[FairfieldLife] RE: Empathy versus cruelty
You should have taken advantage of the confusion and lifted yourself a new TV. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Today I was walking past a department store when a sudden commotion caught my attention. A young man was being frogmarched to a waiting police car by two constables - obviously he was a shoplifter who hadn't been as careful as he should have been. But what appalled me was that everyone around me - fellow pedestrians, people in coffee shops, those waiting at the bus stop - were almost universally smiling and exchanging knowing glances. I've noticed that reaction countless times in similar situations. But me: I just felt depressed. Here was a youth, perhaps on his way to prison. His mum and dad and sisters, his other relatives and his friends would be shocked and saddened by the news of his arrest. What is there to smile about for God's sake? It's a reaction I've noticed about other misfortunes. People see drug addicts in the final stages of degradation and judge these unfortunates as being losers. I see the same people and wonder what sexual or physical abuse they suffered as children - or maybe as adults they encountered some other misfortune, perhaps having to see a loved one die slowly and painfully of cancer - and think to myself how lucky I am that I have never had to cope with such trauma. So is Seraphita a saint? Not bloody likely. I am as selfish, as self-centred, as narrowly concerned with my own well-being as anyone. The difference seems to be an ability to enter imaginatively into the suffering of others and appreciate what a raw deal they had. Of course, some shop-lifters and drug addicts are complete saddos and probably need a kick up the arse and told to get a grip. But many will have just been unlucky - and luck plays a dominant role in all our lives. Imagination is often dismissed as idle fancy but really it is a faculty in which we grasp real aspects of the world - just like perception and reason. But perhaps another cause for people to enjoy the misfortunes of others - complete strangers at that - is that they are unhappy (The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. - Thoreau) and seeing someone worse off than themselves gives them a boost. They suddenly see that their own lives could be even more miserable so for a brief moment they can feel complacently self-satisfied. Alas - according to Nietzsche - pity is just cruelty disguised. There's a lot to be said for that view - just observe carefully how your friends and colleagues savour reports of disasters on the latest news bulletins while convincing themselves how compassionate they are. So what can we conclude? That Seraphita is a hypocrite! Heads you win; tails I lose.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
You have a fine store of pertinent cartoons. I had a look and found this one: http://zenpencils.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day... You have a fine store of pertinent cartoons... Thanks, I try to amuse. :-) To be honest, although I do have a file in which I store fun quotes and URLs for possible future use, most of the time when I want to add a little spice to a post here I just go to Google Images and search for the subject being discussed, adding the keyword funny to the search string. It is rare that I *don't* find something appropriate. For example, when searching for proof of god + funny just now I found these gems:
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
Funniest cartoon I've seen in a while. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day... I love the people have shifted the idea of what god is when earlier interpretations turn out to be too easily disposed of. I can see why theology never satisfactorily answered any questions! But I am impressed with the energy people put in to weaving their way past the need for evidence into some sort of logical cul de sac of him being unfathomable. God has always been anthropomorphism, mankind's vanity and paranoia writ large. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can conceive of Him not existing.: So the Him you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an image that you've constructed in your imagination based on your Sunday School lessons, so is essentially an *idol* - a false god. It is good news that you see that idols can't exist. The more idols you dismiss the closer you come to the real God that lies beyond your or anyone else's conceptions. The 14th-century theologian Meister Eckhart made the same point: The more they curse God the more they praise Him! Re Seems reasonable to me that God would have a strong moral sense, stronger than mine even, and that he wouldn't like to see people suffer.: The Godhead doesn't have a strong moral sense. It is the crassest anthropomorphism to imagine otherwise. (It's another category error!) But we humans have a moral sense (The soul is naturally Christian - Tertullian, third century) so we should encourage that moral sense to flourish in the same way that a gardener encourages a flower to bloom and emit its fragrance.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
I don't know why you believe I am interested in what you say. You produce little original content here. Mostly you are Judy-lite, her snide second-in-disdain for those Judy needs to attack . You're wasting my time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention I don't know why you believe I am interested in what you say. You produce little original content here. Mostly you are Judy-lite, her snide second-in-disdain for those Judy needs to attack . You're wasting my time. As with their mutual cult leader Robin, I honestly think that the baseline issue here is narcissism. None of them can even *conceive* of people not being interested in the things they say, because the stuff going on in their heads is so fascinating to *them*. Thus they imagine that people are reading every word of their posts with the same diligence they read every word of the posts of the people they stalk, and if someone fails to pay proper attention to them, they rely on the Go back and read what I wrote epithet, AS IF THERE WAS ANY NEED TO. Who fucking CARES what any of them think?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
Dear oh-so-good friend emptyliar. Don't send messages to my wife. Stay off her Facebook page. Then I won't care about your antics.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
I knew there was a trick to it. I remember reading a list of things to do when using google to add or subtract particular things, forgot it all though. ...much fun later: Careful when commissioning those yagyas! http://www.thebenevolentforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/god-answers-prayers-like-the-weather.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: He who laughs last didn't get it. - Helen Giangregorio On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Don't find fault. Find a remedy. - Henry Ford On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The best place to find a helping hand is at the end of your own arm. - Swedish proverb On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: The wise man has long ears and a short tongue. - Anonymous On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Don't mess with old men, they didn't get old by being stupid. - Will Rogers On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Anyone can fail many times, but you aren't a failure until you begin to blame somebody else. - John Burroughs On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Doing nothing is hard to do - you never know when you're finished. - Leslie Nielsen On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse. - Will Rogers On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Never miss a good chance to shut up. - Will Rogers On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:27 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: That's it, Richard! I'm in love with Will Rogers. Is he still alive? (-: Long dead, Share: On August 15, 1935, Rogers was on a flight to Asia with the famous pilot Wiley Post when the craft developed engine troubles and crashed near Point Barrow, Alaskahttp://www.history.com/topics/alaska. The crash killed both men. Rogers was only 55. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:46 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance. - Will Rogers On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Share Long sharelong60@...wrote: Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-: PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even every atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir punditster@...wrote: Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is moving. - Will Rogers On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, authfriend@... wrote: So what was the good catch you said I made, Share? I don't believe you've responded to that question. Keep 'em coming Richard and thank you...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
As Barry knows, there is no Robin cult for Robin to be a leader of, nor for there to be any members of. That's a fairytale Barry dreamed up because he has no legitimate criticisms. And obviously, certain people are interested in what I have to say (including Barry, despite his repeated lies that he never reads my posts), whether they agree or disagree, whether they absorb what I've said or not. But of course it would never occur to me to assume that everyone reads my posts, nor does it bother me if they don't. Still more obviously, if I tell someone to go back and read what I wrote because they've misconstrued what I've said, it's because they've read a post of mine and been interested enough to respond to it. Barry's at a point now where he's so befuddled he is unable to come up with lies that make sense even on their own terms. BTW, emptybill was addressing Ann, not me. I don't imagine she cares much whether he cares what she says. She likes to express herself, as do I, as do most here, including Barry. And both of us produce original content, including in our comments on what others have said. We just aren't obsessed with it; we feel no need to show off by producing it. So emptybill's and Barry's preoccupation with it, as if it were some kind of fault not to produce it, affects us not at all. It's one of Barry's most useless criticisms if his aim is to make us feel inadequate. I don't know why you believe I am interested in what you say. You produce little original content here. Mostly you are Judy-lite, her snide second-in-disdain for those Judy needs to attack . You're wasting my time. As with their mutual cult leader Robin, I honestly think that the baseline issue here is narcissism. None of them can even *conceive* of people not being interested in the things they say, because the stuff going on in their heads is so fascinating to *them*. Thus they imagine that people are reading every word of their posts with the same diligence they read every word of the posts of the people they stalk, and if someone fails to pay proper attention to them, they rely on the Go back and read what I wrote epithet, AS IF THERE WAS ANY NEED TO. Who fucking CARES what any of them think?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
Salyavin, have you always had this much trouble retaining factual information? The unfathomable concept of God dates back to before Aristotle and has remained the mainstream concept of Western philosophical theism ever since. I told you that; Seraphita did too. So did philosopher of religion Edward Feser in that quote I posted. It's only very recently that more anthropomorphic concepts like theistic personalism have emerged. IOW, you have it precisely backward. (Of course, you can go WAY back to pagan antiquity, pre-500 BCE or so, to find anthropomorphic concepts--Zeus and so on. But that isn't when the shift you're claiming to unfathomable took place, is it?) I love the people have shifted the idea of what god is when earlier interpretations turn out to be too easily disposed of. I can see why theology never satisfactorily answered any questions! But I am impressed with the energy people put in to weaving their way past the need for evidence into some sort of logical cul de sac of him being unfathomable. God has always been anthropomorphism, mankind's vanity and paranoia writ large. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can conceive of Him not existing.: So the Him you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an image that you've constructed in your imagination based on your Sunday School lessons, so is essentially an *idol* - a false god. It is good news that you see that idols can't exist. The more idols you dismiss the closer you come to the real God that lies beyond your or anyone else's conceptions. The 14th-century theologian Meister Eckhart made the same point: The more they curse God the more they praise Him! Re Seems reasonable to me that God would have a strong moral sense, stronger than mine even, and that he wouldn't like to see people suffer.: The Godhead doesn't have a strong moral sense. It is the crassest anthropomorphism to imagine otherwise. (It's another category error!) But we humans have a moral sense (The soul is naturally Christian - Tertullian, third century) so we should encourage that moral sense to flourish in the same way that a gardener encourages a flower to bloom and emit its fragrance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
I was talking about the song And as long as you are quoting the Yoga Sutras: The “pain” Patanjali talks about in 2:16, “Pain that has not yet come is avoidable.” is clarified in the sutra that immediately follows it, 2:17: “The cause of that avoidable pain is the union of the Seer (Purusha) and seen (Prakriti).” From this we understand how our world is experienced and how we always identify ourselves with what is seen. Just as those who have a unbending need to always see TM as the answer to everything in life, when they look upon the seen, they will experience an illusion, an attachment of TM is the answer! Thus continuing to bind themselves to illusion, therefore pain, and continue further experiences upon the wheel of karma. Now how about that? I used the yoga sutras to smash all the TB'ers illusions!! No, I think it was the Indian Patanjali who wrote the Yoga Sutras: What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come. - Yoga Sutra II.16
[FairfieldLife] RE: Empathy versus cruelty
