain-on-syria.html On 9/1/2013 11:29 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Do you not agree that the US should stay out of this? Or do you just only a lot of defense industry stocks. :-D On 08/31/2013 07:10 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Violent regime change in Syria would be a huge freaking deal requiring troops on the ground, a full-scale military conflict. That's not what the administration is after. They just want Assad to stop using chemical weapons.* * * *Here's the administration's basis for claiming that it was the Syrian government that launched the chemical attacks, not the rebels:* * * *http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/08/31/world/middleeast/31syria-chemical-weapons-assessment.html?ref=middleeast * Very different from the purported evidence of Iraqi soldiers killing Kuwaiti babies in incubators, if you recall how that went. Doesn't mean it's all true, just that the baby-killing stories aren't a good comparison. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 08/31/2013 04:59 PM, authfriend@... wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Who does he want to fall to then? The US? Is Syria going to be our 51st state? Where on earth did you get that idea? I'm being facetious. Let's review the first minute or so of Obama' address to the nation to day: http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/31/world/meast/syria-civil-war/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Yes, and...? *Your Said:* The proposed punitive strike is not intended to depose Assad. . *However, *in the couple minutes of the video Obama accuses the Assad government of launching the chemical attacks (which by the way does not make much sense). So why would he leave Assad (or his government) in place? I think we have the same phony bullshit that we had to launch the Gulf War. The bullshit that others have pointed out here about Saddam's troops killing babies which we all found out later was a lie. Most likely the al-Qaeda rebels launched the chemical attacks. Which puts Obama on the wrong side though he is on the wrong side with eithre side. Let the Syrians sort it out possibly with UN oversite. On 08/31/2013 01:49 PM, authfriend@...wrote: Richard is correct for once. The U.S. does not want Assad to fall to the rebels because that would be total chaos, and it would empower al Qaeda. The proposed punitive strike is not intended to depose Assad. . --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 08/31/2013 12:04 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 8/31/2013 1:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Which I predict it won't. Will he go ahead anyway? So why is Obama on the side of the rebels? They are al-Qaeda. We truly are living in an Orwellian world. This is just a silly argument - everyone knows that the President isn't on the side of al Qaeda - you're not even making any sense. Let me help you. Obama wants to bomb Assad not the rebels. That puts him on the side of the rebels. Political pundits say it is a lose/lose situation so the US should stay out. What essentially you have is a Syrian civil war. (snip)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions - Why Something?
FFL folks, if you're in the mood for a mahavahkya, read all the way to the end. From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 20 Big Questions - Why Something? This is similar in conclusion to the Vedantic statement: brahma satyam jagat mithya jivo brahmaiva naparah brahman is real, the world an appearance the individual is brahman indeed, not other Most translators mis-translate this to mean the world is illusion or mere cognition which was not Shankara's claim but rather the claim of an opponent which he refuted. Philosophical Sundays: Why is There Something Rather than Nothing Why is there something rather than nothing? Many people have pondered this question throughout the ages. Philosophers have even labelled it the Primordial Existential Question because of its extreme importance for understanding, uh, well, I'm not sure. But apparently it's important. Of course, the answer is quite straightforward: why not? Why should we expect to see nothing rather than something? Is nothing inherently more likely? Is there a way to assign a priori probabilities to possible universes? If so, how? The fact that there's something should not be a mystery. Would it be any less mysterious if there was nothing? But today I don't want to focus on this question, since its solution seems a bit too straightforward. What actually puzzles me is another, related issue: why is there precisely this instead of anything else? Now that question may be moot, but it is arguably less moot than the previous one. For starters, if you assume a fairly reasonable probability measure for possible universes, such as an equiprobable distribution, the chances of our universe being precisely this one are pretty slim. Of course, this probably means not every conceivable universe is real or that probabilities are highly eschewed towards ours, but the question is: why? One possibility is that our universe is the only physically and mathematically consistent one. That would mean we got pretty lucky, since physical consistency also required little squishy beings like us to be born. I find that hard to believe, since there are plenty of mathematically consistent systems that don't seem to require anything remotely similar to the universe we live in. Another possibility is that our universe is one in a myriad of mathematically consistent ones. There are several possible cases: we could, for example, have every single conceivable universe, as Max Tegmark tirelessly suggests. Or we could live