[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
I met Mark Landau while he was with Maharishi and got to know more of him through subsequent personal correspondence and posts he made here and on his own website and in direct mailings He wrote to me of Maharishi sandals some while ago and I was intrigued as I remembered them well. I once had to massage Maharishi's blue feet after he had stood too long in the snow watching the Bluchers ski near Wiesensteig, where a few of us were holed up with him while he worked on "The Science of Being". A few comments are in order. Maharishi was a remarkable person, with great bouncing energy and enviable vibrations. None of the revelations about his private life can alter that. He was not a light weight and achieved more in his life than many. Of course his sandals will hold some of that vibration. Sri Aurobindo, whose ashram at Pondicherry I visited, would have stated that the larger truth often contains `irreconcilable facets' in a paradox. It is lasting shame we were never able to hear Maharishi discuss his own situation as it might have shed light on problems we have with sex, power and money. As a keen Wagnerian I was delighted with a slim book "Wagner the terrible man, and his truthful Art." In it he espoused the thesis that Wagner, like all great artists wrote from his wounded soul and tried in his art to integrate and reconcile what he was unable to do in his own life. His art thus sheds light on problems we have and in a way that helps us to find some measure of wholeness, if that is what we are seeking. If that is you, you probably love Wagner. If not you might well hate his operas. It is well possible that out of Maharishi's own needs came his remarkable attempts to unify life in Satchidananda. He was certainly the happiest person I have ever met and the fact that he fell short of an idealised perfection can't change that perception. One could love him and still wish to remain far away from his organization. I see no difficulty in admiring and despising a person at one and the same time and for different reasons, or if despise is too strong, then loving him with his failings. I think that is the mark of true love as opposed to the blind and needy devotion of those who made a guru of Maharishi. I never needed to so am able to still think fondly and gratefully of him. Despite all we now know. In fact because of what we now know feel regret I was unable to hear him talk as a person with struggles and personal hopes. It could be maintained that the need to spout one's opinions is the very thing that will keep one unenlightened, whatever that actually means. Some people on this site can be mean, petty and remarkably opinionated and excessively loquacious on all possible topics, forming instant opinions at the drop of a written word, without the excuse that they are the long held cherished biases that form so much of each of us. Love, David
[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Bitching
I am wondering whether Rick wouldn't like to start a new site called Fairfield Life Bitching for those who wear their egos on their sleeves and like to snipe at each other. Often a good series of posts begin around a spiritual experience or idea and soon the usual suspects start in on each other and instead of having a decent discussion one finds oneself mired in repartees and point scoring. Sometimes this is amusing but if short of time rather irritating and lowers the tone of what is supposed to be an exploration of spiritual ideas. When posts become personal you could just write "I am dumping on" give name and direct interested folk to the Bitching Site. I think this would allow others to read better motivated material. The Bitching site might become popular. It can amusing to read repartee but only if one has the time; like forwarded jokes!. Also I think some people should write each other directly. Mark's post got excessive long replies from someone, replies that made me ask obvious questions but avoiding the personal didn't and frankly were in the nature of raves that should have gone to Mark directly rather than hogging so much space. And while griping can't people delete all the posts before they make their own. David.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oldies but goldies?
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[FairfieldLife] Kidnapped
Have others of you received this or know about it? I wrote Conny to ask him what he knew but as yet have had no reply. I was concerned about a possible virus but my interest being pricked copied and pasted the links and a quick glance at one of them showed nothing of TM adepts being involved. David Hello Our french delegation has a father with her daughter kidnapped by french Montpellier and Luxemburg's adepts of TM. Could you please assist us with recent news about TM please? French infos? Yours parentally, Rick for the Parental Network Europe Article about this sad story <http://reseau-parental.blogspot.com/2011/03/andre-appelle-laide-pour-retrouver-sa.html> Our blog in english <http://europarental.blogspot.com> Our social network <http://www.facebook.com/Europarental> Conny Larsson wrote: > Dear Friends! > My former teacher Maharishi... > Conny Larsson > - Original Message - > From: "Ole Alstrup" > To: co...@email.com > Subject: Maharishi > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:53:16 +0100
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa Sunset
Peaceful and lovely music! D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > http://youtu.be/C0k1903EUss >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Euripides' The Bacchae
re link What a weird practice! Thanks. D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > > RD -- Burn specialist! > > > > Ooooph, glad you've never skewered me. > > > > Edg > > > > http://youtu.be/qlmGGVQeU4E > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > > > > > Raunchy, you are the funniest, most intelligent, compassionate person I > > > don't personally know. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: raunchydog > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:06 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Euripides' The Bacchae > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD's behind-sight interpretation of Robin's Aphorisms: > > > > > > Robin: We are as brave as our willingness to experience as much truth as > > > will hurt us into changing ourselves. > > > > > > RD: If the truth hurts, torture works.  > > > > > > Robin: One thing is certain: at some point in our individual existence we > > > shall meet a perfect being. > > > > > > RD: Only death is certain. Meet the perfect hottie after you're dead. > > > Bummer. > > > > > > Robin: If you want to say something you think is true, you must say it > > > through the totality of who you are. > > > > > > RD: It's totally true. I'm like totally into my totality. > > >  > > > Robin: Someone who praises us, or defends us, who speaks up for us--this > > > means nothing to us unless we sense they know us as we know ourselves. > > > > > > RD: Even nonsense makes sense when we sense sense.  > > >  > > > Robin: The good angels will among other things never know how good a cup > > > of coffee tastes. > > > > > > RD: Angels have lousy taste. That's why they hire human interior > > > decorators. > > >  > > > Robin: If you understand death the way it really is, it is, in the case > > > of every human being, a perfectly unnatural thing. > > > > > > RD: If you know about being dead, it's unnatural. > > >  > > > Robin: Oneness has become the greatest metaphysical cliche there ever was. > > >  > > > RD: "Dear great Pumpkin, Everyone tells me you are a fake, but I believe > > > in you. P.S.: If you really are a fake, don't tell me. I don't wanna > > > know." Linus. > > > > > > Robin: No one has ever complained about anything once they have died. > > > Even, as is the case: they continue to exist. > > > > > > RD: If dead people could speak they would complain about being dead. > > > Bummer. > > > > > > Robin: The closest a man and a woman can come together is when they > > > realize there is a sphere of communion that transcends gender. Then are > > > true lovers. > > > > > > RD: Transgendered lovers? Fascinating. > > > > > > Robin: It doesn't matter how hateful, cruel, miserable someone is--just > > > as long as their experience is: I can do nothing about this. > > > > > > RD: Seriously, Robin, I think this the most significant bon mot on your > > > list. "I can do nothing about this," recognizes the effect of one's > > > actions on others. It is a moment of surrender to the truth of oneself. > > > Until this happens change is impossible.   > > > > > > Robin: When you say something or write something and all the feedback > > > you get comes from within yourself and from nowhere else, your isolation > > > tells you you are not exactly making yourself sweet to reality. > > > > > > RD: Make yourself sugar-sweet to reality or take your lumps.   > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: What will happen on 21 December 2012 the end of the Mayan calendar?
Thanks for this link. I liked seeing his kindly face. Mr Crème, not too bad at fantasy himself, seems to have hit it well on the head this time. All the same I am laying in generator petrol to help run things, just in case!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 12 12 12 from Batgap squared
I've just begun listening to this. Similarly to Creme. An ordinary day but full with opportunity. D http://sn113w.snt113.mail.live.com/default.aspx#n=67171490&fid=1&fav=1&mid=0e420a92-43fe-11e2-8eb2-00237de49116&fv=1 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > This was posted on Batgap forum yesterday: > > > This came up in a comment on one of the Batgap interviews: > > Just relating this - take it however you care to...but I've been hearing > from different sources that tonight is the beginning of the higher > vibration of Light on the planet..and that all who open toward it will > experience a profound opening of the heart...Movement in the other > direction - of resistance to what is - will lead to anger and > frustration..It's a choice..They said it was especially good to meditate > or be in the Silence from now through the 24th..and let go into > Love. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 12 12 12 from Batgap squared
I should add that dipping into cosmology as I have been doing recently and the unplanned play of energies it depicts I don't buy into these astrological predictions at all. Life will blunder on and become only what we decide to make of it. We yearn to move towards goals and find it difficult to accept there isn't one but just life where we are at the present. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "David" wrote: > > I've just begun listening to this. Similarly to Creme. An ordinary day but > full with opportunity. > D >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 12 12 12 from Batgap squared
I hope this works. D http://sn113w.snt113.mail.live.com/default.aspx#n=67171490&fid=1&fav=1&mid=0e420a92-43fe-11e2-8eb2-00237de49116&fv=1 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "David" wrote: > > > > > > I've just begun listening to this. Similarly to Creme. An ordinary day > > > but full with opportunity. > > > D > > Do you have a link that works ? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 12 12 12 from Batgap squared
This is the name of the film. I got a link in an e mail 2012 Crossing Over, A New Beginning OFFICIAL FILM [Brave Archer Films®] Hotmail Active View 2012 Crossing Over, A New Beginning OFFICIAL FILM [Brave Archer Films®] Play video 'A World of Love is Coming!' This is the OFFICIAL RELEASE of the Full Length Documentary film '2012 Crossing Over, A New Beginning' a film written, directed, filmed, edited and entirely independently 01:44:04 Added on 02/12/2012 185,437 views
[FairfieldLife] Re: 12 12 12 from Batgap squared
If I had your e address I could forward the e mail which has the film in it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 12 12 12 from Batgap squared
I think there is some truth in the view that by giving ourselves a goal we deny ourselves the present, ergo if you give that up you are left with the present. By goals I mean especially things such as enlightenment. Liberation is not caring a fig for that. We can spend ages trying to get better, and it remains always in the future. Meditation is a lovely experience but I am not convinced it transforms because seeking transformation implies not liking the present. It is rather like Tai Chi you have to make great effort but the final stage is effortlessness which really means surrendering to your own naturalness. The completely natural has surrendered, all that is left is that which moves. When you see the immense energy and vastness of the Universe and know that in the beginning Nothing split into gravity and matter and we you add gravity back to matter it becomes Nothing again. It has all gone on unplanned and yet so beautifully. I have an essay on my website about this. http://esotericarts.org/essays_page_5.html#ReflectionsOnCosmology Having opinions is a great way to separation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no God.
That was terrific. Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL4dXUtblg >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The seduction of the beautiful
lovely! Thanks. David --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Ladies You just wish you could be seduced like this: > > Don Giovanni La ci darem la mano > > Sung by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZHwbxLBO0 > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZHwbxLBO0> >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arunachala Dhyanam
Thanks. I stayed there for a few days in 1970. David --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > click on: > > http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/videosflv/aruna_dhyanam.html >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharshi gives Shaktipat to Ganapathi Muni at a distance
lovely story. Thank you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Review: The Girls With The Dragon Tattoos
Noomi was excellent as Salander. Very memorable. In the Sherlock film she was much the same so I wonder if she was simply well cast as Salander and can only play herself. A lot of actors are like this they act as themselves and if that suits the film wonderful. eg John Malkovich seems always the same to me. Woody Allen, Larry David etc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Review: The Girls With The Dragon Tattoos
I read all the books long ago. Very gripping. If you liked them you would enjoy Deon Meyer a Cape Town writer who also creates great characters. Salander is such a fascinating, captivating person a wonderful character invention so when discussing her it is sad to admit she couldn't have been real and therefore one can't seriously debate her. Smoking so much, eating so badly (as Noomi mentions in the worthy while special features) how could she have been so tough and fit? She is scarred and suspicious from the abuse but as she is still capable of warmth and empathy eg towards her previous custodian for whom, she provides at great cost rehabilitation. She can also be very sexually intimate. Autism is an unlikely definition for her. More like someone who life has made a loner. An angry attitude who feels her extraordinary mental abilities get her defined as a freak so that when Blomkwist remarks on her photographic memory she becomes furious with him as she suspects he sees her abnormal. It is sad there won't be another book with her in it. Someone like her was needed to sort out Larson's wretched estranged father and brother who got all the money from his estate. The boxer in the Swedish version was, in fact, the very person Larson wrote about and had to pass a screen test to play himself! I found the new films sound difficult and kept turning up my hearing aids. I thought the slight Swedish accents were good something that only real actors could pull off. I also liked Christopher Plummer, but that could be my Canadian bias! However with the bigger budget the colour was great.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
I am always surprised when I read such rude and discourteous posts here. There must have been something lacking in your upbringing. It is not too late to remedy that. Courtesy is an admirable quality. Then you can add compassion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) > >
[FairfieldLife] Too-Much-Fun!