S3raphita , I feel you are being quite saintly in taking notice of the circumstance. Yep, it is just another sign of bad upbringing and the failure of our schools and society. Including fault of all those collectively standing around smirking who without initiative themselves or had the opportunity in their own lives to pursue the proper upbringing of virtue of spiritual life themselves and all those who who may know better will themselves not going out even on a limb to help anyone other than themselves in their own material world of widget worth. I sense saintly virtue in you that you would even notice the collective failure in this incident in this poor unlucky youth. The shoplifter is just another index showing the lack in our meissner-like collective transmission of collective consciousness of virtue in life. You are a teacher of the absolute wisdom in life are you not? A transmitter of spiritual virtue? It makes sense that you are sensitive to what was in that public scene. It is now the age of science and it is neigh time they put quiet-time meditation in to the training of all our children in their schools, if their families can not provide it for their own children if not just to save us all. To save us all from this vileness otherwise there is a place for public education in these sound values of life. All it takes is some quiet-time. It pisses me off too to watch the smirking jerks as you point to, like some even here who would actually stand in the way and fight what is such evident science and get in the way of the larger transmission of virtue in life. Yep, all those smirking jerks all watching the theatre of this youth being taken off should all be sending checks of donation as a matter of character to the David Lynch Foundation to help in the trenches in the fight against all that is vile in life. The teaching of and learning of the transcendental meditative state is the inalienable right to be guaranteed of every human being born in to this life. That is the first right that needs to be first guaranteed to every child growing up. Teaching of effective transcending meditation in all our schools is now the scientific standard of a proper education and should be all our public's policy regardless. I commend you for bringing this sad story to our attention here at FFL. You are a saint in reaching for the transformation that awareness can bring. It would be cruelty to know the great virtue of life and not say anything or do anything about this situation. Thanks for bringing this to our attention here. It will likelymake us all better for it in pursuing our spiritual practices as we go about our daily lives. Thanks, you are a saint. -Buck s3raphita writes: Today I was walking past a department store when a sudden commotion caught my attention. A young man was being frogmarched to a waiting police car by two constables - obviously he was a shoplifter who hadn't been as careful as he should have been. But what appalled me was that everyone around me - fellow pedestrians, people in coffee shops, those waiting at the bus stop - were almost universally smiling and exchanging knowing glances. I've noticed that reaction countless times in similar situations. But me: I just felt depressed. Here was a youth, perhaps on his way to prison. His mum and dad and sisters, his other relatives and his friends would be shocked and saddened by the news of his arrest. What is there to smile about for God's sake? It's a reaction I've noticed about other misfortunes. People see drug addicts in the final stages of degradation and judge these unfortunates as being losers. I see the same people and wonder what sexual or physical abuse they suffered as children - or maybe as adults they encountered some other misfortune, perhaps having to see a loved one die slowly and painfully of cancer - and think to myself how lucky I am that I have never had to cope with such trauma. So is Seraphita a saint? Not bloody likely. I am as selfish, as self-centred, as narrowly concerned with my own well-being as anyone. The difference seems to be an ability to enter imaginatively into the suffering of others and appreciate what a raw deal they had. Of course, some shop-lifters and drug addicts are complete saddos and probably need a kick up the arse and told to get a grip. But many will have just been unlucky - and luck plays a dominant role in all our lives. Imagination is often dismissed as idle fancy but really it is a faculty in which we grasp real aspects of the world - just like perception and reason. But perhaps another cause for people to enjoy the misfortunes of others - complete strangers at that - is that they are unhappy (The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. - Thoreau) and seeing someone worse off than themselves gives them a boost. They suddenly see that their own lives could be even more miserable so for a brief moment they can feel
[FairfieldLife] Vedic Deco
Who knew? The second biggest treasure-trove of Art Deco architecture is in India: http://www.messynessychic.com/2014/02/19/miami-of-india-the-forgotten-capital-of-art-deco/ http://www.messynessychic.com/2014/02/19/miami-of-india-the-forgotten-capital-of-art-deco/
[FairfieldLife] Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BUT4e9HQfg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BUT4e9HQfg The Smart House: Tour of a Small but Perfect Maharishi Vastu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcpTxUW_jp0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcpTxUW_jp0
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: CLASSICAL THEISM
On 2/18/2014 11:08 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *classical theism does not conceive of God as a being, no matter how ultimate, but rather Beingness Itself.* Beingness: It's a noun - the state of being or existence itself; the ultimate reality transcendental to . But, that doesn't tells us much about the polytheism in India, but it tells us a lot about Plato and Aristotle. In Advaita Vedanta, the Being is what everything comes from but it is separate from the creation. In Indian Vishnu monotheism, Brahman is the Transcendental Person. */The main problem we should be discussing is how the individual relates to the Being - what karma is, and what we do back./*
[FairfieldLife] UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-w5H9rnZI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-w5H9rnZI
[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: I don't know why you believe I am interested in what you say. You produce little original content here. Mostly you are Judy-lite, her snide second-in-disdain for those Judy needs to attack . You're wasting my time. And you're wasting mine with your tattling and idiotic message about Facebook and your wife. You can block Ravi if you think he is harassing her or you can got the FB administrators or you can shut up and stop making such a big deal out of absolutely nothing. For such an old, crotchety guy you are such a baby and a really cantankerous one at that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: As Barry knows, there is no Robin cult for Robin to be a leader of, nor for there to be any members of. That's a fairytale Barry dreamed up because he has no legitimate criticisms. And obviously, certain people are interested in what I have to say (including Barry, despite his repeated lies that he never reads my posts), whether they agree or disagree, whether they absorb what I've said or not. But of course it would never occur to me to assume that everyone reads my posts, nor does it bother me if they don't. Still more obviously, if I tell someone to go back and read what I wrote because they've misconstrued what I've said, it's because they've read a post of mine and been interested enough to respond to it. Barry's at a point now where he's so befuddled he is unable to come up with lies that make sense even on their own terms. BTW, emptybill was addressing Ann, not me. I don't imagine she cares much whether he cares what she says. She likes to express herself, as do I, as do most here, including Barry. And both of us produce original content, including in our comments on what others have said. We just aren't obsessed with it; we feel no need to show off by producing it. So emptybill's and Barry's preoccupation with it, as if it were some kind of fault not to produce it, affects us not at all. It's one of Barry's most useless criticisms if his aim is to make us feel inadequate. Barry is simply a bullying asshole who thinks he is above and beyond the foibles of mere mortals. He is a warmonger and an angry old fart. Empty is empty except for the evident parchment-thin emotion that he sometimes exhibits when angry - which seems to be most of the time. He's the guy you pass in the street muttering, young whippersnappers and looking really crotchety as he shuffles along. So do I care what either of these bums thinks? Not yesterday and not today, so far. I don't know why you believe I am interested in what you say. You produce little original content here. Mostly you are Judy-lite, her snide second-in-disdain for those Judy needs to attack . You're wasting my time. As with their mutual cult leader Robin, I honestly think that the baseline issue here is narcissism. None of them can even *conceive* of people not being interested in the things they say, because the stuff going on in their heads is so fascinating to *them*. Thus they imagine that people are reading every word of their posts with the same diligence they read every word of the posts of the people they stalk, and if someone fails to pay proper attention to them, they rely on the Go back and read what I wrote epithet, AS IF THERE WAS ANY NEED TO. Who fucking CARES what any of them think?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
On 2/18/2014 11:11 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Moderators - Alex, Rick - please delete this thread and reprimand/kick this psychotic liar off the list please. I had this exact same thought. I would like to see the thread and to see the context of this supposed stalking comment. It looks like somebody is monitoring all these messages! I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there are dozens of lurkers on this forum reading our every word. But, it's not the lurkers that are the problem - it's the stalkers that are the problem - the informants who try to trick us into reacting to parodies and try to take us down a rabbit-hole and try to turn every thread into an argument about how many gods can fit on the end of a needle or what kind of shampoo we use on our hair. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Vedic Deco
My *favorite* archetectural style! I've had a project in the back of my mind, to photogragh a number of buildings in San Francisco and San Jose, built in the deco style. Thanks for sharing this.
[FairfieldLife] RE: An amazing rock
I know :-)...No, it is very much a plain front yard, with struggling grass (no sprinklers due to drought), or rain. The cool and imaginative Creator hasn't got his feet wet, yet, for the front yard.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
Agreed. And if word comes down from upon high that I have to waste my time deleting this entire thread, emptybill is getting the boot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: I don't know why you believe I am interested in what you say. You produce little original content here. Mostly you are Judy-lite, her snide second-in-disdain for those Judy needs to attack . You're wasting my time. And you're wasting mine with your tattling and idiotic message about Facebook and your wife. You can block Ravi if you think he is harassing her or you can got the FB administrators or you can shut up and stop making such a big deal out of absolutely nothing. For such an old, crotchety guy you are such a baby and a really cantankerous one at that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Vedic Deco
Glad to have been of service. I'm more of an Art Nouveau (Belle Epoque) fan myself, but sadly there are fewer examples of architecture of this style still standing. Built earlier, I guess, and sadly torn down to make way for the new, even in Paris. There are more examples of Art Nouveau houses in Brussels than in all of France. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Vedic Deco My *favorite* archetectural style! I've had a project in the back of my mind, to photogragh a number of buildings in San Francisco and San Jose, built in the deco style. Thanks for sharing this.
[FairfieldLife] Good news for Pushing Daisies fans
Not off topic because one of our former FFL members won a Primetime Emmy for editing this wonderful and quirky seles... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/18/pushing-daisies-musical_n_4808045.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/18/pushing-daisies-musical_n_4808045.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
I think you'll find it's a squadron of fighter planes following a refuelling tanker. When performing this manouvre they have their bright landing lights on. If you pause the video every few seconds you can see that they have moved.
[FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
Congratulations with the most silly rationalization in a long while :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
On 2/19/2014 7:09 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: You're wasting my time. Yes, I think that's what a discussion board is supposed to do, but it's not a total waste of time because some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. The problem isn't somebody posting a message or too many messages - the problem is nobody is posting any messages! Some days it's like trying to communicate with deaf-mutes around here. I mean, what are you guys doing out there - trying to have a life or something? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
Nice places, I'd have either of them. But what drives me nuts is the crap about sleeping better, being healthier and feeling protected. Or making better decisions in life and business. It's such a load of bull. I lived in a SV home for a summer and didn't sleep any better than usual, didn't have any bright ideas (no more than usual anyway) It was business as usual except I had to walk further to get to the garden. But I guess if they dropped the mood making crap they wouldn't be able to cream some money off for the SV license.
[FairfieldLife] RE: An amazing rock [1 Attachment]
Very interesting rock. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I know :-)...No, it is very much a plain front yard, with struggling grass (no sprinklers due to drought), or rain. The cool and imaginative Creator hasn't got his feet wet, yet, for the front yard.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
You forgot better sex.
[FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
Always glad to be of service Nabby. I remember during the first gulf war that a UFO flap of giant triangles covered in bright lights were seen all over Europe. Got the alien TB freaks really excited. I knew someone who saw one and he swore on his life that he wasn't lying. I said I would investigate but drew a blank because, unbeknown to everyone, the government were using our airforce bases for American planes to fly to Iraq, accompanied by their tanker escort. It all came out in the official secrets act recently, people reported the UFO's to the police but the explanation never got released to protect national security and operational interests. So it's either that or a giant alien mother ship with lights that move about on its hull, flew close enough to earth to pass through the atmosphere and have a good look but without alerting the authorities of any country, who would be most interested to be honest. Probably blow it out of the sky before it got anywhere important actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Congratulations with the most silly rationalization in a long while :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
You'll have to forgive me, but I find the idea of someone having better sex as the result of buying a Maharishi Vastu house even more ludicrous than the idea of someone actually levitating as a result of the Maharishi TM-Sidhis. But thanks for the best laugh of the day. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home You forgot better sex.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
How do you know? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: You forgot better sex. How do you know?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
Yeah, but within the context of those trapped in the belief system, you've got a good line 'Hey, I have a Vastu house. You should see the bedroom, it's fabulous, and the headboard is perfectly aligned with true East! Complete support of Natural Law!' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: You'll have to forgive me, but I find the idea of someone having better sex as the result of buying a Maharishi Vastu house even more ludicrous than the idea of someone actually levitating as a result of the Maharishi TM-Sidhis. But thanks for the best laugh of the day. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home You forgot better sex.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
Always glad to be of service Turq :-) People have better sex in Maharishi Vastu homes because that's what they privately report - it will be interesting when this is documented with scientific research some time in the future.
[FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
Right, and with the new advanced military technology they are able to refill MORE than 14 planes simultaneously ! Please make sure no one is putting something in your afternoon tea :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
Right, and now with the new, advanced technology the US Air Force is able to refill MORE than 14 planes simultaneously - they do that all the time these days, particulary above Colombia. Do check that no one is putting something in your afternoon-tea :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
That's because you weren't taking amrit, having jyotish readings and yagyas done for you at the same time. Don't you know that TM makes you so weak and screwed up you have to have the whole ball of wax to be able to get out of bed and walk across the floor!?! On Wed, 2/19/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 3:54 PM Nice places, I'd have either of them. But what drives me nuts is the crap about sleeping better, being healthier and feeling protected. Or making better decisions in life and business. It's such a load of bull. I lived in a SV home for a summer and didn't sleep any better than usual, didn't have any bright ideas (no more than usual anyway) It was business as usual except I had to walk further to get to the garden. But I guess if they dropped the mood making crap they wouldn't be able to cream some money off for the SV license.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Agreed. And if word comes down from upon high that I have to waste my time deleting this entire thread, emptybill is getting the boot. Thank God for someone with a modicum of sense. Long rule Alex. Had any good Bananagram tournaments lately, BTW? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: I don't know why you believe I am interested in what you say. You produce little original content here. Mostly you are Judy-lite, her snide second-in-disdain for those Judy needs to attack . You're wasting my time. And you're wasting mine with your tattling and idiotic message about Facebook and your wife. You can block Ravi if you think he is harassing her or you can got the FB administrators or you can shut up and stop making such a big deal out of absolutely nothing. For such an old, crotchety guy you are such a baby and a really cantankerous one at that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
Back when I was a TM fanatic, I once asked my father what would he do if the TMO had a levitation demonstration and he actually saw people flying. (This is back when liar Marshy was still claiming flight above the taxis and a public demonstration was juust around the corner, at Kitty Hawk, NC no less) The Old Man who was irritated to begin with because I was distracting him from his WWII movie playing on cable tv took a long drag off his unfiltered Chesterfield King, squinted at me as he exhaled and exclaimed I'd know goddamn well there was a helicopter up there above the clouds with wires attached to that son of a bitch who claimed to be flyin', that's what I'd think! Same kind of deal here. On Wed, 2/19/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 4:43 PM Right, and now with the new, advanced technology the US Air Force is able to refill MORE than 14 planes simultaneously - they do that all the time these days, particulary above Colombia. Do check that no one is putting something in your afternoon-tea :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
And for those who eschew vastu, there's always feng shui (-: http://fengshui.about.com/od/love/qt/perfectbedroom.htm On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:14 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, but within the context of those trapped in the belief system, you've got a good line 'Hey, I have a Vastu house. You should see the bedroom, it's fabulous, and the headboard is perfectly aligned with true East! Complete support of Natural Law!' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: You'll have to forgive me, but I find the idea of someone having better sex as the result of buying a Maharishi Vastu house even more ludicrous than the idea of someone actually levitating as a result of the Maharishi TM-Sidhis. But thanks for the best laugh of the day. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home You forgot better sex.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nice places, I'd have either of them. But what drives me nuts is the crap about sleeping better, being healthier and feeling protected. Or making better decisions in life and business. It's such a load of bull. I lived in a SV home for a summer and didn't sleep any better than usual, didn't have any bright ideas (no more than usual anyway) It was business as usual except I had to walk further to get to the garden. But I guess if they dropped the mood making crap they wouldn't be able to cream some money off for the SV license. A nice house is a nice house. Plenty of natural light, space that doesn't cramp, natural building materials - these are all things that are no-brainers for a pleasant environment. Lots of expensive and not so expensive houses incorporate these features so I can't see spending even more money for someone to tell you and charge for things that are already desirable by many people. You'll sleep better if you aren't next to a rail line and your outlook on life might improve if you don't live in a dark hovel but do we need Vastu to tell us this?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
Salyavin, I think atheists also anthropomorphize God! For example, when they say that if there was a God, he or she would be the human idea of benign and there wouldn't be such horrible events in the world. That's making a big assumption about the nature of God. On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:01 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I love the people have shifted the idea of what god is when earlier interpretations turn out to be too easily disposed of. I can see why theology never satisfactorily answered any questions! But I am impressed with the energy people put in to weaving their way past the need for evidence into some sort of logical cul de sac of him being unfathomable. God has always been anthropomorphism, mankind's vanity and paranoia writ large. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can conceive of Him not existing.: So the Him you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an image that you've constructed in your imagination based on your Sunday School lessons, so is essentially an *idol* - a false god. It is good news that you see that idols can't exist. The more idols you dismiss the closer you come to the real God that lies beyond your or anyone else's conceptions. The 14th-century theologian Meister Eckhart made the same point: The more they curse God the more they praise Him! Re Seems reasonable to me that God would have a strong moral sense, stronger than mine even, and that he wouldn't like to see people suffer.: The Godhead doesn't have a strong moral sense. It is the crassest anthropomorphism to imagine otherwise. (It's another category error!) But we humans have a moral sense (The soul is naturally Christian - Tertullian, third century) so we should encourage that moral sense to flourish in the same way that a gardener encourages a flower to bloom and emit its fragrance.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nice places, I'd have either of them. But what drives me nuts is the crap about sleeping better, being healthier and feeling protected. Or making better decisions in life and business. It's such a load of bull. I lived in a SV home for a summer and didn't sleep any better than usual, didn't have any bright ideas (no more than usual anyway) It was business as usual except I had to walk further to get to the garden. But I guess if they dropped the mood making crap they wouldn't be able to cream some money off for the SV license. A nice house is a nice house. Plenty of natural light, space that doesn't cramp, natural building materials - these are all things that are no-brainers for a pleasant environment. Lots of expensive and not so expensive houses incorporate these features so I can't see spending even more money for someone to tell you and charge for things that are already desirable by many people. You'll sleep better if you aren't next to a rail line and your outlook on life might improve if you don't live in a dark hovel but do we need Vastu to tell us this? LOL, some people do. The real TM TB's think that if it's vastu it's perfect, and they will live long and happy lives because of it. It was sold as the final solution, the missing piece of the jigsaw for those who had drunk all the other Kool-aid the TMO sells. In fact, non SV homes were suddenly making us ill and stopping us becoming enlightened! Treat your house like it's burning down said Marshy, and that very same day, ie ten years later, some were built in the UK to extremely underwhelming effect, and then they found out that the hill near Skem was delaying the sunrise by 2 minutes so anything they did wasn't full vastu anyway! So anyone who cared enough, and could afford it, has decamped to Rendlesham in Suffolk - Europe's first full vastu village. I would like one because I like the fact that the sun rises in front of the house on midsummers day and you can therefore measure equinoxes using the fenceposts. Something cool about that, like a link to the iron age or ancient Rome, which is probably what they used it for being farmers and therefore sun worshippers. Knowing when the seasons are about to change was pivotal in those days. And the reason the kitchen was on that side of the house was to keep the food in the coolest place. So there is some logic to it, just don't expect miracles
[FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
They aren't filling them at once, they are queueing in each others slipstream while they wait their turn. Like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Air_Force http://www.ibtimes.com/us-sale-f-16s-taiwan-more-likely-beijing-protests-699503 http://www.aviationspectator.com/resources/aircraft-profiles/ltv-a-7-corsair-ii-aircraft-profile Now stretch your imagination to them doing it at night with their lights on so they can see each other... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Right, and now with the new, advanced technology the US Air Force is able to refill MORE than 14 planes simultaneously - they do that all the time these days, particulary above Colombia. Do check that no one is putting something in your afternoon-tea :-)
