[FairfieldLife] The Bottom Line
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[FairfieldLife] Re: So You Can All Relax Now
---awoelflebater , awoelflebater@... wrote: Typical, I add a link and it clicks but takes you nowhere. You'll have to just do it the hard way: http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders+exist/90111\ 20/story.html +exist/9011120/story.html http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders+exist/90111\ 20/story.html BTW, I was given a preview of some new 'look' on neo today on my computer at work. It is quite different from the one we have all been using the last few weeks. It seems much better...but we'll see. http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders+exist/90111\ 20/story.html +disorders+exist/9011120/story.html http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders+exist/90111\ 20/story.html It's now viewed in scientific circles, that Psychiatry is going through the same stage of development as physics before Newton or biology before Darwin. IMO, a lot of breakthroughs are needed in the future, get a clear understanding of the mechanics of mind-brain interface and its functioning. Dr. V.S. Ramachandran says the next step is to map the mental illness onto the neural pathways of the brain itself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tell-Tale_Brain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tell-Tale_Brain *** Above all, psychiatrists need to be more honest with their patients, he believes. They shouldn't tell people their illness is caused by a chemical imbalance when there is no evidence this exists. Psychiatry has little knowledge of the underlying processes governing mental health and it should not pretend otherwise. http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders%20+exist/901\ 1120/story.html http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders%20+exist/901\ 1120/story.html +exist/9011120/story.html http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders+exist/901112\ 0/story.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM?
Thanks Ann for your answer. My fist thought was, that I was a bit too snarky, sarcastic, so whatever I wrote - don't take it personal - but I think you already got that. Of course I have nothing against horses, they are beautiful animals, and even though I don't really ride horses, I still meet them when I run out, as they are here in the fields, and many people in the area where I live ride horses, there are horse races in the next village, where people come from the whole county. So, again sorry for the sometimes overly snarky tone. Regarding you, I take it that meditation is not really for you, I don't want you to be anybody else than you are. I don't want to persuade you to either do 2 x 20, or take up the dome program, or anything else. But there are people who are inclined to having long meditations, who are lovers of meditation, you may find them on Purusha, or also in many other spiritual groups, or they are simply on their own. To think that they do this, because they have nothing else to do is rubbish. To think that they just sit around and let time pass is equally rubbish. It makes me feel you don't know meditation very well, it's okay you have an active life and enjoy it. I also think that those who pursue a Purusha type lifestyle should do so, because it is an urge from within, because there is a real calling, not because they want to 'achieve' something, or they have to force themselves. Also, I am very active myself, I have to do many things, so I cannot afford to meditate 7 1/2 hours, and since much of the effect of meditation has spread into activity, I also don't need so much meditation anymore. But I still like it, and meditate every day - and I never regret doing a single meditation. Meditation has always been my best friend. (and that's not because I have no other friends ;-)) One thing more I like to mention: With meditation there comes a deep sense of detachment. That's obviously diametrically opposed to the sense of passion and interest, you may get with other things. That means you can't love the world anymore, but your love and sense of passion will be different. And to Judy: she doesn't know me at all, the life that I am leading, she just tries to take an easy shot at me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I ran a tea house says: If you say, they are people like the rest of us, I say yes they are. If you say, you feel sorry for them, I say I feel sorry for you feeling sorry for them. You say, they just sit for 7 1/2 hours in meditation, since they have nothing else to do, no passions etc? Do you really believe that? That means you cannot imagine, that a person actually enjoys meditation, and is absorbed for a long time. I mean, how long could you sit in meditation, honestly, before getting bored? 1 hour, 2 hours, 1/2 hour? What I mean to say is that a person doesn't meditate for so long, just because he has nothing else to do. Quite obviously persons who meditate so long enjoy it tremendously, and quite obviously they feel passionate about it, just as you maybe feel passionate about horses. I say: That is what I said already. If someone who likes to meditate for a third of a day felt like doing something different then they would be doing exactly that - something different. We all do what gives us the most pleasure as well as what we simply have to do to meet our obligations or put food on the table. There is no argument here. Those who chose to abandon all other activity or interaction with others in order to sit solitary with their eyes closed for 7.5 hours a day are doing it because they want to. I ran a tea house says: What is there about horses anyway, do we still need them? Haven't we got cars, which bring us much safer and without getting wet to our destiny? Why waste all your time with horses, and what would happen, if everybody would just be preoccupied with horses all the time? Couldn't you just leave them alone? Well of course one could and many do. But my point was activity vs meditation, many hours spent with eyes closed vs hours spent with family or pursuing activities that include making art, viewing art, running, reading, making love, eating. Time can be wasted with horses if one is not interacting in a certain way with them or forcing things or not respecting them as living, sentient beings. But that is not how I spend time with these creatures. Ah no, but you would have to spend some time with me to understand this. There is no greater gift than to be able to truly understand and appreciate these large animal's tolerance and acceptance of our capricious whims to jump them, make them do all sorts of athletic maneuvers or to watch them simply put up with our moment to moment demands. Just knowing that makes us seem so much smaller and them so much larger. That is easily as transcendental as drifting off into some meditative state. I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drummerworld: top 15 drummers of all time
Ringo? I think not! On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 2:46 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: in alphabetical order: Louie Bellson John Bonham Dennis Chambers Billy Cobham Vinnie Colaiuta Steve Gadd Roy Haynes Elvin Jones Gene Krupa Joe Morello Buddy Rich Max Roach Ringo Starr Dave Weckl Tony Williams
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC
Seraphita, the Moderator kept track of such details and the posting limit was duly enforced. What's curiouser, etc. IMHO is Neo vs Basic. 1) There are emails on my Basic list that are NOT on my Neo list! 2) Neo is way better for replying except it doesn't allow me to snip! 3) It seems that if 2 posts from the same thread are in my inbox, if I reply to one, when I go to reply to the other, it defaults my 2nd reply to the prior one. Oy, even attempting to explain it makes my head hurt! Anyway, I enjoy the content of your posts and I appreciate the tone til now. So I'm wondering why only sharelong got your knickers in such a twist since both Richard's and Ann's names also appear twice on the post count list. Did I talk too much about dharma the last few days? (-: On Thursday, October 10, 2013 10:17 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!: So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long . . 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So You Can All Relax Now
Jason, my guess is that some psychiatrists speak about brain chemistry imbalances so that a prescription drug can be presented as the best solution. I actually think brain chemistry is an underpinning of mental illness. But I also think there are natural solutions that can be effective and without so many harmful side effects. On Friday, October 11, 2013 4:12 AM, Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote: ---awoelflebater , awoelflebater@... wrote: Typical, I add a link and it clicks but takes you nowhere. You'll have to just do it the hard way: http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders +exist/9011120/story.html BTW, I was given a preview of some new 'look' on neo today on my computer at work. It is quite different from the one we have all been using the last few weeks. It seems much better...but we'll see. http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental +disorders+exist/9011120/story.html It's now viewed in scientific circles, that Psychiatry is going through the same stage of development as physics before Newton or biology before Darwin. IMO, a lot of breakthroughs are needed in the future, get a clear understanding of the mechanics of mind-brain interface and its functioning. Dr. V.S. Ramachandran says the next step is to map the mental illness onto the neural pathways of the brain itself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tell-Tale_Brain *** Above all, psychiatrists need to be more honest with their patients, he believes. They shouldn't tell people their illness is caused by a chemical imbalance when there is no evidence this exists. Psychiatry has little knowledge of the underlying processes governing mental health and it should not pretend otherwise. http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders +exist/9011120/story.html
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC
No, when people showed up in the post count with multiple handles, it was their responsibility to add up the numbers and keep track of their total count. As a courtesy, I would often point out totals that were approaching 50. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!: So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long . . 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: New Pope uses old meditation practice..
Excellent! Thanks Bucky! This means one doesn't need any kind of a mantra to not only get to the place of no thought, but to the place of great light too! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:24 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Filled with light. Sounds like a Quaker to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In an interview with the Rome daily La Repubblica, editor Eugenio Scalfari quoted the pope as saying he was seized by a great anxiety moments after his election and asked the cardinals in the Sistine Chapel to give him a few minutes time to think things over. To make it go away and relax, I closed my eyes and made every thought disappear, even the thought of refusing to accept the position, as the liturgical procedure allows, he was quoted as saying. At a certain point I was filled with a great light. It lasted a moment, but to me it seemed very long. Then the light faded, I got up suddenly and walked into the room where the cardinals were waiting. The pope was quoted as saying he signed the acceptance form and went out on the balcony to be introduced to the world as Pope Francis.
[FairfieldLife] Rick
Have a grand Birthday Rick, hope you have a great big cake! (But not a vegan one)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM?
Iranitea wrote: And to Judy: she doesn't know me at all, the life that I am leading, she just tries to take an easy shot at me. And Ann is smarter than you are too. If you were as intelligent as Ann, it would have occurred to you that you, Ann, and I know each other only from what we write. That's the sense in which... ...Ann is far more interesting, vital, and in touch with herself and with life than you are, iranitea. Go figure. And it isn't exactly as if you're in a position to criticize anybody else for taking cheap shots. But what I wrote isn't a cheap shot in any case;, it's an observation comparing how you come across in your posts versus how Ann comes across in her posts. Sorry you don't like it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: New Pope uses old meditation practice..
It's called *Waiting on the Lord* From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: New Pope uses old meditation practice.. Filled with light. Sounds like a Quaker to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In an interview with the Rome daily La Repubblica, editor Eugenio Scalfari quoted the pope as saying he was seized by a great anxiety moments after his election and asked the cardinals in the Sistine Chapel to give him a few minutes time to think things over. To make it go away and relax, I closed my eyes and made every thought disappear, even the thought of refusing to accept the position, as the liturgical procedure allows, he was quoted as saying. At a certain point I was filled with a great light. It lasted a moment, but to me it seemed very long. Then the light faded, I got up suddenly and walked into the room where the cardinals were waiting. The pope was quoted as saying he signed the acceptance form and went out on the balcony to be introduced to the world as Pope Francis.
