date:20150619

[FairfieldLife] The Vedas differ...

2015-06-19 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]



 As the Mahabharata says, “The Vedas differ, and so do the Smṛtis. No one is a 
muni who has no independent opinion of his own (nāsau muniryasya mataṃ na 
bhinnam).” 

 

 From http://www.aghori.it/woodroffe_introduction_to_tantra_sastra.pdf 
http://www.aghori.it/woodroffe_introduction_to_tantra_sastra.pdf

[FairfieldLife] Rand Paul's Tax Proposal

2015-06-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It appears that there's a hidden agenda behind his proposal.  The sugar coating 
is that taxes are reduced for everybody.  But the hammer is that the government 
expenses will have to be reduced to fit the new tax income received.  What do 
you think?
 

 Presidential candidate Rand Paul plans to 'blow up' tax code 
http://news.yahoo.com/presidential-candidate-rand-paul-plans-blow-tax-code-205639493--election.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/presidential-candidate-rand-paul-plans-blow-tax-code-205639493--election.html
 
 
 Presidential candidate Rand Paul plans to 'blow up&#... 
http://news.yahoo.com/presidential-candidate-rand-paul-plans-blow-tax-code-205639493--election.html
 WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rand Paul called Thursday 
for a "fair and flat tax" that would "blow up" the nation's ta...
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Religion: a warning from history...

2015-06-19 Thread salyavin808



 So, what did we learn in the 20th century? Not much it seems...
 

 Jewish extremists suspected of torching Sea of Galilee 'loaves and fishes' 
church in Tabgha 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/jewish-extremists-suspected-of-torching-sea-of-galilee-loaves-and-fishes-church-in-tabgha-10329998.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/jewish-extremists-suspected-of-torching-sea-of-galilee-loaves-and-fishes-church-in-tabgha-10329998.html
 
 
 Jewish extremists suspected of torching Sea of Galilee &... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/jewish-extremists-suspected-of-torching-sea-of-galilee-loaves-and-fishes-church-in-tabgha-10329998.html
 A fire believed to have been started by Jewish extremists has badly damaged a 
church on the Sea of Galilee built on the site where Christian tradition holds 
that...
 
 
 
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/jewish-extremists-suspected-of-torching-sea-of-galilee-loaves-and-fishes-church-in-tabgha-10329998.html
 
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[FairfieldLife] Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.
- Forwarded Message -
  From: TurquoiseBee 
 To: Alex Stanley  
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
 Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access 
to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on 
supposedly "offending" posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post 
#416493 he explicitly said:
In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” 
and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on 
moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going 
forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines 
if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your 
cooperative collaboration on this.  -JaiGuruYou! 

Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright 
dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me 
bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it 
for me. 

Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings 
with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there 
over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present 
in the newest moderator. 

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name?  :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

2015-06-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 Taking a grain of salt I still find this archive of spiritual talks impressive 
now. I should have liked to have heard him deliver some of these for context.
 

 
 Context often is everything. I been with Maharishi and heard him say things 
that then got retold by people later out in the field, even by folks who 
'heard' them, completely missing the context as things were said originally. I 
recall being there hearing Maharishi talking about kundalini awakening in the 
energy system and using a metaphor by example which people later reported 
taking literally. I was younger then and hearing things recycle like that 
became a good lesson about folks and their variability in comprehension at 
following things in context. Salt please.
 -JaiGuruYou 
 
 
 The Charlie Lutes lectures are compiled in the sidebar here for scrolling 
through and reading..
 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/ http://www.maharishiphotos.com/
 They are brief.   

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What the heck was he talking about, Christ's space ship? Did he elaborate? I 
have heard he said a lot of wild stuff, but that takes the prize.
 