[FairfieldLife] Indian music
For those who have time to watch, this is a masterful concert, tabla and bansuri http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3cz-a3n5wU
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Ultimate Techno Tracks
The History of House Music [image: Inline image 2] Swedish House Mafia and Benny Benassi Pump Up The Volume - 2001 Channel 4 documentary http://youtu.be/Y1HpY65cXDA Directed by Carl Hindmarch Part 1: Time To Jack Part 2: Can You Feel It Part 3: From Handbag To Hardcore Best House Techno Club Mix 2011 -2012 http://youtu.be/SxAvCWk0YXM House music is a genre of electronic dance music that originated in the American city of Chicago in the early 1980s. It was initially popularized circa 1984 in Chicago, but beginning in 1985, it fanned out to other major cities across North and South America, as well as Europe and later Australia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_music 'The Rough Guide to House Music' by Sean Bidder Rough Guides, 1999 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Pump Up the Volume [image: Inline image 1] Pump Up the Volume - MARRS (extended mix) http://youtu.be/KJ3uZNpH5dk Pump Up the Volume is a song and the only single by British recording act MARRS. Recorded and released in 1987, it was a number-one hit in many countries and is sometimes regarded as a significant milestone in the development of British house music and music sampling. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Get ready for a techno rave with the Professor DJ. It's time for some techo dance music at the Armadillo World Headquarters. It's time to get down and dirty and dancing naked. Let's move - if you aren't going to dance, why did you come to the party? [image: Inline image 1] Naked - Inside Treatment - The Official Techno Club Compilation Volume 2 http://youtu.be/Ch_4VY-5gdQ A good disc jockey entertains the audience with his extensive knowledge of music. Only an individual with great passion can become a fine DJ. It is not all about skills. A lot of people become good music players just because of their passion, and ability to make interesting moves with the music. Disc Jockey Steps to Become a DJ at a Club: http://www.stepbystep.com/steps-to-become-a-dj-at-a-club-25946/ On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: You can start a garage band - just hook up a Moog Synthesizer to your computer and you have a complete DAW. It's not complicated. [image: Inline image 1] [image: Inline image 2] First, we installed the free Audacity software on our computer. Then, we bought a microphone from the Shack. So, we hooked up our Yamaha keyboard with the synth. You can also get yourself an outboard unit like an Mbox or Motu that comes with Pro Tools. Always try to use audiophile-grade components and MIDI and XLR connections which deliver a signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) of 114dB. [image: Inline image 3] [image: Inline image 4] Daphne Oram - inventor of the first portable synthesizer http://www.mixmag.net/words/news/history-of-electronic-music-exhibition-opens-2013 Example of electronic music: *Give It Up* - The Goodmen - *Batacuda Refreshcante* - Platinum on Black Vol 1 Track 5 http://youtu.be/B6qzwSxhezk Notes: Audacity is a free and open-source digital audio editor that can run on Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, and Linux; it is particularly popular in the podcast community, and also has a large following among the visually impaired due to its keyboard interface. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacity_%28audio_editor%29 GarageBand is a software application for OS X and iOS that allows users to create music or podcasts. It is developed by Apple Inc. as a part of the iLife software package on OS X. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GarageBand A digital audio workstation (DAW) is an electronic system designed solely or primarily for recording, editing and playing back digital audio. DAWs were originally tape-less, microprocessor-based systems such as the Synclavier. Modern DAWs are software running on computers with audio interface hardware. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio_workstation On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Get ready for a techno tribal beat stomp! [image: Inline image 1] This tribal beat stomp with DJ Danny Tenaglia is legendary - a homage to the original Sound Factory on West 27th St in New York City. Picture a thousand improvisational dancers going wild on a dance floor getting sweaty and raw; in a huge dark warehouse with nothing but a big dance floor; an awesome sound system; a huge mirror ball; and a health juice bar. It just doesn't get any better than this - work it! Mix This Pussy - Danny Tenaglia Mix - 1994 http://youtu.be/4iNFfErYMLU [image: Inline image 2] On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Tribal Dance Night at the Techno Club It's techno DJ night at the Armadillo World Headquarters in Austin - three thousand hardcore techno fans crowd a city-club celebrating the re-birth of genuine techno. On Friday nights techno addicts
[FairfieldLife] RE: Indian music
Superb, very tuneful playing for tabla! I saw Zakir Hussain playing with John MacLaughlin in their band 'Remember Shakti', mesmerising percussion, great gig all round actually. I've got quite a few albums with Zakir on but my fave of his is 'Making Music', with MacLaughlin on guitar, Hariprasad Chaurasia the flautist and Jan Garbarek on sax. Very laid back and well worth a look. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: For those who have time to watch, this is a masterful concert, tabla and bansuri http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3cz-a3n5wU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3cz-a3n5wU
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
Not really an assumption Share, it's all over the bible and koran about what a great dude he is and how he made us in his image and punishes us for being bad and rewards us for being good. It's enough of a motif for me to think there is a concrete idea among devotees about what he was like and what he wanted us to be like. Are you going to do a Judy and tell me that wasn't the god you were referring to ;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Salyavin, I think atheists also anthropomorphize God! For example, when they say that if there was a God, he or she would be the human idea of benign and there wouldn't be such horrible events in the world. That's making a big assumption about the nature of God. On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:01 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I love the people have shifted the idea of what god is when earlier interpretations turn out to be too easily disposed of. I can see why theology never satisfactorily answered any questions! But I am impressed with the energy people put in to weaving their way past the need for evidence into some sort of logical cul de sac of him being unfathomable. God has always been anthropomorphism, mankind's vanity and paranoia writ large. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can conceive of Him not existing.: So the Him you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an image that you've constructed in your imagination based on your Sunday School lessons, so is essentially an *idol* - a false god. It is good news that you see that idols can't exist. The more idols you dismiss the closer you come to the real God that lies beyond your or anyone else's conceptions. The 14th-century theologian Meister Eckhart made the same point: The more they curse God the more they praise Him! Re Seems reasonable to me that God would have a strong moral sense, stronger than mine even, and that he wouldn't like to see people suffer.: The Godhead doesn't have a strong moral sense. It is the crassest anthropomorphism to imagine otherwise. (It's another category error!) But we humans have a moral sense (The soul is naturally Christian - Tertullian, third century) so we should encourage that moral sense to flourish in the same way that a gardener encourages a flower to bloom and emit its fragrance.
[FairfieldLife] RE: An amazing rock
More rock, and less talk, from KDOC: https://app.box.com/s/ik6bnl8y1d7aw4sowvyy https://app.box.com/s/ik6bnl8y1d7aw4sowvyy https://app.box.com/s/egf32ws40dm4pntunzak https://app.box.com/s/egf32ws40dm4pntunzak https://app.box.com/s/1zxs4shar2va56451ikv https://app.box.com/s/1zxs4shar2va56451ikv https://app.box.com/s/75mfopyoo9j8t9og1ujv https://app.box.com/s/75mfopyoo9j8t9og1ujv
[FairfieldLife] RE: CLASSICAL THEISM
I suppose we see this differently. I do not see god. I see being, not evidence of being. You see (if I interpret your words correctly) evidence of god in the things you see. That seems to have an interpretative step involved. Am I understanding this properly? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: [Xeno] As to theism, I am a post-theist, I do not think the theistic arguments have much point, but they do have some interest for me even if I disagree with most of them. Fesers' discussion below is really well done, I think. I myself sometimes think using the conception 'absolute being' without the articles a, an, the, but it has a different significance for me than for a theist because it is not transcendent and not out of sight. [Ann's highlight] [Ann] I am a theist and my God, my creator is very much in evidence everywhere I look. It is not a transcendent thing and it is not out of sight.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
Nope, Salyavin, I'm gonna do a Share and try to explain my logic (-: Ok, then the atheists seem to do a double anthro! They don't anthropomorphize God directly. They take what others have written and interpret that in human terms. Really both atheists and theists are stuck with being human and interpreting God or Being or Source or Whatever from that perspective. Wonder what the squirrels and rocks think! On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:53 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Not really an assumption Share, it's all over the bible and koran about what a great dude he is and how he made us in his image and punishes us for being bad and rewards us for being good. It's enough of a motif for me to think there is a concrete idea among devotees about what he was like and what he wanted us to be like. Are you going to do a Judy and tell me that wasn't the god you were referring to ;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Salyavin, I think atheists also anthropomorphize God! For example, when they say that if there was a God, he or she would be the human idea of benign and there wouldn't be such horrible events in the world. That's making a big assumption about the nature of God. On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:01 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I love the people have shifted the idea of what god is when earlier interpretations turn out to be too easily disposed of. I can see why theology never satisfactorily answered any questions! But I am impressed with the energy people put in to weaving their way past the need for evidence into some sort of logical cul de sac of him being unfathomable. God has always been anthropomorphism, mankind's vanity and paranoia writ large. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can conceive of Him not existing.: So the Him you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an image that you've constructed in your imagination based on your Sunday School lessons, so is essentially an *idol* - a false god. It is good news that you see that idols can't exist. The more idols you dismiss the closer you come to the real God that lies beyond your or anyone else's conceptions. The 14th-century theologian Meister Eckhart made the same point: The more they curse God the more they praise Him! Re Seems reasonable to me that God would have a strong moral sense, stronger than mine even, and that he wouldn't like to see people suffer.: The Godhead doesn't have a strong moral sense. It is the crassest anthropomorphism to imagine otherwise. (It's another category error!) But we humans have a moral sense (The soul is naturally Christian - Tertullian, third century) so we should encourage that moral sense to flourish in the same way that a gardener encourages a flower to bloom and emit its fragrance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