[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
Both of these Sanskrit works mean dark, black, blue. That means there is no intrinsic association of these sounds with Krishna or Kali. They are titles of these devas because that is how they are narrated in the Puranas. The associated meaning of these Sanskrit words relate to Krishna/Kali because both of these deities are described in the Puranas as being dark ... in the case of Krishna dark blue and for Kali black. Same for Laksmi's name/sound, signifying what is opulent and glorious. It is an honorific title for someone. An example would be the name Sri Aurobindo which literally means honorable ray of bindus. Thus the term - aura (a form of ara as in sahasra-ara chakra (wheel of a thousand rays) + bindu ( a point-essence). Interesting meaning but not too esotetic in actuality. It ain't Praire Dog mysticism (i.e. mystification). ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/10/2013 9:41 AM, Michael Laurenson wrote: Hi Richard, I taught TM in the early 70s and been reading FFL posts for awhile. I've read that shyam, shyama are related to Krishna. Are these still considered Saraswati mantras? Warm regards, Michael Shyama is Kali, while Shyam is Krishna. ShyAmA-kAli has a somewhat tender aspect and is worshipped in the Hindu household http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ramakrishna/kali.html http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ramakrishna/kali.html ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: When MMY first started out in Kerala, according to 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas', he only used Ram (for the guys) and Shyam (for the gals), not unlike the ISKCON pundit boys who sing the maha mantra. It was only later in 1957 that MMY started using the five bijas and created the sixteen variants bijas to include the Saraswati bija which he got from SBS. According to MMY, the Shankaracharya tradition is the custodian of the bija mantras. This makes sense because the sixteen bijas are enumerated in the Sound Arya Lahari, compiled by the Adi Shankara, the main scripture of the Sri Vidya sect. Go figure. A yoga teacher can use any seed sounds they want toin spiritual practice, even make up new ones, as long as they are given out in a ritual initiation. Otherwise, they are just simple phonemes or quasi-phonemes with no apparent meaning. However, most Indians, and thus most TMers, only use bijas in a short sentence, such as with the word 'namah' at the end. You get one single bija mantra in TM and then you get the more advanced technique with the added words. So, you get the seed sound and then the fertilizer; you water the root and enjoy the fruit. All you have to do is start the mantra and then just baby sit your bija and watch it grow. It's that simple! On 10/10/2013 9:41 AM, Michael Laurenson wrote: Hi Richard, I taught TM in the early 70s and been reading FFL posts for awhile. I've read that shyam, shyama are related to Krishna. Are these still considered Saraswati mantras? Warm regards, Michael
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Bottom Line
I saw this on Facebook also where I'm pretty sure you grabbed it from and it's a good one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/1395310_693734637317680_1375673023_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/1395310_693734637317680_1375673023_n.jpg
[FairfieldLife] More fun for Dick and Jane
Panchadasi III 32. It is for this that the Shruti in the passage “That Atman is ‘not this, not this’” negates all objects (having names and forms), but keeps the ‘that’ (i.e. Atman) intact. 33. The entire world (severally and collectively) that can be referred to as ‘this’ can be negated, but the thing which is not ‘this’ can never be negated and this indestructible witness is the Self. 34. Thus has been established (here) the eternal existence of the Self which, according to the Shruti, is Brahman; and Its nature of pure consciousness has already been proved by statements like ‘It is awareness itself’.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy
Ahem Michael, slavery was a *states right* issue. It was written into the constitution that there would be certain states that would allow slavery, the *slave states*. Georgia was the one slave state that didn't want the issue in the constitution but Massachusetts would not ratify it without it being included. So, Georgia gave in. Boston Massachusetts was the home port for the slave industry. Most American slave ships sailed from Boston. Slavery could never had been stricken had the slave states not seceded because it would have taken a constitutional amendment to remove it and there weren't enough votes to ratify such an amendment. Only after the War of Northern Aggression and the South was *subjugated* could such an amendment be ratified by state legislatures, comprised of many former slaves, promised *40 acres and a mule* for their votes by, wait a minute Republicans, carpet baggers and scalawags. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy Here is a damn good answer to that question:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24396390 On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:51 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: That would be a pretty hard economic bonus to give up. Can you imagine the profit margins from slavery? Capitalism constantly drives the wedge between morality and economics, between community and making money. The social question is: How much can a person detest themselves, or distract themselves, and still exploit others, purely to make a fortune? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I recall that someone posted here a time or two the idea that the Confederate States seceded over the issue of states rights - as a citizen of the original seceding state, South Carolina, I have disagreed with that and for anyone who cares to read it, here is one of the historical documents that show the Confederate States were actually invoking their constitutional rights as slave holding states, rights identified by Congress and set forth in the US Constitution. It is clear from reading the entire document that the issue, the only issue was the right to practice slavery. Pure and simple.The document is called: Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!
There's an old guy I know who lives up in Austin - he has a Virgin Mobile 'pay as you go' cell phone. It's a Samsung flip phone - simple operation and it was free. Now that's better! When he needs to talk he can buy some minutes at the store - he can buy a $10 or $20 top-up card. The old guy is only spending a few dollars every three months on his phone! Now this is really funny - the guy doesn't have anyone to talk to much, but he can pay for his phone as he goes. LoL! The big problem is that the rent's too damn high! The old guy is on Medicare, Part A and Part B, and he's got UnitedHealth Care as a supplement. 'Thousands of doctors fired by United HealthCare' News8: http://www.wtnh.com/news/health/thousands-of-doctors-fired-by-united-healthcare On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: The rent is just too damn high! The rent bill is up; the electric bill is up; the water bill is up; the cable TV bill is up. These days it costs forty bucks just to take a date out for a drink and dinner at Sam's Burger Joint! Go figure. Now, the medical insurance bill is going up? Not to mention fixing the price - so that younger people pay more to keep the premiums down for the older folks. If we had a single payer system for medical care, the federal government would pay all medical expenses for everyone. So, how much would the rent go up with a government paid health care system? Go figure. If I am elected, I promise a job for everyone so they can make a decent living wage and pay their own medical insurance bills. That's my ticket - to create jobs to make money and lower medical care expenses. The trouble is that loss aversion also militates against buying insurance. Especially if you don't make a lot of money--and many young people don't--writing that premium check is painful if not prohibitive. 'The Young and the Clueless' Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303796404579097192784900688.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion On 10/10/2013 7:41 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: It looks like New York and New Jersey have some of the highest taxes in the U.S. And, the rent is too damn high! ...six of the top 10 states with the best business climate are western states, bolstered at least in part by new revenues from energy production that allows them to reduce other types of taxes. 'Western U.S. best for business, Tax Foundation says' http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/10/09/western-u-s-best-for-business-tax-foundation-says/ On 10/4/2013 9:27 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: So, when I returned the two cable boxes to Time-Warner and to terminate the HD and DVR service, I asked them how much would it cost just to have basic cable. The guy said they would have to send out a technician to put a 'trap' on the line to filter out the other channels, so I told them to close the account. It's Friday and the cable is still active, but I have powered antennas from the Shack anyway. Go figure. The rent is too damn high! This week I took my daughter's PT Cruiser in to the dealership because she said the front was 'wobbling' at 35-40 mph. The service manager called back and said one of the front tires had a 'ball' on it. He recommended getting four new Goodyear Eagles, balanced and a front end alignment - $950. What!? Now, why would anyone want to pay close to $1000 to put Goodyear Eagles back on the same car that already had a Goodyear tire with a ball on it at 30,000 miles? So, I had the tires rotated, front to back, for $15 on the south side, sweet!. Maybe I'll buy two new Falken tires at Discount Tires. Go figure. The rent is too damn high!
[FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM?
I ran a tea house wrote: Thanks Ann for your answer. My fist thought was, that I was a bit too snarky, sarcastic, so whatever I wrote - don't take it personal - but I think you already got that. Of course I have nothing against horses, they are beautiful animals, and even though I don't really ride horses, I still meet them when I run out, as they are here in the fields, and many people in the area where I live ride horses, there are horse races in the next village, where people come from the whole county. So, again sorry for the sometimes overly snarky tone. No problem, I like dialoguing here on this forum. What we have been talking about interests me. Regarding you, I take it that meditation is not really for you, I don't want you to be anybody else than you are. I don't want to persuade you to either do 2 x 20, or take up the dome program, or anything else. You are correct, up to this point in my life I simply find activity far more desirable in my life then sitting with eyes closed. I began meditating at the age of 14 and did so without fail until I was 30 or so. I rounded, I did the siddhis. The best meditations I ever had were when I was being checked. The combination of the teacher being present with quiet instructions to open and close the eyes was very soothing and the resulting meditations deep and nurturing. However, virtually every meditation in the afternoons resulted in sleep. But there are people who are inclined to having long meditations, who are lovers of meditation, you may find them on Purusha, or also in many other spiritual groups, or they are simply on their own. To think that they do this, because they have nothing else to do is rubbish. To think that they just sit around and let time pass is equally rubbish. I actually never really meant that completely seriously. But how this conversation started was when Share claimed those who meditated for 7.5 hours per day were spiritual warriors. She never replied concerning why she feels this but I certainly don't agree. People meditate for themselves, for their own ends (no problem) and one is hardly a warrior doing that nor is it particularly gruelling in any way to sit on your ass for hours on end unless you are me who would find it tortuous. It makes me feel you don't know meditation very well, it's okay you have an active life and enjoy it. Meditation is something I did for 16 years every day, twice a day. I know it well enough. I still occasionally practice TM. I also think that those who pursue a Purusha type lifestyle should do so, because it is an urge from within, because there is a real calling, not because they want to 'achieve' something, or they have to force themselves. No argument here. But my point was that these people have nothing else pressing in their lives so they can have that 'luxury' of basically living their lives with eyes closed repeating some mantra (or not). Going on purusha, spending all that time would not be possible if they were Olympic hopefuls, great scientists or had three children to feed. Also, I am very active myself, I have to do many things, so I cannot afford to meditate 7 1/2 hours, Exactly part of my point. and since much of the effect of meditation has spread into activity, I also don't need so much meditation anymore. But I still like it, and meditate every day - and I never regret doing a single meditation. Meditation has always been my best friend. (and that's not because I have no other friends ;-)) Good one. One thing more I like to mention: With meditation there comes a deep sense of detachment. That's obviously diametrically opposed to the sense of passion and interest, you may get with other things. That means you can't love the world anymore, but your love and sense of passion will be different. And to Judy: she doesn't know me at all, the life that I am leading, she just tries to take an easy shot at me. I don't think Judy takes easy shots. She considers carefully. She is not a careless person. Whether she is correct in her assessment about you or not only you can really know, if you are open enough to really evaluate what she has to say about you. If she is wrong she is wrong but I don't think she says what she says here without good reason - from her perspective. I have included a link that is hopefully clickable (based on your instructions the other day). It is kind of a cool video about equestrians. It doesn't say it all nor does it say it perfectly but it does touch on a bit of what I was talking about in my other post to you. It is only a couple of minutes long.Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YTWKf4TQIamp;list=TLEr2mTnD_hFczwf7HOR6ut8p0FNSGtcaM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YTWKf4TQIamp;list=TLEr2mTnD_hFczwf7HOR6ut8p0FNSGtcaM ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Iranitea wrote: And to Judy: she doesn't know me at
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Of course M's decision to *withhold* TM from more possible initiates could have been a tactic to motivate those already Initiated to push harder for enlightenment since there would obviously be no more to come and the burden to achieve the Age of Enlightenment would then depend on the few he has directly had interaction with. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
[FairfieldLife] Pay As You Go Health Insurance
Health care insurance is supposed to pay for your health care minus a reasonable deductible amount. Most people are on a group health care insurance policy where they work - they pay part and the employer pays part. Others are paying for health care insurance out of their own pocket. Sometimes it costs more than the rent to just pay the premiums every month. And, the rent is already too damn high! Millions of people don't even have any health care insurance! So, the first thing I would do if elected would be to create jobs that pay good money. Everyone would have a job that paid a decent standard of living wage. Then, I would bring down the high cost of medical care. People could then pay for their own health care as they go. It's not complicated. The idea is to go to a total cash system - you pay for your own health care with money you earned. There is no insurance. It's that simple.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy
On the slavery issue I've always wondered how one could say: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and then not automatically ban slavery. I'm guessing that the shyster lawyers of the day argued something along the lines that the Declaration set out the rights of *citizens* of the republic. As slaves were property and not citizens in the full sense the words didn't apply in their case; just as a foreigner couldn't be President. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Ahem Michael, slavery was a *states right* issue. It was written into the constitution that there would be certain states that would allow slavery, the *slave states*. Georgia was the one slave state that didn't want the issue in the constitution but Massachusetts would not ratify it without it being included. So, Georgia gave in. Boston Massachusetts was the home port for the slave industry. Most American slave ships sailed from Boston. Slavery could never had been stricken had the slave states not seceded because it would have taken a constitutional amendment to remove it and there weren't enough votes to ratify such an amendment. Only after the War of Northern Aggression and the South was *subjugated* could such an amendment be ratified by state legislatures, comprised of many former slaves, promised *40 acres and a mule* for their votes by, wait a minute Republicans, carpet baggers and scalawags. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy Here is a damn good answer to that question:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24396390 On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:51 PM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: That would be a pretty hard economic bonus to give up. Can you imagine the profit margins from slavery? Capitalism constantly drives the wedge between morality and economics, between community and making money. The social question is: How much can a person detest themselves, or distract themselves, and still exploit others, purely to make a fortune? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I recall that someone posted here a time or two the idea that the Confederate States seceded over the issue of states rights - as a citizen of the original seceding state, South Carolina, I have disagreed with that and for anyone who cares to read it, here is one of the historical documents that show the Confederate States were actually invoking their constitutional rights as slave holding states, rights identified by Congress and set forth in the US Constitution. It is clear from reading the entire document that the issue, the only issue was the right to practice slavery. Pure and simple. The document is called: Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp
RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
[FairfieldLife] RE: Pay As You Go Health Insurance
Re So, the first thing I would do if elected would be to create jobs that pay good money.: And just how do you intend pulling off that magic trick? It can't be done by fiat. Isn't it an inevitable consequence of globalisation that wage rates in the developed and developing worlds will approach each other. Their rates grow; our's decline. Re Then, I would bring down the high cost of medical care. Medical care costs are rising as we're all living longer and ever more expensive and sophisticated procedures are becoming available. Re There is no insurance. It's that simple.: What have you got against insurance? I have car insurance and my property is insured. The insurance means I can be relaxed about, say, having this laptop stolen. My car insurance is compulsory, so if I'm at fault in an accident some innocent doesn't have to pick up the bill. Couldn't health-care insurance also be made compulsory? And being compulsory for everyone, it would bring down the price for everyone. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Health care insurance is supposed to pay for your health care minus a reasonable deductible amount. Most people are on a group health care insurance policy where they work - they pay part and the employer pays part. Others are paying for health care insurance out of their own pocket. Sometimes it costs more than the rent to just pay the premiums every month. And, the rent is already too damn high! Millions of people don't even have any health care insurance! So, the first thing I would do if elected would be to create jobs that pay good money. Everyone would have a job that paid a decent standard of living wage. Then, I would bring down the high cost of medical care. People could then pay for their own health care as they go. It's not complicated. The idea is to go to a total cash system - you pay for your own health care with money you earned. There is no insurance. It's that simple.
[FairfieldLife] Swami Khecaranatha: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 10/11/2013
blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/star.gif published 10/11/2013 196. Swami Khecaranatha http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=ebb33b72abe=16e07f16fe Oct 10, 2013 08:52 am | Rick Swami Khecaranatha has been teaching Kundalini MahaYoga since 1972. With a mastery etched from more than four decades of inner practice and selfless service, he is an authentic adept of Tantric Shaivism and an initiated carrier in the Shaktipat Lineage of Bhagavan Nityananda … Continue reading http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=4bdaa2840ee=16e07f16fe → The post 196. Swami Khecaranatha http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=fe92e37924e=16e07f16fe appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=69cc982658e=16e07f16fe . comments http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=12fe803be7e=16e07f16fe | read more http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=209d503597e=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=39ea4ffe6de=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c5c0346cbce=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2bba4ec9a6e=16e07f16fe http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/frond.gif Elsewhere * http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=e7a386cb9ee=16e07f16fe Visit My Blog * http://us2.forward-to-friend1.com/forward?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=66a2453255e=16e07f16fe Share This with a friend * http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=dae7202905e=16e07f16fe Follow me on Twitter * http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=9302c6c3f1e=16e07f16fe RSS feed http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/shim.gif Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com. Buddha at the Gas Pump 1108 South B Street Fairfield, Iowa 52556 Add us to your address book http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/vcard?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b0e5d0d53a Copyright (C) 2013 Buddha at the Gas Pump All rights reserved. http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=monkey_rewardsaid=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5afl=1 http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=66a2453255e=16e07f16fe
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC
Seraphita asks a trollish question and then trollishly doesn't reply to a reasonable follow up. Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!: So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long . . 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
and that was the kind of mentality they got from Marshy - ignore it if you like On Fri, 10/11/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 3:14 PM Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM?
This is totally the wrong video. That one sucks. This is the one I wanted to link to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVI4fyXo9cYamp;list=TLEr2mTnD_hFczwf7HOR6ut8p0FNSGtcaM On Friday, October 11, 2013 7:12:41 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: I ran a tea house wrote: Thanks Ann for your answer. My fist thought was, that I was a bit too snarky, sarcastic, so whatever I wrote - don't take it personal - but I think you already got that. Of course I have nothing against horses, they are beautiful animals, and even though I don't really ride horses, I still meet them when I run out, as they are here in the fields, and many people in the area where I live ride horses, there are horse races in the next village, where people come from the whole county. So, again sorry for the sometimes overly snarky tone. No problem, I like dialoguing here on this forum. What we have been talking about interests me. Regarding you, I take it that meditation is not really for you, I don't want you to be anybody else than you are. I don't want to persuade you to either do 2 x 20, or take up the dome program, or anything else. You are correct, up to this point in my life I simply find activity far more desirable in my life then sitting with eyes closed. I began meditating at the age of 14 and did so without fail until I was 30 or so. I rounded, I did the siddhis. The best meditations I ever had were when I was being checked. The combination of the teacher being present with quiet instructions to open and close the eyes was very soothing and the resulting meditations deep and nurturing. However, virtually every meditation in the afternoons resulted in sleep. But there are people who are inclined to having long meditations, who are lovers of meditation, you may find them on Purusha, or also in many other spiritual groups, or they are simply on their own. To think that they do this, because they have nothing else to do is rubbish. To think that they just sit around and let time pass is equally rubbish. I actually never really meant that completely seriously. But how this conversation started was when Share claimed those who meditated for 7.5 hours per day were spiritual warriors. She never replied concerning why she feels this but I certainly don't agree. People meditate for themselves, for their own ends (no problem) and one is hardly a warrior doing that nor is it particularly gruelling in any way to sit on your ass for hours on end unless you are me who would find it tortuous. It makes me feel you don't know meditation very well, it's okay you have an active life and enjoy it. Meditation is something I did for 16 years every day, twice a day. I know it well enough. I still occasionally practice TM. I also think that those who pursue a Purusha type lifestyle should do so, because it is an urge from within, because there is a real calling, not because they want to 'achieve' something, or they have to force themselves. No argument here. But my point was that these people have nothing else pressing in their lives so they can have that 'luxury' of basically living their lives with eyes closed repeating some mantra (or not). Going on purusha, spending all that time would not be possible if they were Olympic hopefuls, great scientists or had three children to feed. Also, I am very active myself, I have to do many things, so I cannot afford to meditate 7 1/2 hours, Exactly part of my point. and since much of the effect of meditation has spread into activity, I also don't need so much meditation anymore. But I still like it, and meditate every day - and I never regret doing a single meditation. Meditation has always been my best friend. (and that's not because I have no other friends ;-)) Good one. One thing more I like to mention: With meditation there comes a deep sense of detachment. That's obviously diametrically opposed to the sense of passion and interest, you may get with other things. That means you can't love the world anymore, but your love and sense of passion will be different. And to Judy: she doesn't know me at all, the life that I am leading, she just tries to take an easy shot at me. I don't think Judy takes easy shots. She considers carefully. She is not a careless person. Whether she is correct in her assessment about you or not only you can really know, if you are open enough to really evaluate what she has to say about you. If she is wrong she is wrong but I don't think she says what she says here without good reason - from her perspective. I have included a link that is hopefully clickable (based on your instructions the other day). It is kind of a cool video about equestrians. It doesn't say it all nor does it say it perfectly but it does touch on a bit of what I was talking about in my other post to you. It is only a couple of minutes long.Take a look:
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
[FairfieldLife] RE: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Re Of course M's decision to *withhold* TM from more possible initiates could have been a tactic to motivate those already Initiated to push harder for enlightenment since there would obviously be no more to come and the burden to achieve the Age of Enlightenment would then depend on the few he has directly had interaction with.: Yes, that sounds the most plausible explanation (apart from sheer greed - he might really have been expecting more people would pay the high costs and so generate more revenue). Maybe he just liked being the unopposed ruler in his own private kingdom surrounded by beaming acolytes. Once he was set up in that situation he was content to pull up the drawbridge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipHY7YO2N0Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipHY7YO2N0Y ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Of course M's decision to *withhold* TM from more possible initiates could have been a tactic to motivate those already Initiated to push harder for enlightenment since there would obviously be no more to come and the burden to achieve the Age of Enlightenment would then depend on the few he has directly had interaction with. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
[FairfieldLife] Yaqui Vastu
Years ago I was very impressed with the home designs of Buckminiter Fuller. I once visited Colorado to see solar, self sufficient homes. http://www.livingearthconstruction.com/ There's a nice house in San Antonio designed by the famous architect O'neil Ford: [image: Inline image 1] http://www.mysanantonio.com/outside-in-in-an-O-Neil-Ford-1369441.phphttp://www.mysanantonio.com/real_estate/article/Spaces-Bringing-the-outside-in-in-an-O-Neil-Ford-1369441.php Several years ago we drove up to Fairfield to look at some of the vastu designed homes. I've also looked at homes that employ Asian Feng Shui designs and we drove to New Mexico and Arizona to look around at places that have a Southwest design. According to what I've read, there's a lady down in Brazil that is building her house out of concrete. Has anybody ever wondered how much their home weighs? Go figure. Most people don't get to design their own dwelling - they buy or rent already built homes or apartments. I know a guy up in Austin that lives in a daub and wattle shack out on the road to erewhon - ever since his wife left him he does't even care about where he throws his dirty socks. LoL! So, Rita and I are designing our own house. It's going to be based on Yaqui Vastu principles. It's not complicated. The first thing you have to do is find a suituable place to build and then follow the natural flow of the physical terrain, so that you find a good balance of man-made and the natural landscape. The second thing you have to do is decide on pier and beam, or slab foundation. It's all about placement and positioning. So, what is Yaqui Vastu? Yaqui Vastu teaches alignment, placement, and the relationship of physical space in relation to man and nature. How we build our homes and how we set up the interior of our shelters has a dramatic impact on our way of living. An essential part of any vastu living home is a zone of tranquility.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC
If you mean your query: So I'm wondering why only sharelong got your knickers in such a twist since both Richard's and Ann's names also appear twice on the post count list, the answer is the trivial one that as I haven't been religiously reading through those post count messages your duplication just happened to be the first (and so only) one I'd noticed. I see my first suggestion that someone could increase their allowance by posting from different platforms wouldn't work as the FFL snitchers would be on the case pronto. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita asks a trollish question and then trollishly doesn't reply to a reasonable follow up. Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!: So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long . . 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yaqui Vastu
Thanks, Richard, nice topic. You may remember that some of the FF vastu homes are made of straw bales; some off the grid; some just eco friendly. I love this idea of building in harmony with the surrounding land. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:40 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Years ago I was very impressed with the home designs of Buckminiter Fuller. I once visited Colorado to see solar, self sufficient homes. http://www.livingearthconstruction.com/ There's a nice house in San Antonio designed by the famous architect O'neil Ford: http://www.mysanantonio.com/outside-in-in-an-O-Neil-Ford-1369441.php Several years ago we drove up to Fairfield to look at some of the vastu designed homes. I've also looked at homes that employ Asian Feng Shui designs and we drove to New Mexico and Arizona to look around at places that have a Southwest design. According to what I've read, there's a lady down in Brazil that is building her house out of concrete. Has anybody ever wondered how much their home weighs? Go figure. Most people don't get to design their own dwelling - they buy or rent already built homes or apartments. I know a guy up in Austin that lives in a daub and wattle shack out on the road to erewhon - ever since his wife left him he does't even care about where he throws his dirty socks. LoL! So, Rita and I are designing our own house. It's going to be based on Yaqui Vastu principles. It's not complicated. The first thing you have to do is find a suituable place to build and then follow the natural flow of the physical terrain, so that you find a good balance of man-made and the natural landscape. The second thing you have to do is decide on pier and beam, or slab foundation. It's all about placement and positioning. So, what is Yaqui Vastu? Yaqui Vastu teaches alignment, placement, and the relationship of physical space in relation to man and nature. How we build our homes and how we set up the interior of our shelters has a dramatic impact on our way of living. An essential part of any vastu living home is a zone of tranquility.
