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Yep - When I first encountered Barry, he surprised, shocked and angered me. But that was a long time ago. Although I have come across devious people before, I am still shocked, and surprised, by those who do not express themselves openly, who play games for power. I have found that being direct in life is the fastest way to discover or accomplish absolutely anything. So those who are devious, who waste their time trying to trick others, for whatever mean purpose, are pretty much invisible to me, until they make themselves known. I cannot conceive of wasting one's life like that, so I often forget that such stupid and childish behavior exists. My bad.:-)
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Hackers
Exactly. Barry's been obsessed with winning and losing ever since I've known him. Ann wrote: snip I do not believe that anyone can lose in an interaction with another person. Whatever they bring to the table is not altered by engaging in a discussion or in an argument. You are who you are when you enter into a conversation and you are who you are when you leave. Winning and losing are already givens and have nothing to do with any activity. The winners and the losers are not determined by anything external, it's about what they having goin' on inside.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Hackers
Dear Rick, Question: Would you lease to me the ownership position of FFL for one month for a dollar? Sincerely, -Buck Yep, Denial-of-service-attacks. DoSa. Yea that is effectively what we have for so long had with all the unkindness that some in evident method have used to quench and flood out much of any substantial discussion on FFL. We've been long suffering with that here. It is like as soon as the water settles out to drink they come and flood poison over it again in unkind method. Like look at the last week again, these pernicious writers were repeatedly given the chance to come in from their unkind ways and they are right back at flooding the springs with their poison. I hope Rick returns from his travels and does something to save the spring that is FFL. -Buck, on the lone prairie ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Richard J writes, One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. .. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. According to what I've read on 4chan /b/, the Anonymous Group will conduct a major DDoS, even bigger than the attack on the Church of Scientology, which was called Project Chanology. Thank God respondents are allowed unlimited posts per week on Yahoo! FFL, or else we'd be hacked and shut down by the pirates and the hackers - we've got to defend ourselves or it's chaos. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. This is another one of those books that needs to be on a mandatory reading list for all IT Security bachelors degrees. Yes, I've got the book and the degree, and that's probably the main reason I'm still alive and posting. Kevin Mitnick was the most elusive computer break-in artist in history. He accessed computers and networks at all the world's biggest companies - and no matter how fast the authorities were, Mitnick was faster, sprinting through phone switches, computer systems, and cellular networks. As the FBI's net finally began to tighten, Mitnick went on the run, engaging in an increasingly sophisticated game of hide and seek that escalated through false identities, a host of cities, and plenty of close shaves, to an ultimate showdown with the Feds, who would stop at nothing to bring him down. Ghost in the Wires is a thrilling true story of intrigue, suspense, and unbelievable escapes - and a portrait of a visionary who forced the authorities to rethink the way they pursued him and forced companies to rethink the way they protect their their most sensitive information. With an introduction by Steve Wozniak. 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011
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Yep, Denial-of-service-attacks. DoSa. Yea that is effectively what we have for so long had with all the unkindness that some in evident method have used to quench and flood out much of any substantial discussion on FFL. We've been long suffering with that here. It is like as soon as the water settles out to drink they come and flood poison over it again in unkind method. Like look at the last week again, these pernicious writers were repeatedly given the chance to come in from their unkind ways and they are right back at flooding the springs with their poison. I hope Rick returns from his travels and does something to save the spring that is FFL. -Buck, on the lone prairie ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Richard J writes, One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. .. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. According to what I've read on 4chan /b/, the Anonymous Group will conduct a major DDoS, even bigger than the attack on the Church of Scientology, which was called Project Chanology. Thank God respondents are allowed unlimited posts per week on Yahoo! FFL, or else we'd be hacked and shut down by the pirates and the hackers - we've got to defend ourselves or it's chaos. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. This is another one of those books that needs to be on a mandatory reading list for all IT Security bachelors degrees. Yes, I've got the book and the degree, and that's probably the main reason I'm still alive and posting. Kevin Mitnick was the most elusive computer break-in artist in history. He accessed computers and networks at all the world's biggest companies - and no matter how fast the authorities were, Mitnick was faster, sprinting through phone switches, computer systems, and cellular networks. As the FBI's net finally began to tighten, Mitnick went on the run, engaging in an increasingly sophisticated game of hide and seek that escalated through false identities, a host of cities, and plenty of close shaves, to an ultimate showdown with the Feds, who would stop at nothing to bring him down. Ghost in the Wires is a thrilling true story of intrigue, suspense, and unbelievable escapes - and a portrait of a visionary who forced the authorities to rethink the way they pursued him and forced companies to rethink the way they protect their their most sensitive information. With an introduction by Steve Wozniak. 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Hackers
Barry wrote: snip The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. But I'm still here, Barry, despite the hundreds of thousands of posts you've made harassing me since we first encountered each other in 1995 on alt.m.t. I'm obviously already on your Enemies List and have been, again, since 1995 on alt.m.t. I know you wish I'd give up and leave, but that isn't happening, sorry. snip It's a form of cyberterrorism. Yes, I think cyberterrorist describes you perfectly.