I would say you have to be able to think to invent the concept of god. Everything else just gets on with it.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Nope, Salyavin, I'm gonna do a Share and try to explain my logic (-: Ok, then the atheists seem to do a double anthro! They don't anthropomorphize God directly. They take what others have written and interpret that in human terms. Really both atheists and theists are stuck with being human and interpreting God or Being or Source or Whatever from that perspective. Wonder what the squirrels and rocks think! On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:53 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Not really an assumption Share, it's all over the bible and koran about what a great dude he is and how he made us in his image and punishes us for being bad and rewards us for being good. It's enough of a motif for me to think there is a concrete idea among devotees about what he was like and what he wanted us to be like. Are you going to do a Judy and tell me that wasn't the god you were referring to ;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Salyavin, I think atheists also anthropomorphize God! For example, when they say that if there was a God, he or she would be the human idea of benign and there wouldn't be such horrible events in the world. That's making a big assumption about the nature of God. On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:01 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I love the people have shifted the idea of what god is when earlier interpretations turn out to be too easily disposed of. I can see why theology never satisfactorily answered any questions! But I am impressed with the energy people put in to weaving their way past the need for evidence into some sort of logical cul de sac of him being unfathomable. God has always been anthropomorphism, mankind's vanity and paranoia writ large. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can conceive of Him not existing.: So the Him you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an image that you've constructed in your imagination based on your Sunday School lessons, so is essentially an *idol* - a false god. It is good news that you see that idols can't exist. The more idols you dismiss the closer you come to the real God that lies beyond your or anyone else's conceptions. The 14th-century theologian Meister Eckhart made the same point: The more they curse God the more they praise Him! Re Seems reasonable to me that God would have a strong moral sense, stronger than mine even, and that he wouldn't like to see people suffer.: The Godhead doesn't have a strong moral sense. It is the crassest anthropomorphism to imagine otherwise. (It's another category error!) But we humans have a moral sense (The soul is naturally Christian - Tertullian, third century) so we should encourage that moral sense to flourish in the same way that a gardener encourages a flower to bloom and emit its fragrance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Indian music
I saw Hussain with MacLaughlin's band back in the early 1990s at Yoshi's when it was in Berkeley. I also met Hussain's mom who ran the Indian Cultural Center (or something like that) in San Francisco. On 02/19/2014 10:36 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Superb, very tuneful playing for tabla! I saw Zakir Hussain playing with John MacLaughlin in their band 'Remember Shakti', mesmerising percussion, great gig all round actually. I've got quite a few albums with Zakir on but my fave of his is 'Making Music', with MacLaughlin on guitar, Hariprasad Chaurasia the flautist and Jan Garbarek on sax. Very laid back and well worth a look. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: For those who have time to watch, this is a masterful concert, tabla and bansuri http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3cz-a3n5wU
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
And probably laughing all the time about the UFO reports the refueling will generate. On 02/19/2014 10:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote: They aren't filling them at once, they are queueing in each others slipstream while they wait their turn.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good news for Pushing Daisies fans
I see Stu is editing Melissa and Joey these days. Of course Bryan Fuller's current project is Hannibal. On 02/19/2014 07:23 AM, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Not off topic because one of our former FFL members won a Primetime Emmy for editing this wonderful and quirky seles... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/18/pushing-daisies-musical_n_4808045.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
I quess that´s why they seem to be standing still or moving very slowly in the video :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For all romantics out there
Little Stevie Wonder [image: Inline image 2] I Just Called To Say I Love You - Live http://youtu.be/XxoBaEQGMPo Recommended by the Professor DJ: Natural Wonder - Live [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: For all you romantics out there - B.J. Thomas - Hooked on a Feeling [image: Inline image 1] Hooked on a Feeling - Original version, vinyl http://youtu.be/Wqt_iZBvtCo Greatest Hits Medley http://youtu.be/iKsC7ocz6no I can't stop this feelin' deep inside of me Girl, you just don't realize what you do to me When ya hold me in your arms so tight You let me know everything's all right I-I-I, I'm hooked on a feelin' High on believin' that you're in love with me Lips are sweet as candy, the taste stays on my mind Girl, you keep me thirsty for another cup of wine I got it bad for you girl, but I don't need a cure I'll just stay addicted and hope I can endure All the good love when we're all alone Keep it up, girl, yeah ya turn me on I-I-I, I'm hooked on a feelin' High on believin' that you're in love with me All the good love when we're all alone Keep it up, girl, yeah ya turn me on I-I-I, I'm hooked on a feelin' I'm high on believin' that you're in love with me. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: [image: Inline image 1] There are lots of worse things than getting stuck on a deserted island with a beautiful woman like this! Huey Lewis The News - Happy To Be Stuck With You http://youtu.be/-8b0IKQxx2k On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: [image: Inline image 1] Elvis Presley - Are You Lonesome Tonight? http://youtu.be/_cS5aCozhcA The first time I heard Elvis was in 1953 in Abilene, Texas when I was about four years old. My mother took me to the Paramount theater and let me sit up front with her - she was about eighteen at the time. Later, when I was fifteen I started buying his records including this one I bought in 1960. Me and my first girlfriend used to listen to these Elvis songs all the time after school. At one time, I owned about a dozen Elvis albums on vinyl, since all sold. Now, I have a 2-CD set - The Essential Elvis Presley, RCA B000KX0HVY. This song, one of my favorites, is a very romantic song - a real tear-jerker! Read more: Last Train to Memphis: The Rise of Elvis Presley by Peter Guralnick Little, Brown and Company, 1995 Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley by Peter Guralnick Little, Brown and Company, 1999 Music by Lou Handman and lyrics by Roy Turk. It was written in 1926, and first published in 1927. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_You_Lonesome_Tonighthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_You_Lonesome_Tonight%3F_%28song%29 Are you lonesome tonight, do you miss me tonight? Are you sorry we drifted apart? Does your memory stray to a brighter sunny day When I kissed you and called you sweetheart? Do the chairs in your parlor seem empty and bare? Do you gaze at your doorstep and picture me there? Is your heart filled with pain, shall I come back again? Tell me dear, are you lonesome tonight? I wonder if you're lonesome tonight You know someone said that the world's a stage And each must play a part. Fate had me playing in love you as my sweet heart. Act one was when we met, I loved you at first glance You read your line so cleverly and never missed a cue Then came act two, you seemed to change and you acted strange And why I'll never know. Honey, you lied when you said you loved me And I had no cause to doubt you. But I'd rather go on hearing your lies Than go on living without you. Now the stage is bare and I'm standing there With emptiness all around And if you won't come back to me Then make them bring the curtain down. Is your heart filled with pain, shall I come back again? Tell me dear, are you lonesome tonight? On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:15 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.comwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams wrote: Very romantic dancing song! Speaking of romantic songs, here's one that has a cool story behind it. Back when I used to live in L.A., there was a bar out in North Malibu that I used to go to often to listen to a band called Billy and the Beaters. They were without question the most FUN band in L.A. to see and dance to, a modern version of the old Ray Charles band, with a horn section and great players. And Billy himself was just the best -- great guy, great voice, great songwriter, and fun. Anyway, he and his band were known around L.A., but their only album was long out of print and they were just gettin' by on club dates, and then a TV producer caught their act, loved it, and decided that one of Billy's songs would be perfect as the soundtrack behind key romantic moments between Michael J. Fox and Tracy Pollan on the TV show Family Ties. The song, and the
[FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
They do refuelling very high up in the atmosphere, check out the pictures again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I quess that´s why they seem to be standing still or moving very slowly in the video :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: Spiritual Virtue and Sin, on Earth
The Meditator's Oath of Fact: On my honor I will do my duty to obey Natural Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally Awake, and morally straight. It is not possible to look at the interests of the individual and society as being separate entities. This is a time of unification of these interests. If the individual does not put himself on the path of evolution [then] he participates in creating a society dominated by negative influences and hence becomes subject to disorder, criminality, and national poverty. -World Government News Issue 9 September 1978 Yes, thank you for not selling drugs and booze to our children. Practically, Spiritual virtue seems an experiential opposite of spiritual sin in affect. Virtue expands the development of spirituality in the subtle form of the human system. Sin obstructs the development of spirituality. Developing consciousness as with the experience of the transcendent Unified Field evidently is essential spirituality. Virtue guides us in expanding a more pure experience of consciousness. Sin obstructs spiritual progress. Practice of transcending meditation is virtuous in the development of spirituality. Sin is that which obstructs virtuous progress in spiritual evolution. “Never do that which you know to be wrong”. . Spiritually. -Buck Hoffman. Yep. An evident lack of spiritual will; beware the friends you keep. -Buck turquoiseb writes: Ahem. To quote the Fairfield Life home page, What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell mjackson74 writes: when I was there in 85-87, there were two guys, one a staff member, one a student who were dealing pot out of their rooms - all the people who smoked dope were aware of them - a bunch of the ESL (english as a second language people were their patrons) I found out through a friend who was buying from them. After the city cops got suspicious, the staff guy quit MIU, went to live in town and started dealing in town instead of on campus. One of the staff women I knew who had a son in MSAE told me that sometime before I arrived, an entire class of MSAE had been suspended for a time cause all of them had gotten busted - the university of course kept it quiet. Her son and a bunch of his classmates, all MSAE students, definitely were having pot parties - his mom caught him at one. You just weren't hanging out with the cool people There was no drug problem in the early to mid 80's at MIU. There was the occasional beer that was imbibed and certainly plenty of sex but most of it performed sober. . .
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now Playing