I'm so glad that this TMF group popped-up last week on the Buddhist site. I love reading the juicy chatter about even banal topics because it fun-colors us TM'ers as only 'Humans', after all...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The text editor designed for writing to TMers
Such a good idea & actual program! Also a great way to handle writing to youngsters who still have a limited vocabulary... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > It's what you've always wanted, a text editor that dumbs what you're > trying to say down to the max by restricting you to the 1,000 most > common words in the English language (really "ten hundred" if I were > writing this using the editor). > > http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/culturelab/2013/01/up-goer-five.html? > > > > To show how this would be useful when communicating to TMers who want to > believe that if you dumb something down enough that they can understand > it they actually understand it, here's the editor describing string > theory... :-) > > "Things are made of small bits. Some of the bits are made of even > smaller bits. There are many different kinds of bits. Even light is made > of very small bits flying very fast. If we look carefully at the > smallest kinds of bits they look like little points. But we don't > really know if this is true, because the bits are very small and it is > hard to look at things that are so small. > It turns out that we know how to make most things out of point-bits, > but one thing is hard. We know everything falls down or actually > everything always falls towards everything else. The force that does > this is hard to make out of little point-bits if we try to do this > we get too many little point-bits flying around. There is one way to > fix it: we realize that the little bits are actually not points but > long things! The long things are wrapped tight and it is hard to see > them because they are so small and a very small wrapped long thing > looks just like a point. > > But then the long things make fun things happen. The force that makes > things fall comes out! Wow! And all kinds of other things too! In fact > all the different kinds of bits that we see come from just one kind of > wrapped long thing moving in different ways. This is great! One idea > explains many different things and so we are happy. There are some > little problems still but we are working hard and it is possible that > everything around us in space, near by, all of it can be > understood from one simple idea of wrapped long things." >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI
Thanks for this link! Amazing! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDBrdl2sZWs > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: French commune home to 20,000 "doomsday cultists" awaiting alien salvation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > . > > But Bugarach ? Never heard of the place. I thought he was a musician. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain
Yes very rue. I was there. > I have some friends who were there in India once when Maharishi brought Tat > Walla Baba over for a talk, they tell the story that a course participant > then asked the question of Tat Walla Baba, if he slept? Maharisihi > translated the question and there were peels of laughter from both Maharishi > and Tat Walla Baba and apparently Tat Walla Baba had said in reply, "What > would the world do if I slept?" > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > > > > > > > Huh?  I'm so blown away by this clip...can you believe "we" used to > > > > watch that?  The brain is insane.  Incredible.  Now, what was your > > > > point?  RIP Farrah.  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: obbajeeba > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:24 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 22, 2012, at 6:51 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > And given that, where's the effort? Worrying about effort is > > > > > > > futile. TM practice takes advantage of the mind's natural > > > > > > > tendency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for you remembering is not the mind�s natural tendency? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mind's natural tendency is to become aware of what is most > > > > > pleasing... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > L. > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJTBs24szWo > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The invention of "rounding"
In 1962 in Hochgurgl we had an Icelander who went very odd, kept clearing his throat and spitting, sat in from of MMY and ate the fruit that had been offered. Maharishi gave him a task to walk outside and find 108 pebbles all the same size and colour. In'69 in Rishikesh some people tied themselves into their chairs so they wouldn't fall out if they fell asleep and `meditated'for 16 hours straight. In the early days yoga postures were limited, eventually they became as lengthy as the meditation. I heard of meditators who barked like dogs in group meditation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > OK, as an example of Maharishi improvising his way through > things, I found myself trying to remember today when the > idea of "rounding" came up. For those of you who don't > know, that's -- in an in-residence course retreat setting > -- meditating more than your normal 20 minutes twice a > day, sometimes for much longer, and interspersing the > periods of meditation with yoga asanas. > > This was not always the "given" that many people here seem > to think it was. On the early India teacher training courses, > Maharishi just sent people to their rooms and told them to > meditate for as long as they wanted to. The results were... > uh...challenging. While some grooved behind it, others > went bat shit crazy. > > A fellow I knew who was on one of the India courses told > me the story of the monkey infestation, and how that was > dealt with by one of the other course participants. It seems > (according to this story) that the Rishikesh ashram had been > built in the migration path of a certain genus of monkey, > and so at least twice a year it was overrun by them. One > guy, about 8 hours into his latest meditation, suddenly > grew tired of the sound of them running across his roof > and decided that it was his holy dharma to kill the latest > offender. So he chased that monkey through the jungle with > a rock for the next eight hours, until some people finally > found him and brought him back home. > > As I understand it, no actual monkeys were harmed during > the enactment of this story, dharmically or adharmically. > But I stand on my earlier use of the phrase "bat shit crazy." > > Anyway, soon after this Maharishi decided that something > needed to be done to prevent this. So he invented "rounding," > which seems to have kept most of these bat shit crazy incidents > from happening. Most of them. > > But WHEN did he first introduce "rounding" on residence > courses or teacher training courses? I have a vague memory > of it not appearing at the beginning of the 1967 Squaw > Valley course but sometime later in it. Then again, I may > have just missed it in the first week of Squaw Valley. > Maharishi could have introduced it at Estes Park, but I > don't know because I wasn't there. > > Anybody got an authoritative answer, or at the very least > one from your own experience? Thanks in advance... >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The invention of "rounding"
There is nothing wrong with Maharishi's ability and need to adapt and innovate as he discovered what sort of people lived in the West. The sadness is that so many of the steps he took took him further and further away from the homely simple formula of meditate twice a day and do what you like. Those who embraced that and nothing more probably benefitted enormously. The desperately seeking who wanted to be told what to do, who desired a guru met someone who was happy to give proscriptions and prescriptions, someone who gave in to bizarre impulses till the Movement became the overblown silly nothing it did. All very sad. ---
[FairfieldLife] Re: The invention of "rounding"
That's good. The more people meditating the better! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > Eh, the DLF has sponsored TM instruction for about 1/2 million kids and there > is a waiting list of 1 million kids to learn TM in the city of Rio de > Janeiro, all by itself. > > > Overblown? Silly? > > Sure, but that doesn't mean that there isn't validity in even the silliest, > most-overblown aspects. > > L. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Weepy Wednesday
yes indeed tears! love, D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > because this little story brought tears to my eyes > > > http://www.wimp.com/gloryshot/ >
[FairfieldLife] Muhurta for Huggins Dental Realignment?
Hello Everybody! Please could someone tell me how to find an ideal Muhurta to have my dental work done? I have lots of mercury fillings and root canals and so on to get sorted out, and my health is not very good, so I want to find a time when I have the best chance of a good recovery. It seems that having this work done is quite a trauma, and also a very delicate business, so doing it at an auspiscious time may be vital to a successful outcome. I would be grateful for help from the wise people of the group. Thanks David
Re: [FairfieldLife] Thoughtful article/book about Hell
That is an interesting article. Though I don't agree with all that he says, Pope John Paul II gave a talk on hell that seemed to me to address the issue of hell in a more meaningful way, going beyond the fire and brimstone message, and treating hell as more a state of consciousnes s (cutting off the ability to affect the status of hell on physical death ), which surprised me enough to remember it this long after it was reported . In a talk quoted on the Vatican site (at www.vatican.va/.../ john _ paul _ ii /.../hf_jp- ii _aud_28071999_en.html .) , he said: "The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy. This is how the Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes the truths of faith on this subject: “To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called ‘hell’” (n. 1033). “Eternal damnation”, therefore, is not attributed to God's initiative because in his merciful love he can only desire the salvation of the beings he created. In reality, it is the creature who closes himself to his love. Damnation consists precisely in definitive separation from God, freely chosen by the human person and confirmed with death that seals his choice for ever. God’s judgement ratifies this state." Dave Lawson - Or iginal Message - From: "TurquoiseB" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:09:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Thoughtful article/book about Hell I'm always amused when Nabby or someone else here invokes the spectre of "going to Hell" as the inevitable or proper punishment for something one of the people they disagree with is doing, saying, or thinking. The amusing part for me is not that they're repeating this Hell meme like mindless dogmabots, but that like mindless dogmabots they've never really *thought through* the philosophical ramifications of Hell itself. If it exists, doesn't that mean that God is *into* eternal punishment and the inevitability of evil, eternally? Doesn't it mean that the notion of the compassionate God is total bullshit? If He is ready to consign someone to Hell for eternity, that's just not my idea of compassion. Here's an article by a woman who has not been afraid to think about the Hell meme critically, and write about what a belief in Hell implies about those who believe in it. The Problem with Hell by Sharon L. Baker When I was 26, I found out I was going to hell. Young, impressionable, and without a strong faith, I listened intently as the pastor of a church I was visiting described in graphic detail the tortuous, unquenchable flames that would burn human bodies forever and ever. He spoke of worms eating away at decaying flesh, total darkness without the presence of God, and worst of all, no release from those horrors for all eternity. I certainly didn't want to be one of those unfortunate many to feel the flames licking at my feet soon after leaving life in this world. So I took out the proper fire insurance and asked Jesus to save me from my sins and, therefore, from eternal torment in hell. Whew! That was 25 years ago, and hell is still a hot topic. Hell haunts me deep down inside, where I fear to tread and fail to admit uncertainty lest ripples of doubt disturb my secure little world of faith, lest someone find out and think me less Christian and more heretic. I have no intention of doing away with hell. I can't -- certain verses in the Bible won't allow me to do that. So I am very concerned about remaining faithful to the Christian scriptures; but I'm even more concerned about remaining faithful to the God of love, who loves the worst of the worst, the world's enemies, including, even, the Hitlers, the Idi Amins, and the Osama bin Ladens of the world. Our traditional views of hell as a place of eternal punishment where unbelievers dwell in undying flames contradict the image of God as merciful, forgiving, and compassionate. Our traditional focus on hell as an evangelistic tool does not genuinely communicate the very heart of the gospel. If we receive Jesus as Savior merely because we want to avoid hell, we miss the entire point. I am also very disturbed by the behavior of those who claim kinship with God through Jesus, who for centuries have instigated and participated in horrendous violence in the name of God. To stem the tide of religious violence in the world, we must offer an alternative image of God that more closely resembles the teachings and life of Jesus of Nazareth. If we do not hear the call of the
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM only to 'Survive'
When I talked to John, last night, he said he left to pursue other interests. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:03 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM only to 'Survive' From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM only to 'Survive' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of wle...@... > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:55 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM only to 'Survive' > > > Knees are still being cut resignation of the Freshman's men's Dean of men > just 2 weeks ago, or so. > > Whom I interviewed on my show. I think he was forced to resign. I hope his > being on my show didn't have anything to do with it. Like, who are we talking about? The first comment doesn't make any sense at all (at least to me), and the second comment doesn't clarify anything either. John Speer. http://batgap.com/john-speer/ A friend just told me that his having been on my show was "the last straw", so they asked him to resign. I guess he was too open-minded.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield
Test (posting) From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:11 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 10:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield Different story. A friend here re-tells hearing Charlie Lutes getting a phone call from a despondent friend threatening suicide. Charlie tells him "Before you do that, let me tell you what is going to happen". "With our bodies gone the soul has no buffer but for the raw suffering and pain it is experiencing". (picture of hell) "You could do that, its an option" The advantage of a human body is that it buffers pain & suffering. Without a body & nervous system the soul is exposed to the totality of the pain and suffering." etc. The caller reconsidered. I always wondered why everyone took Charlie Lutes so seriously. He could read an esoteric book as well as the next guy, and was better than most at regurgitating the information. I once had an argument with a guy who had insisted that Charlie was enlightened because he had been meditating for 15 years.
[FairfieldLife] please remove from e-mail list
The chatter is interesting, but too much stuffing...