 

 

 From: Duveyoung 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 12:23 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:
 
 
   Just a reminder that I was about 20 feet away from Charlie when he told the 
audience that Christ's space ship would be found inside one of the great 
pyramidsin a few years.  After about 20 years I again saw him and asked him 
"what happened to the spaceship?"  He said, "I never said any such thing."  
This may be an indication that Transcendental Meditation, as understood and 
practiced by Charlie, did not, after what seems to have been a very dedicated 
and disciplined life of spirituality, make Charlie's integrity "better," OR, it 
may indicate that his lifestyle did not prevent a great memory loss.  Or?  I 
post this here where Charlie is being delightfully supported by Doug, and I 
wouldn't want any new visitors here at wonderful FairFieldLife to get off on 
the wrong start and not have at least a warning that Charlie's inexplicable 
actions could indicate that TM might even be injurious, and careful 
consideration of the years of discussion here at this forum clearly shows that 
the "jury is still out about TM" in many a regard -- especially when money is 
being required for one to learn what is typically given for free around the 
world.  Take care new visitors...if the science isn't hard, it's hardly science.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 These are great little chapters/lectures to sieve through now. Very straight 
ahead spirituality.
 Is a refreshing language from a time with a lot of heart different from some 
in-yur-head versions now.
 
 
 For instance, The Soul..
 Open it and then scroll around by title to others. They are brief. 
 

 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture54.html 
http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture54.html
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Charles F. Lutes was the first person to enroll into the Transcendental 
Meditation program offered by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the 
Continental United States in 1959. Impressed with the meditation technique he 
had received, Mr. Lutes teamed up with Maharishi and became a founding pillar 
of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement centers which later expanded into many 
branches of the Transcendental Meditation organization. He took four world 
tours with Maharishi to open hundreds of meditation centers around the world. 
In 1969 he became a teacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. 


 Mr. Lutes had gained God Consciousness enlightenment after two years of 
practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique. He was one of the most 
advanced of Maharishi’s teachers of Transcendental Meditation. Mr. Lutes was 
clairvoyant, a healer and a lecturer. He was also accomplished in many yogic 
siddhi powers.
 

 Helen Lutes In 1967, Helen studied in India with Maharishi at which time she 
became a teacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. Maharishi appointed 
Helen as the first President of his Spiritual Regeneration Movement. Helen also 
served as the Transcendental Meditation instructor for celebrities who 
preferred to keep their meditation practice confidential. 
 

 Helen Lutes was born with a high level of spiritual development. She was a 
child prodigy with an exceptionally keen understanding of human nature. She 
began the practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique with her husband, 
Charlie, in 1959. Since then Helen volunteered her time to help Maharishi 
Mahesh Yogi with his Transcendental Meditation Movement. She was an excellent 
administrator, organizing courses and managing finances. Helen also worked on 
special projects for Maharishi. It was through her efforts, working with her 
husband, that the foundation was established for the rapid expansion o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Seems to me likely that it wasn't the disputed post so much as your reactions
to his having told you he was moderating it that led him to delete your access,
including claiming he was insane (more than once) and in particular your
declaration that you would no longer read anything he posted nor reply to
it--in other words, that you did not consider yourself subject to his
moderation. Those posts of yours were made well after the "clean slate" point
of June 9.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access
to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on
supposedly "offending" posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post
#416493
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
he explicitly said:

In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution”
and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on
moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going
forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines
if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your
cooperative collaboration on this.
-JaiGuruYou!

Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and
outright dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the
possibility of me bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd
ask you to do it for me.

Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings
with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there
over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present
in the newest moderator.

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread salyavin808

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

It really won't be the same without you old chap. Our new moderator is a
dipshit vedic nazi and a partisan moron who has thrown out one of the most
innovative and dynamic posters here in his all consuming quest for uniform
blandness.

Why Rick would leave the rights to who gets to post here down to him is beyond
me, complete disinterest I suppose. But I guess that somehow we'll have to try
and compensate for the inevitable gaping hole that your absence will leave
behind.