Little Stevie Wonder [image: Inline image 2] Thorens TD-124/SME 3009 Superstition - Live http://youtu.be/kTpt49GAIWM On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The Jerks At Work - Will Rigby - Paradoxaholic album http://youtu.be/xf0SFX3IW94 [image: Inline image 1] Yeah the jerks at work want genuflection from me I'm all booked up but my middle finger might be free... On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: [image: Inline image 1] Alan Jackson, Clint Black, George Strait, Jimmy Buffett, Kenny Chesney, and Toby Keith Margaritaville - Alan Jackson - Jimmy Buffet http://youtu.be/LascX14s_EY On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Willie Nelson On the Road Again http://youtu.be/1TD_pSeNelU [image: Inline image 1] Vintage JVC PL-10 Direct Drive 1978 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Best known for her 1977 country-pop crossover hit song, Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue, she accumulated 20 number one country hits during the 1970s and 1980s (18 on Billboard and 2 on Cashbox) with six albums certified Gold by the RIAA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Gayle Too Many Lovers (Not enough love) http://youtu.be/W0EQlXG2q3s [image: Inline image 1] Crystal Gayle's Greatest Hits (1983) http://youtu.be/30b-UKwYCRE On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: The dB's - Wake up,that time is gone. [image: Inline image 1] That Time Is Gone - Peter Holsapple, vocals and guitar http://youtu.be/f9CwLD1Yrvo Recorded live in 2012 in Austin, Texas at Threadgill's during the Music Fog Marathon. When Rita was living in San Diego the guitarist in this video, Peter Holsapple, was her boyfriends roommate. It was great meeting up with him again in Austin. An amazing reunion from the old days in California! MusicFog review: http://musicfog.com/home/2012/6/12/the-dbs-that-time-is-gone.html On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Now playing: Get ready for a tribal beat stomp dance down at the Techno Club with DJ Pseudo Buddha. Work it! [image: Inline image 1] How Ya Doin? Factory Mix - Beat Your Meat (Move Your Body 2) 1994 http://youtu.be/edSWATUnxwc On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: One Dove [image: Inline image 1] One Dove - White Love (Psychic Masterbation) - from Platinum on Black Vol 1 http://youtu.be/pqIsWexYD74 White Love - One Dove - Video http://youtu.be/5Z_hcAQz1Rw One Dove was a Scottish alternative dance music group active in the early 1990s, consisting of Dot Allison, Ian Carmichael and Jim McKinven. One Dove: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Dove On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The Jim Cullum Jazz Band [image: Inline image 1] We saw this band a few years ago and we listen to them on PRI every week. So, we decided to see them again soon. This is going to be a very busy time for music lovers around here what with the San Antonio Stock Show and Rodeo followed by South by Southwest (SxSW) the music and film festival in Austin (Rodriquez will probably be there and Linklater too). In this video the Jim Cullum Jazz Band is joined by David Jellema when they performed at the historic Pearl Brewery in San Antonio Texas, for the public radio series Riverwalk Jazz in October 2009: Clarinet Marmalade http://youtu.be/z4RWkTrU2d8 Jim Cullum Jazz Band Boardwalk Bistro 7:30pm -- 10:30pm Friday February 7, 2014 4011 Broadway, San Antonio http://riverwalkjazz.org/ http://www.pri.org/programs/riverwalk-jazz The Jim Cullum Jazz Band is an acoustic seven-piece traditional jazz ensemble led by cornetist Jim Cullum, Jr.. Since 1989, the band has been featured nationally on their own weekly public radio series Riverwalk Jazz. The band performs live Tuesday through Saturday at the Landing Jazz Club on the Riverwalk in San Antonio, Texas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cullum_Jazz_Band On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The dB's [image: Inline image 1] That Time Is Gone - Peter Holsapple, vocals and guitar http://youtu.be/f9CwLD1Yrvo Recorded live in 2012 in Austin, Texas at Threadgill's during the Music Fog Marathon. When Rita was living in San Diego the guitarist in this video, Peter Holsapple, was her boyfriends roommate. It was great meeting up with him again in Austin. An amazing reunion from the old days in California! MusicFog review: http://musicfog.com/home/2012/6/12/the-dbs-that-time-is-gone.html On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Orianthi [image: Inline image 3] Orienthe with Carls Santana Orianthi Panagaris, better known by her mononym Orianthi, is an Australian musician, singer-songwriter
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today
Today we looked at these: [image: Inline image 1] On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: We looked at this place yesterday - it needs a little fixing up. Apparently it was moved here from another location and placed on concrete piers. The house has an has a east-facing front door. [image: Inline image 2] On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Mexican Craft Beer Notable brews include Imperial Tequila Ale from Cerveceria Minerva in Zapopan, a suburb of Guadalajara, which is peppery thanks to time spent in re-purposed oak barrels from tequila company Reserva los González. There's also the rich, creamy Bucéfalo Imperial Stout from Tijuana's Cervecería Rámuri, made with roasted Mexican coffee beans. On the sweetest end of the spectrum are seasonal beers brewed with mango and honey at Baja Brewing Company in Los Cabos. 'This Changes Everything: Mexican Craft Beer' https://www.yahoo.com/food/mexican-craft-beer-76236053012.html On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: We went by this place a few days ago to get some beer. [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: We went to this place yesterday: [image: Inline image 1] On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Today we went to this place: [image: Inline image 1] They have a good cheese selection: [image: Inline image 2] [image: Inline image 3] On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: We went to this place yesterday - they have some boots for sale. That's a whole lotta shit stompers in one place. I prefer shopping in smaller, boutique-y stores though. I always have people coming into my strictly English tack store asking where to buy cowboy boots because Victoria doesn't have anywhere that sells them. Next time I'll send them to Texas. [image: Inline image 1] Cavender's Boot City [image: Inline image 2] Tony Lama, Justin, Lucchese, Laredo On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Richard Williams punditster@...wrote: Today, we went to this place: [image: Inline image 2] On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Richard Williams punditster@...wrote: * I read through this post, bemused by it, but I didn't notice until I'd gotten almost all the way to the end of it that part of my mind was still saying, What's a car? :-)* You probably don't even need a car over there - in fact, it would be a problem. Over, here a car is just another tool for most people. Without one, I'd be dead in the water. Some people who are rich probably drive cars just for fun and pleasure, like my neighbor, who doesn't drive these cars much - there just for shows. I inherited the Eldorado from Mom. She bought it new off the show room floor and it's been garaged it's whole life. She still had a driver's license at age 86, but hadn't driven in about ten years. So, one day I just took it - I'm using it for highway driving. I put some new tires on it and a new disc brakes. You can't get anything these days for a car like that - maybe $1500. The AC still works and it has cruise control. Also, it has a kick-ass Delco Bose sound system with CD player inside. Sweet! [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: noozguru et al, small country, flat land. And no snow or ice on the roads and bike paths! *Ahem. Only pussies leave their bikes at home when it snows. * * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ* On Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:11 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Small country, flat land. On 12/29/2013 07:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Uh oh. I think I've achieved one of those milestones along the path to You know you're in danger of becoming Dutch when... consciousness. I read through this post, bemused by it, but I didn't notice until I'd gotten almost all the way to the end of it that part of my mind was still saying, What's a car? :-) http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/04/09/learning-from-the-netherlands-about-bikes/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today
where are these rain barrels to be found..?
[FairfieldLife] How to eat an Internet troll - Notes Errata by Mark Morford
http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2014/02/18/how-to-eat-an-internet-troll/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
The funny thing is the military could just say it their aircraft doing refueling when it causes such reports. They should have done that in Phoenix a few years back but they didn't. The government must feel it is good to keep the UFO phenomena around for some reason. On 02/19/2014 12:49 PM, salyavin808 wrote: They do refuelling very high up in the atmosphere, check out the pictures again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I quess that´s why they seem to be standing still or moving very slowly in the video :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Indian music
On 2/19/2014 12:16 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: masterful concert, tabla and bansuri That's what I'm talking about! Music for Yoga and Meditation https://groups.yahoo.com/groups/FairfieldLife/366638 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/366638
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today
We saw these rain barrels at Whole Foods Market. [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:24 PM, karuna54...@yahoo.com wrote: where are these rain barrels to be found..?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: UFO Giant Over Colombia filmed 19. February 2014
I remember that in the 50's they were worried that UFO reports would cause confusion in the public and they would miss Russian craft invading our airspace. As the years went by they encouraged UFO sightings by infiltrating UFO groups to spread disinformation and discredit the movement. Later on they were happy for people to think anything odd in the air was from outer space rather than a secret weapon or spy plane. After the cold war it all stopped, until the flying triangles of the gulf war, and Columbia of course... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: The funny thing is the military could just say it their aircraft doing refueling when it causes such reports. They should have done that in Phoenix a few years back but they didn't. The government must feel it is good to keep the UFO phenomena around for some reason. On 02/19/2014 12:49 PM, salyavin808 wrote: They do refuelling very high up in the atmosphere, check out the pictures again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I quess that´s why they seem to be standing still or moving very slowly in the video :-)
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 20-Feb-14 00:15:09 UTC
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[FairfieldLife] RE: Spiritual Virtue and Sin, on Earth
The Fairfield Meditating Community “Based on balancing labor and leisure to meditate while working together for the benefit of the community.” [-Brook Farm] The Meditator's Oath of Fact: On my honor I will do my duty to obey Natural Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally Awake, and morally straight. It is not possible to look at the interests of the individual and society as being separate entities. This is a time of unification of these interests. If the individual does not put himself on the path of evolution [then] he participates in creating a society dominated by negative influences and hence becomes subject to disorder, criminality, and national poverty. -World Government News Issue 9 September 1978 Yes, thank you for not selling drugs and booze to our children. Practically, Spiritual virtue seems an experiential opposite of spiritual sin in affect. Virtue expands the development of spirituality in the subtle form of the human system. Sin obstructs the development of spirituality. Developing consciousness as with the experience of the transcendent Unified Field evidently is essential spirituality. Virtue guides us in expanding a more pure experience of consciousness. Sin obstructs spiritual progress. Practice of transcending meditation is virtuous in the development of spirituality. Sin is that which obstructs virtuous progress in spiritual evolution. “Never do that which you know to be wrong”. . Spiritually. -Buck Hoffman. Yep. An evident lack of spiritual will; beware the friends you keep. -Buck turquoiseb writes: Ahem. To quote the Fairfield Life home page, What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell mjackson74 writes: when I was there in 85-87, there were two guys, one a staff member, one a student who were dealing pot out of their rooms - all the people who smoked dope were aware of them - a bunch of the ESL (english as a second language people were their patrons) I found out through a friend who was buying from them. After the city cops got suspicious, the staff guy quit MIU, went to live in town and started dealing in town instead of on campus. One of the staff women I knew who had a son in MSAE told me that sometime before I arrived, an entire class of MSAE had been suspended for a time cause all of them had gotten busted - the university of course kept it quiet. Her son and a bunch of his classmates, all MSAE students, definitely were having pot parties - his mom caught him at one. You just weren't hanging out with the cool people There was no drug problem in the early to mid 80's at MIU. There was the occasional beer that was imbibed and certainly plenty of sex but most of it performed sober. . .