[FairfieldLife] Yer chatter is bulging my Inbox!
Kyho, Iowans!
I keep thinking to get off this chatter-group, but only for the unexpected
volume of messaging. there are plenty of interesting topics to help get a
wider perception of what You Folks are pondering out there. And just curious,
are there good career-opportunities in FF for aging "executive-governors"?
Finally grok-ing some of the diverse spiritual development advice & practices
i've endured or enjoyed, i might be a good candidate for any quiet,
guidance-oriented opening in Fairfield, or environs.
As a registered craniosacral therapist, i figure that You All, like everybody,
could use some quiet, extended-touch sessions. Using a fluidbody paradigme
with an acquired, nature-oriented attention-span, my experiences as a
recipient, and as a practitioner, seem alot like that described as the old
Catharic rite of "Consolament". Reportedly the sacrament of spiritual baptism,
it is described as an arcane method of human hand-touch ("imposition of hands")
which helps to prepare recipients to confront the Great Mystery. It was
advised for the clergy, often requested by dying Cathars, and especially by
those expecting torture and immolation for heresy at the 'hands' of
christian-mercenaries during the 1190 - 1220 CE Albigensian (first internal)
Crusade conducted in Southern France, by the Roman Church.
Cathars and others sought Consolamentum to rehearse the experience infusion of
Spirit and 'body-dropping'. For myself, vivid Hubble-like perceptions of a
Pleroma of un-winking stars; visceral cotton-lightness; endless radiant space;
etc, all give confidence to advise looking closer into the BCST paradigme.
And maybe try some sessions. They could help Us All settle deeply into silent
and soothing somatic tempos -- just like when we were tiny, embryonic, aquatic
prenates...
Re: [FairfieldLife] (Ouch...) Alex--this is spam!
Oops, in trouble again. I wuz just writing an intro to a seemingly inclusive
group...
--- On Wed, 2/20/13, authfriend wrote:
From: authfriend
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alex--this is spam (was Re: Yer chatter is bulging my
Inbox!)
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 6:32 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, david allen wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kyho, Iowans!
>
> I keep thinking to get off this chatter-group, but only for the unexpected
> volume of messaging. there are plenty of interesting topics to help get a
> wider perception of what You Folks are pondering out there. And just
> curious, are there good career-opportunities in FF for aging
> "executive-governors"? Finally grok-ing some of the diverse spiritual
> development advice & practices i've endured or enjoyed, i might be a good
> candidate for any quiet, guidance-oriented opening in Fairfield, or environs.
>
>
> As a registered craniosacral therapist, i figure that You All, like
> everybody, could use some quiet, extended-touch sessions. Using a fluidbody
> paradigme with an acquired, nature-oriented attention-span, my experiences as
> a recipient, and as a practitioner, seem alot like that described as the old
> Catharic rite of "Consolament". Reportedly the sacrament of spiritual
> baptism, it is described as an arcane method of human hand-touch ("imposition
> of hands") which helps to prepare recipients to confront the Great Mystery.
> It was advised for the clergy, often requested by dying Cathars, and
> especially by those expecting torture and immolation for heresy at the
> 'hands' of christian-mercenaries during the 1190 - 1220 CE Albigensian (first
> internal) Crusade conducted in Southern France, by the Roman Church.
>
> Cathars and others sought Consolamentum to rehearse the experience infusion
> of Spirit and 'body-dropping'. For myself, vivid Hubble-like perceptions of
> a Pleroma of un-winking stars; visceral cotton-lightness; endless radiant
> space; etc, all give confidence to advise looking closer into the BCST
> paradigme. And maybe try some sessions. They could help Us All settle
> deeply into silent and soothing somatic tempos -- just like when we were
> tiny, embryonic, aquatic prenates...
>
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yer chatter
Howdy back, Buck!
Yes i wuz a 'TM stormtrooper' ("Initiations by hook or by crook!") in N.
America before the 108 group was invented. Back then, things were pretty much
decided by regional coordinators. Unfortunately, there was no
complaint-department, no ombuds-type persons, nor initiator's-union to address
grievances.
One recurring gripe was simply about getting advanced course-acceptance in
time to catch our dam' travel arrangements. We had operated local residence
courses for years, no problem. Center staffers were prompt and always nice
with applicants, so they kept coming to courses -- it was easy and fun. Then
a couple of 'Siddhas' arrived from Switzerland to take-over the center. After
alienating most of the 'strong' meditators, and generally screwing things-up,
they disappeared back to Europe. Our invincible-center closed shortly
afterwards. Bye bye, boys...
Surely by now, two-way communication channels are well-established and help
with problems faced by teachers and administrators in the field. Recalling
all this stuff today, I also remember that we didn't touch others very often.
Now, research is showing that friendly human contact helps develop empathy in
people. Geeze, we could've used more of that...
--- On Thu, 2/21/13, Buck wrote:
From: Buck
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yer chatter is bulging my Inbox!
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013, 11:50 AM
Executive TM Governor? Were you an executive Gov back in Switzerland, Holland
or North America? Do you go back to the days of 108's?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, david allen wrote:
>
>
>
> Kyho, Iowans!
>
> I keep thinking to get off this chatter-group, but only for the unexpected
> volume of messaging. there are plenty of interesting topics to help get a
> wider perception of what You Folks are pondering out there. And just
> curious, are there good career-opportunities in FF for aging
> "executive-governors"? Finally grok-ing some of the diverse spiritual
> development advice & practices i've endured or enjoyed, i might be a good
> candidate for any quiet, guidance-oriented opening in Fairfield, or environs.
>
>
> As a registered craniosacral therapist, i figure that You All, like
> everybody, could use some quiet, extended-touch sessions. Using a fluidbody
> paradigme with an acquired, nature-oriented attention-span, my experiences as
> a recipient, and as a practitioner, seem alot like that described as the old
> Catharic rite of "Consolament". Reportedly the sacrament of spiritual
> baptism, it is described as an arcane method of human hand-touch ("imposition
> of hands") which helps to prepare recipients to confront the Great Mystery.
> It was advised for the clergy, often requested by dying Cathars, and
> especially by those expecting torture and immolation for heresy at the
> 'hands' of christian-mercenaries during the 1190 - 1220 CE Albigensian (first
> internal) Crusade conducted in Southern France, by the Roman Church.
>
> Cathars and others sought Consolamentum to rehearse the experience infusion
> of Spirit and 'body-dropping'. For myself, vivid Hubble-like perceptions of
> a Pleroma of un-winking stars; visceral cotton-lightness; endless radiant
> space; etc, all give confidence to advise looking closer into the BCST
> paradigme. And maybe try some sessions. They could help Us All settle
> deeply into silent and soothing somatic tempos -- just like when we were
> tiny, embryonic, aquatic prenates...
>
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yer chatter
Hi Michael! We were tucked-away in Central & South Florida, usA. I still
figure that TM-ism should've waited until someone(s) could actually hop into a
hover-pattern before predicting anything about suspension of gravity, etc. The
whole siddhi-thing could've been kept as a 'secret project' in ordedr to get
maximum media exposure! For years, we were koo-koo about super-powers...
--- On Fri, 2/22/13, Michael Jackson wrote:
From: Michael Jackson
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yer chatter
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Cc: "dave dukely"
Date: Friday, February 22, 2013, 2:39 PM
what part of the country was that in?
From: david allen
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Cc: dave dukely
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yer chatter
Howdy back, Buck!
Yes i wuz a 'TM stormtrooper' ("Initiations by hook or by crook!") in N.
America before the 108 group was invented. Back then, things were pretty much
decided by regional coordinators. Unfortunately, there was no
complaint-department, no ombuds-type persons, nor initiator's-union to address
grievances.
One recurring gripe was simply about getting advanced course-acceptance in
time to catch our dam' travel arrangements. We had operated local residence
courses for years, no problem. Center staffers were prompt and always nice
with applicants, so they kept coming to courses -- it was easy and fun. Then
a couple of 'Siddhas' arrived from Switzerland to take-over the center. After
alienating most of the 'strong' meditators, and generally screwing things-up,
they disappeared back to Europe. Our invincible-center closed shortly
afterwards. Bye bye, boys...
Surely by now, two-way communication channels are well-established and help
with problems faced by teachers and administrators in the field. Recalling
all this stuff today, I also remember that we didn't touch others very often.
Now, research is showing that friendly human contact helps develop empathy in
people. Geeze, we could've used more of that...
--- On Thu, 2/21/13, Buck wrote:
From: Buck
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yer chatter is bulging my Inbox!
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013, 11:50 AM
Executive TM Governor? Were you an executive Gov back in Switzerland, Holland
or North America? Do you go back to the days of 108's?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, david allen wrote:
>
>
>
> Kyho, Iowans!
>
> I keep thinking to get off this chatter-group, but only for the unexpected
> volume of messaging. there are plenty of interesting topics to help get a
> wider perception of what You Folks are pondering out there. And just
> curious, are there good career-opportunities in FF for aging
> "executive-governors"? Finally grok-ing some of the diverse spiritual
> development advice & practices i've endured or enjoyed, i might be a good
> candidate for any quiet, guidance-oriented opening in Fairfield, or environs.
>
>
> As a registered craniosacral therapist, i figure that You All, like
> everybody, could use some quiet, extended-touch sessions. Using a fluidbody
> paradigme with an acquired, nature-oriented attention-span, my experiences as
> a recipient, and as a practitioner, seem alot like that described as the old
> Catharic rite of "Consolament". Reportedly the sacrament of spiritual
> baptism, it is described as an arcane method of human hand-touch ("imposition
> of hands") which helps to prepare recipients to confront the Great Mystery.
> It was advised for the clergy, often requested by dying Cathars, and
> especially by those expecting torture and immolation for heresy at the
> 'hands' of christian-mercenaries during the 1190 - 1220 CE Albigensian (first
> internal) Crusade conducted in Southern France, by the Roman Church.
>
> Cathars and others sought Consolamentum to rehearse the experience infusion
> of Spirit and 'body-dropping'. For myself, vivid Hubble-like perceptions of
> a Pleroma of un-winking stars; visceral cotton-lightness; endless radiant
> space; etc, all give confidence to advise looking closer into the BCST
> paradigme. And maybe try some sessions. They could help Us All settle
> deeply into silent and soothing somatic tempos -- just like when we were
> tiny, embryonic, aquatic prenates...
>
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ouch; HST Spam (?) & 'welcoming committee' advice.
Back at Ya, Folks, but I had no idea this Group was so fragile. Enjoyed the spunky replies, but don't think I'll get to all that reading (who's Robin?). In time, you may start to like someone who knows beta-carrotene from beta-carbolines! Plus, I may come out your way to share images sent back from the Hubble Space Telescope, among others. New converts to Hubble-ism are swelling the ranks, with over 500,000 viewing the HST Deep Space segment on U-tube. U-too? And way-back then, "executive" governors had initiated over 500 people. I even went to MIU for a few semesters of core courses -- tough academics with smart students. Anyone remember a pod-band called, "The Nasty Tendancy"? --- On Thu, 2/21/13, Ann wrote: From: Ann Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: (Ouch...) Alex--this is spam! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013, 11:40 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > > http://www.popmodal.com/video/1397/Idiocracy--Justice#v > http://www.popmodal.com/video/1397/Idiocracy--Justice#v> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > Ah hem. This hee-yar is the welcoming committee. > > For further reference to rules hee-yar, "Okie migrants and Federal > camps", read, The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck, page 345 and then > some. You git to known some folks and "the ladies in the sanitary unit > number 4," and Navashok is like "Jessie," "the Chair." > > But they's switch off weekly. > > Soft porn is okay in written word, (that's why Navashok is in charge > of that, she knows when things are getting way outta hand and will call > you on it. Cranial pressure stuffs, we gots lot's of that round hee-yar. > Touchless is preferable, that way it stays in the soft porn category and > we gots no dancin or play actin either. The devil comes if...well, talk > to the Turq about that! > > Jyotish as Ann mentioned in another post is good too. I hardly know how to spell it let alone suggest it might be good. Anyone want to do my chart? That is why soft > porn is allowed, when peoples starts cuts and pastin slokas from > Parasara Hora Shastra about ladies bodies parts and what is auspicious > or not in very graphic detail, if I say so, except for the legs like > banana trees, then it is cute and that is auspicious according to > Parasara. :) > > Welcome from my side at least! > > Tell us about your pressure reducing practice and what your day job > is? > > -Obbajeeba > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, david allen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Oops, in trouble again.  I wuz just writing an intro > to a seemingly inclusive group... > > > > > > This is an exclusive group. You should first read here a couple of > month, before you start posting. You should also look into the archives, > so that you know what it is all about. You should read a minimum of 10 > long extended posts by maskedzebra, Jude could point out to you which > ones are essential to read. You should also study the Barry /Judy wars, > which go back 17 years, for that you should have a look at > alt.meditation.transcendental. If you don't know what that is, Richard > will explain it to you. > > > > > > You should also decide to which fraction you want to belong to, with > whom you want to gang up, are you pro-TM or anti-TM, or do you even > pretend to be neutral, are you pro or anti Robin. You could be pro-TM > pro-Robin, anti-TM pro-Robin, anti-Robin pro-TM, or anti-Robin anti-TM, > (did I forget something?) You could be also one of the 'freaks' (not > meant in a bad way, just not fitting anywhere) with an exclusive topic > like Sanskrit or Nokia or Chinese poetry or opera or latest movies. > > > > > > Once you have completed these initial steps, you are welcome to post > almost anything, except porn and new Yahoo viruses. > > > > > > >  > > > >  > > > > --- On Wed, 2/20/13, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alex--this is spam (was Re: Yer chatter > is bulging my Inbox!) > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 6:32 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &g
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: late (Ouch...) Alex-- spam!