So cheers Barry for all the laughs, insights, wisdom, book recommendations,
movie reviews and the ongoing travelogue of your life and times. If only the
people who spent all day sitting in a dome with their eyes closed had so much
to say!

TTFN and all the very, very best.

Salyavin

PS Well done Doug for being a snivelling coward and not even daring to have a
discussion about post content with Barry on here. Seems to me that every
example you found to back up your decision was very poor indeed and stood up to
about two seconds of scrutiny. But that's not the point is it? It's all about
using the guidelines to further what YOU think this place should be about.
Shame you never read the home page...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness and The Unified Field

2015-06-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I found this to be a revealing post about how Doug and I differ concerning
information and contrasting POV's here on FFL

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Dear 4U, I appreciate your taking the time to post this here. There are a
number of contributors here who often cut off discussion of this but it is nice
to have this point of view available to listen to.

Me: Only moderators have the ability to "cut off discussion" here. What you
are mislabeling
as "cutting off" is when writers like myself point out that using physics terms
as poetry outside their legitimate context is a transparent attempt to
misappropriates the rigor of physics to a field of speculation. You and I seem
to go through a very different process when we see information that is contrary
to the one we hold.

I love articles like this one. It is a great writing prompt to see where my
own intellectual edges lie. I welcome them and if I had the godlike powers you
sought out and now possess, I would never want to interfere with anyone posting
what I consider to be a cockamamie view of physics and consciousness. When you
see a person's opposing view you react as if they had "cut off" your
conversation. I guess that is a lot easier than just making your case.

I asked Larry Domash if Maharishi meant to equate the vacuum state with
consciousness or just use it as a metaphor? He giggled nervously and revealed
that this area was one of disagreement for him. What was the first thing
Hagelin did when he took over the "I am a physicist AND play one on TV for my
master" routine? He equated the Unified Field with consciousness following his
masters lead on lack of intellectual integrity.

Doug: I liked the video of Hagelin for the perspective it gives to the larger
conversation. That was helpful for insight in to what has become the usual
abbreviated put-down here when the subject of consciousness and physics
generally comes up. Thanks, -JaiGuruYou

Me: I have written much about this topic and it is far from an "abbreviated
put-down." Equating consciousness which is the product of a macro process with
the mathematical formula dependent technical physics concept of a unified field
at a completely different level of nature is intellectually dishonest (tip of
the hat to Judy) from an actual physicist like Hegelin. He knows it is bogus
but it that was the price for his movement position, his intellectual
integrity. When movement types spout physics poetry as if they understand this
level of physics I just have chalk it up to them never having the intellectual
horsepower to actually go deep enough into a field to understand that there
such a thing as expertise in a field like physics and we non physicists don't
have it.

Your post sounds suspiciously like something Buck would say. I wonder...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Consciousness and The Unified Field
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/consciousness-and-the-unified-field-and-why-this-information-is-important.html

http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/consciousness-and-the-unified-field-and-why-this-information-is-important.html

Consciousness and The Unified Field
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/consciousness-and-the-unified-field-and-why-this-information-is-important.html
Consciousness – The Unified Field What follows is a theoretical explanation of
how energies interact in our universe to create what we…

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here
so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never
enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.

In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing
to do now is to initiate a "dead pool" list of who is going to be next in the
the current purge.

1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug

2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the
pompous powers that be in the movement.

3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I
object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about
his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting
banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.)

Game on! Who will be next?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread feste37

For years, FFL was like an unweeded garden. Noxious weeds were allowed to grow
unchecked, poisoning the entire garden. Then a new gardener was appointed who
decided to clean things up. Of course, the noxious weeds do not like it. As far
as TurquoiseB's expulsion is concerned, he can have little cause for complaint,
in my opinion.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here
so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never
enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.

In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing
to do now is to initiate a "dead pool" list of who is going to be next in the
the current purge.

1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug

2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the
pompous powers that be in the movement.