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Historic Meissner-like Effect [ME] of Peace:
I see all of you in the Domes, rubbing that lamp and saying I wish Cotton was a monkey. http://vimeo.com/47630104 On Thu, 2/20/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Historic Meissner-like Effect [ME] of Peace: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 20, 2014, 12:16 AM Son, I was at a lecture surveying the science around spirituality just last nite and quite evidently you are hundreds of papers behind in the accruing science around this. Yes, South Carolina has never been particularly strong in science education. May the Unified Field help you see the light too, -Buck mjackson74 writes: Saying it over and over doesn't make it so. That's about as useful as wishing Cotton was a monkey. 1985-5,600 experts in the Maharishi Technology of the Unified Field from 48 countries and all 50 states of the United States gathered in Washington, D.C., from July 9-17, 1985, for the World Assembly on Vedic Science. They collectively practiced the Maharishi Technology of the Unified Field to create a powerful upsurge of coherence in world consciousness, the foundation for permanent world peace. 1984, Inspired by the 'Global Taste of Utopia', Maharishi begins to establish the irreversibility of the 'Global Maharishi Effect' for maintaining coherence in world consciousness for all time through the power of pure knowledge, which is endowed with the infinite organizing power of Natural Law. Maharishi Formulates his Unified Field-Based Integrated Systems of Education, Health, Government, Economics, Defense, Rehabilitation, and Agriculture, which will perpetuate the forthcoming Unified Field-based Ideal Civilization -Samhita-Based Civilization- Vedic Civilization. A wave of inspiration throughout the world to create groups of 7,000 'Yogic Flyers' -experts in the Maharishi Technology of the Unified Field- in each continent. 1983-4 7,000 'Yogic Flyers' – experts in the Maharishi Technology fo the Unified Field- gather at the Maharishi International University (MIU), Fairfield, Iowa, U.S.A., to create the first Global Maharishi Effect throughout the world -a strong influence of harmony and positivity in world consciousness, described by the MIU family as the 'FIRST TASTE OF UTOPIA'. During this three-week period of this '7,000' World Peace Assembly”, the rise of positive trends throughout the world are well documented by scientific research, and by the world press. 1981, Maharishi conducts the First International Vedic Studies Course in New Delhi and with the quiet performance of the international assembly of 3,000 Governors of the Age of Enlightenment practicing his Vedic Technology -”Yogic Flying” - calms down the growing violent tendencies in India, demonstrating the rise of Sattwa (balance in Nature). Having proven the reliability of the Maharishi Effect irrespective of cultural differences in the world, as a scientist Maharishi proceeds to measure the invincibility of the Maharishi Effect. Maharishi test this formula by sending Governors of the Age of Enlightenment to the most trouble spots on earth (Iran, Rhodesia, Nicaragua) to create the Maharishi Effect and calm down violence. 1979 The First Annual World Peace Assembly of Governors of the Age of Enlightenment is held in the U.S.A to create coherence in national and world consciousness. 1978,,Discovery of the “Extended Maharishi Effect” -square root of one percent of the population practicing the TM and TM-Sidhi program together in one place produces coherence in collective consciousness promoting positive and progressive trends in society. Maharishi tests this formula by sending Governors of the Age of Enlightenment to the most troubled spots on earth to calm the violence and turbulence. Again scientific research validates the success of this program. 12 January 1977 Creating an Ideal Society: . .people currently practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique are constantly intensifying the Maharishi Effect and contributing to the Age of Enlightenment. The dawn is rising to the day. The influence of orderliness generated from the state of infinite correlation experienced during the Transcendental Meditation technique is so powerful that even one per cent of the people in society practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique is sufficient to neutralize negative tendencies and give an evolutionary direction to community life as a whole. The phenomenon of a powerful influence of harmony spreading through a whole community or nation when a small fraction of the population practices the Transcendental Meditation technique is known as the Maharishi Effect [ME]. Considering the [Maharishi]
[FairfieldLife] RE: Empathy versus cruelty
Maharishi's was revolutionary and comprehensive thinking about global peace, like Elise M. Boulding (July 6, 1920 – June 24, 2010). Boulding offers Building a Global Civic Culture: Education for an Interdependent as a holistic first step towards solving international conflicts. She envisions a “global civic culture” as not simply made of nation states but as a global community of human beings. The book enforces the idea of thinking globally on a microcosmic level to facilitate solving problems in a peaceful international order. Boulding believed that a civic world order could become a reality, while acknowledging the strife that exists now. Building a Global Civic Culture is geared toward addressing the world’s problems and offering ideas for solutions. To create peace, Boulding believes that we must all become teachers and develop new learning communities. Everyone, old and young, will teach. Age groups will teach each other from their respective generations. How we perceive events unique to our generation shapes the lens through which we each see later events. We need to know what the world looks like to young and old alike. Boulding believes all will be teachers. In order to do this, we must learn to think outside of the box. Humans are intuitive, creative animals with cognitive-analytic reasoning abilities. We as human animals can grasp complex wholes from partial sets of facts. Boulding states that for most of us, education has been tied to the maxim “stick to the facts, no need for imaginative thinking.” We are taught in school that imagination and intuition are virtues of the daydreamer, not the true student. To the contrary, Boulding states we need to harness both intuition and imagination to solve world crises. Ultimately this book encourages us to become both teachers and problem solvers and includes exercises to lead the way. Elise M. Boulding was a Quaker sociologist [many credentials], and author credited as a major contributor to creating the academic discipline of Peace and Conflict Studies. Her holistic, multidimensional approach to peace research sets her apart as an important scholar and activist in multiple fields. Her written works span several decades and range from discussion of family as a foundation for peace, to Quaker spirituality to reinventing the international “global culture”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elise_M._Boulding#Building_a_Global_Civic_Culture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elise_M._Boulding#Building_a_Global_Civic_Culture Evidently as practicing and experience meditators we are not alone in our experience around this. There are other mystics who see this too. -Buck in the Dome S3raphita , I feel you are being quite saintly in taking notice of the circumstance. Yep, it is just another sign of bad upbringing and the failure of our schools and society. Including fault of all those collectively standing around smirking who without initiative themselves or had the opportunity in their own lives to pursue the proper upbringing of virtue of spiritual life themselves and all those who who may know better will themselves not going out even on a limb to help anyone other than themselves in their own material world of widget worth. I sense saintly virtue in you that you would even notice the collective failure in this incident in this poor unlucky youth. The shoplifter is just another index showing the lack in our meissner-like collective transmission of collective consciousness of virtue in life. You are a teacher of the absolute wisdom in life are you not? A transmitter of spiritual virtue? It makes sense that you are sensitive to what was in that public scene. It is now the age of science and it is neigh time they put quiet-time meditation in to the training of all our children in their schools, if their families can not provide it for their own children if not just to save us all. To save us all from this vileness otherwise there is a place for public education in these sound values of life. All it takes is some quiet-time. It pisses me off too to watch the smirking jerks as you point to, like some even here who would actually stand in the way and fight what is such evident science and get in the way of the larger transmission of virtue in life. Yep, all those smirking jerks all watching the theatre of this youth being taken off should all be sending checks of donation as a matter of character to the David Lynch Foundation to help in the trenches in the fight against all that is vile in life. The teaching of and learning of the transcendental meditative state is the inalienable right to be guaranteed of every human being born in to this life. That is the first right that needs to be first guaranteed to every child growing up. Teaching of effective transcending meditation in all our schools is now the scientific standard of a proper education and should be all our public's policy regardless. I
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to eat an Internet troll - Notes Errata by Mark Morford
The article is more about comment trolls than trolling on forums or groups. Mark maybe doesn't hangout in any groups or forums. On 02/19/2014 01:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote: http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2014/02/18/how-to-eat-an-internet-troll/
[FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the Day,
There is a principle which is pure, placed in the human mind, which in different places and ages hath had different names. It is, however, pure and proceeds from God (the Unified Field). It is deep and inward, confined to no forms of religion nor excluded from any, where the heart stands in perfect sincerity. In whomsoever this takes root and grows, of what nation soever, they become brethren. -John Woolman, Quaker “Today, with the discovery that within every brain physiology are tremendous powers, the world today is different than the world of yesterday. All those powers that are administering the individual life are those powers which together are administering the whole universe. That higher power can be enlivened in the brains of people in every nation, and this will free the life of every country from suffering, problems, and failures. Just free it and free it and free it. For this, we have Maharishi Open University. It will open the treasures of bliss, happiness, and energy that are there inside of everyone.” -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, July 9, 1998, Guru Purnima Nablusoss1008 writes: “The important thing is this: to be able, at any moment, to sacrifice what we are for what we could become” - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - we as individuals and we the peoples, humanity. When humanity collectively (more or less) are willing to sacrifice our past for what we can become, then we stand at an important threshold; The Rising Sun of The Age of Enlightenment. This is what Masters are urging and inspiring us to become; a true humanity, brothers. All the Saints, the messengers of Godhead throughout recorded history gave voice to the same thing. Buddha, Maharishi, Jesus, Mohammad - same thing, same message.
[FairfieldLife] Flawed testosterone studies
LEF replies to the flawed studies reported in the media. http://www.lef.org/testosterone-risk
[FairfieldLife] RE: Empathy versus cruelty
Re You should have taken advantage of the confusion and lifted yourself a new TV.: Well, maybe I would have! - but I don't need to as I can afford to buy myself a new TV any time I want one. So could most of the smirkers I witnessed. That's what they don't register: it's easy to feel self-satisfied when you've got a loaded wallet. It's those who suffer from grinding poverty yet who would never consider turning to crime that have earned the right to be considered virtuous.
[FairfieldLife] prayer to Ganesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR0zINRgNHc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR0zINRgNHc
[FairfieldLife] RE: prayer to Ganesh
http://alex.natel.net/ffl/flash_animation/chanting_vakratunda.swf http://alex.natel.net/ffl/flash_animation/chanting_vakratunda.swf ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR0zINRgNHc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR0zINRgNHc
[FairfieldLife] RE: CLASSICAL THEISM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: I suppose we see this differently. I do not see god. I see being, not evidence of being. You see (if I interpret your words correctly) evidence of god in the things you see. That seems to have an interpretative step involved. Am I understanding this properly? If by interpretive you mean on the level of thought, then yes, that is part of my perception. But I don't see things in terms of being, that is very impersonal, abstract and therefore distant for me. I feel embraced, literally surrounded and cocooned within all of this creation and the creation is so intelligent. The world in which I live is like swimming amidst all of this incredible richness of matter. We exist as physical entities in our human bodies surrounded by soil and sky and walls and we stand on dirt or wood or stone. It is everywhere and it is whole and real. And the structure of it, the form and movement is evidently the result of something that guided and gave birth to it, allowed it to manifest. This is my feeling, this is how I move and work within this material world. For me, these things are irrefutable. You speak of seeing being and I do to but perhaps our perception of being is different because I also see it as something deeply personal and loving and it is concretized in the things that make up this world, this universe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: [Xeno] As to theism, I am a post-theist, I do not think the theistic arguments have much point, but they do have some interest for me even if I disagree with most of them. Fesers' discussion below is really well done, I think. I myself sometimes think using the conception 'absolute being' without the articles a, an, the, but it has a different significance for me than for a theist because it is not transcendent and not out of sight. [Ann's highlight] [Ann] I am a theist and my God, my creator is very much in evidence everywhere I look. It is not a transcendent thing and it is not out of sight.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: And for those who eschew vastu, there's always feng shui (-: Same difference. http://fengshui.about.com/od/love/qt/perfectbedroom.htm On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:14 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Yeah, but within the context of those trapped in the belief system, you've got a good line 'Hey, I have a Vastu house. You should see the bedroom, it's fabulous, and the headboard is perfectly aligned with true East! Complete support of Natural Law!' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: You'll have to forgive me, but I find the idea of someone having better sex as the result of buying a Maharishi Vastu house even more ludicrous than the idea of someone actually levitating as a result of the Maharishi TM-Sidhis. But thanks for the best laugh of the day. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home You forgot better sex.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nice places, I'd have either of them. But what drives me nuts is the crap about sleeping better, being healthier and feeling protected. Or making better decisions in life and business. It's such a load of bull. I lived in a SV home for a summer and didn't sleep any better than usual, didn't have any bright ideas (no more than usual anyway) It was business as usual except I had to walk further to get to the garden. But I guess if they dropped the mood making crap they wouldn't be able to cream some money off for the SV license. A nice house is a nice house. Plenty of natural light, space that doesn't cramp, natural building materials - these are all things that are no-brainers for a pleasant environment. Lots of expensive and not so expensive houses incorporate these features so I can't see spending even more money for someone to tell you and charge for things that are already desirable by many people. You'll sleep better if you aren't next to a rail line and your outlook on life might improve if you don't live in a dark hovel but do we need Vastu to tell us this? LOL, some people do. The real TM TB's think that if it's vastu it's perfect, and they will live long and happy lives because of it. It was sold as the final solution, the missing piece of the jigsaw for those who had drunk all the other Kool-aid the TMO sells. In fact, non SV homes were suddenly making us ill and stopping us becoming enlightened! Treat your house like it's burning down said Marshy, and that very same day, ie ten years later, some were built in the UK to extremely underwhelming effect, and then they found out that the hill near Skem was delaying the sunrise by 2 minutes so anything they did wasn't full vastu anyway! So anyone who cared enough, and could afford it, has decamped to Rendlesham in Suffolk - Europe's first full vastu village. I would like one because I like the fact that the sun rises in front of the house on midsummers day and you can therefore measure equinoxes using the fenceposts. Something cool about that, like a link to the iron age or ancient Rome, which is probably what they used it for being farmers and therefore sun worshippers. Knowing when the seasons are about to change was pivotal in those days. And the reason the kitchen was on that side of the house was to keep the food in the coolest place. So there is some logic to it, just don't expect miracles No, no miracles. When we were building our current house we chose a plan that we found attractive and functional. Then we had to decide where to place this house on the five acres of available land we owned. We spent a long time figuring out how the sun rose and set during each part of the year and how deep down into a small valley our house might sit with a tree-lined ridge above and how that would effect the light when the sun was setting. We aren't trained in any particular house planning but if you use your logic and 2% of your brain even an idiot can figure out if they want sun in the morning or the afternoon and which rooms they would like that to be shining in and during what part of the day. So we took the basic house plan and reversed it and angled it on the property just so and situated the building site so many feet down the ridge line to catch the morning sun and evening sun in just such a way and voila! We have morning light in our kitchen and bedroom and mid day light in the living room and kitchen and evening light in the library and dining room. I think we did a damn good job, vastu or no vastu. I guess on the plus side we have no south facing exit.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the Day,
Today, as we stand here repeating the same ideas over and over and over again for the solution to problems, and even though these ideas have miscarried in the advance of the goal of solving all problems, we continue nonetheless repeating these ideas over and over and over in the knowledge that if we keep repeating them over and over and over we will absent ourselves from the experience that they have run aground and the desired solutions to the problems we are still faced with have not manifested. That brings a welcome fulfillment to our dreams of a better world, for not noticing that the world has not changed in any significant way, we can in all honesty bask in the sunshine of that dream by never waking from that dream, that it may continue to fulfill us forever and forever. For that dream which never changes is indeed our salvation. Let us never disturb our deep and profound sleep, secure in that wisdom that cannot be touched by time, by reason, by disconfirmation, by refutation, even unto eternity. This is the principled life, for when we close our eyes, all remains bliss.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the Day; The important thing is this:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Today, as we stand here repeating the same ideas over and over and over again for the solution to problems, and even though these ideas have miscarried in the advance of the goal of solving all problems, we continue nonetheless repeating these ideas over and over and over in the knowledge that if we keep repeating them over and over and over we will absent ourselves from the experience that they have run aground and the desired solutions to the problems we are still faced with have not manifested. That brings a welcome fulfillment to our dreams of a better world, for not noticing that the world has not changed in any significant way, we can in all honesty bask in the sunshine of that dream by never waking from that dream, that it may continue to fulfill us forever and forever. For that dream which never changes is indeed our salvation. Let us never disturb our deep and profound sleep, secure in that wisdom that cannot be touched by time, by reason, by disconfirmation, by refutation, even unto eternity. This is the principled life, for when we close our eyes, all remains bliss. I guess this means you won't be taking Buck up on his invitation to visit FF and take a turn or two in the men's dome.