Good essay on spiritual-needs & ezy-link to the FF paper. And thanks for encouagement to visit again -- t was always nice out there. WayBack, our 'programs' were practiced on foam-pads in large 'sheds' to help govern time-trends better. I still have a badge covered with '7000' stickers -- would it get me into a dome to hover some? --- On Sat, 2/23/13, authfriend wrote: From: authfriend Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: (Ouch...) Alex--this is spam! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 2:23 PM "We become addicted to healing instead of being healed, so we cannot be OK with not always being OK." Read more: http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spirituality/how-much-healing-does-healing-take-2?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bigthink%2Fmain+%28Big+Think+Main%29 http://tinyurl.com/a3w86wx --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > David, there is in fact quite a thriving economy in alternative health and > spirituality here in Fairfield, Ia. Locally the rags we look at for events, > venues, and services are The Fairfield Weekly Reader and also The Source. > People locally open them up alongside their calendar-planners to schedule > their lives here. There's a tremendous amount going on in a small community > frequently with too many multiple options of things spiritual going on any > day or nite. If you look in the classified ads for either you'll see some of > the market here. The Weekly Reader does not have a good web presence but it > gets distributed every Thursday each week. > http://www.yelp.com/biz/fairfield-weekly-reader-fairfield > > You could contact the Fairfield Weekly Reader and they'd send you a copy. The > Source has a web page: http://www.iowasource.com/ > You should come visit. It's quite a spiritual place. You'd like it. > -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Connie Larson
I knew Conny from Rishikesh 1971, a most likeable fellow. I would consider his testimony very reliable. Do you know that when he left Maharishi Maharishi gave him his deerskin as a memento. Love, David --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This swedish fellow was unable to understand the nature of one great > saint. Then he moves along to another, Sai Baba, and again he is unable. > > Apparently Sai Baba told him to go home; he would father a son. When > Connies wife conscieved a daughter he became furious. > > Whatever you hear or read from Connie Larson, take a deap breath. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Connie Larson
I've read it as he sent me an electronic copy - -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He is supposed to have an English version of his biography out. I > know the Swedish version has been out for a while, just not certain > on the English one. > > It will be interesting to hear what he has to say. > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Connie Larson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David Fiske wrote: > > I knew Conny from Rishikesh 1971, a most likeable fellow. > > > Someone has a faulty memory, David! > Quite right last course 1969. How did you know that? And does it matter?
[FairfieldLife] I love Maharishi. Why?
Maharishi has been on mind recently. I have been thinking how much I like him and what a pivotal role he played in my life. I last saw him alone, probably in '74, on one of those European ATR courses. He had been messing around with me, the then National Leader in South Africa, as he was wont to do, giving contradictory messages and making me feel unsettled as to my position and his confidence in me. I raised this with him as he lay ready for sleep and said I was unsure of his love. He replied" my love for you was established when first we met" We me in 1962 (Hochgurgl). I had received word that my father was dying in South Africa and I was uncertain about staying for the month. Henry Nyburg organised for me to see him alone, right at the start of the course. Maharishi took both my hands in a warm embrace and asked about my father. It was a special moment for me and set the tone both for the course, my first romance with the Absolute, and my subsequent frequent interactions with Maharishi. My last direct contact, en route as an immigrant to Canada, was from a phone booth on a Swiss Autobahn as I was leaving Seelisburg, having been given the run around by Neil Patterson for videos and a machine which never came because I had a moustache! Maharishi laughed heartily about this and said I could have gone to Canada as their national leader rather than as a bearded philosopher. My response was that would have put a few noses out of joint. By then I was well on my way out from the organization having decided amongst other things that if enlightenment meant anything it meant the ability to be one's self as well as one's Self. So some 30 years later he still comes to mind and I still feel such affection for him. He was a wonderful person to know and greatly enriched my life. I do wonder how much of this comes from the Jungian projection one tends to make on such figures and the reluctance to give up seeing one's Soul in them. I read what people say of Muktananda. I never met him but from what I read he was a first class rogue so I have none of their projections which either leaves them permanently in love or furious about being betrayed. So I am uncertain of this continuing love for Maharishi, my wish that he makes a happy `transition', and that warm happy feeling I get when, as now, I think of him and feel so grateful he was a part of life. Love, David www.esotericarts.org To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Geoff Gilpin
Geoff Gilpin intended to interview me for his book but I `fell through cracks' as he put it. I was interested to see what folks thought of it so got back on to FFL searched and read a pile of posts that had nothing like a review. I don't know whether a review was written and, if so, could someone kindly direct me to the message no. Has anyone read Conny Larson's auto biography? I have and found it moving. It details his abuse by Satya Sai Baba and makes some allusions to MMY's behaviour. He is writing an account of those at the moment. Love, David To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?
Lurk, Rick and Curtis, Your comments all so kind. Thank you. "Above the fray". Well let me explain. I have spent a lot of time bemoaning all that I think is wrong or misguided. One can spiral down doing that. I have spent much time looking forward to an expected cull brought on by human foolishness. However although I still embrace catastrophe as a means for change I have started to believe in a new paradigm. This is that there are 12 time lines of parallel realities i.e 12 futures for those here on earth now. This is more than just a wheat and a chaff division. Compatible energies will have a similar future. These 12 time lines seem destined to hive off soon. I take great comfort in the thought that I will soon no longer be sharing my world with incompatible energies. Therefore I get a warm feeling in my heart for my future and that leaves little room for bitching. There is SO much that is just not right for me here on earth now I could spend all day swearing. It seems better to think happily of the splitting away of those 12 time lines. Goodbye can be such a cheerful word sometimes don't you think? By the way some of these ideas came from www.opterra.com. I am on a forum there, for which one pays monthly. You might be surprised to know I was almost kicked off for being a subversive agent! All I did was point out to a charming poster who in alluding to unity consciousness described herself as a leaf floating on the ocean an image I said that implied duality and that the wave and ocean analogy was more philosophically correct. Courteous as I think I am it was construed as seeking a fight. From memories of how some folk on FFL behave you wouldn't last 10 seconds there. They are all generally in agreement and mostly always supportive of each other. The site has made me realize that someone can be highly intelligent, informed, intuitive and yet quite possibly be a little mad. However I mostly find the eccentric charming and my life has been greatly enriched by the odd. . What I also like about the 12 futures is that it is not a heaven/hell judgement. You just go where you are most suited and that seems a good solution. Moreover as energies for change flood our earth as they currently do, they provide stimulus for the hiving off. They boost what one focuses on or where one's heart is. As one's life is what one attends to, so also will be one's future. Is all this true? I don't know; life is so mysterious. Do I believe it? Perhaps and it helps me get through my day. I just don't recognize the world so many people seem to be living in as my world. If that is to be above the fray then I guess that is where I am. Any way I have enough of my own fray to deal with. I haven`t been on this site since Nov when I went on my round the world trip so I don't know if there have been more Maharishi dark revelations but I am aware of the earlier stories. Troubling I know. However, in his core, Maharishi has wanted to help and I think he has done so. He taught me 1) I could do nothing more fundamental to change the world than changing my awareness and taught me how to do that. 2) Knowledge is structured in consciousness. If I look at the facts the world provides this is hard to prove. But if I look at my personal world it seems valid for apart from some slips and blips I see a world of love. This morning I put some more of my large garden to bed. A frog hopped towards its winter bed under a big pile of mulch, from where it will emerge in the Spring to eat slugs. I greeted it with affection as a companero. Chickadees start their own sunflowers in the garden and in Fall eat the seeds. As they flit amongst the 8 foot tall plants I call to them `hello sweetheart'. .My well tended soil gives me wonderful vegetables and fruit. How can I not see love in all that balance and ripeness. So it depends on what you want to see. I was taught that when something of beauty is seen to love it for the earth as we know it is passing away. It is apparently vanishing in turmoil. That is one view; but that is the splitting off of the time lines. The world that some people inhabit is just not mine at all so why worry about them. They have their future and I have mine. As I think of my future in a world of love I get a delicious feeling in my heart. We have choices. We can yap angrily as life passes by or we can grab in by the handful and love it. I think Maharishi has done the latter. He has taken two huge handfuls of life. And once he took my hands for a while and that has made all the difference. Love, David www.esotericarts.org --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That was a sweet post, David. As much a reflection of the goodness of > your own heart as of any qualities Maharishi possesses, > > Yeah. That is what I felt. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > &
[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Nice. Your posts stand apart like the tallest mountain in a range. > > lurk > You are too kind. By the way I made an error in the link I gave re 12 timelines. it should have been: www.operationterra.com Sorry. love, David To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?
Correct. Lovely poem.Another educated person on this site! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm wondering whether your last phrase here was a conscious echo of the > final line of Robert Frost's poem, "The Road Not Taken": > > Two roads diverged in a wood, and I > I took the one less traveled by, > And that has made all the difference. > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?
Curtis, On the forum I found everyone had the same symptoms I have been having for 5 months for which all medical tests have proved negative. Their explanation is that what they hope for is happening and is causing cellular purification etc. I have long cast my intellectual net fairly wide. Furthermore it seems no more far fetched than the TMO I left in 1977. A lot of what Lyara writes is very interesting. I guess I allow myself to have a corner that tolerates the bizarre sometimes. If you don't get onto the forum and you already have doubts you would doubt even more if you read some of the stuff there. I don't think I can add much more than that except I have every sympathy for someone who just smiles or even laughs out loud; but then I have friends and family who do the same for much that I really do believe in. Love, David - -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David, > > I'm sure convincing people about your beliefs is not your cup of tea, > but I was wondering if you would care to elaborate on why you find the > site you posted credible? Although a guy like me predictably doesn't > find the information on the site compelling , I am always interested > in why someone else does. In the spirit of discovery, and without any > intention of sharing my opinions un-invited, would you care to share > your views? > > Curtis > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?
I should have placed it in quotations. Mea Culpa. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, good. I thought it had to be. I think that all of us, when we decided to learn > TM, began a journey along the road less traveled, even if we were not aware > of it at the time, and yes, I agree, it has made all the difference. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "David Fiske" wrote: > > > > Correct. Lovely poem.Another educated person on this site! > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > I'm wondering whether your last phrase here was a conscious echo of the > > > final line of Robert Frost's poem, "The Road Not Taken": > > > > > > Two roads diverged in a wood, and I > > > I took the one less traveled by, > > > And that has made all the difference. > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?