Game on! Who will be next?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Our new moderator is a dipshit vedic nazi and a partisan moronDoug for being a 
snivelling coward
All insults that give grounds for your very own dismissal Sal! 
And here I thought I would be the first to go - I reckon Bucky wants to keep 
tabs on me so he will know where to direct the drones.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:44 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum 
for me?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.
 - Forwarded Message -
  From: TurquoiseBee 
 To: Alex Stanley  
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
 Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access 
to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on 
supposedly "offending" posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post 
#416493 he explicitly said:
Inmoderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state ofevolution” and 
I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and notone is on moderation 
in any way from this point. I would only suggestin our going forward that folks 
take the time to actually read theYahoo-groups guidelines if they want to 
continue fluidly posting onFFL. We should appreciate your cooperative 
collaboration on this.  -JaiGuruYou! 

Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright 
dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me 
bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it 
for me. 

Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings 
with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there 
over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present 
in the newest moderator. 

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name?  :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

It really won't be the same without you old chap. Our new moderator is a 
dipshit vedic nazi and a partisan moron who has thrown out one of the most 
innovative and dynamic posters here in his all consuming quest for uniform 
blandness.
Why Rick would leave the rights to who gets to post here down to him is beyond 
me, complete disinterest I suppose. But I guess that somehow we'll have to try 
and compensate for the inevitable gaping hole that your absence will leave 
behind.
So cheers Barry for all the laughs, insights, wisdom, book recommendations, 
movie reviews and the ongoing travelogue of your life and times. If only the 
people who spent all day sitting in a dome with their eyes closed had so much 
to say!
TTFN and all the very, very best.
Salyavin

PS Well done Doug for being a snivelling coward and not even daring to have a 
discussion about post content with Barry on here. Seems to me that every 
example you found to back up your decision was very poor indeed and stood up to 
about two seconds of scrutiny. But that's not the point is it? It's all about 
using the guidelines to further what YOU think this place should be about. 
Shame you never read the home page...

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[FairfieldLife] Dark Medieval Consciousness

2015-06-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It would appear a dark, medieval consciousness is beginning to take over 
Fairfield Life, in the likeness of the Transcendental Meditation Organisation's 
tyrannical manner.
Medieval
1. of or relating to the Middle Ages.

2. Informal, very old-fashioned or primitive.
Synonyms:  antique  archaic  feudal  Gothic  primitive  antediluvian  
antiquated  old  old-fashioned  unenlightened  antiquated  out of date  
outdated  outmoded  anachronistic  passé  obsolete  horse-and-buggy
Tyranny
3. cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control.

Synonyms:  authoritarianism  autocracy   coercion   cruelty   despotism   
domination   oligarchy   oppression   terrorism   totalitarianism   absolutism  
 fascism   high-handedness   imperiousness   monocracy   severity   totality   
peremptoriness   reign   of   terror   unreasonableness
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

2015-06-19 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Thanks, Charlie was always one of my favorite personalities in the TM movement. 
He was so *far out there* and at the same time so down to earth.  I heard a 
story about the last time he saw M. He had been waiting a long time to speak to 
M and was told it would be another couple of hours. Charlie became outraged and 
yelled back, and I'm paraphrasing, Hell! I wouldn't wait two hours to meet 
Jesus Christ! Then he stormed out. I heard that is when he was *banned*from 
seeing M again. LOL!
 From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:44 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

    These are great littlechapters/lectures to sieve through now. Very straight 
aheadspirituality.Is a refreshing language from a timewith a lot of heart 
different from some in-yur-head versions now.
For instance, The Soul..Open it and then scroll around by titleto others. They 
are brief. 
http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture54.html

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

CharlesF. Lutes wasthe first person to enroll into the Transcendental 
Meditation programoffered by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the 
ContinentalUnited States in 1959. Impressed with the meditation technique he 
hadreceived, Mr. Lutes teamed up with Maharishi and became a foundingpillar of 
the Spiritual Regeneration Movement centers which laterexpanded into many 
branches of the Transcendental Meditationorganization. He took four world tours 
with Maharishi to openhundreds of meditation centers around the world. In 1969 
he became ateacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. 