[FairfieldLife] RE: CLASSICAL THEISM
This is a really wonderful description Ann. I think my perception of the world is rather impersonal. Life would be extremely boring if everyone were the same. I do not find my perception boring, it often has great beauty, but that personal sense I think is long gone, there is a rather intense neutrality that I experience. You win some you lose some. I do not feel it as a loss, but you reminded me of it, when things had a bright individualistic sparkle to them. I think that some, were they to know this ahead of time, might think to back away from it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: I suppose we see this differently. I do not see god. I see being, not evidence of being. You see (if I interpret your words correctly) evidence of god in the things you see. That seems to have an interpretative step involved. Am I understanding this properly? If by interpretive you mean on the level of thought, then yes, that is part of my perception. But I don't see things in terms of being, that is very impersonal, abstract and therefore distant for me. I feel embraced, literally surrounded and cocooned within all of this creation and the creation is so intelligent. The world in which I live is like swimming amidst all of this incredible richness of matter. We exist as physical entities in our human bodies surrounded by soil and sky and walls and we stand on dirt or wood or stone. It is everywhere and it is whole and real. And the structure of it, the form and movement is evidently the result of something that guided and gave birth to it, allowed it to manifest. This is my feeling, this is how I move and work within this material world. For me, these things are irrefutable. You speak of seeing being and I do to but perhaps our perception of being is different because I also see it as something deeply personal and loving and it is concretized in the things that make up this world, this universe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: [Xeno] As to theism, I am a post-theist, I do not think the theistic arguments have much point, but they do have some interest for me even if I disagree with most of them. Fesers' discussion below is really well done, I think. I myself sometimes think using the conception 'absolute being' without the articles a, an, the, but it has a different significance for me than for a theist because it is not transcendent and not out of sight. [Ann's highlight] [Ann] I am a theist and my God, my creator is very much in evidence everywhere I look. It is not a transcendent thing and it is not out of sight.
[FairfieldLife] RE: CLASSICAL THEISM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: This is a really wonderful description Ann. I think my perception of the world is rather impersonal. Life would be extremely boring if everyone were the same. I do not find my perception boring, it often has great beauty, but that personal sense I think is long gone, there is a rather intense neutrality that I experience. You win some you lose some. I do not feel it as a loss, but you reminded me of it, when things had a bright individualistic sparkle to them. I think that some, were they to know this ahead of time, might think to back away from it. I remember some pictures you posted here of where you live, the mountains and the small towns and the lakes and you obviously appreciate the beauty of that. It is a gorgeous area that you live in and that is not lost on you. But what you say here might give some pause. It has big implications and makes me wonder about it all. What it is that we strive toward when we look to improve our consciousness, to change our outlook and vision. Although I am open to change and to new things I am not sure what you describe is so tantalizing. And you did catch the feeling I was trying to convey, I believe. There is a bright individualistic sparkle you said. I like that, I like that a lot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: I suppose we see this differently. I do not see god. I see being, not evidence of being. You see (if I interpret your words correctly) evidence of god in the things you see. That seems to have an interpretative step involved. Am I understanding this properly? If by interpretive you mean on the level of thought, then yes, that is part of my perception. But I don't see things in terms of being, that is very impersonal, abstract and therefore distant for me. I feel embraced, literally surrounded and cocooned within all of this creation and the creation is so intelligent. The world in which I live is like swimming amidst all of this incredible richness of matter. We exist as physical entities in our human bodies surrounded by soil and sky and walls and we stand on dirt or wood or stone. It is everywhere and it is whole and real. And the structure of it, the form and movement is evidently the result of something that guided and gave birth to it, allowed it to manifest. This is my feeling, this is how I move and work within this material world. For me, these things are irrefutable. You speak of seeing being and I do to but perhaps our perception of being is different because I also see it as something deeply personal and loving and it is concretized in the things that make up this world, this universe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: [Xeno] As to theism, I am a post-theist, I do not think the theistic arguments have much point, but they do have some interest for me even if I disagree with most of them. Fesers' discussion below is really well done, I think. I myself sometimes think using the conception 'absolute being' without the articles a, an, the, but it has a different significance for me than for a theist because it is not transcendent and not out of sight. [Ann's highlight] [Ann] I am a theist and my God, my creator is very much in evidence everywhere I look. It is not a transcendent thing and it is not out of sight.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rustic Farmhouse Style Maharishi Vastu Home
Sounds great! Really cool being able to build your own house. We have a show on TV here called 'Grand Designs' they'd love to see it I'm sure, anyone who takes nature into account when building a home is doing something most people don't even think about. It's actually the essence of vastu, the most important thing about a home is whether you feel like you want to live in it when you walk through the door. All the rules and regulations are irrelevant if you don't get that right. And as we've seen the point of the place facing east is for practical reasons but it gets sold as a cure all, there isn't any magic except that being happy is probably better for your health than not being happy! Maybe they were hoping for a placebo effect of people getting better health simply because they paid for a house that will do that, but I know a few people who have died early and got serious incurable illness even though they lived under the umbrella of vastu. Not a great advert! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nice places, I'd have either of them. But what drives me nuts is the crap about sleeping better, being healthier and feeling protected. Or making better decisions in life and business. It's such a load of bull. I lived in a SV home for a summer and didn't sleep any better than usual, didn't have any bright ideas (no more than usual anyway) It was business as usual except I had to walk further to get to the garden. But I guess if they dropped the mood making crap they wouldn't be able to cream some money off for the SV license. A nice house is a nice house. Plenty of natural light, space that doesn't cramp, natural building materials - these are all things that are no-brainers for a pleasant environment. Lots of expensive and not so expensive houses incorporate these features so I can't see spending even more money for someone to tell you and charge for things that are already desirable by many people. You'll sleep better if you aren't next to a rail line and your outlook on life might improve if you don't live in a dark hovel but do we need Vastu to tell us this? LOL, some people do. The real TM TB's think that if it's vastu it's perfect, and they will live long and happy lives because of it. It was sold as the final solution, the missing piece of the jigsaw for those who had drunk all the other Kool-aid the TMO sells. In fact, non SV homes were suddenly making us ill and stopping us becoming enlightened! Treat your house like it's burning down said Marshy, and that very same day, ie ten years later, some were built in the UK to extremely underwhelming effect, and then they found out that the hill near Skem was delaying the sunrise by 2 minutes so anything they did wasn't full vastu anyway! So anyone who cared enough, and could afford it, has decamped to Rendlesham in Suffolk - Europe's first full vastu village. I would like one because I like the fact that the sun rises in front of the house on midsummers day and you can therefore measure equinoxes using the fenceposts. Something cool about that, like a link to the iron age or ancient Rome, which is probably what they used it for being farmers and therefore sun worshippers. Knowing when the seasons are about to change was pivotal in those days. And the reason the kitchen was on that side of the house was to keep the food in the coolest place. So there is some logic to it, just don't expect miracles No, no miracles. When we were building our current house we chose a plan that we found attractive and functional. Then we had to decide where to place this house on the five acres of available land we owned. We spent a long time figuring out how the sun rose and set during each part of the year and how deep down into a small valley our house might sit with a tree-lined ridge above and how that would effect the light when the sun was setting. We aren't trained in any particular house planning but if you use your logic and 2% of your brain even an idiot can figure out if they want sun in the morning or the afternoon and which rooms they would like that to be shining in and during what part of the day. So we took the basic house plan and reversed it and angled it on the property just so and situated the building site so many feet down the ridge line to catch the morning sun and evening sun in just such a way and voila! We have morning light in our kitchen and bedroom and mid day light in the living room and kitchen and evening light in the library and dining room. I think we did a damn good job, vastu or no vastu. I guess on the plus side we have no south facing exit.