in the superstring landscape, which is somewhat more restrictive but still pretty lax when it comes to requirements. Or we could just live in the quantum multiverse, which does not allow for much room for change. In all of this cases, the explanation for why we are in precisely this universe would have to use the Anthropic Principle. This principle states that what we can observe is necessarily restricted to the places in which our existence is possible. Therefore, we would not be seeing the rest of the universes because we just don't exist in them. Max Tegmark's option is beautiful because it actually answers the question: why is there this rather than anything else? Well, actually, there is this and everything else. Problem solved. Anything that can happen, does. The superstring landscape and quantum multiverse options are in this case not so satisfactory, since they still beg the question: why only these types of universes and not others? There is another reason why I like Tegmark's approach. If we had a universe where every single mathematically consistent theory had a physical expression, the universe would actually be made of anything you could imagine, since pretty much any state of any system can be expressed as a set of consistent axioms and inference rules (you just had to make the set large enough). For those who do not know, axioms are the basic building blocks of a mathematical theory, whereas the inference rules are what allow us to infer new statements from those blocks. If we had a universe where everything happens, there would be some very beautiful consequences. For example, the total information of the system would be zero, since allowing every single rule is equivalent to having no rules at all. Fragments of the system, though, would have considerably high information content. A universe such as us would be an information-rich fragment in an information-free mess. And this ties in with the original, apparently moot question of why is there something rather than nothing? Well, if there is only information and the total information is zero, then there is actually nothing. A huge nothing made of every possible something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
I thought the concept had potential, but shortly after it began, that took a back seat to all car chases, and and low orbit chases, and non stop explosions. I can't even recall much about it at this point. I've kind of erased it from my memory. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Well that review will get audiences to the theaters although time is running out for a theater view. Probably the DVD/Bluray release is only a few months away. Sony doesn't waste any time. Not everyone understands science fiction. I've written before about how few movie reviewers get horror and science fiction films. Of course Elysium is no Bourne Identity because the latter is based off books. But there are a lot of people bashing Elysium because they don't like it's message. The message is about now and the 99% vs the 1%. Elysium is a orbiting community where in the future the 1% have moved. Obviously a metaphor of a gated community. Alex Jones bashed the film as being anti-white thats because Los Angeles in the future is mostly Hispanic. But geez, California was part of Mexico before it became a state. A Latino ghetto (Damon plays a Latino) sells the poverty element better than a white ghetto would have. Neill Blomkamp's prior film was District 9 which was about apartheid. On 08/31/2013 10:27 PM, Steve Sundur wrote: Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
we paid $18.00 (total) for our two tickets last night. But it was a more artsy venue. BTW, the theater was packed for the 7:30 show. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation The best theatre close to where I live is an AMC - it still offers five dollar matinees From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Steve Sundur We generally see movies at the theatre, so it is painful when you pick a bomb, both from a time and a money perspective. (We like to get popcorn and a drink, so it starts to add up.) : Prices for popcorn, hot dogs and coke are extortionate here in UK cinemas. Hadn't realised it's the same your side of the Pond. And, yes, I'm renting A Hijacking soon as the basic set-up almost guarantees escalating tension - wonder if there'll be a Hollywood remake . . . --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I enjoyed the Bourne movies. There was some intelligent plot. Not so with Elysium. At least in my opinion. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Everyone who loved the Bourne movies will of course love to see Matt D runnin' and fightin' and shootin' - he always respects their fine level of feeling before his blasts them into oblivion, and I bet he admires their pearly white teeth after they are dead. From: Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense) From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Re Jones' rants get funny though.: I'm in favour of funny. Re Elysium was a racist film: I haven't seen it yet, Basic plot appeals though. Re Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea.: One of my all-time favourite books. Be aware though that initially Huxley set out to write a satire of the dangers of technology but as he became engrossed in his creation he was also attracted by the appeal of the 24/7 hedonistic lifestyle he portrayed. That ambiguity is a major part of what make the book so tantalising. What a true work of prophecy that novel turned out to be. I've never been able to decide if the society portrayed in Brave New World is a paradise that I would have been truly happy in, or, on the contrary, would have been a soul-destroying nightmare. Whichever side you come down on you must admit that in the western world we are moving ever closer to Huxley's vision. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Jones rants get funny though. There are definitely some things I don't agree with him on. One of them is that Elysium was a racist film. Another is that Brave New World was an instruction manual. He actually plays a clip of Huxley and fails to realize Huxley was warning of the dangers of a technocracy not endorsing the idea. Huxley made it clear in Brave New World Revisited. I pop in on his forum and make some corrections but I'm certainly not the only one there doing that. Now that they've switched to Disqus (which I call Disgust) I sometimes comment on their stories. You do get why I posted Brand's interview here don't you? The old format wasn't very easy to navigate on an mobile device. It's easier to write a mobile interface and extend it to a desktop usually through the use style sheets. There are some kinks in the Neo design however. On 08/31/2013 06:14 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Having quite pronounced libertarian tendencies myself, I'm sure I'd sympathise with a lot of what Alex Jones says. And I have a soft spot for far-out views - even if they are wrong they are
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment
good to hear I guess that means, I, who've also lived the other side, (although not in some time), has not evolved? good to know From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment i've lived the other side of the story as I have stated here many times, but like the TM hype talks, I have EVOLVED!!! From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment sounds like a very nice venue. I'd like to come up and experience it. BTW, I'm not sure if Michael wants to hear the other side of the story. He kind of shuts that out. I think there may be several like that. (-: From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
That's what sells movies these days or at least that's what the studios think - that's what I hated about the butchery Peter Jackson did on the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings - not that the books lack for fight scenes but Jackson (who is definitely not a REAL Jackson) had to put a lot of unnecessary violence in them just to put butts in seats. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation I thought the concept had potential, but shortly after it began, that took a back seat to all car chases, and and low orbit chases, and non stop explosions. I can't even recall much about it at this point. I've kind of erased it from my memory. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Well that review will get audiences to the theaters although time is running out for a theater view. Probably the DVD/Bluray release is only a few months away. Sony doesn't waste any time. Not everyone understands science fiction. I've written before about how few movie reviewers get horror and science fiction films. Of course Elysium is no Bourne Identity because the latter is based off books. But there are a lot of people bashing Elysium because they don't like it's message. The message is about now and the 99% vs the 1%. Elysium is a orbiting community where in the future the 1% have moved. Obviously a metaphor of a gated community. Alex Jones bashed the film as being anti-white thats because Los Angeles in the future is mostly Hispanic. But geez, California was part of Mexico before it became a state. A Latino ghetto (Damon plays a Latino) sells the poverty element better than a white ghetto would have. Neill Blomkamp's prior film was District 9 which was about apartheid. On 08/31/2013 10:27 PM, Steve Sundur wrote: Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense)
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: 20 Big Questions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
in NYC last weekend as we were walking from the Frick Museum to the Empire State Building, we passed by the Four Seasons Hotel where there was a half block of girls on either side of the entrance. I said, girls, what's the big event?. One Direction was the reply. They were waiting to see them come out and go to their interview, or something. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Now You See Me is the best film I have seen in a long time - although my adopted daughter who is One Direction's biggest fan is chomping at the bit to give that a look so I expect I will be soon watching a British Boy Band in action. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Well that review will get audiences to the theaters although time is running out for a theater view. Probably the DVD/Bluray release is only a few months away. Sony doesn't waste any time. Not everyone understands science fiction. I've written before about how few movie reviewers get horror and science fiction films. Of course Elysium is no Bourne Identity because the latter is based off books. But there are a lot of people bashing Elysium because they don't like it's message. The message is about now and the 99% vs the 1%. Elysium is a orbiting community where in the future the 1% have moved. Obviously a metaphor of a gated community. Alex Jones bashed the film as being anti-white thats because Los Angeles in the future is mostly Hispanic. But geez, California was part of Mexico before it became a state. A Latino ghetto (Damon plays a Latino) sells the poverty element better than a white ghetto would have. Neill Blomkamp's prior film was District 9 which was about apartheid. On 08/31/2013 10:27 PM, Steve Sundur wrote: Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jew or Yew??