Mr.Lutes had gained God Consciousness enlightenment after two years 
ofpracticing the Transcendental Meditation technique. He was one of themost 
advanced of Maharishi’s teachers of Transcendental Meditation.Mr. Lutes was 
clairvoyant, a healer and a lecturer. He was alsoaccomplished in many yogic 
siddhi powers.
HelenLutes In1967, Helen studied in India with Maharishi at which time she 
becamea teacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. Maharishiappointed 
Helen as the first President of his Spiritual RegenerationMovement. Helen also 
served as the Transcendental Meditationinstructor for celebrities who preferred 
to keep their meditationpractice confidential.
HelenLutes wasborn with a high level of spiritual development. She was a 
childprodigy with an exceptionally keen understanding of human nature. Shebegan 
the practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique withher husband, 
Charlie, in 1959. Since then Helen volunteered her timeto help Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi with his Transcendental MeditationMovement. She was an excellent 
administrator, organizing courses andmanaging finances. Helen also worked on 
special projects forMaharishi. It was through her efforts, working with her 
husband, thatthe foundation was established for the rapid expansion of 
theTranscendental Meditation program throughout the world.

Charlie and Helen Lutes
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Helen Lutes Charlie and Helen Lutes by Vincent J. Daczynski |  |
|View on www.institutespiritual...  |   Preview by Yahoo  |
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Thanks for posting this to FFL. Incoincidence along with an interest in 
archival things someone just passed to me a recently a published copy of a 
limited edition of 108 CharlieLutes discourses. 
Charlie Lutes' was a side of the TM movement I was not broughtup in and I am 
finding his discourses now quite spiritually relevant.It seems his is where 
some lot of the movement went on to anyway insubtle practice. Certainly is the 
case in the meditating communityof Fairfield, Iowa now.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

http://www.tinyurl.com/nubhtnp
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dark Medieval Consciousness

2015-06-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 Just added to my Dead Pool list for oppositional opinion:

4. Xeno

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It would appear a dark, medieval consciousness is beginning to take over 
Fairfield Life, in the likeness of the Transcendental Meditation Organisation's 
tyrannical manner.
 

 Medieval
 

 1. of or relating to the Middle Ages.

 

 2. Informal, very old-fashioned or primitive.
 

 Synonyms:  antique  archaic  feudal  Gothic  primitive  antediluvian  
antiquated  old  old-fashioned  unenlightened  antiquated  out of date  
outdated  outmoded  anachronistic  passé  obsolete  horse-and-buggy
 

 Tyranny
 

 3. cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control.

 

 Synonyms:  authoritarianism  autocracy   coercion   cruelty   despotism   
domination   oligarchy   oppression   terrorism   totalitarianism   absolutism  
 fascism   high-handedness   imperiousness   monocracy   severity   totality   
peremptoriness   reign   of   terror   unreasonableness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rand Paul's Tax Proposal Col Leed feels its excellent & especlly the expense reductions

2015-06-19 Thread William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]

excellent

-Original Message-
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
To: FairfieldLife 
Sent: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 4:03 am
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rand Paul's Tax Proposal

It appears that there's a hidden agenda behind his proposal.  The sugar coating 
is that taxes are reduced for everybody.  But the hammer is that the government 
expenses will have to be reduced to fit the new tax income received.  What do 
you think?

Presidential candidate Rand Paul plans to 'blow up' tax code

Presidential candidate Rand Paul plans to 'blow 
up&#...  
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rand Paul called Thursday 
for a "fair and flat tax" that would "blow up" the nation's ta...