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.: Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC
But Seraphita, my duplication is NOT the first on the list, Richard's is! Ok, I admit it: MY knicks are in a twist!BTW, I don't remember that people snitched on others. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:44 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: If you mean your query: So I'm wondering why only sharelong got your knickers in such a twist since both Richard's and Ann's names also appear twice on the post count list, the answer is the trivial one that as I haven't been religiously reading through those post count messages your duplication just happened to be the first (and so only) one I'd noticed. I see my first suggestion that someone could increase their allowance by posting from different platforms wouldn't work as the FFL snitchers would be on the case pronto. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita asks a trollish question and then trollishly doesn't reply to a reasonable follow up. Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!: So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long . . 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.: Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC
Not the first - but the first I'd noticed as I only glanced at the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But Seraphita, my duplication is NOT the first on the list, Richard's is! Ok, I admit it: MY knicks are in a twist! BTW, I don't remember that people snitched on others. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:44 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: If you mean your query: So I'm wondering why only sharelong got your knickers in such a twist since both Richard's and Ann's names also appear twice on the post count list, the answer is the trivial one that as I haven't been religiously reading through those post count messages your duplication just happened to be the first (and so only) one I'd noticed. I see my first suggestion that someone could increase their allowance by posting from different platforms wouldn't work as the FFL snitchers would be on the case pronto. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita asks a trollish question and then trollishly doesn't reply to a reasonable follow up. Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!: So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long . . 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC
The Post Count doesn't track by member account names. That's because it previously wasn't available from the header and I'm not sure that it can be parsed with PHP. But Python can parse those and I modified the Python script which runs locally and parses the FFL mbox files on Thunderbird. Here's that count as of this morning: Start Date (UTC): 2013-10-05 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 2013-10-12 00:00:00 535 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 15:56 63 punditster 52 sharelong60 47 s3raphita 46 bhairitu 43 awoelflebater 36 turquoiseb 32 authfriend 31 doctordumbass 30 mjackson74 26 iranitea 26 dhamiltony2k5 21 jr_esq 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 8 mdixon.6569 8 j_alexander_stanley 8 emptybill 7 None (this is the post count email) 4 jedi_spock 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 3 rick_archer 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 dickmays 2 anartaxius 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 obbajeeba 1 drpsutphen Posters: 31 On 10/10/2013 08:17 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!: So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long . . 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC
Ok, Seraphita, I just hope you haven't been absorbed by the FFL Borg! On Fri, 10/11/13, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 11:01 AM Not the first - but the first I'd noticed as I only glanced at the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But Seraphita, my duplication is NOT the first on the list, Richard's is! Ok, I admit it: MY knicks are in a twist! BTW, I don't remember that people snitched on others. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:44 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: If you mean your query: So I'm wondering why only sharelong got your knickers in such a twist since both Richard's and Ann's names also appear twice on the post count list, the answer is the trivial one that as I haven't been religiously reading through those post count messages your duplication just happened to be the first (and so only) one I'd noticed. I see my first suggestion that someone could increase their allowance by posting from different platforms wouldn't work as the FFL snitchers would be on the case pronto. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita asks a trollish question and then trollishly doesn't reply to a reasonable follow up. Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!:So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long .. 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work in community and consequently tend to live with more empathy towards others. That simply is the elements of the TM movement community also. It just is. The TM-Rajas were told as part of their deal specifically to not mix with the rest of us. A very few have come to meditate in the Dome. But most do not. To themselves they aren't part of it really. Evidently there is a scientific problem there with themselves and it reflects in how they continue to price TM and the vigor of the larger TM meditation movement. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.: Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Buck, I'm objecting to the word ALL because I've known rich people who do care and poor people who don't. And yes, I've read this article and recognize that there are the tendencies. On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:07 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work in community and consequently tend to live with more empathy towards others. That simply is the elements of the TM movement community also. It just is. The TM-Rajas were told as part of their deal specifically to not mix with the rest of us. A very few have come to meditate in the Dome. But most do not. To themselves they aren't part of it really. Evidently there is a scientific problem there with themselves and it reflects in how they continue to price TM and the vigor of the larger TM meditation movement. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.: Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Share wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I suspect you're the only person here who thought this is what Buck was saying. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! You didn't bother to read the NYTimes column he cited, did you? (snip) http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 There's all kinds of research on this; it isn't just an idle generalization. I mean, we could always just stick our heads in the sand and pretend this empathy gap doesn't exist. But if we don't ackowledge that it exists, it'll just keep getting worse.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: World Wealth Levels
Most people confuse communism with authoritarianism. Communism is just collectivism and can exist in various forms. For instance gangs are often collectives. That is kinda demonstrated in the US TV series Sons of Anarchy where the motorcycle gang is very democratic (they vote on things) and share the profits they make with all club members. Two years after the Soviet Union set up their collectivist society Lenin told Dr. Armand Hammer it was already failing. This has often been the case through out history. Witness what happened after the French Revolution. We very much have fascism in the US because the corporations have taken over and run the government. I think the founding fathers of the US pretty much had it right: keep the commons socialist and allow some limited free enterprise. They had a bad taste in their mouths from a rather large corporation called the British East India Company. Corporations in the US were allowed only if they served the public good (we don't have very many doing that these days), they were limited in size and had to dissolve after 40 years. Then Santa Clara vs Southern Pacific Railroad, a post Civil War Supreme Court decision changed all that. The bottom line though is the planet just has too many people for the existing infrastructure. Buckminster Fuller saw this emerging and said the problem could be solved but the establishment would need to give up power to do so. And they don't want to do that. On 10/10/2013 07:12 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: The state of modern China reminds me of that tragic figure, the American fascist Francis Parker Yockey. You know how there has always been a divide between those who see Communism and fascism as deadly enemies and those (like me) who see fascism and Communism as kissing cousins - both being opposed to liberal conceptions of society. Well, after the disaster of WWII most fascists thought that, as their great enemy had been Communism, they should support capitalist USA and the west against Communism as an interim step. But Yockey claimed that, on the contrary, the war had effectively pushed Communism in the Soviet Union into pseudo-fascism. It would be better for fascists, like him, to support the Soviets in the fight against capitalism and then later change Communist societies into full-on fascist states. Well, look at China now: there is way, way more private industry there than there is in modern (supposedly capitalist) Britain! The Chinese system now is really more state capitalism than Communism. What's more the Chinese are rabidly nationalistic and militaristic while retaining the totalitarian control of old-style Communism. Their system is now fascism in everything but name. Yockey has been proved right. (Of course, the Soviet experiment failed and they have reverted to gangster capitalism.) PS: do I need to say that Seraphita is all in favour of the liberal model! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 10/09/2013 07:55 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: It's astonishing how a once-communist country has descended so rapidly to such a gangster, money-obsessed mentality. Think pendulum swings and opportunists. There's a similar tale to tell in China, of course. There it is even weirder because they are still officially a communist country and a portrait of mass-murderer Mao dominates Tiananmen Square. Haven't they heard of cognitive dissonance? And how do you define communism? No cheating now. I want the definition you have in your mind as you read this and no peeking at Wikipedia, etc. I get so pissed at the crass commericalism and the manipulation of the masses in the US and I think that few decades of socialism would be good for the country. It would be divine justice. The link you post also says that Americans account for 42% of the world's billionaires. Are they doing anything to benefit the wider community of their fellow citizens with that wealth? The Tea Partiers will tell you the rich are the jobs creators. Yes, low paying jobs here and abroad. Progressive taxes should have NEVER been rolled back. No one should be allowed to have an estate worth more than a few million dollars. Anything more is just greed. You will be told that some of the billionaires are great philantropists but often that is just for image so they can keep gathering money. Throw the money changers out of the temple and of the earth!
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC
Re I just hope you haven't been absorbed by the FFL Borg: I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member - Groucho ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ok, Seraphita, I just hope you haven't been absorbed by the FFL Borg! On Fri, 10/11/13, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 11:01 AM Not the first - but the first I'd noticed as I only glanced at the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But Seraphita, my duplication is NOT the first on the list, Richard's is! Ok, I admit it: MY knicks are in a twist! BTW, I don't remember that people snitched on others. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:44 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: If you mean your query: So I'm wondering why only sharelong got your knickers in such a twist since both Richard's and Ann's names also appear twice on the post count list, the answer is the trivial one that as I haven't been religiously reading through those post count messages your duplication just happened to be the first (and so only) one I'd noticed. I see my first suggestion that someone could increase their allowance by posting from different platforms wouldn't work as the FFL snitchers would be on the case pronto. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita asks a trollish question and then trollishly doesn't reply to a reasonable follow up. Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!:So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long .. 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
They need to make it much easier to working people who look to start meditation. Like, pricing Transcendental Meditation to teach [More] meditators, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Share wrote: Buck, I'm objecting to the word ALL because I've known rich people who do care and poor people who don't. LOL. You're the only person who used the word you're objecting to, Share. And yes, I've read this article and recognize that there are the tendencies. Which are, of course, what Buck was referring to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!