Curtis, I learned from Tai Chi that the second you think you know you stop learning. One must always be alert for change to happen. Master Moy insisted on us remaining students in our attitude and, moreover, open to learning from our own students. Opinions can be a terrible barrier and prevent us rethinking our position. I took a peek at one poster here on another subject and blow me down it could have been a rant written several years ago. One must find a balance between consistency and intractable opinion. I have opinions like everyone but in my heart I sometimes acknowledge that the only thing I KNOW is my Being as Silent, all the rest is decoration. Maharishi taught us that once we know the Oneness of life we can accept anything in diversity. Thank you for your courtesy. Love, David P.S my symptoms were light headedness, dizziness, as though drunk, a sense the world was receding away from me, occasional terrible grumpiness, extreme lassitude. Everyone there had the same thing so I swallowed my scepticism and tried to listen to what they said and how they explained it. In the process I became fascinated by the interpretations we apply to get through our days. I rather enjoy the crazy sometimes. And don't we all dwell in our own reality? If everything taught there was wrong it wouldn't affect me. My own life is so rooted in my own practices and I KNOW their effect. However believing in the separating 12 time lines does allow me to deal with the utter horror I also see in the world and the pain of being here. I find if I focus on my life and where I am and where I `believe' I am headed `all is well'. My only fear now is I live another ten years and nothing outside has changed. That is too painful. `I can't endure for only that. "It's a mighty big world out there isn't it? " Exactly what I said to Neil Patterson in Seelisberg when after 3 days he still wouldn't give me the video machine and recent tapes of Maharishi to watch. I got in my car and never looked back. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks David. I think casting your intellectual net wide is a great > way to live. I think that we all have a bunch of stuff that strikes > us as right or useful, and more that does not in each of our worlds. > That seems to be true for both people who consider themselves skeptics > or spiritually opened people. Thanks for taking a moment to broaden > my understanding. I enjoy reading stuff that I don't necessarily > accept, so I enjoyed the site. But an insight into how someone finds > value in it is really cool. Tolerating the bizarre is something I > value also, although we may pick different areas to practice that > tollerance. It is a mighty big world out there isn't it? > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?
Yes he might have changed his view but I stay with the earlier one. If they couldn't accept me with a moustache I can believe in anything they won't accept, including Master Moy! By the way I am grateful for the shove out by Neil Patterson, it was the final push onto new things but that doesn't mean I like him for it. In fact most people around Maharishi are suspect for the very reason they are still around him. No minds of their own or else self-serving interests. Love, David --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But David, MMY would not accept your Master Moy. You'd be asked to > stop doing his practices and sign a paper that you never would do his > practices again if you wanted to be active in his movt and in the > dome. I understand that's not an interest of yours right now but I > think it should cause a reevaluation of your last statement. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I love Maharishi. Why?
BTW I think the information on the site about the violence in schools was overly pessimistic. Although we have had some horrible high Curtis, I must have missed something, are we talking of something on www. operationterra.com? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi - From a Purusha in Holland
For me that link for the photo no longer works. Has it been pulled? I saw earlier on and it was sweet as though he was meditating. David ---
[FairfieldLife] Look what a google of Maharishi dies gave me the day of his death.
Look what a google of "Maharishi dies" gave me the day of his death. FFL Message #47623 "at_man_and_brahman" When Maharishi dies, I don't think he'll get more than a small AP paragraph that will show up in Section F of your local newspaper, next to the latest story about Britney's fifth husband. David
[FairfieldLife] Re: Neal Patterson in the news
Neal was the chap who when I passed via Seelisberg to Canada refused to let me listen to any recent videos of Maharishi in my room (after I had been promised the facility) because I had a beard. He said he was happy to support Maharishi's rules 100%. I had waited three days for the equipment and finally barged into the 108 room in the Hotel Kulm to speak to him. I then told him the world was a big place and there was much to do it in it other than hang round waiting and he could have made it plain to me at the beginning. >From the auto route I phoned Maharishi and he laughed heartily saying I could go to Canada as their National Leader instead of as a bearded philosopher. I declined and said it would only put their noses out of joint. He tried to persuade me to get Ingrid to do her MA at MIU instead of Canada and said he was "surprised at me following a woman". I said sometimes the longest way round is the quickest way home and after a detour I might yet get back. I thought Neal was a prick. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thought crimes? > > I have been warned to "Don't even think it!!" > > --- Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Isn't that the Ru guy doing this radio ad?
yes.. that is jeffrey hedquist. the voice of fairfield... cm - Original Message - From: off_world_beings To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Isn't that the Ru guy doing this radio ad? Isn't that the Ru guy doing this radio ad for Ron Paul? Sounds like him ? (Click on "Click to hear our new radio ad") http://www.ronpaul2008.com/ OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] From Margi Gunn
dear margi... thank you for your sweet postand very good advice. my condolences on the passing of your husband. best wishes, david hawthorne - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] From Margi Gunn Dear Rick et al, My husband and life partner died suddenly three weeks ago. I could feel his bliss at being free while I was doing chest compressions, wondering if I shuld bring him back or just let him go into the wonderfulness he was experiencing and sharing with me. Nature took care of things for him. I just want to say that life can end in the blink of an eye, and we shouldn't waste out time playing one-upsmanship verbal games and insulting each other frequently the way so many people seem to do on Fairfield Life. Life in the relative world is difficult enough without having so called friends putting us down. There are so many better uses of our time, for service to others, for personal silence or contemplation, for meditation and program, for enjoying the beauty of the Creator's work. We can unstress or dump our bad feelings by pounding the couch instead of verbally or electronically pounding each other. I find that my time is better spent doing other things right now. Rick, thank you for your condolences and please post this note if possible. Thanks. Love, Margi Gunn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: 10/28/2007 1:58 PM To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tough luck
test. - Original Message - From: Peter To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Tough luck --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of suziezuzie > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:58 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tough luck > > > > What would you do if you could afford an advanced > technique, $3000, > money being no problem and you had been meditating > for 35 years and > were ready for the advanced technique and the > teachers were in town and > it was all set up BUT your wife, who has never > meditated and has no > thought of it what so ever would kick you out of the > house if she found > out that you spent $3000 on something she thinks is > a complete waste of > money so in the meantime, you have to sneak the > money out and lie about > where you're going, "oh, I'm just getting the car > tuned honey, be back > soon, hee hee hee", but she reads you like the > English radar during > World War II and starts asking, "why are you acting > so strange? What > are YOU UP TO?" And you say, "oh nothing, while > looking at your hands, > starting to cough and chock as you run out the front > door. > > Would you do this or just cancel the whole thing? > > The advanced technique is just a syllable or two > added to your mantra. You > can easily find these syllables online. A friend of > mine did that recently > and his having great experiences (as he was having > with his old mantra.) > Some would suggest that your mantra won't be > cosmically legitimate unless it > is properly imparted by a qualified person. If that > is true then here's > another alternative. Go see Amma either in > California or Detroit later this > month (HYPERLINK > "http://amma.org/tours/amma-tours/n_america.html"http://amma.org/tours/amma- > tours/n_america.html) or in Albuquerque or elsewhere > next summer. She'll > personally give you a mantra that contains all the > syllables any advanced > technique would provide, and more, and a major dose > of shakti to boot. Or perform your own TM puja to guru Dev and initiate yourself! Talk about Self-referential > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - > Release Date: 11/2/2007 > 9:46 PM > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wholesale mung dahl - organic
Dear Jeff: Hi. I would love to buy at least 10 lbs of your organic mung dahl Or, let me know how many lbs are in a bag... i'm located in the Tetra 1 Building across the street from everybody's... hope this works for you. David Hawthorne 508 N. Second St., Fairfield, IA 52556 Tel: 641-472-3799 - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Wholesale mung dahl - organic Dear Friends, In case you don't know, Jeff Mecurio is back in Fairfield, and planning to open a small grocery store and wholesale buying club. He is just getting started, but he currently has 25 bags of organic mung dahl for $1.72 a pound. He is very willing to deliver, because his store is still very much in process. His address is 503 N. 3rd. His email is "Jeff Mercurio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unfortunately I just bought a lot of dahl for $2.25 lb. Of course next time I will buy from Jeff. Blessings, Marie No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.23/1114 - Release Date: 11/6/2007 8:05 PM To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Could this happen to the TMO in Germany?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/12/07/germany.scientology.ap/index.html
[FairfieldLife] Holiday Greetings from Ved Bhumi, Bharat India
Just forwarding something I received from a Purusha in India. Best wishes, David Hawthorne CIMG1982.JPG. Jai Guru Dev and Holiday greetings from Ved Bhumi, Bharat. Winter has come to our mountain retreat and with it Silence and the inward pull that comes with snow and cold. It's a good time as long as the electricity is up and the heaters are working. Otherwise it can get a little discouraging as the weeks go bye, I'm sure you know the syndrome, perhaps without the power-outages. One has to admire the locals who have never had power, but a couple of cows (or buffaloes) and a wood fire can go a long way, as our forefathers experienced. I hope all is bliss with you there and that you get a chance to support the Invincible America Assembly and your own Atma over the holidays. The coming US election drama will be a long and potentially divisive affair without the Pandits and the bliss generated by all the Governors and Sidha's and Meditators in America. Amazing Knowledge flowing from Maharishi Ji, as you know from the Maharishi Channel. Brahma Vidya, Pure Knowledge, is the greatest purifier and it's pouring out these days, enlivening the already awakened Pure Consciousness of Mahatma's like your great selves. Good to drink from that well, to keep the Buddhi sattvic out there in the midst of all the rajas (not to be confused with Raajaa's) of worldly life. Maharishi Ji has been awakening us to the memory, smriti, of the Self, Atma. That memory of Infinity and it's Point, Gyan Shakti and Kriya Shakta, Silence and Dynamism is the ground of Brahm, Totality, Unity. The world with it's rattle and hum, the push and pull of the "drama's" of waking state consciousness leave a different memory, one of division and pain and fear. So good to keep the intellect (Buddhi) whose nature it is to divide anyway, floating on the basis of a rested nervous system and a mind full of the memories of Ram (Ramayana), Brahm (Gita & Mahabharta), Kriyaa Shakti (Durga Saptashati & Shrimad Devi Bhagavatam), etc. It makes such a difference to spend a little time on Veda or Upanishad or Purana every day, in Sanskrit if you know your swara's, or in English in which the wholeness comes through, even in the parts. Or the Maharishi Channel, just that darshan of the Global Country of World Peace flowing, the play of Unity Consciousness, within boundaries of the Raajaa's and the Family Chats..and Maharishi Ji's lectures transform at a level not available in everyday worldly experience. Even if the intellect throws up objections, the inner memory of Atma is awakened. Ram Raja, where suffering belonged to no one, is recalled on the cellular level. Important in the world of transformation, to keep the unitary transformation, zero-point motion open to our perception. Jivo Brahmaiva Na Paradh The Individual is Cosmic. Thank you for support of Purusha and all of Maharishi Ji's programs all these years, it is a great gift to us all to be able to be part of this undertaking to transform the consciousness of our world, to guide the destiny of mankind towards Heaven on Earth. We are very fortunate. Keep it up, more bliss is coming in the days and weeks ahead as the direction of Time turns heavenward, radiating the Light of God. All Glory to Guru Dev. Maharishi: "The role is that the teacher is absolutely woven into this knowledge. And when the knowledge is in our awareness, it's the total teacher that is in our awareness. It is said in the Vedic literature, about the teacher: Na guroradhikam; na guroradhikam; na guroradhikam-"There is nothing greater than Guru; there is nothing greater than Guru; there is nothing greater than Guru"-because Guru is the embodiment of all that is greatest. Guru is Brahm-Gurur Brahma, Gurur Vishnur. These are not the words of adoration. This is the description of the reality of Guru. Guru is on the level of totality personified. When Guru speaks, it is the totality that speaks. Words of the Guru are the words of the Veda. Veda is only heard from the Guru. So Guru means the totality. And if one is in the sense of Guru all the time, one is in the sense of Total Natural Law and its total organizing power. And there is nothing greater than that. That's why Guru is completely natural in our awareness. It's not a matter of anything that is from outside or anything. It's completely natural. It's simple. It's totality. It's a great-it's a great thing; it's a great thing. One knows it in being that level of-being that level of relationship. Na guroradhikam-there is nothing greater than Guru, nothing greater than Guru. " MMY-Guru Purnimah 2005 <>
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?