And Yeshua (Hebrew name of Jesus) should be Jai Shiva. From: cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jew or Yew?? Just learned that during King James' time the letter 'j' had the phonetic value of modern English 'y' as in 'yes'. So, should Jehova rather be 'yehova'? By the same token, 'jew' should perhaps rather be 'yew'. That doesn't, of course, meant that you should be 'yew'
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation
I know this was just discussed recently. I generally liked LOTR. But the part that bugged me the most, was playing the city of dead card, where are the deads formed an unbeatable army. GMAFB. I'm still waiting for my Shmiegal bobble head. It's been on my Christmas list for the last five years. Oh well. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation That's what sells movies these days or at least that's what the studios think - that's what I hated about the butchery Peter Jackson did on the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings - not that the books lack for fight scenes but Jackson (who is definitely not a REAL Jackson) had to put a lot of unnecessary violence in them just to put butts in seats. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation I thought the concept had potential, but shortly after it began, that took a back seat to all car chases, and and low orbit chases, and non stop explosions. I can't even recall much about it at this point. I've kind of erased it from my memory. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Brand Blasts Syrian War Disinformation Well that review will get audiences to the theaters although time is running out for a theater view. Probably the DVD/Bluray release is only a few months away. Sony doesn't waste any time. Not everyone understands science fiction. I've written before about how few movie reviewers get horror and science fiction films. Of course Elysium is no Bourne Identity because the latter is based off books. But there are a lot of people bashing Elysium because they don't like it's message. The message is about now and the 99% vs the 1%. Elysium is a orbiting community where in the future the 1% have moved. Obviously a metaphor of a gated community. Alex Jones bashed the film as being anti-white thats because Los Angeles in the future is mostly Hispanic. But geez, California was part of Mexico before it became a state. A Latino ghetto (Damon plays a Latino) sells the poverty element better than a white ghetto would have. Neill Blomkamp's prior film was District 9 which was about apartheid. On 08/31/2013 10:27 PM, Steve Sundur wrote: Do not, I repeat, do not, see this silly film (Elysium) which has a few minutes of an interesting plot at the start but then descends into about an hour and a half of the usual shoot 'em crap. It was a chore to stay through the whole thing. If I knew my wife was as bored as I was, I certainly would have suggested we leave. Tonight we saw In a World, which I would recommend. (comedy) Also, recently, A Hijacking, another big recommend. (suspense)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama will bomb if Congress gives approval
Good. But your arguments tended to show support of the administration. They're heavily pushing intervention which makes me think they've been threatened if they don't. We all know by now that there is a lot of skulduggery that goes on behind the scenes. On 09/01/2013 10:14 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *I do think we should stay out of this. Could you show me what I said that led you to suspect otherwise?* --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Do you not agree that the US should stay out of this? Or do you just only a lot of defense industry stocks. :-D *Could you try this in English, please?* On 08/31/2013 07:10 PM, authfriend@... wrote: *Violent regime change in Syria would be a huge freaking deal requiring troops on the ground, a full-scale military conflict. That's not what the administration is after. They just want Assad to stop using chemical weapons.* * * *Here's the administration's basis for claiming that it was the Syrian government that launched the chemical attacks, not the rebels:* * * *http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/08/31/world/middleeast/31syria-chemical-weapons-assessment.html?ref=middleeast * Very different from the purported evidence of Iraqi soldiers killing Kuwaiti babies in incubators, if you recall how that went. Doesn't mean it's all true, just that the baby-killing stories aren't a good comparison. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 08/31/2013 04:59 PM, authfriend@... wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Who does he want to fall to then? The US? Is Syria going to be our 51st state? Where on earth did you get that idea? I'm being facetious. Let's review the first minute or so of Obama' address to the nation to day: http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/31/world/meast/syria-civil-war/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Yes, and...? *Your Said:* The proposed punitive strike is not intended to depose Assad. . *However, *in the couple minutes of the video Obama accuses the Assad government of launching the chemical attacks (which by the way does not make much sense). So why would he leave Assad (or his government) in place? I think we have the same phony bullshit that we had to launch the Gulf War. The bullshit that others have pointed out here about Saddam's troops killing babies which we all found out later was a lie. Most likely the al-Qaeda rebels launched the chemical attacks. Which puts Obama on the wrong side though he is on the wrong side with eithre side. Let the Syrians sort it out possibly with UN oversite. On 08/31/2013 01:49 PM, authfriend@...wrote: Richard is correct for once. The U.S. does not want Assad to fall to the rebels because that would be total chaos, and it would empower al Qaeda. The proposed punitive strike is not intended to depose Assad. . --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 08/31/2013 12:04 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 8/31/2013 1:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Which I predict it won't. Will he go ahead anyway? So why is Obama on the side of the rebels? They are al-Qaeda. We truly are living in an Orwellian world. This is just a silly argument - everyone knows that the President isn't on the side of al Qaeda - you're not even making any sense. Let me help you. Obama wants to bomb Assad not the rebels. That puts him on the side of the rebels. Political pundits say it is a lose/lose situation so the US should stay out. What essentially you have is a Syrian civil war. (snip)