Okay, I have a Google Nexus phone, but it wasn't free but I didn't pay what the telcos say it costs when they offered it as a contract phone. I bought it direct from Google Play and they update the phone OS when the latest OS comes out (eat your heart out Alex). But I don't chatter much on phones. I mainly communicate via email. BTW, I owned my first cellphone back in the early 1990s. I paid $20 a month for 60 minutes of talk. Today I pay $30 a month for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texting (which I rarely do) and 5 GB of 4G data which I use though only around 1/2 GB a month. Go figure. The plan is a prepay too (no contract). The Nexus is GSM so if I want to move to another GSM carrier I just get their SIM card and install it. And the phone acts as a remote for the Chromecast. I have Medicare Part A only. I won't pay for the B part nor for supplemental. If I have a medical emergency I figure I'll negotiate a lower fee from the provider (you can do that BTW). Look into what Uninted Health Care pays their CEO BTW. His salary is too damn high! We not only need a minimum wage but a maximum wage too. On 10/11/2013 07:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There's an old guy I know who lives up in Austin - he has a Virgin Mobile 'pay as you go' cell phone. It's a Samsung flip phone - simple operation and it was free. Now that's better! When he needs to talk he can buy some minutes at the store - he can buy a $10 or $20 top-up card. The old guy is only spending a few dollars every three months on his phone! Now this is really funny - the guy doesn't have anyone to talk to much, but he can pay for his phone as he goes. LoL! The big problem is that the rent's too damn high! The old guy is on Medicare, Part A and Part B, and he's got UnitedHealth Care as a supplement. 'Thousands of doctors fired by United HealthCare' News8: http://www.wtnh.com/news/health/thousands-of-doctors-fired-by-united-healthcare On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: The rent is just too damn high! The rent bill is up; the electric bill is up; the water bill is up; the cable TV bill is up. These days it costs forty bucks just to take a date out for a drink and dinner at Sam's Burger Joint! Go figure. Now, the medical insurance bill is going up? Not to mention fixing the price - so that younger people pay more to keep the premiums down for the older folks. If we had a single payer system for medical care, the federal government would pay all medical expenses for everyone. So, how much would the rent go up with a government paid health care system? Go figure. If I am elected, I promise a job for everyone so they can make a decent living wage and pay their own medical insurance bills. That's my ticket - to create jobs to make money and lower medical care expenses. The trouble is that loss aversion also militates against buying insurance. Especially if you don't make a lot of money--and many young people don't--writing that premium check is painful if not prohibitive. 'The Young and the Clueless' Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303796404579097192784900688.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion On 10/10/2013 7:41 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: It looks like New York and New Jersey have some of the highest taxes in the U.S. And, the rent is too damn high! ...six of the top 10 states with the best business climate are western states, bolstered at least in part by new revenues from energy production that allows them to reduce other types of taxes. 'Western U.S. best for business, Tax Foundation says' http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/10/09/western-u-s-best-for-business-tax-foundation-says/ On 10/4/2013 9:27 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: So, when I returned the two cable boxes to Time-Warner and to terminate the HD and DVR service, I asked them how much would it cost just to have basic cable. The guy said they would have to send out a technician to put a 'trap' on the line to filter out the other channels, so I told them to close the account. It's Friday and the cable is still active, but I have powered antennas from the Shack anyway. Go figure. The rent is too damn high! This week I took my daughter's PT Cruiser in to the dealership because she said the front was 'wobbling' at 35-40 mph. The service manager called back and said one of the front tires had a 'ball' on it. He recommended getting four new Goodyear Eagles, balanced and a front end alignment - $950. What!? Now, why would anyone want to pay close to $1000 to put Goodyear Eagles back on the same car that already had a Goodyear tire with a ball on it at 30,000 miles? So, I had the tires rotated, front to back, for $15 on the south side, sweet!. Maybe I'll buy two new Falken tires at Discount Tires. Go figure. The rent is too damn high!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pay As You Go Health Insurance
The problem is that health insurance companies, which were once non-profit, became for profit. I only carried catastrophic health care insurance with a high deductible before I went on Medicare which I also have set up that way. We pay a lot in federal taxes, why can't that pay for everyone's health care than for wars to profit American corporations? Paying for health care as you go would be okay if the doctor didn't see you as a mark to pay for his new sailboat. On 10/11/2013 07:54 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Health care insurance is supposed to pay for your health care minus a reasonable deductible amount. Most people are on a group health care insurance policy where they work - they pay part and the employer pays part. Others are paying for health care insurance out of their own pocket. Sometimes it costs more than the rent to just pay the premiums every month. And, the rent is already too damn high! Millions of people don't even have any health care insurance! So, the first thing I would do if elected would be to create jobs that pay good money. Everyone would have a job that paid a decent standard of living wage. Then, I would bring down the high cost of medical care. People could then pay for their own health care as they go. It's not complicated. The idea is to go to a total cash system - you pay for your own health care with money you earned. There is no insurance. It's that simple.
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
To me a headline Rich People Could Care Less implies all rich people. It's kind of sneaky spin, creating a harmful meme. Are the rich people on FFL uncaring and lacking in empathy? I don't think so. On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:25 AM, judy stein authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share wrote: Buck, I'm objecting to the word ALL because I've known rich people who do care and poor people who don't. LOL. You're the only person who used the word you're objecting to, Share. And yes, I've read this article and recognize that there are the tendencies. Which are, of course, what Buck was referring to.
[FairfieldLife] RE: New Pope uses old meditation practice..
I read this yesterday too. I was wondering what meditation technique the Pope was using. He might have started something new here. It may be a form of anapanasati meditation technique which I'm familiar with. It's simple and does not require a mantra. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: It's called *Waiting on the Lord* From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: New Pope uses old meditation practice.. Filled with light. Sounds like a Quaker to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In an interview with the Rome daily La Repubblica, editor Eugenio Scalfari quoted the pope as saying he was seized by a great anxiety moments after his election and asked the cardinals in the Sistine Chapel to give him a few minutes time to think things over. To make it go away and relax, I closed my eyes and made every thought disappear, even the thought of refusing to accept the position, as the liturgical procedure allows, he was quoted as saying. At a certain point I was filled with a great light. It lasted a moment, but to me it seemed very long. Then the light faded, I got up suddenly and walked into the room where the cardinals were waiting. The pope was quoted as saying he signed the acceptance form and went out on the balcony to be introduced to the world as Pope Francis.
[FairfieldLife] Smartwatch May be the Next Fad
I'm not sure if I'd buy one right away. But I'll be watching what the companies will be offering. This trend reminds me of Dick Tracy or the Predator--whichever suits your fancy. http://news.yahoo.com/galaxy-gear-review-what-it-does-well-174954150.html http://news.yahoo.com/galaxy-gear-review-what-it-does-well-174954150.html
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
A year ago the only sector in the economy that was adding jobs was retail. Average for those jobs was $8.81 per hour for their average working day of six hours. Most working people work and live at or around poverty. Where do you send people to learn to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: They need to make it much easier to working people who look to start meditation. Like, pricing Transcendental Meditation to teach [More] meditators, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
To free non-TM meditation workshops which take place over a weekend. The TM method of teaching is retro 1970s when people did things in the evenings. On 10/11/2013 10:44 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *A year ago the only sector in the economy that was adding jobs was retail. Average for those jobs was $8.81 per hour for their average working day of six hours. Most working people work and live at or around poverty. Where do you send people to learn to meditate?* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *They need to make it much easier to working people who look to start meditation. Like,* *pricing Transcendental Meditation to teach [More] meditators,* *-Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. * *We're talking working people. A living wage:* _http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers_ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “*Rich people just care less,”* *Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem.* *Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy.* *This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action.* “*Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them.* *These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” * http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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The Rajas mostly are just educational Rajas. One of my plans was the coupon concept which Maharishi liked so much, which I first thought of when I was about 12-13 years old. Maybe if I got my weight in gold , it would workout better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A year ago the only sector in the economy that was adding jobs was retail. Average for those jobs was $8.81 per hour for their average working day of six hours. Most working people work and live at or around poverty. Where do you send people to learn to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: They need to make it much easier to working people who look to start meditation. Like, pricing Transcendental Meditation to teach [More] meditators, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Carlos Castaneda on self-importance and petty tyrants
There is only one problem with your claim: shamanism came to America from Asia, China, Mongolia, Siberia, and Alaska. There are numerous influences reflected in the New World shamanism of Don Juan Matus. Just like there is a strong shamanistic influence in the Bön religion in Central Asian, and in Tibetan Buddhism. Shamanism_among_the_indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas We now know the sources for most of Castaneda's descriptions the teachings of Don Juan Matus due to the availability of the stack logs of requested books at the UCLA Library. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: turquoiseb: Carlos Castaneda on self-importance and petty tyrants Everyone knows that Castaneda and Rama got most of their ideas from reading books like the Bhagavad Gita and the Ramayana epic. Some of these ideas they wrote about are almost pure Buddhism and Hinduism. In the latter case, Rama got most of his stuff from Blavatsky. But, neither was apparently a real warrior. Go figure. Richard, everyone who's been here a while knows that you're a know-nothing troll who shouldn't be paid any attention to at all. But for the benefit of possible lurkers or newbies who have not yet figured this out and might actually *believe* this horseshit, I will correct you. NOTHING could be further from the truth that Castaneda based the stuff in his books on Indian scriptures or concepts. His Warrior's Way teaching really IS based more on Yaqui concepts that he admittedly might have stolen from real Mexican shamans. But these concepts have almost nothing to do with Eastern teachings. The entire emphasis is on *Life In The Relative*, and living it as well and as successfully as possible. There is no concept of enlightenment, no concept of reincarnation, and above all no concept of renunciation or withdrawal from the world. It's a very, very, very pragmatic set of teachings, having to do with life here in the real world, and how to make that life work as successfully as possible. While there ARE concepts of saving and storing energy for the purposes of exploring different levels of life (Separate Realities, to use his term), there is NO sense of evolution or progress towards some Woo Woo goal of enlightenment or liberation as it is thought of in New Agey versions of Hindu and Eastern teachings (read TM). In his view, ya get out of life pretty much what you put into it -- no karma, no past-life influences, no astrological influences, certainly no S-V influences, and above all no gods, goddesses, or other beings whose asses you have to kiss to evolve or have nice things happen to you. Get some smarts, dumbass. If you *ever* read Carlos Castaneda, it must have been back during a period when you were seriously stoned, because you missed pretty much all of the major points of what he was about. :-)
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Share wrote: To me a headline Rich People Could Care Less implies all rich people. It's kind of sneaky spin, creating a harmful meme. Only to airheads like you, Share. Seriously, you've lived on this earth for 65 years and never noticed that you have to read at least some of an article or essay beyond the headline--which is typically just a few words--to know what it's about? Oh, wait, you said you DID read the article. So you know there was no such implication. Are the rich people on FFL uncaring and lacking in empathy? I don't think so. Non sequitur. Remember, you're the only person who thought Buck was saying all rich people are uncaring--and he wasn't saying that, nor was anybody else. You've just made this up-- sneaky spin and harmful meme and all--in your head; it has no relationship to reality. You wanted to say something Important and Thoughtful, and as you so often do, you just babbled out the first thing that came to your mind without thinking it through. As a result, you said something Obvious and Dumb.