Do any of you have speculation as how what Jill Bolte Taylor http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/229 said ties in with Maharishi's once held view of the dual nervous system. It seems she implies that the right brain gives an experience of Being and the left of individual concerns. The problem is, as always, how to function individually while enjoying non local awareness. David http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/229
[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU
In an idle moment I clicked on TMNews and a few more clicks led me to Paul Mason's newspaper article on Linda Pearce on thr TMFree blog site where I posted a few things. Then I wondered this morning whether there had been anything on FFL and a search proved right with usual scuffle over it. I post now an amaglam of what I wrote on TMFree blog just in case anyoine can stomach any more. I was in India with Linda, an attractive young girl. When she married Peter Pearce I became godfather to their daughter. I can't comment on the veracity of her assertions but find it hard to believe she would make them if they were untrue. Poor girl seems to be a bit of victim as Peter was a pathological liar and con man. We were for a brief period partners in an art business so I know his ins and outs. I gathered from Peter that Linda was a few years ago dying of MS in an Indian village. For myself who was around Maharishi since 1962 I found the stories of his behaviour startling as I never got a sense of him being sexual. It is too bad it couldn't have been discussed as it would be interesting to have a frank talk of sex and spirituality. It seems the three temptations money, seems the three temptations money, sex and power follow many of us up the ladder. David Fiske| Homepage | 06.14.07 - 7:44 pm | # I did not mean to suggest that Peter Pearce invented Linda's story and that as he is untrustworthy it isn't true. A charming chap but..! Linda might have been charmed by him but I think she told that story on her own. I forgot to add that the South African Sunday Times carried a similar report in which Linda said that when she tried to decline Maharishi he told her not "to have sexual hang ups." A letter this morning from Conny to me says his book on MMY has secured a big publisher in Sweden and will tell all. David David Fiske | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:24 am | # Sorry Paul I don't. It was sent to me after emigrating to Canada and I seem to have lost it. At the time like you I dismissed it as it seemed so improbable to me. However with so much directed at him it would seem now most improbable that he wasn't a man like anyone else and like many Indians who meet free moving western women untrained on how to deal with them. One false step can lead to yet another and soon a taste gets developed. Any person can feel lonely and all bodies need caresses. Maybe he loved them as well. I am so glad I never felt he was my guru, never had any. Yet he remains someone who profoundly influenced my life, mostly positively and for that he has my gratitude and very warm feelings of love. Face dog I don't think he attracted a lot of conmen. I think he attracted a lot of young people who felt inspired to feel that working for him might well make a huge difference in the world. I once complained bitterly, on my SCI course, that to the movement's discredit their good intentions were used as a trap. As I had, I suppose, some status the poor lad taking the course face fell. I gather from Conny who has led a justified campaign against Sai Baba that they have got Mark Landau to say Conny was hardly ever MMY's secretary, only for 3 weeks. I guess trying to discredit him. Somewhere I have a nice slide of Linda and Maharishi walking along the path from his quarters to come to a meeting. I now wonder how many of the young ladies I knew with him had encounters. Merilyn Jest? She and I were close and for a while she was close to MMY. I think things fell apart in her life. It causes great grief that all those hard efforts from so many people have ended up with a movement about as far removed from any positive influence as one could imagine. If I were Maharishi I would feel despair. He must self reflect like us all. I wish, like a good friend, I could chew the cud with him as, late in life, he weighs up things.. love, David
[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the WritersNet published writers and auth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Weeding my extensive organic garden and filling my 12 black apostles (compost bins) I thought of this link on Peter Pearce. Rather like contemplating weeds to tell the truth. I am godfather to his daughter. His mother thought him such a negligent father she said something should have been done to him at birth to prevent him having children. Take this as idle gossip or a comment from a mother about her only child and her only grandchild There is no way Peter would have lost 600K of his own money. Before marrying Linda, her uncle, who unlike her father had not gambled away his extensive fortune (his house according to Peter was the castle in the film "Tom Jones") asked Peter how much he planned to settle on Linda. Peter who had, no doubt, portrayed himself as wealthy said his fortune was currently tied up. And so it was, as whatever it was, nothing huge, still belonged to his mom and stepdad. Shortly after marrying Linda he appeared in Switzerland with a very fancy sportscar, her money no doubt. Walking in my well heeled area, chatting to someone on the path I say my name and she says"You are Peter Pearce's partner?" Amber flashes on my screen so I say "only in the art business'" She says tell him to return her valuable antique ring which he had promised three months ago to get appraised, otherwise she was going to the police. It seems Peter had given it to his secretary in lieu of a salary. Se had given it the office's landlord for safekeeping. He refused to hand it over to anyone until ownership got proved. Peter persuaded a lovely old lady, Hazel Stokes, that he thought she had a Russian icon and he would get it sold for her. It so happened that she was in London when Christie's knocked it down for over 12,000 pounds. Terribly excited she went to see them to be told her it belonged to Peter Pearce. Sh e eventually got her money and him his fat commission. Not having learned from this experience she gave him her entire collection of bird paintings she had done for sale. She never saw them or a penny ever again. Peter told me a bizarre explanation that they had been seized by the bailiff in a messy divorce proceedings between his Johannesburg secretary where he had stored them and her angry husband. I could go on. How he broke into my house to make long distance calls to England on my account. But enough. When I visited S.A 1 ½ years ago I wrote him e mail ahead of time as I would have liked to see him. He never responded and there I could find no telephone for him. My only revenge was to e mail him that Hazel's son Claydon was angrily looking for him so to expect a knock on his door one day. Like all con artists he leaves one with a feeling of affection for him. He could spin tales like you wouldn't believe. Deer have eaten 60 of my 68 crucifera. Like a good Christian I rejoice in the 8 that were saved. Oh that the TM movement could have been saved,along with some of the excellent teachings. Love, David
[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU
Yes that was the photo. I guess I sent to you. David
[FairfieldLife] Firegrid
Take a peek at this and see what you think. They have LOVELY music on the site. love, David www.firethegrid.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey now all you sinners - Put your lights on
That was fantastic. thank you. I think I'll download the song. David --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Santana and Everlast > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5di5EhZshdQ >
[FairfieldLife] David Sieveking film
Has there been any discussion of David Sieveking and his documentary film on Maharishi, "David wants to fly"? I did a search that came up blank. I spoke to him today and we might meet up. love, David
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Sieveking film
Yes in New York next week and in Toronto April 8th. He said you had given him my e address so I assumed you knew something of him. We spoke for half an hour. He has been in contact with Conny, Persinger and a Pam Reeve. Conny says he wants a meeting with 'skin boys' in the USA. David -
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Sieveking film
Yes in New York next week and in Toronto April 8th. He said you had given him my e address so I assumed you knew something of him. We spoke for half an hour. He has been in contact with Conny, Persinger and a Pam Reeve. Conny says he wants a meeting with 'skin boys' in the USA. David -
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Sieveking film
What concert Rick?
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi films
I was sent the following e mail was unable to watch the first film on the 1960 course posted by an old friend Ulla Blucher. I wonder if these links (not all posted here) have already appeared on this site and whether any of you good folks have been more successful than I was. It downloaded for ages but I never could click on anything to see a film. I would appreciate any help. Thank you. ;ove, David Fiske Maharishi Films1969_Maharishi_in_India_Ma Andamayi_Blucher < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/Flash/1969_Maharishi_in_India.swf Frohe Weihnachten und ein glückliches Neues Jahr Herzlichst Elfriede Pietsch Ja, hier sind ganz viele lectures und digitalisiert auf mp3 und so.Über Weihnachten anhören!Hans aus Köln Hans Bruncken Mobil: 0163 160 9117 --- Theo Fehr schrieb am So, 21.12.2008:Von: Theo Fehr Betreff: Fw: Incredible collection of talks by MaharishiAn: "Hans Bruncken" Datum: Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008, 13:45 MENGEN an Material !! LGTheo - Original Message - From: F & R Anklesaria To: anklesa...@bestagainststress.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:45 AMSubject: Fwd: Incredible collection of talks by Maharishi Guru Dev and Maharishi Audios and Videos http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/ < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/>Guru Dev Audio Lectures and Singing 195219520300_Lucknow,India_Guru_Dev_Discourse_Part 1of4 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19520300_LucknowIndia_Guru_Dev_Discourse_Part1of4.mp3 > 19520300_Lucknow,India_Guru_Dev_Discourse_Part 2of4< http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19520300_LucknowIndia_Guru_Dev_Discourse_Part2of4.mp3 > 19520300_Lucknow,India_Guru_Dev_Discourse_Part 3of4< http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19520300_LucknowIndia_Guru_Dev_Discourse_Part3of4.mp3 > 19520300_Lucknow,India_Guru_Dev_Discourse_Part 4of4 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19520300_LucknowIndia_Guru_Dev_Discourse_Part4of4.mp3 > 19520300_Lucknow,India_Guru_Dev_sings_Bhaja_Govindam < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19520300_LucknowIndia_Guru_Dev_sings_Bhaja_Govindam.mp3 > 19520300_Lucknow,India_Guru_Dev_sings_Guru Pranam < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19520300_LucknowIndia_Guru_Dev_sings_GuruPranam.mp3 > 19520300_Lucknow,India_Guru_Dev_sings_Narmada < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19520300_LucknowIndia_Guru_Dev_sings_Narmada.mp3 > 19520300_Lucknow,India_Guru_Dev_sings_Stotram < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19520300_LucknowIndia_Guru_Dev_sings_Stotram.mp3 > Maharishi Films1969_Maharishi_in_India_Ma Andamayi_Blucher < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/Flash/1969_Maharishi_in_India.swf > Across The Universe Slideshow < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/Flash/AccrossTheUniverseFionaAppleVer.swf > Maharishi on Love and Guru Dev < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/Flash/MMYonLoveGDBeginning.swf > --- Maharishi Audios Audio Lectures 19591959_Glow.mp3 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/1959_Glow.mp3 > 1959_Grace_1of2< http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/1959_Grace_1of2.mp3 > 1959_Grace_2of2 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/1959_Grace_2of2.mp3 > 1959_Karma_Reincarnation_1of2 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/1959_Karma_Reincarnation_1of2.mp3 > 1959_Karma_Reincarnation_2of2 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/1959_Karma_Reincarnation_2of2.mp3 > 1959_Pathless_Path_1of3 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/1959_Pathless_Path_tape1of3.mp3 > 1959_Pathless_Path_2of3 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/1959_Pathless_Path_tape2of3.mp3 > 1959_Pathless_Path_3of3 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/1959_Pathless_Path_tape3of3.mp3 > 1959_Q&A < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/1959_Q&A.mp3 > 19590502_Hollywood,USA_Healing_Power_of_Deep_Meditation < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19590502_HollywoodUSA_Healing_Power_of_Deep_Meditation_vinyl.mp3 > 19590716_SF_USA_Value_of_mantras < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19590716_SF,USA_Value_of_mantras.mp3 > 19590716_SF_Spirtual_Unfoldment < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19590716_SF_Spirtual_Unfoldment.mp3 > 19590720_MMY With Dr Hislop 108Names of Guru Dev < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19590720_MMYWithDrHislop108NamesGD_clean.mp3 > 19591117_Los_Angeles_MeditationPath_Yoga_1of2 < http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/audios/19591117_Los_Angeles_MeditationPath_Yoga_1of2.mp3 > 19591117_Los_Angeles_MeditationPath_Yoga_2of2 < http://www.s
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi films
Yes I saw Devendra, Vernon Katz, Jerry J who has trouble downloading too, Ulla and Nikolaus Blucher (last letter received from the Prince in 2000) and the chap either from Denmark or Sweden. Paul Mason was very helpful and I got in, as was Rick. Theo Fehr who sent the original link I had met in India (1969 I guess) along with his very first wife Francisca. Gives one deep nostalgia for the period when I was a simple believer. Does anyone know where the first course (1960) in Ram Nagar was? My half brother John Wills was on it and his son is going on a pilgrimage there to get closer to his Dad but they can't locate the ashram Maharishi rented for the course. love, David
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Vote for Raunchy as a TM'er(aye)