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And, why don't you shut up about Barry and just leave him alone! Pick on someone on your own level, like Ravi or Robin. Everyone knows Barry is asleep over there, and everyone knows you're up early posting from your day job. You're acting like a junkyard dog these days. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 10:56 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Barry wrote: snip The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. *But I'm still here, Barry, despite the hundreds of thousands of posts you've* *made harassing me since we first encountered each other in 1995 on alt.m.t.* *I'm obviously /already/ on your Enemies List and have been, again, since* *1995 on alt.m.t. I know you wish I'd give up and leave, but that isn't* *happening, sorry.* snip It's a form of cyberterrorism. *Yes, I think cyberterrorist describes you perfectly.*
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This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: And, why don't you shut up about Barry and just leave him alone! Pick on someone on your own level, like Ravi or Robin. Everyone knows Barry is asleep over there, and everyone knows you're up early posting from your day job. You're acting like a junkyard dog these days. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 10:56 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: snip The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. But I'm still here, Barry, despite the hundreds of thousands of posts you've made harassing me since we first encountered each other in 1995 on alt.m.t. I'm obviously already on your Enemies List and have been, again, since 1995 on alt.m.t. I know you wish I'd give up and leave, but that isn't happening, sorry. snip It's a form of cyberterrorism. Yes, I think cyberterrorist describes you perfectly.
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The key word here is all, which is a lie. I DID NOT make ALL this stuff up - you told a big fib. We do not take kindly to liars in this chat room. Everyone takes me seriously, otherwise they would put me on their do not read black list. The truth is, you're just obsessed with my every word. Get over it and get back to work. Your post has all the earmarks of someone working at a computer in a home office somewhere and waiting for the ding to go off indicating another email from this discussion group. Correct me if I am wrong about this. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 12:03 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. * ** ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: And, why don't you shut up about Barry and just leave him alone! Pick on someone on your own level, like Ravi or Robin. Everyone knows Barry is asleep over there, and everyone knows you're up early posting from your day job. You're acting like a junkyard dog these days. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 10:56 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: snip The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. *But I'm still here, Barry, despite the hundreds of thousands of posts you've* *made harassing me since we first encountered each other in 1995 on alt.m.t.* *I'm obviously /already/ on your Enemies List and have been, again, since* *1995 on alt.m.t. I know you wish I'd give up and leave, but that isn't* *happening, sorry.* snip It's a form of cyberterrorism. *Yes, I think cyberterrorist describes you perfectly.*
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Yep, Denial-of-service-attacks. Another form of Denial-of-service is to pick the people one doesn't like on an Internet forum and harass them with literally hundreds or thousands of posts for many years until they no longer feel it is worth posting on the forum. Because every time them do, the stalkers will start their harassment campaign again. Many of these victims finally decide that it really isn't worth it to participate any more because the constant harassment from their stalkers prevents them from contributing anything of value, so they leave. The stalkers consider this a win. More sane people consider it a loss for the forum, because the people chased away by the stalkers were often the best and brightest posters. Others not directly targeted by the stalkers also consider it a loss, because the stalkers tend to then take over the forum and use it to post nothing but their own petty grievances and vendettas, drowning out the interesting discussions other posters originally signed up for. Many of these secondary victims also end up leaving the forum. The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. In the end, the only people who interact with the stalkers are the occasional well-meaning person trying to get them to lighten up and return to sanity (dangerous, because that's guaranteed to land them on the Enemies List themselves), or the toadies and groupies who suck up to the primary stalkers, kiss their asses, and try to emulate and perpetuate their sick behavior. It's a form of cyberterrorism. Just like what you did when I first started posting to FFL. You had had a few beers and got mean and nasty. It was just about enough to drive me away. You are easily as guilty of this as anyone and I believe this explains your longevity here Barry. You are an unwelcoming bastard to just about everyone who decides to begin posting here, not to mention those who have been here for years. One whiff of your style of 'welcome wagon' and any normal person leaves pretty quickly.
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You may not be getting it, Ann. Every time you post a reply to Barry, he wins. Every time Judy posts a reply to Barry, he wins. You're getting set up as a patsy and you're getting sucked down a rabbit hole. Judy knows this and so does Barry - it's their game. Neither one is going to stop until one or the other is dead and it looks like Barry will out live Judy. Barry wins because he REALLY doesn't care - Judy loses because she does care. It's that simple. It's not your fault - you seem like a pretty nice person; too nice in fact to be responding to Barry. Anyway, hope you are having fun - I know I am. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 1:05 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Just like what you did when I first started posting to FFL. You had had a few beers and got mean and nasty. It was just about enough to drive me away. You are easily as guilty of this as anyone and I believe this explains your longevity here Barry. You are an unwelcoming bastard to just about everyone who decides to begin posting here, not to mention those who have been here for years. One whiff of your style of 'welcome wagon'and any normal person leaves pretty quickly.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: You may not be getting it, Ann. Every time you post a reply to Barry, he wins. Every time Judy posts a reply to Barry, he wins. You're getting set up as a patsy and you're getting sucked down a rabbit hole. Judy knows this and so does Barry - it's their game. Neither one is going to stop until one or the other is dead and it looks like Barry will out live Judy. Barry wins because he REALLY doesn't care - Judy loses because she does care. It's that simple. It's not your fault - you seem like a pretty nice person; too nice in fact to be responding to Barry. Anyway, hope you are having fun - I know I am. Go figure. Thank you for your concern but I am not the loser when it comes to Barry. Barry can't actually touch me on any level anymore. He exists in his own universe and it does not intersect with mine other than we are both carbon based and need to eat. I do not believe that anyone can lose in an interaction with another person. Whatever they bring to the table is not altered by engaging in a discussion or in an argument. You are who you are when you enter into a conversation and you are who you are when you leave. Winning and losing are already givens and have nothing to do with any activity. The winners and the losers are not determined by anything external, it's about what they having goin' on inside. On 12/2/2013 1:05 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Just like what you did when I first started posting to FFL. You had had a few beers and got mean and nasty. It was just about enough to drive me away. You are easily as guilty of this as anyone and I believe this explains your longevity here Barry. You are an unwelcoming bastard to just about everyone who decides to begin posting here, not to mention those who have been here for years. One whiff of your style of 'welcome wagon' and any normal person leaves pretty quickly.