[FairfieldLife] Shamans and Don Juan Matus
They don't call Native Americans Indians for nothing, since they all came from Asia in the first place. Go figure. According to what I've read, a recent study of a 40,000 year old skeleton from China showed that early modern humans present in the Beijing area 40,000 y ago were related to the ancestors of many present-day Asians as well as Native Americans. So, what is a shaman anyway? A shaman is anybody who contacts a spirit world while in an altered state of consciousness. The idea is based on the notion that the visible world is of the senses is pervaded by invisible forces or spirits which affect the lives of living people. Shamans can reach altered states of consciousness in order to encounter and interact with the spirit world and channel transcendental energies. For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have heart, on any path that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel—looking, looking, breathlessly. - Don Juan Matus Only known photography of Don Juan Matus: [image: Inline image 1]
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Important Request
Forwarded from: Dr. John Hagelin developm...@mum.edu Dear Friend, For the first time in many years, our community is facing a CAFO threat west of Maharishi Vedic City. A 1200-head confinement is proposed 1.75 miles from the city’s border. But we are not facing this alone. Jefferson County Farmers Neighbors, Inc. (JFAN) is working right beside us, pulling out all the stops to fight the CAFO. Our community has a great ally in JFAN. The JFAN Annual Meeting is quickly approaching, and once again, they have put together an exciting and informative meeting – and one that has particular significance for us this year. Three renowned environmental warriors will speak at No More! How One Woman and a Team of Lawyers are Helping Neighbors Stand Up to Factory Farms on Wednesday, October 16 at 7:30 pm at the Fairfield Arts Convention Center. You won’t want to miss this meeting. Lynn Henning is a heroic CAFO fighter and winner of the prestigious Goldman Environmental Prize in 2010 for her work in Michigan. She has forced the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality to crack down on CAFO violations that would otherwise go unnoticed. Henning will share stories of her work and show us how we can uncover similar pollution problems here in Iowa. Charlie Speer and Richard Middleton are two highly successful environmental lawyers with a track record of winning multi-million dollar settlements and verdicts nationwide. They will discuss how they hold CAFO owners and livestock corporations accountable for the damage they cause through nuisance lawsuits. The attorneys will also speak on the “Right to Farm” laws that severely limit local control. What is particularly exciting is that Speer and Middleton recently partnered with JFAN’s legal counsel, David E. Sykes, to now take cases in Iowa. The new legal team is already fighting on behalf of eight Iowa groups representing over 200 people in five Iowa counties, with additional cases now under review. The demand for pork products from the growing Asian market is driving the expansion of factory hog farming in Iowa. Therefore, to protect our quality of life, it is crucial that Jefferson County stand strong in its opposition to CAFOs. A packed audience at the JFAN Annual Meeting sends an unmistakable message to the corporate farming community that CAFOs are not acceptable in Jefferson County. Your participation actively creates a strong deterrent to CAFO expansion. We all must play a role in protecting our precious Super Radiance community from the damaging impacts of CAFOs. Your attendance at the JFAN Annual Meeting on October 16 is one of the best, easiest, and most effective ways to do this. I strongly encourage you and everyone in our meditating community to attend this year’s interesting and inspiring meeting with Lynn Henning, Charlie Speer, Richard Middleton and JFAN. This simple, enjoyable act will go a long way towards safeguarding Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City from the harmful effects of CAFOs. Thank you for all your profound support of our precious community. Dr. John Hagelin
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pay As You Go Health Insurance
The key words in my message are jobs and bring down the high cost of medical care. If people had jobs making good money, they could pay for their own healthcare. And, if the high cost of healthcare came down, people could afford health care. It's that simple. So, I am not totally against catastrophic medical insurance, and I'd be willing to pay a flat tax for that. If everybody had a job, they could all pay a small flat tax for the catastrophic medical insurance and the government would be the single payer. But, nobody, even the government, should not have to pay $10 for an aspirin if a guy is in the hospital for a headache. It doesn't make any sense to impose a tax on the people and then send them to a web site that doesn't even work! Go figure. On 10/11/2013 11:32 AM, Bhairitu wrote: The problem is that health insurance companies, which were once non-profit, became for profit. I only carried catastrophic health care insurance with a high deductible before I went on Medicare which I also have set up that way. We pay a lot in federal taxes, why can't that pay for everyone's health care than for wars to profit American corporations? Paying for health care as you go would be okay if the doctor didn't see you as a mark to pay for his new sailboat. On 10/11/2013 07:54 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Health care insurance is supposed to pay for your health care minus a reasonable deductible amount. Most people are on a group health care insurance policy where they work - they pay part and the employer pays part. Others are paying for health care insurance out of their own pocket. Sometimes it costs more than the rent to just pay the premiums every month. And, the rent is already too damn high! Millions of people don't even have any health care insurance! So, the first thing I would do if elected would be to create jobs that pay good money. Everyone would have a job that paid a decent standard of living wage. Then, I would bring down the high cost of medical care. People could then pay for their own health care as they go. It's not complicated. The idea is to go to a total cash system - you pay for your own health care with money you earned. There is no insurance. It's that simple.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pay As You Go Health Insurance
On 10/11/2013 08:21 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re So, the first thing I would do if elected would be to create jobs that pay good money.: And just how do you intend pulling off that magic trick? It can't be done by fiat. Isn't it an inevitable consequence of globalisation that wage rates in the developed and developing worlds will approach each other. Their rates grow; our's decline. Where's Robin Hood and his merry men when we need them? Plus it appears that there isn't enough work that needs to be done to hire everyone. Time for a new leisure society. That will require a reboot of society. Re Then, I would bring down the high cost of medical care. Medical care costs are rising as we're all living longer and ever more expensive and sophisticated procedures are becoming available. Actually studies show the boomers and their kids will be living shorter. Medical costs are rising because everyone is out to get theirs while they can. Greed, greed, greed. Re There is no insurance. It's that simple.: What have you got against insurance? I have car insurance and my property is insured. The insurance means I can be relaxed about, say, having this laptop stolen. My car insurance is compulsory, so if I'm at fault in an accident some innocent doesn't have to pick up the bill. Couldn't health-care insurance also be made compulsory? And being compulsory for everyone, it would bring down the price for everyone. In the US it is grossly over priced. After all they need that money to pay their administrators their outrageous salaries. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Health care insurance is supposed to pay for your health care minus a reasonable deductible amount. Most people are on a group health care insurance policy where they work - they pay part and the employer pays part. Others are paying for health care insurance out of their own pocket. Sometimes it costs more than the rent to just pay the premiums every month. And, the rent is already too damn high! Millions of people don't even have any health care insurance! So, the first thing I would do if elected would be to create jobs that pay good money. Everyone would have a job that paid a decent standard of living wage. Then, I would bring down the high cost of medical care. People could then pay for their own health care as they go. It's not complicated. The idea is to go to a total cash system - you pay for your own health care with money you earned. There is no insurance. It's that simple.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count, was Post Count
What a refreshing reply - I thought I was trying to converse with just lurkers for awhile. Go figure. But, you'll have to excuse me for not getting around to replying to each and every posted comment here - with four grand kids running around, we keep pretty busy these days! About the Post Count: It's not complicated, at least it wasn't until Yahoo Neo came along. That's when I switched to using Thunderbird to read and reply to messages. With Thunderbird, I can specify what name appears on my posts, like 'Richard J. Williams', or whatever, as the sender. What's great about Thunderbird is that it's an email reader and a discussion group reader. None of those messy, distracting advertisements, gadgets, and pop-ups - it's more for professionals. LoL! Did I mention that Thunderbird is free? At other times, I use Google Mail to post to the group because I like the feature where you can include an image in the post by referencing an inline image url for the image. When I do that, what shows up is my my email address - pundits...@gmail.com. and the images can come from my web site. Go figure. So, for the record, my name is Richard J. Williams and my Google email address is pundits...@gmail.com. You can send an email reply, or leave a message for me on this bulletin board, or you can call my cell. Do not call my previous place of employ. LoL! Or, if you're ever at the Starbucks near Hot Wells, look for the guy in the black T-shirt with the laptop, the guy with a big grin on his face. Otherwise, you can be leaving a message for me with Rita at Whole Foods - I'll get back to you. P.S. Anyone who is interested in using Thunderbird should key in the following text, exactly, in the Send To text box (substituting your own name or handle): Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 10/11/2013 11:01 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Not the first - but the first I'd noticed as I only glanced at the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But Seraphita, my duplication is NOT the first on the list, Richard's is! Ok, I admit it: MY knicks are in a twist!BTW, I don't remember that people snitched on others. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:44 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: If you mean your query: So I'm wondering why only sharelong got your knickers in such a twist since both Richard's and Ann's names also appear twice on the post count list, the answer is the trivial one that as I haven't been religiously reading through those post count messages your duplication just happened to be the first (and so only) one I'd noticed. I see my first suggestion that someone could increase their allowance by posting from different platforms wouldn't work as the FFL snitchers would be on the case pronto. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita asks a trollish question and then trollishly doesn't reply to a reasonable follow up. Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!: So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long . . 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 sharelong60 1 obbajeeba Posters: 34 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count, was Post Count
FYI, this is what the Python script uses: X-Yahoo-Profile: punditster That stays the same regardless of what email account, web mail or if you use the web site. I haven't had time to see if there was a way to parse that in PHP which is what the script Alex runs uses and if I did Alex probably wouldn't want to mess with it anyway. These days the post count is superfluous. On 10/11/2013 12:24 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What a refreshing reply - I thought I was trying to converse with just lurkers for awhile. Go figure. But, you'll have to excuse me for not getting around to replying to each and every posted comment here - with four grand kids running around, we keep pretty busy these days! About the Post Count: It's not complicated, at least it wasn't until Yahoo Neo came along. That's when I switched to using Thunderbird to read and reply to messages. With Thunderbird, I can specify what name appears on my posts, like 'Richard J. Williams', or whatever, as the sender. What's great about Thunderbird is that it's an email reader and a discussion group reader. None of those messy, distracting advertisements, gadgets, and pop-ups - it's more for professionals. LoL! Did I mention that Thunderbird is free? At other times, I use Google Mail to post to the group because I like the feature where you can include an image in the post by referencing an inline image url for the image. When I do that, what shows up is my my email address - pundits...@gmail.com. and the images can come from my web site. Go figure. So, for the record, my name is Richard J. Williams and my Google email address is pundits...@gmail.com. You can send an email reply, or leave a message for me on this bulletin board, or you can call my cell. Do not call my previous place of employ. LoL! Or, if you're ever at the Starbucks near Hot Wells, look for the guy in the black T-shirt with the laptop, the guy with a big grin on his face. Otherwise, you can be leaving a message for me with Rita at Whole Foods - I'll get back to you. P.S. Anyone who is interested in using Thunderbird should key in the following text, exactly, in the Send To text box (substituting your own name or handle): Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 10/11/2013 11:01 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Not the first - but the first I'd noticed as I only glanced at the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But Seraphita, my duplication is NOT the first on the list, Richard's is! Ok, I admit it: MY knicks are in a twist!BTW, I don't remember that people snitched on others. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:44 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: If you mean your query: So I'm wondering why only sharelong got your knickers in such a twist since both Richard's and Ann's names also appear twice on the post count list, the answer is the trivial one that as I haven't been religiously reading through those post count messages your duplication just happened to be the first (and so only) one I'd noticed. I see my first suggestion that someone could increase their allowance by posting from different platforms wouldn't work as the FFL snitchers would be on the case pronto. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita asks a trollish question and then trollishly doesn't reply to a reasonable follow up. Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before!: So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? Curiouser and curiouser . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than before! On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then? 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long . . 1 sharelong60 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 471 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 00:03:01 53 Richard J. Williams 45 Bhairitu 43 Share Long 37 s3raphita 35 turquoiseb 34 awoelflebater 30 doctordumbass 25 Michael Jackson 24 iranitea 23 authfriend 21 jr_esq 19 dhamiltony2k5 14 cardemaister 9 merudanda 7 j_alexander_stanley 6 emptybill 5 judy stein 5 Richard Williams 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Mike Dixon 4 Ann Woelfle Bater 3 Jason 2 punditster 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 2 Rick Archer 2 Dick Mays 1