I'll get off my lurking seat and cast a vote for Edg and Meow to keep posting, though I think the idea of the vote is a bit much. Dave Lawson - Original Message - From: "meowthirteen" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 10:28:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Vote for Raunchy as a TM'er(aye) --|| Aye And in the interest and value of integrity (interestingly the topic on what's your dosha this morn) I stick with the thirteen votes I said and I am looking for these same things as you described E mail me if you find said place to shine meowthirt...@yahoo.com It's been real(?) - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Duveyoung wrote: > > Raunchy, > > You're pretty entertaining being my and Meow's cheerleader, but, come on > sweety, the votes that are real votes are days old, and the few comments > you've garnered from non-voters-for-me-or-Meow cannot be magically > transmogrified into valid votes. > > This is the last day for voting, and, at this late date, I think the message > is clear, and in fact, this "vow thing" has been an outstanding success in > terms of getting some barrel-head spiritual cash plunked down. It gives me a > two-by-four smack on my projections that "they be reading yer shit out thar, > matey," and this delusion become burnt rope -- an outstanding return on > investment for the paltry ante of giving the ego some time off, eh? I have > been paid in full. > > As for the vow itself, I've come to see that there is a need for fine print > in that it is unclear if I will be violating the vow if I become a lurker > here and continue to involve my mind with the minds here. > > I think I have to do complete cold turkey to get the fullest benefit of the > time off. I want to face what Curtis faced when he felt Italy's ancient love > of the whole spectrum of beauty and never missed the works created by the > dark palettes here. > > Well, folks, if you know of a great group for me, tell me. Here's what I'm > looking for in a group: > > A place where > > --trolls and flamers are tossed when group consciousness is marauded, > > --where hearts get to be huge silly gaudy blossoms blasting sunray echoes to > the clouds and no one snarks about mood making, > > --where folks can walk around with their morning coffee and no one laughs at > the frayed bathrobe, > > --where the culture warriors can come and lay down their arms and armor, > > --where clarity is honored, > > --where sweet necessary truths are arranged in bouquets, > > --where psych-war amputees can "have a sit" on a veranda with all the other > destiny busted lives, > > --where the atmosphere is like My Dinner With Andre, > > --where rage can be gelled into performance art and approved for the adroit > packaging of so much into mere words. > > I know, I know, the above is so much "about Edg," but come on, if Yahoo > groups are shut down, everyone here would have major psychological patterns > that immediately pushed their egoes to find another dealer where they can > score some attention. A common attachment: "for all have sinned and fallen > short of the glory of God." Meaning: since one isn't enlightened and knows > not the unboundedness of awareness, one can be found shooting up with mere > flicks of awareness from the shadowed muddlings of others. > > How easy it is to understand, but how impossible to throttle the thirst. > > So, Raunchy, thanks but no thanks. If I find somewhere better than this party > (where Rick cannot be bothered to put up a "no spitting" sign,) I'll give ya > a heads up. Your talents are such a big fish in such a small pond, it would > be wonderful to come back and say, "Raunch, o boy o boy o boy have they got > great snack trays at this party across town -- getcher ass over here and drag > Judy with ya." > > With Curtis gone, Marek so rare now, snarking so prevalent, and with good > discussions always punctuated by spitballs, with every heart here imprinted > from jackboots, I have to ask about Rick's Party: where's the beef? > > In a bassackwards way, maybe I'll find that the only profit from posting here > is gained when one leaves -- clarity that my ego is but a moonlet in a vast > system with a giant sun that shines upon EVERYTHING not just my orb's small > canvas. > > The rewards of having a spotlight in which to dance are paltry compared to > the infinity of awareness that attends every thought of every mind. We all > overflow with attention, but ignoring that, mirages in deserts are sought for > the slaking of a thirst that has never been real. > > So, this being my last posting day: any requests? Any topic you just have to > have Edg pipe up about? > > Anyone? > > Ahhh, lovely crickets soul stroking their chitin violins. > > Edg > > > --- In Fairfie
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enjoy the Rose! - Indifference tothe thorns is Bliss!
Yoga Sutras says that the Kleshas (mental thorns, obstacles to experience of aatmaa) are removed by effort and indifference, or application and non-attachment, abhyaasa vairaagyaabhyaam tan nirodhah. Or, as Maharishi would say, by an effortless effort. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enjoy the Rose! - Indifference tothe thorns is Bliss!
Dear Paul, It is not by doubting the words of the Guru that one gains knowledge, but by trying to understand them, and by practicing the teaching. If you have doubts over the validity of a statement, then humbly question the teacher. Dismissing the whole teaching is not helpful. The rose and its thorns is just a metaphor to convey the idea of duality, positive and negative, but even here we can see that the actual role of the thorns is to protect our beautiful rose, which means the thorns are also precious. Do you get the idea? .
[FairfieldLife] Re:"All limbs, or means, must be practiced simultaneously.." MMY
If you read the rest of Maharishi's commentary then you will find that he says TM, (ie the mental approach )is the master key - yama niyama etc naturally follow, because these virtues naturally develop through regular experience of the transcendent. If we are regularly transcending then we will naturally be drawn towards performing any activity we need for our evolution. That is my understanding, anyway. Jai Guru Dev David
Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddha at the Gas Pump TV/YouTube Show
Rick- I'd like to subscribe to the email lsit for you Buddha at the Gas Pump show. Sounds like a great idea; I enjoyed your radio interview. Thanks for taking the time to do this. Dave Lawson - Original Message - From: "Rick Archer" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:45:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [FairfieldLife] Buddha at the Gas Pump TV/YouTube Show My Radio/TV show idea has changed a bit, but is finally getting underway: I am starting a TV show on which I'll interview people who have undergone a spiritual awakening. There are many such people in my town, because Fairfield is a vanguard in a global awakening which is well underway. My initial idea was to have this be a radio show on our local low-power FM station, but now I'm doing it as a TV show on FPAC - The Fairfield Public Access Channel - and putting the videos on YouTube as well. If this interests you, here are your options: · You can watch archived interviews at http://www.youtube.com/user/buddhaatthegaspump. A video of the radio show pilot is already archived there. Audio quality of that one is poor due to technical difficulties which won't plague future broadcasts, but it's listenable, and the guests are interesting. If you subscribe to that YouTube channel, YouTube will notify you each week when I upload a new show. I should be uploading the next one in a day or two. · I'm going to create an email list to which I'll occasionally send special announcements, schedule changes, and other relevant news. Probably only one or two emails a month. If you'd like to be on that list, just reply to this email and let me know. · If you live in Fairfield and are a Mediacom subscriber, you'll be able to watch the interviews on Channel 9 and record them to your DVR for later viewing. Broadcast times will be announced to the email list. · I've created a chat group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BuddhaAtTheGasPump where people can discuss points brought up on the shows. Please join it if you're interested. I'll invite show guests to join it too so you may pose questions to them directly. Here's the chat group description, which will give you a better idea of what the show is about: People everywhere are undergoing a shift to a radically different state of consciousness which is transforming their understanding of themselves and the world. For some, this shift has been abrupt and dramatic. For others, it has been so gradual that they may not have realized it has occurred. This chat group is an adjunct to a weekly TV show, archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BuddhaAtTheGasPump , whose purpose is to enable these people to share their experience. Such shifts, or "awakenings," are not new: Christ spoke of the "Kingdom of Heaven within," Buddhists speak of Nirvana, Zen masters of Satori, Hindus of Moksha, but these traditions generally regard these states as rare and difficult to attain. Most people are therefore skeptical of claims of higher states of consciousness. They find it hard to believe that apparently ordinary friends and neighbors might be experiencing something extraordinary. Maybe they expect Enlightenment to look as remarkable on the outside as it is reputed to be on the inside. This show will attempt to dispel skepticism and misconceptions by week after week, allowing otherwise ordinary people to relate their experience of spiritual awakening. The terminology is tricky, because there are no universally agreed upon definitions to describe this experience. So please forgive us if we use some unfamiliar terms. We'll try to clarify our definitions as we go along. I hope that after a while, those listening will become convinced, as I am, that genuine and permanent spiritual awakenings are not just a pipe dream, but are real and are becoming relatively commonplace. We're not yet able to make this a call-in show, but this chat group will enable people to pose and discuss topics brought up on the show. I'll invite guests to join so that you may chat with them directly. Rick
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who to blame for the Haiti earthquake?
Count me in for $250. Dave Lawson - Original Message - From: "raunchydog" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:34:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who to blame for the Haiti earthquake? Thank you for donating $100, willytex! That means FFLife has donated $551 to Haiti so far. You guys rock! Thank you, everyone. Come on folks. Even if you can't afford very much right now, just know that every little bit helps. I just checked the news. The Red Cross reports it has raised $8 million from $10 text messages. Amazing! It's easy to do and it just takes a minute. So pick up your cell phone right now and text Haiti 90999 for the Red Cross or Haiti 20222 for the Haiti relief fund. Let's see if we can hit $1000 this weekend. We're half way there. I believe we can do this. What say you, Rick? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > The Buddhist group I sit with here from time to > > > > time raised 40,000 Euros in one day. My contri- > > > > bution added to the total. What would you like > > > > to bet that NO ONE ELSE on this forum who has > > > > commented on this subject -- including Raunchy, > > > > Judy, and those who find "karmic" reasons for > > > > the earthquake has contributed a penny. > > > > > > > I'd be happy to take any such bets. How much are > > > you betting, Barry? > > > > > > (Loser to donate the amount of the bet to the > > > relief efforts, of course.) > > > > rd: > > By my calculations Barry lost the bet and owes the > > Haitian relief effort an amount that matches the > > donations made by FFLife. He should consider this > > penance for his arrogance. > > > > $100 Judy > > > > $101 sgrayatlarge > > > > $50 nabby > > > > $210 raunchydog > > > > Total $451. > > > willytex - $100 > > Since Barry lost the bet, I'd vote that he donate to > the FFL group as much as his entire Buddhist group > donated, plus as much as the FFL respondents donated. > > Maybe Rick could set up a fund with the money to give > to the Haitian relief effort. > > Otherwise, maybe Barry should just apologize and leave > the group and stop being such a whinny old turd. He's > a loser and apparently a cheater. Maybe he could take > the other Barry with him, and John Manning too. They > are losers, fer sure. > > It's really low for guys kike the two Barrys and John > that try to score political or religious points at the > the expense of 50,000 dead victims. It's outrageous! > > Obviously they are really sick in the head - not any > kind of spiritual teachers at all. > > > If it would make him feel any better about > > losing the bet, Barry could donate that amount > > for Water Filtration Systems. > > > > Good job FFLife, keep up the good work. > > > > If you haven't done so already, please text > > Haiti 90999 for the Red Cross or Haiti 20222 > > for the Haiti relief fund through the Clinton > > Foundation. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Attack on Amma
Attack on India's 'hugging saint' Mata Amritanandamayi bestows blessings with a hug An unidentified man has been arrested after he apparently tried to stab a famous Indian spiritual leader known as the "hugging saint" on Sunday. Mata Amritanandamayi, who blesses her devotees with a hug, escaped unhurt in the attack which took place in Kerala. Reports say her followers wrestled the attacker on to the ground before he could reach the stage where she was leading prayers for 18,000 people. She has a huge following in India and supporters around the world. I don't want my [followers] to create any problem for what had happened Mata Amritanandamayi Embraced by the "saint" The incident took place in Kerala's in Kollam district, where Ms Amritanandamayi's group is based. Two of her followers are said to have suffered minor injuries in the attack. "I heard someone shouting, I couldn't see his face," she told Indian television channel, NDTV. "He had a knife in his hand." The Indian Express newspaper said the attacker may have been a follower who was expelled recently. Humble roots Ms Amritanandamayi said on Monday she wanted her followers to forgive the attacker. Amma began hugging devotees at a young age "All those who are born will die one day. I am going ahead keeping this reality in mind," she said. "I will carry on. I will continue to give darshan to the devotees coming here to meet me. I don't want my [followers] to create any problem for what had happened yesterday." Known to her followers as "Amma" (Mother), Mata Amritanandamayi, 51, heads a charitable trust which runs schools and hospitals across India and abroad. Ms Amritanandamayi, whose name means "Mother of Absolute Bliss" was born to a low caste family in a southern Indian fishing community. She refused school and then marriage, preferring to meditate. She began hugging devotees at a young age. In the 1980s Ms Amritanandamayi founded an ashram, or spiritual home, to receive followers and dispense more hugs. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Energy