   View on news.yahoo.com  

 Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rand Paul's Tax Proposal

2015-06-19 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Isn't that how you and I live? You can only spend what you earn.
 From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rand Paul's Tax Proposal
   
    It appears that there's a hidden agenda behind his proposal.  The sugar 
coating is that taxes are reduced for everybody.  But the hammer is that the 
government expenses will have to be reduced to fit the new tax income received. 
 What do you think?
Presidential candidate Rand Paul plans to 'blow up' tax code
 
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up&#...  WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rand Paul called 
Thursday for a "fair and flat tax" that would "blow up" the nation's ta...| 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

FFL reflected Rick's open mindedness and respect for adults voicing their
opinion in dramatic contrast to the group that most of us were involved with. I
consider this latest change to be a version of FFL suicide by appointing
Buck/Doug to kill off all opposing views. Once freedom of expression is gone it
will die off as a useful place to post.

But your post makes you exempt from the FFL Dead Pool list, so there is that!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here
so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never
enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.

In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing
to do now is to initiate a "dead pool" list of who is going to be next in the
the current purge.

1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug

2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the
pompous powers that be in the movement.

Game on! Who will be next?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rand Paul's Tax Proposal Col Leed feels its excellent & especlly the expense reductions

2015-06-19 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

The problems for politicians is that they won't be able to buy votes with 
promised spending on this special interest group or that one.
 From: "William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rand Paul's Tax Proposal Col Leed feels its 
excellent & especlly the expense reductions
   
    excellent




-Original Message-
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
To: FairfieldLife 
Sent: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 4:03 am
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rand Paul's Tax Proposal

 
 
 It appears that there's a hidden agenda behind his proposal.  The sugar 
coating is that taxes are reduced for everybody.  But the hammer is that the 
government expenses will have to be reduced to fit the new tax income received. 
 What do you think? 
 Presidential candidate Rand Paul plans to 'blow up' tax code
  
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Thursday for a "fair and flat tax" that would "blow up" the nation's ta... 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Here's what perplexes me. ( and I agree with your assessment, btw).

Barry and Sal and others claim what they want, all they really want, dear God
in heaven what they want, is unfettered conversation, dialog, and content.

But, I guess it must be writtens somewhere, FFL BY DIVINE DECREE SHALL BE THE
ONLY POSTING VENUE!

Let's be honest. What Barry does (by his own admission) is push people's
buttons.

Xeno is on record saying, to effect,

"pushing buttons is noble endeavour, and the one pushing the buttons need not
even be honest in the act of pushing. Anyone taking offense to having their
buttons pushed, even if they are blatantly misrepresented, is just revealing
their own inadequacy and reactive mind."

so, why not start their own venue, (as xeno himself suggested might be the
solution)?

and, of course, we know why this would be. they'd have no satisfying targets.

and as you point out Feste, there was a time when the participants practiced
some modicum of discipline. But, really that went out the window many years
ago, which is why the forum is down to only a few active participants.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here
so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never
enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.

In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing
to do now is to initiate a "dead pool" list of who is going to be next in the
the current purge.

1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug

2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the
pompous powers that be in the movement.

Game on! Who will be next?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread feste37

I would say that opposing views are welcome here. There is room for
disagreement and argument but not an atmosphere in which insult and abuse
becomes the norm. I find it astonishing that an effort to realign this group so
that it conforms to the Yahoo! guidelines should be greeted by one recent
poster as some kind of return to medieval tyranny. No, it's just a call for
people to adopt a more civil tone with one another. The recently departed
Turquoise was, in my opinion, the principal cause of the descent of FFL into
the gutter, and now I hope it will become a more interesting and welcoming
place, with more people from Fairfield posting. The group is, after all, called
Fairfield Life. I hope you will go on posting, Curtis, because you are one of
the most interesting and articulate people here.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

But your post makes you exempt from the FFL Dead Pool list, so there is that!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here
so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never
enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.

In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing
to do now is to initiate a "dead pool" list of who is going to be next in the
the current purge.

1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug

2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the
pompous powers that be in the movement.