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Judy, airhead or not, I'm grateful to be me with all my strengths and flaws rather than you with all your strengths and flaws. On Friday, October 11, 2013 1:10 PM, judy stein authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share wrote: To me a headline Rich People Could Care Less implies all rich people. It's kind of sneaky spin, creating a harmful meme. Only to airheads like you, Share. Seriously, you've lived on this earth for 65 years and never noticed that you have to read at least some of an article or essay beyond the headline--which is typically just a few words--to know what it's about? Oh, wait, you said you DID read the article. So you know there was no such implication. Are the rich people on FFL uncaring and lacking in empathy? I don't think so. Non sequitur. Remember, you're the only person who thought Buck was saying all rich people are uncaring--and he wasn't saying that, nor was anybody else. You've just made this up-- sneaky spin and harmful meme and all--in your head; it has no relationship to reality. You wanted to say something Important and Thoughtful, and as you so often do, you just babbled out the first thing that came to your mind without thinking it through. As a result, you said something Obvious and Dumb.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yaqui Vastu
We are thinking about a modest home - one with an interior courtyard garden for the Zone of Tranquility. Spanish style house exterior courtyard front door: http://www.cococozy.com/http://www.cococozy.com/2010/06/see-this-house-spanish-revived-for.html [image: Inline image 2] Spanish style house exterior courtyard front door: http://www.cococozy.com/2010/06/see-this-house-spanish-revived-for.html On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Thanks, Richard, nice topic. You may remember that some of the FF vastu homes are made of straw bales; some off the grid; some just eco friendly. I love this idea of building in harmony with the surrounding land. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:40 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Years ago I was very impressed with the home designs of Buckminiter Fuller. I once visited Colorado to see solar, self sufficient homes. http://www.livingearthconstruction.com/ There's a nice house in San Antonio designed by the famous architect O'neil Ford: [image: Inline image 1] http://www.mysanantonio.com/outside-in-in-an-O-Neil-Ford-1369441.phphttp://www.mysanantonio.com/real_estate/article/Spaces-Bringing-the-outside-in-in-an-O-Neil-Ford-1369441.php Several years ago we drove up to Fairfield to look at some of the vastu designed homes. I've also looked at homes that employ Asian Feng Shui designs and we drove to New Mexico and Arizona to look around at places that have a Southwest design. According to what I've read, there's a lady down in Brazil that is building her house out of concrete. Has anybody ever wondered how much their home weighs? Go figure. Most people don't get to design their own dwelling - they buy or rent already built homes or apartments. I know a guy up in Austin that lives in a daub and wattle shack out on the road to erewhon - ever since his wife left him he does't even care about where he throws his dirty socks. LoL! So, Rita and I are designing our own house. It's going to be based on Yaqui Vastu principles. It's not complicated. The first thing you have to do is find a suituable place to build and then follow the natural flow of the physical terrain, so that you find a good balance of man-made and the natural landscape. The second thing you have to do is decide on pier and beam, or slab foundation. It's all about placement and positioning. So, what is Yaqui Vastu? Yaqui Vastu teaches alignment, placement, and the relationship of physical space in relation to man and nature. How we build our homes and how we set up the interior of our shelters has a dramatic impact on our way of living. An essential part of any vastu living home is a zone of tranquility.
[FairfieldLife] Why Republicans Should Be Very Afraid
Most Americans believe that the Republicans are to blame for the fiscal debacle we are having right now. This anger can carry to losses of the Republican encumbents in the next election. http://news.yahoo.com/why-republicans-should-be-very--very-afraid-192943188.html http://news.yahoo.com/why-republicans-should-be-very--very-afraid-192943188.html
[FairfieldLife] Technology
So, the Obamacare web site isn't working too well - what else is new? Sometimes it's hell working in IT - for years I tried to get the enrollment systems right at a major community college. When I first got there, they were enrolling students using paper and pen and long lines standing out in the sun. Teachers would be sitting at long tables enrolling students one by one - it took all day just to enroll in a few courses. Enrollment was hell back then! Then, we got our first PC - an IBM running on DOS. Instructors would walk all the way across campus just to look at it, not use it, just look at it. The college IT director couldn't understand what we were going to do with all that hard drive space! Today, there are over 5,000 PCs on the main campus and another 5,000 spread out over twenty computer labs on five campuses. And, enrollment is still hell! The school has at least three Oracle databases for student enrollment, one for credit card payments, personal data like adds and drops, grades, and the online library database, and then the course database. Not to mention the 3,000 online courses using the Blackboard database! Who do they think is going to run all this technology with me gone? Go figure. Somebody should write ONE simple program called 'schools'. Go figure. 'Some say health-care site's problems highlight flawed federal IT policies' Technology: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/some-say-health-care-sites-problems-highlight-flawed-federal-it-policies/2013/10/09/d558da42-30fe-11e3-8627-c5d7de0a046b_story.html
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Share bleated: Judy, airhead or not, I'm grateful to be me with all my strengths and flaws rather than you with all your strengths and flaws. Well, of course you are. You'd last about ten minutes if you were me, because I don't hide from reality.
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! On Friday, October 11, 2013 4:30 PM, judy stein authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share bleated: Judy, airhead or not, I'm grateful to be me with all my strengths and flaws rather than you with all your strengths and flaws. Well, of course you are. You'd last about ten minutes if you were me, because I don't hide from reality.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
According to MMY in Beacon Light of the Himalayas' For our practice, we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. This statement was confirmed by Satyanand at a CCP I once attended in Berkely with Jerry Jarvis. Bhagavan Das wrote that MMY gave him the bija mantra Ram to use in his meditation. But, strictly speaking, the bija mantras are not the actual names of the Gods - they are just the nick-names of the Devatas. Apparently only very highly evolved individuals get to be on a first name basis with God Almighty! In fact, all the TM bija mantras are common tantric householder mantras. All the Devatas such as Rama, Ram Chandra, Devaki, Vasudeva and Krishna used these same mantras. The Devatas are deified heroes, that is, that are highly evolved humans. They reached a high level of consciousness by yogic means - tapas, and by utilizing the same non-ideational mnemonic devices as we TMers use today. That's why MMY selected only suitable mantras that the ancient yogis used, because they are time-tested. In the Shankaracharya tradition, such mantras indeed fetch to us the grace of the Devatas, and they make us happier in every walk of life. So, I mean, who doesn't like to hear the sound of their own name? Work cited: 'It's Here Now (Are You?)' By Bhagavan Das Broadway, 1998 On 10/10/2013 6:01 PM, iranitea wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: When MMY first started out in Kerala, according to 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas', he only used Ram (for the guys) and Shyam (for the gals), not unlike the ISKCON pundit boys who sing the maha mantra. Sure about that? I found copies of the beacon light online, and there is no such reference in it. Rather, to the opposite, there is a report, that the persons mantra is selected according to their Ishta Devata, Also people are adviced to meditate for one hour, or if they don't experience Ananda, to just meditate long enough. There is no mention of the Ram mantra or the Shyam mantra there. On which page would that be? It was only later in 1957 that MMY started using the five bijas and created the sixteen variants bijas to include the Saraswati bija which he got from SBS. Again, where do you get this from? Can you name a source? In 1957 Maharishi was still in India, and AFAIK there was no other uniform method of selection there. According to MMY, the Shankaracharya tradition is the custodian of the bija mantras. This makes sense because the sixteen bijas are enumerated in the Sound Arya Lahari, compiled by the Adi Shankara, the main scripture of the Sri Vidya sect. Go figure. A yoga teacher can use any seed sounds they want toin spiritual practice, even make up new ones, as long as they are given out in a ritual initiation. Otherwise, they are just simple phonemes or quasi-phonemes with no apparent meaning. However, most Indians, and thus most TMers, only use bijas in a short sentence, such as with the word 'namah' at the end. You get one single bija mantra in TM and then you get the more advanced technique with the added words. So, you get the seed sound and then the fertilizer; you water the root and enjoy the fruit. All you have to do is start the mantra and then just baby sit your bija and watch it grow. It's that simple! On 10/10/2013 9:41 AM, Michael Laurenson wrote: Hi Richard, I taught TM in the early 70s and been reading FFL posts for awhile. I've read that shyam, shyama are related to Krishna. Are these still considered Saraswati mantras? Warm regards, Michael
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy
Bingo! From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy On the slavery issue I've always wondered how one could say: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and then not automatically ban slavery. I'm guessing that the shyster lawyers of the day argued something along the lines that the Declaration set out the rights of *citizens* of the republic. As slaves were property and not citizens in the full sense the words didn't apply in their case; just as a foreigner couldn't be President. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Ahem Michael, slavery was a *states right* issue. It was written into the constitution that there would be certain states that would allow slavery, the *slave states*. Georgia was the one slave state that didn't want the issue in the constitution but Massachusetts would not ratify it without it being included. So, Georgia gave in. Boston Massachusetts was the home port for the slave industry. Most American slave ships sailed from Boston. Slavery could never had been stricken had the slave states not seceded because it would have taken a constitutional amendment to remove it and there weren't enough votes to ratify such an amendment. Only after the War of Northern Aggression and the South was *subjugated* could such an amendment be ratified by state legislatures, comprised of many former slaves, promised *40 acres and a mule* for their votes by, wait a minute Republicans, carpet baggers and scalawags. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy Here is a damn good answer to that question:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24396390 On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:51 PM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: That would be a pretty hard economic bonus to give up. Can you imagine the profit margins from slavery? Capitalism constantly drives the wedge between morality and economics, between community and making money. The social question is: How much can a person detest themselves, or distract themselves, and still exploit others, purely to make a fortune? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I recall that someone posted here a time or two the idea that the Confederate States seceded over the issue of states rights - as a citizen of the original seceding state, South Carolina, I have disagreed with that and for anyone who cares to read it, here is one of the historical documents that show the Confederate States were actually invoking their constitutional rights as slave holding states, rights identified by Congress and set forth in the US Constitution. It is clear from reading the entire document that the issue, the only issue was the right to practice slavery. Pure and simple. The document is called: Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy
BTW , Thomas Jefferson, the author of those famous words, was a slave owner. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy Bingo! From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy On the slavery issue I've always wondered how one could say: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and then not automatically ban slavery. I'm guessing that the shyster lawyers of the day argued something along the lines that the Declaration set out the rights of *citizens* of the republic. As slaves were property and not citizens in the full sense the words didn't apply in their case; just as a foreigner couldn't be President. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Ahem Michael, slavery was a *states right* issue. It was written into the constitution that there would be certain states that would allow slavery, the *slave states*. Georgia was the one slave state that didn't want the issue in the constitution but Massachusetts would not ratify it without it being included. So, Georgia gave in. Boston Massachusetts was the home port for the slave industry. Most American slave ships sailed from Boston. Slavery could never had been stricken had the slave states not seceded because it would have taken a constitutional amendment to remove it and there weren't enough votes to ratify such an amendment. Only after the War of Northern Aggression and the South was *subjugated* could such an amendment be ratified by state legislatures, comprised of many former slaves, promised *40 acres and a mule* for their votes by, wait a minute Republicans, carpet baggers and scalawags. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy Here is a damn good answer to that question:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24396390 On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:51 PM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: That would be a pretty hard economic bonus to give up. Can you imagine the profit margins from slavery? Capitalism constantly drives the wedge between morality and economics, between community and making money. The social question is: How much can a person detest themselves, or distract themselves, and still exploit others, purely to make a fortune? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I recall that someone posted here a time or two the idea that the Confederate States seceded over the issue of states rights - as a citizen of the original seceding state, South Carolina, I have disagreed with that and for anyone who cares to read it, here is one of the historical documents that show the Confederate States were actually invoking their constitutional rights as slave holding states, rights identified by Congress and set forth in the US Constitution. It is clear from reading the entire document that the issue, the only issue was the right to practice slavery. Pure and simple. The document is called: Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy
so a hypocrite much like Marshy - and by the way - read the articles of secession - On Fri, 10/11/13, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 10:03 PM BTW , Thomas Jefferson, the author of those famous words, was a slave owner. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy Bingo! From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy On the slavery issue I've always wondered how one could say: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and then not automatically ban slavery. I'm guessing that the shyster lawyers of the day argued something along the lines that the Declaration set out the rights of *citizens* of the republic. As slaves were property and not citizens in the full sense the words didn't apply in their case; just as a foreigner couldn't be President. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Ahem Michael, slavery was a *states right* issue. It was written into the constitution that there would be certain states that would allow slavery, the *slave states*. Georgia was the one slave state that didn't want the issue in the constitution but Massachusetts would not ratify it without it being included. So, Georgia gave in. Boston Massachusetts was the home port for the slave industry. Most American slave ships sailed from Boston. Slavery could never had been stricken had the slave states not seceded because it would have taken a constitutional amendment to remove it and there weren't enough votes to ratify such an amendment. Only after the War of Northern Aggression and the South was *subjugated* could such an amendment be ratified by state legislatures, comprised of many former slaves, promised *40 acres and a mule* for their votes by, wait a minute Republicans, carpet baggers and scalawags. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Correction on the Confederacy Here is a damn good answer to that question:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24396390 On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:51 PM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: That would be a pretty hard economic bonus to give up. Can you imagine the profit margins from slavery? Capitalism constantly drives the wedge between morality and economics, between community and making money. The social question is: How much can a person detest themselves, or distract themselves, and still exploit others, purely to make a fortune? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I recall that someone posted here a time or two the idea that the Confederate States seceded over the issue of states rights - as a citizen of the original seceding state, South Carolina, I have disagreed with that and for anyone who cares to read it, here is one of the historical documents that show the Confederate States were actually invoking their constitutional rights as slave holding states, rights identified by Congress and set forth in the US Constitution. It is clear from reading the entire document that the issue, the only issue was the right to practice slavery. Pure and simple. The document is called: Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp
[FairfieldLife] Nazi science
Nazi Germany led the first public anti-smoking campaign in modern history. The Nazi anti-tobacco campaign included banning smoking in trams, buses and city trains, and raising the tobacco tax. The National Socialists also imposed restrictions on tobacco advertising and smoking in public spaces, and regulated restaurants. The term passive smoking (Passivrauchen) was first coined in Nazi Germany. In 1941, tobacco smoking in trams was outlawed in sixty German cities. Smoking was also outlawed in bomb shelters; however, some shelters had separate rooms for smoking. The next step in the anti-tobacco campaign came in July 1943, when public smoking for persons under the age of 18 was outlawed. In the next year, smoking in buses and city trains was made illegal, on the personal initiative of Hitler, who feared female ticket takers might be the victims of passive smoking. Restrictions were imposed on the advertisement of tobacco products. Advertisements trying to depict smoking as harmless or as an expression of masculinity were banned. Ridiculing anti-tobacco activists was also outlawed. I guess Penn Teller would have got into trouble : - http://tinyurl.com/pxedcvp http://tinyurl.com/pxedcvp
[FairfieldLife] RE: Shamans and Don Juan Matus
I don't wish to be the bearer of bad news but if Carlos Castaneda is a hero of yours you might want to watch this BBC documentary What happens when anthropology goes bad? The last in this series of great yarns from the world of anthropology is a story of sex, drugs and a long-lost body in the desert. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXl95ZaYe3Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXl95ZaYe3Q ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: They don't call Native Americans Indians for nothing, since they all came from Asia in the first place. Go figure. According to what I've read, a recent study of a 40,000 year old skeleton from China showed that early modern humans present in the Beijing area 40,000 y ago were related to the ancestors of many present-day Asians as well as Native Americans. So, what is a shaman anyway? A shaman is anybody who contacts a spirit world while in an altered state of consciousness. The idea is based on the notion that the visible world is of the senses is pervaded by invisible forces or spirits which affect the lives of living people. Shamans can reach altered states of consciousness in order to encounter and interact with the spirit world and channel transcendental energies. For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have heart, on any path that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel—looking, looking, breathlessly. - Don Juan Matus Only known photography of Don Juan Matus:
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Sat 12-Oct-13 00:15:04 UTC
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/05/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/12/13 00:00:00 564 messages as of (UTC) 10/11/13 16:14:25 59 Richard J. Williams 56 Share Long 53 Bhairitu 50 s3raphita 38 awoelflebater 36 turquoiseb 31 doctordumbass 31 Michael Jackson 30 dhamiltony2k5 26 iranitea 24 jr_esq 24 authfriend 14 cardemaister 11 judy stein 9 merudanda 8 j_alexander_stanley 8 emptybill 8 Richard Williams 8 Mike Dixon 5 Ann Woelfle Bater 4 feste37 4 bobpriced 4 Jason 3 punditster 3 Rick Archer 3 Dick Mays 2 sharelong60 2 nablusoss1008 2 ediblecity 2 anartaxius 1 yifuxero 1 wayback71 1 srijau 1 rajawilliamsmith 1 obbajeeba 1 Peter Sutphen Posters: 36 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] ATT: Bharitu
Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult (Reuters) - Switzerland will hold a vote on whether to introduce a basic income for all adults, in a further sign of growing public activism over pay inequality since the financial crisis. A grassroots committee is calling for all adults in Switzerland to receive an unconditional income of 2,500 Swiss francs ($2,800) per month from the state, with the aim of providing a financial safety net for the population. Organizers submitted more than the 100,000 signatures needed to call a referendum on Friday and tipped a truckload of 8 million five-rappen coins outside the parliament building in Berne, one for each person living in Switzerland. Under Swiss law, citizens can organize popular initiatives that allow the channeling of public anger into direct political action. The country usually holds several referenda a year. In March, Swiss voters backed some of the world's strictest controls on executive pay, forcing public companies to give shareholders a binding vote on compensation. A separate proposal to limit monthly executive pay to no more than what the company's lowest-paid staff earn in a year, the so-called 1:12 initiative, faces a popular vote on November 24. The initiative's organizing committee said the basic income could partly be financed through money from social insurance systems in Switzerland. The timing of the vote has yet to be announced, pending official guidance from the government. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/04/us-swiss-pay-idUSBRE9930O620131004
[FairfieldLife] Another Of My Usual
For I ran a tea house: Now this is an example of the joy and exuberance of activity. That orangutan is CRAZY!! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535amp;set=vb.1042328132amp;type=2amp;theater
[FairfieldLife] RE: Another Of My Usual
I sent the elephant/dog video to my older daughter. She loved it. She'll love this one too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: For I ran a tea house: Now this is an example of the joy and exuberance of activity. That orangutan is CRAZY!! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535amp;set=vb.1042328132amp;type=2amp;theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535set=vb.1042328132type=2theater
RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
What cracked me up about all this was that the article Share apparently only read the title of was by Daniel Goleman, author of Emotional Intelligence she considers a classic. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Second try. What I found most amusing about this conversation was that the article Share only apparently read the title of was by Daniel Goleman. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
O.K. It works. Emily may not post often. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Second try. What I found most amusing about this conversation was that the article Share only apparently read the title of was by Daniel Goleman. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Another Of My Usual
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: I sent the elephant/dog video to my older daughter. She loved it. She'll love this one too. Hey Em, you're still close by. I see it takes the love of animals to bring you out in the open. I'll remember that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: For I ran a tea house: Now this is an example of the joy and exuberance of activity. That orangutan is CRAZY!! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535amp;set=vb.1042328132amp;type=2amp;theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535set=vb.1042328132type=2theater
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Another Of My Usual
Ann - yes, I've got a lot going on but sometimes I need a little comedic relief. Thanks for posting that equestrian video also; I enjoyed that perspective. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: I sent the elephant/dog video to my older daughter. She loved it. She'll love this one too. Hey Em, you're still close by. I see it takes the love of animals to bring you out in the open. I'll remember that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: For I ran a tea house: Now this is an example of the joy and exuberance of activity. That orangutan is CRAZY!! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535amp;set=vb.1042328132amp;type=2amp;theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535set=vb.1042328132type=2theater