Rick Archer thoughtfully suggested I might like to respond to the post appended at the end. Mostly we live dualistically, my energy, your energy and in this `I' and `mine' lie all our "sins" and personal folly.While it is true that a wave at one end of a long beach is not the same as a wave at some other spot still we can clearly distinguish between the quality of one wave and another even if we cling heroically to the concept that all are just the ocean. It is necessary to state this proposition at the beginning for the true position is that there is only one energy and whatever distinctions we wish to apply we are doing so in the realm of the `dream' and thus enjoy only the conceptual validity of temporary value. With that out of the way let me comment on the post. I can well remember how easily I could pick up and move an audience during my "golden boy" days. Tremendous energy flowed in and through me when I lectured on TM. Before each meeting I would deliberately collect my energy (pull the arrow back!) and then release it. It was heady stuff and I didn't spout the familiar TM doctrinces but allowed myself full creativity. After a while it disgusted me. I felt like a manipulator and a mere entertainer. I entered a phase when it seemed appropriate, necessary, to deal with my shadow. This was wasn't easy. Being a golden boy projecting Light and Love and Vitality was so much more satisfying. Moreover no one wanted to see my shadow side. They were attracted precisely for the projections of Light. This is the Guru trap. So I turned the tap off and became a nothing and a nobody, and consequently rather depressed and sad. Years later here in Canada during my Tai Chi classes I would give little talks and could feel the old energy flow. And the response from those listening. The glowing eyes turned towards me. In a teaching mode I think energy flows through one and to the listener. At first it again bothered me and then I decided I had worked sufficiently on my ego to allow it and not appropriate the "success" to `me'. In these moments one is more than usual, maybe angel power gets added, wisdom, knowledge and power comes; people feel their own souls and get lifted. The trick for them is not to be satisfied with a fed high but to do their own homework. Most just prefer to go home feeling good! The trick for me is to remember it is all the Ocean. The more I have meditated the more I realise there is no "I" except in the field of becoming and action and that "I" is only me for convenience's sake. So I would seem to be in agreement with what you wrote. Love, David www.esotericarts.org -- Forwarded Message From: TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:49:44 - To: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Darshan, was Vlodrop report --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/27/05 3:07 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Some years ago I had occasion to work closely > > with a "celebrity" minister. He was charming > > and charismatic person-to-person, but when he > > got up in front of the congregation to preach, > > you could almost see him plugging himself into > > some source of higher current; his voltage went > > up by an order of magnitude. If he'd turned > > that on you one-on-one, you'd have been fried. > > I don't know if he did it consciously, or if > > it just happened automatically. > > That's the experience I had when I gave TM lectures, > especially to a big crowd. I felt a great upwelling > of shakti and the audience seemed to sense it too. I still hold that there are two seperate energies, from the point of view of the relative. There is an energy that comes from samadhi, or nirvana, or the absolute -- whatever you want to call it. That energy has no attributes, no sense of intent about it. It doesn't want you to do anything or be any- thing or believe anything. Then there is another energy that is more directed and definitely has attributes of intent and coercion to it. I associate the latter energy with "charisma," both from spiritual teachers and celebrities. The first energy cannot be willed or directed; the person or group generating it just generates it as the result of being in the state of samadhi. The second energy can be directed and controlled and focused. Or it can be withheld and not emanated at all. I am fascinated by those who have the ability to use such focused charisma and *don't* use it. It strikes me as a more interesting phenomenon than those who have a lot of charisma and use it all the time to suck attention in their direction. I wrote one of the Road Trip Mind stories about a couple of run-ins I had with thi
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces
Thanks for posting that Ron. It reminds me of what attracted me to Maharishi in the first place. My own experience in `62 of seeing him after being carried up 6 flights of stairs by Count Blucher and Dick Britton-Foster after collapsing from my second kundalini awakening was similar in that I had to credit him with completely understanding my situation in one glance. All this makes what has become of the movement, the bizarre charade around him and the revelations about his behaviour on the FFL site all the more difficult to understand. Why? And it gets curiouser and curiouser, doesn't it? Love, David (www.esotericarts.org) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces
I am not sure. I met his wife once in Toronto. I think she was a travel agent.Dick worked as a broker and lost Gene Watts a lot of money. Dick and wife emigrated to Wales I think. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Was Dick Britton-Foster married to Fern Broughton, a long-ago TM > teacher in Montreal? > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Kirk and dick swinging
Does anyone know how Kirk, the New Orleans chef, handled Katrina? He would have loved the posts on Jay's heroin experiences and the redoubtable woman here who asserts she has the power to compel someone swing his dick until it drops off. This group has become more eclectic than Rick could have foreseen or maybe wanted. It reminds me of some of the stuff I once read on the "Dark and Erotic" chat site; shades of Charlie going to strip clubs! Scratch most people and you will find sex lurking. Nude swimming has my vote of approval. I have done it most of the summer down on the lake here. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: England wins "The Ashes" .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- I LOVE cricket. It is my fate to live where folk don't appreciate it's subtlety. Nor broadcast the game. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kirk and dick swinging
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . Sound like FairfieldLife? EXACTLY! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kirk and dick swinging
: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As for the redoutable woman, I had intended not to comment > > further, but I just cracked myself up last night over that > > same comment and I have to share it with people here. I > > was re-watching "The Excorcist" to review it, and the part > > came on the screen where Father Karras is shaking holy water > > on poor Regan and shouting, "The power of Christ compels you! > > The power of Christ compels you!" > > > > I lost it, because in my mind's eye, I say Judy, sitting in > > front of her computer, sprinkling New Jersey river water on > > the screen and shouting, "The power of Stein compels you! > > The power of Stein compels you!" > > > > Yup, works pretty well, I'd say. > > (Actually it would be seawater, given my location > on the shore.) How about doing that for a fun(d) RAISER? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kirk and dick swinging
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (Actually it would be seawater, given my location > > on the shore.) > I think Judy is probably being modest. It is not in the water salt or fresh but in the power to compel by voice or hand. I was down at the dock this afternoon and a few tentatives swings in the breeze didn't even raise a cheer. It is a gift you have Judy. I hope you put it to good use. > It only works, I reiterate, if the dick-swinger in > question *believes* I have that power. Line up all you believers. Is this the origin of the swinging parties I hear you have in the States? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kirk and dick swinging
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <> > He is under the illusion it was 'swinging', but it was really just > jiggling around in a kind of embarrassing way. Well blow me down I would have sworn it swung. But as I recall from the photo you posted you have the sort of eyes that can tell a jiggle from a swing and also apparently the deep interest to appreciate a swing so I must defer to your assessment. But I thought men swung and women jiggled. Peter Sutphen, from a recent cat fighting encouragement post I assume you are a tit man, don't they jiggle? or are you into bounces? Can we both bounce? Actually as I recall a post Peter made re rubbing sesame oil on virgins in the moonlight I revise my description of him as a tit man and call him an enthusiastic all rounder.By the way are you still "borrowing Jasmine's lawnmower"? We haven't heard from her for a while so I guess all needs are being met! By the way I wonder if Kirk minds his name in front of all these posts? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kirk and dick swinging
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was jest kiddin'.or, as we say where I come from, I was jest > pulling your plonker. > > OffWorld > > If I understand your meaning accurately, consider it well pulled and I think it swings now. You must have the same powers as Judy. Have you two considered a business partnership? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Guidelines
Naaah don't do that Rick. Judy has many commendable qualities. I too have seen her fight but she enjoys a fight and if you don't, back off; or ignore her forays into bellicosity. We are what we are. If you enter into nit picking with her be warned she is good at it, probably part of her job training. If the stress gets to you, cool off and invite her to skinny dip; then check each other for pubic lice; you'll become friends. Don't pick a fight where you are going to get beat up. Learn silence. Not every battle has to be publicly won. Some people need to win on the chat sites. In Off World's terms they are probably those who can only jiggle. Hem hem. Remember how Richard Kilmer and I went at each other, twice, and are still friends. Life is too short for internet fights and if you don't think so you are probably too short. Hem hem. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- > Years ago I quit AMT because of the endless nit picking between Judy > and everyone else. She seems to be following the same pattern here. I > have heard this in person from others living in Fairfield. I > personally have never had interactions with her so it's not personal. > I would strongly suggest that you unsubscribe Judy from the list. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush hits the booze again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Bush has aroused great antipathy in me but if this is true I feel sorry for him. Being an addict is a sad condition. It seems the times of tribulation might well be upon us and mighty edifices could crumble like packs of cards. Sink into your Being and keep up your compassion because the scourge could land near you. Bush might well end up being the President just as everything tumbled. His boozing will not help him or any of us. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM and Ramtha: a winning team...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > You must be referring to "What the Bleep Do We Know?". I I thought it an atrocious film, badly edited and with enough good material for a 5 minute read. The animation was so repetitive. I'd like to give it marks for good intention unless the intention was to make money, Sorry for the downer, but I had to force myself to remain in the theatre. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Falun Qong
http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2004/9/1/51972.html The above link if you have the stomach to read the material will give you some idea of the peersecution of the Falun Qong practitioners in China. It is horrific and it is hard to feel any kindliness to the sort of people who do this sort of thing.One wishes for some Divne vengeance. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] lovely link
If you haven't seen this yet you will surely enjoy it. http://www.potentialmovie.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Angels
I read this account several years ago. A mother with a five year old boy rolled her van one evening off the road and down a cliff. The mother was knocked unconscious. The little boy got out and saw another small boy with a puppy. This other boy said he knew a cave where they could spend the night. Early next morning he showed the little boy a route up the cliff and vanished. A passing truck stopped when he saw a kid at the side of the road in the middle of nowhere, heard his story and got hold of an ambulance. They said it was too dangerous to climb down the cliff and called in mountain experts who descended with ropes. They got the mother up. She recovered. The climbers said they did not know how a small boy had climbed up such a steep cliff. The account offered no comment or explanation. My own was is that the boy with a puppy was an angel, maybe two and had assumed a form ideal to reassure another scared small boy who would respond well both to a kid and a puppy. I cry every time I tell this story. Love, David To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Angels
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "David Fiske" > <> Dear David, > Please ask Benjamin Creme for information about the nature of this > beautiful story; http://www.shareintl.org Actually I am happy with my explanation and don't need anything more. I prefer to keep it that way. love, David To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding the Amma posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wasn't there some heavy metal band called "Meat > Puppets"? A rather sattvic image, yes? > -Peter > >This is not my field expertise being more my study being Buddhists Faggots but I think it was Meat Loaf and he was an overweight vegetarian. David To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I would like to try an experiment in compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Rudra Joe, If you are a chef in the New Orleans inner city we interacted with a little heat on your part some years ago on another site. You ask for prayers to help with your addictions. That is a good start. I have a friend who says her addictions started when as a child of 6 she became the sexual reward in the neighbour's game of cards. Sweets, obesity and then amphetamines to keep slim during her modelling career. There is probably nothing you can imagine she didn't do to excess during some 50 years of addictive behaviour including over 1,000 sex partners, several suicide attempts. Sinking into degradation to silence the howl of feeling she was dirt. She is now not only a model of sobriety but a cheerful ebullient personality that radiates intelligent humour and a great zest for being alive, but still with problems that she deals with daily. She wouldn't have succeeded without addiction counselling with a wise man (who also happens to do TM) and her group of fellow addicts who are supportive of each other. She says there is nothing anyone can do until an addict REALLY wants to quit, that an addictive mind is really cunning and manipulative and crafty about remaining addictive. My own advice. Turn the addictive disorder first into something positive like health and fitness. Exercise that makes you sweat. My own predilection is Taoist Internal Arts see www.esotericarts.org for what I do and my essays. But something that makes you sweat, something that gives you pride in your physicality. And seek wise counselling. My friend ruined most of her family relations and has had to deal with such immense guilt. Further to the sensible advice not to start a family, Jung pointed out that anything in your unconscious undealt with you hand over lock stock and barrel to your children. Generally all the family of addicts also need counselling. Good luck. Love, David To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