Game on! Who will be next?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

FFL reflected Rick's open mindedness and respect for adults voicing their
opinion in dramatic contrast to the group that most of us were involved with.

I guess, Curtis, we all have a bar, above, or below which ,we consider
respect, or disrespect..

If you consider the self described "pushing of people's buttons" solely to get
a reaction, respect, then that is where you have set the bar.

If you consider objecting to being misrepresented in a willful manner,
respect, then that's where you've set the bar.

We all get the value in discussing opposing ideas. We all get the value in
being challenged.

What some of us object to, is when the challenging, or discussing, takes a
malicious turn.

I consider this latest change to be a version of FFL suicide by appointing
Buck/Doug to kill off all opposing views. Once freedom of expression is gone it
will die off as a useful place to post.

And, again, Curtis, what is to prevent you, or others, from creating a
discussion venue tailored to the tastes and predilections of a certain group of
participants. Isn't that how it is supposed to work?

But your post makes you exempt from the FFL Dead Pool list, so there is that!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here
so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never
enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.

In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing
to do now is to initiate a "dead pool" list of who is going to be next in the
the current purge.

1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug

2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the
pompous powers that be in the movement.

Game on! Who will be next?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It is an wonderful opportunity to see how the forum can proceed, absent the
member considered to be the most abusive, at least according to some.

I would enjoy seeing some the participants who recently departed to the_peak,
return.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

But your post makes you exempt from the FFL Dead Pool list, so there is that!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here
so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never
enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.

In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing
to do now is to initiate a "dead pool" list of who is going to be next in the
the current purge.

1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug

2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the
pompous powers that be in the movement.

Game on! Who will be next?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational
 

 rationale
 

 here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never 
enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.
 

 
I suspect it was this post of June 18 that did it, in particular the part I've 
highlighted in red:
 

 

 This has really become too sad to get involved with.
 

 Rick, please do something to help Doug -- like removing him from his position 
as moderator. The responsibility and the genuine impossibility of the task have 
clearly caused him to become mentally ill. 

 

 It was entertaining for a while when he was just embarrassing himself. But now 
he's embarrassing the whole forum.
 

 Moderator or not, Doug is now officially back on my Troll List. I will no 
longer bother to read anything he says or reply to anything he posts. Like our 
recently departed member, he no longer exists. By acting this crazy, he has 
effectively -- and ironically -- deleted himself. 

 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/417032 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/417032

 

 

 Turqb took the chance that Doug wouldn't have the guts to expel him
 

 In openly defying Doug's authority as moderator, Turqb was betting Doug 
wouldn't have the guts to expel him.
 

 Turqb lost.
 

 (I'm just guessing, but I wouldn't be surprised if Doug had consulted Rick and 
received his approval to oust Turqb on the basis of the quoted post.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was
kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall
not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a
subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I
don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of
people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In
Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is
just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually
unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent.

What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here
so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never
enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.

In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing
to do now is to initiate a "dead pool" list of who is going to be next in the
the current purge.

1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug

2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the
pompous powers that be in the movement.

Game on! Who will be next?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.

- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee
To: Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)

P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

2015-06-19 Thread Duveyoung


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Taking a grain of salt I still find this archive of spiritual talks impressive 
now. I should have liked to have heard him deliver some of these for context.
 

 To those new visitors at FairFieldLife arriving, I would like to point out 
that Doug is giving Charlie Lutes an exulted status that the Transcendental 
Meditation Organization now completely disavows.  Mr. Lutes was made into a 
persona non grata DECADES AGO by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.  

In supporting the writings and talks of Mr. Lutes, Doug is going AGAINST the 
decades long TMO policy of not mentioning Charlie or anything he had done for 
the movement that was NOT what the movement wished he'd done.  For instance he 
gave regular lectures to the public that included every sort of esoteric 
concept that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi almost NEVER chose to talk about and 
actively encouraged all his followers to not dwell with lest their minds become 
beclouded with dissonance.   Charlie would talk about demons, ghosts, space 
ships and the various alien species, the Great White Brotherhood, and on and on 
and on. 

I personally believe that it would take a deer lick's worth of salt to justify 
listening or reading ANYTHING BY CHARLIE.  Otherwise one's pristine beliefs and 
clarities about the TMO's techniques and practices would become as if IMPURE, 
and this would hasten its slow descent to obscurity.

I would call upon Richard Archer to see if Doug's possible impurity obviates 
Doug's ability to be a strong representative of the TMO's sacred intents.
 
 
 Context often is everything. I been with Maharishi and heard him say things 
that then got retold by people later out in the field, even by folks who 
'heard' them, completely missing the context as things were said originally. I 
recall being there hearing Maharishi talking about kundalini awakening in the 
energy system and using a metaphor by example which people later reported 
taking literally. I was younger then and hearing things recycle like that 
became a good lesson about folks and their variability in comprehension at 
following things in context. Salt please.
 -JaiGuruYou 

And here, new visitor to FairFieldLife, we see that Doug is suggesting that I, 
as a reporter, have somehow messed up with my recall due to the passage of 
time, or my brain's ineptitude, or, perhaps, I'm am actually lying -- "we'll 
never really know" seems to be Doug's suggestion.

To this assertion I  give the most strident denial.  There is zero evidence 
that my memory is faulty in this regard, and I have peppered my writings of the 
last 30 years with a repeating of this exact memory of Charlie and the Space 
Ship.  I have discussed it with those who were also there at the time.  

THERE IS NO MEMORY PROBLEM, dear new visitors to FairFieldLife.  Charlie said 
Christ had a space ship hidden inside a pyramid. Doug would be completely wrong 
to again assert or suggest that I am not remembering correctly, and instead, 
Doug should admit that Charlie said some of the most outrageous statements that 
often disagreed with movement values and got banned for the doing, and anyone 
who truly followed Charlie and also reported this to the movement  would then 
lose the ability to be in the dome.   
 

 The Charlie Lutes lectures are compiled in the sidebar here for scrolling 
through and reading..
 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/ http://www.maharishiphotos.com/
 They are brief.   

Again, dear new FairFieldLife visitor, TAKE EXTREME CARE,  if you even scroll 
through any of Charlie's works, please report this to a responsible movement 
leader who can begin to correct your wandering eye.  Also, while there, ask 
that leader about Doug.  I don't want to gossip, so get it straight from an 
official.  

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What the heck was he talking about, Christ's space ship? Did he elaborate? I 
have heard he said a lot of wild stuff, but that takes the prize.
 

 

 

 From: Duveyoung 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 12:23 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:
 
 
   Just a reminder that I was about 20 feet away from Charlie when he told the 
audience that Christ's space ship would be found inside one of the great 
pyramidsin a few years.  After about 20 years I again saw him and asked him 
"what happened to the spaceship?"  He said, "I never said any such thing."  
This may be an indication that Transcendental Meditation, as understood and 
practiced by Charlie, did not, after what seems to have been a very dedicated 
and disciplined life of spirituality, make Charlie's integrity "better," OR, it 
may indicate that his lifestyle did not prevent a great memory loss.  Or?  I 
post this here where Charlie is being delightfully supported by Doug, and I 
wouldn't want any new visitors here at wonderful FairFieldLife to get off on 
the wrong start and not have at lea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

2015-06-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

should read,

If you consider objecting to being misrepresented, in a willful manner, some
kind of weakness, then that's where you've set the bar, for adults voicing
their opinions in a dramatic fashion.

Just for the record, none of this type of interaction plays well in the real
world. It is what is commonly referred to as "trolling"

Granted, this isn't the "real world", but, you have people participating, who,
would appear, to have some degree of spiritual awareness, which many would
equate with a (at least somewhat) higher standard of interaction.